The Steve Dangle Podcast - FIN4L | June 11, 2021

Episode Date: June 11, 2021

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Adrian Dater asks Nathan MacKinnon an odd question (00:00), the Golden Knights knock off the Avs (15:00), the Islanders will take on the Tampa Bay Lightning (34:00), yes the North Division sucks & quick Leafs expansion draft talk (53:00), the Blue Jackets hire a new head coach (58:30), what happens to Manny Malhotra (1:03:00), and Rob Rossi tweets (1:06:00). Originally aired: June 11, 2021 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/1HuODKucWn4 Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp Visit this episode's sponsors: https://magicspoon.com/sdp https://www.creditkarma.ca/ https://www.getroman.com/sdp https://ca.manscaped.com/ https://betmgm.com/dangle Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

the steve dangle podcast with your host steve dangle adam wild and jesse blake uh dave you know i know you're a gamer and uh and all this and uh you know i'm just thinking maybe out loud as far as in your shoes right now it's like all right we've done all the we can do we've done all the game planning we can do maybe maybe you know just fuck it we'll just go in next year and just not think that anymore and just win this thing when we don't take that much is that am i on the right path at all with this like maybe you just guys think a little too much no last one here for nathan mark specter sports set poor spec had to follow that up i feel bad for mark specter we should have had mark specter on today just to talk about that

fucking experience oh that would have been hilarious oh no you wouldn't uh no i don't have his number or do i maybe i do it's okay i don't know but i would i wish we had uh so so nate nate can you translate the last question everybody's talking about the swearing i think what i want to do i want to do is go go through the the sentence itself i think we need to go through the sentence by the way if you don't know that who that is it's adrian dater of where does he work now i want to say the denver post okay okay let me see long time reporter there bit of an infamous cat uh definitely an infamous cat and has been in the news for the wrong reasons before but in this particular case it's a and i don't actually know the story because that was

pre me really getting into hockey in the media side um let's put it at bad dms that you shouldn't dm oh okay there you go so you guys want me to read his uh where he works from his twitter bio please do yeah so it's uh adrian dater avalanche writer editor boss for colorado hockey now.com as insider at 104.3 the fan uh writer at bookies well they let him on the radio uh man he's better at answering questions than he is at asking them we're all proof that they'll let anyone on the radio well i guess but okay so let's let's let's replay that question because that was sure who cares that vegas got through last night that was the biggest news that question i mean it was the biggest highlight all right you guys ready for it again i'm ready please

as far as in your shoes right now it's like all right we've done all uh dave you know i know you're a gamer and uh and all this and uh you know i'm just thinking maybe out loud as far as in your shoes right now it's like all right we've done all the thinking we can do we've done all the game planning we can do maybe maybe you know just fuck it we'll just go in next year and just not think that anymore and just win this thing when we don't take so much is that am i on the right path at all with this like maybe you just guys think a little too much so so oh i don't forget the no nate so basically like what's to do in that situation you know he did the only option yeah like he so it's basically like so like i don't know this season you're good but like

you were thinking and maybe next year it's like fuck it don't think and then you win right right like what was that now here's the thing i have asked some horrendous questions to you guys to himself i've got i called nick robertson the defenseman i you know i i you used to do the dangle dial oh okay but if anybody doesn't understand you you please explain the dangle dial the dangle dial to me was okay so Steve already is a bit of a cartoon character as you probably know but what it was the fan 590s initial attempt to pull Steve into the fold here in Toronto and the idea was that Steve would literally lose his mind every single time he was on and so you know because the Leafs were a frustrating team what a surprise and uh and and

Jeff Blair would try to interrupt Steve and get him to stop and Steve would just go and go and go and go and then hang up and uh and jeff uh god bless him jeff's got to be in his late 50s at this point and doesn't fucking get it uh and none of us got it got it to be honest with you i think it was a nice idea but so i would pre-record these little rants and he would talk over them in the morning yeah but he would do it in his aloof and dismissive jeff blair way and i i think he did his best to make it work to be honest i think he did too because it was it was him playing the recording and then just kind of going along with you but you're just ranting because you don't know what's actually going to happen in the moment with jeff blair it's just a recording of you so the whole

thing just came across so he'd be like so steve would be talking a million miles a minute yeah you have to be like steve uh yeah steve that's not bad uh steve um well no steve uh oh and then oh he hung up like it was just like i was like what the what's being accomplished here i don't understand this and what i didn't love about it at the time for you was that it just added to the the the stereotype about what you are which is what people were using to write you off i was trying to be wacky stunt boy right and and i didn't like that so i remember thinking like why the hell are they making him do that obviously it's worked out i don't know steve works at sports or whatever so i guess it's okay well jeff jeff made it work and but then by some miracle they

sold it so it was sponsored and so even when blair wasn't there and they had a another host we had to do it and they they whoever the they would not get it they would not get it they would not play along they did not enjoy the bit at all and i would just die a thousand deaths on air every day um there's a real trooper like that's a good guy yeah oh blair yeah jeff blair oh yeah i mean he called into his own show when adam and i filled in for him yeah what i'm getting to is i've i've had many awkward experiences in front of a mic and you just deal with it and i feel like we wouldn't be making as big a deal over this clip this morning if he had some humor about it yeah so i mean full marks to pete blackburn uh for posting the clip because i mean who's really

merry christmas who's going dig deep on uh post games but pete did and what was interesting about that is uh like is this is the second to last question you'll hear okay last question mark specter sports net like it is deep into the you know usually you listen to the first three questions the players answered all they're going to answer nate mckinnon looks like he's going to cry like what's he going to say at this point why are we still asking this man questions and like he you know he just come off saying i've been in the league 10 years and i haven't won shit like what there's your quote like i don't know what you're gonna ask that you're gonna get that's more powerful than that and that's a damn good quote by the way that is a great point and i and

i wrote about this in my book have i told you that i wrote a book there was a an uh oakland ace pitcher i think who the a's were on like some ridiculous losing streak this is when i was an intern and i got to go do the visiting locker room for the jays they were on like an eight game losing streak and i want to say they were leading like by three runs or something heading into the eighth and he blows it he blows it the jays win and their streak continues we got as you know maybe a dozen of us with microphones in his face we got about 45 seconds in and we all looked at each other realized we had our quote because he was like i cost us the game or whatever we we looked at each other we realized we had our quote and everyone backed off yeah right away

