The Steve Dangle Podcast - BRRAAAD | January 19, 2024

Episode Date: January 19, 2024

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coming up for all-star weekend friday february 2nd saturday february 3rd the sdpn all-star takeover we're gonna have live shows from the sdp chris johnson agent provocateur and an sdpn all-stars panel that's going to include uh a lot of familiar names and we're sort of like i don't know if i'm allowed to say them should i say them i think we're should i say them because i know who's going to be on it but should i say it i don't even know who for what well yell down the hall no uh oh yeah you say no no okay all right so basically um we here's the first one okay so the first sdbn all-star takeover is going to be from three to six uh at the rec room and i a lot of people went to the rec room uh for our one show there that

one time with puck talks which is awesome yeah that was 2018 2018 it was the last game of the year because i remember i ducked out of there to go to the montreal canadians game that's right um because i'm you know big haves fan yeah um but but this is going to be a major and very exciting thing so three to six on the friday and then saturday uh we've got our all-star takeover day to same place 255 bremner avenue the rec room um and that will be from 12 until 2 because obviously the all-star game happens at 2 so we're going to do it before the skills competition so you come down you have a drink you hang with us eat a little bit then you then if you want to you can mosey on over and that's a great thing see the skills competition in the all-star game or you

can just hang with us and watch yeah or like if we do a bad first half of the show you're like this is boring go play some video games yeah that's right and also we're going to do a little laughter party from 7 30 to 10 at isabel's so uh that's 5 48 king street west music drinks good times it's an all-star party and for the parents in the audience it's it's 7 30 to 10 you could stay after though yeah so no there's no uh there's no bassinets no there is no uh kitty dig no but i figured it was be it would be a long day for anybody that's like been to the all-star game or was watching it and then whatever so we we wanted to party with you so we're going to do all that stuff if you need information where do you go go to the description of what you're

listening to or watching right now but jesse where's that the the podcast app that you're watching or listening to are you sure go to the description there are links to everything you need there oh jesse in english jesse slow it down what are you talking about take any information is there we're so looking forward to seeing you and there will be special guests and we're very excited about that no we're not no we don't like i might not go um yeah listen so uh that's a lie by the way that's sharpened for this weekend uh do you have your skates i thought you said seat and i'm like no i've never heard of that in my life if your skates sharpened uh no because the last time i sharpened them i found it actually much more difficult to skate so i like my skates the way

they are nice doll yeah yeah when you're when your ankle strength isn't like you know when you haven't been playing for weeks and weeks and weeks all right kiss my ass well yeah yeah so when you sharpen your skates and your ankles are not as strong as they would have been had you been playing all the time because you guys used to play like once a week right you're not doing that we still do uh we got hockey tonight yeah there's been uh yeah that's right it's there's been some disruption because of the the weather and holidays and everything oh okay no no you know what it was is i didn't sharpen my skates for what i think might have been two years oh and then i sharpened them and got on the ice and went what the fuck is that yeah well again because because once you get

because when you're a kid your ankles are not are never that strong so then you get to the point where you're like oh i have to put my whole body into it and then you prefer sharpened skates but when you're like a little bit i haven't skated in a few months it's yeah it's a little bit weird skating straight ahead became much easier and much faster stopping became impossible yeah where you like catch an edge and fall over yourself i like a nicely sharpened skate i don't know what you guys are talking about yeah how's that ankle fantastic yeah yeah yeah it's recovered very before you wrecked it no no i don't know i think those are on dull skates actually oh that was in like november so i'm with you jesse i like a sharp skate yeah i like a sharpened skate

yeah we talk about steven strengthen those ankles yeah steve take playing tips from me kids i'm real good at ice hockey um so the toronto maple leafs are not the top story today hooray good good the edmonton oilers are i'm why how come the edmonton oilers have won 12 straight games and they beat seattle to do it who has also been maybe the second hottest team in the league which by the way i'm feeling so much better second or third it's such a garbage start and i was all the way on the seattle bandwagon to start the year and i was like don't do this to me man yeah it was a battle just be you a battle of two teams who just decided uh actually we don't know how to play hockey for about a month and a half yeah and then went dad just kidding we do like just out of

nowhere unexplainable that seattle might be more confusing because they didn't change anything but they just started playing better by the way it was the battle of also two yeah two hot teams yes but two coaches that look identical have you ever seen dave haxall and chris knobloch in the same room well last night was the first time you did and yeah they look exactly the same i never made that connect they're the same guy i'm not even like it's almost like if you watch the last jedi where they had that terrible scene where luke is a hologram or whatever it is um that that is what it last night felt like that's for my star wars fans how about that terrible scene where they go ah he's back the whole movie the whole last trilogy is just you think dave hackstall and

chris knobloch look the same yes they do yes are you pulling them up yeah give me okay okay well So we'll tap dance for a little bit while Jesse's pulling that up. You're telling me they couldn't be brothers or cousins or something? Come on. Here's what I love about the Knobloch Oilers. First off, I love saying the name Knobloch again. It's a very satisfying name. It's great.

He really fills the void left by Chuck. Exactly. The second thing is he goes afterwards. They win their 12 games, and he just basically says, listen, if we lose a couple, we're out of the playoff picture. We win a couple, we're talking about home ice advantage. like the edmonton oilers have the mindset and the execution what did they do what did they do to get here first though let's go to jesse over a side by side let's go back all right so this is chris

knoblock this is dave haxtell stop stop they could easily be related yeah easily oh yeah easily okay which is which i'm seeing double four crusties the only way that you can tell the difference is that uh one parts their hair on the left side and one parts their hair on the right side that's the only way you know that's frustrating i think their eye color is the same i'm pretty sure they both have blue eyes yeah yeah yeah it's not the exact it's pretty similar it is weird the ears are a little different that's about a little steve i mean that's just one picture is just at a different angle yeah no i think the ears are the same ears are pretty much the same and look they're both wearing blazers with a dress shirt okay

well that's a hockey thing but i thank you what i loved about chris knobloch after the game is he gets on the he gets at the podium and he's like we're we're like this is where we're at we lose a couple games we're out we win a couple we're talking about home ice advantage and the edmonton oilers might just fuck around and win this this division what i tell what i what i tell you i wouldn't write them off i i just refused to do it even though all the evidence was screaming dead in my face that this team sucked they were they were there was a crazy stat i saw i can't remember after how many games but they had five points in the standings and they were tied with the sharks which was wild on account of the sharks didn't win their first 11 games yes how at any point

this season where the oilers ever tied with them after the first week and it was over a month into the season, something like that. Yep. And now the Edmonton Oilers have more than double the points that the Sharks do. They can't lose. So maybe we need to start asking what happened with the Sharks. Go to the league standings. Why couldn't they do it? Go to the league standings.

I want to know, are there teams in the NHL, I think the answer is yes, who don't even have 12 wins? The San Jose Sharks are the only team without 12 wins. Golly! I just think you'll find it funny, too. The Leafs have played two more games and are only one point up in the Oilers. Damn it.

yeah like that's nuts and it's not like like okay i've been down on them this week they had a losing streak just now but it's not like since the oilers were bad the leafs have been bad yeah like just consistently the whole time it's just you can move up the standings rather quickly when you just simply don't lose it's a great strategy yeah i wish more teams tried it well i hit what simply winning um win you know i think that what the oilers have done and this is where i pause to go to the more important factor which is how much hackstall and knoblock look alike uh the what have the oilers done uh well they could score a bunch of goals they always could score a bunch of goals that's great okay different coach what they did was they played to their strength scoring a bunch

of goals managed the weakness which is their defense they couldn't keep deploying darnell nurse and evan bouchard that way they were getting eaten alive their points were always there yeah of course like but bouchard is is another level but they all they had to do was play their game the thing that's made them successful the last couple of years and it it it actually strikes me as like i don't expect anybody have seen this show but there's a there's a show called showtime on hbo max or crave depending upon what country you're in and it's about the lakers dynasty yes and it is so good and one of the coaches basically tries to institute a system that in theory will work and they and the lakers are like this is they've just come off a championship and they're

like this is terrible we can't play like this he ends up getting fired who takes over pat riley um yeah never heard of him or pretty good coach but what's interesting about it is that the coach that instituted that system then took it to the ncaa and became the coach of the highest scoring teams in ncaa history so i'm not even going to say that jay woodcroft was wrong in his system but he might have been wrong in this system for this team and which happens all the time absolutely and i and we talked about uh on the last episode what are the oilers at in terms of uh goals per game uh oh it was like a hair under five no or no it was dead four dead four and guess what they scored last night was it four four goals unreal they're scoring for a game you want to beat the

oilers you got to score five that's really hard that is the best defense is a good offense and there was always going to be regression with the Oilers I didn't know it would be this hard they're scoring everything and the like by American Thanksgiving the prospect of Stuart Skinner having a save percentage that started with a nine seemed ludicrous and he's already there like it's it's difficult to point to an aspect of this team that's not to like I I know there's like you know you prefer this guy in that line and i know a lot of fans are still dismayed with connor brown and everything they're winning they're winning they're winning how do you nitpick a team that's won 12 straight that's awesome man very difficult it's and who on earth wants to play

them nobody and and and this is what's great about this too is it's allowing their defense to settle in and become what they are their defense is never going to be otherworldly it's going to be fine if they play their positions properly their goaltender too has finally had a minute to sit and not take 40 shots a game and stewart skinner's numbers he's got a nine in front of his safe percentage yeah can't believe that good for him the way it started like when campbell was sent down uh skinner had the worst save percentage it was like eight six something it was completely wild like there was always going to be a regression but this is i mean watching him he was bad like it wasn't just oh pucks happened to find a way by him it's like yeah because you're translucent

