The Steve Dangle Podcast - Explain! | May 24, 2024

Episode Date: May 24, 2024

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Jesse & Pierre (00:00), Gripper Nation (07:00), Dallas stats and stream stats (14:45), Edmonton takes game 1 over Dallas (34:00), Leon and San Jose (56:00), Don Waddell steps down from his Hurricanes job (1:01:00), the Panthers go up 1-0 on the Rangers (1:10:00), Max Domi's next contract (1:26:00), and the Blackhawks make a shocking trade (1:38:30). Visit this episode's sponsors: Go to http://shadyrays.com and use code SDP for 50% off 2 or more pairs of polarized sunglasses. For all the odds and to learn more visit https://betmgm.com/DANGLE Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://igamingontario.ca/en/player/responsible-gambling Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Must be 19+ or older to play. Join SDP VIP: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0a0z05HiddEn7k6OGnDprg/join Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/thestevedanglepodcast Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sdpvip/subscribe Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Join us on Discord: https://discord.com/invite/MtTmw9rrz7 For general inquiries email: [e-mail] Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

let me just say this it's been a banner 24 hours for the network yeah and i want to start with the most important part the we made it moment the we made it and i don't even know if you're aware of it steve but we i'm almost positive i'm not we've been fighting you know at this network for recognition we want to we want to we want to be taken seriously yeah you know this is a real sports network full of sportsy guys steve how are your contribute contributions to that going like breaking news and getting like stories out there for us to legitimize the network and and such there are there are rumors jesse that he's well compensated for such things ah yes don't forget saudi steve by the way that's a very nice maserati you drove in this morning

surprised you didn't take the helicopter but you know it turns into one oh sorry oh you don't have one oh sorry you're right you're right i'm sorry about that sorry uh no ladies and gentlemen yesterday uh during the hockey game jesse blake made an appearance on the nhl network that isn't even that we made it moment because jesse's done this before oh yeah asterix not the nhl network the nhl's youtube channel okay which is a part of the nhl network and who just where they have their nhl host who jesse did you share the screen with uh alexa anna and pierre pierre who jesse mcguire was on no way jesse and pierre mcguire were panel co-hosts last night let me just say we made it listen we made it i've been watching pierre mcguire since i was like 10 years old man

we made it that guy that guy has done broadcasting forever and a little bit of ottawa senators managing too and a little bit of heart for whalers coaching too dude yeah but he never did make it to general manager so that's why they brought in jesse oh yeah they brought in the real gm i was sitting there i was like you know i've been higher in management than you and he's like oh yeah tell me about the trades you've made well hey don't you have on your stream tonight isn't it the finals i we made the stanley cup finals we are up against the minnesota wild we're gonna play game one tonight the biggest stream of the season so far 6 30 p.m eastern on stpn's youtube channel what are the rules and by which you had to like you

had to follow to get here because i think that's important like you know are you playing the games yourself are you simming the games what are you doing so in our franchise mode sim we sim all of the games we're not allowed to play any of them um we're not allowed to set any of the lines either so we have the you have the head coach and you hit head coach preferred lines and you leave it up to the head coach there the only things you're allowed to do are gm duties so you sign players Resign, obviously, you do free agency, you make trades, and that's kind of it. And then you watch the games unfold, and you see what the Sims spits out. And right now, we're in the Stanley Cup Finals, so it's good.

Game one tonight versus Minnesota. Very exciting. And then following that, immediately following the Stanley Cup Final, we have the Eastern Conference Final. Yeah, less important. With Steve Dangle. You're in the semifinal, I'm in the final. That's right.

Yeah, it's true. That's right. conference final panthers rangers friggin one goal until four minutes left feel the scintillation it was man that was not the game i was expecting no no i well so we'll get to that in a second but jesse i just want to i want to ask did you and pierre develop like a little chemistry did you have like a tit for tat did you i just jimmy and shake he liked my because when um stagan scored on uh it was no ben scored ben's on on the on the wide open cage after the rebound i was i was kind of breaking down how day harney didn't have anybody in front of the net and there's two

dallas stars players right next to him like day harney's got to grab a man this happens he's over there and pierre's like this is great from jesse just a piggyback off of that so he kind of liked that analysis and i felt i felt a little good in my soul that's good man air mcguire was like you know what nice point and then uh he told the story about how because i was like um i was talking about how dallas is going down one nothing and all that stuff and he talked about how when uh back in 91 i believe when he was going through the playoffs um or i don't i forget what year when they were going through the playoffs they lost every first game of the series on the way to the stanley cup well that would have been the penguins then the i guess the penguins won

91 or 92. Yeah. Both. That's crazy. Yeah, they were down 1-0 in all four series. So it's not over if you just lose game one because he did it, you know? They came all the way back each time. Well, Dallas, I know they lost game one to Vegas.

Did they lose game one to Colorado? They did. Remember, it was the comeback. Remember, Dallas was up three goals. Yep, and they lost? And then Colorado came on. Oh, wow. The last game one that Dallas won, I believe, is the Stanley Cup final.

No. in 2020 yeah look it up no i don't know how i would begin looking that up uh i'll do it okay all right i'll do it that seems like a wow damn damn hey hey it makes me happy as a leaf fan because we never win game one either and it is possible no sometimes they do and they lose that is literally what i know i just thought that was pretty cool because like people were in in the chat for my live stream and they were like they're like yo jesse's on Jesse's on with Pierre Maguire right now. That's crazy.

I'm so mad I missed that. You can go back and watch it on YouTube. I've stayed up for the vast majority of the games these playoffs and I had to tap out. You missed a good one. I went to double OT. When I saw that, I was like, okay.

I would have been pot committed to. I was about to say I would have had to miss the overtime, but I know I wouldn't have, so I just would have shown up miserable. You would have been even less sleep yeah so i'm glad i didn't do that you know what it's game one you can watch the replay it's not the end of the future sick isn't the future yeah highlights on demand yeah on my phone i love it the game in six or whatever and uh that can be helpful too in the regular season when things are

just like there's oh we've got we've got 16 games tonight i don't know if they call that right what do they call it now call it that anymore because they had uh leafs in six oh okay or whatever it was um the highlight pack that i used to edit at uh friggin leafs tv and did a great job and it was rarely ever six minutes was it um it was very often a little under or a lot over usually a lot um no it's just uh the replay the recap up the next day well uh the other thing that happened is Jesse then parlayed his momentum from the Pierre Maguire stream and brought it to the SDPN stream.

And you know how Jesse likes to jump on your streams and start the wave and start the crab heap and stuff and whatever, and you hate the wave. I get that. I don't mind the wave, so it's less exciting with me. I'm like, yeah, let's do it. Wave hater. No, I'll do it.

I don't care about either of these teams. I'm not cheering for them to win the cup. Wow. You know who I cheer for between May and October? An asteroid. That's who I cheer for. And then hockey starts and I have purpose again. That's all I want.

Well, so Jesse, I don't know if you guys know this, but a couple years ago in Montreal, Jesse had already started his live streams and he was doing, I think, you know, he's the crab people. Those are his people, right? And so I thought it would be hilarious during our live stream, Steve was doing his with colby armstrong at sportsnet uh to to institute my own people the feed people yeah i wish hashtag gripper nation no now now uh people have been from game one canucks nashville my first game of the playoffs they have been begging pleading for gripper content and i said you get to a

thousand likes you get to see him you get to see one adam and so jesse parlayed the momentum and he brought he brought we got up to 1500 concurrence and we had a thousand likes on that thing damn yeah like that's really good and it was actually for that late had had the dallas stars not tied it up at the end of the third we never would have got there right but we got into overtime the viewership spiked and people are like what the hell is this and they all liked it and so so then so then i was like all right after the first overtime uh happened i had to i had to show the grips i think it was after first overtime grip yeah well at the intermission of the first ot yeah yeah you showed your feet because we hit a thousand like

that is indeed what happened the grip peeper and and now like gripper nation is alive and thriving people people were saying in the chat last night first off gripper nation fully united last night yeah secondly people were like it doesn't matter who won this game because we all did yeah exactly and don't get like don't give me any credit for that it's all you the whole thing was gripper nation i didn't start this challenge about hitting a thousand likes and seeing adam's feet it was it was gripper nation who did it and it was only like what 1400 people yeah we managed to squeeze a thousand likes yes out of the 1400 people which is like the percentage of viewership to likes if you see it ever on a live stream it's never that high jesse you didn't you didn't squeeze it out

of them you gripped me with the toe jesse do you have ripped it out do you have the clip can we play let's run the clip you got to see because here's the thing if you're gonna if you're gonna give the people what they want oh yeah you got to put on a bit of a show a bit of a striptease yeah okay all right now definitely now we do have new gripper achievements to unlock uh because i've only got a maximum of six i don't know if this can be on youtube live streams left to go so fun fact this couldn't have been on twitch it would violate the terms of twitch streams you're not allowed to do it to show feet in you showed it in a sexual manner i did we're gonna watch the clip but i feel like this would have violated the terms of service on twitch

okay here we go steve here we go no i don't want to see here we go you gotta have to watch it i'm not putting on my glasses here we go i'll see the shape of your foot there's my lululemon sock inside out because i just took it off are you guys ready oh it's probably so hot too get ready like we're cutting to the clip as soon as the gripper gets on screen but first i must show it off are you ready the grip in three in two you're gonna throw out your back oh no is that it dude i just screwed up my mic oh my god this content inside out you know what oh let me get let me get the pause if that is sexual to twitch then there's it's a low bar

why are your toes so little i have little toes yeah i got this that's all the better to suck on steve oh my fucking god no oh this is this is what we've come to we started this about like hey hey, we're going to legitimize the network and all that fun stuff. And what we've had here is Saudi Steve and Gripper Nation Adam. That's right. Listen, and as I make my NHL Network debut for this season tonight. Yeah, so you even hit that point. You're doing what I did last night.

