The Steve Dangle Podcast - Back to School | September 6, 2022

Episode Date: September 6, 2022

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, we're hiring and Julian is off to Calgary! (00:00), the Calgary Flames sign Nazem Kadri (10:30), the JBSR's NFL preview (49:00), the Canucks give J.T Miller a shiny new contract (59:00), the Sabres give Tage Thompson a shiny new contract (1:03:00), the Jets are celebrate former Coyotes (1:07:00), and Steve made a big move this summer! (1:25:00). Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/U5J0M9A_ak0 Originally aired: September 6, 2022 Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://help.sportsinteraction.com/hc/en-us/articles/216779528-Responsible-Gaming-Self-Limitation-Self-Exclusion Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Ontario Only. Must be 19+ or older to play. Visit this episode's sponsors: Get 20% off + free shipping with the code DANGLE at https://Manscaped.com/. That’s 20% off + free shipping with the code DANGLE at manscaped.com. It’s time to get wet and clean with your new MANSCAPED™ Shower Routine." https://sportsinteraction.com/sdpn https://trueclassic.com/ CODE: DANGLE https://betterhelp.com/sdp Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hooray! It's been great. It's been great. It's been great. Good long kind of summer break Which I think was definitely needed I did it properly What'd you do?

Like I didn't obsess over hockey the whole time Did you not? No That's great See I actually wasn't on Twitter very much So did you You did it properly too So did this guy

I think we all did it properly I think we all did Well I'm highlighting that Because I never do Do you feel like he's lying to us Jesse? I feel like this is going somewhere I saw you make a video about Rasmus Sandin Yeah that was like a couple days ago

That's fine Okay, that was in the middle of August. But you actually didn't obsess about hockey? No. No, I don't suck. Did he? I don't know, you tell me. You watched his Twitter, I don't know.

I was fine. A lot of people were like, oh, this Sandin saga, and I'm like, ah, you know, you might side, you might not. I feel like there's a little bit of stress in your voice. No. You can't be worried about it. No, I'm not. Did you obsess about hockey?

I don't know. How many Auston Matthews goal comps did you watch on vacation? Only a couple. i wish i could tell you none but only a couple okay and then someone today was like uh i i think uh i i think they're actually waiting for the birth of a child so they're like oh i have some time to kill in the hospital today what are some leaf games that that i should re-watch like highlights from leaf games and i was like oh well there's this one there's also this one and this one and this one and this one and then i just went down the rabbit hole and i was i basically

listed every game for the last five years it was great i'm glad did you actually take a break no i don't you did you take a break i took a break i took a break all right now before we get into anything it's just it's just come down um that uh network stalwart and uh host of the cj show he's a goalie um julian mckenzie is off to calgary to be the beat reporter for the athletic which we love athletic great organization julian great guy calgary great city good fit it's gonna be awesome but now who's gonna host the cj show julian from calgary that's great isn't that crazy that remote learning thing that we have going on here it's good it's over it's over well that's what i hear everyone is going back to school and today is the speeding ticket

harvest yes it is yeah somebody was already caught in a school zone going 100 into 30 uh here in toronto a 30 100 100 kilometers an hour in a 30 why was that the part that i highlighted i don't know why that was the one you highlighted the 30 was too low yeah no it's that the 100 is far too high julian just keeps moving up so quickly yes this guy gonna stop i'm glad he finally got a break yeah yeah he's done nothing well what a just a lazy guy this doesn't work hard i'm so happy for him because like i know like he's talked about it openly on the cj show how much he desires just to cover the team uh day-to-day be in the press uh press box and he gets that with calgary it's a huge step very proud of you and like cj when he goes out there

we know what happens with cj and calgary takes a couple edibles takes drugs yeah and then he goes pee chris johnston takes drugs i'm worried about the in-person show that'll happen in calgary oh i can't wait cj is gonna be high out of his mind i need to be there i don't know if i hope the bar is still up enough to call my friends at hudson's maybe we can uh connect the two and have a live show in calgary with cj and julian is that where you brought me that's where i brought you i don't remember it well so i assume it was great it was hudson's it's a bar and then it turns into a club and it was really fun back in the day really really fun i just haven't been there in 10 years me in the club he did really you can see why he got married early

for anybody listening steve's dancing skills aren't great no they're fantastic i found one i'm gonna lock it down there and then i did so i think uh 26 it's not i know i'm just giving you a hard time you found her long before that i mean yeah yeah you met her in 19 uh now uh let me just throw this at you uh we have another announcement uh we are adding to the network and we're hoping that you'll join us uh as you know last year we had a little experiment with something called game over montreal which was an idea that andrew during the stanley cup finals when the montreal canadians that's right the montreal canadians were in the stanley cup finals he said you know what so we're not nobody's capitalizing on the fact that that they're in the stanley cup finals we

should be owning this that was like 13 months ago i know i know i know it's that's what's so crazy and then he's like he's like so how do you feel about you know maybe doing like a post-game show on your youtube channel because we weren't a network yet no and uh and i said i think that's a great idea andrew and so we they did great went back and forth with a bunch of ideas the canadians were so good this year they followed up that stanley cup with a season they didn't have to call up any echl players no no not at all uh and uh andrew despite all that despite probably the worst season in montreal history i think it actually was yeah uh statistically uh andrew fought through that and did a really compelling set of of uh and julian by the way

filled in as well a few times um compelling set of podcasts that are specifically for montreal canadians fans and then the playoffs we thought we'll try to launch a few more so we launched Game over Toronto, game over Calgary Didn't quite work out with Edmonton in the playoffs But we'll get to that And we had Harnish and Armand that we found at a Hamilton Who were amazing, great duo

We had Audie And Peter, Audie James, Peter Klein Rahaf doing all the losses Yes, Rahaf did, poor Rahaf did Every relief's loss, like it wasn't even fair And Those did really, really well And it seemed like they were really well received

So we thought this year part of the whole thing here is we want to build and give people the opportunity to to to try hosting um so we are going to launch game over in every single canadian city this year yeah that's ottawa we're bringing back toronto that's the winnipeg uh winnipeg jets uh edmonton calgary and vancouver and if you go to sdpn.ca right now slash careers slash careers sdpn.ca uh uh dot store um you can check every uh every single posting out now obviously if you're a fan of of a team let's say you're a leaf fan but you live in vancouver well that's okay that's fine that's totally fine um if you're worried about there's a few people that that

reached out and said listen i didn't want to apply because i wasn't sure i could do every game well we're doing teams of people so you'll actually have the opportunity to split hosting duties with other people uh when you sign up for this and uh and obviously um you know that that kind of takes the pressure off where you're like okay well i don't have to do 82 games yeah yeah for whatever on top of whatever else you're doing in your life and we're very excited about this um and so we're looking for hosts it is a paid gig um and so if you check it out sdpn.ca careers um you can sign up obviously we need to like a bit of a demo we're going to need to see you on camera it doesn't have to be um you know a lot of people sent us their streams and

stuff last time that can work whatever it is we just want to know what you taught what you talk like that's it that's it that's it anything else jesse we have anything that all the info is there if you go and you check out the uh the uh job application like it should be pretty straightforward we're accepting applications until september 30th but if we don't find the right candidate we will like just extend that you know keep going and find the right person we'd like to start for the beginning of the season yeah our goal is to launch for uh game one with all these markets but yeah so we've set the deadline date till september 30th and we might do some warm-up shows and stuff during pre-season that won't actually make the air so you won't actually we're not just gonna throw you on

the air and be like good luck see ya yeah like we're gonna actually kind of ease you into this this will be fun we're trying to give you your gateway to the industry like if you want to do hosting if you want to be in the media world this could be your opening yeah so we're gonna pay you with expo no no we're paying you with money pay you with real money financial canadian dollars i remember when we did audie's interview he it was lunch break and he was um i believe he was on site like i think he his job he works on construction sites today yeah so he like got into his car and facetimed us and that was his interview and then he went back out back out to work and now he's working at the nation's network as well doing some writing for them so really

happy for audie and happy to have peter back and everybody's back so it's kind of it's kind of a cool thing yes we are still looking for um toronto as well like just just so you know to the team in toronto yeah it's not going to just be the people that we already have and and so we're excited to meet you and have you on board yeah we'll see where this goes i don't know kind of and if we don't hire you it's because andrew berkshire hates you oh yeah remember that personally he hates you as a person and doesn't like your team but and and if i can incentivize you applying when you tell me what you did this summer, I'll believe you.

Why are you looking at me like that? I don't know. It's hard. Okay, listen, Steve, you have to understand, it's kind of hard to believe that you would not be, you know, exclusively focused on hockey at all times. I was focusing on my little meal ticket. Leo and his developing were a shot.

