The Steve Dangle Podcast - Beauties | October 27, 2025

Episode Date: October 27, 2025

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, 00:00 Dave Roberts is upset with Canada 17:00 Leafs get 2 points in 2 game against Buffalo 48:45 The most impressive 34 performance 52:15 Utah is on fire 1:00:15 NHL suspends Mitch Love 1:03:30 Devils win 8 in a row 1:05:40 Rangers lose to Flames 1:11:30 Sharks OT thriller 1:14:30 TSN's James Duthie to talk about his new book "Certified Beauties: More of Hockey's Greatest Untold Stories," voicemails from Crosby, The Masters, and more! Join Drew & Stew Pick Em' to win a Kyler Murray jersey! ➡️ https://app.sparc.fun/point-spread/dspe Visit this episode's sponsors: Upgrade your wardrobe and save on @trueclassic at http://trueclassic.com/DANGLE ! Head to http://drinkag1.com/SDP to get a FREE Welcome Kit, including a bottle of Vitamin D and free AG1 Travel Packs, when you first subscribe! For all the odds, T’s and C’s, and to learn more visit ⁠https://betmgm.com/DANGLE⁠. 19+ to wager. Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Please play responsibly. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or someone close to you, please contact ConnexOntario at 1-866-531-2600 to speak to an advisor, free of charge. BetMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Donate to Steve's Easter Seals page: https://eastersealsontario.akaraisin.com/ui/lindros2025/p/078df4e3c0c444d59a551259d78a749e Donate to Adam's Easter Seals page: https://eastersealsontario.akaraisin.com/ui/lindros2025/p/12938347f56e4b2eab06c3a423a727f6 Donate to Jesse's Easter Seals page: https://eastersealsontario.akaraisin.com/ui/lindros2025/p/f58403a20caa4b47a17e19cf86c198d9 Check out https://sdpn.ca/events to see The Steve Dangle Podcast live! Subscribe to the sdpn YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@sdpn?sub_confirmation=1Join - SDP VIP: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0a0z05HiddEn7k6OGnDprg/join Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/thestevedanglepodcast Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sdpvip/subscribe - Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.BlakeJoin us on Discord: https://discord.com/invite/MtTmw9rrz7 For general inquiries email: [e-mail] Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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The James Duthie of TSN. Not some guy we pulled off the street who's also James Duthie. Imagine. Happens to be the first time I've ever met him. Have you guys ever met him before? Several times. Okay. Great.

When I hear just great guy. So I'm excited. This is going to be good. Just garbage human. If you want to see James Duthie and I at the same friggin' time, Kitchener Public Library. Oh, fuck. Wednesday.

We're going to be talking about his new book, Certified Beauties. Buddy, I love the KPL. Love the Kitchener. Love a good KPL time. Yeah, the Kitchener Public Library is actually, it slaps like it's super weird, but you're like walking in and you're like, this is the greatest venue I've ever been to. Because it's just sort of a nice library. And then there's this separate room where it's like, all right, Kitchener, you want

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It's an exciting week For baseball fans In this country And I wanted to start the show and i i know that uh cj and julian are like well we don't want to turn the hockey show into a baseball show i'm like no man yes you should i want to hear everything about what it was like being at those games but today i woke up to or actually last night i was awake for because i was recording nail on the apex at midnight um as you do uh well because tim was

tim had to get the airport it was in the mexico the time difference whatever anyway long story short um i am i i'm going to bed and i see this this clip of dave roberts la dodgers manager and i can't decide whether we're living in the dumbest timeline or if this is in reference to something else because listen i'll tell you something as a canadian one of the things you grow up with is when it comes to our american counterparts is you obviously know that they're bigger than us, right? They're 10 times our population. We have 40 million, they have 400 million. They are, we're used to the fact that there's an ego that comes with just being an American that most Americans have no idea even exists. They have no idea. But when you walk

around telling everybody you're the best country in the world, there's an ego with that. And I think we're fine with the ego. The ignorant stuff gets a little hard to deal with. And what I mean is last week when people came to the country we know it's not all of you stop yeah yeah stop it right now we're not talking about you stop the american media especially was like wow i had a caesar for the first first time well you've never had a bloody mary before uh it's canadian starbucks here's what's on the menu it's crazy it's the same as american star is it different it's not okay um but i i uh i love the fact that people are getting educated on it that makes me happy that's great i'm glad you enjoyed the our fine city and that sort of thing

dave roberts last night made a suggestion that perhaps the blue jays not only took control of game one but perhaps they took control of the borders of customs uh now i've got the clip jesse if you want to run it uh you can just read the quote the quote is uh oh i don't i actually don't have the quote uh i have the i only have the clip he said but essentially mark carney here you go you want me to play i'll play it i didn't have audio uh you know no i don't know um my connecting flight was delayed do you have a travel story for us as well uh you know i don't want to get too far into it i just arrived about 30 minutes ago so uh there were some delays um i don't know if there was intent or not but it just man the international stuff was a bear

but uh we made it we made it um i hope he's kidding so bad so the thing about intent is it seems in jest when you read it it's one thing when you hear it it's another yeah but the reason that there were delays is because the american government is in shutdown mode and they're having staffing shortages at lax on top of that meaning that every flight in lax was delayed and so he was delayed and i and and i think it was sort of like okay we've dealt with the thing for the like the last week from american media coming up here john hayman who lives in new york like being like i haven't been here since 1993 what it's a it's an hour flight man what's wrong with you um i want to know do you think he's suggesting that the toronto blue jays may have delayed his flight

uh it's way fun and it's also funny because if he does he doesn't know that to re-enter the united states you must go through american customs we don't control those customs so i don't know listen i don't know enough about this guy uh because i'm just a canadian and i don't know anything about baseball what's a strike um we just got new cars here yeah i just we just got cars here yeah um i i don't i don't know enough about this guy in particular but um in hockey like so we're coming from a hockey background all all the teams go to canada yeah frequently not all the baseball or basketball teams do and i could see how it would be a big pain in the ass like i mean all the teams in the al east and the al obviously have to deal with it all the time

but if you don't play the blue jays often what a pain in the ass right like i i was in the the reds dressing room um when i was an intern this is like 2009 ken griffey jr was there i was like holy shit um and they just start handing out forms all around the room and it was it was like custom forms and some of the players were like what the fuck what is this because you just you don't have to do it like how many times do the reds come to toronto in a year one series maybe so i is that it is that what's going on here well i just like forgot does that mean he's never left the united states well you never you never went to italy on a honeymoon like what if you went through a minor inconvenience once a year would you remember it like maybe you just forgot uh-huh i don't know

man i'm trying to throw in the bone that me too jesse hearing that what do you think i don't know I think Dave Roberts just needs to read his own news every now and again because that clip was recorded around 9 p.m. last night, and he said he got in like half an hour ago. At least that's when the clip was posted, right? So sometime on Sunday, he got in there. The Los Angeles Times, about an hour before that, wrote an article that says staffing issues trigger a temporary ground stop at LAX, where the Los Angeles Dodgers were flying from Toronto to LAX. and it's because of their own government that caused these problems and he's trying to turn it into a thing

where Canada stopped them from getting back into America. Doug Ford stopped him personally. He said with his ad, my friends, no folks. He says folks. No, he said folks. Everyone made fun of him for saying folks

and then he switched to my friends. And then he said, here's a dollar beer in an ad that costs $75 million. And everyone said, here's another majority. so like they literally had they've staffed staffing issues because of the american government and i understand what he's doing though because this we see this every single time in every single

series in professional sports ever you try and create an enemy you are trying to get your team together and rally together and link arms against the evil other side that we are trying to defeat and dave roberts spilling this narrative that we are the underdogs because canada is trying to keep us out of our own country it's just a way for him to get his team all around yeah in this david and goliath battle let's not forget who david is the los angeles dodgers i think it's idiotic for them to think this way but i understand what he's doing as a head coach on a plane sitting there with all his guys and they're just upset that they can't take off or whatever was happening was delay was you get up there and you say it's the darn blue jays that are stopping us from getting into our

country that's i guess a good head coach but dave roberts is also a whiny baby and he does this all the time he is a whiny baby right yeah he has been a whiny baby his entire tenure as los angeles dodgers head coach this isn't the first time he does these things but it's clearly something he does to try and get his team to have an enemy and get riled up one of the things i thought that might have confused him and americans again you're gonna love this because you you know when when we talk about a little bit of a little arrogance with the americans a few few years ago and i mean this two decades ago uh america called canada and said hey listen we got this great idea for customs instead of you flying all the way here and us denying you or accepting you how about we pre-check

you so when you fly out of pearson you got to go through american customs on canadian soil and if they reject you you don't get on the plane you're home right and so the canadian government's like yeah man whatever you want and so now we're the one of the only countries in the world that allows this uh because you know we're friends i don't know if we everybody's forgotten that but we are friends and uh maybe dave roberts got confused and thought that that was canadian customs checking him on the way out he clearly didn't know what was going on he clearly didn't know they had staffing issues he clearly didn't know that you're going through u.s customs he was clearly just trying to make up a narrative it's so so stupid i don't know i can't even summon the energy to

get mad at him we live in a post-truth world he can think whatever the hell he wants and good luck to him in his series against the cardinals i died he probably doesn't even know who he's playing i want to tell you guys i'm personally thrilled because if if he missed a detail that obvious you can be damn sure there's other details that he's missing no running his team No, you're jumping. Hot take here. You heard it here first. We've been hard on John Schneider for years in this town.

