The Steve Dangle Podcast - Astronaut | May 11, 2022

Episode Date: May 11, 2022

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, the Leafs beat the Lightning and are one win away from the second round (00:00), Adam Wylde changes the NHL (31:00), the Edmonton Oilers lose in overtime to the Kings and Nurse head butts Danault (36:00), the Hurricanes lead the Bruins 3-2 (50:00), the Blues lead the Wild 3-2 (55:30), the Penguins lead the Rangers 3-1 (58:30), the Panthers tie the Caps 2-2 (1:05:00), the Flames and Stars are tied 2-2 (1:06:00), Michael Bunting has been nominated for the Calder (1:13:00), Tthe Montreal Canadiens win the draft lottery (1:19:00), and Game 6 Leafs vs Lightning predictions (1:23:00). Originally aired: May 11, 2022 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/1y_yE395naM Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp Individuals must be 19 years of age or older to open a Sports Interaction account. Terms and Conditions apply. Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://help.sportsinteraction.com/hc/en-us/articles/216779528-Responsible-Gaming-Self-Limitation-Self-Exclusion. Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Sports Interaction is subject to successful AGCO registration and execution of an Operating Agreement with iGaming Ontario. The Eligible iGames conducted and managed by iGO are only available to those physically present in the Province of Ontario. Visit this episode's sponsors: Get 20% off + free shipping with the code DANGLE at manscaped.com. That’s 20% off + free shipping with the code DANGLE at manscaped.com. It’s time to get wet and clean with your new MANSCAPED™ Shower Routine." https://manscaped.com/ CODE: DANGLE https://smith.ai/ CODE: SDP https://betterhelp.com/sdp http://athleticgreens.com/sdp https://sportsinteraction.com/sdpn Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey, do you sleep last night? Uh, no. No? No. Why not? Because you're up all night thinking about how you could get 20% off and free shipping with the promo code Dangle at Manscaped.com, wasn't it? Yes.

Let's start the show. Why are you tired? What happened? Who, me? Yeah, you're out of breath. What do you mean I'm tired? I can't. What are you talking about on the stairs for a shirt?

The Steve Dangle Podcast. Powered by Sports Interaction. Canada's sports book I'm out of breath because I ran upstairs to put on my Lando Norris shirt because Jesse came in with his Lewis Hamilton slash George Russell look Mercedes

Mercedes shirt so anyway for anybody listening yeah we are wearing competing F1 shirts you know and despite all the porpoising that's happening with the mercedes car you know we're we're beating you in the construct you are and and i'm i'm upset because uh mclaren actually uses a mercedes engine and so it's a little bit frustrating because all the mclaren cars or so all the mercedes cars have sucked this year what happened you're a golden boy well no lando's my boy oh lando's my boy everybody loves daniel lando's always like i was a verstappen guy

and then it becomes easy to cheer for that guy because he's winning everything so i'm like so then i'm like my team after watching last year like watching mclaren come out of nowhere and be like the fourth the third best team most of the season they're still fourth they're still fourth yeah what you saying is this is this the focus of this show is this where we want to go i i think we should move on because steve is already sick of it okay now jesse i have a question for you jesse can you have a look at your text messages i have sent you something making fun of me today i have sent you something yeah and i would just like to show off because we can run this because it was on instagram so this is public okay i'm just before anybody thinks that we're going to

get in trouble we can do this we're taking this directly from sports nets instagram feed which means it's public domain which means sports net no stop it i don't know if that's how it works that is how it works once it's on there it's public domain and i'm promoting sports net i'm promoting watch a game with steve dangle i know i know steve don't worry i'm good right i just want you to hear i want you to hear because what you're about to hear in all these i'm not good at this anymore what you're gonna hear in these clips what's happening right now is just just listen there's a thing i'm terrified don't be you don't have to talk as much because you did all the talking in these clips get ready jesse there's like eight clips here oh and all i need you to do

yeah is quickly go through them because you're gonna hear least fans at the beginning of the game. Leafs fans in the middle of the game and Leafs fans at the end of the game. You had Leafs fans at the beginning of the game. Oh my god, there's no hope. Leafs fans in the middle of the game. Okay, maybe there's hope, but please don't break my heart. And Leafs fans at the end of the game freaking the F out. And it's all channeled through one

Steve Tangle. Go ahead with the first one. Come on, boys. Which no player has ever said before. Oh boy, Jack. I mean, it's a good shot. That's the Stamkos goal. It's a good battle from Kucherov.

I didn't see that hit anything. Next one. Next one. Not good enough is an understatement. Oh, boy! Terrible. Terrible, terrible, terrible. It's amazing that you do it.

All right, next one. So it's 2-0 Tampa at this point. Or will he? They score! Let's go! William Melander puts it on net! Think you got a deflection from the captain in the Toronto Maple Leafs like that are within one next one None of that goes in but now you'll know why Steve sounds like this today

the lightning in survival mode your survival mode the leafs got to gain the leaves give up a break away with the dangle oh he's picked up by the lightning go get a break away here's nick waltz again shoots stuck by campbell remember that now that was important let's keep going to the next one riley was open but the virus was behind the net the bars this is four on four first goal they're two two now We like to have fun, don't we, right? And the Leafs tie it at two! Next one.

Don't forget, the Leafs are about to get 10 seconds of power play here. And William Nylander with an open shot! Scores! Scores! Are you kidding me? Are you kidding me, William Nylander? What's the Leafs up? 3-2! Less than five minutes into the third period. The Leafs down 2-1 at the period's beginning.

Now hold the lead! Hold the fate of the Leafs! Well, now what happens? Do they hold the lead? Next slide. Penalty box. Oh, no! Oh, no!

Ryan McDonough ties it with a blast. The big line gets hemmed in its own zone. All right. Ryan McDonough. And last slide. And here comes a partial two-on-one. With Matthews. Martin puts it in.

Matthews rebounds. Scores! Matthews scores! Change the narrative, baby! Austin Matthews with 6.06 to go in the sixth. Put the Leafs up 4-3. All right, I think we're good on that. You get the idea.

So, Steve, you sound like this this morning. Yeah. Your heart rate was at 160 last night. Yeah, I don't believe that. No? No. Isn't that under your watch? Well, because it went from 120-something to, like, 160, which is insane.

I think it might have been me shaking. Oh, maybe. I don't know. I hope not, because I got a tweet from Commander Chris Hadfield this morning. Yes, I wanted to bring that up. Who you might know as an astronaut who went to space. And apparently his heart rate did not reach 160 while he was being launched into actual space. He said his pulse was two-thirds.

During launch, my pulse was two-thirds dangle. That's math. And by the way, the person that asked him about that, I don't believe knows you exist. That's fine. Like Matt Gertie, I don't know if he knows you exist. Matt is a journalist. I think that's hilarious. This morning, I barely exist.