yeah they went through him like a ghost yeah and now uh can i now like they need they can win a cup of league average goaltending can i ask you guys something nhl.com it's your job i don't want to i don't want to i don't want to turn it into a complaint session because we already know it's but when you go through the categories in nhl.com you know say like games played wins losses you can sort from best to worst or worst to best right yes when you get over past differential you can't sort best home record so you can't sort best away record it's because you're on uh standings right yeah yeah if you go to their stats page i think you can okay yeah they have the status available on the stand yeah they have different like pages for stats and oh for teams oh i see like team stats

pages it's stupid what if you made it available in both places no the it should be sortable on any chart form and here's my issue with it jesse is that on the stats page it doesn't show you their last 10 i would like to sort by who has the best last 10 it's ridiculous i will say uh nhl's um their historical stuff like their all-time statistics are actually pretty that's great i didn't ask about that no i know i know i'm just i'm grading on a curve i don't give a shit about one thing that compliment sandwich one thing that really scares me about the oilers like steve are saying that you can't nitpick anything uh about them because they're on a 12 game win streak and i think that's so true like how are you gonna say anything negative about a team that's won 12 games

in a row and like you look at some of their numbers and i'm like it could get better oh yeah because right now they sit in in five on five so like take out take away their power play which hasn't been like the best if you look at their their five on four numbers they're kind of like ninth tenth there and goals for in terms of all situations i think they are their ninth right now if you go to five on five goals for they sit 12th in the entire league that's not great if you go to their expected goals for at five on five they're in a new category above first they are just so far ahead of every single nhl team they have 106 point something expected goals for at five on five the next closest at uh for colorado i think they just crossed 100 like they're in the 90s for most

of the season so they're just so far above everybody at five on five it's been ridiculous no and and you know you're you're talking about they could get better like it wouldn't they don't need to go out and get matias at home they already got him um so first of all there's proof of concept that they actually can go out there and make a trade that'll help their team and like what do they need to go out there and get like would the oilers be an improved team with like ilia labushkin and like i think i think his name is alexei toropchenko from the blues is that is that who they're targeting he's he's like a big bottom six guy okay he's like but he's it feels like this year's barbershop all right barbershop's better yeah you know what i'm saying like yes no no i

understand what you're saying um like they really need to tinker that's that's about it and like depth would be nice maybe a backup goal would be nice but not a you're not breaking the bank not breaking the bank at all no yeah this is fan it's it's a great it's a great thing for the oil is a great thing for the league um and the other raid the sharks what's that raid the sharks yeah there's enough teams i think that are going to be sellers that there's something out there to get you know uh expected goals against as well loyalers lead like on both sides of the expected goals at five on five they are number one florida second but 75 expected goals against for five on five the entire season like crazy yeah we're they have connor mcdavid who's shooting the lights out

again they have leanne dry sidle who's shooting the lights out again and this guy who's on pace for somewhere between 50 and 60 goals you guessed it zach hyman like anytime you have a three-headed monster like that you're simply not gonna lose a big old bunch of games and bouchard i wonder uh i wonder if by the end of the season i don't know if he's there now but i wonder if by the end of the season evan bouchard works his way into the norris conversation i mean works his way how dare you jesse did a video you did i did yeah oh is that where you got that little idea from steve i got it no i got it from being an evan bouchard fantasy holder oh i didn't just make a video and you retweeted it and all of a sudden you're like oh somebody had this crazy idea that's

originally mine no take it this is mine i think i was first yeah no i didn't say it on the show no i didn't well then that it doesn't exist yes it doesn't exist yeah no on on my youtube channel which you can follow right now um i made the case that evan bouchard should at least be third in the norse conversation i think kale mccarr and quinn hughes are just so far ahead of him right now that he wouldn't jump into the top two but third he's right there in terms of points points uh per game uh power play points i believe he's just behind kale mccarr his defensive numbers aren't the greatest in terms of giveaways but takeaways he's right there so like there's a serious case that evan bouchard should be third in norse trophy voting depends on if you want to

go with noah dobson or evan bouchard for that spot i'd be first of all dobson's ridiculous i go to dobson but i it's not because i hate bouchard it's one a and one b i think in terms of the three four i i want to i want to know what the splits for bouchard would be defensively between woodcroft and knoblock this year um no he's a much improved player and like when we ripped him earlier this season i don't regret it he deserved it we watched several plays where he was i mean i'd love to call him a cardio merchant it didn't look like he elevated his heart rate bent his knees or played hockey at all um still put up points but in the defensive zone he was completely useless um he's been a marquee player and producer drew always gets pissed about this

sort of stuff because he's like kill my car's the best play he's the best defenseman of the league how dare you say that's not what the norris is the norris is not uh who is the best defenseman it's who's the best defenseman this year yes yes and consistently yeah right yeah you're in you're out i think it's kel mccarr no question you're in you're out every year can be adam fox sometimes yeah some no that means two okay you know what i mean like no mccarr is where the conversation begins every year and then you play the games to figure it out from there he's number one but other guys can sneak in there and oh his defensive metrics aren't the greatest let me show you a guy named eric carlson who won his last year that was a whole other thing that needs to be debated as we

get like enough time from that season you know about like did he actually deserve it because he just put up all these points i don't know i think a lot of people are like oh there should be an offensive defenseman award and defensive defenseman award i think the defensive defenseman award would be the most annoying thing on the planet i think there are a hundred percent should be a defensive defenseman award yes but there's a defensive forward award yeah yeah i don't i don't understand why you can't show that other side of the game like the selkie like i yeah that's a great argument yeah it's the only argument yeah it's such it's perfect logic yeah like why are we doing that for forward steve's right in the sense that i know where

you're going with this is that people don't know what a good defensive defenseman often is especially the people that vote on it. It traditionally like usually we'd have like it'd be like, oh, this it's Adam foot again and Adam foot again. And it's like, well, no, actually, are you going to look dive deep into the numbers and vote properly? Yeah. Stay off.

Stay off of Twitter like the day after they hand out that award. Like that'll be the most. Where do you get your numbers, Jesse? Anyway, it's just here's a big fella who hangs out in front of the net. Yeah. You know, every year it's going to a big fella. Derek Anglin in front of the. Yeah, man.

Like, yeah. Back when he was a defenseman. Yes. Then became a forward and then a defenseman. Like, I think it would be tremendously annoying as a voting process. But you're right. There does deserve to be that. What would you call it, Jesse?

The Evan Bouchard Memorial. Oh, you want to go? I thought you were going to call it the MasterCard. The Defensive David Kompf Award. You can't name it after a forward. No, the Defensive David Kompf Award. Whoever's the Defensive David Kompf gets the award. my guess is the the push from the old guard would be the larry robinson award that's a great one

doug harvey even because he was actually the defenseman defensive defensive larry presented by harvey's you probably do like the bob yore is the um the offensive defenseman and they do larry robinson the defensive defenseman and then the best overall best overall listen i'm all for more awards and and i'm always that type of person like i don't care that much i don't care that much but it's fun to talk about now the nfl does uh best offensive player of the year because the mvp has just become the quarterback award this is like who's the best quarterback so they have this offensive player of the year and that usually goes to like christian mccaffrey the best running back or best wide receivers i like that i like that a lot let's break it up a

little larry robinson has uh one of the most unbreakable records in in hockey um so five players have ever gotten a career plus 500 or better bobby clark at 507 wayne gretzky at 520 ray bork at 527 bobby or at 582 larry robinson 722 plus plus 722 in uh 1384 that's bonkers that's that's almost a thousand points so maybe defensive defenseman is out the window yeah maybe we uh maybe we'll go back and talk to Jeff Merrick and see who it actually should be we'll figure it out Serge Savard maybe we'll we'll we'll figure it out that's he's one of the most dominant players of all time those Montreal Canadiens numbers from the 70s like look up Ken Dryden's goaltending stats they're so ridiculous like it's not fair what about the

Larry Robinson plus minus award I awarded every year to the player with the best plus minus plus minus is such a bad stat though and i do bring it up from time to time because when it gets goofy you're like well there might actually be a problem here but it is such a it is such a a stat from a bygone era right it it doesn't say much like you could be a really good player on the ducks and we say this with advanced stats too right you know like you could be a really good player but you're on the ducks and you're getting caved right like it's not it's not that's not a fair representation of how and so as bad as you can be you can also be fake good we we call that the uh we call that the john gibson what's oh yeah yeah no i don't care he's good i know he's been on a bad team

for half a decade he's good and people will be like maybe the team would be better if he was better whoa position in the sport whoa no you know what i've watched mackenzie blackwood make 50 saves he's yeah mackenzie blackwood should be a goalie that people are after yeah get ready for puck drop at bet mgm the official sports betting partner of your nhl can you believe that good for them i believe it they're a rather large company i know but i just think that's cool from game winning goals to spectacular saves bet mgm gives you the chance to take those highlight reel nhl plays to a whole new level at mgm has something special for every hockey fan jesse yes when you go online this weekend and you're betting on something at bet