Maybe the guy we ought to be pointing the finger at is him. I think it's actually the complete opposite in that sometimes these guys who work in sports and are head coaches or athletes, they're so dialed into their sport that they have no idea what's going on inside in the regular universe. The most brilliant, detailed sports mind in the world has forgotten their Facebook password three times this month. Like, it's just how the world works. And what's weird is that it auto-populates. Sorry?

What's weird is that it auto-populates, too. Yeah. Still forgot it. Still forgot. No, it's... I badly want this to be real. I want it to be real. Sometimes life throws you curveballs,

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challenge yourself friends and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research together we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer register today at pmcfwalk.ca uh now uh let's talk a little bit about uh there's a couple of yeah there's a couple of teams i want to talk about utah a little bit later nah seven straight wins oh uh leafs split a home and home with buffalo and you know you could be you you you shouldn't be faulted for missing that you were probably watching jesse blake's uh baseball streams both nights no no they they did the right thing they pushed the game up on saturday they did they did i could not to tune into both could not believe how many people watched the saturday

leaf stream well you know why i think it was early yeah they did a great job it was cool that we were that we were sitting in there so we get to see it populate before we actually go live and producer hayden who was working with me we just sort of looked at the the audience numbers right before going live on oh boy it was a ghost town and uh it ended up being a party i don't like that adam you called it a split they they the second game was an ot right so buffalo walks away with three points three out of four yeah yeah well i meant just wins and losses but yes But I feel like we came out of that weekend. We're thinking, okay, at least they got that split there.

But Buffalo walking in with three or four points out of those two matchups was really good for them. Very good. And it's not great for the Leafs. I don't want to be down on the team because it's still early, but they need to start getting this thing going. That should have been them getting three or four points there. I'll give you a stat before we jump into this.

The Leafs, according to Jonas Siegel, are averaging 3.4 goals a game. They're averaging, giving up, 3.7. And, you know, if you noticed on Saturday, Anthony Stoller's was not even on the bench. Concerning. Well, I don't think that's concerning. It's more so he's pooped. And Dennis Hildeby was just sent down like a few minutes ago

before we started doing the show. But he was sitting on the bench. And I don't know why I missed that going into Saturday's game, but I did. I was like, oh, that's Dennis Hildeby. um i i wonder about uh with joseph wall coming back with the team feeling a little bit like it felt it's fault if it's felt off and part of this is something we talked about before the opening game which is you lost scott lawton why do you have to wreck all your other lines too i yes and with that you took the the opportunity you were going to give max domey to really get a run of

five or six games to start the season alongside austin matthews you you took him and you put him in a center position he was never going to succeed in never we saw it last year it didn't work well let's do it again because it's not going to work again it's and the problem now is that max is now not in much of a rhythm and so he looks like a guy who's fighting to find any spot on this roster if he was traded today i'd be joyous like he's been that he's been awful but but he's been in a different position every game i agree i yeah and what do they call those players if you want to be glass half full they're versatile if you want to be a pessimist about it they're a plug but steve if you're trading max dome you're not getting anything back yes like i don't feel like so good

yeah you're not improving your team by just getting i think i'm counting on him getting back to a 40 point guy i think that's what you're counting on that i would kill for that are you kidding he ends the season with 40 points yeah after the start he's had oh my god it would kill for that but there was so jesse i sent you a couple screen grabs and they're screen grabs right so they don't fully articulate everything that happened on a play um but the leafs d has been really bad and they've had a terrible time defending the rush and this one on the sabers first goal to me i was like yep okay there's there's their issue in a nutshell so jesse that's actually the second one can you go to the one where they're pointing yeah okay so adam

i need you to help me here because maybe i just have the wrong read of it the sabers are attacking three on three there's a trailer that would make it a four on three which you don't want to be outnumbered but it's not the end of the world benoit has a guy myers has a guy and he's pointing at tage thompson who has a stick in the air terrifying thing max domey also is pointing at tage thompson and is cutting towards tage thompson i think max domey's gonna get tage thompson guys let's go to the next one to find out if he did he is covering a ghost he's not covering shot he's not covering pass he's not covering man he's not covering a damn thing it's just tage thompson the world of space in front of him and one of the best goal scorers

in the sport and of course he scored of course he friggin scored there there there are performances like like like i'll give you austin matthews recently um i don't think he's been playing poorly but when matthews is on the ice you expect good things to happen and not enough good things are happening but i don't think bad things are happening necessarily when he's on the ice like you know turnovers odd man rush going the other way or he's coughing it up or what almost exclusively bad things are happening when domi's on the ice these days it's it's tough it's really tough but if you put a guy in a position constantly that's different every game oh they're putting him in a position to fail i agree but you know it's it's like

robertson like all right how do we get him in there how do we you know and they try to find places for him to succeed well right now he's on the top line with austin where he looked good he looked really good actually i was like hey what if they found something yeah hey that'd be awesome i would like that justin bourne was advocating for that and you know like sometimes these guys don't they just don't know how to play a depth role and there are there are nights where nick robertson tries to cosplay i am a bottom six player and sometimes it looks okay a lot of the time it looks exhausting and i don't want to see it anymore putting him on the top line even though he's not an everyday player bizarrely sort of kind of makes sense uh i think i kind of think the same

thing about Domi a little bit you can't be in your bottom six but even like during his brief appearances up there on the top line he didn't look good like it wasn't a mesh this season I he's got a very limited amount of time here to prove he can fit this team or he's potentially destined to a career what some guys make an incredible career off of being the guy who scores on a bad team uh-oh puts up points on a bad team um he's put up points on good teams before he's put up points on this team when they were pretty good looking um he's had two playoffs with the leafs i'm not sure he looked bad in either of them and he wasn't great in the panther series but you know looked all right against ottawa seven points in 13 playoff games last playoffs

like that's great yeah he steps it up year before four points in seven games and they'll get the dallas stars here man how many leafs had a better point per game in the playoffs than regular season over the last two years the list is short and has max both years Yep. Right. So I'm not overly eager to get rid of this player, but like I, what I've been doing is trying to grade on a curve with the Leafs. Cause I lost my mind after the cracking game, they got completely outclassed by New Jersey. It looked like they fumbled a couple of points against Buffalo in the first game. And then luckily they got a overtime squeaker there. So I'm like, okay, trying to evaluate who's having a good season,

like objectively good season. John Tavares, holy shit, what a horse. Man. Love him. Rockstar shit on that goal. Rockstar shit. Unbelievable. Nice.

Unreal. Think he's having a really, really, really good season. Save my favorite Leaf. How do you not know who his favorite Leaf is? Oh, William Nylander. man that was a that was a i wish you could have got a glimpse inside my brain there that was a master class in overthinking i was like mcmahon yeah the guy that wore the team sweden jersey to canada's first game in the four nations let's see yeah that that guy master class yeah yeah

william newlander say my second favorite leaf uh see i think that's john tavaris bobby mcmahon oh is it bobby mcmahon oh i just i want to give him some love because he's been unreal yeah he's very good he for me after john tavarez is the most impressive leaf this entire season now why is that give me that because he's i think we um the the amount that uh he struggled last year with not playing you know well he wasn't in the opening night line wasn't there he was injured so i don't know him this year season coming back fully healthy um playing every day you really see him excelling in a top six role i don't think there's any reason to remove him out of the top six he has a place there he's playing physical he's on the list for most improved oh yeah because

because of that yeah he's playing physical he's going to the net and he's scoring like it's it's unreal what he's being able to contribute to this team matthias michelli has been up and down mostly down he just had his best two or three games as a leaf dakota joshua has been up and down he just had his best back-to-back games as a leaf he scored in back-to-back games um i think nick waugh is coming into his own i like some of the things easton cowan's doing nick robertson finally got his first goal uh there's a lot to like about some of the individual seasons dakota joshua two goals two games yes that's what i said yeah that's what i said sorry that's okay i was digging up a lot of i was digging up a lot on the boil so yeah those are the leafs who were like

okay yeah got something there those good leaves and then the majority of the other side is very underwhelming their defensive structure is very poor but i i don't put a ton of it on the actual defenseman um i feel like when you're bad at defending the rush uh for there to be a rush to begin with i feel like at least one of your forwards got caught and two two of the sabers goals that ended up in the back of the net it was a miscommunication or whatever on that first goal with Domi and there's a screen in front a Bowen Byram floater for god's sake yeah but Primo who I thought had a solid game you can't see the damn thing also that is the Caden Primo experience right yeah we were not expecting Joseph Ball or Anthony Stoller's level out of him I mean there

was a reason he was on waivers if he was the tallest goalie in the league he wouldn't have been able to see that puck yeah but there was one where like his pad should have been the third the third one oh my god yeah i i don't think he saw it but he yeah that pad has to be down you got a real good point about the forward group not helping out defensively at all because i think like even more so them uh being caught getting uh on the on the rush and guys scoring that way they they allow so many rush chances but it starts with in the offensive zone they're not able to maintain pressure and keep that puck and they're getting beat the other ways because when they take shots it's one and done nobody in this four group is going in there and getting the shots after the

shot they don't park no they don't they don't park in front of the net like it's a lot of this flyby shit and like sometimes it'll be like park in front of the net shot it's behind the net and then you do all this work to go and get it you look at the front of the net the guy's gone yeah why why did you leave and so it feels like they're getting beat on both ends and it's just a constant circle of getting beat up and down so you enter the offensive zone you get one shot nobody's going to get the puck back so the other team takes it the other way and then you're being beat up the rush on the other side and then you come back to the same shit it's a bad cycle they're not playing confident at all like and it's i i think we might be barking up the right tree

with the LaLonde Lambert thank you change and I don't think it's that LaLonde's system sucks necessarily Detroit fans rolling their eyes it's a different role but it makes sense that that's probably the part of the Leafs that looks the worst and went through the most upheaval like it's it's a completely different thing back there Marner was a very important part of that um and the expectation too is that they're going to contribute offensively I think there's a little bit of that whereas Lane Lambert was like no you're just going to play defense I also think hey here's two guys that haven't played an NHL game this year let's put them on the same pairing in Mermin and Myers that was a disaster that what they got caved because they hadn't played a game

yeah what are we doing that was they weren't great i mean uh it's a rock and a hard place because tana van riley were out but that was hey you know what you got four other guys that have played nhl games this year i know and you know what myers did played with riley last year didn't look great but it certainly looked better than mermis myers yeah that was that was just really bad and i like mermis um wow bad awful bad and so so okay you know it seems like you know you You've injected, and we've talked about this, we've injected a lot into this roster. And what I mean by that is there's just a lot of new bodies,

new people, new systems, new coaches. You know, there's a lot of new. And more so than in years past. And I think in Jonas' article today with The Athletic, he was talking about the fact that, yeah, there's something about this. The Monday morning leaf report? I don't know if it's, is that what it is?

