The Steve Dangle Podcast - Four Tenths | March 24, 2023

Episode Date: March 24, 2023

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Adam is on the move (00:00), who starts in the playoffs for the Leafs? (17:00), does Keefe juggle lines too much? (28:00), You Can Bet That with Sports Interaction (34:00), the Staal brothers don't celebrate Pride Night in Florida (36:45), Rick Bowness calls out Jets players (49:45), there will be an ESPN 30 for 30 on the Vancouver Riots (1:08:00), Ryan Hartman on Jordan Binnington (1:18:00), and speed round Press Conference (1:25:00). Recorded: March 24, 2023 Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://help.sportsinteraction.com/hc/en-us/articles/216779528-Responsible-Gaming-Self-Limitation-Self-Exclusion Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Ontario Only. Must be 19+ or older to play. Visit this episode's sponsors: https://sportsinteraction.com/sdpn Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is Steve Dangle Podcast, powered by Sports Interaction. Want to bet? Backhanding. Woo! S-D-P-P. The Steve Dangle Podcast, with your hosts, Steve Dangle, Adam Wild, and Jesse Blake. Let's go! Wow, the Leafs must be bad.

Yep. They got a lead and kept it, with their best defenseman sitting on the sidelines. No, this was worse. Why is this worse? this is worse because i said so yep what do you mean well they got outshot oh well how could you you know it's it's funny because one team that's a virtual lock for the playoffs you know you can't it's not done until it's done but virtual lock no and then another team that's fighting for it you would expect the team that's fighting for it to get

the more shots on on the complete flip side like from oh well the islanders just needed it more the panthers needed it more but the leafs found a way to overcome and i think march narratives are the worst in hockey really they're easily the worst well the leafs didn't overcome anything the leafs were the better team they walked in the better team they left the better team and they won the game whoa i don't think i don't think florida panthers like players would disagree with that no and i don't know um well i do know they made significant changes this offseason but they really went from this high octane offense uh this high octane offensive team that could also beat you up to just kind of a team that beats you up and happens to score like they laid the body

they were tough yeah and everything and they're not going to be a fun matchup if they do end up making it but uh there's something missing from the from the stew that was there last year i think it might be Jonathan Huberto, although now he's on a team that can't score to save their lives. Right, yeah, and if you believe the rumors, that's not entirely his fault.

I don't know if you heard what... I can get into it later. Did you hear what Nazem Khadri had to say? I loosely saw it. Yesterday was a busy day. I love this show, man. People don't appreciate how good Adam is at prep. That's a lie.

They don't appreciate that because there are some i appreciate that someone called me on the way to the show today and they're like what are you talking about today i'm like i don't know adam adam surprises me and we always just come you guys always know your shit that's why i can do that most shows can't do that because people need to do their thing but you guys already know your shit so i can just throw anything at you and you just do it we we've worked in radio for quite a bit of time adam and i think you would agree that in some other instances there's a lot of hand holding that needs to be done done by uh hosts to other hosts

who aren't has on the ball yes yeah and I think I think you know there's it's like me

carrying Scott MacArthur especially when you guys talk about baseball I have to hold his hand through these

baseball conversations it's too bad Scott MacArthur knows nothing about baseball it's Scott it's

it's three strikes you idiot this guy's talking about strike four oh man can I talk about how good the Leafs are yeah doom and gloom no i'm not oh sky's falling i was not doom and gloom and i quote steve dangle

leaf suck i he said it he said it he said it off here he said that he said it off here leaf suck and also go habs yeah you've never worn a habs jersey yeah um so so i i do want to yeah jesse i think you're absolutely right so i think the first thing we need to talk about is the fact that coming off a 7-2 loss to the Islanders, it's not because they lost 7-2. It's because it was to the Islanders and it stings a little bit more because of John Tavares.

I think it was both. Yeah, I think there's a little bit of that. So they come out and Austin Matthews said, I think this is just good for us as a whole. You kind of gain the confidence back and close out a game like we did tonight. They got the lead. They kept it.

That's always been the thing, right? And the NHL is becoming more and more like that where leads are just really hard to keep. Yeah, for everyone. The good team's the bad team. the good goalies the bad goalies the good teams though when the leafs were becoming good were good at holding leads and the leafs never were and that's what sort of separated them yes now they can and i think uh i think seeing last night the way that they you know there is towards

this part of the year there is like a great tier there's a good tier and then there's the absolute shit you know your bedard tier and the florida panthers are the mid-tier team they could miss they could make and there is a big difference between the florida panthers and the toronto maple leafs right and it's it's now very noticeable yeah and you also i mean bobroski wasn't very good last night but he's also dealing with like difficult circumstances you know spencer night out and they played alex lion the other day i thought about picking him up in fantasy and i was glad i didn't because he got completely shelled so if they were getting probably better starts out of bob um because he wasn't playing as much and also getting some quality spencer

night starts maybe it's a different conversation but uh right now we're on the outside looking in the one thing i want to say is i feel bad for matt murray for not getting that safe ma'am that would have been that would have been the same he said after the game he's like that would have been the same micro there needs to be some that was a cool moment leeway like it's the Same thing with the fricking Patrick Kane OT winner that was like four tenths of a second after the buzzer. You guys remember that when it was almost his last game? Way less than that.

Way less than four tenths? Two tenths then, oh my God, no. How dare I go to four tenths? Less than one tenth. It's like, here to here, here to here, here to here. Here to here, here to here, here to here, here to here. I was so off by saying four tenths. It was like this.