Between the stream and LFR and allergies, I don't know how I'm going to pull this out tomorrow. I want to have another one of these tomorrow. So, so, so Jesse sends us a text right before the game last night, right before Steve logs on to this. Oh, you're welcome. okay and jesse what you were on sports interaction oh yeah yeah what did you what were you what were you asking steve about whether you should bet or not i asked you about morgan riley will he get any points uh last night and was it goals was it goals or points no it was just will he have any points i bet the austin i was fucking i was on fire last five for five uh actually yeah yeah holy shit

because i had uh i had austin matthew anytime goal scorer i had morgan riley which you said when i asked you hey will morgan riley get a point um use what did you tell me i guarantee it and then i had uh under seven and a half goals i had leafs winning twice because i took them when they were down that's my my favorite least thing to do it's two and a half goals when they get down by two goals you get the two and a half plus leafs plus two and a half and uh that hits like a bunch of times because they love coming back and it was it was a classic leafs game it was beautiful Oh, it was awesome. Now, I want you to know.

You're welcome. Thank you. By the way, sportsinteraction.com slash SDPN. Those are bets that you made. Yeah. These are real. So listen, when we talk about the game as a whole, and specifically about the Leafs,

we're talking about a poised, gutsy, strong, focused group. But it didn't start that way. So let's talk about the bad first at the first period here because I got a couple of messages, including from one of my buddies, Mike, who was like, I'm in a really dark place. I can't do this again. And this is in the first intermission.

And I have to say, like I kept it super positive on Twitter last night because I was like, I have to put positivity out there because negativity is not going to help this, but I will not lie to you. It was like... I was on that right before the game.

It felt like, well, you were. You were texting everybody, we're going to win, it's going to happen. And then they come out like that. And I don't know if you've ever been in a relationship and broken up with somebody and then got back together. And the first fight that you have,

it goes to the worst place possible. That's what the Leafs felt like. it just it just very specific it is but it feels like it just it takes you back to the worst moments of your life is what i'm trying to say oh that's what i felt the first intermission discussion um with everyone behind the scenes for watch the least game with steve tangle presented by most canadian um was basically like if you're kyle dubas like people were talking about him like being done as leafs gm and what i was saying is i the people were talking about that's crazy that's crazy you know it's going to be a thing if the leafs lose which they won't which is cool so

they won't but if they in a hypothetical world where they were to people would be talking about his job and i was like i wouldn't be rushing to my next one if i were him because i would question uh how much i actually know about this because uh the evidence that my eyes and ears ingest is not unfolding in the playoffs and this year is so much more frustrating than last year if it were to fail because last year what did i say i go i don't know what i would change about this group i liked the felino deal dude had a broken back i like that they got extra depth clearly the best team in the division playing a team they should clearly beat hooray and then they lose and that screwed my brain and screwed a lot of league fans brains this year it's you know we were talking

about behind the scenes we were talking about kyle dubas assembling a team that's good on paper that's that's not the truth necessarily though because they're good on paper and they passed the eye test like gritty wins against carolina and pittsburgh and oh you mean like the old school would be happy with this and the panther yes like they were visually better than their opponent and then you look at the paper and you go yep checks out so for them to get completely outclassed by tampa i was just sort of throwing my hands up like what do you do like in the first period in the first period so like not even sunday like we're talking about the first period last night talking about the first period last night um like you're gonna have bad games but we're talking

about it's an accumulation now and you know oh the leafs in the offseason like blow it up is is um it's not specific like kyle dubas can't get on his phone and be like blow it up no like you have to call teams and make specific moves what specific moves would you make and i'm here looking at this team and going i don't know what the hell i would change because they there's no reason for them to be playing this poorly there's no reason for it first five minutes low event one shot a piece um they have one defensive breakdown and they pay for it with the samco's goal and it ruined the entire rest of the period save for maybe the final two minutes and you can't play 20 shitty minutes against the tampa bay lightning you can't even play 15

or tan it was so un it was uncharacteristic well and then you have mitch marter uh with a chance to stick breaks and then you have and then you have mitch marter who's by the way been an absolute star so don't think i'm like i'm trying to uh submarine him on this one but like he he also then takes an odd penalty in the first 10 seconds of a penalty that they they were on the power play and he took a penalty that was the one call the leaf scott i had issue with yeah the rest of them i'm like yeah that's a call yeah it was um i thought that i thought that one was a bit soft and you're just you're thinking man like everything that can go wrong has yes yes it really did start to feel like that and jack campbell you know you know he didn't square up

on on stamkos he's not in the proper spot in the net you probably like him to have that one Killorn completely took his eyes away on the second. Yeah. But, I mean, he held the team in the game. Yes. Yes, he did. And supposedly Jason Spezza, I don't know if he was stoic or tore the paint off the walls,

but he was one of several Leafs to speak up at intermission, and they changed it. And I'll tell you what changed the game. Okay. The Leafs figured out how to utilize John Tavares. Well, so this is important because John Tavares has taken a ton of criticism i know the hockey news had an article right before we say this is the game he needs to show up this is why they signed him what changed so john tavaris known for

his um speed yes no no not at all so here's the problem and you know we ignore the contract for a second forget the contract salary cap doesn't apply right now we're in the middle of the stanley Cup playoffs I don't want him driving play and I think Tampa was doing their best to get him to drive play and he was getting some carries through the neutral zone and the problem there is they're going to beat him every time um he's strong on the puck but they're at very least going to gum up the works and make it difficult for the Leafs to get sustained uh pressure Keith starts the game with mckay evan kerfoot two dogged players with a lot of speed doesn't really work willie plays his best game of the series and him after a shitty penalty in the first after a stupid

dumb i was so mad and uh he plays so much better and then i think they keep kerfoot with tavaris and what they allowed him to do by committee um was they gained the zone and they let him go to work in the corners and behind the net which is what he does uh that's what led to the power play goal or was it a power play goal the first one the morgan riley goal no the the the one that was his goal it was a power play yes yeah yeah so that was a power play goal so that's a power play goal it's a little bit different but the riley goal four on four again it's four on four there's more space out there so it's easier to gain the zone and who gains the zone was the jt no no it was willie flying in willie uh swooping back behind the net keeping uh headman and chernak

um to one side of the net while riley stands there for five or six seconds completely unguarded it was hilarious he literally he just stands there and i'm like okay tavaris can't pass it through the net but the second he gets around it's curtain it's a goal finally does and he scores john tavaris was able to be the little thing king because he didn't have to do the big things now we can talk about 11 million dollars and this and that but should you not utilize your players to the best of their ability should you should you not try to accentuate a player's best skills and for john tavaris that's being a net front presence and winning battles behind the net but isn't that always what he's been that is always what he's been among the least best yes but

knee lander has not been at his best and i mean it's hard to bounce back from food poisoning in the middle of the playoff yeah and he got he got off to the wrong uh you know started on the wrong foot he that was the best his legs have looked in the series by far bar none kerfoot looked good um the leafs at home were so much better at using their speed in the second period and they allowed Tavares to go to work which opened up Matthews it just opened up everything didn't it well I thought so and I think and I wanted to ask you guys about a couple of things first off if Austin Matthews is is on your team and you expect him to carry most of the offensive load people were starting to get on him again you know he'd scored once I think in the previous 10 or 11

games in the playoffs or twice or something wasn't a lot it wasn't a lot I think it was twice and and and so people are starting to get on him and rightfully so but when I he didn't score yet but when i saw him out there throwing his body around throwing hits uh fighting back against pat maroon maybe fortunate to get away with that one with uh surrogate yeah you'll have to see it was a bad hit but it's one of those where you kind of when you're when you're when you're you're captain or and he's not the captain yet but i think he's going to be when your best player is doing that it's pretty hard not to just want to jump out there and do it the same way and i i also want to throw this out there i thought it was hilarious like i think it's been hilarious the the leaf fans

