The Steve Dangle Podcast - Auston in Boston | April 23, 2024

Episode Date: April 23, 2024

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Iggy Dangle! (00:00), Leafs beat the Bruins in game 2 and tie the series 1-1 (05:00), Mark Stone scores in his first game back (1:02:00), looking at the other first round games (1:10:00), Canucks beat the Preds in George Vancouver's town (1:32:00), and cap overages (1:45:00). Join the sdpn Bracket Challenge and compete for glory, bragging rights, and/or prizes! We got 'em all! Join here 🚨➡️ https://ow.ly/Q0mV50RkaIc Password: DANGLE Join SDP VIP: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0a0z05HiddEn7k6OGnDprg/join Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/thestevedanglepodcast Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sdpvip/subscribe Visit this episode's sponsors: Tim Hortons Guests across Canada can start collecting the NEW Tim Hortons Greatest Duos Trading Cards set! Each card in the set consists of two icons - hockey rivals, teammates, family members and more - connected in a unique way. The set features a mix of current NHL® players, retired legends, and women superstars. Guests also have a chance to find a Collect to Win Golden Prize card and win exciting prizes, such as a 2024 Hyundai ELANTRA or Hyundai VENUE vehicle, or a trip to Montreal to watch a Canadiens game and meet Nick Suzuki. Visit a participating Tims location or the Tim's App for more details. https://timhortons.ca/TimsC2W Go to http://shadyrays.com and use code SDP for 50% off 2 or more pairs of polarized sunglasses. Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Join us on Discord: https://discord.com/invite/MtTmw9rrz7 For general inquiries email: [e-mail] Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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i'll go first i got brady kachuk and matthew kachuk interesting well done okay uh oh they're of the commercial i know those guys i got jack eichel and clayton keller steve do you know why they are on a car oh shoot we did this last time um they're both on team usa and also have the is it same number they are both number nine well done i'm sorry jesse you have one lastly Jean Beliveau and Henri Richard. Oh, there you go. That's wow. Stanley Cups on that card. A lot. A lot of Stanley Cups.

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at Tim Hortons. Go pick up your cards. Let's start the show. Adam's doing a lot of mumbling during the intro. You know, when I used to collect hockey cards, you know, I'm like, I'm becoming an old man. You know, old men mumbled themselves. 20 bucks.

my mom used to make my grandfather used to mumble under his breath because we'd we you know he was very set in his ways and we'd go visit him in calgary and of course you know interrupting his routine and he was an old man sure and he'd be mumbling in the kitchen about how you know she didn't watch him wanted to watch law and order for three hours straight and he'd be like law and order and she'd be like jim i can hear you that's very old he was going deaf did they also like have shout arguments while on speakerphone with you uh no the speakerphone was not it's adam he's caught no he called us he called i didn't why would i call him jim anyway um i jesse i sent you a tweet that i'd like you to bring up and this just feels like this feels like um something

that's really important today for hockey fans yes because some half hockey fans that are in the playoffs are are thrilled and half are heartbroken none more so than the new york islanders and i loved this tweet that was posted and it's a note at somebody's desk that says full disclosure if you ask me about the new york islanders today expect a phone call from my attorney thank you heartbreaking for the new york islanders yeah so like i know uh people don't love when you change your pick mid-round uh and i think that's unfair because holy shit oh boy oh boy aisles and seven well this is just you know you gotta lose more than two absolutely to get to seven so they're gonna lose again we'll get into uh that a little bit later but first

steve wanted to show you the raw footage i'm so happy about the raw footage of victory puppies now i'm so proud can you explain the background here for your lfr because this this has to do with domey and matthews yeah so drew doesn't really do this but like like when when the game ends he's just like have at it and he every now and then will offer a suggestion and it's always great and this video he goes hey reenact the matthews goal the the domey sauce pass the matthews with iggy for victory puppies and iggy is very well trained as you will see this is the unedited victory puppies leading up to well you'll just have to see is there sound on it uh yes there is okay you can talk over it see how well trained he is i'm looking at myself in the monitor

making sure he's in frame i'm in frame treats on the floor and we're ready to go you're really thinking about this hard no but look at him look at him victory puppies no no stay there sit sit we gotta reenact the game winning goal Domi to Matthews first try first try let's go I'm so happy who autographed

that stick Nikita Gusev oh it's Nikita Gusev autographed stick I like I want to see this do you see the spit fly probably yeah let's get oh look at you see the spit fly from me Iggy spit oh yeah oh oh yeah I thought it was me

oh wow no this long string I love that um That drool is going to be on the carpet for the next 20 years. Look at the utter shock in my face. Look at the childlike wonder. Dude, I love my job. That's so...

I was buzzing off that the whole rest of the night. How do you get to sleep after that? Can you keep that frozen there, Jesse? That face that he's just... There you go. That's excitement right there. Because I couldn't frigging believe it. That was a good catch.

That was a good catch for me. He's good. Steve will be streaming again tomorrow night for the Leafs-Bruins game. I will be streaming tonight for the Canucks game. Thanks to everybody that either tuned in late

or just joined. We had people from all over. Lots of Canucks fans. And we celebrated together. It was lots of fun. Dakota Joshua, former Leaf. No longer. Very Vancouver right now.

Okay, so I can tell you that there's a bar that is an anti-Leaf bar outside of Vancouver Island. or sorry on vancouver island because outside of vancouver island assuming is the water is it anti-leaf or is it pro oilers it's i don't know 17 mile house pub okay come watch all four leafs playoff games was there was their big billboard and i just want to say ha there's gonna be at least five yeah also also um all the leafs we just always have the leafs thrown in our face

the toronto media and the leafs hey you guys are playing nashville yeah yeah yeah enough about that the leafs main character always you can't live without us and it's a shame going into game two in boston if matthews had not scored uh it would have been eight straight without a goal um but he he was at seven straight and that was painful enough yes and in the straight playoff games a straight playoff or playoff right or just goals or games and okay that was playoff okay yeah because he's gone like a while now without when was 69 yeah yeah that was game six scored one against 80 right so that was game 80 70 uh yeah 80 80 okay yeah um and you know that's that's tough when your best player can't score he scored uh the first goal in the 2-1 game six victory against

tampa and then he never scored against florida that's what i that's what they said on the broadcast they could have been wrong um but uh long story short it was a uh it's an interesting one um first period mccabe who's my favorite defenseman on the team dude like takes takes a dumb penalty that you just can't take i mean i want to go conspiracy theory when that happens to the leafs they never call it um but i mean it was a call it's a call it's an ease like i haven't had a single issue with the refs this series not not one they've been they've been fine nope they've exactly what i expected maybe a soft one here or there the reeves one was really funny i guess i'm skipping ahead you are uh marshand scores on the power play and you know you're thinking like

i was geeky scored on the power play martian was in there um the leafs answer back though and this is where this what this game's about this game is about answering back leafs answer back a minute later actually probably like 10 seconds later 14 uh matthews off the post on a weird bounce off the stanchion and domey puts the rebound home and i don't know if i've seen a leaf be that excited to score a goal ever no like max domey exploded no oh yeah just they needed it like oxygen they needed it so bad and they needed it in that moment uh they don't score on that shift who knows how the game goes right then later on in the first period um the leafs this is at the end of the first period in the last minute my favorite time to let in a goal uh sammy doesn't cover the puck

then tries to swipe it over to lilligren and he misses it and then he does it on the second go and then lilligren smashes it off the boards it pops over edmondson's stick um and then it leads to a kerfuffle sammy gets hit in the face with the puck and then they lose the next face off and it goes immediately to the back of the net and with the best coverage i've ever seen some bad coverage so so no one can decide who to blame jesse can you uh what's up do you have that on your screen the uh the coverage no i was looking at matthew's goal log from the playoffs just to correct you because it's it was uh six straight games he went because he didn't score or five or six straight games because he didn't score against florida but he scored in the final

game of the tampa series oh okay and then there's one boston okay okay yeah um here i'm i'm sending it to jesse because i have the screen cap from uh the lfr oh it failed the coverage here i'll just i'll just pull it up steve it's not great coverage is not great and i don't it's it's it's funny there's like pro hockey players on twitter like debating who to blame the the jury seems to be benoit or marner right with a little honorary a secondary assist to matthew nice yeah i saw i saw more nice than than uh benoit he it was a there was a lot of struggle i mean defenseman does not necessarily mean in front of the net guy like that's not always how it shakes out um but either way there was a breakdown here and something real bad that shouldn't happen happened jesse is getting

to that yeah there you go that's that was perfect oh dear it's bad and you know this is the kind of coverage that drives leave fans crazy it's the stuff that you you go come on guys like it's there's 10 seconds or there's 15 seconds left in the period can we just make this happen and i i actually squarely put this at the feet of of uh ilia samson off he should have covered the puck yep after he swiped it and missed just cover it blow it dead and not cause you know because i think getting hit in the cheek couldn't have felt good with the puck and then they're all a little bit all over the place yeah take yourself out of the game you're hurt get out that's what i was saying on the stream like everyone's like oh well he just got great get out you hurt is not better

than joseph voll get out like i was so done with him at first intermission i was like i i don't want to i have no appetite for seeing another second of this guy in this series like i was over it i was done and then of course he is freaking magical and that was the last goal he allowed just jesse has it that's pretty yeah you want this so you see the puck at the the blue line there yeah and there are two leafs on i think that's pasternak yeah and uh you have martyr high at the top there underneath the body armor sign uh you've got i'm not sure what the two defensemen are doing there but uh whoever they're supposed to cover um so that's not the two this is benoit here that's that's nize who bumps into benoit here and doesn't allow him to do anything