There needed to be, for that OT winner, a, that was so cool tax, you know? Like, we're going to just, okay, we know that was against the rules, you know, you can't score after the buzzer, but that was so cool, we're going to allow it. With the Matt Murray goal, that was so cool tax. That was an awesome save. I've always wondered, there's a hat picks and a dang, it's right, but there's not a whole lot of room you watch those coming up the middle yes i do dang it if it's not a hat that's right that's what i'm saying is there's no there's no centrist party here and i would say that we

could have an oopsie dang it or an oopsie dangles or something like that like one that's like no it's not quite a day it's not quite a hat pick either but it's definitely noteworthy i think that's a dang it i think that's what dang it's are yeah really yeah because i think it's just when it all falls apart you know dang it's like ah shit but you say dang it your kids around you got this really cool thing taken back aha dang it oh okay that's the kind of attitude yeah you gotta look at it from the panthers perspective which is loser that that's the way we played the the cane ot winner and also tyler sagan who did it like three days later right we we made him dang it's

there was dang it's yesterday was there? yeah it was there it was there fucker when's the next Dice Surfing coming out? never because my friends didn't support it

I'm giving Steve shit because I know he's tired so here's what we have Sunday, Tuesday, Thursday weeks are Steve's worst weeks because he's got to do the show late like the LFR late and then he's got to come in early and do the SDP yeah it's just yeah

it's just a little tough by the end it's hard but here I am that's right and the whole time Leo's there being like

daddy play with me he really is and then sometimes I'll just be like let me lie here and then it takes me about five seconds to be like

I'm the worst father and so then I get up and we play and he's in a big just ever they ever just grab the skin

on your face oh yeah oh yeah just oh I i curtailed that pretty quick oh gosh oh yeah no i do i do because because that shit's not acceptable and they need to know that and that's our that is our parent that that is the job as a parent um i everly used to do it but she'd do it nail first and i remember my my poor stepmom was

like i didn't know what to do she had her for a couple days she's like i didn't know what to do and like uh and she and she was like in almost in tears and i'm like i'm like okay let me let me solve this one so everly she's about a year and a half when she was doing it so i'd walk around and she'd take a swing and i'd catch her hand no it's not even a swing oh no it's just a grab of skin well this this is telling me lose weight oh no look at your waddle gobble she did uh she did smack my tummy a couple weeks ago coming out of the bathtub it went and said daddy has a big tummy daddy has a big tummy i was like thank you all of my insecurities are being brought to the surface uh but no when when i what you do is when they do that you yell out really loud and they go

oh yes and then they cry like a dog yeah you go out and they go and they and then you and then you go you explain them that hurt and and they and then they cry and then they want they want to give you a hug and you give them a hug and whatever and then they stop because it's like oh they don't want people i hadn't considered that that might hurt somebody so it's like training a puppy where you go oh yeah 100 you just say that's why he's so gentle oh yeah oh he's such a except for that time he broke my nose yeah well that wasn't really his fault that was you being down in the wrong place at the wrong time that was entirely my fault um i got dentist would you make her go to school no and work no i'd make her game over you'd make game over

on the internet get on okay talk about arbor jack guy now um no i think uh uh one thing i actually did want to tell you guys i thought this was funny i'm like i'm freaking getting old here um so everly we're we're moving uh we're like kind of getting up i know the the again i know adam's never moved so anyway that's here i hey listen so anyway so anyway so anyway uh uh uh she's sitting at the table she's watching bluey on disney plus and i don't know if you've seen blue but it's australian dogs and they're very funny and uh and she looks at natalie and i and she's like um guys i don't know how to floss and i need to learn like it's almost it's very contemplative and we're like okay uh so natalie's like well uh

and natalie and i start googling we're like well you probably need to go to the dentist soon four years old is when you're supposed to take him for the first time whatever and um and then she gets up and she starts dancing and i realized that she didn't mean flossing at the dentist she meant the floss like the no the backpack kid floss dance because some kid at her new in the new level of daycare she's in which is kindergarten prep they can taught her to floss oh and she's like i don't know how to do it properly though and i was like i'm old as hell i went to flossing at the dentist why would a kid want to do that back to the important issue what is it this podcast has been on the air for 10 years in may it'll be 10 years yes okay it's four tenths people yeah all

right so hey hey we didn't we don't deserve to tenometer this yet okay we're not at 10 years so in those 10 years how many different places have you lived well that's a good you don't even know the answer that's insane okay i haven't even been to all of them we gotta count yeah so the first one we started in the rogers backup studio but then once we got panago as a sponsor we couldn't stay there no no you have i know so then we recorded this show in my mom's basement where i lived okay because i had a condo and i was renovating the condo yes and so and then we moved it to the condo which is the first one that's where frege came and we met myrtle there and justin bourne jeff merrick they all showed up it was great that's right um

Richard Petty? Richard Petty was there? Weird. Not the race car driver. And then moved to Charles Street, which is right across from Rogers. You guys remember that, right? And you would be late to the podcast sometimes. Yeah, and I was across the street.

Because he'd be like, oh, the elevator's broken. So I got three. Elevators take a long time, guys. So it'd be like a Bugs Bunny sketch. And then there was my house that was my red house. Remember that? Remember? On Seton?

yeah that one it was red it was red it was like a orange yeah and then that would then post-divorce it was the apartment yeah on queen which was above a store and then this house and then you got one more so eight yeah you're gonna hit eight before 10 years yeah i've moved every basically no no no no no today's is eight right isn't it yeah i don't know you missed one and then i'm adding one oh essentially it's eight essentially it's basically every 14 months eight and ten years man it's a lot and it's funny because a couple of those places i was there for i was at the at the at the first condo there when we recorded there without video it was just mics um i was there for four years that's evil it's crazy stop that there was a couple where it was

like every eight months yeah and it's funny before that uh because of radio and stuff because you know in radio you get paid nothing nothing and uh i remember it'd be like you get like a i get like a 500 raise or something like that at the end of the year and i'd be like well i'm gonna move from this cockroach infested apartment to this cockroach infested apartment and it would be like so every eight months you're flipping apartments and stuff too right you've lived in over a dozen easily places and in that time steve was almost all it was almost one it was almost had you moved into your house when we started this podcast like the one in oshawa you i remember you bought it but then i remember you were like i hope the khl pays me uh because i can't make my

down payment without it we started october uh no we didn't we started may 2013 and i wasn't able to put an offer on a house until i think it was december 2013 oh wow okay because uh i didn't have any fucking money do you know what i remember from that we can do a we can do a throwback show at some point but one of my favorite conversations from that first show was you learning how to do laundry when you moved in with sl because you'd never done it i remember that i had read that story yeah that's a great story it was funny i just it was it wasn't a it wasn't that it was difficult it's just tina was there it's just yeah my mom she was probably like screw it it's so much easier if i just do it well she was very italian and she would do chores and and then i would do

the chores and she'd be like that's not good enough and she would redo the chore and so i'm like so what am i doing this for um so you just go in your room and you make your little video sweetie yeah yeah basically and so then it got to a point where i had to start doing stuff and i visited the house i don't remember why like i left something there or whatever and i was just uh um i was about to leave and then my mom came home i was the only one in the house and she came home and i just like burst into tears i was like i'm so sorry that i didn't do more and she it was like i it was every birthday and christmas present for the rest of her life she was just like it's okay my soul it's my soul you're right you do understand now

