The Steve Dangle Podcast - Cats | April 12, 2020

Episode Date: April 12, 2020

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Steve won't let Adam and Jesse join his team (00:00), Oilers' Colby Cave, 25, dies after suffering brain bleed (11:30), friend of the show Caroline Cameron loses her grandma Shirley to COVID-19 (15:00), the vile racist outburst towards K'Andre Miller (22:00), keep fighting Brian Fraser! (31:30), when are we okay with canceling this season? (33:00), the innovation of pornography! (46:00), Adam's history corner! (54:00), Leafs trivia! (1:09:00), and TV / Movie recommendations! (1:18:00). Originally aired: April 12, 2020 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/X-PYjEHUedc Merch: https://teespring.com/en-GB/stores/fancydangleshirts Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Subscribe to us on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/steve-dangle-podcast/id669828195?mt=2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

panago pizza presents s s d p p the steve dangle podcast with your host steve dangle adam wild and jesse blake let's go well another week easter happy easter by the way happy easter everybody happy yeah sounds like it i don't know man is well this is this easter looks a lot like my last thursday did like i don't know what happened man yeah the funniest thing is people uh reminding everybody what day it is because nobody knows what day of the week it is because it doesn't really matter anymore no oh nothing matters every monday i got a text from drew about uh hey so this week's dang it is going to be and i'm like oh i guess it's monday right i guess that's the only way i know it's monday right what do you uh what are your dang it's there's no sports we're doing

classic dang it's so we're doing dang it's throughout nhl history and there are some really good ones we've done three so far what have we done we did patrick stefan uh missing the the wide open net that's the easiest dang it of all time easiest well and then and then there's steve smith scoring on his own net i think in in the playoffs in in the playoffs and it was either in game six or seven edmonton would have had five straight cups yeah they ended up losing right they did they ended up losing and i think that was calgary's only cup or was that the year they lost no i think that i think that was the year they lost anyway and then the one we did last week was patrick was statue of liberty goal which i didn't realize how

embarrassing and terrible it was he got caught hot noggin he got the call right noggin he did well and then so it was this hotly contested series between these two monsters probably the two best teams in the league one of those series where you go okay this even though it's not the Stanley Cup final is the Stanley Cup final yeah and then so he blows it they lose two nothing that game the very next game game seven they have a shot at redemption Red Wings win seven nothing seven nothing he had one more playoff run it was the next year it went seven games against the wild wild scored game seven and overtime last moment of patrick was career was getting scored on i didn't know that i'm pretty sure that's what happened i want to say wow one of the few

minnesota wild playoff successes it was yeah it was one of the few times i cheered for him i bet i bet they were in that series going like their fans were like wow it's great to have hockey back in minnesota i feel like we're going to get a lot of this in the future it was it was the heart it was the heart of the dead puck era because the the 2003 anaheim ducks were like we are the most boring team in the world in the 2003 minnesota wild when you want to bet and then they met in the western conference final jaguar got shutouts in the first three games wow and babcock was the coach of the uh of the ducks he was yeah he's this young upstart coach pretty cool outside of paul korea they didn't really have anyone they had an old steve thomas they had keith carney

on d anyone remember him uh that that isn't what i wanted to start with at all actually i wanted to start with something else you said you have a story i have a funny story you know you know i've mentioned pure later drivers and and all that because apparently we're sponsored by pure later ups and fedex and all those delivery companies and everything not this studio uh we have our pure later uh they're hiring studio right yeah purely we're hiring right right pure i mean they probably should be hiring the amount of deliveries the could they hire some more actually because amazon doesn't ship to like mid-may now and i need stuff so well if you order on amazon it comes a lot quicker than the estimated day oh i experienced that this week that that is

true however i heard a tragic story okay someone ordered my book my best-selling book i should say sorry right on amazon by which metric by by uh oh just just the globe and mail and the toronto starches just you know and so it uh this person was very much looking forward to getting my book they waited i think it was a week or two to get it it finally showed up on their door there was photo confirmation that it showed up at their door and the package was stolen oh the package was stolen off of their door here i'm gonna make the story funnier that person was james myrtle oh wow your book he i don't know i offered to give it to him but he ordered my book um and he was telling me because he's on the dangle navy team along with mike stevens and he's just like oh

yeah so your book showed up and someone friggin stole it on um on the dangle navy team thing jesse do you recall getting an invite to join the dangle navy hockey team and not at all about that weird jesse do you remember who coined the name dangle navy i believe did we not jesse did you and i not invent the dangle navy we invented that did we not we did we did an episode a long long time ago to countless people showing up in navy clothing sailor clothing yes to events and anchors and everything and we didn't get an invite to play on said hockey team i don't know why we didn't even ask do you like nhl 20 you like the game it's okay i enjoy the game yeah it's a fun game it's a fun game so just wondering i'm just i

wonder wonder what we did wrong well we can ask uh someone in this conversation okay maybe why we didn't get in we're trying to keep the show to two hours so no no you know what we do actually i wish you were allowed to be part of more than one team because dangle navy's already got too many members on it what happened when you had zero members right you were making the team that's the part i would like to know about i don't care about right now i know i'm not on the team i don't know question sometimes you know when your friends are really mean to you and say you don't pass you know maybe you forget is that what it is or did you just forget i think it's that one did all of your new teammates learn that you don't pass oh no they're mean to me too okay yeah no they just

where it mean to be yet see i'd like to start a team jesse wow let's do that and i'd like to start a team and it just i don't know what we're going to call it yet but i'd like to start a team you me justin fisher wow uh wow is ian tullock on the uh on the dangle navy he is please take him he is please take him holy cow even ian made his bed he's joined the dangle navy team He can pull a John Tavares. We can't take Mike Stevens either. He's on it. Tic-Tac Tomar is on it.

I don't know who else is on it. Tic-Tac Tomar. Mikey has been a good improvement. No, here's the thing. Remember a few years ago, we watched the pairing of Jake Gardner and Roman Polak, and we said to ourselves, what kind of idiot coach would prefer Roman Polak over Jake Gardner?

Watching Myrtle play defense and watching Ian Tulloch play defense, I get it. I finally get it because Myrtle lacks ability, but he doesn't lack standing where a defenseman stands. Oh, gosh. Ian is me on methamphetamines. You play with four forwards, essentially. Here's how every game starts with Ian on left D and me on left wing.

We lose, and I go, Ian, we're switching. He's brutal. He's brutal. He's such a talented player. He's a wicked forward, scores for us. He even scores for us when he's on D, and that's the problem. He'll be like, I got one, after allowing, like, four to blow by him. Hey, Jesse, do you think Pete Blackburn would join our hockey team?

I think so. Does he play? Yeah, I think – well, he plays a lot of Call of Duty Warzone, but I'm just trying to figure out – I'm trying to round out our team so we can go head-to-head with the Dangle Navy team. We should do one big match. We'll live stream it or something. You really know how to tear the heart out of my chest.

And, you know, in an elimination match, loser has to delete their team. What? Best of seven. Oh, my God, please. Loser has to delete their team. The team dies. They can't play anymore. Can't play as a team anymore.

Team's dead. That is a – I'm not sure who would win. You want to put it on the line. And, by the way, I'm so happy I'm on Jesse's team for this one because I wouldn't have said that idea if I was not on Jesse's team for this one. but we haven't we've never played before like our team that is it doesn't we can like practice and stuff okay it's probably pretty good i wonder if um sean i wonder if rammer uh one of the creators of the game would join us because we know him oh you didn't invite him to dangle navy either

no he's had us he's hosted us at the ea offices in toronto that's true so people could get together i'm just saying you know if we could find a few peeps i know a guy and you probably wouldn't know but I do know a guy that I used to work with on breakfast television who was in division one. And I probably could ask him to join too. Wow. So I would, I'm up for a challenge.

You got a lot of people there. That's a lot of, how many people? I know a guys I'm throwing out names. We're doing an expansion draft here. Jesse, you guys have a goalie. We have two.