It's really good. I've got to tell you. Who's going to take care of you? Hollywood kid. Yeah. is that going to be leo what is that from family guy oh yeah peter peter has this whole and we won't get into it it's really inappropriate um it's a popular show um so listen uh we're really super pumped about game over we're super proud of julian let's get into some hockey news some

of the stuff we missed this summer starting with the guy that everybody was waiting on nazem khadri seven years 49 million dollars includes an 11 million dollar signing bonus 49 million guaranteed annual average salary of 7 million um he'll earn a base of four and a half million with the signing bonus of two and a half uh this year while carrying a cap hit of seven million bucks as uh obviously as it happens but his base is going to be his cap hit from last year yeah not bad how bad yeah so he already signed so the day he signed he gets 11 million hilarious and then he gets a signing bonus is that added on to it's not like it's 11 million and i guess two like is 11 million not the signing book 11 million is the signing bonus but he also gets a

signing bonus of two oh i guess he gets 2.5 million dollars just next yeah no uh in the total of his contract 11 million of his contract is being paid out in signing bonus so it's 2.5 2.5 not all at once 1 million than zero zero yes he's doing quite well every summer drinks on nas or he makes you split the bill like lebron james in that amy schumer movie well let's talk about this for a second that i choose to think is a bill hater movie let's talk let's talk about the i love bill hater um let's talk about the calgary flames for a second yes are the calgary flames better or worse than they were last year well uh i'm gonna go ahead and say they're at at least as good if not better i'm gonna lean towards better okay why do you say that i just feel

like they're a little bit more balanced their decor i mean oh who's got a better one the list of teams isn't longer than five maybe yeah like there are teams where i'd be like okay maybe them maybe them maybe them they're all maybes and there's less than a half a dozen of them um Um, really all they need to pick it up is, uh, Markstrom who was a Vestman candidate, like in the conversation, they just need him to not be utterly terrible against their biggest rival. That's it. That's all he's got to do, man.

Right. That's all he's got to do. He was outdueled by Jake Ottinger in the Dallas series, but everyone would have been Ottinger was out of his mind, but he couldn't even outduel Mike Smith in that battle of alberta series and both goalies were terrible just terrible yeah um so i i think i think they have a more daryl sutter identity if that makes sense if i could say something about brad tree living for a second when you when you saw that uh johnny gaudreau had signed in columbus and everybody we talked about this a lot it was like columbus over calgary over philly over new jersey

over anywhere else he could have gone um and then and but but again people do make the comparison columbus or calgary uh and then matthew kachuk says i'm not signing here yeah so you're gonna have to move me and i think you know that was probably always sort of coming but had gaudreau stuck around you think kachuk maybe would have as well that was years in the making it was it would seem like it was coming um and we'd heard rumors about that but you hear that all the time where players are like this guy intends to force his way out in several years and you're like sure we'll see he signs an enormous extension yeah because he's like ah it's actually not so bad here and they like me does he fit the window jt miller yes yes he does apparently we'll talk about

that too um brad tree living did calgary calgary tourism a huge disservice and then a huge service oh yeah gaudreau and kachuk leaving you know we talk about players not wanting to come to canada did did everybody not a little bit think what the hell's wrong in calgary for a minute oh two american olympians as well like oh yeah i feel like we didn't talk about that enough but you're right yeah like those are two of the best american wingers like certainly guys who would have made the american olympic team had there been an olympics where nhl players uh were allowed to go um high profile american players it just feeds into that narrative right and i for a long time have been saying that the safest job in canada is general manager of an nhl team and brad

living i believe once mark bergevin left montreal was the longest tenured one he's got to be close to a decade he's i want to say 2014 2014 april 28th well done there you go was he not part of that era even before that he was under Burke yeah he was he was under Burke and he had a good start you know the cardiac kids and that all they did was come back and I think it was 2015 and Johnny Kudrow was young and Brady Brady

Kachuk Matthew Kachuk was just a twinkle in their eye hadn't even been drafted yet but time went on and the flames continued to do nothing nothing and in one offseason he went from disaster to hero and i think he bought himself some significant time unless the team completely sucks which i mean that's but even if even if that happens you can't blame him for anything like at this moment for trying at this moment we should all be giving him high fives and praise because he didn't turtle his two biggest stars left and he said

no our window is now and i'm gonna go replace them and this is what we should be asking out of all of our gms is you have an opportunity to win go get the players that'll make you win and he did exactly that and he he provided answers um what what the hell are the flames gonna do now that johnny gaudreau's gone and kachuk wants out he makes the trade oh well what what happens when huberto uh walks in a year he's not walking they go for one meal in montreal and then he signs an extension one meal one meal at a boston pizza i assume was alan there because definitely because the tree living zone boston pizza you see because canada humor adam do you know if alan was there his agent i don't believe alan was at that dinner i don't believe alan was at that dinner i think

that was just between the two of them i don't believe that for a second i don't think he was i can ask i don't believe we'll ask him the agent provocateur will be back we can ask there you go But I don't believe he was there. Why don't you do some work? Why don't you get to work? I was trying to let Alan have his summer as well. Why doesn't he get to work? Alan's been busy.

Yeah, he has. He really has. Like every one of his clients moved. Every stinking one. He's had a very busy summer. Yeah. But yeah, Huberto staying. If Uyghur leaves, I assume that would hurt.

But are Flames fans going to be too salty about it? I don't think so. I don't think so. And there's still time for that. I also think you've got Mackenzie Wieger for this season and you could get him signed, but that's a great pickup. And I think what was interesting about that trade, and we're just at the Huberto trade right now, is that they got both. I mean, Jonathan Huberto set the record for left wingers and assisted a season last year. I know that we, like, I think Leaf fans, because we didn't make it to the second round again, forget that Austin Matthews won the heart. need we remind you that huberdo had a record-breaking year last year record-breaking and so that the fact that he was able to get a guy like that and a guy as good as mackenzie wieger i i honestly he's he's the reason mackenzie wieger in one fell swoop a makes their defense one

of the best cores in the league it was already in the conversation and b i believe is there i i can't see that because i'm blind but i believe he is their fifth highest paid defenseman he is one two three four five that's who makes who makes more than him uh we got noah hannifin at 4.9 that's the highest paid defense none of them make five stupid rasmus anderson at 4.5 chris tanev at 4.5 nikita zadorov at 3.7 and then mackenzie wieger at 3.2 the contracts here are fantastic and then all of our shillington at 2.5 that shillington deal is quite nice that's delicious um i think i think so so so then so this happens and then you go okay well but there's still a hole in the lineup we talked about this what are you gonna do i mean you got

back one but who's gonna be the center man on the second line how are these lines all gonna you do still have a hole there and and if you if you're if you don't have center depth you're cooked yes i don't care how great especially when you're going to play the oilers in the playoffs yes if you're going anywhere you have to beat the Oilers and they go and get a guy who just loves to be an asshole to Conor McDavid specifically well okay what did they say when when Nazem Khadri's career really turned around in Toronto because it did have a really a downspout it was the 16-17 season and who was it against what game it was Conor McDavid where uh early in the season Conor McDavid let's let's not revise history caved the Leafs in

all night i believe the shots were 42 to 29 something like that and but seconds into overtime because the game went to overtime cadre stripped mcdavid of the puck there was no penalty called and then scored to call game and that's when cadre for selkie was born and very annoying it didn't gain enough traction there was no real basis for it yes there was who won that year who won selkie that year probably bergeron i don't know probably but i assume like it was just the fans being annoying who's led by steve dang name them name them well now guess what cadre for selkie oh god when that was a bad 60 games no on twitter no in their first game against the oilers when the flames hold mcdavid to two points

he's gonna it's gonna be cadre for selkie i think and cadre's the kind of guy that's gonna look forward to that by the way uh sports net kept doing these hits with eric francis who's their calgary bureau guy and eric is about as positive as you can get about the flames even in the worst of times like uh he he's just that's just the way it is and before that hubert o deal happened he was like i just this is a bad this is a bad summer like you just and then those two deals happen and it's a completely different eric and it's a completely different look and i'm wondering now um because i i asked i asked the reason the reason i started the segment with are the flames better is i have a theory that you're gonna play a lot better when you know everybody everybody knows

they're in that window right oh yeah like i think there's an argument to be made although i think it's a bit of an unfair one that the Leafs guys are like Nylander still like 25 and he's the eldest I know right those guys are young young young guys Hubert Okadri uh Coleman all these guys are 29 30 31 and this is really the peak and then it's sort of like you got the next few years boys and that's it they have a solid I'm gonna call it at least a two-year window and I mean if you look at their contracts it's built specifically for the next and they brought in a guy who just won well brought in the guy who knows how to win which is so important for the second straight year they brought in a guy who won they uh they brought in blake coleman right right gave

him a bunch of money and here's cadre give him a bunch of money and so this is this is where i'm kind of wondering like i wonder if they're going to play better this year because they all know it's like we have to do this together now we got to do this now well and they don't want their effort to be a waste like what what an amazing season they had yeah are any of us going to remember it for that no no we're going to remember it for freaking getting killed killed by the oilers it was weird it was a really weird series like i i streamed the thing and i'm like flames have the puck flames have the puck flames have the puck oiler scored followed by the next shift which was the same shit and then by the end of the series it wasn't even that it was just oh

they're getting outplayed and they stink it was really weird really weird but cadre's a great match for that team i believe him when he says he exercised his um no trade because remember that happened yeah i believe him when he says he exercises no trade because he wanted to stay a leaf not because he didn't like calgary i think that's 100 i believe that i believe him yeah i think he had people uh had a narrative going about how he hated calgary and like it couldn't happen because he turned down the no trade but it was because he wanted to stay in toronto i think that's an easy calgary specifically right that's a very i don't know but no like really really hate those people yeah those gosh darn cal what are they called calgary calgarians by the way he knows

joke um no like most players have the canadian teams on their no trade list even players on canadian teams so they have a choice yeah and so the leafs had to deal with calgary he was able to say no to it um then they had to deal with colorado he wasn't able to say no to it and then woe is him he won a cup yeah not bad i think i think things broke cadre's way in the end yeah i think so too um so yeah an incredible job flames fans have got to be just buzzing with excitement i know audie and peter are for game over it's going to be a fun season and i cannot wait for those oilers matchups they are going to be awesome like those think about those saturday night uh uh like in the east obviously we're watching the leafs or the

canadians or ottawa whatever or some combo of both and then you get to and you know that battle alberta's coming get ready everyone it's former leaf nazim cadre against former leaf cody cc former leaf tyson berry former leaf zach hyman former yeah jack campbell you got them all jack campbell no i forgot one and there's isn't there someone on a pto i want to say the oilers have another guy uh i know that jimmy vc's on in the rangers of the pto uh yeah but he's former ranger destined to be a ranger forever sorry rangers fans i feel like they had like such a positive and then it's like no you missed greg mckegg