congrats it's it's like it's like she got a hundred percent completion on mom yeah no i the video game mom read that i was trying to think of a good name and i came up with mom video game 100 completion on or the sims the sims would be the perfect example i think um i see i can remember being i've lived on my own long enough that i used to pay bills via check i used to i used to mail the check back to the phone company for my cell phone bill oh wow yeah and the reason i did that was because i didn't want them to put it on automatic deposit because um if they or direct deposit because if they did they might overcharge me and then i wouldn't eat and that's that's how close it was right it was real close to the line most of the

time so i wanted to make sure that they were only getting the money when i knew i had it my og youtuber flex is uh i have been doing youtube videos long enough to have been paid by check oh wow by youtube i used to send those out do you have any of those still well no i brought them to the bank yeah yeah you gotta catch those things i do because there was a um it was uh so they wouldn't pay you until you hit at least a hundred dollars because they didn't want to send out like all these like three dollar checks or whatever yeah so i wouldn't even get paid every month it would be like every three or four months you get a hundred bucks a hundred dollar threshold like a gst check from the government got my gst refund i'm excited yeah

oh man i'm gonna drink this entire thing oh my god and yeah um listen i i don't know i don't know what else there is to take from the least one florida game least one we're happy right Can I do the stats I was telling you guys about before? Oh, yeah. When Steve likes the sky is falling narrative of the Leafs. I love this. I love this. Don't forget, Steve is the one who's most afraid.

I swear that is the opposite of what we said last show. It is the opposite of what we said last show. There's been no point this season where the Leafs have gone for a three-game stretch where they did not get a point. That's wild. They have only gone 0-2 twice. Man. There was one time in January where they lost to Detroit and Boston back-to-back.

And then there was one point in December where they lost to the Rangers and the Capitals two times in a row. Those are the only times in the entirety of the season they have gone 0-2. I would like to raise a question. They have a really good year. Jesse, are you sure? What? Are you sure? About what?

What you just said? Yes. You're sure? Yeah. Because I was led to believe that the Leafs got worse after the trade deadline. I would have expected those back-to-back losses to occur then. Both of those catastrophic stretches happened before the trade deadline. Catastrophic stretches.

I thought they got worse, though. I was told they got worse. They did. They did. You just haven't seen it yet. Have you considered vibes? I think the vibes are good. They seem to be feeling themselves.

Yeah. I mean, yeah, Matthew's getting better. I liked him and Willie exchanging goals. That was cool. Tavares hit 70 points Willie hit 80 Murray is

looking pretty good these days listen that Edmonton start a couple weeks ago I still haven't forgotten it you gotta show up

for that game Matt but ever since he's been amazing so that I'll take it if the Leafs are gonna go any sort of distance in these playoffs

I'm just making peace with the fact I think both guys are gonna play what yeah I'm with you

I think so one guy is gonna start for sure and it's gonna be sergey samson off uh no should be sergey what's sergey doing he's probably 50 now he became a shot blocker in edmonton there you go you know why not weird um uh yeah no that's your prediction well think about it so murray's won two cups it happened both times him and flurry split those cups not the uh not the second one i believe once murray was up and running because didn't did we not mention it no hold on hold on hold on mark andre or was it due to injury i think it was due to injury but like see that's that's the caveat then i know there was a caveat yeah but with matt

murray that is the caveat like there are the games where he's bad he looks unusable and the games where he's dialed he looks like as good as any starter in the league and i think it could be a body maintenance thing um i i don't know he's battled a lot um over his career and i think the dude is sore and when he's not sore he kicks ass same with samsonov samsonov has been battling something on and off all season matt murray played or matt murray mark andre flurry played two games in the 2016 Cup. Like I said. Like I said.

Because we brought it up on Agent Provocateur when he was on. And I remember his response was like, well, one of the times was a little different. Yeah. Because he didn't really want to expand on, hey, that Cup run was amazing. He was like, no, I was sitting on the bench.

Yeah. Yeah. I think there's... I wonder how goalies look at that. I think that's okay. It's funny. Every time I check our comments on our videos, the compliment section um uh there's always somebody who's like what is matt murray's bio

and and i yeah yeah like what's it gonna cost them this office that's a very least fan thing to say look it up and i i i want to say to you like i know leafs fans are insular we are you know like leaf fans are are all about leaf fan news um but i gotta say matt murray as a four million dollar backup i don't know how you do much better and and yeah he he had a couple stinkers this year but i mean are we all forgetting that he's like top 10 top 15 save percentage guy's really good no not not anymore he was well he was so it's funny i was uh talking about a bet that like i'm for sure gonna hit on and which is it was matt murray's save percentage over under do you know what the over under was set at no i i wish what was it this is talked about it and

you can bet that oh you know i got you think i can remember anything dude this is one of the ones where i wish i wasn't two dollars steve and i was perhaps 20 50 dollars right the over under was set at 0.9250 or sorry 9205 so 920 so you think he's gonna get 921 and up or under 920 i took the under because he could legitimately challenge for the vesna trophy and still not hit that number of course the easiest bet of your life easiest bet of my life and i'm gonna win like 340 i think i like it that was good the buyout calculator for matt murray is actually very reasonable so his cap hit would have been uh 6.25 next year the buyout cost is about 2.6 million dollars on the leafs and the cap hit for next year would have gone all the way

down to 687 grand and then the year after that is 2 million dollars hmm oh and ottawa incurs a cap hit as well oh weird because they retain salary that might be worth it just for the lulz that's kind of funny no i i don't i mean the leafs have i need someone who understands ltir because i don't um i would love to know how much the leafs have been able to spend over the cap because of murray he's been on ltir twice yeah it's a good question we'll have to message our friends at pugpedia and cap friendly find out i think he kind of is what he is matt murray's it's fine yeah he's a 906 14 and seven of goalies that have played 20 games or more he is 28th it's a good record not yeah not bad and sam sonoff is higher than that i'm trying to find him he's 12 with the two goalies

thing i was kind of taken aback because if things are going well with the leafs in the playoffs let's say they win a round or two and they're going on a deep run i envision it as they have a goalie who looks good in that instance and you ride that hand you know you ride samson off because he is the goalie that's been winning that beat the lightning that beat whoever they face in zack around so i don't see i see if they get both goalies in there then there's like two games back to back where ilia shits the bed and it's like oh no we need to try out matt murray now and i feel like that's not the scenario we should be hoping for no no i'm not hoping for it but i just see it being necessary like sometimes it's a you're hoping for a long thing it's a mental break too