Oh, really guys who actually play it. Yeah. We have, we have a goalie who's a pretty decent goalie, but he's a wicked forward. And we have a wicked forward who is actually a pretty decent goalie. If that makes any sense.

And then there's me. It doesn't really make sense. No, you said the same thing twice a different way. Yeah. And also it's a video game. So you could just play the positions. No. Goaltending in that game is flipping hard.

We alternate because we're friends. We're friends and we get along. All right. All right. Well, listen, I'm just feeling like, I'm feeling like we could find some people. I honestly think we should do a final elimination game. I think that would be hilarious.

If the Dangle Navy loses, they have to disband their team. And they're never allowed to play ever again. Or it could be a best-of-seven series because we're so starved. Oh, it would be way better if it was a best-of-seven. But we do, like, one game a night. So the game is this is when the game is. And loser has to throw out their copy of NHL 20. Yeah.

You have to delete it. Delete it from my hard drive. Or, in Jesse and I's experience, wait long enough for it to stop working on your own console and just wait for sony to shut you down actually this game you bought no it's not yours listen i'm just gonna say as the as the co-captain of the yet to be named steven or sorry jesse and adam team the not steve team um we are looking for you ringers so maybe we'll reach out to nash or see what he's up to and uh well because i know we'll be the nhl not steves the nhl not steves yeah the the the not

dangle navy no and uh we're we're we're going we're doing pink slips like what they used to do with cars it's like if you lose this race uh you gotta hand over your car yeah too fast too furious yeah that's right that's right ludicrous we're gonna tokyo drift the shit out of the dangle navy goodbye wow i'm gonna make a new character that's me with like one of those nose glasses with a mustache i am neve sangle and what is that from is that from one of those fast and furious no no he thinks so he can play nhl all right let's see what we can do hey so you know obviously um uh there's a lot going on in the world right now but um one of the one of the tragedies in hockey uh we found out this morning uh in toronto colby colby cave 25 year

old edmonton oiler uh has passed away and it was sort of a it was a shock to even hear that he was in the hospital uh there was right well they call it from what i can tell a brain bleed uh which seems like too mundane of a term for it to be scientific uh but it sort of sounds like how it how it is um terrible sad uh they haven't said what the cause would be and i don't know what a cause would be in that situation um but a terrible tragedy and something that um you know he he was just getting into his pro years you know what i mean and getting into his life 25 years old you're just starting to live yeah he just i i don't know if you read the um the post from his wife i'm i i don't know i hope it's not heartless to say so i kind of recommend not reading it because i read

it yesterday and i just started crying like it's it's the most it's the most heartbreaking thing like they got married last summer they haven't been they weren't even married for a year um just got a dog in the fall you know it's crazy you know all these things about someone you barely knew anything about but um yeah man just freaking it it didn't i guess i was in one of those moods where it didn't take much but that that did it for sure he was an undrafted free agent and he grew up on a cattle farm outside of battleford new saskatchewan i have a friend from north battleford and found his way into boston ruins rookie camp and basically fought his way into the nhl and like scratched and clawed for every game that he played he played 67 total games um and apparently

just loved the experience loved being you know he's a they call him a fourth liner with a great attitude and a real team guy and just one of those things that you cannot um you can't replace a personality like that you can't replace anyone but you can't replace a personality like that um and everything that you know when when the uh when commentators and don cherry was famous for this when commentators talk about hard working put your hard hat on and go to work this is the kind of guy they're talking about this is scratching and clawing your way to get into the nhl and live your dream and uh colby cave um was far far too young so our hearts our thoughts and prayers go to him and his family yeah he uh someone he fought in the minors pospo so

i think was their last name he posted a text conversation he had with colby cave so i guess they got into a fight uh and cave knocked him out and and uh he sent him a text right after the game like hey sorry you know i hate to see that like it's you know not exactly what i wanted to happen that it was basically the guy who got knocked out being like look what a great guy who knocked me out like yeah one thing that happens when when people pass is everybody starts telling the stories of that person and one thing about colby is just all the oilers just only have good things to say they're all great about who he was as a person you know they just wanted to say good things and all those stories are out there so yeah if you want to relive them through those

memories i encourage you to do so yeah absolutely absolutely and if you can make it through that his wife's post it is quite touching but as steve said if you're prone to cry like i am gonna be a tough one it's something yeah yeah and you know um uh it's it's tragedy on top of tragedy obviously um uh you know i i actually think this is something we should do friend of the show um and someone who's just an all-around good person carolyn cameron lost her uh grandmother to COVID-19. And you know, every once in a while, I think, because if you haven't been directly affected by it, and a lot of us haven't been, you know, maybe you've got somebody, you know, somebody that, that might've had it presumptive case, maybe, uh, when you see something

as stark as that, you know, somebody who was otherwise healthy, otherwise no reason to be passing away, um, passes away because of something like this. Um, it really puts life in perspective for you and carolyn's post about it was um very carolyn in the sense that you could tell it wasn't oh it wasn't over dramatic it was pretty straight facts but you could just feel the hurt coming through it and uh you know tough that's yeah so that's another person we'd like to shout out today because uh carolyn and her family and her family are no doubt having a tough easter and you know it's it's it's there's no way around it guys it's a tough time it's a tough time um when your own parents say to you we've never seen anything like this like anything comparable to this

you know that you're living in a um a special in many ways in the wrong way but very special circumstances and that the next 24 months are going to be quite the adventure i think that's really important the fact that you're saying our parents are saying that people have been around for 60 70 years are saying in those 60 70 years this is the most craziest thing that's ever happened to me you know yeah oh yeah it's a moment in history I was having a conversation yesterday with my neighbor and we were we have a big deck on the front of my house that we we split and uh so I went outside actually just to have a beer on my own and he came out nice and yeah because it was like I don't I don't know I was just kind of it's sometimes you got to take

a minute and have a breather or whatever and it's also one of those things as an adult you remember you can do like but you surprise yourself you rarely do it though I can at least I rarely I can I can just have a beer I can go have a beer yeah I could eat chocolate for breakfast yeah I did that today happy Easter everybody yeah yeah you can do that tomorrow I can do it tomorrow too I can do it until I run out and then I can go get some more except I don't want to go get some more I'm afraid you can drive a car if you want I could whatever all over the place sorry as long as you stay in the car I don't think it's that bad you just don't want to be getting out of the car yeah um but yeah no i was having the beer by myself and he came out and he uh he said can i

join you i said no problem and eric's cool he's like the perfect neighbor to have because he loves history as much as i do and i learned stuff from him and so he's been in the neighborhood since he's been in this house next door since 1986 and we start talking about uh about this and he said i can remember my grandparents talking about um about the spanish flu i can remember my grandparents talking about and eric's not a young man so right so he's like what like our parents age roughly 50s yeah probably probably about that yeah okay and and you know and then i remember i was talking to somebody about a month and a half ago up in in perth where i where i am often on the weekends. And, um, this guy said, you know, when I was, you know, and then the

pandemic at this point was on the horizon, but it hadn't hit. And, uh, and he said, you know, I'm really worked up about this because he said, when I was, he said, when he was younger, he used to hunt a lot and he'd go into the backwoods and, you know, the Spanish flu hit like a quarter of the world's population was like crazy. And he said, he came upon a grave and you know, those older graves that have the crates around them so that the animals wouldn't dig them up. Have you yeah i think so yes yeah so they'd have these little fences around them so the animals didn't come and dig up the bodies and he said he came across one that had it was six kids babies in one grave and it was all 1919 1919 1919 and it's just it's just one of those yeah it's just it's a

reminder that first off thankfully and hopefully this doesn't happen more than about once in a century um and with modern medicine maybe we can stretch that timeline out and and number two that this is not an easy time and maybe you know i know that you know our grandparents went through world war ii and their and their parents went through world war ii and there were lots of tragedies and lots of different backgrounds and that sort of thing but that doesn't take away from the fact that this is a difficult time and that the entire world is sharing in this and and we're seeing those numbers on like a smaller scale like in new york where they're just burying people uh by the truckload next to the river i don't know if you've seen those images of them