in the building and i was we were there in game 82 and it was like this too leaf fans get a shitty rap because so many of the tickets are premium buy tickets they're four or five hundred bucks a piece on a regular night and a lot of people in there are corporate corporate buyers people in suits people there with clients adam wild and they're not cheering and they're not cheering for the leafs in the same way that you or i would screaming you know uh jumping up and down that sort of thing but the leafs fans in this series there's not a single other fan base that can have that has anything to say about these crowds now like those crowds were in it they're loud as hell and they got a penalty call yeah perhaps too much so did you really call did you see that no so you

should look this up the uh not you should look this up but you should look at here so there was a point where and i forget who got called but it was coming it was in the leaf zone um and there was a there was like a hook or something and there's stamkos tripping uh matthews right and the and the fan like everybody saw him go down i jumped up in my living room everybody in the in scotia bank jumped up and the ref had paused and wasn't going to put his hand up but as soon as the crowd reacted the hand went up and there was an actual pause they talked about it in the broadcast they talked about it in the intermission the crowd got on got on him and got him to react and so don't tell me that fans don't play a a thing in that as well right so

i i sort of people thought i jinxed the game by saying the least we're gonna win i did actually jinx the game just not in the way i thought because i retweeted scouting the refs i think the refs were uh hansen and a bear and uh scouting the refs um they do this amazing thing where they show a team's record when um a certain ref is officiating their game right year in year out it shows how often the home team wins how often the home and road team gets the calls and it also shows our breakdown of penalties called first second and third period and i actually i reached out to them yesterday and i was like does this include like ticky tacky end of the game game management stuff and you know they were talking about ways that they're going to improve it and

make it be power plays maybe rather than penalties or show both but one thing the stats showed is both hansen and a bear called significantly more penalties over their career in the second period so first period you're getting a feel for the game second period they lock it down third period most refs they let it go no like it was uh there were seven calls seven in the first followed by two and two yeah i think and largely i think that was because the leaf stopped committing dumb penalties because if you know if you run down those penalties it was it was brody dumb he got beat and then hooked yes kneelander dumb uh the hooking and then who's the third one the mitch marner one yeah right off the power there's three right there so for the first period the

narrative for me was the same one that the games they've lost it's the bad penalty yeah but it is worth mentioning like matthews probably should have been called for the circuit chip hit i think ross colton should have been called for knocking down morgan riley which directly led to the third lightning goal the mcdonough goal i thought it was okay there's it's away from the puck though and based on the way they called the first i think it's a penalty is it a penalty in general no probably not but fuck the way they've been calling the series i'm looking at tight like if depending on how you look at it you could judge that to be the worst officiated game in the series so far because it was the least consistent right the first period was listen don't breathe on anyone

and it just it was anarchy for the rest of the game like uh we're talking about a penalty to negate a power play after 10 seconds so there was 10 seconds of power play time in the third period i think and then um in the second period there were two penalties and one was too many men so how many actual like infractions leading to power plays did they call one for the last 40 minutes of the game after calling seven in the, or if you take away the too many calls six in the first period, it was, it was two different officiating crews.

And I don't, I wouldn't say it benefited the Leafs at all. They were certainly able to skate Tampa into the ground at certain points. Yeah. I think, I think it changed once the Leafs were dominating play. I think a lot of the infractions stop.

I think when the Leafs were trailing is when they were forced to commit all the ins and fractions like we didn't i didn't mention the uh the geo cross check a kind of just a useless cross check that's like an iffy call but like i feel like when they're trailing they're they're trying to catch up more and they're committing more infractions but it's it's it was a it was kind of a soft call but it was consistent with the series yeah and that's the way not just the way they've been calling penalties but that's the way they've been calling cross checks specifically in the series so for gironano to be like oh my god like you shouldn't be shocked it was really that was frustrating to watch i'm like holy shit like so you're not even

adapting like at all um but they got then they did kind of after they come out of the first period then they did so this is the thing when the leafs have the puck and the leafs are skating it takes away tampa's ability to draw a penalty so like was brody's penalty on nick paul dumb i would argue it wasn't dumb i would argue it's nick paul just pantsing tj brody that that was the penalty because he got beat he got beaten if he doesn't hook paul in the hands it's probably i think that would have made it three nothing or no that would have made it two nothing and then it ended up making it two nothing anyway right right so it really just delayed the inevitable um i think what it was is the leaf just stopped playing like shit i want to say this too i the

mcdonough goal and you could hear you could hear it in steve's montage at the beginning of the episode the mcdonough goal in the past i feel like this is where the poise and the guts come in what crush them would it would have really been a dagger and um i when even when i saw it go in i just felt like no they still could yeah it's not guaranteed but you definitely felt like this team i i think that once you've seen heartbreak it's like you become less afraid of heartbreak right to me it means more that the leafs won that game because of that goal because uh you know you always bet on the leafs comeback jesse uh because the leafs are good at scoring goals right it's a whole other ball game when the game's tied right it's one thing to ride that momentum we've

seen the leafs get two or three quick one we've seen it saw it last night four on four yeah and it's it's just not difficult for them and you could also go yeah it was four on four though blah blah blah no it's five on five tampa ties it and then in the most important moments of that game the leafs beat tampa five on five tied game that gave me a lot of confidence heading into oh yeah and that made me feel real good for me i like revisiting some of the narratives we talk about on the show like going into the series and seeing where they're at and adam one of the questions you asked uh going into this was like okay what happens what needs to happen for the least to win i said uh the the stars need to show up and last night the reason they won is because

the big five were there riley had a great game willie had a great game jt finally woke up mitch marner was unbelievable probably the best player on the ice i like to play eight minutes in the first crazy after the first austin matthews we know what happens with austin matthews and like that the last goal the two-on-one that if you watch the play that leads up to the neutral zone turnover that's because matthews comes up with bunting and muzzins they're protecting the uh the other end of the brothers the the three of them converge on the puck and they get this turnover at center ice and then matthews hightails it back the other way yeah it's not just it's not just the uh willingness to work it's the read oh yeah lightning quick read and i showed it in stills

in the lfr the amount of time in which it takes matthews to just leave nick paul in his dust one stride it was one stride he's going it was an unbelievable play by a centerman to to force that turnover with bunting who gets crushed at the end of it and then go back the other way where mitch marner's on the uh the other spot on the uh weak side and he gets the puck and he feeds it to matthews and well and the neutral zone defense in the final minutes to not allow tampa to pull vasilevsky oh yeah oh man yeah we didn't talk about that because i was thinking with four minutes left i said i looked over now i'm like they're gonna they're gonna be pulling the goalie soon you watch and they didn't and they should have i i i was shocked that tampa waited three minutes three

minutes left that they finally did i'm like four minutes left you go for it what are you doing it's it's if they were down two i bet they do but it's one and they're playing the percentages and they're like we're tampa we could probably if we force this play enough we could probably squeak out a goal and that your dad used a great job ringing around the boards and just missing that i was like oh but but i had my uh my seven and a half uh riding on that empty net so i was sweating for the last minute and you're cheering against the leafs i i wanted them just to hold the lead i didn't want to admit that but that's what i was trying for and the other thing when i was revisiting the narratives you guys said i i said the stars need to show up and you guys said

jack campbell needs to show up and last night jack campbell saved the game like three different times the kucherov save with eight minutes to go unbelievable he jumped off his feet crazy like that's that's a ridiculous read because like kucherov imagine how stupid jack campbell would look if uh kucherov just goes oh and slides it underneath him because he's jumped in the air and that is potentially what puts the leafs on the brink of elimination but it was just no he was he read it? Soup. Classic soup. Now, obviously, the