Yeah, I'm going tonight. I'm going tonight. I'm going to join. Well, why stop there? I got a text from my in-laws. Oh, sorry. Go ahead. No, why stop there?

Why stop? What do you mean? Jesse, get to work. We need some merch. We need some grip drip. No. Make some grip drip, Jesse. I don't think people want to wear that.

I think people love grip drip. They need the grip drip so they can represent. Get his foot off the screen, bro. No, leave it. Look at your face, Adam. Adam's so happy to be doing this. Here, wait. Matty can't handle it.

I got a text from Hayden last night Hayden who produces this I'm not enjoying this Hayden who I believe quit last night Yeah He said I'm crying so hard I'm laughing He said I got a text from Robert asking what even

Is our job quote yeah my boss Showed his feet on a stream last night I want to read Robert Malloy's tweet that he put out Because I thought it was just along the lines of exactly what you're saying robert said if i had a nickel for every time i saw adam wilde's feet at work i'd have two nickels which isn't a lot but it's weird that it's it's weird what was the first oh right while i was streaming with colby oh my god oh my god

anyway listen there are new there are new challenges to unlock on my streams there's only potentially six left right if we go seven games we've already got one game under the belt so if if we get to 1500 likes i show both feet at the same time adam no why we can't do this okay no all right do you i don't like the fact that he's giving himself these challenges well yeah i'm giving it to the gripper nation he's the king they gotta come through he's the king of gripper nation he's egging them on and he's not making them hard enough all right three likes You can stomp on my balls Dude

What the fuck are you doing What do you mean 1500 likes would be crazy That's like the most concurrence I've had I don't get up to the Steve Dangle Four likes you can call me a bad boy The fuck Six likes you can whip me

Seven likes I get out the whipped cream Adam Two thousand likes though We gotta figure out a benchmark For two thousand likes 2000 likes gripper nation what do we get for 2000 what do we get hashtag gripper nation don't forget the hashtag right so you can find each other the grip peeper i'm gonna make that a thing you know you know uh i was like man i'm giving this stuff away

for free and people were like it wasn't free it cost us a thousand likes yeah it'll work to get definitely not free so anyway uh do you want to hear another uh cool stat i don't know before you get to your cool stat okay let me uh confirm what i said what'd you say the dallas stars have not won game one of a series since the 2020 nhl stanley cup final wow i can uh i can go through it quickly here i think i can do this on hockey reference uh real quick so they win game one of the stanley cup final against tempe lightning in 2020 next season they do not make the playoffs in 2021 next season in 2022 they lose in the first round to the calgary flames and in the first round to the calgary flames they lose the game one nothing in game one ottinger was freaking

ridiculous 2023 first round minnesota wild they lose three two in overtime double overtime to the minnesota wild game one but they win the series second round they lose to the seattle kraken oh i was on a roll second round they lose game one first game five four in overtime to the kraken they're down one nothing once again lastly vegas golden knights conference final in overtime again that is three straight ot game one losses they go down three four and then this season they lose to the colorado avalanche no they lose to the vegas golden knights in game number one four three not overtime gate round two colorado avalanche they lose four three in overtime and then the conference finals against edmonton last night in overtime again double

overtime this time three two that's a ridiculous stat that's crazy so they usually start like you know just trading blows you know and but they eventually fall in game one but then they uh they tighten their grip on the series oh is so we'll play the old tim and sid game uh i i forget i forget the actual the actual thing but like is there something there with this stat meaning a meaningless stat or significant number that was the game meaningless stat not significant number not significant significant if they lost but they keep winning they win but they keep going down won nothing and usually in overtime you usually lose games in the series best to get it over with early you know like i okay oh they haven't swept anyone i don't think any i don't think dallas

cares can we get can we get someone to like prick one of the stars with a needle so we can like get their dna and create both the best and worst playoff teams ever by combining their dna with the leafs because we can find a team that stinks late in series and early in series we can also find one that essentially doesn't lose that's your theory that's that's what it is do you think there's something significant here or meaningless meaningless okay meaningless it's i that's just extraordinary bad luck that they keep losing in game one and it's almost exclusively in overtime what did i listed off was a seven straight oh i should count it along the way but i think that's seven straight, seven or eight straight, seven.

Three this year, two last year. Calgary won. Or wait, three this year, two last year, won the year before. And then Stanley Cup final against Tampa. So that is frigging seven straight. Seven straight game ones you lose and five of them were in overtime.

Yep. Seven straight dating back to COVID. Yeah. The dawn of it. I think there's something there. But what does it say? If it's a meaningful stat, what does it say? If we're getting into the game from last night,

I don't think that team woke up for the first two periods. No, so here, wait. Let's make the Dallas Stars the Leafs. Let's do it. Because they have a bunch of new players, right, that weren't there at the beginning of this streak, but are there now. They also have a new coach who wasn't there

at the beginning of the streak, but they are now. We need to tear into Jamie Benn, Tyler Sagan, and Miro Hyskinen. And you know what? They can't keep all three. Shut up. It's a core three.

They can't keep them all. Add Joe Pavelski in there. Joker. The difference is here, they've had seven series to do this because they went to the Stanley Cup Finals. They've been in the Conference Finals. They're in the Conference Finals again.

And I don't know. They have as many series in the last three years as the Leafs do in the last six. Yeah. Yeah. I just audibly can ask. It's hard to criticize a team that's been so successful.

Yeah, yeah. And you know what? Pure fluke. It'd be great to go up 1-0, but it hasn't really negatively affected them, I would say, too much. Now, the one quick thing I want to do before we get to the game tomorrow or tonight.

Don't say show off your feet. Don't say show off your feet. I'm not going to show off my feet. Okay, good. Jesse is also making an appearance with one Christopher Johnson today on the CJ Show. Oh, yeah.

So I did want to say that, too. You did a lot today. You did McGuire. You did feet. You did Johnson. yeah and then i got stanley cups tonight yeah stanley cup tonight this is a big 24 hours for you how was the show with cj unreal cj because like it's not i'll talk about it in the context of the um philip pronix stuff so the way i look at it is like okay we'll talk about like how we

talk about here we'll talk about what happened and the reaction from all that but cj there's another level you can go to so like my follow-up question to that is what's the mentality behind the reporter going at a player and pushing back on a player in a question like what's the follow-up there and then cj provides his insight on that and he's like you know when you're doing um like a game day um article like you got it coming out at deadline you're coming down from the press box you're running to do the scrum sometimes it's high energy because that player just came off losing a game or winning their high energy you're trying to follow the story so it's a little odd that happened in this press conference environment where like the pr staff is sitting there he's up

there we just had a whole season everybody's kind of calmed down and you see the reporter push back so doing a show with cj you get to a different level than you get to when it's just like somebody who just watches the game because he's on the inside of it he's the insider so i love just asking his brain questions and like what he knows about these these conversations not him his brain yeah yeah love asking his brain question you're asking the brain question you're going direct to the brain so it's probably it's gonna be out by the time you're listening to this so go listen to that such a fun time chatting with cj uh now we've got we got to get to the uh the game last night and then we'll talk about uh florida new york which was just a barn burner

i really hope game two is better i gotta be honest i i thought after the first period um with uh so like i can't i can't hide the it sucks when you're in the middle of the game and you start really excited and like by the end of it you're like you're trying to sell people on this and you're like this fucking stinks i i'm always watching most parts of you're an adam streams and i know when the game is a little a bit of an allow when you guys just start going to chat a lot yeah i was like okay let me just answer the entire first period last night the entire first period it was like okay what do you want to talk about because neither team seems to want to play tonight well so adam how much of the uh before you talk about last night's game how

much of my game one stream did you see i saw the entire first and then you called me because i was like chilling you were uh oh no i wasn't i wasn't no i i i don't actually do edibles a whole lot during the week i try to keep it clear because i like it i like to wake up clear and although i actually sleep really well with them um but but i think uh um i was i was kind of hanging out and then i was like i when i saw your number come up a couple of times i was like oh no like there must be an emergency or something uh and then i thought and then yeah and then you said it was your refrigerator running yeah and i said oh good that means it works no but you're so you missed the second period so you're gonna hate this oh okay so adam you've done a show with me for a very long

time i have someone said in the middle of play we got a super chat it was steve can you name all 11 players who have ever played for all three of the leafs rangers and panthers oh i want to fucking die oh my god and what and steve what did you proceed to do did you do it Tried to name them before then going, no, I can't do this right now. I got to call the game before for the next 20 minutes, very visibly and audibly being distracted by trying to name all 11 guys while I was trying to call the game. And it spoke to your level of interest on the ice because there wasn't a lot of action in terms of the high danger scoring chances or anything like that. But your brain, when you get that type of hockey trivia, you're like, I got to solve this. I absolutely could not put it down.

