The Steve Dangle Podcast - Dance Floor | February 5, 2020

Episode Date: February 5, 2020

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Steve was going to drink a Bell Media coffee (00:00), WHO WORE THE CROWN?!? (04:00), the Leafs blow a lead to the Florida Panthers (16:00), does Kyle Dubas need to step up again and make a trade? (41:30), a man from Toronto lied about having coronavirus (1:09:00), Dustin Byfuglien's time in Winnipeg is coming to an end (1:14:00), the Montreal Canadiens have some trade pieces (1:18:00), a shoutout to Ovi (1:27:00), and Steve goes in on the Flames (1:29:30). Originally aired: February 5, 2020 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/2xPZ_--6Ezw Merch: https://teespring.com/en-GB/stores/fancydangleshirts Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Subscribe to us on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/steve-dangle-podcast/id669828195?mt=2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Panago Pizza presents SSDPP, the Steve Dangle Podcast, with your hosts, Steve Dangle, Adam Wilde, and Jesse Blake. Let's go! So, you know when your friend bag books you? When they send out a vague status update? It's an old term, because bag booking was a thing to be like, just missing him, stuff like that or like don't you just hate it when people are so fake you know it used to be oh you know you get that all the time status yeah oh it was back in the day i never had icq though

no i had it for like a week but then i got scared and because i used to try i used to try to talk to girls and i was no good at that in grade six and so even with the cute elbow notification yeah no it didn't work out for me that well so um no but i got vague booked by steve in our messages before the show tell me what you think of this so i asked steve i said steve can you grab some coffee on the way over and he's like uh he's like yeah sure and then i guess he went into a tim hortons and he said i noped out of that tim's oh yeah and then i was like i should have expanded on so i was like does that mean i should get a coffee or not get a coffee but the full the full thing that i should have said was i noped out of that store so i'm coming to get a free one

Oh, because we have free coffee here. Which was the explanation, but instead... It's a Bell Media thing, by the way. Yeah, Adam called me to... Okay, free coffee. Rogers has one, too! And Adam called me to be like... Rogers does not have free coffee.

Rogers absolutely has free coffee. At Sportsnet? Sportsnet is different. Sportsnet, uh... Yeah? In the little kitchen there? So you were on the... Yeah, you were on the digital side.

Oh, I'm sorry. Jesse had to take, like, 50 steps to go get free... A variety of free coffee. All I know is... And a faucet. All I know is, wherever you walk around this Bell Media beautiful campus, you will find a little coffee machine with free coffee. All right.

Jesse, how many free coffees did you get at Rogers? Last show, the toilets didn't work. That was the construction of water main people. The toilets didn't work because they blew a hole in one of the water mains when they were digging it up. Have they considered not having one? Maybe you don't have a hole in your water main. It would be super great if they stopped digging up Richmond Street

That would be super Or every part of Toronto ever And you know what they're like Hey you know when we're going to do it In the middle of winter when we can't fix it It's just frozen solid Every Tuesday night when I'm sitting in traffic At 11pm

Oh yeah You're in traffic on the way home Yeah and no not in downtown Toronto I'm in like Whitby And I'm like you piece of shit Would it be easier for you to drive up to the 407? Yes. No, I get off in Ajax now, and I just go around it.

It's frigging the worst. Yeah, so sorry to vague book you. What I should have said was, I'm going to get free coffee instead, but what ended up happening was Adam called to ask what I meant, and then he ended up getting us all coffee. It was great. Thanks, man. So Steve was going to have a Bell Media coffee.

Uh-huh. Did you surf the ice last night? I did. There were so many games. There were a lot of games. There's like nothing on Monday and then last night There was like, but here's 40 games. Yeah, here's 19th and they all started seven Except for like two. Yeah, exactly. Oh my god, it was wild I guess a bunch of teams coming off their breaks and stuff too. I guess so. So many So listen, we're gonna get into who wore the crown from the

The time when the Leafs blew a 3-1 lead. I forgot to prepare my crown Ah, who will you give it to, Jesse? You gotta give me a delay a little You've got time. We've got time because not only do we have this long intro to get through, which is, you know, talking about our town and our crown. Yeah. Talking about. I've never heard this before.

It's about living generously and life treating you royally. All of those things. And then Steve and I are going to give our crowns. And then Jesse, you may give your crown after that. Okay. I got some time. You had some time. I got to remember the game.

So listen. Listen. Steve, if this were Dan Carlin from Hardcore History. Yeah, it's been a while since I've listened to him. So if Dan Carlin was going to say, live generously and life will treat you royally. Live generously. Life will treat you royally. That's great.

Why not put yourself on the crown royal? Because we're going to get into Who Wore the Crown, where we, with the help of you fans out there, recognize one Leaf player each show who gives it all for the blue and white. Because it's our town, it's our crown. It's not about what you have, but what you have to give. Let's crown a leaf that lives generously by giving it all for their team. Brought to you by your friends at Crown Royal. Live generously and life will treat you royally.

Let's get into it. And Steve. Yeah. Today's challenge is that you give us the crown, but in the guy that narrates the Harry Potter books voice. Oh, I don't do a good Jim Dale. You don't do a good Jim Dale? No, I should be able to do a good Jim Dale. You need to work on that.

I know. I'm good at impressions, but only like vague ones. Like, do you want one of my college professors? I can do it. No, I will say, listen, it's often difficult to give up the crown, because there are so many good players, particularly forwards. There's Austin Matthews. They lost.

Scored again. There's Mitch Marner. Wheeling and dealing. Magic man. Throwing it around. William Nylander. Scored again. There's a possible candidate for you.

Just trying to help you along. All right. Uh, John Tavares, he scored a goal, it was a hilarious muffin, I laughed. But the best forward in that game, because I thought the best forward the last game was Jason Spezza, there's lots of candidates every night, the best forward on the ice, Mark Pisek, gets my crown. Wow, you're gonna give it to him. He gave his first career hat trick as a forward, and it was against the Leafs, because of course

it was! Mark Pissick gets the crown because I am struggling to... I can absolutely do that. I am struggling to think of a leaf I should give it to because they blew that lead. But it's fine. Losing's good. I learned that. Isn't it nice when people teach you things because you're stupid?

Isn't it nice? Okay, we're going to get into that in just a second. I feel like you're talking about something else when we're on a different thing. Let's get into my crown before you get yourself into trouble, sir. Now, I'm going with Austin Matthews. Oh, good. Because Austin Matthews has been great. He's been absolutely phenomenal.

He was great in this game, and it's a shame. It's a shame that that performance is lost in that. I think a month ago I said something along the lines of, listen, or it might have been last week, who knows, but I said something along the lines of when they're bad, they're really bad, and they can't be that bad. And Austin, in a bad game, was the best player on the ice to me. And that is what we need.

One of his strongest two-way performances of his career. Yeah. And if we're going to lose, and it's going to be heartbreaking, if your best players were still your best players, and I'm talking Matthews, Nylander, I would put Kasperi Kapanen in there. He had a good game. Marner, not bad. Not bad except for giving away the empty netter.

Yeah. I mean, really. But the Leafs best players were their best players And that is where you need to be Win or lose Your stars need to show up Austin showed up You get my crown

Jesse Blake have you had enough time sir 25 goals Is a number of goals That's how many goals Mark Pissick had Against Strongman Actually fewer than he has goals in his career And the Leafs allowed a hat trick against him In his unnatural position

I think he was a career high because he had that hat-trick? Oh, yeah. I think his career high was five. Now he has six. Oh, yeah. I'm pretty sure. Just good shit.

Well, he knows Michael Hutchinson, right? He was a Florida Panther. You're absolutely right. And I'm sure they had a lot of healthy scratch practices together. And so he knows all his tendencies. Mark Pissett. What? What?

Adam, you open your phone, you type your code in, you go onto Google Maps, and you find me the lie. Yes, Jesse? Mark Pissek, his previous career high was four goals in 2016-2017 with the Panthers. And now, this season, he has seven goals. He's scoring a hat-trick. He scored one less goal than his previous career high in one game. In one night as a forward.

But losing is good. It was a good loss. Some people were upset with William Nylander post-game. Why? Because he had a calm post-game interview where he wasn't as upset as people would have liked him to be. A man who hosts a TV and radio show with the initials SS went off on him and is going viral on YouTube. Sally Struthers. No, a different one.

It's on another network that we shall not name because it is inferior to about media property. Yeah, I don't believe I've heard of that. SS? Super Saiyan. Super Saiyan. Oh. Yes, he went, he went, he went, for five episodes later, he was still going, he went full okay boomer on William Nylander, and I, I just, William Nylander had a really good game, it's

just, it's a little lazy, to just beat a guy down for his post-game comments, where he's clearly not happy about winning, but he's not blowing up and throwing garbage cans, It's her about losing. He's not having about losing. Sorry, about losing. No, he hates winning. That's William Nylander's problem. That's why we need to trade him for Zach Kassian.

That guy likes to win. Mike Augello, by the way, Mike in Buffalo, gave Willie the extraordinarily unfortunate nickname of 90-second Willie because none of his postgames last for more than 90 seconds. The guy has never said an interesting thing in a postgame ever in his life. I don't know why you expected that to be the night. So I need to take this crown out of the crown case that we keep, our three crowns, place it onto the head of William Nylander for always being the brunt of the garbage from the media, even when the game has really nothing to do with his play, and he had a great game, and he just had a mediocre post-game interview. Now, as we record this show, I've already been up ten hours, so I don't, my brain's not functioning properly anymore.

I still am trying to figure out who SS is. I have no idea. Jesse, I had a full night's sleep, and I think I know who it is at best. So yesterday, Tim and Sid, Sidney Sixera. Oh, get out. So Adam couldn't guess, and I guessed wrong. Who did you guess? Steve Simmons.

But then I was trying to think of where he would have been on TV. He doesn't own a TV and radio show. I don't know. Come on, guys. Tim and Sid don't own Tim and Sid. Do they? No, I meant like he doesn't host a TV and radio show. Anyways.

Yeah, there's... Sid just likes to do that to Bug Lee fans. I know how to bug me! He won. Yeah, Sid lives to bug Leaf fans, even though Sid is low-key a Leaf fan. He just doesn't tell anyone that. I'll be walking around and he'll bug me. He can't.

