The Steve Dangle Podcast - Carrick's Fuel | August 9, 2019

Episode Date: August 10, 2019

Today on the Steve Dangle Podcast, New Jersey Devils defensemen Connor Carrick joins the show! (00:00), Igor Ozhiganov's weird butt licking comments (44:00), Jesse went to Mexico and Steve's going to Florida (53:00), Antonio Brown might quit football (1:10:00), David Goggins tells you not to use sunscreen (1:20:00), and SDP trivia plus live appearance dates! (1:37:00). Originally aired: August 9, 2019 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/nTZSXY6Mz18 Merch: https://teespring.com/en-GB/stores/fancydangleshirts Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Subscribe to us on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/steve-dangle-podcast/id669828195?mt=2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Panago Pizza presents SCP, the Steve Dangle Podcast, with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde. Man, how long has it been? How long has it been since we had an NHL player who's currently playing in the NHL on this show? How long has it been since we did a podcast at all? It's been a while. Did you go to Mexico? Came back? I did. Yeah, like, this was the exact day that everyone started to get antsy. Yes.

Like, my mentions are just like, Oi! Where's the podcast? Give me an effing pot. It's, like, threatening, though. It's not even nice. It's like, yo, you guys are really slacking in these summer months, eh? I'm like, LeBron's off, Johnston's off, everybody's off, and it's like, we're in that era.

We're not in that realm, but I'm just saying. No, we're higher. Come on. Yeah, exactly. Hey, hey. And they would say that. We're 400 subscribers away from 30,000. Whoa, that's a big deal.

How many subscribers does Elliott Friedman have? Zero. None. Garbage. I wonder if our guest, who everybody's super pumped about, would subscribe to us on YouTube. I'm not really sure. I assume he already does. Okay. Well, I hope so. His name is Connor Carrick. Welcome to the show, Connor Carrick!

Woo! Hi, Connor. Subscribe on YouTube. I don't know if I'll ever subscribe to anybody, but I'd be more than happy to help you guys out and teach me. So I just gotta learn

how to keep it up, you know? Well, Steve, I don't know if you know this or not, noted YouTuber, could probably help you out a little bit. And I mean, listen, the way your Instagram's going,

we could start you a YouTube channel and take off in no time. You know, I did, I thought Steve was a hot, I saw his Instagram, his breakaway the other day. I thought he was a player. You didn't know

it was that good, right? No, I just figured with Dangle in the name, he had serious games. And, yeah, I saw the video. It speaks for itself, man. No, it sure does. That goalie really, really brought his A game, didn't he? I'm so fast. I was doing my best Connor Carrick impression because I was playing right D,

but somehow my first goal was on a breakaway. And playing right D leading the rush. That's how I built my career. that's how steve plays uh in in the ea nhl games too do you play those like the like the video game yeah or the ones that you know i i'm not a video game guy um never got into it i was it was an unpopular part of the room to be in um you know i was with the pretty uh nerdy group i'll go that far started all the gamers it's not my uh not my style and I just wonder if you like act if you move yourself up the line like for me if it was me

I'm putting myself on the top pairing right away right away video game yeah yeah absolutely I'm not saying I was always that stiff like I used to play and uh you know I would I don't think I've had an attribute under 99 if that's what we're getting at in real life too in real Now I'm just picturing, like, the whole room talking about, like, Fortnite or whatever. And Connor's walking in and going, hey, you guys read the Daily Stoic? Is that your... That's a good start. 101.

That's pretty accurate. That's pretty accurate. When did that changeover happen for you? You said you weren't always that stiff. Like, you know, and I'm using your words because I don't think you're stiff. But I do want to know, like, was there a change in your career? I read one of your Instagram posts, I think it was two days ago, and it's you at the gym and you're talking about your goals and everything that you do right now is, is will I win the Stanley Cup? Will this help me win the Stanley Cup?

If it's a yes, then keep doing it. If it's a no, then I'm not even going to think about it. When did that mindset change for you? You know, that's a little bit, you know, I don't think I'm stiff either. I just think self-deprecation is in right now. But, you know, I used to kind of have an idea of what an athlete should look like. And it's funny, as hockey players, I'm sure other guys can attest to this. You know, I'm not the biggest guy.

I'm not someone that, you know, if I were to walk in, you know, to a restaurant or whatever, you know, it's not like the whole place turns and everyone wonders, you know, hey, I wonder what that guy does. You know, he looks like a wide receiver or, you know, a pro hockey player or a basketball player or whatever. Um, and for whatever reason, when I would train, you know, I felt like I needed to look and be something particularly look, you know, I felt like I should be this, you know, a big, tall, shredded looking pro athlete. And at the end of the day, you know, the best hockey players in the world, you know, yes, being lean and all that's important. Being strong is important. You know, but the game is not played in a weight room.

You know, and that's kind of always been the joke of guys that don't care to work out. You know, they've never scored from a bench press, you know, and I agree with that. And I think it's just I appreciate the art of the game more now than I ever have. And I think that's a little bit, I've lost a little bit of that. You know, when I, probably when I went into the U.S. team, just because it was such a, like a factory feel. You'd go in, and I did love the U.S. team, but it was, you're going to go in, you're going to go to work, you're going to come out a freak,

you know, kind of like Frankenstein. It's just like a, you know, a creation of this beast. And, you know, physically, which I always appreciated. And I don't know, I've never minded working out. I've always kind of liked it. Um, but just my focus this summer is the game, uh, the skill of the game, the detail of the game, all that, uh, probably more than ever. So how, how important is coffee to, to your summer training regimen?

I need to know. And, and do you have cashew milk in your, in your coffee or whatever it's called? Yeah. You, you Canadians throw a Y in that word. You know, apparently the, the milk, milk dilemma, uh, needs a clarification. Is that a Canadian thing? Yeah, we say milk instead of milk. He's right.

He's right. And pillow instead of pillow. What? Yeah, we do that. We do that. He's right. You throw the Y in cashew milk, too. Like, it's usually M-Y-L-K.

And I don't know what that is. I don't know what that is. We don't know either, man. We don't know either. Were you shocked when you saw bagged milk for the first time? But, no, coffee's a big deal for me. I start every day, you know, with the Chemex, the Baking Bad look, Traption on my Instagram.

It started as I was playing in Hershey, and I actually feel bad. We had a trainer who would make this coffee, and it was inside this thermos called the Cocoa Beanery. It was the logo on the front. And the coffee was so bad that I would never go to this Cocoa Beanery. I'm like, I think what happened was they were supplying the Hershey Bears with coffee on game day. and it was so weak

it was like bean water it was not but when that's what's available right so what I found out was it was actually just our trainer who liked really weak coffee was making it so I apologize that I never gave my business to the Cocoa

Beanery but I never went once based off this story and I found like Tim Horton's cake cups at a bed bath and beyond and all the Canadians I played with you know had never uh figured out a way to get them into the states and you know in a way that was convenient or whatever so i was kind of the star in the room that week uh the bed bath and beyond was pretty well sold out at tim horton's k-cups because we you know it was the cocoa

beanery or the curic was our coffee uh you know brewing uh mechanisms of choice and then i just kept working my way up from there and i was gifted a french press and i started jamming the chemex and it's been game over ever since wow wow were you shocked when you saw bagged milk for the first time yeah i i had heard the term you know when guys would because it's a it's a derogatory term you know when a guy is maybe a little overweight right like i'd heard canadians call like another teammate like a milk bag you know yeah body like a bag of milk yeah i wasn't positive what i wasn't i wasn't positive uh what in the world they were talking about um that's amazing oh you owe me that you're you're cutting out my friend do you mind saying

that again i just had never seen it before so the first grocery store i went to where they had the the milk bags i was it all clicked for me on what you know the uh the team jokes are talking about hey so you know it's it's funny because i i've always we've always kind of joked about the fact that there's this magical line between the united states and canada and for some reason you passed this made up completely ridiculous like decided in 1812 and never really changed and we're not really sure why it's there anyway and there's really no physical barrier between the two countries but things instantly change when you cross the border on both sides when you came to canada for the first time were you expecting it to be all that different and was it more different

than you thought it would be or was it kind of like oh this is this is pretty much what we were thinking I would never I would never like feel it

I definitely felt it when I watched TV like the advertisements were just so different and I can't place I just feel like they're goofier in Canada I don't know how to describe it

and then there would be like weird moments in which I I'm in a foreign country I guess I guess it doesn't really feel foreign

but you know um and i just went through it a little bit you know we get paid in us dollar all my you know banking and that was in us dollars so i just went through the pain of you know paying rent in canadian and transferring money over and you know things like that that was probably the the starkest contrast yep um and then trying to think like the aero bar i was a pretty big fan of that back in the day when uh you know growing up um you know up to toronto so i was pretty happy that had access to that all the time. That wasn't real popular.

Can you even eat those as a pro athlete? Yeah, are you allowed? Are you allowed to have that? Are you allowed to have a beer? No, it voids your contract. Holy boy. Yeah, that was a little Lou Lamorello loophole there. Some guy puts a burlap sack over your head

and voids your contract. The reason I ask is that I remember Nazem Khadrig coming into the season a couple years ago, and I think it would have been your first season, like first full season in a Leaf jersey. And so just after the Winnick trade, and you, I think it was everybody, it was a young team. It was an exciting team. We had no idea what was going to happen.

And everybody, there was this huge article on Nazem Kadri about how he's a different physical specimen than he had been the year before. And he was talking about how he gave up cookies. And I guess that makes a huge difference. you know it's uh your diet is just a big collection of habits and and i don't know if there's anything more personal um you know but naz had a pretty good year that year um of cookies was all it took good for him some of us out there are trying to figure out you know who's how to know who's where on the ice and that naz has only got to worry about Now it's not the chocolate chip cookies that you don't have.

Well, you know, so I do want to know because, you know, we hear so much. And it's funny, like, you know, I'm sure you're used to this talking to the Toronto media. But there is sort of like an italicized Toronto when you talk about the Toronto media, right? In hockey, I mean, it is one of the centers of the media universe in hockey, if not the center. I mean, obviously, you know, Chicago, New York, Boston, probably be pretty, pretty hot on that scale, too. But, you know, for you and jumping in and having played in Washington a bit, played in Toronto and now having played in Jersey, you know, what's it what was it like? What's what's what's it like market to market? Like, is is the Toronto media that bad?