Marner shooting it at Vasilevsky's pads to get it to Matthews. Great play. That is quite the play. You have to have pretty special chemistry to be able to pull that off. And it just goes to show, too, that a normal player would have tried to pass it through the defenseman. And that's what

makes Mitch Marner special. I think the Mitch Marner of old would have tried to pass it through the defenseman. You think this is next level Mitch Marner? Oh, yeah. Super Saiyan Mitch Marner? learned he's learned well because his shot is a factor it is it is i wish he'd use it like he didn't use it last he did there was a well yeah but there was a couple of times last night and you guys all remember this where where the leafs got a little too cute and and they were on the power play especially that first one such an ineffectual power play in the first period and

you're like if mitch will just start shooting again these lanes are going to open up for everybody he got mad because the stick broke yeah fair enough i don't know um but i i wanted to mention this after the game john cooper uh said and this is this is something he's done before he said we're not really making them earn it we're kind of giving it to them oh shut up he said it again yeah that was the narrative coming out of game one so is my we took too too many men on the yeah just say yeah like you're and and he is he not responsible for that um and i i also i just want to say like listen i get it it's gamesmanship and that sort of thing but it loses a like the first time you say it okay fine but two is done but but and it's not like tampa fans aren't stupid

tampa players aren't stupid tampa management isn't stupid tampa media isn't stupid and neither are the least fans in all in all categories so we all know that that's bullshit i understand trying to be a gamesman but that actually to me worked against because then it felt like i don't want to say condescending you look nervous last night john cooper no no i think he's just got i think he's got a bit of the dead eye yeah no i don't know you're not i don't think you're accurately gonna read a coach from the i think he's got the dead face man no like like there's people that you know that they have just like they have the resting dead face i think john's one of those people i think that's a emotionless time back-to-back stanley cup champion i agree i was

surprised so so what is he so shook so what is he gonna say when the Leafs take game six we gave them the series what do you guys think about John Cooper's decision to deploy Corey Perry on the 6 on 4 6 on 5 when you pull the goalie Corey Perry is your guy coming off the bench 19 goals this year

yeah I think everyone's disrespecting Corey Perry I saw some of that yeah I think he was if I'm not mistaken he was Dallas's extra attacker in the Stanley Cup final in the bubble in 2020 okay like if Corey Perry is going to score anywhere it's in the muck like the like the rat he is escaping with a slice of pizza you you let

you let tampa's usual suspects work the puck around and when they fire it on and there's a rebound i mean who's better who's better on his body him and brayden point his body may not be what it used to be but i don't think his his timing or his hockey sense is off at all and i think still banging it yep and he's been to two stanley cup finals in a row just like the lightning half i think i think cory perry i actually like it i think it's a i think you do and and i i think he's deserved it um he's played a pretty good series brayden point on the other hand uh i haven't seen his mind better he's looking better he's good on sunday he's really good the leafs have done a i don't know what it is i don't know if this is the leafs doing it or the or the

lightning not doing it but uh brayden point has been gaining all these zone entries i've found getting it deep flying in with speed and he's got no one with him like he's got no support and it just feels like braden point needs to be more than your line chain specialist if you're the tampa bay lightning he's he's a player i don't think they've utilized very well yeah i wonder if for game six i mean this is finally time for them to make an adjustment in the lineup they haven't made a single change at forward there's uh five games what would you change that's a great question uh it's a pretty good lineup um it is a pretty good lineup you know a lot of there's been a lot of talk about the penalties in this in this series and actually

throughout the playoffs and it's interesting um uh i i get tweets like this these guys like at adam wilde just get their opinions from trending hockey twitter and have successfully ruined a playoff hockey all series fans are complaining about the officiating because it's very bad and the product is awful so i just want to say i want to thank you i will take credit for how the reps are calling the game what their argument essentially the argument is that people like myself who said just call the game the way the game's supposed to be called i got the nhl to change its ways but what actually happened and the reason i'm bringing this up is because frege mentioned it during the second intermission yesterday apparently there was a

meeting at the end of the season last year when they were talking about the rules and several players stood up and said, please just call the standard in the playoffs. And they're like, are you sure? And they're like, yes. Please don't put the call the standard. Several players include Connor McDavid, who was one of the most vocal people about getting the playoffs. Who could fucking blame him?

Here, do you want me to, here, what do you guys think of my shiny tinfoil hat? Let's hear it. Part of the reason the Leafs are getting so many calls against them is they were the ones whining about this. Well, so were the Oilers. I've heard that from other people. Have you?

yeah yeah so have i i got the reception on my shiny tinfoil i don't know that wouldn't shock me yeah it's in the nhl who's taking more has been putting this series on a spotlight and how they're calling the playoffs because the most eyeballs are on it and they are calling the most penalties in this series for a reason which is so weird because some other series are anarchy um what oilers kings that was dude darnell there's headbutt hold on hold on no i know i know i was just using it as a small i will headbutt you and i won't even get a call from player safety they'd only find me 100 bucks now that we're talking about headbutts can you come here for a sec oh relax what are you doing he's got he's had a piece of fluff in his eyebrow

oh i thought you were gonna say i had a butt chin or something it was gonna smack you yeah maybe i don't know you're tired sometimes i get a little grumpy when i'm tired um uh connor mcdavid uh obviously one of those people that has a lot of power adam wilde another person has a lot of power and you're wearing blue and orange and i changed yeah that's right lots of powerful i just want to say i'm i'm happy to be the first one on this show to change the nhl that will always be my trophy can i get a trophy can you guys make me a trophy yes thank you appreciate that the big for changing it's me how many numbers and letters are in that guy's twitter handle uh uh russian there are five letters and four numbers

it's still if you have over five letters numbers now i i can't trust you i can't trust that you're real his banner is a fuck crudo flag probably i don't know um loves canada let's talk about the gong show that is edmonton la edmonton la edmonton now we're talking about yeah no edmonton blows out los angeles los angeles shuts out edmonton and then we all wait for game five and here's the thing troy stetcher who didn't even start the series playing scores the first goal just a wild way to start it. Isn't that how the playoffs work? Always.

Always. And here's the thing about this game is that Edmonton did have to come back. Connor McDavid and Leon Dreisaitl did everything they could to win this game. There is not a single thing that you can pin on those two. No.

They have been unbelievable. You see McDavid's quote? Just couldn't keep the puck out of the net. We scored enough. Four should be enough. Four should be enough. I saw the press conference. Oof.

Now, okay. I want to ask about that, because is that defensive systems? Is that Mike Smith, who's been great and sometimes not? He's been the better goaltender. We've seen Cal Peterson this series, because Quick has been a little shaky. And Smith made more stops last night. So that's got to be the defense. You think?