we're like okay that's enough right and i think with with zoom you don't have that sort of um that vibe thing you know what i mean like there's like a human to human i'm gonna back off this subject now um and i find that in zoom meetings too is there's just not the same social cues that are available to people normally and it's funny i'm glad that we've been able to adjust with this show because i know when we first started doing it over zoom it was pretty tough and and you know now it just feels like old hat like this is what we've been doing but um you know it certainly it was it was awkward and they some of the post game stuff is awkward just because guys are taking their mute off or you know they're trying to talk to p it's it's very very complicated now um so

pete blackburn takes the clip posts it it has right now 11 000 likes close to 12 oh and so so So immediately, and as Steve said this perfectly, if Adrian had had a sense of humor about this and said, yeah, man, you got me. It was a, that was one of the dumbest questions I've ever asked. Everybody would have been like, ah, over. But what Adrian responds with is, oh, thanks Pete for the lesson in online decorum. And then, so Pete being Pete responded back with, I mean, this is lit. I mean, your question was literally this.

and it was the bill o'reilly uh fuck it oh all what's that what does he say in it it's we'll do it live we'll do it live what do you mean it's a truly surreal clip it is it's crazy because he doesn't understand what playing somebody out is and then adrian said fair enough just talking like hockey people talk sorry if it's too sensitive for your ears he said that to pete and pete wrote you're right nate seemed to get it and then i'm just looking at tweet and then and then adrian responded again oh did he go again he said you're right pete i forgot you're the best beat writer in hockey oh wait i uh just for just forgot you've never been a beat writer you've never covered a team day to day bro you just say you fucked up and then he and then he blocked him then he blocked

but pete's like i thought i was the sensitive one like like i listen i get it it's easier to just talk shit from a computer than it is to be a beat writer like I did it briefly and I was like this is fucking hard like yeah but that has nothing to do also he followed off today just

yeah he said in response to a tweet that says well the only thing that made any of us laugh the last four games was probably data's questioned McKinnon in post game so thank you data for putting a smile on our faces and it was a good question just a little jumbled

haters gonna hate so he replied to that tweet by saying I mangled the question big time there's a reason I'm a writer and not a broadcaster but that's what he probably should have said initially and not angrily he was probably sore

it was a dumb question sorry he's probably sore in the moment but like I think he's I think he got internet mad I think he got internet mad and hey we've all been there all been there we've all been big internet mad sub jesse jesse has never been internet mad i don't think jesse posted anyone internet mad isn't a thing you should get no don't let the

anonymous internet peoples infect your brain waves humans or noted sensitive troll pete blackburn oh my god it's just just there's also do you want to hear a couple more of the back and force dater was going out after the pete's interaction yes yes i do so on twitter i was like yeah you didn't ask him more no like oh okay okay okay so someone tweeted at dater and he said pete just laughed he didn't even critique you and then dater said couldn't give two shits what pete thinks about me oh no and then uh somebody said this is going to be on chiclets right and he said oh no chicklets might get on me oh god how will i survive uh and then as somebody else said data you're really an idiot and he said you got it wrong bro but thanks for the evaluation it

was a question where i was trying to be sympathetic to mckinnon so that's not everybody today i i don't know maybe i just humiliate myself more often but like the the the play there is you wear it like you you wear it yeah i asked an elmer fudd ass question and said fuck on a zoom call that as i saw someone tweet yesterday they made a great point like sometimes they go live to air yeah which i think is ill-advised anyway but yeah but the swearing's not that bad like okay whatever like it's it's the f word it are we all gonna pretend like we haven't heard it it's like on eastern on the eastern seaboard it's past midnight in the west it's past like 11 p.m like who cares it's really not going to make that big of a difference so everybody getting on on them

about decorum like i get it you don't want your reporters cussing it around uh with their questions but that is not the the uh the bad part here the bad part is the way the question was asked and the response to the question like when you fuck up like okay so for instance and steve i hate to put you on the spot like this but when when steve thought it was a good idea to walk up to mark messier during a stamp unveiling at at the hockey hall of fame with a stanley cup cookie and said hey mark i want to take a picture could you put the stanley cup pick uh cookie above your head and mark said no you know we wore we we enjoyed that clip for weeks you that's where you have it wrong you have it wrong adam i have it wrong that was the second time i humiliated

myself in front of mark messier oh okay the first time was that like the opening of some rogers store in the eaton center or something and then i asked him to hold the cookie above his head for a photo i thought he thought you were a fan right and not somebody they are covering the event right then the hockey hall of fame thing i wanted him to comment on nick kiprios's china club story because there was a recent story he had told on her show and i thought it was relevant and he was just like well i don't remember thanks mark thanks man i can't wait to meet him again and go over three it's gonna be great it's gonna be great and at that time what we'll do is go well you win some you lose some well and you know what we had fun with it but i was a little sore oh yeah but it was

a little sore but that's sort of what made it fun and you gotta have maybe maybe adrian needs his friends around him like you have to tease you about it right to warm it up a little bit because to me that is a quintessential steve dangle moment because you're so innocent at heart you are and it's so funny you know when you when you deal with steve he really does wish and hope the best for people and is not jaded at all still and it's funny because except for with the leafs and it's funny that that like he would have thought yeah mark messi is totally down to hold this cookie above his head probably some fucking stranger who's never he's never talked to yeah no man i definitely want to be your dancing pony it's totally cool uh so no you got to pay him for

that yeah you got to pay him for that he did he did i saw that tight commercial mark was stone cold i saw it anyway sorry messier it's messy messier hilarious for money i'm sore well maybe it's only funny for money which i i get yeah so anyway i uh uh i it was was a fun clip hey so um vegas is pretty good eh holy shit like really really good yeah they made colorado look average they really did and like the abs have been so good all year and the way uh well i think it was the second game of the playoffs cadre gets suspended and then the abs still just deal with the blues games three and four and then they were up to nothing on vegas like they gave you no reason to think oh you know they're gonna really miss cadry

or having or not having cadry is gonna be the reason you sink or swim in this series and vegas beat them four straight times four straight times and it's just you know we we think of the leafs as the only young team who plays young in the league just because we're so hyper focused on them colorado looked like an extremely talented team playing playing young better like they're better than the leafs 100 despite what some people on the internet will tell you they they're better than the leafs and by some people i mean exactly one person who said that call the Leafs are better than Colorado editor and Leaf exactly one person and they were okay but it's okay I've been wrong before too uh that but they made they made a lot