And is it does it actually deter people from wanting to play here? Because that's something that we hear a lot. now i think role on the team matters really uh you know quite a bit to this um this question just because you know i i was not a 50 goal scorer believe it or not guys with the toronto maple leaf so you know i had my fair share of media um but you know in terms of discomfort you know the the hardest part was just in small locker rooms there were a lot of you and, you know, I had to try and untie my skates quickly so I wasn't, you know, in the way of other interviews or whatever.

I never saw it. I can imagine, you know, I still follow the team. I still have a lot of friends that are Toronto Maple Leafs. I personally love the idea that, you know, you just felt like it was a big deal being a Maple Leaf, and that was validated by, you know, how many people are in the stands how the organization treated you um you know it was first class all the way that's what was expected i know that it was the culture that we had in that room uh that we were going to try and give you know our fan base in the city you know the best

we could and win a stanley cup and we weren't able to do it you know when i was there um personally i'd say no because it goes the other way too like there as an nhl player we all grew up as fans and we went to games and then we enjoyed the big crowds and that's what you want to play on in front of you want to play in front of people that care and uh i always found it to be a privilege is there a day you know you're tired back to back or or maybe in practice you got back skated whatever and do you not want to answer a question about you know the turnover you had last night in the last six minutes yeah maybe but you know the answer to the question was not the hard part you know sleeping after the turnover was was more demanding than that

kind of uh i don't know that makes a lot of sense yep i get it oh dude i know i make turnovers in video games that i think about for the rest of the night i can't go to bed what's what's uh what's the biggest difference sorry what's that connor that's why i quit playing him i couldn't take it yeah yeah exactly steve has broken controllers oh i have and friendships ended friendships what's what's the biggest difference uh no longer being on a team managed by lou lamorella what's what's the what's the freedom you have now well i'm growing this massive beard um no um you know i thought lou was great i i if you're running an organization i think you need you know kind of rules and expectations and you're better off being um overly clear with

those than than not communicating those at all and Lou was all pretty clear about you know what he wanted and where he stood and I don't think uh if you ever crossed Lou I don't think it was like eternal punishment you know like he let you know what he was unhappy with and over um you know it was interesting just uh seeing the different dynamic you know like in in Washington George McPhee treated me really well when I was really young Lou talked to me more you know man of man every time that that we talked you know Tim McClellan wasn't around much in Washington wasn't he didn't have a very personal element to his management style just a little bit I was called up there um you know Jim Nill was was very cordial and treated me with great respect in

Dallas uh I've had you know a good I don't know I guess you'd call it a good relation none of them have uh you know it's funny I said everyone my mom after every contract asked you know after I sign are you happy with it and I'd say you know mom I asked for 10 years 10 million per but they said no so I'm pretty happy with what I got and now after a pair of trades you're uh with the New Jersey Devils and I and I just want to know how excited you are to be uh one of the four amazing right-handed D they have they have you Subban uh Damon Severson and also of course nikita kusev yeah i was uh i'm thank you for saying amazing if i had an arbitration case you know a strong team you want to be on a competitive team in the nhl you want to be

with playoff hopes and expectations um you know i think uh ray shiro's had a busy you know off season where he was, you know, wheeling and dealing and trying to make his team better, and it sounded like at the end of the year meeting that that was his expectation for himself, and now it's on us players as a group. You know, we haven't started, you know, training camp

or anything like that, but I'm imagining, you know, everyone in the Devils organization is a bit to get going. Well, I mean, the Devils had, I think, from pretty much everybody, it's pretty, they had the best offseason of the whole league. I mean, like, I don't think there's a team that

added more talent without giving up much. Subban, Gusev, Simmons, they kept Carrick. Yep, and that's in all seriousness, like it's a deep, deep team and obviously Taylor Hall's the guy that's going to be the big

question mark going into this season. I won't ask you about that because what are you going to say? But, you know, obviously there's got to be and I don't know how this feels for you, but if you're going If you're going back into Toronto with a team like the Devils, how strong the Devils are, Connor,

does it get you excited to be like, okay, all my friends are over there, and I got a team that can absolutely match and beat these guys any night? Is there a little bit of that competitive edge, like I'm going out there and I'm giving just a little bit more tonight? I mean, absolutely. I just think the NHL has so many games

that naturally there's going to be ones that just catch your eye first on the calendar. And, you know, the Leaf games are always, you know, big games for me. The games against Chicago, because that's where we're from, are always big games. You know, Dallas will be important, you know, now that I've got a little history there. Washington was who drafted me. I think I'm running out. You know, but you want to – I'm competitive with my friends. I wanted to beat them in practice.

I wanted to beat them, you know, when we played the Leafs early last year and Los Angeles wanted to beat them, absolutely. I want to beat every team I play against. But no question, it's better when you're going on a little fight with a bigger gun. And the hope is that it's New Jersey for a team to be reckoned with this year. Well, and I want to know how you're going to prepare to play a player who you played with last year

and he's probably going to be in the running for Leafs MVP this year. I want a scouting report on Kenny Agostino. What can Leaf fans expect out of him? Kenny's a great dude. He worked real hard getting the puck back down the stretch. He was a little bit on that second power play unit that we had. We were a pretty thin rundown with injuries at the end. Kenny's a good dude.

I got a decently intimate understanding of his game. 20 games is not nothing, but I haven't seen him scare out. So hopefully he can, you know, grab a spot, you know, in that lineup and run with it and a lot of great players to develop chemistry with. And I know there's been some departures, so, you know, I'm not overly familiar with the depth chart, but I'm wishing Kenny Augustine all the best, man. That's cool.

He's going to be great. He's going to be the best on the Stanley Cup champion in Toronto Maple Leafs who beat the New Jersey Devils in the Eastern Conference Final, I assume. And you know what I want to hear after that What's that? After that blood feud in the Eastern Conference Final I want to hear Conor Carrick on his own podcast And you've sort of been alluding to that

Is that going to happen? So, I worked with a guy actually that Barry reached out And kind of said, you know, Conor you know what you're trying to do with your platform and you know the positivity and sort of inspiration to to make good on that inspiration turn into action because i want to help you so i have a little uh documentary that i'm going to upload i'm going to compete with you steve on youtube well now okay okay eventually you know i i would uh i'm definitely considering the works of of a podcast that's showing here i don't mind talking at length i think that's a prerequisite

um i enjoy talking hockey so it'll you know that there'll always be a component to that that's a core part of who I am is that love for the game you know but I also enjoy you know discussing other avenues and that was other other areas of growth and well-being mental physical you know kind of spiritual and I really dove into that when I was you know out of the lineup quite a bit as a Maple Leaf um you know I think that the human spirit wants to you know experience you know growth and and challenge and you know when i was kind of out of the lineup i wasn't getting the evaluation uh every day out of the sport that i was accustomed to i wasn't getting the satisfaction of good job bad job i wasn't getting uh tested as frequently and you know to try and maintain

a positive mindset i i really started to dig deep and we call them adversity reads you know guys he'll kind of mess with a teammate when they're walking back on the plane and that guy had a bad game and he'll be reading the adversity read I had quite a few of those out it was definitely a time period in my career where I wasn't thrilled

with where I was my podcast might be featuring some of that, my thoughts in and around well-being and personal growth it'll be as much as a learning experience for me

as you know i enjoy talking about it i hope to have people on it i can learn from as well as just putting something good in the world you know i'd like to think that i can contribute to communities or part of that way well i think that would be a much list or a must listen you know i think that that's something that connor i know you're no stranger to this there's a culture around the nhl and we always compare it to what the nba and the nfl are doing where there seems to be uh you better get in lockstep with the team you better not say too much uh or you're going to be in trouble or ostracized or whatever and therefore when anybody makes any sort of comment that's somewhat borderline interesting which is rare yeah not even controversial not even

interesting just ah and especially like in places like toronto as you've seen you know it can get blown up and taken out of context because we're just dying for somebody to say something. What do you think the reasons are for the, like, because in the NBA, it happens all the time. You've got NBA players starting, like, five or six different Instagram

accounts so they can defend themselves on Stephen A. Smith's Instagram comments. You got, you know, you got NBA executives who are telling people to stop criticizing their shirt, you know, and then, you know, in hockey, it's like, it's just this very kind of closed off, quiet,

and you rarely hear candid answers. Is there a reason for that, do you think? You know, hockey's always had an admirable tradition that's built into the game. It's a little bit of a fall-in-line game. It's playing the game the right way, you know, playing a way that serves your teammates, acting a way that serves your team,

and I think that'll be preserved. Hopefully it never leaves hockey. I don't think it will. You know, basketball historically just had more players, but I don't know necessarily if they had louder personalities or they were just more willing to share that, you know, aspect of themselves. I think hockey is that the players in today's game are receiving more pressure to be more of themselves as a way to grow the game. And that's kind of my view on it. I think as players, we're all celebrities to some extent. We're all, you know, come from, you know, groups of friends and family that supported us growing up

and kind of had our hometowns and our home ranks. People care who we are there. And if you reach a big enough level of success, you know, people tend to gravitate towards you. So I just think as a player, I have a responsibility to leave the game better than it was when I arrived. And I think that that fan connection is so easily made and accessible nowadays. And every player dips their toe into social media anyway. Like every player is on, you know, one of them, Twitter or Snapchat or Instagram, and they check it more than they'd honestly answer.

You know, I've been on the team buses. I know what guys are on their phones doing. I just think as players, and we've seen it. We've seen the NBA grow at such a rate. There's such a recognizability to the game. I'm not a huge NBA fan, but I know where Kawhi Leonard signed. I'm sorry, Toronto fans. I know about the Raptors.

I know who Steph Curry is. I know who his wife is. I know who James Harden is. And I've watched very minimal basketball in the last 12 to 24 months. But there's just a way information kind of subliminally is released through different channels that you learn and follow the league. And that turns into revenue for the league. It turns into attention.

