The Steve Dangle Podcast - Fish Slap | April 6, 2023

Episode Date: April 6, 2023

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Adam trades in his season seats for a suite (00:00), Jesse maliciously punches Steve in the face (04:00), what do we want from Leafs vs Boston? (16:00), the Arizona Coyotes are embroiled in a lawsuit (28:00), the Calgary Flames come up big against the Winnipeg Jets (46:45), surprising seasons and scoring is through the roof (52:30), should the NHLPA complain about the refs? (1:11:00), and the Chicago Wolves are breaking up with the Carolina Hurricanes (1:14:30). Recorded: April 6, 2023 Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://help.sportsinteraction.com/hc/en-us/articles/216779528-Responsible-Gaming-Self-Limitation-Self-Exclusion Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Ontario Only. Must be 19+ or older to play. Visit this episode's sponsors: https://sportsinteraction.com/sdpn Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is Steve Dangle Podcast, powered by Sports Interaction. Wanna bet? Spank Andy. Woo! S-D-P-P. The Steve Dangle Podcast, with your hosts, Steve Dangle, Adam Wilde, and Jesse Blake. Let's go! You know, sometimes you want to tell your friends to get fucked.

Yeah? Sometimes you do. Sometimes you do. sometimes you need to other times you can't because in all honesty um uh jesse got my computer back running uh just before the show today oh good for you yeah oh yeah i just want to say that i got pretty far down the line though right jesse with the password reset and we were just a couple steps away so i was almost there with it yeah yeah it took a little bit of finessing there it is to get the password i don't have the finesse i'm all i'm all grind all the time man you're all don't

remember your password uh it wasn't that why so what's the point where you have to type in a terminal command i think it was out of adam's depth yeah yeah i don't know did you see a blue screen of any sort no it's black with a whole bunch of type like like you know ms dos sort of shit when it looks like the matrix you're fucked yeah um the other thing i want to throw out there and this is where i want you guys both to get fucked uh is this whole rumor about me having seasons tickets now i did a little influencing campaign for the wine partner for the toronto and every comment after jesse commented every comment so jesse commented this because i was at the game and jesse goes being a season seed holder looks like so much fun so happy for you

adam it has 142 likes my comment yeah your one comment on my video and then and then i'm just gonna read through and i have almost 50 comments after that i hope you enjoyed the season seats literally flexing his season suite he probably owns a network and maybe buildings in downtown toronto looks like a uh sorry um looks like a fun night uh uh those season tickets you got an upgrade for those um and then of course uh he gave up his season tickets for a night hashtag humble because it was in the box yeah you know mr season seats flexing on his bro i don't have season seats i have a season suite good old owner's box my season seats are paying off uh who got you these seasons tickets like it's just it's freaking real you should see my dms right now

i i jesse i think our friend adam is embarrassed and then somebody else said maybe the wine company can reset your password he okay that's a nice crossover it's a very good church second of all i think i think adam's embarrassed embarrassed about what but well because i feel like he's a little insecure that the rumor we started about him having seasoned seats makes him seem a little too highfalutin you know what i mean okay a little too highfalutin and he didn't want to seem you know uh too uh uptight he didn't want to seem too better than or highfalutin while he was at an influencing campaign for a wine called menage a trois in a box at a leafs game yeah no it's i know man it's just they they were really nice you should really worry about pinky seeming too

hoity-toity in your box in your suite with a bunch of good words good well i i went with highfalutin hoity-toity just want to say i met i met a few people there that were like actual tiktok influencers people with real following oh peers yeah well you were there too so yeah but i i was like i'm standing next to people with like half a million followers it's always good when you get to talk to people in your tax bracket you know you know what i mean you know what i mean you know what i mean this guy knows you know what i mean he gets it uh also at sdpn uh sdpn's youtube channel you can see our master's golf video oh yeah where steve and jesse and i went to party putt in downtown toronto with drew and with nick in the background and justin fisher

joined us too and basically the idea for this was to kind of get fired up for the masters and uh jesse got fired up jesse can actually golf but we went to party putt and uh party nothing to do with golfing nothing absolutely nothing that that did not help the the the putting in there is extreme like i don't know you know usually at like a mini putt course you could probably if you focus you could do par this place it's like good luck it's never gonna happen i mean every every single thing is a different theme it's like back to the future and game of thrones in toronto toronto the city it's just a good place to hang out with your pals yeah yeah there's a bar there's mini putt invite all your friends who are way too competitive

and watch them ruin their night when they finish second and then well so here's the thing is that we believe in winner take all meaning if you're if you come second place you lose if you come third place you lose right uh and so one of us won and got to smash the other two in the face with fish pies yeah smash the other two i don't know if two of us got smashed what do you mean i think adam got plepped i think you got plepped okay and i got absolutely fucking train wrecked if you go back you say that why why do i say that because like i was washing my face in the shower a couple days later i'm like why is my cheek sore oh right because jesse basically punched me let's watch it back do you want to watch it let's watch it why did you do this to

him and not i'm surprised to get out of here no start with adam start with adam's little love tap his little pleb do you want the audio too yeah why not all right all right all right here we go oh this is this no no adam's already smashed uh there there you go here we go here we go all right i wonder which one adam's picking i'm picking hot sauce oh yeah you pick the one with like jalapeno in it yeah thank you because i had to eat the fish afterwards look at that that's a pleb can i ask can we pause this for a second sure all right so so first off if you ever have the choice again because it was like i had tomato i had water fish or some sort of like spring water and then and then and then uh some sort of hot sauce which is what i took i forgot that the hot

i was going based on taste because we had to get it in the face and then eat it afterwards and so i was like okay well i'll eat the hot sauce one because at least i'll taste the hot sauce and not the fish right but then i realized that i was going to get hot sauce in my eyeballs really stupid thinking and so for the rest of the video i can't see anything it fucking sucked like i was i didn't see steve's get hit in the face i'm like wow that all sounds terrible so what happens think think it through at all well i mean it was sort of you put on the spot right it's like you lose the round but and then and then you're sort of like well do you want spring water fish like do you want wet warm water fish or do you want hot sauce fish but you hear me in the video say oh i

wonder which one's adam's gonna because you obviously don't pick the one with fucking hot peppers in it well i didn't want you to have to take that i felt like given your history with peppers that wouldn't be fair you're you're a gem yeah well and i wish i could smooch you but we're on camera i also the fish was not not tasty no not tasty it was quite smelly here we'll get to the smell yeah so we saw adam's little we saw jesse wind up and then like your elbow you just should have made those putts yeah and then a little love tap and you got it right in your hair no yeah my fucking curly hair and you had to eat a sardine also i didn't make these rules so like don't blame me for

Look, I have sardine on my chin. Producer Drew, who's in the room right now, he made these rolls and these pies. This was his idea. Producer Nick was very upset that we were making such a big deal about the fish. He's like, this is the smell of my people. And I was like, hey man, I said I hate the smell.

I didn't say I hate Portugal. Steve, do you want your smash? Yeah, I want Steve's smash. Here we go. All the Leafs haters. What are you talking about? Listen to the sound. Put this on Oilers Reddit. They'll love it.

and your YouTube recommendations. I just threw the shirt in the dumpster, by the way. Me too. I can't see. Don't break my nose. Are you ready? Yeah. You should have made those putts.

Oh! I've never seen it on video. Oh my God, you hit him hard. I can't see either. I straight up said right beforehand, I'm like, please do not break my nose. Don't re-break my nose. And this dude with sewer grate hands.

Like, look at this. Are you ready? Yeah. Should have made those putts. Oh! Wham! Whammy! Like, Jesse, look at him.

Yeah, that's right. You should be embarrassed. I didn't realize I hit you that hard. So... Honest to God, I didn't realize. Yeah? Yeah. Did you realize after you had hit me that hard?

Yes. I think I apologize Jesse's in trouble by the way I Jesse See what I said about Sometimes you have to say Fuck your friends

This is why I started The show like that Oh yeah It's an aggressive start I helped you this morning I know But also Sometimes you have to say

Fuck your friends But also You help me I had a rough morning And Jesse turned it around With one click of the button Fixing that computer I think it's worse

That Jesse helps Because you're like Oh maybe he'll help And then he slaps you In the face Well because he fucks you up And then he helps you And you're like

God I'm in trouble Why am I in trouble Yeah So you're in trouble. I called Jesse last night, and his girlfriend happened to be there. And she's like, by the way, I didn't like that Jesse hit you so hard with the pie. The pie, by the way. What is it?