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very quickly about elvis merzlikens saga going on in columbus asked for a trade from the columbus blue jackets and the problem is that even if they wanted to trade them it doesn't look like they can because nobody's interested now is elvis merzlikens and the reason i bring this up is we talk about john gibson part of john gibson is like well he makes 6.4 it's three more years he's an older guy there is some injury history and is he good we don't know the ducks have been bad for so long it's hard to tell right uh but we have seen players leave the ducks at least skaters leave the ducks and oh wow they're not so bad simo benoit yes not so bad right um i'm wondering the same thing about mers lincoln's is this i mean clearly the columbus blue jackets are not

a well-run franchise i'm not no i am not um from top to bottom i people were talking about pascal vincent like he was the guy like he was like we've been waiting for this guy to find a job and so far popular he's done a terrible job and it doesn't listen it's three or four months into his career but look at the columbus blue jackets line choices they may not all be pascal vincent but unfortunately all i know is that pascal vincent is the guy setting the lines and they're not looking great i think it's pretty obvious what the blue jackets are doing what are they doing well they hired mike babcock because they're like we want a hard ass and then too hard of an ass so okay let's bring in pascal vincent and tell him to be a hard ass yep and he's healthy scratching

guys and guys are getting sent down and you're getting moved to the wing and ah it's all just deck chairs like i don't love his coaching decisions this year but like there's no combination that would make that team any good right there is talent on that team though there's talent so if there was something to do you play to whatever strength you think the team might have remember what jason york said about the sends being young up the middle the blue jackets are simply bad they're nothing up the middle like yeah it's just they don't have guys they're ted johnson up the middle they're like okay if you go johnson fantelli jenner even that is still real green oh yeah lots of potential there but real real i mean but they they like pascal

the other day one of the big things was Boone Jenner came back so they moved Adam Fantilli to to the wing which I think people overreacted to like it's not unusual for a young center to play wing sometimes I think Quinton Byfield's doing it right now isn't he who Quinton Byfield yeah but Fantilli and Byfield I think are are different I think that's apples and oranges and not because Byfield's not great I think you look at Byfield it's probably just a winger from now on yeah he might just be a winger austin matthews has been couldn't win a face-off in his first year he did have two other centers on the team that were older and had been there but uh but he scored a bunch of goals and made a bunch of defensive mistakes and uh you know and and the leafs were

like well he's gonna be a center so we're gonna have to deal with the warts adam fantilli is a third overall pick you make him the center he's now the center and you let him figure it out they have why are you are you trying to win games at this point no you're not they're really going with the uh the whatever that spaceship is with the extra gravity that uh goku trained in they're really putting them through that and david you're a check going up and down shut up kent johnson going up and down i do know what you're talking a thousand times gravity or whatever yes that they run out for an entire year it was so there that was such bullshit there was no storyline in that entire season except for him working out dragon ball didn't have great storyline

terrible storyline hey hey talking about hey but when they fought it was cool dragon ball just sick because they had powers yeah when he kills krillin how dare you um my point with elvis um it's so funny to see an insider come out and pierre lebrun was on insider training or whatever doesn't come out and say that there are no suitors for a player that's so that doesn't happen very often you know usually if somebody's doing an inside report on a trade there's they're breaking some rumors and give you some possibilities and for him to just say that flat out it speaks to the situation that's happening with columbus and how untradeable mers linkus is right now if you're a columbus you don't move him because you have to give things to move this

contract that is five point something million dollars through 2027 you're not trading this guy right now there was a move to be had I think something involving Merzlikens and Jack Campbell and I just don't know if it's there anymore I just don't know if it's there the other problem with Merzlikens um Pecorine was on again off again Sergey Bobrovsky was on again off again uh Merzlikens is on again off again off again off again like it's been a while and it sounds like a pain well well you ever get the fight with Tom Wilson and then he had to get benched after that oh I forgot about yeah he's that tax Tom Wilson and all this stuff and and then now he's he's getting benched he wants a trade it doesn't seem like anybody is it doesn't seem

like Columbus is happy with him and it doesn't seem he's happy with Columbus so everybody's just upset yeah he's i mean he's also i hate to bring it up but like he's also got um if i were him i'd probably want out of columbus too like it's not just that things aren't working out like there was a there was a tragedy involved there and um you know i just i don't blame the guy at all but the reality of the situation is uh how do you move him someone's gotta want and nobody in the league wants to trade for 29 years old 5.4 million for three years after this one so you're taking a you're taking a senator size risk risk there you know you're you're looking at a uh a player that has put up really good numbers but again and i say senator size because they keep taking risks

on goaltenders for four or five years at that amount of money i think it would have changed uh change the scenery he could be great i i you know what i agree with you if you look at his numbers you go back and you look at his history his numbers kind of go how the columbus blue jackets have gone uh in 2019 2020 they were a really tight defensive team under tortorella and uh 2020 2021 same thing and you those are the his two best years you need a save percentage of 923 and 916 in consecutive years now the one year he played over 50 games was 21 22 um 907 save percentage the team wasn't very good he had a 322 goals against average but again goals against average is more of a team stat yeah is it i i think this guy probably and from what we've heard

to be honest the players are not thrilled about what's going on in columbus like there are rumors about a lot of guys who are like what the hell is going on here and and you can't blame them like i think this management group's gone at the end of the year if the coach survives it that's one thing but there's no direction and there is talent on this roster so that's got to be extremely frustrating I don't blame him for asking for a trade but I do think you're going to have to find a team that's got cap space and desperate need for a goaltender and I don't think the Columbus Blue Jackets are going to retain on that deal I think if you meet your goals you're not failing yeah so I don't think the San Jose Sharks are failing in the slightest no I think they're

meeting their goal they're meeting their goal yeah the Chicago Blackhawks are not failing they are meeting their goal the ottawa senators are failing miserably and the blue jackets are failing those are two teams who i don't think anyone was like yeah columbus is making the playoffs like but it was supposed to be a step in the right direction and it's not there the other question i have for you gentlemen is in under you know outside of your conor hellebucks your UC Soros, I mean, Bobrovsky's one thing in Florida. How much money actually, or how much percentage of cap, which is a more accurate way to look at it, are we spending on goaltending now? You're looking at, you know, when we started this show, goalies were regularly playing,

starting goaltenders were playing 60 to 65 games. We've now seen that come down 10 to 15 games for the starter. So you're needing your backups to play 30 to 35. I remember Freddie Anderson, When Curtis McElhinney got in, it was only on the second half of a back-to-back. That's it, right? Jonas Enroth only got in on the second half of a back-to-back, right? Now that that's changed, how much money can you objectively tie up in the position? So if Merz Likens comes to your organization, and let's say he's making his $5.4 million, how much can you pay your backup before and have a good backup before you start to sacrifice at

other positions like you look at the leafs the leaf sacrifice on defense and some of their depth forwards so that they can have uh a crazy top four and their goaltending happens to be relatively cheap relatively luckily luckily by the grace of god yes um so so that's how they've they've decided to structure it what kind of team i think you're seven and a half eight million bucks you want to max have tied up in that position well like that's that's tough depends where you're getting like okay let's look at the best teams right so hella bucks 7.5 what is brisois getting okay i'll look it up you know like i i think the answer is you can't go over roughly nine and even that sounds a little expensive yeah yeah it's quite a bit but you better have like

one of the best well swain and allmark right right um hellebuck brossois who surely brossois got a raise you want to know brossois i'm looking after there it is last year with vegas uh brossois 1.75 one point so yeah so there you go and he's a ufa next year uh that'd be a good depth pickup for a team uh 8.5 million for connor hellebuck i don't know why i said 7.5 but it's 8.5 next year oh well then they're spending quite a bit but look how he's performing he's what but again he's the outlier he's a top three you don't count him everybody else's is good goalie not great goalie yeah the Leafs are a clear outlier because right now they're uh well when when wool comes back it sounds like Samsonov's going back to the Marlies the Leafs will be spending like 1.6

on their tandem and then two million on the goalie that isn't playing for them against the cap something like that yeah like uh it's eight or nine but it better be elite for most teams i think the answer is probably somewhere around six so then if it's around six merzlikens is a tough call because it looked like he was going to be that goalie who he was going to be him he was going to be him elvis mersley him it's it was gonna be he was gonna give you 50 plus games a season at a nine point something and which is good really and he did yes he did but the team sucks now i don't even think you can get the best of elvis it's not fair to look at it but he's stuck unless the columbus blue jackets want to hold back two million bucks a year for the next three years i

don't think he's moving until at least the summer is anybody in columbus happy no it seems like from the president from the owner down to all the way to the players everybody's unhappy there think about this jess imagine you're a you're a think about nothing don't think about anything stop thinking um imagine you're a third round third overall pick not a third round pick you're a third overall jesse blake okay he's a creative player he's six five oh yeah six seven um he's his crazy yeah he's a centerman and you go i want to play left wing i want to play left wing you want to play left wing that doesn't matter but this time i'm actually comparing you to fantilly so i'm not a center okay okay so so more responsibility you're gonna be you're gonna

be a centerman okay and you and you're gonna go and there's a probably hall of fame coach coaching you and the first time you meet him he's like let me look through your phone that's uncomfortable do we feel do we feel good about the state of things in columbus And here's the thing. If you're Adam Fantilli or you're any of these high draft picks, are you like, David, you're a check in there. Kent Johnson in there. Are you thinking, okay, okay. So, so, okay. But they got rid of that guy. Yeah. But what about the two guys that hired him? What about the two guys that thought that was, this was a good idea. And you start to see how players can just start to doubt everything. and and and listen if you're a player on the columbus blue jackets right now you're probably thinking okay so davidson and kekalainen have got to be gone at the end of this year if they're not then oh then they got they got nude pictures of the owner on on the beach somewhere like it's crazy did you hear they replaced the cannon in columbus no uh they did um it's now just a bang