okay and then i'm not sure what marner's doing because where he's at you can't cover the net and it's a dual threat you can't cover the point either i really liked uh nize's effort in this game but this is where you're seeing the downgrade from uh mcmahon denies like at i think nize has a higher upside he's obviously much younger than mcmahon but mcmahon is a just a quicker better defensive forward than nye's at this stage in their careers and then what's going on oh it's just past a completely alone and marner diving and doing whatever he freaking can so the reason i don't i i initially it's like ah marner he should have been on that guy and then when you go back and watch and you see some of the the coverage there it should be that this is this

is Marner's guy up here yeah you know because they they come out of the face-off circle and they're playing man-to-man defense so somebody should have been one of these two guys I don't know if it's Benoit or Nyes it's probably Nyes should have been on pasta here come to the middle and Marner tries to get back and cover it but over there like that's not I don't think that's his responsibility no every single time it looks visually bad on him i'll say this listen marner has uh through two games looked awful he's looked awful and leafs nation is just bludgeoning this guy bludgeoning him and again you're a star that's what the money's for you got to be able to drive your own line he's not like not even close after 40 minutes the expected

goals four percentage for the second line tovaris marner and nize was 2.9 i don't think i've ever seen that um that being said let's pick our spots eh like let's let's make sure we're right let's make sure it's like what are the odds that the problem here is marner and not the two guys bumping into each other i think i think that's a really good yeah that's that's like after you what initially when you're sitting there watching the game live you're like marner's diving to pasta and he scores like what the fuck are you doing mitch no he's diving because he's making the adjustment to oh fuck no one has pasta exactly and then you go back and you sit there and you're like oh two guys bumped into each other nearly at the blue line where are you going yeah and

marner's trying to make up for that lack of coverage because his man is up top there and he's like oh shit pasta's coming in the middle i've got to squeeze down and get him yeah so mitch marner i think he had he had a terrible game last night but i don't think this play in particular is on him the most everything else he's done in his career is on him the most you i think you can wow uh the most you i think you can you can say about marner here when you really break it down is that he is also not in a good defensive position one way or the other if that puck goes to the point he can't cover the point and no so he's moving right now i know but if you go back to your original screen grab right um he's as i told you it's a dual threat he can't cover

what's in front of the net and he can't cover the point but i don't think in front of the net is his responsibility i agree but he's not close enough to the to gap up on that defenseman at at the i understand what adam's trying to say he's in like a little bit of a no man's land yeah right he can't be effective in that positioning but i'm not blaming him on this play right and that's my point is that i think that there is something off with this player right now and it might be coming back from injury and not being fully healthy um it might be uh it could be a bunch of things i don't know what what it is what one thing that they said sorry what jesse just showed was uh there's one leave back i think it was mccabe and then he takes off and then geeky's like uh don't

mind if i do and he just goes right to the front of the net yeah no no i don't i don't put that play on him i also don't think his positioning's great i think that's contributing to why in this shot where he's like super close to the player if if pasternak gets the the high bruins defenseman there what's marner gonna do he's toast he'll walk right around him if okay and and so that my point is that i can understand why people are like he's not in a good position to do anything because he isn't but that's not him it's not on him to get pasternak uh here's here's a question so that line got caved in first two periods of the game not sure what it was in the third did keith have the option to substitute at that whistle uh this is right off a face-off yeah i

think so because it leaves covered right oh they don't have last change but i guess it doesn't matter yeah but you decided to shut down the period with this i don't think he was looking at their expected goals i think he looks at john tavaris and goes that's my best shot at winning a face-off okay great matthews is tired you're not gonna put i mean you're not gonna put camp out there you're not nice doing out there i mean i think he's trying to make that line work and at that that was really enough in the game you're like well i mean remember tabar scored later on um they are they are trying to get nice to be better here we he really got exposed kind of for some of his defensive warts in the second half of the season but then like they started

giving him like penalty kill time once mcmahon went down um yeah it's tough it's tough thank god they didn't lose this game yeah uh anthony petrelli did tweet that exact thing he said uh we're uh odd to put the uh the worst defensive line on the team out there i think i think you nailed it with the face-off thing like you put john tavarez out there to win the face-off and i think that's i think that's the long and the short of it you don't expect this to happen you expect him to win the face-off you also you this whole thing is only because they messed up the breakout because samsonov couldn't get the puck on his on his goalie stick like if you simply with 10 or 13 seconds left you simply break out to the neutral zone and then there'll be five seconds

left in the period and you go to intermission like this whole thing is avoided so that's that's the real blame of this issue is the frustration too i think from least nation is i think the frustration is that we see this all the time this is this is like okay so you know every shot is a defensive breakdown we know that yes you know um and that's why sometimes you look at your goal and you're like i need to save i need to save but i feel like there are defensive breakdowns with the leafs that are the same i'm watching the same movie i've seen this i've seen this movie and and i see it sometimes in big situations what i haven't seen is the team not just go well it's all over you're right what they could have done in the second period and i have seen this happen

uh and we've all seen it happen uh is they come out and they go well they feel sorry for themselves and they kind of you know take five minutes to get going that's not what happened there's been an adjustment in team attitude their systems still lack the or at very least the implementation of them they came out and did an extraordinary job i think in the second period completely changed where this game was going i thought for the vast majority of the game they were the better team yes no question no question and i do get that goal late and obviously that is the john tavaris goal on the power play power play from uh matthews and tavaris and after two disallowed goals yes yes so um okay i have to ask the the nick robertson almost gold oh

crazy saying by olmark that there's no way that you could ever overturn that because you can't conclusively see that his gloves in the net you know what's funny you're thinking of the wrong one oh he robbed robertson point blank i think that was in the third period you're thinking of yarn croak one oh yes i am yeah and the yarn croak one is is the deep one was it a goal yeah there's a greater than zero percent chance that it was could you prove it no it's no no here's the thing you could prove it if you invested in the technology which exists and is not that expensive right but they don't have it and then like last year the uh the game was it five against florida in toronto the riley one where we all thought he scored and honestly he probably did

but you you can't prove it you can't prove it so it's no goal um and Bertuzzi wasn't a goal either so the the expected goals through two periods and Steve mentioned this I'm just going to read this off for you expected by whom uh expected by Lindy Ruff is now a Sabres coach we'll get to that uh Bertuzzi Matthews Domi expected goals 80.8 percent Dewar Comp Reeves great line 48 percent yeah i thought they had a good game i like the way they're playing robertson holmberg yarn croak 76.1 percent nize tabaris marner 2.9 percent one thing that caved in so you go into the second period or sorry the second intermission title one thing that drove me nuts on the panel is that they all seem to agree that it's on sheldon keith to get mitch marner going

so therefore what he needs to do is put mitch marner in next to austin matthews and i i have to ask the question and i know he's a human being um and i know that tomorrow night when they play he could be the best player on the ice because he's got that kind of talent at what point do you say sorry mitch i got this line going great it isn't my job to get you going it's your job well and he still does play with matthews he was subbing him in throughout the third period yeah there was a defensive situation where i was like okay matthews is out there he should probably be out there with mitch instead of domi oh okay good he is which makes sense you know but um uh 10.9 mil uh i know the coach's job is to get their guys going and get the most out of them

it's one guy the the conversation is so consistently around this one guy there was another clip going around of uh the puck is in the corner marner's going after it charlie McAvoy's going after it McAvoy uh sorry Marner is clearly going to be the first one to it he does that thing where he steps around McAvoy to try to get position and do a stick lift Nylander got criticized for this last playoff too um but like it was so poorly executed that you're just like this I can't use this player I can't use this player right now and you know like I've never seen a player take so much crap after a Leafs playoff win I've never seen that like uh what was the James Sharman tweet it'd be great when they have Nylander and

Marner back man that's so tough soccer expert yeah no I saw lots of people make that joke like it's tough it's tough for the guy right now and I don't know what to do like it's funny I've seen some people suggest like using him at center i'm not convinced he'd be that much worse yeah but it's something you've never tried no i would also kick all the entire coaching staff down the that doesn't make much sense mid playoffs um but you know i i feel like that ship has sailed just like it's sailed with kneelander um i don't know what to do i don't know what i think you have to leave it in the hands of the player themselves i mean this does have listen nobody's disputing marner's world beating talent i think the reason that people are so hard on him is because it's

not even because of the money well because it's a little because of the money i think it's more because of the talent i think everybody's seen him play great and we know what it looks like and we want that and we need that now we don't need that in game 62 we need it now i'm gonna be honest if mitch marner made three million dollars i'd be fine with his play i'd be like that's a great penalty killer you know well yeah yeah if he was making cali yarn croak salary yeah You'd be like, oh, yeah, that's a great, great guy for the value. Plug and play. Did you see he also has like 90 points?

That's crazy. Like, you know what clip I keep I'm fascinated with and we have not analyzed enough is that behind the bees thing where it was during the regular season. And Jake McCabe cross-checks Marchand in the throat. And Marchand is beside himself, indignant, yelling, angry at Mitch Marner. Why is Mitch taking strays for that? He's screaming at Mitch and he goes, you're going to get it. You're going to get it. I'm coming for you.

You're going to get it. You're going to get it. Oh, because? Because bullies know who to pick on. Oh, I see. Bullies know who to pick on. What's he going to do? Go with Jake McCabe?

No. never he'll eat him whole what's he gonna do who's he gonna go after austin matthews they'll kill you someone will grab you and snatch the soul out of your corpse it'll be like the end of it'll be like johnny cage losing and uh what is it uh not oh a mortal kombat mortal kombat too when he dies right at the beginning oh spoilers man sorry come on that just came that was a sad day it was it was no but this is this is what i'm talking about um marshan and i think other guys have identified their easy target and you know matthews has domey and bertuzzi who go nuts anytime anyone goes near him and that's great almost feels like mitch needs that that's a good

point almost feel almost you know how you know how um Domi grabbed a rookie on the devils and just beat the brakes off him holy shit nearly took his head off if that uppercut connects and everyone was like yeah don't touch Matthews Matthews is a big boy like he I don't want anyone touching him either but like he can handle himself it's too late because it's the playoffs But if game three or four gets out of hand and someone's given Mitch a hard time, get yourself kicked out of the game. Like, like, like, like, I don't give a shit what you do. I don't give a shit what you do as long as they understand. Because you got to give this player room.

