The Steve Dangle Podcast - Crisis Averted | January 9, 2023

Episode Date: January 10, 2023

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, subscribe to The Objective Basketball Podcast with Es Baraheni and Lauren Gunn (00:00), Adam hates Christmas (02:00), Toonie Steve (10:00), the Dangle Navy EASHL Team (14:00), the ridiculous CHL trade deadline and tanking for Bedard (21:30), Conor Timmins is on FIRE (42:30), the Leafs are getting depth scoring (49:00), who is having the best season on the Leafs? (57:00), trophy predictions (1:04:00), do the Leafs have a goaltending problem? (1:13:00), John Tortorella hates the All-Star Game (1:20:00), why is the All-Star game popular? (1:35:00), Canada's new favourite Game Show: Point a Game Player! (1:41:00), and SDP vs Arkells (1:48:00). Originally aired: January 9, 2023 Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://help.sportsinteraction.com/hc/en-us/articles/216779528-Responsible-Gaming-Self-Limitation-Self-Exclusion Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Ontario Only. Must be 19+ or older to play. Visit this episode's sponsors: https://sportsinteraction.com/sdpn Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

big day on sdpn why we would like to welcome our newest podcast new year new podcast the objective basketball podcast with s and gun uh you've obviously already met s he's done some videos and stuff for the sdpn channel we've been waiting to find him the perfect co-host and we have lauren gunn is joining us from austin texas baby love that so it's an international show they're going to be covering all things like all the big stories in basketball two times a week mondays and thursdays i believe do i have that schedule right mondays and thursdays yeah monday so uh these guys don't know so i'm going to go with myself on that one uh we're really excited for them and we're pumped to be getting into another sport and i know um i know that uh

obviously it's been a predominantly hockey channel but we know that you watch other sports because we talk about them and you respond to that and the great thing about this is this is sort of the beginning of the next sort of crop of some we've got some other shows on the horizon too that we're very very excited about this is just the first and uh bocce ball bocce ball yeah that's right we're gonna do a ping pong yeah exactly we went to the same spot table tennis i said ping pong yeah actually we do have uh another one that we're very excited about uh in the next couple months as well that's fort so be listening to that and subscribe subscribe on apple music spotify amazon google they're all up right now you can go to the feed you can hit subscribe if

you want to give it five stars before you even listen like they'd appreciate that yeah and also i don't think you can do that actually yeah yeah no on spotify on spotify you can't you can't no you can't on apple i've tried or if you want to watch it as always our podcasts are available on our youtube channel youtube.com slash sdpn let's make it happen start the show this is steve dangle podcast powered by sports interaction with your host steve dangle adam wild and jesse blake i've got my sdp oh we're not doing that sorry new year no balls um i got my sdpn holiday mug out Just to celebrate the fact that the holidays are over

To celebrate Steve did you know that Adam Weil is the Grinch Oh no so I'm the Grinch I have very gradually over the last year or so Realized that I married Adam Because You married me a long time ago

We've been together a solid decade and a half When was your Christmas tree out on the curb We're talking about the same thing December 26th What the hell It's gone Our Christmas tree was out on the curb before i was out of bed it was a unboxing it was a week and a half week and a half till they came

even to pick it up too you guys are like her mudgins jingling no no no i thought that's had nothing to do with it that's ellen adam no my adam wife took all the decorations off really and she's five feet tall it's like an ant carrying a leaf she lugs the the tree out of the house hi ho hi ho except not jovial and green and the grinch um well at the beginning of the movie my very dutch wife uh does it as soon as christmas is over uh is like what's the point of this i don't know if you know this about the dutch i'm learning this about the dutch they're very fucking direct they're very they don't mince words and she's like it's christmas uh christmas is done time let's move on yeah but you obviously agreed with

it well it was one of those things that like as you know it's very on brand for you i think with with any relationship you're like is this the one that i need to plant my flag in the earth over and it wasn't for me i didn't i didn't feel passionately one way or the other either way i was taking the tree so you know the holidays extend until the kids go back to school so that's like today so today you're dropping your tree i took down my tree never because it's still up and you know why because it's your damn home yeah because i don't care and you make the decisions there also my tree's like six foot tall it's not even six but it's like three foot tall because i live in a tiny condo and it's still up in the corner because like it's christmas still it's

five foot tall it's just what it looks like to just yeah everything is three it's a regular size tree but it looks small to me but i think christmas season ends when the kitties go back school which is today so like now's the week you take down your tree you throw it on the side of the road like this is this is the week this is it yeah and then you and what the kids do is they on their way to and from school they pick them up and screw with it and they throw it at each other and they you know just black eyes and and broken it was breaking just break off a branch and poke your friends on the way home slap them with it yeah you would you wouldn't know this because you've never lived in a condo adam i don't know if this ever happened in one of the buildings you

lived in but every year they have to send out this giant memo like four times over the holidays and like again today and all week long don't throw christmas trees down the garbage chute oh i never got one of those every year some fucking moron does it and it it backs up the entire thing for like two days because they gotta go call the garbage company and they gotta get in there and push out this damn christmas tree it's crazy i remember when okay so when i was 20 still on this planet i was living in a low rise in halifax when i was 20 and i had a girlfriend and she was living with me and yes we were very very much too young to be living together but you know when you move it it is what it is we moved in together move cities and whatever and so we had a real

christmas tree and after christmas we're sort of like what do we do with this and so um uh we weren't really like there was a garbage shoot obviously we didn't do that but we were in clayton park in halifax which is right on the edge of where like the forest begins you know unlike other cities like toronto is like it's a never-ending city because next to toronto there's saint catherine's and well and niagara and clarington on the other side and markham and everything else to the north or whatever toronto did like this part of the world just doesn't stop being a city there's little pockets of there's there are trees here yes rare though rare in in other canadian cities the city ends and trees begin and they go on forever so we were at the

part where the city ends and the tree begins and so we we took the tree and we threw it off of our balcony in the middle of the night thinking that no one would hear us oh my god your chair girl and it made a huge crash but but it's four it was four floors up it's a low rise and then high up enough to kill someone and then i went and walked around and dragged it into the forest and then the next i thought oh i'm being real sneaky and then the next morning there was very clearly like an indentation where the tree had fallen and a bunch of needles falling off and you know it looked like it had been swept all the way to the forest yeah you threw a tree essentially out the window yeah oh yeah is it like it was just you open the door and

there's your balcony go yeah and that was at 9 a.m on christmas morning before sam can even get there it wasn't um it wasn't so listen there's a lot there's a lot to get to there's a lot that we missed i'm actually going to be going through some um some headlines that uh that we may have missed over the holidays and seeing what your opinions on some of these things are because some of them are dated now but in the moment much like most headlines it felt real what is that i found it i found it so i went to my phone the screen no no this is a image of somebody trying to throw their christmas tree inside the box so is this a plastic christmas tree so yeah it was in the they put it back in the box and they tried to stuff it all down the

garbage wait an artificial tree that was a real tree yeah no this this time this this one of the times when i have this is this image is from when somebody tried to put the tree back in the box and then stuff it down the shoe stupid people out there okay so when that when they have to send out those notes and by the way i've never had one about christmas trees but i always wonder like i lived in a condo that was like i don't know 30 40 stories when you get clogged on the 17th floor how do like how does anybody get that like is there a pole that they ram down there they're like okay i hope this goes down i don't know how do you unclog that i don't know i have no idea the people who do like construction work and like those kinds of maintenance stuff like

so out of my realm yeah they they know so much and i know it's a little yeah i the cn tower has never ever gotten old to me every time i look at it i go how that's how what is the cn tower steve the cn tower is the seattle space needle but way better what's its purpose toronto it's i think it's a tv transmitter it's a radio transmitter radio transmitter even worse sorry yeah yeah no no don't i don't i don't mind um i put the uh picture of the christmas on the screen for everybody kind of crazy idiots you've never lived in a condo have you uh no wow no yeah because you went from your parents house and you bought the house in ajax no in oshawa in oshawa excuse me now i'm in ajax and now you're now you're in the jacks

the jacks wow i'm the mayor of a new town absolutely have they embraced you oh yeah for sure yeah definitely do like any of that any of that i am very much a dad uh ajax is perfect for you and i love i love supporting a local business i love it there's a brewery down the street and i have supported them let me tell you go in there buy the beer operation zillion beers is in effect adam he's got a beer fridge in his basement and and he was facetiming natalie and i during remember the the watch the game with steve dangle that he didn't end up doing because i broke my face he just faced he just facetimed us and talked for an hour i think leo only kicked me in the nose twice this holiday oh that's good yeah it was good good i

feel good about that um one new year's gift for you is that our good friends at sports interaction have their app ready to go and i wanted to so you could just just search sports interaction in the app store on google play i wanted to ask you steve because you've been toony steving it all all holidays oh yeah explain what that is uh well okay so i'm not a very experienced better so i need a way to do this uh where it is fun but also responsible because i don't want to uh like bet i don't know 50 bucks on a game and then lose and then be like well this freaking sucks i don't want to do this anymore and the whole point about responsible gambling is setting a a limit well and also like it's not my career right you're just having fun with it i'm

just trying to have fun with it so my my rule no matter how sure or unsure i am of a bet two bucks now you can't negate that by betting on 200 things in one night i had a 400 night baby but they were all two dollar yeah i did i had one day where i bet on i like over a dozen things because i was betting on like the season-long things like who's gonna win mvp and coach and whatever but most nights i don't know two or three six bucks did you bet on jared mccann to score against the leafs because i saw a bunch of listeners tweeting us going thanks for the free money guys appreciate that see i don't want to bet the former friends props the leafs and the few times i have bet on former friends uh they haven't scored which might be the two or three times the leafs haven't allowed

