The Steve Dangle Podcast - Emperor Penguin | June 2, 2023

Episode Date: June 2, 2023

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Happy Pride 2023! - We're running a 5K and have new merch! (00:00), Brad Treliving is introduced as new GM of the Toronto Maple Leafs (14:00), Kyle Dubas �...�s introduced as new President of the Pittsburgh Penguins (44:00), the Stanley Cup starts Saturday! (1:05:00), the Stanley Cup patch placement is awful (1:16:00), and #SDPNTEN memories! (1:26:00). Donate to our virtual 5K team -> https://raceroster.com/events/2023/72668/get-real-virtual-5k-to-support-rainbow-railroad/pledge/team?id=3 Visit https://sdpn.ca/pride for more! Recorded: June 2, 2023 Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://help.sportsinteraction.com/hc/en-us/articles/216779528-Responsible-Gaming-Self-Limitation-Self-Exclusion Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Ontario Only. Must be 19+ or older to play. Visit this episode's sponsors: https://sportsinteraction.com/sdpn Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Steve Dangle Podcast, powered by Sports Interaction. Want to bet? Backhanding. Woo! S-D-P-P. The Steve Dangle Podcast, with your hosts, Steve Dangle, Adam Wilde, and Jesse Blake. Let's go! Hey, happy Pride, everybody!
Starting point is 00:00:21 Hey! All right, now we've got a whole lot going on for Pride this year. and we are that's the sigh of someone who just did their last radio show yeah i did my last radio show today and i'm i'm i'm excited that next week i'll do i'll do the sdp for the first time in a while uh on a full tank of gas here full sleep it's gonna be interesting when we discover you like have a different voice or something i don't have that no no like i might just get i just might be more excitable and stuff you know no but it's like uh like when george quit sex on seinfeld and he became smart like i just want to know what you're like on sleep um jesse can we uh that's
Starting point is 00:01:02 funny can we uh can we talk about uh get real and uh what what sdpn and what we're asking you to help us do uh this pride so we're not taking half an hour to talk about did seinfeld age well oh god i don't care that's not our topic that's not the topic of today's podcast no all right the important thing today is guys the whole thing about age is that it it doesn't nothing really ages that well nothing no i was that's why i was when people go back and they're offended by friends i'm like it was the night it's like 25 freaking years ago guys of course it's out of context and bad of course that's why we watch retro things because they're different from today to a coffee shop piece of shit idiots anyway for this this don't laugh at that we have
Starting point is 00:01:49 a number of initiatives that we're going to be partaking in. The first being, we're going to be raising money for Get Real and Rainbow Railroad. So Get Real, an organization in the Toronto area, we've talked about them before. They do a whole bunch of events in the community. They have a lot of talks. They have community outreach. And it's just about acceptance and love. And they're really great at what they do. So we want to throw our money towards them. And they are also, with our raising funds they are also uh raising money for rainbow railroad they're a global non-profit that has helped over 7600 lgbtqi plus individuals facing state-sponsored persecution based on their sexual orientation or gender identity so to raise money for them we are joining in
Starting point is 00:02:39 a virtual 5k yeah now it's a making us do something physical yeah so so how this is going to work is we have a donation page. It's in the link of the description of this podcast right now, or it's going to be on sdpn.ca slash pride. You can find it there or just literally go to the description of this podcast, click it. We're trying to raise $2,500 because that is their total goal. And we're like, we can smash this out of the park. Our listeners, they love supporting great causes. They're going to help you smash your goal out of the park. So that's what we're going to do and the virtual 5k takes place on june 23rd okay and because it's virtual you know record your video you upload it online so it's going to be on our youtube channel
Starting point is 00:03:21 the three of us and a couple sdpn members are going to come out we've already got a thumbs up from tim haraney yeah and and help us achieve our 5k but we haven't decided on like how we're going to do our 5k because get real's virtual 5k is all about inclusivity so you can kind of do it whatever way you want whatever you're able to do it so if you want to ride a bike and do if you need if you just need to walk if you want to take a car 5k you can so because we're not uh some of us aren't the most athletic individuals shut up adam has a knee injury curse i actually do because i jumped on a rock the wrong way and it was like and i was like oh and it's hurt for two months we're gonna find some i am notably always in great shape we're gonna find
Starting point is 00:04:02 some fun way to do our 5k maybe it's each of us take a k in like a costume oh around a track like we'll go to a school down the street and we'll run around the track and we just got to do a case so do you guys have any ideas on our video that we got to release on the 23rd of us doing a five oh man see this is where when you put me on the spot like this this is where i struggle it's important to pick a day where it's like 40 celsius like today it's 32 degrees in toronto today and imagine you in a giant pineapple costume oh man pepper i oh running a giant pepper i like that i don't know where you would find do we make adam ride a tricycle a broken one again like at the marley's oh that'll make your knee feel great listen if it's this hot i might have
Starting point is 00:04:49 to put on the devil's pjs oh you do a k in your devil's pj please wear tight listen i'm not doing it i'm not doing it so how i want to talk about the raising money part because there's going to be a tier system here and that's going to be the grand prize uh so we got to get to a certain amount of money before i'm gonna don the pj okay so you're saying unless we get the 2500 yeah you're keeping your clothes on we do the 2500 bucks we do the 2500 bucks uh i will do it but if we don't do the 2500 bucks then i'm not gonna be happy steve only pjs i will do it in and i will do it in normal runner gear steve what's what are you what are you pledging what uh well if we can find a pepper costume but then like oh we can find a pepper if it's not nearby hmm well okay listen
Starting point is 00:05:38 running it is easily the worst option out of all the ones you said yeah so people like when i suffer so i pledge to run will you if we reach our goal will you do a separate 5k yeah when you first presented me with this idea that's what i thought i was doing okay and i said yeah what without hesitation so if if you adam's sending me something because i think oh no oh okay you know jesse you got to bring this i think uh i think we have it i hope we can get here in time it says delivery june 15th to 27th oh i hope so so let's let's try and get this pepper costume for everybody listening adam found a rasta impasta adult chili pepper costume i don't even know i don't know why it's called a
Starting point is 00:06:37 rasta impasta i don't also there's this one jesse you can bring this one it's such a weird name for a freaking pepper um but the whole 5k you know how hot oh no no i got another one for you that's even better but it's very expensive okay i don't know why it's this expensive i don't know who is selling this oh my god a thousand dollars i am not paying a thousand dollars that we need that green pepper costume we need that we need it but it's a thousand dollars like somebody we need to pay a mascot to be on site every time we do a live show with that green pepper costume that's like 40 of what we're trying to raise yeah i don't think we can take this money come on guys put it towards a pepper cost come on guys we're like every normal charity we're not 89 percent of it
Starting point is 00:07:27 goes to cost and expensive and we give 10 to charity how about we just get the stupid 70 dollar chili costume i'll pay for it i'm actually i'm a monthly donor uh to uh rainbow railroad oh that's awesome yeah wow i didn't know that yeah uh it was um during the morgan riley what did he say controversy a few years ago it was one of the charities recommended and uh i donated to them at the time and then i kept getting their emails and then when i got a little bit more money i was just like oh i'll become a monthly donor so i'm a monthly donor so we're gonna figure out we're gonna come with us tweet us some ideas on our discord write us some ideas and we'll figure out what we're gonna we're gonna nail down what we're gonna do i think we've nailed down
Starting point is 00:08:09 adam's gonna do it in the devil's costume we've reached the goal for sure uh steve pepper costume if we can order it and get here in time full 5k i'll do it i gotta figure out something maybe i'll do it backwards i don't know okay you have to run all short yeah that's that's a way to i'll do it on my knees yeah no yeah blue shoes no knees maybe i'll do that we'll figure it out we got things we can honestly we'll take suggestions too on twitter and on the discord too so like we got weeks we got a couple we got weeks to figure this out we can solidify we gotta reach the goal for us to do all this goofy stuff we gotta reach the goal so where can we find this fundraising goal jesse in the link description
Starting point is 00:08:48 that's our first initiative we have this uh this month second uh this will be the second year in a row we're sponsoring the love wins golf tournament charity golf tournament uh that happens at lion head every at the end of every pride month every year uh get real puts that on we'll be there we'll have our logo up on the driving range again and on a couple different holes so that'll be awesome so we're putting our sdpn funds towards uh them and putting on this event and their uh charity initiatives at get real third thing we have new merch oh do we we have new merch and all of our merch proceeds this month will be going towards uh our 5k so once we reach our goal we're going to take all of the proceeds that we made this month and we're going to dump them on top of our
Starting point is 00:09:34 fundraising goal so oh that's cool our pride merch this month or this year we have some new items uh we have a sports are fun for everyone that was designed by our community manager robert i love that so thank you robert robert well done that's great i like that and golf claps golf claps a long time requested uh item actually before we do that i'm gonna do uh a throwback to last episode we do now also have sdp 10 no stop merch i thought you were kidding why do you why hashtag sdp 10 you can grab uh any of the hashtag t-shirts or hoodies or hats and then the special edition we have the sdp and sdp 10 t-shirt which is the derrick jeter special oh my god it is for anybody listening go to uh sdp and shop.ca to find all of these items
Starting point is 00:10:40 and take a look at the derrick jeter sdp 10 sdp 10 merch you know you know what i don't like about jesse what when he tries his best he creates amazing things but he when he tries his worst it's it's so horrendously bad but it also works i don't think you think that works you jesse it's the ugliest shirt he's ever come up genuinely hideous and reprehensible like it's embarrassing no no i want to wear one i want one you're done okay so so bad if you're listening uh go check it out sdp and shop.ca if you're watching it is on the screen right now uh the baseball player with sdp 10 i'm having trouble saying it it's so bad sdp 10 lastly a part of our new merch launch uh this month uh to raise some more funds for get real and rainbow railroad is retro we couldn't
Starting point is 00:11:34 call it reverse retro because uh that's a thing already uh retro sdp merch you should call it retro but in reverse this is a long requested uh part of our merch shop that we were going to launch this month so every day for the next uh week and we're gonna launch we're gonna pull some items out of the vault oh no steve what i was thinking what calling it reverse retro you should call it orter what's retro backwards oh my god i thought it was very very funny uh all right so orcher call it that's reverse backwards because it's like reverse retro so he just he said it backwards i love that i my favorite part about this is how funny you think that is i don't know if it's so bad it's not great i love him i love him i love steve but it's not great it's not great
Starting point is 00:12:32 uh i want an sdp sdp 10 orchard shirt so today monday wednesday and friday each of those days i'll come to the podcast and let you know what new or what old item we are bringing back okay today's tell the people oh oh dear is this the the voodoo wizardry and bullshit shirts wow that is definitely a throwback jesse those did very well that's our first throwback we'll have a new one on monday uh steve can you explain what for people who aren't weren't around back then explain this shirt oh my god i can't even remember i literally can't remember the video this is from um but it was basically talking about and this is like before dubas i'm pretty sure this is before matthews marner this is like the bad bad very bad leafs the nine two leafs
Starting point is 00:13:38 and what i talked about is there's no rhyme or reason to how the leafs lose games you can just always count on voodoo wizardry and bullshit uh getting in in the way of this team now we have mugs and shirts and all sorts of stuff this is interesting jesse i didn't know you were doing this yeah that's the thing i was telling you before that we were gonna surprise you with i love this yeah so this is cool monday you'll have we'll have a new uh not reverse retro item in our in our vault on sdp and shop.ca yeah just go to the home page click the collections and you'll see them all there there it is oh jesse i love it so a bunch a bunch of stuff that was a lot that was a lot of info um i know we took up a lot of your time but a lot of uh important
Starting point is 00:14:25 initiatives that we want to absolutely some money do a lot of good uh this month for pride absolutely um and you know listen uh it it couldn't couldn't be a crazier time uh to be a leaf fan it's a good thing that the leafs exist because what would we talk about like there's nothing going on in the nhl right now uh but we do have a new general manager in toronto and i think who is it it's brad tree living whoa cool it is cool it's cool i don't know he had a decent enough press con i like the fact that his dad jim tree living said you never get tired of being proud of your kids congrats brad i'm being the new next gm and then he tweeted at the leafs and said if you need uh if you need a backup goaltender i'm 83 but i'm always available
Starting point is 00:15:07 which i think is nice shut up jim he's adorable still a fresh wound jim he's adorable learn the room all right all right i want to ask you this can we be over that no why are we not over that there are still people tweeting about that and i'm like i'm over that no it didn't you know kyle kyle wasn't cool with the way things were he submitted a contract offer that said hey if you'd like to retain me here's how i think it could work best oh i thought we're not talking about david ayers no i'm not talking about david ayers you're not over that i was like why would i ever get over that i i think i think at a certain point it's like okay he's not it's not gonna happen it's over i mean it's a fresh wound but is it fresh though it's two and a half weeks old like