Gregory McHenry Calvin Picard Actually Calvin Pickard I know what I'm saying It's Star Trek Jean-Luc Calvin Picard is there

Brief stint That was the 1819 season Calder Cup champion Calvin Pickard Jesse Blake How dare you He's in their minor system So it's literally half Leafs So they're gonna win

and it's gonna be nauseating it's gonna hurt and be bad um cannot wait i don't think that could break worse if there's a bunch of former leafs and it's the oilers second round pick mr picard captain picard his uh brother was a first who's his brother chet chet pickard from the nashville predators i think no yeah haven't heard of him i don't know why i know that okay I wish I remembered that a little bit. Does he have a good career? And you wonder why it's hard for me to believe that you disconnected from hockey over August.

I just unplugged it. You remember Calvin Pickard's brother, who also didn't pass as an NHL player. His name was Chet. He was a first-rounder, and Nashville picked him. Look him up. Yes. Nashville, a goalie factory.

They swung and missed on him. All right, since we're on Chets, let's talk about Chet Hanks. You want to do an hour on Chet Hanks I certainly do want to do an hour of chatting Did you guys have a white boy summer? No that was last year Last year was white boy summer This year was he's sober

And being like I think he's trying to be motivational now Oh he's doing the Face turn I believe so Chet Pickard Zero career NHL games Really?

He last contract Was a contract with the Nashville Predators From 08 to 2013 It was a minor league deal Because he slid two years Because he played in the minors He only played in the AHL And no NHL games

I remember things Yeah I don't know why you would ever know that I don't know That's when I was still working at the zoo And all I had to quell my boredom Was Hockey News magazine Oh you just read Hockey News Yeah

I thought you were doing tours no so this is when i was doing tours there was no time to read the hockey news but when i was at the dreaded stroller rental oh no you did this you never talk about the stroller rental because it was my least favorite and i'm positive it's part of the reason my back is fucked and also uh uh people are really mean well you can see how they're tired there's a lot of shit going on just tired parents they're not trying to be mean they just haven't had a lot of sleep

now I'm a parent and I forgive most of them except the motherfucker who there were drink holders on either side of the back of the stroller boom boom diaper in both oh my god

I don't know and I noticed and he noticed me notice we locked eyes and I was just like you piece of shit like i didn't say it obviously i wanted to keep working but oh if you're out there fuck you that was awful i just uh it's still it's not my break for quite some time can't wait to continue to work this shift someone that was a tough day that was a shitty thing to do yeah um i uh i also want to i want to throw out there so my girlfriend's cousin

uh worked at the zoo with steve and mrs dang yes and uh her name is caitlin oh yes yes and so uh i just want you to know that jesse i want you to know that she's just like steve and mrs dangle and has not stopped talking about the zoo and this is according to her family okay they had two kids now uh her her husband jesse they're really awesome people it's like so much fun Are their names Metro and Toronto What's with people who work at the zoo I don't know it's a cult man It was a fun place

To work for 7 years 7 years you worked there Steve the only job you've had longer Than the job you had at the zoo name it Sportsnet and like only just You just passed the 7 year mark Oh and this I was going to say this I don't even know if you've been at sportsnet 7 years

24 oh you have oh wait 2014 8 have we been doing the show for nine goddamn yeah wow may 31st 2023 will be our longest job that will be our 10th year do you want to say i don't consider this a job i consider this a lifestyle with my friend do you want to give a eulogy for one of your other former careers uh leafs tv person yeah they're shutting down leafs tv and you used to work there That's where you got your start, right? Complicated memories with Leafs TV. It was a tough time in my life when it came to learning. I, frankly, got in there in part because they were like, well, he does these videos and that could be interesting.

And they let me do some things that, frankly, maybe I shouldn't have been allowed to do. Like they're, they're like, Hey, do you know how to film stuff? I'm like, I failed my camera test in school. They're like, cool, here's a camera and go shoot leaf practice. And I was like, Oh fuck. And failed miserably, um, until I failed less. Um, and in that way, Leafs TV was something that this industry sorely, sorely lacks. And we're hoping to help provide with game over and maybe something else, uh, a place

to fuck up. you're not allowed to fuck up in the big leagues you know what i mean um it still happens but it's notable and people rip on you for it leafs tv was a place where i could anonymously make mistakes you know what i mean that uh this highlight pack's not very good or or i didn't shoot this very well um but like so so many people that i worked there i don't know if i'd be here if if i didn't work there they sent me to boston to film an entire episode of uh leaf space for leafs tv a half hour episode of television and i edited it wow i was like 20 you produced a whole half hour up to cool i produced a half hour of television

basically all of it from scratch how much how much tim brent footage made it not a lot okay because that was the tim brent years i know was it the yeah tim brent oh fuck there was one year i was in charge of uh basically a playoff bracket of the top plays so i had to come up with i think it was 32 plays to go up against each other tournament style um in a year where the leafs finished second last so it was really hard there was a nazan cadre pre-season shootout goal there were you put a pre-season highlight in the top 32 not allowed That's not a regular That doesn't count

It's not a real goal They let it There were fights And in the final eight I believe there were Two Tim Brent goals Dude And those were his goals

That year They were great He had I think Eight goals the entire year And a quarter of them Made it in Oh gosh Wow

Dark times And I think he might have Had three highlights In the top eight Because the other one Was him blocking a shot With his balls But like you producing

Half an hour of television Is something you would do in like university You know you're not there for that But you're getting practice in these other disciplines To kind of see what you like and where you want to go down your career path But this wasn't an actual career An actual broadcast that's going to air The news ticker I did that

Parts of it That's a job Somebody's employed to do that And I would look up and I'd be like I did that And like you know how much it sucks To be watching the TV at Real Sports And it's the channel that you work for and there's something on the screen that you made and it's spelled wrong

that happened i'm i'm that there's me being wrong on a two-story television it was yeah what did you think of the location because everybody made a big deal about it being in a in a literal shoe box under the gardener the best part about it was it had a big parking lot that was free the worst part about it is it was in goddamn narnia and nowhere near the go station back when that area of toronto was so under the underdeveloped too i mean it's just developing now now it used it's the old industrial park in toronto right where all the sugar factories were and some of that's still like a majority of that's still there absolutely that area of toronto should have been called also yeah yeah and i remember we walked by a uh the shittiest looking pizza shop

i've ever seen jesse the shittiest one and it's down near st lord's market and you walk down the street and i'm like i and steve and i are for some reason together and this is years ago but remember that i lived near there my first place was at king and parliament street just up the street from there yeah and so steve and i might have been walking there or something i don't know what it was and i said i said can you imagine eating pizza from that place and steve's like actually it's pretty good that's where that was the only pizza place that they could go to what's it called it starts with an s and fuck you it is good okay it's probably still there right it probably is still there um i think it's a neighborhood favorite and i was like well

maybe i'm wrong about this place it just you have to be honest it didn't look appealing from the outside no but nothing down there did looked appealing looks great now yeah yeah was that one of those times adam picked you up from the go station and left me there to find my own way to adam's dude you never told me okay we gotta tell this story for nearly a full year i don't know how long it was it felt like my entire life we jesse and i both trained to the station yeah you came from the east i came from the west yeah and adam would pick me up and not you and but we didn't know jesse didn't this is back in the days where jesse didn't think i got to the adam's place i don't know i didn't drive there i didn't know i didn't know either so you guys just left

me to hang i knew you had a honda uh yeah stupid honda i drove that to the ghost station and i took the ghost station to downtown and then adam would pick up steve and his two-seater yeah because i did not there was none of those four seats you see nothing not this ad i had the nissan and then it got totaled and then i had the force that i couldn't fit in yeah yeah you were too tall for it you were yeah you wouldn't fit in his car anyway i remember berkshire getting in that he's like this college car is too small it's a very tiny car do you find something comical about the size of my automobile walks up steve why did you need an escort from the ghost station to adams it was cold

I didn't like it it's cause Adam's a good friend how about that to me not a good friend to me no I wasn't