right it's a mental break it's a body break um but it's it's that's only canadians are going to get that but um it's also i don't think there's much between the two players so if one is at 75 percent due to injury and the other is feeling pretty good around 90 you go with the guy who's feeling really good that day but then you would be saying okay if samson off has a great game we're still we still might play matt murray no no no that wouldn't make any sense right so you're saying you're saying like you think one of them's gonna get hurt i'm not saying alternate one of them's gonna be a little banged up i'm sure that that's probably more likely to the case pretty likely man okay yeah yeah that's okay that's not so right now we're looking at the

goalie situation where we're kind of predicting that the goalies were going to have some sort of injuries steve always makes an argument that like okay so i i think this was back when tampa was like winning its first cup it was tyler no tyler johnson in the 2015 final where they lost right and so tyler johnson had a broken wrist broken wrist and so what steve was saying is you're getting maybe 50 40 of tyler johnson and you're telling me that the next guy who's waiting on the outside of the lineup can't be better couldn't possibly be better than 40 percent of tyler johnson yeah there's there's right so that's the thing is like if your injury takes you down to 70 or 80 percent yeah are we then talking about well okay if it if it if we can give him a game

off and then put matt murray in and he's gonna match what samsonov might be without actually aggravating an injury that's where i think it might come into play but my argument was Tampa's 13th forward could not possibly be worse than Tyler Johnson with a broken wrist. Right. He can't shoot.

He couldn't shoot the puck. It's hard to win faceoff. A situation like Leon Dreisaitl who didn't have an ankle during the playoffs last year. Leon Dreisaitl without an ankle is better than every other forward besides Conor McDavid.

That's true. That's totally true. And that's why you can't replace him. This is going to sound stupid. Ankle's different than wrist. Sure. at least he's able to be a civil war cannon where you have to push him sluggishly across the battlefield but once you get it in position it's a cannon right he can put that thing wherever

he wants the wrist makes you useless i this isn't a great comparable but um from the least perspective joe colburn remember joe colburn i do he was uh one of the league leaders in scoring in the american hockey league and then he injured his wrist and he did not score a goal from february until may they went all the way to the uh calder cup final and he didn't score a goal from february till may you you need your wrist you need to be able to shoot the puck and pass the puck and if you can't do that you're i would say less useful than a player who has trouble moving around even like a leon dry sidle yeah you know one least question i have good get it based on get it everything that's happened the last couple get it girl does shelton keith is he does he have to look

in the mirror one day and say am i the justin hall is great sorry what is it what is it is shelton keith the problem at some point it's me hi in terms of the players he plays together and the juggling of the lines and not settling on something in terms of the top six because once he puts it back in order it seems to all work out you know are we gonna get to the situation the playoffs where he's still doing stuff like this uh where we got kerfoot up in the first line or whatever and there's just something we're unhappy with or he puts kneelander at center in an elimination game or something ridiculous i really will never forgive him he keeps playing justin hall in an instance where justin hall shouldn't be on the ice you know are we gonna

get to the point where we gotta look at sheldon keith and be like is he the problem well i can we just can we judge him on egregious lineups per 60 it's pretty high well lately it is lately it is but is it compare it to bad compared to babcock is it worse as a trait well no babcock had the problem of never changing yeah right but it was and then but he would get set and it was egregious yes so keith's is he's got itchy feet he's got flexible egregious but i don't know that i again i think what he's doing right now is he's just going let's throw some shit at the wall see who might have some chemistry that we would never have tried out and then he's going to go to his main lines come playoffs or come 10 games before the playoffs we know that the best version of the

lease is when matthews and marner are playing together and when bunting's on his game he's usually with them yes i think you just run that out there i like the idea though of switching nylander and marner because i think matthews and marner become predictable i really do and i think because whenever you see matthews and marner score it's always from the same spots and i think the reason they're switching it up is matthews and marner are so freaking clinical that they're almost predictable so if you can if you can change a little bit of that mix i think that's why they're doing it i think they're extremely i think they're two of the best defensive forwards on the team matthews and marner yeah yeah and when they're together i think they're so overconfident in

their offensive abilities that they slack on the defensive end oh maybe that's it i don't know what the stats are and if i'm wrong i'm wrong but it feels like they give up a lot jesse i'm not i'm not trying to take away from your point that objectively the best line is with those guys on together don't but I think the reason they switch it up is to and I think Sheldon Keefe is the king of he's trying to fake out other teams like he likes to he line matches at home like what the fuck man and and like and and so I think there's a little bit of that if if I were to say I'm not saying that I agree with it but if I were to say I can understand the wisdom behind it putting Nylander out there with uh uh Matthews every once in a while or for several games they don't play

bad they play pretty good Marner Tavares looks good with O'Reilly I don't I don't hate it when during points of the game in the middle of the second Tavares is with Marner or whatever it's just whenever push comes to shove he throws the guys with the best lineup together well you know I I wonder if is it our best line or is it the line that is most likely to score and their score effects involved the other team is crawling into a shell he puts out an offensive line that's not as good defensively but the other team isn't trying on offense and i i don't know i think so someone asked me about this uh towards the end of the lfr and i think what the leafs are doing comes down to sports science actually oh the the slurpee lineup the 7-eleven yeah i'm trying to

make it a thing okay go with it oh it's it's very it's very no 7-eleven should jump anyway we'll figure it out they sponsor a different network than you're on so i don't think you can do that oh are they a tsn sponsor i've no what no what i don't know what those letters what we need to do is to come over to the sdpn that's what needs to happen yeah yeah so they shun both of those guys yeah um so anyway um it's uh to get their defensemen to play far less because even adding in the one extra guy allows them to spread out the minutes uh so much more and uh on offense every now and then they switch back they're switching up the lines they're uh dividing austin mitch and willie up at times to spread their minutes out i think they're trying to

keep everyone fresh you know giving riley a night off giving geo a night off um given geo especially did brody get one recently yes it feels like he's due for and you know what when brody's out you notice yeah more than anybody yeah he's a he's a really good uh player dependable so i i think i don't know if they're gonna go 11-7 in the playoffs that'll be interesting but i think they're doing it for the next you know three weeks because they're trying to keep everyone fresh okay well with that there's a couple of things that happened in the nhl yesterday that supersede the toronto maple leafs that we will get into next um but first our friend dave pastor you can bet that with david bastel brought to you by sports interaction get in the action

and make a play 19 plus please play responsibly okay so dave uh this is i like this one a lot we are all talking about the arms race in the east how the east teams all loaded up or whatever what we're not talking about is how the west is completely wild it's wild this year and the Colorado Avalanche, who should be like runaway favorites, are not necessarily when you're talking about winning the conference. No, no, they're not. They're about a 4-1 proposition at Sports Interaction right now. But you know what?