I don't even know. Every Monday. Must read. But he basically said, like, there's something. Oh, it is the Monday morning leaf report. Yeah, must. How dare you, Adam? I'm just pulling it up.

I didn't know that it had a brand name. Piece of crap. With respect to Jonas. Piece of crap, Adam Wilde. Piece of crap. Yeah. He said, yet, okay, he's like, the gold differentials are similar. The records are similar.

Adam Wilde is a piece of crap. He's still trying to do the segment. I know. I know. Sorry. Well, because it's actually like, you know, there are people listening to this. We do want to make sure that we get to what we're talking about. Nah, boo, nah, boo.

But, you know, you look at 22-23. Their record was 4-4-2 in October. 23-24, 5-3-1. Last year, 6-4-1. Right now, they're 4-4-1, and they got a couple more games before the month's up. He said, you know, is it the same, which a lot of people are putting out there?

And he said, yet something feels different, a little more precarious, a little more uncertain. And that's where I got the 3.4 goals per game, which is good, but 3.7 against, which is bad. The team save percentage through nine games is 873. That's horrible. Stoller's is one of the worst goalies in the NHL by goals saved above expected, which is not expected on account of he had a 925 two years ago and a 926 last year. I know they're playing the wheels off them.

I think that, I don't know, there might be something there. I think it's a little lazy. A lot of the stuff he's been, I mean, fuck. He's been their best player on so many nights already. and he's had a few games that weren't his best but like oh my god they're getting shelled with chances not shots chances 10 bell and i mean i don't know you can't turn water into wine man yeah and and you know when you've got uh guys uh going doing the human torpedo into his head uh nothing happening and nothing happening like that that's you know it's it's so funny

Leaf fans are such a funny group because we um we're like sky is falling but also it's fine and and you know it's not abnormal for fan bases to be divided against each other but I've been told it's fine for 10 years I think we talk to each other a lot yeah which is fine and I like the debates that's going on like I what I don't like is like everybody's saying this but I say this so I'm fucking better than you we actually won't know the answer to this until a few months from now but as it stands the reason jonas is referencing the fact that it feels precarious is because there's a huge change yes you lose mitch marner that is going to be a huge change and i am still of the opinion i think he wanted to go i think the leafs wanted to change it's

good for both sides outside of him they haven't they didn't really lose anyone they didn't know they didn't holmberg and patch already yeah like am i missing anyone and i think Hawk and Bob. That's right. One and a half games. Is Leafs career one of them? Two. Is it two?

Full two. How many minutes did he log as a Leaf? I don't know if we can count that next game. Adam, what's your bet? My bet is 35. So that's in two games? Yeah. So 17 minutes, roughly?

I think he's around 25, 26. Total? Total. Wow. Yeah, because he was a bottom pairing. And I don't think they used him that much. No, he played with Riley. I can't even remember the games he was in, Steve.

You know me. You know how good my memory is with that stuff. I have a vision of him in a white jersey. Yeah, no, I think I'm more along the lines of the one and a half game. So, game one, November 13th against Washington. A 4-3 win. Played 15 minutes and 36 seconds. On the road.

Had 22 shifts. game two november 16th 2024 a 4-3 win over edmonton 12 minutes and 34 seconds yeah because they were like we're not putting you on the ice total minutes last year for 1.5 million dollars 28 10 hell yeah adam was very close six giveaways madre de dios when we were down at sport check for the entire playoffs there was a big hawk and paw banner along with all the other like on those on the streetlights like i i still have that picture it's so fucking funny but i i i want to say that everything has looked weird and off yes and at a certain point they're gonna figure a lot of this stuff out and then the stuff that remains that

weird and off that's gonna be the the focus of the season what i like about this season as a content person is that we don't really know what that is yet in previous years we kind of knew the thing that scared us in the seattle game and following it against new jersey was the lack of perceived team cohesion maybe these guys like each other but do they stick up for each other and then against new jersey are they fast enough and berube was talking about well if they play the system properly they are fast enough it's just they're playing the system like shit so they look like shit and they look slow i gotta be honest what i saw against montreal specifically lane hudson and elise ford's trying to cover him maybe that's just the lane hudson experience but they

didn't have an answer and yeah but the second the puck was anywhere near the boards yeah thanks kid yeah a hundred percent they just took it uh but i'm just saying lane hudson open ice you're you know it's a problem that's why you try to keep them away from that and then when you have the we call it now the brandon carlo incident but it's more more than brandon carlo and what i saw what i did see this weekend that i liked anyone could have stepped up if they wanted was jake mccabe somehow hitting one he hit zach benson punched out alex no uh bowen byram oh bowen byram excuse me uh and punched out alex tuck and then somehow came away uh up two minutes on the power play which is nuts i i and you know what started all that yuri coolidge earlier in the

game producer hayden caught this he said something along the lines of you're gonna get it because what happened was they were in a battle in the corner coolidge is holding on to his stick and when mccabe yanks his stick away he accidentally high sticks coolidge in the face gets a penalty yeah an ill-gotten penalty and he's like all right sure enough i mean jake mccabe when he's out for blood will kill you lights bowen byram up i don't want to see bowen byram uh who has dealt with concussion issues get blown up it's a good hit it's a perfectly good hit tuck does what you're supposed to do he got his ass kicked but he does what you're what you're supposed to do and that's coming immediately and stick up for your guy and mccabe spun him around like pin the

tail on the donkey and wham oh my god and like you have to win that game like to me remember i was saying last Saturday I was like they need a moment to build from that game has to be it you have that moment from Jake McCabe you're losing in the third period you tie it it's a new guy who ties it two of the new guys score Robertson gets his first you're feeling all good about that you're shorthanded you don't have Willie you don't have Tanev and you win it with breakaway on home ice in overtime if that doesn't help turn your season around i'm not sure what will like it's it's got to be something you can ride for a little bit i thought you did a good job in the lfr pointing out too that they gave the belt to mccabe after the game it meant something

yeah it meant something and carlo was in the photo which i thought was very interesting you know probably overanalyzing that it's just defenseman hanging out with defenseman because riley's in there too but that was the moment of the game that the leafs obviously took away i'm curious who gave the belt to mccabe i could probably just look it up on the video but yeah i don't know i don't know if that's going to add to what you're saying here though because i think what why not overthink because i think this this is a leader which the team identified as a leader as soon as he got here and you know they really liked him signed him in the extension last year thank god they did because you imagine how expensive he'd be now uh-huh and he's going up against his former

team that team that drafted him that's right and he is saying this is how we're going to play now uh-huh this is how we will deal with these situations and i like that we want that that's why jake mccabe should be a hero among these fans if he keeps that that stuff up but what's going to be key to this is not just him doing it the rest of the team's got a sort of they don't have to they don't have to plow alex tuck's face every time but they do need to at some point have somebody that's not supposed to stick up for somebody that they need to well and like imagine if you're looking at this like well the decor is already shorthanded and him in the box for five minutes i don't know there's no time for that there's a guy coming at me with his gloves drop

pop just nail them for god's sake it's october establish a precedent that you are not to be fucked with and ideally the team follows suit you know like i've been advocating for for guys to you know dakota joshua's one if you're not gonna be doing that okay well how else are you contributing he's like well here's a game-tying goal for you oh well thank you very much Dakota Joshua even in the game that they lost we're down two all right well here's the goal to bring us within one for you well thank you very much Dakota Joshua I just need everyone to find a way to pull your weight and when you're struggling to find answers I think everyone playing together the way that their coaches design them to play I think that's way more difficult to

do and just laying a few frigging hits and occasionally telling someone to fuck off and beating them up it's hockey there's no shortage of guys who are willing to go you go someone do anything and they did anything and they did they at least did that well i think that the the real test for october is gonna be this week because obviously you give teams a little bit of time here but the way we view october will be mostly this last week i think it's it's tricky i also this is probably a lot more fans than the team like we always talk about distractions and the leafs and what is true and what isn't i mean there are there are fans at that game who i know didn't really want to be there like it like i was told like dude i have tickets to