I couldn't put it down. What I should have done is named my one or two and then quit and then moved on. But I wanted to get subs. And we got them because there was an award for everyone I got right. Like five gifted subs. And there was something in it for the viewer, too. Anyway, I only got like three. Adam, if you had the opportunity to produce that segment, let's say they were like hiring you to just manage Steve's stream and say, OK, what kind of content are we doing here?

Would you recommend Steve spend 20 minutes in the middle of a game trying to name random Leaf Ranger Panthers? Which is why the super chats are so fun, because it's like, here's anti-producing. Oh, oh, you're doing you're doing Edmonton, Vancouver. Give me a Marner trade. You know, like that's what I kept getting. What about Marner? What would you do for Marner? What'd you do for Marner?

It's like, I don't know, man. There's a game. But you're always appreciative of the Super Chat. So no, what I would have done, what I would have done, Steve, if I had been your producer on that chat, I'd have been like, save it for intermission. Name one now and then save the rest for intermission. See if you can get it done.

Wait, what was that? Save it for intermission? Hello. What's that? It's me trying to get your attention. Oh, like the producer mic. Blowing in your ears. Because the producer mics always suck, by the way.

They're always Brad Treliving at the mic. I'm Brad Treleving and I'm proud to announce at this press conference we've reacquired Pierre Matty producer Mike's we're gonna prioritize my possession I felt bad

because on my producer Mike when I was doing Adam's streams like I felt like I was just making so many plosives I could hear myself and I was like is that what they're called they're called plosives yeah those peas when you get real close if you don't have like a pop filter I thought they were called peas no there's

they're called plosives i've never learned i learned that in school plosives well i learned i did yeah me too damn damn barely we're a generation apart i'm old yeah uh you were good you were oh thank you okay well i can hear myself and i was like i sound i could hear all my spit and stuff yeah anyways well it's a uh i gotta say um uh i respect the fact that the person here's the thing if you want to if you want to do something fun on steve stream uh you know my my content is gripper content and you know where this is going but for steve you gotta think you gotta think about um you ever seen those videos where cat owners have the little fishing rod with the little thing on the end of it so you throw a super chat at steve sounds really fun is gonna

distract him because steve loves to call the game i'm more of a chat guy uh and jesse you feel like a hybrid it feels like jesse's a bit of a hybrid yeah well mine's mine's completely different vibe i think yeah we all have different vibes i do a lot of special effects yes dancing animals and music where did you get the panda by the way oh the dancing panda like that's a gem like he's doing a good dude and good stuff so so jesse's like how do i get how do i get like uh as many special effects as possible so jesse's the michael bay of streaming basically exactly and essentially watching transformers yeah you need to get an explosion one but anyway steve if you want to have some fun with steve give him a stat related question that's deep cut like that

and just super chat him like five bucks and be like yo steve how about this and then watch him try not to answer it and try to stay focused on the game because he can't do it no you know what That would have been the more evil thing. Like tonight, be like, name all three guys who have scored playoff overtime winners for both the Panthers and the Rangers, but there's only two. Oh, that'd be mean. Oh, that's mean. I'm just lying on the trivia. I could get two, and then for the rest of the game, go, but I thought there was three.

Here's a good one. That's mean. I'll be able to handle it. If I wanted to do something to you, I would be like, name the first three teams Austin Matthews scored against this year. This year? Montreal, Minnesota. Who'd they play in the third game?

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You're richer than you think. let's talk about edmonton dallas uh a rematch of a series that when when we were growing up we saw over and over stop it no over and over and over again um and edmonton you know what who the third team was your brain is actually broken go ahead hayden actually broke this out for me uh dating back to the north stars the sins fuck the edmonton oilers uh record versus the stars dallas and minnesota okay he's two and six all time they swept them twice once in 1984 uh sorry edmonton swept them once dallas swept

than the other time in 1999, but the 1997 series, which is the one that everybody really remembers, is the Curtis Joseph diving across the net to make the save in one of his last games as an Oiler before he signed in Toronto. And the Oilers and Stars would go on to play each other in 98, 99, 2000, 2001, and 2003.

Probably the most underrated rivalry of that era. It was great. It was frigging fantastic. Somebody in the chat said it was like, it was as good as, I don't know if it was as good as, but it was definitely, there was more of it when it came to Detroit and Colorado as well in the Western Conference. They hated each other. We had Toronto, Ottawa who played each other every frigging year.

We had Detroit and Colorado who didn't have to play each other every frigging year because they packed about a decade's worth of hate into a couple of series. And that one, Edmonton, Dallas. And there were series where it looked like Edmonton might, you always rooted for them and there was no salary cap. And Canadian dollar wasn't great, so the spending was off the charts for Dallas and not so much for Edmonton. But it just never quite worked out.

And I'll say this. It was really interesting last night to watch these two quote-unquote heavyweights do absolutely nothing to each other in the first period. I was blown away by how tentative both teams were in the first period. And it's because everybody looked at this series like everybody looks at Florida and New York as it's going to be violent. and we're not quite sure it wasn't really it was there were some big hits but dallas edmonton people were like yes it's the ah the the um uh the unstoppable force meets the immovable object

and the first period felt like we're both gonna let the game come to us and yeah the problem the problem with good hockey teams is they know how to play hockey boo i know boo oh man we're gonna to have so many goals ah well we're the best four teams in the NHL so perhaps not perhaps not now I will say Edmonton did a good job killing off a couple penalties in the first period and uh um Edmonton fans were complaining about the reffing last night but there was really only one call that I can really say wasn't a call which is Dylan Holloway even Matt Duchesne grabbing McDavid's stick you still you can try to get your stick loose but if you hit someone in the face with it you're still getting a penalty you're also allowed to call a maximum of 25 of the

infractions that happen to connor mcdavid oh right otherwise the whole game will be five on three for the oilers true true i thought he had a lot of he had a lot of penalties i thought you the refs would have been justified in calling something withholding the stick plus the high sticking so it should have been a two instead of a four because you call the double minor obviously because you're in charge of your stick, and it hits him in the face, and he's bleeding. But there should have been something on your holding the guy and his stick, and that's the reason it went up. So I thought they could have cut it in the middle there and just given him two.

And the weird part was they didn't make a call originally, and then they made a call. Yeah. And I didn't know they could do that. Yeah, they all kind of huddled up and were like, okay, did we see that happen? Yeah, kind of. And he's bleeding. Okay, so it definitely happened. Let's call it.

And that's funny because it was Kelly Sutherland in game one with Edmonton, Vancouver, who didn't make the call when Quinn Hughes was hit in the face with a stick by Connor McDavid and bleeding. Yeah. And that should have been called. And I think Connor McDavid losing it on the ref was an enjoy. I like seeing him emote that much because you don't see it that often. So I like to see him lose it on the ref and be like, why the fuck are you calling this? And then I'm just like, go to the box, Connor, go to the box. that i'm eventually going in he's definitely um saved it like when when he was losing his mind

after beating vancouver i went oh where's that connor been yeah like he's he's definitely saved it i man from the second they lost to vegas last year i was like this team's on a friggin mission and there were times this year well you know excluding the beginning of the year where they were terrible where even when they were playing well i'm like i still don't know if this is a champion and the more they play the more they look like it i think connor mcdavid kind of learned from the sydney crosby school of if you're a star and you complain people will call you a cry baby so you can't really complain all the time and he's he's really dialed it back from the early part of his career just like crosby was and now crosby is like nobody thinks about crosby like

that anymore and i think of all of that narrative around mcdavid's kind of coming back around as well and with the edmonton owners playing playoff style hockey the big thing about edmonton is their defense is phenomenal like it's actually great yeah a four for four on the penalty kill uh especially and then the double minor and ot and the way they they shut down vancouver in game seven except for the last eight minutes of the third there but the last three minutes they didn't allow a shot on goal and then the game six as well in vancouver stifled them and then now in game one here they're playing great defense and they're limiting the stars team and they i don't think they played that great a defense in the first like 10 minutes of the game when stewart

skinner saved them he made some real real good saves like we're saying all these things about the oilers that like you just don't expect to say and the stewart skinner his job has been easier too yes uh vancouver edmonton's done a great job keeping the shots to the outside and and really low danger and the only time you're getting goals is when that shot from the outside comes on on the the rebound goal there and day harney blows his assignment you know like those how the goal that's how the goals are coming they're not allowing these big plays off the rush to robertson or johnston and the couple times it did happen stewart skinner's there yeah you know so great great overall play there by the oilers i think uh when you look at how they came out in the second

period to uh you know leon dry saddle scoring within the first minute always a dagger and then And Zach Hyman using that beautiful ass of his. Man. Butt power. 12 goals in 13 games these playoffs. You know, it's funny. So I had that Cody CeCe stat from the other day where I said he has as many goals in his past two Game 7s as the entire Leafs team does in their last two Game 7s. I was going to talk about how Zach Hyman has more career playoff goals than any Leaf.