a goal from a former player i i got uh carol kaprizov to score the other day jesse would you bet against the leafs all the time do you yeah if there's a good line i'll take it i won like 70 i won 75 cents on the leafs beating the flyers last night i bet on them to be i like I like betting the Leafs when they're down, so I can win regardless of whether or not they win the game. I very often

bet against the Oilers when the Oilers are leading. Oh, that's a good one. That's actually last night, man. Dude, they were losing. I think they were down whatever that game to St. Louis was a few weeks ago. I was

like, eh, they might blow it, and then they did, and I won like six bucks. It was great. pretty good yeah i like the least when they're like uh like plus one and a half goals you know because they're down by two goals or something and then i can win even if they lose by one i haven't dipped my toe that far yet yeah they don't have a lot of comeback this is like that hasn't that i did that a lot last year but this year hasn't really been the case because they haven't been trailing right a whole bunch so there hasn't been many opportunities to bet the least like that so we've got uh props for you right now uh under dangles doozies we actually come up with these

which is kind of cool like we get to customize the bets and the whole thing is we sort of uh want to create like the best and most fun bets for hockey anywhere so you can't get them better than sports interaction so you can download the app check it out under dangles doozies and of course you got to take the william nylander is he's going to score the most goals on the leafs this year jesse still has that one and feels to get very confident about it right jesse yeah i want to see where they're sitting right now i don't remember if i took that i think i took him to score 50 willie yeah yeah how you feel about that oh i mean i don't know not great that's why you only bet two bucks

i'm not i'm not very good at this oh man that's funny oh that's good that's good um okay so yeah willie's up two goals on austin same amount of games played they put full season 41 22 to 20 i think willie holds on austin caught up though when he scored the sixth goal last day we were like oh damn yeah i was because i hope willie scores every goal for the least so uh he didn't catch up steve he's still two down when okay so austin and willie have a two-on-one yeah willie's the puck holder austin better pass it back when willie that's right what do you scream at the tv Don't you dare! No!

Absolutely not, Willie! He did it. Thanks. Austin has to know you got to make that third pass. The second pass, I guess. Once Willie gets the puck, it's got to go back to Willie. We've all played NHL. Yeah, you're right.

We've all played Chell. Cross-crease tic-tac-toe goal every time. until about 2017 and then they were like now we're not going to do that anymore it's back oh it's back yeah oh man i remember when that game came out i was like what the like the only way i know how to score because i never bothered to learn any of the dekes oh so i was like what the i can't score anymore you know what's killing me as a defenseman is now when you poke check whoops when you poke check you slow down oh which makes sense you got to do it really strategically oh see i was poke checking at a penalty so i stopped doing it oh just in general oh so you're

mike stevens then is that what mike does the penalty button which is stick wow no one stick lift doesn't work yeah stick if you're trying to show off yeah and it just does not work he goes and he gets angry and then goes and turns on the batman again and 40th time i think the most angering thing about mike stevens when he takes that penalty is his utter disbelief that it happened it's like what what do you mean no how the same way as last time mike stop doing it okay okay power rank this the top three worst like like stupidest penalties you can take when you're playing chel like the ones that like you will drive your teammates crazy uh the stick lift penalty or the the the this the penalty button yeah it's the penalty button the stick lift

in what order though that's that's one that's number one that button serves no purpose for you like getting the pop like it doesn't help oh okay okay yeah no it's awful number two is probably the charge um because uh it's easily avoidable sometimes it's accidental it's it's avoidable but the odds of you laying the hit and not being out of position oh yeah on a charge because you gotta be you gotta be pressing like the speed button right you gotta be you gotta be going a fair speed fair distance coming from center ice to hit a guy against the board yeah and then i'm pretty good at not tripping i would say for me i get frustrated when i take an interference because it's very often i just hit the wrong guy by accident i got one uh when

somebody presses l1 and r1 at the same time and you do the dive across never mind i do take that superman and then the the player with the puck just goes over them you got tripping pedal yeah you know that you're you can't be doing that like is that what happens yeah so they'll just run they'll just fall over you and there's a penalty on you there are ways to not take the penalty when you do it it's just really hard yeah so stop hitting r101 steve so i'd yeah i know you do it don't you i try to do crouch block more yeah but it's not the one one knee one yeah but now it's it's that's even worse than the poke check because when you do crouch block while you're going backwards you don't slide anymore you just stop dead basically you

kneeled out on the ice yeah well if i'm trying to cut off the two-on-one which i am often thanks ian um you know what i love about steve nothing has ever changed jesse when we played with him steve always was the same way which was how come you're not doing exactly what i want you to be doing right now without me communicating how come anyway continue um we have a recipe it doesn't work and we stick to it that's right and uh no yeah so when you when you do the crouch block you basically stop dead and then they're able to you don't cut off the pass or the shooter which is great for the goalie except it's not and then they score and is dangle maybe are you guys good again now that you have some time over the holiday to play a little i think we're pretty

good yo myrtle is a sick goalie okay he's the i i we've talked about this before but i call him the paywall yeah and he's oh man he likes to put together the worst set of goalie equipment he can find like just very visually upsetting and he just puts up solid performances you won a couple games yeah yeah i won some games what div what division uh i think we dropped to two you were div one we were that's impressive man those those are hard games well really impressive listen it depends on who's playing okay there are nights where we should probably be in div 5 there are nights where we could probably what's the ultimate lineup no you have to be honest who are you skating who are you benching for the one the lineup where we have the most fun you know what's

that we're gonna break up dangle maybe right now you know what i'd like to do is i'd like to do an anonymous survey of all the other members of the dangle navy group and and talk about steve's biggest faults and stuff i think i'm gonna do that oh i'm gonna reach out to them start a group chat and be like okay guys i throw stupid hits yeah there are some nights where i'm just like oh but it's fun and then i try to throw a stupid hit and then it's a two-on-one that ian has to take care of you guys ever like because i know certain teams are super intense have you ever gotten to the point where you guys are sort of mad at each other and you have to just be quiet oh oh yeah oh we have there's one member of our team nick who will just laflame no no uh nick

laflame oh okay okay okay nick cash yeah and he will just turn off his mic no way that's a that's an adult thing that's the right move and the youngest member of our team yeah i met him he's very nice oh you don't want the silent treatment from nick it's like the silent treatment from jesse you know you're in trouble when jesse isn't saying something it's it's this is the worst for us oh torture it's terrible he's not mad he's disappointed yeah no and me not saying something is the first two years of the podcast because you know i couldn't get picked up and i was just so upset often on those episodes that we were disappointing anyway so you know i understand that you know i just resentment just building resentment i have to walk from the ghost station

and Steve gets his chauffeur, you know? Oh, that's right. I had a two-seater car, and I didn't know Jesse was coming from the GO train, and I would pick up Steve at the GO train, but not Jesse. Jesse did the very adult thing of solving the problem by doing nothing.

I handled my business. I knew whose name was on the show and who needed their carriage ride to Adam's apartment. Yeah, okay, listen. you had to walk 20 minutes uh in the winter for many months but i got you a ceo mug so it's all better now hey so i have a i have a question i have a question um if you're in a position to get the first overall pick okay this is big which montreal

has never had never had thank god we we solved that riddle can i tell you the hardest part of these holidays yeah all the times we were wrong on the holiday episodes and not being able to say anything about it i know yeah our picks uh you fucking moron we were there merry christmas it's hard to make picks like three weeks in advance and like the caps going on a fucking heater like 18 and one over the course of me saying that they're gonna tank sabers too the same the sabers that was adam right is that me oh what i don't know one of you said the sabers were bad and they decided to probably just destroy the world i don't hate the sabers then this is this is the fun of the holiday episodes is whatever um but i i uh i'm just i'm specifically pointing

to a story in football yesterday uh the chicago bears and the houston texans both had a shot at uh the number one overall pick the all the houston texans had to do was lose and the houston texans are awful like really bad and i i have a question though before i get into the fully explain this story because the houston texans were by the way finished the season 3 13 and 1 so they were back they got a tie um let me ask you this as a general manager do you believe that you could and this goes for any sport do you believe that you could go to your head coach and say please lose i'm fairly certain you're literally not allowed to do that like legally oh actually well yeah you can't throw a game could you say don't win you could say play this guy

play that guy try this strategy um try the strategy where you just let everyone blow by you or whatever but you cannot expressly say lose that is called match fixing okay oh i see i see um see the bears i told you that the texans record was 3 13 and 1 yes the bears record 3 and 14 Oh heavens So had they not tied a game They would have been tied for that And it would have been like a points differential thing

But what happened yesterday was the Texans went in with 2 wins And all they had to do Was not lose the game But right at the end It was 4th and 20 Jesse explain It was 4th and 20 for the Houston Texans And they said fuck it

We're throwing a bomb We're trying to win this game We're trying to get this third win of the year And they completed this Improbable throw Not even just to get the first down They scored a touchdown on that Fourth and twenty play