I feel terrible about it but we didn't talk anyway you didn't tell me I want everybody to know what these two did to me

in my early years I know so if you're signing up for game over I don't know if you're gonna be treated the best

by these two guys you gotta earn your drive from Union Station at King and Parliament brother if I could offer you some advice

communication is key yes yes maybe talk ever hey you talk now i didn't talk much i didn't need i didn't need a drive i was a man the squeaky wheel street car gets the grease the silent wheel uh walks yeah i took the street and and you know eventually builds websites apps entire show programs i'm just i'm warning everybody coming in that just be careful of adam and steve yeah imagine how much quicker we could have got that website if jesse didn't spend all this time complaining i know

well you know he makes a point yeah no uh it was yeah it was a nice place to work it was yeah uh i have to say i i did work there too people forget that because it was more i was more oh yeah so when they rebrand you host the camera straight away yeah um i i worked there i did the the official toronto maple leafs podcast for a season with uh saski stewart that's right and it was we weren't leafs tv we at that point had switched to leafs nation network yeah you don't which was super weird because the nation network uh yes uh where steve used to work where justin fisher used to work and jeffler and dom and all these guys they all started there um they were also the leafs nation network or something they released nation or something if i could offer the leafs

nation uh.com some advice hire dumber people because they keep getting their talent poached by nhl because their talent's good yeah earl schwartz was the latest one i know he got signed up with the carolina hurricane i tried to tell you guys man tried to tell you guys um so uh so anyway yeah i hosted there not only were the production staff really really great i wasn't i to give it it wasn't my full-time job right i went in there i rolled in there i did the podcast one of six for you yeah but at the time yeah uh but i remember we did i did interviews from everybody from like cassie campbell paschal to um will arnett came on that show um uh chris tadfield was on that show like just unbelievable guy like when you think about it you're like

these interviews were insane yeah um and uh and you know obviously i don't know how many people actually listen to the show i've never actually known that number but it was pretty cool and occasionally and this was right around the time austin and mitch and willie got to the team you would see the players come off the ice for uh they're after they're like 10 a.m skate and we would just be starting the podcast and we would be in the restaurant and so the players come in and the restaurant actually cooks their food for them and they eat and i remember frank corrado steal all the tomato sauce yeah probably we should ask frank about that but one thing i really noticed at the time and this is an odd observation is that like the team was very young right team was

very young and you could tell with certain adults um just based on their the broadness of their shoulders and the thickness of their muscles who's the adult and who's the person who eventually will be an adult yes yes you're legally an adult but physically you're not the one person who was absolutely an adult from game one is austin matthews yep that was that's a man right there i was like i remember walking by i'm like oh my god he's he's ripped and he's like again 18 yeah uh it was it was crazy i remember i ran into mike babcock there and he said uh he said excuse me and i said oh i'm so sorry and he said no problem no problem wow and they went for his run what a great interaction i know it's it's fantastic his runner it's a great it's a great sports interaction

there steve hey um and so i think you know like ultimately it was a good training ground for all of us it was fun to say i worked for the toronto maple leafs for a couple seasons that was cool um ah but i remember what what leafs tv did that was so ahead of its time and nobody's done this since it's put me on television they created what is now in effect discord but for toronto maple leafs fans they had leaf space leaf space was so ahead of its time it was like my space but for leafs fan you made your own profile you interacted back and forth with the leafs fans steve used to moderate those chats and i bet they were bananas but the game chats weren't that difficult they were challenging but not difficult um i think we'd have like several

hundred to a couple thousand people in there well think about that not now though no 2008 eight yeah well i remember i think it was the francois beauchemin trade or something like that there were 22 000 people in there holy smokes and i was alone it was quite approved comment approved comment approved approved that was one had a swear word fuck all right and this is so anyway it's a um it's a i'm glad you brought that up jesse that's a really good point monica monica with a k deserves a little shout out too yeah she was like a lead host on that she was awesome i'm trying to find uh some of your blue line podcast videos i don't know if they're up anymore yeah it seems like they've all been taken down off the website but there's one

their facebook page they haven't taken down uh some of the content so there's there's a little baby so some of the promos that you had uh up are still up by the way you said you know i'm wearing that toronto arenas jersey do you think that they gave that to me you had to give it back oh yeah they brought it down from the store they're like put this on hide the tags okay we're bringing it back oh my god no free gear nothing i was like i'm gonna get a leafs jersey out of this for sure right nope and i was like okay if i take the money that you're paying me which is very tiny and i spent it at the lease store is there a discount nope i was like all right well fine then yeah when i try and go to the video that's linked it's been taken it's been taken

that's a bummer well it's too bad but you know what it was time and you know the interesting thing about that idea and we'll move off this in a second but i think you'll find this interesting do you know the reason why leafs tv was created in the first place um mark askin i don't know okay so friend of the show and one of our first major guests richard petty who was the ceo of maple leaf sports and entertainment at one point um richard petty wrote a little bit in his book it's a little bit in um in sean fitzgerald's article about it uh and it's out there in interviews that essentially what was happening is the Leafs were really bad at the time and it's hard to imagine this now because sports rights are worth so much money now but back then

2006 2007 the big NBA deal hadn't happened yet and the NHL like was on the outdoor life network in the states it was really passe and the Leafs were were terrible so TSN which is owned by now bell but back then was ctv globe media and um sports net which used to be a ctv property which then was transferred to rogers it was called ctv sports net believe it or not um they both were like playing games with maple leaf sports and entertainment they're like they're like wow we don't want to pay that much we'll get back to you yeah okay richard we'll call you back imagine that's toronto maple leaf yeah well yeah we'll call you we'll call you you wait in line toronto maple leafs for us local broadcast changed a few years later right

and so what richard petty said was fine what we're going to do is we're going to launch our own channel and we're going to have our games on our channel and you're going to have to subscribe and pay seven dollars a month on your cable package and you'll get all the leafs games and we're doing them and they hired john shannon former uh head of hockey night in canada that's right they hired a bunch of hosts who ended up being there for like 10 15 years glenn healy was on there big daddy bob mcgill paul hendrick paul hendrick was there and they were all going to be the game crew and what happened was all of a sudden that perked up the broadcasting companies and they were like oh we don't like this so what did they do instead of buying the rights

they bought the team bell and rogers are part owners with larry tannenbaum of the toronto maple leafs raptors marley's tfc they wanted the content they wanted the content they bought the whole fucking thing so instead of spending yeah instead of spending several million whatever it was to buy the rights to the team they spent hundreds of they probably spent billions buying it no we need those tuesday night panthers games like they weren't putting the cream on the crop no and honestly rogers didn't even end up buying that big deal that they have now with the nhl until 2013 so as long anyway i just thought it was kind of neat because richard petty essentially it's like um it's that's that scene from um from moneyball where uh uh they're at the trade

deadline and they're trying to go after that reliever and brad pitt's calling uh another general manager going what does it take to get him off your hands so he can take the market away and make sure this other guy is traded to him yeah uh essentially richard petty created a third competitor to piss off the other two which i think is cool and it worked it worked you don't need a cable channel anymore though no right if you care about like uh sports media in canada sean fitzgerald's article on leafs tv is a fascinating read like even good job even little tidbits like john shannon's budget for the year he was given seven million dollars and to think a seven million dollar budget for the entire year that's something sportsnet spends in a couple weeks or like a

month oh my god on their broadcast you know so yeah if you're interested in this kind of seven million for the entire year yeah so if you're interested go read it by the way cameras just give you an idea a camera like a news camera cost you twenty five thousand dollars oh well and this was like sort of the dawn of hd as well oh and those were hundred thousand dollars and i remember it being a big deal we got eight we're going to hd now we're going to another big thing uh that they were doing while i was there is they were slowly converting their tape library to digital oh wow because you needed a room bigger than the room we're currently in full of beta tapes and they were like you know what could save us space a hard drive these computer things

yeah they're not going anywhere and and it's and you're like oh how long did that take forever because they had to convert it from beta tape to digital in real time oh yeah you had to put every game on every commercial everything so you know three hour hockey game it's got a play through three hours and they had hundreds and you have to then check afterwards for errors oh yeah right actually oh yeah if you check if you have an error on that tape and then it makes it to digital and then you don't and you throw that tape away so you're talking probably millions of hours is that hard to imagine every leafs game ever something like that it has to be something and they had do they have argos as well for something anyway it took forever it took an

eternity and they would have raptors too and yeah it was a weird transitional period for media it's i gotta tell you hd and even when we started the show the way the leafs brand has changed since we started like it was in the toilet there was apathy people weren't buying tickets to the game i would and i all the highlight packs i did were for the other team like oh here's here's ovechkin scoring two goals and a 5-1 leaf loss it was always by the way ovechkin always did it against the leafs he has scored so many goals against the leafs it's crazy everyone was a leaf killer it's amazing how many people like in the tail end of their career are labeled leaf killers no were you a leaf killer or did you just debut around 2005

yeah and we're good yeah ovechkin gets laugh gets laugh crosby eric stall yeah crosby malkin drew it's just go through the list right it's like are you a sabers killer or do you just exist in this time yeah oh man yeah really yeah stephen stamkos really gets the sabers goat right yeah is is that the case or is he just a star right now when they were bad for a decade and uh yeah adam to your point about the leafs changing the brand like a lot of that credit goes to tim lywicky who came in here for like an hour and we're just like all right i'm changing every single thing we're going in a completely new direction and then left after everything was kind of like in good order him doing that led to a tfc championship a raptors championship

and Dave noticed his five-year extension. And I think two out of three ain't bad, Tim. He's now building arenas with his brother. I do want to mention sportsinteraction.com slash SDPN. Of course, it's 19 plus. Please pay responsibly. Jesse, I'm going to run you through the football games this week. Okay.

Okay. I want to know who you take. Oh, my God. Okay. Oh, I know. Yeah, but okay. Let me pull up the odds because it matters what... What the odds are.