Yeah. I think that's who McDavid's calling out, because Jay Woodcroft in the late second? I forget if it was late second or early third. He put Drysdale and McDavid together, and they went off and scored. Of course. those three goals like that's he of course he was he was out of options with the rest of the team and he said you guys go out there just do your thing go all-star mode and they did it how fun and it should have been enough to win imagine you're coaching the bakersfield condors and then

you get to go i think i'm gonna put leon dry sideline connor mcdavid together automatic cheat code what does everyone think of that yeah they should literally be allowed to play that music while they're on the ice. It's crazy. That's how it looked. And it should be enough. It should be enough. And here's what,

this is what I wanted to ask because first off, I also want to shout out Zach Hyman who's had a great series. He's been so great. The takeaways are great. He's so good

at putting a player off the puck just before they're about to do something with it and causing turnovers. He's so good at that. Here's the thing that bugs me

about the Connor McDavid quote. What? Happened in overtime. Keith got beat on a weird route. Evander Kane blew a tire. And he blew a tire. And Evander Kane, call me crazy, doesn't... I see that.

I seem to see that a lot. He scored a million goals in the series. I know. But he also does blow a tire a lot. I blame the play more on Keith. Yeah. I thought... I thought Kempe made a nice play on Keith.

But the turnover starts with Evander Kane falling for no reason. And I'm not saying you... I guess you blame the guy, but it does... happen am i crazy oilers fan it should be it's a mistake but it's one that the oilers should have been able to recover right but right okay and that turnover adam you should be the one hammering this that turnover was caused because they started with the dino line and they shut down the the very beginning of the overtime and then they got a turn they forced a turnover and led right to a goal it was unbelievable defensive plays by uh la that turned into offense was it

dry saddle mcdavid kane uh i don't know i don't know and keith i don't remember because i was gonna say the lowest overall pick on that forward line is fourth wow like holy shit um it must have been hold on it well adam if defense is what's costing them this series in game six they might be fuck so let's you're referring to the fact that today there will be a hearing uh for darnell nurse after he head-butted an L.A. Kings player. Is there going to be a hearing? According to Twitter, there will be a hearing. Yeah, they tweeted about it on the

player safety Twitter, I guess. D-O-P-S, right? Yeah, but you go back and watch it. Like, okay, it's the playoffs. It's game six. I don't know. Like, any other time of year, that's 1,000% suspension.

Dude, one of the tallest players in the league. He'll have a hearing today for head-butting L.A.'s Philip Deneau. Hearing means in person, right? No, not necessarily. They haven't said either way. If it was in person, they would have said it. In person.

Okay, so it'll be under five games, obviously, and it should be. Maybe not. Maybe guaranteed, right? So for that goal on the ice, we have McDavid. What site is this? It's just the shift charts.

NHL.com provides all the shift charts For every game This is NHL.com now? They've always had this You go and you look and you see the shifts They do a great job tracking it On the ice for the goal Hyman, Kane, and McDavid

So they went back to the classic first line That's a good line But that's who got beat there The Deneau line was on And then they shut them down They switched off and Kempe came on And he scored well and dino might have neutralized their best defender for game six because like

darnell nurse is one of the tallest players in the league and he headbutt philip dino in the chin from underneath there's no accidental there there's no question regarding intention the only thing that'll save him is dino wasn't hurt on the play that's the only thing that's going to save them because if we're going by the act alone it's a suspension 10 times out of 10 it's an elimination game in the playoffs that is uh you know what that's one of those ones where i do not envy george peros because um damned if you do damned if you don't on that well i think the right call here is the hardest one to make i would call it a suspension but i wouldn't want to call it a suspension dude you can't headbutt a player in the face he headbutt him in the chin

from underneath jesse has it up that's insane and like it's not just his head collides with his face it's very clearly like a ramming motion he comes from underneath yeah man that's that's a wild visual that's a that's a wild visual man that's a wild visual i don't know what peros is going to do and surely we'll get an answer today because if i'm edmonton i'm demanding an answer today you can't give me one tomorrow no i gotta have a chance to play in here wow that's a crazy play that not that is not being talked about enough this morning why yeah why is listen i know deno's a pain in the ass in the playoffs like he slashed him pretty good there too oh my god i haven't even seen the slash it was in the stick but it's an aggressive

swing it is but like it's a two minute minor at most yeah which he didn't get which he didn't get and he was but i just don't know is like i like when i tweeted out my graphic i said don't underestimate playoff philip don't know he scored goals in this series he shut down play he's been amazing and maybe don't know there's just that i don't know if i guess well and they're down three one at the time dude that's a crazy that's a that's crazy it's it's um i know darnell nurse is tough but i've never seen him do does he do no he just this is cool this is a player who has not been in this situation a lot in his career and it's game five of the playoffs you're coming down to facing elimination they're on the power play you're worried you lose your cool for half

a second you head but okay so here's here's brutal here's what we got here's what we got okay here's we got we got two scenarios you're going into game six you're down a game nobody is going to be happy with a five thousand dollar suspension five thousand dollar fine i'm sorry if i'm fine right well who does who does he think he is jamie ben yeah um so if darnell nurse misses this how how rough is this and how much does this play into like listen whether la wins or they don't win. And obviously, it would be a huge emotional one if Edmonton wins without Darnell Nurse. They might use that to...

But let's say LA wins this. Going into the summer, that's going to be the play everybody's talking about. And it's crazy because... And we've seen that with Godry. His extension kicks in next year. I mean, he's a beloved player. He doesn't normally do this. They're going to find a way to blame it on Mike Smith.

Really? I think they got a scapegoat. No! Mike Smith? I mean, you got to look at the bigger picture here like this series isn't on darn owners headbutting philip dino no but but neither was either series cadre getting suspended against boston there was many factors that played into it but this but i'm just saying these are the these are the heat points right there's the touch point well how about this how about the oilers rise to the occasion which they did in

this game at this moment when he headbutts dino they're down three one in the second when they turned it on was the third period yep i don't think they're gonna they i don't think cadre is nurse you know i don't think the oilers look at this as uh as nurse losing his cool all the time we need to get rid of him i think it's a bad play if he does it next year they might but yeah if you had it here cadre was the leaf second and third line center and he played three out of 14 playoff games it's not the same you know what i mean um but you know by the way for anybody that's going to jump on me i'm not directly comparing them no just so we're fucking clear no we're talking about i know but you know i have to put that out there i'm pre-arguing

pre-arguing with twitter hey oh piece of shit um no but um you know what it reminds me of and i actually forgot about this i interviewed shane corson recently oh and i forgot this happened because i was talking to him about the leafs islander series from all those years ago and how he shut down alexi alexi yashin do you remember what he did in game six uh no he got into a fight with eric cairns which is a genuinely stupid decision and kicked him he kicked him in the shin and was suspended for game seven which is akin to like philip dineau fighting darnell nurse kicking him and then being suspended for game seven so you talk about like a shutdown center not being able to play against mcdavid right for game seven but the leafs rose to the occasion and

one the oilers need to harness some of what got them back into this game steal one in la and then you get game seven at home which should always be do you start mcdavid and dry saddle together or do you go back to your regular lines which they shifted to i guess in overtime the rest of the third or do you just pair them together for the rest of the game you just say hey please just outscore your problem i would almost do it at like at certain points i'd be like okay here's a five minute stretch in the first we're going to run them together for three or four shifts and then i'm going to break them up again and then and then i would do it in the second i would do it in the third see if you could get goals and bunches and then spread out the talent

