The Steve Dangle Podcast - Feline Good | June 25, 2024

Episode Date: June 25, 2024

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Back at it. Pew, pew, pew. S-D-P. Back at it. Woo! S-D-P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle, Adam Wilde, and Jesse Blake. Steve just kicked the Oilers off his desk.

There you go, and you give the cup to the Navy Blue Panthers. That cup, by the way, came from one of the packages of, is it Jack Eichel holding the cup? I think I took it out of... more mark stone i took it out of mark stone yeah it's not yours anymore is is coupless in in the uh in the little toys that we have because red dead redemption is complete for the florida pamphlet that by the way is from our good friends who you give us these we love them mcfarland that's right mcfarland toys sorry jack eichel we've taken the cup away from you mark stone i just said oh it's mark stone sorry not jack sorry jonathan march so so guys listen sorry mark andre flurry hey jesse

Can you do me a favor? Yes. I sent you something. Did you guys see the big event last night? The Allmark trade? No. Did you guys see the big event last night? The call their cup.

No, no. Although, congratulations to the Hershey Bears. Alex Morello frigging off? No, not even that. The big event. I did see that. Did you see the big event? Justin Timberlake had pulled over again.

He's like, Adam, what are you getting at? Not even the 200,000 people that tuned into your stream last night. That was not the big event. And no, it wasn't game seven of the Stanley Cup final. It was this. the anaheim ducks when does it start uh n64 mario kart stream last night during the game no way they ran a pretty funny bit i thought it was funny and about 10 000 people tuned in too who so i love i didn't know who the guys were i don't know them

either oh no so are they prospect i think i didn't pay too much i didn't pay too much attention to it either i just i just saw the tweet and i thought it was funny yeah i don't know who where armando is but he looks like he means freaking business look at that guy that's fun i just thought that that was that's absolutely fantastic isn't that great no good for them that's good that was you know what a very funny little troll job i like that i you know good for you have fun with it uh they i will say this uh the host did a good job too oh yeah like the ducks have been in the news a lot lately because their new logos leak like 200 times in like 800 different ways yeah i don't know if you guys have been paying attention oh yeah but like they're updating

their app it's been it's been in the arena people are changing signs and they keep delaying this announcement but we've all seen it by now no because they just keep leaking they should peer luke to quiet and just really like when there's a player move that shows up in the caps shows up on twitter oh they've done like it's already been out there what do you think's holding it up is it that they couldn't get the jerseys printed on time oh i don't know maybe that they they thought i think the teases heated up as it looked like the cup final was going to wrap up quick right and then the oilers screwed it all up oh yeah by winning all those damn games that's fair that's fair that's fair now uh last night if you were watching in canada uh you could have been watching

in united states you could have seen steve stream which was great again 200 000 views which is pretty spectacular thank you all for tuning in a big shout out to cassie and the cassie clan cassie gang uh dropping all those subscriptions we love you cassie we appreciate you thank you and everybody else who did it too it's uh it was huge and those streams got all three of us had the pleasure of doing those streams this playoff and boy they're a lot of fun oh they're just they're awesome they're spectacular and it was uh it was great subject matter um it's nice when the games don't suck yeah it was a great playoff this year and the story doesn't suck no it was a fantastic playoff i didn't really do a boring game no um uh you know i did nashville vancouver yeah well

you did for sure series uh i so i lucked out in that regard but um no it's brilliant brilliant subject matter brilliant hockey and i'm glad it was decided by one goal now a lot of people were were wondering and and and you know people that haven't seen the streams lately uh oh why when i'm watching steve side stream can i not see the game well we don't own the rights to the footage because we're not a billion dollar monopoly but i'll tell you who is biopoly i'll tell you who is ESPN. Yes, they're big. Now, last night, Jesse, did you see the clip I sent you? I did see this. Yeah. Yeah. Now we have to freeze frame our way through this. But last night they had a whole setup with Gary Bettman and Sasha Barkoff. Here we go. Sasha

Barkoff, Gary Bettman. Now let's fast forward just a little bit here because we want to see what happens. There's Barkoff. He skates off with the cup and they miss him. And then they get him on the other side from a different angle and he's already lifted the cup. Oh, no. So ESPN missed

Barkov's cup lift last night because he skated off too quickly. Oh, no. He was supposed to stay with Gary and lift the cup.

He makes a beeline to the left side of the screen. The cameraman loses him. Yeah. Yeah. So the first Stanley Cup raising

that Barkov does wasn't shown on ESPN and they get the second one. So right now, off screen he's raising the cup for the first time and the cameras pointed at Baptist Health Zamboni entrance they got to be thrilled about that Baptist Health

yeah Sportsnet to their credit did get it yes of course they had a different camera it's like they've done this before yeah yeah man you got one job when it comes to the cup well and I think they wanted him to do it in front of the front of Gary and Gary and the Logan whatever but a player

is going to be like yeah okay yeah carry it to their teammates the cameraman clearly thought he was going to come straight and then raise the cup there and he could get it in frame. But none of that happened. I think one of the greatest cup raising moments I can remember. Ben Smith with the Marley. Ben Smith with the Marley's.

Yes. No, Joe Sackick with the Avalanche in 1996 when he raised the cup and the team was a couple feet to the left and he said, come on, boys. And they all jumped in around him. It's not even the Joe Sackick moment I thought you were going to bring up. What's the other one? Him and Raymond Bork. That was great.

After 22 years, Joe Sackick, man, every time he raises it, he does something special. But they had, I think they need to go back to that angle. Whatever angle they had or that camera that year, they did it right that year. Because having, what annoys me about basketball and football and the way they award the trophies, they give it to the owner. And I think the NHL does that right.

But the NHL is such a team sport that if you're going to have, if you want the Panthers thing with the fireworks in the background, you better let the team get in there. Otherwise, the player's just going to skate off. Luongo was like the 30th guy to touch the cup last night, maybe even further back. Really? Yeah. Well, I went to every player, then every member of the coaching staff.

And then I think like Bill Zito. And it took him forever. Paul Maurice got it mid-interview with Emily Kaplan. That was cool. That's cool. That was fantastic. Now, there's a couple of things that have happened. I want to show you some of the party picks before we get into the actual game.

All right. So I just sent one to Jesse. And this is of a young man. Before we get to there, let's just finish it off. The last one. Oh, here's the actual cup raising. Oh, I won't play. Oh, sports.

And I had the actual cup raising. I just want to show Barkov actually raising the cup. Oh, I'm sorry. I can't get the picture. Barkov. No picture. One above the other, which is what you have to do. If you're watching ESPN.

Hmm. You got to imagine. Oh, here we go. Hold on. Jesse's got it. Jesse's got it. There it is. So they.

So the same thing happened. They were running the same camera feed. but whoever's in the truck for sports net realize i don't know if they were on a better delay where it's like we know this is coming where he's going to skate off they immediately switch to this camera and they get the initial cup i bet it was dome productions and i bet that that guy whoever's running that guy or gal who whoever's running the the feed knows that these guys are going to skate like mad when they get it yeah so shout out so great shout out the truck operator in in at sports net who was on the ball there and got the actual cup raising as barkov went away from the initial

it might be mark asking stuff yeah i don't know either way good stuff um jesse i sent you i'm going to be sending you a lot for the first start of this show so i apologize in advance but i sent you this this one particular picture now steve's got a favorite you got a favorite guy on the panthers who doesn't draw in every game but you really like him uh ryan lomberg ryan lomberg yeah right why do you like ryan lomberg because uh he is in the nhl because he tries so damn hard he does he he he's like nathan mckinnon in that he skates like he hates the ice but with none of the talent you know what i mean and i don't say that as like a as like disrespect right um it's just sometimes very often he'll have a shift or two per game where he'll do something with the puck

and you go ryan longberg because he just wants it more than you yeah that's it well he wanted the cup more than you he also wants it in the gym more than you check this out holy that's shit ryan longberg my god you know what's funny rip like an old shirt it's so unnecessary there's like there's no reason for you to have those muscles to play hockey that well you can be a great nhl player and not look like that that's how you know he's committed to the bulk damn well i mean he's also holding a uh stanley cup look at the vein popping out come on he's oh i know if you're listening to this ryan lomberg search it up he is pouring i think for uh uh carter haggie and carter for haggie still has his jersey and his his shoulder

pads on and jesse's right lomberg's like nah nah screw that what i got he went to the pierre engvall school of i'm not wasting this bod like look the room's full of cameras here everyone look at this he's doing the randy orton pose like you know that he's gonna get that framed it's gonna be in his basement oh yeah you know he's gonna say give me the one with my nipple ryan your face isn't even in it yeah but my nipples touching the cup it's uh it's like a hair oh it's a nipple hair away from the cup and he's got the long hair yeah he does have the long hair now that's a gem there's a jesse i accidentally just sent you something that i want for after but there's one between lomberg and what i just sent you and what i just sent you i want you to tell

me who this player is because this player okay is he's he's doing the the proposal pose you know one knee up one knee down you know will you will you tell the proposal yeah the proposal pose but the cup is full of liquor presumably uh and it's being poured over his face got it okay and his mouth is wide open but it's poured over his face and i actually don't know who it is so i'm wondering if you so he's just being like waterboarded but oh my god who is that they're super skinny uh judging by how skinny they are and the socks i'm no i'm gonna say old i'm gonna say that's sergey bobroski you know i can tell you who it is you can tell us yeah do you want to know yeah what's your guess let's guess you say i'm gonna say it's one of

the goalies i was gonna say spencer knight oh no but he's got the young yeah the i'm gonna say i'm gonna say one of the goalies i'll say sergey bobroski adam who's your guest i said spencer knight so i'll stick with that it's nico micola oh wow nico micola yeah is that skinny yeah i'm surprised remember remember the last picture where i told you it was unnecessary to play hockey with that kind of you might have a point jesse lomberg just loves the gym and all credit to him because i like the gym's cool it's pretty good he's just committed to the ball because i was saying you know this is me this is mikula who's also a stanley cup champion and he's not that jacks no no no no that i'm listening everybody's got their thing yeah is that dimitri kulikov who's pouring

it that's that's one of the funniest cup pouring videos i've ever friggin seen it's there's no reason to do that it was from micola's girlfriend's instagram story incredible she uh she took that photo and let's go boys that's in your nose for several hours afterwards a lot of beer yeah a lot of beer now um jesse i sent you a video and these are all videos we can actually play which i'm thrilled about so as of right now from what we understand the guys are still partying and oh and they're partying at a bar called elbow room which has gotten a lot of play on social media rightfully so it's right on the beach it's open it's exactly what you would want a florida bar to be right you're on the strip you're you're partying it's wide open and people