of young mistakes and I believe they were up one nothing last night and then Grubauer allows a goal he's not even looking at and he didn't see the puck it was the goal the avalanche was 22 seconds in and then uh vegas scored like 30 seconds later it's two goals within a minute yeah and you know for either goalie there i wouldn't blame them but um but yeah we would have thought nick holden would be the guy to even things up nick holden vegas man vegas they take they take guys who you just don't think about and make them stars exactly well um colorado got i think they're they're a little screwed on the penalty front in terms of just calls for their side because i think the last time vegas took a penalty that wasn't a uh a too many men on the ice was like the first

period of game five so they went like six what is that five consecutive periods without a penalty called against them which just isn't true you know so they're getting away with mauling um mauling the avalanches star players which is kind of which is kind of how they shut down the team It was kind of, hey, you got to stop these guys, even though it was run and gun for the first two periods yesterday. No, if they're true stars, they should be able to get through that. Gretzky did. Oh, no, he didn't.

That's right, because Dave Semenko would knock your fucking teeth out. Right. So is this part of the conversation now, then? Because I don't want to take anything away from any of the four teams that are in the Final Four. Vegas, Tampa, Montreal, Islanders. I don't want to take anything away from any of them. I do, but we'll get to that.

They earned the spot in the Final Four. Okay, fine. But they earned their spot in the Final Four. But how do we get past that a factor every year in the playoffs is the officiating in the NHL is the worst in professional sports? How do we get past that? McDavid, eight straight playoff games without a penalty drawn. It's a joke.

And I've said it, I'll say it for like the third consecutive show. That should cost someone their employment. That's ridiculous. From the Montreal series, Steve, there wasn't a penalty called on Mark Shifley after game one. like he didn't draw a single one it's crazy i don't know what happened it's wild it's why it's catchy too yeah you're talking about a top three top five player in the league and mark shifley adam what are you what what is this in reference to all the seasonings in the world and you chose

salt i'm quoting blake wheeler and also i think it's funny that you could claim that mark shifley did not draw a penalty after game one okay okay i don't know why you're taking digs that you don't oh i think you do all right now they're out and i but i think i think you're absolutely right steve like in all honesty like if you've got again and and people in the comments are like i don't think espn cares about what you guys think they care about i'm like yeah they fucking do the whole way you sell a game is you have stars in it and if you you know like for the for this year for the nba playoffs it's not good for the playoffs that lebron's out early it wouldn't have been lebron and kawaii could have easily been out in the first round right and you know there are

still stars left for sure but we're look at the the top 20 scores in the nhl are there any left um so i made a i made a round three preview video today for sportsnet and i was looking at the top scorers you know the top scorer in the playoffs is who's nikita kucherov oh of course 11 or no sorry 18 points in 11 games man so uh i mean man he had a zero point season so now you got these guys who don't even score in the regular season and all of a sudden the playoffs hit the stars listen i was told the islanders were exciting because they've scored the most goals in the playoffs it's like guys like we'll get to that you're not exciting no but the the officiating so the dang it's next week i'll just give you a preview uh like a big part of it is going to be

uncalled headshots blatant headshots nick ritchie gets a five thousand dollar fine for braining a guy call paul mary i think got nothing for braining a guy andre palat doesn't get a hearing for braining a guy when are you going to take this seriously when are you going to take this seriously sydney crosby didn't do it right so what's it going to take it nothing changed when the best player in the sport the number one attraction in the sport was out for a year and a half so what reason is there to expect that anything is going to change that was 10 years ago it's not going to change so biggest stars in the sport are just going to keep getting concussed i guess um can i correct myself from earlier i said uh first period in game five is actually

second period in game four the last time uh vegas was called for a penalty that wasn't a delay of game it was a coincidental roughing for alex tuck um so yeah it was just watching the game last night it was just they're swarming the avalanches big stars and it was just working but like that that first and second period if you're trying to sell the game to like america and espn like that those are the two periods i'd want them to watch from the hockey perspective because there's the two best teams it was seven goals scored some of them are just awful and messy and some of them were just snipe shows it was it was a great two periods of hockey and i think like those were the I think those are two best teams in the playoffs and we saw that was the

Stanley cup. And I think everybody probably most likely the Stanley cup and it's unfortunate for Colorado that on paper they lose in the second round. But if we, if out of context and history, they probably lost to the second best team in the playoffs right now. Cause yeah, this series was electric. I hate doing this too. I do hate doing this, but we do have to bring it up again.

Yeah. I watched the pieces of the game that I could cause I had to be up early um and all the highlights and thought the whole time what's this series like with Nazem Qadri in it yeah man you know I I was tweeting about it too like last year Colorado was completely vindicated like we took a risk on this guy and look at how he rewards us scoring game winners record breakers he was one of their best producers one of their best performers and then the next year for the third time in four years he's suspended in the first two games of the playoffs so what do you do like how do you there mathematically there's no there's no way he does

it again he's like what are the chances it happens a third time come on so this is the thing this is the thing like people are like oh they gotta trade him to whoo yo here's here's what you do you trade him to buffalo for jack eichel because he's great regular season performer and uh and he's great in the playoffs too but the sabers aren't going anywhere and nate mckinnon makes six and a half million you can fit jack eichel in there do it you figure out what you got to do to make cadre for sam reinhardt work and see if that doesn't wake him up maybe that's what it would be it's not far off from me is he out of chances i mean he can't be he's too good right because he's not in terms of just teams who are willing to take a chance on him but the problem

is if you trade him to a legitimate contender right you trade him to a legitimate contender they're gonna have the same questions and the value goes down if you trade him to a team that's like we might be a fringe playoff team who knows then it's like it doesn't matter just get us in yes if you need a guy to get you to the playoffs but if you're a contender you can't depend on this person that's three series or three seasons out of the last four where you look at game seven for the leafs in 2018 and you go what if you look at game seven in 2019 or no sorry he was in game seven in 2018 yeah 2019 though and then uh this year they lose four straight and vegas was super physical you're telling me cadre doesn't goad them into something into some sort of shenanigans

and then we're having a different conversation about the penalties they were winning that game against st louis i think it was three to one i i don't know what to tell you i don't know what to tell you it's i don't know what you do about that because we it is a bummer this show is a person yeah all three of us big nazim qadri fans it's a bummer it's a real bummer and i think a lot of toronto fans are huge nazim qadri fans because for a long time he was the whipping boy here everybody was mad at him mad at kessel mad at denouf like he was there when things were really bad and by some miracle he remained with the team he was almost traded about 45 times and turned into a monster like a really good player for the leafs uh under mike babcock and became one of the