Speak to the Boston Bruins in the oldest language is what I'm saying. Because this kid can't do it for himself. so you got to speak up for him in the oldest language there is in humanity it's the playoffs it's what they've it's what they would do it's what they've done every single time they've always understood the oldest language i also don't think that they've got the time to learn ancient mesopotamian it's brutal like it's a really is that the oldest thing i was one of them one of them i don't know if that's the most old marner the worst expected goals through the two games of any forward on the team like that's that's shocking he's behind guys like Holmberg

and Reeves and Nyes and Yarncroft all of them greater spectacles Nyes is a big boy can he do that um well he suffered a concussion last playoff I mean he can he got into a fight didn't he yeah this season I mean I look at him as a guy who one day he's just gonna be like oh I'm fucking huge like sometimes we forget he played in college and they don't do that there right um mcmahon will go you and again there's just a little something that mcmahon has that nize doesn't have yet like i see mcmahon as exactly the sort of player nize could be next year or the year after and then sky's the limit because nize can do things with his hands that mcmahon can't um but someone's got to stick up for this guy he won't do it for himself

and sticking up for him does not mean oh play him with austin matthews we've seen it um you're addressing you're taking away from a strength to address a weakness and a real strength a real that line is unbelievable fans don't have an appetite for it anymore the coaching staff clearly doesn't have an appetite for it anymore figure it out you have what do you think mitch needs to do it and obviously we don't know learn to fight well other than learn to fight what do what do you think guys like what do you think he can do to put himself in a position to get this you know it's a bit of a cold streak bit of a monkey off his back i don't think he would he would love his performance against detroit or tampa or florida even those those are games 80

81 and 82 um he's had history in the past with matthews being a spectacular one-two duo but in the playoffs the reason you split them up is because you can neutralize one line you can neutralize one line he just he looks joyless right now like it's it's not about being lazy he doesn't look like he's having fun he hasn't looked like he's had fun for a long time and you know there are sometimes like even in a goal celebration where um you know you ever know you ever see it in someone when they're faking it you know oh yeah they're being fake happy right now um like when he was being a tough guy in matthew kachuk's face at the uh end of game four last year marner was spectacular in

that game he had a goal and an assist in a 2-1 win and uh kachuk is punching him after the whistle he got suspended for that i'm kidding you're allowed to do that in the nhl uh and marner just goes like yeah in his face because i don't know he doesn't really have experience responding to that type of behavior right right um i i don't i don't know i don't have the answer the people closest to him his teammates they know way better than me um i don't know um hopefully winning you get to win series is tied you're coming home what's not to feel good about what's not to feel good about uh that building you know loves you when you put up the points you know they love you you score first leafs go up first get a nice big game three win i don't know but you can't only

feel good about yourself when you're winning and he doesn't even look like he's feeling good about himself when they do so i don't i don't know what to do there it was a big third third period for the leafs uh matthews was split from domey a couple times split from bertuzzi a couple times so Marner could take some spots. Obviously, the Matthews dome-y goal is pretty spectacular. Basically, like a football pass, like a lob, and Matthews catches it with his hand,

gets past the defenseman, and works his way around Linus Olmark, who's a fantastic goaltender. It's McAvoy! Yeah. McAvoy! Because it's Lin-Hol McAvoy, and they've been stapled to Matthews the entire time.

They've line-matched them. And he had three points. and he had three points and so uh and his numbers actually just are crazy throughout um throughout that the game um i wanted to know from that goal perspective like where does that rank in matthews i'll call it the matthews era but like where does that rank in terms of playoff goals oh playoff goals is one you think it's probably one yeah in terms of goals overall he's had bigger goals i think he's had bigger games in terms of like he's had four goal games and that sort of yeah like he's looked more dominant but damn but playoff goal i don't think i don't there's not

been a bigger playoff goal he scored he hasn't had a i don't think he hasn't had an ot winner no i'm trying to think oh he hasn't so he got the game winner game 3 2018 against the bruins but he scored that on the power play in the second period um he scored the first goal in game six last year against tampa um oh wait yes he does have an ot winner which one you know why you forget bubble columbus in that crazy uh comeback the one where they were down like three goals in a minute and they all came back he scored the ot winner in that game matthew says one um one overtime winner in the playoffs and no one was in the building to see it i was looking through i'll i'm pulling up his game log right now and i'm just looking at game winning goals

um he has one that columbus one well done steve he has one against montreal um that would be game two montreal he had a yeah but the leafs won that one five one one goal two assists and he had the game winning goal in that game and then tampa game uh to do tampa in 2022 he had a game winner which game uh that would have been one two they played Tampa so many times I was trying to count it off that's game four game four one two three no game five sorry sorry sorry game five game it's really hard to look at that I can't I can't remember it's so hard yeah just I highlight it there so game game five he had a game winner and then uh I think oh wait a sec no no no no no the building lost their minds for that one that was a nice give and go with him and Marner

the 2022 yeah that was yeah they uh they got one tampa tied it and then uh austin and mitch uh went ballistic and they scored and the leaf shut it down after that i remember that oh and then the leafs never went on to win uh another game in the series awesome yep yep yeah yeah they lost in seven yeah that's too straight yeah that was awesome um i think mitch matthews i think this is the best goal unless you i guess columbus and then this one well the columbus one was just like a power play one timer this is the nastiest one it's the nastiest one but that one saved the season technically so i'll give it i'll if we're doing the official rankings i'm ranking columbus then last night nah you're putting this one over that's recency bias but whatever okay

the bubble only counts if you won like so i'm not taking anything away from tampa but when the leash lost. I'm like, nah, it doesn't count. Stop. Stop. No,

it doesn't count. Oh my God. No, the math checks out. No, the math works. Two in five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer.

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The one thing I wanted to hit is later on in the game, you have... Domi has three points? Two points, I said. Oh, two points. Goal and an assist. um later on in the game you have a little bit of a scrum and bush and i forget doesn't matter got into it and they're both going off and then bertuzzi comes in i think and smacks uh marshan across the back of the legs now you know that would sting but we've seen brad marshan take

way more abuse than that and he dove like it was the olympics this summer there's a clip going around and people have said that marshan grabbed the wrong leg i don't think so i don't think that's true i thought it was a dive i don't need i don't need to go any deeper no no he whacked him on the leg a hundred percent but no he dove and that call that he sold the call and bertuzzi went went uh to the penalty uh went to the penalty box but here's the great thing the leafs actually had a great penalty kill maddie if you want to just pull this up so i can dispel any he grabbed the wrong leg things there is the stick on the outside of the leg here is him grabbing the outside of that leg yeah he didn't grab the right leg like people miss information on twitter all the time

he grabbed the left leg yeah right i can see though because the stick kind of disappears into the pads i can see why the black on black people are trying to confuse you and make fun of marshan but yeah you make fun of him for diving like he did that thing and you know what the thing is is that in previous years what i what i thought was different about this is it it it made him look intelligent right it made him look like well there's the there's the guy that gets under my skin and he draws a penalty and he's such a rat and it oh he's a massive cheater but but like what i thought what i saw here was it just made him look a bit weak he got a power play he got a power play but it was weak i you marsh and if they score i that's not weak that's that's your

play in the game marsh and did the thing that the leafs have claimed to have been doing for the last like six years yeah right oh no our weapon is our power play no power plays arrive and when they do you don't score ah well nevertheless everybody should be clowning marsha and for eternity for this nonsense like that's not how you're supposed to play the sport at all it just doesn't make the bruins look tough as my but if they score on the power play yeah it works but game two's in the in the rearview mirror now they start to tighten it up a little bit these these calls oh yeah are going away they're going away they'll still hang around game three they'll be around game four game five six seven right all right they tighten that shit right up i hated them calling the cross

check on mccabe i think that's a cross check that happens in the back a million times a game that's not called after the whistle yeah i think that was the montreal toronto series what's that where were these refs in the montreal toronto series yeah for which one uh for edmondson and weber on the leafs yeah you can't call them all steve right oh my god i just you see that happen all the time guys cross check out the guy no reason mccabe should have been called for this and no reason matthew uh matthew nice um tyler batuzzi should have been called for this either do you think so yeah no no i'm of the opinion that just because it doesn't ever get called doesn't mean it's not a penalty but i get we have this conversation every fucking time if this is

the standard going forward yep it's and it's never is it never ever ever ever say it yeah if the standard is every ticky tack infraction is getting called we saw with the domey thing in game one where he hit him on the wrist that got called ever the mccabe crosscheck that's getting called you better keep it up you better have every single time they commit an actual infraction which it is which they don't usually call then call it the whole series but they're not going to this is a fascinating series in terms of physicality because the bruins are laying bigger hits um i think the leafs are laying bigger punishment if that makes sense that i would i wanted to talk about that because i think the leafs for check his really they keep pounding

the boston defense i i we need if the second line gets going even a bit the bruins are dead because Tavares I couldn't believe his numbers when I saw them is an animal is an animal out there he's in a board battle every five seconds and he wins it very very very often that exchange with him and pasta holy shit how don't you love that pasta puts him right on his ass Tavares gets up wins a board battle puts him on his ass holy shit that was awesome it was so good but like I'm talking after the whistle stuff it's almost like the leafs finally finally finally for the first time in over half a decade went on the team vcr and started watching their own footage and started watching the outcome of you i hate when coaches go you know what we're burning the

