The Steve Dangle Podcast - Camera Roll | September 13, 2023

Episode Date: September 13, 2023

Get tickets to see the SDP live here: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/thecourseandtheclubhouse/973853 On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Spittin' Chiclets calls out Mike Babcock and Columbus responds (00:00), Canadian Tire signs on with the PWHL (45:30), Tim Stützle speaks on Alex Debrincat's Ottawa exit (49:00), the Canucks don't like Mark Messier (54:45), Adam Lowry is named captain of the Winnipeg Jets (1:13:00), Connor McDavid's media day photos (1:15:00), a Taylor Swift reporter (1:22:00), pooping in people's cars (1:30:00), and Stanley Cup Goalies (1:42:00). Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

the steve dangle podcast with your host steve dangle adam wild and jesse blake steve did you want to see something on my phone oh nothing no that's nothing i'm i'm good did you do you have airplay hooked up in here i want to yeah can you just throw it up on the screen what would you like me to throw up on the screen oh just you know stuff that shows me what kind of a man you are you know oh wait conversational stuff you guys i i just got a text from nick robertson oh yeah he's been saying that that keith's been making him show his shoes oh he's he wants him to take off his shoes and then air his feet show me your feet he wants to show his feet to the whole whole team that's because he's we need we need to go out keith it's because

sheldon keith is one of my fan group the feet people um okay you know no i'm glad that never caught on i know it did catch on no people exist it didn't hashtag it didn't none of you it didn't catch on i uh i i did want to say this uh before we get into the mike babcock situation which obviously we're going to lead with uh matthew from my dms in response to last episode hey guys uh in regards to monday's episode my friend pooped himself on a roller coaster at canada's wonderland oh no we're talking about that steelers picture right oh and we were wondering like what happens when you do that at a public space like what do you do you walk out pantsless do you have to re-wear your pants like what happens and they said they gave him a rain poncho and free pickings

of the lost and found fair i think that's a really good that's fair wonderland's part how did you get to the point where you told the wonderland people well because you have no pants man white shorts imagine you're in a park you're a grown man in a park without pants on and you're like with a bunch of kids there you think that's a good look what we're gonna talk no no at what point did you lose your pants what are you talking about hit them yeah so i didn't take them off immediately in the middle of the park when you watch the pants you need to give this person some credit i'm sure their first idea was hide it then when they discovered they couldn't do that yeah then they're like how about the poncho and lost things no my first thing is i'm

leaving oh like i'm just done no but you i'm done i'm going home through the park with shitty pants well no the good thing about canada's wonderland is it only takes about eight to ten seconds to walk through yeah no i'm so so you you shit yourself on behemoth right yeah you're on the back of the park you're on the ride you shit yourself so may do you get off of the ride or you sit there well yeah you get off i get off the ride and if i and if i can get up and walk off the ride then i'm walking all the way home i'm not i'm not talking to anybody about me shitting my pants this is a great fucking show i think you need to you need to go to the bathroom and at least wash it because what are you going to do when you get to your car and you know that parking

lot goes for like no you're not going to jump in your car jump on the what is it the what's the 400 what's the transit at vaughn because there's everybody's got their own different names like because there's like the oh what's vaughn's brandon's got like the the zoom the zoom bus yeah uh where everybody's on meetings and we're going hey thank you for joining us in this mississauga's got my way uh yes yeah yeah i don't know what vaughn's is but you jump you're not jumping on public transit in Vaughn you're not jumping on a go bus you're not jumping in your car with poopy pants so at some point you're gonna have to wash them off the only place to do that is the Wonderland watch the Viva the Viva yeah that's the one that's the one in York that's right hockey

podcasts are so normal like so normal well I know it's it's a bit of a dramatic week uh the other thing is um this is uh for anybody that's looking for something to watch tonight before hockey starts Jake said yo I want to thank you for that WeWork uh recommendation I watched it this evening crazy interesting stuff. You guys have got to watch that WeWork thing with Jared Leto and Anne Hathaway.

And I know the acting lineup's tough. That's a tough sell. It's a tough sell, but I'm telling you. I don't know enough about Anne Hathaway to dislike her,

but Jared Leto, that's tough. For some reason, people don't like Anne Hathaway. I don't understand why. She's nice. I don't know enough about her. Jared Leto's weird.

He's like a cult or whatever, but he's also really good at portraying this guy who's a weird dude. So you should watch it. So lean into what you're good at. Are we going to talk about Nick Robertson

and asking keith to show his feet yeah well i'm gonna call him out today i don't think we are man okay so yesterday was going normally and then a clip from spit and chiclets went wild and it was not like fucking nine in the morning yeah it was really early sorry it was it wasn't it was normal to me i'd already been up a few hours but yeah yeah um it walked the dogs and that sort of thing but but so i i get back and i'm looking at this thing and you know i they have a huge following anyway so they get a ton of likes and clicks whatever but this one kind of stands out because it has to do with mike babcock and anything mike babcock as a toronto may beliefs fan we're going to be interested in but this one set the world on fire jesse go ahead and play it please i will do

that this is outrageous i get a text from a player he goes have you heard what babcock is up to again and i'm like no so he gets to columbus and one of the first things he does is he calls in boone jenner the captain of the team and he says let me see the photos in your phone i want to know the type of person you are what the f is going on is that is that even legal it feels like it's totally illegal him on the podcast to grill him about his antics as a head coach like worry about the four check worry about your your your personnel worry about getting the power play humming at an alarming rate so you might have a chicken dick's chance of sneaking in a wild card spot why do you want to see throbbing dick pics from your captain on his iphone i don't understand this by the way

if i was going into one of these meetings having heard all these stories prior i'm putting on like rocky quotes on my photos oh yeah i'm putting on like my workout routine oh yeah you know what i would put on my phone i'd be standing here in this chair with my bin staring oh yeah you know what's coming yeah what's wrong with this guy now i hope this story is true because then we look like real big idiots but i think that mike babcock should come on this podcast and clear the air as to why he wants to see pierce nipples from instagram thoughts in his players phones so uh they're a little more vulgar than us we just talk about shitty pants yeah you know what uh i'm not gonna throw stones in this glass house

so so uh they invited mike on the podcast strangely enough as he accepted mike declined but he did choose to do the adult thing and the adult thing kids is to argue back over twitter The Columbus Blue Jackets, really not the Columbus Blue Jackets, Mike Babcock and Boone Jenner released a joint statement. First from Mike Babcock, while meeting with our players and staff, I asked them to share off their phones,

family pictures as part of the process of getting to know them better. There was absolutely nothing more to it than that. The way it was portrayed on the Spit and Chicklets podcast was a gross misrepresentation of those meetings and extremely offensive. These meetings have been very important and beneficial, not only for me, but for the players and staff as well.

and to have them depicted like this is irresponsible and completely inaccurate. Boone Jenner also said, while meeting with Babs, he asked me about my family and where I'm from, my upcoming wedding and hockey related stuff. He then asked if I had pictures of my family and I was happy to share some with him.

He showed me pictures of his family. I thought it was great first meeting and a good way for us to build a relationship to have that blown out of proportion is truly disappointing. Now, if we go further than this, and I'm just going to give you this first and then we're going to jump into it.

Oh, yeah. I'll tell the whole story. Aaron Portsline did an article, obviously, for The Athletic. Portsy, he's been on this show many times. He's great. He talked to Mike Babcock directly and said, Mike said, I've been doing this practice for a number of years. As you're trying to get to know players,

they're trying to get to know you. You're sharing stuff about you. They're sharing stuff about their families, what's important to them, where they're from. We had a program like this in Detroit and Toronto. It was a really positive thing. I think it's really important to know the guys and for them to get to know you

what was portrayed on the podcast today was just so far from the truth it isn't funny it's actually offensive and then and I thought you guys would love this last paragraph Bissonette in a follow-up to the social media post did not back away from the way the story was portrayed on the podcast

in fact he said tons of players confirm it contacted by the athletic business sorry Bissonette disputed Babcock's denial with a profanity the nhl players association contacted for comment and said it is looking into the allegations now we know that johnny gaudreau was interviewed by the media yesterday in henderson because you know famously we make fun of steve for going not to vegas but to henderson um doing it again johnny gaudreau was interviewed by frege and uh um uh jeff merrick on the 32 thoughts podcast he

said it was pretty normal thing the person i obviously felt worse for in all this was boone jenner but second johnny very underratedly was johnny gaudreau like every like major hockey media outlet is in the same place right now and he i believe is the lone representative for his team yes you wouldn't be doing your job if you didn't ask him no you have to ask and so now he i think i want to say he's a former guest of that yeah it's just completely hot potato yeah just right into his he's on today's version episode of the podcast and he said it was babcock's way of kind of getting to know me and i got chicklets no 32 thoughts no no so i was saying he's i think he's a former guest of 32 uh of chick yeah he's been on chicklets before yeah and they're saying he

said uh it was babcock's way a kind of way of kind of getting to know me and i got to get to know him the winger said i wasn't uncomfortable at all i was showing him pictures of my family if i had a problem with it i would have been like i don't think i'm comfortable with that but i had No problem with it. And then they spoke to Bill Daley. Bill Daley said the PA is investigating, which also came out later in the day. Now, Jesse, can you go right back up to Johnny Gaudreau's last sentence? Yeah.

Where he says, I would have been like, I don't think I'm comfortable with that, but I had no problem with it. Yes. I think that's a key statement. Now, who have we heard from from the players? Who have we heard from on the Columbus side? Boone Jenner and Johnny Gaudreau. And of course, Mike Babcock himself, right? But I did say players.

I don't doubt that those guys had a pretty normal conversation. Yeah, and this, I don't know if this adds context or not, but Boone Jenner got married like a month ago, at least. So this would have been much earlier this summer. Sure, sure. Now, what I am curious about, and I'm not making an accusation here, but I think it's relevant.