most effective players they had and it was it's such a shame because there's a local guy who came up through the ranks and you know three years in the minors and like all of the stuff that you had to do to win and he got there and then you're just you're seeing this happen again and again and again and i think some serious questions need to be asked the abs the abs i i think if you're if you're joe sackick how do you i mean what do you do like because the thing is with the abs their whole mantra is get the best player available which if you ask me i think the leaf should have stuck to that bold strategy cotton um we'll see if it pays off how do you at this point and like i said i think i already answered the question but how do you how do you

get maximum value best player for nasm cadre are you going to win the nasm cadre trade well and here on a player-to-player basis the leafs didn't here's what was at stake here unrestricted free agents for the colorado avalanche we'll start in net jonas johansson who they got at the deadline adam werner is an rfa dubnik is a ufa grubauer who is nominated for the vesna is a ufa that's going to be a world to hurt uh on defense they got 12 guys kyle burrows uh dylan renouf uh kale mccarr is an rfa oh for the love of god dennis gilbert connor timmons uh both rfas patrick nemeth ufa liam o'brien ufa jason mania ufa miko salamaki ufa keifer sherwood rfa tj tynan ufa tyson jost rfa carl soderbergh ufa here edward uh belmar ufa

Brandon Saad UFA and your captain Gabriel Landeskog UFA that is a go for it year and I realize there's more names on that list look at like I'm looking forwards 21 defense 12 goalies five it's because that's their playoff lineup but it's it's uh if if not this year than when I mean they'll still be good next year but we're talking Kale McCarr getting nominated for the Norris and on a on a on a entry-level contract where he's making less than the rookie maximum to kill

McCarran made 880 this wow dude and Landis Gog is probably not signing for less than 5.5 which he was making this year sod Oh God Oh that's what was at stake and listen Padres in the

series do they win do they lose well now we'll never know well we i think at very least we get a game seven probably you know and and that's what i you know i think everybody would have wanted that from this series because it was a spectacular series there really was said you know you want to see team one and team two go head to head and we got it it was great so um jesse you have something to say uh if we're moving on just like to note that vegas has the worst camera angle for their broadcast it's way too low down towards the ice is it is it worse than san jose no san jose is pretty bad too san jose lighting is horrible it's weird yeah anyway calgary's is really video gamey but the lighting

kind of compensates yeah yeah well calgary's is a stupid saddle you know there's so many complications with that wasn't we got a concave uh ceiling there you definitely look at that building from the outside and go well this would be a neat idea if this was the sims right but like it's real life and maybe you shouldn't have yeah anyways vegas raise your raise your camera yeah so um with that i we'll get into and obviously we can we can do a little bit on the aisles in boston but i think we should just get into the series that first off i do want to say before all that the nhl rushed rushed to get into the first round rushed could not have gone into it faster in fact they made the canadian division wait for four or five days but the rest

of the nhl jumped in because they needed to get the they need to get the cup out there we need we need to wear this fucking cup get it off our hands it's a hot potato and now we don't have another game until sunday night and it's not even sunday night it's sunday afternoon at 3 p.m i'd like to apologize to the nhl for the fact they have seven canadian teams i'm like we're really sorry for the inconvenience it's just like why did we have to rush that if it like if we're taking a couple days off here what's the big deal like i just get are we gonna get into this round are we not gonna get into this round it should start right away it should start on saturday night but now sunday afternoon your hockey what's your night saturday night that's absurd scheduling

yeah it's just so i like i've tried to take it easy on the schedule just because I don't know shit's messed up this year but it's basically I mean there's almost no restrictions at the arenas that are playing in the states and it's not like the Islanders in Boston have a long way to travel to see each other right uh Islanders um Tampa Islanders Tampa excuse me sorry yeah they could have even then two-hour flight they could have played they could have played Vegas Montreal that's a tough third round that is a tough third round that is but I'm just whoever comes out of that series is going to be pretty wiped i think i think the problem for me is that it's like you just there's no need to stop let go they're getting a way of they're getting in the way

of themselves by not playing on saturday night there's opening right because i can tell you as a leaf fan when uh you stop watching it for the first round which happens to us every goddamn year um you realize oh man there's other things to do like we can do stuff and it's summer and it's nice And the NHL is going to lose that, that momentum. And that matters. That shit matters. But anyway. Two in five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer.

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Islanders so wait you're saying the Islanders are gonna beat them I think they're gonna win wow I think you're gonna beat Tampa I so I was very conflicted making my predictions today because the Islander I mean it's stupid to bet against them and I'll I've said it every video I haven't taken them in every video because, I mean, they're playing, you know, the Penguins, who I thought had learned a thing or two and for a while looked like they had. The Bruins were the hottest team in hockey, and Taylor Hall couldn't stop until he aggressively, abruptly stopped. You know, it's dumb to bet against the Islanders. The Tampa Bay Lightning beat them last year sans Stamkos, and now they've got him. Stamkos is fifth in playoff scoring.

And they got a Kucherov who's playing the best hockey of his career. Like, absolutely no rust. Absolutely no fatigue. Like, it's, I, you don't have to take anything away from the Islanders in order to say, I think Tampa's going to win this. They're too good. If the Islanders beat them, holy shit. Guys, guys, the Islanders, and I understand what you're saying,

but the Islanders also did just shut down Marchand and Bergeron. yeah uh marshan had a wave marshan had a great series he did he scored two goals in that game six and both of them were really nice goals especially the second one when he boxed out his man in front of the net like he's playing basketball and just uh shuffle the puck into the net marshan was beautiful you uh on wednesday night my point hardest thing to do in the league right now my point with scoring is you have a team with bergeron marshan perennial playoff performers paster neck perennial playoff performer taylor hall has played uh three minutes in the playoffs his entire career and played really great in the first round and you shut him down

and i know tuka rask was injured i get that everybody's very injured though what is it torn torn labrum in his hip or something about that labrum in his hip steve made a point years ago when tyler johns was just ripping it up in the playoffs and then had a wrist injury and he was like he he came back and they froze it and it was broken and steve's point was are you telling me 50 of tyler johnson is better like 50 health tyler johnson is better than the guy who you're sitting in his place i think the guy back then was a really young vlad namestikov and i'm like there's no way tyler johnson with a broken wrist is better than vlad namestikov at anything like there's no way and like jordan swayman was so good for the bruins all year

like he was healthy right yep and like i you know what i think was happening there they realized rask you know he could be done with the team and they wanted him to basically go out on uh his shield guys you had a chance to win here you had a chance yeah also halak dude did we forget that Halak played for them in the playoffs last year and they still have him on the roster. He was their starting goalie because Rask didn't make the bubble. Is Halak still on the Boston roster?