this game and i'm dreading it because everyone's mind is on the blue jays right now and they do not give a shit about this team and the team hasn't given them a reason to give a shit either um the games are still on the schedule before we move on it's just one note from uh the best monday morning report ever which is the monday morning lease report by jonas seagull the greatest the greatest even though adam doesn't understand the branding i need that on a t-shirt jonas who's by uh jonas siegel as a reader of it every monday morning the thing that i wanted to point out was his little note on william nylander and his absence on saturday because that absence was so rare that the last time he could find that nylander missed a game due to injury and not illness like

he's been sick or a covid he missed a couple of those because he had covid was he's talking regular season regular season games only okay regular seasons was nearly 10 years ago wow yes i don't think a lot of people realize this but irelander over the last couple years has played 82 82 82 and then 81 because he missed a game due to illness and he's just been an iron man for this team so jonas wrote um the last i could only find one other regular season game that Nylander has missed an injury. That was almost 10 years ago on November 28, 2016, when he sat out against Washington. And that was the only game he missed in the 16-17 season. He played in 81. The following season, he suited up in all 82. The year after that, he played 54, following his

return from a lengthy contract dispute. And then he missed a couple games of COVID, and he's played 82-82-82. He's just there every day. And I think you don't get enough credit. Well, hockey players do get enough credit i think when it over time but in this market willie for the amount of shit he takes as a human just everybody thought he was a pest coming in you know swedish guy and he's always been the whipping boy for this this market and then he's turned that around the last like three seasons or so give him some more credit even for that iron man streak we we do sort of misuse the word toughness because durability

is a toughness. Durability is a skill. Yes, it is very, very, very hard to play consistently in this league. I think some people would make the argument, and this is

an unfair one, but I'm going to give it to you anyway. Go for it. The reason he's able to do that is he doesn't get involved physically. I'm going to say it you know you know it's gonna come up yeah he's the guy media members that will say that and not blink but he's the guy everyone's trying to hit and absorbing the hit yeah and like pushing powering through you as you're getting some skin on him and interfering and no that's that's that's so silly it is very silly i mean it's the kind of you didn't need to say yeah i did yeah i think it

was worth it i think it's a discussion there's people listening right now who believe you're like well what about this like it's listen we all try to come up with a reason for something we don't understand and that just sounds like people making shit up if you're on the ice for usually it's 20 minutes a night for four consecutive seasons 82 games well i shouldn't say four every season except one game in 2016-17 plus one game in 25-26 this past saturday that is impressive it is nhl ice everybody's out there being physical you can't hide for nearly a decade oh yes you can jesse he's swedish slippery swede no i always call him that then if that was the case pierre engvall would have the longest iron man streak in the history of time no the as mcgee

himself would would have the world's longest iron man street well he was crazy because he could go into a corner and be lined up for a hit and he would still spin it off and give up the puck you be like here you can take it it's yours just go into the corner with the force of a plastic shopping bag just that that katie perry do you ever feel like a plastic bag that's pierre engvall That's how I felt at the time. Isn't he out right now? Yes. Isn't he out long for surgery?

Yeah. He's got an ankle surgery. How did that happen? I don't know. Oh. Well, Nylander. He's out there not getting it. How is it possible he got injured?

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It's James Reimer. Austin Matthews. Oh, yeah. You got an old Steve. Kevin Gosman. Okay. Did Kevin Gosman, has Kevin Gosman put in

the single best playoff performance of anybody wearing the number 33 in Toronto history? 33. 30, 34. I meant 34. He wears 34. He doesn't wear 33.

What is your question? My question is, of all the people that have worn 34 for all the Toronto teams ever, has Kevin Gosman put in the best performance in any playoffs of a player? Who are the 34s that play for the Raptors? I don't know.

You didn't even do research on your own damn question. No, that's how this works. If you're going to ask a dumb question like that. Was Antonio Davis 34 or 33? I think he was 34. Elijah would have worn 34. I'm pretty sure. I don't think

he played a playoff game for the Raptors. Hey, how about this one? Charles Oakley. Oh, 99 to 2001, War 34. Those teams didn't make the playoffs. Yes, they did. Oh, 2001. That's what I'm talking about.

Sorry. Yeah, yeah. It's a good year. Carlos Rogers, Charles Oakley. Hey, Jonte Porter. Khalid Haim is getting there. Oh, shit. Hakeem Olajuwon, Robert Archibald, Aaron Williams, Aaron Gray, Greg Steimster.

I don't even know who that is. None of these people are real. Alfonso McKinney. I've heard of Alfonso. I remember him. And Jonte Porter. Who just wrecked a bunch of careers. Who infamously threw games for prop.

Most of those guys are rumors. I don't know who you're talking about. Okay. The fact that we didn't know their names right away. The winner is Jonte Porter. Easily. Oh, yeah. In the playoffs?

No, just in the greatest performance by a 34 is Jonte Porter. Oh, easily. He got banned from basketball. He did. He did. I just I saw the number Yeah you're right Jesse

They were like Biggest headline grabber Biggest international Headline grabber Is John Tate Porter You're right Okay so John Tate

Nobody did it bigger than Porter So who comes second And I'm talking about Playoff performance Jamie McCowan Went to the third round Yeah But Kevin Gosman

Is in the World Series They're in the World Series And he was Toe to toe with Yamamoto For six and a half innings He was really really That guy Until Jonas Brothers

Insane Yeah Jonas Brothers Fucking ruined that Yeah get out of my Baseball game They iced him yeah uh no uh gosman's the answer gosman is the answer yeah long and short of it yeah that i would like that to continue and then change yes i'd like that to be good for the

next couple of weeks and then in the spring i want matthews to go i'm going to one up that i'm taking my number back in a different year yes gosman can have 2025 yeah maybe someone else takes 2026 you mean 34 and 26 hey hey i don't understand hey because of the olympics and the playoffs oh is it is it matthew's year you know well hopefully only in the spring yeah hopefully fair enough i i'm sorry i had to ask that boneheaded question because i felt like it was coming um okay let's talk uh we're gonna bring james on here real quick but i want to talk about two stories uh first off utah mammoth who started the season one and two wow are now seven and oh in their last seven games.

And do we have a wagon? So here's the deal. Obviously, playing fantasy is the best for keeping track of the entire league because you're paying attention. It really is. J.J. Paterka, who was their big off-season get, had a lot of points this week and a lot of goals.

And thank God for that because Panarin and Matthews and Bouchard are sinking me. And Paterka has three goals, six assists, nine points in 10 games. He is only fifth on the team in scoring. Wow. Nick Schmaltz, 16 points. Clayton Keller, 12.

Genther, 11. Cooley, 11. Several of them, I believe, are tied for the lead in goals or second in goals. And Schmaltz, I think, is tied for the Art Ross right now. Nick Schmaltz of the Utah Mammoth. listen all of those guys are guys i knew who were good yeah i don't know waiting for them to break out though didn't we not like this do you think do you think matthias michelli was holding them back easily i mean that's the only thing i can deduce or no you know what don't don't was holding

back josh don't sorry it's like josh don't there you go i had to get rid of him it is a an extraordinarily talented roster but it's also sort of crazy that all of those guys the four or five guys that i mentioned there are all this good at once that's a that's crazy and by the way it's worth mentioning sergachev is six on the team with eight points in 10 games and you know dersey is out again unfortunately but with sergachev and dersey out the you know all of last year you didn't really get a sense of who they were on the back end wasn't marino out yeah as well like it's just a lot of injuries they had a hard time of it so they were they were when we were doing our previews really difficult to evaluate because you're like well they ought to be better but how

much better and they were i don't know it was difficult to be like yeah they're gonna make the playoffs for sure because like how the hell do you know you haven't even really seen them as they were constructed um it's early but holy shit that's a good looking team man it is kind of scary first in the division right now obviously when you're eight and two uh beat the jets last night and i thought that was a big test jets are a great team of course uh great regular season team especially they're going through everyone right now it's like and even a guy like logan cooley like i expect to have a really good career and be a huge factor i didn't expect the arrival to happen already now we have seen massive winning streaks in the last few years and i can't remember

who went on like a 10 game winning streak and then didn't even make the playoffs flyers was at the flyers yeah there's and like now i think there were a couple the wild went on one uh didn't the wild have like 15 or 20 games where they were basically undefeated or something like there was there was a game a few years ago where a team on a 12 game winning streak played a team on a 16 game winning streak one of them was minnesota i forget the other one so my question to the two of you is is this i'm not saying this pace necessarily but is this overall success sustainable do you because there's ones that I did not believe in Nashville being one of them and in the long term I was right they did make the playoffs but in the long term they've been bad what what do we

think about Utah can they because this is a team that never always kind of right maybe got young guys were excited about ah sometimes you're just incredibly hot and you ride it like like okay what evidence is there that nick schmaltz is a contending for the scoring title type of player there's not a ton right right so you know every year there's a guy and we go oh he's on pace to score 82 goals yeah he's on pace to score 164 points and obviously they never do it because that's frigging impossible yeah connor mcdavid and then you might um uh i think they're a very strong team i think they're gonna be right in there for the playoffs um obviously i would put their chances at above 50 now i would have said about 50 when the season began but for this to

continue a lot of things that are going perfectly have to go that way for several months and that's just not the way the sport works but i believe in magic jesse do you believe in this magic could they be the fun story of the year i see a lot of parallels between the utah mammoth and the montreal canadians who are currently leading the atlantic division there's two teams with good puck moving defensemen where you'd look down the center depth and you say it's a little light but those guys are terrific 1B all-star centers, you know? And then you got great stuff on the wings. Like, I think there's a lot of similarities,

and it shouldn't be surprising that two teams built in kind of the same ways are dominating early here. Check goalies. Check goalies. Yeah, hey. Getting good goaltending here early is very important, too. Like, I don't know. I think this might be a little sustainable for Utah,

and I can definitely see them making the playoffs at this point, just based on how they're playing right now. i'm i'm excited for the utah man you know bad teams don't usually go on runs in october you know like usually if you want like the sabers thing they do every year is we're gonna dominate from march through april and it's like those points don't matter but good teams they get off to hot starts and if they can sustain it through like december like they'll bank enough points where there'll be a playoff team can you bring up the standings from last season because because i want to point something out about how important points are early in the season like there's there's

process versus results right ideally you'd like to be playing well and have the results reflected it doesn't always work that way so to be in the second wild card in the east you had to be the The Habs were 40-31-11, so they had more losses than wins, but they're nine games above Bettman, 500. And then what do we have in the West? Oh, all right. In the West, we have the Blues, 44-30-8, so you're 14 games above Bettman, 500.