And we have a great game in the NHL. We have superb talent. I think the game is going to get so much faster and so much more skilled in a short amount of time, it's only going to become more attractive. And I do think players are tastefully starting to take the responsibility of growing the game maybe a little bit more. They're just doing more of it. That's the best way to put it.

Well, and that's like every once in a while, Austin Matthews will post to Snapchat. Hot girl summer, man. He's having a good summer. And, you know, it's kind of like you see you see the personality from him on that level. But Austin doesn't seem like the kind of guy who's going to get in front of a group of reporters and say something outlandish. Right. He's just not that kind of guy. And I wondered for you, you know, you saw Austin Matthews, Mitch Marner, William Nylander come into this league.

Same time you did. Basically, there's all that same year. Right. That you guys it was just a bunch of young kids and JVR, Bozak and Kadri. and uh and i i wonder like when when you have that attention instantaneously you talk about the effect on you mentally what what do you think the mental effect was on those guys and yourself in being a young team being an exciting team being a team that's surprised but all of a sudden you have to deal with all the things that you just mentioned i mean you know as a player you're you're at least i was taught growing up you know you're focus is to improve at your craft and any brain space award to anything else is kind of like

cheating like you're cheating on your sport if you're not thinking of a way to get better you know around the clock and i can only imagine the guys that are even better than i am that that they have an even greater responsibility you know to the talent that they've been they've been gifted and created you know all through their childhood um you know i think that those three guys you named in particular, Nylander, Marner, Matthews, had a lot of eyes on them very early. The coaching staff and management definitely tried their very best to make it a hockey-first sort of environment

in which they could get the game in order and then begin to handle more responsibilities. They all do have great personalities. They're very lovable people. They're awesome teammates. They're interesting. They're a lot of fun to be around. They have, you know, a great magnetic sense to them in which people are drawn to them.

Both because of their talent, just who they are as people. It'll be interesting to see how they all wear it, you know, growing up. There's going to be successes and failures in their careers as Leafs, and hopefully they're all for a long time. You know, it'll be interesting to see. I think they'll be influenced by, you know, the more veteran status as they grow up. They'll feel more comfortable in their own skin. I think that's natural progression.

I think, you know, it'll be interesting to see with how the team does, if they open up more or not. I don't know. Demand on superstars in Toronto is unique, and I think there's only a really small handful of people that you can ask about exactly what that's like. And, you know, frankly, I wasn't one of them. You know, but I definitely would support,

I think that, you know, do them well. And, you know, Mitch maybe is the most in the spotlight. You know, Willie's not afraid. And Austin, you know, has had, you know, the fashion shoots and things like that. I think all of them, you know, get their toe deeper and deeper in the water. I don't think anyone's going to take a cannonball.

yeah um it'll be interesting to see i mean as players we we pick our head up and look around you know you look at what the superstars in basketball are doing and what they've been successful with and um you know i think as as people and players we like to think of ourselves as i don't know dynamic and and change and able to handle more responsibility that might be how they handle you know their media and branding and business uh you know responsibilities moving hard um connor and again i'm asking you this question but i'm not going to ask you the trip the typical toronto media version of this question because everybody's heard this answer a billion different ways and there's no way that you could possibly answer it anyway but just so that people

on twitter can calm down calm down about what's going on slightly you were mitch marner's teammate for three and a half, four years. You know him. Did he enjoy being a Toronto Maple Leaf? Have you ever seen him drink blood? No. Does he like being a Toronto Maple Leaf? Do you get the feeling he wants to be here?

I mean, Mitch, he's a special person. And he's a special, special player. He's an absolute blast to watch as someone who now plays against him, as someone who had the luxury and privilege to play with him. I always got the impression that Mitch came to work every day, never feeling that it was that. He loved being a Maple Leaf.

He did everything he could. Every night that I was there to help that team win, I haven't seen him do anything that he hasn't put his heart and soul into. um i have to think mitch loves being a lead you know i i can only imagine you know the dynamic of what's going on there i have a lot of respect for the two people on each side of the team and kyle dubas and how he always you know um dealt with and i have an immense amount of respect for mitch uh he's still one of my close friends we talk um you know decently often i'll be you know very upfront that I have been

very hands-off about I'm sure everyone's asking in terms of what's he thinking in that his girlfriend is an absolute sweetheart my wife and his girlfriend are very very close you know

it'll be interesting to see how it takes shape the whole hockey world is anticipating waiting to see what happens you know we'll see. It was funny. One of the things I've always considered that helps me in times of uncertainty

as a player, am I going to play soon? Am I getting traded? Curiosity about my own contract. Time moves forward. You'll always get your answer in hockey. You'll always know the answer eventually to the question you're asking.

We'll see what happens. You wouldn't answer the question about drinking blood. Did you hear the question about drinking blood connor he did drinking blood i don't think he heard it no oh you never heard oh no no i've never seen him drink blood okay and connor i think i i think the last question is and this is just a personal thing are and this is this is going to sound really inside but i don't care i'm going for it do are it when you're a toronto maple leaf are you aware of steve dangle i mean i think his game in general has shown on instagram

you're damn right he's coming for everybody's job right i need a contract right now right now i just always wonder what it's like to have like you know to be in a dressing room and then have some guy on the internet yelling about you like i would i just wonder what that feels like you know by osmosis you learn you know the names of of people that are you know following the team and are fans of yours and and as a player you know it's interesting right because steve i'm assuming you know this career path you're on is really born out of you know your love for the team yeah and you have a love for the game players have a love for the game and at your core you want to be liked by fans you want to be admired in the way that as a player you know

i admired my favorite players growing up um you know we always uh steve we appreciated you man and and you're all you guys being being lead fans at the time um we always uh appreciate our fans and and you know if you're someone you know like yourself who gained some attention and and you know you've obviously got you know this podcast and your youtube channel and that um you know if you said something funny or whatever i have asked my uncle they you know would follow the team just as anybody would they would send me something if it was funny no i definitely knew who you were okay no i've always wondered what that reaction thanks dad i appreciate that very much you hear things connor through that like in our position you hear things through the through the you know

through the walls right it's it's like you know it'll go broken telephone or so and so says to so-and-so says to so-and-so, and we've heard mixed things. Never from the Leafs themselves, but always from management and things like that. Not necessarily even with the Leafs, just people. So it's very, very interesting to get that perspective. So thank you for letting me ask that question.

I appreciate it. And now things are going a full 360 where we're trying to take each other's jobs. Yeah. And I gotta say, I like my chances. I like my chances. You never should have let me in the dorms. well connor we're we're looking forward to you when you put that video because i have seen that

uh i have seen connor's video that he was talking about earlier i can't can't wait to see that and the reaction to it on instagram any idea when that comes out um i'm debating uh today or monday okay okay kind of uh somewhere in between there probably today as long as uh i'm on my way out to escape with a friend up in Michigan. So as long as I can get there in a timely fashion and I don't hit any more traffic, I'd

like to get my hands on my phone and get out what I was looking to do. And then if not, I will fail and then get it on Monday. That's what we do every time there's a new episode. People go,

when is it? And I go, I don't know. But it will arrive. Ask Jesse. Yes, it will come here soon. Connor, it's been a pleasure. Thank you for being so candid with us. We're looking forward to this show, man. We really are.

Whenever it happens, you'll be like the Danny Green of the NHL. It'll be nice to have that perspective, and it was great to have it today. You can follow Connor on Instagram at Connor Carrick. Just spelled how it sounds. You can also follow Hoagie the Frenchie, who's Connor's dog, who you should follow. Yes. Because, duh. And, man, I hope this is not the last time.

I hope next time it's in person. So when you roll through with New Jersey, if you can make time between the skates or whatever, feel free to come on with us. Absolutely. My wife did launch a blog recently called Pucking Fresh, and that's with a P. Nice. She's really excited about that. Works very hard.

I know what her intentions are and what her goals are for her platform. Hoagie the Frenchie has been a little dormant. I think after this plug, I'm going to have to change that and give the people what they want because the hoagie content is consumed at a rate that people love it, man. People love it. Dogs are good. You can't have a dog that looks like this. You cannot have a Frenchie that looks like this and not post pictures, man.

And I'm talking daily pictures. We need to get on this, you and Lexi. I think hoagie needs to follow Iggy and Charlie Dangle on Instagram. Follow my dogs is what I'm trying to say, Connor. Collaboration. Hey, yeah. So best of luck to Lexi. Connor, best of luck to you this season.

It's going to be a great one for the Devils, no doubt. And thank you so much for making time for us today. It really was a pleasure. Thank you, guys. Have fun. All right. Have a good one. See you, dude.

You too. You too. Wow. January 14th. Circle on the calendar. New Jersey versus Toronto in Toronto. There you go. Hey, there you go.

Okay. Alright, alright. I'm looking forward to that. That'll be fun. I wonder if I wonder if Like they're in your they're usually especially it's Jersey. They're in and out right there be no way We could actually get a mint. Oh like in the studio. It depends how many days off they have after the game, you know, never never know maybe the Ontario guys want to sorry I'm adjusting to you ever have your headphones on for half an hour and then you got to get used to what normal hearing is like. I don't have that anymore

because that's every day. It's too natural to you? Yeah, it's not even something I think about. I feel like, I sound like I'm in a tunnel. I thought what he had to say specifically about his time in Toronto and the end of it. I mean, you've got to remember, the guy still played

47 games his last season in Toronto, so that's not a small number. Yeah. But I mean, you could see it when he was here, how frustrating it was. And to be honest with you, we knew at the time there were better options. Like, he was a better option than what they were playing. It was probably his family members going,

this guy says you should be in the lineup. This guy says it every video. Well, if you're sitting there and you see a guy who you're clearly better than, and every night that person gets this opportunity when you know you could probably take that opportunity and do so much better, that's got to be fresh shit. I think it should be praised for not once

bringing up Roman Polak during that whole thing. No, you couldn't do that to me. Oh, did you catch what I did? I said he's one of four really good right handers Yes I did and he caught it too you a-hole I know He said yeah thanks for including me in that No Nikita Gusev

Yeah when you mentioned He's not a defender Oh I got Okay I got fooled on that one Cause I'm like yeah that's right Cause I thought I had it inverted again I thought he just thought you made a mistake Yeah

I think he just like oh Steve made a mistake I'm not gonna call him out on it That was, by the way, that Nikita Gusev thing has messed me up forever, because now I don't know what he is. The left wing? Yeah. He's not even a right wing. He's a left wing, but Steve said he's a defenseman, and now I don't trust either.

