The Steve Dangle Podcast - Domes Lightyear | April 9, 2026

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

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download that. TaskRabbit.ca. Code Dangle. the steve dangle podcast with your host steve dangle adam wilde and jesse blake well let's start it with the most important news of the day it's jesse blake's birthday everybody he's old as shit look at him old guy oh an old bogey oh maddie get this do you eat eat him eat him on the main camera with your hands do the eating it's like oh no oh his head oh no she's eating him what do you get oh no he's dead when you get a penalty in san jose and you're the opposing player and then you go to the box the shark eats you on the jumbo trot that's right they got other i'm so jealous of other arenas they have much more fun game ops what would the

leafs do though honestly like pour maple syrup on your head like what is the anything anything yeah anything at all is i guess it's better than nothing being a leafs fan is that squidward meme if he had 31 other windows um the thing that like when i look at the rogers center and the giveaways the blue jays have and the amount of time people spend lined up to get those giveaways uh i think that's something the leafs could easily do now why do that you should probably you should probably charge him for the ball why has there never been an austin matthews bobblehead giveaway yeah dude that's shanny too shanny didn't believe in gimmick no he believed in the old traditional like this is an important sports event we wear suits to the games and they're

all wool you're compelling with your shorts yeah and then like he's like we're all so bad if they did 77 cent hot dogs at the leafs i think the whole arena would fall into a sinkhole to hell yeah like there's i just can't i can't even imagine it yeah i can't imagine them having fun last tuesday the blue jays to celebrate their first ever game in 1977 on april 7th sold hot dogs for 77 cents i love that what a great idea and it was a shit game but people still had fun yeah yeah they ate like 10 hot dogs get in there yeah and it cost them less than eight dollars and then even like the sharks where they had the was it macklin and will smith in the bed bobblehead yes giveaway like you can do that in the nhl there's no rules against giveaways

no only the first 5 000 get a free towel no they don't even do that free rally towel for a playoff game but only the bottom only the bottom level not the top guys no no no nobody in the greens and the blues no uh only the only the silver or whatever they call it platinum i guess and gold and red home opener should just be called we're sorry night and be free it would it it should be but it won't be it won't we're sorry ticket prices going up we're sorry they've already raised ticket prices for the season seats now i bet they should make sure about it yeah we should make shirts we're sorry like the we're sorry night shirts that they would should give away we should make them wear them on day one of next year is keith pelly making this face

and it says i'm sorry you know written in really fine print on his frame this is a genius idea are we following through on it though because i would wear that i don't have time i'm not doing no i'm kidding yeah i'd love if we if we plan we get everybody together we host our own we're sorry night on behalf of the toronto hockey organization because we can't use maple leaves in our brand no of course not um i think this was this is a good idea i like that hello my name is pete kelly and on behalf of the organization i represent sorry how many glasses can steve wear at once oh we're about to find out oh no i'm sorry you still have those glasses that you used to use to impersonate to kyle dubas or there's just your glasses uh i think those were just

we need to get you we need to get you some multi-colored glasses so you can do some keith felly impressions on the uh on the stream not on the stream on the lfr i only i have two pairs that's it steve's really stopped the impression i know and he that used to be a staple of lfr and now you don't do as many impressions anymore yeah i should get more back i should get it and there's no like macarthur sword there's no like we're we're now you're just like i i know hockey and i'm like that's that's so far back they're a bad team now you're gonna have to start tap dancing yeah like you are that's part of why you did it is like they were bad and you're like well how do i make this entertaining and fun bo's light year yeah i love that bit

which then turned into muz light year because i still had the gloves and they had jake muzzin that one wasn't shoehorned at all no i liked it no i appreciated it you should see all the thumbnails because i had the glove on and i would do this because he would do the weird elbow celebration every time he scored a goal damn you know what you're right i should try for your birthday for your birthday i'll try i would like bo's light year to come back tonight tonight bo's light year tonight steve best time to plant a tree was 20 years ago next best time right now did i unlock something in you a memory that you forgot yes he's honestly like dude it's been 19 seasons yeah 19 seasons i forgot about bo's light year i can't wait for arthur to uh to

be octium a fool tonight he'll he'll be octium a fool oh my god won't he be we will not talk about the leafs to start we need to talk about bigger things than the news domes light year yes only if i go to jail after that is a dome because they call them domes right isn't that a nickname that's a hockey guy nobody should be called dome no domes like no no absolutely i think that needs to debut tonight if he scores like max light year would have been fine but no what the fuck is that you know what i should do okay so this is hey wow this actually loops in perfectly speaking of teams uh that used to do cool stuff do you adam you're definitely old enough to remember jesse are you potentially old enough to remember that there used to be a skydome

mascot oh yeah the cn tower thing no right or that one or domey dome domer domer the turtle yes yeah i have a domer puppet wow that's in like well okay so i don't anymore because one day i was in my daughter's daycare class and i was like oh wow you guys have a domer doll that's crazy i used to have one of these and then i realized that's just mine oh and my wife gave it to them why don't you go get it back i think i'm gonna yeah i think you're gonna need to get that max tomey is gonna score tonight not gonna be like here's domer domer with the little puppet fingers oh did you know that oh my god please i need them to win some games this is too difficult did you know that domer's back what for the 50th anniversary of the jays they brought back all of their old masks oh

my god it's domer that includes bj birdie as well so bj birdie diamond who was ace's partner in crime their current mascot the girl version of ace and then domer they're all coming back for like junior day sundays so if you want to bring leo to see domer you can this season for you go oh my gosh yeah that's incredible there's diamond there's domer and bj birdie why did they get rid of domer i guess because they i guess it's not the skydome anymore no not a great name i don't anymore yeah domer's a bad homer but you know that sky is that skydome logo pretty sick i can read the little bio uh unveiled in 1989 for the grand opening of skydome domer was the mascot of the stadium his shell cleverly mirroring the shape of the dome designed in the venue's brand colors

he symbolized durability warmth and welcome during skydome's early years more than a game day presence domer roamed events of all kinds becoming the friendly keeper of skydome amongst toronto sports fans domer is gentle yet quick-witted and energetic bringing the excitement wherever he goes all right can't you just in the description be like look at the turtle what about hey this is mascot it does mascot things chat gbt right there he's a bird oh what'd you say maddie it's a turtle i thought it was a dinosaur no no it's a turtle i guess turtles are like don't wear the dino i don't know the problem is you're not supposed to see that much leg that's why he looks like a dinosaur he isn't wearing any pants turtles were a different time that's such an 80s ass mascot yes

the costumes were not good back which is to say good though i'm not expecting i don't look want to look at a mascot's costume and be like look at this art i'm just like it's look at the turtle bj birdie man that cost that that is a rough i wish they still had that looks like something that you would see on like ontario local television in the early 90s actually 1979 is when it debuted yep bj birdie looks like a member of kiddio remember kiddio i never watched kiddio there was a kids band with a blue guy and a green guy and a red guy and they were in a band and they were called kiddio now compare this bj birdie costume to like gritty like it's not even i know the mascot greatest costume innovation over the last 40 years has been incredible

what philly's got good because they got the fanatic too yes they have philly i love big nose i think the fanatic gritty and up in uh uh in montreal who was the expose mascot now the canadians mascot i would i think those are the top three right those are the no top three north excuse me sj sharky oh oh man if sj sharky is listening he's gonna be so mad at me and by the way the barracuda was mad at us too yeah that's where a lot of us started there sometimes life throws your curveballs and you don't have time to get to them and that's where task rabbit comes in and i think you should check this out because here's the deal one of the things one of the weird quirks about my condo building is that they use my floor to repel down and clean

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Usually they're the top story, but Ron Francis's time in Seattle is over. he steps down uh according to the kraken it was a mutual decision sure it was current general manager jason botterill will assume hockey operations in francis's absence as the team's executive vp and gm kraken do not intend to replace francis's role uh as president according to league sources now i don't know if that's the greatest idea but holy cow did they need a change like listen uh being bad is one thing being bad by accident is another and that is the definition of the seattle kraken they have never finished fire that higher than fourth in their division in their division they did win a round against the reigning stanley cup champion

they did that's pretty interesting his record in uh this is coming into this year not including this year oh god was 142 153 and 33 no is that seattle and carolina no that's just seattle oh that's just a seattle record and uh he's had going into this season again we're almost through it but three coaches in four years and then i mean this is the fifth year but still three coaches in five years they bought at the deadline their fifth last in the league they're worse than the leafs they're worse than the leafs how is that possible the only team preventing the leafs from being in the bottom five where they want to be is a team they sold to at the deadline.

People often ask me to define leafy. That's leafy. That's insane. But the conversations, like I, I had a conversation yesterday about Ron Francis was someone who was hung around the league and they just had a knack for putting it very simply. Seattle's really bad.