using like those grocery trucks to just take dead bodies out of the hospital and there's numbers all over the world where now it's being suggested that pretty much most places it's not even any one country to blame but it sounds like a lot of different places are um underselling the numbers like oh yeah they died of this the resources just aren't available to count yeah well i would like to think that's the reason it's well there's totalitarian regimes who it's in their benefit not to do that i mean china hid this china hit it and you would expect china to do that that's what their government does i mean that's that's there's no there's no politicalness to that that is what they've done i mean they arrested the guy who raised the flag

about it who was like hey there's a problem here and they arrested him um and you know have rectified that i guess in their own way since but he died of it the first doctor who who was a you know and that there's so there's you know there's going to be a little bit of that there's going to be under reporting there's going to be all of those things but it's just an important reminder that that at least with carolyn's that that brought it really close to home for me my heart goes out to her yeah it was just sort of it not that i know carolyn that well but it sort of made it a little more personal that makes sense so there's there's the personal aspect there and then there's also i think people in ontario probably know this story but anyone listening

abroad you know when they talk about like saving your grandparent or saving someone else's grandparent there's a nursing home in bob cage in ontario and you might know it from the tragically hip song and i believe there were 64 residents and yesterday the 29th died like because there was just a crazy outbreak there was um the nursing home where my my grandfather is right now i just i had a zoom call with him the other day he's 95 uh just it was his 95th birthday but they had a case and it's since that that person has since recovered but you know what he the whole family shitting themselves yeah of course is they don't know and he's 95 he gets it that's it so it's tough it's tough um and and and unfortunately there have been some things that uh that have

gone on uh and i there's no there's no good way to to get into this but i think it's something that we meet we need to mention and i think um should have mentioned over the last couple episodes but yeah we'll be the happy the the make happy podcast in a sec well yeah give us a second well this is this is the thing the um obviously the k andre miller stuff happened about a week ago um as of this recording and people have rightly asked why we haven't talked about it and there was no particular reason why we didn't talk about it no um we just haven't and i think i was talking to jesse about this before full disclosure i don't know how to broach this to get into this um or or or know what to say other than it's horrendous what happened to him and we

do know now now that the story has developed we do know that the fbi is involved in trying to find out what happened there uh and if you don't know the story he was on a group chat new york rangers you know opening uh talking about i guess fans could ask him questions and people logged in and uh and i guess people were able to get on the chat and utter the worst word in the english language in the chat like thousands of times thousands of times and this is this is about a week after megan chayka was trying to host a uh analytics conference and supposedly it got hacked and a bunch of dudes in like clan uniforms uh just got on there and started you know racial and homophobic i didn't even know that happened yeah no it was a closed conference wasn't it it

was it well it ended it ended up being it i haven't seen video of it i don't think we really need to but supposedly that's what happened right that's what i've um anyway i wasn't on it but you know jesse you retweeted something from the penguins in black girl hockey yeah that i i loved your tweet about it because it was very very hopeful so if you could kind of repeat that sentiment and and tell me like tell us a little bit about like because i mean that you you said before the show there's been a theme to this for this season involving hockey yeah as a as a person who's a minority and a ginormous hockey fan i think it's like i can't uh watch these things happen without acknowledging them because i feel like acknowledging them helps change it'll help

spark the discussion it'll help people realize that these things are going on to these uh two people and then so last week the keandra miller stuff happens and then that happens on i believe friday and then saturday pittsburgh penguins did a a virtual meetup with black girl hockey which included just a whole bunch of people on zoom including uh sarah nurse kim davis anna packer bill davis and just a whole bunch of minorities and women i thought that was just it was a perfect contrast to the previous night because you see that okay that isn't hockey culture those people are the outliers hopefully now we have this example of what we hope hockey will be that hockey is for everyone that we can have these outlets for people who are minorities

and do love the game so i thought it was just perfect to have that contract and believe that there's hope it's it's single people who are hopefully just acting this way towards minorities who love the game and i feel it it it feels important to acknowledge it on another level because that seems to be the story of 1920 like it started off with don cherry and then it went to babcock with mitch marner and then it went to bill peters and it just there's an underlying tone of we're kind of i don't know if it's if if it's weeding out the bad and that it needs to get to this level so the pendulum can swing back to hopefully a happy medium where hockey does become for everyone but that seems that way so if the if these events keep happening and then we keep

over correcting and then eventually we land to somewhere where we reach where the hashtag becomes real that's that's what i'm hopeful for and the virtual meetup of blacker hockey club and uh the pittsburgh penguins kind of it brings me hope well it was uh it was it got man with the whole um you know shutdown and everything sort of becoming the story of the season you kind of forget how bad this one was it got to the point where i don't remember which coach it was um but a coach got fired and the team had to be like no we fired him because of hockey it's dallas jim montgomery yeah was no i don't think it was him because he he was fired for mystery weird reason it was alcoholism yeah yeah that was the one where they said they weren't gonna say and then he did that

interview with uh right and that's why they said that though because it was sort of the they you know a lot of well because we talked about it at the time there were so many people speculating yeah it was it was two-pronged his his was basically oh don't worry he wasn't racist and then oh and he didn't sexually abuse anyone yeah and then it was um who was it who got fired in san jose pete deborah they had to basically be like no it was a hockey decision same with vegas oh maybe it was vegas firing was also a hockey decision oh yeah we had to fire gerard galant because we were just doing too gosh darn well and that's the way you fire gerard galant um that's just the fashion it's no it was uh but i'd rather i'd rather these stories come out and they be a

media storm than they just go under the table like they seem they have been doing for the last however who knows long yeah yeah absolutely i mean and that's that's created a lot of change like i don't think you know i where people used to say oh well that's just sports and i'm not talking i i don't know i don't know if they did that in terms of racist situations but specifically speaking to martyr and babcock you know which is not even close to being on the same level as obviously bill peters and um and what he went or what he what he did to other players before he moved to the nhl level or what happened to calendry miller but you know when it comes to the subject of just treating people right um just because it's sports it doesn't mean that that you have

license to treat people like shit and i group them in the same categories as just bullying and racism and just treating people fairly you know because it's supposed to be a game about fun and coming together that's what sports is supposed to be and if you're treating people like that i'm just putting it to the side of the category of things we don't want in this game that's a pretty good yeah i mean i don't you can't really disagree with that i think yeah i mean that's the that's the um and that's the hard part is there's been a lot of uh surprisingly when you think about it not a lot's been made of that but there was a lot of demons that sort of exercise from uh from the um from the nhl this year in terms of and i'm not making any particular person the demon but

you know there's a lot of things that came to the forefront that were pretty pretty ugly and needed to be dealt with and uh he's named yeah you know identified and it doesn't mean the problem's solved but i think i certainly feel like we're a hell of a lot closer now than we would have been if none of this had happened so and i think it's it's good to look at it from that angle that we're growing as a as a collective yeah and and growing can suck and be painful sometimes um it sucks to hear those stories i mean it when we talk about this stuff we talked about the bill peters stuff it wasn't something remember we had sean fitzgerald on you guys remember that did we have him on or was it babcock i forget no he was on the day after the don cherry

comments because i remember right in studio when ron first addressed everyone on home right right right and that was that was a surreal experience too yeah it's like which incident you know yeah yeah exactly i know and watching it with sean who is so smart and so amazing at reading is like like my problem with situations like that is i get too close to them and then i can't see the bigger picture sean's so amazing at kind of zooming out and going okay but what's the what's the holistic approach to this what does this effect have on everything else and watching it and the insights and stuff that he had you know it was fascinating to hear him talk but I have to tell you after the episode it just I was just sad and these are the things that nobody wants

to deal with which is why they've been swept under the rug for so long nobody wants to face this stuff because it's not fun and hockey is supposed to be fun but if you don't face this stuff it's not fun for everyone which defeats the purpose right right so um you know i think um you know from everything i've heard about kandre miller he's just an awesome guy i hope that that is the last incidence of anything resembling that that he ever has in his life forget hockey just in general um and i hope that this is one of those things again another learning experience like the megan shaka stuff like the don cherry stuff like the bill peters stuff learning experiences for all of us even if we weren't a part of the situation still an opportunity for you to learn