This was their Boyd Devereaux hat trick It went through the arms of the defender Right into the hands of the Houston Texans Wide receiver From the Colts who are also bad As an organization Especially in National Football League where there's no lottery You come in last, you get the first overall pick

the draft like capital from one to two is so important you need that one pick it's it's probably gonna be a quarterback named uh bryce young he plays the ncaa right now and then the bears are probably gonna trade that pick because they already have a a quarterback so they don't need it but they're gonna get a haul like they're gonna get so much here and and houston they could have taken that quarterback or traded that away um and it's as an organization you need to put your players in a position where you have to try and lose the game yeah you have to put the guys on the field who are just worse than the guys you have you can't chance it in a way where hey we're playing all our starters we're going for this no play every single backup make sure your

head coach like lovey smith he got fired today he's going out there trying to win the game obviously because he has nothing to lose but like if i if i'm the gm for in situations like this is fourth and 20 maybe you just run like a little slant that's kind of a two yard short of the line to gain like maybe you don't get that first down if you're the gm you stay up all night like the grinch and go into the locker room and just cover everything in like honey and maple syrup and sticky shit and just i don't know but you're not allowed to you can't make them lose yeah you can't make them lose but you got to put the team in a position to lose you already had an awful season you you have two wins on the year there's no point in winning this game you're only hurting

yourself by winning and it's awful they won they fired the coach anyway they won 32 to 31 just to give you an idea of what jesse's talking about here um the la rams and we talked about this on the podcast back in the day in 2016 they traded up from the 15th overall pick to the first overall pick to get jared goff back in the day and it did get them to the super bowl right not uh yeah with golf yeah yeah and then they traded golf for stafford one of the picks now the uh lines have the rams pick and they're gonna pick in like the top five for the ramps up this year but they got a super bowl so um uh here's what the trade looked like to trade a first overall pick uh the rams uh obviously got the first overall pick they traded their first pick their second pick sorry two

second picks that draft okay okay then 2017's first pick and that third pick and then the rams also received 22 2016 picks but they were like low round that's like a whl trade it's like a whl trade and that is why i bring this up okay because you tweeted this yesterday and my question to you is after watching the world juniors oh i know why win if you why win if you have a realistic shot at the playoffs fine if you have less than 40 points at the time we are speaking and i picked that number for a very specific reason okay do not try to win games that's 10 teams by the way if you want to include the panthers i do not you don't so that's the thing they don't have their first pick oh montreal has it and it's not top 10 protect oh that was charotte wasn't it no

fucking ben oh what's the charot trade oh which is looking worse than ben charot might get the montreal canadians conor baddard damn oh and florida the panthers let me just say as a team who has to play in your division but also in montreal's division what the fuck man they need to straight up so they have 40 points there's a reason I picked that they have a bunch of teams above them Buffalo is one of them

they're not in a playoff spot but they're hot as a pistol and what's interesting about Buffalo is their goal differential and that really counts they're a plus 22 where everybody else around them is like a minus 7 minus 8 Buffalo is the real deal like they're doing great they're good yeah they're good

they're straight up good and then there's the Kings who are top 10 like they've been all season and a negative like they've been all season i know well they know what scoring goals right i don't know i don't get it um you can't miss this guy florida might have to do what the leafs did when they accidentally traded away scott niedermeyer in exchange for tom curvers um which is similar situation you spend a first round pick over a year ahead of time you don't realize you're gonna be shit then you're shit florida like people i i've seen we're talking about florida trading off assets you dumb asses buy buy

do you want a team in your division to get connor friggin bedard they might get them anyway they might get them anyway with their own pick yep you idiots what's the lottery odds to get one overall you gotta be top, bottom 20% there's a cut off in the bottom you gotta be in

no if you don't make the playoffs everybody everyone who doesn't make the playoffs but the percentages are very low for literally everyone right right I don't think it'd be 20 anymore because there's a different amount of teams but it's

uh it's like 18 yeah there's ways the people have been posting the the most terrifying thing i saw over the holiday is um when people do the draft simulator and montreal gets one and two they easily could you you can go bedard fantilli bedard mitchkov bedard as long as it starts with bedard it's gonna be a big problem so he had 23 points in seven games stupid like why would you Honestly, why would you try to win? Trade everything you have. Do you see his return to the WHL last night? Yeah, what did he have, another free assist or something?

He had six points, four of them were goals. 13 shots. Two of the goals apparently were shorthanded. So I was right on the number one pick. You need to be at least in the bottom 10 because you can only jump 10 spots. Oh, you need to be in the bottom 11 because you can only jump up 10 spots in the draft lottery.

So if you're bottom 12 You can't get the one overall pick You only jump up 10 spots I don't remember that So I Just think after that performance There's no realistic reason

Why any team south of Florida Literally in the standings should win If you don't have 40 points Stop Those teams as of right now include The Detroit Red Wings, Ottawa Senators, Vancouver Canucks philadelphia flyers montreal canadian san jose sharks arizona coyotes anaheim docks columbus blue jackets and chicago blackhawks now one of those teams even has the illusion of being good

so let me ask you about all of those teams i'm a bit surprised of the teams i've named you know detroit's going to be good they're just not there yet of the teams i named what team is going to screw this up what team's going to go on a heater of the of the of the bottom bottom 10 from 23 to 32 in the standings. Absolutely none of them. Nashville's a good team. Nashville is a decent team with good goaltenders. Nashville's above Florida.

Yeah, I'm going south of Florida here. What sucks about the Panthers is they're one point up on Detroit and one point up in the Sens. Florida's played 41 games. Sens have played 39. Detroit's played 38. So by points percentage, Florida's below both of them. They're fucked.

i don't understand florida did some weird stuff this offseason like why you got rid of your head coach who did amazing things for you and traded hubert oh and he was great for you and hubert oh and wieger yeah to bring in kachuk who's great which is a it's a forward-facing move like you're thinking about the future but but the floor the panthers don't have your first you were win now Dummy, you don't have your first. What are you doing? Ah, he just had the highest score. Like, I know Huberto has struggled.

Like, I'm not saying it's Kachuk's fault. Like, you got, you cannot reasonably expect Sergey Bobrovsky to ever be as good as he was last year ever again. They're fucked, man. I can see Montreal getting hot because Montreal plays really hard. Like, they don't have the talent to be a contending team,

But every night they're trying really hard What's their record in the last 10? They're 2-7-1 One of the coldest teams in the league Yeah but I'm saying they could get hot I'm not saying like hot And they go on a 10 game winning streak or anything But they can stay afloat

The best last 10 of all of those teams Are the Ottawa Senators and they're 5-4-1 Yeah they've been alright They've been alright The funniest answer by far is Vancouver Oh man can you imagine? Dude JT Miller is So this is the text Steve sent us.

I'm fascinated with this player. Oh, you have it? Yeah. So Steve sent us this, and this was his, was this his bottom stat line or was that midway through the game? Did this change? No, no, this was at the end of the game. So his stat line after last night's game was one goal, two assists, three points, two even

strength points, and a negative two. He was on ice for three even strength goals against. And one of the quotes we missed over the holidays was him saying, well, the reason I'm not producing as much is because I'm not cheating the game as much as I used to, and I'm playing better defense. he's one of the most shocking defensive players in the entire league bar none you'd you'd uh you'd have to pay to get him off your team well now you do and what's crazy is they were talking in the intermission shows and they're like well the the Canucks don't want to pay more more for Bo Horvat

than they did for JT Miller they're just why not why they're not a smart organization man like but this was supposed to be top down Rutherford Alvin Castingay uh they were supposed to be like this crazy brain trust the game they've done nothing owner owner owner here start at francesco aquilini right yeah now who's beneath him uh jim doesn't matter go ahead name another one patrick doesn't matter name another one emily cast doesn't matter okay if your owner is a bag of rocks it's you're not gonna get anywhere you're not gonna get anywhere uh listen i don't care if you have three points got outscored boo bad well it's like the van reams dyke bozak castle line they the only line that could score for the leafs and they were a minus yep they out uh they scored

the most points on the team every night and got outscored those teams were bad yeah they were bad man don't know what you want man there was a clip going around of tyler myers like oh my god shocking what about his like he just he was chasing someone behind the net bailed and took the far post like the post not like okay so okay here's the net here's the net is he chasing behind the net so he's chasing behind so he's on the left side of adam's phone goes around the the attacking players on the left side of the phone goes around the back of it and uh comes to the right side myers stops up here and takes this post sits on the left post and so naturally wow um uh i want to uh i had a look at it and i love this by the way the ohl trade deadline this year

is super interesting because an nhl player like shane wright could be dealt and will be dealt likely it was cool actually on saturday night when i was at the game because shane wright and a few other players like owen back were were there from team canada and shane wright got the biggest cheer and got a standing ovation i just thought it's like a kraken player getting a standing ovation there's something a little bit weird but if it's also amazing it's captain i know but it was just one of those it's like how that's his story's easy to cheer for absolutely it's easy that like man uh his season is not gone uh probably the way a lot of fans of his would have envisioned i gotta say you know for all the shit we gave seattle they're looking pretty smart

right about now oh yeah they're still in a playoff spot and their top prospect who's not uh in the league right now is probably going to the london knights because he doesn't want to go to ottawa or barry yeah that was uh ken campbell who had that yeah um i don't think it's official yet not yet but uh no he's he's doing great and like who feels better about themselves right now than him you know oh it's a great way to boost your confidence yeah when when he was a healthy scratch all that time i'm like this guy must like freaking hate hockey right now and i haven't seen him uh without a smile on his face for a month i um i want to talk a little bit about the ohl trade deadline because obviously shame rights involved in that and you know bedard's involved in that

like people are all very interested in what's going to happen chl sorry chl yeah so the trade deadline's fascinating because these guys will trade picks three four or five years into the future and steve so they capped that apparently oh did they because they were trading like infants and now it's four years into the future that's the max you can go but you can trade as many why does hockey just why does hockey limit itself like what are you doing why what purpose does that serve i don't just trade the fucking pick who cares but anyway steve i want you to read this like you're stone cold steve austin so i am the cam loops blazers and from you i have received olin zellweger what and ryan hoffer no no oh i want you to read this you're the silver tips

And you have received Look at all the draft picks Are unbelievable just on their own So okay you gotta be The mark then You gotta be the jabroni mark And you gotta say what Drew Anglott