A right-handed defenseman. I don't know, man. Listen, folks who bombed my mentions with that, listen. How can you even have a podcast? I don't know, man. Sorry, what did they say? How can you even have a podcast? It was like two minutes.

It's an interesting thing about the podcast is we decided to. That's how we have a podcast. Which cartoon cat are you doing an impression of? I'm trying to figure it out. Nobody likes a Charlie in the box. I thought that was fun. And, you know, obviously Bluetooth is hard to do an interview with. Yeah.

I think it would be even more fun with him in the studio. But what I appreciate about a guy like that is that, you know, Connor Carrick knows who he is, and Connor Carrick knows what he is. And I think this season You know, in Jersey They've got a guy in Tyler Delo Running their analytics operations It's going to really change the way New Jersey plays hockey

It obviously changed the way That they went out and got players this year Yeah, I think It's a bit simplistic Sure, but I think it'll be interesting to see How this goes for him And I think it'll be really interesting to see How that podcast goes for him

Because I really think that is really If he's doing that during the regular season That's really stepping out on a limb For hockey And that's going to require the approval Of the New Jersey PR folks I just hope they don't kibosh that

I hope they allow them to have some fun with that Danny Green it up a little bit Yeah well Danny Green Has never really been that controversial He's just been candid about things And he's an interesting guy That's basically it You put Danny Green in front of a microphone he's interesting

I don't know if it was his podcast or another one But when he talked about the whole Raptors parade, so good. So good. You hear him talk about Marc Gasol and just how wasted he was? Like, you could see. It was great. Whoever did it, I want to say it was Yahoo Canada Sports, or Yahoo Sports Canada. They overlaid it with footage so that you know he's telling the truth.

And you see Marc Gasol just sitting on stage going, I'm drunk, man. I'm drunk. And he's saying this to Danny Green. He's literally sitting next to Justin Trudeau He's sitting next to the Prime Minister of Canada Just going, I'm drunk And at one point on one of the floats

He was just, you know how Drunk people just do random things He just bit Danny Green on the back Just bit him I think you've done that to me a couple times Yeah, I'm sure you've bit me, for sure Have I bit you? You also do this thing where, if I get Steve drunk enough

He'll kiss his wife Like a camel kisses Oh, that's my favorite thing in the world She hates it What is this? The camel kiss What is that? Well, because camels

It's really hard to do over audio But camels just have sort of like They have puckered lips all the time Like a puckered but lazy lip And so I'll just I won't So he'll just walk up to her If you're watching the YouTube thing

So my hand is her face I'll just go Like smash my face Oh, you just kind of shove your mouth into her Yeah, she really doesn't like it Especially when Which makes me do it a lot more Steve did it once with cake in his mouth, too.

It was great. It was awesome. I did it. It was great. So, yeah. Anyway, Connor Care. That was awesome. Thank you for doing that, Connor Care.

Hey, so. What do you want to talk about? Well, do we want to talk about how fun the Leafs dressing room seems? Sure. I mean, it sure seems like a dressing room that licks that much ass must have a good time. So, this isn't real. Is what the report is. Jesse, some things happened while you were in Mexico.

Jesse, you missed a bunch, and I'm going to read... You're going to read a fake thing, right? I'm going to read... I'm going to hope... Hey, everyone who just realized the podcast was marked explicit. Right now is our ass-licking discussion. That's right, and I'm looking for it. Igor Aronko seems to have taken it down, which is interesting.

Oh, has he? Yeah. Interesting. But I will... Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe I'm wrong. I'm looking. I'm looking.

But it originally was an Igor Aronko tweet that was, I guess, translated, correct? I'm looking for it, too. It's not here. Yeah, but, like, translated by him, a guy who speaks Russian. Do you want me to read it? You have it? Yeah. How did you get it?

It's just on Google. Oh, it's on the, okay, the pension plan puppets have it, too. No, the Yahoo Sports one is really good, because they have the explanation as well. Okay. Do you have it in front of you? Go ahead. It's a triple P, but, yeah, so, oh, okay. He didn't turn it into a picture.

That's why I didn't see it. Okay. Igor Ozhiganov to Dima Iraklov. Anyway, it's so different overseas. And that means overseas over here. When you get to a locker room, it seems all the players are ass lickers. That just wait for the coach to come and lick his ass. They run to him, laugh of his jokes, make up to him.

In Russia, nobody talked to such a player. Now, apparently, this is out of context, What Ozhigana was actually saying, according to Sergey on Twitter, is that players in Canada are far more eager to communicate with their coach and vice versa. In Russia, it's kind of taboo. The coach is God and should never be bothered. Ah. I like the ass-licking better.

I mean, who doesn't, right? But I, uh, this was my favorite non-traversy of the summer, I think. I don't know if it's going to get topped. So, who was it, who's the one who wrote the ass-licking thing out? Igor Aronko. Well, Igor Aronko was relaying it from an interview with someone else. So maybe the other person, I don't remember who it was, maybe the other person mistranslated it or something. And Igor Aronko, seeing it and understanding English, went, well, this will play super good. Just throws it up on Twitter and it turns out it was just a game of broken ass licking telephone.

You know, it's the best broken ass licking telephone I've ever heard So, are we saying that Babcock's ass is dry? Yeah It's not I mean, it's hockey season It's not ass licking season Now, he does talk about Mike Babcock in the article though And the pension plan puppets have lovingly taken this

and translated it into context as much as possible. Now, so they asked him about, they call Mike Babcock the most expensive trainer in the world. And I think by trainer, they mean coach, right? That's the Russian equivalent. And he said, what's unique about Mike Babcock? And he said, well, dear, because he won everything possible in his career. There are nuances in his approach. Every day he will ask you, how are you and the family and so on.

You don't walk past him. Mike knows how to build a homely atmosphere As in, you talk to the coach, you don't walk past him You talk to him He wants to know how you're operating Next question, do you know who Mike Commodore is? Yes And he goes, yes, I heard about that

And Mike Commodore is a former Babcock player Who Mike Babcock never played And Mike Commodore, I think he gets drunk in tweets, right? He must Have you seen this? He tweeted some shitty things But why is this a question they asked him? Well, because they're like, hey, did you like Babcock?

And he goes, yes and they go, but what about this guy who does not? What about this one guy who you don't know who might hate him? Like, what kind of... That's not very fair. I don't know. Is that a fair question? Well, it's Russia. So remember when they were shot? Remember in Finland when they were like,

do you think that you will make... They asked the Winnipeg coach, like, do you think that you will make them your daddy? Oh, man. They asked Paul Maurice and he's like, whoa, we are not in North America. Yeah, wait, I'm sorry. They asked far more biting questions in Europe. Well, biting and also, like,

With the A different language A different translation Yeah but Adam You're a good interviewer If you're talking to Connor Carrick You go up to him and say

Hey Mike Commodore hated Babcock Do you hate Babcock? What do you think of that? Do the devils lick ass? Thank you We should have said Hey Connor

Do the devils lick ass? Tell me about how Why Why'd you get traded Out of Dallas? Were you relieved Because it was just A team full of

Ass lickers? The common denominator here is Roman Polak. That's why Jimmy Hill and the owner were so pissed off mid-season. There was just not enough ass-licking going on. His ass wasn't licked at all. It's fucking horseshit. Jamie Bann and Tyler Sagan are just not eating enough ass here. Fucking horseshit that there's not enough ass-lickers on the Dallas Stars.

Jim Lights. Put it on a shirt. To be frank, yes. Now, the thing is, to answer your question, Jesse, yes, you should ask that question. I mean, there's questions we probably could have asked Conor Carrick today. But I feel like I'd like to have Conor Carrick back on.

You know, and Conor Carrick... We also had him and then didn't have him like three times. Yeah, exactly. So preparation was difficult. But we'd like to have, you know, you want to develop a relationship with people so that they feel comfortable answering questions that are a little bit tough. Sort of like the Mitch Marner question was a bit of a tough one for him, even though, Mike, do you think

Mitch Marner likes being a leaf? That's all I said. But in this context, it's okay Because he's in Russia man So you can go and go Alright let's go hard Let's talk about all this crazy shit It's one of my favorite things of the summer

Oh absolutely The Russian who goes back to Russia It's always great So Igor Ozhiganov says yes I heard about Mike Commodore And then the interviewer says Have you heard his sayings about Mike Babcock He called him a charlatan and a piece of shit And he said

Two very completely different things Igor Ozhiganov said, it's hard for me to understand him, him being Mike Commodore. My own example and the example of Nikita Zaitsev, I can say that Mike Babcock is a very decent person. Why did Commodore say such things? I do not know. And then so the interviewer continues. And this is really, he's really trying to. And he said, Babcock kicked him off the team twice.

Perhaps this is still the case. And Igor Ozhiganov says this. There are such cases when a player intersects with a coach in different teams. like uh like himself he mentions himself with a former cska and current coach in akbar so he played he's playing for the same coach that he played for cgska in his yes but not in his last year yes i was confused by that too yeah and i think they're i think they're friends uh and the opposite situation happens this is a normal occurrence looks like commodore just didn't suit babcock uh but he did not give a shit about him uh to make such statements and in fact that

Mike changed him and didn't send him to the AHL. You know what he sounds like? What? The English-translated South Park chin Pokemon cartoon. Like, Jujunesbys do not have the heart for such endeavors. It's just the lost in translation. It doesn't quite work. You don't realize how much you talk.