Well, that's his job. His job is to piss you off. And he's really good at it. You want to tell me the Marley story? No. Someone just called me over and said, Here, here, Sid, tell Steve, tell Steve. And I go, what?

What's up, man? Good to see you. The Calder Cup means nothing. Guy was in the room for this. And I go, what? The call to cup means nothing. Means nothing. It doesn't mean you're going to win a Stanley Cup.

It doesn't mean anything. It doesn't even mean you have a good organization. Something like that. Wow. And I was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait. Whoa, whoa. And then he draws you into these.

He's very good. And I gotta say, he won that argument. He did. You had no comeback. Steve was just like, ha, la, la, la, la, la, la. That's literally how it went. Martin Marincin is good. and it was like like two nights after we had spent the night partying that we won the car

called the car listen that was a freaking great night okay and then great night his his rant for the rest of that week was how it didn't matter means nothing and garrett i just needed a chance sparks deserve the crown that night he was phenomenal phenomenal it didn't mean anything It meant something to me So he can stick it It meant something to me And it meant something to the guys that were there And Andreas Janssen was like the playoff MVP anyway

He was amazing That's Who Wore the Crown for this week Brought to you as always by Crown Royal Next time the puck drops, why not? The call to come means nothing Live generously and cheer Leave screwed or Crown Royal old passion You do a good sit

And you've hosted with him before But what's interesting is when you hosted with him He didn't do any of that to you No, because he should have got him going He had to hold my hand because it was American Thanksgiving and it was all football Yeah, they put you on the wrong day Yeah, you were talking about like the Cowboys But there was a trade between the Sens and Oilers during the show, luckily

Who was traded? Great question Don't remember Can't imagine it was very high talent Sid won because here we are upset Yep Still I think about that every night Sid Sixero

Why did he go after Nylander though? That's just an odd choice It's, uh, I watched it. Because, like, Nylander objectively played a great game. Yeah, they were upset at his post-game comments. They were upset that he wasn't upset. He doesn't get upset. So he's there sitting in his dressing room.

Is Sid just upset he's not also Portuguese? Is that what it is? You know what? I'm just going to send him a video. I'm just going to, like, there's a Nando's in Oshawa. I'm just going to, like, go up to it and, like, give a thumbs down and send him a video. Oh, you know what? Fuck no.

You know what you need to do? Can you imagine? What you need to do is take a whole thing of chicken fingers and just waste them. Oh. Just throw them on the ground. Dump them in the garbage. Send them to video. Yeah, feed them to the dogs.

It's what William Nylander thinks of you and then just throws his chicken fingers. Hates your stupid chicken fingers. Listen, Sid Sixero is one of the nicest people I've ever met in this industry. One of the nicest. No, him and Tim are just like high class quality individuals who know how to do a kick ass show. And what makes me laugh is the guys on Twitter Who take themselves too seriously Retweeting and commenting

Every take that those guys have Oh it's a rage harvest It's a rage harvest that's perfect Sid is just like He's so good at it And if you want to know Everybody's like yeah I don't even watch that show Why are you retweeting them and then

Responding to it then I don't even watch that show It's the only good sports show In Canada nationally Not when Leafs Lunch is on TV Well, you're right And also when Overdrive is simulcast Is it?

It is now It's funny There's one TV show Also, have you heard of Jandam? There's one TV show that's on the radio And one radio show that's on the TV It's interesting Because Tim and Sid was a radio show

But it's now the Tim and Sid TV show No, it was a podcast that was a radio show That was a TV show It's a TV radio show Yeah, but it's a TV show on the radio And what TSN's done is they've taken a radio show and put it on the TV. It's very interesting. Very interesting.

And you're listening to a podcast on the podcast. On the YouTube. Or potentially on the SoundCloud. Now, I want to get into something here. Uh-huh. Just answer these questions. One word answers, please. Do they pertain to Cody Cece?

They do not. Ah. Guys, is it exciting when your favorite... These are yes or no. Okay. Is it exciting when your favorite team goes up 3-1 on an opponent that they are in a playoff race with? Is it exciting? This, how am I really, I need some time.

No, yes or no? In a vacuum. I don't know. If you're not a Leafs fan here, you're just a sports fan, I hate you guys so much. You tried to make this. I hate you so much. You tried to make this so easy. All I want to do is do a show.

Yes, question mark? Depends. Were the goals on the power play? Or My answer is It depends Okay That's two words

It is like adult diapers Oh my god I hate you guys so much It depends I hate you I hate you I hate you So I said yes

And Jesse said depends So normally What normal people would say Not Leaf fans Which is understandable What normal people would say Is no If you were a Boston sports fan

And your favorite team Goes up three to one On somebody Sox Bruins Pats Three touchdowns to one You're excited

What year is it? Fuck me I don't know Because if it's like 99 and I'm a Red Sox fan Then I'm still nervous Listen, you got You got Nomar Garcia Parra in the system

You're happy, okay? Things are rolling Pre-World Series or Post-World Series? If it's Post-World Series then I'm like Yeah, but Pre-World Series I'm like Man, I just Guys, do you get it? Do you get it? Do you understand? You get it, right? There's a lot of variables here

You get how frustrating this can be I'm just checking, I know you get me Next question. We're hitting these out of the park here, Steve. Let's go. How's it going? Hey. This reminds me of the quiz.

You know, part of me has always wondered, will our show follow the same trajectory as Tim and Sid and also become a show one day on the radio or television if we continue to do well? And the answer is no, because it's segments like this. One word. Yes, that's right. I answered my own question properly. All right.

What was the next one? So the next question is, if you're excited when your team goes up three to one, is it therefore somewhat of a letdown slash disappointment when they then go on to lose the game five to three and most of the goals come in the third period? You didn't tell me this was the intermediate class, Adam. Geez. Yes or no? Is it disappointing when your team blows a three to one lead?

I'm going to go with yes on this one. Wow. Okay. Solid answer. I'm going to say yes. Yes, but with nuance? Yes. This is this like a scantron test, and I didn't fully color in the bubble you better

What is it the level for you or whatever to be Seek it is this the standardized test that we all If you don't fill in the bubble you're not gonna get the more you gotta fill it it all the way or the machine And if it's the wrong kind of lead sorry you're dumb Doesn't matter what you got right you're stupid because you didn't use the right pencil Did people have the other Pencils? Yes Yes and like you know what's hilarious

About that and this by the way this is a standardized test In Ontario but everybody has some version of this They said if you don't have the 2B Lead pencil it won't count And literally there was a kid in my Class and this would never fly today Who was like I can't afford that And the teacher's like

Find a way Literally and I was like That's weird Anyway, I'm a teenager. I don't know what to do here. And then they took out the ruler and hit his hand. Anyway, that was just one. I had one bad teacher.

Most teachers are great. But in all honesty here, 5-3, disappointment. Yes. Right? Still going to go with yes, question mark. Why is it that we can't just be disappointed without having to be told how stupid we are for being disappointed that they lost a 3-1 game and that Franny Anderson has a neck injury again and will be out again.

Now, he had a neck injury a couple years ago, if I remember correctly. I think so. He takes a lot of blows to the head. It's not just the fact that they lost. It's the fact that their backup, who'd been playing quite well, came in and did not play well and doesn't seem to play well when he's brought in mid-game but seems to do better when he starts them, so that's good for tonight.

And the second thing is you have a team that didn't rally around him. Yeah, when they're when their goaltender went cave they completely caved and that was a four-point game You win there's a spread you lose there is not no, but they play that game 99 times Or they play the game a hundred times. They win 99. Okay, but they didn't win. Oh But Adam did it did they play it Steve if they in this completely fantastical made-up fairytale scenario they win Wouldn't you prefer the made-up scenario where they made up win? Well, if that were the case, then the Miracle on Ice would never have happened. I don't care if we would...

What's the Herb Brooks speech? If we played them ten times, they might win nine, but not tonight. And that's what the Panthers did to the Leafs. Yep. Like, dude. No, okay. You're a great employee. You do a great job.

Tomorrow, I want you to go 70% of the way to work and see what your boss says. Just like, stop at a Simms, just like, stop there, chill. Boss, I got 70% of the way here and I flew. I flew. I got here so much faster than I usually do. Gives a shit! You want to win the cup or not? Stop talking like a bunch of losers.

They got up 3-1 in the third period. They had a 2-1 lead going into it, then Matthews scored again. godsend, just one of the best goal scorers in the entire league, scores to give you a 3-1 lead, and you just buckle! You buckle in a span of five seconds and I'm tired of moving the goalposts for this team. Hey, when should we have faith in Hutchison? I told you last LFR, now. Because he had four straight good games? The goalposts for this guy! Cody Ceci! I was praising when They gave him the game ball Because he tries real hard

He has no NHL level talent Let's say it That's cruel It is not a kind thing to say What is an impressive thing he does? Cody Ceci had a good game For the first two and a half A two-ish period

What is something he does that's impressive? He is able to Retrieve the puck Well I disagree. I disagree because he's got to identify where it is. And he's usually the last player on the ice to do it. Once he does that, he's able to get rid of it well to his teammates.

He tries hard for sure. Yes. He hustles. Cody Ceci hustles, and he blocks shots. He works hard. These are good things. These are all good things. Mom, picking on him.

Picking on another guy. Travis Dermott is standing next to a pile of money like the friggin' Joker in Dark Knight and lighting it on fire, that first goal, just abandoning his post. We thought Travis Dermott was going to make three and a half million bucks. You are on drugs. No way. You are on drugs. If he makes more than, at this point, if he makes more than, like, he can't make 500 grand

more than Justin Holl. I said it a few shows ago, explain why he should make more. I don't see how he makes, I don't care if he signs a one-year deal. if it's any more than two, two and a half that's too much. The only way to justify it is if you maybe sign him long term and you're like he's going to get better I think he's going to get better. Yeah. Travis Dermott

every game does things where I'm like holy shit not many players can do that like just the way he handles the puck you can criticize a player without saying you hate them. You cannot like this is what bugs me every time we and also the balls

the balls to say We play that game a hundred times. We win 99. This isn't the first time they friggin screwed the pooch This is the Toronto Maple Leafs. How dare you tell me that? The fuck? This happened like two weeks ago. They never blow it? They blow it every time. You liars! What are you talking about? I don't even blame the Leafs for saying it. They got to do their own PR and today You saw him going to bat for Hutch. I get that man. What are you gonna do sandbag your own teammate? If you don't work for them, what brainwashing is going on? They fucked up!