Yeah, yeah. Because I know Steve knows nothing about football. oh you watch i just sent you the link jesse now i'm going i'm going down to the steelers in november which i'm very excited about it's gonna be my first football game in like five years well because here's the thing with if natalie mom's mom told me she's like i'm from pittsburgh if you want uh your girlfriend to be accepted by the family she must first be indoctrinated into the church of pittsburgh and so that's what we're gonna go do which is kind of exciting so i'm excited for that those trips to uh nfl games are so much fun i did one before the pandemic to

the buffalo to go see a game there it's unbelievable if natalie comes back and pronounces things correctly i'm going to be disappointed yeah put it down put it down i want to uh i'm trying to find a way to get on get her on the gateway clipper i think i've told you about this before it's this big floating boat of 5 000 people and it goes back and forth across the river all day long bringing steelers fans over to the stadium and you can hear the chants getting louder in the distance as this thing comes in and it docks right under a statue with mr rogers who is from pittsburgh wow there you go i did not know that very exciting so jesse yes this week our football line of sports interaction.com you got the jets at 3.48

which i think is actually really good odds for the jets and then baltimore at 133 are you taking jets or you taking baltimore on that uh i'll take the ravens yeah yeah lamar jackson comeback season he's he's out for vengeance he needs a new contract at the end of the year he's gonna go out there and dominate and uh there's nothing positive about the jets except for their new yeah they're so bad um uh uh la oh you didn't you didn't ask me oh i'm sorry steve who are you taking j-e-t-f this should be against the spread too it matters so it's uh ravens minus seven oh okay all right all right so we got la buffalo here buffalo is the favorite but only by a little yeah who would you take in the first game i think there's a lot of pressure on buffalo from buffalo

fans because this is supposed to be the year are they going to screw it up i got in game one uh rams minus two or rams plus two okay sorry all right i got uh buffalo doug flutie's gonna have a big there you go houston and indianapolis houston which is supposed to be they're supposed to be the worst team this year right are they worse than the jets i got i got the bears i got houston being a scrappy good team i like davis mills i like uh damian pierce their new running back uh brandon cooks is always consistent so then are the colts that much better or is this one where you take houston as a sleeper i have i have houston a lot higher than most people so but uh and like plus seven i don't know i i would take houston in this game just because i

don't know i don't have a lot of faith in the cold okay all right jonathan taylor is great but like i'm not believing it two more games to go i think jonathan taylor thomas is going to do great and the colts will win what did you call him jonathan taylor thomas you know who that is right who's he's the lion king kid and he was also in home improvement with the voice of simba yeah he basically had like this career from like 13 to 19 where he was you know simba and the lion king he was on the biggest show on television and then he was like i'm done now yeah good for him we don't even get pictures of him anymore we stand uh and then okay you got carolina uh with their new car this is so easy and cleveland carolina carolina baker mayfield

revenge game yes against cleveland how crazy is that uh and then lastly um dolphins and patriots dolphins are favored in this game which is kind of surprising because they're the dolphins and the patriots are always the patriots despite the fact that the patriots have fallen from grace the miami dolphins are a notable screw-up team and the patriots are a notable wow they're surprises they're better than we thought the the dolphins hype i think is too people online love uh tua their quarterback yeah to a crazy extent like they they added tyreek hill and they still got jaylen waddle uh but the hype's too much and like the pats themselves have had a weird off

season so this is what bill belichick did i'll tell you guys a little story so you know how you like hire a coach for a position yeah he decided to hire two guys for one position and they have two offensive coordinators so in their own right they have a very wonky coaching staff but they're the pats they should be able to get it done versus the dolphins in week one so i would go with the path yeah bet against drew bledsoe at your own peril i got the bats as well by the way you can bet almost popular and win 83 bucks as well which is kind of cool sportsinteraction.com sdpn to sign yourself up

dave bass will be back thursday and by the way i should mention we are doing um we're doing shows tuesday and thursday through september and then as soon as we hit october we're going to be back to our normal monday wednesday friday um uh and um julian and chris will be doing mondays and thursdays throughout the season so just in case you're wondering about that agent provocateur will be back but there'll be you know as we do we don't have like a normal posting schedule for that right it's sort of like when we have the episode ready we'll let you know i like but it'll be most weeks i like equally anticipating yeah let me forget you and then let me remember you oh hooray and to update another show on the network our promo department actually just sent a message

to Steve Dangle to do a live read on the show for a show that's coming up. So Steve, if you want to take it away. This Wednesday, it's a podcast for the ages. An NFL season preview episode episode, you fucking idiot, featuring

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youtube.com slash stpn or search the jesse blake sports report wherever you get your podcasts touchdown did you write that uh i know i just found the promo department it's amazing also um are you doing that live is that like a live stream no it's already been recorded I got it he's already done yeah and so it's already how are the Steelers gonna do this year just give me a little preview good Steelers um I'm worried because their offensive line it sucked last year and they didn't get any better and uh their offense is gonna be run through uh Najee Harris running the ball and if you don't have an offensive line I'm worried you can't run the ball you can't run the ball and is Trubisky actually the starter uh I think they'll

go with Mitch for game one I don't know yet who they who they've I haven't checked in with Tomlin but like all mike tomlin has done in his career is win yeah so there is that winning culture there but like you lose your top wide receiver in juju and like you're going with george george pickens and um chase claypool like there's not a lot of stars there and i'm just worried about the offensive line failing for the perhaps perhaps the most shocking thing of mike tomlin's career is how much he kept a lid on antonio brown yeah for years for years and then antonio brown left and then it all happened he's gonna come back that's what he says who knows if if pittsburgh finds a way to win this year it's because tomlin put together a great game plan throughout i don't

think other than bruins fans hating tuka rask for no reason i've never seen a group of fans dislike a coach as much as steel some steelers fans do and a coach who continually wins like he continually wins and they're like you know what i remember it's you know what it's similar to what barry trotz was in washington when when like i remember going into that season we were having discussions like yeah this might be barry trotz last year and i we went through like his record we're like this is really really good i feel like caps fans were like wait no and then no but then they're like we had cast fans going yeah it was time for him to go and then he wins a cup and then it's like well it's still time just had to have had to go had to happen i don't i

don't know that it did capitals um jt miller let's talk about jt miller new contract we had wondered for a while if if this was actually going to happen because the rumor was he was going to get traded now um i believe it is seven years eight million per it has him in the sticking sticking with vancouver until he's 37 assuming he doesn't get traded and president jim rutherford told sports nets in mcintyre that miller is the type of player you want to uh where you have to take some risk eventually you do have to take some risk but the canucks just started the plan whatever the plan is do you think sometimes that you're almost made to sign a guy because the value out there is just not there yeah unpopular uh opinion maybe i

think they made the right choice um i know a lot of people are saying that's too rich for him but i agree i don't think the trade was there um and if it was they would have made it um because at the end of the day you're not gonna get that huge package for jt miller unless the team who's trading for him feels like they can re-sign him and if they don't feel like they can re-sign him they might offer you a package but it's not going to be that ridiculous one it wasn't there so now you got a guy who you know one of the one of the things about Nazem Kadri is he had that monster season last year but he doesn't really have a track record of that he has a track record of scoring 30 goals he has a track record of being an extremely good 2c but for one season he produced

at 1c and a lot of people despite liking him are betting on that not happening again right JT I think his contract reflects that, seven years, $7 million. That's what a high-end second-line center makes, especially in free agency. I think it's cheap, personally. A lot of people didn't like that one either because he's going to be old by the end of it. That's what a player of his quality makes.

And JT Miller has a longer track record of being this guy. He brings a lot. I think the Canucks are better than people give them credit for we saw that under Bruce Boudreaux we knew that when they were at their lowest last year before firing Travis Green they are too talented to be this bad are they a playoff team I think so are they a contender I think that might be a bit aggressive but they're there they're there they're a good team and they're certainly not going to get better uh by getting rid of jt miller and by and when you get rid of jt miller you got to replace jt miller what team is giving up a jt miller replacement nobody so you'd have

to draft it as the now that this is this was the leafs dilemma after extending kneelander and martin matthews those contracts would look a lot better if the cap went up at the rate it was supposed to but then the world stopped uh so the canucks are betting on the world not stopping which i would like to bet on as well um so i think it's a fair bet once every hundred years yeah i think they're gonna be fine okay i think the canucks are gonna be fine uh decent deal um it also sort of i feel like this establishes that uh remember we were talking about petterson making 10 yeah i'm with him not playing very well frankly and even if he improves i think it's going to be really difficult for him to make significantly more than miller right long term okay he might

maybe not significantly more uh also uh some news moving off of jt miller um uh a player with 56 career goals was given a 50 million dollar contract this offseason 56 career goals 56 career goals don't say it jesse oh i think i know who it is who is it is it tage thompson stage thompson so there's a guy who's 50 million dollars now he did it once exactly and i was just going to play that out because here's the thing people forget now the buffalo sabers uh were really bad the year before but in 38 games he had eight goals and six assists the next year last year 78 games 38 goals 30 assists 68 points wasn't it last year his first full season at center yeah last it was uh yeah the uh the 38 goals comes as his first year as