And colloquialisms, which is the hardest word in the world. They just don't translate And we have them, they have them And when you have a conversation and you're translating both It's just nonsense Well it's like when Igor Ozhiganov says Well dear And the last question

Again, Commodore and Babcock Is there a coach in your career That you would like to say the same words as Commodore About Babcock, and Ozhiganov says Yes, but I won't name him And it's pretty clearly the coach who Healthy scratched him in the KHL two years ago yeah so anyway very very interesting it was um it was very funny and it's a shame that it's not true

i wanted so badly we could erode this into training that could have been hall of fame hockey quote all time uh it really is if babcock has an ounce of humor he will open training camp with the media with hey what's up ass lickers i hope he does i really want them to. So, Jesse, in the time that we've, in between podcasts, Jesse went to Mexico. Yeah, I did. I did. Jesse,

I just wondered how your trip was, man. This is the first I've seen you. Oh, my God. It was fantastic. I've never been to South America and spent a lot of time on the beach. Technically, it's North America, so you still haven't been to South America. There's only three countries in North America. Still haven't been to South America, but I went to a lower

part of North America. It was great. You went to the place where the asses are licked That's the booty part I was like I don't understand that Maybe there's a weird Spanish translation Where they talk about ass licking I don't know

But we stayed in a jungle One night and then We stayed on the beach another night In a tent and ate a lot of guacamole There's a lot of avocado down there I don't know if you know this Good time, rode bikes through Tulum Which is great, that's where we stayed in the city of Tulum

Oh, okay. I was like, don't know that. You seem to be like eating on the beach. Yeah, that's all I did. I had margaritas and mojitos on the beach and that's it. Are the margaritas better? Yes. Everything is better.

Everything, because it's not Mexican food. It's food. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It is better. It's better. They have mezcal instead of tequila because it's the higher end of the tequila. It's like a tequila except fancier.

Oh, okay. It's made with, I forget what it's made with. It's good. Yeah, it's a smoky one. So you have mezcal mojitos And that's mezcal in your margaritas It's fantastic It's an experience and I recommend everyone do it

Because we didn't do the Cancun resort thing Because that's like all you can eat Inclusive things, that's not fun So we freaked Jesse out the day he left Because he goes on the air and he's like I'm going to Mexico today And TJ and I look at each other like

Have fun And it was funny because my experience in Mexico Was completely different I didn't know you did I did the The all inclusive You don't want to do that Which I never should have done

But I was I think I was 23 And I was going with my girlfriend And you know It's like You get what you can You did 23 year old All inclusive?

Were you the most bored people? Well no no no Like all inclusives Aren't just for old people You ever been to one? No There's a lot of young people It's mainly for young people

And like It's mainly for like Partiers Who want to go and like Hey I'm getting drunk Drinking $2 tequila Or free tequila shots Because all inclusive

We're going to hook up That bring their own big Bubba things From like 7-Eleven And you fill it up at the all-inclusive buffet And that's what you do And you go and party So we did the couples kind of resort thing Where we went to Tulum

Which is like a tourist town And avoided Adam's mess Oh my god, because you get off the fucking plane And the first thing you get before you even get your bags Is somebody trying to sell you a timeshare And all along the way it's just fucking timeshare Timeshare, timeshare Hey, hey, my friend, my friend, timeshare

And like you're gonna just buy that on a whim people do yeah, and there are hundreds of sales people at the airport Have you ever seen South Park? Oh yes, yes, and you're just trapped Aspen, Aspen Stay there I have a little place in Aspen Woah, woah That was Adam in the airport

Woah And then of course like there's guys with like assault rifles at the airport and stuff and yeah No, but I mean it's it's it was different because I was in Puerto Vallarta. Well Adam, was it actually an assault rifle? I think we need to get caught up in the semantics of what is and isn't. Was it 30 to 50 wild hogs? He could have been. I'm glad you didn't miss that. I did catch that. How am I to kill 30 to 50 wild hogs when my children are running around? In 35 minutes! It's so specific! It's so specific!

I didn't miss that one. Yeah. No, that was fun. That was funny. Did a gun write this? How did the gun learn Twitter? It's true. It's a Russian gun. Well, dear.

Did the gun lick ass? How do you lick ass of 30 to 50 feral ox? So, Adam, you did an hour away from us where all the partiers are. Oh, my God. Well, and the thing is that it's so... I hated it because they slap a wristband on you. You're with a bunch of fucking strangers Who are already lit

Like they're already fucked up And then you And then you're bused to the resort And then all they do Is drink and pee in the pool That's it And so Yeah

I'm like I would never do this again Never It sucked You're in a prison Like you can't leave the resort And it just It was like

This is awful I hated this You would have loved how we did it Where we We biked through the town I would have loved that We had bicycles Yeah it was great

We stayed in the ocean Not in any weird resort See I need I need an adventure And like From getting from The airport To our resort

We have a private taxi Because we're going Like an hour away From the airport Not in a big van With all the partiers To Puerto Vallarta Or with some guy

From St. Louis Who just explains All the differences Between the place Where you live And St. Louis And St. Louis Yes

We had We happened to be On the Fort McMurray flight So Whoa Yeah so we had The rig guys who are ready to fucking party.

And I don't know if you don't know what I'm talking about. Hello, welcome to Mexico. Where do I find coke? Hey, cocaína. Cocaína. It's not that. You put a little stank on everything now. Gracias. There it is.

It's funny that we were on that. If you don't know what I'm talking about, if you're not from Canada, you probably wouldn't understand this, But in northern Alberta, that's where all of our oil sands are. And that's a significant industry, a significant engine of our economy for the entire country. And so a lot of guys are up there and it's cold and it's expensive. And they're working like 30 days in a row. And then at the end of that 30 days, they'll be like, OK, where can I go for 200 bucks?

And literally it's 200 bucks to go from there to like Vegas because there's so many flights back and forth. And another cheaper destination is Mexico. So we were on a party We were in a silo of party Like we were in a little tube Of party like people who were just ready to explode So I think it was like We were expecting I guess to be like

Let's gear down it's vacation And these guys are like what's that And to be fair They were all a blast like it was really funny But it was just it was a lot of energy man Come on I'm blowing all my money on off road vehicles And I'm going to blow the rest of it on this trip Let's go

Sorry, I know a few people who have been to Fort Meck. So our plane ride down, it was a similar experience except the complete opposite. So we were on the same, half of our flight, it was one of the giant planes, but half of our flight was taken up by a family who was going back to Mexico to celebrate their grandmother's 75th birthday. Wow. So they were just rowdy. And the stewardess at the beginning, they're like,

we have a small problem with our alcohol. it wasn't packed onto this plane and everyone was like, no you didn't! You just don't want to serve this giant group of Mexicans all this alcohol on this plane! And then one of the family members yelled at them, you just don't want to serve us alcohol!

They're all rowdy, but it was fun rowdy because it's just a giant family having fun on a plane. They were cousins They were like rioting. That sounds amazing. Yeah, and they were wearing t-shirts and on the back had 75 and every one of their names was on it and it spelled out 75. So it was

very cute, but they were super rowdy the entire time. See, now that's the kind of family I want to have. Right? That's awesome. That's amazing. They just don't want to serve us! It's not something I don't think any of my aunts or uncles have ever yelled. It's like, oh, all the rest of the food is here, but the alcohol's not.

That's weird. Oh, we forgot it. Whoa, it's the thing we make the most money on, and we forgot it. Okay, sure. It's just like, gosh, you know, some days you just make a mistake. I don't think so. Oopsies, poopsies. Yeah, but you're playing with the opposite of the party.

And again, the guys were fun rowdy, but it was pretty extreme. I think it was just that maybe we... It wasn't everybody else's problem. We were the problem. We were the ones who were expecting something different and then it turned out not to be the case. You know what I mean? But anyway. Yeah, you guys are the guys

who screwed up. Yeah, exactly. We took the party to Puerto Vallarta, man. It's get on board or not. But yeah, I'm glad you had a good time. Thank you. Now you, Steve, are going to Washington, right? Florida first. Florida first Florida for five days

I'm going to Florida I didn't know that I've never been to Florida You've never been to Florida? Adam has so many Tips on Florida I know man I could

He's a frequent flyer Where in Florida? Orlando Because we're going to go to Harry Potter World You're going to Disney though right? I don't think so You're not going to Disney World

I'm doing Universal I don't think so Hey my wife's the Disney nut Leave that up to her I don't care You are going to go All the way to Orlando And not go to Disney World

We're going to do other things You guys are nuts You're nuts You're absolutely nuts You've lost your mind But I want to go to Hogsmeade No Well I mean yeah

Apparently Harry Potter World's great But why wouldn't you Go to Disney World too Maybe we are going To Disney World I don't think you do both Cause

Like you Universal's up on Up on the map a little Okay Yeah And then If you do If you do Disney World

You need three days Of Disney World Yes you do Three Yeah you can't do it In one day I did Disneyland in one day You could do

No that's different No no You need three different days of Disney World Just to do everything It's so awesome Now with Star Wars Land Now it's four They've got Disney World, the Magic Kingdom

They've got Epcot, they've got the Animal Kingdom And now the Star Wars thing too And they had the ESPN White World Tomorrowland I think that's part of Epcot, isn't it? Yes, yes, yes But that's my favorite one It's cool

We stayed there And you could stay in the music resort Or the movie resort And then there's like Memorabilia on the walls And stuff like that And it's It's really neat

But you You at least should see The Magic Kingdom While you're there You have to see The Magic Kingdom You have to go see The dancing bears

That are animatronic That are from like 70 years ago And you're like How did this even happen The Hall of Presence I'm sure they've added Donald Trump to that by now

It's also It's off season Right now Like everything Everything in the south Is off Like when we went to Mexico It's off season

Because everybody goes there in the winter so like everything was open like there's no tourists there, so if you go now It'll be perfect. Yeah I don't know everyone's like wait a sec like no one goes there now, and it's gonna be really hot I'm like you're selling this to me I think I've talked about it on the show before I remember we we had a conversation Once about like how could you not want to live in that sort of heat and the bunch of people from like Orlando and Tampa And sunrise and like Miami that area like actually yeah, actually you can't go outside for two months of the year and we were in caprice and i were in tampa i think two years ago or three years ago in

august because my parents have a a tiny little place near there um where they've retired to and uh so we get to you get to go down stay for free it's the opposite my parents aren't there they're up here and every single afternoon first off it's always 35 degrees and the humidity is at a million percent so every afternoon you get the biggest thunderstorm you've ever seen in your entire life okay and and the great thing is you're beside the ocean and in orlando i don't even think They're beside the ocean though, right? Like it's more inland. So it's just I Want to emphasize how little research I've done for this venture. I literally just want to go to Harry Potter world That's all I want to do. Okay, and everything else is you must go you must go to Magic Kingdom

Yeah, okay, whatever you're doing canceled plans. You must go to Magic Kingdom. You're gonna try to find a beach Well, yeah, yeah, you can do that Orlando's very inland Yeah, and then we come home and then less than a week later then I go to Washington Okay, and what are you doing in Washington? Doing a book signing with Russian Machine Never Breaks. That's amazing. We're doing one more page books, which I think is technically in Virginia. And then later that day, we're going to have a party.

