The Steve Dangle Podcast - Canucks Trade Quinn Hughes To Minnesota Wild! | Instant Analysis

Episode Date: December 13, 2025

The Vancouver Canucks have traded Quinn Hughes to the Minnesota Wild for Liam Öhgren, Marco Rossi, Zeev Buium, and a Minnesota's 2026 1st round pick. Steve Dangle and Jesse Blake are here to break... it all down. Share your thoughts in the comments below! Visit this episode's sponsors: Add flair to your game-day attire with official lululemon x Fanatics NHL Sports apparel from Fanatics! Visit https://www.fanatics.com/ to wear your pride on your sleeve. Watch all episodes of The Steve Dangle Podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLk7FZfwCEidkgWpSiHVkYT7HrIzLPXlY Watch clips of The Steve Dangle podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLk7FZfwCEieOJuIrqWyZPWSIJtVMCbLz Buy SDP merch https://sdpnshop.ca/ Check out https://sdpn.ca/events to see The Steve Dangle Podcast live! Watch hockey with us! Live on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLk7FZfwCEifCTX0vkKEaGg9otrW4Zl2k Subscribe to the sdpn YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@sdpn?sub_confirmation=1Join Subscribe to SDP VIP!: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0a0z05HiddEn7k6OGnDprg/join Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/thestevedanglepodcast Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sdpvip/subscribe - Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Join us on Discord: https://discord.com/invite/MtTmw9rrz7 For general inquiries email: info@sdpn.ca Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:53 gear up with the best full disclosure to everyone listening or watching right now the steve dangle podcast like just went up as the trade for quinn hughes broke it's quinn hughes to minnesota i'll read the full trade for you before we start talking about everything quinn hughes to minnesota for Marco Rossi, Zeev Booyam, Liam Ogrind, and a 2026 first round pick. The podcast recorded, everything happens all day. And of course, afterwards, the biggest news that we've had in like, what,
Starting point is 00:03:28 a couple of years of NHL transaction talk breaks and Quinn Hughes is a Minnesota Wild. Steve Dangle, initial thoughts. Initial thought is that there will not be a bigger trade this year because I think it'd be impossible. you get i mean on his worst day a top three defenseman in the world probably top two if you ask a certain uh pocket of canucks fans and now minnesota wild fans top one um so those guys
Starting point is 00:03:58 don't become available definitely not when they're 26 definitely not with a year and a half left on their contract going the other way is four legitimate futures you can you can quibble with rossi he's still very young maybe you i guess you call him a present liam ogren that's a big deal uh zero points in 18 games so far this nhl season but his ahl numbers are very very good and my guess is the canucks either develop him on their very very good ahl team or at least it's shown to be a good program to the reigning calder cup champs or more likely he gets a very large uh bit of playing time on the vancouver canucks uh zeve bulliam is the the big one here a 2026 first i think is good for both parties with minnesota it minimizes the risk with vancouver you know
Starting point is 00:04:55 we're rebuilding let's get it on with or let's let's get on with it right um it's not down the road 2027 2028 2029 zeve bulliam in most other seasons there would be more calder noise around him i think it's that minnesota is so good uh he's buried behind so many guys and matthew shaffer is a complete revelation um and lane hudson is the reigning calder trophy winner okay maybe zeev william hasn't lived up to lane hudson maybe he hasn't lived up to matthew schaefer who's been one of the best rookie defensemen we've seen in at least a quarter century he's performing very very well at a very young age this is a great player and the one player minnesota wild fans who i've spoken to producer hayden um are worried about from this trade liam ogren you could convince
Starting point is 00:05:58 yourself uh it's not going to be that big of a deal marco rossi ah you know what we spent all summer thinking he was going to get traded anyway the 2026 first rounder ah we assumed they were gonna trade that anyway zeve bulliam is the one part that hurts the reason it doesn't hurt is you get quinn hughes that's exactly it if you're if we start with the minnesota side because i think we can start there and then we can go really deep into everything this means uh for vancouver and all of the fallout that's gonna happen if you're trading one of your best players in franchise history but on the minnesota side of things this is i think such a fabulous trade because you look at the roster like yesterday what you're really taking out of the roster is ogren who was playing