are hanging around the bar partying with these guys again they've been going all night at this point and i'm pretty sure as of this recording they're still going uh this video though is hilarious because they decided to leave okay and they thought what should we do what's the bar tab show me the bar they're coming back to the bar like i don't think the tab's done yet but okay but you just i want you to watch this security camera footage because this is elbow room if you look at the bottom there put your glasses on there steven get those spectacles on waiting for traffic to go by there's a fire truck and there's a van just wait just wait hang on there's another car have you got to describe it for the audience so what you're

seeing right now is a guy holding something at the bottom of the screen and he seems to be by himself and he's the guy with the cup it's what i believe it's matthew matthew chuck yeah he's just standing there i saw the pictures of him and brady in the elbow room with the cops i assume right now let's fast forward to he's just hoisting it he's hoisting it and he's going to the beach now hang on he's doing what everyone should do he's doing now hang on we got uh he had somewhere he wanted to be no jesse has the next i just sent it to you jess the next video which is a little bit more of a close-up this is from dave 954 fla uh who is a reporter down there uh he's got the belt the 900 that's the 900 yeah belt and then there's there's kachuk and there he goes running

into the ocean was that matthew yeah that's right and there's a dude with a kachuk jersey he following him into the ocean oh yeah there he is yeah what just fell is that his goggles or his hat he's never gonna see that again that's gone that's fun now paul maurice also so he's holding the uh florida panthers championship wwe belt that we mentioned was it on a vip or a regular episode i forget i forget but justin fisher last night sent it to us because now it's on sale for the public it costs 888 dollars american american on the fanatic shop are you kidding me why it's like 1200 canadian or something if the leafs want it i'm sure people would buy it but like i don't know how many you priced out a lot most of the world unless it's like like there

should be like one that's made from like legitimate gold and then the other one that's like the cheap knockoff version that you have in your house i'm the the one that's 800 looks like the cheap knockoff version you can get like 200 bucks you can get like a really shitty used car it should be or the championship belt the nhl should be like you should end the league for charging that much money for yeah that's crazy and fanatic fold fanatics for charging 800 for that stupid bill it's ridiculous no way that belt's worth 900 no it was made for 20 bucks you're right you'll see it's priceless oh stop what although you know what jesse we say this and then steve would probably go out and buy it at the least one i'd go into financial parallel fanatics that's all i want to

say paul maurice uh famously said last night on the broadcast uh at least in the canadian broadcast that f word 800 times that but also he saw sam bennett smile for the first time in two years yep and sam bennett is still smiling and i can i can prove it to you do you want to see this video from dave 954 fla who's dave 94 this guy's the star yeah well he's a reporter and uh and so this is a fan that wanted to drink out of the cup and matthew kachuk and sam bennett said let us help you with that except he's a floor down what here you go right over the bar at elbow room did bennett already shave oh he dropped it so far that rules that rules hard oh yeah oh yeah look at this isn't this great okay two floors down they're pouring it he's wearing the belt freaking living

his best life um and he gets a big old mouthful of it they poured it dead accurate he's the only one who got beer on him yeah that was fantastic good job from them boy that's the best shot they've taken these playoffs yeah steve is that sam bennett i'm not sure well the reporter says it's sam bennett so yeah did he literally shave on the ice he must he must have shaved like it looks like he's only partially shaved there is he partially no i think he must have taken an electric razor and just yeah is that what sam well yeah because he looked like a freaking colonial two days ago he's got a fucking playoff beer yeah no he must know that is sam bennett yeah definitely sam bennett just shaved it he shaved in like an hour adam didn't recognize him he

didn't choke slam anyone but yeah there he is yeah there he is with the stuff that it hated that playoff yeah he got rid of it i like it though i thought it was our next manscape dad uh it's not this week okay you guys could shave my playoff beer but can we if we don't have one and then we well you know what let me put in a request maybe then maybe we can get a manscape i'll bring in the five i would love to do that can we do that on the we did steve's last last we did it was gross when the Leafs got eliminated it was disgusting by the Panthers yes Jesse your playoff beard does look very good though let's have a look yeah we'll get we'll get rid of it looks good and uh the next you really pull a beard off well I'm thank you it's very good

this is for the playoffs yeah I just kind of kept it going for the playoffs yeah so I'm just gonna run through a bunch of stuff okay because the game obviously was about as closest you can get even the deserve to win a meter was like it's about 50 50 oh really most of the time anyway through the first two periods i didn't check it after the third who cares no um like really who cares now i will say this the team that won the second period won the game yeah and people are chirping me about that but it's true um here's how the florida panthers built their stanley cup winning defense oh now it's oilers deserve to win a meter there you go Why is it moving?

Because it's doing simulations. Oh, got it. I was like, wait, the game's been over for quite some time. So the Oilers pushed it at the end, obviously, and that pushed it over. But, you know, there's some score effects and stuff in there and whatever. It doesn't really matter.

Florida won. The Panthers built their defense like this, and this is one of our favorite guys on Twitter, Kevin Pappetti. Aaron Eckblad, first overall pick. Actually, I'm going to guess and see if you can guess how they got these players. Okay.

So Aaron Eckblad's an easy one. How'd they get Gus Forslund? waivers i think they got him off waivers he has an argument to be the greatest waivers pickup of all time i think you're dead on on that one uh brandon montour how'd they get him uh i think they got him in a trade with the buffalo sabers for how much oh i think it was a lot you said fifth round pick i want to say it was like a first round pick third third round pick got him oh no the sabers paid a fortune to get him yeah i think from anaheim and he didn't it didn't work well in buffalo it was not good in buffalo no nazim kadri said and you could hear it on microphone

during a confrontation i think this is when kadri was in his first year with the avalanche he told montour you're a shitty fucking hockey player on a shitty fucking team oh it's a good diss and now he's people said didn't sydney crosby say that to him that's at one point uh cross i'm not uh i remember him and kadri getting into it um Subban said that about like Zdorov Drew Dowdy said that about Patrick Maroon oh that's good it's so good like I don't know why it tickles me whenever a hockey player is just like you suck at hockey yeah yeah not like you're a bum I could kick your ass no you stink at sports it's gonna take a long time to make it through this list let's get there's only three more to go okay

only three more yeah no no just the defense okay just the defense so we have Ekblad for a first Forsling is a waiver claim Montour for a third and by the way Ekblad was a first overall pick it wasn't four for Dimitri Kulikov I think he was a free agent acquisition okay

how much oh man like a work with Jesse on this like you guys are working together I think like a million dollars how much does Kulikov make yeah not currently what was he signed for oh what was he what do you mean well oh yeah he's actually that's what he meant yeah I'm dummy sorry

um 2.2 want to meet in the middle what would the middle be oh no what is 1.6 i said a million okay 1.6 let's do it steve was right damn one million dollars oh wow one million dollars one year one billion oliver eckman larson how did they get him the canucks retained and are still paying uh no the canucks bought him out i think oh they bought him out oh they signed him i want to say it was 3.25 jesse what do you think all of reckman larson makes for the panthers 2.8 2.25 oh wow one year deal oh i thought it was more than that nico micola how'd they get him he was a free agent signing he was with the blues then he went to the rangers then he was a free agent some milk three year 2.5 million per three year 2.5 million per so here's the here's the best

part about kevin's tweet act blad takes up 7.5 million dollars the other five take up 11.92 million dollars in cap space and nearly half of that is forcibly yeah oh my god yeah isn't that crazy isn't that crazy uh you should know that drake placed a 500 000 bet on the app that he's associated with uh those aren't real those aren't real but he said 500 000 bet on the edmonton oilers which he didn't lose because even if you're betting on your own app you're still making money those are ads and by the way they're ads so his own app well he's he doesn't he's sponsored by that oh i thought he had like drake bets no i think it's called steak it's like a crypto kind of betting thing oh he's sponsored by them and he does little streams with them and everything so

those bets aren't real oh they're a formula one sponsor too there's yeah steak steak f1 team yeah yeah steak uh they didn't even think about like because aren't there restrictions on how how broadcasters can yes uh call out that team name well because in certain districts yes there is and and it's also that that the sauber group that they're sponsoring which will soon be called audi uh are based in switzerland and switzerland it's not legal so they named they called them the the stake f1 team but now they can't because switzerland the swiss uh authorities were like you can't call it that you're based here it's illegal you can't you literally you cannot be You cannot advertise gambling in Switzerland.

So in some parts of the world, they call it Stakeout Fun Team and you can't in some parts of Europe? Essentially. Yeah, as a team name, which is hilarious. After 17 seasons and 1,051 games played,

Kyle Ocpozo got a Stanley Cup. And that was the guy I was most excited about because he played for the shitty Sabres and before that, the shitty Islanders. He had one of the best days of anyone on planet Earth. Why is that? because he won the Stanley Cup after over a thousand games and he

activated a bonus in his contract where when he wins the Stanley Cup he gets $500,000 and guess who has to pay it no not the Buffalo Sabres the Buffalo Sabres have to pay the bonus no yes no Rob Taub reported this

on Twitter as if the Stanley Cup wasn't sweet enough for Kyle Agpozzo he now gets a $500,000 bonus for winning it all which has to be paid by the buffalo sabers oh now it puts the panthers into 500 grand worth of overage for next season roughly i read but the fact that the sabers have to pay it yeah oh yeah yeah that's tough last night we had reinhardt montour kulikov rodriguez and akpozo five x sabers yes wow wow isn't that insane so go through that list again reinhardt montour kulikov rodriguez

and okpozo rodriguez i'd like to that's that's the sabers built the cup for the florida so i'd also like to say that craig revay who's a former saber uh former canadian uh he said buffalo the best development team in the nhl eichel cup o'reilly cup bogosian cup rodriguez cup kula cup cup montour cup reinhardt cup wow he left out okpozo okpozo cup and here's uh here's the other thing that you you'll love he hates the sabers in 2017 yeah who interviewed to be the sabers general manager in 2017 craig rivet bill zito blue jackets agm bill zito wow And they said, eh. And they went, eh.

Oh, no. Is that when they hired Kevin Adams? I think that would have been 2017. No, that's pre-Kevin Adams. Botterill, I think. Right after Tim Murray is Botterill, which lasted a year. Oh, no. Yeah, that's rough.