Starting point is 00:15:49 at a certain point we got to move on i've never seen listen i get kyle dubas was a good guy i get he he ran a good ship around here but for i for one am excited because we enter an era of change and chaos and and this could be great this could be terrible but at least we know it'll be interesting what what i really here's what i think was encouraging about that press conference uh remember i talked about how um it's bad when you fire a gm a new guy comes in and he completely undoes everything the previous GM did like that's not a situation that you want right uh because even if the guy does a good job he's going to spend at least 18 months undoing all those problems right Dubas has some things he needs to undo yep in Pittsburgh like that well we'll get into that
Starting point is 00:16:43 later that's coming that's tough like I I feel like even Dubas's harshest critics wouldn't say he did a bad job no how could you he didn't get over the hump but like they were a really good regular season team and etc etc and what i liked is jim true living oh shit brad true living came in and was very complimentary of the leafs yes and what they've accomplished and i liked his anecdote about um you know Sheldon Keefe has had back-to-back 115 point seasons as coach and when he first got to Calgary he inherited Bob Hartley who I think then won coach of the year yes and he was there for two seasons right so you know he talked about a lot of the things that the Leafs do well and they're doing better at uh checking and everything so like he talked about
Starting point is 00:17:43 this team isn't in dire straits and then he also went into specifics about the things that they are doing well or improving at so like let there be no confusion about true living coming in and being like we need more big truculent lug heads or something like that it's you know he just needs to make a better team he didn't he didn't commit to trading any of the core four he did commit to signing austin matthews he committed to signing austin matthews which is the right thing to do that's the only one though that's the only one um so he didn't commit to trading any of the core four he didn't commit to keeping the core four he did commit to keeping austin matthews he committed to trying to keep austin matthews he didn't even commit to actually keeping him you know what i
Starting point is 00:18:32 read the quote go ahead he said uh he said austin is one of the elite players uh in the world we're not talking about a good player in the league we're talking about an elite player in the world getting to austin is a priority that's priority number one there you go i mean listen i i mean the only like you would have to be crazy to to think it would be something else right of course that's it um he did talk about how he'd like he said uh um uh he said he wants to be protective of the players especially like the the core four he's like i'm fiercely protective of my players but this can't be about the core four this is about the toronto maple leafs it's not about four players or two guys or one guys it's about 23 guys uh that we're going to have in this
Starting point is 00:19:16 organization this is not philadelphia this is this is not where it felt like the flyers were punishing their roster for not being good enough and we're going to hire john tortorella and he's gonna be a pain in your ass and play time is over this isn't that this is just a different set of eyes i was gonna say a different vision a different path it's not even that it's just a different set of eyes so you know am i over the moon that dubas is gone not really but i think he's pretty happy he's gone he got a promotion he's the president of the pittsburgh penguins you know what i mean he's shanahan's equal right if there was a meeting of all the presidents they're gonna meet face to face and it's gonna be awkward as hell and but
Starting point is 00:20:06 they're gonna be equals shan he's president of the leafs he's president of the penguins uh what's done is done and and uh i think it's one of those things where you keep receipts and you remember what happened and you know this this goes on shanahan's record if it i mean if if true living doesn't work out if he does a bad job shanahan should be fired before he is he's a rare president that has hired four different general managers or three sorry three different general managers and i mean he really he fired the last crew too he fired the like so the first crew coming in he fired them all too like he fired nonas uh so he's had four now gms underneath him And notably, I know we didn't love the job that Claude Lozelle and Dave Poulin did, but he also kind of sort of allegedly ghosted them.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Is that what happened? On their way out. Dave Poulin talked about. What did he say? Oh, I didn't speak to Shanahan for like the last several months or whatever that he was there. And there's, you know, rumors going around that some people in the organization are being spoken to. Others aren't. Right.
Starting point is 00:21:14 so if this doesn't work it's squarely on him squarely 100 on him i will barely even utter the name brad for living we need to rethink the president position i think in multiple sports now because messiah jerry really started it within the mlse organization where the gm is no longer the one who calls the shots as the president like bobby webster is the general manager of on raptors but if any moves need to be made it goes through messiah jury and i think brendan shanahan looked across the hall and he said that's kind of the way uh we're doing this with pro sports now where the president is the more general manager role that we think about five ten years ago yeah like you look at um jim rutherford in vancouver jim rutherford is the quote gm that we
Starting point is 00:22:03 think about the gm position being but he's president like they they have a general manager but all decisions go through Mr. Rutherford. And this has been the interesting thing about Dubas not having a GM and everyone's theorizing like, oh, who's he going to hire? And Frank Cervalli said Cam Lawrence could be a nominee. But I think Dubas is more than comfortable just handling it himself. So you missed the press conference, parts of it. On purpose.
Starting point is 00:22:28 On purpose. For the show. So Dubas spoke about that and he said he'll be handling the general manager duties until at least mid-July. And we know he knows how to do that because he's been he's a general manager. And also, that's what the president does in 2023. These these new fangled presidents, the ones who are going in the roles now, they look at themselves as the decision makers. It's not unless ownership is hiring specific business people to handle the business operations. And then the business person hires a general manager to handle the hockey operations, which is kind of like what we have in Philadelphia, where the president is, who reports to Comcast as sort of a business guy and not necessarily the hockey guy. Reports right to Comcast.
Starting point is 00:23:12 Just moved down the hall. The president is now the GM. So Shani is responsible for these decisions. Dubas has been a GM. him shanney hasn't shanney i'm not comfortable with no but he has yeah he has the role he's been playing all he's done is say said yes or no that's you have you have to rethink what you think about a general manager well at least in this situation and shanahan by the way dismissed that uh over the press conference um i don't doubt that he did he said uh he said uh true
Starting point is 00:23:41 living was brought in uh he said dismissed whispers that tree living was brought in to be subservient to a boss between ownership uh um basically and this is in i think luke fox's article here um something the ambitious dubas no longer must do in his newfound presidency with the pittsburgh penguins uh true living will hold the final say on hockey calls according to shanahan he said just like dubas and lou lamorello quote ultimately the decision has to be made by the general manager that's how i've always operated that's how i continue to operate and i think brad is a collaborative person okay but ultimately no i really do feel the responsibility has to come from the general manager so that doesn't change so that his nose grow during that whole yeah that
Starting point is 00:24:22 means nothing to me because we know it's not true it was just it was just going on it's getting my poke cj in the head the nose is growing so big just knock him on the forehead he up there lying it's not my theory that's not true either guys that's it's not true dubas did not have the final say on hockey decision no it's well if he did brendan haggle would have been a leaf yep yeah so brendan shanahan is the ultimate decision do you see how this all comes back to him ultimately oh i think everybody sees it you can't cry over spilt milk right so dubas is gone so bradra living's the new guy if true living does not succeed brendan shanahan must be fired before brad at at least at the same time right dude you're the guy you're the guy
Starting point is 00:25:11 you know everyone's uncle how they were like all that fucking kid yeah let's completely ignore the guy who hired him all this branch really there's erica you could wind your watch to you know if the leafs don't get it done if they continue to fail the way they have failed it's directly 100 brendan shanahan's fault if they win legends row oh yeah don't give a shit legends row i don't care that he never wore the uniform legends justin hall justin hall legends legend bro i do i do want to say that on uh my sports interaction bet paid out i put two dollars down on who will be the next general manager for the leafs brad for a living oh yeah pick he was the he was the favorite and i won four dollars and forty cents baby
Starting point is 00:26:02 i think those are that's pretty good by the way there's lots of odds in the dangles doozy section we're going to get to a little bit later um especially for the stanley cup final but i just wanted to brag about my uh my big win yeah so no i think i think it's i think that that's the thing right and and and so uh it's not like bradshaw living could have sat down across from shanning but like shanning whatever it is you did with dubas in terms of the power structure i need that to change he's probably like no i'm happy it's the leafs let's go and we need we need when people quote that shanahan thing he's brendan shanahan said brad treliving will have the final decision on all hockey decisions comma end quote which we know isn't true period that's responsible reporting
Starting point is 00:26:48 it's not true anyway i don't think cj wrote his article with that no cj didn't write this he should have uh we know it's not true true living has also been texting he obviously reached out to judd moldover uh who he has a good relationship with he also was texting with uh mark giordano who was the captain for him a long time in calgary and he said it's good to see him still playing at 75 he's funny i don't know man i found him charming no i i a thousand percent and i think so so the what we've heard around um from like you know reporters and stuff and we heard this from julian directly he said he's a really great guy who said he was sorry to see him go yeah um I'm sure man Brad Treliving must have been I must have cut quite the contrast
Starting point is 00:27:30 to Sutter who you know Eric Francis openly reported that people were afraid of yeah like that people didn't want to talk to him because he was so mean to them he like like Brad Treliving must have been like a care bearer compared to that Treliving had just the right amount of aw shucks in his intro without being hat in hand yes and being like hey guys I know you the other guy was really popular and he got fired and i'm replacing him but i really thought his press conference went about as well as a press conference can go yeah ultimately he hasn't done anything it's day one you can only take so much from it and one thing that julian said in particular adam i'm very happy you brought that up was how available uh bradshaw living was to media members like julian was only
Starting point is 00:28:14 there for a year but he said he had a lot of conversations with him and that's that's not common across all general managers you know who are willing to talk to the media and all that stuff so yeah i don't know i think for for all the dubasites who are so upset that he left we got to remember he didn't win anything you know it's not like they're losing somebody who was like super successful here and with bradshaw living he seemed he got off on a great foot it was a great press conference and let's see how this goes maybe he can change culture a little bit and actually win something here yeah i'm very hopeful for the future i also want to say that i think that you know if let's say and i really hope this happens let's say the leafs win the
Starting point is 00:28:53 cup this coming year there will be 40 different articles on every website that it was really dubious that deserves the credit oh don't do that and the most i don't do that i think they'll be right because a lot of it a lot of this team has been assembled by kyle now now does that mean we give all the credit to kyle no i do think though that if they win with the court let's say they win with the core four i think dubas gets him you gotta give him a nod for that don't you think he kept him together you know who gets a nod dave known as for making the team bad enough to get those picks yeah okay okay good point good point 10 unrestricted free agents this summer 10 ufas and it's too bad notice isn't in charge to overpay them all every win here on out no that's brad's
Starting point is 00:29:46 job dubas doesn't get any credit for any of these wins he's not here anymore yeah not how it works no no but it does no i it's a very it's a different situation too there was there was one very unique situation and that's when brian burke was fired like a week and a half before the 2013 season began that team was his he built a team and then he was fired yeah so everyone was like ah dave notice did it what the fuck no he didn't he acquired ryan o'burn at the trade deadline that's all he did this was burke's goalie burke's forwards burke's defense yeah all of it was burke's um this is june it's no it's very different no i don't like that i'm just saying you just i just want you to know that this is what's coming there have already there's already
Starting point is 00:30:34 been transactions allegedly since uh brad took over yep um simeon dorogachintsev is going back to russia sounds like he's signed with torpeda and there's no i wasn't even gonna bother trying to uh pronounce that i'm so glad you know how i bothered and i fucked it up there you go i think i think uh listen i know that people are mad about dubas or whatever listen i i don't think here's when i think of kyle and i would like to stop talking about kyle so much in the context of the toronto maple east happy to talk about him as the as the penguins guy because he is the penguins guy but when we look at um when we look at this i do feel like and i think if you're being honest with yourself you could feel like unless you are literally a disciple of this man the
Starting point is 00:31:22 The Leafs could use a fresh set of eyes. Is that that hard to say? Why not? They have not had, they have had incredible success in the regular season, but let's not, let's not pretend they're winning president's trophies. They're not.