You throw in that conversation, just a little small step, there are a bunch of teams, and I'm looking at the Vegas's, Edmonton, Dallas, Los Angeles Kings, even the upstart Minnesota Wild who've had a fantastic last 40 games of the season are in that conversation. so i ask you this um if you're not going colorado which wouldn't be a bad bet anyway uh where are you going because there's a lot of options out there in the wild west i mean for me i'm gonna take vegas i like the i like what their goalie's done um and i like i the team is just every year

they're except for last year they're good um and i don't think i don't see edmonton or dallas catching up and i think that's what it is right uh i don't know i got the oilers you got the oilers dude i've been on this for a month they're a flawed team but their strengths are so overwhelming that it allows them to overcome and the only team that stopped them last year was this juggernaut of a team in the colorado avalanche and there just isn't that juggernaut this year there are three wins i don't think there are three wins out of first overall okay all right all right jesse The world needs to watch out for the Los Angeles Kings because they had one big flaw, and that was goaltending.

And they traded away their franchise star in Jonathan Quick, and they fixed their goaltending problem. You know what? Jonas Corpus Allo has been awesome, and they are on fire. I was going to say, I wonder how long he can maintain that, though, right? He's never been in that kind of position. Goalies get hot all the time and stay hot. LA Kings currently at an almost 9-1.

Would you take them now? That's a great bet. That is a fantastic bet. What are the Oilers and what are the Kings? Oilers are six to one. Kings are eight, seven, eight to one. Yep, nine. Exactly.

Yeah. Producer Drew somewhere is punching air that none of us took the avalanche. No, he's happy. Why is he happy? Because he thinks that means, so I picked him to win in 2020 and in 2021, and he said, stop doing it. And when I picked someone else to win 2022, he fist pumped. So, Dave, Dave, the Winnipeg Jets are a 17 and a half to one.

Yeah. What do you think? You know what? I'd be thankful if they made the postseason. The way you squeak out wins against the Ducks. Really? And the Coyotes by one goal? Are you kidding me?

The Coyotes? The American Hockey League Coyotes? Yeah. I got to go. All right. We love you, Dave. Have a great weekend. So, you know, I think, you know, a couple days after the James Reimer situation,

we come up with this uh uh the florida panthers had their pride night uh by all accounts did a great job uh but the but also another team featuring the stall brothers you know had a bit of a hiccup and by a bit of a hiccup we mean here we fucking go again uh i want to start though this segment with matthew kachuk because uh he is undoubtedly the leader of the florida panthers in my mind him and barkoff and ekblad probably and i gotta say uh he's one of the most outspoken guys in the nhl and i love hearing this you know a night like tonight for me like really is just all about including everybody and like it's it's to my opinion it's by far the greatest game in the world and everybody's welcome in my locker room and and uh you know in our locker room as an

organization i think our organization's done an unbelievable job of of showing that and embracing that and um starting from vinnie all the way down to the players so um continuing the tradition every year and showing each and every day that hockey is for every single person we welcome everybody now contrast that with the statement that his teammates eric and mark stall made before the game uh after many thoughts prayers and discussions we have chosen not to wear a pride jersey tonight the statement should probably just end there um sure probably yeah no yeah they should explain themselves we carry no judgment on how people choose to live their lives i thought that was an interesting sentence and believe that all people should be welcome in all aspects of the

game of hockey having said that we feel but yeah we feel that us wearing a pride jersey goes against our christian beliefs i think there's christian somewhere going this is not what we believe but anyway uh we hope you can respect this statement we will not be speaking any further on the matter and we will continue to focus on the game and helping the florida panthers win the stanley cup eric and mark stall uh which uh oops there's some sort of error in communication there because they did speak further on the matter after the game which i think is counter to what they wanted but uh yes so it's funny um uh eric stall was asked about this and he said but you wore this before and this is the strangest thing and he said no i have never have and they said no but you have

and he said no i have never not only has eric worn it but so is mark oh mark wore it too yeah both have had their pride jerseys auctioned when did mark wear it i don't know it doesn't yeah but uh but i have but i i have the auction pictures right here if you want to see them sure um yeah number 18 stall number 21 and i'm assuming that might be i don't even know where mark stall would have worn that but i know eric ward in montreal new york or detroit yeah so it's It's interesting that now it's like, well, since it's okay. Yeah, the winning bid was $750. We have all the information about who bid and who won,

and the money went to the organization. But it's not just a jersey that exists. There's photo and video evidence of him wearing it. No, in 4K. Here's the quote. I haven't before. I never have. I haven't worn a Pride jersey before.

And listen, people change their minds all the time. um but this is not him changing his mind it's him saying this never happened now he's so weird maybe he forgot but it seems like an odd thing to have forgotten well okay so is that the rink side uh that is uh yeah is that aaron brown yeah yeah so here read the full tweet read the full tweet because it's even worse florida panthers eric style post game when he told when told there is photographic evidence of him wearing a pride jersey in Montreal. I haven't before. I never have. I haven't worn a pride jersey

before. So it's not, he's being told, hey man, there's a picture. And he's saying, no, there isn't. Which is really strange. We have to allow that maybe he forgot. But I thought the funniest reply on Twitter was... But you're being told there's a photo. No.