No, make it. No, it's not an accusation. boone jenner far as i know is on a multi-year multi-million dollar contract johnny gadreau very publicly on a multi-year multi-million dollar contract i want to hear from fourth line left winger right and then well and this has always been the criticism because we know and he's got a track record of this this is not stuff that uh this is not stuff we're making up when mitch martyr was in the doghouse we all know that story it's when johan franzen backed up by chris chelios later on called mike babcock a bully and said it was

terrible playing for him for his mental health and chelios backed him up and there's been a few players that have said things but they haven't put their names to it um very clearly in the way mike babcock previously coached in detroit and toronto and that's all we have to go on anaheim too don't forget about anaheim we know that there was a hierarchy and that players that mike could not win without the star players on the team were treated just a little bit differently from the players that maybe were tweeners all

the complaints have come from players on their way in or on their way out right so it's not just a young player problem which Columbus has a ton of like you know Mike Commodore was on his way out Mike Medano was on his way out Chris Chelios was on his way out Jason Spezza to a much lesser

degree with the well Mike Mike wanted to make sure he was on his way out Mike tried to make sure he was on his way out you're on your way out wild how good he was for how long he was yeah for the lease yeah it's yeah completely and mike would have wasted that he would have completely wasted for nick shore man like yeah and who also on his way out at that point but less so apparently so the the reality of it of it is as of this recording and we have heard things that maybe this story is not going away But we don't know. That remains to be seen. As of this recording, it's difficult to say, like, you know, everybody wants people to take a side. And there's no I think the waters are muddy enough right now that there is no clear, quote unquote, side or truth about what happened.

we just flat out do not know but what i what i do find i think you got to look at the motivations whenever you see this situation right so what are the motivations for for biz if if he comes out and mischaracterizes a story so let's let's assume and by the way i'm not saying that this is true but let's assume the worst about paul bissonette for a second right and then we're going to do the same exercise but with the blue jackets right so let's assume the worst about paul bissonette What would Paul Bissonette have to gain by making up or, probably more accurately, misconstruing a story like this? Well, you know, he's trying to generate clicks for that little startup podcast of his that he just started also. And that doesn't get enormous amounts of clicks regardless.

No, it doesn't get hundreds of thousands of views per episode all the time. No. And they don't regularly get like Sidney Crosby and Nathan McKinnon. Wayne Gretzky? and Wayne Gretzky and he's got not only is he got that podcast he's got the NHL and TNT as well right so it's not like biz is you know one of the things one of the criticism I'll make is that sometimes the broadcasters of the NHL are too inside with the NHL uh yes and so I'm bringing something up um so so sorry so go ahead so it's not as though Paul Bissonette's like we're we're

under the gun and we need more clicks right right so you know maybe you could chalk it up to again assuming worst case scenario here he just felt like he wanted attention on september the 12th yes 2023 one thing i want to say about this is that i do feel like if anybody in the media knows what the average nhler is talking about or is well connected to it's it's paul bissonette and it does it for better or for worse the paul bissonette is very very intimately tied to a lot of nhl players currently playing yeah that's obvious current and former oh yeah yeah like you can think what you want about the guy positively or negatively like you cannot take away that he's extremely well connected also he said his piece uh the blue jackets said their piece and i was

truly alarmed genuinely alarmed by the complete complete and i'm gonna stare down the barrel of the camera for this i'm begging you to get media literate holy shit like the blue jackets released their statement and people went oh well that's that then so let's holy fucking shit guys so let's go ahead and get a brain assume the worst about the blue jackets let's go deep into that no no here wait what i'm sorry because because the blue jacket statement came out and people were like well then that's it so a guy who's on like the biggest hockey podcast there is and he's on tnt tweets the following we're a players podcast you want to fuck with the players we're going to bend you over no spit no lube sandpaper finish you think that gets tweeted and ah well

just a little just a little screenshot from the Blue Jackets and this story is done not a fucking chance guys that imagine like that's it's the equivalent of imagine Kelly Rudy going on hockey night in Canada going well you know what sandpaper

finish that's what I'm all about right like it's a little different there might be some follow up all right guys can we also there were some shocking reactions yesterday we provide the context of Babcock's history of doing this as well and that's why i want to talk about to that point jesse let's get into that let's talk about the blue jackets motivations here worst case scenario they're

covering this up jesse talk about the resume what is mike what were the risks with hiring mike babcock for yarmulke kalina well that this something like this would happen you know it'd go off the rails and immediately nobody likes them and they have to be as he has to be fired before Interestingly, when the Leafs hired Sheldon Keefe or when the Ducks hired Greg Cronin, this was not something that people would be like, Greg Cronin, he's got a history of that. It's because Mike's done shit, right? Yeah, and people generally don't, within the game, there are some circles that don't enjoy Mike Babcock. I think that's very clear. And with this history, with this specifically, like he does this and has done this for, I guess it's decades because it stems back to Detroit.

And Friedman had it in his piece here where he says, it's clear after reaching out to as many people as I could, Babcock has asked to see people's family photos, at least going back to his days in Detroit. He did it in Toronto and now he's doing it in Columbus. in some cases apparently there were family presentations where a player would send pictures babcock would put them on a screen and have that player talk about his family to the team so they're doing like literal class presentations about their photos it's like elementary school yeah and then i mean it makes me uncomfortable but like is it wrong no but this was this was a part that really stood out to me where he says it wasn't just players he's done it with people on his various staffs while going through columbus's hiring process he did it with

some of their executives consider family photos during the job interview considering everything he knew he was getting hired come on considering everything that's been reported about babcock if a lot of people really hated this we probably have heard it much sooner i don't know about that i don't know about that on tuesday i've heard from several people who liked it and a couple who didn't one current player who has never played for babcock said he'd heard about this recently and it would make him uncomfortable although he admitted the way he heard the story was like a game of broken telephone and back to biz this is clearly a talking point within the players in the game yeah he knows what the guys are talking about and they're talking about this and it sounds like

a lot of guys are a lot more uncomfortable with it than we're hearing through people like freeman and through the columbus blue jackets because they because what do hockey players do guys they respect the man they are hierarchical they they are not guys there's no way that's a word yeah it is hierarchical yeah they like not not a chance it is a word uh check it out we're getting to win a fight um they they don't want to rock the boat no you're you're absolutely right and so what happens is instead of going to the powers that be they'll just talk amongst themselves now biz's original statement and i think this is an important point talked about a player relaying information yep the actual text message that he got he said oh babs is doing this and it i think

it referenced boone jenner um the player i don't believe in biz's original statement from the text message was somebody who had directly dealt with it so the text that biz posted directly to twitter about that he got out of i'm sure dozens he received so he got one text that said you got to sneak into your pod about babs getting guys to show their photos on the big screen he's doing it to guys in columbus now same shit he did to me guys need to know that's coming it's a fucking joke so it's obviously someone who was in anaheim detroit or toronto it's obviously someone who did play under babs at some point who knows man i talked to a few people that i know one of which did play for babs yesterday and i said do you believe it person said yeah

now now that doesn't mean anything because clearly they had never had it and it had never gone through and and and whatever i think i think what we have to understand here is that i think the bigger picture is that columbus has a huge amount of investment in making sure mike Babcock looks squeaky clean and and so you have to understand that okay that that that press kit that that we got you know from the the Boone Jenner and the Mike Babcock statement we're talking to the head coach we're talking to the captain again it goes back to what about the players who may or may not make the team who feel like if they say I'm uncomfortable with that like Johnny Gaudreau said he would have if he felt uncomfortable well that that's instantly a mark

against you now I don't want to talk about my private life Babs I just want to talk about work yeah and i think that's that was lost in in the point made on spitting chiclets is they they yell about like hey go figure out the power play yeah and i think that's a lot of what these hockey players who are uncomfortable with this think about mike babcock they're like why are you asking me about the photos on my camera roll go figure out who's playing on pp1 i also like again i i don't know if there's anything fundamentally wrong with being like hey like how's your family or whatever no but uh it was presented in a way that made it sound like a demand but i mean again if you're a tweener and your coach asks you for something how much how much license do you have

to say no so that's the thing that's the thing it's players feeling like they don't have agency so let's say he was uh innocently being like hey let me see some first of all like can i just tell you a fucking story why do you got to see it but okay fine you want to see my family so you can picture them you see saying it out loud sounds fucking hey maddie can i see some pictures on your phone isn't that fucking uncomfortable yeah right but you see what i'm saying yeah by the way maddie don't show me in these don't in these contexts like just follow you on instagram it's set up a little differently where there's like been formal presentations and things like that like it's clearly a team bonding quote team bonding exercise that babcock has used multiple

times throughout his history as a head coach and guys a lot some guys aren't a fan of it some guys can just team bonding is going paintballing yeah team bonding is not is not that and listen if you think it's weird if you don't think it's weird i just want you to imagine going into the office tomorrow and your boss asking you the same question show me that's what this is show me a picture of your kids i actually there's a reason you haven't seen leo for quite some time like because people got fucking weird and so i'm not posting them anymore that's fair i'm not posting them anymore people are too fucking weird that's fair man yeah that's fair and it wasn't from anyone who had any power over me and and and so this is the the conversation for me is it's less

about who's first off both sides have an unquiet now both sides neither can back down biz is not backing down the blue jackets are not backing down they have set their lines we may never know the truth about how this really went uh it's probably somewhere in the middle as it always is but what i would say here is this is the problem that we talked about when yarmo kekalainen hired mike babcock it is not this issue for me is not about mike babcock so much it's about the absolutely mind-boggling decisions that Jarmo Kekalainen continues to make.

He... I mean, this is his final bullet. Why? It has to be. But why, first off, why would you... You've got a young team. You've got a market

that's great for newer coaches. He's never gone that way. Except for the one guy who was on Tortorella's staff for the last couple of years and everybody hated that from the beginning. And guess what?