Cool. And also, when Steve comes back, that week, there will be, we think, almost confirmed, and I'm just going to tell you that it's happening. Oh, yes. We can't tell you exactly what's happening, but there will be an event that week. A podcast Event That is

Live Yes We're not going to reveal with whom The times, the dates, the details, whatever That's the week of the 26th of August That's correct, yeah In fact, it might circle the 29th on my calendar If I were you

Oh, and Durham and Durham-ish folks I'm going to be doing a I'll post about it on Twitter a thousand times I'm doing a signing at a library in Oshawa On August 22nd Pet peeve? Why can't we ever do events on Fridays, you guys? Well, that one we chose not to because it's the long weekend and everybody would be out of town.

No. That makes it even better. And I have a wedding to go to that weekend, too. Damn it. Oh, do you have a long weekend wedding? My cousin, Mike, who I love dearly. What? Long weekend weddings, man.

Oh, you're going to. Mike. Mike. You might have to hear it. What's worse? long weekend wedding or my neighbor in a few weeks is going to a cash bar

wedding? I almost had a cash bar wedding. What? Yeah. Yeah. I would have charged to be MC. It was gonna be like a toonie bar. No. No. F that. F that. You're a bad friend if you do that. Really? Yeah.

I'm not coming. Oh, man. You know, I don't know. I don't see the big deal of it. I've been to lots of weddings. I don't need to see it. You know, I actually am getting to that point. I'm sort of like, I've seen a lot. I don't, you know. Oh, you're that guy.

Well, it's sort of an exhausting process. Although with Mike's wedding, I'm really excited. Because Mike, my cousin Mike, has worked hard to get to where he's at. And this woman he's marrying is great. And, you know, he struggled in the past. So this is one of those weddings you're like, damn, I'm so freaking happy to see where you're at. Yeah, yeah. This is a cousin I'm really proud of.

So, man, I think this one, I'll suck it up for this one. But I'm at the point now with weddings where unless it was, like, Jesse. Right. Like, unless it's a close friend, I'm probably not going to go. So, I still really like weddings. Big fan. But my dad, like, can't stand them. I hear you.

I'm not your dad. He, like, wants to go to, like, 70, or doesn't want to go to, like, 75% of them. And I think it's because he's waspy and married into an Italian family. So it's like every year There's like two or three And it's gotten to the point Where it's like Whose cousin is this?

Who is this? I don't know I don't know who that is And every Italian wedding Is minimum 400 people It's bananas It's crazy It's like a

It's literally like a concert Coming to town Basically yeah Yeah no I'm pumped about this wedding This one's I've had this circled On my calendar for a while

So long weekend or not I'm pretty pumped To be at this one That's fun I probably should have said Where that Oshawa thing is Oh yeah Oshawa Public Library

McLaughlin branch That's 65 Bagot Street I'm going to go with B-A-G-O-T street in Oshawa August 22nd 6pm Nice Your book is still available at the Toronto Eaton Centre

I saw it there yesterday Oh I signed a bunch of copies in the Oshawa town centre Yesterday So if you want to go pick up an autograph Yeah if you want to pick up an autographed book There's a bunch in the store Did you walk into the store and just start signing your books?

Well, you gotta ask. It's their property. I just wrote it. It's your book. Someone asked me that, and I'm like, no, I couldn't just start. Why not? Well, because once I sign it, they can't return the book. Oh.

So it would be a jerk move to just be like, ha ha, can't return it. Who returns books? Like, well, like for the book signings, what they do is they just order way too many books. just in case, and then all the ones they don't sell, they just give back. The store can't return it once you sign it. Oh, I thought you meant the person who buys it can't return it. Oh, I

assumed they could. That's called the library if you're returning a book. Oh, yeah. They probably could. You could probably return it, yeah. I don't know. That's a good question. Yeah, I don't know. That makes sense that the store can't return it. Yeah, no, no. It's about the store. So you gotta get

permission, and then they put on the little sticker. It's a little sticker. Little sticker that says signed Mitch Werner hasn't signed yet guys Well so here's I just wanted to ask how Jesse's vacation was But also I want to know if you saw this while you were gone

Okay So this comes from football but because training camp's on Finally Finally Stephen A. Smith And the other guy And then Skip and Shannon Max Kellerman Max Kellerman former rapper

Oh my god I forgot about that Finally they've stopped Talking about basketball Because like Because it's like Okay enough Right

Like it's mid-July Stop it But what they are Talking about is What the NFL season Is going to look like And Antonio Brown

Did you see this story No no I'm excited Oh boy Okay so Antonio Brown Full disclosure I'm heartbroken That he's not a stealer anymore

But he seemed in the last Couple years To be losing his mind No he's a raider now Because he didn't want To be with the stealers And you know what Ben Roethlisberger

didn't help because he's got his own radio show in Pittsburgh and he would call out Antonio Brown on his own radio show in Pittsburgh

doesn't he have his own radio show I didn't know that he's got a pre-game show and like a Sunday night show it's weird oh wow yeah I think it's

well I guess it's a pre-game Sunday night show yeah that would make sense so he's got his own show it's very strange so there were a couple times last year where he pissed off

his teammates by saying stuff on the show that he shouldn't have it's like if Austin Matthews hosted the pre-game show right for the Leafs

for the Leafs radio network here's Austin Matthews You know, I think I'm going to be pretty good tonight after Austin Matthews comes storming Norman Rumack. Yeah, right. Storming Norman. What? Yeah, so anyway, it pissed him off, and rightfully so.

But Antonio's also, he's literally a character from Ballers, right? Like, he's literally, he is that football guy who makes big money, spends big, and he's 31. And he's the best receiver of the last decade by far, probably one of the top five all time. He's incredible. But the Steelers had to basically trade him for nothing Because he wanted out

They couldn't agree on anything And so they basically gave him to the Raiders For like a second and a fifth It was an awful trade and it sucked And everything sucked Now one of the things that athletes do Is they get in those cryo tanks Right?

Yeah I know what you're talking about It cools down the muscles and I think it helps with regeneration I'm not really sure the science behind it Uh Yes yeah Yeah, makes you feel good if you get hurt. And I don't know if you've seen Antonio Brown's body, but it's perfect. He has the perfect body.

Sure it is. It's not conicaric level, but I'm sure it's close. Except that when Antonio Brown got into the cryo-freezer thing, he didn't wear proper footwear. So he hasn't been at training camp for a week. Oh, no. Because his feet are frostbitten. Oh, gosh. Oh, shit.

A wide receiver whose feet are frostbitten. And that's because he knew the regulations. He's done it before, he just didn't put them on Because Because Antonio Brown, man I gotta show you a picture Oh no, did he post a picture? Oh yeah

I kinda wanna see it You have got to see this It's absolutely Is he gonna be ready for the season? They don't know And so here He put this up on his Instagram Oh

Okay, that's not as bad as I thought it was going to be but oh Yeah, so basically the entire bottom of his if his foot is falling off It's just an entire layer of skin dead. Yeah, what an idiot, right? You're you're an idiot for doing that you're a professional athlete. Yeah, take care of stuff like your body And if you're a Steeler fan, this isn't the first time you've been like Antonio Why do you have to be such an idiot? Come on, man. You're Tonio Brown.

Anyway. Oh, gosh. Oh, I don't know if I'd post that. I don't know if I would post that. Like, there's a lot riding on the... He's smiling in the picture, at the very least. But it's carelessness. Yeah, it's stupidity.

Pure stupidity. There's no other way around it. Oh, my God. Well, no, it's literally... The reason it's cold is because of liquid nitrogen. Yeah. You're freezing yourself. Yes.

Like for a minute Or something like that Holy shit I want to I want to continue this Oh There's more Because the story's not ending

So this is a story I think we're going to Pay attention to Because we love a little drama Especially sports drama And I have my Fantasy football draft Coming up in two Sundays

From now Same Very interested in this Yep So according to Michael Silver I'm going to pick Doug Flutie

And Michael Silver Is a Sports Illustrated Reporter who's been there For 30 years Said Even before and this is a bit of a long thread, but stay with me, okay? He said, even before suffering bizarre injuries on his feet,

Antonio Brown alarmed Raiders coaches and teammates by rallying against the NFL's enhanced enforcement of helmet regulations, a policy change which will likely force the star receiver to switch to a new helmet. Brown's vocal resistance to the mandate, both during OTAs and shortly after his arrival in Napa, California for training camp, has continued to be a disconnect with the team that acquired the seven-time Pro Bowler from the Pittsburgh Steelers in March. According to four sources familiar with Brown's current absence from camp,

which date back to last week, Raiders coaches and players are concerned that the receiver's unhappiness regarding the helmet issue may play a role in his decision to stay away from Napa. Brown initially left to seek additional medical opinions on his frostbitten feet. Before leaving, he pushed back for a third time against the league's prohibition of the helmet model he's worn his entire career. His continued frustration around the situation

has created a buzz among teammates and coaches, one of whom referred to the saga as honestly the most insane thing I've ever heard. I don't know why it's so important to him. It doesn't make any sense. The pushback began in May. The receiver was informed by the Raiders that the NFL had officially eliminated

the one-year grace period for the certain helmet models, including the one worn by him, which had fallen short in laboratory testing um this meant that brown and 31 other players who finished the 21 2018 season on nfl rosters including quarterbacks brady and rogers would have to switch to approve helmets on a conference call with reporters jeff miller the nfl's executive vp of safety and initiative said the team any team found to have known about a player wearing a band helmet or to have facilitated facilitated the use of one would be subject to lead discipline Each team's equipment manager has been instructed to remove all banned helmets.