What? Caden Hamill What? Rylan Pierce What? Jack Baker What? 2023 first

What? 2023 second What? 2023 fourth What? 2024 first what 2024 fifth what 2023 fifth what you're 2025 first what 2025 third what 2026 first what 2026 second what conditional i'm glad they put the condition on that pic by the and 2026 six what what 2026 yeah get out of here it's an unbelievable trade and it's got

one two three four five six seven eight it looks like 10 picks and also um the silver tips is this the same one or did i did i uh yeah the everett silver tips uh oh no that's the same one that's the same thing i i had a different uh trade lined up but i reposted it twice in my notes forget it i just think um it's funny and i think down goes brown was tweeting about this he's like general managers in the nh are like oh i don't know what we can do uh yeah and then i know the ohl doesn't have a salary cap but that's what you can do oh they don't they don't freaking care like they uh and and it's been like this forever this is a particularly big one so do i still have it in my phone i what i tried to find was uh there were two two trades i thought of

with astronomical returns and i found this one head coach and general manager lauren mulligan announced today that the saskatoon blades hockey club have made a trade with the brandon wheat kings to acquire center braden shen in a 2012 third round pick in exchange the blades have given up four picks a first round in 2011 second round in 2011 first round in 2012 and a first round in 2012 uh the import draft the blades also included two uh prospects uh airton nickel and tim mcgauley and the other one that i thought of was tavaris now this one yeah i remember that one i wrote about this in the book because it uh i i had to uh write and prepare the shows for junior hockey magazine for gino retta and just as i finished my script for the day

this trade was made and i had to crumple up and throw the entire thing tavaris's agent pat brisson confirmed the deal on thursday the deal includes five other players and six draft picks defenseman michael delzotto a first round pick of the new york rangers and goaltender uh daryl borden are also headed to london while oshawa receives a package of forward christian thomas defenseman scott valentine and goaltender michael zador in addition the generals will also get six draft picks london's four second round picks for the next four years and the night's third round picks in both 2010 and 2011 wow big big deal because you got to swing for the fences if you think you have a chance you got to go for it well and london always seems to

have a chance and it seems like they're going to get shane right eventually you know uh what happened in london though what happened that year they lost the tightest five game series in hockey history they lost to the windsor spitfires who ended up winning the memorial cup ryan ellis and taylor hall and all them um they lost in five games each one of those five games went to overtime oh wow yeah wow what a series that must have been you're you're a goal away like it could have gone could have been a london sweep could have been london in five who were the night's two top centers that year uh i don't know if i can't remember if both of them played center they might have even been on the same line but it was nazem cadre and john tavaris that's right

very very very good team um not bad very cool anyway the the ohl trade deadline super fun to watch so what i want to do is is talk a little bit about the leafs this weekend sure and then i want to go i want to rewind the last couple of weeks okay guys so that's how i want to kind to structure this let's start with connor timmins who had my god seven career points in 41 games coming into his leafs tenure and he now has 10 points in 12 games and i'm curious as to how he could even be scratched at this point and his first nhl goal i he did not have a perfect game against the flyers but like he's a good player man it's not just about the points um he does a lot of really smart things and he's defensive

with an offensive slant, which I think is exactly what the Leafs are looking for. My question is, unless there's an injury, who do you take out? They put Justin Hall up with Morgan Riley. I don't think they're jacked about taking that guy out. Uh, you have Lilligren and Sandin.

Well, you're not taking Lilligren out and you're not taking Sandin out. It's a good pairing. They had a bit of a speed wobble. they were they were great last night and then you got margier dano who's not coming out of the lineup unless it's to rest him uh and tj brody and tj brody who was out of the lineup to rest yeah to rest or whatever who do you take out man i the logical answer i think is hall but no but is connor timmons better than justin hall and has he earned that trust yet and maybe not i think so

but jesse you say no you you hit on it kind of in the lfr briefly when you do because the reaction should be is like oh no the leafs have an awful problem where they have seven defensemen yeah oh this is awful no this is good and jordy ben was good when he wasn't injured yeah yep dude they had two great games this weekend and the solution to a problem that doesn't exist shouldn't be to scratch a guy who played in both games no this is uh this is a good issue for the leafs they have seven qualified defensemen unfortunately for timmins like he's the odd man out unless there's an injury and the the thing with the least this season there's always an injury to their defenseman he's gonna get in there guys need rest guys get hurt a little and he's gonna get some time but

right now it's sandy and lily geo hall uh riley brody and that's it this is the deepest and most versatile the leafs defense has been in a long time and the reason i say versatile is the amount of different pairings they've had is wild and the amount of them that have actually worked is pretty wild too it's it's interesting the the first three months of the season and i do want to do a bit of a wrap on those first the first half of the season with you guys in a little bit so let's not get too much into that but it's interesting that it's almost played out like the playoffs do like there's injuries you got to play with somebody else a little bit for a few for four or five games and you got to learn yep and they've figured out sorry um what what did

you see over the last by the way i was at the game on saturday night the indigenous uh celebration night was awesome but those jerseys are spectacular so cool you can still get them on the real sports website for auction none of the jerseys are available for less than a grand they're they're sick and the pucks are 250 bucks my bet and i know a lot of people are sort of complaining about this i think you have to like register this stuff with the nhl or whatever before the season starts but to get it done but i imagine that they're playing in those jerseys next year oh like i think at least one game for crying out loud i think i think that this probably happened later than they were you know because there's probably like a deadline where you have to register your

jerseys right i don't think the elites are like ah let's let's not use this i'm i think that it was probably something that came along later and they'll probably have it be a jersey next year and the profit from these auction items by the way go to indigenous charities i don't remember the exact name of it but i saw some people like oh so the leafs just pocket that no apparently no no no well i don't know man look it up come on guys what steve adam you're focusing on the wrong thing they're doing a good thing hooray exactly right so were they they're focusing on the wrong thing and of course steve you were complaining about the price of the jerseys because they're way out of your budget to bid on one but you can yeah but that's fine yeah no it's good thing

because the money's going to charity yeah you can get a name plate from the locker oh those that's new yeah those weren't up they're the uh marley's name plates oh they're marley's yeah so you get like oh they did it as well you get kyle clifford oh you know what yeah i want wool joseph will Undefeated and he made what was it 56 saves yesterday 58 Joseph Wall Toronto Marlies

Indigenous Celebration Game Locker Room Nameplate and Sweater Patch $80 is the current bid Uh oh That's going to make a dumb purchase Uh oh So there's the sweater patch You get right there

And then you also get that That right there I guess that's really good yeah you should get definitely buy that oh it's gonna be a silly goose oh like that very much um like that very very much uh so so i i have to say being there as well on saturday oscar soderblom in person elmer excuse me elmer soderblom in person just to give you an idea the guy's six eight on his feet yeah he is so big out there it's it's like you know when you play NHL and you go up against you know a max height team like all the players are max height and you're like screw these guys I hate them so much when you're playing threes eliminator and

interference is legal oh my god leave me alone threes is awesome he Soderblom is it's it's he's a creative player and when he's out there you can see like I'm I was thinking there I was like watching him and i'm thinking about tage thompson and i'm thinking is the nhl going to swing back tall again because it went small for the last five six years i called this years ago i called this years ago because the market inefficiency okay it was all big slow guys that's right the market inefficiency was little fast guys and the big guys are going to find their way out of the leap so what did the big guys learn to do they got fast skates they figured out how to skate they got ridiculous hands uh-oh yeah oh everybody yeah i do think you might be fucked uh the leafs

also last night got a little bit of depth scoring too like zach aston reese getting his fourth goal um how important is that going to be in the back half of the year do you think they need it the they need it bad it's something that they they struggled with he now has more goals than names pointed out like that i like that a lot um and that third line really do struggle to put it in the back of the net but i feel like they do such an effective job like kerfoot's really found his niche uh engvall and camp make beautiful music together love camp as a player everyone keeps talking about the bunting extension extend that guy kyle eight years right now do it um And Aston Reese and Holmberg have formed this great duo that you can put anyone with them.

Holmberg's a really interesting one because, you know, he's a late round pick. Overage pick too. Yeah, it wasn't like, who was talking about Holmberg before this? Unless you were like a hardcore Marlies follower. No one was talking about this guy. And he's come in and he's like, that's my spot now. That's my spot. And remember when the Leafs were not playing well earlier in the season, it's in part because

they had their three centers and then they could not figure out who the other guy was right and camp was playing fourth line camp yeah quote unquote fourth line but uh looking at the team engvall was there kerfoot was there uh yarn croak they tried at center um and i want to say some guys who aren't even on the team anymore you know think of all the guys who went through the bottom six remember when nicolo beku bell was on the team yeah you know uh they they could not figure it out holmberg went in and he stabilized everything up front and then they kind of went on a run matthews nylander marner bah it's holmberg who stirs the drink and uh cali yarn croak has done an admirable job basically doing anything this year but but on that second line it's cool to

see marner and tavaris together because they played so well together the first year that they were in Toronto together but Tavares I mean I think he had three goals this weekend um one last night and two against Detroit Marner with another three assists last night but I want to talk before we get to them I want to talk about Yarncroke and what he brings to that line because that's never that's always been the question it was you know Hyman and Matthews and then either Nylander or Marner on the top line right that was always a yep but what they haven't been able to figure out is that second left winger yet it was did we do is it Kapanen is it Johnson is it all the guys that are brown brown like all the people that were cycled through there

is yarn croak the guy or are they still looking at the deadline i think you still got a yeah that's still a spot you can upgrade like even the jvr hype kind of died down a little bit like jvr would still be a lot of fun there he'd be great on the power play yeah wonderful for vibes right wonderful but like even last night when later in the game they had holmberg with simmons and bunting i'm like oh that's a little fun that's pushing bunting down is fun but when he's on he's you know that that line is unreal it's weird they didn't have the best game last night um still won by four goals um if you can get a guy to push one of bunting or yarn croak probably yarn croak down i mean then you get yarn croak in the position that you got him for i don't the

Leafs tried so many different things before Yarncroak at that 2LW spot that I'm willing to bet they were caught off guard by how well this has worked out. So I think that's still the position they improve at. I have no idea where they put them, though.