Starting point is 00:06:45 on the third line and but he's a prospect but like if we're trying to win today it's a third line winger his role on this year's team is super replaceable right exactly and rossi was injured wasn't in the most recent lineup so you're removing that plus that's a replaceable center you can find that depth and then bullion as you mentioned is a left-handed defenseman so you're replacing this project of a defenseman with Quinn freaking Hughes so there's your upgrade and this makes their team better today and makes them a serious Stanley Cup contender yeah like you're not gonna get Quinn Hughes in this trade for Quinn Hughes um but if you can get 75 percent of Quinn Hughes you're well on your way the list of guys in the world who could hope to be that
Starting point is 00:07:33 is maybe five players long and Zeev Williams probably one of them um I like there's got to be a mourning period for Vancouver Canucks fans they haven't had very long to contend with this news they haven't had very long to accept that this was an inevitability maybe a likelihood maybe something that happens by the end of the season maybe something that happens in the summer or at the draft this came together very very fast yeah um so i don't expect vancouver fans to be over the moon right now this is a good haul i think for quinn hughes but if you're minnesota like one thing i've mocked all year and you'll like this jesse is the idea that early in the season in november and early to mid-december oh it's just it's impossible to make moves it's
Starting point is 00:08:26 impossible well now you have to six sorry four of the top seven teams in the nhl are in the western conference three of them are in the central division colorado is number one at 51 points dallas is number two at 47 minnesota who's seven two and one in their last 10 look out they're seventh yeah tied with uh the ducks and actually tied with the vegas golden knights and they have more wins than the golden knights dude you're like unless you feel like getting absolutely pounded in the first or second round you got to make this move and this gives you two crazy cracks at it and what's more important for the minnesota wild in context is it gives you a really good crack at having a good deep playoff run before kirill kaprizov's contract extension
Starting point is 00:09:29 kicks in yeah and i like i love this move because these are the types of moves that win you championships it's we gave up a lot of hey this could be really special and we think a couple of those guys will be special but we're guaranteed one of the best players in the game and to win championships you need the best players in the game on your team and the minnesota wild clearly looked at the western conference i love that you brought that up where they are in the standings the the west and how loaded they are at the top and they say we can't compete with the colorados of the world let's get better we need to get better now if this is who we are going to be and signing caprizo off to that giant extension that they did pre-season or at the beginning of
Starting point is 00:10:13 the season was them throwing their hat in the ring of like we're serious to be contending here for a long time and then this is doubling down on that we're going out here and it might only be a year and a half that they have quinn hughes but during this next half year and next year they're going to be in the conversation amongst every top team in this league and that's the position they put themselves in by making this trade here today i love it and you can't be second on this kind of thing like people are forgetting the stars who are second um where are one of the teams rumored to being on nasm cadre right and in their last 10 so i brought that up colorado 7-1-2 the stars are 8-1-1 and minnesota 7-2-1 this is an arms race yeah exactly this is awesome yeah for the
Starting point is 00:10:59 division it's awesome for the conference it's awesome for the league it's awesome for hockey and how funny is it that like we we all had the biggest distraction the biggest red herring about a week ago with quinn hughes going oh yeah fitzy talking about tom fitzgerald we got the wrong team usa executive it ended up being bill garren who like this is a huge huge move and and and i like the point that you made like what are you really taking off of the current minnesota wild roster like we we know we know the ramifications going forward but like quinn hughes is young enough that assuming you sign him to an extension that'd be very nice uh i think it offsets a lot of the hurt there um he's you could argue he hasn't even entered his prime yet um and