So Utah's already six games above, right? They're eight and two, you said? Mm-hmm. you don't have to play very far above 500 the the rest of the way to make it you know that's how important these games are you you can be a downright mediocre team for literally the rest of the year you had a hot first 10 games you can be barely above mediocre the whole rest of the way and still make it go just a bunch of six and fours yes yeah 100 100%.

Six, three, and one. Holy shit. Look at you hot as a pistol. It's like the Leafs when they started the season 10-0-0 back in like 93, 94. The rest of the season after that that no one talks about, they were extraordinarily mediocre. Because you're 10 games above 500 to start. And went all the way to the Western Conference Final.

You got 20 out of 20. All right. Take your foot off the gas. You don't have to floor it. Yeah. You know? Why are we trying our asses off right now? Yeah.

My back kind of hurts. I'm sore. Whatever. Save it. save it for the spring uh before we get to James Duthie one quick uh one quick note because obviously uh we got a great interview with him coming up so you can't cover everything in the show but it is worth mentioning that uh the NHL has suspended uh former Caps assistant coach Mitch Love uh for the remainder of the season he will be eligible to apply for reinstatement at the start

of the 26-27 season subject to certain conditions we don't know what those conditions are we don't know anything about the investigation, but we know that it had something to do with allegations of domestic violence in some sort of capacity. The Capitol said the organization is committed to maintaining the highest standards of conduct and accountability. Mitch Love had not been with the team dating back to development camp in July, although he had been on Carberry staff for two years uh and he was um interviewed for head coaching jobs uh before these allegations came up and he uh for his end vehemently denies it but said as he respects the nhl's decision and so that's where we stand this isn't the sort of decision you arrive at lightly um there's too

much speculation going on out there but this was uh well the the nhl shouldn't have done it how do you know based on what let's vibes this is not a vibes decision yeah like listen i'm not the most trusting person of the nhl and the people who run it but they don't do this sort of thing for nothing so let them cook one thing i think the nhl uh is not going to tolerate is any sort of risk you know i think after kyle beach the that situation i think things really changed and as much as you might be upset with the the the way that chicago was fined or what they were fined or how it was dealt with or whatever what's been incredibly clear since is everybody associated has had to you know apply for reinstatement uh you know do the do a whole bunch of like speaking

things and going to class and things like that i don't know in mitch love's situation what the particulars are but what i do know is the nhl has zero capacity for any sort of public pr risk here and so i think they they whatever it was this is the objectively smart thing to do right just say yeah that we're we're not gonna we'll have a look at this in a year and we'll talk they're being proactive i don't know the that's good to see yeah i don't know the legalities uh of all of it because like i don't know well they have the right to spend any when they want well yeah but But, like, if the reasons are not legitimate, wouldn't that person have every right to be like,

well, I'm suing you? Yeah, and you'll never work in the league again. That is true. And so that is why I think in that particular instance, you would probably never see somebody do that. And, you know, I don't know where this goes, but I do think it's good to see. I just want to leave it at this

because I don't like speculating on stuff like this. I think it's good to see the league being proactive and I have to people like well you never compliment the league actually I will uh that is that is the right thing to do there's three things because we do have a couple minutes oh we do okay I thought we had no time there's three uh things that happened over the weekend that I think just need some love one New Jersey Devils eight wins in a row man fuck them they're one of those came against these fuck them Adam's right yeah no they're uh they're great they're great they're great what a wagon wagon yeah um i still i i don't know i stand by my washington pick for the metro just because people got

so mean about it but um the devils were a bit of a show me team um because again i really like the construction of that team but a lot of it was in theory because they hadn't all played together at the same time now they are oh shit like you're all in a lot of trouble they're extremely good yeah a lot of jack hughes love going on right now i can see a situation where jack hughes wins the heart trophy this season because devils win that division he has a million points he has a million moments like he had over the weekend uh against the abs which are like if you want a test of how good you are right now that's a good team to face and they showed up and they won that game um adam what are your thoughts on steve calling them a show me team what are your thoughts on the rogers

service show me uh uh 250 million dollars in write-offs once they shut it down yeah it's the worst name and probably the worst uh subscription service ever posited to the canadian public it's like hey you guys can get hey you know what you can get with this modern family what else can we get nothing how do you screw up a streaming service well i and they were a bit ahead of the game too they didn't but they didn't have an app and they called it show me s-h-o-m-i nobody got it like what are you doing that's that to me is that show me service was a like that's a marketing meeting where a bunch of over marketers were like oh well we gotta feel techie with it right we gotta do bold colors right purple yeah and then they made it more expensive than crave

And Crave, at that point, was $4.99 a month. And Crave is... Has HBO. Good. Yeah. Crazy, huh? A second thing over the weekend, the movable force met the stoppable object, and the Calgary Flames played the New York Rangers. And the Calgary Flames whooped the New York Rangers' butt.

Man! And I have yet to see the Rangers look like a good team in the last two weeks. Yeah. Maybe you shouldn't have blown up everything because people were fighting in the locker room. Yeah, thanks, Rangers, for warming up the coldest team in the NHL right before they play the Leafs. Thanks for nothing, you big-punch jerks. Also, they're in trouble.

Yeah. I think it's officially, for them, it's trouble season. Well, it's because of last season, right? Yes, exactly. No BS, a new captain, and JT Miller's already like, okay, now I'm mad. And you show up in Calgary, and you lay the— To the Flames, you can't score!

They're the worst team in the NHL. Like, right now, and you lay an egg. Hey, you know what else is crazy? five goals by calgary rasmus anderson on my fantasy team no points ah the fuck man isn't that the worst that's the fucking worst that's what everybody's i'm trading rasmus anderson all right this team can't score and even when they do score he can't i think coming off of that performance that we talked about last episode where they admitted we didn't show up early enough yes we took the san jose sharks lightly and we lost the game and then you go and you face an

even worse team in the standings a team that's even playing worse than the sharks and there again you get beat yes every team wants to face the rangers right now because if you're struggling you're gonna get going against the rangers and it's disgusting yep yep agreed jesse uh i'm trying to see uh who leads them in scoring and i want to see how horrific the number is uh adam fox leads them in scoring with seven points in 10 games which is good news that's good for him their leading uh forward is our timmy panarin who is playmaker first difficult to be a playmaker on a team that doesn't score two goals five assists seven points in a contract year just on my fantasy team money incinerator and you got adam good for you uh i'm gonna keep bringing it

up until you start scoring fucking mad no you're right you're right and their leading goal scorers taylor radish as we all expected ugly who and everyone's like oh yeah look at him go like those four goals are all he's got that's not a good thing no if taylor radish is leading your team in scoring and he's not this isn't like juniors or something then that's a bad thing remember what the game we were talking about i think was three or four games then it was like oh sam carrick had a great game for the rangers yeah like sam that's a bad thing yeah okay alexi lafreniere oh ah yeah in 10 games this is shocking stuff in 10 games one goal two assists for three points four penalty minutes minus 10

minus 10 minus 10 there's two guys who are minus four two guys who are minus five uh Zibanejad is minus eight, which is also bad. Minus 10. Like, he's so much worse than even his peers. Wow. What a bummer. Like, he was a rock star in the playoffs a couple years ago. I loved watching him play.

Last season rolls around, and I'm like, there's my breakout player right there. It's not even a choice. He was so good. he's gonna ride that and he's been a ghost uh jesse yeah how long do we give lafreniere before we have the conversation oh my like what 2020 draft is the one he was drafted first overall it's uh let me just check the calendar 2025 it's beyond time to have that like slivkovsky has at least established himself as a very good first line player yeah yeah no it's a good line if

you're expecting him to be the first overall pick and be in the conversations with those other guys who are selected for us overall that's out the window like i think we all know that you got to redo your expectations on him and now it's like okay just be a solid top six player and that sort of thing you're not some superstar talent like that's that's long gone here let me throw this at you so looking at the 2020 draft alexi lafreniere or quentin byfield i'll take byfield yeah lafreniere or tim stutzler oh don't think too hard why i would take oh my god i take stutzler Yeah, but then I've got to deal with having Tim Stutzla on my team. Yeah, but he's on your team.

Nah, that's true. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm just being mean to Ottawa. Lafreniere or Lucas Raymond? I'll give you Raymond all day. Lafreniere or Jake Sanderson? Sanderson.

Okay, now we have our first one. Lafreniere or Jamie Drysdale? Definitely Lafreniere. Yeah. Alexander Holtz, Jack Quinn. Yeah, yeah. Now... Michael Medulla was in that draft, wasn't he?

Lafreniere... Yeah, but he's way down. Lafreniere or Marco Rossi? I'll probably still take Lafreniere. I would take Rossi. It's a conversation. It's close. Lafreniere or...