uh it wasn't noteworthy because he's had that since several weeks ago like he's smashing them i think he's seven goals up on the highest scoring one matthews marner neilander tavaris even dude and that line came alive last night like i we i really didn't see them when i i don't know maybe in game seven it was a bit different but games one through six versus vancouver they were a non-factor it was leon dry sidle last night they were fantastic and i kept thinking nuge was going to score in overtime he ended up being an assist uh guy on that but it was a it was really great and then here's the thing you get what i thought was hilarious was tyler sagan scores twice um as like it's sort of like a throwback because as the dallas stars have progressed he was like

he and he and ben were the guys and now their careers have sort of tailed off and they've got they're new guys they got your stankovans and your robertsons and you know whoever else but that line with dadnov is really good dude it's a third line there are four lines deep i keep saying it they're extremely deep team but what edmonton keeps doing against every opponent is they're like k you might be deeper than us but we have a line that no matter what you do we have a group of guys who will cut through you like a hot knife through butter and you know i i was really against um letting go of jay woodcroft i i still think he's a great coach whoever gets him is gonna get a great coach um but it's almost like you need an outsider to come and grab you by the shoulders

and go all of you like here connor evan leon uh zach uh ryan step out of the room for a minute and it's like you isolate the whole rest of the team oh yeah matthias sorry sorry i forgot about you the whole rest of the team guys are you fucking serious not winning a stanley cup are you fucking serious not winning a stanley cup but do you see who i just sent out of the room you all ought to be ashamed of yourselves i like that skate like you hate the ice work stick check play defense keep guys to the outside and if i see you try and score a goal i'm gonna kick you in the penis although warren fogel they're capable of it yes the warren fogel breakaway yes i didn't say they're not did he score no he didn't i didn't say they're not allowed

no breakaway is fine but like guys as a coach breakaways are good breakaways are good you know how they talk about role players being really important to winning a stanley cup that's that's everyone still remaining in this room including the goalies get in front of a puck thank you stewart skinner saw the ice really well last night he did no he did he listened to chris knoblock get in front of a puck use your mustache if you have to everyone's playing their role like i i the focus is going to be on the the stars playing unstoppable as a unit but this is also the best the oilers depth has ever performed oh yeah yeah the stars i think like there's no way they're out of this series like no no they're gonna be in this this is gonna be a long one

it's going to be six or seven and i i liked what i saw um of them mixing it up and having um sagan and robertson on on the same line with the donoff and not going with just the kid line because they're they're running that for a little bit there where it was johnston uh stankovin and robertson together and i like that they add the veteran presence there to that line and i think moving forward they're really gonna want rupa hinn's back like yeah i feel like that he's not playing yeah he's been out for the last three playoff game i think for this one to make it four but i hear there's rumors that he's progressing like he might be able to come back early in this series and i feel like if ruby hints is back in that lineup then you become even deeper in the

forward group and dallas like you you've mentioned a lot steve the way they can just run everybody out there and they can beat any of the other three lines that the admitted oralist can put out there especially if they have uh hints in that lineup they're so so freaking deep everyone can score everyone's you know how like every championship run there's the blank game like there's this game like i i can't talk about the leafs on account of they never win shit but i go back to the raptors championship run like there was the pascal uh there was the siakam game there was the surprisingly danny green game and the shot yeah well and ironically uh like like i i don't know if the finals necessarily had like a kawaii game but the clinching game

was the lowry game yeah scored their first 11 points you know what i mean and the stars have so many hockey one i think is the best example in recent memory is the cadre game you remember when he came back from injury and then scored the ot where that was the cadre game along the way for the color avalanche to win the stanley cup and the stars just have an infinite number of guys who are capable of giving you that game oh it's the wyatt johnston game last night was the tyler sagan game and they wasted it yeah um that's a bit of a problem but uh they have just a number of guys who are capable of giving you that night yeah none of those names like you name you name everybody in the forward group if they randomly stepped up that night and had like a hat trick

or something you wouldn't be that surprised no like that person has that i mean sam steel would surprise sam steel a little bit he has i'm pretty sure an nhl well there you go there you go but i feel like every guy on dallas has that in them yeah the ability to be a game breaker which is just crazy i want to throw this at you guys okay so the dallas defense pairings are thomas harley Miro Haskinen, Esa Lindell, Chris Tanev, Ryan Suter, Alex Petrovic, okay? Of those three pairings, who is the worst in expected goals against per 60 in the playoffs? Don't tell me Haskinen. It's not.

Oh, well, then good. That's what I expected. I thought you were going to give me something surprising. Is it the third pair? It is not. It's Lindell Tanev. and that really is really surprising because that's the matchup that dallas is looking for against mcdavid and last night that mcdavid line came alive now doesn't mean that it's

lindell tan of are probably going to play your top teams your team's top players right so maybe their numbers don't look all that great and frankly um dallas could easily won this game there was a robertson post in the double overtime yeah yeah there's a robertson post though in the regulation on the power play, it went right by Stuart Skinner. We could be talking about a 3-2 Dallas win today. But I just think it's interesting and something to keep an eye on.

I don't think there's anything definitive yet. Lindell Tanev versus the McDavid line, how well they're able to hold that back. Because if we go to the first overtime with five minutes to go, and McDavid is wide open in front of the net and has the puck, yeah and he waits if he hadn't waited it's over just put it in and what i loved about him after

the game was he was like no that has to go in it's like there's yeah it's nice that he made the save it it has to go in yeah but you know who and everybody's given jake ottinger and they should his props but you know who caught him was chris taniff chris taniff got in the way and made sure that that shot wasn't very good there i mean sometimes the puck gets on your stick and it's like what are you doing here like people don't realize it's there but i what i love about mcdavid is like no excuses that needs to go in end of story no i know one of the worst ones of these playoffs is uh swayman gave it away uh behind his net and marner's like uh and like just continue to go around the net and it's like no if you stop up it's a goal yeah fuck but sorry it's of all the

storylines that one gets talked about the least in terms of reasons to be mad it wasn't uh i remember I know exactly the play you're talking about. And there was a couple other plays where he could have driven the net and he just went, you know what? How about I go wide? No, but you're not expecting that. I'm not saying he did anything wrong.

Nor am I saying McDavid did anything wrong. It's just sometimes it shows up and you're like, and it just takes a sec. What do I do? It takes a sec to compute. Yeah. That's why goal sucks.

Guys who have, over the course of their career, make their bread and butter in front of the net like Pavelski and Hyman like people act like it's easy oh no it's a really it's a hard job yeah it's yeah someone has to do a lot of the leg work but it's a really specific skill that not a lot of people can do Adam to add on to your stats I don't I don't think you mentioned it they were on uh Lindell and Tanev were on for all three goals last night like that's because McDavid Hyman were on for all three goals last night right yeah Those are the two defensemen who got beat on every goal.

So they got their matchup. Yeah. Do you learn something from that? Like, yeah. You got your matchup. Should it be? Or is it good to hold those guys the three goals because they're fucked? Well, yeah, they are.

But remember, it's Vancouver shut them down. Ish. Ish. I think Vancouver did about as good a job as you can do. That's a good way of putting it. Right? You can't stop them and contain them. Have the Oilers played?

What, this year? This playoffs. Seven plus, what was the first round? LA 5. Oh, yeah. They ran over LA in 5. 12, 13. So in those 13 games, McDavid has 20 assists.

I feel this narrative around McDavid has been cold these playoffs. He hasn't been otherworldly, but he's been great. His standards. Three goals, 20 assists. His standards preposterous. Yeah. Yeah. And especially because the guy next to him in Drysaddle is putting on one of the greatest

playoff performances of all time. Yes. Definitely of our lifetimes. Well, I mean, I think I was saying it last night. I think, again, he's got like eight or nine of the 13 games. He scored in every game. He's had a point in every game. I mean, Drysaddle has.

But I think 13 game points streak. Eight or nine of them have been multi-point. And not last night. Last night was not a multi-point game. He did get a goal, though. So, you know, it's just ridiculous and stupid. And I hate it. But man, it was an exciting game

And I love going to double overtime And what was amazing about double overtime Is when McDavid scores And no one's talking about this today Chris Knobloch could not have got off the ice faster They were trying to review that goal For goaltender interference And Chris Knobloch is like

Making his way over And in Dallas, you have to walk across the ice to get out He's in his dress shoes Making his way across the ice Not goaltender interference They think Hyman might have played the puck with a high stick Oh, is that what it was? So then the play should have been stopped at that moment, I think it was.

Every – Either way, it should have been a goal. Right, right, right. The Oilers couldn't have done this because they were on the road, but if you have one of those goals scored at home, ask for forgiveness later. Every team should have confetti. The overtime confetti button. Oh, my finger slipped.

I pressed the confetti button. Oh, no, it's going to take us like 45 minutes to clean this up before we can continue the game. Oh, no. i guess we should just leave it i think that's what they did with dallas buffalo it's like oh no the cup here they shine it up and everything let's just go ahead and give it to them um do you want to know how absolutely cracked leon dry's title is yeah so his first playoff was 2017 he's third in nhl scoring in the stanley cup playoffs since his playoff debut in 2017 okay

Kucherov is first with 125 points. McKinnon is second with 104. Kucherov's 21 points up in the second place guy. I'll get back to that in a minute. Dreisaitl has 102. Here's the difference. Kucherov has played 102 games. McKinnon has played 81.