It's like cream cheese. It was whipped cream, sardines, and spring water. It was yours. And pie crust. Okay. Yeah, my girlfriend, she watched the video back, and she was like, you hit Steve really hard. Say sorry to him. Everyone in attendance was like

His nose was broken It wasn't though Maybe Oh here we go Defend yourself Stop being a big baby You got a pie in the face make your putts next time You also

Choked So hard Yeah you should have won We haven't even talked about What got you to this point And the thing that got you there was you 15 putting on the last hole 15 it was six i think you all you had to do was five putt i know five putt to tie me at least four putt to win and it's mini golf it was the hole is right

there it got like stuck and you wedged the ball in a corner i know as soon as i did that i was like when i saw okay you went first and you did not do well no final shot was i shit the bed you shit to bed adam wasn't very good either and i'm like oh my god i actually have a shot to win this and i completely choked completely choked it's in your dna leafs man it's hey hey like as opposed hey hey man so you're up for one so so okay here's the worst part of this if you're watching this video and you're like oh he's got it in his hair he's got it on his clothes think about after this was taken first of all as we're doing this and we're covered in all this disgusting crap and fish look at the recoil on the fucking wall behind you oh yeah there's none behind adam

there's none behind it this guy splattered my brains all over look at this here go back go back go back go back go back like a second yeah watch it hit the wall wham wham that's a car accident, except the car is a fishy. Don't break my nose. Look at this. Should have made those putts. He's taunting me as he does it. Wham! Just obliterates me.

So this is on a street in Toronto. Duncan Street. Yeah, Duncan. Nobody is looking. Well, no, because no one in Toronto gives a fuck. Yeah. So at the time, but then a little bit of time passes. The seconds turned into minutes and you're just covered in all

this shit. All this fish smelling shit we didn't think it through no we didn't think it through at all you took a quick little uber home i think and adam took a like you washed yourself off yeah i had a i had a nearly two hour drive home after that so i luckily had some spare clothes for you to live out in the boon maybe if you won the ajax is not the boonies maybe if you just made a five putt And it's a five putt to win A five putt to win Like that's the best part

The whole is from like me to you Okay you five putted it too Or four putted it No I five putted and then you had to You had to four putt to win And you couldn't even do that I just fucked up So I had to

Like I had to like take off My shoes in the car I think I want to say I had a spare pair of shoes Did you get sardines in your shoes? Yeah, but Jesse, it's on the wall behind me. Of course it was on my shoes. That's why I didn't get any sardine in my shoe. So I just took off my shirt.

So I'm like shirtless. Like it's a cold day in Toronto. Everyone's just like, yeah, this is normal. Me too, actually. I was there standing there shirtless in a bathing suit. So I'm like wiping it off myself as best I can. I'm trying to take off. I have like hockey equipment that I'm like, well, I got to wash this when I get home.

I can't smell like fish next time I play hockey. And what was the? Oh, yeah. So I throw my shirt in the dumpster and this is the part that you guys missed and I kept forgetting to tell you. So once I was finally sufficiently not covered in fish smelling garbage anymore, we go back into the bar.

They allowed us back in surprisingly because your stuff was in there and I went to push, uh, I went to put my head under the sink to get it all out of my hair and I did and I'm scrubbing, scrubbing, scrubbing and I go to pick my head back up, smacked it,

so fucking hard on the hand dryer. Oh, no. Like, there was a bruise for like a week. Oh, that's great. Oh, my God. I had a goose egg

and I was just like, oh, my God. Didn't you blow fish out of your nose when you got home, too? Oh, yeah. I had a shower when I got home

and I blew a pink chunk of fish out of my nose. Now, Drew's texting me from behind the cameras. What about Jesse stealing Steve's glasses? What's that? Oh, yeah.

And you drove off with my way home. I was helping you because I was holding your glasses after I pied you in the face. And then I drove like, I don't know, 10 minutes away and I had to come swing all the way back and

give you your glasses. Oh, was that tough? Was that a burden? It wasn't. I felt bad. Thank you for that. So the moral of the story is here is fuck your friends, but check that out because it is a The moral of the story is don't suck at mini golf and you won't have to get a pie

in the face. You gotta watch the whole video because I really do fucking choke. You were right ahead like the whole way. Yeah, it was yours. he won the first hole what was the guy that blew it at the british open and he like john vandevelde or something drew you would know that wasn't that john johan veldevelde that's definitely not anybody but i don't know yeah john vandevelde yeah it was john vandevelde he blew it he blew the masters thing and he got in or not the master he blew the british open he had to get in the water uh like take his shoes and his socks off you know where it's like bricked in their

water features and stuff like it happened in the 90s what is his name john vandevelde vandevelde van de veldt van de veldt yeah yeah he's uh he's from france anyway it's one of the it's 1999 you should check it out it's one of the worst meltdowns in uh in british history in sports history how many times did that run on sports center it ran on the top 10 for 40 fucking years afterwards along with merrick malik let me do it uh hey uh okay so obviously if you're listening to this chances are the leafs are soon to be playing the bruins or maybe you're listening tomorrow and it's just after they've played the bruins just a quick question on the leafs i got two of them okay and it's for everybody on the panel let us know how it went if you're yeah yeah

tell it tell us in the compliment section if you're watching it next week let us know how the next week in the world compliments give us news compliment the leafs in the comment section um uh if there's one thing that you need to know tonight that you need answered tonight when the leafs take on the bruins when we're when you're watching sportsnet central or tsn sports center to be even to both tomorrow morning and you're watching the highlights or watching Steve's LFR, what do you want to be saying about tonight's game? Because it does seem like the Leafs do have some stuff to play for. The Bruins have nothing to play for.

No, the Bruins got a lot to play for. They're going for the modern-day record and wins in a season. Well, there you go. I think it matters to them. I think it does. I think you're absolutely right. You get that close, you might as well. Yeah.

So what do you need to see? I need to see – I know Jesse would like to see guys rested, But since that's not happening, I want to see an extremely competitive game, ideally where the Leafs win. I mean, I want them to win every time. But win or lose, it needs to be competitive. They can't get blown out. They can't look like far and away the worst team. This is, I want to say, their first night ever with Ryan O'Reilly as the third line center.

So I don't want to make excuses. it's almost like that seems like a lot to ask like on account of he they haven't had this setup there's five fucking games left like you have no choice you you have to gel right away you have to be competitive one of the things i didn't mention yesterday when we were talking about the uh how interchangeable all the lines are i forgot that i think achari and o'reilly played on the same line in st louis oh yeah like i completely forgot about that so that's that's a little more built in and uh i'm uh curious to see who starts i at the time i don't know who's starting looks like well uh can start can't well they sam's not a can start it doesn't look like murray's gonna be

back that's what no murray i assume wouldn't be back like do you do you rest sammy do you i was getting a bunch of tweets from people there was like research done about like why you shouldn't play your starting goalie against, like, a team you're going to play. But, like, they're also not going to play the Bruins round one. Yeah. And you can't. Yeah, there's no guarantee. You can't plan for round two.

No. We haven't seen that since 04. Yeah. There's no planning. Slow down. Yeah, what? Slow down just a little bit. Yeah, I hope to see you there.

But until then, like, fuck the lightning, right? And it's one of those, it's like, I will cross that bridge when it comes down to it. So the next thing I want to ask you then, Jesse, actually, do you want to answer that question? What do you want to see? It would be nice if the Toronto Maple Leafs played spoiler. It'd be cool to see them go out tonight and beat the Boston Bruins and kind of poo-poo their coronation at the end of the year. So the Boston Bruins, it's 62 wins is the record, right?