I don't think we need to do the whole first round. No. Three more. Trust me. Trust me. Trust me. Trust me. Trust me.

Cole Perfetti? Yeah. I'd take Cole Perfetti. Lafreniere or Yaroslav Askarov? Lafreniere. Askarov's not established. He hasn't done anything. No, but it's a conversation.

He hasn't done anything. Anton Lindell? No. Seth Jarvis Seth Jarvis probably should have went like third yeah guys are rock star

wow he's having a great season did you have one more to go yes last thing yes I did we got Dylan Holloway who went 21st

would you rather oh god guys Jesus can we please move on Igor Chinnikov last thing because this is also a Sharks podcast

the San Jose Sharks had the most remarkable OT performance in the history of time so they blew a lead They're the Sharks. Expected a blow lead. They were up 5-3 on the Minnesota Wild.

They allowed two third-period goals. They get to overtime. Macklin Celebrini ends up with a hat trick on the OT winner. But the thing that led to the OT winner with Macklin Celebrini was Timothy Lilligren, Alexander Wenberg, and William Eklund being out there for the entire 3-47 up until Celebrini hit the ice. They were pinned. And I don't think they touched the puck if you watch that whole three minutes. They didn't touch the puck once. And they were able to not allow a goal in that OT.

Celebrina comes off the bench. First shot. Nailed goal. Sharks win. Great win for them. Celebrina's got six goals. He looks like he's arrived as one of the best players in the league already. Great win for the Sharks in OT there.

What an effort by Lilligren, Wenberg, and Askarov in goal there. And who was the third? Eklund. Did you see Lilligren set up Michael Mises' first career NHL goal? Yes. What a play. Well, the stats guys were right. What a play from Timoth.

I also want to throw out there, do you know what that led to for the Wild side? What's that? All the captains and Bill Guerin met yesterday, like in person. Slow start. Slow start for the Wild. I thought that loss, that's a pretty big stamp on the Wild. That sucks.

they just spent a lot of money to be better than this yeah that's a tough one all right so with that let's bring on for the very first time in steve dangle podcast history mr james duffy you've heard us talk about ag1 before uh you're gonna have to listen to it again because it's the greatest or maybe not or maybe you haven't maybe this is your first time hearing us talk about the benefits of ag1 it's gonna be your first episode no maybe welcome to the world of ag1 now here's the deal ag1 is is a green juice supplement it says you put it you drink it jesse you shake it up in the morning yeah yeah why do you like it so much um i like it at first thing in the morning as the first thing i drink even before the coffee you know and then it just

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day every day now until december 31st at participating a and w locations in ontario certified beauties more of hockey's greatest untold stories by one james sir james duffy uh of ontario james listen i can't find my camera this is tv which is my this is a red light that goes yeah there's no there's no red light so you're number one where's my tally light where's my tally light james we got to say listen uh you're probably sick of hearing this stuff uh but we have watched you since you started uh when you were doing like sports center stuff like that adam's trying to call you old i'm trying to say no inspirational is that i would before i could remember yeah and it's so it's an honor white days it's an honor to have you in you know

my tube television with antennas um no it's it's it's amazing and i think uh you're a canadian treasure and this is the follow-up to another book that you wrote a few years ago so can we talk a little bit about like some of the names on the back of this of great stories that you have can you talk a little bit about how this project sort of came together uh and then we're gonna ask you a bunch of other stuff too but i just i got this is like if the forward is by sydney crosby yeah yeah yeah like come on now i will say i look i don't want to it's not like sydney crosby sat down at his typewriter certified beauties a forward by sydney crosby he actually this and this is funny so Sid was in the first book and I'm so thankful for all the guys who like it you

know what it's like trying to get guests and it's hard to get guys and for something a project like this you need to get a guy kind of for an hour alone not like five minutes after the rink after a game or after practice at the rink and so when Sidney agreed to be in the first book and he ends up in like two or three chapters uh I never I ended up interviewing him uh in Pittsburgh but that was sort of a tv thing where we i showed him the chapters and we went over the chapters to make sure everything was kosher but i never interviewed him for the book he would send me voice memos so i he would be on the road like on on the team bus and be like hey hey james i thought of another story for you and then he'd tell the story on the voice memo and just send me the voice memo

and so with with the forward to this book once uh i spoke to him and he agreed to do the forward he did a similar thing he did like a 10 minute voice memo and i i just typed it out and you know uh added a few words when sentences weren't complete or whatever like that but uh yeah it was super super super kind of him to do it i just i first up i i love that you say that you know we have to work hard to get guests we don't get them here uh we're the we're the ignored uh ugly stepchild of toronto media or canadian media so we don't get a lot of these guests so um i gotta ask because we we had this conversation i think late last season guys what's sydney crosby like because we don't know a whole heck of a lot about him outside of the ring well look first of all

this is one of my pet peeves when like reporters say guys are jerks or whatever because i don't think we know anything about them from post-game scrums or whatever a guy might not treat you right or might not like a question you ask but you really know have any idea what he's like away and i'll i'm i don't pretend to be close friends with sydney crosby i've obviously i've interviewed him at tons of times over the years and had conversations with him but i don't hang out and go fishing with him and out in halifax and his cottage or anything like that but i would say i think he's truly exactly what he appears to be one of the single nicest guys in hockey there's a story in one of my other books and he probably and the the thing is he never wanted this to get

out but the guy who makes my suits for tsn uh is a guy named dom in montreal who also happens to make sydney's suits and there's a story in a couple books this kid jonathan pitcher who had this rare horrible skin disease we did a documentary on him some of your listeners might have we You remember that, yep. The Butterfly Child. When he was invited to present at the NHL Awards a few years before he passed away, and Sidney called my guy Dom

and got him to make him a suit because all Jonathan ever wanted was to look like a real hockey player growing up. And Sidney read that and went and had him make the custom suit for Jonathan so he could wear a thing. Wow. And again, without telling any,

it was only Dom, the suit guy, who told me this. You know, it wasn't... He didn't want that to get to you. kind of stuff that he does you know behind the scenes all the time so i think he's uh he's one of the favorite people that i've met in my whatever 30 plus years of doing this stuff that's great yeah yeah so yeah good but that's the and that's the thing about hockey there's a lot of guys like that and one of the things i one of the many reasons i did this book was you know we say hockey players are boring which they are in intermission interviews which you know we're guilty of running

all the time and mostly they suck right but you kind of do it because you might get one out of 20 where a guy says something good so you have to run them but if you get them away from the rink you know in a setting where you're having a beer or something they all have stories because i don't know i just think hockey as a sport is one of the great story generating sports because of its gladiator nature and the way the stuff that happens away from the rink and because the season's so long so my my philosophy has always been like every guy in the league even if they're the most boring guy in the league has probably two or three amazing stories and i only need one for these books so that's what you do was there anyone who you talked to who kind of took you down a path you

didn't expect at all like you thought it was gonna be really funny and you know maybe it was it took a serious turn or the opposite you you know they're robocop and and and they just break into some sort of story yeah uh i'm trying to think of one example because the one thing that's interesting when you write the book is i don't know what stories i'm gonna get that's not 100 true because sometimes I'll like a lot of the generating stories for the books are I talk to one guy and he says hey you got to talk to this guy because this guy's got a story for you I was at the masters last year and I was almost done the book and Graham DeLette says to me you got to talk to Ray Whitney and I'm like why he goes well he's got a crazy story about shitting his

pants during a game which is you know so this is the level this is the highbrow content that you get in certified beauties but i have to say i was intrigued because i do like i do like i like to be surprised as a reader and i like there to be completely immature stupid content like that and then on the next page i have a very serious story like i think that story comes maybe a chapter after there's a story about daryl sittler and borya salming who were weren't really great friends when they played together but became best friends after they retired and so when I called Daryl to get a story to your question you know I thought it would be some funny story and he wanted to tell the story of how close he and Borya became after they retired and then that whole experience

of getting Borya to the hall of fame weekend you know basically two weeks before he passed and everything that went into that and how much that moment meant to Daryl and so on so there yeah There's an example where, you know, I thought I might get something, some goofy Ty Domi story, and I get Daryl pouring his heart and soul out about how much he loved Boria. Jess? Yeah, the emotional side of these guys is just something that you don't get in the scrums. You don't get from hockey players at all. I assume talking to them, they kind of, this is their opportunity to express something that they don't get to do in their normal media with the Leafs or with the media. So I assume some of them are just thankful for the opportunity to talk to you

and share these sorts of stories. Yeah, I think in some cases, yes. I'm thinking of one from the first book where I approached Matty Nickel, who's a famous trainer, right, who trains a lot of the guys with Gary Roberts. And I just happened to run into him, I think, at Grey Cup because he was working with the Ticats and just told him I was doing a book. And he told me a story about Ray Emery. And, you know, I knew Ray but didn't know him super well.

You know how tough he was and everything. but this was this was a story about you know Ray's and he was Maddie was telling me how when Ray had the hip thing like he was done like he was done like there was no way he was coming back nobody comes back from that and the surgery and just the way he rehabbed him and how Ray didn't talk to him for the first three months and Maddie thought he hated him but then once he let him in he was like the greatest friend he ever had in his life right so things like that where I get those are my favorite parts Jesse where I get surprised about a guy you know to to another side of them um but yeah it's really it you're right it's i think guys do like the they get so

sick of those you can see it in like austin matthews eyes yeah no i'm standing there am i annoying you right now right yes the answer is yes so i feel like your book is an outlet for a lot of these guys where it's like i can sit down have a long-form conversation and actually show the world who i am right i think that's why the book's so cool but yeah i gotta say james you To add to Jesse's point there, I think there's only a particular type of person who could pull this off. And you're going to hate where I'm going with this because I can already tell we've just met, but I know you're going to hate this. I have to compliment you, and I think that's why you're going to hate it. You don't have to.