And Carolina got better when he left. he's been one of the most unsuccessful executives that we've have had in hockey in recent memory yes in terms of just winning yep carolina carol every year we used to do previews going carolina's got to be good at some point right yeah he leaves they're good and they've won every basically every division ever since right um and then he takes over with the crack and listen i'm gonna to take a moment to gloat because i told you guys on this show the real ones remember that they did a shit job from the second that that expansion was announced in terms of now the building's amazing the vibe's amazing the fans are amazing the logo's amazing everything around the team's amazing

but that expansion draft was awful they played that so poorly and ended up galaxy bad galaxy brain too like just if there was a player they didn't like on a team they would just take a guy at random and basically like surrender the pick yeah dude you can't do that i know the the blue jackets they selected gavin bayreuther who they i'm pretty sure just let walk and then the blue jackets got him back you know who the blue jackets had who was available kevin stendland wow that's a good player yeah that's a useful player that is the kind of player who I think actually is exactly the kind of guy who Seattle is traditionally wanted and they never used and that was my main criticism of them stuff like that absolutely I didn't even know that but

but their leverage was I think they set a first and a third or whatever it was or a first round pick or whatever and they never got it and my point was well you could have got seconds though you could have got something for not selecting or selecting a different player from a list or whatever they got next to nothing yeah and and i think that starts the franchise off in a bit of a tough space now a couple other things conspired for them not to do well including a disastrous goaltending performance essentially from day one with phil grubauer and a big contract burst that was like their first big free agent signing yep and then uh maddie benears and and shane right listen there's still time but those guys are not the stars that we thought they could be

at least not yet and i mean they're both you know half a point of game players but that is not what you need from a second and a fourth overall pick benears is far more pressing because shane right never gave you the uh the crazy rookie pop that got him a big contract benears did and he got the big contract you need that to work he's the highest paid forward yeah what he's the highest paid for it on the team he is the second highest paid player on the team besides vince dunn and brandon montour makes roughly the same amount of money as he does actually the exact same amount of money they're just they're so boring they're not noteworthy in any way it's the the crazy adrenaline cocaine meth come down from vegas yeah glittery

mark andre flurry first pick yeah like it's yeah to seattle who's like we got fish holy cow hey macklemore came out and this i don't yes yeah i believe you but i don't remember that the success of vegas where yes they won out the gate stanley cup final and you're like okay seattle you gotta come in here and you're gonna have to start winning quick too because there's an avenue to do it and like adam said they did not have an expansion draft because the other teams did get did get smarter yeah they did not have a great expansion jeff because the other team got smarter and the rules tightened a little but seattle also didn't do a great job with it and the leaf still gave him jared mccann yep yeah there's always a leaf angle and it's

always bad you guys want to look at ron francis's resume for a second yeah let's tell you okay so i'm gonna pull this up here this is the hurricanes by season results you forget sometimes how bad they were for how long oh yeah it's it's yeah this was a early part of the podcast here in these late years where they're missing playoffs so from 2011 to 2014 ron francis was the director of hockey operations for the carolina hurricanes in those seasons they did not qualify for the playoffs did not qualify for the playoffs did not qualify for for the playoffs in 2014 he's named general manager of the team where they did not qualify for the playoffs did not qualify for the playoffs did not qualify for their playoffs and then 2018 they also did not qualify for the

playoffs and then he was fired the subsequent year after oh my god in 2018-19 they proceed to lose in the conference finals where they do qualify for the playoffs and then in 2018 he's relieved of his duties by tom dundon and then in 2019 he's named big head honcho in seattle and he goes over there and they proceed in their uh four years of existence to make the playoffs once it's well done better than caroline one time in all those years and then for the other four years they are going to miss the playoff and by the way how about 40 wins once once yeah one time um and above 35 wins twice i look at i look at the uh where they're finishing this year like it says they finished eighth their first year fourth their second year in their division uh sixth their third

year seventh and right now they are sixth and the calgary flames they're getting worse the calgary flames could catch them the calgary flames are only two points behind them i don't think calgary wants to catch them seattle has lost five straight games they are one seven and two in their calgary you're allowed but you can't stop there you gotta keep going gotta catch the leafs gotta catch the leaf someone's gotta catch the we're not talking about it yet hold it back oh my god it's agony dude it's it is it's bad uh and the thing is is that you know we say all these things and when you say these things people are like well how come you're ragging on my team well because the team's not good we rag on our own why aren't you yeah and i'm not trying to be negative about hockey

in seattle i think hockey in seattle is perfectly healthy that's not what's under attack here uh i think they did not fire the team this is a poorly managed hockey club they hired the wrong coach first they definitely hired the wrong coach second after hackstall was gone biles mo was that man like a coach a year is not a good idea no i don't know many executives that get two bullets like that usually it's one unless you've really won well which is why i think you know it's you know it's funny this league is so agonizingly predictable um you know where he's going next right no where's he going toronto nope thank god no okay i gotta guess give me a guess nhl head offices yeah he's gonna be that is actually quite i think for somebody with a poor resume like that

you go work for the league to rebuild your clout within it jesse what about new head of player safety i would take that oh geez he'd be so much better because that's a guy who had people attack him rather than was the attacker and i think that's the person that should be because he is a person not named george peros agreed steve what were you gonna say i was gonna say okay he cannot who on earth is giving him president anywhere okay the least might be dumb enough let's go no let's go further down who on earth is giving him gm anywhere nobody he's 63 too like right okay so what's the point of agm no men of his experience will not suffer the indignity of agm But you know what they will suffer the indignity of?

Because no one expects anything of them. Advisor. Oh, maybe even chief advisor? Or is that too much? Too much. Too much. Too much. Hey, hey, hey, whoa, whoa, whoa.

You're pushing it, bud. Pittsburgh. Because of the Sue thing? Him and Kyle love each other. Oh. And he's a Penguins great. Oh, that makes sense. This league loves friends.

Yeah. And this league loves former players. I just said Sue because he was a Sue Greyhound and Kyle's a Sue Greyhound. and kyle just collects them like trophies yeah and they're friends okay well that kind of makes there are buds like he's going to i the amount of people who instantly said that to me yesterday wouldn't like it is just announce it wouldn't it be great though if you got to that point in your career where you're like man i've just i've failed upward for too long i must sink back to the role of advisor and still make hundreds of thousands of dollars just collect might even be

more than that might even be might even be more than that um you know it's funny you got guys coaching in their 70s uh going for gm jobs in their late 60s and how old did you say francis was 63 63 yeah that's real good advisor age now i do think it is good advisory just be an advisor i got it i think that seattle could be good right i mean you had the reason they were good at the beginning of the season is jayden swartz schwartz was was he not on a bit of a heater and they're not irredeemable no no like a team that could do something we were singing their praises for a bit because they were getting goaltending from both goalies which is a novel concept yep yep i just kind of wondered you know if what the what botterill is going to do without francis there

because my assumption would be that the reason they're elevating him is they like his vision more than they liked Ron Francis's. And Ron Francis probably had decision-making power over Botterill, right? To nix a trade like most presidents can. I kind of wonder what direction you take this in. You've got a 35-year-old Jordan Eberle who is going to get a raise next season.

4.75 million right now. He's going to go to 5.5 million next year. Jared McCann's got another year left at $5 million. Schwartz is obviously a UFA. chandler stevenson has is signed through 2031 at 6.25 i don't know if you hate that deal maybe towards the end you do but with the cap going up uh uh ali tolvanen is a free agent freddie gaudreau 32 2.1 million uh bobby mcmahon is a ufa vince dunn's got another year left montour's got like five years left larson's got three years left after this one alexia acts a ufa

lingren's got three years left like i there's a lot of long term here and i'm feeling like there's going to have to be a trade at some point some teams are too top heavy and just don't have the depth they're just depth like yeah there's not that well i think they were relying on stars stars uh right and veneers to be stars right and that's been a obviously a problem um maybe those are two of the pieces that you use maybe you hold on to them in hopes that they still flourish but like at some point you're gonna have to get some damn top end talent you re-sign bobby mcmahon with all of the long-term deals on this roster i mean at least he performs but i i mean he's certainly not the reason you're losing true right and tolvanen's actually been a good piece from this is the

problem like i look at them and are there any bad players there it's it's just it's not mccann was injured for a good chunk of the first couple of months right but like they're the kind of team that they need to be perfectly healthy to sneak into the wild card you know what i mean they they just like do you maybe look at and you have a great goalie piece into cord yeah i was gonna say like does a grubauer buyout make any kind of sense it didn't make sense last summer why well there's only a year left yeah yeah yeah yeah right so maybe you'd be able to do it jesse what does a grubauer buyout look like you want to do a grubauer buyout why not why the heck not and set it for like july 1st i guess yeah it'll kick in the next time it can here you go

all right grubauer if philip grubauer was bought out prior to the 26 27 season his base salary for 26 27 or the buyout cap it i should say is 2.9 million so you save 3 million on the cap and then the next following season you have a 1.5 million dollar cap it okay it's only a two-year thing because he only has a year left it's not that's not so bad why not just keep them i think you maybe just keep them i don't think they're desperate for that three million dollars next season no they're not but they're in this they're in this weird no man's land where like in a vacuum if you're bad next year whatever but they haven't done anything as a franchise right they like nothing they you got to one thing vegas did and it's like a victory of betman in the nhl