tape we're not we're not going to watch that's a one-off loss we're not watching it i want the Leafs to pry their eyes open and watch game seven from 2019 against Bruins I want them to I watched it so do you I watched it so you have to as well this is what they do this is what they do and now the Leafs have started to strangely excel in beating the dog shit out of opponents whenever what like one of these days like i sometimes i imagine a scenario where it's like 25 years from now and i'm thinking about shutting it down and people find old clips of the podcast and they go wow so he's always been like this like he he's always been a caveman and we're gonna people are gonna look at us like we're the old school hockey guys oh back when men were men

like which is something that i can't wrap my head around but hockey more than any other sport there's just all these unwritten rules which are not rules by the way that's how rules work is you write them down and then they are but unwritten rules are just shit that you can enforce whenever the hell you want uh hockey is the only sport where you're legally allowed to beat the shit at your opponent uh because you feel like it yeah and you won't get called except for the sometimes when you do and when you do get called there's no argument against it other than but what about the other times you didn't call it but as long as the rules are the way they are throw a punch i'd like to go back to the marsh and uh bertuzzi thing though because that continued after the game

after the game there was like a quick five second shot of bertuzzi and marsh and yelling at each other and it's such a juxtaposition from the first i don't know game eight game 10 of the season where marshan was getting one over on the leafs bench and bertuzzi's on the bench laughing and that was to see the two of them going at it knowing how much bertuzzi liked being a bruin and how much bertuzzi is now a leaf dude it's it's uh what movie is it i feel like it's one of the batmans just me going to tyler bertuzzi and just saying i never said thank you and him turning around going and you'll never have to like just that was his apology yeah to just and and he didn't need to i think apology accepted tyler fuck yeah early in the season as much as

they downplayed the bertuzzi stuff like publicly i think he got it talking to from the guys i think he understood like it was a mistake to laugh on the bench and he heard the media and the fans like be like that's unacceptable and from there it seems like he's truly become a leaf and it's good to see there were two seminal moments from really shitty games this season that one and uh riley the friggin cross check and ridley greg in the head and uh the leafs winning five straight after it or whatever it was um you know it's not necessarily yeah cross checked him in the head and that turned their whole season around i think what it more was is hey that never happens if we don't lose to the friggin sense if your net's not empty they can't score an empty net goal yes

exactly um i think lessons were learned of all the defensemen on the ice ilia labushkin played the least he played 14 minutes and 14 seconds really uh edmondson mccabe and riley all over 20 minutes lilligren was just under it uh 1931 and benoit 1736 are we setting up for a return of tj brody do you think well the uh the all the game score and expected goals and all that labushkin was the number one defenseman oh so maybe what they've done is figured out deployment yeah they've isolated his time on ice yeah no they they deployed him well and i know edmondson's numbers weren't very good um which i was a little surprised by because i actually really liked his presence out there it was calm but maybe part of the reason uh it wasn't so great his numbers

is uh it was a really tight game and the leafs had the lead for a decent chunk of the third period and they threw him out there because they trusted him that's probably why interesting austin matthews had played 2208 mike babcock could never no he'd be he'd be limited to he along with mitch marner and uh i'm looking at the uh yeah austin mitch and tyler bertuzzi led the team forwards so austin played 22 mitch played 20 and bertuzzi played right around 18 it's so hard for me to wrap my head around matthews and marner playing almost the same amount and having their minutes go so differently i think with marner though it's it's penalty kill right yeah yeah yeah that's true yeah he's out there for a lot more of the time and he's useful on the penalty

kill i i think i that's the one part of his game where i'm like i i still feel good about this he's he's one of the best penalty killers i think of the national hockey league like he's still exceptional at that yep it's just five on five offensively you lose them yeah and sometimes defensively as well five on five um with the labushkin thing um at uh all situations i believe no defenseman had more uh had less defensive zone starts than elia labushkin okay so they're so they're very clearly using him to keep the puck in the zone yeah and once it comes in the zone you're out it works yeah well they've got the depth to cover for it what if he was just playing too much that is the coaching staff making a big adjustment and having it work

wonderfully this is not too like him playing 14 minutes isn't like it when we talk about deployment i think you guys make a really really good point i i always go back to chicago when they had duncan keith at his height and i think it was the 15 run and and chemo team and who was just almost unplayable was playing four minutes dude they had three defensemen they did and it It was Seabrook, Keith, and oh, I don't remember if it was or yeah, but one of them got hurt, though. Oh, right. So it was like three guys.

And that's what they deployed. Yeah. And so so like Labushkin playing 14 minutes is still significant. If he was playing chemo teaming in or even earlier this year, Max Lojoie, you know, five minute nights. Yeah, he's probably coming out. Then what's the point? But 14 is still no, that's great.

Yeah. And when Keefe's out there and they got a setup in the defensive zone, they don't put Lubushkin out there because they know what they got. If you dominate your 14 minutes, I think the dominating part is more important than the 14. Exactly. I want to talk about two more things that are really leafy. First one, Samsonov, bad first period.

Not great. Bloody brilliant the rest of the way. Bloody brilliant the rest of the way. Even on the Pasternak goal, like the whole defensive breakdown, everything that happened before him the shot went into his chest it went through pasta shot that to the middle of the net i was and if you don't over push like he loves to do every single time the one his spectacular save he talked about it in the post game he's like i just pushed as hard as i could yeah i can't do the accent so i'm not gonna try but that's that's how he described making the save and in that

situation with the pasta one timer he pushed as hard as he could and the puck went right through the other side of him his knees on the first goal are are pointed at least 90 degrees away from the puck he's like i gotta get over there from the puck carrier dude it's terrible um no so that first period did not inspire confidence brilliant the rest of the way i thought kelly rudy's analysis of the shot to the face was also interesting because it's the he called it a new style of goaltending where you're always down low you're always kind of in the butterfly and in those situations pucks that go up high when you're against the post hit you in the mask was kelly was kelly pro goalie on uh i think his analysis he's a very nice man i think his analysis of

goaltending is always spot on and describing it that way i'm like there's little things with samson off positioning where it's like he'll never be otherworldly like we'll never have the number one one of the top five goaltenders in the league but he can definitely hold fort and for most of the game and get you wins and hopefully get you a couple rounds of wins but you'll never be like that guy no but he can do crazy shit he can do crazy shit which is fun and that can save you a game or two and when he is at his best he plays great you don't uh you sometimes don't know what's coming but i felt like those those two periods really i feel like solidified i hope solidified and we'll find out tomorrow night him in that spot and feeling good

And of course, you know, the crowd's going to be behind him tomorrow night. Tavares got the series winner against Tampa. Samsonov was the only reason that game was in overtime. There you go. I wanted to talk about one more thing, too. And this happened pregame, which is William Nylander taking warm up, not taking warm ups, but, you know, being on with the extra skaters and doing drills, but not being a part of line rushes.

And TSN's Jeff O'Neill went in on him and said, why are you why are you doing this? If you can't play, why are you getting dressed? Because that's a very hockey player thing, which is like, why are you even practicing if you can't? If you're so hurt, you shouldn't even be doing that. If you're good enough to participate in practice, then you should be playing in the playoffs. That's his opinion.

Oftentimes, and Steve made a really good point on the stream last night, oftentimes members of the media will say stuff when they know stuff, but they can't say what they know. so they'll say something that hints at what they know here i'll give you a behind the scenes story i probably shouldn't tell this but i don't give a shit um we when i worked at leafs tv and i did the highlights um we got the backhaul feed um which means the broadcasters everything they're saying behind the scenes we can hear and there were some people who understood that and there

were other people who did not give a shit that other people were listening to and there was a a game it was like a nothing regular season game um i think the leafs goalies were i want to say jaguar and gustafson i can't remember ron wilson announced one starter the other starter was the starter or the other goalie was the starter so he lied he likes he said this guy's gonna be the starter and he pulled the rug and it was it was a strategic decision he lied to trick the other team pierre mcguire loses his mind on the back hall feed he thinks he's so fucking smart and he was not happy about it and i'm sitting there i'm like like years later i'm like but you were an nhl coach why don't you appreciate gamesmanship from another coach

right so jeff o'neill in that situation and i and i love odog but i think he was thinking too much like a broadcaster and not enough like a former player like you know it's frustrating as a broadcaster having no idea what's going on with kneelander totally agree it's annoying and as a fan it's annoying um it's annoying it's annoying and confusing as a former player why is he practicing he's trying to play like I know he didn't but like he might have and like it screws the Bruins up they don't know what's going on but I don't I don't think it was the Leafs playing possum I I think it was Willie getting out there and all right let's see how I feel today maybe I'll play tonight and at the end of practice he decides all right I'm not gonna go yeah no I felt

the exact same way I thought those comments are they I don't know where they come from like what's the underlying opinion your your theory that he's thinking like a broadcaster makes so much sense you know it's like he wants to see willie out there he wants to say okay if if you're good enough to go you should go and all that stuff and he wants the information and the way it's set up is they don't have to tell you and the leafs aren't telling anybody and they're confusing the bruins by having him look like maybe he could go you know and if you if he if they did what jeff said to do and you send him back to toronto then there's no gamesmanship there then the bruins know he can't play he's not in the country he can't play at least here there's like oh what do we

got a plan for could willie be out there you know so i don't i don't mind this at all i trust the leaf sports science team now you know staying in hotels traveling on a plane with who knows what injury i'm sure isn't comfortable but the team is obviously comfortable with it and i i don't think they would have brought him unless they thought he might have played yeah or and like if he's trying if he's out there just stretching out and seeing what he can do what's wrong with that i don't why must why must he do that in private well and it's weird that like i've seen photos of jeff o'neill from the stanley cup final looking like a raccoon with his two black eyes and like lord knows what other injuries he had right um you know guys he's played with i was