a centerman so they think they've unlocked something here but there's a long history of overpaying guys for their one season where they're shooting percentage matt baleski where their shooting percentage spikes by like more than triple i believe his shooting percentage before was like five percent and last year was 14 you know and everything goes in they're hoping that this is who he is but my thing with the deal is you didn't have to make it now why didn't you just wait it out and if he does it again give him the same deal i don't think if he does it again is it going up that substantially maybe it's a couple hundred thousand but you have them under contract for this season you don't want to i think buffalo has to worry about uh

losing guys right like we we always talk about the uh the no trade list it's it's canada and it's buffalo you know what i mean buffalo who the states keep trying to offer us in a trade we will trade you buffalo in exchange for all the tim hortons franchises or something like that um they they they have to worry about retention more than other teams but even to that point his expiry on this deal that he's currently on would have been an rfa contract can't go anywhere yeah and as a gm you have so much leverage on guys like that it's i'm listen wait it out and wait halfway through the year if i can add one more thing to that before you get into this he's got a modified no trade that kicks in after this coming season i'm trying to pick my spots

with buffalo because we really hammered them and i gotta tell you what uh kevin adams came out of this looking really good uh they to date have won the jack eichel trade to date no question no question we'll see how that goes but so far they're looking really good they got money to spend but here's the thing alex tuck was brilliant people are always like oh they got so much cap space yes until they don't and they need it right yeah it's you eat it up very fast um so i want to i want to pick my spots with the sabers but all the points you're making are pretty valid man they're pretty valid wait wait a couple months make the deal in january see if how he does half a season that it wasn't just an anomaly well that's right it you're right jesse does not kick in until after this

season yeah you could you had a whole season to see if tage is the real deal like doesn't i love tage thompson he was my picture uh most what was it most underrated player remember we did those awards underrated or improved improved yeah i love tage but i just want to see him do it again Yeah, that's a, oh, man. It's a risk. At a certain point as a GM, you have to take a risk. I'm just not sure that this is it. Who's their goalie?

Well, who they have under contract is Craig Anderson and Eric Comrie. I'm imagining that those are their guys. That's still kind of tough. Malcolm Subban is on injured reserve. I'm not sure how injured he is. Goalie slash anthem singer. There you go. Yeah.

That's a thing that happens. The Pagoulas will like that. They save a little money. yeah we already we already pay you jessica pagula into the round of 16 i saw that yeah she's eighth ranked in the world she's the number one female american tennis player in the world right now wow so people have been saying i've been mad at the pagulas for being distracted and i'm like well if my kid was the eighth ranked in the world i know what i'd be focused on uh not that they are but i'm like i'm just telling you if i own the sabers and everly was eighth ranked in

world i don't give a shit about the sabers sorry like a team yeah sell the team and use the money to go to all the games yeah matches whatever i don't think they need i think yeah they get it for no money to sell yeah the weird thing about being eighth in the world is i think you get free tickets no also i think they're billionaires oh yeah they're billionaires they could literally buy the tour i don't think they'd even need the free tickets no you're wrong you're wrong yeah anyway it's it's been a uh it's been a treat i want to i want to i want to ask you guys about this okay the winnipeg jets i don't know if you guys saw this this summer winnipeg jets came out with uh on august the 17th that's how long ago long i've been saving this one they want to

celebrate a few famed jets now the franchise has been around for 10 years it's about time that they start celebrating people that play for them you're gonna bring up thrash thrashers uh i don't know uh jets would like to celebrate tamu solani and tempo numenum with hall of fame inductions never played for your franchise neither of them and this is why i keep telling you and people are like you're wrong you're stupid records should belong to the city they happened in not to the franchise that moved to arizona in 1996 because under the current rules i don't understand Neither Solani or Newman are eligible to be raised to the rafters of the current Winnipeg Jets. I don't understand why people are protective of that.

I think there's some sort of like, somebody actually really made a good argument with me once on Twitter about like, there's like, I forget what it was. And I apologize if this was you, because I was driving them crazy because I kept repeating it. And they're like, I'm just going to kill you. And I was like, okay. And then. No, I know Coyotes fans are not happy. Well, it wasn't a Coyote fan, but it was just somebody who's like a stats person. Who's like, well, this is how it negatively affects the stats.

And I was like, okay, but, and I remember reading it. I was like, that's a sensible argument. But at the same time, I'm like, it's about the fans. You shouldn't have allowed them to be called the Jets. Yeah, maybe that was it. You gave Winnipeg a team back and you called them the Jets. They're the Winnipeg Jets. They're alternate.

Guys, that's the Winnipeg Jets. Stop it. Stop it. you weren't oh yeah you were just going to jet skates all the time there you're just commuting from arizona fuck off stop it stop it all it belongs to the city i stop records belong in the city that they can't you know what that's what i believe down to this comes down to these leagues run by all these owners they don't look at it as these teams are owned by the fans and like the records they look at is this is my company and my toy and my team yes and if i

move it to there i still get all my stuff and legally it is like stan crown key owns the um the los angeles rams they used to be in st louis he picked up the team from st louis and moved it to la he's not saying if there's another football team in st louis they get all my records no i get my super bowl i won in st louis and now it's a part of the la rams this is my team not the fans team and that's these billionaires being like no the jets these aren't these jets those are those No one's taking your ring, man. No. It should be with the fans.

It's the wrong way to do shit. Given how things have gone since they moved to Arizona, the Arizona Coyotes would want to hang on to the Winnipeg Jets records because they're much better. Honestly, the Jets of the 80s are way better than people give them credit for. Is there an Avco Cup banner in Arizona? No, I wouldn't think so. Then what the fuck?

They won it. Honor your franchise. remember your your past your history for people that don't know what the avco cup is uh it's for the wha that's right it's basically the stanley cup of the wha and the jets i want to say won the last one so they're still the reigning avco cup champ undefeated undefeated dude stop it please stop it anyway i loved it i just thought it would drive the hockey people like you guys mad so stupid i hope the game is against the owner to get away from that i like it for the fans though i like that the jets are doing oh yeah i like that the current jets are doing this this is

what should happen i agree these guys were legends in that city absolutely they should be honored i think adam uh wild just watched the temu solani trade tree that i i didn't i haven't seen it yet you fucker i know i'm sorry it's really good how many years does it go uh oh like what's the spread on that it's not still going but okay put it this way so it happened i think it was in 1992 the trade no that was his 70 whenever the trade was i think it was 96 95 or 96 it helps the ducks win the 2007 cup wow yeah it's good trade it got the ducks cory perry whoa yeah how's that for a tease how's that for a tease go find out how on the sportsnet youtube channel you know what if i was the guy that bought i'm assuming it's a guy whoever bought the jets

and said we're moving them to arizona the true north people no it wasn't true north true north oh the other way sorry my bad um i would have been like okay i'll buy your team but if you trade solani deals off like think about what solani would have been in arizona oh i know right with kachuk and craig janney and jeremy ronick and nikolai habibulin they weren't a bad team no they were tepo neumann they were a really good team actually alexis was alexis jamnoff i think jamnoff was there as well because he was a jet leaf killer probably eddie olchuk might have been on that team for a bit uh i know he was a jet for one yeah for sure i mean i mean less of a star we love you dallas but less of a star i just think

it's one of those where i can't believe that solani got traded before the team moved that should have been something that they held on to that guy yeah it's that should be something that adds value yes also that was the mid 90s and there was no cap and players were making stupid money i think that was right before joe sakic is still if i'm not mistaken the highest paid player to ever play you make like 19 million or something yeah and this was season over a quarter century ago something like that yeah yeah that this is the problem is that like you know when people say oh there's no issue with the salary cap it's like yeah for the players actually there is like revenues have gone up yeah that's a huge issue it's a complete opposite sundine was the highest

paid leaf in history until like 2000 i remember he signed an extension it was like 8.8 million dollars a year or something i think that was nothing i think the highest he made was over nine yeah crazy a little over nine yeah yeah yeah like gretzky was making eight million or nine million for the for the kings in 1990 think about that right and you think a nine million dollar now some cadre can't even get nine million today as as part of the gretzky trade from edmonton to la um the oilers got 15 million dollars which sounds like nothing like in the grand scheme of things uh but it could have bought you at the time gretzky five times over wow i think yeah yeah well i don't know if you guys remember the brian we had the brian

burke interview during the pandemic and if you've forgotten about it you can be uh uh you can be forgiven because who hasn't forgotten everything about that but um about the pandemic not brian brian was awesome no no one forgets brian but uh um you know he talked about in the book how if they were going to trade for gretzky they would have had to raise ticket prices and they weren't sure they'd be able to sell them and i thought okay so you get you're getting wayne gretzky and you're afraid you won't sell out that's the economics of the nhl vancouver in the late 80s can you imagine imagine like you know what guys we're gonna trade for sydney crosby but i'm a little concerned about uh people showing up man ah we're gonna get conor mcdavid in his

prime i'm not sure people are going to see it we have to raise the prices i don't know if we can do it that's crazy and then years later he said toronto couldn't support a second nhl team gretzky did no no burke yeah i think there's a business case to be made for that i think he's wrong um eventually he will be wrong city gets bigger eventually he can support two teams yeah maybe at the time he was correct yeah but i think i certainly now i would i would maybe look at that differently there's a lot of money here um and like mcdavid back to the contract thing that's a player who should be making oh 25 million based on like the other sports and how athletes are actually paid uh based on their market value mcdavid should be in the 20 million something

range did you mcdavid is more than four million dollars better than jt miller you know what i mean and that's not meant to be an insult to jt miller it's meant to be the the biggest star in this league like he might not be he might stop being the highest paid player in the league like in a year in less than a year basically if the salary gap goes up yeah well because of nathan mckinnon as well like he's he's gonna get i don't know nathan mckinnon on the open market should probably fetch 13 million dollars what's the max is 13 the max at 82.5 it's how much max is 15 But like we already know Players have been offered 13 million dollars