All of this was conveyed to Brown at the team's training facility a few days before the start of Phase 3 OTAs. And the first time players who are allowed to wear helmets are wearing them on all on-field workouts. He showed up to the first OTA, however, he requested his old helmet. After being told to wear the approved model, witnesses say he loudly voiced his displeasure, complaining QBs such as Brady and Rogers were not being subjected. Shortly thereafter, he stormed out of the facility. Later that day, Raiders officials found video footage of Rodgers during Green Bay Packers OTA session wearing the approved helmet.

The following day, Brown showed up and acted like nothing had happened. Accepting the new helmet from the equipment manager without protest and completing the workout. However, sometime in the next couple weeks, he once again tried to take the old helmet on the field, so he had an old helmet at home. he'd had it reprinted with Raiders silver and black colors, he was told

the helmet was not allowed, and once again he said, okay, fine, I'll wear the new one before he arrived at training camp last month coaches and teammates believed the issue had been resolved but Brown, who had practiced on his tender feet for only two days before leaving to seek another opinion tried yet again to seek his

old helmet on the field ultimately being told by officials to remove it, he's still freaking out about it, says one Raiders player, he hasn't been here for a while and nobody knows where he's at. And this continues. This is a 20 tweet thread. But this is something we gotta keep an eye on.

I just wanna know why. I don't know. Does the helmet give you special catching powers? Yes. In his mind, yes. Probably. Probably. This is...

It's a different version of a conversation that we've had a thousand times with a thousand athletes across all kinds of sports. well not a thousand athletes maybe a few dozen the special ones the truly special ones

and I always get people saying like well like this craziness like this unreasonable drive is what makes him great I hate when people say oh it's what makes him great like there's this

there's this sub-genre of literature just studying the elite of the elite in their respective fields. You mean the field that Malcolm Gladwell started with Outliers, and then it's kind of trickled down into everybody doing parodies of that? I don't know. Yeah, maybe, but I just...

I find this stuff fascinating as a study of the mind, but there's hordes of people who are like, this is how i will now live my life yeah this is the way you're supposed to think and i'm just like listen god bless gary vaynerchuk and stuff like but i'm so sick of oh here's another gary vaynerchuk video with with some fun underneath and this is how i will live my life now no it's supposed to be like a motivator for like when you're down in the dumps or something and hey pick yourself up and this, all this uber

motivational stuff. Who's that guy who all he does is post videos of him, like, walking without a shirt and talking aggressively about how you're a bum and a loser and you can do that? Oh, Eric Thomas? I don't know. On Monday, I grind! On Tuesday, I

grind! What are you doing on the couch, piece of shit? And I'm just like... Eric Thomas is actually really, you should listen to him, he's interesting. For sure, interesting. But he's like, if I'm awake, I'm grounded. There's a huge difference to me between

interesting and life coach. Like, that's how I am now. I just follow... You know what? Antonio Brown... There are people, I'm sure, who are like, you know what? Antonio Brown will not buckle

on this helmet thing. So I'm not gonna buckle on, you know, hey, tomorrow in my office, they're gonna switch the staplers and I'm going to hold like a I'm just going to protest. I'm just going to sit on top of my desk

holding the stapler above my head because this will not stay. Dude you're not Antonio Brown. You're not. Yep. Sorry. Well the last three tweets of this are interesting and I'll go through them quickly. Since joining the Raiders Brown has frustrated his new bosses by showing up late to numerous meetings and

often appearing unfocused. According to witnesses he typically glances at the screens of several Tablets and his smartphone during the meetings Distracting himself by engaging in Activities such as perusing his bank account And liking photos on Instagram So

Still according to one source the meeting thing isn't That bad but the feet helmet And going dark are a bit of an issue Damn dude the feet The feet The feet are a bit of an issue Like What a ridiculous story but you know what

He's great and he's one of the greatest of all time. Hey, maybe the secret to his greatness is burning his feet with ice. He just wanted to be more extreme, I guess. Yeah. Anyway, I'm very excited for this story. Just to... I don't need safety gloves because I'm Homer Simpson!

Like, that's what that reminds me of. Oh, I don't need proper shoes for the cold chamber because I'm Antonio and Frostbit. Jesse, what did you just send me? I sent you the guy that Steve is talking about his name is David Goggins and he just the exercises with no shirt on and he yells at you okay for being not being

motivated enough yeah because you can't out exercise are you ready for this you're not gonna out exercise me I get up at 5 and I go to bed at friggin 4 I don't want to get yelled at again I gotta find out which which one of these is the computer program though it's really sometimes you know why you don't know which one is the computer this one because I I know and I've been up since five and I've been grinding on the software I've been grinded so this is a different guy than Eric Thomas by the way you should check it Eric Thomas but here's uh here's David Goggins Goggins I don't know okay it's a hot motherfucker

nice heat wave mother nature's a pissed-off motherfucker but guess what but so am I. Who gives a fuck? Today I was running, and this guy passes me in the car. It's about 100 degrees out here, 70% humidity. And the guy comes back around,

looks at me. He pulls his car by me. This did not happen. Why the fuck are you out here? I said, because you're not. You don't know that. Sometimes your motivation needs to be because no one else wants to fucking do it.

We need doctors. We need fucking lawyers We need dentists, we need teachers We also need fucking savages This message I do Is not for fucking everybody So I don't want to say that soft bullshit about Do you have sunscreen on

This message is dangerous I'm not asking you to fucking be like me Do you Stay hard Stay hard Can I just say something Please everyone out there wear sunscreen

yes it's very important what's that like what's that like hey to the graduated class or whatever year it is wear

sunscreen and now in 2019 fuck sunscreen you wear sunscreen you're soft please don't you see me in my easy to carry

running water bottle I know my shit you don't want to get skin cancer it's not good but do you not alright now Steve

Steve since you're the one on the show who's very good Impressions I have the David Goggins So he gave a speech For a minute during that video

But that does not include the three paragraphs That he wrote underneath the video So I'm thinking That in the David Goggins level of intensity You ought to read The Instagram caption underneath This video, at David Goggins by the way If you want to follow him and be a savage yourself

We need dentists but we also need Savages You get skin cancer and die early Yeah, put that on the resume. What's more important than you being a doctor? You being a savage. Going for a fucking run, that's what. In a hundred degree weather.

70% humidity. It says here you worked at Harvey's for two years. And also that you're a, you've been a savage for eight. Who doesn't wear sunscreen. Can you take us through that? All right. If you are looking for soft, feel-good messages, maybe you should check out at softmotherfucker as you are going to find them here.

No one wants to see comments asking whether I'm wearing sunscreen or saying it is too hot and dangerous to be running in this heat. That was very proper, sir. It is too hot and dangerous to be running in this heat. Or do you do anything other than work out? Those of you who get my message, understand- This is another- This is such a key thing of the mind manipulation these guys do.

We understand! Oh, you don't get it. We under- Yeah, they don't get it. You get it. You understand my shouting. They don't. Whoever they are.

Those of you who get my message, understand. It is about being better and getting better. It's NOT! All caps. It's NOT about being like me. i am not encouraging you to go out scorch your ass in the fucking heat and these these are the things i do to get better and push my personal limits i am that motherfucker who looks at the weather for the worst days and while most people are avoiding them i am running towards them

yeah you try okay i want to see you repost this turn hurricane season there dave i am asking whether you have 30 minutes or whatever it takes in your day to push yourself to get better to do what you don't want to do to push your perceived limits you know what i don't want to do read five paragraphs under an instagram post keep going a lot of other people and a lot of other people and i have also talked about getting comfortable being uncomfortable i want to apologize for that as it isn't even about being uncomfortable for most people. It is simply about not

being lazy. If 30 minutes or an hour is uncomfortable while it may not be fun it is a responsibility we have to ourselves. There you go. I agree. Totally. But they're not sunscreen things. Don't be lazy but wear sunscreen. Totally. None of us

truly want to do it but it is those people who do it when they don't want To who What the When they don't want to This is too much Dave

You separate themselves from everyone else Thank you Yeah blah blah blah The softer you are on yourself Inevitably the softer you will become Any one of us Can be a savage But you just have to be

Willing to do what others Don't want to do Stay hard Jesus actual Lord he also looks a little malnutrition it looks like he hasn't been eating he doesn't look healthy

well here's what he yeah well Jesse that's maybe you ought to follow at soft motherfucker I'm sorry I'm soft motherfucker hold on David's got more to say guys the other day I got an email from this lady no you didn't

she truly enjoyed my book but as she read it she thought i was this crazy so after she read it she put the book down and started living her normal life just going back paying bills going back to work complaining about shit a few days later she had time to think about the book and it scared her she thought well maybe this guy isn't crazy and that's what scared her the most maybe he's here trying to show us human potential what we're all capable of doing a lot of people like to put titles on other people who are doing extraordinary things

and makes them feel better by themselves. Give them a get-out-of-jail-free card. I'm not crazy. I'm just not like you. In sports, there's a thing out there called load management. A lot of us like to load manage our lives. When you do that,

you're going to find yourself right at normal. Get off that. Stay hard. He's not a fan of Kawhi. Jesse, what did you just send me? Another video. I don't know if you want to take a look. So David has posted a video of a toe. It's his toe.

It's his toe, and he's cutting it. And it's the best! The best toe! What you're going through in life, what kind of pain you're feeling, or anything else. It comes down to how bad you want it. You know? I want you to know what he's doing in this video before you watch it. He's poking...

Sensitive content. He's poking his toe with a safety pin because he's letting blood out of it. Oh, I've done that. That's really what life's all about. It's how bad you want it. People don't really understand what you're going through. They may think that you're nuts or you're crazy. No one's going to hand you shit in life.