The Blue Jackets were fucking terrible. No one had time for that. Not even... The Blue Jackets fans instantly when he was announced, people were like fuck this this is going to be bad they had fiery they they hated a guy i had never heard of yeah and then i was like oh they're bad so they are intense for me i want to figure out how yarmo kek align it a guy with one playoff victory like series victory to his resume what in

decade his his resume his resume is as good as the leafs the franchise has won one playoff series well and it's and it was him and it was a while ago well i want to understand too if you want to split hairs with the qualifying round you're on thin ice yarmul must know that you're on thin ice and this is your guy it goes back to what we discussed in early summer spring whenever the hell he was announced to be hired it was april but he couldn't be hired till july or whatever yeah why mike not because mike can't coach not because mike can't reform but a every interview mike babcock has given he's almost he's never apologized he's never even suggested that he's changed anything number two yarmo this is more work for you you have to manage this man's history

for the entire public because if this was anybody else if this was bruce budro asking for pictures on your phone i bet you people wouldn't have reacted the same way but it's mike mind games babcock so there's two very interesting points there one you're absolutely right about budro and one of the first things i thought of was i mean let's not forget in recent memory they had john tortorella as coach who is known as a can tankers hard ass hard ass there's a good word at at times and the blue jackets knew that when they hired him and the players knew that and remember the story of there was a moment early on in his tenure with the blue jackets where the players said mike you gotta chill or john you gotta chill yeah you gotta chill

i don't know if he really did but but they were a good team but they were also willing to be like all right john that's enough and like i've heard enough stories that i believe it that for all his warts uh players are willing to go to the wall for john totorella you don't hear those stories with babcock so he's not getting the benefit of the doubt you hear the complete opposite it where guys just want to give up and not not play for him yes like and i he's not well liked at all it's such a it's such a weird hire why would you bring in somebody that your players don't like well now wait though so another really underratedly um uh alarming a part of a part of all this um the friedman's 32 thoughts article i probably didn't get the play it deserves because

it's it's not as sexy as biz and some of the colorful language uh that he responded with an expletive yeah you imagine elliot friedman go fuck that guy no i can't i just i cannot but he said i don't know if the blue jackets were prepared for this yeah basically i'm paraphrasing that's their fault that's that's your most fault it's brainless it's completely brain you have to know that we knew that and we're just three idiots in a room like i guess they thought it's it babcock is a fan of a fascinating litmus test because we talked about the string of coaches who got fired uh remember bill peters got fired shortly after babcock and we talked about them all in the same clump and then at some point a little later we were like okay but like not all

bad things are equal all right it was yeah it was bill peters my it was mike babcock bill peters and then joel quenville with all within uh a year and a half was it not oh yeah oh yeah it was all back to back to back in like a two season span and not all bad things are created no yeah and i think i'm forgetting something so what what we talked about the the reason i'm bringing this up if we talked about babcock and and bill peters in the same breath i was like well Bill Peters will never be back in the NHL I don't think you didn't say WHL though I didn't say WHL maybe I should have but Babcock I was like is it so bad like listen I'm not hiring him for my team but is it so bad that none of the 32 teams are bringing him in well clearly there's a

team desperate enough and they might even be good well and like think about it like with the blue jackets under normal circumstances have a shot at this coach no absolutely not and like again no offense to the organization no offense to the market we always talk about ohio getting a bad rep but no shot absolutely no shot they have an opportunity to get a really accomplished coach i assume for cheap ish right on a two-year deal it's only two years on a two but how did how did you just describe him a really accomplished coach is he a good coach anymore i i don't think so thank you right we saw look at the way he played it in toronto did yarmo watch any of those tapes but just talking if you're the blue jackets you go listen we don't these opportunities don't

come up all the time let's let's go for it i'm i'm trying to you're trying to justify like Jarmo Kekulani making a bad decision. But I think that's almost... I'm also getting into character of Jarmo Kekulani. That's his reasoning. Because you look at... You say, yeah, he's very accomplished, but they need to take a step back and say,

is Mike Babcock the type of coach who can coach in 2023, where the world is a different place and what he's been doing for the last 25 years doesn't work anymore? We're going in two different directions here. Yeah. You're talking about he's not even a good coach anymore. I agree with you.

But what I'm trying to say is, like if you're the blue jackets you're like this is a really rare opportunity to get uh like we do not get coaches with this resume yes the way you're outlining their reasoning makes sense but right although that's somewhat disrespectful to john tortorella but he was also coming off a really bad experience he was this very similar situation yes uh and you're the blue jackets and you look at this and you go well that stain will wash off and what they're discovering is no not really not anymore torts going to the flames dressing room and challenging them to a fight is a lot different than the sorry than the mind games that or the the stories that have just come

out and i think greg waschinski made a really good point on twitter uh he said the thing about mike papcock is that a this shit is never in isolation and there is always people ready to speak out about what they went through with him yeah it's true b i've never seen a coach have as many enthusiastic detractors as babs the only other one i can think of is mike keenan i think alan vigno has some mike keenan but alan michelle terrian yeah but at least in quebec for sure as much as we don't want to admit it a lot of these hockey jobs and these hockey circles that you get into are just a matter of hey do you got friends yeah they like you and people don't like mike babcock and it starts with the players it's so don't bring in somebody that the players fucking

me that's an important thing like it's really difficult to get kicked out of the brotherhood but at some point enough nhl people were like you know what this mike keenan guy's a pain in the ass yeah out with you go win a gagarin cup or something like that still the only coach to ever win a cup and a gagarin cup okay i just want to say when was the last time was mike babcock's last playoff victory in like 2011 with detroit 2013 now i know that that's maybe not columbus's goal their their goal is really just to squeak in they got to get into the playoffs that's the that's got to be the goal but yarmo's on a two-year deal babs is on a two-year deal yarmo tried a rookie coach uh everybody in blue jackets land was told him not to do it he did it well guess what happens

they stunk uh so now he's going back to what he knows which is get hard tack um veteran coach who's coming off a pretty rough go and i i just to me this all comes back to him you know i i want to understand why yarmo kekalainen made this decision i want to understand why he wants this headache you know it's so funny right so there's so many players that get uh they get tagged with that oh he's difficult oh he's a difficult personality he said he speaks his mind when when it comes to coaches they're like well he he coached a game once he he won a cup a decade and a half ago i i just i do find it funny man how about like you know player treatment aside if how about managing this person how i'm gonna hire a guy who deliberately um disrespected

his boss's decisions multiple times at every turn and gotten publicly and publicly he would there's i believe in my heart of hearts i haven't heard this but i believe babcock would not have made it to the beginning of the 1920 season if it were completely up to do this well not a chance we know that i think it was game five game five saved his job that's that that's when least management said okay because they played really good in game five and in 1819 against boston and that's when the upper management said okay he's he's getting a shot next year what uh like i i know i know serious wasn't even fucking done yet i dude dude like what the fuck i know i fly off the handle man i know i do but when cj said that on that uh locker room cleanup uh episode

of our show i was like the beginning of next season is going to be a waste of fucking time and guess what it was a waste of fucking time it was a complete waste of fucking 20 games yep or whatever it was yeah oh weird the thing anyone who was paying attention knew what happened happened it's so fucking weird how that happens do you know who the president instantly got better do you know instantly you know the president of columbus blue jackets is john davidson john davidson john davidson's been there since 2012 and yarmulke lion's been there since 2013 I think it might be time for a change Yeah, well

I don't disagree, man The other thing, the way Yarmul's built this team And listen, getting Johnny Gaudreau Was a steal of steals Especially for the price they got him for Like, really good Philly did fuck that up, let's be honest They had to get Tony D'Angelo

Had to get him Can't afford Johnny Gaudreau Have to get Tony D'Angelo So stupid Also, it's worthless until they do anything Well, okay, agreed yeah so so but i'm just let me start with the positive okay yeah hey listen you're right you're right we got you got he's gonna take a long walk to get this drink of water you had to get you had

to get you had to get rid of pierre-luke dubois because he flat out said i'm not going to play for you yeah but based on his shitty actions on the ice i i still don't love the way pierre-luke dubois went out in columbus i'm sure he'd love a redo patrick liney was good i don't was good value right good value at the time hasn't come through because the coach you hired stunk and obviously you've got Kudrow but what let me ask you this

and Blue Jackets fans let me ask you what are the Columbus Blue Jackets? Young and figuring it out. But what's the identity that they're striving for? That's what I can't figure out because you know

the Blue Jackets under Tortorella it was pretty easy what did you call it? It was like Metapod Harden Harden just defense

and you hate playing them and look at that the Toronto Maple Leafs got beat by them in the play-in round. Squeeze blood from a stone block shots and grind is that what they are now is that johnny gaudreau's game is that patrick linea's game and the reason i asked those questions now you know you got really good

young prospects david you're a check among them who had a crazy year last year oh the future is not bad no it's true but i'm just i'm curious about what the identity is here and again i feel like this all comes down to yarmo this situation that unfolded yesterday is squarely on yarmo kekalinin here this is you invited this you wanted the smoke now you get the fire whoa how late from my day up working on that one i didn't even write it down that's a great wow here high five yeah that was great my face is pink in that camera man yeah gotta figure that out you don't look that pink and yeah i think it's at all is it the white balance i look red what's going on here it's also the tv isn't oh it's a tv no camera oh no you're a little pink

here pinky boy it's not i don't think it's the camera's fault entirely that's got to be the i think it is okay wait see it's pretty close like that's right i've been complaining about this for a week and i don't know what we need to see maybe i'm just a red guy maybe just a very they just get hot yeah well you okay i run hot let's let's talk about this uh listen here's the here's the really bleak way to look at this it's either bleak or positive depends what side you fall on i suppose um babcock being persona non grata in toronto um what did he do in the first year all the rookies were playing what what'd he do that got everyone so mad uh well i mean he put didn't he put mitch marner

on like the fourth line for a month it wasn't a month i'm sure his agent will tell you tell you it's three i'm pretty sure it was two games um brought marner in a room oh that okay yeah said who's the hardest worker put him in a tough spot with his teammates yeah wrote it down made made marner marner ready town fuck with his head yep etc you know what else he did that year took a team that was in last place the year before and made it to the playoffs with a team of scrappy rookies if you're the blue jackets you're like yeah we could do that what if that's us yeah we got a goalie we get we got this guy and d we got this guy up front we could do that we could absolutely do that so that is the the cynical bleak way of looking at

is um even though i do think babcock's uh um stock in hockey as a coach is falling i i think the blue jackets from a hockey perspective could easily look at this situation and be like yep we can make the playoffs and it's kind of it's kind of ridiculous when you you're like oh clubs could actually be good this year and not like good as in their top five team in the conference but like They could sneak in. Competitive? Sure. Yeah.