no it's uh just an old man with a loaf of bread so that he could feed all the lame ducks oh he's just ripping off chunks and there you go davidson here you go uh freaking so it's the other guy yarmulke aligning here you go everyone up there they're getting canned so what is your what is your desire to play for this coach when you know that the guys that hired him are probably gone how detailed are you really going to be well can i answer for the people screaming at the screen right now i think it's the millions of dollars you know what i mean like listen out of the 32 situations that one's got to be a bottom five situation you're also in the nhl buck up yeah like uh i think the the path forward for ms leakens is okay you want to go somewhere

so that you can be a good goalie for someone else i have an idea prove you can be a good goalie the reason there are no suitors is there's heightened skepticism that you can do your job at a 5.4 million dollar level yep um go out there do your fucking best steal some games steal mackenzie blackwood yeah dude like none of us are looking at the sharks and going that's a great hockey team right there but we're all looking at mackenzie blackwood going fuck he's doing his best i take him on my team i sure sure and that's not something i would have said when he was in new jersey no i remember when they made i think when they made that trade i said something along the lines of yes it could work out and if it doesn't they spent like a six

round pick to get them and they lose games which is what they want to do anyway yeah yeah yeah it's win-win yep win-win for them and this is the best of both worlds he's stopping 40 50 shots tonight and they're losing hooray let's go out there and get some max celebrini kids yeah um so so the berserkens has to prove himself this segment isn't here to rag on the um on the columbus blue jackets but boone jenner's been out line has been out warinski's been out like i get it i get it i get it but if blue jackets fans are being honest this is not what anybody wants and the blue jackets need to pick a lane and they need a new voice and so merzlik is may never get traded his shoulder is technically a lane yeah anything just go in a straight line for a while

have a goal in mind have an identity what are you after they have not figured out what they are post-torts they the second he left what did the franchise become they acquired some talent there's like absolutely lots of talent on this roster but it's not good enough to just be like here are several players like it's gotta all right you signed johnny goudreau why what are you surrounding them with that your top center is lining who previously i was unaware played that position like what what's going on here When Goudreau first signed there, I remember being like, oh, now guys are going to sign in Columbus, you know, because, oh, well, they're spending on Wierenski.

They're spending on Goudreau. Now it's time to surround those guys with talent. It's going backward. Well, and how many, like, beyond just going backwards, you got Goudreau's dad on Twitter saying he'd welcome a trade back to Calgary. Like, it's not. I forgot about that. It's not like a, this is not good.

No. So I think what we need to do is we need someone with a vision. Now, I'm really hoping that they don't hire the assistant general manager of the Carolina Hurricanes, who I was sincerely hoping would be the Leafs. I don't think they can afford him. General manager. No? You don't think they can afford him?

No. On a Carolina salary? Do you think? Tom Dundon doesn't pay anybody anything. Well, you got a point. You got a point there. I'm not even going to say his name. What?

I want him to be a Leaf. The GM of the AGM. Is it because you can't remember his name? No. maybe but he's still my favorite gm he works under don waddell you know what i'm talking about he was the guy who wanted to replace dubas and i'm getting pissed see i can't pull names out of thin air who's gonna be first carolina oh just look it up hurricanes agm all right all right we got uh we got justin williams dustin blackberry um yeah steve you listed all the columbus blue

jacket centers uh cole cylinder eric tolsky no but he's greedy eric eric oh i love i love eric tolsky cole cylinder boone jenner dimitri voronov voronkov sorry and sean corrales what they're going with right now boone jenner is also day-to-day man johnson's on the wing fantilly's on the wing you're telling me fantilly can't play a cole cylinder spot you're telling me boone Jenner who just came off an injury can't play the wing for a bit he's still day-to-day so I don't know if he's gonna play in the next game but also Marchenko somebody's got to pick that guy line A's out the lot Wierenski's still out I'm pretty sure yeah the forward group appears to be exclusively guys who can play center mediocre like play center if you need to you know what I mean like

Roslevic has the center he's on the wing Fantilli's the center he's on the wing Johnson's the center he's on the wing i like their fourth line text you a coralli and dan for it's a good fourth line that's meh that's a big old bunch of meh you got to take off on your first line is like uh you know what he was still a good pick yeah oh yeah he's like one of the greatest victories of yarmo kekalainen's tenure there yeah he drafted a guy in the first round who was ranked like 120th and it ended up being the right pick severson boyquist proveroff peak being good brands and i like i like severson i like boquist pro roff's been a good player not recently uh peaks good beans been relatively good for a third

pairing guy good branson is what he's built and he's overpaid but whatever you know like i don't see anything wrong he beat up nick cousins so i'm giving him a pass yeah yeah i'm pro eric goodbranson yeah you get like a six month pass if you yeah no you're good that's the badge you earn you know yeah did you blow your assignment no it's your partner's fault you didn't do anything wrong eric good job buddy butt pats all around good job it's pretty thin in columbus it is and i and i don't so i don't blame um mers lincoln's i don't think he gets traded this uh unless the trade deadline takes off or whatever but uh gonna be fascinating to see what happens with columbus and desperate for a new voice i need a gm to sit at that table and go we are gonna be fill in the

blank what are you gonna be do you need at least at least you know with true living he wants more snot okay cool you knew with with uh burke he wanted truculence you knew with dubas he wanted nick patan and dennis malgan right yeah yeah give me give me something to work toward yeah whoever Whoever gets that job next is going to have a task and a half to work with, but at least they'll have a direction because they're new in there and they're going to be like, hey, I'm going to do this, you know, so it'll be good. Exactly. Two in five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer.

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extract whatever lies ahead don't change your morning let your morning change you discover coffee plus on espresso.com um do you guys want to play goalie trivia before yes let's go since we've talked about goalie injuries and everything aiden hill has been in and out of the lineup for months now he's uh he's been out for the last like 13 games ish for the vegas golden knights when he was in the lineup he um was leading the league in safe percentage and if you like drop enough games qualified i think he played like 13 so far this season he should still lead league and save percentage so that that brings us to the question they've been using logan thompson as their starter the vegas golden knights have been but who are the other two goalies that they've

been using as an emergency loan on their roster right now can you name oh my god both emergency loan goalies right now on the vegas golden knights roster no they're why do they always have this name a season in vegas like our goalies are all injured they're all guys on ir right now for the vegas golden knights jack eichel william carlson aiden hill william carrier ben hutton everybody is always injured in vegas i don't know how they do it and then all of a sudden they're all really good in the playoffs again i i watched a game where vegas was playing this guy too recently ah can you give me one of the two he's your they have a european goalie oh my god what's his name oh does it start with a

doesn't look great if you get a p the last name does start with a p come on oh this is hurting my heart he's 24 years old makes under 800 grand uh the goalies by the way uh combined on the vegas golden knights right now make 2.3 million dollars god bless logan thompson is uh 766 this goalie is 775 and then the other goalie is 849 did logan thompson get an extension by the way no not yet he signed through another season at 766 i hate them yeah i hate them it's unbelievable aiden hill as you're thinking about with the extension he signed for 4.9 in the off season which is reasonable if he can stay healthy yeah is he russian oh i don't know let me check his nationality oh if he is he's from the czech republic yeah he's czech i definitely know who

the sixth round pick from the czech republic by the way you're allowed to say czech republic again i didn't know that for a while there we had to call it czechia and then everybody's like no you can call it both i yeah i think it's both because czechia is established by the sporting body right for their international uh sports teams but they represent the czech republic yeah it is yes or or i think you just call it czechia either either or i think everybody's fine with does your brain ever say the wrong answer over and over again and you know it's wrong yes so i keep saying i keep saying Prozvatov, but that's the guy on Colorado. Yes, that is the Colorado

goalie. What's his name? Yuri Patera. No! Damn it! Now, the other goalie who's on their roster will sound like something I just made up, but his name is Isaiah Seville. Oh, that's

definitely... Yeah, that's the first I've ever heard of. How do they keep getting away with this? It's because they've got good defense. They let the goalies come in like, listen, Goaltenders that make the NHL all have the talent. They have the talent. It's do they have the brainpower to keep it going, right?

You know, like you look at Samsonov, right? He has his mental struggles. He objectively can play physically NHL goaltending. He can. He's not hurt. As far as we know. Right. So what Vegas does is they're like,

how about we just play strong hockey in front of them and let them figure it out and be confident. Let them figure it out. They haven't been playing well as of late. You know, they've been slumping a little bit, but um they've been trying to hold it together especially with jack eichel out you know that guy's such a monster driving the play on the ice like having him out definitely hurts um isaiah seville hasn't gotten into a game yet this season i hope he gets at least one start that'll be fun

to see yep um and yuri patera's got five games so far under his belt 901 save percentage i'm so logan thompson just doing a just tremendous job at 766 grand you know just unreal yeah now the Saturday night, Steve Dangle will be doing a live stream on the SDPN channel. Starting at what time will you start? Because the game starts at 7, well, 7-ish. But are you going to start it at 7 or what are you going to do?