Oh, dear. Now, Sam Reinhardt said after the game, I don't want to leave. I want to be here. CJ, that tracks with what CJ was reporting going into the series. Yep. i feels like with this sort of thing um you get two sides that want to get it done they get it done yep it what's great for reinhardt is he gets whatever he wants the number is whatever he wants um if he wants to stay in florida and florida goes we can give you this many and he's bounded

determined to stay there he signs for that many um if he wants to go to unrestricted free agency he signs for the moon and several other celestial bodies he scored over 50 goals he had 94 points he had a good stanley cup playoff and he scored the stanley cup winning goal you get whatever the hell you want you can't go into free agency better than what sam reinhardt did it's pretty good huh pretty good pretty good now um i'm looking at this and uh i also i love this quote Shout out to my fans in Calgary. You know, I couldn't let Edmonton win. That's Matthew Kachuk.

I saw that. Calgary fans were rooting for him. How do we feel about Corey Perry, who did win the cup, but is the first player in NHL history to lose the Stanley Cup final four times in five years with four different teams? The mathematical odds of that happening are just, they're insane. Like, this will never happen again. People were calling him the reverse Pat Maroon.

it's i will say this people are acting like he has never won the cup and you'll never be able to no matter how many memes you make you'll never be able to scratch cory perry's name off the cup you'll never be able to do it he's there forever and ever amen he won it in 2007 that being said this is nuts it's crazy this is psychological warfare like but if i was an acquiring team and he's a free agent this year i'd be like you know what i'll take a finals appearance yeah why not i'll take it i'll take the revenue for sure listen i would take the leafs in the second round i would i would take the least in the can you imagine what we would do with the leafs in the third round profit well not only that i would just be on fire every day thinking about the game like

i would just every day i'll take it man dude i don't know i can't make fun of a guy for making the stanley cup final and just happened happening to lose before different teams i don't know it's kind of funny it's pretty funny funny that it's him it's funny that it's pretty funny it's i mean you make an entire career off of being a dick yeah call you the worm just yeah his nickname is the worm and it's not because he dances it's because he's a complete hunk of shit when he takes the ice off the ice yeah i'm sure he kisses babies and donates the hospitals whatever whatever the moment you put a hockey stick on his hand and put him on an ice surface he's a hunk of garbage and that's why people are cheering against him and cory perry he'll one day be a hall of famer

yes i would easily steve dangle's favorite line is it's not the hall of fame of really good guys i don't yeah he doesn't fit into that conversation i think his on ice play wouldn't lend itself yeah yeah the hall of fame probably it would lend itself to more of the hall of not really good guys although i don't really under i don't know what happened in chicago you know like i think People forget how he got to Edmonton. It's kind of funny that he lost. Four different teams. It's unbelievable.

Four different teams. The most career Stanley Cup playoff game seven goals by an active NHL player last night. It's tied by it's tied with seven different players. Can you name them? Matthias Janmark. Yeah. Corey Perry. Yep.

Cody CC Scott. By the way, if you want to, Jesse, as well. What's the question? the most career playoff game seven goals recorded by an active player i'll say brad marshand because i know he had two in 2011 all these players have four by the way yeah no it's not brad marshand really um active players uh i got nothing okay so according to stats center which is tsn's sn stats basically uh it is yan mark ovechkin oh really nice four of them okay cory perry yeah logan couture oh okay i believe that i believe that tyler toffoli i believe that yeah

david pasternak uh well you're welcome and andre burakovsky andre burakovsky all right isn't that wild wow i some of these names make me uncomfortable to say out loud because i'm like i don't i don't remember like you should know that yeah you don't i don't remember that but isn't that a wild stat it doesn't mean anything but it's wild playoff stats take place over such a long period of time you know what i mean like you have years and years to forget these things yes you know what i mean yes andre burakoski yeah isn't that nuts because i feel like i i don't know if he had any with the capitals he probably did but he well if ovechkin did i'm assuming burakovsky did he was really strong with the um avalanche and i wonder he must have had at least one or two

in that game seven against vegas that year wow now producer drew in his way um was jacked the oilers lost yeah super jacked the oil yeah and we'll never miss an opportunity to take a stab at the Leafs too right oh let's so here's the tweet here's the tweet Connor McDavid after losing game seven in the Stanley Cup final we were right there right there John Tavares 52 days ago we're right there yeah no there's levels to this there's levels to this the Oilers were legitimately right there the Leafs uh were also in the playoffs two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th join thousands in toronto for the princess margaret cancer

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at A&W at participating A&W locations in Ontario. Do you agree with Connor McDavid? I can't believe this is a thing, by the way. And I'm pretty sure I know how you guys are going to answer this. But do you agree with Connor McDavid not coming onto the ice to accept the Kahn-Smythe trophy? Yeah, that's the captain of his team.

He hugged every player as they went to the dressing room, by the way. Yeah. Every player on the team. Connor McDavid's obligation is to the Edmonton Oilers, not the Kahn-Smythe trophy. um it's not his obligation to go on the ice to get booed um and take a miserable picture um for us to laugh at forever um we've connor mcdavid has taken plenty of photos with people where people just go ha look at the man with the silly face there's that picture at the airport

um you know there are people following him to his car did you see that really uncomfortable video from like a week or two ago yes following him to his car and amen and like they're being nice but also get the fuck out of my car um that my defense of connor mcdavid not posing with the con smith trophy is the last time a player won the con smith and lost the stanley cup was 2003 js jaguar go and look at that photo it's the saddest man it's the world's saddest man there has never been a sadder man uh go to any funeral go to any uh any any whatever you won't find a photo of a sadder man that is the world's saddest even when connor looks happy he looks sad yeah that would be a super sad photo yes so uh like j is to get part of the reason i wanted anaheim to

win the cup so bad in 2007 they were playing the damn sins but also i needed jaguar to get a photo with the cup and erase that moment right race the world's saddest photo and then he won he won and hooray um mcdavid will never have that picture we don't get that meme i don't think he'll ever lay a finger on the trophy i don't think he gives a shit well until he wins it until he wins the stanley cup and he will undoubtedly be the con smith winner unless leon dry saddle sticks around how do you guys feel about him being the con smith winner not scoring in the final two games We have the balloting here, if you want to bring it up, Matty. Let's dunk on all these losers.

Yeah. So he went 16 of 17 first place votes in Kahn-Smyth Trophy ballots. Ryan S. Clark of ESPN had Bobrovsky in his first place. And then based on the points and how everything rounds out, it would have been McDavid first, Barkov second, and then Forsling third in Kahn-Smyth Trophy balloting. every single ballot had mcdavid on it and barkov on it but broski wasn't on every ballot forzland got enough points to be the third place uh winner i do want to say that i took broski earlier in this series so me and ryan s clark's are we're buddies yeah well and like like here can you go like uh so jim matheson is getting dunked on today in part because he

picked three oilers um i mean but you know what's nuts bouchard all three guys he picked broke records yeah but not you're you're picking bouchard over barkoff stop it no i i listen i agree with you but like and i mean hyman i get he looks like a massive homer because he's an oiler hyman should have got more by the way i'm i think that's his was he the only guy to vote for hyman yeah hyman had 16 goals you know what i mean yeah but you you look at hyman's goals and you say the reason he has those goals is because of mcdavid and that's why mcdavid went that's the thing so mcdavid 42 points it is far and away the salary cap record and the only people ahead of them are lemieux and gretzky hyman had 16 goals which is the salary cap record and bouchard

didn't he pass paul coffee for most uh points or assists by a defenseman yeah in a playoff run like it you know it's silly to pick three oilers especially when they lost but holy shit all three of those guys had a run there's a legitimate case for all three of the guys that jim matheson picked also i'm wrong barkov was not on every ballot he was not on this one right it's the only ballot he wasn't on good to see verhage get some love yeah two reporters there i like that for forsling too he's like one of my favorite it's like weird you know you have like weird favorites i love him yeah a couple ballots with skinner and i gotta say i kind of don't hate that skinner's incredible skinner's record if you look at it in games after the oilers lost it's like

it's some of the best goal taking you'll ever see he hadn't lost a game between games four and seven in the playoffs until last night yeah it was first loss oh man there's uh i was asked on the stream like what's your cup final prediction for next year um which is hilarious to answer in the moment and i was like uh i don't know these two like i just answered it in the moment because i could easily see the Oilers being back yeah a lot of these uh players on both teams are free agents and they're significant ones one of the ones that I think we need to talk about first and foremost uh and and we there were some signings and stuff we'll have to get to today Cam Robinson also is joining us from Elite Prospects a little later in the show but Leon Dreisaitl is the one that

keeps coming up on the CJ show and he's not saying that there's a trade he's not saying there's anything happening we know there's one more year well but there is a decision to be made because he does have one more year it's incredible cap it 8.5 million dollars and dude it's ridiculous and while he didn't have the best series didn't score in the stanley cup final um i assume his injuries are heinous i'm sure they are absolutely yeah the guy's a playoff performer nobody's questioning that i if you are then you're not paying attention uh and he missed a couple of ones last night oh so the first thing that Edmonton really has to think about is can we resign Leon Dreisaitl does he want to stay and how long are we willing to wait for that decision

oh boy so wait he's got one year left one year left see oh man like and that's the draft is right around the corner like you got five seconds to make these decisions and be sad that's it and be sad like like it's i mean some of the most fascinating off seasons are the two teams that we just watched because the turnaround is so ridiculous like i i think neither team is going to be terribly interested in doing too much because you don't want to make an emotional decision the oilers how do you plan for the future how do you plan for the future without having an answer there oh man so that's it that might have been his last game as an oiler might have very small small chance it's possible it is absolutely possible it's possible i doubt

it i highly doubt it yeah but people you would be wrong to say that it that it's a foregone conclusion that it's that he's an oiler greater than zero percent which is wild greater than zero percent like what do we put it at greater than five great it's there the possibility is there i just what on earth like what what would be enough for leon dry sidle yeah and i think that he's gonna go for and he should go for as much money as leon it wouldn't surprise me if leon dry sidle for a short amount of time becomes the highest paid player in the nhl because mcdavid is up the next year yeah Matthews makes 13.25 so you think he gets more than 13.25 don't you think he's worth it on the open market shit yeah I think he's worth it to Edmonton whoo because

you're you're talking about a guy that regularly is your leading scorer in the playoffs when it matters man and uh because I was gonna say like what do you want you want money or you want to win i mean that guy left millions of dollars on the table even though 8.5 was it was a generous people forget it was a very generous deal for him at the time and i was like holy shit like we all did this dude's barely been in the league you gave him 8.5 um but he should have been making double digits the whole time oh you're a goal away dude jesse you're a goal away if you are Leon Dreisaitl what what's your first thought about the the Oilers thing what how how would you look at this are you going well we could win next year and that's all I care about because you