Yeah. Let me look. Jeremy Swayman, I wanted to see. That was what I wanted. Is it Jeremy? Jeremy. Oh, it is Jeremy. Whoops. I got it wrong this time. The Steve point you brought up is so true because it's like, what? What are we getting

out of Halak? 70% Rask? Is that better than 100% Halak? And there's no way it's 70. There's no way. It's like Ben Bishop. It's like Ben Bishop. The Lightning did it twice, really, in 2015,

because they had Ben Bishop dragging himself. That was another Pete Blackburn classic when he basically took one of the zombies from The Walking Dead and put them in the crease and was like, here's Ben Bishop in game two. He was just... I just think, here's the thing, guys. I think you can I think you can smother the lightning and if there's a team that's going

to smother you it's the Islanders I I honestly I I just think we got to give the Islanders a little more credit here I know everybody's giving it to Tampa I am all the way in on the Islanders fans and I'm all the way in on this team Barry Trotz this this effective sort of boring way that they play I mean I don't see how it's not that it's not that Stamkos isn't going to score it's not that point's not going to score it's not that kucherov's not going to score it's what happens when you can shut them down and then the secondary scoring isn't going to score at all like this is this is the thing like you eliminate everybody else and isolate those guys if the islanders are able to effectively target and get around victor headman they can win the series because that i

mean how do you do that well the tampa bay lightning are very obviously as good as he is in 2019 he was not good he was hurt and they crumbled in 2020 he was good and i believe won the con smith and they won the entire stanley cup this year he's his performance has been kind of spotty and i believe he's injured um i don't remember what the injury is it's impossible to keep up what happened last year in my opinion is the islanders tried to play the waiting game with the lightning and the opportunity just never arose because it's the lightning you're not the only team who can play defense for god's sake yep and they play great defense but i do think the islanders offense is better than we give it credit for and they're deeper than we give them credit

for and that's why the Zajac Paul Mary trade helped them so much Peugeot has been really good for them these playoffs, Beauvilliers has been really good. That's my favorite thing about the Islanders is the Beauvilliers-Nelson-Bailey line because they have this thing where

they shut it down in the neutral zone or just like on the edge of the defensive zone they did this so many three times on Wednesday to the Bruins and it led to I think two goals and then one other scoring chance where they just pick pocket you in that little area and then they whoever gets the puck if it's bailey or it's nelson they just they hurry it down the ice and

they get this shot and then twice it worked and it led to two goals for nelson another time it was like a an opportunity for a bavillier but those that that line in particular does whatever little system they're running so well where they're able to stop the offensive flow before it gets going down at the other end and then turn it immediately into an offensive chance and like that's what makes the islanders so dangerous because they don't allow the shots and then they get one or a couple down on the other end and that little quick turn is real it's really scary and it stopped the bruins and who knows if it can stop tampa so i love the reverence that you're talking about the islanders with like because colorado vegas i think anybody with half their brain turned on

who has never watched a hockey game in their entire life could have enjoyed that series. Yes. Or the Lightning versus the Panthers. Yep. That could be the first hockey you've ever watched. Seven goals, two periods. Flick that brain off and enjoy.

Tampa versus the Islanders. If that's what you're looking for, I think it could be a bit of a challenge for you. But if you want to learn about hockey, and you have the patience for it, Wow. You will love it. Well, and so like, I've gotten the question a few times and I don't know if I'm the right

person to ask, but someone will be like, I'm new to hockey. Um, oh, you know what it was? I kept talking about how Tavares is the little thing King. And he, he just, he's not as flashy as some of the guys in the Leafs who are extremely flashy. He is more difficult to watch than Matthews or Marner. You don't need to even have your, you could have one eye open. watch matthews and be like that guy's a freaking star tavaris on some nights if you're not fully

paying attention you'll be like this guy's a bum he's not doing anything if you're engaged you're like oh this guy's actually amazing he's like holding this team together that to me if if you watch hockey that way if you watch the lightning and islanders that way you'll learn a ton about the sport how systems work um attention to detail and when you do see the same thing over and over again the lightning attack the islander stop it the lightning attack the islander stop it when the lightning finally break through that repetition allows you to realize oh they did this this time and it beat them and then you watch the islanders adjust and you go whoa it's it will be i think a bit of a chess match that doesn't mean it's going to be boring i i also want to say this every time

i watch mark stone and jg pajo i i'm first off i think they're the eastern and western conference version of each other and then i'm reminded that they were on the same team and did ottawa over to eric carlson wanting out they oversold really stone didn't want to sign there well yeah i guess he didn't eh was there i think man i i just feel like maybe it was a eugene thing or whatever boy did they fuck that up like it's not it's not that they aren't building really well because i think pierre dorian's done a really good job and uh you know there's a lot to love about the ottawa senators currently but you know i look at some of the players that they had and i think man if you'd gotten rid of the problem areas carlson didn't want to be there hoffman needed to go

you can't you can't repair that the problem area is the owner it was because at the 18-19 season when they traded Stone to Vegas for Brandstrom and that little package. It was because Stone was becoming a UFA and Ottawa was like, hey, we don't have money. Our owner's not going to pay up for Mark Stone. Just ship him over

to Vegas. It's so much easier to pitch a rebuild there because during a rebuild, you don't have to pay anybody. This is the thing about the Sens. I think we all agree they're young and talented and they're going to be better next year and they're going to continue to get better. But at some point down the line you're gonna have to pay these dudes and then what well brady's gonna be first

we'll see if he signs that extension this offseason and but then they got to keep going it's not just gonna be brady it's gonna be this guy and then this guy and then this guy it's it's it's almost like they got to hit this sweet spot in order to contend and in 2017 they found it but once like their window slammed shut with the money it's a tough way to be it's pierre dorian every 10 years do you get a swing like pierre dorian might be a much more talented gm than we give him credit for just because of the the tight uh parameters that he's i mean i think we have to give him a ton of credit that that team played great um dj smith deserves a ton of credit as well um it's a you know he's assembled this band of merry men um but as we know as things you know like the thing is