to try to shut la down yeah if nurse is suspended maybe there's a lesson to be gleaned from the st louis blues where you could dress seven guys do it by committee seven defensemen i mean and your fourth your fourth line has one of mcdavid and dry sidle and or dry sidle on it at all times right so it's so it's mcdavid dry sidle third line and then the fourth line has one of them interesting mcdavid dry sidle third line and then the other one of them right so you could you could do mcdavid dry sidle third mcdavid mcdavid dry sidle third dry sidle mcdavid like what's the point of having a fourth line if you have those two for god's sake yeah i mean they might be one of the only teams in the league where it makes sense to do that every game i also found

it hilarious that the narrative is hey we got duncan keith for our playoff run and he's going to be the stalwart on the back end he's going to lead us to the championship because he's been there before and he's the one who got walked on the last play of the game in overtime the only undefeated person in the history of planet earth's father time that's man that was one of the most feared playoff players for a he was unbelievable unbelievable he's 39 like what do you is he 39 he's 38 or 39 dude he was drafted a very long time ago he's just he drafted like 2003 or something like that all the guys from his draft class are almost all of them are retired how many year left can't be a lot 30 he'll be 39 in july wow yeah and like drafted in 2002 where were you

guys in 2002 grade nine cheering on how we were graduating grade eight going into grade nine no we yeah in june in grade eight in june 2000 how many how many games has keith played a regular season how many 12 56 12 56 and how many regular uh playoff uh 140 i'm surprised it's only 140 to be honest so we're looking at in the neighborhood of like 1400 games right a lot of nonsense given and taken hard miles hard miles extremely hard miles rugged granite miles uh and granite granite i just named the hardest thing i can't dude i i went to bed at three like that's good granite yeah god bless i drew who went to bed at like four um i i want to ask about the boston carolina series next because has tony d'angelo out marshand marshand and let me ask

you why first off that things got heated i think game three or game four when marshand literally said you're a racist to tony d'angelo we think game four we think it looked like if you're lip reading it it was a chirp uh d'angelo you know said that he was excited to go back to carolina because the building was louder boston media really got on him for that and you know boston media they're they're about boston teams and and one of the things that if you're trying to make a leafs fan that you're missing is that you know the boston bruins have a local broadcast that's fucking pro boston the bruins you know that the nesson broadcast is bruins bruins bruins the other team doesn't exist everything the other team does is shitty yep b-r-o-o-n-s in in

in toronto there's so much money to be made off of the leafs being a national spectator game because there's Leaf fans all over the country that you don't have a local broadcast because it's like, well, we can make less money doing a local one or we can do a national game, but we can't be Leafs homers about it, which is a bummer

because if you listen to the Leafs broadcast on the radio like Joe Bowen, man, it's Homer Central and it's fucking awesome. They should have both. They should have both. They should have a local Leafs television broadcast. I agree with you.

I would love a local Leafs broadcast. Don't think we're going to get one, but we deserve one. Some would say it's Steve Darby. well i mean your stream is the closest thing we have yeah it's amazing and i'm professional you are i mean listen you at you uh articulated what was happening in those games perfectly you could call the game and be the color commentary um like dude those are you don't understand what it's like to call those games with stone silence in your ears i literally the

only thing i hear is the producer so you don't even get to hear the the game at all i don't hear no arena i don't hear the puck i don't hear like the i would have known the uh headman goal went in because of the post i didn't know it went off the post until i watched why don't you guys change that i don't know dude we have we're we are slowly conquering our tech issues so one step at a time um so so you know we're doing better d'angelo goes back says carolina's building's louder boss immediately just gets up on him for everything and here's the thing sometimes two villains go at it and you just kind of sit back and watch heel verse and and i think if if we're talking about a match the i don't think we're cheering for anybody in this fight

but d'angelo definitely won he got the game-winning power play goal last night and and you know i mean listen i would imagine that boston comes back pretty strong in game six but they weren't good enough last night carolina will class them and anti-ranta everybody's asking about freddie anderson why let him get healthy anti-range has been great yeah well and kachetkov is fine too carolina doesn't have a problem in that i guess that's why they didn't need to put nadalkovich in the first place dude they are we were wrong three starting goaltenders like it's great yeah you have you have ranta who's i think at worst a 1b freddie who's a certified starter and kachetkov who's the starter of the future god they're really lucky there and i mean d'angelo beat

marshand the way he had to which was on the ice all that all that off by shit brad marshand is the game and the second you think about it you lose oh wow that's a great way to put it and when i saw when i saw d'angelo doing that in the media i'm like oh you young man you lost yeah when he threw his stick on the empty net like that's when okay he got under your skin and you're showing it and then he came out next game and yeah when he opened that game on the slave and play like his his assist on that he he drove he drove the play there and he's the one that created the first two goals of the game and it's it's a shame racists are good at hockey but but yeah we can't really gloss over that eh no D'Angelo he he won the hockey battle there by

beating him on the ice and carolina was so much better than boston last night yeah but now boston on the brink of elimination in boston in boston has that bulletin board material boston's gonna be playing with six players all game it's i think this one's going seven uh if you're rod brindamore how do you bottle what tony d'angelo has in game six that's going to be hard to keep under wraps that's going to be hard it's going to be difficult to get the same guy you got in game five and game six that's that's going to be rod brindamore's top task you don't really have to worry about many other guys it's carolina the i have to say the boston fan chirps at d'angelo have been hysterically funny online somebody asked hey d'angelo who's

louder um carolina's fans or the january 6th insurrection i was like oh my god it was just we forget too that tony d'angelo is making a million dollars for one year because of all of his off-ice problems he had to sign just a prove your you cannot be a locker room cancer deal and prove prove to us that you can play on the ice he got bought out uh from he he signed an extension with the rangers nine million dollar extension and he got bought out i think after three games yeah like dude that's crazy yeah and then he's a million dollars yeah yeah now i want to ask you okay you go to sportsinteraction.com slash sdpn okay so tonight's game we'll go through a couple of tonight's games um i you know i was going to bring up the blues and wild too

let me just do that for a second every time one team wins in this series it feels like that that should be it they win so convincingly and yet the next game it's the other team that wins a little bit like the tampa leaf series yeah yeah caprizov the way that game started with caprizov the way he scored i'm like this is not even close there's been two hat tricks yeah in that series and there could have been two hat tricks last night tarasenko got one caprizov was a goal short he has seven goals got one tarasenko got one in the last goal yeah it's it's so and that's the thing the blues just came back and roared back and that's what it is now and you're and you're every time i watch I'm like, but last game it was the other team.