is the nhl got to seattle first or sorry the nhl got to vegas first and they got to vegas best people there love the golden knights as they should i think people love the crack and i just think that they're not a very it's not lovable when you're not winning okay how long can you lose before they're people don't love the cracker yeah i get that i get that i think they got a few more years of runway here and now there's a pwhl team and i'm sure the nba isn't so far behind it's not yeah apparently they're coming back right like you're running out of runway to make this team relevant here well i i look at the the cap space they've got 29.26 million dollars to spend this off season which is great that is good news um

not a lot to spend it on yeah here's the bad news there's no one bobby mcmahon yeah i mean i think this is going to have to be the trade route to fix this i think they're going to have to make some bold moves here and you know that also might mean teams like you know like a toronto where you've got uh toronto's in that exact same position right they're they're that team that has to clearly make trades because they're not going to be able to fix their problems via free agency or the draft let's be honest yeah so uh i mean these are the teams that if you're the maple leafs you have to be looking at these guys and going well they got pieces we got pieces we're both in the same spot we might as well do more business together we did make a funny discovery

before the show began which was uh seattle is beneath the leafs and oh well at least the leafs got picks from seattle including a second round pick to which i pointed out it's not seattle's pick yeah in the bobby mcmahon trade the kraken traded columbus's pick and anaheim's pick so the leafs don't have either of seattle's son of a gun yeah brad didn't do too good too good of a job with that one man there's nothing like picks from teams that are on the rise yes seattle acquired the blue jackets picks in the mason marchment trade and then subsequently flipped that to toronto for bobby mcmahon someone texted me this morning they're like am i reading this right does anthony stollers have like a 16 team list that kicks in july 1st you do and i was like if it's

about the leafs and it's negative yes yeah it's true yeah he was not good at these little details of the the protections that it seems like smart gms always put around these trades and signings Bradshaw living was not good at the and it's a shame because that Stoller's trade initially was a genius move like getting him in the first signing him signing him in the first place and you know what nobody hated the extension in September we'll talk about it but now it's like it is it is it's yeah there is some revisionist oh man why did they nobody you weren't all that against it at the time so Seattle gonna be gonna be some changes there I wonder if they're finally ready to get out there and be bold.

I'm curious about what this team becomes. But you're right. I think they need some top-end scoring talent. I have a question. What's that? For the two people next to me. If Toronto is proposed by Seattle and they say, hey, we got Shane Wright and we want something in return,

if you want to take Shane Wright off of our hands, are you making that move? Yeah, of course. But what do you want? What are you willing to give up? i mean shane wright right now is a half a point a game player throughout 170 games makes less than 900 grand yeah but for how long one more year yeah one more year that's a really good cap hit for a team that somehow even without the core always seems to

be cap strapped how about a gently used morgan riley okay no what are we doing here what i was gonna say is like nick robertson and what yeah really i need more than that well yeah shane wright i think i think the expectation is that hey apparently his name's already out there but apparently the expectation is that it's a high price to get him it's not nick robertson it is certainly and a pick no pick robertson to pick i want more certainly okay robertson help me out a it okay so like there's nice obviously no no nice is too much yeah for sure so we're we've got the top and we've got the bottom got it throw in nick robertson give me something else throw away nick robertson no throw in throw in robertson i'll take him off your hands because you clearly have

something i have i have not looked at his advanced numbers oh man but here's the thing here's what i know about chain right the the scouting report is he does not shoot refuses to shoot is a good playmaker though could be as a centerman right shot center you put him on the line next to matthews to set matthews up and matthews can take the left side jaws and right if he's any good at them and i don't know i'm just checking right now no he sucks in the face off dot make him a winger how about i take one of the goalies you give me waller stallers you get stallers yeah thank you adam um you have to take back one of my two goals no shot which is that makes it worse the bad one you know what yeah you know what take the grubauer year to get out of the

yeah and then have grubauer down with the marlies and put hell to be in with so there's some wisdom there because grubauer makes more but it's for less time okay and i'm you know what we're cooking him here I'm sending out so little salary with Shane Wright that you can take on something and if Stollers is hurt if Stollers plays 30 games for you you know you're gonna get 30 good games the problem is you just don't know if you're gonna get more than that but like I'm not desperate for a starter in Seattle no you got to court yeah I got one so if I need a really good backup I can bring on Anthony Stollers Grubauer right for Robertson Stollers I don't think that it would ever fucking happen in our dreams no can i have no chance you cannot have bogru from my cold

dead hands you cannot have bogru bogru is now the franchise mvp yeah how dare i hope he wears a letter next year oh my goodness dude is a current marley and i hope he wears a letter that's right that's leadership and great i i want you know the i think to wrap this on on these guys like they are gonna have to be bold this offseason i think there are a lot of teams that will also have to be i think there's a lot of teams that this year kind of got upside down the leafs are among them um the rangers have got to be bold like you you're gonna have teams that are willing to do business so yeah you just have to make sure that if you believe bottle rolls the guy and clearly they do they got to make sure that that they're winning some trades here and that they're willing

to make the trades which they seemed unwilling to do previously i i would if i was the least forget shane right jared mccann the one that got away i still want him i still want him back me too baby come back i know it's he's just uh no he's gonna join the devils and shanahan this summer along with sunny meta just to turn the knife just to turn the yeah they want him bad eh name a player who you would say is toyota tacoma ish doesn't even have to be in hockey but i think it works in hockey matthew nice powerful Can you define that for me? What do you mean?

Define Toyota Tacoma-ish. Well, we're talking about the most powerful Toyota Tacoma ever, 6,400 pounds of towing capacity. So who's towing their team? Who's the heaviest? Who's towing their team to victory? I mean, last night it was Connor. I was about to say, you took the words out of my mouth.

Connor McDavid is towing his team to the end of the season because everybody on the Oilers is injured and he's just out there scoring hat tricks. And you might say he lifts the team up with the available power lift gate with Toyota Tacoma. You see, I would say that the Tacoma itself is McDavid, but the lift gate that's helping the back end. Evan Bouchard. Oh, Jesse Blake, everybody. With Toyota Safety Sense, active safety features help keep you on the road and your crew safe and on the way to the playoffs.

Experience power, capability and convenience with the Toyota Tacoma. And we want you to go to shoptoyota.ca or visit your local Toyota dealer during Red Tag Days, March through May. the Oilers won a huge game against the San Jose Sharks last night Connor McDavid with a hat trick and five points he set them on fire Evan Bouchard becomes the 13th defenseman ever to get 90 points in a season the second Oilers defenseman to do it that is crazy does he hit 100 yes yeah how many games they got no they got like three games there's no way I don't know you think you can do I wouldn't say there's no way McDavid had five points who are they playing again who they play

I got a new other play. I gave it a five point. I know, but eight points is like doable for Bouchard. He's got 92 now. Is that what he has? Or 91. So I get nine points, right? He has 91.

So he's going to have to get, okay, Oilers Kings. That could be a good shootout for him. Oh my God. Okay, so there's four. Oilers, Avs, eh. But then Canucks to finish out the season. You could. He could.

He might. He might take 15 shots of that game. Why not? Let him. 15 Bouch bombs. well you're gonna bank on it i'd bank on him doing it i think he does 95 no no way 95 no way he's gonna get more than three games is crazy i'm cheering for him to get 100 me too but i'm just saying i think realistically it's 95 and uh uh i gotta ask

you guys because zach roenske has been the odds on favorite to win the norris trophy this year uh the oilers are going to the playoffs the blue jackets it looks like are not and maybe i wonder if the 90 point threshold the fact that the oilers are going to the playoffs Usually Norris trophies are decided by who gets the most points. There's a lot of that going on. It's not like when Eric Carlson won, he was the best defenseman in the league. And I don't think they actually made the playoffs that year,

but he had a hundred and something points. Well, Adam, one went to the Olympics. The other didn't. I know. Well, wouldn't that be? And I think Oilers fans have been sort of rooting, banging this drum for a long, long time. Oilers media is definitely banging that drum.

Are you guys willing to believe it? Are you willing to believe in an Evan Bouchard? Would you put money on it on BetMGM is what I'm asking. Norris Trophy win. See, the problem with awards is like throughout the season, people go, what about this? And it has to pass the smell test. Okay.

And people for months have been like, what about Wierenski? And people are like, hmm, hmm, hmm. What about cider? Which I was on the side of, and most people went, hmm, hmm. They were not on that cider. When has Bouchard really been in the convo? i think in edmonton all season long okay great so there's one what about the other 31 this will bother edmonton oilers fans a lot uh but that has not come up nationally or

internationally i guess between the two countries all that much okay well i haven't seen a ton of like vancouver or calgary writers banging the evan bouchard well you know what i mean yeah why does it always got to be the east frig off enough of that like like no one here is capable of staying up till midnight we've seen him what do you tell oh man they just they don't even watch the oilers the edmonton oilers no no the entire playoffs for two years have been blacked out shut up we know what we're talking about we've seen this player um listen there's a valid argument if carlson won it i think absolutely there's a valid argument 100 and that guy eats like a badger which we covered in sdp vip um which is not out yet so shut up steven but um it's a good tease

yeah if if he hits 100 come on oh 100 i think it's a lock get him in i already think it might be if columbus falls out you know people put a lot into did the team make the playoffs or not bouchard at 91 92 93 94 it doesn't matter if he gets in zero points the rest of the way his team made it didn't carl didn't the sharks not make it they didn't i just said that oh sorry But he had a goofy amount of points. It was like 100 and... Was it not 100? It was at least 100.