Panarin Panarin I believe Tavares By the Sharks Mitch Columbus I don't know if they offered him 13 They offered him more than he got Which was almost 11 million dollars

Yeah man Anyway Where were we going with all that Go Jets Yeah and that'll be nice It'll be a nice story for them And that's great and uh i'm sure dave bastl will be at that game in his original tame usulani jersey which i'm

sure he's got stuff in a cupboard somewhere i'm sure he will be and when they score they'll play the goal horn oh no that's mean no yeah you're right uh you know that we're like six weeks away from seeing nhl hockey at asu wow i'm excited for it man i don't want to trash codies anymore like they're they're they're done they make dumb business decisions sometimes but man that is going to be a fun watch i mean listen i maintain my stance on it but it's done yeah so it's done it's happening so this is the just enjoy it part yeah wait like listen you're not always going to be in an ideal situation but sometimes you got to make the best with the situation you're in and they're playing in a closet and they need to make the best out of it we shouldn't downplay

how absurd the spectacle is going to be. Certainly it is. Like, it's going to be a fucking wild watch. I'm sure ESPN's just dying to play that game on ESPN1. You know what it reminds me of?

No, it's not. Of course. It might. Just for, holy shit, look at this. It does make the NHL look a bit silly. I want Stephen A. Smith

at ASU. Me too. But here's the thing. The one good thing I'll say out of this is, and we've said this before, I think that they're, and I'm not just being

obnoxiously positive here, the one good thing that could happen is it could, like, you know when you see a band in a smaller environment and it's awesome and then you see them in this thing and it's still awesome but it's not as intimate. I get it. You're getting

hockey on an intimate level. It's expensive. The tickets are not cheap. But if you can fill that barn every night and if you can have some fun and develop a real following there, it's going to carry them for the next decade. What a golden opportunity

for Arizona to rip off Canadian tourists. Oh, absolutely. I'm sure it's sold out. what hey get some advice from your neighbors uh in vegas yeah okay oh actually jesse because steve's probably going to be doing streams do you want to go down yeah let's try it let's go you want to do some research i'm only doing the stream saturday well i work during the week so oh yeah you said fuck me you know what i could take a few days off and we could do a live podcast

down in arizona oh i gotta work i'll just go watch hockey ah let's go see the leafs let's go see the leafs play in arizona let's do it i want to do it we can do that right i want to see matthews score a hat trick in a 5 000 person venue yeah we need to see matthews you know what it reminds me of like i remember there was a the leafs rarely do this but there was a pre-season game at rico now coca-cola coliseum so it was the home arena of the toronto marlies and patrick marlo was playing that night and i remember just being like it's odd and frankly not right that patrick marlowe's playing in this building yeah yeah it's weird yeah that he's playing here and like sydney crosby's going to play at asu conor mcdavid's gonna play at asu

that's bananas i went to the coyotes website it says single game tickets check back later this summer for single game ticket opportunity so we'll see where that goes later this summer so the website's like two weeks from it right now they're only selling like five game packages 10 game packages suites that sort of stuff so i don't know where the single game tickets are going to come available but we should try and get down there for a game um the one for me like if this leads to sustainable hockey in arizona as a market then it's a good thing yes yes like if this is the this the path you had to go through if you go through the mud and this is your arena for the next couple years but then you get 20 years 30 years 50 years of this franchise then it's all

good yeah then thumbs up to you and more austin matthews talent please yeah arizona could turn into the hockey hotbed of the entire world i will still criticize the way this played out agreed and i don't think you're wrong i don't think anybody can look at this and go no objectively this is the right thing no and also let's also in the context of the last 15 years of what's happened and what they've done to those fans down there right ownership changes the nhl buying it moving it to three different cities like it's crazy but jesse's right steve's right if you if this is what it takes well by golly and we can have it both ways so we can say the last 20 years in arizona have been awful and it's just the fans it's been a shit show and it's been a

mess but also there's a thriving hockey market there and they're trying every single way to make it work and if this makes it work then kudos to you but it's also been really shitty along the way no i got news for you jesse if you can't fit your entire ideology into a tweet then fuck yourself all right or into one argument remember every conversation starts from the beginning the man-made fire oh my god yeah why okay what's your stance on the coyotes playing at asu all right so there was the big bang you're able to still see it through a really powerful telescope

it takes too long to explain but tell you what i'll do it anyway so oh god yeah hey let's do the press conference the steve dangle press conference so we you may have gotten a tease about this but i think it's only fair that we start off the press conference because we had some news to start the show but i didn't want to stack news on stack news on stack news right for the network jesse i think it's fair that we give steve the stage right oh yes want to explain what that uh that uh sub tweet video thing was i made a video where i did a 360 of the blue room and then i gave a creepy

little wave in the mirror part of my little youtube button that i got for hitting a hundred thousand subscribers i'm very close to two hundred thousand please help me get there and when i do get there because i hope i will get there it will be in another house in another city because your boy is moving you're leaving oshawa i'm leaving shawleywood the bright lights were too much for me don't laugh the community was too thriving berry hill farms was just too damn good for breakfast it is it is actually really great breakfast amazingly no and i'm actually very sad to be leaving oshawa because i really do like my neighborhood and i like my neighbors and the

community and everything but moving to ajax which is uh for those of you who have no idea about toronto suburbs uh it goes here's how far i have to drive every goddamn time i come to this place it's toronto pickering ajax would be oshawa by the way toronto when he says toronto there are several neighborhoods that were not previously a part of toronto like scarborough which is where steve and i are from so you have to go through those first so you're scarborough or toronto here where we are right now this is trump this is toronto toronto proper and then we are about a five minute drive from the start of where scarborough was scarborough goes for about 20 minutes and then it's pickering for about 10 minutes whippy for about 10 minutes ajax as well

ajax for about 10 minutes and yeah ajax first and then whippy and then nothing farmer's fields and then oshawa i hate that that's accurate but i'm moving closer to the city and in traffic how long does it normally take you to get here like just for a podcast how long today it took over an hour how long will it take you from ajax i calculated that by making this move assuming we do three episodes a week which we will i will be saving three calendar days of my life a year In the car Three calendar days that I will be spending in the car Gone

I can do whatever I want Ah I'm going to be saving at least 40 minutes every time Now if you'd moved to Whitby You could have become Mascot of the Whitby Wildcats Minor League Association

Are you aware of the name of the Ajax Minor Hockey League Association They're the Ajax Knights And there's another one uh i didn't they amalgamate with the pickering panthers ajax raiders my friend ajax raiders ajax pickering raiders so the reason i know about the knights is very briefly during my fourth year of university um i got a little side job at my friend's dad's sporting goods store uh and i i steamed the stop signs you know the stop signs they put on the back of jerseys to make sure you

don't hit people from behind i steamed the stop signs onto the back of ajax knights jerseys oh cool yeah i've never done that is it satisfying it looks satisfying like when you steam that stuff on no the whole time i was just like i hope i don't fuck this up that's how i go into most things so why are you moving um we wanted a bigger house for our our son who's getting taller and more childlike instead of toddler like. Less paperweight. Less paperweight and oh he's a very fast

paperweight. Yeah. And we wanted to move further west. That was always the plan was to get a little closer to Toronto. We people I had someone go why'd you move to Oshawa in the first place and I was like because that's all we could afford. But then it

became this place that we grew to love and I'm very sad to be leaving. Now, Jesse, I understand that you're going down there on Friday. No, he already went. Two weeks ago? Yeah, I think so. Two weeks, yeah. To see what is going

to be the new blue room. Yeah. So there will be another blue room. It's ginormous. It's bigger than like this space. Yeah, so basically, it's long. It's long. Yeah. So basically what I could do is on one wall, I could unwrap the entire blue room as it is right now

and just... I could make it so that you could barely tell I've moved. Or I could completely change the design. What do you think you're going to do? I don't know. I don't know. I think I'm going to change it a little bit. Maybe we should get some voting going on in the Discord.