Who's controlling the series? Hard to get a read, eh? It is. I saw this on Twitter. I don't know who tweeted it or if I read it in an article. But it's a shame that Tarasenko was just available in the expansion draft for Seattle. And they could have just taken this man and had them on their team. If this was Vegas' management who were running this expansion draft for Seattle,

they would have had tarasenko and it would have been a star and he would have been on the team but that's not the way they decided to build their team and it's such a shame because they could have had all these great players yeah i'm gonna go out on a limb and say they didn't do a very good job i don't want to i don't want to dump on the kraken and our and our blues wild breakdown but there are some guys matt duchesne unbelievable regular season could have been a seattle kraken could either of those players have done it the way they're doing it now in Seattle. If Tarasenko and Duchesne were playing together, maybe. Tarasenko's Tarasenko

wherever he goes. Like, he's proven to us that this playoffs, that he's still the guy. He wasn't even Tarasenko in St. Louis last year, though. Yeah, but he's come back! That's why he was available. He's come back! Which... He didn't lose it. It's been there. The only people who called that were the Blues. Actually, they didn't even really,

because they made him available. Nah, they sat on it. No one called this. No one called it. But it was still in there. If there's a star player available, whoever's the 33rd team, I'm just telling you take oh that team's unreal man. That team blues are awesome So with what holy shit producer drew making a great point if la beats the Oilers in theory

their next opponent Could be the Dallas Stars if they find a way to knock off the flames Meanwhile, Colorado who should be rewarded for how well they did in the regular season and sweeping their first-round opponent is gonna get the winner of minnesota st louis oh my god that fucking sucks that's brutal two teams with two good goalies each and like grinding and oh you gotta you gotta go the nfl route and recede after every uh after every playoff round if calgary gets eliminated you have to go okay colorado's the best team the nhl doesn't like to reward standouts though they like every flower to be the same height and if one gets a little too high they lop it off your regular season should mean

something and these teams that accomplish something in the regular season and get these higher seeds, they should be rewarded the playoffs and they should always face the correct opponent based on seeding. It's ridiculous. I think the Slames might have something to say about that. So the Penguins and Rangers, another just bonkers series.

So fun, right? So fun. Jari was on ice this morning. He's skating around in practice. He's going to play in this series. Louis Domingue, though, pretty confident man. Have you ever seen him? He's He's pretty like

Louis Domingue. I don't... Oh, Alan Walsh coming. No, it's Alan Walsh coming. Louis Domingue. That's right, I forgot.

Like, confident as hell and 3-1 on the Rangers and Shesturkin and Georgiev getting lit up. Oh, boy. That series is a heart attack. Does it end in five?

Because here's the thing. Obviously, I'm looking at sportsinteraction.com slash SDPN right now. Obviously, the Penguins are favored, but not by all that much. They're a plus 105.

Like, it's not crazy. it's in madison square garden too gerard galan has to do a good job here this has to be his masterpiece because you could argue he's been out coached the whole time mike sullivan obviously has the better team and what saved the rangers early in the series was they had the better goalie well they don't anymore or at very least um that goalie has been neutralized i mean i would still takes shisterkin over to ming you probably take a vesna winner over any team third stringer right but i'll tell you it hasn't been that in this i'll tell you who i'm taking over everybody michael bunting yeah we're gonna talk about that yeah the best forward in the playoffs right now has

been sydney crosby yes by simply if we want to go by the simplest metric points sydney crosby right now has nine points in four games is that good that's 2.25 points per game which leads all forwards in the playoffs and he's only played four games officially put him in the top 10 in playoff scores all time by the way just ahead of doug gilmore and a couple other players doug gilmore has 188 and i think sydney's at 191 now that's so stupid like dudes in the 80s got like 20 goals during a play i know it's like it's crazy like a second season gretzky has over 300 points in the playoff i'm surprised it's only 300 honestly like oh my god bananas out of those uh nine points eight have been even strength which leads the entire playoffs amongst everybody that's

fucking he's been on a mission dude whoa he's not gonna let this team lose no if i'm a rangers fan i'm very worried what this penguin squad is gonna do like all year we were having the who it wasn't just the mvp conversation because i don't think he was in the mvp conversation but we were having the who's the best player in hockey conversation and i don't know if we brought up crosby once and when i saw him in like the first two games of the series i was like i'm the one who's always barking at people not to forget this guy and i forgot him like is sydney cross okay i'm gonna ask a wild question for 2022 okay is sydney crosby the most underrated player in the national hockey uh he might be okay that's a really good question if you have him outside of the top 10 the answer

is yes oh you're you're maniac if you have him outside the top 10 yeah but we would have earlier this season no we would not have had him outside of the top i think we might have outside of the top 10 yeah because there's a point where you could go uh just this isn't in order but you could throw in mccarr mcdavid ovechkin would have been ahead of crosby matthews uh dry saddle Dry Seidel. There's your top five. Shusterkin. There's McKinnon.

Yossi for the run he was on. I think people would place it because he's defenseman too. Better than Crosby, guys. I don't think people would have said that. I think a lot of people at the end of the season. No, I was going to go with Stamkos. No. No.

No. The season. No. Okay. At the last 10 games of the season, every single game Stamkos had three points or more so here's what he had the greatest

run in NHL history behind Yari Curry I know here's what screwed Crosby is he missed an awkward amount of games he missed 13 which is not insignificant but it's also not like oh

the Penguins missed him for two months it's 13 games so he played 69 he had 84 points he cruises over 100 guys I think he cruises over 100 if anybody had him legitimately outside of the top 10

maybe top 5 I'll grant you top 5 top 10 was difficult to get top 10 watch the game yeah watch hard we got to like 8 come on we got to a solid 8 you got to think about where our mindset was in like February yeah I think we might have had him outside no way

I'm struggling for 2 more guys that'll make top eight that's close like where you it's close with no offense to noted alamo's client like huberto or barkov i wouldn't oh my god not over not over crosby though no but you gotta think about what we were thinking when nobody was talking about cross huberto was probably four or five in the mvp but that doesn't mean that doesn't mean that we wouldn't look we would look at him as a better player no but we would have been doing the your argument for mcdavid in terms of who's the best player right now and it was probably would have had crosby outside of that top 10 i and i 100 agree with that i think maybe we got too used to necessarily but i think the

majority of hockey fans they would have come up with a bunch of names before dude did we just get used to sydney crosby being this good and take it for granted is that what's happened yeah okay yeah all right underrated sydney crosby the same will happen to mcdavid and arguably already has but man springtime is Crosby time baby so here is the here are the lines again sportsinteraction.com slash sdpn so you got Penguins Rangers

tonight Penguins are up a little to take the series although it's the closest game so far what's crazy who do you think is favorite in the Caps Panthers series Panthers to win yeah the series the game tonight and by the way it's tied 2-2 it's in Florida

isn't it I believe it is yeah it's gotta be florida no it's game five it'd be in uh it'd be in florida yeah florida's the favorite yeah of course okay so i just thought that was interesting because the caps have outplayed them the whole way florida saved their entire season with two minutes to go in the game four i do they were down and they needed to score and then force over like i'm shocked that it's that much i do think i'm shocked that it's that much sorry by the way i'm wrong the rangers were favorite over pittsburgh tonight which i think is wild home team okay okay so let's let's get back to pittsburgh sorry panthers capitals my bad uh so it's i do think it's funny and the florida

panthers uh should be giggling a little bit about this that i was like well there's no three on three overtime and well they did just they did just find five on five and they were able to basically save their season did anybody tweet you that that's very funny uh probably dude i haven't been able to keep up first round's chaos i'm having a lot of fun uh can you hear can you tell yeah i'm having a lot of fun um lastly here um you've got the flames obviously favored to take dallas that series to me though i mean it's tied uh and i know calgary had a very convincing win last game, and I know they're the home team.