Starting point is 00:31:35 They're not, but they're not. And then let me finish this point and then, and then jump in. But the, but the post-season results, I'm sorry guys. And I think you're with me on this.
Starting point is 00:31:46 If you're a Leaf fan, unacceptable. Yeah. Completely. Happy to, happy to have given him another shot at it. Dubas for sure. But I'm also not against a fresh set of eyes. And you know what? You know, people were giving me shit about saying that the Tyler Toffoli trade wasn't actually that good. I'm like, man, he actually has been really freaking good. And yes,
Starting point is 00:32:03 he gave up a first, a fourth and a fifth for Tyler Toffoli. Or yes, he signed Huberto at the top of Huberto's value, whatever. I look at his wholesome view, this guy. I don't know. I don't see a bad flames team and when that team rebounds this coming year with mostly guys that brad true living i almost called him jim rebounds and and plays well with mostly guys brad's team that he brought in i mean it's gonna it's gonna look good on him don't you think it's too much this team is brad's team i think it's important to note with the calgary flames missing the playoffs this past year that it was odd yeah it's a story if they got a little bit better goaltending fucking for like not even for any amount of time a couple overtime games three games even that if they just
Starting point is 00:32:52 get a little bit better goaltending they're in the playoff yes so and maybe bradshaw living people like yeah why did they sign markstrom well he had come off the most unbelievable run with the van vancouver canucks he was so good that he convinced canucks ownership and management that they were good and they weren't well and then and then he uh he goes to calgary has a bad year it has an incredible regular season last year and or sorry two years ago and now bad and then another bad season the okay what would you rather be well this is a tough one 38 27 and 17 with 93 points or 42 32 and 8 with 92 points i guess the question comes down to what is the bigger number 93 or 92 93 would be the bigger number yeah well that's the amount of points the flames have
Starting point is 00:33:39 the panthers had 92 that's right isn't that fucked it's fucked that's not fair so i'm ready and i'm ready for a fresh set of eyes because it makes things exciting like i know i knew with kyle dubas you're always going to get something like a real spicy trade he always had a spicy trade that divided people so like really convoluted yeah oh 100 there's like 40 different teams involved and i actually really like that because they're fun to break down but like the matt murray trade whoa did that divide people cody there were people out there going matt murray's actually great and he did play pretty well when he actually plays it's just his body's breaking down did you like when he gaslighted you into cody ccb no i didn't and
Starting point is 00:34:16 people got mad at me and were like oh you're one of those anti-dubus people no but kyle cody cc stunk anti-missing the net by 30 feet i'm also anti him playing on the top line with morgan riley the entire year people are like well he went to edmonton and he's much better yeah because he's playing every team's third and fourth line i'm pro defenseman who can pivot like what what are you talking about the least played him in a completely wrong way and they trusted their analytics and i'm sorry they were wrong that's okay it's okay to be wrong but you know what they were right about david kampf and they were right about um michael bunting and they were right about tj brody when they signed him what a great deal that's turned out to be like there's there's lots
Starting point is 00:34:54 of stuff they were right about brad true living does not think the leaf suck no i think that's very important here you know what i mean why do you think that's important i think that's an interesting point because he's not he's not going to make wholesale changes it's just it's just as you put it a different set of eyes he talked about like dubas evolved as well right and that's why this team you know brad was talking about the improvements that they made they were improvements made through the adjustments of dubas like so you're welcome friggin pittsburgh for getting a more finished product than the leaf scott you know so nice that he got an internship here and now he gets the actual full-time gig in pittsburgh it feels like he left being a general manager as
Starting point is 00:35:37 soon as he figured it out which is annoying it's like when at the end of me writing a book i was like well now i know how to write a book which would have come in handy when i was writing this fucking thing maybe you should write another one maybe i should it's like when your ex gets back to you and goes you know what you write about all those things and i'm doing all those things now and you're like you son of a they have a better relationship now yeah they're like i'm really happy now thanks appreciate it i did go to therapy yeah welcome for free i actually okay i remember the one that one really got me and this is so stupid and trivial but i remember i had an ex-girlfriend and she i my mom when i grew up you know obviously my mom and i actually went
Starting point is 00:36:14 to hockey games and stuff together and football games my mom's very sports oriented but she's also very musically inclined so i used to go to musicals all the time i used to go to like it's theater and stage shows and steve and i were in a play together and you know we're um but we used to go downtown all the time to like the ed mervish whatever and she wanted me to have some culture there right so there is a a particular musical about the four seasons frankie valley and the four seasons it's a fantastic uh musical i forget what it's called and i had a girlfriend and i was like you've got to go she's like she's like no i will not go to that i will never go to a musical i think they're so stupid i would never go to that anyway uh years later for some reason
Starting point is 00:36:53 we were talking but not in like any sort of way that we're going to read it she's like by the way i want to apologize to you and here's how she put it she's like i'm sorry i was such a cow about that musical because i ended up seeing it it was fantastic how old were you i was 22 and i think she was like 26 when she messaged me this but oh come on it was funny though right you know it happens um i want to know i want to know what you guys um like are you one of those people that is yep going to judge um sure when you elect yes when you elect a president they always talk about the president's first hundred days right what are you gonna do in the first hundred days why do we do that to set the to set the stage for the rest of this presidency if you don't get something big
Starting point is 00:37:38 done in the first hundred days it's a completely artificial construct only made up by the americans but that's what they do if you don't get that done that holy shit throw it in the trash start another election call him sleepy joe call him sleepy joe yeah yeah i uh i'm wondering do you feel like whatever the fuck are you going to have that sort of idea here because there are actually a lot of events coming up that that could set the tone for this are you going to judge based on what you see in the next day playoffs it's the playoffs i mean so you're judging jesse interesting you say that before you answer sure jesse is judging results only yeah no i feel like judging results only when when was kyle when was that infamous thursday that brendan shanahan took the gardener
Starting point is 00:38:23 home like it was a monday to the monday three weeks three no but that's when we found out oh yeah yeah that thursday and into that friday um that was like three weeks ago right i feel like from that three weeks to now i've been through like the the eight stages of grief you know and like i'm in i'm at the acceptance point where it's like okay all that happened it sucked at the time now it's you you kind of have perspective on it you're like okay maybe a new set of eyes is good brendan shanahan's clearly more involved than we all thought and he's actually a decision maker so what but he said he wasn't the guy with all the power said he doesn't wield that power Consistently and all the time.
Starting point is 00:39:03 The guy who's the guy's boss. Don't you believe him, blankly? No, I don't, you know. So, Brennan Shanahan, he does nothing but twiddle his thumbs all day and has no involvement in the hockey organization, apparently. But now it's at a point of acceptance. And let's see how this goes. Let's see them play out a season.
Starting point is 00:39:20 Let's see the roster they come with on opening day. Let's see how they handle the trades at the draft and free agency. And then we'll get to the end of next year and into the playoffs, hopefully. and we can have some sort of judgment here on Trill Living and Shanahan's tandem and how they do you know we're in the wait and see era where we were with Dubas and waiting out this year
Starting point is 00:39:40 it's gonna be a fun fucking 12 month it is I mean I'm so excited I actually really pumped because this this is gonna be the for the first time since since really since Dave known us we're gonna have a full different view of things Lou was a huge change
Starting point is 00:39:58 but like this is like but then it was like it was lou but kyle was there and then kyle underneath you know and then once lou left it was the organization has been on this track for a bit i'm excited for them but don't get like twisted like they need a win it's still win mode for the least like we're not in rebuild like they have they have too many stars it's so hard to get good players he doesn't get the benefit of the doubt is what you're saying no no there's no hey you get three years to rebuild or anything like that you have stars right now and it's hard requires stars to do something with these stars and go out and win something please mr trill i think it's important to mention he didn't win anything in calgary didn't win shit no so and
Starting point is 00:40:34 didn't do great in the playoffs no you know this is this is going to be his legacy definer as well how he does here you know like it's funny a lot of people in the leafs organization seem to be hot commodities um want to say that was platinum seat ghost who put that out there on he's right yeah for an organization that sucks and is bad and stinks according to everyone gosh everyone sure seems to want everybody in this organization can we interview brandon pridham we're gonna take kyle dubas and give him a promotion spencer carvery uh carberry we're gonna take him and give him a promotion yep player on waivers we're gonna take that person yep oh yeah we're your fourth liner we're gonna put him on the first line like it it's very interesting that that
Starting point is 00:41:19 keeps happening i'm i'm just excited for the first time dubas trades down at the draft this year i i'm excited for penguins fans to know really what that's like i uh i was thinking about making a video with uh or for penguins fans because i mean dubas was tremendously predictable yes we got great at it didn't we yep the the when i said jake mccabe and sam lafferty in the same deal and then they got ryan o'reilly and we're like oh well i guess that's out and then he got sam lafferty and jake mccabe in the same deal and every year you can guarantee he's going to trade down to the draft to get more picks yep i wonder how i can't wait how many members of the chicago steel are are gonna go to the pittsburgh penguins say your phone to chicago steel i just realized
Starting point is 00:42:14 something what okay so there's there's two organizations dubas loves more than any in the world that's the pittsburgh penguins or sorry well now it's the pittsburgh penguins sorry it's the susie marie greyhounds and the chicago steel of the ushl there was a kid that drew and i producer drew uh we sat next to them at a restaurant in the airport on our way to the draft and it was very it was very clearly a family going to the draft because one of their kids was about to get drafted okay and so i jokingly looked over at the table i go so which one he was getting picked today and the kid raises his hand me i go what's your name he goes zam plant and he played for the chicago steel okay and i was like i wonder if the leaves get him they did
Starting point is 00:43:00 get someone from the chicago steel just not zam plant you know who did get zam plant who the penguins that's the only reason kyle signed there so because of zam plant i i do you have anything else that you got a long walk for a short drink of water before this show steve tried to make it made a joke you have this drink um uh steve tried to make a joke before this show and jesse said to him you're gonna have to try harder if you want me to laugh and i thought that was funny and don't we it was a bad one too don't we feel like maybe that was like that too it was like a really bad pun yeah it didn't work i forget what i think penguins fans who know who zam plant is we're very excited by that story so so i he has brothers too do you want to know about his brothers he has
Starting point is 00:43:46 brothers too did you meet them at the draft i met them at the restaurant and then at the draft at another restaurant what was this the weather like that day hot it was june what pants were you wearing what time i wasn't wearing pants it was hot in june so i says to him i said wearing short Did you set your pocket watch to the right time? No. I had breakfast with Colby Armstrong. He eats a lot. He's a former NHL player.