It's difficult to be as high in the standings as the Leafs are and play spoiler. This is a really rare scenario. Yeah, usually a spoiler is reserved for the San Jose Sharks and Anaheim Ducks of the world. Sorry. The Chicago Blackhawks Sorry Blackhawks for real

So the Boston Bruins got 1, 2 3, 4 5 games left The modern day record Of wins is 62

Yeah So Where are they at? They got 60 Oh man I mean They're gonna get it They gotta get 3 wins

Of their last 5 games The Leafs can If they go out tonight And they beat the Bruins They can make them sweat a little They can make them sweat a little As of These fucking Boston Bruins

pained us for the last 400 years of hockey yep it'd be nice you know what you're absolutely right just just fuck them up a little bit yeah then then there's a low pressure that is three or four yeah i wonder that's a good point i wonder if teams almost hate regular season like team achievements like like okay you score 60 goals right like that was obviously important to the leafs and important to the oilers i imagine it's important to the bruins because pasta is right there as well but team stuff like there were eight teams eliminated in the first round in 2019 i mean we know the leafs were one of them because we're leaf fans who's the other one you remember tampa they won the president's trophy and got fucking swept they fucked it up columbus yeah

yeah so um i don't know how badly the bruins care about this regular season thing they might care a whole hell of a lot i mean it's an all-time record but if you don't win the cup i mean that's always going to be mentioned alongside the record it's like brady's perfect season yeah yeah exactly he didn't get it yeah correct me if i'm wrong but the 62 win red wings didn't win the cup no they lost in the conference finals to who drew colorado avalanche cross check uh the team award is the championship because north american sports has set it up to where the regular season champion doesn't really mean a heck of a lot like it's a cool accomplishment there's a trophy for it and everything we acknowledge it but you want to win the championship but it there's a little feather

in your cap when you get these things but it doesn't mean a heck of a lot to these players because they know deep down like hey if we don't win the championship it doesn't mean shit also i want to throw this out i want to throw this out there if the leafs win tonight yeah because they have a game in hand on tampa they will at worst tie them at the end of the season and i don't know what their head-to-head record is because i think that's the next tie break but regulation wins is it regulation wins yeah okay well i don't know what it would be then but at very least this almost guarantees them almost guarantees them uh home ice advantage in that first round and something drew brought up earlier he's like why haven't you brought this up yet i was like that's

a good point here before you bring that up okay i just give a little oh sorry go because i feel like you're about to make a good point about to be a child okay to prove that the regular season doesn't mean anything in the grand scheme of things discord here's your mission or twitter or whatever draw the president's trophy from memory i know what it looks like i think i know what it looks like but i think i might be picturing a different i know what it looks like from the nhl games because i like going to the awards screen and then yeah all the awards that guy won the lady bing even though it doesn't really mean anything in the nhl video games youth how do you determine i still like that i still like that um no seriously i don't know toronto's got

But Toronto has something else to worry about other than Boston and Tampa, according to producer Drew. He's like, you guys thinking that you don't need to win any more games. I'm like, what do you mean? Like lock up home ice against Tampa? I'm like, I guess that, you know, I said, that's pretty important. Yeah. And he's like, no, you need to be thinking more further than that. I was like, okay.

Galaxy brain Drew over here. He's like, you need to be thinking about the Eastern Conference Final. I was like, what? And he's like, what happens if the New York Rangers make it to the Eastern Conference Final? What happens if the New Jersey Devils make it to the Eastern Conference Final? Or the Carolina Hurricanes, who could easily do it. 109, 106, and 103. Don't you want to lock down home ice advantage throughout the playoffs?

So, producer Drew, that is the sort of thing that we simply have not thought of in a generation. Why would we need to? Literally in a generation. It's been 19 years. Why would we worry about that? Yeah. No, it's a great point. But, like, that was a consideration for you last year, I guess.

Because you're like, well, there's Colorado and there's Edmonton. And I think Colorado had home ice, right? Yeah. Drew seems pretty set that the Rangers are going to make it, too. That's who he believes. They're a good team, man. I think we're getting a little ahead of ourselves. I agree.

But I just thought the difference between the way a guy who's seen his team win the championship acts versus us. It's pretty significant. I think there's a bit of a difference, you know, with Leaf's success and Colorado Avalanche's. That's what I'm saying. They're identical. That just tells you where the bar is, though, doesn't it? Oh, yeah. Our bar is on the floor.

It is. It's where it should be. Yeah. Anyway. I mean do a little bunny hop over it please Leafs win four games please give me a second round please my I was talking to my father-in-law about that and again like he's a soccer fan first Liverpool and his son is Chelsea and they go head to head and like every year their teams don't win a championship it's a catastrophe and I'm like win a round quarter of the way yeah let's

going yeah it'd be nice if the bar was that what oh win a championship yeah even even like the raptors got to that point when when they kept losing in the eastern conference quarters or finals or semis to lebron a year after year after year it was it was the raptors were really good and like we expected them to get to that matchup versus lebron wherever whether he was in cleveland or miami or wherever he wanted to be to destroy our hearts like the raptors got to the point where we expected them to win two rounds maybe win a round then face lebron and then it wasn't enough and they had to make another decision to push through that and it'll be fun if the leafs ever reach that point where it's consistent hey they're in the eastern conference finals they're in these

conference semifinals and like now we need to push the stanley cup fun what i love about the raptors championship run in retrospect is like it's like man if only we could not play lebron in the playoffs have a have a better player to pair up with kyle lowry and somehow oh we'd have to play kevin durant and clay uh clay thompson and steph curry if one of those guys could get go down with a season injury that'd be super cool and like that's all the things that went right for them to win no and that's why it doesn't count you know it's funny it's funny what can happen right don't forget the miracle shot along the way what you were there for yeah yeah don't forget a bounce bounce bounce and then in

the rim and then and joel m beats tears and then being down to nothing to milk the best player in the world right now and yannis yeah how did they come back in that series unreal drake i was there dude i was up in the nosebleeds and i'm looking at this little spec running around the court and i'm just like he's on the court right now yeah how hasn't he been kicked out of this game he did it not the players he did it he did it i'm convinced he's why yannis fouled out i don't know if drake had anything to do with Siakam missing those two free throws to force overtime, but you know, we were all there

and just like, fuck. But we all knew we were essentially at an elimination game. Yeah, right. You get on 3-0, it's over. Yeah. So, like, that really drove it home. When he missed those two shots, we were like, oh, fuck, and they end up winning the thing. Adam, did you get

your playoff tickets yet? Did they come in? For the Leafs? Did they come in? You guys are going to hate it. I'm going to a game this Saturday with Jesse, just so you know. Yeah, he invited me to his seats. Shut up. No, I didn't. You did.

We were going to a game on Saturday. Yeah, because he invited me to the seats. I didn't invite him to the seats. Adam, how much did you pay for the tickets? We were offered the seats. How much did you pay for the tickets? We were offered the seats, Jesse. How much?

We were offered the seats, Jesse. I didn't pay for the seats. We were offered the seats. Zero dollars. Big old smack of zero. I've been to two games this season, and I'm not going to lie. I don't even remember what they were. I'm going to two games this week.

You went to Colorado. Colorado for sure. Two games this week Are you fucked? And I didn't go to the Colorado one with you guys Well I went No no the Menage No the game

I went to the game last week I went to the game last week So it's two games in two weeks Yeah It was last Saturday? I went on the last Wednesday It was last Wednesday So it wouldn't be two and seven

And they lost I know you should beat me up I told you man During the pandemic I said if I ever get the chance To go to a Leafs game again I'm never turning it down And in fact I broke my own code

By not going to the Avs game With you guys yeah um too bad you know like that would have been that was your only opportunity i know what did you never come around to win that game i don't even know the rangers when marner scored that overtime winner sorry because i got you the jersey yes yeah there it is i went with mike schmidt um okay so let me ask you this would you if you definitely okay let's say you you bought a pre-construction home or a pre-construction condo okay what does that mean so pre-construction home pre-construction condo like as in they have to hole in the ground it's well yeah it's not even

a hole in the ground it's pre-construction they haven't dug the hole oh so it's pre-built but you're buying it on spec and the company says it's going to be it's going to look like this so let's say you let's say you did this i'm not even going to ask you if you would or not because there's who cares there's a condo at the top of my street that's been building for like seven years i know somebody that bought a pre-construction what's the rush and they're and they bought it before 2009 and that crash and then the company went under and they lost their deposit i hear about that all the time that can happen yeah yeah they can totally have if they just can't finish it then you're just fucked yeah there was a hole behind my condo or condo my

apartment in uh in um calgary that was dug right before the crash and calgary got hit pretty hard and it was just a hole in the ground and it and so whenever i drove into the garage you just drive by this gigantic hole that was fenced off and part of our building had the face of the building was falling into the hole so they had to fix the whole side of the building because of because the ground was sinking around it nobody filled in the fucking hole and that's toronto so that hole is four million dollars calgary oh calgary so it was one million dollars calgary so it's just a big hole yeah they made it a dinosaur bone yeah made of dinosaur bones and oil so adam we're buying a pre-construction so you're right you bought you bought one okay we already did yeah okay but

jesse and steve who are roommates and and also business partners you guys are living together okay life partners and you guys want to move into this pre-construction but you you can't do it yet obviously yeah it's not so so knowing that you're going to move into this pre-construction you stop paying your taxes and your rent at your current place so legal so they don't like that so they kick you out right okay understandable on account of illegal so then you move to so let's say you got a two-bedroom place then you find a place that's a bachelor apartment okay you move to the bachelor apartment together because you're like i'll only be here until the new place is built and it's going to be huge and amazing and it's inconvenient because you're moving into an

apartment where they're filming a popular reality show sure i don't know why you went there bachelor no it's bachelor oh that was good wait what like the bachelor there you go okay it's that's very good so you move to a bachelor apartment together and then you find out and then you find out that your pre-construction may not even get built what how do you feel about it oh man that's so precarious it's a bit of a spot you're in right You're in such a pickle. Now, I don't care how many coyotes, supporters, media, ownership tell me that things are going well in Tempe and Phoenix.