Say it! Do they look like a cup contender to you? And if the answer is yes, you're wrong. There's a lot of people on your side. The reason the other side exists is because there's a lot of people on your side, and then a lot of people come back on the other side and be like, it's too early. There's a lot of contrarianism out there, and it's not, it's not, listen, it's a fact that the Leafs outplayed the Florida Panthers.

Right. It's a fact that they should have won the game. That's what makes it disappointing. Yes. Yes. This wasn't the 2-1 loss to Calgary. This wasn't them getting goalied. No.

Although Bobrovsky was very good. He was very good. And he robbed them a couple times. Reddits robbed them all night long. Like, it was friggin' ridiculous. This was, they friggin' threw the game away. And it was against the Panthers. It was such a big game.

It was a playoff-worthy game. And they ruined it. And now I look at the schedule again and I look at how hard they've got to work to dig themselves out of this. And, of course, the Panthers played the Blue Jackets last night. And, of course, it went to overtime. You're going to if these guys out of a playoff spot if you keep kid-gloving them like this. What do you mean going to? They're sitting out.

They're sitting out. Yeah. You don't even got to do it. They'll do it themselves. You don't got to do anything. It's ridiculous. In what world is it acceptable that the Columbus Blue Jackets have 67 points And the Leafs only have 63

They're like the hottest team in the world since like the beginning of December Man, I'll come out and say it I was not a torts guy I'm absolutely blown away by what he's done with that team this year The Jack Adams is the holy shit where did you come from award And that's He's gonna win it again Yep

He deserves to Yep He deserves to And like And in typical NHL coach fashion He was like objectively 100,000% wrong on Anthony Duclair And he's still like easily the best coach in the NHL this year But you show me a great goalie

I'll show you a great coach And et cetera, et cetera I don't You ever hear about these guys? Before the season? If you're a Blue Jackets fan, shut your mouth Anyone else? You hear?

Yeah? You're a big Elvis guy? You're a big Elvis? And the other one? It's literally Elvis and the other one Because Corpus Allo's out Who the hell's the other one? They have two Latvian goalies

And one of them's not even Chris Lipser It's This team But it's weird though Because At least we're not complaining About the same thing in February

That we were in October At least we're not talking about How weak the right side is And how they don't have a backup goalie Do you know The three teams Who have allowed more goals Than the Leafs in the

Eastern Conference? First of all It's fucked that there's only three teams. It's got to be the Devils. One. Got to be the Sens. Two.

Maybe Detroit. And three. And got to be Detroit. So Detroit, New Jersey, Ottawa, then the Toronto Maple Leafs in terms of goals allowed in the Eastern Conference. See that right there?

That tells you all you need to know. That's a number. That is blatantly unacceptable. And yes, they've had some 8-0 or we were at a 7-4 loss. But that's the point. Those still go into the numbers. That should not happen.

And here's the thing. Like, there are people who are like, listen, you know, So when Hutch, to focus on Michael Hutchinson for a second, who had had a couple good starts leading into this, and I even said the episode before, I'm like, listen, I'm getting my hopes up with this guy. This is great.

It's very clear that Michael Hutchinson cannot come in mid-game. If there's one thing that is clear, if he is not starting, he is not playing. That's what needs to be. Adam, it's one of our oldest bits, but oh, I'm sorry that you had to do your goddamn job. But it is your job. One thing Babs was right about is

That's the gig That's the gig And so And Babs was right about a lot of things But one of those things was What did you fill out on your resume? I come into perfect situations, goalie? You're the backup goalie

Sorry, Adam I guess what I'm trying to say here is It's perfectly reasonable To be upset When the team you were dogging it out with For the final playoff spot Catting it out I get it

beats you at home, and your starting goaltender is now gone for the next week as well. It's okay to be upset about that. And I understand, again, that all the numbers point to, well, at least Kshudra could have won. But the fact is, an L is an L is an L. And you have to examine, and Steve, you nailed this. If you keep kid-gloving this, you're going to kid-glove it right out of the playoffs. The team had one of the worst possible starts it could have had, Fired the head coach

And has been playing At a 112 point clip And that Might not Be enough And what are we gonna do We're gonna If they do make the playoffs

Well they could've We're gonna do the same thing again Oh the Bruins They should've called More penalties Just They Can't do it

They can't do it So what do you need to see tonight Cause this is the thing I understand I understand the other perspective I get the The whole thing about Like well listen

It's not as bad as you're making it seem Yeah but let people be emotional And also it is disappointing And extremely bad So fuck off But for a second What do you need to see tonight? Even if they lose

What do you need to see tonight? Can I put this out there? I don't want to see them lose This is a must win game Great I think it's ridiculous If you go out and lose this game You want to make the playoffs

Beat the fucking Rangers Yeah So there's that The game starts at 7.30 Can you kidnap Key or give? You can try Okay Game starts at 7.30

Ends around 10 Are you sure? Yes You try your Balls off Both of them From the beginning Of the game till the end of it

From the moment the puck Has dropped until there is a winner Declared Is that so much to ask How many games this season have we been Like ah Ah almost every Hutch game ah except for that five minute

Span Sam McKee producer from Sportsnet had a tweet that a lot of people got mad at for some reason for stating a plain fact that Hutchison has allowed three or more goals in eight different periods this season. That is a no chancer, guys. No chancer. There was a game against Washington and they took too many penalties in that game, I can still remember it. Three goals in a period. Boom boom boom. Kasperi Kapanen temporarily lost his mind and threw his stick in the third Whoa, wasn't that against? Oh, it was Montreal. It was Montreal and the Leafs dropped 3-1.

Oh my god. And guess what? Austin Matthews, again, saving the team's ass, scores a goal to make it 5-5, I think, in the final minute of that game. Oh, only the Leafs can turn choking a 4-1 lead into a comeback that they lost in the shootout because the shootout is Price vs. Hutch.

There's no shot. Give your team a shot. You know what, it's insane We're actually having the conversation Of reacquiring Jonathan Bernier And you know why? Bernier goes out there And this season anyway

Because he's been brutal for a couple But this season, he goes out there And he takes the Detroit Holy Godding Red Wings And he gives them a shot The only thing Bernier can't do is go out there And score goals for them, unless you're Pecorino They can't go out and score goals for themselves

No, they're closing in on negative 100 for goal differential. They're a joke. And he goes out there every night and he tries to give them a shot. They're at negative 96, by the way. Unbelievable. That is historical. No one's ever come close. I don't think anyone's ever come close to that.

96? No, the record's like 200-something. Oh, is it? It's like the expansion. Senators or something. I would love to know what the record is over the last quarter century. Yeah, like in the modern-ish era. Like maybe expansion.

I can probably tell you. Or something like that. You got to give your team a shot. You got to give your team a shot. And you know what? In Hutch's defense, if I can, the last couple games he has. Yep. Oh, four straight games.

Four straight games, he was lights out. So, you know, and it's not even all him. So we're getting too... No, we're talking about a team game. Because I don't want to focus too much on Hutch because it's very clear that, First off, Leafs Nation split on him. Second, he's a guy that cannot come in mid-game. So stop doing it.

Well, they had to. Well, yeah, but I mean, like, even when they didn't have to, when there's times where they didn't have to pull Freddie Anderson and did anyway, Hutch came in and was lit up. And I think that we've got to, we've got to get away from that. I think he's got to be a guy that has the day to plan and prep. And goalies are weird. They're different animals.

Let him have the day to prep and plan and whatever until you get a backup. But let me ask you this. Okay, so you need to see tonight. Jesse says that you need to see a win tonight. You need to see what again? A frigging effort. An attention to detail from start to finish. 60 minutes of it.

That's what this team lacks. Yes. Or 65. Teams have lapses. The issue I have with the Leafs is when their lapses are bad, like when their lapses lapse, they're really bad. It's not like the Penguins have lapses. The Capitals have lapses.

Every team. But why is it that the Leafs get scored on every time they have a lapse? That's my question. because they're really bad. They're really, really bad lapses. And we got to stop like, oh, they're giving up scoring chances and this and that. Let's stop talking about scoring chances like they're all equal. You know what I mean? Like I look at that Dermott one and I'm like, I know it's Mark Pesek. He's still in the NHL and there's still no one on him. If you give him free reign at the frigging net, it's a problem for you.

We talked about What Babcock did was so infuriating Where he didn't optimize The Leafs had a weak asset Which is Michael Hutchison Or it's just the backup position in general Don't bother putting a name on it It could be Michael Neuwirth

It could be anybody The fact of the matter is They were always going to spend league minimum On a backup goalie So you've got to optimize that position No you don't what you actually have to do is play them on the second half of a back-to-back every time, no matter what. So Babcock didn't give a shit about all that. All of a sudden,

Keefe is like, you know what? It's not on the second half of a back-to-back, but how about you play Detroit on account of their garbage? How about you play the Sens on account of they're not a very good team this year? Or how about you play the Islanders, who are a good team but have a really hard time scoring he actually started optimizing him a bit first his starts couldn't you know you don't get to control when he comes in as a backup because uh freddie got hurt and all that maybe we need to start optimizing who's the most important person for leaf's playoff success freddie anderson you said it without hesitation and you're correct we know the leaf score shitload of goals we know their defense is spotty at best even when it's

fully healthy when are they going to protect this asset anderson is clearly not at 100 and hasn't been for a while when he's at 100 he stops all the bucks all the bucks he's great uh we got a league minimum backup in there and it sounds like we're going to have that for the foreseeable future no matter what their name is. When are we going to protect that asset? When are we going to protect our starting goaltender, who is the most important person to this team, and when are we going to protect the backup goalie position with a defense that actually pays attention and gives a shit? I think Cody sees he gives a shit. I don't think he'd be in the lineup... If he didn't care, no. He has to be the nicest human being in the

world, right? And he probably works as hard as he could possibly work. The skill set is limited. His secret Santa was everyone. That guy got gifts for everybody. Everyone got something from Santa Cece this year. He seems like the nicest guy. Hardest working guy. Cannot defend things. Which last I checked was a defenseman's job. So, I don't know. Oh, they're scoring at a, you know, they're winning at 112 point clip. Gives a shit. They blew that game. A game that They could not afford to blow. Do not be so condescending to say they win that 99 times out of 100. They don't.