Starting point is 00:44:11 Okay. Can we... No. You guys have anything else you want to add about Bradshaw Living? Okay. You want to move on? I don't think we're putting enough stock in the fact that that kid's name is Zam. It's a good name.
Starting point is 00:44:20 With a Zed. I like it. Go on. The most quotable moment from Kyle Dubas' press conference in Pittsburgh yesterday is the following and steve has not heard this yet because steve wanted to save it for the show so i want to get a steve fr or a dubious fr dfr on this dfr steven do not look at jesse's screen take your freaking glasses off don't you dare wanted me to no i'm gonna read it out to you and you're gonna have to listen i heard a lot i'm not gonna get to hear him say it i mean no i'm
Starting point is 00:44:55 going to say it to you that's no can you say it charming and like a youth pastor dubas dubas was optimistic and this is according to a sportsman article about whether or not the pittsburgh's championship window was still currently open here's the quote i heard a lot of people that were highly skeptical of the team's ability to contend here and the way i view it is if people want to bet against mike sullivan sydney crosby evgeny malkin chris letang and others they can go ahead and do so but i'm going to be i'm going to bet on them and uh and i'm going to go with them there i do think this group is capable of contending to win a championship i mean now he does continue to go on but i want to stop you there did kyle dubas we can and we will himself
Starting point is 00:45:46 because a little bit because what if he fires or trades any of those people so now he's committed to not firing or trading any of those people right which listen i think in a vacuum all of those players are good but i think the problem is that that chris letang had a stroke last year we're worried about chris letang's long-term health and honestly it's amazing that he's still playing because it wasn't even his first one people people have been worried about chris letang's long-term health since 2008 like he has had crazy injuries that he's come back from so you don't bet against chris letang to come back he's won three cups since then exactly uh evgeny malkin missed most of last year misses half of every season and in the half he does play
Starting point is 00:46:32 he's one of the best players in the world i don't think anybody's questioning sit no he's had some crazy injuries but he's been amazing um and you wanna do you want kyle to say it oh yeah okay We can have Kyle say it. Okay, Kyle. That was a good impression. Thank you. Kyle! Through the course of this process,
Starting point is 00:46:52 I had the chance to speak with Coach Sullivan and Sidney Crosby. I thought that those were very important people for me to get a real deep sense of where they felt the organization was at and where it would be going so that I knew coming in where they felt the Penguins were at and what they felt the Penguins would need for somebody in this role. those conversations, a number of conversations with Coach Sullivan, but also the conversation with Sid were paramount in my decision to come here. They're some of the best competitors
Starting point is 00:47:24 in hockey. Obviously, Mike Sullivan's record as a coach and Sidney's as a player speak for themselves. And that is one of the most exciting parts about coming here to Pittsburgh to work with the people that are up with me here, but also every single day on the hockey operation side. i see this task ahead of us as a two-pronged effort in the short run it's continuing to make decisions that are going to allow the team to be competitive while the core group of players that have led the team here to championships in the past continue to perform at the levels that they have for as long as they can and make decisions that will support them in the lineup every night that will allow the team to continue to contend each season while those players are with us
Starting point is 00:48:12 At the same time, the work will also begin at delivering a long-term hockey organization that can be the class of the NHL and to reduce any gap in time that there otherwise would be from the end of those great players' careers to the next era of great hockey for the Pittsburgh Penguins. That's our intention, and that's the work that we'll get started on as soon as we wrap up here. And we're very, very honored to be here and join the city of Pittsburgh and the Pittsburgh Penguins. I don't believe for sorry I don't I don't not believe for a second I'm fully confident that Kyle Dubas is going to be able to put together the second half of that he is going to be able to create an organization top down right into the into the minor I don't know I don't want to call
Starting point is 00:48:55 the minor leagues but the professional leagues below the NHL he's going to be able to do that I can tell you Penguins fans he will absolutely be able to do that yeah and he said I'll read it again if you want to bet against Mike Sullivan Sidney Crosby Evgeny Malkin Chris Letang and others uh they can go ahead and do that see i wouldn't bet against any of those guys i would bet against them together and it's not mike sullivan and it's not sydney crosby i bet but i really have a hard time guys and i understand this is what kyle dubas does right he's really good at nibbling around the edges that's all he could do in toronto once he signed tavaris he couldn't really do much else but he has a monumental task and i want to bring up jesse
Starting point is 00:49:34 if you can the pittsburgh penguins cat friendly page sure to try to even augment the depth and get rid of all the horrendous deals that were signed over the last two administrations and then on top of that cross your fucking fingers that everybody over 35 can keep it together this is i to me i think he put himself in a position again and i know that he's a bold man And I respect that where there's less criticism in Pittsburgh, but you didn't have to say, you didn't have to say that you could say, you know what?
Starting point is 00:50:07 They're great players. Our job is to win the Stanley cup in this organization. And we're going to do everything we can to do that. A great nothing answer that remains true and that everybody could understand. That was boy. Was that not shades of Lou? There,
Starting point is 00:50:22 there was a little bit of Lutelidge, but he's like, no, we're getting Lutelidge, but we got it. No, we got to keep the band together. Do you?
Starting point is 00:50:29 Cause I don't think you can. I mean, he committed to not rebuilding kind of right now. And I just built, you don't think that's fair. No, I don't. I don't think he's going to try.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Okay. Listen, I'll put my balls on the line right now. And you can, if they win the cup next year or the year after, or the year after that, with these three guys, you can quote it back to look at it,
Starting point is 00:50:51 look into the camera. They're not going to win with these three guys. Mike Sullivan's a great coach. Sidney Crosby's a great player. Evgeny Malkin's a great player. Chris Letang's a great player. These four, with the three of them being players, I don't think can win the cup together again.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Listen. I think Crosby can win. I think Malkin can win. And I think Letang can win. But I don't think they're going to win if it rests on the three of them to be the best. Adam. I saw the Instagram post about your vasectomy.
Starting point is 00:51:21 Yes. Your balls have been through enough. Snip, snap. Yes, that's enough. you putting your balls on the line that's enough well there's nothing left that's why i can put them on the line you weren't cast i know i'm joking the joke okay i'm just saying listen i understand i i love kyle but i just want to take him aside and go dude i don't know if that's how you didn't need to say that you didn't need to say that you that doesn't need to be the case
Starting point is 00:51:48 and listen i love sydney crosby as much as the next guy but i would probably sit him down and say listen Sid we could retool in a couple years here and be really great he'll be 37 yeah he doesn't have time for that okay he'll be 38 actually two Sidney Crosby has two years left on his contract they asked Kyle actually um if he talked to Sid in their meeting about the next deal and he said no I didn't ask Sidney about that because the future is uncertain for a 37 year old hockey player who knows if Sidney Crosby plays a game in the NHL after this deal expires here he has to be trying to win for at least the next two years and i don't blame kyle for trying to win with this core pens fans watch me work jesse can you pull up their draft picks
Starting point is 00:52:31 like on the cat friendly page oh they got a first lovely say bye to that he's trading that down they also pens fans are used to that yeah no they don't have their second or their own third so they're trading that first they're going to trade down and he's going to try to get as many picks as possible he's going to try to do it with the devil's third as well on account of you don't have a fourth uh and he has a leafs draft pick in the seventh round that's nice um i wouldn't be surprised to see him uh either try to accumulate a pick for this year or like he's going to do some sort of trade where he swaps exact picks for the next year like whether it's like a later round pick do you know what i mean like he'll trade this year's fifth for example um in order to get a pick
Starting point is 00:53:24 next year from someone okay but do you think they can win the championship no no no no i wasn't fucking he wasn't done so he's gonna take those extra picks that he's gonna accumulate and he's going to throw some of them out the door in order to get new guys to help this team win because he does have a little bit of cap space to work with so one thing he's really good at is signing these short-term non-committal contracts with good players who once they're done those contracts are going to move on somewhere else because they're going to be too expensive so for the next two years he has to accumulate those players honestly michael bunting is a pretty good fit in pittsburgh i'm not gonna lie i think yeah he would but you gotta drop how do you drop
Starting point is 00:54:15 uh how do you drop some of those contracts let's go through some of them well jeff carter you need to send a space uh uh we like jake genzel at you know one more year at six million yeah do we like brian rust for five more years at 5.125 oh boy he's a good player but oh boy do we like michael grandlin at two more years at five million each absolutely not do we like ricard raquel at five more years at five million dollars each that's jeff it's a long time yeah you mentioned player but that's a long time you mentioned jeff carter uh jeff carter makes 3.125 you uh we're you're gonna struggle to get rid of that you do have a kneelander on staff alex alex kneelander you've got ryan paling and drew o'connor who are rfas josh archibald nick benino danton heinen and
Starting point is 00:55:06 jason zucker are all ufas doubt any of them really resign i think he's gonna steal half the marlies okay uh do you like jeff petrie at 6.25 for two more years and i like jeff petrie i do but like they're given again he's 35 they're given over 12 million dollars to petrie and letang uh it's tough marcus petterson at uh at 4.025 i don't mind we fought over this i yeah i like that i like marcus petterson yan ruda noted alan walsh client 2.75 i mean he's good then then he's good uh and then you've got uh pierre olivia joseph and chad uh rue edel who are both um making about 800 grand uh dumoulin and kulikov are both ufas i think i think we're wasting our time Casey DeSmith and Tristan Jari.
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yeah, you need a save. You need a fucking save. And they'll be in the playoffs if they get a save. No question. This is a playoff team. Yeah, trade Casey DeSmith. Trading Casey DeSmith is easier to do if you have a goalie and Tristan Jari is not locked up.
Starting point is 00:56:12 And I kind of don't know if you should. I think he's going to be too expensive for a goalie of his quality. He has strangely bad games. So, I don't know where you're going to get a goalie out of. I mean, I don't even know what goalies are available. Somebody tweeted yesterday. They're like, honestly, Dubas should just offer Sheet Samson off. So, whenever a younger forward-thinking executive gets hired to any NHL team,
Starting point is 00:56:44 the conversation comes up. So, are they going to be the one to offer Sheet everybody? Now, no one offers Sheet to anyone. So, I wouldn't bet on it. Dubas doesn't even offer Sheet people. that's true like everything oh maybe he'll he'll start doing a thing that he's never done right who is he ever offer sheeted one name one nobody nobody but samsonov would be a good candidate okay the problem is i don't think pittsburgh has the picks okay they don't call
Starting point is 00:57:11 them pittsburgh you see because right they haven't called them pittsburgh for quite some time uh they need to save um now you could try to kill two birds with one stone okay and guess where i'm going with this everybody it's been a few months they need to dump contracts and they need a goalie corral vomelka baby oh corral vomelka with the wherever the fuck they play coyotes try to pry him out of there you keep talking you're but you're beating the corral vomelka drum as though i think the coyotes value him man i think they like him no they they're wrong to value him why because the arizona coyotes don't value winning not yet or competing in any way shape or form getting an arena yeah no so get rid of the melka stop this stop this illusion okay
Starting point is 00:58:01 that's enough what do you who are you selling this product to the masses no one can fit in your fucking building trade the good goalie get a bunch of shit and move on you want some ufa goalies who might be good options for fitzberg do it martin jones elia samson off rfa tristan jari ufa they just bring him back rfa swayman what what amount what cap hit is jari coming off 3.5 million dollars if he agrees to come back at that you do it but i think he's gonna get four or five at least dubas said in the press conference when asked specifically about tristan jari he said that we're going to take a look at the free agent goalies and jari including that and if jari is the best option to bring back then that's what we're going to do
Starting point is 00:58:53 so he addressed it specifically in his press conference but that was the answer frederick anders anderson get the band back together wants that anymore anti-ranta maybe corpus allo cam talbot jonathan quick aiden hill james reimer brian elliott varlamov halak blackwood's an rfa client then we go down the list alex lion Oh, there's goalies. Laurent Boissois. Connor Ingram. Greatest goalie of all time.