Who had the Leafs making the playoffs in 16-17? Nobody. Only Jesse, actually. Did I? Jesse did say. Jesse said. There's no way you remember that. Yeah.

No, I do remember that. You said it. And then we got to a certain point in the year, and Steve's like, if they don't make it, it will be a disappointment. But you and I both. Well, because they were in a playoff spot the whole time. But Jesse did say, I want to say this, in 16-17,

he's like, no, they're fucking making the playoffs. And he was being bombastic. And here's how I know he didn't mean it. he doesn't remember it i don't remember at all you should wear that crown the rest of your life if you meant yeah i i don't remember that at all you did say it when did i start on the podcast well you started in uh we started this at the end of 12 13 so you've been 13 14 14 14 15 14 15 yeah oh yeah that's so long ago it was a while ago ancient it feels ancient um we've been talking about this shit has babcock won a playoff series since we started no wild wild no not good bob uh

anyway i think we've i think what'll be interesting with this is if this story truly does have legs uh then it will be ongoing and it may disappear for a few weeks and come back i think more likely to be the case is this is an early season thing that probably just goes away we gotta find out what the NHLPA says. So that'll be the next like bump in the story, like when they come back to us. So it's not,

it's going to be sometime before the season. We'll hear from it again. And the Blue Jackets, by the way, are going to do everything they can to push the Mike Babcock. It's running a really clean operation.

The PR team is going to be working overtime all season long. And Steve, I think you're right. Just flat out believing a PR statement from a company that has a vested interest in you believing what they're telling you. Guys, you got to question some of this. I saw a really funny exchange yesterday.

Someone tweeted, oh, so then Boone Jenner and Johnny Kudrow are lying? And some guy just responds, yeah. Or maybe they had a different experience. It will change. Again, they're the stars. Mike does not have a job if he cannot get those guys to perform. you see how quickly you thought critically and yeah a lot of people just not hard it's just not that hard guys come on i got more faith it's okay not to take a side it's okay to be like

like here's what i'm doing i'm taking a side my side is i don't really know what happened but i feel like it's a i feel like something stinks how's that i've heard enough privately that i don't think this is over at all okay it listen i don't i would be shocked shocked if this ended in babcock getting canned um i haven't heard anything that necessarily warrants it um maybe a talking to like the best thing that that could come out of this is he's gonna realize exactly how tight his leash is yeah i think he's learning now yeah and yarmo's gonna realize they're gonna bend themselves backwards trying to be accommodating now which might take some bite out of his coaching like it might make him less effective as a coach in a weird way

who knows or maybe better who i mean maybe not being shitty to people as has been recorded in the past makes you a better coach who knows like all i all i know is he probably came into the season thinking he had a tight leash he learned it's even tighter than he thought and maybe we actually get to see a new and improved mike babcock should we do should we move on to a happy story no or do you have something else you want to do jesse oh no we're gonna end it okay is zakarensky healthy is he gonna start the season i don't know yet he's still listed on ir at cap because he had the that is he had a soul shoulder injury and then he was skating this summer their defense is going to be pretty good severson provorov orinsky you're a check um i think

jake bean is on that defense i think there's a bowquist i think is there it's a pretty good defense it's it's really young really mobile really like i i almost look at their defense and go there's only one puck though yeah but maybe you find out who deserves it and then you trade the other one well so i mean yarmo has itchy thumbs yeah he doesn't mind making a trade See how I adapted that saying, itchy feet? The future of their top six is so much fun with Goudreau, Laine, Fantilli, Kent Johnson. They probably get another pretty good player this year, too. Even Kirill Marchenko.

Yeah, he was a surprise. Or maybe he shouldn't have been, but he was really good. One of the most ridiculous stat lines I've ever seen. Yeah, the Russian Brandon Peary. Would he have 24 goals and no assists? 24 goals and I want to say like four assists. Yeah, Jesse's going to be... Oh, you mean like his stat line last season?

Yeah, nobody predicted that. 21-4. Minus 23. I mean, they were pretty bad. Guaranteed that's not bottom five. Go click. Go click. This is cap-friendly.

It's not like... Yeah, but no. Click on the team. Oh, I don't have their team stats. You stink. I'm on cap-friendly. I'm on his page. Oh, no.

It would just take it to their page. Yeah. You're a bum. Yeah, I'm trying to tell you. I can't just click anything. Who did he get his first assist of the year against last year? Toronto. Of course he did.

he had like 15 goals go leafs go go let's go leafs um let's go leafs um okay so a fun happy story and this is one of progress and i love stories like this is uh canadian tire which has already said that they were going to put 50 of their marketing dollars behind women's sports by 2026 uh are joining uh with the pwhl to sponsor um well they're going to be a founding partner uh which i think is pretty amazing for uh canadian tire but obviously they um uh they're going to be the the title sponsor of the draft uh coming up here on september the 18th um and and listen normally like the canadian tire doesn't advertise with us so like we're not getting uh i would love it yes uh but it's not like they're they're coming to us and being like well can you can

you slip a mention in here but i think it's really important when you're when you're founding a league or founding an organization even like ours to get those founding sponsors in and you know you want people to be able to spend money with you and this is going to be major for the league in terms of stability that's the key right now this is why they started with six teams is to keep it small to keep it stable to get people in the door to show that there's a return on investment to sponsors and then you expand well and it's it matters that it's such a big name right like huge well i mean canadian tire is not just canadian tire right it's sport check well it but like what i'm saying is they could bring in oh yeah when one of our founding sponsors is frank's pizza you know what

i mean yeah and you're like who the hell is frank's pizza he's from he's from sicily yeah it's oh frank's italian food oh sicilian food oh yeah he's gonna sponsor the pwhl oh no but what i'm But there's room for Frank's Pizza as a sponsor. But you want to hear about Canadian Tire first. Let's start with Canadian Tire. Adam's point about starting with six and proving the point is so important because Liz and Corral, they were talking about how there's other markets who want a team.

Sure. Like Washington has been so good with women's hockey. Buffalo. When they get there. And they could have tried for eight, but you start at six, you bring in somebody like Canadian Tire, and then you go from there. it's they're doing this great you can start it with 30 and just done a really fucking terrible job the canadian tire corporation owns a lot of hockey related things too oh yeah canadian tire

obviously which you can buy hockey stuff at pro hockey life sport check hockey experts sports experts and sherwood as well is owned by canadian tire uh we all had sherwood brand hockey sticks i'm sure at some point got one right now do you yeah they uh i have a sherwood stick actually i do too i uh i i actually have i have the ovo sherwood collab hockey bag that's what i used to hockey's on fridays with steve that exists it's pretty sweet we were at uh floorball in new jersey and i was like whose ovo bag is this that was actually it wasn't even yours yeah oh my god yeah we have the same he has the he has the leafs what no he has the white one he has the one nylander has i love that one but i have the classic ovo colors i did not creep on his stuff

enough like he the free shit no aval barber must get oh god i can't wait to talk to you guys about that fucking turn yeah holy smokes so much fun is that even a i think we spoiled pavel's gonna be there no they've announced pavel's gonna be there i hope so i don't know i think i think that goes our invite for next year guys thanks um so anyway congratulations to pwhl obviously noxian kax and uh sdpn on the whole will have more with with that i want the team names yeah we do want the team names that'll be unveiled at the draft oh that makes sense like the winnipeg jets did uh what is the team back uh september 18th okay i want the fucking team names yeah i know i want the fucking team names uh that'll be monday next week this is interesting let's go

I got a couple of things that I thought because yesterday the Mike Babcock story kind of, I don't know, soaked up all the oxygen like there was nothing else. But there were actually things that happened beyond Mike Babcock. The amount of stuff to drop before noon. Yeah. It was wild. And this is something I actually meant to get in on Monday's show. And this is that part of the reason Alex to bring Kat didn't want to play in Ottawa was that he was unhappy with his role behind Brady Kachuk. uh bruce gariac uh who for sure is coming at this from a specific perspective

um did i'm i'm just proud of him for being the only person to cover the sense so so he starts the column with so long alex we hardly knew you uh but uh it it basically sources say he didn't like his role as the second line winger behind captain brady kachuk If that's the case, then to bring cat really did have to go. Now, it's interesting because when they hired or when they when they brought to bring cat in, the idea was, we know you don't really want to play here, but we'd like to convince you to stay, which is a bet. Right. But what was interesting is that later on, Bruce Gary in his column for the Ottawa Sun says, if to bring cat didn't want to be here, nobody was going to try to convince him to stay. that that sounds like not doing your job well that's objectively not true well just bring him here and say fucking nothing to him i'm so glad we're reading an unbiased

opinion i know it's a little listen i welcome to the sands dick you will score some goals goal man fucking asshole i think the end paper i think timmy studsla is uh spit on it quote no uh they just hand him hand him a baby shit 69 jersey don't even put his name just baby shit 69 no no the name on the back is whatever the fuck it's no the fuck your name is f-u-c-k-i-n-n-n-n so it's fucking they just don't know who um one uh here here's the funny thing is in in his column he says yes the senators knew there was risk involved when they paid a high draft pick to get him from the blackhawks before the 2022 draft but they were hoping to convince him to stay and then he goes on to say if