That's one thing I realized a long time ago. A lot of times, I spend a lot of hours in my room just trying to heal up my wounds, just to get back after it again the next fucking day. You can't visit this world. I used to come and visit this fucking world and think that that was going to be enough. maybe visit it for a couple days, a week, maybe a month, like a boot camp or something like that. You feel good about yourself.

But guess what happens? All that shit goes away. What the fuck is he doing? You try to live in that moment for as long as you can. He's poking its toe. That moment is just a feeling. It does absolutely nothing. Why is he poking the skin, not the nail?

He's poking it because it's a blister on the side of his big toe, and he's letting the blood out of the blister. Now, he only needs to poke it a few times, but he continues to poke it. He continues just to prong away. So he's making it worse like you can you can poke it and squeeze the blood out and and that I've done Mm-hmm, but there's a blister. Yeah, you don't need to kid. He's poked it probably 15 times He's been stabbing his foot No one gives a fuck let me poke the shit out of my toe no one gives a fuck

Give me validation for mutilating my foot also ass-lickin. Let's talk about it No ass lickers here! Maybe you should follow at soft ass lickers Jeez Woo! Anyways You can, Igor, go out and achieve

what you want to achieve as he friggin makes his toe into a waffle fry Not all of what he says is wrong. There are very good lessons hidden in some weird stuff Yeah, you don't here's the thing. It's like great lesson always continue to get better. I'm in yeah, there's a fuck about sunscreen I'm out

Here's the thing man if you put on sunscreen you can still go for a run it's crazy I know also, I had a very Canadian thought during that video. I'm like man go to the doctor Why do that what I could just fuck with it Also, I'm sure if it's 100 degrees outside, I'm sure you can find an air-conditioned treadmill to do your run that day. No! He's picking the worst days on the calendar and he's running towards them! That's what he said. Direct quote.

Listen, man, if it works for him, good for you. Yeah. But also, I mean, scientists say, the world needs scientists. He did say that, right? And they're recommending that you put on some sunscreen. All of them! The world needs scientists! People who have done lots of research

This is contrary to everything I just said Fuck load management except for that one time where it won a champion It's no you but you gotta have that championship mentality no championship mentality is don't do more than you can can. Or then they're safe. Like, Kawhi was resting his quad that he evidently blew out. And... No! He should be playing the second half of a back-to-back

against the Atlanta Hawks. Right? Because fuck it. Because he'd pick the worst days of the calendar and he'd just go right at them. Head first, no helmet, no sunscreen. No cares in the world. Yo, what we say about Antonio Brown's feet, am I right?

He'd go right at them with the safety pin. I know! Yeah, what is Antonio Brown doing sitting out with his injury? Maybe he should get a second opinion from AtSoftMotherfucker. Jesus. Why is he wearing a helmet anyway? These guys who just throw a, I would describe it as muscular word salad. Yeah. Just.

Most of CrossFit is like that. And they just take advantage of people who want motivation so badly. And I'm just like, listen, it's in yourself. That video has been up for 24 hours It's got 900,000 views So obviously there's a lot of people that get A lot of motivation I can see why man

The message is important Work hard, don't be lazy Push yourself, good Wear sunscreen I think it's the internet age You know what, maybe he is trying to do a great thing But every time I see someone post something like that I'm just like oh god

Who's misinterpreting this And it's most people You know what I mean So there are parts of that you don't need to take literally. And there are people who watch that. And I'm going to put on a full winter jacket and run out in 100 degrees. There are people who watch that and then take a 100-pound tire and jerk their back and throw it somewhere and throw their back in 10 years. When that hasn't worked out in 20 years.

Right. That's the wrong lesson to take from that. This is just, hey, don't spend all your time watching TV. Do more than you did yesterday. Yeah. Yeah. Like, it's funny when you go to CrossFit, it's like, oh, this is your one rep max? Cool, we're going to subtract five pounds and you're going to do it a hundred times.

And then you're going to fucking vomit and then you're going to do it again. It's like, um, that might injure somebody. There are other ways. If that works for you, great. But normally you need to be in good shape to take something like that on, right? You can't really just start at that. Anyway, I'm glad that you brought that up because that's quite funny. I think we should check in with him from time to time.

Get motivated, man. Get motivated. I heard these motherfuckers on a podcast. Oh, man. If you shouted us out, you know how good that would be for them? Oh, my God. Two bags of milk and Jesse. And I didn't like what they had to say.

Are we doing a press conference today? We can. All right. We can always do a press conference. This one comes from atsoftmotherfucker. By the way, just throwing this out there, the American election, which is not until, I think not for 18 months Canada's got an election in 72 days

We haven't heard a fucking thing about it We have a federal election Potentially a new prime minister in 72 days We have no idea That's this year 72 days We haven't heard a thing The American election's next November

And we're hearing about it now That's how crazy or different our countries are When are the debates? The democratic debates have already started No, no, no ours. Screw theirs. I would imagine probably when all the houses come back

probably in September and October, yeah. That's wild. That's it. Well, they spend significantly less on their campaigns per capita too. I mean, yeah. I don't care. Well, I do care how you vote but you know what political spectrum I'm coming from, although I do find this very funny.

Now, one of the things that you used to be able to get away with was when it was only you know network media if you slipped up the networks would be like well they slipped up but now if you say something wrong it gets twisted and turned and replayed a million times and it's always on the internet forever and joe biden yesterday oh i said poor kids are just as talented as white kids now i think we know what he was trying to say that's not for macedale right

they're on hiatus for the summer he said it and he was saying it in front of the Asian and Latino coalition pack what?

he was in front of the Asian and Latino coalition pack which is a pack and so he went up and said poor kids are just and again

you think he was probably trying to say something else but I gotta say I think that's really funny I don't know why

I just think it's like just the ridiculous shit that's gonna come this is such a circus it's unbelievable so I saw that the other day and I was like well that's him cooked and then I went oh wait no it's

2019 and that doesn't happen anymore no one's cooked you can just say whatever you want at all times by the way with no consequence as long as 30 to 50 wild hogs don't come for you as of 10 minutes ago Raiders wide receiver Antonio Brown

had a two hour long meeting with league officials today regarding whether or not he could wear his old helmet how do you talk about a helmet for two hours his NFL future could be riding on it As in he may just decide not to play Oh my god Over a helmet

He's been watching David Goggins' videos all day And came to the conclusion He misinterpreted it Every one of these videos is about my helmet And I will not bend Here's some quick trivia From Real Cool Club On Reddit

Who had more points as a Toronto Maple Leaf? I'm going to give you two options You gotta tell me which one had more points Alright We'll alternate I'm going to ask you five questions Whoever gets the most right Patrick Marleau or Jeff O'Neill

Adam, who's your pick? Jeff O'Neill Steve, who's your pick? Patrick Marleau O'Neill, 80 Steve, you're going first this time Who had more points? Kyle Wellwood Or Connor Brown

Oh my god These are really good, thank you for doing this Kyle Wellwood Adam, who's your choice? This is important. There's a lot of writing on this. Wellwood was elite for like four seasons. He was elite for quite a while.

I'm going to say Wellwood. Wellwood. Both got that right. It's 108 to 99. Wow. Yeah. Wow, that's pretty tight. 2-1 Steve.

Brown's rookie season was like unreal. Adam, you're going first? Clark MacArthur or Jason Blake? Clark MacArthur. Steve, who's your pick? See, Jason Blake. He had a couple good years. Yeah, a lot of Leafs fans are so down on him.

But the Leafs just sucked. He was actually pretty good. Yeah, and supposedly was a possession wizard, too. I will say Clark MacArthur, though. Both incorrect. Jason Blake. Damn it. 141 to 125.

Wow. MacArthur only had 125? Yeah. But he had that 130-goal season. He has 60-plus points. That whole line. 2-1 Steve still. Second last question

Tyler Bozak Or Nazem Kadri Steve you're first Oh my god That's tough Yeah That's a good one That's tough

Kadri I'm gonna say Bozak Because he played With JVR and Kessel 365 357 Bozak Ah

What 2-2 Wow This is 2-2 This is where it comes down This is it Kuhlman Or Matt Stajan

Adam you're going first Oh my god Oh, wow. Stajan was a Leaf longer for sure. Yeah. I'm gonna go with Kuhlman. Steve? Stajan was a Leaf for so long. I'm gonna say Stajan. Matt Stajan. AHHHHH!

223 to 195. Ah, shit! Yeah, yeah, there you go. Wow! Man, what a great question. Yeah, those are great. Wow, that was excellent. 3-2 Steve.

Wow. Wow. Drama! Man, I watched that every show. That was so good. Man, the trivia stuff is the best. Next episode we'll do who has more wins. That's goalies.

Oh, okay. Interesting. I like it. I like it. Well, that was lots of fun, gentlemen. And here's the thing. We're going to be back on Monday because it's Meatless Monday, baby. Yes.

We can't miss a Meatless Monday. So we will see you on Monday so you don't have to fill up our DMs with what else are we talking about. And here's the thing. You know it's summer. Yeah. And you know there isn't a whole lot going on. So, if the fact that Jesse talked about his vacation, or we talked about Antonio Brown's feet, or David Goggins running towards the bad weather because he's fucking intense bothered

you, well, what would you talk about? And please, hit me up. I'm ready, man. I can't wait for, like, it's going to be too long between podcasts, and we're just going to start getting, hey, at soft motherfuckers, where's the new podcast? My wife and I have this thing now, where it's like, we have our fake, like, workout motivation, And so, so it's it's it we call it in it to win it and so So one of the things we're doing to work out now is we take the baby to the park and we push the stroller up

the hill and it's a lot harder than you think and then if if If one of us doesn't want to do it the other one would be like well It doesn't sound like an in it to win it attitude Okay, fuck you It's so bad because we're making we're literally making fun of those people I I love Winding up my wife at the gym. Oh, it sounds like you're making excuses. How about you make an effort? Well, when we do boxing she punches really hard when I make her mad she's got angry fists I'm not surprised

I'm scared This is my cry for help I know, picking in a fight Oh my god We love you guys Thank you so much for listening Especially to the midsummer episodes And we'll talk to you Monday

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