Starting point is 00:59:24 Anthony Stolarz. Nedeljkovic. There's a decent crop. Oh, that Ned contract's up. Right. There's a decent crop of goalies. Yeah. At least not like studs, but hey, we can take a flyer on that.
Starting point is 00:59:39 Yeah. You know, for a couple mil. They need a save. Yep. To me, I think that should be priority number one. Like, the team has flaws. you need the biggest flaws you need to save and also you're too old i don't know you need to save i think i think kyle put him in his self in a position where he just doesn't need to do that
Starting point is 01:00:00 you just don't need to do that don't need to do oh to commit yeah because these guys that we're talking about that he could trade have no value i think it was done for him yeah that's why he's not trading them because they have no value no no no the guys the core three do i'm not saying i am not suggesting you trade with sydney crosby not for a moment and do you want me to save this as a hot key so you can bring it up all season long what's that with the heart i heard a lot of people that were uh highly skeptical of of the team's ability to contend here and um the way i view it is that if people want to bet against mike sullivan sydney crosby evgeny malkin chris letang and others they can go ahead and do so but i'm going to bet on them and and go with them here
Starting point is 01:00:43 his core four you only play that Kyle Dubas and the core four right again just the part but I'm gonna bet on them every time the pens lose we come back on the show but I'm gonna bet on them but I'm gonna bet on them and I'm gonna bet on them you can bet that with Kyle Dubas only this time he's the president are you Sid Sixero Kyle Dubas fraud no I I don't think that I actually am a big fan I just think he's like man you stepped out of Toronto and what did you get an older core four i mean like i'm sorry that's a dark way to look at nothing wrong with me saying that there and i know penguins fans will be mad because you're in love with these guys and i totally freaking get it because they they they want you three cups no there will be some penguins
Starting point is 01:01:27 fans that are upset and then and then there'll be penguins fans that are great yeah there's so many people there's a lot of people there's lots of people who think lots of things there's so many people who think everything can i just say this you can't you can't tell me that that optically that was a good idea no matter what they do the chances are listen for every general manager chances are you're not going to win the cup so why would you why are you tying yourself to shit you know but he's not he didn't say he didn't go out and guarantee him to win the stanley cup again with city grosby he just said i'm gonna keep i'm gonna bet on him i'm gonna keep this court together for two years it's all he said oh because that's that's the length of sydney
Starting point is 01:02:04 crosby's contract that's all you're you're tied down to and i think that's fair and in two years the media is going to say hey man yeah so you bet on them and he'll be like yeah i did and they and and they don't win he'll be like but now i'm going to bet on this and people will be like okay cool well i won't even question it no no you're betting on it then sit there and tap his well actually four and five cup rings on the table yeah you know what i like the thing is it with kyle like i'm a huge fan i hope he does well like i'm not saying i just i don't know i thought that was beyond the pale didn't you learn your lessons on 32 i i know what you mean i am here's what i'm excited for uh it's dubious with a fresh palette not really someone else's old
Starting point is 01:02:43 palette he's tied down this painting has been painted for a while it's 20 20 million caps he's gonna have to take a an old a bad tattoo and correct it there are talented artists out there who can do that we'll see what he's and by the way what are you talking about no your tattoos are amazing i i uh your artist by the way can you shout them out again livian saying amazing uh i like really genuinely great tattoos but i i want to i do want to say that i do think the rest of the stuff that he promised in the press conference is completely doable and you see it in toronto here he's gonna restock the cupboard he's gonna trade his first pick down for two seconds and that's actually really great in the end because he's very good at selecting in the second round
Starting point is 01:03:21 and beyond um there's so many things that he's going to be able to bring to this organization that it does not have because it is just that if you can describe the pittsburgh penguins as anything it's thin they are thin they are thin on talent beyond those three players uh beyond that head coach uh in their you know they they need they need new prospects they need draft picks and they need to kind of they need to liven that up a little bit you know what i mean jesse what how many right-handed defensemen do they have i'm not i just i just want to know where are you i just want to know how many right-handed defensemen they have on their roster uh give me one second i know petrie is one latang is the
Starting point is 01:04:01 other you got petrie latang jan ruda is listed as left slash right uh rue weedle can play the right yeah ruda kulikov is left chad rue weedle right chad rue not gonna work here anymore he's going to sign justin hall you are a pittsburgh penguin he's going to come in i just want to know how many former leafs are going to be on next year's penguins team huh if my money is what's the over under on that oh we should get dave on that opening day roster how many people who have played at least one game for the toronto maple leafs are on the pittsburgh penguins i'll do one better we'll do a least one and a sue saint marie one okay okay so how many sue saint marie former sue saint marie greyhounds play for the penguins next year interesting don't you that'll
Starting point is 01:04:58 be fun wouldn't it yes i mean there was clearly a connection i think that'd be fun i wonder if they get martin moranson back maybe maybe we'll see marty bring marty back marv um in the uh in the uh in the dangles doozy section by the way you go to sports interaction.com slash sdpn or you download the app 19 plus please play responsibly we have some really great sports interaction stanley cup final props okay so um i want to go through some of the some of these with you so what do you think the chances are matthew kachuk getting uh and would you take this bet matthew kachuk getting a point in every game of the finals is that a yes or a no for you because the yes is a seven the no is a 104 uh 107 yeah i'm yeah that's a tough one for me i would
Starting point is 01:05:50 say no just because even the best player in the series that's such a hard thing to do okay and also he's gonna have to get a point in all four games um i like this prop martha stewart and snoop dog at a vegas home game and they must appear together if you take a yes on this it's a 101 payout so 100 no is there is no no it's just if you take this back a hundred to one a hundred to one yes it's a hundred to one so you bet a dollar you got a hundred bucks that's right yeah where is what is she doing right now from martha hi she was on sports jersey city new jersey not a nutley new jersey new jersey you
Starting point is 01:06:40 have a nutley okay how about this uh the stanley cup finals um any game goes to two overtimes like double overtime do you take a yes or no on that yes jess yes that's a six six to one yeah And then they know as a 1-0-9. Both teams, I'm pretty sure, have been due multi-OTs. I'm not sure about Vegas. We've never seen this happen before, but could Chuck and Bobrovsky share the Consummate Trophy? A yes at 50-1.
Starting point is 01:07:10 It's enticing, but I'm going to take no. Okay. All right. And then last one, and we talked about this on our little Sports Interaction Preview. The first player to receive the Stanley Cup after Bettman presents it to the winning captain. So it can't be the winning captain.
Starting point is 01:07:23 You have to pick the player from the team that you believe will win. who do you go with i got mine jesse go marshy jonathan marsh so and that's a six to one that's pretty good i still say uh jesse why do you say marshy by the way uh i it was my logic is i'm gonna go with one of the og vegas golden knights one of the i think six five five five guys who are still there from the first cup run uh so captain will get it and then i think they either go to uh marshy or william carlson so i just pick between those two are my options and i just slightly lean toward marshy uh sasha barkov takes the cup and gives it to eric stall who gives
Starting point is 01:08:08 it to his brother mark so i'm gonna say eric stall hmm eric stall now that one has a cup right he does have a cup yeah does mark stall no he's been to the final so mark stall pays a 13 to one eric stall pays a 26 to 1 oh yeah that's two dollars steve right there is it yeah oh yeah you're all over that yeah okay so these are just some of the ones that you can get to um before um before the stanley cup finals start tomorrow so it's 52 bucks yeah on two dollars yeah okay two dollars two dollars two dollars wow uh so anyway i wanted you to just check all that out now dave will be back on monday we'll have more and more but just check out the sports interaction dot com dangles doozy section sports interaction dot com slash sdpn download the app
Starting point is 01:08:58 90 plus please be responsible jesse they should have called this the nazim qadri memorial bet there is also a bet just to close it off a suspension will be handed down you can oh oh i like that 3.5 to 1 that somebody will get suspended they should have called it the uh michael bunting nazim qadri memorial trophy cup final when was the last suspension in the cup final that actually got them suspended for cup final games because i think steve bernier might have been suspended but that was the last game of the season he didn't miss any games it might have been aaron rome in 2011 when he got four four whoa games for what he drilled the fuck out of nathan horton wow it's been a while uh is that the one that no the last one was uh
Starting point is 01:09:48 oscar sunquist oscar sunquist got suspended yeah he was uh the san luis blues ford was disciplined for boarding boston bruins defenseman matt grizlik in game two of the san lincoln final on wednesday and will not play in game three sunquist suspended out for blues game three cup final wow so pre-covid yes it doesn't happen very often wow although these teams are this is going to be a violent cup final these are two teams that get away with murder like i've been watching them and like not just leaf games dude vegas has got away with murder all playoffs the panthers have got away with murder they're gonna let them both get away with this and they're all gonna get away with murder that is no worse than usual whoever murders harder worse than usual i'm
Starting point is 01:10:33 actually really every team i'm really excited for this i think this this could be one of the most fun stanley cup finals you ever see we should go oh yeah neither yeah we should go to vegas let's go to vegas quick trip in quick trip to vegas yeah good they like shit i can actually do stuff like that now get the boys together yeah we hit we we go into vegas to smash that like button we should go do a little vlog on the way let's do it uh oh man i would totally do that that would be fun okay well anyway i i think that these two teams are are this is the first time in a while that you've had like um first off nobody's won the cup before so there's no perennial and the the lightning have been the perennial for a while also there's no like defensive stalwart team oh
Starting point is 01:11:17 we defended our way to the finals here i like the fact like they're both good at defense but really brobrovsky is their defense for florida and vegas could be smothering but yeah it's not like they were like you know in dallas in 2020 we can't score but we're going to we're gonna win right right that's what i'm saying like the like dallas was an extreme example of both islanders teams that went to the conference against tampa fuck this is gonna be really fun and i i i i said it on the other show and and uh people like well it's not gonna break ratings records who gives a shit if the hockey's good i guarantee you it will do better and i think i think there is for the first time i can really say this i do feel like there is a bit of a buzz around around hockey is like
Starting point is 01:12:00 and i do feel like it is growing i do feel like um something like this especially with miami because sunrise yeah okay fine sunrise it's miami and and las vegas yeah you're telling me you can't win some fans over you can't make this fun i think you can't i think you're entirely right in that the stanley cup finals feels a little bit more buzzy and i think it it's because we have two really fun fan bases yes i think these two fan bases are making the stanley cup finals a lot of fun by the amount of interaction they have amount they care about this like it's two great markets for hockey which are unexpected great markets for hockey to be honest but um it feels like it's gonna be a really fun stanley cup final i'm gonna say something very key what's that all
Starting point is 01:12:43 the media covering this final are jacked yes oh they're having a good time florida and vegas you're you're a hockey reporter you wait all season for the big celebration the end of the year just hoping like oh we could do something fun you know we'll see where we go you get vegas and miami yeah fuck yeah oh yeah yeah oh yeah that's gonna be cool and then after that you go from you're going back and forth vegas south beach you know blah blah then you get to go to nashville oh what a trifecta for hockey reporters this is gonna be the best month of like some reporters careers yeah that's such a good point yeah vegas florida and nashville i don't know damn unreal that's a good month you know hockey reporters everybody says you know they never get anything
Starting point is 01:13:32 they got no breaks in life well i mean that no cj is always the ones like no we work in the candy yeah don't listen to that all they do is have fun all day i don't know if they have fun all day um yeah i'm i'm i think this is gonna be a fun stanley cup final i can't wait to start talking about hockey games again and i'm really gonna enjoy this because this is the last time for over the next week week and a half this will be the last time we get to talk about real live hockey games in the nhl at least uh until october and i miss them and i love the summer but i miss the hockey it could be a very jam-packed month so the last day of the cup final or the last possible day of the cup final if it goes seven is june 19th and then it's gonna be okay clean
Starting point is 01:14:17 up the confetti and fucking awards and free agency and blah yep i got an outstanding i got two bets on the uh trophies this i'm waiting for like awards day to get what do you have what do you have i got a maddie benears uh for calder trove oh that's an easy i took that yeah but you got to take it early when did you take it i took it i think in january oh good pick okay okay it's about three to one it's a pretty good payout um and then i also have jimmy monty burns for the jack adams wow really hopefully yeah you don't mean wait what odds did you get him at i got jim montgomery at 3.86 to 1 so almost four times whatever you put down that's congrats on your money and then i got maddie benears at 3.3 to 1
Starting point is 01:15:07 i think you won that too damn yeah you did i got two good paydays you need the win too yeah i can see how much you got left yeah you need to win i do need the win yeah but the uh so that awards monday will be fun and then uh draft or is the awards tuesday and then draft is wednesday and then day two is thursday it's gonna be a fun little week there right after the final i like that like that very much um all right so uh i don't know if we want to include this in the in the press conference um uh or if you want to get oh the steve dangle press conference okay sdp 10 oh go to sdp on shop.ca get your awesome merch uh hashtag sdp ten a lot of people
Starting point is 01:16:06 were saying you missed like sdpx because it would have been 10 or x sdp or whatever no we chose to go with the worst imaginable hashtag i know that our social media team justin uh jamie and robert were all complaining about it uh as we knew they would and i think the only person who's really enjoying this is jesse yeah like well you guys are having fun about this is the worst celebration hashtag oh you know what i did forget to do something about the florida panthers stanley final thing we can come back to it unless you want to i wanted to talk about the the placements the uh have you seen the ad placements yeah sorry it's a bit odd yeah do you mind if we do it yeah can i throw it to you let's go all right here we go boom okay i want to see this first before we
Starting point is 01:16:50 get to the sdp 10 steve we can't here's the thing about ads what do you know about ads they are ads And they pay for things. They pay for things. Now, the Stanley Cup Final. When you get to the Stanley Cup Final, what do you get? A patch. Now, what's the patch about? What does it say?