from it so um anyway that's it's a tough you know it's some tough conversations but they need to be had yeah um so guys you know i i mean well i'm sick of hearing about this yeah us too so yeah help us help us not hear stories like this anymore yeah don't don't be a part of that shit um there's somebody else and this is this is also heavy too but i would like to shout this person out brian fraser who is a stp listener and has been for a very very long time is currently um fighting acute leukemia in ottawa oh gosh and he uh more recently ruptured his spleen um and he's doing it all without his parents and brothers being able to see him in hospital due to restrictions obviously um so uh there were some posts tagging him in it on his facebook page

um this week uh but if there's ever been a reminder also to stay at home it's it's brian obviously um he's got to be in complete isolation going through all of this stuff um and we salute you brian it's a tough time for you uh but we love you and we're thinking about you and he seems to be it's funny the picture of him is just him doing like the peace sign and he's got the heart monitor on his on his finger you're a fighter dude he's in his hospital like yeah just got through the ruptured spleen uh and that's that is not fun i have a buddy who ruptured his spleen it sounds like the worst pain in the world oh i can only imagine so yeah man the guys that's a fighter and brian we salute you man thanks so much for for listening this long and keep fighting man

we'll be rooting for you um guys to to to break away from from the heavy stuff for a minute um are you interested and i want to i want to know what you think are you interested in hearing about who is against the idea of the nhl jumping directly into the playoffs should they be able to get the playoffs started uh i think i think i know who you're talking about you think you know who i'm talking about i think so who do you think who do you think that is wasn't it connor mcdavid uh well he might have been but actually i find this this answer um more interesting okay the person who's really not happy about maybe losing 12 or 13 games is sergey brovsky oh not happy about losing 12 why well he said i think it's not fair to jump into the playoffs because

i believe there's 12 or 13 more games that's lots of games and right now we're in the mix we have the opportunity to be there and they just cut it off i don't think it's fair he's you can't just cut off where we are and move right into the playoffs he's not wrong he's not wrong he's not totally wrong i think he's 100 wrong no there needs to be something for the bubble teams you can't you can't cut off the standings from where they are because the teams haven't played the same amount of games see here's the thing to me don't be a bubble team leave no doubt the Leafs are a bubble team they're in it they're on the right side of the boat what do you what do you want them what do you want them to do well first off Bobrovsky

wouldn't be playing in the games you wouldn't have been playing okay sure right that's fair all right he's playing horrendous hockey this year you gotta you gotta get everybody to the same amount of games played at least or you do what Frank Cervalli suggested and roll it back to 68 games which I think I mentioned in the last show so if you're a bubble team that won games 69 and 70 frig off yeah too bad wow you also need you need some sort of tune up because you can't have guys just coming in cold and this is game one of the playoffs right yeah I think that'd be sick as hell I would love to see a bunch of sloppy hockey players playing it but you're right they wouldn't do that i i i just i man do you think it would be like watching a demolition

derby if you went right to game one of the playoffs yeah oh like it would be bad hockey totally it was and everyone everyone would pull everything everyone oh they're gonna be totally healthy yeah until like game three and then it's gonna be the kalamazoo wings against the gwinnett gladiators it's gonna be brutal it's gonna be brutal hey okay here's here's one let me ask this then hang on one sec guys one sec my dogs are barking oh i don't know what steve yes go ahead no no no no you want to continue yeah keep going oh okay uh when on what date because people have been pretty optimistic about this the nhl has obviously been very optimistic about this or at least gary bedman and the owners cj was on last show and he wasn't very

optimistic about this and i gotta admit i'm not either yeah on what day are we gonna finally just be like it's canceled i think there are there's a question to answer your question are you comfortable with moving next season moving it how back so instead of starting it in october we start next season in january how comfortable are you with that adam we're asking i'm sorry one dog gets started the other dog gets started they don't shut up i have to go and calm them down and let them know that the squirrel is is not going to impede on their territory as much as they've marked it squirrels don't care about how much they pee on trees it's very you're just sort of de-escalating a situation there's a lot going on anyway steve steve asked the question

when are you comfortable with canceling this season and i asked a question to his question are you okay with moving next season back i think is the answer to that question well so the nfl is saying that they may not start games well the rumor is they may not start games till november that's the rumor yeah like i'm i'm i'm i'm so pessimistic about this or i don't know if it's pessimism or i'm just like watching the news every day and seeing the update and like there's so many things that are completely disassociated from what the medical experts are saying like in ontario um i think it was the education minister stephen leachy was was saying oh yeah the the may 4th return date we're still on track for that every other thing that we've heard suggests that's

nonsense no large events through june heading into july have already been canceled so yeah you're illegal in toronto that's not a date yeah he would only say that because politically they have to hold the party line until doug ford makes an announcement right so he's not saying that he he wouldn't and i and listen i'm no fan but he he is only saying that because that's what they've announced so far and nothing's changed because they haven't made an official announcement exactly i totally get it i totally get it i'm not even holding it against them but at some point they're good they're going to do it the 2019 2020 season will be canceled not unless you're okay with 2021 being

started in January. Then you start this, then you finish this season say from September to October, through the end of October and then you give a little off season, then you restart in January. November would be great. November would be great. I think Jesse might be

closer to right because we already know we can have a 48 game season that starts in January and have it go just fine. Right. It's been done. It's been done and recently. yeah uh that to me would be that's probably on the range of more pessimistic at this point november sounds great but i think the 2020 2021 season is going to get moved back and possibly

shortened no matter what yeah uh the 2019 2020 season i there's all these really fun ideas out there and fun has nothing to do with the facts we can humans are remarkable we can come up with all kinds of fun and creative ideas but if we're not allowed to gather we can't do it yet the the ufc had this fantasy that they were gonna have like the friggin plot to what is it mortal combat or there was another movie um wwe i was reading last night uh they had wrestlemania but now there's they're worried about suspected cases in the company yeah i i just don't know white was gonna buy an island and then he was gonna fly in all the ufc fighters and they were just gonna fight daily on the island just have them breathe and sweat on each other like who it takes people

to run an island man like yeah it takes yeah didn't man you never watch fire festival for come on dana you never it takes people washrooms and and everything and what do you what do you think what do you think one person one you've never watched a zombie movie in your life one person brings that shit to the island over your whole everything is over and you're gonna have a fight every week like i sorry that's a aside from the nhl but when is this i i don't think it'll finally get officially announced until june and by that i mean the day after the end i'm not i'm not i'm not wholly convinced that you couldn't do the playoffs it just depends on where they're at medically in the summertime i mean they're they're not revisiting this until like

june right it's just not even going to be a thing no we don't have enough information yeah yeah and that's the thing is that they're gathering now i read an article today that oxford university the head of vaccinology there is they say they're about 80 sure with a vaccine that could be out by september great there's a good piece of hope i wouldn't pin all my hopes on it but hey nice to read some good news it would be unusual for it to come out that fast sure but you can imagine they're gonna rush anything they're gonna anything that they could possibly rush they're going to rush it through trials. Hopefully there's no side effects. Usually it takes 12 to 18 months, but I think we all recognize that these are special circumstances and we need a vaccine

like yesterday. And then there's also the route of, if we get enough tests, then we can do a lot of more things because if you have, if you have enough spare tests that you can really much run anything and you could have people who don't have the virus doing lots of stuff because you can be constantly testing them. We're not at that place medically either. If you're not taking resources away from hospitals at that point if they get because there's a lot of companies making sanitizer masks gloves or everything that you need if at that point you're not taking away from the medical profession the whole point of flattening the curve it's not that you know it's it's it's it's not that this follows any sort of different trajectory it's a little bit more