Yeah, it was 101. So 100 points is like that's the guaranteed threshold you're getting. Because didn't Yossi get a 98-point season or something like that? Not enough. 96, and he didn't win. And he didn't win. I think Bouchard is an outside... I put money on Bouchard winning.

I need him to take 23 shots on goal against Vancouver and hit 100. Play no defense. We know he can play defense when he wants to. Break Ian Turnbull's record, score six goals. love that if i had a vote today i would give it to evan bouchard i've swayed enough in that i think their team is a lot more impressive than the blue jackets this season if blue jackets missed the playoffs and edmonton finds this magical way to win the division and evan bouchard has nearly a hundred points we gave eric carlson a norris trophy for far less than this i would

give it to him yeah wierenski is the most impressive defenseman this season i think when you just when you take away the team success and and you kind of just look at his play this year it's been impressive yeah but when you add in the whole picture evan bouchard putting up this amount of points is more impressive than anything wierenski's done this season all right evan bouchard hits exactly 100 points oilers finish let's say second in the pacific columbus sneaks into the playoffs now what how many points does wierenski have oh uh less how many a bunch but less i don't remember he had i don't know the 80 points he has 80 friggin points 22 goals 58 assists jesus dude he's incredible he is but bouchard 21 goals 70 assists is he a mcdavid merchant

and power play merchant who has more power play points and also why do we give a shit i don't know why we give a shit point as a you'd be fan of a team with a shitty power play why are we punishing uh for having a good one 33 power play points for evan and for zach 21 but that doesn't surprise me it's the oilers yeah can i explain my thinking on this sure no so maddie you can bring this up easterner these are most invalid opinion most points by a defenseman in this in this season in nhl history eric carlson won his goofy norse trophy in 2023 with 101 points no jesse i would like you to read the top 10 oh the top 10 is bobby orr and paul coffee back to back to back to back to back to back back for the first 10 spots that's great and al mckinnis is tied for

10th and he did it in less games yes no al mckinnis is the record holder if you don't count paul coffee and bob york wow which is wow just ridiculous and al mckinnis is tied for 10th yeah wow crazy so we gave eric carlson his norris trophy in 23 just because he put up a goofy amount of points the sharks were not a good team they fed him all season long and he got his trade out of San Jose based on this one season if Evan Bouchard is close to that and is also on a successful team that is enough reason for me to give him a Norris trophy vote if Wierenski doesn't have the success then his impact to his team wasn't enough to bring him to the playoffs I don't know the playoffs thing really matters to me and if we look at the other names on this list in 22-23

The second highest season by defensemen in terms of points amongst active players goes to Roman Yossi in 22 with 96 points. He lost the Norris Trophy that year to Kael McCarr, who had 86 points. But more team success there from Kael McCarr. I think everybody looked at that and it was clear he's the best player in the league at the back end, but he just didn't put up enough points. I don't think that gap is as clear with Wierenski. I probably give him, if we're just talking about skill on the ice, I probably give him that edge. But because it's close, I'm going to give the point total and the team success a little whatever differentiator we're doing to give the award out. I'll give that to Evan Bouchard if he's able to put up a couple more in these last couple days. And then we look at the other top seasons over the last couple of years. Kale McCarr won it because he had 92 points in the 25 season.

Quinn Hughes won the Norris trophy, 92 points in the 24 season. So usually it's just top point getter. They're getting it and they play good defense and their team is good. I think your points are valid. Can I point out something a little ironic? Evan Bouchard could potentially win a Norris based on criteria that would allow you to give him the norris without watching a single second of evan bouchard hockey yeah no has more points won games that's it no you don't have to even turn the tv on i think there's there's a

there's a different evan bouchard this year the evan bouchard we haven't done a bouchard corner for a long time the evan bouchard who you just yell oh my god he's so dog shit at defense that guy doesn't really exist anymore he has his moments but yeah i agree like taking the little snippets and they throw tomatoes at him and that's a narrative that was going on previously he's been pretty steady back there yeah all of them east all of them with 416 area codes to their 416 area code liberal voting the cucks am i right high five high five and you know that you know that that that eastern general manager who led team canada and left Evan Bouchard off the team.

Oh, sorry. It was Doug Armstrong. He sees them all the time. We're really winning. I think I'm still saying, I think he should have been there because they lost a couple of puck movers and it would have been great to have him

in that Team USA game. Uh-huh. Yeah, sure. I think we're winning a lot of points with people who have the worst goatee you've ever seen. What? Steve, why are you hating?

I'm not. I'm being genuine right now. Are you not? I have the exact opposite argument to you. What? I would say the people who are not giving him the Norris Trophy are the ones who have not watched the games and not seen a steadier Evan Bouchard. You're saying everybody who didn't watch the games and hadn't seen him play defense are giving him the Norris Trophy based on points. I'm saying if you watch the games, you will see a steadier defenseman and one who is impacting the game offensively generationally.

I'm agreeing with you. I'm just pointing out the irony. It's funny. I don't know if it sounds like it is funny. If you actually watched them and then we're like, okay, based on the criteria where you don't need to watch it. Sounds like Steve hates Alberta. But not Calgary.

Calgary is fine. Yeah. Calgary is fine. Just Edmonton. Go flames. Go flames. There you go. What's north of Edmonton that we don't like?

Fort McMurray. What the hell is their problem anyway? Yeah. Instantly turned to Adam. Adam, you know, the geography a little bit better. Adam help. Do we like Banff? I love Banff.

Banff is not north. I don't know. Banff is west. Oh, west. Sorry, my bad. Lake Louise is west of Edmonton. Typical Easterner. Doesn't know.

Dumbass. Dumb at my favorite. My issue is actually with Canmore. Canmore. On the way to Banff. Oh, there you go. What the hell is the problem, Canmore? Huh?

What's your deal anyway? Favorite thing about Banff when I went. It's this weird little city at the top of a mountain. And you get there and there's this tiny little Mexican restaurant. I know. A Mexican restaurant in Banff. that's interesting let's go in and all the wait staff are aussies yes everybody works up there are aussie if there is a some sort of thing to throw your body off of for fun an aussie will

find it it's the same thing in whistler everybody who works in whistler is an australian yes because whistler is full of things where you can throw yourself off of while saying we aussies love that that's what they're yelling they love it they love it and we're are we technically east of australia no this is our eastern depending on which way you go we're east of australia international date line oh you're one of those people who believes the earth's round huh you go any way you are you're one of those easterners we are west of australia on the international date line because we are technically now go the other way why are you stopping me literal about this you asked the question i don't know adam go back to canmore all right suck it

you and i are gonna have words later um the oilers did lose connor ingram and dickinson in the game uh ingram did not come back out for the third and knoblock said he felt some discomfort after testing decided not to play the third and then dickinson exited the game uh he was helped off the ice after taking a shot to the foot which to toronto maple leafs fans means a broken foot to scott lawton uh which they will never tell you about and never admit to yeah but you're forgetting something what am i forgetting the rules are about to change also people's pain thresholds are about to change broken foot never heard of it sounds like game time decision to me he's playing he's absolutely playing maybe not the first couple games but he's playing late

late uh late addition to the uh to the line if tomorrow was a western conference final game and it was game six leon drysaddle would be on the oh yeah oh my god yeah and and like it's ridiculous but the end the oilers would be showing you think he's showing up to sharks game 78 no and the oilers are going to win this division without leon like that's the crazy part right now they're they're the top team now they have played an extra game more than vegas and anaheim but they went from oh that for since the pillow fight comment they've been pretty good they didn't have hyman for like two months yeah like yeah no they could just get everybody semi-healthy and in the lineup i think they're going to be just fine and a save is there a case for heart and norris

going to edmonton okay so always a case with connor mcdavid after watching mcdavid actually set the sharks on fire yesterday um and your comment yesterday about you know mcdavid's leading the league in scoring um what are we doing well the lightning really what are we doing though has had has been insane since the start of january yes and mcdavid has like 40 more points than leon like yeah but leon's been out i'm talking about cooch he has been out well this is what i'm saying though like mcdavid's done it without him okay and he's been oh we talk about they are gonna be like you don't know the injury we've had this year Hangle and Braden Point didn't go to the Olympics it's it's one and two okay it's one and two but

you hate Kucherov I mean yeah but like you should hate Kucherov it's one and two you're talking about two players who should be in the heart conversation for the same reasons there are two superstars who are yes scoring the lights out but they can just make the decision to win the game right and this is you know not to make everything about the leafs but like we've seen matthews elevate to that level and when he doesn't do it it drives us nuts because we're like we thought you were that caliber you've shown us you were that caliber please be that caliber and the reality is you can count the number of players in the league who can do that on one hand mctavid is one of the fingers kucherov is another and you can do whatever you want with the other three