have no I don't believe he's got trade protection so if if you're you're Leon Dreisaitl do you stick around and make the Oilers wait and make it a story he's got him sorry he's got a modified no trade i think if you're leon well if you're the edmonton oilers you play it out like i don't think there's any i i know the idea of moving leon is there but you have connor mcdavid i don't think you break that up at any point just because leon's not willing to commit long term like i don't think you you move them out if worse comes to worse and you go to free agency with leon dry so next season it's all worth it because you might just be some pieces around mcdavid and leon to win the stanley cup and i think that's worth the risk so if you're leon i don't think you have a choice but you're

playing next year in edmonton yeah like if i'm the gm of edmonton if i'm ken holland's replacement in the next five days like i don't i don't move leon and no matter what a year of dry sidle at 8.5 is worth the risk yeah uh you gotta find a way to move campbell i have aggressively changed my position there you you have to move campbell and i think you move heaven and earth to move darn owners yeah so i'm looking at the oilers thing if i'm leon dry saddle my main sticking point with this next contract is is connor mcdavid sticking around or not yep yep if leon signs the answer right that i'm i'm convinced connor's an edmonton oiler for life and i think that's fair you have to remember that um you have to remember that like even in toronto with

matthews we were like well for for five years because brian burke put it out there you know he's going to go to arizona ah they don't exist um uh no i'm sorry but that was brian burke playing mental warfare and i appreciate it because that quote stuck for years absolutely but he was never going to arizona it was never going to happen and and but but it is still something that that anxiety creeps in like okay is just connor want to do something else does he want to live somewhere else does he think it could be better somewhere else and if i'm leon dry saddle i'm talking to connor mcdavid and connor mcdavid only this summer he's the general manager are you staying because i'm not signing till you sign well he can't he can't what connor can't sign an extension

till next yeah yeah so i'm not signing till a week before you're gonna all you're gonna be able to go on is mcdavid's word i think that has to count for something but there's no reason that mcdavid wouldn't stay in edmonton forever because as long as he's in edmonton or they will give him everything right now like his former agent now runs the team jeff jackson is the big boss he's going to give conor mcdavid everything he could ever ask for in edmonton there's no reason outside of like goofy reasons like oh he's from the toronto area no like there's no i don't see any foresee any reason mcdavid would ever leave edmonton any team mcdavid's gonna go to is gonna have the exact same problems as edmonton right um you know oh we have these cap constrictions and

how come? Oh, I'm the best player in the world. Yeah. Anything he goes to is going to be built around him. Yeah. Like it doesn't really make a difference where he plays. The team is the Connor McDavid team.

And if Edmonton, like they've proven this year, they can build a team that can almost win the Stanley cup. I don't know why you wouldn't just commit to this when they're going to give you all the money you want forever. That, um, that Panthers stat,

um, about what their decor makes outside of Aaron Eckblad would drive me nuts. if i was connor mcdavid yeah because you know oh you know maybe you should take less and so that the team the panthers like made a tent out of like a shirt and a couple sticks like dude eckblad first overall pick all right there's your there's your pillar for the last 10 years then you get forsling off waivers i'm sorry that's a shot in the dark but the the panthers didn't know he was this they had an idea he was worth claiming yes they had i mean if the carolina

hurricanes were a very smart program didn't know he was this how would the panthers have that's kind of lost in all this like carolina not just a smart program but they've churned out defensemen after defensemen after ridiculous they've got two of the top defensemen going to free agency this year at a ridiculous rate and they'll just replace them yeah they'll just replace them um montour for pennies on the dollar kulkov making dick um micola making really not that much oh like the the panthers are almost built the way edmonton like in terms of money the panthers are built financially the way the oilers would be built financially if they were ever going to win the cup right you know what i mean yep you get 42 points in mcdavid

over 30 from leon 16 goals at a hyman a really good goaltending performance all the ingredients were there i don't know how they repeat this what evanson what do you mean yeah oh they repeat this what they can do this they're gonna have it they're gonna be in tough like vegas was like dallas was the cup like colorado was but they got to go through each other the oilers losing the stanley cup should show you just how fucking hard it is to win it's it's nearly impossible it's nearly impossible you got to be one of 32 teams and if you're the oilers like how many of those performance could you reasonably ask to be repeated mcdavid's that's it because he's an alien you don't think dry side can yeah what's crazy i think hyman has proven

that he's at the level he's at you don't think stewart skinner is a good goaltender now hyman like broke a record i don't think it's reasonable to be like simply break the record again yeah but i like i don't think we're asking you exactly to do that i think like 12 goals like the next time you have a run to the stanley cup final will be good to get you there you're leaving four goals in the same yeah they'll be they'll be found somewhere else maybe leon doesn't go goalless you know in the stanley cup final there's four goals there leon's the one guy they got such a good performance out of their depth that's going to be difficult to replace but leon is the one guy where i'm like damn he really does have more to give yeah and i think

he's been hella injured these playoffs based on his performance you know i don't i don't think zero goals from leon dry sidled in seven games of the stanley cup final is a healthy player yeah but like is it reasonable to expect him to ever be healthier than that when the playoffs are just uh 65 ish days of the cross check olympics i don't know why you're so down on the oilers coming back yeah i think i'm just poking holes in like it's not a foregone conclusion no i don't think it is for anybody to repeat anything but i look at how sydney crosby lost his first stanley cup final next year he was back i looked the florida panthers who last year were in the stanley cup final and this year they won it again not just won it the next year but crosby

then went seven years just wandering the desert uh penguins and almost a career threatening injury the penguins never really got close in between two they had the one conference final in 2013 against the bruins and they got killed they got swept by them um i don't know if they had another conference final yeah and then he pulled back to back out of his rear end pulled back to back out of no like i love cj talking about um the the penguins in that cup run um because you know cj and kessel got to know each other from kessel's time in toronto and when the penguins punched their ticket to the stanley cup final cj tells the story he walks in the room and kessel just looks at him and goes fuck and then they go to the cup final and every single espn panelist if

i'm not mistaken pick the sharks yep it's so hard yeah it is so it's hard so so but you know i i look at the i look at the western conference we're just talking western conference i'm looking at the oilers i'm looking at the abs i'm looking at uh the dallas stars uh and i'm looking at the vegas golden knights and i think a sleeper in there if they can figure out how to score is the nashville predators uh as much as people think i'm crazy i i think that team defensively is scary once you get them into the playoffs if they can if they just get some guys who can score some points underratedly one of the saddest faces last night or one of the ones that bothered me the most was matthias heckholm oh yeah oh his second time yep second time being eliminated in the

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the vitamin c which is me don't know what any of those words mean me just know that i get all my nutrients through ag1 i i'm i'm stupid like i don't know what's going on how far did you get in science all i as soon as you could drop science i dropped it i'm not good at science all i know is if i drink ag1 it's like the best multivitamin you could take ever because i just get all the nutrients and vitamins that i need for the day and i don't know all the science behind and all that stuff. It just makes it easy for me. And that's why I take it.

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game at all like no yeah I feel like we're like how about Bobrovsky save the damn cup yeah Bobrovsky and Forsling Forsling stopped the best player in the world from scoring a tap-in and immediately after uh the greatest goal scorer in these playoffs was stopped because lusterine and did the splits but the puck actually went under lusterine and and bobrovsky got it sprawling hasik style with his glove just unbelievable the leon dry saddle like i said missing the net from the spot where he always scores from really yeah leon dry saddle missing the net hitting the side of the net underratedly dylan holloway ties that game if he simply instead of cross-checking dimitri kulikov plays the puck it's right there dylan it's right there

and for the rest of your life unless you end up winning one it's always going to be right there right where you left it oh jesus here's here's the save uh Bobrovsky made there's a still on it that's crazy uh unbelievable that he was able to find that puck just through sheer luck so like will mcdavid gets stopped hyman's right there look who's coming up the rear that's leon dry sidle those are the three horsemen of the edmonton oilers apocalypse and the panthers kept it out of their net it's a miracle it's a miracle it's a miracle that the oilers didn't pull off a miracle like i i don't think we've really talked about the greatest comeback ever told in the history of hockey but it's not fell short no and now it's just another

lost in the desert it lost in the sands of time um in very short order we will forget this ever happened when when both teams came out in game seven there you could tell i felt like florida was back to playing uh the style of hockey that they played in like the first two games and through the first three rounds of the playoffs they felt more desperate they were playing more physical they were they were playing run and gun hockey and i was like where was this florida team for those past three games and it felt like the weight of the world there that you you were just talking about about this 3-0 comeback and it being the greatest comeback in the history of the nhl and you get to like where does it land in the sporting landscape of all time and it felt like florida was

like we're not gonna be that team and they came out desperate and the way they held on to the lead was very impressive for the final uh part of the game when they were up to one i thought paul maurice offered some insight there was an interview he did it wasn't on the ice it was afterward I think it was with ESPN um and Panthers go up 2-1 Reinhardt scores that goal and the whole bench goes ballistic and they're all standing up and Paul Maurice said during the interview I don't know if he actually said this on the bench it would have been really funny if he did he goes boys boys boys it's there's five minutes left in the second period you can't stand for the rest of the game like we have a job to do here i think that's what a good coach does i think adrenaline

worked against the panthers for three games there well i think even the yanmark goal is is proof positive of that a little bit yeah oh yeah did you see how many times they ran a little package in the broadcast the amount of times the edmonton royalists tried the little spring play and it worked with cody cc when when he got up the game seven grim reaper oh unbelievable four points in four games two goals to assist prime 2017 eric carlson springing him for for that one like that's unbelievable and it wasn't just that instance where they tried this breakout pass because they knew we can catch the panthers sitting around we can catch them exactly what paul murray said that you described they're standing there and we if we just send it out if we if we use our speed because

edmonton's a really fast team when we get the puck in our zone the defensemen aren't going to hold on to it we're going to get the forwards down the ice and it worked and to the panthers credit they by the end of the game they kept up and they were able to shut things down but it was i was i was worried about for them because edmonton looked dangerous early on in the uh the end of the first there i can't believe they didn't get a deflection like the the pants just the the sheer amount of body blows they must have taken from uh just all those block shots so much stuff to the outside when edmonton had the puck in the zone the panthers were able to keep them to the outside which was just like credit for their defense because that's how they've been playing all

playoffs and this yeah just clogging that middle and them just blocking every single shot was incredible to see and uh what did you guys think of the the penalty calls because we we did our bets we were so close right we were so ready to we did our bets on what penalties would be called last game and adam i believe you said warren fogel you were like warren fogel or some other useless edmondson oiler will get a penalty called on them and warren fogel got the first penalty call the game which was hilarious and i said it'll be edmonton first florida in the second and i was like let's get through the third boy yeah and then you said nothing in the third and then we got something and i was like no and then i was on one in the first two in the second one

in the third and i so i missed out on a double second and steve was on i think i said one in the first one in the second and that's and then none as well yeah you're close but yeah so we almost all nailed it but the most uh controversial one was the matthew kachuk um tripping penalty where he lost an edge and he and he bowled over the guy i just feel like i've never seen that called before um where a player very clearly is out of commission he's not looking at the player i don't even know if he knows the players there yeah but i i guess the argument is well what if he did it accidentally on purpose and then it's a panther's chance yeah but and here's here's what i think it was it was the officials going we gave edmonton one now we got to return the favor

it's game management and and then bouchard was one that they have to call what that's the thing i think they called it exactly how we predicted one in the first one in the second and then it's got to be real obvious and they ignored some shit too but bouchard obvious yeah i thought edmonton was going to get one in the third period because it was such an egregious trip when florida florida had one there was like an egregious yeah there was a really bad one and the florida fans are standing up going and i'm like i agree with them like they i'd be mad too mcdavid got mauled yes mauled for like the whole final five minutes who was it was it ekblad who grabbed his leg and was was holding him up in the air yeah yeah yeah the screenshot probably bring it up

Ekblad, it was great seeing them after the game. Those are just two warriors. Ekblad had so much of McDavid. The Panthers forwards were so important to their... No way! Yeah, so one of the replays, Ekblad there literally picks up McDavid's leg and brings him around the side of the boards.