You're being, somebody is telling you this image exists and you're denying that. My favorite What if I pull out my phone and I show no it's photoshop i don't think i i think the funniest tweet though that i saw was i guess they haven't got to the part of the bible with thou shall not lie um and i don't know if he's either but i just it's like it's such an own like i you just nope haven't yeah it's just what i said in the lfr yesterday is like i'm not doing this from scratch again like we we've had

the conversation you know how we feel and it was a long one and it's exhausting and it's exhausting every time it happens and i'm sure this won't be the last um and you know uh ivan proverov and james reimer and eric and mark stall are not the emperors of christians uh no they don't represent the religion and i think it's an important thing no they're hiding behind uh uh a certain interpretation that a lot of christians and including the pope uh do not the pope has come out and on record said everybody is to be welcomed nobody is to be marginalized there are direct quotes of that as the have they done like vatican pride jerseys no they haven't done vatican pride jerseys yet i won't hold my breath yeah i wouldn't either i don't know yeah but you

know the reality of the situation is all this jersey signifies is you're welcome here yeah that's all it does you say like you're exhausted by like talking about it imagine how people of the lgbtq plus community feel you know if you're exhausted it's just i can't even like my heart goes out to them and all these situations every time it comes up but there is some there is some good that if we talk about the bad we should also talk about the good and steve you have the list there's three teams over the last like week or so that have all worn their pride jerseys everybody on the team they've warmed up in them it's it's a shame uh how much attention and maybe we're guilty of this as well uh the the teams with players uh who don't wear it uh how much attention

they suck up um because we were like uh you were like oh we should you know what we should shout out the dallas stars because everyone in the dallas stars wore it and i said yeah and i think the kraken and you're like you think the kraken you should probably check and i go oh okay and i looked it up and it's the dallas stars the seattle kraken and the la kinks yeah i know the kings one happen too but yeah i didn't know that yeah um that's from uh out sports it's from uh jim basinski um all of them wore the the title of the article is dallas stars seattle kraken and la kings all wore pride jerseys and nobody noticed and again just want to shout out to anybody who's in that community um who listens to this show you are welcome here you are wanted

here uh it's it's uh it's just it's wild that this is happening but here we are now the other thing i want to talk about in following up uh is nazim kadri was asked by sdpn's own julian mckenzie so it was julian who asked him yeah uh asked him about james reimer's comment over the weekend and if if if we want to rewind it essentially james reimer said well i'm a big fan of you know you know nazim kadri we were friends we were teammates forever we're friends um i wouldn't wear a muslim bride jersey but and i think he would understand that but you know he knows that i'm a good guy etc etc and when nazim kardu was asked about it here's what he said i mean james is a great guy i'm not sure how i got tied into it really at the end of the day his opinions are his opinions and

he's got a prerogative to have those opinions for us i think it's most important whether it's in an ethnicity community or anybody is welcomed at our hockey rink that is where we stand here can i help naz out i'd like to help naz out he he doesn't know where this came from i know where it came from to us it came from a scenario that james reimer made up that is not a thing it's not a thing well i would i i wouldn't expect someone to wear no one's asking you to wear that that's not a thing it's also a religion and a religion is a choice right uh who you are attracted to is not and i think that's what people are are missing here is that who you love and who and and and what you are is there's so much that we're born into that's completely out of our hands and all

these people are asking for it this isn't like like i saw so many people online like i didn't choose to be gay i just am yeah and and so and i think that's where that's the difference that james doesn't seem to get with naz is religion you know whether you grew up in a religious house or you found it later it is a choice it's a choice to believe they're open about it's just like it's a choice to make up scenarios that never happened bingo that are not things um it's not a scenario it's not a thing yeah yeah so anyway i just thought he you know monasm to his his credit uh said on flames pride night which is march 28th which is four days from now said yeah i think we're going to continue with it it's an issue an initiative we have we want to welcome everybody

to the saddle dome we want to continue to grow this game and get as many people watching hockey as we possibly can hooray yeah yeah so that's listen that's that's good and i think those teams can you shout them out again the seattle kraken the the seattle kraken the dallas stars and the la kings deserve it's funny i thought the ducks did too but i guess not i just it's funny because like those are the recent ones you want to give credit where it's due uh and i give that credit but we're in this scenario we're sort of giving credit because other teams can't even meet the lowest possible walk yeah the bar's not very high it sucks and you know what to all the panthers players that did wear the jersey uh that's the thing right yeah like it's like i i think matt

kachuk is saying a lot there between the lines here are two fringe players for his team sucking up all the oxygen out of a night that really does matter that he's clearly passionate about those guys are fringe guys they're at this point in their career they are lucky to be in the game honestly now they're all they're do you think that jordan and mark stall at their skill level currently would be playing nhl hockey if they weren't called stall no but the having this thought process in the locker room is relevant because mark stalls wore a letter most of his career yep and eric stall for a lot of his career was a captain absolutely and beloved in the communities he was in oh i met i met eric stahl's happy charming guy sure it's it it goes to what i

was saying in the reimer conversation is does this one bad belief make you a bad person and i was talking about how uh people are complicated and it kind of reminded me uh you know every now and then i think a lot of what snl does kind of stinks but every now and then they do something where i'm like damn that's perfect like you got all of society in one sketch and tom hanks on black jeopardy oh what is yeah because they have this guy and everyone's like i don't know about this guy and as the sketch goes you're like oh i i relate to this guy i i relate to him so much and he's and he's charming and i feel like we could be friends and then it's like hey what do you think of this and the whole sketch ends it's like well it was fun while it lasted right sort of thing and

i just kind of feel like that's where it ended up with him like he does this he does that he does that oh oh but this the stalls are from thunder bay and rainbow collective of thunder bay issued this statement we wish eric and mark would understand that pride inclusion nights and jerseys are about inclusion in sport and having a welcoming arena to enjoy the game of hockey wearing a pride jersey or rainbow is not about endorsing certain values or that you yourself are gay what it's saying is that you're welcome here and that this sport is welcoming of diverse backgrounds now more than ever it's vitally important that allies stand up and speak out about unconscious and unconscious biases uh the community is invested has invested uh in their

hometown hockey heroes and it is more important than ever that eric and mark are role models to not only their own children but to those youth who look up to them because they are like gods there the 2SLGBTQA plus communities deserve better and we urge Eric and Mark to understand these nights are vitally important to ensuring a truly welcoming and inclusive hockey community and that is signed the Rainbow Collective of Thunder Bay

well written so I mean like like Steve said in the LFR last night if you want to know our thoughts on this our entire back catalog is available to you but you can just listen to the previous episode we've always sort of been on this side and and it's never changed so I

am enjoying those mentions what do you mean oh when'd you go all soft and woke you must be new here yeah all right now let's move on to the winnipeg jets um scott billick uh who is the nhl or sorry the uh the jets beat writer for the winnipeg sun had a really interesting conversation with rick bonus i have not seen this now if let me ask you guys if you were to sum up the last two weeks of winnipeg jets hockey in a couple of words what would it be how do you describe what ends up in leo's diaper smelly smelly green caca yucky okay there we go i found it um this quote gets better as it goes along so i'm gonna start and you're gonna be like okay that's not really much but wait wait for the end the stunning conclusion oh