it's it's easy when you're not when there's nothing at stake when there are no expectations there is something to that and trust me i watching the 16 17 leafs barely squeak in and you're playing with house money man that's great that's fun what happens when it's been five years and you haven't got out of the first round it's a little bit annoying and you've got an owner who's squirreling i mean really that's to me part of it with with with what happened in ottawa at least just feels this way is the owner just like i'm tired of cheering for this particular group because he could have paid them if he can pay the guys now why couldn't he have paid them then i don't know anyway we're getting off track i'm all the way in on the islanders i understand

that that is a tough take but i think i'm it's not that it's not that tough it's back-to-back conference finals they're a very good team i'm just curious to see what barry trotz can do with the tampa bay lightning this year that's all i think what can you do against them i think don decision said this is only the second time in the cap era there's been a repeat of the conference final oh we have three three teams come back and cory perry's team i saw that tweet today that's funny good that's oh wow i forgot vegas was final four last year too yeah yeah wow yeah pretty cool um with regards to vegas montreal i mean the odds makers aren't giving montreal much credit uh i said it on the last show i think it's a 4-0 sweep um maybe montreal gets a game

But if they have a chance here, it has to start with Carey Price, right? A hundred percent. It's got to start with Carey Price. Vegas, here's the thing. I think Montreal had a very clear game plan against the Leafs in the first round. And that's, we're going to try to bully them. And the Leafs did their best to resist that. And it ended up wearing on them.

Vegas is the team that does that to you. and they're bigger but kind of older decor in montreal that's you're gonna have a that's not gonna be fun it's really not gonna be fun and philip dino has been so good but in each series for reasons beyond his control his job was made easier that's that's not an insult against him you know let's forget the injury to Tavares forget the suspension to Shifley let's say they got abducted by aliens instead Philip would your job be easier if John Tavares was abducted by an alien in game one of the series yep would your job be easier if Mark Shifley got abducted by an alien in game one of the series yep so who on Vegas takes themselves or

what happens in the universe that takes a star vegas center out of the game and then montreal walks into the stanley co finals william carlson or chandler stevenson and they just come at you in waves they're heavy um they got really good goaltending and it's probably it's probably the best defense the montreal's faced and the leafs wasn't even bad um i just you don't it's like the islanders tampa conversation for me you don't have to take anything away from montreal to look at vegas and go they should win right we should be gearing up for a vegas tampa final well then i'm see i'm the thing is people are taking this is like i've been hard on dom du charme because i think he's i i just don't i just don't think he's a great coach you did it i did it i

actually said it right but i think it's i think it's great that they're going to hang on to him for three or four years it's fantastic as a leaf fan uh not a strategic genius from what i've seen but wow but goodness you got to give montreal full marks for getting here you can't take that away good for you that's awesome however um when we're looking at this particular matchup it's not a stretch to say that the second place team in the nhl will probably steamroll the 18th place team isn't that amazing and there's people that are saying to me like on twitter well montreal's record doesn't really show it all because uh they had a harder start out of covid and they had like they're in cold coffee i have habs fans in my mentions for 48

hours explaining to me how they're not an 18th place team well you know what okay where were you heading into round one guys yeah well where were you heading into round one i didn't hear any of the ship talk heading into that leaf series now you're standing taller i get it they have results you're into round three and you're standing taller and you're feeling yourself but where were you heading into the first round i didn't see any of you any of you you were gearing up for it i didn't see you after game four i know that after game five you started to show up after game six you really started to show up and after game seven there you are it's your party i get it but where were you

you're big habs fan support your team come on where were you i mean they were they were supporting i think but it was sort of like well we don't really have a shot no they were hoping and i just remind the people that if the haves win even one game adam has to make a 200 donation to black or hockey which i'm happy about thrilled to but they're not and i have to give regardless i think i i listen back and i still don't understand you have to hold a cookie stanley cup above your head no no i'll do it i think i'm not a jerk i think it's not like the thing is i'm trying to be as kind as possible to be like people like you're just salty about toronto know you just can't handle montreal i'm like i'm the one who was cool with the with the cn tower

being lit up red blue and white like i am salty about the leafs but that has nothing to do with montreal it has everything to do with the least fucking blowing it again doesn't mean that montreal like okay montreal beat winnipeg who didn't pick that we kind of thought that that was going to happen didn't we and a lot of tweets recently you can just blow a fart at well so the thing i'm saying is just because i'm a toronto maple east fan doesn't mean i i can't look at the habs objectively and go they're you're 18th and they're second and they just beat first nobody including montreal reporters had montreal winning yes none of this not even the first round yes like no one in canada no one in the states no one in toronto no one in montreal no one had them

and neither did you stop it neither did you you hoped like we all hope but you know i'm gonna go ahead and pick montreal to beat vegas there it is there it is i'm gonna go on the limb that nobody wants to go out on alan walsh is preparing the deborah sword and he's ready to spear you with it sir because if flurry turns into a pumpkin it's a series one thing that happened last night was Fleury wasn't the best. He made one when it was 4-3, he came across and he made one beautiful save and it was

vintage Fleury. But other than that, the three goals he let in weren't the best goals. So there's a chance Fleury, I don't know. He's not a cost in the series but he can be a factor if Montreal can get through. Of course. Listen, Carey Price has been

really, really good in these playoffs. Yes. But he's beatable. He looked human against the Leafs he got I mean game seven was his masterpiece for sure um but I don't even think that was his best game of the series and he still looked beatable and he gave up multiple multi-goal leads the Jets series uh I mean Jets fans I don't think will take any insult that series was trash yeah it wasn't good hockey those guys stunk they did not look like a second uh a second round hockey team I think I think they were missing their number one guy guys I think we're

it's fair to admit that uh i mean do we not now just admit that we were wrong about the north division and that it wasn't very good it's a hunk of shit yeah it's not the best garbage yeah they were right we don't have to take anything away from the habs again they're they're here but like dude this division stunk yeah the leafs did in fact beat up on very bad teams and they weren't a very good team themselves yeah like the oilers and leafs both have to be looking at themselves the one and two teams in that division and they got to go oh god not only did we lose in the first round but this division stunk i gotta take every team that missed the playoffs and the flames who like sort of narrowly missed it they got to be like wow we