There's no way to defend Connor McDavid without breaking the rules. I'm not being cheeky when I say that. there's no way to defend connor mcdavid clean um there's just no way to do it did you think uh this was one thing drew was really on post game and i suck and i don't think he's entirely wrong at all uh chris knobloch and being a rookie head coach is a little you're a little nervous probably in that moment more than paul maurice would be who's not pulling the goal paul maurice is just still out there running bits with two minutes to go after he wins he's just like okay what jokes

Can I get out there? Can I be angry? But Chris Knobloch on the other end, three minutes to go, stoppage in play, chooses not to pull the goalie, chooses to wait till a minute 30 left in the game. Was that a crucial error, not pulling the goalie earlier? He didn't choose to put Skinner with 90 seconds.

That was all the Florida Panthers, and that was always the risk. Knobloch had an incredible playoff, an incredible Stanley Cup final. He messed that up. He messed that up big time. um you got an icing pucks down at the other end three and a half the the problem is was he waiting for a perfect moment yeah uh i i maybe it was personnel getting certain guys rest i'm not sure

but um you might the problem with not pulling the goalie in that moment is you might never get that opportunity again um like paul maurice there was another thing that he said after the game they were talking about strategies like yeah ice the puck 75 times which you run the risk of them doing that yep yeah the thing about hockey is the other team doesn't have to get possession like if it's not like it's not like a sport in basketball where you score and then the other team gets the ball yeah in hockey one team can take the puck and you may never get it back so i thought yeah that was just uh an egregious error and the other thing about just pulling it at 330 is the longer you go in this game the more tired mcdavid and dry sidle and hyman and bouchard and all of your

horses will be come off the ice the longer you wait the more tired they're gonna be when you go with that six on five so you need to pull it a little earlier so that they could be out there with just a little bit more energy and he didn't do it unfortunately no three and a half is tough like my guess is the plan was around two and a half and that's a full minute ahead of schedule that net is open a long time because the empty net ends it obviously but yeah you got like if there's not another opportunity you can't just like cross your fingers and be like okay maybe within two minutes we get it like it's it's game seven here you gotta take the risk so i i felt bad for knoblock in that situation because i think he messed up yeah is there anything else you guys

want to touch on that happened in the game um yeah it was the former sabers against the former Leafs and the Sabres won not a surprise it's crazy like when you think about it like both teams had like five guys from each squad uh Bobrovsky bounce back game was good to see Skinner was also awesome like we mentioned a little in the concept by Skinner had a great series a great game there both goalies I think showed up and it was just a matter of inches the Oilers had 15 wins the plant the Panthers had 16 the Maple Leafs have 16 playoff wins since 2020 thanks man no that's not even that bad kiss my ass oh that's good i thought you were gonna say like 2015 or something no no that's not bad now run it back that if we count 2020 as the post

season which i don't so i would say 2019 because i don't think okay the playoffs that's not too bad that's more that's literally more than i thought that's so bad all right now okay run down the listen you have zero you're right buffalo you're right buffalo that's a yeah all in a law should we improve no because it could be worse at least for yes yes that seems to be the the thought right now now there have been things guys that have broken over uh over the course of this show and i gotta get to them here because we're gonna run out of time so oh we're gonna have cam on here so let me run through this very quickly john cooper no surprise will be the head coach for uh canada for the four nations cup uh the exosphere for the draft announced today that's the big sphere in um

owned by rangers owner james dolan uh it did not give the nhl a deal by the way when they went in there to rent it uh which is hilarious by the way james dolan's a giant dickhole yeah but you know what if i were james i'd be like you know what gary kiss it uh yeah and uh and what's interesting is that they announced today that some key moments will be broadcast on the sphere. On the outside of it.

On the outside of it. I wonder if they'll... Maybe you're going to get some old man NHL faces right in the navel. Like real fish eye. In the navel? Like your nose.

You mean nasal? Nasal. Navel, not here. Yeah, I want to see this old man belly button. Show him the belly button. Show it. Nasal.

Who's shirtless at the draft? I hope somebody. Someone. James Dolan. So, and by the way... I own this building! Good time to remind you that we will be doing a live first round NHL draft stream this Friday night. It doesn't start at 7 or 8.

I can look that up. Yep. Eastern. Probably. Let's tell the story about last year's stream. I don't remember this. I missed the Bedard pick. We were down in Nashville and we were doing a live stream and Steve was out by the arena getting streeters.

With Justin and Drew. Yeah, you're talking with people being like, hey, what do you think of Bedard? what's it gonna do next year blah blah blah and then you were coming back to our place where we are staying to do the live stream and you were about 15 minutes late because all of us thought the draft started at uh eight o'clock because that's one on the eastern time zone it started and we failed to realize that we were an hour difference in nashville and it started at seven local and eight eastern we were shooting streeters outside of the building and i was i was talking people i'm like are people afraid of the camera or because they seem to be in a big rush to go

inside and the reason they were in a big rush is because there was only like 10 minutes before the draft started you thought the whole time you had an extra hour and stuff and we were not close to our no airbnb where we were doing the stream from so yeah i think i want to say i got there for like the second or third pick but i missed conor bedard i missed you can go back and watch the live stream it's it's available like on our channel just search it sdp and draft 23 2023 and you see steve come in at like pick three and that's hilarious we were in such a tall airbnb i have to like run up like six flights of stairs i'm sweating buckets from being in the hot tennessee heat and i'm like all right who got who who got yeah oh it was fun so that will hopefully not

So, Adam, since we talked about that, did you find out if it starts at 7 or 8 Eastern? 7 p.m. Eastern Standard. Eastern, okay. And that means 4 p.m. Pacific, which means we'll start a little earlier than that, just to make sure we don't miss the Celebrini pick. Sure. And that's exciting. I think we're going to be all in here doing a live stream in here, which is kind of neat. All right.

And then the next day, if you want rounds two to seven and they move a lot quicker, 830, sorry, 1130 a.m. Eastern start time, which is 830 a.m. Pacific, which means if you're in Vegas, oh, baby, that's going to suck. Dude, you are going to see the most diabolically hungover people in the world. I right now do not want to be Julian McKenzie's stomach or head. Is he going? Because he's going to be down there at the draft. and you gentlemen know when Julian McKenzie's around other hockey reporters,

he has a good time. I think when Julian McKenzie's around a good time. He has a good time. I think he, and oftentimes he's the reason for the good time. So that really,

there are people in your friend group that are like party starters. Is Julian not that guy? Oh yeah. Sorry to interrupt. That 8.30 a.m. wake up for him the night after.

No, no. it's like a 7 a.m wake up to make it down to the sphere for 8 30 that after the night of draft one and then having to wake up i don't know how hard that hangover is going to be but it's not going to be pretty should we dare him to take a selfie you won't do it i want to see him i want a bedtime selfie yeah i want a selfie before what time he's like he's he's leaving the strip you know i want a he's what curfew whatever day he's walking out of the bellagio like at 4 a.m i want i want to hey i'm leaving the bellagio at four and then i want to i'm walking in at 7 a.m to the draft at the sphere and they're pumping extra oxygen in those hotels i 100 believe that conspiracy oh it's not

a conspiracy it's not a conspiracy it's a good idea no i just remember being like relatively sober staring at the ceiling like in my hotel room going what the fuck is going on yeah it's the oxygen i was just i was just freaking pumping and also the free coffee in every single casino that's there um i have not treated my liver this way in many years but that might be a night for the motto can't be hung over if you're still drunk uh casey middle stat not for you uh oh no i'll simply be here you'll be here dad showing up to work yeah you'll be here uh casey middle stat has signed a three-year extension with the avalanche carrying a 5.75 million dollar aav it looks like they have found he's found a spot there and they have found a guy who they really

needed in that spot right yes the avalanche were kind of hurting after nasm cadre and and hadn't found that guy um really smart move by the colorado avalanche to pick up on the market inefficiency that the florida panthers figured out the key to success is former sabers that's right now i'm not sure that how much how much center he's gonna play there i don't i don't know but even so i would think a lot yeah it's it's uh it's interesting uh because he has played some wing in his career as well the other one uh is josh morrissey's defense partner dylan de mello has signed on uh for four more years 4.9 million dollars they make a great defense pair that is really not a bad deal at all especially uh because you're paying a premium

because he shoots right um given that it's a premium no real good real good former mississauga steel something i want to throw at you guys as well is that elliot freedman didn't care no no i'm jumping on that i'm moving the conversation what am i going to say to that yes i know where mississauga is like what what do you want me that's cool yeah steve what a great stat hey i didn't call you out jesse did jesse what should i respond to him with i'm just pointing out i don't need listen he knows steve gave us a wonderful stat and i like that he knows that my job here is to move the conversation forward where possible and that's what i'm doing do it uh so what's this on the deserved interesting o-meter.

Let's see. You definitely Pierre Maguire'd there. Oh, shit. Yeah, that's why Jesse's calling him out. That's right, and he's a former Mississauga Steelhead playing out of Mississauga, Ontario. Brampton, sir.