last night mcdavid decided to beat the sharks yeah yeah i feel like it tonight we're not losing we are winning and it'll all be me and they won handily too like it was it just dominated he set them on fire and he's done it multiple times he did it last game against the mammoth like there have been nights where like you're paying attention to the box scores again you can't watch every damn game but you're like oh mcdavid didn't even really get shots with a week left in the regular season you're seeing him elevate and he's an alien and he's a he's as of last last night he's five points up on kucherov because they went into last night tight i mean if it's a scoring contest he's winning in seven less games i believe then kucherov yeah

kucherov has played seven less games oh yeah like you can go on the points per game basis it's kucherov's kicking his butt is he kicking his butt jesse he is or is he beating him by decibels he's kicking his butt adam do you have it up i can i've got the uh yeah i've got the uh the it's i'll lead here 1.76 to 1.68 oh just kicking his ass he's kicking his butt just kicking those are the margins of kick of butt kicking in these races mcconner mcdavid has 133 points in 79 games kucherov has 127 points in 72 games and look at kucherov look at and also let's have a look at the power play points if we're gonna get yeah when harris it's kucherov's points are coming five on five plus kucherov's team has been consistently good all season long yes yes i

But isn't it more of a team sport? Like, it's not Conor's fault back in 2017 that the Oilers were asked. It was Pete Chiarelli's fault. Conor was the greatest, and they're like, nah, but the devil surprised us. Give it to Taylor Hall. But we're trying to figure out the difference between five points on the score sheet and seven more games between Kucherov and McDavid. I will say that it's impressive that McDavid did it with the team that he has

versus what Kucherov has. Totally. Actually considering the injuries. I think Kucherov impact to lightning is greater is as much as McDavid's to the Oilers and the lightning have been far more successful. My vote heart trophy vote goes to Kucherov. And then I think second is McDavid and third is McKinnon. Based on criteria, McKinnon's right behind Kucherov. Better plus minus somehow. And 94 even strength points. Like, if we're going by that.

I mean, I don't know. This year is the one year we shouldn't overcomplicate it. There it is. Right there. One, two, three. The top three scorers in the league. Which one is getting your first place vote? McDavid.

Really? Yeah. wow you know kucherov and mckinnon have goalies yeah that's true like that is true they have goaltenders man does it change your mind in either direction if you know that mcdavid and mckinnon play far more minutes over the course of an entire season than kucherov and he is doing what he is doing in less minutes because kucherov can because he's got a deeper team here's what you're doing you're splitting hairs yes and if you're yeah yeah that's what that's what i'm saying if you're gonna split hairs yes it does make a difference i think he's having

a greater impact on the ice in less amount of time great great spin on it all right like if you look at the purse you're pretty good at this man if you look at the per 60 numbers for kucherov if i pull up the advanced numbers there you probably beat everyone it's it's through the roof like it's crazy what his impact when he is on the ice okay now does the average voter on this give a shit that is the ultimate question well we already know some are including the uh not including the olympics or including the olympics that is dude look at the holy shit okay so mckinnon 51 goals on 332 shots mcdavid 47 goals on 297 shots kucherov 43 on just 200 or sorry yeah 224 he's shooting 19.2 nearly he shot nearly 20 for a season wow that's stupid

it's when i am out there i am going to generate goals hot damn shifley by the way uh 34 goals this season also shooting 20 percent 20.4 actually higher than uh kucherov there good shout out mark trifoli what a great season he's having how about shoot more he has 97 points he has 97 points hundred point season in the history of time because the jets have been hot ass but he's trying do you bring leon back for a game so he can hit 100 absolutely the shit not i was wondering the same thing and then i went steven you're being ridiculous listen if this was a few years ago yes they've been to back-to-back finals they have one goal and that is a bloodlust for the stanley cup no he's got priorities yeah yes yeah yeah that's so funny

though 97 he's done 65 games 97 points oh my goodness stupid good at hockey kucherov could never no this is kucherov could never kucherov is currently is what i meant to say even even strength points 89 to 79 adam brought the power play numbers look at mckinnon look at that even strength look at mckinnon mckinnon's an empty net merchant oh i know where's the ens where's the ens show me the ens emg empty uh i don't have it up oh it's not the nhl.com doesn't have it readily available across the top all i know is that cole caulfield is the true winner of the Rocket Richard trophy. Why is that?

Oh, because of empty nets. You're a jerk. Yeah. Actual goals scored on goalies. Caulfield. Should they change the word? Does not care about abstract. They should change the. What are you doing? I looked up who leads the league in empty net goals and Nathan and Connor are

second to whomst. Please be Kutcher. You're joking. No. No way. That's why I got quiet because I was like oh man that's great yeah yeah yeah so maybe all three should be disqualified cool caulfield deserves the heart drove there you go there it is yeah because he's not even in the top 10 i hate that he has zero he has zero oh caulfield heart hudson norris demidov calder Fowler

Vesna no because he gets the Selkie no wait McKinnon I mean not McKinnon should legitimately probably get this be in the conversation

yeah you know what let's just do it Panderfest Matheson remix Masterton because he stuck it out through all that shittiness and now they're Is he even the Habs nominee? He might be. I don't know.

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Smells like prestige. I want to move on to the Leafs who last night lost. How did you stream that game? It was one of the worst hockey games we've ever seen. Oh my God. And I'm going to save the Leafs news

that broke this morning for later in this segment. So tease, tease, Steve Dangle. Do I not know this news? You don't know this. Son of a gun. Leafs lost. Not only did they lose the game

because, you know, we kind of wanted that. Let's be honest. But they lost Dakota Joshua again. Third injury this season. Brandon Carlo. So Joshua had an upper body in a collision with Rasmus Sandin.

Rasmus Sandin even apologized to him for it. Just a weird hit. For a guy his size, he just wrecks people. Carlo goes down with a lower body injury we're not really sure why neither player should see the ice again but on a normal routine

kick save anthony stolers goes down and when he goes down he brings his knees together and like pulls them up as like almost like when a toddler gets really hurt and they kind of their body kind of just like you almost tense every muscle in your body he that did that a couple of times had to be carried off the ice by simo benoit and beau grew not good um not good i think that i mean this is a player both knees have already been reconstructed his his extension hasn't even kicked in and like now we're like at his age at just the wear and tear on his body we've seen stallers at his best he's great at his best he's incredible this is all the safest this is a normal save you gotta wonder if if him returning to last year's version of himself which we've seen

shadows of this year he's been great the last month yeah unfortunately like you gotta wonder if he ever returns to that well right i mean i think you do with any injury i mean people will say the same with matthews you you can rebuild it but can you rebuild it twice and three times and and beyond that guys um this is where i go back to how do you think the leafs with stolars and wool are are not going to carry three goalies next year they are this is the way it's going to go and you can trade one of them i think you have to but you can't why not well you trade wool you're not going to get anything for him i like joseph wool i don't think you're going to get you never see goalies get much ever tristan jari moved you can no you can do it move him what are you getting

for him who gives a shit if you're trading them because the contract's bad who cares but wool's contract isn't bad oh no no no i'm talking about stolen oh yeah to me wool is a non-option to trade yeah i don't want to i thought you were saying trade no i'm like oh no please don't no No, no, no, no. I don't see. Yeah. Was I wrong? Were you confused by that, too?

Or did I just hear that wrong? No, no. I just think both of you didn't know who you're talking. Yeah. We were having two different. I'm still talking about the Kraken. I'm glad. What are you?

I'm glad we agree that wool should not be traded because I don't think Francis does suck. Yeah. Yeah. What is the one? How many even strength points does he have? Evan Bouchard deserves the heart. Not over Hudson.

But with with stallers, you've got four more years now after this. and I don't know if you can move this deal. Maybe you can. Maybe you can convince the Oilers somewhere down the road that they need another goalie. Stoller's also played there,

but it's not that I want to run Anthony Stoller's out of town. He is a phenomenal hockey player. I love his attitude. When he's on, he's incredible. Like this guy is a guy that you root for and he finally gets this big contract.