Yeah. It's just, yeah. Why break up that third line? You can get greedy here because your defense is working out so well. Like, defense has been the thing that all season and all offseason, like, oh, you need to go get a defenseman

and you improve defense. Defense is fine. Let's not go mess with this. we already have eight defensemen who are decent let's go get a forward and get greedy about just having a scorer on that second line and i had a tweet prepared and i clicked off oh great the other thing the other thing that jesse to do your point is uh the leafs goaltending uh itself as well which has been unbelievable this year too and it's sort of like sam sonoff is still at a 9-16 despite a couple of bad games i mean followed by a good one followed by a good one

matt murray at a 9-16 as well if he had a he had a surprisingly good game and i say surprisingly because he shouldn't have had to have as good of a game as he did against philly against philly and you look at the three goals the leafs allowed this weekend uh luke wallman a defenseman coming out of the box gets a breakaway that was the only goal he scored on sims on off marner who's the best defensive forward on the team uh with a breakaway or with a breakaway sorry with a giveaway straight to travis connect me that's very uncharacteristic it's rare it's not the sort of thing worth flagging but you're hanging your goalie out to dry and then you get a nasty like toe drag forehand backhand from nick delorier you know what i mean yeah uh three goals that

you can count on not being available to your opponent most nights that's good that's really good i'm like after a couple weeks that made me really nervous that was a nice little weekend keep it up i i yeah and i do want to talk about those i think with all that said like friedman has kind of said and i think cj's talked about this a little bit it's sort of like what are the leafs going to do well they're going to make a move one move because that's all they have the capital for or believe all they believe that they have the capital for and really when you look at the defense and you look at the goaltending you don't really have the need there um so i'm so excited to listen to cj show today yes that's called a plug because he wanted to talk about

the leafs today and oh you saw the group chat message i saw the group chat message he didn't say what though and i love when he does that like tell andrade to post that thing as fast as possible nick get it up because literally all he does is he goes talking about this and he leaves it as a nice little juicy teaser so yes i could talk about this out i don't want to hear what cj has to say This next, like, month and a half, I mean, this is the CJ show's extended Super Bowl. Absolutely. Right? Leading up to the trade deadline, the dude never leaves his phone.

He just glues it to his hand. Oh, I want that. I like that. Now, with regards to the stars on this team, Tavares, three-goal weekend. Marner had a three-assist night last night. matthews has got his next 20 goal season locked up he's the third american player ever to start his career with this many 20 goal seasons in a row and through all the injuries and stoppages and yeah everything it's amazing um and neil andrew playing neil andrew and and uh matthews playing

great together they they have a great sort of it's less explosive than martyr matthews but there's something about them about watching them that they i they it's it is it is like when you watch when you watch uh marner and matthews play on the same line together there's like a it's less chaotic yeah is that what you'd say i think it's less uh marner matthews was completely unpredictable right okay yeah i feel like there's a little bit more structure to tavaris marner yard growth okay i like that i like that so my question to you is um right now right now who of them is the best player on the toronto maple leaves who's playing the best and i want this for both of you because they've all had their sort of moments who's the best of the four

right now i absolutely hate the discourse around austin matthews like he's having a bad season i hate it i hate it so much because the games are readily available in so many different places and you can watch them and he looks great like even last night which wasn't the best game like you know some players can talk about how they're getting tough assignments and how they're not cheating the game that's matthews that's matthews and he's getting his power play cookies and listen he is a little snake bitten and he is having a more difficult time uh getting into scoring position but the attention to detail he's paying on defense this year is next level so because he's the number one center and doing that i'm tempted to say him oh marner with

that 23 game point streak top power play top penalty kill not the best leaf this year he certainly deserves the all-star nod what's what's the specific question is it best leaf right now is it best best leaf for the entire season what are we what are we judging on let's say let's how about we do both best leaf right now over the last two weeks best leaf this season and then that'll dovetail nicely into our our our you know first half sort of discussion last two weeks i don't know if this will catch you by surprise but last 13 games for the toronto maple leaf william neilander has 17 points austin matthews has 16 points mitch marner has 16 points uh that's william neilander leading the way so you're saying willie i think he's figured

something out this season like he looks he looks a little more special out there i love i love when he gets to the front of that they were talking about it i think it was the broadcast last night on saturday where he gets the front of that and he's not he's not doing the michael bunting thing in the front of that he's he's dancing around he's moving and then he gets the he gets the rebound he's always in position and i think his shot looks a little more deadly william neal has been great but like this season mitch marner's been at a whole other level with his game it's hard for me not to say that mitch marner hasn't been the best leaf so far to see after his after the entire team's slow start since then mitch marner for me has easily been the best leaf you

know like you think of all the guys who have been like locks for the selkie conversation over the last like generation taves and kessler and bergeron and all them kopitar i don't remember any of their teams being like ah you're as good as a defenseman like the leaves like forget in the preseason where they were forced into a situation where they're like ah okay we need to throw out forwards in a preseason game as defenseman no the reason they did the five forward power play wasn't to get their five best players out there they're like ah mitch is as good that's fine so and now they're just doing it i saw them do it on saturday they abandoned it last night because they got riley back in there trying to get them going they don't need it yeah

and it's a little it got exposed the other night when mitch they got allowed that shorthand a goal yes mitch was going forward because he's not a defenseman and he wasn't skating backwards on the play and he couldn't be in position so in those situations like let's just let's okay we have morgan riley throw him in there we don't need to force it here and and sandin and timmons who put up a lot of power play cookies and giordano and like you don't need it you don't need it but to mitch's credit they can do it because that guy is so talented at the other end of the rink and he's been the most versatile the best leaf so far at risk of sounding toronto centric because you know we would never want why not on this show i know that wingers like

gary letnan was like the last winger to win a selkie hosa never got one hosa never it was ridiculous but you have to think marner's in the top three this year right kills penalties scores like crazy quarterbacks power plays like defensive quarterbacks power plays right um and and really like even when riley's on that power plate mitch is the guy quarterbacking he has been top 15 and i think even once top 10 in selkie yeah uh because you got to earn it with the selkie right because the selkie is less obvious it's easy to it's easier to vote on a heart if you're an out of town because it's the writers that that vote on it on the south 14 is highest really yeah like it's easy for 10 10 in uh canadian division yeah it's harder it's harder

like to watch all 32 teams and go who's a good defensive forward right so so you have to earn the selkie the selkie takes years to earn you to develop that reputation and i'm just wondering if he's in that conversation because because really what takes him out of it what about mitch marner's game would take him out of the conversation of being one of the top three all-around slash defensive players in the league giveaways like last night's okay oh that was a bad giveaway that It was really terrible. He didn't see him. Who was the one who just caught the puck on his stick?

Connect me. Connect me. It was so bad that I shouted out. You know what I shouted at the TV when he did it? Oh, Tim! I thought it was Lilligren. And then I see it's Marner. I'm like, what were you even doing there?

What were you doing there? Why are you playing the puck from the goalie? You're the right winger. What are you doing at left D? It was a lot. Stop that. it was bad the the producers in the truck like i i credit to them i guess when you show the guy who does the awful turnover on the bench just looking sad oh it's always a heartbreaking

camera angle but i guess they gotta do it uh here this one's fun marner was 16th in uh selkie voting last year more notably he was second on the leafs in selkie voting matthews was 10th there you go because he plays center and had 60 goals yeah and i mean was legitimately a good he worked on that part of his game yeah he's and what's funny is he's gonna get way fewer this year because he doesn't have the same goal scoring i think he's a better defensive player i don't know what the numbers say i'd like to see that um but the effort is clearly there he's involved in it seems like he's involved in more puck battles it seems like he's winning them more okay now connor brown by the way won first place selkie no no one second place selkie

when we vote last year or what year is this uh yeah 2020 2021 so two years ago connor brown when he played for ottawa got a second place selkie trophy vote well that would be an ottawa writer uh we can find who did that i think i don't we don't need to do that oh yeah we do no i don't know yeah you're right all right i got some uh yeah that's rough okay right winger ottawa senator definitely for sure man all right all right all right if you had to bet today you're at sports interaction you downloaded the app oh i got my your toonie steve i got my toonie and your your 40 billion dollar jesse because that's your limit right jesse 40 billion no limit drake jesse because you've seen drake when he's dropping like he's dropping like million dollar bets all

the time it's crazy so he's not betting yeah well responsibly proportional to his wealth maybe drake's also not betting that money no he's not he's not he has a deal with that yeah yeah that's true that's true he does but uh with sports interaction okay how do i get that you were to pick the stanley cup winner right now oh pick it right now and i'll give you the odds but you gotta tell me a team tell me a team first and i'll tell you you're right this is easy yeah i don't think you overthink it i think you picked the team that hasn't lost boston yeah lena solmark with 22 one and two is his record and he's got like a 160 something save percentage goofy goofy stupid you would get still six times your money what if they went toony they haven't lost you toony uh the

avalanche 12 bucks i'm gonna get you a toony yeah with your face on it yeah like a giant one so you throw down every time oh i love that it's like steve who you dropping the tuning on well oh sorry we'll forget um colorado is second and the odds they'll do eight times your money vegas yeah i know i know that's what i found found so surprising out of the playoffs vegas at eight and eight seven five times your money and then toronto at 918 carolina at 942 and dallas at 14 oh that's a good value pick now dallas i want to ask you this one because i think this is the most interesting one of the list so i'm jumping to it next it's not next on the list but i'm doing it who do you give the jack adams trophy to now halfway through the season the guy who

might set the all-time wins record yeah like again uh i don't think you overthink it man uh jim montgomery with the bruins yeah rick bonus is in the conversation i think he should be fucking somewhere in the conversation for god's what about new jersey devil's head coach lindy fire lindy rough stock dropping well there he's you know what i get an arm he's second he's second in the in the odds right now tied with rick bonus both of them are nine and a half times your money jim montgomery 3.86 not bad like to me jim montgomery is a lock so it's like you lock that bet in right now everything if you have an option to bet on boston i suggest you do it okay i'm gonna do it right now there you go are you okay now playing