We've seen it happen. A change needs to happen. So what do you think the change needs to be? I was super bullish on keeping Kapanen. I'm super bullish on not giving him away for free. But you missed the practice, the noon practice. And he was getting annoyed, right? He was getting annoyed at all the questions about that.

Why would he get annoyed at that, too? That was what that bothered. You want to go in on somebody about their press conference. Kasperi Kapanen's press conference, in my view, was unacceptable. Adam, you ever slept in till noon ever? No. Not unless I was completely fucked up the night before. This is the Toronto media, man.

They kept digging. No, I have. Do you want my opinion? They kept digging because they didn't believe him. And do you? Well, and I don't understand. if the whole thing was about accountability

he didn't take he didn't take responsibility I slept in it happens don't get so defensive Kisperi you slept in yeah

well and it's happened before and he started sounding disappointed in himself and then he's like wait a second it's not that big of a deal and some people were rightly pointing out

if we're going to talk about accountability CeCe cannot play next game no I think that's right he's gonna no do you how much do we

should we put on key for putting him out there on the third period so much. Who's that? Kapanen? Yeah, I don't know. CeCe.

No, Kapanen played a fine game. Listen, man, I'm with you. I'm with you. Why was he out there so much if he was clearly struggling? I have a problem with that because if Cody CeCe was a 500 grand player

who was playing on the third line and playing nine minutes a night, or no, third pairing, we wouldn't even be a discussion. I genuinely believe that every coach and general manager has blind spots. And I believe,

and you'll see this with teams, Apparently the Leafs are really interested in Sam Bennett. And I, yeah, according to, that was from Myrtle and Siegel, they've had scouts. They're intrigued, excuse me, by Sam Bennett. Sam Bennett hasn't really done much. And it's sort of one of those things where you get to the NHL level and these guys go and they go, you know what?

I know he couldn't work out at that A-class organization. And the Flames are. Just every team has. To, you know what? You know what? The Flames don't know what the hell they're talking about. Let us take them. We got this.

We got this. And that's exactly what the Leafs have done with Cody CeCe. Kyle Dubas is on record. He is bullish on Cody CeCe. He doesn't understand what we all don't see. Except everybody sees it. CeCe's it. I'd pay 200 grand more than I need to for that player.

If Sam Bennett is attached to Brody and it's a bigger deal, I'm interested. He's center depth. Great. The Leafs should acquire, and if the name following the beginning of that sentence is a forward, I don't know what we're doing here. Yeah, I don't know why they'd be interested in any forwards. Mikheyev comes back, they have the strongest forward

group in the NHL, in my opinion. Seriously, like, they were rolling right when Mikheyev got hurt. Right when he got hurt. And Janssen hadn't even come back. I don't think we've seen... No, we haven't seen a full group yet, because Engvall wasn't there yet.

Well, and they're talking about, like, in the trade deadline stuff, speculation that's starting to come up Is well guys I mean they only have Austin Matthews John Tavares And Jason Spezza And Engvall's doing

Have you hated Engvall In third line center Because I certainly have He's been fine And are we Does Kerfoot stop existing Well yeah But he's playing with Tavares

And that's fine But like The point I'm trying to make here is Why are we worried about Like why are we even Thinking about that It's such a secondary Down the line problem

It's barely a problem You're worried about A third line center When your right half Looks like that It's not even a problem It's like It's not a problem

That's the point. It's not a problem. It's not a problem. The problem right now is the same problem they had in 15-16, 16-17, 17-18, and 18-19, which is what? Defense. And a backup goaltender. And a backup goalie.

Unless it's named Curtis McElhinney. Yeah, unless it's a season and a half of Curtis McElhinney. So this is the thing. And this is where I think Kyle Dubas needs to really step up. And you know what? I say that with the asterisk of he has stepped up and done a lot of great things. Tyson Berry, John Tavares, Alexander Kerfoot. What Kyle Dubas has done with this team in the last 18 months is remarkable.

And I don't care what anyone says. It's objectively on paper one of the best 18-month runs that any general manager has ever done. And a lot of it is undoing some of the bullshit that the previous group put them in. Zaitsev contract, Marleau contract Everything else that goes along with that But there are two things he has not solved yet And that is the stuff That people are going to hold him to account to

Whether he likes it or not And I'll defend the Barry trade, that needed to happen I love Nazem Kadri with all my little And Tyson Barry's been great If anybody tells you Tyson If you were to say to me Right at the Mike Babcock firing Tyson Barry hasn't been great, trade looks like a disaster

I'd have been like a little too early And yes I agree with you, he's not looked great But since then Tyson Berry has been unbelievable. So if you think, so if you're still saying Tyson Berry's bad, you're objectively wrong. Every metric available, points, goals, assists, courts, everything you want to look at, he's been phenomenal. My issue is this.

If you can't find a guy with defensive acumen, and I'm not looking for Petrangelo. We're literally looking for better than CeCe. Better than CeCe. Because Justin Hall's been great. If you, like, if you could find another Justin Hall. Another, like, Justin Hall. let Justin Hall play the third line

yeah in an ideal world he probably doesn't play in your top four but he's good with Muzzin now that Muzzin's back

I think he looks A-OK dude like I don't know I don't know I just I

I get deja vu every time I sit in this chair when are we going to stop talking about this issue I'd love to see him and Morgan Riley

back together if that doesn't work I'd love to see a Travis Dermott Tyson Berry combo see what happens there would be one of the most terrifying combos in the NHL

and no defense, but it would just be fun. Well, they do play together, but you can't have them close a game. No, you need someone who can actually do that, and that's why, like, people are saying, what about P.K.? P.K. is not guys. P.K. is more of a... And he's out now. Not now. P.K. Subban? He's out now.

That's with illness. That's not injury. No, I think P.K.'s not the guy you need. Although he's probably the easiest to be had at this point. I think you could get PK for almost nothing And full half salary retained I'm not kidding

Which is like a quarter of his salary But this isn't the time for PK One thing I've been thinking about That I think should hang on Dubas Is that I look at a team like Pittsburgh And the way they've built their system With Wilkes-Barre and just the kind of hockey They play and they're able to

Just plug and play any No-name creative player No matter who's on defense or offense and just play around those guys and work the coaching system. And then Toronto's just not set up like that, so you have to build a team. They're trying to. They're trying to, but the way it is now, they have to build a team that can play this style of hockey that's so fast

and is just trying to outscore you. What were you going to say, Steve? Well, Jesse, I want you to look something up. I just want to say, I want to step in and say, I think that their forwards, they've done a great job with their forwards. Yes. Their plug and play with forwards is great. Defense, I'm with you.

And it's been a struggle at defense. They have that goalie. Sandy's been great, though. You can't plug and play the goalies, but at least you can play a defensive system that helps your goaltending where you can raise the save percentage from a defensive end. And they haven't done that either. But I feel Pittsburgh's been great at that. Can you look up the Marlies record from November 20th onward?

Oh, that's going to be a little difficult. It is going to be a little difficult. I'll give it to you. I'll make it easier for you. I'll make it way easier for you. Count the wins. So Jesse brings up a great point. Maybe a little unfair on account of Pittsburgh's probably the best at it.

Mm-hmm. You know, you're comparing them to the best. When is it, November 2nd? 20th. November 20th, all right. The Toronto Marlies suck. Ssssuck. Do they?

Ssssuck! Jesse, count the wins. Count the wins from November 20th. Give me a second. Yeah, yeah. I don't think it'll take him very long. The only way it would take long is if he counted the number of games as well. I'm starting to think Sheldon Keefe might be pretty good at this, guys. Because that team

stinks. They are really struggling. They've had a lot of difficulty with not that different of a roster, man. All the key components are there It's that or Pierre Engvall is that dope Which may be Well, I also wonder too Like Bracco has had a bit of a down season

Compared to last Yeah, I mean he was still an all-star But I don't think he's scoring as much He's got a ton of Now he's leaving because of personal reasons For personal reasons And Marley's head coach Greg Moore said He's out like indefinitely

Or something like that There's no timetable for his return So whatever that means I hope he's okay. Yeah, I just hope he's okay. Yeah, I have no idea what that means. But in terms of... And in a business sense, the trade ship's off the board.

At the moment. Unless that's why he's being held out. I don't know. Or maybe he's just... I mean, I got to tell you, it's tough to work for an organization when you feel you're way out the door. Like you feel like you're already checked out in your head. So maybe he just felt like, you know what, I just can't do this.

I can't fake this anymore. I agree. That's a complicated topic, but... Complicated topic, but sorry, I don't want to say that that's what it is, because... No, but there's reason to believe that that could be an element. Or maybe it's not, or maybe it has nothing to do with that. If that were the case,

excuse me, let me just, let me rephrase that. If that were the case, I would completely understand that. I get that. I've lived that. It sucks. And I get it. And people would say their shit or whatever, but I think he'd be completely justified in being like, okay, you guys have never given me a shot in like four

years like four or five years come on um and so you know i could get that if it's something completely different that's fine too whatever just get better but from a business standpoint the leafs you would think we're hoping to use him as a trade piece and that could impair some things going into the uh the deadline that simply isn't happening just you want to you want to start from november 30th because on november 20th they want a three-game winning streak okay but if you Minus that winning streak, then they are 11, 17, and 2. 11, 17, and 2. Since November 30th.

How'd they do in December? December, I'll just count up the wins. That is zero. Because I know they're on a real, real downturn right now. They have something like two wins in their last 15 or something like that. They've been getting run over. And this is with an all-star AHL goalie in Kazimir Kaskiswo, who, by the way, his numbers have taken a tumble, too.

They had five wins in December. Five wins in December. Yeah. Oh, boy. That's not good. No. One of the things that Elliott Friedman mentioned in 31 Thoughts today. Today.