But Dallas has surprised Calgary, I think, and surprised a lot of people. You want to talk about underrated? Probably, are the Dallas Stars the most underrated NHL team? Based on how they played in the league this playoffs. They have to be at least this playoffs.

I mean, the Kings have got to be up there too. Although I had faith in the Kings, let me just say. Maybe biggest surprise? Most underrated. Yeah, because I don't think anybody gave Dallas a shot. they think four and out five and out something i want to look at all the brackets in the sdpn uh bracket challenge and how many of those had dallas over calgary it's got to be like a handful or like a very low percentage i don't think i had any sweep but uh it doesn't surprise

me that dallas is playing the way they're playing i'm surprised that it's working why is that because it's the flames they should be able to just steamroll over them not because the stars are bad but because the flames are that good i don't think anybody accounted for dallas having the better goaltending in the series jake ottinger has been incredible i thought he'd be good obviously like i think he's a very good goalie probably underrated goalie but i didn't see him out dueling markstrom playoff vesna what is jake ottinger yeah first four games of vesna playoffs i'm giving it to you i mean that's fair did it not kill mccarr for being the first player to ever have uh first defenseman to ever have 10 points in the first four games or your

favorite player ever Billy Husso Billy Husso oh Biddington's won two straight games I'm not complaining I don't remember

what I was about to say it was about Marshall Flames no Ottinger something I don't remember I'm fried

that's okay I'm fried I don't remember what I was about to say wow well how do you expect that series to go

me or Steve both of you I think the Flames ultimately win um but this could go seven and i think it will be right down to the wire please what do you mean the hockey's awful oh it's boring yeah it's boring i mean it's it's it's is it as bad as

the dallas jersey which is worse the dallas stars jersey or the type of hockey they play uh oh this is that's a question for the comment section by the way no i want you to answer i answer me honestly what debate this i would like to know discord please get on this you'd you'd watch like the what was that the 99 stanley cup final jersey 2000 was it new jersey jersey jersey jersey dallas oh pain is like you'd watch that today thinking it was a movie like a poorly filmed movie like just the the style the amount of shit you could get away with remember how huge jerseys used to be yes yeah that was that was a really good change the nhl made a few years back whatever that was um but yeah that was brutal like dallas bless you and everything mix in a few goals

only five players on the dallas stars have scored scored a goal this entire series Joe Pavelski has three Sagan, Hintz Fass and Raffle have one each Bro Joe Pavelski is the only player who scored more than one goal for the Stars

So shut down Pavelski and you probably win Good luck How do you shut down a player who his bread and butter is he doesn't even really move His bread and butter is he stands right there He's like Western Tavares How many shots does Joe Pavelski have this playoffs?

He has three goals. Four. Because he's tipped a lot, hasn't he? How many shots does he have? Two. He has three goals. How many shots does he have? Ten.

He has six shots. Oh, boy. He's shooting 50% because he doesn't do anything but smash the puck in the net. The stars are awesome. I've had this conversation with a few people over the years. I don't think deflections... I think deflections do count as shots. I don't think they should.

I don't think they should. I don't think they should either. They should be their own thing. So, like, it's not like he should have, you know, let's say he scored, you know, three goals and three deflections. You give him three goals on zero shots. I don't think that makes any sense. Right. But, like, it's, I don't know, it just feels inaccurate.

It's like, like, Tavares was awarded a goal last night. Did the puck ever hit his skate? First of all, I don't think so. Yeah. Let's say. I think Willie scored. I think Willie scored it, but still awarded to Tavares. It doesn't matter.

Let's say it did hit Tavares' skate. Sure. I don't believe you're allowed to be, unless you're on the bench and the other team makes a mistake, I don't think you're allowed to be awarded a goal without it counting as a shot. And I'm fairly certain when the puck goes off your skate, it counts as a shot.

Mm-hmm. Because you have to have a shot. Well, I know, but the shot should go to the last person. It should count as... Deflection. Yeah, something. Do you get the goal? Yeah, you get the goal,

but I think... Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think the shot should... So let's say Justin Hall, who, by the way, had an outstanding game, but we didn't get to that. He was amazing.

And let me just say, I was wrong. I was wrong. Justin Hall takes a shot and Tavares tips it in. Hall gets the shot counted towards him. Tavares gets the deflection

counted towards him. And I bet that would actually be a pretty useful stat. I'm sure teams keep track of it. If you needed that presence, who's got the most deflections? There's no way they don't.

they have to if you can think of a way to improve a stat like just a logical way to improve a stat uh nhl teams probably keep it so you guys want players to be able to score goals without having a shot on goal joe pavelski doesn't shoot like okay when he shoots he's got three goals on six shots yeah but if they're deflections and i don't know how many of them are right but like if they're deflections why are we why are we calling that a shot he didn't shoot it he flicked at the thing he batted it down or batted it up yeah he changed the direction he changed the direction of it and he's the best at it but it's not a shot why are we calling it a shot what type of shot would you call it is it a wrist shot snapshot slap shot no it's a fucking deflection call it what it is

yeah yeah no it's interesting i don't know like oh man he's shooting 50 no he's super isn't if he scored on three shots i can't remember yeah i don't have the pavelski goal pack in front of me i'm sorry i'm purely assuming because it's joe pavelski i'm i assume he's he's scored four deflections chris johnson three goals the calder trophy nominees are michael bunting moritz cider and trevor's egress that makes sense now i think i think it's funny that i believe Michael Bunting was born several days after Nathan McKinnon, and Nathan McKinnon won it seven years ago.

Wow. Which is kind of nuts. And they went in different drafts, though. They did go in different drafts, and obviously, you know, Kyle Dubas made his play for Michael Bunting. I think we know where this is going. That's so funny. But I do find the Calder nominee... Are we going to know who finished second in voting? Yeah.

The voting's always released. So honestly, who do you give second place to? I think Sider's the winner. Although Detroit, if he does... But who do you give second place to? Is it Bunting or Zegras? Who do you think it's going to be? Not who you would give it to because it's clearly Bunting.

Who's going to get voted in second? I have Bunting coming in second. Zegras did more with less. Bunting did more of consequent. Does that make sense? And that's not like, listen, would Zegras have done a better job on Matthews and Marner's wing? uh yeah maybe like would he have put up more points maybe slash probably but um you know

just because you get thrown into a certain position it doesn't mean you're going to succeed yeah no there's a lot of like nick ritchie did not succeed dude how many line mates were they looking for for crosby before they found who knits they and then had to replace him with genzel crosby's had at least two dozen line mates over his career at least yeah like regular line mates um a bunch of whom you like i don't even know if they made it to like 300 nhl games you know like that guy they they tried out a ton of uh people um nick ritchie they signed with basically the expressed purpose of either playing with matthews or tavaris and he couldn't do it so just because bunting put up a bunch of points with matthews and marner i don't think that should

take away from the votes he gets look at the goal last night uh the game winning goal he he helped set up plays like that all season long and do matthews and marner do the majority of the legwork yeah is the legwork even possible without bunting no so he's not a passive he's he plays so you're saying bunting over zebras i'm saying neither i'm saying it's second and third and i don't care because it's going to be I still ask the question bunting because it's funny

okay alright with that let's do the press conference