de brin cat didn't want to be here nobody was going to try to convince him to stay um i think i think that he didn't want to be there from day one and they tried to convince him and that's okay he didn't want to stay he didn't want to stay you will get players that do and i i love tim stutzla's comment on this uh as much as i make fun of him for diving i would run through a wall if he was a leaf player like i just love him oh like this this if he doesn't want to be here then i don't want to make him uh i don't want to have him there you know it's fine to us i think the whole group we've been saying it we want him to stay we want him to be part of this group he's a great guy and a great player but if you don't want to be here then good luck on your way and i think that's a

which is so much less spicy than it was originally presented because it was only the last sentence that was presented yeah it was presented as tim stutzla tells alex to bring it to fuck himself and that's just not how he's learned his last name he spit on him on the way out hey baby shit 69 there you go piece of that's how the article was written yeah at the top half of here wait here go to adam now there you go i love technology there you go sweaty man yeah oh you is look at me i look like i just got out of a tanning bed um a really bad bed a baby shit bed baby shit 69 hey i know we just traded like the seventh overall pick for you but yeah i don't think you can blame the cameras on this one yeah no it's

genetics i'm just a sweaty guy i don't know man i know i i'm blaming i'm blaming maddie actually yeah after the show yeah no show us pictures from your phone maddie just another one no it's it's tim's dude's like giving a perfectly normal answer level-headed take in his second language oh yeah which oh you know i could i i i saw that statement and i'm like here's how he could have worded it a little differently but i liked it how good for you be bold i agree but also i uh i could not explain my feelings for anybody in german uh that's a good point yeah i don't know the words so um jesse i'm going to send you something anyway i just thought the bring cat thing it's like guys it seems to be because because gary ock was very much like if he's not

going to sign an extension let him go and that he was very much like that he was i think one of the First guys to report that Dabrinkat was not going to sign an extension in, you know, February, March, April, whenever that came out. He gave them lots of runway. He sure did. So anyway, long story short, they move on. The Sens are probably going to be pretty good this year. Get ready for that, Leaf fans. It's happening.

Hey, Jesse. Yeah. I just sent you a I sent you a picture of Quinn Hughes. Can you please bring it up on the screen? It's on the screen. Matty, can you bring please bring that up? Oh, look at that. Quinn Hughes, captain.

We talked about that on Monday. So this is Quinn Hughes from the Vancouver Canucks official account. And I just want to ask you guys a question. He's only the 15th captain. Yeah. What do you think about that picture? What's wrong with it? What game are we playing?

We're playing a game called What's Wrong With This Picture? Okay. That looks like Quinn Hughes. His C is glowing. They got a... Is the TD ad new? No. Okay.

I'm looking at the background now. Huh. I'm looking at Quinn because I assume it's something with Quinn. Is he shooting the wrong way? I don't think so. I'm not sure he's a lefty. Yeah, I'm just trying to visualize.

Yeah, I got my lefts and right. You got to do the left, right thing. Yeah, that's confusing. No, he's good. Quinn Hughes, 15th captain. That's his number. He's 43. That's his number.

Yeah. I'm trying to see. The sea is glowing because it's new, right? We like that. That's a good. Oh, I love the graphic. That's a good little artistic thing. Shout out the Vancouver Graphics Department.

Anything else, guys, that you see? Luongo doesn't have a C on his sweater. Yeah, but he never was allowed to because the NHL, for some reason, prohibits that. Yeah. Super weird. Even though they didn't in the past. There were goalies with captaincies before. I don't know.

You don't know. Okay. No. I'm going to run you through some names, guys. Okay. Orlin Kurtenbach. Yes. Who's that?

He was the first captain of the Vancouver Canucks from 70 to 74. And the founder of the Curtain Blog. Oh, yeah. What? There was a Canucks blog called the Curtain Blog. uh i still think canucks blogs actually had the best names pass it to bulis was my favorite that was the funniest one there uh i mean the canucks as a blogosphere are top five all time hilarious uh 75 76 you have andre bourdais and then uh in 76 77 you have chris odelson

and then for a couple more years don lever and then three years in the early 80s you have kevin mccarthy and then for most of the rest of the 80s uh until 1990 stan smeele and then dan quinn for a Trevor Linden, Doug Lidster, Trevor Linden again. And then you have Marcus Naslin, who was also captain of the Vancouver Canucks, Roberto Luongo, Henrik Sedin, and then, of course, Bo Horvat, who sent his congratulations. Okay. Yeah, I'm looking at the – I'm counting the photos in the background.

I only counted 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 photos. I just got it. Who's missing? mark messier there it is they did not include mark messier on the graphic all the captains made the vancouver canucks graphic for quentin hughes except for mark messier wow so that that is petty to the mac that came down from that came down from the very top yes i respect it no they uh that's on purpose i need canucks fans to explain to me just because i haven't done all the research why is the hatred for mark messier so deep well he wanted he basically bounced trevor

linden from the team that i know and then i think wasn't there a sir kirk mclean story well i just i remember they i'm pretty sure they've never made the playoffs well yeah he guaranteed in his press conference that they would make the playoffs oh i hate reruns yeah don't do that yeah he guaranteed don't do that and then uh and then yeah there was some other story yeah i want to know too but like it's man that's bad that is really tough like like listen uh i mean i it's a vancouver canucks relationships with most teams relationships with their former captains are pretty good like i even think with the leafs like most people are like listen our d the dion years weren't our favorite but it's not like he was out there doing bad shit the team just sucked right

there was not like a bad person there are captaincies that fan bases go like it's uh it's not our best year dad what about that shadowy place that is beyond our borders we must never go there so yeah yeah it's like no offense to brian mckay but were the blackhawks at their best when he was their captain he was wait was he the captain of the blackhawks yeah no he was the captain of the island oh was it the islanders okay which i saw a photo of him as the captain of the islanders the other day i was like what the fuck yeah when did that happen when ole yokanen was the captain of the florida panthers was it their best years no no but i at least remember that and i think panthers fans were like yes that was a big chunk of time and he was

he was a very valuable player to them but and like someone who had a very good career but people go oh we don't talk about that like shane corson is captain of the st louis blues oilers oh no one remembers that shit oh he was yep i i think he was captain of the blues too but he gave it to gretzky when gretzky was traded to st louis which is the right call on account of it's wayne gretzky well i the only thing i wanted to say about this is i can't remember i can't think of a captain in in nhl history who's more reviled by the fan base and to not include him in this graphic again obviously like listen we've we've in my dealings personally with mark messier he's been nothing but professional

but yeah but hey steve steve how about you same experience oh yeah both times i don't know I've heard some stories on this podcast about you and Mark Messier that are a little different than Adam's experience with Mark Messier I mean really ever heard of a cookie Steve Steve okay to be honest though Steve didn't like oh it wasn't it wasn't

I wear some blame there a little I don't know you're gonna go with a lot like like okay it should okay the story is that you were at the Mark Messier stamp unveiling at the hockey so there's there's two the first one is i hadn't even been hired by rogers yet i had a terrible haircut and i went to some rogers

event that he was paid to be at and i thought i was like i know i'm not gonna be able to get like a pulitzer prize winning interview with him right now so let's get a cool social media post rogers had these stanley cup cookies they were about this this big and i was like hey mark would you take a picture holding one of these cookies above your head which i thought was a cute idea and i feel like most other people would do he said uh no and walked away now now i think sometimes i think what gets lost in that story is the way he said no i don't remember because he said because because like most people like listen i don't feel i don't feel comfortable like if you don't mind and then no that's a non-story it was mean but he just said no and walked away it was a bit dry

I was like, it was cold. Okay. Now the China Club won. The China Club. So Nick Kiprios comes on the show 2016. I think it was right before the 2016-17 season. There you go. And he comes on and that's a great episode.

He comes on and he told some fantastic stories, some really fun time capsule stuff too, like with the Leafs. but he tells a story of joining the Rangers and the power that Mark Messier had. I'm not going to, I mean, he was a God in New York. Yeah. I could never tell the story half as good as Kipper tells it on the show,

but basically Messier was really powerful and it has to do with the China club in New York. So very shortly after that interview, I am in the same room with Mark Messier at the hockey hall of fame for a stamp unveiling. I don't even know if he was on any of the stamps. yeah i don't even remember i think he was i yeah you're probably i think it was like four people or something they all got stamps and he was one of them but like the the people i spoke to i don't i

don't remember if johnny bauer was at that one or a different one i think he was at a different one i spoke to phil esposito he gave me his time i spoke to gila fleur he gave me his time and then i go up to mark messier who is not even fully facing me there's a photo and you can see he's not even fully facing me he wants nothing to do with this and he thinks your scope he thinks i'm actually shit on his shoe and like he's not even fully facing me and i go so nick kiprios told this really interesting story about the china club and uh blah blah i can't remember the lead up to it uh but he just goes yeah no i i don't i don't remember i go oh no nothing you don't remember no i don't remember and then he didn't need to turn away from me because he was already not

phasing me and walked away and that was the last time I ever spoke to Mark oh it's so good just I have heard I've heard from people who have worked with him on branded stuff he's a delight

delays commercials he did Rogers commercial I don't remember which campaign it was I don't remember if it was for Rogers but I get i think when he's being paid to speak to you he's a delight why otherwise oh fuck yourself and you know what part of me is like he did a lot of interviews in his day maybe he fucking hates them well then don't show up to the event all right what did you think was gonna happen yeah