Kyle Dubas has made it clear he won't trade for a goalie unless the upgrade is significant and it isn't cost prohibitive. Two big asks. That's Kyle Dubas would like a $25,000 Bugatti Can you read that one more time? So one person that Elliot Friedman

Said that they might consider is Jack Campbell In LA, because Jack Campbell Was I guess a Kyle Dubas guy He traded for him once back in the Sioux days So maybe Jack Campbell, man He was so highly touted He was one of the goalies

the States used at the 2010 World Juniors. That's when dastardly John Carlson scored on Canada in overtime to win it all. And I remember a scout. He did it out good. Oh yeah. He is dastardly. I remember a scout though because Jack Campbell made a crazy save

and he just turned around and he goes, that kid has ice in his veins. And it hasn't quite worked out for him but he's come on the past couple years or so Sure has. Look at these numbers. To become a really good backup. So the horrendous Kings last

year. He played 31 games. He went 10 and 14, but his 928 save percentage should interest you. Now it's only a 900 this year. What's quicks? Exactly. I have no idea what's quick. I don't have quicks right here, but... It doesn't start with a 9.

No, it doesn't. Probably. It definitely doesn't. Jonathan Quick has not had a 9 save percentage since 17-18. he had an 888 and an 895 this year so not good you know it's no it's not um so jack hamill would be great but it's a question of then and the leafs and kings have made trade partners before you wonder if they could make a package deal maybe alec martinez and jack hamill for x and i

don't know what x is on the leafs last night on ice surfing jeff merrick asked me uh so he's just like here let's get a tight shot of steve i just want his facial reaction that's all i want The trade is Jack Campbell and Alec Martinez for Kasperi Kapanen. And I went, my eyebrows went up. But Alec Martinez is old, man. But you have him for this year and next, and that's it. And Jack Campbell. How much does he make?

Three something? I think he makes just under what Kapanen makes. Can Cody Ceci go back in that year? He'd have to. To free up the space. He wouldn't have to. The Kings might have to retain a little bit. But I just want him to go.

But if you're the Kings, you just take it, right? Like, who cares? I hope they do. Yeah, what if they just take CeCe? I mean, that'd be dope. I don't know if they could do it. He makes $4 million. At this point, I don't.

No, I think you would have to figure something out with Cody CeCe. His prorated salary for the rest of the year is just under $2 million. Here's how bad the Cody CeCe situation is. Rationally, you shouldn't care because his deal is up at the end of the season. Who cares? But he is such an anathema to Toronto fans That it's like, no, please trade him now And we'll give up an asset to get rid of him

Because we just don't want him to see him in a jersey anymore That's how bad it is And listen, you can call me a bad person for saying that But tell me I'm wrong Yeah, because there's still three months left under that contract And we're trying to win the playoff round here We're trying to get into the playoffs first Yeah, I'll say trading him just to trade him at this point

Is a little irrational Because if someone gets hurt You need a body And you're going to ask Lilligren To be that guy I mean maybe But maybe you should have evaluated that a little sooner You know what I mean

That guy's played one game and they got killed I'd like to see him up again I don't know why they haven't brought him up I would too but they clearly feel that's not the right decision So to me if you can Man There's a trade That I don't completely hate

like there's the base of what could be a deal are there picks involved are there whatever oh you mean you mean no no no no no not trading him no I'm talking about the Kapanen for Martinez and Campbell deal

potentially you trade listen Kapanen is you hate it I hate it a little you hate it a little I don't think Alec Martinez and Jack Campbell are worth Kapanen in the future that that guy has It's not perfect, but you address both your weaknesses with, listen, I like Kapanen, cost

controlled, 23, one of the fastest players in the league. He'd certainly be attractive to the Kings. He provides everything they lack, basically. Is it worth it to address both weaknesses with this one player? Not like that. I think you've got to get fair value. What's fair value? In fact, I don't know.

How far is that from being okay? Right. It's not that far. See? But I think maybe you get... See? It's not far. Maybe you get Carl Grunström back.

I don't know. Like, there's got to be... I would kill for Carl Grunström back, but I don't think that's going to happen. I love that Kings are losing that trade. Sean Drusey has not done well, by the way, in the IHL. No? That's a shame. He might...

Listen, it's his first year. I wish they got him back. It's his first year. It's his first year. He might do better next year. Lillengrim wasn't great in his first year in the A either. He was okay. He was good.

But, like, not great. We're all, at this point, we're all agreed on selling the future to win now. Not all of the future, and I still... But at least some of it. Kapanen's the present. Yeah, Kapanen... You know what I mean? He's also the future.

He's in his second deal, though. Yeah, he's both. Yeah, like, I wouldn't give a... At this point, their future consists of three players, mostly. And that is Lilligren, Sandin Makes zero sense to trade either of them Unless you're getting God back

And up front Nick Robertson It's interesting You frame it like that He just named a trio of defensemen Are we just going to let that fly by? You know what's going to be great? When Nick Robertson plays 1500 games

And that follows me my entire life I can't wait It's interesting that you frame the future and you don't include the bunch of 20-year-olds who are on your top line. Of course. But, like, they are the now. But they're also the future. Like, I don't think we should.

They're paid like the now and near future, right? Any trade that includes the top four is wrong. What about Matthew Stavaris? Nope. Nylander? No. None of those guys. What about any of the guys who make the team special?

No. Yeah, no. No. That doesn't make any sense. So, you know, at some point You gotta give something to get something Kaepernick's not something He might be that something

If Mikheyev comes back And he's okay I'm sure Buffalo would give you Colin Miller for a bag of pucks at this point Like, come on, try that He's got two years left Yeah, I don't want Colin Miller He's got two years left and he can barely crack a garbage roster What's he make?

Three points, I want to say seven points Spezza could barely crack the Leafs roster. And look at how great he's been under a different coach. Man, the Sabres suck. The Sabres suck. We had Dwayne on the last episode. There's poison. Gerard Gallant didn't like him either. Gerard Gallant didn't like him either. What's going on with Colin Miller, man? I don't want Colin Miller. That's not the answer. That's not the answer. The Sabres got to retain at least half. Fine. They wouldn't do that. There's two and a half years left. They wouldn't do that. I'd rather have a guy who scored a Stanley Cup winning goal, and is still, you know, decently good at hockey You know what? Alec Martinez

Get the jerseys made. He's 32, guys. Get the jerseys made. Guys, he's 32. And at the end of all this, he'll be gone. Yeah, so are you. Soon. True. Whoa. But I'm not a Leaf. And Steve could be. He'll be gone. You'll be a 32-year-old before I will be, actually. Yeah, look at me. Prime of my life. Right? He's trying to get abs. Yeah. I'm sorry, Jesse, about that. I don't think it's going to happen. But I will get better.

Joe Rogan can get abs. Anybody can get abs. That freaking guy. All he's got to do is smoke a hole full of weed. You know, his podcast made $30 million last year. That is a lot of million dollars. Yeah. Man, how many years of Jeff Skinner is that?

Sorry, I'm just being mean to the Sabres. I like Jeff Skinner. I like Jeff Skinner, too. I don't know. Like, I just, there's, so yeah. And be mean to the Sabres because I heard. If they'll at least go through the trade deadline and all they do is get healthy. No.

I don't know. I don't hate it. See, I don't hate that either. Morgan Rielly's back. That's something. Morgan Rielly back. Freddie Anderson's healthy. Rielly, Barry, Muzzin, Hall, Dermott, CeCe.

You cannot take. No. You can't have them in your top six. You can't, but they will. Sandean Dermott Which is far from perfect Steve I would love that That's fantasy land though

You know CeCe's gonna play Unless CeCe gets injured The one guy Then winning the Stanley Cup Is fantasy too Perfectly healthy He's been perfectly healthy This year

The most healthy specimen The Leafs have ever had Is Cody CeCe Guy's in the prime of his life No man I think Him and Tom Brady I'll tell you this You know, it's Cody CZ and Tom Brady, the pinnacles of health.

And pinnacles of performance. Right. But let me just say this. If the Leafs go through the trade deadline and do nothing, I will be disappointed. But I would be more disappointed if they did something stupid. I don't think that move's stupid. Well, I didn't say it was stupid. I wasn't taking shots at your move.

You took fucking shots. I don't. Again, this is like criticizing a player. It's like, you hate that player? No, I'm criticizing what they did. Are you calling? It's like every time somebody tweeted me, I go, why do you hate me? People will be like, what's wrong with you?

I'm just criticizing something you said. It doesn't mean I hate you. This is exactly what we're talking about. So here's the thing. If the Leafs go through the trade deadline, Steve, you are saying that if they don't do an upgrade at least one of those positions, you'll be disappointed. Yes. Yes. You need a better defense if you want to make the playoffs, let alone have any success in them.

Dude, the Vancouver Canucks, when they made the Stanley Cup Final in 2011, used 13 defensemen. Let's do that exercise with the Leafs. Okay, so they got their seven guys when they're healthy, which is all their guys. Now there's Lilligren, he gets hurt. Alright, so there's eight. Who's nine? Marincin. Marincin, there's nine.

Who's next? Kiviholme? Kay? He hasn't played yet But fine Who's 11? Okay Well

We got Ben Harper We got Fuck Jordan Schmaltz Oh my god Kevin Gravel If he's ready to go Hopefully

There's an answer Mack Halliwell Cool You have You have 11 guys Who could play on NHL Jesse how dare you Ben Harper can barely

Play on the Marlies Those are extreme circumstances And in that case Your top four would be playing 25 minutes. It's the playoffs. That is true. Have a reasonable reaction, Steve. No bullshit.

Guys, Ben Harbour was so not good that even Babcock wouldn't play him. Man, and he was 6'8 every time he hit the ice. We're not saying we're going to play good players in this scenario. We're saying last resort. He's 6'8 every time he hits the penalty box and the bench as well. Dude, I think they need someone who moves human beings. away from the crease Jake Muzzin does that

end of list Morgan Raleigh sometimes but he's not there is he no Justin Hall he'll be evaluated in another month Cody Ceci's not strong enough

on his skates to be that person no Dermott can be that person cause he doesn't give a shit but his decision making

is still young it's still way too young if you know do I think Alec Martinez is the perfect solution? No. Jack Campbell.

Something there, man. There's something there. So you're saying, because Adam said, if they go through the trade deadline, am I right, Adam? You'd be happy.