I'm thinking it'll probably be a hair after 7. Okay. Because Saturday games usually puck drop is usually 7.15 as opposed to weekday games are usually 7.07. No, they're not. No, they're like 7.30. Every NHL game that's ever started has started 45 minutes late. Yeah. So annoying.

oh man like all right seven o'clock puck drop it's 7 30 let's start the anthems yeah they did a um what was it last night it was this leafs game was scheduled from like 9 to 11 30 i'm like yeah right it'll be midnight yeah i like i like a good bagpipe but whenever i see them on the ice i'm like oh we're gonna be here a while yeah we're gonna be here a while oh you're playing montreal on a saturday night okay we're gonna have a some but some they're gonna wheel out the 1956 team and i i can't wait and there's their wives that's fantastic it's it's not even the first note that man it's like before it starts i'm like oh we're gonna be here half now oh glenn there's glenn healy there is again i don't hello glenn i get that the like when for the ticket

goer it's supposed to be like okay the show starts at seven so then we start all of the things at seven but i think like we should establish no we start those things at like 645 and the show is the game and the puck drop has to happen at the time of the game and that would be much nicer jesse i couldn't agree more and i think the game the game start should be non-negotiable if you would like to do a 45 minute ceremony beforehand then start it earlier then go hey tonight's special you know why 45 minutes earlier we're doing the bagpipe thing you just reminded me of a mini story actually tell me it's uh my wife okay this is not off my wife we get it you're married yeah i'm every time i make wife guy every time i mention that on

twitter but yeah we get it you're married we get it um uh she doesn't chirp hockey players very often but she chirped one one who glenn healy what because what's wrong with glenn he's a great guy because stereotypes are very fun and my wife who's born in aberdeen scotland plays the bagpipes and she's like she play the bagpipes yeah she used to play in the hamilton police band and uh yeah she would drive from ajax to hamilton to play bagpipes way and um uh she saw glenn healy play because he also lives in ajax yeah and plays bagpipes and freaking everything and she's like yeah i play pipes better than him oh she said she was a better piper than glenn healy glenn healy mrs dangle bagpipe off one day she hasn't played for a very long time like i want her to do

thunderstruck on the bagpipes just embarrass him though i don't even know if she still has her pipes i don't know where they are so can i tell you something the um uh paul mccartney this is going to sound old uh paul mccartney has a song called mull of kentire which is about a part of scotland and it has bagpipes in it and one of the only places on earth he will play that song live is toronto because we have such a strong bag bagpipe community so when i saw him i'm not and it's a great song it like it gives you chills if you're into that kind of music it's really good song and uh and uh i remember when i went to see paul mccartney live like 15 years ago because i was trying to see all the greats before they got too old um uh glenn healy was on stage playing

I've heard of this yeah it was Glenn Healy's bagpipe man he told this story on Agent Provocateur yes he did yeah

oh that's the very first episode I think wasn't he there wasn't he our first guest the first one was Fleury was it no it was David Perron

Perron was yeah Healy was like three or two yeah he was very early on yeah anyway

let's talk about the Leafs and we'll we'll just say this up front two reasons they won last night Austin Matthews which if they're gonna win most of the time

it's gonna because of Austin Matthews right it's fourth hat trick this season which is bonkers 37 goals in 42 games outrageous amazing we'll talk about that 70 goals the second thing is obviously the video crew that the Leafs have um now let's start with the on ice product where uh the Leafs came out and had a terrible first period and yeah it wasn't good and my wife said to me Adam if they if they play like this all game I don't think I can watch Saturday and I said you will because you're weak uh and we all are damn I said you're you're weak

you will come back you will i think i'm understanding the divorce thing he's looking for a third everybody going for the hattie yeah just like matthews adam what's that where's your wedding ring oh it's uh we're still lost anyway um the uh it's not because the marriage is falling apart i lost it on the beat uh all right and then he said you're weak yeah yeah and then and then adam's not anti-woman adam can you explain feminism in the maddie room yeah so maddie sorry see here's what you need to know maddie uh guy on tiktok told me anyway so i i uh the the the product was terrible okay the product was terrible in the first period yeah but what was great was first off i love when tsn does a game i know the western

people didn't didn't get it i know sports that was doing that when mike johnson is so good so so good between the benches he sees things lightning quick best in the business yeah i think so too like i i love ferrara when he did it um and i know he's doing it in states i love mike johnson he's really really good and and he picked out a couple of things one of the things was and this happened later in the game um he he was talking about Sheldon Keefe and he was saying that he's like I just heard Sheldon Keefe yell at two players in a way that I have never heard a coach yell at two players outside of like junior and he was talking about Bertuzzi and Nylander and he was screaming at them like they're 10 years old to get them off the ice now I wondered if it

was because they were slowly skating towards the bench which both of them are guilty of they're the worst line change team in the league or or if it was them just staying out too long and he's trying to get a new line out there fresh legs i don't know which it was it's probably both they're listen nylander incredible player uh dogs it to the bench he's he's one of the worst line changing players i've ever seen my entire life he's he's slow he's slow he stopped skating at least 10 feet before he gets to the bench and i'm not saying skate full speed and get yourself over the bench like a freaking video game but like have some purpose for god's well they can stop on a dime these nhl players so you can actually keep skating and then stop right at

the bench good yeah at uh this whole skating edge work wild they're rather known for it no it watch it watch and and you'll notice it a lot more if you go to the games like i love i love going to a game every now and then so i can really appreciate the stuff that i miss on tv and i'm a big enough of a nerd that you're watching i really appreciate that you know who i gained a new appreciation for in um sweden was uh i think nick robertson got into at least one of those games zoom zoom it's i love watching him when he's when he comes off of the bench when he's back onto the bench and i mean he probably plays 20 second shifts under sheldon keith so maybe that's why but like there's there's an effort there it's it's that one and two percent that the Leafs have

lacked for years the one and two percent that separates them from the teams that beat them in the playoffs every year it's not just like toughness is the crutch that we lean on it's stuff like that little things like that um you know the little things like um Pontus Holmberg on the Oilers game winning goal looked like he was doing his job didn't look guilty of anything and then you break it down afterward it's like you're standing

maybe five feet away from where you should have been it wasn't a cardinal sin but it ultimately led to the goal I'm sorry but those little things are you talking about new Zach Hyman

yeah seven points in seven games yeah Pondus Holmberg has seven points in seven games and for God's sake that's the bar yeah like do we think Pontus Holmberg is the best left wing the Leafs have no I don't know if he's the fifth best just working the Leafs have just work hard out there just go into the corners dig

the puck out that's all you do just do your job like he's trying to like Tyler Bertuzzi has gone up and down for me this season he's spent a fortune he spent a fortune he swung and missed in his next contract yeah he's swung and missed on this deal he only got a one year 5.5 and the big long-term deal that might have been offered to him this summer where'd it go yeah where'd it go he's got six goals man like six goals in a relatively healthy season he's spending a fortune and like who's who's your competition for that top line spot that was his they he started the season with matthews and marner who's your competition a rookie who's also in the dog house by the way and robertson nice oh no matthew nice yeah and then there's robertson who's i've you

ever seen a brick dog house like he's he's got like they put a foundation down and he's gonna have to dig under they got a basement plumbing it's nice it's nice in there i mean you know you got a setup for the winter it's winterized uh yarn croak's not on the left wing anymore domi's not being used on the wing anymore bobby mcmahon was a call-up and then you have pontus holmberg who they're like hey you shoot left right all right how aren't you on that line how aren't you He played some shifts with Tavares last night. It was a little touch and go. How aren't you this team's top line left winger?

How don't you have 40,000 points playing with those two freaks? Well, and the way Austin is playing, the way Mitch has picked it up. Mitch had a fucking great game. He had a great game. He had a great game. And if you look at his last 10 games, he's been on fire. He's got crazy play. His counting stats have been very good.

There's been some things. With the Pontius Holbrook thing, the way Sheldon Keefe is setting up everybody with these lineups isn't how he plays them during the game. Because Pontius Holbrook, anytime he's on the ice, he's with Matthews and Marner, right? But Matthews and Marner are always long shifting. So Pontius Holbrook last night had 11 minutes of ice time. Tyler Bertuzzi had 17 minutes of ice time. Wow. So the way Sheldon Keefe sets up the lines is, yeah, that's how you'll go out.

But once we're doing these changes, Pontius Holbrook isn't out there as a first line winger. Right. He's playing 11 minutes of ice time. Okay. That's fair. Here's my question. But he's only playing with Matthews and Marner during those 11 minutes. Here's my question.

Do the players hate that? Yes, 100%. If you talk to any NHLer, what they like to do is show up to the rink. They don't have to look at the board because they know where they're playing. Yeah, like no wonder you lead the league in too many men on the ice. It's been a while, which means we're going to get one tomorrow. It's been like five games. Yeah, I know.