Brampton. They're playing in Brampton now. Yes. So I wanted to make sure I got those out. And there's a couple major things that we have to talk about. I'm going to ask Cam Robinson about Rutger McGordy,

but I want to talk about the Linus Ulmark trade. Yes, you did do a breakdown, but quickly... Where'd he go to school? Where'd he go to school? uh lena solmark yeah sweden yeah um lena solmark what do we think of the trade because sense fans seem pretty pumped and i'm and boston fans seem more perplexed i think uh

i i want to know why i want to know why they're perplexed um because uh cj's right like cj often points this out whenever we're talking about um prospective goalie trades goalie trades often suck the return for goalies stink he said that on sunday's episode uh i mean look what they got from markstrom look what uh the calgary flames got from markstrom it was a late first round pick and a prospect who's already half cooked you know what i mean like like not cooked like he's shit like cooked like uh he's 23 like this isn't uh uh someone who was drafted last year this isn't like a like a blank slate this is a dude who's you know he's already played in the nhl you might get a little better and that's about it um for markstrom right jake markstrom so what the bruins

got i actually think i like the return a little bit more than most so all mark is great he's great he was a 915 goalie last year he's a 919 in his career which is insane when you consider how much of his career was played with the buffalo sabers um before moving what the bruins got was mark castellick uh big mean sounds like a bruin already um the 25th overall pick i think i'd be kind of surprised if they kept it i think they might but i thought it was interesting when you compare it to the markstrom trade i feel like the markstrom trade sort of set the bar because the markstrom trade also included a late first round pick and i think it's a that's a 2025 one though yeah so You don't know where it's going to be.

Ah, so that I didn't know. Right. But I still think I still think that that is like, OK, there's a market setting sort of situation there. Right. Where and it doesn't mean that Boston keeps the first rounder, although they could. They could. The I just thought that that was like, OK, well, Mark Strim and all Mark. And that seems about right.

This is the still reigning Vesna trophy winner, by the way, for a few more days. Yeah. Don't know. We don't know who won the Vesna yet. Really? Nope. Oh, well, damn. See?

oh yeah i guess i was like wait a second they have to save something for the nhl awards which apparently happened sometime this week damn um i'm not of all the things i've never watched i'm not watching that so hard i went to them once i think the boston bruins did this i think this is one of those trades where like both sides look good i feel like a lot of boston bruins fans are upset because they took on the corpus allo deal and it's for a number of more years you know it's not ending anytime soon but it's three million dollars for your backup goalie that's what it's going to be and then you get swayman and and corpora solo and you get to run with those because corporate swayman's going to need a new contract but i feel like that's a great vet backup

to have you had all mark there the whole time and they they split time until swayman eventually gets the job but now you have somebody who can also split time with swayman as if you want to do that again during the regular season i think they came out fairly well plus that first round pick you know where it's going to be it's soon like it's in a couple days so you don't have to wait on this whoever you're gonna select or you can flip it for the center or d that you want and then on the ottawa side like adam what do you always say about the ottawa senators they're bad no i'm kidding in july in july and august what do you always say i say they their fans think they've won the cup they look great like i feel like in this situation ottawa can win the july and august stanley cup

again because their off-season moves look good like having all mark on the added to this team looks fantastic because that's a missing piece that they had and then getting rid of the corpus deal is a is a great piece of gma it's the it's the best get better trade they've made in at least half a decade if not longer and yeah all mark is undoubtedly an upgrade on corpus no question now all mark people are like well what's he going to be like on a not so great team well you look at his numbers with the sabers and you go fine he'll be he'll be just fine and and beyond that i'm sure there's an extension talk in there because there's one more year so supposedly he's not interested in talking extension just yet okay so that's interesting yeah but for for me not just

lenis allmark who's great jesse you make a really good point getting out from under that corpus is enormous for the ottawa senators it's enormous what do you mean it's not a great deal it's not a great deal the fact they're retaining 25 on this for the amount of time that they are socks you don't think this is a good deal for the senators uh no i think it's a it's a good deal for the senators but it's not the no strings attached home run but it was never gonna it was never gonna be i think that's an impossible task no but well no but everyone's like yeah man they fucking smashed like dude how many years does he have left on the deal three four four four and you're retaining how much well dude like a million bucks the guy stinks like i i i don't

think he's staying i think he stinks he had a 913 on columbus in 2022 23 and then he went to the L.A. Kings who can actually play worth a damn and had a 921. And I think this year he sucked on the Sens when the Sens had two goalies who have a track record of stopping pucks and they couldn't stop pucks. Personal bias says that it's a Sens personal bias, personal bias. I think I think Corpus Allo's numbers with teams that were more defensively responsible, which the Blue Jackets and Kings were. I think that that is always going to the Bruins.

Yeah, but you remember, who did the Blue Jackets re-sign? Elvis Merzlikens. Why? Because he looked really good under a strong defensive system. Yeah, and he's still playing on that shit heap of a team. He is. Yeah, but that's what I mean. I don't think either goalie was that good.

He gets to play for the Bruins at a reduced rate in a reduced role. Here's what I'm going to say. He's going to play behind Jeremy Swayman. I personally don't think he's that good. That's my personal opinion. He's not that good. I'm just saying this isn't a disaster for the Bruins. No, but I'm focused on the Ottawa side because, like, retaining a million dollars for the next four years is fantastic to get rid of the contract and bring in Allmark.

A guy that they didn't like. That's a fantastic move. Like, I would take that swap every single day. The swap is way easier to stomach if Allmark extends, obviously. If he doesn't extend, this is just the Dabrinkit deal. How is it not? i think that that's the risk you take to bring in the goalie plus like even if all mark doesn't extend then you get the cap space and i think you don't have to bring a deal you don't have

corpus all on the books and like if if if things don't go well in all ottawa then you have bigger problems if things go well and all mark plays well i think there's a chance he comes back and there's the extension i agree i think it just depends on how next season plays out that's why i mentioned the like it looks good in july and august for this team once again like they're set out perfectly going into next season and everything depends on how it plays out because year after year in Ottawa it's like everything looks good but they don't live up to expectations during the regular season here now once again if they perform well and they can sneak into a playoff spot or at least compete for one things are going to be looking good and and the buyout window starts

today uh and so interestingly Pierre-Luc Dubois would have been a two-thirds buyout in LA and the Bruins buyout corpus oh no but the senators are apparently going to buy out Travis Hammond I can only cost him a third of a million really yeah because listen why did you word it that way what 333 000 third of a million third of a million just sounded better i don't know is that weird it upset was it weird okay why would they do that uh because he sucks but he only has one and they don't want him he's not for okay so here's the the deal with travis hamannick is this team uh this owner wants to move on from these pieces now the pierre dorian um experiment in a lot of ways drafting wise did did okay in ottawa they did okay the trades and

signings were a disaster and this is another guy that i don't from what i have heard they don't want him in the dressing room anymore so interesting so with the corpus allo retention that means ottawa senators only have one buyout retention spot left so if you buy out travis hammock you take up all of your attention spots and then you're limiting yourself for trades this season the other i guess the other option is if he's only making a million bucks if and lauer's willing to do it starting to see a little some holes here no i'm talking i'm talking about the whole i think the corpus allo deal was great i think i'm poking holes in the hammock by it right and i and i agree with that but what makes the hammock buyout harder to do i wouldn't do it

regardless because 1.1 million so you're saving 700 grand and you're not because what i was thinking was why don't they just put him in Belleville yeah uh and and play play put him there doesn't he have a no move doesn't he have something he does have a no move yeah he does have a no I don't think they can send him down so maybe yeah Travis Hamnick has a no move can't be traded sent to the minor that's crazy so that's the other problem is that okay so do you have him just sitting in the stands all next year because you can't move him well then nobody wants his deal sitting on the cap you just send them home the buyout might be more just personnel reasons as i get the sense they want a culture shift completely in ottawa and it's why they were

so bound and determined to get chris tanev and pay real assets at the deadline when they could just sign them july 1st it's because they they're so there is clearly a problem with the ottawa senators in the dressing room i'm not saying that any one person is a bad guy but it's just not working the chemistry's not working they needed a new coach they got him uh and that didn't work out so well so then they got our actual new coach and that's going to be crazy the i can't wait for the training camp footage out of ottawa when travis uh green just bag skates the shit out of them for the first three days he ought to and and then beyond all that i think steve steos for me this corpus allo moving off of corpus allo who clearly was not happy there they didn't like it

didn't work their home run to get lenis olmark too i yeah i want to clarify my opinion here like this should work out very well for the senate i'm i'm bullish i think we all are i think we're bullish on where the senators are going olmark you can uh bank on being good regardless of the team and anton forsberg i think you can bank on having a bounce back season that's not a bad goalie um and having that as a tandem is pretty good i just don't think it's the disaster for the bruins that people are making it out to be agreed i i think this will end up being good for the sentence they do need to improve defensively so yeah they do and i think that they got the right people in place and they want to be good now yep they're they're ready to be good and they should um

the couple of other things that i wanted to quickly mention or one other thing before we get to cam uh just very quickly the uh arizona coyotes no longer have an owner because as of today according to phoenix sports uh alex murello has walked away round of applause remember those confetti cannons you brought in a couple times i thought about it today would have been the day uh alex murello who by all accounts uh made no inroads in the arizona business community made no inroads with his own employees uh did nothing politically to bring arizona the state and phoenix the city to the table i'm not gonna pull that over hoist the morello's not here anymore cup uh is apparently walking away for from his right to reinvigorate that's all you

the coyotes franchise because if you're going to restart the coyotes franchise you need to be building like this fall uh because you the thing about those deals were that they needed to be able to have an arena to play in at that time now the problem is that he still owns the roadrunners of the ahl they are doing extraordinarily well in tucson so what is he going to do move them to reno in the next three to five years oh what was that actually that is that is they were going to play in mullet and then i heard that was canceled that is canceled they were going to play five games in mullet they are now not going to okay uh and apparently according to phoenix sports this morning uh the the plan is to move them to reno reno nevada yeah but they they got a team in

henderson well that's overnight that's what i thought too i was like this doesn't make sense this guy sucks yeah maybe he's got business interest there i don't i didn't investigate it any further oh my god i i think uh like i saw some coyotes fans griping yesterday like this this means that the coyotes are further from coming back than they were yesterday no it doesn't I wholeheartedly disagree. They're closer. You just want someone closer to returning to the NHL. Honestly, they don't have this frigging clown.

Gary needs to buy Matt Ishbia as many dinners as he possibly can to get that. Gary got his way. You got to remember that. He got his way. This is not this. First off, this could have been Gary's biggest mistake. And he just by the skin of his teeth, as my British parents used to call it, skin of his teeth got out from under this with Morello officially walking away. and we don't have anything official on the books.

If the NHL takes that IP back and they're able to interest a billionaire in the area and it's not hard to get people interested in something like that with the TV market, the population, the tax benefits, all of it. And that person is willing to go politically, get involved, which you need to do at the city level, at the state level to get this all done.