Or you'd be okay with it. All I need for them is to get healthy. Right. And stop playing Cody Cece. Okay, well, that'll take a month and it'll take a month,

maybe. And Steve's on the side of you need to get at least one defenseman. Yes, for crying out loud. I would prioritize defenseman ahead of goalie. Just to be clear

Kapanen Straight up For Jack Campbell And Alec Martinez And you're okay with it I don't know about straight up LA has to give something else They have to

Kasperi Kapanen Is young And he's that good Wait So it needs to be three guys He would be a first liner For a pick or something There

Because he's so fast Yeah He has to play with Kopitar So you want like a second as well Or a third I don't know I don't know what I don't know how seconds and thirds

Are even valued anymore Because the I mean it wouldn't be a first Because LA's first Is going to be phenomenal Trying to figure out Like how could we But yeah man

Listen We're cooking If you can get a second rounder At LA You're picking in The 30s Is CeCe involved Is a pick involved

Is Toffoli involved Is There's something there Right now You're both You're standing on Opposite sides of the dance floor But you've made

Eye contact That's what we have here Me What are your thoughts On Sean Walker I'm into him I'm into him dude But like

Everyone keeps bringing him up I don't know why I don't know what incentive LA has Well he's coming up On the end of his deal He's gonna be an RFA But he's cheap

Oh he's cheap right now Like I'm I like Sean Walker I like Dylan DeMello And he's 25 That's the thing Is that if If

LA I mean if the Leafs Are looking for depth Sean Walker is what Depth looks like Of course And if you're giving up Kasperi Kapanen

Then you better get Some damn depth Yeah I mean, listen, if that is a possibility I'll absolutely take him, I just don't see The benefit for LA, unless he's Made it very clear, listen, I'm gone But you still

Gotta get value, it doesn't matter if he's gone I'd love him I would love him, but That'd be very interesting And then, so wasn't he Muzzin's partner? So you could Potentially have Muzzin Hall Riley Walker, or

Riley Hall, Muzzin Walker Don't care, don't care I'm telling you We've made eye contact Punch, you want a punch? Here's something I wouldn't necessarily Here's what I want to know, Jesse Do you have

I hate spitball and trade talk I don't, I actually love it, it's fun Jesse Let me ask you something I just want you to know that the Central Registry Approved the trade of Alex Martinez Jack Campbell and a third round pick for Kasperi Kapanen

On CapFriendly This is CapFriendly's So they have a new, what's it called exactly? Trade Machine So they have it so that you can make a trade Proposal and they tell you Yes that works or no stupid That doesn't work, here's why

Pull the third and put Sean Walker in Also I want to know something A playoff bound team That can't score Find me a playoff bound team that can't score I'm serious And there's a reason I'm asking So if there's a playoff bound team that has not scored a lot of goals this year

I would like to know Islanders Central Registry does approve the trade with Sean Walker Okay So you look at the teams that can't score goals Stars being one of them Playoff bound team Islanders

Yeah, Islanders Columbus is having a hard time scoring goals Only 144 They're only two up On the Islanders The rest of them Can score pretty good So you

So You narrow it down I can list you The rankings Of the playoff teams Who can't score It's Dallas Columbus

Philly Vegas Philly can't score That's the bottom score Yeah And the Islanders The Islanders too Oh sorry

Yes yes The Islanders So So then What you do Is you say Here's a guy That can score

In Calgary Here's a guy that Here's the guy that scores How about you give us a guy who can defend I'm telling you man I'm telling you Like I'm not a big trade from a position of strength guy Or you give us an expiring contract

Of a guy who can defend We will give you Tyson Berry I would love To avoid that Like I like Tyson Berry a lot They better be real good What if there's a real good defenseman that's available Like look at the team defenses

How many real good defensemen are available? Not a ton Or The more realistic scenario LA Kings over there looking fine I'm over here looking good I think you got the beer goggles on for the Kings man I think they look better

In the club lights than they do in real life to be honest with you All we have is tonight I don't want to look at Kisperi Kapanen three years down the road and go, we only got Alex Martinez and 28... We got 32-year-old Alec Martinez and 28-year-old Jack Campbell for him? No thanks.

No way. No. I still think there's something to be worked out with the Rangers, too. When you would be Alec Martinez. I think... Listen, you can sing to me all you want, and you're right.

Waiting for Jack Campbell. And that's a great song. You should have gone with Pipple. Picture that like a Kodak. Oh, stop it. Oh! Tonight! Who's the other guy on that song?

Is it Neo? Is it Usher? No, no, Neo, yeah. That's like his worst performance ever. Yeah. It's like, man, did anyone, like, proof listen? Why is that song so popular? Because it's Pitbull!

It bangs if it's 2 a.m. Does it? And it's 2000, what was that, like, 7? Man, 11. 11? 2011. I hated that song for the first time I played it, and I played it to death, and I never understood why people liked that song.

Beer goggle music. You need vodka. I was drinking a lot of vodka back then You listen to that song at 10am you got problems You were doing radio I was doing radio If it's 10pm And I'm driving

And you're telling me Hey whatever you're doing You're with your friends You pull a U-turn right now And you go to what is it Cocktail house in Pickering That we tell you to go to On Brock Road or whatever

And I'm like yeah everyone's going clubbing bickering for sure and you're sitting there and you're saying me not working hard yeah right picture that with a kodak or buddy yet go to time square to a picture of me with a kodak he rhymed it with and you know why he said kodak twice in that song because kodak paid him a million dollars oh yeah and then they went bankrupt but i'm not kidding kodak paid for that that's my best lyric my favorite lyric since they call me go so hard Because I go so hard She's got a big booty

So I call her big booty Anyways Let's um Why do we do this? You ever wonder that? Like why do we just sit here When all we gotta do Is just become internet rappers

Take a flight to Jamaica And lie that we have the coronavirus That's something that happened by the way If you don't know this story Yeah A Toronto guy Who's 29 by the way Who looks exactly like Frank Corrado

Um Don't insult Frank Corrado like that He looks exactly pull up his picture don't insult Frank Corrado has a soul I agree I didn't say he was

Frank Corrado I just said he looks like if this guy if this guy like barred in the Simpsons if the guy blew on on glass like on cold glass

nothing would happen remember when Bart LaSalle's a soul this guy so this guy this is what this guy does okay he gets up

this guy gets up on an airplane these guys these people okay how many vacations how many vacations to the self

do you guys get a year I've been on one in my In the last Entire life In the last ten years Last ten years And where did you go? I went to Mexico

This past summer You usually won every two years And it's like to visit family In Aberdeen, Scotland Yeah Where it's colder This past year We went to Florida for five days

Yeah And normally you go to You go from Toronto Where it's 25 degrees And you go to Aberdeen Where it's 14 Oh 25, 30 Yeah

And I pack all my sweaters Can't wait to spend two weeks here No I I do love it But there are days where I'm like, I'm pretty fucking cold right now. Yeah, you could just go to Spain from there. I packed one pair of jeans. That sucks.

The long story short here is that people work their asses off. This city's extremely expensive to live in. So you save and save and save. And you buy your $1,000, $1,500, $2,000 trip to Jamaica to stay. You're all-inclusive. So you can have a fucking break. Not just a break. No, this guy, no, this is a fucking break.

Yeah, we're still talking about coronavirus. So coronavirus guy gets on the plane. I thought this was Frank Corona. And he stands up and he looks around and he's got his phone going. And he's like, just attention, everyone. I just came from Wuhan province. Sat back down. So what is the flight crew to do mid-flight?

Well, they can't land in Jamaica now, knowing that information. They can't. The Lord knows where this plane is. The plane is halfway to Jamaica. Like above water? Yes. So they go, okay, I guess we're turning it around now. And that's what they did

They turned it around They landed back in Toronto They tested the guy Once he got off the plane These people lose an entire day Of their vacation That they worked really hard for I didn't even think of them

Oh my god And they have to Yeah And then they have to fly back And this guy gets arrested And he's gonna You know Get a couple mischief charges

And he starts the interview Every person on that plane Should sue him He starts the interview With Global News yesterday Saying Yeah I fly to Jamaica Five times a year

Well You know what And he lives with his parents Oh And he's done this before He stood up on a plane once And he's like I think everyone on this plane Should listen to the new Lil Wayne album

And then he sat back down And he's like I did that before and I thought this was another way Just to go viral I didn't think people on the plane would be affected I thought just people on the internet would like it He did it for Instagram club Literally And it's not even one of those adorable things

Who made this burger? You ever seen any of those? That's funny This burger's amazing I want you to make my burger every time I love those ones If you're gonna disrupt the public space You better be fucking hilarious Yes

You better You gotta hit it 10 out of 10 Or else you're just annoying Yes And you're an asshole Yeah Or you're that That trainer that just walks into that

And he catches his Have you seen that guy? The guy just What? He walks into it like a This dude who literally looks like Goro From Mortal Kombat Yeah

He He just walks in Is like And he pumps his arms like this Clearly fake yeah his clients getting a doughnut and you just go But that's the kind of thing really yeah, that's funny yeah, this guy's just a numbskull like just stupid trying to be a rapper Yeah Looks like Goro so anyway you better be endearing or hilarious if you're interrupting the public

No, I don't know how we got on this, but what a stupid story what a stupid stupid stupid move stupid person Weak parents, dude Yeah Hey, question for you I got a couple DMs about this Worse or better than chair girl? Oh no, this is hockey So it's better

No, no, no The plain guy No, chair girls put people's lives in danger Okay So chair girl's worse I mean, this guy pulled 200 people off a flight pattern Which is also a bad idea When do we find out they're dating?

Six Buzz will announce it at some point Six Buzz the Instagram account Within two weeks, book it Yeah, you're right Within two weeks He's an artist, he's got a page, but we're not going to say his name Honestly, I can't even remember his name Fuckhead McScrotum is his Instagram

So everyone visit Fuckhead McScrotum Don't do that No, don't do that Especially not on your work wifi Interesting It's a weird name Dustin Buffley, guys. Looks like this thing's coming to an end.