But like no wonder you get so many. like you you it looks like uh the fucking zodiac killer like every time you look you look at the lines and what the what they're gonna send out there um like i don't i know other teams with elite players have special lines but the guy regularly playing on your top line five on five played 11 minutes and wasn't benched yep no that's just how he was deployed and late in the game when they got to shut it down they're like oh we'll put gregor with matthews and marner uh we'll put yarn croak with like bless the coaching staff for this galaxy brain stuff that makes it look like they're working real hard it would be lovely and i think welcome by all involved

if they didn't have to do that well they're obviously going to have to make some sort of changes i wonder i mean bertuzzi had there's a lot of people that are hard on the guy and i think rightfully so but there have been some really great games from this person and he has been snakebitten there's no question i wonder if some other team at the trade deadline goes we'll give you value for value i really just don't he's a ufa so like it's it's uh he's not gonna get traded to boston at least it won't do that yeah but maybe it's a flippy it'd have to be a move where you think you're upgrading your team right yeah so yeah it'd be interesting if there's a player out there for that because it'd be with a contender who you're just swapping issues with i

guess but with just to finish off that potts's holberg point with your with your very right about hey when the game is on the line he's not on the ice when during the third period when they had their one goal lead for the rest of the game potts's holberg had three shifts okay the entire third period and it's just so strange about like hey you're going to organize this your lines the day of the game you're going to say he's our first line left winger but when the game actually matters he's only going to see the ice three times what happened the previous game they put him out there in the final minutes of the game blew his assignment they lost the game so maybe that should be a sign that he shouldn't be your first line left winger yeah but he's trying to

make a point he's trying to make a point man like again i'll say it every show are there other ways to make points this man besides ruining your hockey team you know jesse that's a great question i i would love an answer this man i think must punch the air every time he's in a room by himself scream through the windshield goes to church and lights a thousand candles like he's fighting for sheldon keith i know a lot of people don't love the job he's doing that man is fighting for his freaking life every time he steps behind that bench he might as well go Brad Pontus Hallberg's on the top line Brad he's on the top line and I'm right to do it Brad is Brendan I see you you're six foot three I can see you

the real quote was before the game we're at game 42 and i still don't know who i can trust yeah yes you might want to wipe your chin man i want to i want to that's a really adam it's what was the quote he said we're at game 42 and i'm still not sure who i can rely on i believe is the quote okay do you want me to translate that please so with with that there's it reminds me of a team that i i love and i favor the new york rangers and last season gerard galan there's 82 games in a year gerard galan might have played 400 different line combinations you know against every game every single moment you never knew what line anybody was going to be on and it messed up Lafreniere and that whole whole kids line and

everybody got sick of it and what's the thing about Gerard Gallant he's he's two years as a head coach and then you got to kick him out because everybody gets sick of it yep and that's one of the things that drive people crazy is how many different line combinations every single game the lineup is completely different and we're seeing the same thing out of Sheldon Keefe we've seen this before like he loves doing he does last year in January and this is his January thing where he just messes up the lines in every game it's different and i wonder how long you can just keep doing this every single season it's been so many years of this well this goes back to every freaking conversation we have about this team this is what happens when you pay four guys everything

and then i mean maybe sheldon just rotates a bunch of randoms in there because that's what the rest of the roster is a bunch of randoms that's what it is man it sucks brad ah he's screaming it from the rooftop yep and like to say the new guys too if i'm brad i'm going uh watch your fucking mouth watch your world well i i think what is brad gonna say to that like i said last episode and and again they won last night what does he have to point to that's a win brad for living okay mo benoit remember earlier in the season we were talking about what his best signing was and we landed on noah gregor crumple crumple oh man he's been bad so throw that max domey you got an assist i like i listen i like what max domey brings i know the rewards to max's game

but i am all the way on max domey he makes things happen i'm good with that he scored 70 points in this league yeah i said we had two breakaways last yeah no i like max i think he's so max to me is the best one yes simo benoit is the second best one but ryan reeves oh you missed a big one you missed a big one their season would be cooked without him martin jones great you know what that's the number one that's i mean it's gotta be like i've loved benoit and it's not like i'm saying domi's been bad i know sheldon doesn't trust him in the slightest but uh it's not like he's been bad your season would be absolutely cooked they probably wouldn't be in a play but is it a win to say that martin jones saved your season like this is my point is that even martin

jones being your best signing is not a good look and it's not that he could have accounted for ilya samsonov it's because no other player on this roster has performed not not just to uh expectation like not above expectation they haven't performed two expectations no no like nothing and that's that's where it gets frustrating because like last night first period sucked but at the end of the first period what happens noah gregor you pick that crumpled piece of paper up that causes a turnover well causes a turnover steven yeah causes two turnovers one of his own doing but he got it back he got it back and mike johnson mike johnson was hilarious breaking that play down because he's like he might have got benched because he didn't have a good play but

and then and then that's not it's not sometimes that we fall it's how we get up damn okay damn i stole that from the first batman movie damn that was good with christian bale all right and so noah gregor was like wow thank you batman's dad i'm gonna pass it to the real batman which is austin matthews wow so he comes in he scores there's five minutes left and they go in and it's not two nothing it's two to one and that for whatever reason is enough and austin had an unbelievable second period he did and he's getting all the flowers today because of the hat trick i'm not trying to take those flowers away yes you are he's the best goal scorer in sports well he's the best goal scorer in hockey definitely sport yeah hurling holland might be the best goal

score in sports but no austin matthews is the best soccer player in the world yeah um like i it's weird i it's weird having to justify saying you might be the third best player in the world uh because that's an insult he's definitely the best goal scorer in the world but the guy i want to give some flowers to because we've been giving him hell and i think he's deserved it but he hustled his ass off in this game and on top of the hustle he made some elite plays mitch marner he's been great he was fucking great and uh i don't remember if he was the one who got matthews the pass for the second but the give and go with him and willie crazy how that that pass making it through i don't know how that got it that was like nhl 15 neither of those passes

should have gone no the marner to willie and willie to marner oh that was sick that was friggin sick and then the fourth goal is dan vladar is not very good but i was surprised they didn't start markstrom weren't you guys uh well that's where the leafs are at right now you look to get your uh your backup some starts and you go well we're playing a team that's playing real shitty and almost gave up the lead and actually did give up the lead except for the fact that there was a that goal was called back on a blake coleman hand pass now i saw jermaine franklin tweeting about it today uh i saw some calgary fans pissed actually most of them got it most of them were like well i hate it i hate it but it is a rule the one thing i'll say about that rule is this okay you don't

have to like the rule i don't there's plenty of rules i don't like uh it's clear yeah don't don't you know what's not direct the puck with your hand don't you can't direct the puck with your hand unless it's to yourself yes that that's the only that's that's the rule now explain goaltender interference that's right you can't but at least you can explain a hand pass to someone whether it's intentional or not the reality is just like kicking hand passes are not they're not legal and if you have an issue with it you got to take that up with the nhl i don't think that they should be legal am i if i was a leaf fan i'd be pissed about it but at the end of the day it is the rule i think hard to get that mad i think i know what's going on and then reviews

happen and i'm like uh oh i'm out of my depth the one that could the lilligren one the lilligren one confused me because share it was a sharing govich who scored that manjapani manjapani kicks and then it goes off of lilligran and goes in and initially mike johnson's like well it doesn't matter it's a kick even if it goes off the player and i was like that doesn't sound right to me if it was accidentally off of lilligran and then into the net then that's a kick into that but lilligran played the puck yes yeah is what the ruling was so which makes total sense i don't adam just to correct you on the markstrom stuff he didn't play because he's day-to-day oh that's why they called up dustin wolf the other day because uh that's the guy i would have liked to

see i want to see him wolf yeah i like it i think he's their start of the future i like him uh i also think the wranglers have the best jersey in hockey and name yeah it's a great name but the man their jerseys what is it i don't know have you never seen a wrangler's jersey wrangler uh it looks like a flames jersey but it looks like an atlanta flames jersey and it's very cool are the swamp rabbits still a thing i don't know the i don't even know where the solar bears had a cool one but like the wranglers are like a great old school yellow red and white jersey like perfect 70s 80s colors man this guy oh that's a great fucking jersey right there like that is i've always wanted one they're so cool where do they play what's that calgary oh they're the calgary

wranglers yeah it used to be abit i thought that was no no no i know they're the flames farm team They've moved a thousand times They're back in Calgary Oh, okay Weren't they in Abbotsford? Yes, you just said that And Evan Bouchard Norris Adam Jus

For fuck's sake Listen, I know we don't know everything But we know something Those are cool jerseys, man I don't think you're wrong at all Those are awesome jerseys Yeah, the horsey ones yeah i still like the w better but i we're gonna act the fuck up look at that shit here's my

question why did the wranglers get the cooler jersey than the flames that's a better jersey how dare you the flames should go back to yellow red and white ahl teams generally have better jerseys they do there's a great collection of jerseys down in the a they do if we had never seen the flaming c before we would say is the best logo ever it's i think it's familiarity it's for me it's not that i love the flaming c and i also love that when they used to give the captain another flaming c in the 90s yeah the cap yes it was also i thought that was the sea was on fire back to that but i want i want that color combination is clean baby that's the biggest fuck off c in the league yeah um i also like how the flame at the bottom of the w looks exactly

like charmanders it does it does yeah he's inspiration um now uh the the video coaches save the day and and mike stevens tweeted about it but there's a very cool story with the video coaches because these guys first off they've been ice cold like sam kim jordan bean sam kim jordan jordan bean was a mascot for the islanders was he not uh no jordan bean uh no you're thinking of sam kim sam kim jordan bean uh i believe i used to work with his wife and um sam kim used to be sparky the dragon for the new york island is that still their uh mascot by the way yeah oh yeah sparky he's good in the video games okay he's good in the video game in the video games where you can play as their mascot um no it's like uh that is a true follow your dreams thing

yeah you always hear about um like uh he started in the mail room and then he worked his way up to the boardroom it's hard it's hard to make happen but uh you know not a lot of people working in an nhl uh i don't know if that's front office i would say coaching staff can say they were a mascot at one point there was a great photo i saw i think it was an athletic article um the video coach for the capitals i think once served as the emergency backup as well do you know there's him on a laptop wearing full pads do you know the detroit lions general manager started as a pr intern for them 18 years ago oh not for them for the rams i think for the rams no never heard of that yeah yeah so when they won their first playoff game at 30 years you can imagine how excited he was you just never