Dreisaitl has played 62. he has a hundred and two playoff points in 62 playoff games which is 1.65 points per game which you're not going to believe this is a lot is the most since 2017 number two is uh connor mcdavid 1.58 so like dry saddle is better than mcdavid when it comes to the playoffs and putting up points in terms of putting yeah but you got to give out a con smith right now which there's seven wins away from that it's dry saddle or joseph wall or joseph true one true yeah one two should be should go to a leaf what was their joke again what do you mean didn't someone actually put a bet on that i don't think so i thought someone put a bet on that i just i i just saw justin

cuthbert on twitter go well um rip to the worst bet i've ever made because uh rick talkett uh won the jack adams at the beginning of the season he placed a bet on mike babcock so we're in columbus stop oops justin are you unaware of the columbus blue jackets generally no we were on the jack no if you stink and then get unstink like even sort of dude tortorella got uh jack adams votes and he didn't he didn't make the playoffs he did there were two two coaches in the top 10 who didn't even make the playoffs you're telling me if the blue jackets like sneak into a wild card with babcock he's not winning it with more first place votes than talk it got is a runaway landslide run away are you kidding me yeah the bet made sense how it unfolded is

hilarious yeah hey i mean in justin's defense he didn't lose a single game yeah it's rare for a coach to get hired and not lose a single game adam wild yes on your stream since we're on leon dry saddle just a little away from the game you brought this up you're breaking news just like saudi steve leon dry side out to the san jose sharks yes why did someone ask you about this and what information did you have on this i don't know i don't know why uh uh so i don't know why this came out but there have been rumors about this for a while okay can i tell you why like immediately yeah there was a rumor about if they had lost the second round that it would have been he would have been close to gone right but i don't know

where that came from well the sharks have reportedly gotten in for um uh permission to talk to marco sturm who is currently with the la kings um sturm could become the head coach of the san jose sharks before dry saddle arrived sturm was probably the best german-born hockey player of all time well skater olaf kolzing but uh german-born hockey player of all time so they immediately went oh two german guys bang yeah but you were you were talking about something interesting about the sap center yeah because because from what i understand so the chairman of sap is a guy named hasso platner who owns the san jose sharks is he german what do you think he sounds like it yeah and all i said was and i've heard this from several different people all i

said was there aren't a lot of there will be but there aren't a lot of people of german descent in north american hockey at the highest level it's increasing so it's increasing but they would all know each other uh no you know what that is valid right that's valid so it's valid so i don't know that uh i don't know that that's necessarily the case um but that is why i think the links are being made um i have no direct insider knowledge on this but that's why people are going well there could be something here because they absolutely know each other and so um and also san jose i hear is a great place to live especially when you're making what 15 million whatever he's going to make in his next deal well i yeah i assume the crux of this whole thing is the sharks

would pay the most for him they would absolutely pay the most for him no question and i think that's the that's the other key here is is if if and i don't i hate to do this to oilers fans in the middle of the playoffs because if they go and they win cups i don't think this is a conversation this is this is all hypothetical and it could be irrelevant but if if you're leon actually if you do win a cup and you're like i just want to cash out and san jose is building a very good program let's be honest they got the first overall pick this year if if they want a centerpiece star it's going to take a couple years but he's not up until the end of next year um they are absolutely i would say one of the teams they're going to pay a fortune for him and why wouldn't they and and i i mean

everybody would but i mean if you're already friends with the owner right i mean if you're friendly with the owner it's probably worst case you use it as leverage 100 yeah and and listen i think let's say edmonton gets a cup win this year and then they they they finish in the cup finals next year but they don't win i don't think leon's gonna leave that no or if they get to the finals this year and they win next year i don't think you're gonna leave that this is officially the deepest he's been in the playoffs yeah oh yeah because right well no no they've never won a game in the conference finals there it is jesse nailed it yeah they made it to the conference final 2022 just two years ago but they didn't win a game yeah wow there's seven wins shy of the

stanley cup right yeah so like i i think a lot of this probably is hopefulness on the sharks part yeah and i don't want anybody to twist it like you're reporting i'm not it's explaining why there is a there there yes why there are people are making a connection no adam's always going on about like oh i'm a church truther so yeah yeah this is him just going with his people are making links and those are kind of the reasons behind why there's links you know what it kind of reminds me of is like um the way it reminds you no it doesn't remind me of that it reminds me of like when we had richard petty on and he talked about courting brian burke even though brian was under contract right you know richard wouldn't actually approach him with the deal but

what he'd be like is like man it sure looked good with brian burke running the toronto maple leaves wouldn't it like stuff like that and you know you're you're playing coy you're flirting but you're not really you know you're not really saying much and i think was was brian burke richard petty's work wife i think so richard petty they wanted brian burke what there's nothing It's what? What? It's just texting him. Oh, my God.

You guys would get along so well. What? He's so funny. You could always tell exactly what Reddits I've read in the morning before a show. Yes, absolutely. Anyway, long story short, that's why I think it is. And I think this all squarely comes down to what the Oilers are able to do. some questionable decisions that didn't end up the way I planned.

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Elevate your savings with the Scotia High Interest Savings Account. always earn high regular interest rates that grow the more you save and invest conditions apply visit scotiabank.com slash hisa to learn more scotiabank you're richer than you think now what's interesting and let's talk about a free agent from the oilers well um it was reported yesterday that don waddell uh of the carolina hurricanes interviewed for the columbus blue jackets job it's also been reported that ken holland has been linked to the columbus blue jackets and what's interesting about the don waddell thing is that and i'm tying this into the oilers with holland is that last time don waddell was up and i think it was cj that brought

this up with you he interviewed to be the minnesota gm and then was like now i'll stay in carolina at whatever number they're paying me and so i think tom dundon is playing chicken again but i think This time he's got Eric Tulsky waiting, and does he need him? And do you just want the latest news? Is it new? As of 32 minutes ago, Carolina Hurricanes president and general manager Don Waddell has resigned from his post. Whoa! Assistant general manager Eric Tulsky will take over for Waddell on an interim basis with the support of fellow assistant Darren York.

The organization has begun a full search for a permanent GM. Waddell's contract was set to expire. Wow, wow, wow. So I think there's probably a deal in place with Columbus there. And I wouldn't be shocked if Ken Holland still joined just because why not? So the quote from Waddell, and I'm just reading from the score. This morning, I spoke with owner Tom Dundon and informed him that I have come to the decision that now is the time for me to move to the next chapter of my career.

I have loved my experiences in the triangle over the... Is that what they call it? The triangle? Is it because of the storm warning thing? I don't know. Not Bermuda. Somebody from Carolina, let us know why it's called the triangle. I have loved my experiences in the triangle over the past 10 years.

And together with a strong team on and off the ice, we have accomplished many great victories. I'm grateful for the support I received. So many... Organization is strong. Nothing really else except thanking people. Anyways, Don Waddell done. Resigned. I'm trying to look up Raleigh on a map.

It doesn't look like a triangle. This is where we don't... You know what? Save this for the chat tonight with Steve. Super chat him. Hey, Steve, why is it called the Carolina Triangle? I don't know. Adam, your point.

What is now... Does your opinion change on things now that he's officially out? I pissed off a Columbus Blue Jackets fan. One Columbus Blue Jackets fan who was in the stream last night. because we ran a clip from Wednesday's show and I said they're the worst run organization now that the Coyotes are gone and they are

the results are clear as day and you know if you want don't take my word for it read Aaron Portsline's article I believe it is titled Columbus Blue Jackets the team that parody forgot oh that Leafs fan and Portsy's the man

Portsy rules and I just want to say the the uh the the problem for me is that john davidson is has been the guy that's been in charge the entire time and if you talk to people that issue is going around isn't it don waddell has done a great job done a great job in carolina but when you talk to people about it they say well actually a lot of that's eric tulsky yeah i so it's valid to bring up for the right reasons i think it's okay to be like tulsky does a lot of the legwork here um to gas up tulsky i don't like it to knock down don waddell i think don's had a great career and at whether or not he created

some of these deals he executed them yeah but you always signed off you always yeah but that's a That's his job, right? That's what I mean. Yeah, you always hear about GM and, well, this is the guy who actually made all the calls. Oh, you mean did his job? The assistant GM on a lot of teams, it's their job to make a lot of the calls. Well, and I think you look at the way he's performed. And then we were talking about last night, because Ken Holland catches a lot of shit, and he should for some of the moves he's made.

But he also should get a lot of flowers for some of the things. Like, listen, the Darnell Nurse contract, the Jack Campbell contract, did you have to – was Cody Ceci the guy? Didn't have to be. He's seven wins away from being on the ice to hoist the cup. That's it. And Matthias Ekholm, who cares what Edmonton gave up? I know it was Tyson Barry and stuff.

No, it was a very good deal. Incredible deal. Not a single Oilers fan on the planet regrets that deal. Zach Hyman's deal. Now, he might have lucked into that a little bit, but he knew he was getting a fantastic NHL. Nobody thought Zach was going to be 50 goals, Zach. No one on the planet Earth knew that.

So you look at that and you go, I look at those two guys and let's say only one of them goes to Columbus. I think it's obviously Don's looking like he's going. Maybe Kevin Ken, whose deal is up and he's probably on the way out in Edmonton. Maybe he's out to, you know, the Connor Brown deal wasn't great. But you can blame your president for that. uh the the thing i look at and i go okay columbus does need veteran leadership yarmo was not a general manager before he was a gm in columbus they could use a little boring they need they need boring and they need kind of been there before because what the columbus blue jackets

need is to bring the temperature down the babcock stuff higher having a coach you didn't want torts was always high you know it was high heat under torts that's the way he coached And then the guy that took over for him, I can't even remember his name, Columbus fans were like, oh, no. Oh, Larson? Larson. And Columbus fans were the first ones to say, this is a bad hire. And so sometimes veteran stuff kind of just –

it's like when Jim Rutherford took over in Vancouver. There were a lot of geysers that he had to put his hands on to kind of – like a lot of shit went wrong in his first year. But you look at the progression of the Canucks after that, The way that ownership has kind of calmed down. The way that the team has performed to the level of the talent that they have on the roster. There's definitely something there because the whole time you're going, well, I was going, the Canucks feel too good to be this bad.