the question from scott do you need more commitment from some of your best players right now rick bonus i've got to get more out of them put it that way oh boy okay so like listen if you lose like sheldon keith would say that i need more from my best guys yeah okay every coach ever i think yeah why do you say it's on you to do more to motivate them who motivates you when you wake up in the morning uh and then so so that was that was rick's question back to the reporter who motivates you when you wake up in the morning scott says myself and rick says there you go so scott says so why do you say then that you need to do more to motivate those guys rick bonus says that's what we're dealing with that's part of our job it's to stay on top of

them and to keep pushing them uh and don't let them get into a comfort zone and don't let them back off sometimes you're doing that and you're not even aware that you're doing it so it has to be shown it has to be talked to it has to be addressed we'll keep pushing and then the rest is on them quote if we were allowing this and not addressing it addressing that they can do more that's one thing but we are addressing it and now that next step has to come from them and scott says this quote question to sum up the quote just seems a little odd that you need to motivate some of these veterans and rick says yep that's what we're dealing with now to the winnipeg jets credit they've surprised a lot of people this season with their play yes they've been very competitive

uh you know connor hellebuck continues to be connor hellebuck you haven't heard about the drama because there's been drama and not the not the fun drama type this is it's like been dark and toxic sounding yeah rumors of this in winnipeg for years yeah so probably since since after their 2017 run where they where they lost to the golden knights and they really should have been in the finals the what i remember frege mentioning on 32 thoughts probably over a year ago the covet bubble um hit the jets particularly hard which i can understand um but then it seemed like they were never really able to get it back on track until this year well and i think so they were they got it back on track but then it has fallen off again yeah because yeah like you guys outlined like that

that summer conversation about the jets was horrific it was like dark when our rare shows in august or early september you know like that was hey this is mark scheifele gonna get traded here like are we running out of days of that that little core is kyle connor going out the door you know and then they then they're fine like the fall and and the depths of the winter were fabulous for the winnipeg jets and they shocked everybody and then now we're back to what we thought during the summer and it's like okay what are the real winnipeg jets is this always going to be a situation where they keep running out this core and it eventually falls off like how it has in the last couple weeks because they can't sustain a season long or a deep playoff run with this this group

and i i wonder how it's going to go in the playoffs here they better watch out for nashville if you can't keep if you can't win these games down the stretch you better watch out because nashville can throw together a little stretch here and get right into your last playoff spot don't worry about calgary but no we'll talk about calgary next by the way if nashville just wins their games in hand they pass the jets yeah they have three games in hand that would give six points that would pass the jets see that's the position you don't want to be in right you've now taking it out of your hands so they're a lot closer than five points we got some real honesty from rick bonus and i think it starts obviously you you know when the situation of guys not trying

that's from the captain down that's from the leadership core down that's who he's speaking to and for him to go public with that stuff in an interview it's it's very honest it's a look into hey last month hasn't been great and these guys need to give more effort well and this is the thing is that there's never been a doubt about the winnipeg jets talent it's it's always been a commitment thing they have one of the most talented cores in the league absolutely uh ehlers connor wheeler shifley those are unbelievable weapons i think they would disagree with you that ehlers is part of the core well which is crazy i'll take ehlers on my team any day please please give us ehlers um i think watch that be the move oh man it'd be amazing all right

guys we got it ehlers is the guy it was like it'll be like the chicago blackhawks when they traded panarin it's like the problem is not panarin but they traded the not problem and continued to keep the problems and i think differences they played panarin that's true and i think the thing is with the jets like they are fully capable of being in the playoffs and being a threat can these guys like what when i look at shifley and wheeler kyle connor i exclude from this because that guy always performs no matter how good or bad they are but shifley and wheeler it does come down to them and i are you a great player are you an olympic level player or are you just below not that we're going to the olympics but if we were going to put the olympics

together everybody would have mark shifley on that team skill wise but is that you remember how chris kunitz made the olympics and he played with sydney crosby wrote shotgun with sydney and he was great he was unreal and everybody's like what the hell is this guy doing here and he was great i i think it's like if one of those players becomes available or chris draper making the olympic draper kirk mulpy kirk mulpy you know because they come in they play a role what role is mark shifley going to be is he he's not connor mcdavid the all offense not that connor doesn't play some defense but he's it's not his strength is so you don't need shifley for all offense you certainly can't use him for forward defensive depth so what is he and the americans maybe

they're a little thinner but even then like is do you need blake wheeler to score you a pile of goals or is it going to come from austin matthews and a bunch of the younger guys 2010 uh olympics how many points did rick nash have i have no idea i've neither do i because he adapted from being nhl rick nash to hey this is the olympics and someone's got to be the shutdown guy can you do that and he did that and he was great and the depth guys on team canada and team usa and most olympic teams need to be able to do that you know who was being talked about for the olympic team had the olympics actually happened uh last year andrew manjapani was working his way into that conversation all year well he had an incredible season offensively but he was also a spark plug

and a guy who could be on the penalty kill. Right? I just don't know if that's the guy. Well, and this is the thing, is that what I'm saying about Scheifele and Wheeler is not that they're not capable. Oh, they're definitely capable. They're capable.

Kyle Conner's capable. Ehlers is capable. Although it seems like he is the next Nordic person to be traded for less than his value. Jeez. I do, when it comes to the Jets, you have the talent. you are in your prime wheeler's a little past his prime shifley's right in it yeah it's time

now show me that you're an elite nhl player because shifley is undoubtedly an elite nhl player when he puts it together kyle connor undoubtedly um nicolai eelers i think should be i i the way they're using him is odd i don't know what's going on there well and also like i wonder what it does to a room when like you have to ask the question does pierre luke dubois wear habs under armor under his yeah yeah we haven't we haven't even mentioned his name right entire conversation but you got you got a guy with question with commitment issues and brought him to a team with commitment issues all right but commitment to the play but like this is this is this wasn't like in columbus it was get me out of here and in winnipeg it's trade me to this very

specific place also i'm under contract and have no right to go anywhere right so like kudos to the jets this summer for just being like uh no yeah does pierre-luc dubois understand what it's like to play in montreal though because here's my thing you play like that in montreal they'll fucking eat you alive yeah he has a big role on this team too and he's not a bad hockey player not at all that's why we're expecting things if if he was a bad hockey player we wouldn't expect anything no he's he's and i think he's the sort of guy you would love to have in the playoffs but like you got to get there first dude yeah i don't exclude him at all from that conversation of of guys who need to get their head in this well and and this is the thing right like jets fans