i'm i was surprised that a former player especially one who played in such a tough and brutal era uh uh had that opinion on this we also we don't know what he has so we can't judge like what do you play through it we don't know what it is i've heard we're not the leafs doctors i've heard people say what nylander is i've heard several people say what nylander's injury is with conviction and they've uh three it's three different injuries there you go which means at least two of you are wrong right and they believe they're right yeah yeah yeah no i hear that all the time oh it's definitely this and you go to the next guy no it's definitely this something completely different um and who knows if like jeff heard something he's like oh you could play

through that and that's not the right injury like who knows yeah i i don't know i'm not i'm not thrilled neil andrews out of the lineup but uh when he was skating yesterday i'm like hey maybe he'll go and maybe he'll go he looks he looked today because you can just film practice and post it on twitter he looked really stiff yeah and by the way look at his stats leading into the playoffs whatever happened feels like feels like it happened before game 81 or whatever they say it is uh like he he was he wasn't he was ice cold so this player glad you brought that up adam this player i'm gonna read off their final dozen games or so had 98 points this season no points one assist no points no points one assist no points no points no points one assist

no points one assist that's how he ended the season that i think that's 11 games no goal i'm gonna go out on a limb and say he's been hurt for a while right and maybe maybe they're better served with you know the guy who's most likely to come out is nick robertson and i think maybe they're better served to keep nick in the lineup i think they probably are like hey 100 of nick robertson is better than 50 of willie exactly and nick's look good by the way he gets yes he gets run over all the time yeah he leaves the team in giveaways in the two games which i don't like no yeah that's why they dude matthew nice getting fucked up per 60 oh my god a thousand getting your shit destroyed per 90 or whatever yeah holy i think it's because the

way he plays too he's always running so he's getting smashed and he's making a play though yeah he's making a play when he gets destroyed he did that a few times there might be a shelf life on that style of play but uh he was effective it to be fair i think it's a lot of the way his cardio we talk about that and that's because he hasn't played nhl hockey that style of play that he that he has right now i think is a lot from his college days it's where you used to be the fastest guy on the ice and when a puck goes in the corner matthew nye's like i can get there i'm gonna do it and he gets there and he does usually most of the time he gets the puck out or something like that but he then he also gets smashed i assume when he was playing in in michigan right

uh no no boston boston college bu was it not boston minnesota we got matthew yeah i don't um when he was in university minnesota minnesota it was minnesota there you go when he was in university at minnesota he could probably body anybody out there he's not afraid or he's faster than them and then you get to the nhl level these are grown men it's your first real season in the league and he's still getting smashed by these grown men uh i love uh these stories um remember justin bourne uh when he came on our show years and years and years of course yeah he i think that was shortly after you joined us and you know he's used to playing against college players because he played in college but there was this one guy in college who wasn't a college player

he was something else and his name was john scott and justin bourne told this story of john scott put a stick between his legs had a hand on either side and picked him up by the dick basically like just went picked them up stick between the legs like a seesaw like it's there is a jump there's a jump here and um if the leafs didn't have such a need at wing maybe nice would have played a little bit in the ahl this year yeah possible you know i mean he did have 35 points so it's pretty valuable i'm not saying he's bad i'm just saying you know what would have been better for his development well john scott at michigan tech had 101 penalty minutes in 0405 100 and 0304 82 in his final year uh no 506 and i don't think any of them were

fights because you wear a full cage in college so that's a shitload of penalties nhl the nhl n-a-h-l sorry uh 240 penalty minutes for the chicago freeze holy shit wow that's a lot of penalty minutes yes yes it is good lord john scott that's a different dude man that's a big boy yeah six eight adam do you still own the justin bourne memorial fan uh no the justin bourne memorial fan was uh justin was super hot and we i had a tower fan and i put it behind him to keep him cool because my my condo just baked in the summertime um and uh poor justin was just in there it's just sweating uh but that that fan is now gone yeah it was like a rotating fan and then it just stopped rotating one day and it started making noise and like every time you

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and what better way than with a delicious pret organic coffee starting with just one dollar all day every day now until december 31st you gotta try breakfast at a and w at participating a and w locations in ontario um yeah anyway uh so we talked about sam we talked about kneelander let's talk about the thing that's driving people absolutely bonkers this morning oh boy this was so funny i already know what you're gonna say it's mark stone oh mark nailed it coming back scoring the first goal having in a minute a key play in the defensive zone towards the end of the game where he's sliding and breaks up a play vegas wins hey

can i be a medical professional for a second sure spleen looked great well okay so you know like we did say hey it's a lacerated spleen but i do feel watching him play i'm like well they probably stretched the amount of time he needed to be out well right well okay so that's not the accusation that i'm seeing out there it should be that what people are saying is well did he have an enlarged spleen or a lacerated one because those are very different he had a lacerated spleen it was grade three um kelly mccormick gave all of the medical details about it because of how much people were talking about it that's a crazy thing to lie about i like yeah that's because they did it no no i know that's this is what i'm saying like uh my oh like

surely like listen if teams are complaining about it and they are investigate it there's a very easy way to find out if he has a lacerated spleen or not like go to a third party doctor or whatever but um i tend to take the side of people don't lie about uh the health of their organs yeah and the third party doctor thing is like i've talked about this before that's how this process goes they have to the nhl's doctors also when you go on ltir and it's this high profile and it's like vegas is doing this again the nhl doctors are involved in the process oh really so you have the vegas's doctors who are evaluating marston and saying hey you can play and all this and stuff but then the nhl's medical staff they look into the issues and they look at the medical documents

and they say yeah this isn't there's no shenanigans there and we're all good and kelly mccrimmon like i said walked everybody through this process in his press conference and yes could mark stone have probably played on saturday if the series started saturday yeah that's the game that's how this thing works yeah you stretch it till monday so we can play in the game but did he have a lacerated spleen that was a grade three lacerated spleen yes he did and it would the recovery time was like three to six months they were talking about that and did they rush them back did they get them ready for the playoffs of course they did but that's the game let me run you through some dates guys february 14th 2022 valentine's day what a lovely day mark stone long-term injury

reserve april 12th 2022 activated from long-term injury reserve that's the start of the playoffs they missed the playoffs yeah that doesn't okay they missed the playoffs well he was activated at the end of the season yeah february 11th 2023 so now we're a year ahead injured reserve february 20th 2023 long-term injury reserve april 18th 2023 and activated from lti during that time he had his second back surgery i'm just giving you the dates that's february 2nd 22nd 2024 injured reserve march 4th were you in the room jesse did you see the knife long-term injury reserve march 4th april 22nd activated from ltar so here's where i think we're missing the point because i think you guys make a good point he had his second back surgery maybe mark stone's just a fucking animal

and this is really impressive are we missing the point the fact that he has come back from back surgery and been effective the fact that he's come back from a lacerated spleen and scored in the first a minute 23 in when they're on the power play maybe mark stone's just really awesome there's a reason this man wears the c in vegas he is an animal you're very right about that the fact that he's coming back after these injuries he had not played a game with any of his lives with thomas hurdle like they acquired him while he was out yeah they go out there they look spectacular he pots a goal the dude's a beast um how do i say this again listen to burke's law recently brian burke's book he over his career i believe adam you read it as well so help me uh three times

he successfully sued for libel i think so yeah i believe yeah each time he's like listen i just want you to issue a retraction and make a donation to charity if a fan says well i don't believe his spleen was really whatever it's a fan it's okay you know if we're gonna police what every sports fan says it's gonna be a problem um although burke did successfully uh sue a fan for libel there are some people in hockey media talking wildly reckless about this injury uh to mark stone sue him you know how hard it is to win a libel case uh well pretty hard not that hard if you're brian burke and you have to prove that you lost money because of it and you cause you you that's not true yeah and you lost and you have to or loss damages damage reputation

damage reputation how is mark stone's reputation damaged everyone it's the vegas golden knights who's damaged and i don't think they're suing anybody because i don't think they care i'm just saying uh people are talking wild about i don't believe his spleen was hurt and vegas will be like great cool and believe whatever you want i don't care also i want the i'd like the nhl to investigate vegas once they're done investigating tampa you know what i haven't seen vegas do print a bunch of nanny boo boo fuck you we were 18 million over the cap shirts you know it's a jury and wear them during the cup parade yeah you know it's crazy about last year's uh cup run with uh the las vegas golden knights what no at no point during the entire cup run last year did they ice a team

that was over the cap oh wow actually yep oh that's cool yep what the fuck are you complaining about are you are you serious not one game was the roster on the ice over the eight the 83 uh 82 and a half million dollar limit where's jesse granger in the athletic everybody complaining about not research i will i will just yell into the void okay i will tweet it wasn't over the cap yeah yeah there's also 17 teams right now who finished their season with every all the bonuses are now added they are over the cap yeah better 17 of them uh good what's the problem sarah Cavalli said that at least six teams will carry $1 million or more in bonus overage going on in the cap.