we might actually be dog shit yeah i think the flames need to blow it up i mean seeing what you've seen but the um the thing with uh julian mckenzie texted me the day and he's like you know brighter things ahead for toronto whatever because he was giving me the gears about how you know my and i said and i had to tell you man like julian's a really nice dude and he's the best i don't believe that there are brighter days ahead i think the leafs are in deep shit and we can talk about that all summer but i actually don't think i don't i think that they're worse than we thought when adam starts to sniff that's when you know he's about to tell you some shit that you're not gonna like but you just gotta take it he's i think the leafs i don't i

don't think they have it i don't think they have it uh and i don't think they have it with this core and i'm just gonna go out and say it they just do not they're gonna look way but we'll don't worry we're gonna do three more years of this and then everybody will leave via free agency day arizona right because that's where they're all signing so not wait um i did uh i did a little digging yesterday so the leafs ahead of the expansion draft do actually have to sign someone yeah at least one person um because if they do the four and four which everyone seems to think they're going to do the big four at forward and then they're going to protect muzzin they're going to protect riley brody and hall i got a disturbing amount of tweets saying the leaf should expose

muzzin and i can't tell if it was a bit it must be it has to be a bit um some saying hall probably canucks fans being like huh they've been pretty funny this year so they certainly have given credit so let's say it's four and four if the leafs do that um the leafs do not meet exposure requirements so they need to sign one of bagosian i think hutton and dermot one of those three in order to have enough defensemen to expose to seattle in the expansion draft so i would expect i mean they could trade for someone i doubt it i don't really i don't see why you would trade for an asset that you're just going to expose unless you're just surrendering cap space I don't know.

You trade Engvall for a defenseman. Could you trade Kerfoot and they get taken? That was floated on Twitter. It was funny. You know what sucks? Kerfoot, like, add to the list of amazing Leaf performances in that series that were just pissed away. Yep.

No one's giving him any credit. Poor guy. He was – we wanted to trade him all year. Leaf fans were like, it's got to be Kerfoot. He's going to go. He's going to go. He's going to go. Great player in the playoffs.

and they kept him and he rewarded the team for keeping him and nothing nothing done in first round again ah it's just not fair anyway sorry that's all i wanted to say is the leafs need to sign or acquire a defenseman ahead of the expansion draft or they're gonna have to expose one of muz and riley brody or hall it's kind of a big story they'll figure it out they will they will occur if it's gone i'm sorry but let's do a quick press conference two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th join thousands in toronto for the princess margaret cancer foundation walk challenge yourself friends and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research

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The Presser SDP. The Steve Dangle Press Conference. News and notes, two of them. The Blue Jackets hired a new head coach. Oh, they did? I missed that. Brad Larson. uh their longtime assistant he is now uh their eighth head coach in franchise history hey hey you want to you want to have some fun go look at the tweet announcing him as the new head coach

blue jackets fans hate it oh now why what i uh i honestly i don't know enough about this person um all i know is he's been the assistant coach there for a while the where's the actual yeah here it is the official oh no i'm not reading that no there's a lot you can't read but it's the columbus blue jackets named brad larson the eighth head coach in franchise history the first response can't wait to see who the ninth head coach in franchise history is oh my god yeah i don't know enough about this person though the one thing i would say to blue jackets fans and again talking out my ass because i don't know anything about this guy but um i sort of called this with dj smith and i think i was pretty right about it being a head

coach is different from being an assistant coach and dj smith has struck me as a guy who's a great head coach and he was an assistant with the leafs there's some debate as to his success then he becomes a head coach with the sends we he was a memorial cup winning head coach in junior who knows maybe this guy's a better head coach than he is an assistant coach but i don't know blue jackets fans seem to know more than i do and they're pretty pissed are you reading the replies yeah there's not a single like hey good luck brad anything not one like you usually you get one like somebody who doesn't know enough or somebody that's not too invested or hey we don't know yet

that is that is interesting. Hate it. They hate it. Wow. Other news and note that I had was the Hart Trophy finalists were announced and Austin Matthews. Oh, yeah. So shout out.

Matthews and McDavid. I don't think he's going to win it. No. Got to go to McDavid. Hey, maybe McKinnon, but but it's nice that he's nominated. It's it's McDavid. Has to be right. Has to be. think about where we were before the edmonton sweep right yeah you're right 100 point season

going back to uh just sitting in your mistakes conversation so my final four video is up and one of the first responses from an islanders fan is just ah yes my favorite islander nathan bovillier it's anthony it's anthony did i call him nathan earlier this show i didn't i didn't notice what a fucking idiot i hate myself okay listen you know who i hate is jeff ducharme hey remember that dater conversation about how we all make mistakes it happens it happens this is i miss being in the same room as drew so bad because i would i would do these things all the time just because you're saying things too fast and he would be like dude anthony oh right right and now i just sit in my wrongness and be wrong i hate it uh this was a question from

uh do underscore rainy um he asked who uh my hottest first degree relative is what happened on the show when we we got asked our hottest first degree relatives do you remember that that conversation yes yeah that was like your second or third show with us yeah why did we do that i don't know that's funny though i that like i remember at the time laughing i don't think we answered the question but uh it's just i thought you guys might have remembered the context no man i can't remember what we did last no it was so we we got um it was just like a we wanted to do like a get to know jesse bunch of questions from listeners right someone it wasn't adam and i going hey jesse you got a hot cousin it was it was someone asked who is your hottest first

degree relative and i was like what the what is this yeah it was back when we were just trying stuff everybody's got to come up somehow right uh this was from josh vesh future of manny mel ultra with the leafs i think that's under review yeah it's okay at some point the carousel has to stop yeah the carousel has to stop yeah um at what point do the players and it's been a lot of the same players have to take ownership of the power play being ass um like why oh it's fire manny and then i forget the last guy but he's with the front knacks now and fire him and i forget who it was before him it was paul mcfarland and before that dj smith i think didn't he run it and he ran the penalty kill oh who was the other guy i'm trying to remember babs yeah anyway i mean i know

everybody wanted to get rid of haxtall last year and the defense was good this year yeah and like at some point the carousel has to stop it's gotta stop they how many assistants can you fire they're on their second head coach now this group uh management's changed personnel around them has changed the big guy's got a score how like how do you win the rocket and have a guy top five in nhl scoring and have a shitty power play that doesn't make any sense imagine they had a good one yeah like how many goals you have then they'll be in the playoffs well and so so that that that brings me to quote Mark Bergevin from a team that wasn't very good and he said the answer's in the room and I think with 40 45 million dollars on the power play if you count Morgan Riley