Starting point is 01:17:10 Stanley Cup Final. What does it advertise? The Stanley Cup Final. Right. Now, if you were an advertiser, wouldn't you love to have your patch above a Stanley Cup Final patch? Yes. Now, wouldn't you love that?
Starting point is 01:17:25 The NHL doesn't love that, though. the nhl thinks you know what i don't want that ad too close to that stanley cup because they didn't pay for the stanley cup finals to be close to the stanley cup on this jersey patch when they did it so we're gonna take that patch that stanley cup final patch and we're gonna move if that player has a letter we're moving it over sorry get out of the way we're crowding you together that looks like ass it does look like shit i feel like the the the way to do this would have that have the is it AutoNation that they have that is their pack? Yeah, AutoNation. Have AutoNation
Starting point is 01:17:58 above the Stanley Cup or below. Visually, just looking at it, is that not the obvious choice? It honestly looks like you've got too many kids crammed in the backseat right now. You know what I mean? Like when you have too many people crammed in your minivan, that's what it looks like. It's a
Starting point is 01:18:14 mess. When you ask the cab driver, like, would you take one more? We'll tip. Yes. And they say no. Yes. And so you walk. mm-hmm yeah haven't done that in many a year so i i what did you think about this because this was a thing it looks dumb i think it looks dumb like it's funny so i wasn't one of those people who was super against ads on jerseys and then you have the people who are way over the top on the side of no the jerseys are gonna look how they do in europe which is ridiculous because those jerseys
Starting point is 01:18:49 have like 12 ads on them zero hyperbole that's how it starts like you added one extra patch you know what i mean there's the there's the letter there's the ad that wouldn't look so bad but something about cramming the cup patch next to the a it looks like shit man here's my it does look like shit here's my question why does it have to be one or the other what do you mean well i don't mind jersey patches because i think these teams want listen if you're a fan of the cap going up then you shouldn't mind jersey patch patches uh and i am and we knew this was coming it's happening there it's here we can't fight it okay it's not going to look like all the the european teams that have 40 different patches on them because these are nhl teams it's expensive real
Starting point is 01:19:34 estate and those those jersey patched up teams are in leagues that need the sponsorship need to sell that sponsorship i get it um the nhl just cannot not be stupid okay like here's what happened guys looking at that jersey what do you really think happened here because i'll tell you what i think i think the nhl didn't think about it i think that they didn't even consider it and then we got to two weeks ago and they were like you know we never thought about and then we ended up where we're gonna put it no i i think the advertiser thought uh no we want our own spot no we put the crowd on the other side i can guarantee you people are blaming the advertiser it's not the advertiser the nhl wants you you can't even say stanley cup finals
Starting point is 01:20:31 uh in a promotional sense we can say it in a news sense because we're on a news thing but it's like the super bowl you can't say super bowl in any sort of promo tickets to the big game remember when you watch the big game oh the olympics yeah like like if we were doing if we were doing a promotion with say one of our clients skip the dishes if we're like hey if you want to watch the stanley cup final uh and get some wings with skip the dishes use this promo code we'd actually have to say if you want to watch the big series we can't say stanley cup finals unless skip the dishes is an official partner of the nhl that's how that works cumbersome so the nhl is like hey auto nation may have bought the panthers patch but they didn't buy the stanley cup patch
Starting point is 01:21:10 and i don't want a bunch of pictures with auto nation and then the stanley cup silver mug underneath it and what the nhl should have done there's a couple routes they could have gone sell the jersey patches for the regular season only and then playoffs you have a separate contract where you have the ability to opt out if you want to or uh you have the ability to stay on and that means you have to pay the fee potentially if the team wins the cup. Easy solution. Take off the cup patch
Starting point is 01:21:41 and make the ad three times bigger. It's what the people want. I'm serious. It's what they want. All they had to do was divide up the regular season and the playoffs in the contracts. Trust me, we do advertising for a living here.
Starting point is 01:21:53 All you have to do is have a playoff contract and a regular season contract. You have the jersey patch and if AutoNation goes, you know what? the Boston Bruins and the Panthers
Starting point is 01:22:04 I think the Panthers are going to win I think we're going to pay for that and yes we will agree to be a partner of the Stanley Cup final
Starting point is 01:22:12 if the Florida Panthers make it great then your jersey patch can stay on and you can pay more money and the NHL blew an opportunity
Starting point is 01:22:19 to make more money with the jersey patch which was the whole point of the jersey patch in the first place we're never going to know they did not think about this we're never going to know
Starting point is 01:22:28 no we know that is what happened Steve No, I want... That is what happened. I want the leaders to do a press conference where they tell us it's not what happened and we just believe them. I have no power, said Brendan Shannon.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I had no power, says Brendan Shannon. Slash Gary Bettman. The patches are good and everyone loves them. They screwed this up. They sold them as full season plus playoffs. You don't do that. You sell it as a regular season and then you upsell the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:22:53 That's what you do. And then you have a condition in the deal. If this team makes the playoffs, then X. then you pay x amount of dollars and if you don't want to pay it we'll strip them off and we'll have we'll go patchless we'll find somebody who will sponsor the penguins or penguins panthers come on this is right this is so like it's such when you say not a real league i i was i was doing my mom's um do my mom's show yesterday because my mom actually wrapped up her television show yesterday it's going to run next oprah win for oprah yeah atlantis's television show wrapped up
Starting point is 01:23:25 and one a person came up to me and he said hey i'm a new listener to this show he's a producer behind the scenes at bell media and he said i i said i i it was my brother that got me into you i'm actually a big fan of the canadians uh but he's like i really like the show and he said steve's point about not a real league he's like he's right eh he's like it's weird what's crazy about it is he looked at me he's like and they just they like just don't want to do anything about it no and and i look at stuff like this the nhl knows this jersey looks like shit they know the patch placement looks like shit and i bet next year they fix this but this is what happens when you don't plan this is what happens when you don't look at a game-changing thing like adding
Starting point is 01:24:09 for the first time ever adds to a jersey and going how could this affect our playoff no you How could this affect the rest of the season? You got to go to award shows and get awards for the board ads no one likes. You see that? I did see that. Yeah, they won an award for advertising and that. I just, I wanted to take a moment and point that out.
Starting point is 01:24:29 This is an easily fixable problem. I'm sure they'll have fixed by next year. But come on, guys. A little foresight sometime. But I guess maybe we shouldn't be surprised because the NHL and foresight are like oil and water. They're unbelievable. Adam.
Starting point is 01:24:43 i think you're too upset on on this the last day at your job yeah this the day of my daughter's wedding you're just too upset okay and but because you're so upset uh and i thought you might be we actually um we put together a compilation of some of your best moments maddie worked really bad take and bad take and bad take and i was just hoping that here maddie can you can you uh can you get it uh no no no no don't do it again no stop no you're doing it the wrong way turn it the other way oh steve we don't have a crew coming in to clean this weekend oh we don't know oh no now you're cleaning well here let's celebrate oh my god i what the fuck is wrong with you i thought it'd be funny i bought four of them do you know which confetti i found
Starting point is 01:25:51 in my freaking backpack yesterday you shouldn't have left it open i confetti in my shoes shouldn't have left it open oh my god that's awful i'll clean it up congrats man thanks you deserve it I appreciate it. After all those years doing radio, you deserve it. Thank you. Thank you. I do appreciate it. 16 years in radio.
Starting point is 01:26:08 It's a rough way. It's hilarious. Okay. Let's get into SDP 10. Jesse, what do you got for us? Jesse's so upset. He's mad. The jersey patches affect three players on the ice.