infectious than the than the flu it's it's trying to keep people out of the hospital and trying to keep the hospitals from not getting overwhelmed and uh and trying to prevent things that what like what happened with the seniors home in brace bridge and so you've got to or sorry bob cajun so you've got to um you've got to have all the tests you got to be able to sequester the teams nobody's going to the arena they're like so that's out so it's going to be empty um and you got to be prepared for you know probably a few games a day um so like i would imagine it'd be like hockey back to back to back i would think they would do three games a day they're gonna have to shorten that window to do the playoffs because the playoffs are like two months long here i got a

question for everyone listening how many of you are so desperate for sports that you have been watching south korean baseball well they brought it back they did they brought it back and it's empty ballparks and it looks and sounds pretty odd but it is but they did it they did it but my question is what happens when one player on one team gets it well i think that they've got the the test done and i think that south korea has been a model for how you want to handle something like this absolutely done an incredible there's a uh there's a great vox video if you follow vox on youtube please go to their channel and watch the video on south korea and how they uh they completely flipped the uh the virus going on in the country there are some they they're allowed

to limit some human rights like they have it they literally have an app where you can see okay someone who tested positive for the virus this is what they did for the last three weeks so so you can be like hey i'm gonna go check the app and see if they rode the streetcar that i ride every day and you can go and you see okay they were there on uh november 2nd and that sort of stuff so there are certain human rights things that they can do in terms of people tracking that we can't do here but that stuff no that stuff led to the virus being pretty much eradicated in the country right so it's a fascinating video i highly recommend yeah i'm down with getting rid of the virus i'm not sure i'm down with that bit totally yeah but still interesting well and like i saw i

saw this thing they used cell phone data just it was like one in six ontarians or canadians or something like that had traveled over the past week which is down from one in three which is great and i'm like man i'm not comfortable with you knowing that shit and also you don't know that someone was traveling for nefarious reasons or no yeah that's not fair they're not going to a party with ezekiel elliott like uh freaking um wasn't that like two of the cowboys got caught at someone's birthday party really no i didn't see the story no yeah yeah it was i thought i read something like that last night um like you can you know what if they're a truck driver or What if they're dropping something off at someone's house,

which is still allowed? Perfectly fine. Well, Steve, as a person who's already skeptical of technology, I didn't imagine you'd be a fan of any tracking. Goddamn right. But I have to tell you, Steve, it's funny here anyway. My friends Dale and Boomhauer also agree with my skepticism. I think whether you like it or not, it's coming.

And this is the perfect way to introduce it, right? I don't like it either. but i i have a feeling that this is going to be stuff that i mean they they have a lot more and i'm not trying to get info wars on everybody but like they have uh they have a lot more information than you think they do well they have a lot more information and you already think they have a lot of information imagine how much information they have so you know it's it's a how many people watching this tape up the thing on their computer i do i do yep i got a little mark actually under for my camera where i tape like it actually is imprinted on the screen my parents had to like

rub off the glue so that we could have a zoom call the other day because because we just assume there's a guy like fbi guy is just like watching popcorn well listen if he wants to watch me if he wants to watch me watch it don't say it netflix like this okay thought you were going somewhere else with that oh okay or pornhub what's the report on adam wilde still watching tiger king sir oh oh god that's not tiger king did he just sign up for porn hunt premium i don't know it's hard to tell what is that also uh fun fact there is tiger king porn now is there because it's been a week in the internet now do they is do they is it the tigers or is it carol baskin and joe exotic i didn't we all want to see together just i didn't look into it but you can go find the

articles oh my god what are you gonna do because it's been a week and it's the internet yeah of course yeah well and you know what's amazing is that they were able to do that i mean they must have broken broken quarantine to do that they turned that around really quickly you know what i mean like think about that no i don't think it's hard to produce those adam well i understand but you're not allowed to get together with people so how did you do it but if you already live with them in your frisky and whatnot adam wild what what if i thought i mean we all got cameras the fbi is watching us through them right now you just press record get down and upload that but i get some tiger makeup damn we i bet we would get a lot more views on our videos if we did that

guys for sure should we start uploading the podcast to pornhub can we i we could just make an account why not why not why not why not i don't why not why not i think we might have an idea yo uh there was a i think there was a radio station in toronto here that actually did ads on on pornhub and it was really funny and i think they had like they were like it was a little bit more of a male skewing radio station but they like they're like here's a towel clean yourself off adam here sorry this is radio 101 man can you can you back up and explain to everyone what pornhub is please uh it's a it's a uh uh an exotic site for big cats erotic erotic cats where you get to watch all the videos that your heart desires for free for free so it's like it's like youtube

then it's like youtube but for porn and in fact jesse what was the story you were telling me that pornhub called out youtube for stealing some of their their technology oh so no one thing we learned in school fun fact is that if you want to the uh porn the porn industry is always the front runner for uh video so all of the all of the like streaming technology that you see usually starts somewhere like pornhub and one of the ones was uh you if you put your if you put your mouse over the the scrub the scrubber the little cursor there there's a little preview that pops up you'll see like a thumbnail and then youtube took that technology and a lot of the live streaming stuff that also comes from porn so yeah if you ever want to know where video is head uh porn is first to

place that 4k on the internet so if you ever want to see where video is heading go to porn and then it usually comes afterwards to the rest of do you want to roll it way back because back in the day when vcrs were 500 in 1980s dollars the only thing you could buy for them were workout videos and porn videos that was the reason people had them so they didn't have to go to the movie theater to watch porn they could stay at home buy it and watch it whenever they wanted and from what i understand and again i my my history on this is a bit foggy betamax and vcr sort of went head to head and betamax was the better technology betamax lost the betamax lost and not the full reason but part of it was the content available on vcrs was greater easier to produce and it the audience

went towards that because of the pornography videos and in fact there was like a there was a workout video i think it was like suzanne summers made a workout video in like 1980 and put it on vcr or on like a vcr like a tape set and they said what are you doing why would you put that on vcr like that's for porn and she's like well but we think we could use it for something else and she like sold like 20 million of these workout tapes for people at home because it was so associated with porn that people wouldn't put like anything on them it's crazy some dude with a big gut getting out of his car hey how you're gonna be watching some workout videos yeah you know just working on it ted it's crazy trying to get in shape for summer it's july

yep well here's something for the uh future whenever uh the world breaks through on like the uncanny valley the uh the place between you recognizing that something is a robot and something is a human it's gonna first happen in porn because someone is gonna robots somebody is going to invent a great sex robot and it's going to feel like a human wow that's they say we're not far off that there's like gonna like it's gonna have emotions like like a simulated ones yeah or vr it's gonna happen somewhere somewhere in vr through ai you know but it's first gonna happen in porn so it's wild stuff man keep funding the porn industry i think this is the first in-depth conversation we've had on porn in the show's history which is pretty interesting

no maybe well i mean you it's funny what like it is sort of funny that that's the industry that is always under the most pressure to innovate so they create amazing things with extremely low budgets and then everybody else with a big budget and a little bit more mainstream or a little bit more accepted by society family friendly family friendly comes in and steals all the shit that they came up with it's i think that's really interesting and it's funny that's normally how life is but the the they've taken all these movie executives sending sending texts like past midnight like i just had a great idea yeah 100 oh oh do you wake up from a dream yeah i had a i had cheese before bed listen shut up it's called doesn't matter you know you know

that little bar at the bottom what if what if the bar at the bottom what if we oh you can see a little video preview i just came up with it how do you pitch that at the youtube head offices wow where did you come up with this idea well i can't take full credit well is hulu or i can't remember where i said listen it's a great idea we gotta be doing it listen shut up yeah let's we're we're an answers company not a questions one can that's right just accept my answer that's right um uh so i i don't know how we got on this conversation nope nope me neither me neither but i was wondering today because not a lot of hockey news uh broke outside of what we obviously mentioned earlier in the show

Do we want to do a bit of an extended press conference? Are we down with that? Jesse, you can accommodate such a thing. Yes, yes, yes. All right, let's do it. The Presser SDP. The Steve Dangle Press Conference. If we're doing a press conference.