next game oh you mean for the cup yeah yeah for uh oh you're all these so two more boo not the cup for the the um jack adam jack adam two more going into the second half of the year okay and remember keep in mind the second half could be completely different just for the fact that certain teams are going to go fuck it conor badart right they're going to trade everything that doesn't move which means it'll be like um uh power rangers when like megazord puts himself together and like adds a whole bunch of extra shit you know um the good teams will get a lot better the bad teams will get a lot worse eastern conference outright i think you bet on the bruins which is still four times your money but carolina's five and toronto six carolina's a real

good team they got max ready back and he scored twice he's amazing amazing player how do you just and he's pissed too i know he's pissed they had a fourth line uh i forget who the right winger was but patches was on the left with uh cockney emmy in the middle yeah former habs line love that dangerous uh second so it's interesting where do the colorado bench sit right now in the standings guys like in the whole league they're one spot they're ninth in the conference nights in the west so they're one spot out of that second wild so i think you'll find this funny sports interaction has them as the lock to win what the western conference outright four times your money if you get it so i am so if you're not betting colorado who are you betting well i'm taking my

toonie and bringing it elsewhere um i i do like dallas and i do like vegas so dallas is eight times your money vegas is four and a half times oh i throw that toonie on dallas then do you yeah i want to trust logan thompson oh it's not him you know it's not great it's just that you it's like ottinger is like the first time when he was good you're like is it for real or is it a flash in the pan two is this brother is it peter ring two really good teams who are such wild cards because they seem to face so many injuries like vegas and dallas like they when they face injuries like no one's ever out for a game no one's ever like oh yeah i'm having a rest day it's like no i'm out 14 months my pick would be vegas vegas finals out of the west okay okay no no that's

That's just to win the West. Oh, to win the West. Yeah, yeah. No, I'd pick Vegas, though. Pick Vegas. Now, I want to ask you guys this. Over the last 41 games, we're going to play the word association game. Okay?

What words would you associate with the Toronto Maple Leafs season thus far? What words come to mind? Injuries. Injuries. What else we got? Perseverance. Okay. Streak.

Okay. Mitch. Streak. Okay. structure what's the structure thing that where they they're boa constrictors and they don't blow leads like they used to they they wrap you up okay they give you a big hug that you're not necessarily asking yeah and it kills you and then they eat you alive they digest you over several months yeah get real specific with it and then they shed their skin it's crazy yeah uh okay all

right all right what else we got just give me two more give me two more guys um what you got steve you guys are looking at you're trapping me i'm not trapping i don't know what i'm not trapping you i don't know what this game means no i'm all i'm literally just saying give me some words for the first 41 is top five that's one word top five top five because they've been top five almost the entire time. Tampa. Fuck. Which I believe they're at about 60% chance

they'll play Tampa. They're going to play each other. I'm miserable. It's stupid. So you're building your team for Tampa. Yeah. Which is interesting because Dubas has to then approach the trade deadline like whatever Tampa's after, I have to try to bottom out that market as well. Because you saw what happened last year with Hagel who was supposed to be a Leaf.

Then the deal fell apart and he was a Lightning. Now he's a Lightning player. Right? right so that's going to be fascinating that will be a fact it's like not is not only is he just trading for his team but he's kind of got to fuck with Tampa he's got to fuck with Breezewald

right he's got to mess with his game a little what where's your damn extension MLSC what are you doing oh I think if you're if you're him wouldn't you say yeah we'll just wait till the end of the year you didn't want to sign me this summer

we'll talk after the draft sign the deal i kyle dubas i you know what i i couldn't have imagined a situation where uh like after losing the tampa i couldn't have imagined a situation where you extend dubas before knowing how the playoffs go sign him before the trade deadline it's acid i not to yep but what if he just won't because you blew that well if he just won't then I don't know if he will or not You're planning the Leafs are Heavily counting on Austin Matthews Signing a contract extension on July 1st

And your GM Needs one of his own It's not the greatest position Yeah before the trade deadline Would be nice so he just doesn't go Like full Alex Anthopolis and trade The entire future to win one round or anything Stupid here's good news whatever

Amount of money he asked for Here you go I have a question for You and this is a headline that we missed uh a couple headlines that were really kind of broke over the over the break and they were not really headlines so much as they were storylines narratives things that people were talking about on twitter number one is the leafs goaltending all of a sudden bad yes or no uh by the numbers yeah it was i think i have the exact numbers like what i didn't like uh you know people were oh you know you can have a bad game or whatever like sometimes goals just go in that's that's regression you know

what i mean you're not going to be a 940 all season when you're a 940 it's not just because you're playing well it's because the puck happens to hit you no one go look how many goalies have have played over 20 games and been a 940 goaltender over the last quarter century i'm pretty sure the list is zero it's less than five for sure so if you're if you're a 940 goalie it's because the it's you're playing well and the puck happens to hit you but some of the goals that murray and simsonov have been allowing lately are because they don't look like they particularly know what they're doing and which is weird because they hadn't really played like that then it it's one thing if it's one game another if it's two and it's another if it appears to

be the trend right that's what that's what i was saying going into saturday's game is this Is it now a trend or is this just a blip? So Samsonov, shut that down. Solid. You know, the narrative is easy when he gets a shutout. I actually kind of think it's almost better when you allow not just a goal, but the first goal of the game, which he did. And then you just lock it down the whole rest of the way. Matt Murray, again, battled, scraped together a really good game.

Yes, it's against the Flyers. Samsonov's last six games, which includes a shutout. he is an 890 matt murray's last seven games is an 886 it's a regression yeah it's a regression coming back to probably where they should have been you know and you don't have a tremendous amount of time to figure this out so let's say the next or let's say this week looks a lot like the ones previous to this weekend you have a very finite amount of time to be like all right let's get joseph wall up uh-huh see how he does uh-huh and you got to you got to evaluate your golden you have two uh it for a while for the last few weeks it looked like they had zero

i don't know about that i think you have two guys that you're trying to evaluate don't you leave wall where he is in his house yeah why are you bringing a third goaltender into this it's and it is i guess is not ahead of wall anymore no he hasn't been very good right he hasn't been very good i don't think you're bringing a third goaltender into the mix until there's an injury well because if you then get to the trade deadline and they are still in their rut and this is just what they are they're sub 900 goaltending which is what they've been recently you have to go out and get a goalie that's the only reason i was saying call up wool i'm not saying do it right now but if you're going to spend the assets on goaltending when you

for the last few months have wanted to spend those assets elsewhere you got to see what you got if you don't need to go out and get anything because wool's ready and awesome you need to know the yes or no there and here's a great thing with joseph wool he signed to less than 800 grand this year and next year and the era waivers who's gonna hit waivers no joseph wall can you clear up and down yeah he's good okay yeah he'll be okay i guess you give him a shot it's just it's so weird to me like i could see it happening for sure if he remains this hot like as a head coach i got two goalies here i got two nhl starting goalies they're they're not young guys here and i'm gonna healthy scratch one and bring up joseph wall that that like that's a weird

that's a weird conversation if they're not performing so i'm gonna have three goalies on my roster and one of them's gonna be the nhl goalie that we signed this off season he's not gonna be playing another thing that needs to be discussed is okay i got this young goalie and Ilya Simsonov, he's an RFA, does he want to re-sign? And if he doesn't, you might have to look at trading that goalie. Dude, there's a lot

of, and listen, if both Murray and Simsonov play great for the next few weeks, the conversation's moot. Right? If they play the way they did in earlier in December and later in November, if they

play that way, spend the farm on timo meyer or go out and get a defenseman whatever you want we don't even talk about the goaltending we haven't talked about the goaltending for you know a while now but if they continue to give you sub 900 you learn from your mistake last year and you go out and you get something is the other headline that was narrative whatever you want to call it is Morgan Riley bad at hockey bad for the organization and should he be shot into a cannon shot out of a cannon and to another team what has the storyline been with the Leafs defense this season uh how they've plugged the gap despite all the injuries despite is the operative word

there because they used a wide variety of guys on defense and it worked your reaction to that was trade morgan riley because it worked you know how did it make you feel like what emotion did it give you surprise surprise you know why happiness you're not supposed to do that it's not it's not supposed to work that way and when guys came into the lineup they were great you know how i reacted to that surprise that's not how it's supposed to go whenever a guy has a long layoff and then returns the lineup and scores that game it's surprising that's not how it's supposed to go hey did you just go back to school after a layoff or uh some of the teachers out there oh there was some moaning in the dangle house i'm sure there was yeah nobody likes going

back after break yeah you went back for the first time in a couple weeks what how you doing today crisp you crisp yet your best right you're not supposed to be so when morgan riley came back and did not look good i wasn't surprised i was concerned over the last few games i think he's gotten it back a little bit i think it was difficult for him to get into his groove because he wasn't in his usual spot on the power play and you know depending on how the special teams go now it's difficult to you know i'm trying to get my feet under me and my feet are on the bench it's not a recipe for success listen uh if you actually think morgan riley is hurting your team you got to explore that trade conversation too but i don't think they think that okay

can joseph wall play in morgan riley's spot absolutely let's do it uh what did you think uh switching gears what did you think of john tortorella's comments after travis connect me was quote-unquote snubbed from the all-star game well so what did he say i can actually say yeah i can send this to you do you want me to send it to you yeah this is from uh sam chikar uh yeah carchiti from uh uh who's been a philadelphia reporter forever and ever amen uh jesse i'm going to send you that on text right now there you go so essentially i think kevin hayes is going to the all-star game which is kind of cool yes and that's amazing given what happened yes you know with the family and that sort of thing it's it's a it's a it's an awesome thing but and top

score yeah and a lot of people thought kenyakni should go too sure and uh i believe if i'm not mistaken i go instead go instead because they're gonna have one represent oh right yeah uh now from what i understand too uh like i know torts doesn't care about anything at all he's always you know mister i don't give a shit but i just thought this was a particularly passionate john tortorella quote i wanted i'm glad we have the video and audio it's always different in print absolutely he does not read well well he doesn't this one wouldn't read or sound well oh interesting Have a listen. Okay.