And the next year comes and you're like, oh boy, still bad. They feel too good to be this bad. What's going on? And then they finally found the right mix. And they got rid of their captain. Ooh, bad guy. Yeah, shitty. Piece of shit.

Shitty. No, like it just... The right coach and the right president. Yeah. And also they were never... It helps when you're never supposed to be that bad. And I think if you look at Columbus's roster, there's a lot more talent there than results.

Yes. Well, need help up the middle. Yeah. But you have... First off, they have poorly managed their prospects. The way that they mishandled David Juracek, the way they mishandled Kent Johnson. Those things are, okay, Kent Johnson came to camp overweight or whatever it was. He was out of shape.

He's still your best center, so bag skate him and keep him up. Don't send him to the freaking Cleveland Monsters. You've got to kind of take a step forward here, and I think you need guys that understand how to bring a bunch of talented players together, and they do need a goalie. they need a goalie yes often helps when you can stop so we'll we'll see what happens but i i'm don i what do you think that deal's done by this afternoon like are we getting a friday afternoon news dump yeah yeah yeah that sounds about right also do you think uh and i don't know if this matters to a guy like tom dundon but steve let's say i was your boss okay i was your daddy and i was and every time please put your feet away uh every time you're contrary

sir i'm just trying to let me tell you about when i was a kid gripper nation professional work environment gripped the world uh are you gonna tell everly about i don't know i'm hoping there's a lot of stuff she just doesn't ask about we produce a lot of content so some of the stuff can get buried i'll tell uh but i i i i'm not looking forward to like the third grade when leo's like dad who's david ayers if every oh no i know if every time guys your contract came up and i as your owner despite the fact that you're regularly in the second round say yeah i'm not giving you shit yeah go interview with somebody else the first time you might be like okay i'm gonna negotiate back the second time you might be like yeah this is exhausting i don't want to do

this no that's exactly what i said with rod brindamore adam and he decided to stay because he wanted to uh waddell's done what else done he has he has something else he'd like to do rod brindamore wants to keep his family there he's been there forever that's fine that's great but he's leaving money on the table he's leaving money on the table to pursue happiness waddell's like meh there's lots of places i also think it helps when your kids are grown yeah that too rod's kids aren't grown yet and you don't want to be moving around when your kids aren't grown No. So, what do you need to see tonight from the...

We haven't talked about the Florida Rangers game very much. You know, it got a little disastrous in the third. So, no, believe me, I'm not just going to be like, it was boring. Like, it's not that it was boring. Florida Panthers played really, really, really good hockey. I don't know if the Rangers were quite as bad as the shot counter seemed to suggest.

They were missing high and wide on a lot of stuff. panthers were getting in the way the passion the uh spirit the rangers played with was unacceptable completely unacceptable and you said bad body language you kept saying horrible body language especially as the game got late it was over like it was over and and what's funny is like alexis lafreniere scored on his own friggin net and even he uh in the the final couple minutes was playing like the world would end if he didn't score the rest of the guy like i just expected so much more yeah they look so defeated on the bench they they didn't it looked like coming back and winning that game was completely impossible you know what i mean i do and it's 2024 like i'm used

to feeling like any lead is possible uh to overcome oilers were up two nothing last night i'm like meh and i was right that game went to double overtime you know uh we've seen three nothing leads evaporating these playoffs i think even four like at least be brought close and four one get taken down but they're down two nothing on home ice one nothing for most of it not even really able to generate any shots and just pouting about it it's not the new york rangers that i've come to know i was very just a one game thing it could just be a one game thing now obviously if you're a goaltender 10 the goal can we talk about that yes jesse can we talk about that sure igor's mistake to go out and play it and then laugh hitting the puck into his own net yeah that

wasn't last fault it was a little last fault but like it wasn't it wasn't really his fault well i don't know i blame the goalie for like okay if you're a goaltender tend the goal in certain situations leave the goal to play the puck properly the when a goalie leaves to play the puck the crux of the of them doing it the contract that they write up and sign with the rest of their team and everyone in attendance is I'm not going to fuck this up. You know, you leave the net to play. A defenseman gives it away.

Forward gives it away, whatever. Oh, oh no. Goalie might stop it. If a goalie gives it away, it's over. It's curtains. It's in the net. And this wasn't 100% that. Like, oh boy.

Look at that. like explain it for people listen go behind you all right so right in the middle of the screen you got shisterkin and he's way out of his net the rangers need a goal here there's 354 to go so he does have a defenseman right there that he could give the puck to in theory it's a bit of a dangerous area what i imagine he's trying to do and we can't see in the shot is advance the puck up the ice uh quickly so that the rangers can attack and if you let that uh who is that verhage if you let verhage get to the puck first he probably plays it by jesse's oh my god it's so bad here no stop stay on that one yeah stay on that one this is the so sir stricken's at the

face off dot and he's trying to hit the puck off the glass that's closest to him and up the ice and around Verhage. Right. So, like, you play it into the corner. Verhage gets it. It's not in a dangerous spot, but he wastes time. No, no, wait. No, no, because you say he plays into the corner.

If Shostakovich turns around and plays into the corner, it's not with Verhage at all. It rings around the board. That's what boards do. No, no, like, even if he just taps it into the corner and Verhage is the first one there. No, it would ring. No, and it just dies in the corner, Jesse.

It wouldn't. It would ring. the other scenario is he rings it around for god's sake or he plays it behind him or he advances it high up the like he did the one thing he couldn't do which

is pass it to Carter Verhage and Laff is just doing his job like Chris Kreider I like Chris Kreider coming to his defense he's like well no Laff's doing what he should be doing

I mean except for the whole hitting it into his net part but like you know there's another panther comes into the the screen and he's like yeah i'll cut off the pass which is what verhage was trying to do by the way and then oh tap right into the net and shisterkin it's funny early in the game i remember saying to the chat because again i don't cover these guys every single game so i'm getting to learn their tendencies like i don't even know if i've ever done a shisterkin series i've done a bob one i've done a panthers one i don't i don't know if i've ever done a rangers one and it took five minutes into the game for me to be like shisterkin plays the puck a lot

yep and drew as the producer for that stream was looking it up he's like i found this rangers thread from like 2019 about like oh shisterkin plays the puck too much and what ended up not costing the Rangers the game but definitely cost their chance to come back in this game was him leaving his net to play the puck not necessarily needlessly he probably needed to make a play on this puck but he did the one thing that you couldn't do which is hit the puck directly into the glass it dies right there and one of the most dangerous players left in the playoffs gets the puck i think the rangers would have won the race to the puck if he never played it based on this screenshot here he's trying to at this point like the clock is a factor

so what he's probably thinking is i gotta get the puck up the ice and even if verhage is the yeah you're right gus so who's that player who's the defender is it eric uh that i don't remember he's absolutely gonna be like he's gonna be the first one to this puck by like a pretty wide margin yeah never mind yeah like you know what what are you doing leave it but like oh what are you doing this is just pain it's over and over and over again it's pain uh one of the funniest uh tweets i saw miller i don't have my glasses on one of the one of the funniest tweets i saw was imagine spending 700 to go see that game and watch laugh score against

his own net or watch your first overall pick score against his own net and then going back to your uh 200 square foot two thousand dollar a month apartment dude i was like wow we're done don't throw stones in a high rent city like no no i know no it was a florida person chirping in new york person oh they uh i thought that was funny they uh they showed the some of the fans at msg and i saw in their face and in their expressions after that goal a very familiar expression of not just oh no my team lost but financial peril yes it had to be 700 bucks yeah just for everybody who's yelling at us. I got the screenshot

where he's turned around. 56, that's Gustafsson. Gustafsson. It is Gustafsson. I didn't have my glasses on and I saw a six. I'm like, that's one of them. 56, yeah, Gustafsson.

56. Oh, wait. No, Miller's 79. Keiondre Miller's 79. God damn it. I'm blind. Who's 55 on his... Lindgren.

Lindgren. Oh, I struggled very mightily with the jersey numbers. Did you? Yeah. It takes a couple of games to get them all down in your brain. I know who all these players are, but you're like,

wah, wah, wah, wah. You've got to get it really fast. I'll adapt. I've done it before. I've done it before. Game two is going to be frigging great, I tell you. Can I? Yeah, please, please.

You can. Can I? Because you said, can I? Carl? I said tonight. Oh, tonight. What are you expecting tonight? Tonight.

Oh, what am I expecting tonight? I don't know why I thought that question was for Jesse. No. No, you're streaming four times the charge. Trying to promote your stream. He is streaming tonight. No. What do we expect?

I don't know. I'll probably just do a stream. By the way, you owe it to yourself to try to distract Steve. No! Just give him just weird stats to drill down on. No! No, I expect a higher scoring game, obviously. That was essentially a 1-0 game.