I have no doubt that within five years, starting from now we will see the arizona coyotes back in a brand new building with tax breaks and all the other great shit that the illages got and other all the other arena builds around the league morello made the brand radioactive no one wanted to work with them no one was interested land auction all this and all that shit no one wanted to work with the guy the fact that he's not there it is better to have nobody there right now than it is to have him there and they gave an impossible task you want coyotes are closer to coming back today than they were yesterday you want to do something for mr morello let's do it na na na na na na hey hey goodbye no good riddance to this

man arizona hockey is so much in a in a such better position right now now that morello's out of there because nobody trusted him nobody in city council in any type of government in any kind of city planning wanted to work with this individual and that speaks to who he is and how he does business and all that things so the fact that now we got some answers to our questions that we had adam last episode because we were wondering like does he have to sell the rights to somebody else does he have to sell them back to the uh to the nhl it sounds like he just can walk away from it because he didn't have any rights to sell anything that's right which is awesome for the nhl because we just get this back and now we get to go uh sell an expansion franchise for

two billion dollars to some uh billionaire and we get all this money he needs no part of pro sports he needs to go do his gambling thing is he built his hotels and all that but stay away from pro sports because it didn't it didn't work out here and it would have never the canadian media with their what their accurate reporting yeah shut up hit the bricks yeah hit the brick i got a little tired of that and i think it's become very very interesting to see how the media down there has turned against him when they were pro him for a long long time believed a lot of the shit that he fed and and i and i understand why i understand why the reason why is you want the coyotes to continue and you want to believe that this person who's saying all these great things

are true but nothing wrong with wanting to believe there's absolutely nothing wrong and i think that a lot of the reporting uh didn't really start to get aggressive until the end and and and once it did boy it was really good it was real real good but the coyotes are a non-factor mostly in that market uh and rightfully so they've been goofed around for years and i think now when people got serious about this guy when they actually took him to task it fell apart in in a matter of weeks guys the auction plan looks like a good plan you know it looked like oh here's everything we're gonna do yeah like all the ones before it here's the avenue to do it and i was like oh yeah this is a great plan everybody arizona is going to be safe but then when it's time to execute any plan

they've had over the 20 years the team was in arizona they were never able to do it and it like you just said it fell apart at the seams anytime they tried to move forward and this is this is the last thing you know it's like never never again never again with this individual let's until there's an arena there where you can actually play don't bring the team back it's it's all done everybody can finally fucking move on from this story and then in five years we can get expansion franchises if that's what they want to do yeah and it might you know honestly it might be atlanta and houston before this and and scott howison who's the the uh the head of the ahl uh or at least was the head of the yeah it still is the head of the former gm general man at very

least was for former gm of the blue jackets i believe he was just extended this this spring that's why i'm questioning myself but scott howison needs to find a way to to get him to sell the roadrunners if you have an ahl team with great attendance you keep them there you keep them there moving them for what are you doing and they've been there for what 20 years since they left toronto because that's right it was the toronto roadrunners for like two years or whatever sell it to the smith group like brian like go sell it to them yeah you talk and have their ahl team like give them their team maybe he wanted to move them to reno to get closer to utah i have no idea Reno doesn't make sense.

Yeah, I don't know. Anyway, so that's that. Let's finish off the show with some draft previewing with one Cam Robinson from Elite Prospects. I'm sorry. I'm tired. Tired. Two in five Canadians will hear the words,

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thank you yeah there it is thank you boys thank you thank you happy to be here uh we're excited to have you on because first off before we get started here steve just signed up for the vip ultra super special elite prospects package um and then we found out that today you have a 50 off sale that he did not take advantage of i bought it i bought it like two days ago not knowing so let's talk afterwards buddy i'll get you hooked up we'll sort that out we'll sort that out for you free stuff free stuff let's go so cam the reason we wanted to have you on is because obviously everything is jam-packed together in the same week we're gonna get get the game seven stanley cup and then we're gonna get the draft and then

we're gonna get free agency all within six days so we gotta talk draft let's talk top five so what what cam's gonna do is he's got his top five and where he thinks people are going and then a sleeper pick a pick that's a little bit later that he thinks you're gonna be a superstar so cam let's start at number five who do you have there yeah let's go backwards can we do that we're going reverse yeah we can do that oh absolutely absolutely yeah i feel like when we get to one it's gonna be pretty anti-climactic obvious yeah no no let's go for it anyway we're doing it now we're committed um so what what do you got for us cam okay if we're talking mock this will be a little more exciting until we get to one like you said there um i'm going teach teach a ginla at

five for the montreal canadians for the montreal canadians oh yeah yeah and i think calgary is just their hearts are breaking right now as they hear that um but the way this kid finished his season like there's a reason he's been shooting up all these draft boards like he has like electric skills he's never met a defenseman he didn't think he could just dangle right around um he's got a good shot he's got great awareness but it's like the details of his game he is his father's son like he gets in there he bangs he lifts sticks he's like a thief in the night coming back on the back check to strip a guy takes great routes on the forecheck like i don't know if he's actually gonna play the middle of the ice in the pros like he's he told people at the combine that he wants

to move back to center something that he played growing up uh next year for the rockets um but he has the size the skating the intelligence to be a center iceman um but like he could be selkie level this type of player like he's that good two-way um and also unsurprisingly coming from that family just a peach of a human too like i got to spend a little bit of time with him in finland at the u18s and like gracious and like just really enthusiastic about life and about the opportunities that he's had um so i'm a big big fan of tijan i think you know probably he's the third forward that Montreal would like to get at that spot,

but the other two are going to go before. So he's going to be sitting there waiting for him. They passed on Mishkoff last year. They can't really pass on another like high upside forward. I mean, they can, but much to the chagrin of their families, they do.

Yeah, they might. Let me ask you this. Is it worth Calgary moving up from nine, whatever that cost is going to be to try to get that pick from Montreal? You know, I do a bold predictions article every year. And this year I'm doing a little,

i'm a little spin on it where i give my five but then i also you know texted a bunch of gms and scouts and asked for their bold predictions so we'll have 10 and three people their bold prediction was that teach would fall to nine to calgary and they would pass whoa so i don't know i don't know if that's like some legitimate smoke in the industry or they're just having some fun trying to pick something bold but i mean needless to say that one's going to go in the article um but yeah so i think there's a world just you know talking about chagrin of the fan break base is that if he's sitting there at nine there is a world where they pass over him well that would be very calgary be very it would be it would be for sure um so you know i don't i don't think calgary's probably

all that interested you know i'm not craig connor i'm not sitting in that room with them right now but uh moving up in the top 10 is it's difficult it's costly and the range this year like two to nine two to ten it's not that far apart so if they just sit they're gonna have a player that they're gonna like kind of in that range this is extremely important because i'm easily distracted by silly details can you think of another father-son combo in the nhl where the son didn't shoot the same way as the father it bothers me it bothers me a lot because jerome was right handed yes it bothers me steve brought this up before the show cam and jesse looked at him and said i can honestly say i've never thought about i have it is the first thing i thought of when i

saw him yeah i don't tell you this much i i haven't thought about that one specifically but when my kids first started playing hockey he's a righty i went and grabbed him a right hand stick he tried to hold it like a lefty i was like no no no this you're you are right yeah right that's what you do it's you are learning right-handed and now that's how he is and that's how it's gonna stay yeah okay so what do we have for the columbus blue jackets at number four they're going big man down the middle caden lindstrom arguably my favorite player in this entire class it probably goes him and then teach um this kid is the potential to be just like a match-up nightmare he's already six foot four 215 pounds and like a raw athlete hasn't played

like a ton of elite high level hockey growing up and i had like i won't name drop because i was specifically told not to but i had like a high-end player in the whl reach out to me just unsolicited to say hayden lindstrom is the hardest matchup in junior hockey like with his size his speed his small area game like he handles the puck like he's mitch marner but in that massive frame of his and you know he's super powerful skater already and it's kind of ugly like it looks a little bit like i'm out there in beer league where i'm not lengthening the stride enough the knees aren't bent enough so you can imagine you get him with a quality skating coach you know he's gonna look like quentin byfield here in a minute like one of the best releases in the class as well like

almost scored a goal per game in the west this year before the back injury knocked him out um i know there are some concerns that he has a herniated disc at 18 um but you know he says he's all good the doctor says all good i'm gonna believe that he's not gonna be eric daze here and that he's gonna be you know stack that up with adam fantilli down the middle long term that'll be the envy of the league right down the middle like that'll be just filthy so um as far size speed skill combinations unmatched i would say in this class i've seen some concerns online about the herniated disc um i think it might have been a podcast you did where they were like oh he just sort of glossed over it our herniated disc is not necessarily uh a long-term injury or a

recurring injury that he's going to face over and over again have you been encountering uh many worries about that at all not from nhl side people the the public sphere seems to put a little more emphasis on it but i trust you know some of the people that i talked to on the team side um and they're not overly concerned i'll be surprised very surprised um if he slips past five this year um and and not many things surprised me on draft day as we know because wild things can happen right so no he's uh he's healthy now he played in the playoffs he you know he participated in the combine he's moving good you know he's jumping out of the box everything everything looked clean nothing was kind of holding them back and i have to imagine that's

going to continue along and hopefully we don't have like gabe velarde who had to battle through three or four years of a back injury before he could really get his career going that said i do think lindstrom is probably a bit of a weight you know we're seeing byfield may arguably the most you know improved player this year at 21 22 that's probably what we're going to see this isn't a plug and play player you know you're going to get him maybe a year or two more of junior then kind of get his feet wet in the show and then you know by the time he's 22 23 25 then he's like someone that you can win a cup with sort of thing he's that good i can't wait for columbus to screw that up no hey adam i can't i can't wait don waddell's there now i thought he's there now yeah new life

in columbus you're right okay number three we got the anaheim ducks cam robinson okay anaheim patty verbeek and the boys they marched to the beat of their own drum you know they took leo carlson when everybody thought it was going to be fantilli we heard last year that they were taking a very long look at matthew mishkoff's too um i think they might have done it if he maybe indicated that he wanted to go there um you know they took mason mctavish before everybody thought they would they're going ivan demidoff here and it's wow they've got all you think he's fallen to three well we'll get to that in a minute here because we're going backwards wow yeah so he has some of the most electric skills in the draft you know he coming to fort lauderdale there