know man well no this is the thing do chase do chase your dreams because because i know like right now it's like wow they must seem like there's a mystique around people in those positions of power in hockey and in any sport but the reality is at one point they knew as little as anybody else about the sport and they just learned it it's i love meeting people who have it and knowing that they have it right away um i uh uh when i worked for junior hockey magazine that was the show i did with gino retta i had to train the new guy and we got about five minutes into training the new guy where i was like this he know he already knows more than me there's no point in me training and it was jeff as a party who went on to do tim and sid for god knows yeah yeah you know so

like right away and like he knew too he's like this guy's fucking clueless there's a reason i'm not behind the scenes anymore i wasn't very good at it um with uh with jordan bean that's somebody who grew up in pickering worked for the the kitchen arrangers worked his way up and video coach long time in the leafs and then but one thing that's interesting about his journey through hockey and i think might be something adam wild can look into he interned at octagon cool no way so he was an intern at octagon at one point who do we know there if uh alan walsh uh who is an agent at octagon never heard of him might know jordan bean and if he might be a guest on a future agent provocateur one day do you think i think that

would be a fascinating conversation could he be the first noted alan walsh intern maybe we have those shirts let's make them let's make let's make them um yeah so so the the video coaches have been great this year um it did win them the game and and and you know marner and matthews being great that's what you need like people like well what are they going to do they have to keep relying on these guys yeah that's kind of how they built the team yeah i don't know if he picked up a point but i thought tavaris played his best game in at least a week and again tavaris is tavaris the the the the hate around tavaris is always so aggressive because of the cap hit but this guy uh this guy there are some regression things listen it's getting to the point

where it's not great the shooting percentage is down but i think it's a little still overblown and even i was on him last episode but i do think there's something there he's gonna be fine the next year and a half the don't fret the effort was a hundred percent there yesterday it was not a mona lisa it was not a perfect game but the the hustle was there and uh that that game was uh what what is it hard work and talent meeting each other hard work yeah height doesn't measure heart i think i don't think that's i think that's what it was right new york yankees legend marcus stroman yo him in new york is gonna be hilarious yeah well because he never wanted to be a matt right so he now he's now he's gonna be finally i don't know i have a long saga with

marcus stroman just that from him blocking the fan 590 yeah that and also um we just found his twitter account interesting for years and everybody was like is everybody just gonna ignore the fact this guy seems like a lunatic like i don't know what to say just everyone's against and he's like he's just like me on his twitter account all of a sudden me everyone's against him he wakes up in the morning and like man looks at the box of lucky charms fuck you staring at yeah even his gardener's like i don't want you to succeed marcus like it's wild man what a wild guy um yeah so so i mean you take away from this game that it was an exciting fun game it was also cool to see Matthews get a hat trick

it was also cool to see Leaf fans in Calgary chanting MVP because I'm not even sure they would do that in Toronto and just litter the ice with hats yeah I was wondering this okay so an opposing team gets a hat trick in the opposing team one of their players gets a hat trick how many buildings would get

hats or the Leafs like if the Leafs are at it they clearly can do it how many other teams can do that I would say more than half a dozen hats because every every building's gonna have one guy like this is my time to shine we're we're talking the the ice crew needs to get two bags right yeah how many how many teams in the league can do that uh i think a lot of canadian markets montreal fans a little yeah montreal could maybe rangers rangers at philly

i think with when philly sucked because they're good this year within the metro yeah jersey at madison square garden would they get hat i don't are there enough jersey fans that go to rangers games where yeah he was put to hat trick he'd get hats i think once you start going west and the commute is longer than a subway ride it gets really difficult i don't know how many uh i don't know stars hats stamkos hat trick in amelie sit wait sorry say that again stamkos at Florida hat trick. Amelie's

Amelie's Amelie's Tampa. I did that backwards. Yeah. In the in Florida. What's their arena called? They just had the all-star game. We were.

I don't know. Hang on. Panthers. Pantheon. Not South. Southwest is where Amarant Bank Arena. Amarant.

Is that what it's called? Yeah. It's a local bank in I think the Southwest or Southeast United States. It's that Stamkos gets a hat trick against the Panthers.

Does he get hats? Hmm. I guess we'll find out because he's having a great season right adam listen he's stammer five on five numbers are not great they're just not they're not i think it'd be interesting to go through i think it's like a handful it's very small now yeah i don't it was a pretty special moment is all i was trying to get to and i think you i think you're right like if you yeah you'll see it regionally like there'll be a

lot of rangers fans that go to the island or they'll go to they'll go on the island excuse me uh they'll go to philly they'll go to new jersey or whatever but are you gonna see a swath of new york rangers fans uh in anaheim this is across the country i think it's across the league i'm talking like travel yeah toronto to calgary isn't like from toronto to ottawa it's like a three-hour flight this and he got hats that's fucking cool well when i was there lived in calgary and the leafs got the the one time i was there for a leafs game uh they got absolutely run over like they were a fucking terrible team it was so embarrassing but i showed up with my leafs jersey and my girlfriend showed up with hers and and we went and and half the arena is

leaf fans and it's because there's a lot of people in calgary who are from toronto or from the east coast right so if you grow up on the east coast of canada uh a lot of times sadly you have to leave to go get work in the west um and so they'll they'll bring their you know their habs jersey or their least jersey or their bruins jersey with them right that's the there's a lot of bruins fans in the east too so we can't forget about that yes yes right there and bobby or ashwa and ashwa well of course yeah you know what's interesting about about bobby or for uh because there's a ton of bruins fans because of him in ashwa yes there are not a ton of flyers fans because of eric lindross and ashwa right and one like even mark savard who had his jersey retired

in Oshawa it's like oh yeah Bobby Orr and oh yeah Mark Savard and uh yeah sure him too yeah you know what I mean and I love both those guys yeah he was so he's transcendent he's one of the top five players to ever play you know like it's just another and and was the best player in the world for a decade until a long time like Lindros won MVP one time um Bobby Orr was the best player for over half a decade now i saw something on the internet and i wanted to bring it up to you i'm so glad we um hang on is it paul mccartney getting run over it's not paul mccartney okay can you name the player so so so here's here's what's crazy about bobby or something that happened yes bobby or won the norris trophy from 1967 68 all the way through

to 74 75 can you name the player that won it before him and the player that won it after him so for eight years he won it he won it every year you have a chance you have a chance at the 75 76 player i don't think you have a chance at the 66 67 76 has to be larry robinson no he's 70 he's 77 fuck oh no but another really good player another great defenseman all-timer that's too early for salming isn't it no salming was playing but salming never won it wow really no he never won the norris i don't think any leaf ever has won the norris i'm not mistaken unless i'm losing my mind yeah i don't think we have no leaf ever has won the north is that too early for dennis poffin it is dennis poffin hey there you go now 1966 67

the year of our lord the leafs last cup yeah this is pretty difficult um and i'll get i'll even narrow it down because there's only six teams it was a new york ranger and his name was not adam fox jesse so you can't guess him jacob truba jake jake truba stop it oh uh i forget his name what is it harry howell oh that was not my guess harry howell had 40 points in 70 games that year oh harry howell uh now bobby orr when he won it and i'm just gonna pull up his stats because you know they're kind of goofy and stuff um harry uh so harry howell won in 66 67 bobby orr came into the league and in 46 games the next year had 31 points and then 64 and 67 and then in 1969 1970 He had 120 points in 76 games.

He's... 33 goals. Producer Drew keeps pointing out all the stats that show Kael McCarr ahead of Bobby Orr's pace. But there's going to come a point in the very near future where Bobby Orr from the past is just going to go, See ya! Completely leave him behind. Completely leave him in the dust. Yeah.

Well, maybe not. Kale McCarr could put up 80 points and you'd be like, holy shit, that's the best player in the world. And Bobby Orr will beat him by like 45 points. Yeah, he's like, I had 120 that season. But then there's going to come a point where Kale McCarr just goes to the moon because Bobby Orr didn't play very long. Yes, yes. Yeah, of course. Bobby Orr, it's crazy how...

He'll beat them in the marathon. Yes. He'll beat them in the marathon, assuming he can stay healthy as well. Now, I got another one for you guys. Sure. Okay, so Austin Matthews had a multi-goal game last night. It was the 71st of his career. Wow.

It also was his game-winning goal. Remember, his last goal won them the game. Yes. He has now recorded the third most game-winning goals in Maple Leafs history with 56. Can you name four, two, and one on that list? Sundin. Can we pass somebody? Sundin is number one.

How many does he have? Just guess. And what's Matthews? Matthews is a 56. 73. 79. Really good, Jesse. Okay.