They're not. So if you're catching up from last episode, and a lot of this stuff is above my head, I am not a real estate legal expert in the state of Arizona, but the city council for Phoenix is suing Tempe. they're saying and they're suing the company that is helping the coyotes build their next arena there's going to be an entertainment district there's going to be a casino license sports gambling license the whole thing and there was supposed to be multi-residential units going in now phoenix city council doesn't want that going in because of something to do with the airport

and i don't know if it's going to be noise complaints or space or jobs or whatever it is whatever it is, they don't want it going in. So they're suing Tempe. Yesterday, we got a counter-sue argument. So the Arizona Coyotes have filed a $2.3 billion claim against the city of Phoenix over the arena. The Coyotes and the firm hired to help build it, which is a new arena project near Sky Harbor International Airport, filed a $2.3 billion notice of claim against the city of Phoenix Wednesday for alleged breach of contract. The claim, a precursor to a lawsuit, was filed along with the Bluebird Development Corporation and it's seeking damages from Phoenix for their legal filing by the city March 27th, which is the last time we talked about this.

Phoenix asked in its legal filing to rescind Tempe's recent zoning and land use changes, along with uh prohibiting future residential considerations in an faa uh incompatible residential development area because obviously noise and all the other things that you know why you shouldn't have airplanes and houses nearby yeah i see somebody's been reading stpn.ca where you can find this story on the coyotes filing a 2.3 billion dollar claim yeah there it is shameless plug wow i guess that's where this story exists here's what i like though I want to read this to you because I don't fully get it, but it does read very Arizona. The Arizona Coyotes and its development arm, Bluebird Development, have had enough of Phoenix's bullying bureaucrats.

Whoa. Is Maricopa County mentioned? Well, hold on. Let's get to it. As a Canadian who has to consume American television, I have heard Maricopa County so many times. And now the city of Phoenix is facing a $2.3 billion claim after it broke its word and decided to undermine a plan to convert a hazardous unlined Tempe-owned landfill into a new sports and entertainment district next to Tempe Town Lake. On March 27th, Sky Harbor unexpectedly filed a complaint against the city of Tempe claiming the Tempe International District Plan could not include previously approved multifamily houses because of noise issues. oddly both cities have agreed for decades that multi-family housing was permitted in the airport

flight paths as long as the apartments were designed to minimize noise indeed tempe's decision to move forward was based in part on assurances by from sky harbor not to interfere on november 29th sky harbor's chad mckowski mavowski i don't know that feels like a made-up name told city tempe city council a positive and productive relationship between tempe sky harbor and the city of phoenix has been and continues to be incredibly important to us uh blah blah blah blah and basically um the claim goes on to say that phoenix appears motivated by spite and ill will for the purpose of stonewalling development of the tempe entertainment district i guess perhaps what they're suggesting is that tempe would be a more fun place to be than maybe the

city of phoenix which is next door and maybe they don't want this going in and they don't want people living nearby which would support it and so here's my question to jesse and steve who now live in a bachelor apartment when they used to live in a in a two-bedroom condo hearing all this and waiting for your house to be built how are you feeling right now can i be totally honest sure when i go to bed at night i feel things i feel oh this is so nice that i'm lying in my bed and i think about the next day and sometimes i'll have a stressed emotion about the next day or a happy emotion about the next day and when i wake up i think of all the new possibilities i

think of what i'm going to do first and i think about my morning routine and i and i think about the smell of coffee and how that makes me feel doesn't the smell of coffee make you it's a nice morning smell yeah i like that and some fresh like fresh wind in the summer you open the blinds yeah and it's sunny oh what do you feel oh joy you open the blinds and it's rainy how do you feel i still feel a little bit of joy yeah i like rain i like a little rain yeah a little a little rain but but several days of gray in a row i feel a little bit of dread you hit traffic how do you feel oh frustrated yeah you have a clear road ahead of you how do you feel oh fantastic open right yeah uh you know your food's a little cold how do you feel a little disappointed honestly

it's hot and delicious how do you feel i feel like life is perfect and i could do this forever adam you read excerpts of that story i felt nothing i do not fucking care i am so sick of talking about the arizona fuck-offing coyotes and their and their court battles i'm like i would i would love it if the main story about the coyotes is clayton keller that's a good player it is a good player but he's already there um so that's fine he's already there and he's under contract if they get conor bedard what an actual genuine disaster for hockey um or maybe it saves it i don't know all i know is until the team has these things solved and are worth talking about

but don't you think it's interesting no that they fucked up their their relationship with gila river and had to move and are now in a an arena that they're saying we're in here max three years we are a year into those three years not a single shovel has been put to earth as far as i know and even if it has how long before this this drags its ass through the courts because they're not going to be able to finish these buildings and use them and and then here's the thing what if the entire plan the arena gets built but then the entire plan gets fucked up there's no entertainment district even though there will be there's no multi multi-residential you know buildings nearby which is the whole point to support the entertainment district even if the

entertainment district gets built around the arena you need people to go i feel nothing you're you're telling me things that i know are interesting adam i know they're interesting yeah yeah i don't they're not registering sadness they're not registering happiness they're not registering interest it doesn't spark joy it doesn't spark joy it doesn't spark anything though like it doesn't i'm not feeling anything positively or negatively i do not fucking care about this team but here's where it's gonna matter here's where it is gonna matter hockey related revenue i the i know you're bored by it but the reality is the pa and the owners might actually agree on something here which is the coyotes are a drag on both the owner's profit

they're dragging the owner's profit and they're a drag on what teams are able to spend on players which the pa gets pissed off about if you include the coyotes in the 32 team revenue sharing plan right now they are taking more than their fair share because of their own fuck-ups did you hear that yeah that was that was a a heartbeat you you made me feel something this is going to be if this continues this is a big problem how long do they want to stay in arena that really an ahl team wouldn't even take it's a radio shack it's a radio shack like by nhl standards it's it's super cool that the atmosphere is good there no it's not hold on hold on hold on i do not care about here's fucking tiny but listen to me here listen to me here for those that always

want to go positive on this let me say this to you it's great that it's great now i'm asking you what it's going to be like in november of year four i'm not asking in march of year five i don't care at mullet arena i don't fucking care what it looks like i know you don't care but what but because there's always people ragging on us like how come you guys are always so negative about it i don't know i'm trying to look for the positive here and i'm not a residential lawyer i don't know anything about uh about that kind of real estate development but i can read some articles and it doesn't look good guys this is not a good look well here anyone who says that i'll meet you in the middle i don't feel anything the the nhl has 31 teams jesse what about you i i you read a lot

of stuff and i'm not really sure i know what it means like i don't know city of phoenix is suing them they're suing back yes but i don't know if that means that they won't get an arena that they'll have to stick in in asu for however long i'm not sure like maybe this is something that just finds its way to the back burner eventually it will because it's a back burner team yeah well no i mean in terms of like it doesn't back burner franchise anything there's also there's like a vote going on with the city like i know because it's not fully support it's not done yet yeah like the people who where they're trying to build the new arena i know like the people the residents there get a chance to like vote on the issue i don't know like if that's gonna help or help

this situation you know from what i've read it will likely pass because it's a fucking landfill yeah right yeah so like i don't know if that vote happens and then all of a sudden they're building and that's fine so i'm just i just feel like i'm not really sure where they're gonna go for me i'm just kind of play the waiting game wait and see when i worked at cbc i had to cut highlights for all different sports and all different stories so i would do all the hockey games and i would do all the baseball games and i would do all the soccer games one time i did volleyball that's cool honest to god volleyball and there was one night where there was a city council meeting in i think it was glendale and i had to cut clips from that that was over a decade ago i do not fucking care

will there be a team on the ics or no yes okay great and they're not moving that's all i give a shit take the moving coyotes take the coyotes moving off the table they're not moving they're not moving that's that is not gonna happen so if they're not moving then it's mute yeah but we made peace with that so long ago yeah like they are going to keep this team alive whether they like it or not so here's what we got i want to give you the history uh from the articles at sdpn.ca franchise uh the franchise shared america west arena with the phoenix suns after relocating from winnipeg in 96 they moved to glendale in 2003 at gila river uh former owner jerry moyes took the coyotes into bankruptcy in 09 and canadian blackberry billionaire jimbo silly

put in a bid to purchase the team with the intention of moving them to Hamilton. The NHL, which wanted to keep the team in Arizona, put in a counter bid, and a Phoenix judge ruled that the team could not be sold to Jim Basile to circumvent the NHL's relocation rule. So basically, the NHL bid against itself.