It's a tough league to win in no matter who you play. So we're certainly not going to go in the back door and say that because it's against weaker opponents. I think our game has grown as a team. John, TK has been arguably your most consistent player all year long. Are you disappointed that he didn't make the All-Star team tonight? Oh, I'm not even worried about that shit. The way they all, the whole game, the whole weekend,

I don't even watch it. I think it's turned into a, well, I'll just leave it at that. I really don't care. Do you think that he's deserving? I really don't care. Talk about all sorts of stuff, okay? It's a... So that's an NHL head coach saying, I don't give a shit about an NHL event.

If I'm Gary, I'm not happy. Gary's not going to be thrilled about that. Torts was the kind, like, listen, Gary's got some say in who's on the air. Torts was on the air last year. gary's got some say in who's coaching who's gming we know this from brian burke's book and he torts yeah is now a coach i mean i think this hurts the nhl way less than saying trevor zieger shouldn't be doing fun things yeah okay you know what i mean yeah like that's the direction that it goes or that the league is going uh you know it's not great that he's like yeah i don't

give a shit about the all-star game i mean in a way it solidifies i mean the brand of one of the bigger personalities in the sport right as oh there's torts being torts i i think the bigger issue here is like him just flippantly blowing off the like this is a layup like just compliment travis connect me it's it's a or kevin hayes or kevin hayes or it's it's a layup and torts is a is an ornery guy and he pushes buttons and all we've heard over his career like i've heard from many people is for how difficult of a coach he is to play for guys like playing for him he sounds to some degree behind the scenes anyway like a player's coach they like playing for him the flyers sound like they hate playing for john torter you think so oh well the the kevin hayes

quote and then uh yandel on the air uh defending hayes i think benching hayes went over like a wet fart and i i understood the intention behind it no one's safe and you watched the flyers last night no one should be safe they suck they're not a good team not a well-constructed team the gm suck but you know he did go out and get this guy who's basically uh over from mitch and murray on a mission of mercy because he's trying to find out who on that team can hang um he benched d'angelo last night too which is one of the guys that they went out and got this summer to try to get better who cares he's shocking like there's another guy you can put up all sorts of points shocking in his own head and you can be sure when a guy does get benched it's because they did

something torts expressly told them not to do right so yeah i guess i am defending him in that regard but at some point torts who is a free man and bless him for living his life as free as possible you do gotta play the game a little bit you do gotta stroke egos a little bit i don't know if kevin hayes gives a shit i don't know if travis connect me gives a shit and if neither of them give a shit then none of this matters but that is what we refer to as a layup like for all the all the shit the media gets uh from players and coaches because the media is out to get you the media gives you so many softballs that's a softball that is an olive branch extended to you john to calm things down to make things easier to put a smile on people's faces put a smile on the

players faces on the on the fans faces and yeah you're right it hasn't been the easiest season but connect me has been great and you know what even despite the fact that things haven't been going well hayes has been great and despite all of this we could have two guys going nope you just say i don't give a shit and walk off and i don't watch and i don't watch thanks grandpa like that's how you come across right and he's not one of the older coaches in the league but that's how you that's how you come across i know he doesn't care what i think but if your players do not like you and do not want to play for you that can have adverse effects on your organization Which is maybe the best thing for the Philadelphia Flyers

Because Conor Bedard Is available in this draft So maybe John Tortorella is stupid like a fox Could be Maybe he's brilliant Let's just destroy people's confidence Dude it's such a layup From an NHL perspective

It's an awful look to have What he is as an employee Talking shit about one of your biggest events of the year Like it's the all-star game in the draft right those are their big two corporate events where you bring all the fans of the city together bring all the stars and here you have a coach just going to be like i don't give a shit i don't really care yeah the austin games are turned into i'm not going to talk about that stop giving him broadcast jobs when he gets canned he doesn't get it yeah i think you get him on though for those

quotes that you talk about memorable shit it does it gets a little grating from time to time Well, you can be honest, but at some point you're a little too honest. Being disagreeable is not a talent. It's not a talent. And this is why for years I have said full disrespect, full disrespect to Skip Bayless. Fuck that guy. Fuck what he does. Fuck his body of work.

Being disagreeable and contradictory. Contrarian. Being a contrarian. It's not a talent. take what people think and say the opposite not a talent i don't think that's what torderell is doing here i think he's being honest about his feelings yeah i think he's being extremely honest at a point where we ask for that yeah so skip bayless does it in a way that i don't think is genuine so fuck that guy uh for a variety of reasons what but when torts just goes uh trevor

zegras uh you know shouldn't be doing fun things because i don't think it's great for the sport or whatever i you shouldn't be able to when john tortorella goes up there and says things or when he gets in front of the mic and says things he shouldn't be saying things that any impressionist could do of him i would have gone up there in a john tortorella suit and you give me the john Tortorella hair and you give me a flyers Jacket and I would have said the same shit But he's that I don't know Star game those are his feelings

Yeah his feelings suck and I don't want to hear him It's okay that he's being Genuine right but with that Comes the reaction and my reaction Is you seem Very gross and unlikable yeah I think When he's bashing Zegers for having fun I think he's being very honest yeah

I don't think he's trying to just take another side I think he's expressing his opinion gross and unlikable opinion but and isn't it funny though that that with what when you when they do interviews and they actually show his softer side he seems like an extremely likable human being yes and this is part of the reason that i'm like being particularly hard on tortorella because he does seem genuinely like a good person right so sorry i probably should have maybe led with that because it sounds like i like listen marshand we've hammered him and i think he's a genuine piece of shit when he hits the ice off the ice great seems like one of the better guys

in the league seriously seems like a great teammate and people love him yeah gosh darn it the bruins make it so hard so easy to like him or so easy to hate him and so easy to like him so hard to hate him so hard to hate him easy to hate him they make the boston bruins are a conundrum we got it we got it and isn't it funny that john totorello is from boston maybe he is just boston incarnate but he seems like such a good guy this is a layup it's a layup john this is an olive branch from those evil media who you've worked for and with and apparently never listened to ever once if he's any conversation if he's on tnt he doesn't say that yes he does oh i think he does he absolutely does don't you know if he's if he's on the broadcast if they

have the rights like if espn has he was on yeah was he on tnt or espn it doesn't matter espn let's say it's espn and they've got the right to that game and the all-star game's coming up in six weeks and torts goes on i don't watch this shit yeah how do you think that goes over and also but there's nothing to it like you can say you can get up there as john totorella and be a caricature of yourself i don't care about that i've been to the all-star game before i don't know if he has i think he had he must have he's been in the in the year in the league for freaking ever um but ah the weekend's a pain in the ass and you gotta find a hotel and and you know i i'm this amazing coach that's why i'm in the all-star game and my reward is i gotta coach more bah humbug i

don't want to do that if he can at least make it funny but this is just him going i don't give a shit yeah i'm literally walking away he doesn't have that skill like uh like when have we ever seen joke like that i guess i guess what i'm trying to kill is the myth that tortorella is a good quote anymore he's not hmm interesting he's not okay what makes a good quote depth anything interesting at all um you know maybe i i we are gonna get comments like well he's making you talk about him like i'm talking and that's true that is that would be true i'm talking about this in depth because i have a podcast and i'm being like a media critic right now but i think most people just heard that quote and they were like oh okay oh i'll be honest like i don't always

love the all-star game i do find it kind of flat oh he's not saying anything that we haven't said before is it the way he said it yes it is okay just dismissive and shitty okay okay okay dismissive and shitty is a very that is an apt description interesting okay you know what i didn't see this conversation going this way sometimes when i bring stuff up and i like throw it to jesse and steve i don't i don't think about where it's gonna go i just know it'll go somewhere i did not see this going this way i did not see your reaction as this way that is a borderline the reporter works for the team level of ease uh travis connect here's some of the things he does great uh kevin hayes what a story the guys love him and you know we haven't always seen eye to eye but this but that

but that no and like listen it's not my job to do this or do that is no but you put this out there maybe kevin hayes hears about it and it makes him feel good maybe it doesn't i don't know maybe it makes the other guys in the team feel good maybe it makes his family feel good because they see it because a lot of family members of a lot of players in this league cannot help but consume the media uh about their uh family member good or bad same thing goes for connecting this is it's pr man like this is people management and for god's sake you've been in this business for so long i would have thought you had some of those skills it's just it just it's a failed opportunity from john toterell there it is and like the the all-star game thing like we all agree that the

all-star game is for the people who are there you know it's never been the greatest event for On screen, on television It's probably not even the greatest event Even when you're there When all the events are happening And they're taking 20 minute breaks In between to set things up But that doesn't mean you can't use that moment

As an opportunity to hype up to your players It's the verbal equivalent of missing an empty net You didn't have to Let's do the press conference You think you know which way it's going to go? Do you? No I'm generally very confused

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Not a fucking Christmas tree. I married him. Get rid of it. I married my co-host. That's why we worked out so long. Maybe. Synonym Synonym? Synonym? Synonym? Synonym?