And I wonder if with this mutual termination thing that's coming with Winnipeg and with him, and I'm sure there'll be some sort of payout or something that Winnipeg makes. My question is, if that happens and Winnipeg is now able to make trades and that sort of thing, which would be good for them, I wonder if Dustin Buffley is not a guy, if he wants to play this year, that the Leafs go, what do we got to do? Then you trade Cody Ceci's contract I just don't see I don't see him fitting well into the Leafs system

I don't see him being good at hockey at the moment The dude hasn't skated And his ankles bruck And lord knows what he's walking around at You know That guy in the offseason is like 300 pounds And it's the offseason, it's cool He's kind of old school in that regard

But he hasn't skated Listen, Dustin Bufflin Healthy? Just plunked into the Leafs lineup Hilarious Cup contention immediately But I also don't see him getting good by June

Even if there's a deep playoff run I don't see him getting up to the speed That we expect Dustin Bufflin to be at William Nylander All he did was take time off And he's 21 And he was fine And sucked

And he came back and he was awesome Should be And this is a guy who's ancient by hockey terms By professional athlete terms And he's in a unique circumstance He's playing in a sport full of You know like 190 pound guys now And he's like

He plays at like 270 On an ankle that He could blow you up He could blow you up If he can move I would love to know if he could But here's what I'd really like to know And this is what's really important guys

So, if his ankle is good, what's Dustin Bufflin worth? Because at this point, he's Magic Beans. I think it's contracts, Magic Beans. I'm always amazed, like, you know what this reminds me of a little bit? It's not a great comparison, but remember Vincent LeCavalier got bought out? I want to say it was by the Lightning. And then he, because he was making like seven or something. And then he went to Philly?

Philly for like four. And I was like, how'd you land on four? He just got bought out. And then they bought him out, and then he went to Chicago. I think he was the first player to ever be paid by three teams at the same time. Good for him. You know what Dustin Bufflin isn't worth? More than a half-season deal, is what I would say.

Yeah, I would just sign him to the playoffs. If somebody's willing to give him a multi-year deal, he's going to take that, and nobody should do that. I hope, for his own sake, he doesn't come back until September. He's ready. Yeah. Let me ask you this. There are two players in Montreal.

First off, shout out to the first one because he did the coldest thing I've ever seen in the NHL ever. Oh, yeah. There are two players in Montreal that I'm shocked are not higher on trade bait boards right now. Sure. Ilya Kovalchuk last night. They were booing him all night in Jersey and he finishes them off in the shootout and tells them all to shh. And the Devils blew a 3-0 lead. Magic.

That team, man. Man, that was magic. Keith Kincaid is shocking. But he got the man of the playoffs a couple years ago. That magic's gone. That Fidelius charm has worn off. That dude, two of those goals are ECHL emergency goalie goals. They were horrible.

That's a little rude. Have you seen the highlights? No. Well, I did on ice surfing. Hashtag. And they were brutal. but one of them wasn't even a shot. It was an accident.

Go look at the tying goal from last night. It was literally an accident. But he missed it because he was like a Roomba, just sort of lazily across the ice. Oh, it was bad. Poor guy. I feel bad for him. But anyway, Kovalchuk.

Kovalchuk. Is Ilya Kovalchuk? It's not a question of whether Ilya Kovalchuk is going to get traded. It's a question, is Ilya Kovalchuk now worth a second-round pick? I would say yes. Yeah. But here, let me follow that up with a follow-up question. Did Ilya Kovalchuk try for a single game as a member of the LA Kings?

Well, I initially thought, how could that be right, Steve? But I'm looking at his stats. He played 17 games in LA this year. Now, given his ice time is a bit different, and LA sucks. But Montreal hasn't been great. And in 17 games, he had nine points. in third team with Montreal, he has 10. Dude, I know the Kings are a bad team

and struggle to score, and there was probably a lot expected of them, but everything about his tenure there and the way he played and his tenure with Montreal and the fact that he didn't play for like a month before stepping into a Habs uniform and being good immediately suggests that he signed his deal with LA

and literally went, ha, gotcha, and turned it off. You think so? You watch him now and you watch him then And you tell me what you think I don't think he tried as a member of the LA Kings He's great now He's a good player Ilya Kovalchuk's a good player

It's not a controversial take He should be worth something to the highest bidder And Ilya Kovalchuk wants a cup bad Like remember him 2012, 8 years ago But with the Devils That guy, he had like a broken rib Or something like that And he was their MV to MP

He was so good I don't think he tried as a member of the LA Kings Can I give you some information Before we move on too quickly Keith Kincaid didn't play last night It was Louis Domingue No no no Keith Kincaid is the Habs goalie

Oh the Habs goalie Yes yes yes I thought you meant Louis Domingue doesn't play for the Devils Louis Domingue is shocking too The tying goal Well, it wasn't.

Also, Keith Kincaid didn't play for the Habs last night either. Are you sure? Oh, it was Charlie Lindgren. The whole game, or did Kincaid get pulled? Now I feel stupid. All I know is I can't find any Keith Kincaid stuff. I'm a dumbass. Oh, my God.

That's funny. Anyways. Well, anyway, their goaltending situation beyond Carey Price is pretty sorry. So you're saying it doesn't matter. Whoever was in that suck. Whoever for both teams, the Kiki Gate wasn't there. Switch out the names. Yeah.

Charlie Lindgren is shocking. Is that Charlie? Yep, he's right-handed. Damn it. That's Charlie Lindgren. Oops. And it wasn't even a 3-0 lead. See, there were a lot of games last night.

It was 3-0. Oh, that's 3-0 right there. What the fuck am I talking about? It's just before Twitter. If Tom, if Ilya Kovalchuk is then worth a second round pick. No, you're right. It was Louis Domingue. Fuck!

Anyway. If Ilya Kovalchuk might be able to get you a second round pick. I got it reversed. Go ahead. I'm embarrassed. Adam, you can't just talk about Kovalchuk when I fucked up that hard. He saw the games, too. It's my favorite part.

You're on ice surfing. Yeah. What does this say about ice surfing? It says nothing about ice surfing! I am personally a dumbass! No, no, no, no, no. Steve's got a bad memory, I think. This isn't your fault.

What does it say about ice surfing employing Steve, I think is a better question. Yeah! That's fair! No, no, no, in all seriousness, no. If Ilya Kovalchuk, who is 36, but playing lights out... And trying. Almost a point a game with Montreal. Yes.

If he is worth a second, what is Thomas Tatar, who is literally always 25 goals in the bank? Always. Is he expiring? He's got one more year left. Isn't it dumb That his trade value is lower Because he actually makes money I hate the salary cap dude

Yeah me too it's stupid You should be making more Thomas Tatar is playing at almost a point a game pace this year He's got 50 points in 55 games You talk about a guy who was bad for like 20 games of his NHL career Yeah with Vegas that's it Like

He scored a pretty important goal for them in the playoffs It's like, geez. He hasn't not scored 20 goals at least in a season since 13-14. No. He makes 4.8 million bucks. Do you hold on to him because you're Montreal and you think you're going to be better next year? That's what I'm thinking. I think you trade him.

And the reason I think you trade him is because I think you can get good value for him. And you either parlay that value into somebody else or you just use it and draft some good players. I think, I think, I mean, I don't know what to do in Montreal. I think they're screwed several different ways. I would also, if I were them, though, I would just tear it down and keep Price and say, fuck it, we're still reviewing. I don't think Bergevin's allowed to do that. He should.

The comeback screwed everything up. Tatar, Petrie, all those guys, they should all be gone because they're going to give you so much back. Like Jeff Petrie, right-handed shooting guy who skates and plays like he does, he's exactly what the Edmonton Oilers need. LMA. Um, dude, the, uh, the comeback last night screwed everything up. You get run out of the building by the Devils, and you're as far out of the playoffs as they

are, your path is set. But now they pull themselves to within seven, you have an inspiring win, it's Kovalchuk, he does the shush, Max Domi tweeting, oh, what a legend. He has a bit of a legend for that. Like, are they gonna find themselves in a situation where they're like, you know what, we're standing pat, and they miss the playoffs again, and they acquire nothing. they might Mark Bergevin's gotta make a decision here

and by Mark Bergevin I mean ownership like you're talking about like what he can and can't do if you're already onto the qualifier of what your GM can and can't do you are done with that GM all you gotta do is be adult enough to make that decision

so Jeff Molson has a decision to make is this your guy or not I mean every time this is when Mark Bergevin is at his strongest. Whenever I think he's done, he... Rises from the ashes like a phoenix. It's unbelievable, this guy.

He's been fired by the Montreal Canadiens as many times as Chris Kreider has been traded. It feels like a lot, but it's actually been zero times. If you want a team that's good enough to almost make the playoffs, Bergevin's your guy. Ooh, Adam.

Where's the lie? Does Bergevin have more first-round wins than the Leafs? Yes. Yes, he does. Not a high bar Yeah, if you set it by the lowest possible bar Which is the Leafs It's a bar It sure is

If I'm Bergevin, I wouldn't want to be measuring myself against the success Or lack thereof of the Leafs If you limboed under that bar, Simon Cowell would be impressed It was very low, Jesse It's a very low bar Thank you for that reference I try I'm a funny guy, and also accurate about hockey things

If this was the voice would you hit the button and turn around your chair? Oh, yeah, and I would Christina Aguilera fake be impressed. I've never heard this before. Yeah, Christina Aguilera with one of the best voices in history is like, yeah, I'm really impressed with your voice, nobody. I've been in the industry for, like, two and a half decades, and wow. Wow, you really blew me away, third person in a row that's blown me away.

Guy from a coffee shop who can sing. I have 45-minute showers every day because I'm too busy singing. Wow. Dude, have you seen, listen, I've seen Christina Aguilera live, And you can I'm not a big fan of Christina Aguilera's music, but that that woman has a voice that is so effing powerful It's like crazy. Yeah, so the fact that she was impressed by anybody on that show is shocking to me I'd be like, yeah, whatever. You're not me. So that would be the whole voice. I just never turn my chair David sitting there watching just regular hockey

Yeah, what am I supposed to do? We now return to The Voice with Adam Wilde! Still don't hear it. Just the whole time. Just chillin'. Guys, I sang Moulin Rouge, okay? Right. I sang You Are Beautiful. Yeah, what?

No matter what you do. That's right. Adam just tweeting the whole time, LMAO. They suck. Live during the show. Well, it would be like McDavid on a similar show with a bunch of beer leaguers. Like, come on. Turn around when you think one of them's good at hockey.

Yeah. I'm McDavid. You, like, almost pulled that toe drag off. That was sick. But that 65-year-old that you almost pulled it off, who fell over when you made him switch blades. That was legit. Legit.