Starting point is 01:26:20 I'm still upset about it. They're the most important people on the ice. The other players don't have letters, so it doesn't look as bad. Okay. So, Jesse, what do we got? i got i got some on uh i got some on uh um let me let me read a couple from uh the discord okay i got some here too on twitter all right so i haven't just you're so upset i'm very upset oh where's the one i was looking for hold on give me a second
Starting point is 01:26:48 so yeah on our discord sdpn.ca to join us on discord uh in the sdp podcast talk channel there's a lot of great memories i'm gonna we're gonna go through a couple this is from jonas i first listened to the show with myrtles and metapods on september 4th 2014 and slow down listening last year i'd have to say my favorite moment is very biased but in february of 2015 i met steve on the train to toronto when he was going to record a podcast and i podcast and i to see ripley's aquarium so he was going to ripley's you're gonna record a podcast i mentioned i was a viewer of his and a new listener of the show i got a shout out that day but instead of a glad to have you adam sarcastically lambasted me for being a new viewer and not an old one did i he said why
Starting point is 01:27:42 haven't you been listening before you dick you asshole it was a very fond memory and one of the reasons i fell in love with the show so much and leaned on it seeing the guys come so far is amazing i'm so glad to have been a part of the ride when did i say that this is 2015 this is 2015 in february you lambasted jonas for being a new list yeah you should have been listening earlier son of a bitch uh k-town sides with you about the hashtag said why did you uh leave the hashtag to somebody who came up with the title jesse blake sports report yeah no kidding damn branding not great damn uh this one is from which one should i read next all of them uh individually one by one cap with joe adam's
Starting point is 01:28:37 got nowhere to be sitting there watching the podcast and very suddenly being like jesus christ haven't been listening to the show for a whole decade yes you have i took the train to college of the podcast with the perfect listen uh to and from school i didn't even like the leafs at a time i thought their logo was stupid damn oh but no their logo was stupid this is from don't do it not so much a specific memory but this show is the reason i work in sports media wow i found the pod in 2017 with the trade alexander ovechkin video uh you guys do you remember we titled the podcast trade alexander ovechkin just to be dicks yeah yeah you guys immediately stood out to me with your humor and your approach to topics in the hockey world like many others i became a regular
Starting point is 01:29:22 listener and slowly got turned into a least fan i think we turned a lot of people in the least fan over the last 10 years a lot of people say that that's wrong fast forward a few years later and i begin to read steve's book i was inspired by his stories coming up in the media industry and decided to go back to college for sports media while at college i was hired to do play by play for the hockey teams and began to do some media work for the teams as well later on a friend sees me in a leaf jersey and asks if i'm a fan then they say do you know who steve dangle is my best friend in high school used to love his videos you should meet her we've now been together for two years still making references to lfrs we loved when we were teenagers i love that eventually i
Starting point is 01:30:01 graduated with a degree in video production now do media work for the echl team in my hometown out i also spend my free time calling games for local junior hockey team oh i love that thank you guys for this show and this community your approach to life doing the right thing blah blah congratulations there's congratulating us on 10 years helping me countless others get their first start so not only did they meet their partner they got a job in media because of this stupid podcast i want to read some from twitter i got i got some good ones i got some good ones um jesse the first one i want you to bring up if you can i've sent you two text messages uh both are videos oh sorry one's video one's a um uh one's a a a picture so the first one is from 2018 and i'm
Starting point is 01:30:44 actually surprised it's only from 2018 because i thought this would be uh a little bit older um and it was when the leafs last made a gm change um kyle dubas came on and people were talking about the differences between um kyle dubas and lou lamorello and how people were making a ton of a ton of noise about off lou lamorello and did this and didn't do that and and all the good decisions were kyle's yes all good decisions were kyle's all bad ones were lose um jesse can we play that youtube video because it's a minute and a half and it cuts right to it oh you want to play yes can we do that we don't fully know how mark hunter being the head of of that of the drafting yeah we don't fully know how that ended up right we still don't know we're
Starting point is 01:31:32 He's still maybe three, four years away. It's nice to see Carl Grunstrom maybe jump on, and he's going to play well. And Will Dubas was like, we need Federer-Gurdiv. That was his pick. Maybe. If we get Federer-Gurdiv in the fifth round or I quit on the spot, he threatens to friggin' fight Brendan Shanahan and kick Lou Lamorello in the chest unless the Leafs drop Federer-Gurdiv.
Starting point is 01:32:00 It might have been him. You'll never know! Kicks it right in the chest! Wow! Front kick! Gets his glutes into it! Hips! Activation! Federer-Gurdjieff forever! More like forever-Gurdjieff! We need him! And Mark Hunter's like, Jesus, dude, chill. No! And he slapped him.
Starting point is 01:32:23 Slapped Mark Hunter. But like he didn't like Mark Hunter kind of move, so he slaps him in the neck. Wow. Slaps him right in the neck. So it's like a karate chop. Almost knocks him out like James Bond. It's messed up, man. Kyle Dubas is crazy. Can I just say I got up to change the camera?
Starting point is 01:32:40 Jesse got up to change the camera and that's what Steve did the whole fucking time. That's what happens sometimes is that. I had to keep a bit going because Jesse was standing. Or you just, sometimes you just go, man. You just fucking go and like, I'm like, all right, I'm going to get out of his way. so uh i did a talk at ryerson a few years ago and someone came up to me after i was done and
Starting point is 01:33:02 they're like hey so i'm actually uh i think i'm a friend of a friend of fedor gerdiv no and he knows about that does he oh nice yeah and does he like it i think so that's sick i love that he still plays too i think that's cool i'm so glad he likes that um the next one jesse can you bring it up yes uh it says jesse oh that was not the one but hey listen that works too uh that that was not the one i wanted i sent the wrong piece okay but yeah you do way to go yeah sorry about that jesse um now i've got one for you steve okay uh a lot of people asked and these episodes have been archived so i don't think people remember but some of the day ones some of the people that have been here forever uh jesse will remember this uh will remember that you had a great bob
Starting point is 01:33:48 cole impression i sure did and we i thought it'd be fun one day for steve to do bob cole uh but reading 50 shades of gray 50 shades of bob cole 50 shades of coal and people are saying they're still talking about it so i would like you i've got 15 of the hottest according to post toast um 15 hot lines from 50 shades of gray you can use to spice up your relationship can we do like five yeah just do whatever we don't have to do 15 i want to i want to read some i want to read some all right all right do it do it do it just just scroll through and just read every one of those little things i'd like to bite that lip you will not be able to see me or hear me but you'll be able to feel me i want i want to do rude things to you and my alter ego knows a trick or two
Starting point is 01:34:51 anticipation is the key to seduction and right now i'm really into delay Yeah, right now I'm really into delayed gratification. You want me, baby, and I sure as hell want you. You know what to do. I want you to please me. i want you i want you to be reminded that i've been here only me you're mine you beguile me completely overwhelm me i've never wanted more until i met you this this is your punishment so close and yet so far is this nice
Starting point is 01:35:54 do you have any idea how exquisite your scent is it's irresistible hockey night returns after this you want me to keep going it's good it's great it's great jesse we got endless who says there was that one time they were talking about the chain smokers and i listened to it with a friend in the car and we couldn't oh jesse and i talking about the chain smokers did we not bring that to this show what like because we we were talking about the the kiss the kiss yeah and we told that story on this show did we yeah oh man it's about us messing up on on kiss that's my greatest regret in our career jesse and i almost died and do you know this do you remember this story no jesse how do you remember it um because i remember we were giving away so the big prize on the big
Starting point is 01:36:49 prize on kiss 92.5 at the time was uh seeing the chain smokers in paris they had this the song we were staying in paris you know that song paris away from your parents yeah yeah paris and parents they ran this so we call the winner jesse gets him on the phone he's like oh they just woke up i was like what it's the afternoon what because i was doing afternoons with him at the time and so anyway we pick up the phone and um person i think that jesse if i'm wrong here correct me but i i said hi like well congratulations you've won tickets to see the chain smokers in paris and then she said oh i'm in paris right yeah and and we're like what she's like i'm in paris right now we're like paris ontario she's like no paris france uh and and we're like oh well cool
Starting point is 01:37:38 you get to go back and then we didn't make the connection that we should have maybe played like there's a whole bunch of well there was a whole bunch of shit about like so they were they were in paris and we should have been like oh so you could stay in paris it wasn't it wasn't no wasn't tickets to see the chain smokers in paris there's tickets to see the chain smokers in toronto and And she was in Paris at the time listening to us at like 4 in the morning. And she had won it. And we had made no connection between the Chainsmokers having the song and her being in Paris. And we just went into the break.
Starting point is 01:38:08 I'm like, oh, congratulations. Oh, that's great. That's cool. You're listening to us overseas. And we never addressed the fact that... You did this live? Yeah. Idiot.
Starting point is 01:38:15 That sounds like a nightmare. It was awful. Oh, it was terrible. Sorry, I did a terrible job. I don't remember some of this stuff, right? Like, I forget it. Sorry, I did a terrible job explaining it. This one's from HCP.
Starting point is 01:38:23 Congratulations on 10 years. relatively speaking i'm very much a new listener i think under two years i want to share my favorite clip from the podcast so far my brother owns a business and we worked together for you uh together for a few years on it i did i did the it and tech support stuff for him we heard this together and to this day we still use it when dealing with other business owners who make really really questionable decisions and of course being a couple of many decades flyers fans who fucking hated the guy it's an easy favorite and that is the steve's end of an era in philly video do you remember that one end of an era in philly video no i'll play some of it here let me end of an era
Starting point is 01:39:02 i thought you were gonna tell the what are you nuts oh i do love that one that story here here's the club is a team with no money i hope his next nhl job is a team with no money that's chuck Fletcher because he just stuffs a potato cannon with wads of hundreds and every offseason goes oh no I've identified a problem
Starting point is 01:39:28 and he fires the potato cannon at it and the problem stays there it's just now covered in money I hope I forgot about that I don't remember saying that good line what are you talking about Chuck Fletcher good line me
Starting point is 01:39:44 that's a great line oh my god there was okay so there's a few throwbacks that i can't even remember mike francesa spills coke live on the air yeah so we took that clip i guess i can find that mike i forgot about that one's friends we used to have we used to like francesa bits all the time i loved here it is here it is i got it i got it i got it i got it um freaking out about harambe also um the the ancient brits can't draw that was recent um can you last week jesse can you bring up the i'll bring up the my friend says a thing in a second but i sent you a text can you bring up some ancient british art for steve oh you just want my answer no i have sucked it dry they're terrible garbage um i also it's i have some of the best and
Starting point is 01:40:31 worst art in history in my lineage the italians michelangelo the brits some fucking dude with brit art they are they are so good at 2d like look at that look at that bullshit they cannot draw they can't the ancient brits could not draw and it's funny you look at it like italian art or roman art or greek art or sassanid persian art or any of that stuff phenomenal but for some reason like a thousand years later they're like now we forgot something about tomatoes and olives develops the parts of your brain that allows you to draw and uh potatoes they don't do it no they don't know and other things that brits eat it just doesn't work it doesn't warm ale doesn't help you draw um the uh jesse i've sent you the video for mike francesca with the diet
Starting point is 01:41:25 coke so mike francesca for francesca for those who don't know or just catching up with the show or whatever mike francesca was a long time very successful afternoon sports guy in new york and he actually worked with uh it was it was the mike and mad dog show or something mad dog and mike or whatever one of the most legendary sports shows in new york because they almost hated each other every day and they just yelled at each other you're wrong no you're wrong no you're wrong and mad dog now goes on um he now goes on like first take with steven a smith every tuesday he's a very entertaining guy mike was also very entertaining but there's this clip and he he would he live the diet coke oh no so he knocks his coke over yeah stands it back up but because it's a coke
Starting point is 01:42:15 all the fizz comes out the top it keeps exploding yeah it's so good it's i just remember her um mike francesa talking about harambe no what did he say well he was mad that like people were upset the gorilla died and people weren't concerned about the child and everyone's upset about the gorilla? The child was fine. The child was fine. But everyone was concerned about the gorilla.