It's been a nightmare season. There's just no two ways about it. I just don't know. Like, listen, the three goalie thing makes some sense i just don't understand how it would work right well one of them's always injured it's one of stoller wallers will wallers uh stollers or wall will always be hurt you can guarantee that right so then he'll to be plays 30 of the games and the other two guys play 30 of the games it's 25 games a piece that's nice for hill to be who can kind of

work his way into the nhl i you can't rightfully expect more than 25 30 games out of either wall are Stollers you can't they've never been able to do it never oh this is the I like to me Stollers is you cannot trust him as your starter because he will curplode right wool to me when next season begins this is his last shot well he started 37 games this year so perhaps I'm being harsh but he did his Wolden wool has started 37 it's less than half a season yeah that was the criticism with Reimer and the reason Reimer immediately comes to mind is I'm pretty sure his career high with the Leafs was 37 like you gotta play man you gotta play you gotta can you give me 45 can you get to 45 like I think next season like here's the problem you have three goalies right

who starts game one next year i think that's up for grabs but i would imagine wool's the odds on favorite i think it's wool too he'll be if he has a good preseason well who's the next goalie dennis my answer is dennis yeah and stollers plays if stollers is your third goalie you gotta move them to me yeah at some point you might be able to i don't know but how do you move him if he's your third goalie or do you gotta pump those stats or do you play wool until the inevitable happens and he gets hurt and stallers comes in now it's well no i think it's beast time well i know but stallers would back him up is my point oh yeah yeah absolutely because the other thing with joseph wool too that we saw this year when stallers went down right as wool came back

we'll play too many games and then he got hurt so you can't even play him too many games in a row because he gets a tired which is normal and b can get hurt prone to injury yeah i saw the discussion today like the fatal flaw with this tandem is they're both good but neither can do it neither can do it they have the skill do they have the endurance uh that's part of it wool started 41 games last year that's exactly half you gotta give me more than that and probably guess what two more games next year yeah which matters it matters man it matters and there's no month off the schedule overall will be easier but i would it's it's it's tough i would love to know if somebody could track all the data how often the two goalies were available since they've

both joined the leafs oh man i i think last year a lot more than this year this year it might be a month hildeby in total like how long did they have both of them would you believe me if i told you hildeby's played more games with the leafs this season than the marley's i would believe you it feels like he was here for like a month yeah but he played 19 games and i don't think he's there yet with the marley's no he's played a lot with the leafs yeah it's crazy he has played 20 games just played his 20th game with the marley's yesterday yeah yeah there you go his save percentage down there is way worse than it is in the nhl but i think probably has to do with difference the ahl it's just different um it's just they've they've gotten these two goalies

and we thought like problem solved they got one of these can be the really good starter stallers that first time he was a leaf and he had the best save percentage in the league amongst his qualified starts after doing the same thing with the panthers yeah but now that they've been given the ropes to become the starters like they can't neither of them can do it 41 is like not bad last year for joseph wall but it's still not like you had the opportunity to have 50 or 55 or whatever it is and you weren't there for that yeah and they're just being careful now they're it's funny now that someone else has the reins for the team uh playing wool back-to-back tonight was out of the question and it in addition to that playing hill to be back-to-back because he played the

morning game at the marlies was also out of the question so the leafs have in full tank mode called up their fourth stringer and they are giving him his first career nhl start on the second half of a back-to-back and his name is aktyama arthur aktyamov i'm gonna die on that hill i don't care i will wither and die on that hill hames villeneuve and aktyama in the lineup tonight yes according to craig berube so berube has officially said all all the guys are playing yeah he said it last night that joshua is going to be out carlo is going to be out and stallers aren't going to isn't is done so they're not playing and they're calling up those guys as the replacements can i add to the conversation why is oliver ekman larson still playing

i just don't know what else they could they could put in at this point i do one of the guys you scratched last night you scratched stetcher oh yeah i guess yeah you know like so he was injured and then he returned to the lineup no there's four last night okay heading into last night there were five games left why is anyone especially in their 30s returning to the line hey remember when i said in mid-march that we should pull matthews nylander uh oel all those guys and now we've had two major players on this roster go down with significant knee injury since then what are we doing and like fucking garbage time i did say this carlo i don't like but has multi-million dollar multi-years left on his deal that's an asset that you have to protect and

now he's hurt well now he's not going to play for god's sake they've taken him out of the lineup oel played 20 minutes last night 20 minutes and 40 seconds that's craziness why and i'm sure he's playing that because he can yeah he's healthy enough to do so why are you even if it's a one percent chance what are you doing yeah and i'm sure he would appreciate the time off to be with like his newborn yeah or or maybe he just he loves puck guy wants to play i just loves puck so much guy or like never loved puck before come on like there's value in like i'm injured no no i don't want him injured but like i don't know i mean like i don't love it so much that i want to play through my injury yeah game 78 but all of these guys do they do yeah they're not i guess that's

why i'm not in the nhl yeah yeah again that's why eastern liberal cuck told you true they're also happy birthday uh like there's value in if william villeneuve is playing his first nhl game tonight his d partner might be oel that's pretty cool and also like who better to learn from but also oel could be a big part of next year and the future of this team could be a big trade ship heading into the off season why on earth are you playing this person he tears his acl there's four games left why why yep why is anyone returning if i see either of joshua or carlo in the lineup for the rest of the season i'm going to be furious what are you doing i guess when you're healthy enough to play i i think you should just play did you guys see that callie

yarncroke was on the power play last night at the end of the game when they were when they pulled the goalie of course they callie yarncroke on the power play like what the that's something they did on purpose earlier this year too i'm so excited like let's let's just cut to the chase i'm so excited to see the back of this season oh yeah holy shit what a miserable fucking awful experience how about we change that frown and turn it upside

down my friend can I just give you goalie numbers this season 14 goalies started 50 games plus that's what the Leafs need one of those 14 guys I would love to know how many of those guys were on yeah playoff goalies you can bring it up Maddie

Vemelka Soros thompson yes vasilevsky no on thompson that's washington oh right uh gibson no hellebuck no swayman yes dostal yes knight no dustin wolf no sorokin oh no maybe probably not that's a surprising amount of nose ottinger yes bobrovsky no shusterkin no and then kemper jet greaves and vladar you know what are at 49 49 48 hey look adam wilde genius again three goalie tandems that's what it's about i'm actually pretty surprised by that what that adam was right no that uh that uh that many 50 plus goalies are not on a playoff team yeah i'm very surprised also steve you were you were right many years ago about karelva melka congratulations i know you had a man crush on him

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fellas damn it heading into yesterday i was like sunny met as the guy he is the guy we know he's the guy and by the time last night arrived just after several conversations uh folks i think we're being used oh yeah oh yeah oh he's going to the devils yeah okay steve do you read the news sometimes and think that the world is giving you a wedgie constantly yeah yeah yeah as a leafs fan yeah the nhl as a whole is just like here's your underwear above your head whatever like oh man i don't like steve because he's a leaf fan i'm like why because the leaves are so good but this is how i know habs fans are smart hockey fans they have decency to like me yeah why wouldn't you like me as a habs fan all the sad memories for you

what are you talking about speaking of speaking of sad memories this is an aside and a shameless plug uh we had philip to know on the on agent provocateur yesterday and i when i brought up i was a toronto fan he was like oh i'm so sorry and then proceeded to tell the most incredible story i will not blow here about running into leaf fans after that 2021 playoff series and it's awesome it's a great story the sheer amount of people i've met over the last i don't know three or four years like a book signings and stuff they'll be like so i'm a habs fan but i started watching you and i'll go 2021 i know you're doing it again this year but it's no and they'll be like i'm a habs fan and like i don't even get through their name i'm like i put it was three one in the

book and they open it in front of me and they go that's amazing thank you steve but i think you were hitting on something important there when people dunk on you for the leafs because the leafs aren't the yankees or the lakers they don't have the championships associated with that the leafs are more the cleveland browns yes and but people look at the leafs and they look at your content and be like oh there's the big machine the big bad guy coming in the toronto maples when it's just been sorrow for oh yeah that's what all the yelling's about yeah it's is me going hooray all those screenshots of me looking so angry and deranged are actually me going hooray it's such an odd perspective that people have about the leafs they think they're

the big machine that's that's terrible and wins and does everything they treated like that in the nhl but it's just hey the devils are going to dunk on them with their ex-president the devil embarrassing the devil and their coach like if shanahan's in there i think he's fine like if shanahan really is going to new jersey that is literally what's gonna happen it's gonna be shanahan and meta and and it's definitely gonna be meta i don't know about shanahan um the other thing i i want to ask you guys as a part of this is if not sunny meta can i put forward a boring candidate that has been put up for more many times before try brandon pridham why not he could have left at any time could have gone to pittsburgh with dubas they're thick as thieves those two

but he stayed here apparently because he's a leaf fan and he wants to he wants to make this good why not brandon well and he's been working on making this work for a long time and has had most of his information ignored over the last three years let's just be honest about i mean probably the analytics team no that's what's happening the analytics team has not changed their scouting staff i would say he's even got better because mark leach is there he's the guy that found all the good players in dallas but they haven't had great draft picks tree liked you know what did what did west clark say on the way out we got danford because that's what tree likes right oh god and not listen not the stop i like him not the difference i'll bad pick but he's big and he's

whatever right so i look at i look at this and i'm like what if we had a general manager who's already intimately involved with this analytic staff which is apparently enormous and is well aware of the issues within the organization and how to navigate them if you can't get sunny meta who would be my number one choice i'm convinced that he's the guy if they could get him away from New Jersey which I'm not sure they can um if you're the Toronto Maple Leafs other than Brandon Pridham like should you not be going after the greatest general managers in the sport to be your president like if you're not gonna get meta you should be getting like you should be going Julian Breezewa here's 20 million dollars a season like what do you need I I kind of like the idea of