and also why did everyone oh yeah phil esposito never been in front of a mic in his entire adam you know the flair never never been spoken to by anybody you know what i oh i hate when you see an actor at a junket oh my and the actor is like that's the last place they want to be on earth you know what this is your job yeah what are you doing here show up for five minutes and talk to this reporter from australia and give them a funny answer and go on with your day and you know who do that a hundred times in an hour and you're good and you know who does a great job of that fucking will smith man he shows up will smith like so i remember doing um uh that movie he was in suicide squad suicide squad went to new york they did it in like one of those old new york warehouses to

kind of set the scene and fucking cara delavine and margot robbie show up they were hammered the night before i saw it on page six on twitter that morning and i'm like okay so they're going to be hung over so they're not going to have much to say um uh because they're like best friends right still are um and you know i've a few other actors in the cast that you want to talk to but margot had just come off of that movie with leonardo dicaprio and it's slipping my mind right now that everybody yeah wolf of wall street which has become a personality trait on certain parts of tiktok i don't understand that at all the american psycho guys graduated to wolf of wall street guys what the fuck you know what guys i like a murderer and i like a thief those are

gonna be the guys i look up to you ever watch a movie and miss the point entirely yeah it's like people that that take starship troopers literally that's another one that you should really look at tom was the villain in 500 days of summer yes yes he was he was a dick thank you thank you um no love that guy um but i so i i knew that uh i knew that their answer is going to be short and of course they were uh but will smith is sitting beside them and i know everybody hates him after the the chris rock oscar slap but i will forever be grateful to will because those guys don't get paid to promote movies they get paid to do the movie if they don't show up to the promotion then they don't show up and will was there beside them vibrating with excitement just like i'm

ready to answer any question you have and i and i i i you know you get five to ten minutes with them and every single answer was great and we used it all that is either who you are or it isn't you know what i mean well i think you can put it on do you think that duane the rock johnson is the pr machine that he is all the time no i think duane the rock johnson when he gets home and wants to sit on his couch and eat i don't know uh whatever he eats that isn't fun i'm sure it's probably boiled chicken um a whole cow he's probably like oh my god i was asked so many stupid questions today and i'm sure all of them feel that way but the ones that to me the when you bring it if you got to perform and you got to perform for an hour or two that's what it means

like do you think we're this loud all the time well you'd be right but the amount of times i see people like like fucking like a kid in the candy store yeah and then they realize i'm just a person it's pretty boring though and like oh i'm talking to him there's no jump cuts he's not yelling about anything yeah where's your come on do the screaming thing why are you just wearing a shirt the point is with the messier thing he doesn't you're at the damn event talking to steve and let me give him two seconds of an entertaining answer yes let me and let me listen if you if you're not in the mood i understand but let me give you the bar like let me give you the best i've ever encountered and i've told the story before johnny bauer

johnny bauer it was at the hockey hall of fame i think it was for a separate stamp event because it was the goalies collection you just love going to stamp events at the hockey hall of fame i had nothing it's the one thing he does i've been to which is hilarious i've been to two no but you get great interviews when else would i get to talk to johnny bauer gila flair's favorite thing in the world stamps at the hockey hall of fame and then they give you the stamps you attend the event jesse you have the stamps i don't know you don't i got the stamps hey jesse maybe if they had a doll unveiling at the hockey hall. I'd be on it like shit on Velcro

Adam. Imagine they had a stamp event at the zoo. Zoo stamps. The Leafs used to send a player to sign autographs at the zoo every year and I went every year. Okay. Johnny Bauer Johnny Bauer. So it's a stamp event for

the goalie collection. Johnny Bauer is one of the goalies. He's I believe 92 at the time. I asked him for an interview and he goes okay but we can only do two questions because i had dental surgery i think it was the day before oh my god it was the day and like this is very clearly he looked at his schedule and went well i have surgery this day and i have the stamp unveiling and i don't want to reschedule this

the surgery and i can't uh reschedule the stamp unveiling so i'll just have to roll with the punches suck it up i used to take pucks off the face it's probably how he looks at And who would blame a 92-year-old man who had dental surgery the day before for being, like, no interviews and, like, even covering his face when he did? I can't do it. Like, even, like, his family was there, and they were with him the whole time. His daughter spoke to me. She could have easily gone, he's not doing interviews today because he just, he had his teeth fixed and whatever, whatever. Yeah.

He goes, no, two questions because I had dental surgery yesterday. And I go, oh, okay, good. Did you ask good questions? well i don't remember but in my mind i'm like wow he thinks i have more than two questions prepared uh fucking i didn't so i ask him my first question with the final syllable of his first answer his teeth fall out of his mouth like his up i think it was his upper dentures sure fell right out of his mouth into his hand he and like i wish someone was recording the look on my face because I was like, Johnny Bauer's teeth just fell out

in the middle of me talking to him. But right into his hand, pops him right back in, looks me in the eyes, and he goes, what's question two? That's the bar. And then I asked him question two. He answered question two. I shook his hand. He went somewhere else in the Hockey Hall of Fame

and had a beer. That's the bar. When you were a captain for an NHL franchise and you see that they left you off of their graphic and they refused to acknowledge that you existed as a captain to their franchise other people are doing things like losing their teeth and giving interviews in the middle of an interview man there's that says something about you um how about this uh and he's known for this this is not going to surprise anybody walter gretzky came to

breakfast television when i was there and he invited the entire staff over to his house walter loves people coming over he did he loved it and he talked very old school very old school like well come on come on down and and you know we could talk and i could show you some of wayne's stuff oh yeah and he's like walter i was like shocked and he was not in great health at that time either but he came in and he brought it it's like the bobby bond story yeah i yeah but maybe this is you want a book here come to my kitchen yeah and to be fair and to be fair to know who the fuck i am to be fair to mess two meetings is not enough to make a person right when you i'm not calling him a bad guy no of course not if if we were all judged on our bad days then we all be

terrible people right so maybe he was having a bad day but you're at an event and you are representing your brand uh and and so we'll leave it at that now he missed three straight seasons as the canucks captain they missed the playoffs well i'm curious about what he uh he took wayne mckee's unofficially retired number 11 he took the captaincy from trevor linden lacked any intensity and physicality that marked his game before he joined the canucks this is from vancouver is awesome.com who wrote about him being left off the graphic. They don't like him there.

They had a good team when he jumped on. Oh, and my Jesse, you got to read the rest of it because it ties into something we were talking about earlier. He was responsible for the Canucks hiring Mike Keenan dividing the locker room and dismantling the team. Another reviled coach, Mike absolutely

reviled a dude who won and despite winning, everyone was like, you know what? Beat it. Yeah, you stink. Get ready to learn Russian, buddy. And he did. I can't even remember. That's a meme.

I think it's Adam Silver or something. No, it's Gary to go to China. Yeah, yeah. The Chinese. But it's an Adam Silver thing? Yeah, yeah. Go learn Chinese. Well, that's what NBA Twitter loves to say to anybody.

Which is, yeah. They said that to Dylan Brooks. Yeah. He got $80 million. Yeah, no. Because, yeah. i uh uh we've got adam lowry was named captain of the jets um if there is a player that embodies winnipeg on that roster to me like tough hard-working you know uh the type of player

like toronto loves this too the lunch pail guy uh however that hockey people describe this adam lowry seems like a really good pick because he's been there forever and knows the team knows the um knows sort of the team culture hopefully he's a part of the team culture getting better but um it seems like a really good pick for them and i'm happy for them people are pumped it makes sense i mean mark scheifele seems like the obvious pick how do you make it him if like forget you know his ties to blake wheeler or any of that he's not committed to the team beyond this season yeah yeah there's no way scheifele could have been captive you can't make it him so who else do you make it um the only other candidate i really see is josh morrissey i guess i i think

maybe kyle connor and maybe they will be captains eventually but lowry is obviously very involved in the community with initiatives as well i think specifically cancer initiatives and he's also the guy that's like doing all the ugly work right the penalty kills and the shot blocking and all the all the stuff that you know isn't fancy and and the three guys i just mentioned i didn't mean to do this but i'm looking at the cap friendly page that jesse has up the three guys i just mentioned are the guys who are committed the longest they're all committed to three years or more no one else is there except for maybe guys on entry level yeah so to me he's a good captain but to me it's an interim role and not interim like i'm saying i'm saying that at the end of

his three-year contract winnipeg will probably be even if they extend him they will probably be ready to to offer the captaincy to the new incumbent best player and there's nothing wrong with that you might be right yeah but that person's not in the organization yet maybe not like i think if we're waiting for that guy or maybe it's morrissey at that point right well they're morrissey's 28 you know like yeah he'd be 31 at that point or 30 it's not like he's he's a 20 20 year old austin matthews you know you're waiting for him to mature or something yeah he's a good pick um uh making the rounds on twitter this morning um is um some of the nhl media photos and oh no i hate to clown him like this but connor mcdavid just looks i don't i

don't even know how to describe it uh jesse can you bring the pictures up there on your text message um uh miserable i think would be the word and it's not because he people like oh maybe i think drew made this joke too which everybody does this um it's another year playing in edmonton i don't know i feel like he enjoys playing in edmonton but he does not enjoy having his picture taken that like look like like and some people maybe resting wise don't look happy uh yeah he's one of them yeah it looks like he wrote like worthering heights in the 1800s you know if just a very very um uh what's the word i want to say uh uh there's there's a lot of intensity inside there's a lot of conflict if if you made that photo black and white you could easily put

narration over it dear ma stop made it to gettysburg stop confederates are coming over the hills stop we'll attack it done stop it's look look at okay which of the four photos best illustrates genuine hatred i'm gonna say the first one too maddie said the first one i mean is the is the idea to be intimidating no the idea is um most make me feel like you want me to die and to me it's i think top left and I'm taking listen I'm going to play devil's advocate here do it I know he

looks completely fucking miserable I think this is a guy portraying that he is ready and willing to tear the tongue out of your throat to win a Stanley Cup do you think he accomplished that goal uh

what to convey that message with his face yeah yes okay this is already the scariest player in the league he won the scoring title by something like 25 30 points listen it's funny to clown on him it is but that's the face of i'm winning the fucking cup this year okay okay all right no i don't think any team expects to win the stanley cup the way the Edmonton Oilers expect to win it this year.