Starting point is 01:42:44 Because that was his, he's got a very strong, I think Brooklyn accent. Oh, who knows, man. Yeah, he's gone now, I think. He's gone and I don't believe he's on radio. I don't know if he even has a podcast. From what we've heard,
Starting point is 01:42:55 I think it was, was it Julie Stewart Binks that told you he was a really nice guy? Oh, yeah. He's apparently a very, very nice man, but he had some hilarious takes and man it's just like it was kind of like watching your your gramp on the air you know like sometimes do you guys remember when we did farmers only ads yes that's from uh back he's back all right yeah have we done a hockey one yet what do you mean
Starting point is 01:43:17 like all our best memories are not this is colin said uh i love the steve's kayak because i can tell adam had been holding on to that nugget of information ready to drop it on steve and tell the world about how he bought a kayak for his friend there was another uh nugget that adam held on to for a long time is that in your prep what's that the goddamn adam baited me so hard he knew before the show that my wife oh this is great oh that was a good one had bought blue jays playoff tickets yeah and you thought it was a waste of money so no but i didn't know So the plan was she was going to call in to the show to tell me, Hey, I got blue Jays tickets first time in the playoffs and you know, since 1993, ah, and Adam earlier in
Starting point is 01:44:14 the show wound me up about how much the tickets cost. And I was like, that's stupid. You shouldn't spend that much money. There's so many other ways you can spend that money. and then she calls in and goes i got blue jays tickets and i just had to go that's so good i'm so glad you did that thank you that's so great i don't even think i didn't even tell her what i was doing oh you that's how you follicle asshole oh it was great this is from ash jay do you guys remember when i introduced you to the the air horn 20 20th century fox intro and then
Starting point is 01:44:48 that was in the sdp intro for like a couple months i do remember that i completely forgot about that one uh that was very funny uh there's a couple mentions of belly hadid oh that was a good one jordan's jordan jordan's bachelor bios get it uh david dobrik and liza kashi uh breaking that down that was a good one yeah levi maestro obviously with the watch that doesn't tell time watch the jake and smallwood who steve is best friends with now i will text with jake and smallwood every now and then yeah that's pretty cool we feel bad for that segment man well no because so okay we went through the whl names and we came across jake and smallwood which is a letter away from jack and smallwood and we were like oh my god why would
Starting point is 01:45:42 someone named their kid that and then someone sent me a video of this child eating a salad or cereal or something listening to the segment and looking sad and then i realized that person was jake and smallwood's sister and the person in the video was jake and smallwood oh my god so the fact that he doesn't hate us i mean we deserve to be hated oh yeah then we had him on and remember it was like uh we were talking about how we want jake and smallwood jerseys yeah and we go so what's your number and he starts going like 708 and we're like no no no he's gonna give the phone number jacob jacob no no no no no no that's true i forgot about that he was a good guy really really nice guy yeah uh yeah where's he going do you have more from uh
Starting point is 01:46:31 twitter adam i can uh i can pull more i think you know the other thing about jake and smallwood that i can kind of remember is that people used to um tweet us that they had drafted him in yes in nhl like he was in several of those nhl games as like a you know a prospect so he was a guy that you could sign or draft or whatever um so i i love that one i absolutely love that he played this past season at the university of alberta do you guys remember when uh you let me rant for like half an hour about the fast and furious movie because i don't saw it and then was it bad let me do a movie review on it oh yeah because ludicrous went to space yeah it was the one where they went to space i thought i had to drive in i talked about it for like half an hour you
Starting point is 01:47:15 were very upset about ludicrous going to space somebody threw that one out uh i'm just looking up here um okay so jesse um uh somebody this is baltimore berserk has been with us forever yes and and sent us hot sauce years ago and stuff like that uh the first time that jesse spoke on the podcast a lot of people don't know this but jesse said nothing for the first six months right you were quiet yeah maybe it's because of the first question he asked me oh so we okay on jesse's first show talk about that we had just brought him on and we wanted people to get to know him so we had a press conference where where we're like ask jesse anything you want to get to know jesse our new producer and and the first person's first fucking question is who is your
Starting point is 01:48:07 hottest first degree relative like you fucking assholes like are you kidding me welcome to the show jesse all right what cousin you want to fuck jesus christ so jesse didn't speak you never did answer the question uh yeah yeah um uh baltimore berserk also said the second half of your show where you were allowed to curse because you were no longer on the radio so yeah for a while dave cadeau shout out to dave who's a great guy um and and who was the head of uh sportsnet 590 the fan for a long time um he was the first guy to put us on the air and he put this show on the air at like 1 a.m and we would do the first 45 minutes and then the rest of the 15 minutes would be commercials so the first 45 minutes of the show were a swear free zone and then the rest of it we could say
Starting point is 01:49:02 whatever we wanted uh for a little while there and what was funny about that was like sportsnet never really never asked us first off they never paid for anything so we just gave it to them we got no money for that but we were also like um we were probably five years into the show at this point and uh uh we're like we we were doing this and then we asked them like hey you're posting the entire episode we thought you were only posting you know 45 minutes of it you're posting the entire episode on your website and there is swearing on it and the guy uh the guy who was the podcast at the time of sports that's like oh you know what um probably probably best practice not to swear on on on podcasts ever like you know we have found through research that people don't like
Starting point is 01:49:44 swearing on podcasts and i'm like that's great it's our show we'll do what we yeah well and and he never and the thing was we continued doing it no one ever checked oh so um and then also the steve dangle sum of europe rant from the world cup seven years ago now 2016 we talked about how the world cup was a joke because two of the teams weren't even countries there's there's europe or no sorry there were like there was like team sweden finland germany or no there wasn't a germany there wasn't a germany was part of some of europe right the team was called europe but it was team some of yours like germany and the balkans like it was crazy there were german country or sorry there were europe european countries represented and also canada the
Starting point is 01:50:25 states and team north america what we all the whole hockey world rebelled and called them the young guns remember that who and that's what it should have been america that's what it should be it was a terrible format it was and it was a fun tournament the young guns thing was great do you remember um fuck shane i do remember why did we say fuck because uh there's a question we were supposed to get to him and and jesse said hey we didn't get to shane's question i was like whatever fuck shane we're going and then it became a running and then every episode jesse to be like should i uh should i ask shane's question somebody else said uh guys uh top memories the hollywood bros the guys that went to uh to protest the fact that they couldn't party
Starting point is 01:51:09 in hollywood anymore they're like what up council what up council we just want to have a kegger like why do we keep getting shut down uh it was great the bella hadid thing diamond back the jim jim diamond he's gonna get you yeah so get you so vegas's twitter account when it was in its first year was bombastic yes and it went after a reporter from nashville in the western conference final because right uh i think it was western conference final that's man i don't know anyway they said well they you know these reporters are only fans of the team and a lot of reporters were like me i'm not a fan of the team i cover i i could i could it couldn't be me we're objective and uh and it was and also it happened to be this guy jim diamond who's just a really nice guy
Starting point is 01:51:55 no because he was the the the the union head for the nashville chapter oh of the the professional operators yes okay so and uh and anyway for some how did it get into the diamond back thing i don't even know how you got there i was he's a snake yeah we talked about his backhander and like how he bragged about his backhander for some reason yeah like they call it the diamond back because it'll get you and it just just evolved a typical conversation we can't even recant and then he actually recorded an audio piece for you yeah and he's like this podcast is brought to you by or this yeah this steve dangle podcast is brought to you by me jim diamond the diamond back it'll get you uh intro uh the dogs playoff picks i have no idea what they're talking about dogs playoff
Starting point is 01:52:40 oh i made a video where my dogs um picked who would win in the playoffs and people got outrageously upset really because it was obvious that the dogs were simply picking the treat on the right i don't remember this no i don't remember any of this oh my god when you brought it up on the podcast we gave you so much shit for it i was like they're dogs i gotta go find that one that was i completely forgot about that uh what color is it tennis ball jesse being a shithead that was that was the height of what color is this dress or it's a hot dog a sandwich simpler times simpler times cliff fletcher bit from the trade parade do we remember what that was cliff fletcher no no no i don't remember that at all uh the other
Starting point is 01:53:40 one that's that when you used to say that's that that's what that is i think was that not a greg brady article for the least nation or something like that it was oh man it was based and we know somebody ending like a tweet or an article with that's that that's that that's what that is what's that and then uh number eight a more recent one adam forgets his password ah yes yeah okay i didn't like the one where the day after the studio was cleaned steve and maddie fired confetti cans i'm gonna have to come here early on monday with my actual shot back and messed up you're such an asshole oh my god uh i'm shaving his butt oh the shaving the butt story that's funny oh yeah maddie doesn't know that should i tell that story again we got a lot of
Starting point is 01:54:26 new people go for it so um when you're a boy uh you get a lot of when you're hairy boy i should say uh i'm a hairy boy uh you get a lot of hair everywhere and one of the places i got hair uh that was new and unexciting, uh, was, um, my, my bottom, uh, in my late teens, I had a bare bottom until then. And then I became a hairy bottom boy. Early puberty. You're like, I wish I was hairier. And then you're like, no, go back. Yeah. No, stop. No, no. Now stop button. Is there a stop on this? I assure you there is not. So I would, what's brutal about it is that when it comes in, it gets very itchy. Like, you know, you know, you know, when you like shave or you wax or whatever, it can get itchy when the hair grows in.
Starting point is 01:55:07 The first time it gets in, it's really itchy. You ever work at the zoo with extremely hairy legs and part of your uniform is full pants in the middle of July and August? Terrible. I'd have so many back of knee sweat marks. But anyway, I... Every after zoo party was just a bunch of raisins walking around.
Starting point is 01:55:26 Oh, God. Just a bunch of barely people on the brink of dehydration death. why they always they do make you wear pants and i don't know why just have a beer and a half and be cataclysmic so my my butt was bothering me i couldn't sit in class and i was in last year of high school and first year of university throughout this butt problem and finally in my first year of university i decide you know what this five bladed razor that i use on my face i am gonna use this on my butt because i'm so tired of sitting through three hour lectures and flipping my butt back and forth like i'm on top of somebody grinding like my life depends on it and that's how i used to
Starting point is 01:56:11 because i would go to the bathroom and i would like try to scratch it and then it would be fine and then i go sit back down and it would be like no we're fucking itchy again no you know what makes things not itchy anymore shaving so i shaved and my my and i only i got halfway through that's right one cheek and my ass turned in the into the the the surface of the moon it was cratered it was cut it was and you guys i'm like i'm in the thing i'm trying to like you know shave from behind here and i wasn't good and then i actually you were a legal adult when you made that decision oh yeah i was probably close to 19 and i you were a voter i yeah 100 you voted on the future of this country absolutely i could buy liquor i'm fairly sure and uh and i and i lived with my mom at the
Starting point is 01:56:56 time because i was going to post-secondary and i i was like mom i i've got a problem she's like what's the problem and i had to explain this problem to her and i said i don't know what to do about it and uh and uh and then she's like well you're gonna have to let me see so i had to show my mom my half-shaven ass and then i and then she was like and she's like i'm gonna introduce you to something it's called moisturizer and that was it was brutal it was so bad it was so bad but yeah that's what happened i i um blindly shaved one half of my ass with a five bladed razor very underrated part of that story is it's the same razor you use to shave your face yes yeah yeah i remember that yeah good story it was bad anyway so listen keep them coming
Starting point is 01:57:39 lots of memories uh thank you so much for for sticking around for 10 years we do appreciate it like i said half the shit we do i don't even remember anymore but um it's uh maybe you'll start remembering stuff absolutely nothing is worse than like uh at a book signing or something someone will come up to me and they'll say something i do not understand happens all the time to me and they're quoting me to me and i'm like i don't remember that adam i think from today onwards you're gonna remember everything you think so yes because now you know you don't sleep yeah yeah wake up at four in the morning it's a new era it really is i think eight of the last 10 years doing this show has been i've been doing mornings as well so this is gonna be fun
Starting point is 01:58:18 oh it's a whole new world uh anyway guys thank you so much uh let's talk about some stanley cup finals when we come back on monday and don't forget to check out the cj show because they have a treasure trove of stuff on the on on the leaf central living and dubis and all the other stuff going on there and guys have a fantastic weekend uh no pride don't forget oh yeah one more time jesse give it to us oh hit the link in the description help us raise money for our virtual 5k go to sdp and shop.ca pick up some pride merch and let me know what throwback vault merch you want me to drop on the store for monday i love it maybe a little deep dish threesome oh no way
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