for that gold star camp with uh danny millstein and the boys or he got you know everyone got to see that he's speaking english like he's working at it then to be measured up so we're taking his measurements from his ska junior team where they're like yeah he's 5 11 168 and it's like maybe he is maybe he's five nine and a half 150 right like we don't know coming from club teams so the fact that he's now six one weighing in at like 195 pounds like he's gonna play he's gonna be krill caprizo like that is honestly the path that i see him taking and now he's saying i'm gonna play a year in the khl i'm gonna sign my contract in the spring i'm gonna be the nhl spring at 25 it's like the the the concerns around him have to be mostly alleviated here

and for Anaheim they've got McTavish they've got Leo Carlson they've got Cutter Gauthier down the middle now they've got all that talent on the blue line Pavel Mityukov and Olin Zellweger they need kind of these electric wingers and she's going to be sitting there probably for them and that's just a home run like this kid is superstar level talent that I do actually think will be there at three for them and you know whether they take them i mean i'm not a hundred percent they could go something crazy like anton salaya but yeah the other russian the six foot seven kid but i'm i'm going i'm going damn it off here for them at three i'm shocked there you go i guess i'm shocked i guess we got to get to number two then the chicago blackhawks who do you have

them taking i got them taking macklin no i'm just kidding um try to try to have a little bit of fun there i think that chicago i i mean i shouldn't even say i think i've heard from some pretty reputable sources that they were impressed with what they saw of demidoff at that camp down there you know he didn't he didn't skate but we've seen the action that you know throughout the years um but i do think that they're leaning artem levshinov um the belarussian defenseman you know arguably the most complete d-man in this class early on in the season like this kid never met a play that he didn't want to jump into so whether that's leading the rush or jumping up as that kind of high option for a drop pass um and then as the season wore on you know it started to filter out a

little bit and he was kind of focusing on the defensive side of things a little bit more but he's six foot two he skates very very well like excellent four-way mobility um when he's fully filled out like he's going to be a handful to to really get a hold of there and he retrieves poxwell but for chicago you know they've really prioritized some smaller skilled talent in recent drafts like obviously bedard is there um but you know they were actively trying to trade up to get all over more last year and then he fell into their lap at 19 uh you know they have frankie nazar who they took 13th overall a couple years before that high high talent smaller body um you know uh they've got lucas reichel as well so they have a lot of these things but on the blue

line you know they don't have that kind of piece that they're looking for that they could be like this could be our number one d now levshinov is not a slam dunk to be a number one d probably a top pairing guy but again you know we're not going to stamp or you're not going to bet our mortgage on it yet um so if it's me the potential to link up badard and demidoff would be too much to pass up on but i'm also not sitting in the gmc where i have to to make that call and so i think you know from all indications that's where that number two pick is going to go and they're going to go a little safe over upside interesting very interesting i'm i'm pretty surprised okay it makes sense i understand the logic and obviously we've heard a lot of macklin celebrini talk tell us why

this guy is great and why he's going first overall i mean he is a true power center like he has plus plus feet hard like hard nose he will run defenseman through the end boards he will catch guys with their head down in open ice in the neutral zone and just leave them sucking for air um the handles right like he can maneuver in small areas the shot is heavy it's accurate it's quick um a great passer like it's across the board plus rated skills um you know in our in our ep draft guide we gave him shades of sydney crosby and jonathan caves and it's like if those two came together and had a baby that baby is macklin celebrating and you know going back all the way to like austin matthews draft in 2016 the only guys i'm taking over him first overall and all

those classes would be matthews and badart and you know you can have the conversation with jack Hughes, who I love totally different players though, but this is the type of player that you win with that, you know, in the playoffs, his game, the power game, the two-way ability is going to really elevate and separate itself from some of these smaller, super skilled guys that maybe injury comes in. Maybe when the whistles start to get put away and they don't have the advantage of getting all these power plays and all the extra ice that he's going to be able to fight through those things. So, you know, for San Jose, he's going to, he's going to change the complexion of the franchise over the next decade, maybe be that type of player that can drive you

on a really deep cup run or two and that's really all you can ask for for a first overall pick yeah does he play for the sharks next season or stay away for a year really really good question um if i'm betting on it i think he's there okay um you know will smith their fourth overall pick last year he's coming out as well out of boston college i would have if it was me if i was my career i would have been like smith you stay at boston college we'll tell it take celebrini out rather than injecting two of these like really young kids like celebrini still 17 like so he's going to be freshly turned 18 he's gonna be very very young but i mean what does he have left to prove like he just won the hobie baker as the best player in college hockey as the youngest player

in college hockey the youngest player to ever win that award like it's insane what he did like sure he could go back and try to win a national championship with bu um but it's like do you really want to hold him back for that the same time if he did stay his best buddy cole eiserman's coming they'd be reunited they used to play together at shattuck when they were like 13 14 years old they won a national championship um san jose could be really really bad they could bring two first overall picks in for 2025 if they were bad enough you know right they could be like here's celebrini and james haggins like how much fun would that be so it's not completely out of the question at this point and he talked about it at the combine too that he's like it's not you know

he'll talk to his advisors his parents and the sharks and see what the best course is but you Now, for San Jose, it's like, I don't think Will Smith is a big enough name to really get people out and sell tickets and sell jerseys. And they're going to be so bad this year that they're probably going to want that. They'll try to insulate them, you know, get in Barkley Goodrow. They'll get some vets to try to help it out. But it'll be a tough, it'll be a slog next year for them. And I do think he will be there, though. Now, one of the things I tasked you with was I wanted to know about sleepers.

There's sleepers in every draft. you know pk suban was a second round pick zetterberg was what seven six seven seven like listen top five picks yeah yeah yeah who's going 23rd yeah and yeah with the maple leafs pick uh but also like who do you like that's probably gonna go i don't know 15 to 30 or something like that in the first round yeah so let's let's talk well we can talk leafs picks here like i figured i i'm mentally prepared for this right like so picking 23 or whatever it is they haven't picked a d in the first since rasmus andy am i if i'm not mistaken i think um you know they've got toby nimela who really kind of i think took a nice step there in his first his first year in the ahl so

he's he's a good prospect but he's 22 at this point and outside of that there's not a lot coming on the blue line not a lot coming in the pipeline to be honest with you obviously easton cowan took a huge step um but there's gonna be some d available at that spot you know maybe it's stein solberg who has been rising up draftless like he is the most violent man in the class like he loves to hit and hit to hurt playing in norway playing in a men's league in norway just like dummying these 30 year old men and like i took him at the world juniors and like you should see the smile he has on his face whenever he gets a chance to talk about hitting people he's like yeah i like that i like to hit people let's see sometimes i do it too much right like you know

he like it fully admits like you know i'll go chase it like he'll just like go chase a big hit because he can um so you know a kid like that's going to be there charlie elick another like six foot three right shot defenseman with like plus plus feet you know don't ask him to handle the puck in traffic but like he is mean as well so another one is like it's gonna have probably like a 15 year career as like a you know a middle pairing guy like so there's there's going to be some options maybe adam urasek who i'm not super stoked on the feet but he has like a lot of upside with his skill and he has size and he's on the right side as well so i think for toronto you know maybe they'll just take like some five foot ten euro kid who's super slight at that spot

too um but if it's me i'm probably looking at a big burly defenseman who i can be like that guy is gonna play whether it's you know as a as a complimentary guy in the top four or maybe he's driving his own pair like a really strong number five or because when you're in that spot it's like you know you're not expecting a star you might get lucky um but but there's going to be definitely some options and then if they don't want to go d there's gonna be some fun forwards there liam green trees really electric player um playing for windsor put up like 90 plus points and had nothing to work with um so they're they're the leafs are gonna have they're gonna have some options for sure to get a good prospect this year now i guess my last question this is an add-on so

i'm throwing this at you but one name that's come up over the last few days guys is is winnipeg's rector mcgordy who uh has you know all of a sudden you know he hasn't signed we hadn't really paid much attention to it but it's looking like he's going to get moved if he does get moved what is the acquiring team getting at this point the type of player mcgordy is he i'm a i'm a big fan of the kid himself like he is bursting with confidence he's charismatic he's enthusiastic like he's a really fun well-spoken um but he's a big body kid who likes to play a power forward game you know we saw him like destroying guys at the world juniors there right like open ice just thunderous hits um really i think he has kind of underrated goal scoring ability too that we

haven't really seen at the ncaa level yet in the first two years i think he's only you know popped like 15 or 16 goals both years which is nothing to sneeze at when you're 18 19 years old um but i think that he has more to give in that regard he put up 52 points which was like top five in the nation last year so when he said he was going back for a third season my spidey senses started a tingle there a couple months ago i was like why are you going back for a third season like he's physically ready he's ready he's ready physically like he is large so physically he could handle the rigors of the nhl like mentally emotionally he's ready and he's produced at like such a high level already i don't i don't really understand why that's happening and now it makes more sense

and so i you know talking to some people on the team side of things it's you know he was disappointed that winnipeg wasn't like we're gonna sign you right now in the spring we're gonna get you into nhl games down the stretch like no promises for the playoffs we're a contender here but you know get your feet wet a little bit here earn a little NHL money burn a year off that ELC and then next year here's where we envision you playing in our bottom six but you still have to make the team if they had said that I think he signs and he's already that's that's sold and done but instead they're like no we won't give you any ice right now and we can't assure you a spot in the NHL next year so if you want to come out we'll sign you but we're going to put you in the AHL

right away we won't burn that contract year and then you'll probably have to play there next year And for him now, like with the NCAA, they're getting that NIL money. He's probably going to make more money at Michigan than he would have in the AHL. So there's a lot of kind of moving parts in this whole scenario. But, you know, as far as what his upside is, I think like top nine, for sure. Top six upside, but kind of like this versatile power forward who can play in most situations for you.

And especially if he can keep those feet moving in the right direction. So he's a little bit like when you're, you know, Bowser or Donkey Kong and Mario Kart takes a little bit to get going, but once you get going you're hard to stop right like you're that big body you're gonna run through guys so uh another quicker step and you can have like a serious player um and if that doesn't come along i think a really useful top nine piece the leafs didn't have a pick in that range but a birdie told me at that draft in 2022 they really really liked rutger and rutger really really liked them well it'd be nice to get two national team uh players or three i guess with nice

nize matthews mcgordy that'd be okay yeah it'd be team usa and canada he grew up as a leafs fan right i think i think he grew up a leafs fan yeah i believe so oh that'd be great yeah yeah and him and cutter goche are best buddies right and now they're both gonna spurn the two the teams that drafted them and bounce before getting uh getting their first games in the show i'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that the reaction in winnipeg is going to be a little bit more muted than it was in philadelphia perhaps perhaps i get hard to top that eh hard to top that hey cam uh thank you so much for joining us cam robinson elite prospects uh good luck over the next few days i know this is your stanley cup so uh we really appreciate you making time for us yeah thanks a lot for having

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