Bid against a guy with actual money. If you lived through that, Jim Basile went through that the complete wrong way you should do it. Sure. He made a public show of the NHL and was like, I'm moving this team to Hamilton, and was there, and was like, this team's coming there. and you don't show up people where you're trying

to do business with. Right. The NHL. Especially in Hungary. He was an asshole in that situation. Yes. And he was also an asshole

about the Penguins too because he thought he had them too. The NHL ran the Coyotes for four seasons and the financial constraints associated with that took a toll

leading to a seven-year playoff drought. New ownership group brought in in 2013 with new hope but turmoil surfaced again in 2015 when the city of Glendale

backed out of a long-term lease which was a multi-million dollar agreement. The Coyotes then leased Gila River Arena on an annual basis until glendale announced it was terminating the deal last year or two years ago no it was last year um anyway so the the mullet with capacity of 5 000 is the smallest home in the nhl now the

coyotes have a fight on their hands to find a permanent home and that is directly from the associated press guys i so i'm just i want you to be aware that this is like this is the equivalent of you guys leaving your house because you didn't pay the rent before your new house is done and having to move into a bachelor apartment and then the developer says i don't know if we can even build this so okay let's pretend everything goes great yeah when's this going when's this building going to be operational well i mean it takes four minimum 24 months to put one of those together like i think didn't the raiders get theirs done in 24 months but they had like like in vegas but they had a good plan and vegas city council's like yeah whatever you want to do spend money

great everything's different in vegas right how many years from now three i would say minimum Let's say it's the minimum. Let's say it's three. The Coyotes have been in Arizona for 25 years now. By the time they get this building, it's 28. They will have been a net negative for 28 years. Let's pretend from the moment they move into that building, they're a positive, which is unlikely.

But they're a positive from the moment. Like Vegas. Yes. Like the Golden Knights were. So what's three years from now? 2026? Yeah. what's 28 years from 2026 that would be 456 yeah 2056 is the year the coyotes break even as a

franchise in terms of relevance and just contributing positivity how old are we going to be in 2056 fucking old man that's why i don't fucking care about this fucking team die or don't court battles you sound like scrooge he's gonna die he better do it so last night on the second night of a back-to-back jacob markstrom stood on his head great who cares what do you mean you know what i care you know because the flames play in a building that's old and shitty and nhl quality at minimum bare fucking minimum and they're not going to build a new one and then play in like a bus station for three or four years and tell me it's fucking awesome that they're playing in a bus station oh we can have so many cool events around the flames playing

at a fucking bus station and then they move into the new one and we pretend like the bus station never happened well i just made you care about it if you didn't care you know what do we get thank you do we get to talk about flames jets no fuck the flames no i'm kidding of course what do you want to talk about with them why do you want to get to this so bad because because they pulled what they tied the the jets for the last playoff spot and now we actually have a battle with three games left in the year it's going to be uh the the jets the jets can take care of business like they still hold their destiny the loss wasn't um crippling for them but the flames after the horrendous showing in in versus chicago you know it was three games

and four nights for the flames they show up to the most important one they beat the jets because their season was on the line you lose that game and for the jets you have an opportunity there to just cement a playoff spot yes you win that game it's not you don't get the x next to your name but you pretty much get that x next to your name and it was a dud because markstrom became the goalie that everybody was like where did that goalie go he's done that a bunch of times over the last month month and a half the goal support has not been there at all yep and last night they got it out of uh just the weirdest characters you know the doer scored his seventh goal of the year i believe on um like uh how many one-handed goals did cadre score um now i gotta look yeah uh they

that was the game winner um but yeah marshall shows up and it's like okay is he back is he doing his thing yeah i saw the zadorov goal that was cool yeah by the way he's at 11 yeah Nikita's adorable. The Avs fans are like, why? Drew? He's shaking his head. You know what's wild? Kopp's not good enough.

He's shaking his head. And the win was, I think, technically a comeback win because Winnipeg opened the scoring. Yes, it is. And you're on the road in that building down 1-0 early. And to muster up the strength through their depth scoring, really, is what happened. The Stars didn't really show up for Calgary, which has been the story all year. And they get that very important win. Well, this is a Sutter win.

it's the non-stars that win or the non-stars that score and he he just he is a happy man he goes home and he's like fucking right screw the stars i hate them there was uh i i also want to say this uh um i feel a lot more for this game than i do for the entire coyote situation and i do appreciate you re-engaging us in hockey jesse because it's uh i i we have to talk about the coyotes thing it has to come up yes a hundred percent but i much prefer talking about what are we talking about here jesse we're talking about a a game playoff race yeah playoff race every game is game seven for them i think that's who i think setter was saying that or rick bone is favorite head coach was describing that but whichever bad coach you're talking to yeah i don't mean i don't

want to talk about the coyotes ever again like but like i want to talk about games yeah oh this guy's suing i don't i do not care i cannot force myself there isn't a drug you could give me that could get me to care there was an instance that uh they were writing about in the athletic that happened uh directly before a goal where rick bonus he started uh shyfully in the d zone with about like seven seconds left on the pk so bonus bonus tries to like he's playing the game here He's like, okay, we're going to kill this off, and we're going to have our offensive forwards out there. And they don't win the draw. A couple seconds later, it's in the back of the net.

And it's not to say that, like, hey, Rick Bonas cost them in this situation. Mark Shively can't be out there playing a D-zone draw. But that taking those chances in these games, maybe play it a little safer. but like even if you win that face-off and you get possession of the puck there's no guarantee you're going to be able to get that line change and get that personnel over the boards you want to know how spicy the western playoff picture is by the way so let's say winnipeg loses all the remaining games calgary in that instance would still not control their own destiny if nashville wins their games in hand they pass calgary oh that's good isn't that wild stuff

isn't that what not not to mention not only would nashville uh um uh pass calgary they already despite the fact that they're three points behind calgary have more wins nashville has 39 calgary only has 37 they've lost 15 games in overtime or the shootout it's amazing there's every stat you look at for calgary says they're just unlucky and you watch their games and you're like but no but no no you're lying i they're easily the most confusing team in the league right now what about the we're trying really hard despite the fact that we hate our coach meter stat i think that that is a big deal yep i think that's a big deal when you hate your boss work becomes really hard and especially work at a high level like

that is that's the thing to me it's so it's such an easy choice they have so much talent on that team just make a change you don't think it's a little more difficult to get up for a game when you don't want to go play for the guy who's behind the bench yeah imagine because you start to hate it's not just that you you don't like them or their style you start to hate little things about them like you hate the way they eat or the way their breath smells or the way they sent their sentence structure you start to hate you know like you start to pick them apart it's like a human thing that people do right it's sort of like you know and you just kind of like it's not fair to the person that you don't like but you're like i gotta get out of here because i'm becoming toxic

yeah but they need that second wild card because they could easily like they could or no sorry the top wild card because they could easily beat the abs right so drew's just laughing yeah he's like By the way, I want to shout a couple names out. First off, Ryan Nugent Hopkins. 100 points. Man, 12 years after he was drafted. Pretty cool. First overall.

Isn't that unreal? Now, here's my question to you. Maybe don't give up on guys. Wait. Sorry. Real quick stat. Stop it. I don't know.