Like, do we want some change? Do we want a glow up? A little bit of a glow up? And here's another. Well, I won't eyeball where I nail everything, so I'll actually measure it out. But I've stopped collecting memorabilia. We're talking about this. Yeah, because there's no room.

there's no friggin room like there wasn't any room in the blue room and then there were i thought there was no room and then i found room and then stuff had to go in the storage room and then i'm giving away stuff and no now i can start accumulating stupid shit so if you're hanging it on the wall so if you got some dolls you want to sell i'm your guy for your figures you have an opportunity here where you need stuff now to fill up the extra space yeah not a lot but when we're doing the tour like there was a lot of there's a lot of cool ideas on what you can do with that space like in in the middle like we were talking about um you know those those lights that are also uh jumbotron yeah and you would have like a true center ice there if you want to put in

maybe some fake ice carpet or something like hardwood whatever you want to do like there there's a it's gonna be cool once you finish it yeah it's gonna be a little bit has to go up that's priority one yeah but you can build like a true space where you got different kind of sets studio sets in many different locations. It'll be awesome. And that's what I currently do in the Blue Room, but it's like, I literally turn the camera because the

room is so small. Every house we saw, and we didn't mean to move, by the way. So I wanted to move next summer. My wife wanted to move right away. So we compromised and we're moving right away. And every room I saw

that I thought could be the prospective Blue Room, I was like, it just doesn't feel big enough and then i would come home to the blue room and be like oh jeez this is i always forget how tiny that room is it's 11 by 11 that's it 11 feet by 11 feet and it's flooded several times actually no it's 11 by 10 and it's flooded i mean let's think like are you so glad are you gonna do some sort of tribute to the blue room the og blue room what at my parents house well i guess that did you call it the blue room when it was your bedroom no but it was blue okay so the the first real blue room was this little setup that you had at

your house it was the first room that i owned it was all right and it was dedicated to your videos and beliefs and my bed wasn't in the back like let's talk about let's yeah yeah and there wasn't a a window shining light into the camera lens you're white blind yeah you'd white blinds and he'd shoot in the middle it was just this there's two windows in the new blue room uh one i'm getting blackout for and the other i'm literally going to cover with a wall smart smart because i don't need it can we talk about can we talk about the changes that you've undergone or that your channel has undergone in the 10 years in there because i can i got a couple things i want to prompt you on oh man i was looking up some old conversations yesterday

and i we're on a chat with um uh ourselves obviously and producer chris who was who predates jesse was here for about a year and a half and then jesse took it from there that's right and steve was hyper excited jesse about a video hyper pumped about this video do you know what you gotta remember the 13 14 lease were trash dave boland got off to a hot start got injured it was bad yeah and uh and steve was very excited because he had a video and this is i'm not making fun of you this is something to be quite proud of sounds just different in 36 hours you're like i just had a video hit 2500 views wow and you were like this is this is really good this is really really good wow and and you think about it now in 24 hours you can have a video go 60 70 000

or more something i've your standard goes up every time like i've never found a sweet spot yeah where you feel well you always want to improve but i just think it's cool to say in that time in that little room what you were able to accomplish and make a career out of is pretty spectacular and i think there should be some some some reverence for that thank you oh no i'm i'm very sad and the reason i posted that video when i did i've already taken two of the walls down i've already not the actual walls like all the stuff on it because i just want it to be uh easier to pack but i got i got three more trade trees i need to shoot in that room uh i don't think we will have started dang it's our hat picks by the time we move

and then uh i've left up the leaf wall because i'm anticipating some trades and i'm leaving it up in case i have to make lfrs because here's the handy thing that we've done uh we actually sold that house so it's going to stay in the family if i want to shoot videos in there i can because uh we've sold it to uh my brother and sister-in-law amazing and if for some reason something happens with the blue room to be i can just be like oh well and drive to oshawa and shoot the video and hopefully they don't mind me screaming i might have to shoot morning after videos for that maybe maybe i just think it's pretty neat i just think it's funny how yeah oh it's That room helped get me through the pandemic.

Like I basically took almost everything off the wall and redid it just for something to do. Like it's so slowly losing my mind. You know what sucked and I'm not going to do again. Uh, double-sided taped soundproof foam to the ceiling. That was not fun to take off. Well,

and guess what? It doesn't sound worse now that I've taken it off. That was just a, that was a physical manifestation of a mental breakdown. oh my god you don't need it i just want you to know too that when steve started in that room let's talk about your equipment just for a second what were you using uh i was so your stand for your camera was a shoebox on a table right a couple books a couple textbooks from ryerson couple textbooks no it was a canadian dictionary and a book of george carlin jokes there you go

and it was i believe it's called brain droppings and what kind of camera uh a canon rebel t3i and underneath so it's a it's a dslr camera and it's laying flat on a book there's no um tripod for it so it's laying flat on a book the lens though is not at the bottom of the camera it's not flush with the bottom right right so it would tilt down so to keep it from tilting down i put a pack of hockey cards under it a pack of about eight hockey cards and it was i can't believe they let me on tv with this shit and uh because when you did the tank video where you were saying the leaf should tank for matthews and kiprios called you a loser on hockey night in canada yeah that was your setup yeah that was uh yeah the tank that rolls across

the screen that was uh yeah i basically just moved it down the table and yeah the little white ikea table uh that we had uh now things have improved oh and the light was this little basically desk lamp pixar light um with printing paper over it's right it was the desk yeah and it was those like a ten dollar lamp and they heat they overheat and he taped paper to it got so hot And I was very not smart. I was unplugged, though. Oh, that's good. And your microphone setup?

Was the internal mic on the camera. That was it. It's amazing. No, professional, this guy. Really professional. It's okay. I improved a long time ago. What's that?

Oh, the beginning of last season. How the fuck do I have a mic? It took you 11 years. Like, no. 14 i'm sorry for 14 for me to get an editor yeah uh edited them all on my own in that room oh my god hours and hours i just think you know i look at that room every time i go to steve's house i like to look at i used to like to look at that room because it was um we drank in there well yeah we used to drink in there we used to it was fun it was and it's cool to see where he's doing

the rest of his stuff when i'm not working with you right and uh and that room it did have an energy to it that i think you have left in there uh and i'm gonna miss it yeah so i think whatever happens next is amazing but i thought it was there's a little bit of retrospective you got to kind of look back and go holy smokes there's been a lot in this room yeah i'm trying to not do that oh sorry no no no like when i'm there yeah i can do it with you it's fine but if i'm in there and i think too hard about it i start going yeah well we're very happy for you you take back the deal on the house yeah sorry guys i'm giving the house back i think christmas might be a little awkward yeah yeah we're still here um so congrats on the move thank you we're excited

to have you closer it's going to save you a lot of time getting here as well i can there's a bottleneck in whitby where there's traffic for no reason if there's a traffic because of an accident or something it goes down a lane yeah it's just bullshit and now every time i drive through it i just cackle i just go three more weeks i can't wait beautiful i can't wait i am gonna miss ashwa but i'll be back absolutely because the house is still in the family jesse do you have any more questions you want to ask or should we we're not done with steven dangle he also did something else uh to his body uh this summer steve do you want to show the camera your arm look into your soul oh yeah steve describe for the listening audience what is on the screen i got

i'm a really smart guy so i've never got a tattoo before so what i did was i got a huge one on one of the most painful areas of my body which is your inner bicep i got the uh i got a lion done by uh livia sang who i believe i've talked about on the show before so livia drew the felix potvin sketch oh yeah room yeah yeah like 12 years ago it's beautiful the the light looks amazing yeah so i wanted a lion and i got one and i've already booked my next sesh what are you gonna do now or are you gonna talk about it are you just gonna surprise everybody i don't know but i'm gonna do basically a half sleeve on my right arm maybe come up to the shoulder any barbed wire in there no okay dragons no barbed wire no dragons no hearts chinese characters you don't know the

meaning of arabic characters you don't know the meaning of no no characters i don't know the meaning of in any language okay no not none of that all right none of that but i'm now tattooed guy what about what do you what remember that guy who had what was that james cameron movie the alien avatar yeah what about some avatar faces oh there's a guy who had every avatar face on his back well you like the movie so much loyalty across why would you bone why that movie like it was a cool movie like it was cool but they get a tattoo yeah and all over your back that was the most successful movie ever to that date name a moment from that movie well there was some there was some uh alien sex alien sex alien sex and that's it it's just

because it was 3d and it was the first 3d movie and we're all like let's go see that and let's experience what that's like. Visually, it was neat. Visually, it was neat. How many 3D movies have you seen in the last five years? I don't even know. A lot. A lot?

Yeah, I've seen a lot, actually. I don't remember the last time I wore 3D glasses for a movie. I don't think they add that much, to be honest with you. No, they don't. There was one scene in Captain America 2 where he throws his shield, and I was like, oh, that was good use of 3D, and that was it.

Natalie and I took some edibles and went and saw james bond the most recent one because there was nothing else to do and this was i think like right off of the end of omicron so it was like this wasn't recently no it was like february or something like that and we and we watched it and uh it was pretty good in 3d it was or at least it felt like it was james bond in 3d yeah it was interesting the car scene where they're i don't know if you guys have seen it but there's a car scene where the car does like a 360 with machine guns it's kind of neat i was like you should check that out did you go whoa i did i was like well yeah you know you know yeah anyway yeah yeah i like a good movie i like

going to the theater yeah yeah anyway listen uh uh steve tatted moving things are happening full midlife crisis absolutely i can't wait next is gonna buy a car yeah i'm just yeah mazda 3 next model up oh shit you can get the winter package yeah maybe sorry sir that'll be a dollar more what um we're really uh uh you guys aren't gonna talk about mexico or greece i guess we could on the next episode we just talked for like two hours hour 40 in fuck it yeah we'll talk about it next time a lot there's a lot to talk and listen there probably isn't gonna be a lot of hockey news between then and now so i could tell you some of the funny stories then oh he just thursday fucked us thursday summer stories so yeah we do

some summer stories on thursday let's do it until then we just want to let you know that we love you and we are so happy to be back and this is going to be an exciting season this is the first quote unquote normal season we have had since 2018 2019 knock on wood assuming this desk is made out of wood i don't actually know if it is feels like it's like a yeah subwoofer guy what's what's it made of the Steve Dangle podcast

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