We get 25 delicious minutes of press conference ahead of us here. If we're starting off with a press conference, you know where we have to start. We have to start with Adam's History Corner. Now, I have a backlog of like 5 million questions from listeners. But today, we have to do a little swerve around those questions. Because Bill Maher said something outlandish last night. He's known to do that.

Weird. He said that we should call the coronavirus the Chinese flu. Now, that is not the point I'm trying to make. Jesse believes that. By the way, Jesse believes that. No, I don't at all. jesse said please let's call it that they don't at all but pre-show we were talking about jesse racist racist yes yes yeah for sure especially when it comes to sickness so anyway sorry jesse

factual please spit your racist information on our show we like that here so we were talking we were just talking about porn now it's racism all right we're talking about racism we're talking about the spanish flu yes and adam brought up an interesting point about how the spanish flu isn't from spain was not from spain or something so you guys know the story you wanted to talk about that a little and not anything to do with bill maher's racism well yeah well okay so listen i've full disclosure i fucking think that real time uh his show is very very thought-provoking but he's a fucking lunatic um and i don't agree with a lot of the stuff that he says and that especially is bullshit and i'll tell you why how many times during show prep do you think he just

goes how about this and he just like yeah comes up with some fucking bullshit you know like anybody else that's what they're paid to do is to be like to they're crazy so they're paid to be crazy right this is the kind of crazy that sells um and and i think in this particular case there's first off i don't know if anybody knows this but china is sort of a big place is it so the first place that it really this virus really took off was wuhan but there is and and it spread very quickly from there but wuhan is a city center where people come and go all the time and as much as they say they know about this they're going to be studying this for 20 30 40 years don't be surprised if in the same way that the spanish flu was not spanish that this did not originate in china don't be surprised

it may have originated in china it may have originated from the bat soup thing that they were all talking about because because china has said no more eating wild animals dogs or pets they've changed all the rules on that like changed all the yeah down with that rule they because because the world has pressured them into doing it they had changed it in the past and then they once the world stopped watching they changed it back oh is that what happened yeah yeah so this happened with the uh it correct me if i'm wrong but i think it was the avian bird flu which also originated from the like a chinese region and then they were pressured by international pressures to switch the rules and they did for like almost a decade and then once people stopped paying

attention they kind of switched it back and then now they have to do it again so hopefully they stick with it right so the reason i don't like diseases being named after parts of the world or groups of people is because it creates it puts a gigantic target on their back maybe not for you and i like maybe we wouldn't be well i'm gonna be i'm gonna go there are people out there who would be like oh it's the chinese flu i'm gonna go and be i'm gonna do something terrible to a chinese person who has nothing to do with it you know that there are people like that i've seen many many many many people like that i've seen many videos right yeah so in the midst of in three years into world war one and this is where the history comes in three years into world war

one a flu started to develop and the flu where it developed interestingly was a military base in kansas united states had just joined the war and this flu developed and this patient one whoever it was, may have spread it to a couple of guys. They moved the entire division across the Atlantic Ocean. And I might be a year early on this. Maybe it was 1918, because that's when the Americans really got involved. 1918, let's say, they go across the ocean. They land, 100 people are sick. And it spreads from there. And it goes to, from what we know now anyway, it goes across lines. It doesn't the international boundaries. It goes, you know, you know, British, French, American to German, Austrian, Ottoman, all the way around. The reason that the Spanish flu was called the Spanish flu is because at that time, England, France, Germany, Austria, the Ottomans, Italy, Canada, the United States all had one thing in common. what was that one thing that spain would not have in common with them what do you think i'm gonna

i'm gonna assume that you're not gonna get this but you're you're gonna be shocked at the answer what could be the one thing that those countries all had going on besides the fact that they were involved in the war in spain wasn't what was the one thing they had in common i have absolutely and what year is this this is 1917 1918 1919 huh what do they have in common they all had something in common and it's pivotal i would say to your belief system both of you and in fact most people listening to the show would find this to be an extremely important tenement of how we live our lives and what we believe is right and wrong was it was it was spain was was spain ruled a certain way politically that was different than all of them sort of on the right track with that

and spain had a mess of a century in terms of leadership but was it fascist or communist no not yet hmm was it religious nope not religious i don't know the reason that it was called the spanish flu is because all the countries i named and all of their colonies and there was that's most of the world at that point they liked ps4 over xbox no but they should they made the right choice yes um and the spain was like no 360 is better we've been playing mets and then we graduated the xbox one and we're gonna get the next xbox as well yeah i always thought it was over nothing like yeah it was pretty stupid it's even more petty than i thought and then the rest of the world's like no we started on ps2 with ps3 and now we're ps4 people what spain had that the

united states england canada well i say britain so you know we're talking about new zealand australia uh canada great britain france and its colonies um america all of them did not have at that time freedom of the press what spain had freedom of the press woodrow wilson uh uh i mean the british had the wartime act which i believe was the thing that restricted the press so they censored the press so they would stop stories from being reported properly the french had it uh canada had it uh because if you have too many horror stories coming back from the front lines nobody signs up for your war like what what happens when you throw a war and nobody signs up yeah then you have to start drafting people and the united states and this is interesting woodrow wilson

to me in my in my opinion was one of the worst presidents in american history for this reason um there were a couple reasons i don't like the 14 points that he put out there because they were very very vague and anybody that knows woodrow wilson knows what i'm talking about and they lost they caused more problems i think than they solved number two he put into he put into he put into i know woodrow wilson from an episode of simpsons okay so he's a guy uh so what what was it that that they they referred to him as um what did they say they he was not popular he was he was very popular hugely popular really hugely popular unless you had to deal with him i think the british prime minister called him jesus he was like he's like oh i have to deal with jesus like

because he was so let me look so focused on his on his thing so woodrow wilson puts into the thing there when america goes to war at this point it becomes unpatriotic and therefore you can go to jail for criticizing the war effort or anything that could be deemed to harm the war effort so they put together a very general clause so if you're reporting on this flu pandemic that was happening in kansas at the time that could be considered because it was at a military base unpatriotic and they throw you in jail well the only country in the world that was reliably reporting this stuff at least as reliable as you could in the middle of a world war and at the beginning of the 19th century sorry 20th century was spain so that's why it's called

the spanish flu because the first time anybody heard about it in mass media was from spanish newspapers no get out so it actually from what they blamed them for the flu because they were just reported on they were the only ones reporting it that was so most soldiers on the front lines hadn't heard about the flu and then all of a sudden so these spanish newspapers keep talking about this flu that's really devastating and then all of a sudden it's devastating across the world well i guess it came from spain and you can see how they would have thought that but they he who smelt it dealt it a pandemic yeah yeah and there's pretty good evidence to suggest that the allied powers and probably the central powers as well knew quite well where it came from and just

weren't talking about it oh yeah in fact they kept hiding it from the soldiers because that would distract from fighting a war and it started in kansas like in america i believe that was the that was the that's the that's the prevailing thought i don't i don't know if you can ever prove that completely um but it was um let me just see i googled woodrow wilson real quick yeah i was wrong i was i was definitely thinking about someone else yeah there was there was something about the federal reserve i won't get into it that's adam there was an episode of the simpsons where they were trying to create they create a fake uh boyfriend for mrs krabappel and they used the name Woodrow as the fake boyfriend because of Woodrow Wilson and they used a picture

of I believe Bobby Orr. No Gordie Howe. I remember this. Do you remember that episode? Yes it was a picture of Gordie Howe. There were a lot of like random hockey things in the Simpsons like a lot More than other shows, and it's because of, was it Matt Groening? Yeah, a Canadian. Yeah, he's a hockey fan. I just looked it up. I just looked it up just on the Spanish flu, guys. Sorry to distract you from The Simpsons.

Please tell me you're totally wrong. First known case, military base, March 11, 1918, Kansas. Wow. There it is. That's the first known case. It doesn't even mean it started there, but that's the first known case. And they call it the Spanish flu. Yeah.