Pridham as GM if he has a president above him who's got some some cachet and it can't be a well doug armstrong that ship sailed but you know it can't be like that it's got to be somebody dynamic that ship uh was never a ship that ship was uh like those helicopters drawn on the roof the the doug armstrong is the master finagler of nothing um i'm so fed up talking about him and stuff never happening yeah i'm so fed up um no i'm interested in pritam uh like what we could talk about is like stuff that i think is foregone conclusion like shane doan is still with the team he was assistant to the general manager there is no general manager special advisor yeah it was yeah like he so he's gone um so it's brandon pridham and ryan hardy are basically running

things who was the gm of the marley's he's not going anywhere right uh clancy what's his name something clancy king clancy award no it's not king clancy but there there's a assistant gm apparently you know what like he's he's there because he's he worked with brad in calgary and he was his echl teammate i'm not convinced hardy's not gone either by the way he's really he's not an analytics guy and i think that they are really i do actually think they're pivoting to analytics i think hardy could be gone derrick is the first name you're looking for also cliff fletcher left the organization in 24 uh i think when they made their changes there there's your president didn't have a party for 90 year old cliff fletcher i know why not no we were too busy talking about how

he's older than ice cream he's the invention of ice cream he finally doesn't work for the least yeah yeah uh juice box whereas juice boxes were invented five years later after he was born like it's if it's insane it's i think i think you're gonna see a full cleaning of the i i would not be surprised if if hayley wickenheiser stays but i would be equally unsurprised if she goes um i think uh i think you're looking at i don't know about the coaching staff but i definitely think you're looking at um ryan hardy might be one of those guys again it's going to come down to whoever comes in um pridham i think wants to stay but i i like him as a gm with a massive figurehead at the top you know what i mean so if you could get like my my like my the best picture

i have in my mind is the leafs go hey let's go to tampa and throw the the money cannon at uh julian breezewater i know i've been holding on to that and dreaming about that ever since there's man and then you and and not that he would ever leave tampa but that would be what i would think would be a perfect picture if you can't get meta there's so many names i think you can just scratch easily yeah so we got the front office hockey operations list up on the screen for steve so he can fire a bunch of people yo don't know pritam stay or sorry don't gone pritam stay clancy gone wickenheiser i think steps down because she has better things to do daryl metcalf if you want an analytics based front office why on earth would you fire that person

stays ryan hardy flip a coin i don't think they would give duties to pritam and hardy if they were planning on gassing hardy but who knows i don't think the team knows what the hell they're doing right now yeah um i think he's just there mark leach i think is one of the better hires they had i'm interested to see his he better stick around work he has such a great track record you shouldn't fire that person and the rest i'm i mean let's just be honest i don't know enough about them curtis mcelaney keep that man they've had good goaltending yeah um and then scrolling down to the uh uh coaching staff brube gone lalonde stays van ryan gone sullivan flip a coin i could see him going back to lalonde you have staying the penalty kill has been the only

good thing about this team consistently i guess like uh jordan bean and sam kim honestly make them captain i guess because derrick lalonde has a good track record as an assistant and just a really poor one as a head coach he's got a good track record as an assistant here yeah okay you know that's fair i don't know i just don't want him to ever be the head coach of the leafs no no no no no me neither the big asterisk here is whoever they bring in like do they want lalonde yeah yeah that's really all that matters but like van ryan is there because baruba is there and then steve sullivan is there because they made the decision to fire marks of art can steve sullivan be sent down for the calder cup playoffs he's done a good i i haven't hated

the job he's done although they're just well they're so bad he had all his toys taken away here's michelle and friggin cali yarn croak cali yarn croak on pp1 it's great no uh a lot of guys are about to be let go but i don't think they should go scorched earth because i don't think that makes any sense brandon pridham has been good at his job for a long time uh daryl metcalf um i obviously you have a look at the staff but i think you'd probably be better off simply listening to them that's the thing like that that is why pridham to me makes a ton of sense is that he like literally the reports are that that true living was just not listening and i know berube is for sure not listening right and so why do you have the the analytic staff if you're

not going to listen you can't take everything but you need to have evidence-based approach i do that was the one highlight of the keith pelly press conference i liked hearing that i want that um and why did you invest in all of these people under dubas and immediately bring in a guy who's like nah fuck it bizarre here's the impression i've got pelly doesn't know what he's talking about right that's true that's not up for debate no does not know what he's talking about but but what i'm what i'm going with here is berube however it happened became his guy who knows about hockey and all my opinions about hockey come from craig berube are craig berube's opinions and he's been very transparent about that yes um he's now found other flames right uh who he's now found

other brains that he will adopt as his a hot new thing has walked into the villa yes for keith kelly that is exactly it and now he's like oh new hot new hockey mind i can talk to that's what he's doing like he had one in craig ruby for a couple weeks and then oh somebody else is here some people have made millions and millions of dollars by sinking their hooks into the mark that is ed rogers and i think uh if if you're smart about it and you sink your hooks into keith pelly good and early in this process you will get the job and you will get rich off it and i all of leaf's nation needs to just pray that it's the right person yeah i'm not rooting for him to fail because i want the leafs to be successful but i don't see keith pelly being in this job for very long because

i don't think he's very good again i think he's done i think he's toast if they get it off to a bad start next october he's gone by halloween like i'm serious that's that is classic the leafs showing up late to their own party no no you're gonna make steve so mad no if that is the oh man wound up the doll you know what hey hey no let's go no more no more why i oughtas leafs are talking to sunny meadows steve so that he could meeting could be happening right now the leafs need to extend the sentence why i oughta so i'm gonna none of this why i oughta so i'm gonna if you were gonna get rid of them do it now uh fuck panthers assistant general manager brett peterson has also been uh asked to talk to teams

i guess that predators uh are the guys that seem to really want them uh and bill zito i didn't realize this when he was the blue jackets agm which they should have promoted him he spoke to uh the sabers the wild the hurricanes the flyers the devils and who do you think funniest no what's funnier than toronto for bill zito tampa no close not geographically close rivalry close rival of the blue jackets no of florida florida he's a Panthers GM. Boston. No.

The Lightning? No, the Edmonton Oilers. Did I say that? Oh. Bill Zito was almost the GM of the Oilers, guys. Oh. Yeah. Can you imagine Bill Zito with Conor McDavid?

Wow. Yeah. Yeah. I thought that was a very interesting note. I'd rather have Stan Bowman. Yeah? Yeah. Hot take.

Yeah? Is that right? Hot take. And Ken Hollis. Give me Stanny Boy. By the way, Zito has been with the Panthers. uh azito's been with the panthers since 2020 so that would have avoided the ken holland era completely for them oh oh my god yeah it wasn't stan bowman jesse it was bill zito or ken holland

holy shit he built a bunch of great teams in detroit they go to the finals twice off of the back of a great team that was already there ken holland gave cody cc money on purpose more than once man kings fans are getting a full taste of cody cc by the way yeah i had some very angry kings fans in the chat last night who were like what did we do what is going on here man why didn't people figure this out several teams ago i know i know i gm he's a he's such a weird player because everybody in the nhl is like no that guy's got lots of value and every fan that watches is like i don't see it i don't get it i don't understand it once a generation we pick the hockey world just picks a player to lie about who was it who's the previous generations jack

johnson that's a really good point because he was a high draft pick wasn't he yeah and he was never that great third i think third overall yeah and every like he's the i keep talking about this he's the first player i remember analytics being like this guy's awful and people for an entire generation we're like nah nah he's great okay well here he is getting outshot by 240 over the course of a season nah okay well here's him doing it for eight straight years nah nah he's great don't worry about it keep giving him money hey hey what do you think about this tom fitzgerald's name is do you think john fitzgerald might be the former leaf i'll kill you could come in and be the president former leaf we finally get a former leaf in there

everybody wants a former leaf here's one that's actually put in the time to be a gm i'll put you through that window behind you all right by the way oh yeah yeah no tom fitzgerald gm ron francis president let's go let's light this can all slow the all slow and boring team francis also yeah former leaf that oh four season that's right so adam you've been advocating for the alumni to get one of their own in there no the alumni have been advocating for you've been advocating on behalf of them but i keep saying well wait you have to put in the work no adam you've been advocating for the alumni on behalf of them on this show no so now you have one of their own in ron francis who has put in the work he's done a lot of work in carolina doing nothing yep a lot of work in

seattle destroying that hockey city so why can't he come to toronto because i think fitzy's got more recent success okay so both if the leafs hire tom fitzgerald gm the oh ron francis president fitzgerald gm keith pelly king of the world king of the world wow that's a quite the promotion yes um you know what why not the president fitzy is president shirelli as gm right goalie coach hey you gotta you gotta keep it realistic well shirelli ron francis shirelli left the blues he resigned his post he's going somewhere he is going somewhere i can see agm pizzeria in toronto that's not a joke success does not follow that guy around no that people seem to think i think it'd be a bad hire i don't know but i could see it