Yep. Because it was an empty netter and an own goal. Yep. So I definitely expect more goals. the Rangers are going to solve Bob they're going to throw the kitchen sink at him to start the game they're going to try to get

Laff won I think Laff is going to have an incredible game because he scored on his own net and he's also just not a bad player I expect big things out of Chris Kreider who I really did not notice very much in that game

Panarin seemed to be like every time he got the puck he's like anyone? is anyone here? um and i wonder if they open the rempy door but like listen what you're gonna do mark messier no no listen your point was valid your point was valid you're like no the fourth line played really well and they should keep the fourth line together and i'm like you know what all right fair enough and then florida's fourth line kicked new york's teeth in ryan lomberg was a menace an absolute menace that whole unit was really really good um i just think that building needs

a little bit more energy in it and like it's funny like sometimes i hear myself say this shit and i'm like 2013 you would kick your ass and i have lived more life than that person i've i've seen uh a passionless team die over and over and over again and listen you you shouldn't put a player into your lineup if it's going to severely reduce your chances of winning yep i don't think putting rempy in does that no no no it just doesn't do it and the team needed the energy it felt like and he just or rather they just did not have it i expect a better effort from new york in this one it wasn't just what the panthers did to them um like i mean uh who was it kachuk rocked trochek i'm very interested to see if trochek feels better

i'm very interested to see if reinhardt feels better because he got rocked too I just expect a better energy performance from the Rangers. It looks like Kakko's going to be scratched based on the lines that came out of practice. He was pretty invisible. I don't know if that means Rempe's in, but Peter Laviolette was asked about it this afternoon, and this is what his response was.

Peter, I want to get clear. I'm not asking about the lineup at all tonight. They mic'd the reporter? What a country. Hold on. Sorry. Peter, I want to get clear. I'm not asking about the lineup.

it all tonight but uh yesterday if you turn on you know any hockey outlet the question they're talking about is will matt rent be playing game two and you know guys like wayne gretzky and mark messier and henrik lundqvist are the ones saying it too you can't really turn it off or turn away from it just curious how close you pay attention or if you totally ignore those conversations or if it even affects your decision making it does not i have any any decision that i make is who's laughing based on the conversations that we have as a group internally here and um you know it's uh there's there's all kinds of there's all you know you could pick any player you can ask 10 people and you might get seven and three or five and five i wonder where their absence of passion

decisions based on that shut up the players that we do put in the lineup we're hoping that they have a positive impact inside the game i think remy can be an important piece in the lineup tonight and sure i was seeing peter laviolette answer that question like i feel like he understands like okay the outside noise can't influence it but the on ice noise can and if if you need somebody to stand up there and and get people going matt rempey's that guy yeah bang crash um i i think trochek's gonna be fine because they were talking about his shoulder on on the broadcast but what the trainer was doing with him was working out his lat and I think what

might have happened is he got a rib or two knocked askew a little bit by that hit from Kachuk and it's not comfortable but it's a fixable problem he can play through it Reinhardt looked messed up so I'm very interested to see what

happens. You had thoughts on Peter Laviolette's face and his reaction there and his look towards the media? It's okay pros and cons uh pro they miked up the reporters yeah con someone in that room very obviously shit themselves look at his face i think he's just keeping it calm cool and no no go to the beginning of the clip what he doesn't want to be asked by the new york media about the lineup

okay there's a smile yeah i don't think he's back listen he's back with no sound he's got resting coach face yeah i feel like he's just a hard nose guy. Except for Knobloch, who looks consistently worried. You're telling me no one shit themselves in that room? I feel like he's just a hard-nosed guy listening to a question. Yeah! Go to those soft noses.

Go to the beginning of his answer, because I want to hear whoever that was in the room laugh. Yesterday, if you turn on any hockey outlet, the question they're talking about is, will Matt Rempe be playing game two? We got a podcast listener. Mark Messier and Henrik Lundqvist are the ones saying it too.

You can't really turn it off or turn away from it just curious how close you pay attention or if you totally ignore those conversations or if it even affects your decision making now it does not i have any any decision that i make that little when he's like it does not it does not and someone thought that was a real knee slapper yep that was a fun one uh i have one quick stat to run by you guys and then i've got a Quick thing on the Leafs. Okay, quick stat. With the potential $7 billion in annual rights deals looming with the NBA,

NBA players could make up to $95 million a year on Supermax contracts in the future. And that's post-next season. Arrest Gary Bepp. Meaning that one NBA player, and there will be Supermax deals signed, will make more than entire NHL rosters do. Arrest him. Because we're expecting the salary cap to go up to $93 million in two years, and we don't even fully believe it.

For a very brief moment, I'm like, does Adam Silver want it to get up to that number just to be like one player can make more than an entire NHL team? Or the correction to that thought that I had is, does Adam Silver spend a moment of his day thinking about the National Hockey League? The second one. Yeah. The second one.

In 2030, 2031, if Luka Doncic signs the Supermax contract that he is now eligible for because he made All-NBA, his one-year contract value in that season would be $78.8 million. So we're already almost there. How many NHL teams do not spend that much on salary entirely? What's the floor right now? Oh, it's like, wasn't it 70, 60? Yeah, I don't even know.

Yeah, Luka Doncic alone will make in 2030, 2031 more than teams will spend this season. This is going to be an all-time transition on this show. So we just talked about NBA players making $70, $80 million a year. Adam, what's your Leaf thing? My Leaf thing is, are you ready for this? Two players, Bertuzzi and Domi, the rest of the Matthews line, right? We'll start with Tyler Bertuzzi. There is actually mutual interest between Bertuzzi and the Leafs.

Now, the reason I say that is, of course, the Leafs are interested in Bertuzzi. They signed him last year. But you might say, is Bertuzzi not interested in the Leafs? I can tell you for a fact that he did not go into last summer going, yes, I want to be a Toronto Maple Leaf. They just happened to still be there on July 2nd. He tailor-hauled himself. Absolutely.

And so there is, the Leafs do want to re-sign him. There is interest on his part. He is coming off a one-year $5.5 million. He wants a long-term deal. We don't know what that number is going to be. However, we do have a sense of what Judd Moldover of Wasserman is expecting for Max Domi. Okay. Somewhere in the neighborhood.

Remember, Max made, what, three, three and a half this year? 70, 80, 90. No, no. Here's what Pierre Lebrun says. I would imagine five or six years, which you can see. What? He's a really good player. At five or six million dollars a year.

so the whole now he's already made 5.5 million a year whoa with the habs he had the habs deal that's nuts sorry and the whole discourse that i i've been seeing is that that's too much you think that i i feel like i feel like that's significant don't you it's a guy that had a he had i have been pounding the max stomy drums since game one i want to know what percent of the nba makes more than that oh god all of them doesn't matter let's stick to this conversation it matters a bit let's stick to this conversation though arrest gary betman uh arrest gary betman for sure figure out a chart and i love this guy and i love the way he plays he's guilty of nothing knowing that fact let's not go you're telling me he's guilty of nothing what about the leaf

signing max domi steve yeah you're right now max did have a bit of a down start but then they figured it out the end of the year he was great and i love the passion of the fire six million seems rich to me uh yeah like but that's the going rate for a guy that's no it's not i thought you wanted a long-term deal i thought you were made to be a leaf he is he is and he wants to be a leaf well i thought oh oh yeah oh yeah prove it no it's over it's over for this bullshit you want to play here act like it what's that take less yeah damn you want to play here act like i would i loved that player loved them ah we'll have to find someone else and and you do have to realize that that for the leafs to even consider getting either of those deals done at

term marner's got to go because they won't have the money and they have other things that they gotta solve right it's not that they don't have the cap space it's that they can't allocate that with four players making as much as they're making so yeah so i am not i'm looking at this and i wouldn't be terribly upset with four and a half to five million six years that doesn't bother me at all but once we get into the five and a half you're pushing it with me but the cap's going up okay fine but i i can't see six six is a lot and zadorov is supposed to get a deal like that too five and a half to six million bucks a year six years maybe more so wait they're gonna so the Leafs let's let's say they uh re-sign Max Domi okay and they re-sign Tyler Bertuzzi

okay so a minimum of four guys from last year's team are gonna make more and they're gonna get what was that word better fuck off well i think i'm so sick those guys those guys i don't think deserve your ire i think you're i think you're misdirecting your ire those guys showed up domi and bertuzzi showed up man they did they did they were they they did there's it i think you're you're misdirecting this at at years and years of inaction by the toronto maple east friend office and players that haven't got it done who make double what we're talking about if you're gonna if you're gonna direct your ire don't direct it at those two no i think those guys are here's what my eyes were great so the unfair part to domi and bertuzzi domi in particular

the unfair part is they shouldn't have to deal with uh my and a lot of the fan base's resentment towards players squeezing the lease for every dollar um you know that's not max domi's fault No, it's not Domi's fault how the Nylander negotiation and the Matthews and the Marner and all that, that's not his fault. Even the Kerfoot negotiation was low-key terrible. Jesus, Lord. How did you do that?

Jesus, Lord in heaven above. You know what is his fault and his camp's fault? This year-long propaganda campaign about, man, I love it here and I want to be here forever. don't you remember who my dad is and here's here's a here's a video of me on the ice go leafs go go leafs go six mil six mil in my palm long term well they got to start at a high number and the leafs got to start at a low yeah but i tell you what if it ends at that number i'm not into it can i not gonna end at that can i give you guys comparables give it to me so these are

contracts that are a cap hit between 5.5 and 6.5 million okay and we are i'll do the most recent signing so the signing date will cut it off 2022 so the top 10 or top 9 sorry most recent contracts that were signed between 5.5 and 6.5 million gustav forsling incredibly underrated defenseman 5.75 owen tippett 6.2 younger better trevor zegras 5.75 hagel 6.5 tom wilson 6.5 alex cologne 6.25 that's not a great dayman severson 6.25 and plays for columbus vladislav Gavrikov, 5.875, Andre Kuzmenko, 5.5. Those are the nine most recent contracts signed between 5.5 and 6.5. Does Max Domi fit in that window?