Bonus overage? Yeah. I'm going to get to that later, but that's how, because of the flat cap, the teams are exploding. They really cannot do this. I thought Edmonton was going to nail it with the Connor Brown stuff and how they figured out their cap throughout the season,

but then they ended up in the overages anyways. So, whatever. So, really good game between Vegas and Dallas. Like, high scoring, but mean. but that's going to be a great series it's going to be just awesome and nobody will be surprised when either of those two two teams wins nope it's uh crime against hockey that it's in the first round it is it's wrong and this is why the division setup sucks but anyway um that's where vegas finished because everyone was hurt i know i know i just think it's stupid um now were they

um i watched the first 10 minutes of the kings and oilers game and i thought why you didn't watch the last 10 minutes of the kings oilers game uh yeah by the way the the knights and stars would have faced each other in the regular conference oh how would they yeah okay fair enough they finished eight dallas is one fair enough right you're right and you and you said it correctly they didn't finish in the second wild card because there's nothing wild about the wild card it's the eighth seed it's the mild card it's the you're lying to me stop lying to me thank you wild card would be ninth and tenth seed thank you um what the you're talking about edmonton la yes that that's crazy because that's the fifth seed and the seventh

seed that's a stupid stupid matchup yeah and los angeles i feel bad for because they're playing it's like the leafs going up against the bruins in the last decade they know what they did um Boy, watching the first period, I was like, Edmonton's going to kill these guys. They are so much better. And I know that LA scored four goals. I'm sorry. Do you know that there was over 1,000 hats on the ice for Zach Heim? 11.31 were the amount of hats that got thrown on the ice.

I'm surprised that's it. They're not 11.32. Edmonton was exploding. Exploding. so okay here's a question that i would like to ask you oilers kick the king's ass yeah game one game one there's a lot you gotta win you gotta win four yeah bruins kicked the leafs ass in game one what was the difference but aside from the fact you're a leaf fan what was the difference between how you felt about the leafs game one versus the king's game one uh or the ruins versus

Okay, so when I looked at the Kings game one, I thought that the Leafs and Bruins, when they were five on five, looked pretty even. Pretty close. Stupid mistake. When Edmonton is five on five with LA, Edmonton's the only team on the ice. They kill them.

They just kill them. And it's not even because LA's a bad team, because we know they're not. But I think that you look at just, they're overwhelming on offense. Overwhelming. They're so fast. They're so quick.

That first Zach Hyman goal, like you know the fans just obviously exploded and it just felt like oh my god it's already a dagger in the la kings and they they don't quit they don't give up they looked good at certain points but i mean producer nick what are we doing was at game one in vancouver and he was talking about the atmosphere in western canada i know edmonton and vancouver are the same but he was talking about how loud it is out west and he's like i don't even have a dog in the fight but i almost cried with vancouver like just the emotion yeah it was overwhelming for him and edmonton that goal horn is special too it is i really love it i would hate to play that g when they

shot gene principe midway through the leafs game and they're you know there's 30 000 people outside of the you know where the oilers are playing and the guy with the painted face and these kids and whatever i'm like and it's a beautiful day in edmonton it's really beautiful april weird yeah um like sunny and nice like not what you'd expect for edmonton in april yeah it's pretty it's so sad that in toronto like every real fan has been priced out like that's the way yeah free market works i guess people want to pay this much corporations want to pay this much for tickets that fans can't get that that sucks well i go to maple leaf square and there's several thousand fans there in the cold cheering for a team that's not in the building they're in front of

they're not there they're in boston yeah uh the leafs have lots of real fans just a lot of them Yeah, the atmosphere in Scotiabank isn't comparable to any atmosphere around the league. The city has also limited how many people can be out there because of safety concerns. And so people do kind of file in and around anyway. I checked it out yesterday. The Oilers built their arena to house that. And the Leafs were really the first team to do that, to have people out front. I used to go down for the 2013 series against Boston.

And I went down for three or four games and it was it was all the way back to the Rogers Center. Yeah, they used to be. Now it's like ticketed. You got to get a pass to do the tailgate thing. But you should just be like free. This this it's on the it's on the screen. Just show up. Everybody can just crowd on the street and they they have to get rid of all that, which I can see why they don't do that anymore.

Oh, I was there for the game seven loss meltdown. It was bad. Maddie has insight. Oh, Maddie, Mike, because you were there. Yeah. Well, oh, yeah. well i did the streeters but i was gonna say that like my friends and i since like i was in first year university have like always tried to go to the square and i think like two years ago there

was literally like again like what you guys said you had to like pre-register like you're waiting for tickets for a concert and it's just insane it's like there's literally like what adam said there's a maximum capacity and we tried to get uh like a reservation for like i think like three games last year and it never worked out like people are on that like they're going to taylor swift concert like it's yeah oh yeah like it's yeah it's still that same i got the email this morning from the leaf saying reserve your tailgate tickets i get those emails so are you part of what is it the blue nation whatever the email list yes i'm on the email list too and occasionally they're like hey you want to buy season's tickets and i'm like i sure do no it's not already got

already got by season tickets it's registered to get on the list to maybe buy i am on the list but i did it uh five years ago expecting that hopefully by year 20 maybe i can afford it that's unbelievable i'm putting it i'm putting it out there i'm dreaming um because you don't you don't want to be rich and then want the tickets because then you're totally screwed right how are you going to get them right you know so you got it when you're pre-rich you got to pre-register when you said you don't want to be rich i'm like that's not true oh you're not done yeah no i definitely would love to be rich um i want to talk about the carolina hurricanes game next and when people people gave me shit when i said that freddie anderson is of two two goaltenders

in the playoffs he's a tale of two cities he's either lights out unbelievable holy crap give that man the vesna right now game three boston 2018 or he's the worst goaltender you've ever seen like every other boston game so bad that you can't it's it's it's unfathomable that they even considered dressing him and i just want to say just looking at the shots last night the new york islanders had 12 shots last night total they scored three goals on their first nine that's a freddie anderson playoff game for me can i can i give you the craziest thing i've ever seen yeah please easiest stat line i've ever seen from tom galuti final shot attempts were 110 hurricanes 28 islanders i feel holy shit there's a bit of a talent gap there huh um i would like

to change my pick can't do that sorry holy shit uh wow tabo taravainen broke the broke the dead or the the zeros for uh carolina midway through the third but for me when things really changed was that seth jarvis shot he just he slung that thing like it was a lacrosse ball what it was crazy animal and then 1745 sebastian ajo one of the the the carolina sebastian ajo um there by the way the loser has to change their name that's right uh sebastian ajo you're now dave ajo seven so 1745 and i like this because numbers 1754 jordan martinuk scores and they take the lead and then of course gensel gets the uh the last one on the empty net the islanders before last night were 81 and oh when having a three goal lead in the playoffs what in their history of

the fridge in the history of the franchise i was gonna say like holy shit yeah they never and like they stopped playing it was it was an embarrassing effort for that from them and like all credit to the hurricanes for just keep piling it on but um they just stopped once they got this lead and it was like midway through the second and the third period was a disaster one actual shot on goal from them they just kind of went to a shell they couldn't do anything and it was embarrassing oh we traded Devontae whoa man holy what were the shots by period

they were I know they had one in the one in the third yeah he did okay yes yes that'd be tough by the way the penalty minutes in this game 83 to 43 what

that had to be the end of the game Matt Martin was doing a whole bunch of nonsense um they were they were so upset that they blew it oh man okay i know i know about the morgan riley ridley greg stuff i get it um after an empty netter cannot just be a free-for-all like are are any of those guys gonna get finder suspended for any of that no which means if you don't do what the islanders did you're not doing your job your job is to try to win a series and that includes uh hurting your opponent because it's allowed they're not going to call you for

it so like they got to start fining or suspending or this has been my fun idea for a few years having penalties that carry over in a playoff series it makes sense regular season you're like well why should another team get an advantage because okay fine but in a playoff series it's very naked what you're trying to do you're trying to get your pound of flesh ahead of game three yes yes the penalty should carry over but they're never going to do that so um punch away it's not a league so go ahead the carolina hurricanes in the series so far have 68.4 percent of the shot attempts in their two across their two games it seems low but it leads uh it leads any team for any series that's going on it's not it's a it's a mismatch if the islanders just don't capitalize

on their limited opportunities which they did early on and when you have a three goal lead you should be able to hold it and it should have been 82 and 0 in their their their franchise history and having a three goal lead but they they stopped playing hockey they almost had a perfect regular season's worth right oh it's crazy um the shots you're asking for seven four and one were the shots per period from the islanders throughout the game that is 12 total shots in the game Carolina, on the other hand, had 10, 12, and 17 for a total of 39. Jesse, bring up block shots if you can. Block shots.

Scroll down. Block shots. 36 block shots. By the Islanders. By the Islanders. To eight for the Hurricane. And they still allowed 40 shots. Just 36 of them were blocked on top of that.

Hurricanes. Oh, boy. Gave it away 11 times. That's crazy. But they had the puck. Well, fair enough. You got a lot of giveaways, 11 to 2, when you have the puck all the whole time.