what do we pivot they better get the sunny meta they better get them that's all you got to say whatever new jersey's offering we will offer more just know that that's that's what you have your pitch has to be that baking videos do really well we could do baking we could we could do we could do unboxing that seems pretty easy we could do unboxing what are we unboxing toys steve's dolls hot children steve's dolls i don't know if that works i just tear open all the leaf ones cry throw them oh yeah you're not allowed to open them you can unbox them but you can't actually open the packages no i'll do it i'll lose i'll do it front office of winning ron francis tom fitzgerald peter ellie i love it yeah i want to vom make way make way for the king

like i have a tin of head coach in front of me still berube yeah you know why because he had a really good meal with keith they had a really good meal and they had a really good dinner you know what and bring morgan riley back oh yeah yeah let's go morgan riley extension by the way i feel bad he hasn't there's an article josh cloak just put out about morgan riley and that and that no trade clause but like oh yeah that's that's over right like that's what is the article um i'll just pull it up here uh basically uh he he said my desire to stay in toronto is always going to be there there's a number of reasons but the big one is loyalty loyal to the loyalty to the team that drafted you i think that's a powerful thing i tried not to blink and i made tears for him or

maybe i'm just sad oh my god so he says obviously that's a thing as a player you have to prepare for when asked about the uh possibility of waiving his no move so is he leaning towards thinking about it uh he said this isn't the first time it's crossed my mind you think about that at the end of every year almost oh okay morgan riley trade maybe well i i think that's what's going on we're gonna happen let's go yeah i think and you know who you want to put in charge of getting an expensive defenseman off your books tom fitzgerald hey you know whose name could be out there too rob blake oh my god that's so maybe bergevin is tired of being an agm we could bring him to toronto i don't know like there's so many all we could put together quite the cast is this episode just

trolling yeah i cannot believe into the ground i cannot believe how how rapidly the leafs return to being a complete clown car yeah because it's hard to be good we're now that it is hard to be and it's easy to be bad hey uh you like you know who one of the most reasonable candidates is that we haven't listed yet a guy who hasn't been gm in the nhl for like 12 years mike gillis mike gillis yeah i think you're you're misaligning with the time that went by we had nine years of a really good franchise yeah yeah that's what i'm saying they they were pretty good and then yeah yeah no but like nine years and then now it's back down like that's a lot of success and then quickly it all fall this pro sports it always goes down quickly yeah but it's never a gradual decline

yeah but it's it's peaks and valleys i thought it's it's just up and down no it's just cliffs exactly some ladders that's what pro sports you're successful and then one year you fall off the fucking cliff and nobody saw it coming because if you saw it coming you would have done something jesse jesse how come nobody how come our up i did see it coming how come our ops can't be as good as as high as our downs or that's the problem that's my you've nailed it it's just you want your highs when you are nailing it to be the championship or the success or whatever it's just the leafs never peaked that high but they were peaking they're peaking for a good decade and then the cliff came because it always comes for every franchise sunny meta and the leafs are

meeting what has probably this weekend what has happened to the detroit red wings after the one of the best runs of the 90s and early 2000s they've been bad for 10 years exactly and that's what mostly in march steve's gonna go lie down i will mention this by the way on the devil's thing um steve uh luke hughes is out for the year so he is injured out for the four games um james haggins james haggins has signed his elc with boston nice uh and i want to know if this is a good idea or a bad idea jesse blake before we wrap up the show because it's the masters this weekend and i just think this is the coolest story ever uh bryson de chambeau how would you describe bryson de chambeau in the golf lexicon and then enigma and then they make and then well he has

decided to show up to the masters this year yeah uh with a five iron that he fabricated himself with a 3d printer that's hell yeah are we do we do we think that he'll be successful in his endeavor with his five iron i just hope it's not average i would there's only two outcomes that make any sense it's atrocious he wins or it breaks i don't know if it's gonna break because i think he does have metal in it no no the metal can break yeah you're right i guess you're right how much of it is 3d printed uh let me pull up the article the head is it the shaft can't be 3d printed i like when you talk about the head in the shaft um uh okay so i'm just looking it didn't work okay um why use this one at the masters he's like i think the clubs are finally

ready you know what they didn't actually say oh yeah he has manufactured previously uh uh some deals and stuff where he's got really involved in the clubs and i it doesn't surprise me that an athlete's like super invested in their equipment especially something like golf where your your swing is everything right yeah and brescian de chambeau is the biggest equipment nerd that we have in the sport in terms of trying to do different things so sorry i'm not surprised that he's trying something like this he said we'll see where it goes we'll see where it takes me all i can say right now is if i don't put it in the bag it's my fault so he's like adam did you mean to follow up the leafs conversation with golf yeah i did because it's the masters this weekend

because it's golf well i could have followed it up with bird watching which is what you'll get to do a lot more that's nice i i heard a kill deer yesterday there you go i hey there you go see we get steve coming back i was pretty excited i like that i like happy steve yeah good i was very i was legitimately very intrigued by the kill deer all right now we will have our vip follow follow up on the article i was trying to google it so i was trying to get some of the answers i wanted out of the out of the article and had a bunch of quotes and what's what's happening with the 3d printed um club and one of the comments says that article tells us nothing what was 3d printed the graph the grip the shaft the club head what material would you be is why is it better

than an actual golf club that's why i was like oh i don't know this headline it seems like it's just the headline yeah and there's no other information i need a lot of information to figure out like what the hell's going on with this 3d printed club and they did not report any of that information they did not they did not damn it did you want to wrap yeah because there was one more thing i wanted to mention hit it uh so canada reads is less less than a week never heard of it never heard of it so i'm gonna be on it april 13th to 16th we do have one more show before then um it's gonna be me it's gonna be four other people it's gonna be the five of us we're all gonna say our book is the best uh and we are gonna be voting against each other and it

is gonna be very competitive and very exciting but here's what's very interesting canada reads has a fan base yeah and it is different from this fan base and what i am discovering is almost none of them have any idea who the hell i am that's fine that's it is fine but it leads to very funny things okay this is so cool that you're being discovered by a new audience yeah i agree this i agree but i would like to read you okay something that someone wrote about me and they're talking about they begin by talking about another book it's uh the cure for drowning which tegan is championing and holding in that photo that all being said the cure for drowning by logan paler is my favorite to win i think it's the strongest due to its content length and style

historically genre fiction hasn't done well so i'm not holding my breath for it's different this time or foe but that doesn't mean that these champions won't pull off the impossible i do think steve dangle in quotation marks is dangle i do think steve dangle will be a champion to watch out for he's smarter and funnier than he looks incredible which i read and i was like yeah oh hey man hey okay well i i looked at this poster and i said you know what that guy on the left side he might not have ever read a book in his life yeah that's that's definitely apparently the air i give off and then when i form sentences that have a beginning middle and end they're like whoa already gone above expectations

that hockey guy can read wait oh my goodness he wrote two wrote two books let me read them no i didn't care for him yeah no i'm so excited for this people will be shocked that you can't read i uh i i agree can you debate though this can i debate so uh apparently the story they tell in cbc so wob canoe who's the premier of manitoba he was on canada reads and he won it oh cool and the story goes impressive person wob canoe that's not real yes it is yes it is what yeah i'm canoe and awesome he was i think he was like a television host or something he's very charming he's extremely charming and really well spoken and he credits canada reads with sort of jump-starting his political career because he's like i didn't really realize i was like good at

debating until i did this show and won it steve is going to run for mayor of oshawa you're gonna win the mayor of oshawa aren't you that is my dream my dream for you is to be mayor of oshawa oh man i would love for you to have to sit in an open hearing in oshawa you you could all i will say this till i die if you ran for mayor you would win you do not need that many votes you don't need man you need a dangerously small amount of votes to win city council we looked it up dangerously small and canada reads will be my jump off point that's what you were alluding to this whole time i would rather run for public office than talk about another rebuilt that's the plan here because i'm smarter and funnier than i look dangle rebuilding durham region

hell yeah steve dangle can read yeah and that's the bar set the bar in hell and you'll have luck that's a smarter than i look yo that's a great idea yeah i have i have to come with four days worth of outfits smarter and funnier than you look that's what i believe it's at what does that mean yeah you don't do i look like a dumb ass like you look you look dumb and unfunny listen you you said it well i know yeah that was a backhanded compliment for sure yeah backhanded oh my god back footed elbow just oh thank you anyway all right we'll wrap it up there uh but we uh got the vip coming out tomorrow stevie we're streaming saturday for some reason and jesse you can find the um podcast next week we're recording sunday evening

so it's gonna be ready for you on monday morning oh sick that's our that's our podcast schedule next week we're because because of your this fucking show you gotta do where you can't read and you're unfunny um because you want to go on stage and be unfunny and can't read um we're recording sunday tuesday and another day that week is it thursday or friday guys help me out i don't know steve can't read the date so we haven't got friday sunday tuesday friday i think it's sunday tuesday yeah yeah yeah i think it's sunday tuesday friday so wonky schedule because steve's got to go on stage and be unfunny almost as wonky as steve's brain because he can't read On the CBC Books YouTube channel, episode one begins Monday, 10.05 till 11.05.

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