Don't give up on guys. Taylor Hall. Who gave up on Ryan Nugent Hopkins? No one gave up on Ryan Nugent Hopkins. Edmonton was eight seconds away from trading Mr. Nuge just as they traded Taylor Hall. so it's funny there was a stat longest nhl career before they hit 100 points do you know who holds the record steve dangle yeah no who no so stamkos uh had a long one like a long time before uh he hit 100 uh points gordy how what 23 seasons into his career well

And that's probably because they were only playing like 60 games back in the sixties, right? They weren't playing them. That's a wild. Yeah. But he, the fact no one plays 23.

So the weirdest thing is that, and this is how goofy the Oilers are this year. Ryan Nugent Hopkins has never had a crazy stuff. He's never had Ryan Nugent Hopkins has never had 70 points, man. Okay. So one thing that we do have to talk about is like, I feel like it's a little understated that offense is just wildly up league.

Well, and this is what I want to get into. This is why I want to bring this up. So before I was rudely interrupted by your shitty stat, I'm kidding. No, I wanted to give you one. How many points and stay off the Oilers pages, please. I'm on Nugent's DB. Okay. How many points does Zach Hyman currently have?

Leaf fans, you're going to love this. 87. 83. you guys are both over it's 81 35 goals i'm on my fantasy team all year i know he's putting up numbers big numbers yeah now the thing is is that again zach hyman oh that's newt yeah zach hyman has never scored over 60 points in a year this is how goofy the oilers are man both him him and nuge we looked at their contract extensions and we said okay the the term on both of those is kind of a bit spooky i don't know and they both look just totally fine yeah now maybe that has

something to do with playing with two of the best offensive players and who continually get better somehow well this is the thing well because they're hitting their prime as scoring is hitting its peak league wide and this is what i want to tell you absolutely perfect the nhl is averaging 6.4 goals per game this year the highest total at this stage in 29 years the last time it was this close was 93 94 was six and a half 6.5 wow we're at early 90s scoring yeah which is when the nhl was like actually successful 42 percent of all games won uh are uh teams that rallied from a deficit to earn victory that means there's been 42 percent of all games are comeback games 42 percent all win one games uh 140 multi-goal comeback wins wow so you're coming back from

two or more yeah do you have the save percentage on there no league average save percentage is like 904 great yeah because it was it sucked when it was like kiprasov was at the top with like a 935 or whatever it used to be it was like 910 i don't know who to give credit to in this situation because i know it's not gary but the on ice product this season has been fantastic from a scoring perspective and just an entertainment value and like all the comebacks it's been it's been great uh seven players have reached 100 points six of those players on teams that have already clinched a playoff spot can you name the seven players that already have 100 points this year in the nhl we just gave you one with nuge mcdavid dry saddle nuge

kucherov mckinnon actually there's eight now excuse me there's eight players mckinnon yeah uh mckinnon does yep he missed some time he just hit it last week yeah uh pasta yep and there's one more yep oh we're just missing one oh wow jason robertson that's right ah nice actually there is one more after that because there was eight this article is a little out of date because it didn't include the last one if i'm if i'm not mistaken i'm just double checking this you're missing one more person there's eight guys currently remember all the guys you named are in teams that have already clinched a playoff spot let's talk about the guy that isn't 100 points on a non-playoff or non-clinching team so far

i know eric was on pace but he's didn't hit it yet no mr carlson i yeah i feel like it'd be more relevant if there was a defenseman who had 100 points on a non-member because yosi was going so hard last yeah yeah it was close man yeah but carlson's injured now so um Marner's not there yet Nope Oh and it's a non-playoff team This is somebody who's there They have 103 points

Non-playoff team As of this morning anyway So nobody I'm just running through the teams Tage Thompson Nope Nobody on Good guess though

I felt like that was a really good guess Shoot It doesn't mean that they won't make the playoffs It's that they haven't clinched yet Someone on the Jets? So I'm thinking Penguins uh preds you're in the right conference with the penguins penguins islanders um florida horvath nope no not horrible oh matthew kachuk thank you ah yeah yeah uh the nhl is on

pace for a tab 10 plus players reach 100 points for the first time since 95 96 wow um five teams that currently hold a place postseason spot did not compete for the playoffs last year name them so five teams that are in a playoff spot yeah they currently hold a playoff spot as of this article so one of them's unfair because it's winnipeg and i'm not sure if they're so what is calgary's five teams yeah five teams at the writing of this article which was yesterday i'm going to take winnipeg out of it five teams currently hold a playoff spot they're not clinched currently hold a playoff spot that did not compete in the 2022 playoffs so winnipeg winnipeg seattle new jersey yeah vegas vegas yeah and this one was a surprise and they missed last

year that's it uh islanders that's right they got it they got it yeah uh the devils and kraken are two teams that have gone up over 30 points in the standings the devils plus 43 over last year the kraken plus 34 see the sens can do it you keep saying they just because the devils can can doesn't mean the sens can oh what it's fine they're not as good that's what it is that's the quote sense fans love throwing at you adam well listen do it then and then fucking simply do it and you've been right about it yeah so did you know they had cam talbot i'm sure that they're aware of it i do uh i get tweeted it every day stop it remember i said it was a bad trade and it was here's a question um the caps are missing the playoffs this year for

the first time after eight years in a row in the playoffs and a cup the leafs are seven years by the way in a row no cup um how do we feel about the washington capitals is this the end of sort of i don't know you can't call it a dynasty but is this the end of the run no or are they going to be back next year look at the contract situation like this is going to be an easy retool in the offseason you just keep going for it yeah i mean they didn't have john carlson for a long time tom wilson missed time tom wilson who's he missed time who's he missed time ovechkin missed a little bit of time for his father um yeah just a lot of things went wrong for them. They didn't have Sandin all season.

They didn't have Sandin all season. That's the key right there. You mean future Norris winner Rasmus Sandin? Yeah, three-time Norris winner. Is he going to come back? Is he going to be just a good defenseman, or is he going to come back and haunt us like the Leafs with Kenny Janssen in the 90s? Carter Verhage. Oh, God.

Well, that was a trip. Whenever somebody comes at me with that, I'm like, come on, guys. He was five years before he played an NHL game. Although, out of the five that they lost in that deal, I was like, ooh, Verhage. I didn't know he'd be this good 40 goals scored i don't think he'd be that good if you knew you would have traded for him all right oh he's gonna score 40 goals in five years okay i'll just leave him

in the minor still then that's like a six round draft pick and they credit the organization being like oh they knew carter haggie is a high draft pick no but i'm saying this is like a six round when they credit the organization be like oh look at they're so smart no that team passed on them five times yeah we knew yeah no you passed though you did not shut up uh with the caps like i i don't think it's gonna be a a hard to bounce back next year like they have i'm trying to get the cap friendly up here where are caps washington washington steve help me here oh there they are oh they're way up at the top all right so with the cap space um they have everybody locked up It's Ovechkin, Backstrom, Kunetsov, Oshie, Mantha, Tom Wilson, John Carlson, Sandin.

Like, that whole core I just listed coming back next year. And unlike the Penguins, because it's possible Sid and Ovi both miss this year, which would be wild. I actually kind of like the crop of young guys that the Caps have. So, they're the sort of team who can sort of transfer duties to the younger guys as needed. Yep. oh what's his name connor mcmichael is freaking ridiculous he's the he's the best connor mick in the league yeah oh easily easily the best um i name it name a better one the uh dylan strome contract he's in next year makes five million dollars like there's your new future you know

number one center part of it when the old guys move on i don't know if you're currently number one center is number two that currently two okay these are the bottom five teams in the nhl currently okay and i'll do it you know what i'll do it by points percentage so that way it's a little bit more accurate is that okay good shit okay so the bottom five teams in the nhl currently are the montreal canadians the san jose sharks the chicago blackhawks the columbus blue jackets and the anaheim ducks remove conor mcdave or conor mcdavid conor bedard from the situation and conor mcmichael for that instance um it doesn't matter like take conor bedard out of those five teams who is most likely to bounce back the quickest so who are the teams montreal

canadians san jose sharks chicago blackhawks columbus blue jackets and anaheim ducks montreal like easily no hesitation they the core is already there they shouldn't be as bad as they are injuries yeah there's no one playing for them anymore they also i think they nothing against jake allen but i think it's time for them to get a really good goaltender well i mean yeah Yeah, Montembeau's done the best he can, and Allen missed a ton of time. I mean, I don't think there will be a shortage of goaltenders who want to play behind what the Habs have. Right.