the answer has to be in the room if they don't have the answer which right now based on the results they don't then this core doesn't have it dude the last power play goal scored in that series for the leafs was by joe thornton and everyone's like get him off the first unit he's the reason it sucks stop taking pressure off the stars yeah i'm gonna blame the stars a little yeah they make take all the shit money give them shit i don't know well i'm supposed to feel bad score to quote madman that's what the money is for score score i don't care well and and the thing that bugs me is that like you criticize some of these guys we spend all year complimenting them then they they no show us in the playoffs now

it's hard to play here and yeah now it's our fault it's our fault and the rest of the toronto media circus or whatever you see the column you see the column about nathan mckinnon heading into game six and how he's a choke artist what yeah i guess but here we're mean it's mean here get out of here like you make all the money score if you don't score they're fucked that's what taking up that much of the cap does yeah two guys take up a quarter of the cap you have to score there's no other option yeah and the thing is i do feel bad for dubas a little bit because um you know i mean he he accepted this so i don't feel bad from him on that front but people are like well you know i even said it like oh secondary scoring whatever and you more though you look at the numbers you

go no secondary scoring was there people like oh i need more depth whatever no who didn't score in the series who didn't score on the play in the penalty sorry the power play all year long who was not scoring it was the best players on the team i feel bad for him this year because i don't know what i would have changed no this year i know exactly what it would change and if the same thing happens next year i got no sympathy none that's fair this all started with manny malhotra somehow final two things the tweet i referenced earlier was from batch hockey uh brendan bachelor uh the play-by-play guy from the canucks when he said for the second straight year the last four teams in the stanley cup playoffs are the lightning islanders golden knights and cory perry's team

very funny that's wild uh last thing uh mckinnon three series wins in first eight seasons mcdavid one series win in first six seasons matthew zero season wins in first five seasons crosby seven series wins two stanley cup final appearances one cup win in first four seasons rob rossi tweet rob rossi unbelievable sydney crosby appreciation tour cannot stop chugging along we need it that's cool i agree with him on that doesn't mean that he had to be the heart nominee this year because of what he did in the past he wasn't oh is that why that's what it was about he's pissed off shut up yeah he's pissed about the uh the fact that crosby wasn't nominated for the heart rob was i'm pretty sure is that what i'm doubling down i didn't know that was

the context of the tweet yeah it's well mckinnon mcdavid matthews is are they not the three players mentioned in the tweet so wait i'm sorry sydney crosby was good 2005 to 2010 means he should be nominated for the 2021 heart what i'm saying up i thought he was just making a good point about the young players in the game today and comparing them to sydney crosby's early career well it's a good point if that's the context yeah like highlighting a legend in the game today yeah because i hear that and i go oh well i mean that that just shows you how unreal sid the kid was yeah like why he was the phenom that he was look at these other very good players and how much they've struggled shows how good crosby was but you're you if you use it in the 2021 art context

that's stupid here was here was his other tweet i guess that was before that that i didn't realize was in relation if the nhl's worst division produces two heart finalists but nobody was in arenas to see them play did their value really happen well he so he would have had an argument if the nhl's worst division created two heart nominees period like or comma is it actually uh uh is it actually you know a valid award i i think you can make that argument but oh the argument that nobody was there to see them we have a that has nothing to do with it you know what sports media is sports media right now is sorely lacking and and you saw this with the what happened in colorado and people are like oh there's so many hungry young journalists who want into this industry

we need a farm system yeah that'll never happen but it'll never happen no it didn't it did happen but there were cuts everywhere everywhere across this country across the united states everywhere we need a farm system we need new blood this is brutal or it's just a bad take i mean this was the same in an ocean of them like this is a guy that like basically challenged barry trotz to a fight a few years ago too we played that audio um rob yeah do you remember that no it was like rob rossi versus the capitals and then it was like we'll see what happens next game barry and he just like leered at the camera i'm like all right that's i remember putting it on the show so i don't know it's it's you know listen i i get it yeah covers the team sydney crosby is one of

the best players of all time of course sydney crosby of course you're gonna be like man i see this guy every night he's fucking amazing he's not getting the the thing that he deserves fair fair fair but to say that mcdavid and matthews didn't deserve it because there was nobody there to see it it's just not a take it's just it's just a factual like yeah i guess and then sounds like you didn't watch him rob you could have said all rob had to do was say yo they beat up on shit teams in a shit division and they should not get the heart for it you might have an argument there what about mac mckinnon well mckinnon for sure deserved it but you could have made that argument about mcdavid and matthews because he was talking about the two two of the three totally

Hard to score in the NHL, man. His assertion that there's 40 times is that there's some anti-Penguins bias in NHL award voting. You have got to be kidding me. You have got to be. Has any team won more individual hardware than the Penguins over the last 30 years? No, he says on the last last Penguins actually haven't won that many NHL awards for it upon over the last 35 years. when i suggested an anti-pittsburgh bias might exist for awards i was told that never happened well i can bet i i can tell you this pittsburgh got plenty of the thing that everybody wants

which is the stanley cup yes so you you can i mean really i've said it before the nhl awards don't really matter who cares it's great for the players fans fine if you care i've never cared too much um i think the trophy that matters is the cup and how many of the penguins have in the last 30 years four five uh five yeah 30 years yeah five yeah so you've won their first cup i think was exactly 30 years ago yeah so you've won how many like what's the percentage five or six percent sorry like no it's more than sorry you've won in the last 30 years you've won like 30 of the cups or like as much as anybody basically yeah it's insane what the fuck it's like you you guys and detroit what else do you want this is the only time we ever talk about him

i know this is the only time we ever talk about this guy okay we talk about crosby plenty he's and he's a good writer like this is the thing that takes it away right like it's just this is a good writer i don't know uh anyway listen i'd love to know what's said about me i mean i'm sure oh you don't know i saw his streams he did well and then he gets on his youtube channel and screams he's a weirdo anyway listen we wear an animaniac shirt let's let's let's leave it at this uh we have got i like my animaniac shirt we've got uh 48 hours without hockey when we come back on monday we will have one hockey game total to talk about one game and then we'll get into the third round and it's going to be very exciting super pumped we will see you there love you and

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