Really? They expect to win it. Is that what you think? Yeah, I don't think they're necessarily the odds-on favorites. No one expects to win it like they do. And no one expects to win it like he does. Now, I want to compare and contrast this with... I'm trying to find it.

The Phil Kessel Team USA photo. And I'm trying to find one that we can use without getting in trouble. But you know the Team USA one? Oh, none of them? Yeah, I know. Where, you know, the famous one where he's like... Yeah, it's just really funny. It was ahead of Sochi, wasn't it?

Yes, it was. Here we go. I can get it. This is the photos that Phil Kessel had. SB Nation has them posted. Of course they do. Jesse. Pay your writers.

So, who do you like better? Do you like Conor McDavid looking intimidating? Or do you like Phil Kessel going, I'm going to win a gold medal at the last Olympics the nhl will ever play at ever isn't that nuts well it's what it was yeah we watched that in your mom's basement yeah it's 2014 sorry i meant your floor that was my floor jesse's pulling it up yeah there's oh yeah that's good yeah now scroll down a little bit because there's another headshot that's no it never talked about he won three cups not that uh he won three cups after

that photo was taken this is all i got okay well this is what you said well no there's more in that but maybe it's being blocked who knows way to go adam yeah that phil kessler way to fuck up the whole show do you are you more intimidated by phil or connor uh connor yeah connor okay connor looks like he would cut open your skull and feed you your own brain like fucking hannibal ector in whatever that hannibal ector movie was i think it might be called Hannibal I think it might be I don't even know I don't even know it's whatever one came out in either the late 90s or early 2000s now um uh there's a couple of things I want to hit on before we go to the press conference the first one is Aaron Rodgers oh Monday Night Football man four

plays into the game there is a well not even before that before that there was a shelter in place order in New York because the rain was so crazy before anybody got in the stadium there was a shelter in place order because the thunderstorms are crazy now new york in august and early september is thunderstorm capital of the world uh they have a ton of rain it gets very humid but when you're playing on turf it makes the turf a lot slippier than than say right grass at least in theory so aaron rogers um obviously goes out and plays and we all know what happens after four plays in he kind of rolls back snaps his achille that's been confirmed but i wanted you to watch this news report from wisconsin home of the green bay packers this is the greatest thing in the

world a wisconsin bar offering free drink drinks if the jets lost rogers went down early and they started running up the tabs but then what happened let's play it jesse the only thing we're gonna get demonetized oh we're gonna get demonetized never mind so what happened was fuck man youtube no you don't need the video you just tell the story yeah so i guess so what you see is you see the reporter's recorded clip he's been there all night and what a reporter will do when they're live on a scene is they'll uh build a story send it back for editing and then the news anchor will introduce the story and then the reporter will come on live after the minute 30 clip and say well here's where we're at and so when you get to the here's where we're at portion of it in the background it's

overtime and you can see the um the bar everybody at the bar go oh because what happened in overtime steve who has josh allen in his uh in his um nfl fantasy well the buffalo bills fucked it up and the actually the new york jets did some pretty incredible things and they came back and they won the game and so everybody had to pay their tab everybody had to pay their tab and i bet there were no fights i bet no one got banned from that bar for life for taking it poorly also did you guys see the the new york radio host he's a jets fan and he's like if you think we're dead just watch what wait what they did after rogers went down we're not dead stop walking around like we're dead i don't understand why everyone's like oh the season's over they won the game you just watch

them win yeah and it was a great win yeah but zach wilson's now their quarterback so i i know it's tough it's tough did you see the quote that has recirculated because when it was rumored they were going to trade for a quarterback zach wilson said very famously to the report i'm going to make it really tough on whoever they get and then and then they're like wow he made it really tough man a hundred percent tear uh there's no way he's back i think he's coming back not this season no no not this year i think he will be back next year yep also i wanted to let you guys know if you're in the market for a media job usa today is hiring a taylor swift reporter why is why is this getting clowned on well i don't know i think it's because

maybe listen it sounds a little ridiculous i get that but there is a real um measurable impact that taylor swift makes on every city she goes to and it is it is in consideration although not proven yet that she may have saved the united states from a recession which may end up happening anyway this summer because every city she went into generated so much money she has like a gross domestic product oh yeah like what there are are there more taylor swift fans in the world than there are fans of any hockey team on the planet i don't know probably yeah definitely yeah are there more taylor swift fans than hockey fans yeah i would think so i'm gonna say definitely yeah so you know i don't think you should have a reporter follow around

every band or artist but it seems to make some sense it makes perfect sense it's also like this isn't an uncommon thing for the longest time brian windhorst who is an espn nba reporter his job was just following lebron james like lebron james is such a big universe in and of itself that they had a guy who was just in charge of lebron james content yes and like this isn't so i was like this is just media and i don't understand why this is a big twitter clown on these guys for hiring somebody to cover a story that's very big and needs a dedicated reporter because i'm still in the third she goes my head she goes to a city like fucking la and says what's your biggest stadium oh fifty thousand seats i'm gonna sell that out eight days in a row yeah

you know how many people that is and she goes around the world and does this a reporter can cover this for a full-time job can i tell you my wife has been like steve you i need you to whore yourself out like for what to some sort of brand to get tickets to this concert and i was just like you don't understand money cannot purchase you tickets to this no you can't any of the six concerts six yeah toronto's got six dates six at the rogers 49 000 people in the rogers center with their adjustments you know they took they took a couple thousand down with the new seats but so it's okay it's like 300 000 seats yep and the wait list is something like 22 million our media corporation isn't going to cover that i wouldn't expect you to

but she thinks like sonnet insurance is going to send me to a taylor swift game like they send me to a leaf game it's not going to happen i'm sorry sdpn isn't getting credentials for that or the no they're not no well you know what we deserve it for the nhl damn it you made a good point about windhorse i i mean if you pay attention to baseball this happens all the time with guys like ichiro who had reporters following for 15 years reporting back to japan show a show Joey's got it right now in LA. We went to an Angels-Blue Jays game, and I was like, we have to get a program so that I have physical evidence that I saw Shohei Ohtani play.

You went to an average regular season baseball game, and you looked at it as history. Because it is. Because it's the best baseball player of all time. Ever. Ever. Ever. We're watching greatness. They have reporters who cover that.

And then his elbow exploded. That's him. He's him. i think would it be out out of control to have somebody following conor bedard around this year would it be out of control reporters yeah no i know but like but only con mark lazarus i think a conor mcdavid a sydney crosby a a conor bedard like that's a story i would read every conor bedard article yeah every single one yeah that's called blackhawks game report well yeah i guess but they're but black blackhawks reporters gonna be like but we also have to talk about this shitty

team i don't know i hope not i mean that's what game reports should be this year for them i would love for for the nhl to have that it's like we you are that you are the you are the expert on sydney crosby always clown on these people for being demonstrably wrong about this topic but mcdavid's rookie year every comment section of every sports net video with mcdavid in it was oh mcdavid net but and they all got 50 bajillion views and you were wrong yeah people care also he should have won rookie of the year it's a joke and he should have won a hard trophy and when taylor hall won it and the only reason he didn't is because they didn't make the playoffs and that's so stupid yeah no the the rookie of the year thing i get he didn't play you know but

he was still sick like all the greats i mean he was on the mick yak poo line benoit pulliet and Neil Yakupov. I think he was pretty good. Yeah, but he didn't play enough games. 40-something. Yeah, he got that injury, right? Makes me mad. All the greats, I've been doing a lot of research this summer, because of course I have,

have fewer awards than they should have. Well, yeah, because they're... You'd think it'd be the other way around. It's inflated. For a lot of them, it's not. I think the only one that has as many awards as they deserved is probably Nick Lindstrom, who wanted Norris every year, didn't he?

He probably has fewer than he deserved. Yeah? Because there was a while where he was the perennial nominee. Like the perennial finalist. And they would just try not to give it to him. And then he got it. Yeah.

And then he got it, and then he got it. That's a weird thing about human beings. It's like he's objectively the best player, but we've given it to him three years in a row. We can't do it again. Possibly. Sometimes there's a glut of like five guys up for the same award every year.

And they sort of look at it like, this guy's never won one, and he should have. and they never really did that with like he did it with Drew Dowdy he was not the best defenseman the year he won no it was his Revenant it was like his third or fourth best who should have won it that year I don't remember that year I want to say it was Eric Carlson yeah

should have had that one yeah so yep I can't but he's already won it was a long time ago I hope Carlson gets a cup as the best defenseman he's already won it it'd be nice to see Eric Carlson get a cup if you could hand out an honorary cup they would have given Lundqvist one yes you know everyone's

oh it just sucks that he didn't well he didn't win it there's gonna be cj show had a really good chat about that and and i think the conversation was you know because i think a lot of the hall of fame inductees it was last year or is it this year regardless didn't win the cup and like can you be hall of fame if you didn't win and i think cj made a good point he's like listen with 32 teams and probably more coming it's difficult to say that somebody wasn't fantastic or amazing or one of the best players of their generation but didn't win because there's so many teams it's so hard you don't have

to dishonor the past but like there were six teams and then there were 16 teams or 12 teams and then 16 and then 21 well and it's like a lot different than 32 12 teams and six of them are expansion yeah

and get none of the players from the previous teams it's not like they had an expansion draft they're just like anybody else Bobby or just slicing and dicing through mailman yeah They did have an expansion draft, but it was not the same. Right. Right. Like just kicking ass against six very specific teams.