I do not think that'll be a problem. And, like, don't forget, like, even if they don't get Bedard, like, they could trade their first. Their future would still be extremely bright, but they're not going to. They're going to get Bedard or Fantilli or Michkov or any of those guys. They're going to be real good, real quick. Might not be next season, but I think they're going to be real good, real quick. Question for you both.

Of those five teams, Montreal, San Jose, Chicago, Columbus, Anaheim, which one do you want to see get the first overall pick the most? And it can be just because reasons. It can be your own reasons. It doesn't have to be for the good of the game. It doesn't have to be because of this or that. Your own reasons. Where do you want to see Conor Bedard next year?

Any of those teams except for Columbus or Montreal. Because they're Eastern Conference teams? Yes. Okay. Jesse Blake. Those are my selfish reasons. Be selfish. That's the point.

I don't want to watch Bedard play that much. Like, you know, it's the Raptors, all those series against LeBron. You want to beat LeBron. You watch LeBron to see him win or lose in the same way that you watch the Warriors to see them win or lose. That's why so many people were actually cheering for the Raptors during that run because, I don't know, it's no fun to cheer for Goliath. Right. Go, David. Except for if you're a Boston fan and you are constantly Goliath.

Yeah. That fucking Goliath's got some fucking pep in him. Jesse. It's Montreal for me. I think that would be the most fun market to have, Conor Bedard. Most fun, but also, fuck. You know what? You know who I think says fuck the most if Conor Bedard ends up in Montreal?

Who? Detroit and Buffalo. Oh, that's going to be real tough for them. And Ottawa. Because the Leafs have a good core that's heading into their supposed window of... Because the thing is, 27 to 30 is supposed to be your peak, right? Wouldn't that be so funny? Devin Levi is poised to be one of the best goalies in the league.

Conor Bedard has entered the chat. Yeah. Sorry. You know what I mean? Sorry. That's what I'm saying. Detroit especially. You know, because I think Buffalo's ahead of Detroit.

Yeah. Yeah. If a rank and rebuilds Sebastian Casa could be something for Detroit. If Montreal a little bit more mysterious, if Montreal gets Bedard next year is going to be an absolute fucking shootout in the Atlantic. Oh, there he is. Like, is this fucking division's crazy? I mean, it wasn't till Buffalo.

Buffalo didn't even really follow. Have we all forgotten that Florida's in the Atlantic? like you know the atlantic is probably gonna have four teams dude it's yeah no this division is that's already ridiculous it's gonna get more buffalo was in the playoff race up until last week like they had a shot if they just like ran the table a little bit if they got levi a little sooner i still ah you can't go out and get a goalie when you know you have levi and you want to use them and i understand why they didn't do it but if they did go out and get a goalie they would have there's a really good chance they would have made the playoffs the sabers yeah they haven't

gotten saves man i don't know i think it'd be a little tough to leapfrog uh pittsburgh and new york and florida well you only have to really do yeah but what if you had a so there's six back of the playoffs right now but what if you had a goalie for a month you know what i mean they haven't had a goalie they just got levi and he's been about as good as you could hope the anaheim ducks by the way are doing their job they've lost nine games in a row they are now currently tied at the bottom with the columbus blue jackets but they have played one more game than them so therefore therefore they are the last place team right they want to get that what is it 15 20 whatever the 18 and a half whatever they wish they had to play each other the anaheim ducks as bad as

they have been this year are not even in the top 20 of worst goal differential in nhl history and it's interesting in a season where the uh where the goals have been so high that they're not they're currently 22nd the 74 75 capitals are the worst ever at a negative 265 that'll never be replicated the 22 23 ducks are 22nd worst all-time currently although i expect them to get worse um at negative 124 they got four games left to play will they pass the 76 77 red wings at negative 126 and as well as the 77 78 caps at one negative 126 so what are they at 124 negative 124 are you trying to pull up the duck schedule no oh do you want to know yes it's a race it's a race which one of you is the better friend okay so we got ducks coyotes you lose uh to finish out the

Here, the Ducks are going to play the Coyotes Saturday, the Avalanche Sunday. So, Avalanche on the second half of the back-to-back. That's ugly. Canucks on Tuesday, and then Kings and Ducks on Thursday. The Ducks are going to play the Ducks? Oh, oh, oh. Kings and Ducks. I am going to spend my Saturday afternoon in April watching Coyotes-Ducks.

Now, this is really important. Which building is it in? All suite in Mullet. Get ready to crane your neck for that weird ass angle. It is a weird angle. That is good. It's good. How dare you say it's not good?

It's good. I appreciate people being positive. Appreciate that. I do. So here's my question. Are you guys going to watch it with me? I'm going to host a watch party. Well, stop it.

It's brought to you by Coca-Cola. and we're gonna have three zero sugar three NHLers are joining Jesse so currently the Ducks are likely on pace they're on pace

based on who they're playing in the last four games the Ducks are on pace to pass the Red Wings the Caps and the Bruins the 61-62 Bruins at negative 129

almost guaranteed that they're gonna pass those three teams almost man you're talking about goal differential goal differential you could get to negative 130

pretty easy could you get to the 83-84 Penguins mark of negative 136. This is just before Lemieux. No, that's way too many. That's way too many. And by the way, the Penguins hold like 16 and 17 on the list. 82-83, they were negative 137.

The next year, they were negative 136, and then Mario came. And they still didn't make the playoffs until the 90s. You can't even lose a game by like two goals. Like you'd have to lose by like four every night. No. Plus nine in a row. I don't think they get there. Okay.

Yeah, which means they're due. That's right. They're due. Makeup calls, baby. Let's go. Do we have time for the press conference, Jess, or do we need to wrap? No, we can definitely do it. Let's do it.

Yeah, yeah. Let me make sure this... There you go. There you go. I got it. He did it. The Steve Dangle press conference. I did it.

Knee slap. I got it. Slap that knee. Now we ask the questions. By the way, the reason we have to get out of here in 10 minutes is because we're getting the floor. Wall. Oh, it's the wall?

The wall. This one's from good underscore one underscore Randy. Also, someone was asking yesterday, how would they join the Discord? SDPN.ca. Scroll down a little after you hit the homepage. There's a little link that says join us on Discord. Hit that and join the SDPN Discord server.

It is a fun place. Some would say the happiest place on earth. but we might get sued so don't say that should the nhlpa and should the nhlpa be getting involved with the way the game is officiated to use michael bunting as an example the way he is being officiated right now is making him less valuable to the leafs which could hurt him financially in this year's contract so here's a question marty walsh to think this is a job for marty here's a question so marty walsh goes to gary and he says to Gary,

Gary, we don't like this. And he goes, too bad. I don't even see. Like, what's the NHLPA going to do? My mind doesn't go to Gary. I mean, it's a small world. So they're going to find out who called for this and they'll never get a call again

because that's how they operate. Sorry. I'm telling you. Gary Bettman will tell him to fly a kite. Yeah. Unless if you want something done with Gary and you're the NHLPA, you have to give Gary something.

And the NHLPA keeps giving stuff away so they don't have much to barter with anymore. So yes, yeah, he could go complain. Launch the complaint. And the NHL, if you're the NHL, why would you do anything about that? Who do you care? You want to admit to something bad?

No way you don't want to. Get out of here. I mean, the problem with these situations is there's always another player on the other side of it, right? so like uh you know bunting draws a call or something that he wouldn't have drawn before the complaint well that means some other players getting called which you can argue hurts them on their contract and i mean that's that's why we we're not seeing stiffer punishments like oh you

want me to argue for players missing time and missing salary and no why am i fighting for that i don't care this one is from bonesy steve it's not uh any sort of question but it's a hey hey you never know who might be listening bonesy says i'm in traverse city northern michigan and spot a wild mug immediately gushing the bartender says he's a leafs fan and that's and that dang it's get him through the week and the wild mug he spotted was a that's dang it mug oh some bartender in michigan uses your mug uh all the time and it's at the counter in traverse city michigan and he loves dang it's that's that's amazing so there you go i don't know if you want it for your next dang it's to shout about yeah yeah send me that i'll send it over to nick

really cool producer nick but yeah you got a little fan in traverse city michigan and uh collector's item i don't have to get into that nope all right uh this is a story that i mentioned adam before the show i think we can talk about it for a brief second uh the chicago wolves are abandoning the carolina hurricanes oh fuck i forgot to bring this up yes sorry i'm so sorry i have this on the on the list and everything so yes they are okay so very very quickly on this uh because we shouldn't but they do you want to save it or uh well it's kind of a big story now uh their three-year contract with the canes expires at the end of 2023 um the decision is made because the wolves believe that the hurricanes philosophy towards their ahl affiliate changed