Starting point is 00:12:00 if he hasn't he's right smack dab uh in the middle of it like what a we were all barking up the wrong tree we're looking at the metro division i don't remember how many um uh western conference teams were even really talked about um in this whole discourse everyone's got their own information or whatever this came completely out of left field and what i gotta know is like is the holiday deadline tomorrow or something but like what happened yeah with the the oilers with the two trades and uh the preds and the penguins and now this huge thing like this is just incredible and you know it's funny we recorded two extra episodes today and we were talking about uh team usa and who might be on that team and what the forward lines might be and what the pairs might be uh
Starting point is 00:12:59 Quinn Hughes and Brock Faber playing together is a great point, is a decent little guess. Oh, yeah. On account of now their teammates, one shoots left, the other shoots right. And oh, also Boldy on their team. Jeez. Yeah. And the GM, as you mentioned, is GMing Team USA. Sometimes life throws your curveballs and you don't have time to get to them. And that's where TaskRabbit comes in. And I think you should check this out because here's the deal. One of the things, one of the weird quirks about my condo building is that they use my floor to rappel down and clean all the windows, but they never clean my windows. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And their way around on that is like, well, it's a patio window. You can do that yourself. And I'm like, well, hang on a second. What if I don't want to? I don't have the stuff because you've got to have that scraper thing and the washer thing. The chemicals. You've got to have the right chemicals. See, that's what I'm saying.
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Starting point is 00:14:33 You should download that. TaskRabbit.ca. Code DANGLE. Two in five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar raised matters. On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation Walk. Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research together we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer register today at pmcfwalk.ca so yeah on the team that is currently 32nd in the league this is a sad day for Canucks fans because this was such a slow burn the Quinn Hughes looking at the camera like he doesn't want to be there at all and not admitting that he doesn't
Starting point is 00:15:23 want to be there because he can't do that but everybody kind of knowing he doesn't want to be there and then this player you think is going to be in your life for the next eight years because they'll sign into a massive extension because he's that good all of a sudden band-aid is ripped off you're a Canucks fan and that guy's gone that's got to be really sad but you look at your franchise and you say okay this is better than being middling at least we're not just trying to piecemeal together an eighth seed team or a tenth seed team at least now we know we're trying to be young and kind of bad maybe for a little bit and rebuild this thing up to what it can be and back into a playoff team well here's where copium comes into play jesse because i like calgary flames fans
Starting point is 00:16:12 the flames by the way the next team uh at 31st in the league matthew kachuk wasn't staying he wasn't he did not want to um you get a 100 plus point player in jonathan huberdo and a really versatile defenseman in mackenzie wieger all things considered not bad uh they made a couple mistakes there number one i don't think they anticipated jonathan huberdo's point total getting cut in half um and also point total drop in the history of the nhl yep after the best season the most productive season by a left winger in nhl history um i that's not happening here because that was present for present yes that was the florida panthers trying to take advantage of a situation and paying a very steep price for it and also they didn't want
Starting point is 00:17:11 to pay huberto the money that uh he wanted but the flames they either won the division or the president's trophy they finished very high up in the standings and could you get futures for matthew kachuk a couple or three years ago whatever it was yeah you probably could have they didn't want futures they wanted to stay competitive now as far as a futures package goes for the canucks you know the the conversation is is this enough and i don't think that's the right question the the right question is who on earth could have offered you a better package again we were barking up the wrong tree with like the metro division we had an in-depth conversation about the carolina hurricanes today not them yeah that's the example i wanted to bring
Starting point is 00:18:05 up because as you mentioned on the on the podcast i said okay something like a jackson blake stankovin a couple first round picks sort of deal gets you something similar you know like you're we're piecemealing together some sort of package that can look like this package that they accepted for quinn hughes but this is a pretty good hole for that player maybe you want a couple more picks in there you want some just lower draft picks thrown in for the good of it but in terms of young talent that has a potential to be the cornerstones of a franchise you're getting three good chances at that very good chances and not to mention uh the minnesota wild 2026 first rounder you know what's crazy is they could be one and done because think about it