I bet the real Stanley Cup finals the year, you know, the jumping year where he scored the real Stanley Cup finals with the semifinals, whoever they beat in the semis. Probably. Probably. Because no offense to St. Louis, but the entire the way the NHL was set up was here's the original six teams in one conference. Yeah. And then everybody else, these new teams with these new players in the other conference.

And they would just carve their way through. The head-to-heads must have been wild. Oh, my God. Can I ask the press conference? Oh, yeah. Let's do the press conference. Have we fired the intro? Two quick ones.

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The Steve Dangle Press Conference. This one plays perfectly into what we were talking about earlier. just random k-town 2272 having to ask this on our discord server you get three legal poops in any cars you choose whose cars are you picking three legal poops yeah you have to go poop in three cars middle of summer that could be any time you want yeah i know but i would i would want middle of summer adam's adam's making him hard if it's frozen they can't smell anything all right three illegal poops who you're picking see adam's got it wrong you poop in their car in the winter so that they don't smell it and it stays there for longer oh they're just kind of

it doesn't just turn white yeah the dust it doesn't smell yeah oh adam i have some experience in this field no i'm kidding also what are you eating beforehand no no no kidding old nachos haha um which are all nachos anyway um uh okay well i'll start with vladimir putin i'd shit in his car i'd shit in his car for sure no like would i shit in his car without secret service protection probably not no no this is like imaginary will protect you you get to transport i'm not gonna die yeah he won't even know it's you okay all right no consequences yeah perfectly legal yeah shit in putin's car so i can't that's a good one you can pick putin that's a good one no no let's get different

answers damn i'm thinking i don't know if i want to go this route but mr ford doug ford does doug ford deserve a poop in the car sure after the green belt thing or the other things who else mark messier would you mark messier oh you stop oh no i can't pick mark messier damn no no i'm not shitting in mark messier you could pick i don't think he deserves a poop in the car i mean i wasn't there you were the victim but but frankly i just feel like that's a little extreme i'm trying to think of like who would pretend to have good humor about it but be so mad oh okay like a ben shapiro would be like no this is fine this is fine it means nothing to me but and then you realize he's the most mad yeah jordan peterson probably fits in

um that conversation you got to also pick people who would be so angry it would just be worth it for their hilarious reaction like like you know what i mean like somebody who's always riding on the edge always riding on the edge of anger i think it would be fun steve dangle actually you would be kind of funny if somebody shit in your car no don't do that your reaction i mean listen it'd be later that we would be able to laugh but we would laugh about it at the beginning but uh i definitely think it would be i mean no jesse and i would for sure laugh yeah it'd be we'd laugh right away but this is a tough question oh i would shit in elon musk's tesla in the cyber truck that's a good

one that is not ever going to be roadworthy that's a good one yeah no whatever car he drives most often okay you know that that's that cyber truck thing may not even happen like it's still don't exist well no they exist but they can't engineer it crash bandicoot ass car i thought it was i thought it was i'm like this is a fucking wild design and i like stuff like that but literally they can't put it on the road ps2 graphic yeah it is it is um so okay ben shapiro elon oh you're going with ben yeah i'm going with bench okay so you got two you got one more because it'd be really like he'd make so much content about it and he would just become the someone shit in my car guy that's how mad he'd be about it he'd stop talking about politics altogether yeah he would

only talk about the fact that i shit in his car that's all he would talk about and like i know like people are screaming at the screen right now brad marchand cory perry i have grudging respect for those players yeah like brad doesn't deserve that oh he doesn't deserve it's also like weird to me to say the name of a person i might meet like yeah um hmm damn and you stole mark messier you fucker you actual no i don't i don't want mark messier you can have him oh i have a shit mark messy yeah i don't want to do that he might be punch me in the face legitimately no it's no consequences no consequences he couldn't do that i mean there is a former boss but i don't want to say their name oh you can just say former boss

and a former boss so who are your three a former boss Ben Shapiro Elon Musk Elon Musk okay solid list

Jesse who you got I don't have I don't have a list you don't have three no I don't have three I can't think of a third name I don't have any

who's on my list he doesn't have any you asked the question and you won't answer it and Doug Ford I'm not doing either of those you're not shitting in either

those are jokes um i don't know this is too tough i'd have to i have to give this a good think all right i'm coming back to this friday then say the candidates for each major party so that everyone knows you're even yeah yeah you can't jagmeet justin you can't have politics um i feel like i feel like i feel like mine's solid i think putin is a good start yeah what are your other real good start um i uh yeah i'm trying to figure out in terms of like people that are sort of because you gotta it's got to be detestable it's got to be somebody that you like when you hear them you're like like you know they can't always go to the top no like you can't say trump but you can say rudy

giuliani man that guy is having his trunk shit in constantly right now the shit is man he's in trouble de sanctimonious is a good one yeah like ron de santos it could be on my list right in his rain boots yeah absolutely yeah you know i'll take that one i'll take uh desantis so you take him ted cruz oh really good one ted cruz damn it ted cruz who is masquerading as an american ted cruz is a canadian voting for him where's he born calgary calgary no way wow uh every calgarian right now i was like no he's not um there's that guy and then who else i'm trying to it's tough right because that's what i'm trying to say this is a hard question maddie who's your favorite artist ed sheeran actually he's up there like who are you listening to right

now yeah ed sheeran when he didn't fall off i was kind of hoping for like a quick answer but anderson pock love him shitting his car i'm not shitting in his car why would i shit in anderson pock's car because yeah that's not i don't like that answer no i don't like that great human i think that's funnier why pick the nicest person you can right in their car they would never expect it right in their car so yeah but like who are the most beloved celebrities think of all the followers like like i gotta think about this like like one of those 20 year old youtubers that has like

500 million dollars oh jake and logan i thought you were about to say mr beast no wow mr why do people hate mr beast what has he ever done no you know what because like he's really a nice he seems like a nice guy couldn't even bring myself to say when he does things nice for people people talk about him like no they should have stayed blind it's weird that that conversation

was so weird it was weird why are people against people what an asshole what a dick weirdly yeah i don't think they care man i don't he did it he did it in a way that i don't exactly agree with and wouldn't have done it that way myself i think those people who can now see are happy no no why are you granting them sight when this world is so painful to look at it's such a i don't know i got my three i got my three give it to me give it to me Ron DeSantis, Vince McMahon, and Jake Paul.

Vince McMahon. Good one. Good one. Yeah. Good one. Those are my three. People are probably screaming, like, why not Batman? I wouldn't shit in that guy's car.

Come on. Adam, who's your three? I don't want to shit in his car. Well, I got Putin. I got Ted Cruz, which I feel is a pretty strong one, too. Who are my three? Elon. Your boss.

Ben Shapiro. Oh, and my former boss. Okay, so I can't say former boss. Yeah, you can. You can. We said you could. Yeah. Yeah, but I didn't name him.

you don't know that's okay it's probably better that's a man probably better that you don't name him because i was gonna say the husband from uh that polygamous show oh uh uh 30 million kids and counting whatever they were called no the the what he's got the weird he's got the oh you mean on chad krueger hair yeah the guy that had like sister wives sister wives yeah shit in that guy's car well there you go uh he would not handle i'm surprised if you were going the reality show route that you wouldn't go james kennedy from vanderpump rules oh you hate james i'd shit in the driver's seat like you hate james kennedy hate him i've never seen someone who could kick less ass talk more shit yeah yeah cody brown is that cody brown that's his name from uh sister

wives yeah cody brown well that guy's on your list he's gonna be once he sits down better list yep there you go um i don't have another answer i think i'm happy with my team no you need a third i need a third you force me to get three okay all right man deshaun watson good one that's that is deshaun watson good one and i hope i hope he trips and falls into it that's a good one with his bare hand yeah yeah oh steven all right let's get to the next question jesse oh last question um this one was from doug the two goalies that competed against each other in the 2016

Stanley Cup final are under contract for the same team going into next season. What's the team? Sorry, one more time. The two goalies that competed against each other in the 2016 Stanley Cup final are under contract for the same team going into this season. Who was the 2016? That was Pittsburgh, right?

It was Pittsburgh-San Jose. Reimer was the back... Oh, get the out of here it's the leafs it's matt murray and uh martin jones no way yeah the 2016 stanley cup final that's not goalies are on the uh same team i'm sorry i've forgotten like i was thinking like where's matt murray playing now forgetting completely of course that he's not playing for the i completely forgot so

doug followed that up and said can you name another instance where two former cup combatant goaltenders ended up on the same team after their cup final. After their cup final. And we got two, we got one instance. One instance. Can I have a year?

I can't. Hold on. Let me look. Let me look. He's going to look. He's going to look. I can figure out the year. because i mean well quick signed with the rangers but it hasn't played there yet 2014 2014 cup final so no no no 2014 is the year they were on the same team together oh oh i can you want me to tell you the cup year uh yeah so i'll give you the cup here uh what 2011 the two goalies from the 2011 cup final tim thomas and roberto luongo were on the same team together florida in florida in florida

in no way what year 2013 20 i shouldn't i shouldn't give you the final because that's the whole thing yeah that yeah that's the whole goal is yeah i never would have guessed ever i remember tim they were a panther i don't remember them being they were on the same team i guess in 2014 um there was like a week this is what doug said there was like a week where the florida panthers had both tim thomas and roberto luongo before trading thomas to dallas uh yes and he had the really weird equipment setup it was like red jersey green pads or something or no it might have been the opposite all right he looked really strange so i assume because that trade that thomas to dallas trade happened in 2014 so i assume it was that year he did have some he wore

some weird jerseys after boston longo was still in florida oh yeah right yeah yeah he had just been when was the tortorella vesna lost his job uh best goalie on the planet wins a cup doesn't attend the white house and then like sort of just disappeared within three years Would you shit in his car? Crazy career. Yeah. No. He's a different dude.

He'd catch it before. But I wouldn't shit in his car. That's a different dude. That's all. Thanks for answering. No problem. The Steve Dangle Podcast. Follow the guys on Twitter

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