Because your ability as a host to bring out the best, whether it's a panel or an interview or in a TV is really about moments, right? It's about things that you can hang on to. And, you know, I'm going to I'm just going to give people an example. So James signed the book that he brought for all of us. And my specific I hope you don't mind me reading this is Adam. My wife always used to listen to you on Kiss and loved you. Please don't take her for me. She's all I have.

Thanks so much for having me. And you do an awesome job. But that's true. That's that's actually a plea. It's not anything heartfelt. What your ability to instantly warm people up to a subject and instantly warm up to that subject, that's two things at once, is what's so, I think, incredible about your career and what you're able to do with those TSN panels, be it hockey or the Masters. And I know Jesse's got questions about that. This book doesn't happen if you don't have those skills.

and I'm wondering has that always been a feature of your life people is that's just something that people have always sort of opened up to you or is that something you developed over you know many many years working in this industry no I like I don't think I have any particular talent at it I think maybe maybe there's a little bit of trust trust factor that I've been doing it so long that I don't you know haven't burned anybody that maybe they trust me and they know what's going in a book and the other thing is I'm pretty look there's no there's no gotchas in these books uh you know connor bedard or uh matthew kachuk or uh macklin celebrini i'm just looking at the name connor mcdavid because i don't remember it connor mcdavid's not going to pick up this book

and go damn him right uh because for the most part too when they tell me a story sometimes the stories are like about like there's a great mcdavid dry saddle story in here but it's not their story i have and i never talked to either one of them about it it's a story uh that i and you get them from different sources so my my daughter's boyfriend plays in this beer league in new market that is a really good beer league he plays for nipissing university and so there's a lot of prospects in this beer league and in the chapter the book is about him playing against mcdavid and dry sidle uh in a beer league quarterfinal and like for the for this beer league team then they were out like they're playing the quarterfinals they knew you know if you've seen

this probably on bar down and stuff that mcdavid shows up at this beer league once every few years but in this case it was last summer and mcdavid had just gotten married in fact it was the tuesday after he'd gotten married and these guys are having literally a beer in the parking lot before their quarterfinal of beer league and they're talking about do you think there's any chance mcdavid shows because this team is mcdavid's old buddies right from new market and they're like he won't show he just got married and then the suv pulls into the parking lot and mcdavid gets out and they're like oh crap and then the passenger door opens and dry saddle gets out and they're like oh god wow right and so it tells the story and the the goalie's the other half of the story

the goalie you know a typical beer league their goalie didn't show up that night so they had to call their other goalie who was at another rink just getting off the ice from a three-hour skate and he picks up his phone and is like oh i can't i gotta go play holy crap it's mcdavid and dry saddle right uh so i don't know where i went on this but i think i think it's bringing the story Yeah. Sorry. And so I didn't, you know, that happened to just get lucky as I, you know, it happened to be my daughter's boyfriend that was on this team. But I think the fact that it's a book too, it makes it different for guys than, you know, than somebody asking them a question in a scrum. I do feel there is an attachment to a book of, you know, I'm not going to blow up what

this book is, but it is lasts forever and it's history. So they will maybe feel more comfortable in telling me things uh brady kachuk told me a story that i i was shocked he told me about uh it's the first chapter of the book and one of my favorite ones is i don't i don't never know how much to give away although i was just in ottawa and people were telling the entire story on the radio but basically he thought claude geroux had played a prank on him and so to get even he went and uh grabbed a hacksaw and cut a bunch of geroux sticks i'm not smart enough to know this but there's a part on the shaft if you cut like a millimeter into it will basically snap it destroy the stick so as soon as you take a shot it will snap so his idea was that Claude will go out and

practice snap four sticks in a row have a little you know freak out because Claude has a temper everybody will laugh end of story but Claude must have grabbed a different stick for practice Brady forgot about it and the next day they were playing the St. Louis Blues in an NHL game oh no And on a power play in the first period, Giroux snaps a bunch of sticks. Oh my God. This is in an NHL game. And the funny thing was Brady didn't clue in

until Giroux for some reason was, Braden Shen was on the other team, they're old buddies, and Giroux in his mind thought maybe Braden Shen had messed with his sticks and started F-ing him from the bench. And when Kachuk heard that, he's like, oh my god he's using these sticks in in in a game and ran to the trainer and said get rid of these

sticks and uh there's a lot more detail of the story in the book but i was like you know it does kind of look doesn't look great that a prank ended up almost now brady played as guilty as you could ever play guilty in a game and the sins won like eight to one okay good all right good so clude clode forgives him but there are stories like that where i'm like wow i can't believe you're actually telling me this to yeah right but that's that is the kind of story when he told me i'm like that is exactly why i wrote this book to to you know get stories that hopefully take people behind the curtain for things that they wouldn't otherwise never hear and you you didn't blow the whole story there and i'm not going to do it either it's reveal after reveal there's some twists some

plot twists in this one yeah yeah that one's really good it's great that you got the modern guys to get attached to this too because usually these books when they're written it's everybody from the 60s and the 70s and the 80s but that Claude Giroux on the Senators is very recent that's happening right now and I really wanted to do that I did that in the last book but I wanted to do it more in this book because you're right and hockey I think hockey definitely has changed you guys know that the greatest stories usually seem to come from you know the 70s and the 80s when they they went out all night on the road and now mostly they they sit in their rooms and play video games right and so maybe that was a little bit of my concern that maybe I won't be able to

get the same level of stories just because of this generation but I wanted to get you know the the Macklin Celebrini's and uh you know the younger stars that are still in this game today and like I said I think my theory holds true that usually you can get at least one great story from a guy and it's not all pranks right I tell them you could tell me about your the greatest game you ever played in uh you know even if it was in peewee i don't care it doesn't have to be the nhl just uh it can be about anything and when you have give them an open canvas like that they usually have a couple things to tell you it's it's subjective but what what makes you look at a person and say that guy's a beauty what what is a beauty to you not the definition just

what are they to you i mean i think i just stole it from uh and i didn't have it called when i was writing the first book i think it was called hockey's greatest untold stories which is the sort of byline here but i thought that was a horrible name for a book and i realized in listening to the tapes of all the interviews that in every interview somebody was saying oh you got you know darcy hordachuk that guy's a beauty and paul bissonette that guy's a beauty and todd simpson that guy's a beauty and on and on and on and so i figured that was the good so i just think it's I know that's a wide scoping definition it can apply to a lot of things I think for the most part it applies in hockey to a guy who's just an absolute an utter character right although it

can be a guy who's maybe not a character and is just like pours heart and soul into maybe isn't the greatest player but blocks 15 shots a game I think it's a kind of a wide definition Steve but For the most part, I think in this book, it's guys who, if you sat down at a bar with them, could entertain you for about four hours with, you know, wild stories about, you know, the way they played the game, the way they acted around the game. I'm definitely not a beauty, by the way. if this helps you with the definition i just i don't think that i like when i compare myself and my little sheltered terrible boring life to what these guys do and have have done in their lives uh uh yeah i don't think i qualify i i don't know i think you sound like a guy in the middle of a book tour i had to do that last year and it was difficult man they're weird they're

definitely weird uh you know it's it's first of all I only went to one book signing in my life I was 10 years old my dad took me to this Tony Gabriel who was a tight end for the Ottawa Rough Riders wrote a book called Double Trouble and I went to Saint Laurent Shopping Center in Gloucester and got the book signed for me and I remember there was like only two people there and I'm in my world Tony Gabriel was the greatest athlete in the world and now you know I experience that sometimes no people are great when they show up but uh they say funny things to you i has had a guy the other day i was doing a signing and the guy said oh man you're you look you look much better in person man you're you're better looking in person and i that's a nice compliment but then

i thought to myself how hideous am i on television like do i make people turn away and go oh good god i can't look at him anymore yes had that we had that yeah uh many a time yeah i had somebody actually come up to me in a bar where steve was steve was there this uh and grabbed my stomach and said you know like i'm starting to notice on television because i was doing bt at the time and then i was like jesus dude he's like yeah you have a beer you do a great job and then he grabbed your stomach he goes this has to go yeah that's right steve wasn't your costco book signing where nobody came because you need a costco membership to get inside yeah everyone's like i can't go to i did two costco signings which is why i haven't done a third costco signing and this guy in an

la king's jacket comes up to me and identifies himself as tyler toffoli's dad and we spoke for five minutes because no one else was there and then i go uh hey do you want a book and he goes oh no uh thanks i'm good yeah and it walks away i've had a few of those i had one the other day where you know there was a like a decent amount of people at the beginning but it doesn't take that long to sign and so it clears out and you're supposed to be there for an hour and a half or something so it gets a little thin and this guy walked into the store and he's like whoa james nothing man i've watched you forever this is awesome oh you got another book out wow beauties i love hockey stories this is amazing and then the the girl from indigo sit next to me he's like

how much and she goes whatever 27.95 or whatever it is 32.95 and he goes whoa i'm gonna have to pass i love you but not that much i mean i love you man but 28 28 bucks i ain't doing that that's already the cost of my subscription every month jesse i know you gotta ask yeah you got a big question you got you've done the sports thing that i want to do at least one point in my life and that's go to the masters right and not only have you gone to the masters you've hosted the masters right the tsn coverage and all that what is that like is it truly as magical as it seems in the aura that they give it i just need to know everything about yeah it's it's probably when people ask me my favorite assignment it's really hard to pick because I'm lucky enough to do a