Can you name the other two? They're absolute studs. Crazy names. hmm noah gregor not noah gregor not yet damn it mohavlich mohavlich is four oh and he just matthews just passed him so it's a bit of a cheat code and he's at 56 so he's 55 the other great m name mckay of stop it you're out of control today i know it's friday no he wasn't a leaf long enough yeah mckay wasn't a leaf long enough yeah shut up i would say rick vive but the leafs didn't win a ton of games no they didn't uh that's a that's

a good point in this conversation is you had to win the games to get a game winning goal like game winning goal is kind of arbitrary because you could score a game winning goal in the first minute yes technically yes and then you wouldn't want nothing yeah um or whatever nothing george armstrong was there so long george armstrong it's not george armstrong but a good guess it's the other guy who's also great and you're gonna be mad that you didn't name him half day or babe die not those guys a little bit later but not too late oh you moron daryl sittler nope dave keon um so 63 goals for dave keon 63 of them were game winners in his career now i thought that

that was interesting and i also thought that you'd want to know that matthews is directly behind dave keon for third in leaf scoring all time and we brought this up before but we're now up to 336 336 goals for matthews keon over the course of his career had 365 austin matthews has played 523 games all with the toronto maple leafs dave keon with the toronto maple leafs played 1062 unbelievable it's crazy what's happening oh my god and by the way austin matthews average ice time as a toronto maple leaf thus far i'm not talking about just this season i'm talking about over the course of his career guess under 20 minutes under 20 minutes 1943 wow that's his average ice time over the course of his career that shows you how little babcock played him

right oh my god limited his ice time so oh adam it's pain it's friday don't make me i know don't i know again a team hired that guy this season yes it's crazy um now uh so i guess we can kind to stop there i wanted to make sure we hit mers lakens i wanted to make sure we hit the oilers and i want to make sure we talked about the leafs i thought the flames just want to quickly talk about that first off do we talk about the wranglers jersey we did talk about the wranglers jersey i had that penciled in there the the the on the for the flame side i thought that they played the leafs really well of course cadre is going to score you always bet always bet the guy to score but hubert oh getting two assists in the first period has got to feel good oh yeah well and i

got to apologize to Oilers fans because I said Darnell Nurse has the worst contract in the league and they were like oh Hubert oh dude and I was like oh maybe you're

right and then he's like hey Steve fuck you and he picked up two points yeah and that's that's just how it goes just how it goes man playing the Leafs instant points

um oh can we do a press conference we have time uh yeah let's do something quick all right hey this weekend check out Drew and Stu and by the way just this

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the steve dangle press conference uh we have um two guessing games to play one is an oldie and a very goodie and we're gonna bring it back for today and then the other is uh where we're going this weekend we got to guess the location so let's start with that this weekend where are we going kingston jamaica to do a live show at a pool bar that'll be mostly pee. Daiquiri is everywhere.

Daiquiri, yes. All right. A little umbrella. Kingston, Ontario. Sorry, Jesse, go ahead. The Kingston Frontenacs. This is your first guessing game. They play in what building?

So it used to be the K-Rock Center. And I remember that because I remember thinking it was so cool that there was a radio station in the arena. But I don't know what the name of it is now. And I don't believe they're partnered with Rogers Radio anymore.

They're now with Bell Media. They didn't rename the building after Gord Downie. It's the street that the building's on, right? I'm pretty sure. I think so. Oh, man. What's it called? It's called the New Orleans is sinking building.

And they don't want to swim. That's right. They play at the Leon Center. Oh, very normal name, right? Yeah. That name is not going to last. Oh, it's going to change. It's going to change.

And Kingston has decided to take on a new sponsor. And the new name of their arena will be... The SDPN Center. Slush Puppy Palace. No way! No way! That's awesome! Are you serious?

Slush Puppy Place, to be specific. It is not actually Palace. Now, for anybody that doesn't know what Slush Puppy is, Jesse. It is a fantastic beverage. That's right. It's like the gas station. It's your slurping. Slush Puppy Canada has made the winning bid to take over naming rights of what is currently called the Leon Center, according to an announcement from the city and the Kingston Frontenacs on Wednesday.

This was back in December. I love that. That means with city council approval, the arena will become known as Slush Puppy Place. And it's a proposed 15-year agreement, $135,000 a year. Yeah. the kids in front next are excited to work alongside slush puppy team the slush puppy team as the new naming right partner of our home arena nickname the dog pal i think that is so much fun and in gatno they already have a slush puppy place this will be

the second arena wow what are they rogers right slush puppy place slush puppy arena yeah this will be center this will be the second arena in like two provinces wow it's good for slush puppies taking over you guys sales can we get slush yeah i would love to be the sdp sponsored by slush puppy that would be incredible sd slush puppy that's right let me pull up we're already in it wow so everybody knows that's cool here's a promotion forget white ice it's just uh dyed blue and purple and red. There you go. You can't tell where any of the freaking lines

are. No, the lines are white. Oh. Oh, shit. I like that. Why haven't they hired me? Get them on the phone. Get them on the phone. So that we can... By the way, did you see last night that the Flames fans were booing the linesmen for not dropping

the puck? No, but good for them. Just saying. Are they your favorites? Did you cheer for the Flames? If you want to bring it up. Just in case anybody's not familiar. This is what the delicious slushy beverage slush puppy looks like. Look how content that dog is. That dog is the happiest dog in the world because he has a slushy. In case you're wondering, that's what childhood in Canada looks like right there.

Yeah. It's that color. And by the way, it's not just your tongue. It's your teeth that turn that color too. And your lips. Yep. Oh, yeah. Did you ever kiss anybody who just had a slush puppy?

No, I didn't have that experience. For any American listeners, it's just any gas station slushy. Yeah. It's fantastic. Adam, I didn't have that experience, but I did have a level 71 Pidgeot. All right. Next guessing game is if you're like, we've had so many new listeners over the last couple of years.

We haven't done this game in literally years. It's because they took it away from us and then they brought it back. And now I think we should bring it back. It is NHL headlines. Oh. for anybody not familiar nhl.com always has a punny headline on their website used they used to and then they brought it back and we knew we did this game so much that the guy who wrote the headlines was like on our reddit and like dm'd us and all this yeah way back when we're talking

like 2017 ish i love this so the headlines have come back in the last season or so we've actually been back for a little bit so i think we should bring back the game let's go even adam yes the NHL headline on NHL.com Got it. So I give you clues as to what it could be. I give you the game, the team, everything, and you tell me the punny headline that NHL.com came up with.

So. That's so cool. Last night. Well, I should say, NHL.com is highlighting the Vancouver Canucks. As they should. They've had a lot of wins lately. They're doing very well. That's the first. I can give you

more if you'd like but if you have a guess we can go from there they beat the arizona coyotes last night in vancouver um a lot of players did well let me see we had a goal from pedersen dakota joshua scored who's been a fantastic value man what an ad player um what do you what do you think the headline is okay by the way these are very this is very competitive and it means a lot to steven ice yeah oh yeah actually get one you do cartway you guys you guys usually go like two for ten you know like every ten we do you'll get like two it's hard it's so hard and so much fun play along with it can i ask if it is a team-based headline or player-based headline because this is our first time back i'm gonna warm you in yeah please okay please it is a

player-based oh nuts well then i'll tell you what my team guest was going to be because they have johnny canuck i was gonna say johnny be good right that seems like the sort of thing they would do yeah they do much better yeah they could do better than that okay i think like like here's what i'm thinking like petter petterson scored joshua scored right what can we do with those names for pete's sake petter send you know guys who had assists hoglander teddy bluger quinn hughes JT Miller. I think it's just Teddy Bluger with three exclamation marks.

Who is after Hoglander? Bluger, Hughes, Miller. If Miller had scored a hat trick, it'd be it's Miller time. No, Jesse's throwing us off. It's got to be Joshua or Patterson. Has to be.

What was the score in the game, Jesse? 2-1. Oh, my Joshua? Demko had a great game save 20 of 21 shots no conor ingram is also pretty good but just his team could he's now he's throwing us off now he's giving his crap you're just adding stuff who cares about conor ingram i've given you all the details okay so you can guess this headline pistol pete um submit your guesses here gentlemen i'm giving you 30 seconds to formulate an answer vancouver a whale of a game

or a whale of a time i already told you that it has oh shit it's a player shit okay um steve you got anything dakota oh my gosh adam elias petter saint because he's been saintly with the way he's played The NHL headline from today is Just Quinn, Baby. Oh! That's great. That's a very good one.

Very good. Just Quinn, Baby. I'm so glad these are back. Yeah, we're doing this. We're doing this every day now. I would do this every episode. I love this. It's fantastic.

So I was trying to lead you down the path of the guys who got assists. Quinn didn't score. I was like, the guys who got assists. You can never trust Jesse with these ones Because he does throw in shit Like you threw the Conor Ingram in there Of course it's not going to be with Conor Ingram You've lost the game

He'll be like oh and the goalie made 12 saves Maybe that's the headline And we're all like Baker's dozen Shit that would have been good No but a Baker's dozen is 13 You idiots Here if the headlines guy is listening This one's for free

if they ever beat the Blues, singing the Hughes. So they're giving away your good material. Their story, they have a story on Quinn Hughes and leading the team in the All-Star game. There you go. That's awesome.

The Canucks got so many All-Stars and all that stuff, and they win last night. So just Quinn, baby. Now, Steve, how is your live stream going to be against the NHL's number one team if they come in

and they act like the NHL's number one team because they sure act like it a lot. I hope it is a great game, and I'm confident that it's going to be a great game. The Leafs have a little palate cleanser here with a nice two points over the Calgary Flames. The Leafs and Canucks low-key don't really like each other, and the Canucks are going to bring their best,

not just because of the number one team in the league, but because the Leafs ran their show last time. This will be fun. They beat them up, and they had a nice comeback win, and the Canucks are going to be very motivated to not let that happen again. Well, let's have some fun. okay so and how do we watch that on the s deepen uh youtube channel you're playing me out while i'm

in the middle okay also i want to say this because of our live show on sunday we should have led with this we are going to have a day off monday so we don't die and then we'll be back tuesday wednesday friday next but you can hear sunday's live show on monday yeah you won't miss content on monday the steve dangle podcast follow the guys on twitter at steve underscore dangle at Adam W-Y-L-D-E and at Jesse Blake. Connection complete. Two in five Canadians

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