I think he's better than some of the players on that list. Some of them, yeah. But Brandon Hagel's obviously the steal. and that the thing is is that what what the leafs need to do with max is the same thing that the lightning did with brandon hagel now he was an rfa so it's different yeah max is a ufa uh but you you gotta say listen max we gotta we gotta find a middle ground here i think his camp would be open to that i don't think that they're i don't think it's a propaganda campaign i think he actually legitimately has always wanted to be here and was told no multiple times we know that

By the Dubas administration, they said, we are not interested. Well, he's not here anymore. I don't give a fuck about that guy. But what I'm saying is Domi has, this isn't propaganda. He legitimately wants to play here. And he plays like how I want Toronto Maple Leafs to play. Whether or not he's perfect. Put the Leafs money where your mouth is.

Okay. But it's got to be him and everybody. That's got to be the team policy going forward. Don't put this on Max. Don't put it on Max. Don't put it on Tyler. Don't put it on Brad for a living. Put it on Brendan Shanahan.

yeah no like here's here's the the difference between this and years past is in years past i think the fan base was like oh what if they leave oh what if they leave i hope they stay i don't think anyone gives a fuck if anyone leaves you stink you keep losing boo boo and fart hiss get out yeah because before we're like there's so much potential here there's so much potential and now we're like oh actually there's nothing they're a bunch of fucking bottle merchant i think i think you're i think that you had a bad sleep last night i did and i think you're a little grouchy because i think you i think you're wearing your grouchy pants right now i am and that's fair right like i'm not trying to but listen let me tell you something let me tell you something who

got you fired up fired up more than max domey on the nights that he gets you fired up there are there is toronto maple leafs of the of the recent years have been accused of many things but the thing that they need to be accused of more is having no emotion i remember game three jesse and i are watching from the scotia bank box because i'm a billionaire yeah that's not a lie and and john tavaris gets punched in the face or something and i look at jesse and i go it would be nice just once for john to react emotionally to anything and then all three of us were at a game against vancouver on i think remembrance day yeah where someone i think it was ian cole hit nick Robertson, and Max Domi grabbed

him and pounded him. The two guys last season who showed the most emotion on this team were Max Domi and Ryan Reeves. And if they wanted an emotional jolt, they got it out of those two guys, for sure. 100%. When he did those things and was beloved,

he made three million bucks. I agree. You make double that, your perception changes. You make double that, your perception changes. You know that a negotiation, I agree with you, by the way. You're absolutely right. But you know in negotiation – because here's where –

do you think Pierre Lebrun got that information from the team? No. They got it from the agent. He quotes the agent. It's Judd. Not Darren Ferris anymore. Get wrecked. Yeah, it's Judd.

So Judd's saying, we want six. And the Leafs will be like, that's cool. We want four. And it'll be somewhere in the middle of that. Hopefully. That's what it'll be. Hopefully. By the way –

I have a hard time disagreeing with Steve being upset because if anybody knows the team and the guys and the contract, it's probably Steve. Well, maybe this time it'll work out. No, but hold on a sec. The guy that signed those deals isn't here. You said you don't care. This is the new guy.

Yeah, same crest. Okay, come on. Sign for less, win some games. Let's not do that. Sign for less, win some games. Boo. Boo. Nothing you've said is – you're going about it in the grumpiest way possible,

but nothing you've said is entirely wrong. And Max is the wrong guy to be directing your anger at. The team hasn't won. I want to welcome Jesse to his first episode of the Steve Daniels podcast. Because you sound both surprised that I'm grumpy and right. And I've got to tell you why I'm consistently both. Damn it. I should mention this.

The Islanders and Blackhawks have made a trade. It is draft picks only. They've swapped firsts, but the Isles get two seconds out of it. First? In May? In May. What? What are the Islanders cooking?

I wonder. So Chicago will get the number 18 pick and they will, they will get the, their second round pick will be the number 50 pick from the Islanders. They have traded the number 50 or the number 20 pick. Cause Chicago had a, okay. And the Islanders will get number 20,

number 54, number 61 visual. This will be the Blackhawks will get number 18 and number 50. So the Blackhawks, they move up two spots in one and four in another. yeah you're right oh okay and none of the picks that that the blackhawks gave to the islanders are island or blackhawks picks their tampa bay kings in vancouver it cost chicago a whole ass second round pick to move up two picks in the first round and four on the four picks in the

second round yeah a second it feels like lula amorella just came in there and took their lunch money yeah fleeced oh my goodness what do you what an overpay what do you guys think is going on here uh okay this is the sort of deal that would happen on the draft floor and you don't even bat an eye like this is the sort of deal that happens on draft day and well i mean you bat an eye you react to it for two spots no no no no second wait a second wait a second this is the sort of deal that happens all the time on draft day and we would be reacting to it on draft day we're getting distracted by the exorbitant price chicago paid which is a lot it's quite a bit well it's the 61st pick they paid the 61st pick to move up two spots in the first round and

four spots in the second round yes i know that's the price they paid it feels rather significant that they did it on may 24th what's oh here wait i need to be on screen i need to be on screen okay here we go why is that chicago and new york made a trade that we always see at the draft a month before the draft you're not saying anything why is that that's what i am that was my question you're beating the trade why is that i would assume uh because the islanders are getting the extra pick that they're the ones unloading a pick to someone for another deal what so the islanders why why did they make this trade today it does not make sense this this is what i'm saying though it doesn't make sense this is

a statement jesse not a question okay it doesn't make sense that this deal was made a month ahead of the draft this is chewbacca it yeah that does not make sense which was a statement also no it This is the sort of deal we would see at the draft and be like, oh, Chicago must really want someone who's available at 18, or they must really want someone who's available at 50 because they're still available. And we know this because we've seen the first 15, 16, 17 picks.

Exactly. But it's May 24th, so why the hell did they make this trade? Something's up. i would assume the something's up is on the islanders end of it uh like this is a trade where two first rounds picks changed hands yes that never happens outside of the draft almost never and it happened a month ahead of the draft why is that is it lou that's up to something or is it jd that's up to something it has to be the chicago side because they gave it They gave up the assets.

Kyle Davidson. KD. Well, he has a new nickname. Yeah. Kraft Dinner. Kyle Davidson has to be doing something here to want those two spots. I love that people are making trades in the playoffs more now, by the way. Can we look at how many picks the Blackhawks have now and how many picks the Islanders have?

Because, I mean, a really silly explanation would just be, oh, the Blackhawks have too many damn picks. so you might as well move up but moving up two slots yeah for a second or six total that's weird you would never give up a second i know it's 61 the only other thing i can think of can so can you go back well here let's look at the islanders first so you're on the black hawks page you want the islanders let's go to the islanders page like are they low on draft picks or something no they just gained one so they were previously low on picks or no they weren't no what the hell is going on what they they had two and they have a third now for no for moving down two spots do you think that lou wanted to have a full draft this year and so he's like i'm willing to move

down a couple spots give me two seconds it makes up for the fact that i don't know why would i say yes to that no he doesn't have a first now because he just traded it i know but he's no he does have that was the first no they he had his own first and he's replaced it with the tampa i know that but what he doesn't have is a third and so i'm wondering if he wants to have seven picks why would kyle do that why is that i i want to hear so can you go back to what those picks are not helpful at all guys so the blackhawks get two islanders picks i don't think anything of that the islanders get three picks belonging to three different teams like are they flipping any of those does a team need a pick back in order to make the threat of an offer sheet remember the

leaves did that yeah it was years and years ago but it was for the phil kessel deal they wanted to hold the threat of an offer sheet to phil kessel over the bruins but the problem was the leafs did not have one of their own picks to meet the uh requirements offer sheet criteria criteria um for the deal so they had to reacquire one of their picks are the islanders going to give one of these picks back to the lightning the kings the canuck why wouldn't kyle just do that then that like this might just be a regular ass pick for pick trade but may 24th no it doesn't pass the smell test davidson decided i'm in a wildly overpay to move up two spots is i think just that's the simplest explanation i got you're underestimating the cost of moving up

two slots well six total because he also moved up on the second round too from 54 to 50 it's a lot it's a lot jesse it's a lot that's that's all i want you guys to get at is that he paid a lot of draft capital meaning one whole last second round pick yeah to move up two slots in the first round yes it doesn't seem to make sense when you don't even know how the draft board has laid out yet maybe chicago's trying to move up like again they're gonna flip it again i mean they have a month they might as well like this this is where it's a trade partner that's like no i don't want anything in the 20s i want something in the team i want an 18 and then i will give you the next bedard it's it's significant that this deal happened today it is yeah yeah

it's significant no for sure for sure this happened today something's going on something's fishy this is all right ridiculous well listen why don't we wrap the show there because it's been long we've gone long why don't we wrap the show there one thing uh i gotta clarify from last show um i said mike sullivan and john cooper were up for the four nations face-off and the team canada head coaching job yeah i meant uh rod brindamore and uh john cooper i see that's so my because mike sullivan is the team usa head coach for the olympics and uh the four nations face-off and i got all my international head coaches confused so there you go um thank you thank you for letting me clarify that yes before we go 11 players have played for the leafs rangers and panthers in their

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