Yeah, but they spelled it funny. I knew who you were talking about right away. Synonym for wet. uh wants to give us the heads up that the bachelor is coming back in about two weeks oh let's go oh bad bios time baby i was like that okay jesse we'll wait for you to bring those to the show just let me know by batch of bios are my you're bringing them right yeah yeah i can prepare all that okay i'll do that that'll be fun uh this one's from by the way our our social media team tweeted out a thing for questions i'm just reading from the tweets here kevin pope want us uh asked

us as a brit i don't understand why the all-star game is talked about so much why is it sorry about that why is it that makes it so popular across the pond what is it that makes it so popular am i the only person who would scrap it and carry on with the competitive game no i think i i don't think you are torts obviously would um i think it's a good break for uh the players who aren't there which is the majority of the players so they have a breather and they get a mental break and they they go and they go to like hawaii or whatever wherever they want to go for a few days but um uh i understand not getting the all-star game for sure but i think the the reason that we have it is because we don't have like when you look at uefa you look at the like the

major leagues in in in um the major clubs in soccer in europe and i'm using soccer because it's the biggest game uh they all play each other and then there's national team stuff so you see different versions of all-star teams go head to head all the time right you sort of see like you know if team england is well it's the best of england italy portugal they're all the best of those players you see them play together so that's essentially an all-star team right um we don't get that because because gary betman and bill daly are like nah world cup suck who needs the olympics um so the best that we get is a game that means nothing that's kind of a fart and a windstorm but when you're there it's fun the skills comp is more fun than it used to be uh and it's kind

of cool to see players do cool shit like if you could get ronaldo and messy and harry kane and whoever else you want on the field doing crazy shit with a soccer ball with cameras on them would love that i'm sure you'd be into it and i so i think there's locally it's always a big thing the nhl obviously goes out of its way to promote it nationally it's never going to be a great national event i know the nba one is the best all-star game in all of pro sports because celebrities show up because it's it's more pop culture than the game right that's what the nba is though it is pop culture right now the baseball one was was kind of shitty for a few years but now it decides who gets home field advantage in the in the world series so it does matter

there's something that matters there um so they play for something i remember the tie all-star game jesse where they just ran out of pitchers yeah for god's sake they went like they finished it in the 12th they're like we don't know yeah and everybody's like what is this and the next year they changed it yeah pick two fans out of the stands yeah just let them pitch whatever uh have a guy pitch more than one inning yeah pro sports in europe are about competition pro sports in north america are about business and you know you talked about best on best and it's basically all-star teams when it comes to international competition the nhl won't do it because they don't see how they make money off of it right because they've never tried so how could you

make money off of something you've never tried yeah and it's which is weird to say european pro sports is more about competition than business because they make so much more money um but you know the teams with all the money just sort of crush everyone most years because they're not going to do any of this silly bullshit to prop up your pissant team yeah you know the the competition has to do with money it has to do with quality of players it's got to do with with

all these things and the all-star game is about sell sell sell sell the sport right when really they should just be focusing on what we scream about every fucking show making the sport better the all-star game is the least good option of the many options that have been presented and tried and tested and are true in every other sport but it's the one the nhl decides to go with each year it's the easiest for them and when you're there it's a riot it's great for the media the players well the players are always super hung over for it so i'm sure they have a good time and the fans who are there i remember the toronto all-star game

in 2000 it was amazing like people say well the all-star game is fun you know what's fun games games are fun games are fun i've heard that make the games better i've never been in a leaf game and been like i wish this was the all-star game wouldn't it be great to see less leafs and more players from other eastern teams oh fuck you know what would make this better two guys from columbus like yeah stop yeah no yes the all-star game sells the game maybe locally or whatever but dude just make the game better agreed agreed making it what having an awesome all-star game is really going to take you to the next level stop next question make the game better so i got this question a couple weeks ago or adam your internet's not working i know i know we're good

Anyway, you get that fixed. I got this a couple weeks ago and it was before it was after we had already recorded our all trivia episode. So, I didn't get a chance to do it. It was from plain Emma Jane on Twitter. Emma tweeted, I want to play a game where two people

go back and forth naming point per game players and the first one to get one wrong loses. And then Emma tagged me and said, Jesse, make this happen. And I want to make this happen. So, is this all time? no this season how many are there uh i'm giving you the option to name anybody who's point a game

they could have played one game and scored one point that's point a game the book is completely open you're a bum you can man this is supposed to be easing back into the season not thinking you could start with a free square you could go connor and dry side oh you know you guys go back and forth first person to name a player who's not point a game meaning their point total does not equal their games played at least then they lose the game you stink okay let's go stevie who wants to go first go ahead steven dangle connor mcdavid leon dryside oh shit um uh sydney crosby jason robertson um austin matthews mitch marner oh you son of my gun. William Nylander. Eric Carlson.

Oh, I was going to say Eric Carlson. Oh, I don't know. William Nylander, by the way, 45 and 41. You barely stayed alive. Wow. David Postrak. That's a good one. I'm going to say Bradley Martian. Hmm? Let me

check. Because that's interesting. I was actually, that was going to be my next question. Marshy, 32 games played, 37 points. Oh, hey! all right all right steve you're up um who's you're already guys are like five in and i know i'm exhausted i'm exhausted

elias patterson oh picks a cannot leah he's good though i know 37 47 he's good okay i was like he's having a good year good for him all that turmoil um easy william neilander you already did that ah okay you did that did i do that yeah he did that no you did that no i said martyr i said martyr oh you said martin matthews murder okay all right we were just there i just said the 41 45 thing what the fuck are you guys talking about oh man i hate this so much i have to think there's a million players no you're not in it you're not in it when you're in it it's so hard are you doing this no i'm doing okay um i know my next pick and it's a really dumb one okay on say kopitar that's so i don't think you got that

all the players 30 or 43 games played 32 points adam wild is eliminated i want to play this game again sometime we should just we can keep doing it like every couple weeks yeah because it'll update right let's do it that's a good it's a thank you for tweeting that that's a very great game we got a new thing i'm gonna be studying i want to see if i would have been eliminated good my next pick was gonna be josh morrissey why because he's like the second highest scoring defenseman behind carl yeah he's 40 and 46 yeah show your face but like kaprizov oh ovechkin tage thompson he almost has as many goals as games i hate it i hate it so much funny my brain went there's someone on the sabers and my and i go tuck tuck is it tuck i forgot

about tage thompson uh mckinnon he's oh man 38 points in 27 games ranton jack hughes cal connor kucherov mckinnon's a really bad one matthew kachuk i was gonna say mckinnon but he's been injured and i wasn't sure that was point of game i know i know zach hyman i was thinking hyman ah shoot ah john tavares would have been an eliminator he's 41 and 40 oh that's why i didn't say him yeah i was thinking about it but i was like oh great little game we got going for the podcast we'll do that every couple weeks game fuck me just drop that on us don't even tell us when you're gonna do it yeah so you can't like prepare for the standing yeah we should um i should keep track of how far we can get down i think we got what do we get 10 there something

like that we can count it out yeah it wasn't great but we guys should try and beat your record it's so much harder in the moment and we'll keep track so steve's up one nothing okay okay all right uh adam do we have something to announce today we do we do um uh we have a live show in kingston coming up on january 27th jamaica no oh kingston ontario oh um so we're spoiled on our last episode was that bad should i not have you're an idiot yeah i don't know if you want to come see us in kingston uh it's right between toronto and uh uh ottawa and what i thought was cool about it is that this was the show we were supposed to do on april the 4th 2020 um but of course we couldn't do it we promised we'd be back we're going back so friday night

the 27th that's actually the one weekend where there is no saturday night game so steve will actually have uh a saturday night off to himself which would be nice for you um but i'm really looking forward to this and obviously it's friday isn't it it is a friday i know but i'm just saying it's a non leafs weekend and what's great about that weekend is that friday night is we're going to do our show a little bit uh we do like a little show and then we're gonna watch the leafs and sands play because it's leafs and sands on a friday night baby maybe we can watch uh watch hockey night in canada with grav because they we specifically picked that because i'm like oh there's no game on saturday so i'll have the night off and then i got the updated schedule and they're

like oh yeah no we're doing the stream that friday well and i said i'm not going to be there well good old grav's gonna get it and uh so anyway we're really looking forward to that uh and also once again let me say congratulations to s and gun or s uh and lauren gun as we know her uh the show launches today um the objective basketball podcast we're super excited for them so congrats to them yay and by the time you uh by the time you can download this you can probably download that to subscribe on amazon music or spotify or apple music or wherever why did you lead with that you know why do you want to know why i led with that because when i see the sports net commercials that's that that's what they lead with i was like amazon music huh spotify

have a partnership with them do they do we oh we don't we all right let's wrap it up one last question okay let's not wrap it up at only sky above me they write this has been bugging me for years is there beef between the sdp and the arkells no no why why are the arkells taking shots at us we bring up the arkells quite a bit because the arkells are on everything yeah we make snide comments we that bring up some of the arkells bring themselves up all the time what other big canadian function do they play they're on hockinay morton ron mclean absolutely man like but is it the cfl a cfl halftime show it's the arkells oh wait did they do it every grey cup halftime yes they did yeah it's a little bit like you know the south park thing

where uh uh they have slash as santa claus vandersluge yeah that is a really deep reference they don't they're i like i'm convinced there's it's like the stanley cup but there's the original arkells and then they have another arkells that goes and does other things when the original arkells are busy it's like blippy yeah as well how there's a fake blippy and then also mika it's a whole franchise right um no i have zero problem with no they're they're great i met and interviewed them they're wonderful wonderful people oh yeah for the the great cup halftime show we had is it the urkels like you can just guess i uh uh nothing wrong with them nothing wrong with them but we are gonna make those shots for sure like and i'm sure they're they're laughing

about it too and by the way all we're doing is laughing about them being successful yeah yeah So I'm happy for them. LMAO, you do lots of shows. Hey, you're a band that a lot of people like? What a bunch of losers. LMAO. Anyway, we hope that you have a fantastic, fantastic first. We'll be back Wednesday.

Don't forget there's a CJ show. Don't forget there's an Objective Basketball pod. And when you're done listening to both of those, you go on Spotify. You listen to the Arkels. That's right. Whole everything. Leather Jacket. That's the song you want to listen to if you want to get in the Arkels.

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