Legit. All right, listen. Let's get in the press conference. The Presser SDP. The Steve Dangle Press Conference. I think Montreal has a lot to be gained from this trade deadline, and they could set themselves up for a couple years down the road right now. They're not going to, but I really fully believe

that Montreal Canadiens could do some serious damage if they would just accept the fact that this team is not good enough right now. They don't have the top-end talent to be good enough. They don't have it. They've got good players. Name a player on Montreal who's great. Curry Price sometimes. Name another guy.

Shea Weber. He's great. He is great. He's had a great year. How long is he going to be great for? Don't know. But legitimately, all world players? We're not talking good.

Zero. They have many good players. Yes. Adam, it's amazing what you can do when the people you pay to play hockey try. We owe a shout out to... Louis Domingue. The greatest goal scorer in NHL history. Justin Williams.

Austin Matthews. Neither of those people. We owe a shout-out to Alexander Ovechkin. Just holy shit. Who now has 14 goals. I'm just reading this off Sportsnet stats because they put out an Ovechkin little thread because he has been unbelievable. He now has 14 goals in his last seven games.

That's 14 goals and one assist. His 14 goals since January 13th are double the next closest skaters in that time. That's Kucherov and Stamkos with seven. He's scored more goals in his past seven games than, like, Jamie Benn and Jeff Skinner have all year. Ovi needs just two goals to become the eighth player in NHL history to score 700. He's now 196 back of tying Wayne Gretzky for most in history. Most 40 goal seasons in history, Wayne Gretzky with 12, Aleksandr Ovechkin with 11. Whoa.

After that, Mario Lemieux with 10. He's gonna like laugh his way to 60 It's ridiculous And you guys think I'm crazy for thinking That he can get it done I don't He's getting there He's gonna be within probably

Eh 180, 175 of Gretzky By the end of the year It's literally up to him Alexander Ovechkin His 27th career hat trick last night passes Rocket Richard for sole possession of 8th place in NHL history. He needs one

more hat-trick to tie Bobby Hall and Marcel Dion for 6th most in history. What a mutant. What a frigging mutant. Unbelievable. Shout out Ovi. Jesse, what was the final score in the Sharks Flames game last night?

The Sharks Flames game last night? I was driving home during this game. Did you not close out ice there? No. Because ice surfing ends at 10 p.m. Eastern. I know that. Oh, that's right, because you guys don't care about the West Coast. The Sharks won 3-1 in a game that...

I'm kidding, I'm kidding. You always get shit from that. No, no, I know. No, they're always very kind. They're very kind and nice. The Sharks won 3-1 in a game that Giordano left injured. That team is in trouble. You think so?

When you were talking about playoff teams, oh yeah. Yeah, yeah. Sometimes you suffer a loss in a certain way, and I think it affects you. Which loss was it? The Edmonton one? The Edmonton one. Really? But that was like less than a week ago.

Yep. Dude, they got their teeth kicked in. It was embarrassing. Lou Cheech got embarrassed into fighting last night against noted tough guy Barclay Goodrow Of the San Jose Sharks And then they lost to the San Jose Sharks It was a bit funny when all the reporters said So hey where were you in that Edmonds game

He's like I don't know about you guys but this is not the 1980s It was like yeah man but like When you were acquired Trilliving said that was your job I don't necessarily Agree with the description But that's why they got you Hockey's got a goofy culture

If you go up to one of those Oilers who are your buddies And you go listen we gotta have like a fake tilt They'd do it Even a real one. They'd do it. Casting didn't have anyone to dance with. Like, dude, grab someone, do something. And listen.

Just grab them. You don't have to fight. Just grab them. It's a tough position to be in. No one's paying me to fight. I don't want to do that. I don't... No, I like my face.

Ow. I like my hands. Ow. But, what is it you would say you do here? And don't say goals or assists. That doesn't happen. Those don't go in. So, what is it?

What is it? Oh, you fight Barclay Goodrow, good Like, that's what you do here? The Flames And now that Okay, so you're off the rails Right? You gotta get it back on You're a playoff team, you can get it back on

Oh shit Giordano's out of the lineup And for god knows how long Uh oh Uh oh And the Pacific is tight as shit It is tight Uh oh

That could be a big They're currently in a Playoff spot Oh I know Wild card spot I know It's an uh oh though It's a big one

They're 5-4 and won Their last 10 They don't look that bad It's not good enough To make the playoffs They didn't get their ass Kicked 8-3 by the Oilers 10 games ago

We'll see how the next 10 goes Watch They'll win 8 straight You think that Oilers game Could be pivotal Could be Certainly could be Dude

Tampa took like 3 months To recover from Losing to Columbus three months into this season so really they took like six or seven months to recover from that loss and now they're murderers again but it took them a while, sometimes you get

embarrassed in a certain way and it affects you that team can't score they man they got their asses kicked in like almost every fight they were in and right now they're on the lower half of the Battle of Alberta

it's a tough look if you're the Flames you want to play the Oilers as soon as frigging possible. You want to get over that. You got to win. They got to win themselves out of this funk because I think it's a funk. I know it's only been a couple games, but something. That team is ready to go rotten.

They're ripe for the picking. Wow. And they're not young. They're not the Oilers. They're not, and the Oilers are asterisk. They are McDavid and Drysaddle, right? But they're not the Oilers. They're not the Canucks either.

could be a tough look Vancouver top of their division right now could be a tough look for the Calgary Flames man I'm just saying watch that that seems like a train

wreck waiting to happen you just went in on them I'm shocked maybe he's right or they could win the cup you can't say that they have they have lots of talent

there's no question alright should we do the press conference or do I already call for them we already did we're in it one thing we talked about earlier

was goal differential and Steve you were wondering some of the most recent modern day worst gold differentials because Detroit is currently on

pace to be historically bad. Now, since 20... Let me go back one more year. Since 2010-2011, the worst gold differential we have is the

Buffalo Sabres of 14-15. The McEichel Sabres. This is the last 10 years. They were terrible. They were minus 113. What were the avalanche that had, like, 48 points? Now, the second place is the avalanche of 16-17. Right.

They were minus 112, so they beat the Sabres by one point. They are the bottom two in the last decade. Third worst comes the Sabres of 13-14, who are negative 91. Now, I say those things. There was a jersey on the ice last night, by the way, in Buffalo. It's getting ugly. The bottom three in the last 10 years in terms of goal differential. Minus 113, minus 112, minus 91 for the Sabres.

So right now, the Red Wings sit negative 96. So they've already passed the Sabres of 13-14 and are well on their way to own the record for the last 10 years. How many points do they have right now? What's their record? Does Jimmy Howard have two wins? Did I see that? They're 12, 38, and 4.

Fuck! They have 28 points. I feel bad. Oh my god. Oh, Detroit fans, just... I'm sorry. You knew, though. It was great talking to Brad and Ryan on the wing wheel, the dub-dub, at the beginning of the season.

They knew. They knew. Yeah, Detroit fans are good about it. Here's how to prepare for a shit season. Here's how to prepare for a season where you know you're Trying to finish last You just kind of enjoy it Yeah I had fun that year

Man and like the injuries too Did you see so Anthony Mantha hasn't been back Since the Jake Muzzin incident He's got a punctured lung Jimmy Howard is 2 and 20 And 2 You're making that up

He's 220 and 2 That's unbelievable Holy shit. They're unwatchable. Wow. 2-23. At least Bernier has 10 wins. That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable

that he has 10 other wins. Wow. Jonathan Bernier for Vezna. Holy shit. Yeah, if you can get him out of Detroit, I'm telling you, he might be the answer. If he went on a four-game winning streak, he'd be 500. If he went on a four-game winning streak, he should win the Hart Trophy.

He has a 9.08 save percentage. I think Adam might be right about the Red Wings and not being able to beat an AHL team. I don't know if the Marlies are that AHL team. People were upset that I said that, but I'm right. Could the Detroit Red Wings beat the Grand Rapids Griffins? In a seven-game series. Their own AHL team?

Well, here's the thing. The Griffins have Zedina. So they can score goals. Oh, and et cetera, buddy. Oof. That's awful. I don't think, I think they could still beat an AHL team in a seven-game series. I'm sorry.

I think they could. Yeah. But I think if you did the simulation enough times, an AHL team definitely wins. Yes. In a seven-game series, at the end of this one, and each player gets $4 million. Like, it's just funded by some philanthropist, whatever. Could the Kelly Cup champions. Yes.

Beat the Detroit Red Wings in a seven-game series. Kelly Cup is the ECHL. No. I think if you run that simulation a hundred times, Detroit comes out a hundred. But I think versus an AHL team, the best AHL team right now, whichever one's most on fire, I think if you ran that simulation a hundred times, the AHL team would win a percentage of those. A substantial percentage.

Holy shit. They might not eclipse 40. Points? Yeah. If they're lucky. Like I don't think They're not close Oh my god

They gotta get Well They gotta get Six more wins I don't know If they could do that They're at 12 At the pace they're on

They might just hit 40 Yeah They've got 12 wins In 54 games Six game losing streak On a six game losing streak But on the pace they're at So that's two thirds

Essentially of the way Through the year Ish Yeah So if you Ish They could They could get to 18 wins

If you're a playoff team or within six points of the playoffs and you lose to the Detroit Red Wings, you should bag skate all your players until they puke. Every single one. You don't leave the rink until every last one of them is thrown up.

Holy shit. That's bad. That's so bad. That's really bad. Wow. Okay. Well, that's good. All right.

Enjoy that there, Red Wings fans. Hey, yeah. We should have Brad and Brian on. To talk about what? I just want to hear their pain. That's all. You do? That's cruel, man. No, I'm kidding.

I love those guys. I'm just saying, like, hey, so you're bad. Yeah, we're bad. Yeah, Steve, you dick. Shout out to the Wing Wheel podcast. It's a great listen. You got to check it out. And I'm just kidding about the, for what?

Seriously, that's a great show. And you know what? I'd love to know what the hell they talk about. When we were last in the NHL, they bothered with our show. As did you. Many of you. So thank you. Yeah, we did a whole podcast.

That was the year I was like Oh guys William Nylander is going to be great And Mitch Marner is winning All the stuff in the OHL That was one of five years straight where I said Josh Levo is ready to break out And he was

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