To give you an idea of how much they had the damn puck, 11-2 disadvantage in giveaways, but they won the takeaways battle. 6-5. They just had the damn thing the whole time. They had 83 total penalty minutes. Adam, you mentioned that number, right? And then I think the third period alone,

the penalty minutes were 75. That's crazy. I love that. Hey, you know, the one place the Islanders did win is power play percentage. They had one power play, and they scored on it. That's way better than one for five for Carolina, so maybe that's what Islanders,

that's what they bring through the next the hurricanes more than tripled them in shots on goal and one of the islanders goals was on the power play that is i'm gonna tell me if i'm off base here a concern just a bit of a concern uh it was fun being able to turn off the least game and then watch this game because it was exceptional hockey and the two goals in nine seconds is like it's so backbreaking and demoralizing for the islanders you think you stole one in carolina there you're going back home ubs arena you're tied 1-1 empty net for the hurricanes all you gotta do is pot one put one in there which they kind of they had like a couple opportunities at it but not like the best shot um and then they score one with the empty net it's all tied you're

like okay i'm gonna get to overtime here they score just immediately after game over the the first round of the nhl playoffs so alive like i love everyone's buzzing from the game they just watch they tune in to the next one and they're like oh shit two goals in nine seconds it's just there's so much going when leafs win carolina comes back miraculously mark stone scores dude all that happened within like 20 minutes of tv time it was awesome i don't know if you saw on the stream but vegas drew goes in my ear he goes oh vegas has scored a minute in and i jokingly go oh who was it mark stone and a few seconds later he goes oh my god it was yeah um uh the leafs are the first non-home team to win in these playoffs unbelievable andrew peak by the way of the boston

ruins it's just been announced we is week to week and uh will not play in game three i did not see what happened to him i saw him leave the game i didn't either i thought i was surprised uh trevor moore had a like a almost took out the knees of vinnie darren a he's got to get suspended for that i don't i haven't seen anything from player safety about that that was brutal so oilers fans very long memory for this stuff and hard to deny they come out on the shitty end of a lot of player safety decisions they highlighted something from the oilers jet series which was vicious um where someone on the oilers i can't remember who took out the knees of one of the jets and like they're near identical plays and it was one game so well if there isn't anything um what's going to happen

is is somebody on the oilers likely a cory perry um or an evander kane is gonna is going to take trevor moore and uh crush him like he's they're gonna do something to him because if the league won't the players will i i mean it's pretty obvious what's going on here it was vinny day harney being hit by a guy half his size uh someone takes out the knees of connor mcdavid we may never see them again yeah yeah um uh i want to talk about tonight's games because we didn't really get the chance to sort of break them down on the previous uh you know because we you know we we've been kind of aligned with the leafs here but um majority of them hadn't played yet that's right so we had we had uh um obviously the lightning in the panthers game which is this a changing

of the guard in florida officially i mean i know it was in that game no but they were but but But Florida outshot them by 10. Yeah, but they were in that game. Game one. Game one? Okay. I saw Tampa get their ass kicked in 22, and then they lost. Or, rather, won. Okay.

So, game one. They also have, like, tremendous fight in them, even when they scored with the empty net to get within a goal with some, like, 20 seconds left or whatever. Like, I don't think Tampa's just giving up. Rangers caps. Fun. It's going the way everybody thought,

except i again it's game one but i feel like maybe i shouldn't maybe this is the 4-0 series it's still really hard to do that yeah like i've seen some lopsided series go at least five um it's just difficult to envision the capitals winning the series it was the i think the worst officiated game so far in these playoffs um on both sides both teams got away with some egregious hits and some things that were called i don't think you should call them uh it was the matt rempy show like yeah him scoring right off the bat well uh well he took a penalty to start the game it was they called it charging two minutes for larging it's charging like if anything i think it's boarding because the guy's up against the boards you shove him into the boards but i don't

think it's charging um awful penalty and like that's the thing you worry about with the tough guys you know you throw him down goes brown like that's in his like playoff manifestos this tough guy who's like gonna be an x factor in the series takes an early penalty yeah it happened immediately with matt rempe but they kill the penalty they make up for it he scores the first goal for the for the rangers and they go on to dominate the rest of the way second career nhl goal i believe wow was it only two yeah one goal in 17 games so he's now got as many playoff goals as regular season goals yeah so a huge performance from him and like he's i think he's like the biggest star in new york right now dude they were cheering every time he was on the ice there was one there

was a play i was watching that game there was a play where he was literally just the four checker didn't have the puck he was just attacking and everyone's like yeah like there's still it's something so funny in one of the most iconic like sports facilities in the world and uh we haven't evolved over the last 2 000 years it's still just thousands of people going yeah big guy big guy big guy big guy stuff let's go guy who averages between five and seven minutes a game too he played eight oh it felt like he was out there like if you're watching the game it feels like every time matt rempey's on the ice it's like a moment he was only out there for like eight i think it's 833 he played dude like reeves had those

moments with the leafs like he had them last night and and monday well yeah but like i'm talking just like well on home ice especially you hear this like rempy was where it's like he didn't even really do anything but everyone's just like yeah and like madison square garden rempy's got them wrapped around his well i was gonna say little finger but nothing about him's little cj was saying that domey has become the big villain in boston they're booing him every time he touches the pot great you'll have to see it um there was a there's a nice little sauce not as good as Domi's by Zabinijad to Kreider to close it out.

They looked really good that first game. Oh, yeah. Ovi had zero shots on goal, which is the last time he did it was during the 2018 run. Wow. So good omen. Kreider, now the all-time leader in Rangers playoff

goals, which is bananas. That's crazy for a franchise that old. He's been around so long. That's going to be one of those careers that's going to be weird if he doesn't win a cup. it feels weirder than Lundqvist no because Lundqvist at least went to the finals I don't know if Kreider did he did okay but uh like just such a great playoff performer just such a good player um maybe add Panarin to the mix too oh and then you look at some of the teams he's been on

and the performances he's had might be the year and then last last note from the game because The Leafs connection. Jimmy Vesey, first star of the game. Goal and an assist. He looked really good. Playoff Vesey came alive. I think he was kind of vanilla, actually. He does not look vanilla in New York.

It's so weird going back and looking at the box score for the Avs-Winnipeg Jets game. Six goals in the first. One goal in the second. Six goals in the third. And the great thing is that in the six goal periods, they're dead even. 3-3.

it's it's Lowry's goal in the second period that really makes the difference whatever um vitamin c b12 whatever you got to give juice to Xanadu to give him to get him healthy enough to play in this series give it to him get all of it to him they don't have an NHL goaltender they don't and Colorado had almost 50 shots guys and to Winnipeg's 23 yeah that's not okay that's not okay this is why i said dude last year akira schmidt beat the rangers yeah that shouldn't have happened and akira schmidt bounced out of the league pretty quickly this year the earlier you get another guy into the series i mean you give george george you have one more game no no if and if uh ananin's available he's not though yeah that's what you're looking at prosvitov you can't play a guy who

can't play in the nhl and they had home as the backup for game one i'm like who is this person yeah i i had heard of them i don't know how they got him no i don't remember any of that i think like it's it's over for him forever in uh in colorado if anybody's healthy but i don't know i don't think you can be like well it's prospheta of time maybe why not because jesse what's your favorite thing about ivan profs for profits his name that guy's yeah there you go there you go they are their point of uh hard to pronounce goalie names home nah oh georgia georgia and then yeah you know what prosvatov no those three i was going with no you're spinning yeah no that's fair no the if ananin is good to go for game i'm gonna be

silly here and say game three you gotta go to them and that's basically your only shot i'm looking at the uh okay so i mean you outplayed the dog shit out of the jets on their home ice yeah there's got to be something to feel good about so georgiev 302 goals against average 897 save percentage in 63 games prostatov 316 895 and then 225 928 and he only played 14 games but he was good he's been decent he was good oh boy the second he's well enough to do so you gotta play him two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th join thousands in toronto for the princess margaret cancer

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a little bit more exciting it would you know i thought lynn holmes goal in the second period was cool but really for the fans what was what was awesome is that like they've had this storybook year and my whole thing was like i don't want you to have to wake up from it because i know what it's like as a leaf fan to be absolute dog shit the year before and then surprise everybody make the playoffs and and they won the division yeah and and then to lose game one would have been just air out of the balloon and the Leafs were so good at letting the air out of the balloon I was so thrilled when Suter uh and Dakota Joshua got two when they when Suter tied it up it was like okay we're in this and that third period it Nashville had really forced Vancouver to play

their game low shots like I think that yeah the total shots all night 22 for Nashville 21 for Vancouver that's a Nashville game but in the third period uh Vancouver figured it out and I hope that they continue to figure it out and put this away quickly. You know what it reminds me of a little bit and again it was in the bubble so a lot of people forget Blue Jackets beat the Leafs in their qualifying round

Tampa falls wherever they do as the division winner Columbus plays Tampa for the second consecutive year. What happened the previous year? Columbus swept the President's Trophy winning lightning. What happens game one of the bubble series? Do you remember?

No Five overtimes. Oh. Five overtimes. It was an eight-period game. Corpozalo made over 70 saves in a loss. And the way CJ talks about that is if the Blue Jackets win that game, I think Tampa ended up sweeping them,

but if the Blue Jackets win that game, who knows? If Nashville wins game one, like just because of the vibes, just the the the doubt you get swept you lose that game one tampa may never win that 2020 cup if vancouver loses this game one on home ice after all that anticipation in my eyes their chances of winning that series plummets into the earth's crust but they won it so maybe they ride the rocket what did you think of quinn hughes's defensive play adam i thought it was spectacular jesse oh yeah it actually was great uh uh he was it was better it was better it was no look better than your you think of his play of recent i think that that he has i he's been accused by certain

people of being soft in his own end but i thought that he was he wasn't very very good no no he wasn't and you know the thing about quinn hughes is he doesn't have to be hard because he's so fast it doesn't matter uh what the one thing i loved about vancouver's game and this is what drives me bonkers about the freaking Leafs. And I've talked about this forever. Vancouver breaks out quickly. It's bang, bang, bang, gone. Other end. When they set up for a power play, again, one, two, three in the offensive zone. The Leafs are like, let me back pass it. Oh, are you coming on the ice? Let me give you some puck time. I'm going to back pass it. I'm going to let the other team get set up and then we'll figure it out. Vancouver knew with Nashville being a very strong

defensive team that they can't let them get set up. If you let them get set up, Nashville is going to clog the neutral zone and i thought that's what they were trying to do going into the third period going up one vancouver just didn't let it happen now i was really really uh i thought rick tockett had them ready to go the fans were nuts it was great and nick almost cried nick andrade almost cried uh i want to give a shout out to the game's number one star the 128th overall pick of the 2014 draft dakota joshua traded for nothing by two different teams uh traded from the toronto maple leafs to the st louis blues for future considerations and i thought he was traded to the canucks but apparently the blues just let him walk