Starting point is 00:19:00 who are the top three in the central gonna be it's gonna be colorado it's gonna be dallas and it's going to be minnesota you put them in whatever order you want that means unless minnesota wins their division which right now they are 12 points back of yeah because colorado can't lose hockey games you're going to be playing against dallas or colorado in the first round yeah oh my god so that could be a middle of the pack first round draft pick that could be if you're out in the first round that could be like 20th maybe a little lower than middle but like it could be relatively early 20s. It could be.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I'm getting lost in the weeds here. No one was offering you, who's got a better prospect available than Zeev Booyam? And who can justify giving up a prospect like Zeev Booyam? Well, probably a team
Starting point is 00:19:54 who's about to acquire Quinn Hughes. Oh, this creates such a what? Like, he was going to be the what of your future? Quinn Hughes? right so uh i think this is a you know we always want to talk about won and lost i think this is two teams really achieving their purpose here this is the wild uh entering a competitive window here for the next two years you know for not not uh you know forget the central division like conor
Starting point is 00:20:30 mcdavid signed a contract everyone's ripping on the oilers this year the contract is to win the cup next year or the year after when when the salary cap skyrockets and he's still at 12 and a half the west is a buzzsaw yeah and you can't just sit there and stay mediocre and and hope something's gonna happen you gotta go out and get the biggest fish available and this fish doesn't come around very often at this age at this point in their career for this cost um and the canucks this really speeds their rebuild up um i think like first round picks even if you hit when are they coming into your lineup when are they coming into their prime boy you're waiting there a long time yeah and rossi rossi's instantly your one c by the way
Starting point is 00:21:24 instantly over david kauf are you sure maybe like we gotta we gotta we gotta ask the question like who's their is eve bullion their 1d like he might be their their 1ld right like especially if they trade even more and get even younger like this is a tough day this is a tough day for Canucks fans if you're a huge Quinn Hughes fan if you're a Canucks fan you probably are but this is much better than middling I'm happy that Jim Rutherford has finally picked a path which is we know we're bad let's get rid of the talent we have for something else because we won't be able to lock up this talent and this is when Quinn Hughes would be the most valuable this is when you're going to get the most for him because this is the longest he'll be locked up
Starting point is 00:22:16 on this expiring deal so overall i'm glad for canucks fans that it seems like the franchise has finally picked something and jim rutherford's always been one to move early rather than late so he he follows that here again steve to wrap us up sure give me your grade on the trade what are you giving me for each side and then we will end this i mean they both get uh a for balls um we're gonna give them both a for balls um the canucks i'm gonna give a solid honestly a minus like i think they did really really well here um and minnesota uh you came out of nowhere to get quinn hughes like how's that not a plus a plus um i i wanted to uh just reiterate the excellence of quinn hughes since he came into the league he is fourth amongst
Starting point is 00:23:18 defensemen in points behind only kale mccarr at 465 roman yosi at 444 headman at 442 quinn hughes has 432 but he's done it in something like 75 fewer games than headman he's played fewer games than yosi he's at 0.94 points per game headman is at 0.85 yosi is at 0.89 as far as i can tell the only guy with a better one is cal mccarr so it's those two one and two and however you rank that Minnesota just got the one or two defensemen in the world. Steve Dangle, thank you for joining
Starting point is 00:24:04 and giving the world some content on your Friday night. You as well, Jesse Blake. Let's hope that for your sake and your sanity, Bradshaw Living gets in on the action. No, I'm worried about him making a trade of this magnitude.
Starting point is 00:24:23 We saw what happened. You brought up the Kachuk trade. So maybe not. Yeah, no, no. Love the spirit, though. Two in five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar raised matters. On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation Walk.
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