this season this is from the athletic uh scott powers wrote this within our affiliation it says we will develop and we also want to win a calder cup um they did i think the philosophy has changed not our philosophy but the philosophy from the top has changed um we had a really successful year and won the Calder Cup last year. Developed players gave them a few players, too, that are in their lineup now at minimum salary. I believe Carolina's philosophy has changed. It was all about development, and our philosophy in its affiliation says develop and win. We think by winning, we developed. That's where we stand. Also, some organizations are development only, but we think if we have the development and win playoff games, guys learn how to win,

which you're trying to do all the time, and that's changed. It's time to go independent and follow our own philosophy. Now, I believe that they are one of the 11 teams in the AHL. that are independently owned and um what they probably fought over was carolina wanted x guy who is young and inexperienced in the lineup and the wolves were like well he won't help us win and care the hurricanes were like that's not what we pay you for actually they probably say that's what the money's for well yeah but also uh they're a little more old school like you know what was always weird for me that the the toronto ahl team was the roadrunners and it was the oilers farm team and i remember going to the games and there were fans who were really excited and cheering

for them and i was like i don't like these guys the oilers guys i'm not cheering for them yeah i'm cheering for the i think it was the saint john's leafs at the time and then it became the leafs affiliate and the marlies and i was like oh sweet they're here and i can cheer for them sort of thing so i like i wonder if it's difficult for fans to cheer for carolina's farm team in chicago it sounds more like they just want to build a team it's a very odd situation because losing the affiliation you lose a lot of stuff you lose money right and there's a minimum requirement of players you got to have who are um you have 13 the wolves will have to abide by the ahl's development roster rule that 13 of 18 skaters must have 260 or fewer games of

pro experience so you need prospects on your roster 13 have to have they'll be able to get minimum so but the quality of player they're getting is lesser you know because you don't have the guys who were drafted who are now going to play for the ahl team you know so they're looking at players who are over in europe who who fall through the cracks in the draft and they just want to kind of build the team that can win championships all the time and it's so against the philosophy of the hl that we kind of know it as where it's like hey you're affiliated with the nhl team you support them and you're kind of an arm of that while also trying to win so they they're going really rogue and being like no this is an we're in a league independent of itself we're here

to win championships fuck don waddell trying to tell us what to do you know and and play this player or whatever it's got to be frustrating we want to play our guys to win every year and this season after a championship season last year we're gonna we might miss the playoffs what what what it has to be guys is it has to be a business decision whatever the carolina hurricanes are paying them and i can guarantee you it's not not much because tom dundon's involved if tom dundon's involved you're not getting paid you saw what he he you saw what he put his head coach through who is a carolina hurricanes legend and and players would run through the wall for no you And so had it not been for Rod Brindamore having the leverage that he had,

all of the staff for the Carolina Hurricanes might look a lot different. Everybody got a raise because Rod got a raise. I'm looking at the Chicago Wolves attendance right now. Last year, I believe they won. Did they not? Yes. Their average attendance was 6,300. Now, part of that might have been COVID.

The year before, obviously, they didn't play. Oh, 6,300 is good. But they have a 10,000-seat arena, and they, this year, are up to 8,500. And they are probably looking at this and going, hey, listen, we're in Chicago, So there's big corporate dollars available to us. If we can get around $8,500 to $9,000, we don't need their support to financially survive. If we put a good product on the ice, we're a great alternative to the Blackhawks who are absolute dog shit right now and will be for a couple more years. And in that time, we could probably work on finding another affiliate within the NHL that works a little bit more.

Well, that makes a lot more sense. And here's the other thing I want to throw out there, guys, is that… Well, Rockford's in Illinois. Remember last week, the Scott Howison thing? They were trying to kick the CEO of the AHL out. One of the teams purported to be one of the major leading teams on that were the Chicago Wolves and their ownership group. They want this guy out because he's apparently too NHL friendly

and not AHL friendly enough. But it doesn't sound like they want to be affiliated with a team. Well, that's what they're saying. So you think this is a play so that they can move to a different team? Absolutely, because what I'm seeing here is Chicago, listen, If you have the opportunity for an NHL team to pay some of your salaries and pay you for the affiliation, you're taking that. No, but they don't want to play the guys. No, I get that.

I get that. But if you go out, if you leave your affiliation with the Hurricanes who are probably playing you dick squat and you go out and you say, yeah, we want another NHL team, then your negotiation ploy, sorry, your negotiation position is diminished because you're actively seeking rather than making other teams come to you. And I think that's what they're going for here. They're going, we're independent. we don't need you and they want an nhl team to go oh they don't need us well we want them and we'll we'll pay more than the carolina hurricanes did that's what i think is going on here i'm interested to see it develop and how it develops because the reason i'm not like overly concerned about what's going on is affiliation in the ahl changes like the wind oh yeah 100 yeah it changes so much

but yeah it's a very interesting situation with the blackhawks the wolves and the icehogs i also wonder guys if it makes room for teams like the toronto maple leafs who have used this before where uh you have an organization that's outside of your organization uh like outside of the marley's and you have players on your team that you want to develop and you send them to the wolves this could be advantageous for the leafs and they did do that they sent uh casimir cassey swole to the wolves big teams too many goalies big teams do that and so if you've got enough money to do it maybe guys they're they're playing the independent game like i know there's other teams that would that would you know this is going to be beneficial to us because we know

there's enough other teams who could use the extra space totally but like chicago currently their affiliates rockford right like it's not like chicago's affiliate is in seattle or they're in florida or something rockford's right that's a suburb you know it's like it's like they're in mississauga it's it's kind of it's fine for them they need to do it what's their what's chicago it was the blackhawks desire to switch to the wolves there's none yeah yeah they have a good relationship so i i think it's these guys being weird and wanting to actually not weird but like wanting to actually just be a team that wins championships and not develop players can i also throw something out there that's logistic and boring there are like three major international

hubs in the united states or three that are like on the eastern eastern central chicago minnesota and charlotte and that big o'hare is the big international airport in chicago and i wonder if a lot of flights go through there so if even if you're a team that isn't the blackhawks and you want to affiliate with these guys it's really easy to get players there because the flights are cheap sure that's honestly not a bad point and but i think we missed the easiest slam dunk sum the whole issue up. Ryan Reynolds. He's going to buy the team.

Ryan Reynolds is going to buy every team. What? Ryan Reynolds is going to buy the Chicago Wolves. Is he? Is he going to get them to the next level? Yeah. Are they going to sign the best goaltender? Are they going to sign...

What was the guy's name? I don't know. It doesn't matter. Did you never watch Welcome to Wrexham? Not all of it. That's good. It starts with Wrexham. And this Ottawa Senators thing

I think is taking too long So he's going to start with the Wolves And he's going to work his way up to the Sens What do you think the Chicago Wolves would sell for? Well we've talked at length On this show about like The value of sports teams Being astronomical right now

What is it for like a top quarter AHL team? They're estimated So their revenue is the highest Sorry never mind forget what their revenue is 17.3 million per year could could the wolves be a hundred million dollar franchise a hundred million a hundred is aggressive so it's about well no you got to take revenue and multiply it right you have multipliers when you buy a franchise what would that be worth

i don't think it's a hundred million would it be 50 million like so here's here's what you know what'll shock you is it profitable how much did mlsc pay for the toronto organites that nobody goes to see and nobody did go to see and they were depressing franchise before mls even dollar 50 million for the whole ass team so for the wolves who actually have great attendance and a great record and a great business model in a great market what are you talking about you do so you think that the wolves are worth less than the argonauts yeah that's fucking ridiculous there's no way a cfl team is worth more than the ahl wolves get out of here no way i do think that i never in a million years did i think we would talk about the value of the chicago wolves

versus the value of the argos coming in what is an ahl franchise worth let's find out i want to know i want to know what's an ahl franchise i think you're the only one ask alan alan walsh the hitman oh he's gonna buy him hey the calgary's gonna team up with Ryan Reynolds. The Hitman. Here we go. We got the Hitman. There was a sale in 2016.

68.95 million. The Hitman? Yeah. Sorry, that's the CHL franchise. Not NHL. I want to find it. I'm going to find it. Where did you get that?

I want to know. Factboys.com? Yeah. That was from TSM, by the way. That was not from Factboys. I'm telling you. I'm telling you guys. They could be worth a lot of money.

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