Sucks, right? fucked up or the spanish lady because at the time they said things like spanish lady um but i i uh that's why i would have a major problem well there's more than one reason why i'd have a major problem with calling something the chinese flu um we don't know where the hell this thing came from they still don't know where the spanish flu came from and yeah you can pin it down but you know that science changes all the time or that that you know i i'm not an epidemiologist but i would assume that there could be some questions raised by anybody that said definitively it had to have started in this province i don't think they know zero is yet i just don't know and and

so and beyond that it's it's just a really fucking dangerous thing to do and not good so anybody advocating for that cut your shit out it's stupid call it covet 19 this is why scientific names are here because it has nothing to do with where it came from who cares where it came from yeah did the chinese handle it properly and did they create a cause a bigger problem than then they probably should have yes and but the chinese government acted the way the chinese government always acts they try to suppress suppress suppress and then they went oh fuck we can't do anything all right i guess we'll work with it it's like when you're a kid and you're like i can hide this from my parents until it gets into a big enough issue and you're like

fuck i have to go tell my dad yeah you saw you guys saw chernobyl right like the chernobyl thing the russians were like okay we're gonna hide this we're fuck we can't hide it yeah that's how authoritarian governments work that's what they do so anyway they the the chinese government acted how the chinese government acts please do not label this on a on a on a on a country or a random border that humans have created and or a group of people it's covet 19 it's coronavirus there's a reason why it's scientifically named please don't put it in that because we should have learned from the spanish flu 100 years ago that that's not necessarily true and that there's reasonable doubt you see all those memes you see all those memes it's like winnie the pooh saying coronavirus and

then it's like winnie the pooh with like a top hat mnemonical covid19 yeah i just say co i think i think they should have picked one just one they have it's covid19 i know but why coronavirus first so covid 19 is what you get from coronavirus so coronavirus is the it's the new coronavirus because there have been previous coronaviruses so then and then covid 19 is the disease that you get from coronavirus so coronavirus is the carrier basically is the virus is the virus and then what you get is you have covid 19 wow yeah science dude technical term good thing we don't have adam science corner i was gonna say i was gonna say so we just had chris johnston on last show at some point i want to get the hockey guy but also like a doctor

like i think we should have a doctor that'd be good why not man i actually i do know someone who works at um oh god what's the giant hospital he one of the giant hospitals i'm sure it really matters to this story a researcher no it doesn't but no i could get this person on the show i just give you shit man and uh covid 19 stands for coronavirus disease 2019 i believe oh there's covid 19 does it damn jesse i didn't know that anyway there you go what other questions have we for the press conference i'm gonna pull this one up if you give me steve a moment yeah let's get let's let's get hung up on a small detail that'll be all the whole story yeah what do you think i'm definitely down for that always i'm definitely down for that always anyway the guy

that was robbing the bank was uh driving uh i think it was a chrysler no oh god oh yeah oh my god anyway it was fast it was fast he drove fast i'm the worst you're just my favorite you're my favorite boy how could i possibly be how could anyone stand this s he's still looking at pictures at questions can you can you name steven adam the player directly above austin matthews on the list of all-time goals as a toronto maple leaf and the player directly below austin matthews on the list of players on the all-time uh goals leader for toronto maple leaf now one is a current leaf that is the one austin matthews just passed uh so he just passed a teammate yes and it's all-time goals on the leafs on the leafs man i would have said oh sorry i'm looking at points oh you know

let me uh let me refresh this refresh this let me refresh this all right so we're gonna change the question a little okay one two three four can you name the four players that matthews just passed on the goals leader for the toronto maple leafs all-time goals leader just goals so one of them's a current teammate so the four players he passed none of them currently play for the leafs okay to our legends to our recent toronto icons big fans big parts of the team guys love them huge part of losing to the boston bruins well not one of them is nazim gadri then we got four we got four names you can put your heads together come up with four names given to our legends to our recent leafs this is from marco d tulio on my dms i think you're right on

Kadri Kessel's a tough one because Kessel Kessel pretty consistently put up 30 goals a year there's Matthews couldn't have passed him already what season is this for Matthews four yeah but he could have two goals in 230 plus goal seasons I mean he's close to he's closing in on 200 goals already you want his number yeah Austin Matthews has scored 158 goals as a leaf I can see a world where Austin Matthews has more goals than Nazem Qadri. Yeah, Naz, for sure. Naz, I mean, Naz had the two 32-goal seasons,

but he's also, like, really struggled. He's had some down-season scores. A few times. I'm going to say... Qadri, for sure. James Van Riemsdag. Oh, man, even him. Because he's not passing Kessel yet.

Because Kessel had, like, four or five 30-goal seasons. Didn't he? yeah but like 530 goal seasons is 150 150 but we're talking about a big part of losing to boston we're both guys on that boston team jesse uh kessel was not jvr uh no jvr was on that team yeah well which which boston series i guess is what we're talking about well jvr was in all of them 2012 or no no he wasn't he was oh you said 2012 2012 boss kessel that's who we're talking though yeah Kessel so Kadri Kessel and two guys are legends yes and two guys are legends or do you want to and two legends Dave Keon Norm Ullman Dave Keon's a good one because he was a leaf for

a long time but he wasn't like a goal scorer he was like a two-way forward he hasn't no he didn't Do you think Dave Keon only has 158 goals? I'm just saying you guys are way off on that one. Are we? Yeah, yeah. He's more like a defensive guy. He's got over 300 goals. Oh, wow.

All right, well, I'm going to say Keon because that was my answer. Keon's third all-time on Leafs. Okay, well, I stand by it. I stand by it. Lanny McDonald. All right, so give me your four names. Kessel, Van Riemsdyk, Norman, and Dave Keon. Kessel, Kadri, Keon, and Laney McDonald.

Out of your eight names, you got one. What? Was it Kadri? It was JVR. Oh! Adam beat me 1-0. All right. Wow.

Adam, way to go. Thank you. Thank you. I meant it. It was on purpose. I for sure knew. The four players that Matthews passed this season on the all-time goals leaders for the Toronto Maple Leafs were

tyler bozak number 31 on the list he has 136 goals as a leaf number 30 darcy tucker 148 goals as a leaf borya salming 29 148 goals for the leafs and 28 jvr 158 goals borya salming had a lot of goals those are good names he did did you see the video of him he had like a potted plant and he was doing uh russian twists was he ab exercising he's gronked he's someone his age he's like almost 70 or something yeah man i saw him once face to face at the eaton center he was just there after it was after the legends versus legends game the detroit toronto one that remember the next day austin scored in overtime i think you were there steve i think that's the i i was i got to see him is that that picture the picture yes it is um i got to see

borya um brian mccabe called him skeletor because he was he was the fittest looking guy on the entire team yeah he's in incredible shape and an underwear model of his own borya salming underwear boxer briefs in sweden he is 68 years old he's going to turn a nice 69 this week wow april 17th um this freaking guy played 1148 games 150 goals 787 points as a defenseman wow that's a lot that's he played one season at the end of his career with detroit yeah because the leafs were freaking jerks let's talk about things that should have never happened for a thousand yeah well the least were freaking jerks man i don't know what else you want to say they were the worst back then the least were the worst terrible terrible organization to play

for um okay jesse one more question we have time this one comes from cole hayes cole hayes wants to know for the next podcast could you please ask adam if he's been washing the lower half of his legs in order to stay safe during the pandemic interesting that's a very interesting question and the answer is no i'm washing them the same i've always same way i've always washed them so no no ew um i don't know if that's ew or if that's the smart thing to do but i believe it's the smart thing to do no i i i i probably have i haven't even thought about it to be honest with you so there's little things like okay here's one have you been receiving packages a and b have you been opening those packages outside what because that's what they tell

they tell you to do is if yeah if you receive a package you take it out of the box outside you bring it inside and then you obviously wash your hands so you leave the box outside yes i mean you don't huck it into the street but you just you just don't bring it in the house that's all i don't get into the street i know people who are disinfecting their groceries before they put them in the fridge absolutely not absolutely not and you know what like i'm in isolation so i i don't feel the need to do that uh wash them wash them well you wash your veggies but i'm talking about bags of chips no i know people that are doing it you should wash your hands not the chips no you wash the you wash the bag of chips that's what they do i mean i super don't