and here he is breaking out basically in uh almost 10 years after he was drafted almost 10 years he had a good season last year with 11 goals this i i love this era of the nhl i feel like we're seeing this more and more where guys who would be career ahl or european guys are sticking around and all of a sudden making the nhl in like like how old is this guy he's gonna be 28 in may yep it's all about austin matthews yeah yeah he was drafted two years before austin matthews yeah this was the william neil andrew this is who went first over oh aaron eckblad went first who's like a grizzled vet that's been around forever like i'm trying to like did anyone drafted after dakota joshua have like an interesting career the best player i've

found so far is anders bjork uh nolan vc the less famous brother of jimmy sammy play oh there you go victor olufsen of the sabers there's one oh oh my goodness damn the leafs drafted so well in 2014 pierre engvall hey the leaves got the leaves got bloody dakota joshua in the fifth round and pierre engvall in the seventh and angval was the guy they wanted to hang on to fumbled it yeah angval who had an assist uh i think he did because the hurricanes yeah ang vegas baby yeah yeah dakota joshua uh six foot three 206 pounds who wants that you know how's mckay f he's you know what apparently playing pretty not a bad fourth line not a bad fourth line with teddy bluger i was like okay

i'm impressed if you got mckay f listen i'm sure it's not ideal that they're playing if they're paying a fourth liner that kind of money adam but you did it wrong what every time you say teddy bluger you have to say his you say place of birth teddy bluger from regal latvia uh and phil d giuseppe oh who did get a bad penalty uh and i thought rick talking i'm like rick talk it's gonna sit this guy for a period and because it was such a bad penalty and he didn't put him out there and d giuseppe had a really good uh game after what was your favorite part of the stream favorite part of the stream yeah favorite favorite chat favorite chat well we had we had lots of talks we did a little uh history corner in the first intermission on what uh we did it on george

vancouver the guy who found vancouver and uh took it away there is a man george vancouver who existed whose name is george vancouver that's right made that up that sounds like a bit it's a real guy by the way as long as we're sticking to names i i thought do you know no no trust me hey i know that was funny but what about this trust me trust me i trust you i thought phil di giuseppe was an alan wallace client uh-huh i don't know who i'm thinking of phil di giuseppe his agent is paul capizano oh there you go keep it in the family for the most italian shit i've ever heard in my entire life they all go to bada bing and they go to bada bings and they've never even heard of george vancouver yes that's right never even heard of them came in and took vancouver and uh that

area like vancouver seattle area the whole place well you know they would just put a flag flag in the earth and be like this is ours now and they took it from the spanish that's right people forget this the spanish empire went all as high as vancouver at one point and they had to sail all the way yeah oh yeah could have been speaking espanol in vancouver but no george vancouver went as far as uh hawaii as well and traded with the populations there and he changed his name what do you mean oh he could have been like frankie hawaii or something no he named vancouver islands no they it wasn't named vancouver island and he was like hey i found this now i'm naming myself after it it was oh so he's not you're not george hawaii no no he's not george hawaii

How did he get to Hawaii? Boat? Boat. In the age of sail. Was he surprised when he discovered George Street? In Vancouver. Isn't there a George Street in Vancouver? I don't know.

Oh, no, wait. That's Newfoundland. Wrong coast. That's Newfoundland. I got confused places I've drank. What year is this? 1792. And he boated.

Sailed. Yeah. He boated. Don't interrupt, Jesse. From Vancouver to Hawaii and lived. Yes. That's crazy. Yes.

that is actually not like that's that's insane they um um they it used to be if you were on voyages that long uh that there wouldn't be enough vitamin c on board and you'd get scurvy so um i know it's because of tiktok what they used to do was they would have the thing that would the thing that would give you vitamin uh vitamin d is is limes so they would drink lime juice and that would be or vitamin c excuse me and that would how you that would be how you prevented scurvy but the water would go bad yeah well the lime preserved it also the rum that they put in the water yes that too so it was water rum and lime that's right and so that's why america that sounds like a great drink british limeys they used to call them limeys because that's that's

how they kept their teeth in their skull i know that uh because uh there's a story in my book that is not hockey or zoo related of i don't remember that the uh because my uh grandpa was in a battle in the war and yada yada yada he got wounded and he was discovered by americans and they go we got a limey oh okay and then uh they tried to um fix up his wound and he misunderstood them he thought they said we're gonna cut off his leg and so he started to fist fight all the people who were trying to help him and they said no you idiot we're gonna cut off your pants and he went oh okay it's good to know where the passion comes from yeah oh yeah so then george vancouver goes to hawaii and regardless of if there's people there or not yeah he gets to claim it no because hawaii

was never fully claimed until the americans did later it was so he didn't say this he didn't claim it i don't believe like i don't think it was ever a british possession okay they showed up they did some trading but i don't think i think they were looking for like um is that a thing brits did it like um taking over stuff yeah a lot of that i think it's just they shouldn't of hot take a little hot take a little uh i don't think history should have went where you could just go find land where people might still be living and be like this is ours yeah we've claimed this for the king i'm gonna go next door you guys agree right i'm gonna say this house is mine they'll be like i live here like no i discovered it that's right this for the king pause who's the

king who's that what is that yeah just sign your name here it'll all be fine um pause what is this it's a pen okay no how does that work yeah no why are you dipping that feather in that black liquid that's what it would have been right yeah i'm gonna need you to start it who the fuck what is going on yeah oh yeah yeah yeah so anyway we did a little history corner on that and uh did we yeah i don't see i don't i can't narrate the games like steve does because steve like you almost do play by play sometimes so good i'm so good so i don't do that so i so i sit there and i chat so we just have a chat no no it's good it is good i think it would be shitty if uh the two of us did identical streams well i can't be you i'm me well you're not the same people i think that'd be weird as

that it would be weird if i was out there trying to be steve trying to get all passionate like people see right through that i'm just gonna be like you know what i'm cheering for vancouver in this series nashville evil one of the most likable cities one of the most likable teams this year no evil screw them go vancouver uh and uh it's actually been really fun and it's it is kind of weird being in here at like 1 a.m though wait more like snot chicken because that's what it tastes like snot chicken yeah instead of hot chicken oh hey okay let's do uh bodied uh let's do a quick i just want to tell you that there are these the sabers are bringing back lindy ruff um because what's old is new again i don't know i don't know how i was trying to think about it

this morning i'm like how does his style fit what they want i don't know i don't know lindy ruff looked like he was uh way above his head in new jersey the last year and that's the guy you want to bring in to revamp your team like it didn't make sense to me i am gonna get a huge kick out of lindy ruff riding what could be another generational goalie to being in buffalo for another 10 years someone said and because he played for the sabers as well lindy ruff has been an employee of the buffalo sabers for every decade they've existed wow hockey team that's cool he was a player for them in i think the 70s and 80s he coached them in the 90s and in the 2000s 2010s and now the 2020s yeah he might be the like the longest tenured employee if you

cumulative yes absolutely he should just that he should be the logo yeah um so that frank Cervalli has a story today in Daily Faceoff of the 13 teams that are impacted for overage. And as I told you, six of them is over a million. The hot topics now. Let's go over the cap overages. The overages are kind of nuts.

Oh, yeah. Real nuts, Adam. Tell us $3 million over. Carolina's $50 grand. What is this all about? It's just a huge, spicy topic. Let's go to the cap overages for next season. Carolina is

50 grand over uh florida could be fifty five hundred thousand dollars over if uh they make it to the stanley cup final because kyle akpozo gets a bonus a stanley cup final bonus you hear that that's crazy yeah there you go bruins 50 grand over uh flyers quarter million minnesota four point or 425 000 rangers half a million ottawa 850 000 that sucks well they were really good though um montreal a million dollars over what new jersey 1.5 million dollars over oh los angeles 1.8 million dollars over washington 2.25 million dollars over dallas 2.595 and the edmonton oilers are as of now i believe three and a half million over but cory perry can earn an additional 50 grand for advancing to the conference final and the stanley cup final so it could be 100 grand

more what this means for edmonton is the cap goes up for everybody next year except for them oh because you know it's going to go up three and a half four million bucks edmonton has spent that but if they win the cup who cares good topic unfortunate jesse didn't care yeah i don't know why he doesn't care i think that's interesting what do you want me to say about it the amount of bad teams who are a million a million bucks in the hole for next year is i think interesting like all right montreal ottawa new jersey i don't know what i do with this i don't know what i do with this information i just thought it was interesting i guess it's in what way i think it's interesting because defend your topic choice adam i think it's very interesting because it goes

to show that the the nhl is raising the salary cap right around the time it actually starts to hurt the teams doesn't matter that hurt the players right but now they're like oh well this is impacting the team we better we better bring it up and by the way the hrr the hockey related revenue that they use to calculate the cap has not been calculated fully for 2022 yet i feel how painful this is so we don't know i actually feel it radiating well i think it matters i think it matters how much your team can spend no the cap is my point is the cap probably be going up more next year so i know everyone doesn't matter oh it does it actually doesn't vegas vegas tampa vegas i don't know why i'm making that war to varus all right well let's do the

press conference then we have time to oh fine we had to end the show yeah you know what fuck it i thought it was interesting okay uh no because i saw that this morning the reason i'm pooping on it is because i saw that and i was like you know it's the middle of playoffs like i'm not it's round one of the playoffs i'm gonna read this thing on capoverages i guess i'll check it out but i was like there's so much playoffs narratives i'm jacked up on that i don't want to read about cap shenanigans okay so that's why that's where that opinion fair enough fair enough anyways all right you guys ready we're gonna wrap it up we're gonna record vip next get ready you're not done yet steve you're not fucking done yet we didn't do uh morello and betman no i i we didn't

have time. We didn't have time. We had to do cap overages. We had to do cap overages. We had to. Had to. SDP. The Steve Dangle Podcast. Follow the guys on Twitter at Steve underscore

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