bunch of really cool things I always kind of dabble between the world juniors which I love every year uh and and the masters and it's hard to pick like it's like picking your your favorite child which I have one but I can't say it publicly yeah but uh that's fair no uh so I I Jesse it's like it's it's time to work because we're there like 8 a.m till 10 p.m every night but it's like this little piece of heaven it's the only i always say it's one of the few places in the world that usually you go to place and you've seen a million pictures on instagram or whatever and it it's hard to meet expectations right masters is the one thing if you talk to anybody who's gone there that somehow surpasses expectations it's just this little perfect

place and even behind the scenes everything is perfect like there's not a you know a piece of straw in the ground or a piece of garbage anywhere it's it's funny the first time i went in 2002 i'll try not to make this too long i know you guys know no no but you actually got to get back to the things you're supposed to talk about but uh i had always envisioned augusta national as this golf course in the middle of sort of the country that you would drive down this winding country lane with georgia pines and all of a sudden you'd be at you know magnolia lane and augusta national well augusta national is off the seediest crappiest american street in the world like there's a hooters basically uh maybe the hooters is closed now but there's a hooters like a one 330 yard drive from

the uh uh from the driving range essentially and so the first morning when i was driving there in 2002 and i was so excited and we turn onto this strip and there's literally at the hooters there's a hooters girl in her hooters get up with a hula hoop and she's spinning the hula hoop on the side of the road going come on in for our master's hooters special and i'm like this is not what i envisioned as a young child going to augusta national and then like literally a block later you turn on to magnolia lane right but lately augusta national is like built buying up the whole town so it's i think a lot of those things are sort of disappearing but it's a it's a special special special place and never ever gets old bob weeks so i get to work with that it's been to like

about 30 of them and he feels the same way i do you get that same buzz when we show up on monday morning every single year so get your year you can sleep on our couch if you can find your way to get a and the other thing i tell people get a practice round pass because once the tournament starts it's kind of hard to see there's no you can't bring your phone there's no electronic scoreboard so if you're trying to watch you know tiger woods or scotty sheffield you're 10 people deep and you kind of see the top of his hat but if you want to practice round you can bring your camera so you can actually get pictures and memories it's a little less crowded than there you can see all the players play so and i think the practice round passes are probably easier to

get get to than the rounds passes so go to a practice round i've always just appreciated the extent they go to keep that magic too like the underground tunnels they've built just not transport all the food and also you don't see it so everything's pristine yeah it's uh it's it's like the truman show yeah in a way yeah just everything there is this alternate universe that only exists in this few mile space in augusta georgia so it's really weird what's the best item on the menu oh i don't know like week c and graham to let eat these uh pimento cheese sandwiches but i find them horrendous i'm i'm the egg salad is very good the other thing is cj always says the egg you can't bring your own food in there you're not so usually i load up on protein bars and stuff

when i'm going to do a five-hour show and you can't so you literally eat there there's like a chicken salad and an egg salad and i'll eat 40 of them during during the week you have no and if you get caught smuggling food in there it's like smuggling if you have your phone in there they will escort you out yeah yeah immediately right well i of course of course you know i the other thing i think i want to i hope you don't let me ask a question oh follow it up follow up have you played it you've played it right yes oh come on are you serious so this is like okay the biggest db move i pull i love golf right it's my other thing that i do uh uh i i golf like i'm not great at it but i'm i love it so much and if i ever get you know paired up with a couple of randos

playing golf uh this is what i always do i always go you know we're walking down like the fourth fairway and i'm like so what's it what's like the favorite course you guys ever played and they'll be like oh you know i played wooden sticks or uh you know tpc or something or some some some guy might name somewhere down in carolina and inevitably they'll go what about you and i go augusta national it's just it's such a jerk move uh for your listeners there is a draw every year yes for the media and about 20 guys get to play on the monday and so the morning after somebody wins the masters you get to play with sunday sunday pin placements and everything and you play from the the members tees which is pretty much where tiger would have won from say in 97

when he first won um but you know because of technology some of the holes they're moved like 100 and 150 yards back but it's very playable actually it's very open i was just nervous as all heck yeah when i played i won the year that danny willett won so i mean eight or nine years ago and i also i got to the i'll tell my quick master story i'm sorry if you've heard this but everybody else leaves my crew leaves we rent a house we don't buy a house like you guys we rent a house and uh and uh everybody's left in the morning and you get this little beautiful pass it says show up at magnolia lane at like 8 30 a.m or whatever and back then i wasn't as crazy about golf so i put away my clubs in october and i just pulled them off my shelf and brought them

to augusta in the chance that i win the draw so i opened my bag i'm waiting for my cab to come and there's i have one ball in my bag i'm like oh my god i have one ball i'm going to augusta national so i asked the cab driver could you just take me to is there a golf store open they're like no the only thing's open is walmart and at walmart all they had was this was only kind of an inside golf thing but they only had was top flight hot xls which are not like known as you find a free one they're not a good golf ball sorry top flight and so i showed up at augusta national with a dozen top flight hot xls and then you get to the range and they have all these pro v's with augusta national logos on them whoa and you have all the caddies are standing there waiting in their whites

wherever you take your spot on the range that's your caddy and i sort of said to the caddy hey i got a bit of a ball situation here and the caddy kind of rolled his eyes and turned his back to me knowing that i would pile like 20 of these augusta balls in but it truly was one of the most special four hours of my life just because i growing up in ottawa i never thought i would ever get to the masters let alone stand and and play on the masters so it was pretty surreal unbelievable well i i gotta i i i am gonna veer off the masters i apologize but i took too much no it's magic i love your listeners who hate golf no no um but that's i mean that is why we love sports right it's it's it's moments like

that and and i think you know one of the things that i have to say about you and the team that you work with and the team that you've you've worked with over the years is to a person uh at least it's filtered back to us um everybody has the same sort of attitude that you do cj chris johnson always says it's the best team he's ever worked on um i know from i know from you know when I was in radio college for a year before I dropped out because I was already on the radio, that people interviewed you for their school projects. And they talked about how great you were. They talked about how great Jay Onright was.

You know, Bob McKenzie behind the scenes reached out to us out of the blue for no reason other than to say, hi, and I think you guys are doing a great job. And we almost fell out of our chairs. There's just something about that group, that culture at TSN that you guys seem to really take care of each other um there's also seems to be a lot of camaraderie you can see it come out in like you know the trade deadline show and and and free agency and that sort of thing what do you attribute that to why is you know tsn is such a huge part of how a lot of us grew up and how we're still growing up i'm trying to what do you attribute that to uh i think the way you said it

without being hokey it is it is people and i don't know how you know our bosses have been able to do over the years but we've been able to attract and keep good people right even when times have sucked you know when we lost the rights uh uh we've been able to keep those people and that's not just the guys you see on the panel but like the producers behind the scenes you know steve dryden this guy worked his ass off on hockey for forever he's still the quiz master he's semi retired now and you know mike lane who is our producer and bill dots and jeff model i'm gonna i sit here now i sound like i'm doing an oscar speech um but literally the camera people the producers the it's i've whenever someone's asked asked me why i love working that place it's

because you got really good people who aren't just good at what they do but they're nice you know you want to work with nice people too right yeah and you know we back to the golfing i'm golfing with randall's everybody will say so you know who are the assholes at tsn right and i can't i can't there aren't any and i'm not just saying that because i work for the company like everybody i could go through every on-air person one by one at tsn and say that like they're truly really nice nice people i can't not think of a dick they're all beauties yeah they are and and that's what makes it that's what makes it a great place that's why i've stayed there for almost 30 years now and uh that's why we you know i think we've

survived in pretty tough time for media that's i don't know why everyone wants to know the answer to that but when i was at sports night what's up with kipper yeah what's what's that what's that kiprios's deal i'm like well he called me a loser on tv once but i like him very much yeah you know yeah yeah nick's great yeah it's great he's what one of the best guests we ever had probably just behind james just by and by the way bob bobby mac wasn't blowing smoke because i've i didn't get to play with him this year but i play a lot of golf with bobby and sean mckenzie and i remember having a conversation a couple years ago where both mckenzie's were saying that uh you know dangle's the probably the most talented guy out there in sports media right now and what they're doing is

like kind of the future of no they were they were both going on about what you were doing and your you guys network and everything and how it was kind of taken over the world so and i'm not blowing smoke because i said that's bullshit i he is not more talented than me how could you say that The book is called Certified Beauties, More of Hockey's Greatest Untold Stories. James Duffy, and let me just drop this name again, forward by Sidney Crosby via voice memo, which I think is fantastic.

And I think that adds an extra little bit to it. James, it's been a real pleasure to meet you, to interview you. Please don't be a stranger because as far as we're concerned, you're a national treasure and you are welcome here anytime. Oh, thank you guys so much for having me.

And I'm going to move in to this room. There's room. I live up in Aurora, so I'm not close enough to work. So the fact that this is an actual apartment, is there an actual bed in here if I wanted to stay? There's a couch. Or like crash if I had a bad night down there? There's a couch underneath a mural of us.

You're welcome. No, thanks so much for having me on, guys. You do an awesome job. The Steve Dangle Podcast. Follow the guys on Twitter at Steve underscore Dangle at Adam W-Y-L-D-E and at Jesse Blake. Connection complete.

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