want to get it no but if we get to that point i think i'm done i think i'm done i'm not sanitizing for my own pride i am not sanitizing a bag of chips that's funny i think i super don't want to get it but like if it's i draw the line at doritos um do you guys bastion of freedom do you guys have a movie or television show recommendation for anybody else in isolation i'm gonna go first i've watched the two first uh uh parts of the purge i know there's like are they good there's eight parts now or something like that but i watched the first two movies of the purge and they are really good are they yeah yeah i really enjoyed them ethan hawks in the first one he does a great job that's a guy yeah he was he was huge for a while and now he's like

in the purge there's certain actors that disappeared to one movie series that has like 10 parts yep forever like all the people in fast and the furious except for the rock like do just that he's not in the second one so i don't know if he's in any of the future ones but next up is purge election year so i'll see where that one goes that's the third purge and then amazon really good one amazon started a series there so now there's a tv show about the purge and my favorite part about it is uh imagining what it would be like in real life so i was when i'm sitting there does not sound like the least but you put it you put into perspective like real life i would think like oh if i worked at like i work at bell media bell

media would have a clause and like if you work here you gotta sign your contract no bell media employee is allowed to participate in the purge like it'd be stuff like little things like that how society would be different is that a thing no but i would think that's just what i think about during these movies no i thought there was a thing in the movie like hey listen if you work at blockbuster right or like go whacking someone from video 99 all right right you can't can't go do that or like you might your your your workplace might have like a safe hub on purge night if you work here you can come to this safe hub and we'll protect you and your family purge parties you know there's a great plot for a movie the whole thing with the purge party where they're all safe and

someone goes in and that's like it's like purge meets saw like alien versus predator jigsaw during the purge i want to play a game in the movie the purpose of the purge is to get rid of like the lower class citizens so they have they have like some it's like a like it's a spoiler alert the the government is killing some of the oh steve doesn't want you don't want to hear oh no it's all good it's all good okay the movie's like 10 years old if you haven't watched it yet i think it'd be okay like the government sends some trucks to get rid of some extra people like an extra round of homeless people and lower class citizens the poor because normal people aren't doing enough killing so that so the government sends out their own military trucks to just to

off people it's fucking it's crazy you should watch the dude i should watch that anyway watch that what are your two i love dystopian shit man that's that'd be interesting it's good um you didn't hear this story steve but jesse and i talked about it on the other day um jesse and i talked about this story on uh on the on the morning show uh somebody uses the siren from the purge to uh to there's a curfew in louisiana and i guess it's like nine o'clock and and they thought the government was doing this it turned out it was just some random person but they took the siren from the purge and started blaring it so the entire town could hear it and people freaked out yeah

yeah anyway cool and on that special note no you guys got to give your recommendations oh what's our recommendations so your movies give your movies tv movies what should people watch well um i have just gotten into and i am way behind on this parks and rec is just so funny I have Amazon prime because we, the, the owner of the, um, uh, we wanted the ability to order things in, especially when we had a kid and it was like, you know, you're just not going to be able to get to the store and now you really need it. Uh, damn, that show is so, so well done. And if you're a fan of the office, it's like the office, but TJ said, it's like a little bit more digestible, like easier to get into, uh, than even the office. It's really, really well done.

and you cannot believe it's like it's like future superstar future superstar future superstar like the cast is outrageous like it's so talented everybody on that show like there's not a person on that show who's not an enormous star now have you gotten have you gotten to the season where paul rudd is is uh no is he in it yeah paul rudd is in it and he is so funny oh god i can't wait i can't wait so good steve what's yours uh i'm gonna say some of my old ones because i haven't watched a ton lately but uh there was too busy playing hockey with the dangle navy right i mean yeah and red dead for the third time oh really yeah i i gotta stop um uh schitt's creek is super good no canadians uh discovered it until it was on netflix but it's a underrated treasure same

with Working Moms, another Canadian show on CBC that no one really knows. What's with you and CBC shows? They're good. Also, Family Feud Canada with Jerry D. I saw that the other day and it was good! The National. Talk shit about The National again,

Jesse. Talk shit about Peter Mansbridge ever. That is my adopted father. How dare you? Peter Mansbridge hasn't been on The National for four years. No, I know that. He was on Ice Surfing more recently than he was on The National. yeah he was on ice serving last year um uh and i'm i'm not new to this party but if you haven't

seen it yet and you're in the mood for a weird laugh kim's convenience kim's no heartland so heartland is about no that's even worse no no no um i think you should leave that's a great show on netflix yes i wasn't yeah telling jesse to leave what is it about i think you should leave no it's a guy i forget his name he used to be a writer for snl and he did a sketch comedy show for netflix and it's just fucking really weird all right all really weird i imagine if you're high it's amazing um it is you imagine but also sober it's better or it's it's also good okay oh hey as long as we're talking about being baked i tried something last night what did you try i don't know where i don't know where we're going but okay where are

we going cats oh oh yeah you did mention this and i made it 35 minutes before i just had to be like what the not so it is a straight up musical yes cats is a musical yeah but there's no spoken lines it's all singing yep and if you can't understand them you just missed the whole plot the main cat i'm like boy they've adapted to life outside really quickly and it's fucked it's and it's just full every cat that you see is an actor that you vaguely recognize and you go every every one of them every actor fire your agent that idris elba is in that movie james corden is in that movie like none of these people needed the money needed the money what isn't he like super naked in it too like don't you see aren't they all naked

so i read and this was this was this was from seth rogan getting high and watching cats he was tweeting about it getting high and watching cats and someone said that they had a friend who was hired i don't know if this is true here you want to tell so tell the seth rogan part and then i'll i'll give you the the snopes uh explanation oh okay so supposedly supposedly someone tweeted at seth rogan and said they had a friend who was hired to work on the movie cats because the original edit all the cats had buttholes and this person's sole job was to get rid of the buttholes which prompted seth rogan to start the hashtag release the butthole now is that true jesse now so when they filmed the movie they didn't include buttholes in the

cat so that would be ridiculous but in some instances there might be like an elbow or like a knee crevice or just something a speck on the cat that looks like it might be a butthole so there might be something on the costume that might be there in one particular frame or scene that might be interpreted as a butthole so they did hire a couple cgi artists to go through the movie and editing anything out that could be interpreted as a woman's vagina or a butthole or a penis or anything like that. Anything that could be interpreted that way. But it wasn't designed with those things in mind.

It's so shocking that something so bad could have cost so much money. You know? And also, like, if anybody had ever seen Cats the musical, it was hard enough to follow. Why did they feel like Cats never – Cats doesn't make sense. like if you've seen anybody that's seen cats is like that made no sense it's nonsensical right it's a nonsensical play so why would make why make it a movie if you don't know what angelical is going into the movie you're fucked and that's a word that's not real so if you don't know the

word that isn't real heading into the movie you have no shot you have no chance watch now we're gonna get what is there cats twitter is that a thing are you gonna are we getting canceled by cat's twitter are you gonna finish it i'm ready i don't did i finish it are you going to try and finish it no uh i don't know i gotta go to the ocs website i don't know i don't know man i don't know i'm running out i don't know i don't know well on that butthole note we're going to wrap up the show um i i agree with seth rogan they should release the buttholes at release the butthole at it release it um listen thanks so much for listening we'll be back wednesday continuing to do our show uh we're not really sure what the content will be at this point but

i'm sure we can find something to talk about in the meantime we are going to start doing a few more um extended press conferences so if you've got a couple questions send them jesse's way and i know we've got a huge backlog to clear as well so if you have submitted jesse seen him we're working on it all right yeah you know it's mostly steve and i's fault because our answers are so damn long but yes we love you we'll see you soon the steve dangle podcast follow the guys on twitter at steve underscore dangle at adam w y l d e and at jesse blake brought to you by panago pizza order at panago.com and stuff your face with deliciousness connection complete