like i don't know if jets players like you know especially the ones that have been there a long time are you play in other arenas you must be aware that there's very few communities that get behind the nhl team like an nhl team like the jets do jets fans really get behind like they are in that that is a fabric of the community team and they've only been they've been there about a you know just a little over a decade and then obviously there's previous jets you're lucky to play there you're lucky to have that kind of noise you make the playoffs that's the loudest building in the arena in of all the arenas no question so come on get your take your million dollar paycheck and put a little more oomph into your step i'm fascinated by mark

shifley like as a player and a person and a person his person yeah when he draws drives by do you go wow wow and then you're like oh i should get a honda i hate you i do i do i do and that's why i know they don't have it there's no promo code for the hyundai yeah wow i i say that because they he was portrayed as such a student of the game and like he knows everyone sticks and he watches hockey in his off time and that could be true but he may not he may have motivation issues from time to time as we all do we're human beings that yeah i guess I watch hockey, but it's not necessarily that I'm the hardest worker out there on the ice. I am when Jesse's out there.

Yeah, but you can't keep up, so it doesn't matter. You can be a lazy nerd. You try hard, but everybody's blowing past you. Is it fair to say... I saw the bruise on my ribs, you asshole. Let him say something. If the Nashville Predators sneak into the playoffs and the Winnipeg Jets miss the playoffs, everybody's gone. No.

No? you think they run it back again they're gonna run it back again oh gosh you know why you gotta do so first off wheeler's gone right wheelers isn't his contract up at the end of the year or is it shifes that's up uh who's i don't know because it was shifley that said after i gotta know what the future is let's let's get it he was sitting wide-eyed at that press conference last year at the end of the year i need to know for management what the future is because i gotta know okay well why don't you play like you like a a little bit like that guy that we saw at the press conference and i'm not again i feel like i'm picking on shife i'm not trying to but you

you are the the the three or four guys that we keep mentioning are the ones that are going to win them the games go ahead jess eiler signed for three more years mark shifley two more years or one year after this is what i should be saying uh kyle connor signed for three years after this blake wheeler another year after this nino another year adam lowry three more years mason appleton two more years the only ufas are vladdy nemes uh sam gagne like no major names on the roster at all are um are ufas like logan stanley okay so give me some aavs jesse give me give me you want the aavs okay blake wheelers 8.2 cal connor 7.1 right mark shifley is 6.1 wow that's an unreal contract. Ehlers is 6.

Good contract. PLD is 6 and an RFA. He's still an RFA after this? So wait, they don't even have to send him to Montreal after his contract's done? No, they have the rights to PLD. So here's the thing. Josh Morrissey is 6.2.

Nate Schmidt is 5.9. Neil Pionk's 5.8. That's tough. This team, the cap situation is fabulous. Yeah, Pionk stinks. I think he does. Come on. People tried to convince me for a season that Neil Pionk was worth Jake Trouba. He wasn't.

He was never worth Jake Trouba. He was always a downgrade. Stop gaslighting me. He had the best season of his career. Wow. He did. And he was still 60% of what Jake Trouba brought. And I think, listen, there's a reason why some of these guys all want out.

Why do you think Pierre-Luc Dubois gets their place one year and wants to go? Listen, it's got to be more than just Montreal good. Maybe it's Winnipeg bad. And not Winnipeg the city. I'm talking about the culture in the dressing room. It's interesting you say Pionk peaked in his previous home. Because Nate Schmidt's kind of a similar situation. Nate Schmidt's career seemed to peak in Vegas.

And now it's in Winnipeg. Stinky cucka. I don't think he's bad. It's just it peaked earlier. I think it's the role they need him to play. Nate Schmidt is a very specific defenseman. He's got great wheels. I don't know if he's still the skater he used to because he did have some injuries.

But he could always wheel. He was great. i think the thing is the reason i think the jets you you asked the question jesse if it if they don't make the playoffs will roll do they blow it up heads will roll well here's the problem the guy that they wanted to trade last year was the guy nobody wanted blake wheeler and even so you've got to hold back on that contract now he has he's he's having a good year he's got 50 points in 64 games the majority of those being assists that is a 36 year old man who makes 8.2 million dollars next year you need him at half that price yeah you need him at half that price and he's 36

and he's what three more years you said one more year one more year yeah okay so i can see that that being a guy where you train him at the deadline next year if you're out of it or you trade him at the draft and retain but it's one of those where retaining a whole season tough well what do you what else do you do right if you want to make but this is the thing this is why i think they roll it back because what do you do with what they have you don't want to trade those deals that shifley deal that morrissey deal that they're so good they're some amazing contracts like shovel day off i don't blame him for going no fuck it we're keeping it look at how great these contracts are imagine imagine the cap

goes up like the the big jump like it's eight million dollars and you have josh morrissey until 2029 at $6.2 million. He's still 2029? 2028, sorry. 2028. That's a real deal. He might win the Norris.

He probably won't, but he might win the Norris. He'd be a runner-up. He's a guaranteed runner-up. But like Josh Morrissey, oh my god. That's crazy value. And like the Blake Wheeler contract is clearly an albatross when because he's so old and so much money but then your next contract is cal connor who's 26 and makes 7.1 million dollars and can put up 40 goals any year

he's been really disappointing too like we were talking about him in the 50 goal conversation and he scored for like the first time he had like a kerfoot-esque streak what's he at this season 28 after the 47 goal season last year he only has 28 this year his assist numbers up though he's already at 46 the 46 was his career high last year yeah i think all right the end of the day it's only 11 games left there the the the frustrating thing about the jets is that they're good enough to be there more than they're good enough to be a playoff team this year and next yeah and it's fucking frustrating i'm sure as a coach and as management to go we have all these great value on these deals we got this incredible engaged fan base that is like almost look at that

what's that what's the street called when the jets are in the playoffs and they all dress in white and blue and they're all like bananas with the dale howard chuck the air strip is it the air the air it should be called the runway the white out uh the white out the white no but but you know there's the outdoor oh and so it's like a street and they're in the first round and it's like outdoor the arena and they're all watching and it's fucking minus 95 because it's winnipeg in april and uh and they're all still out there partying like it's 30 degrees and it's july not a coat in sight not a freaking not what there's a bunch of people there with cargo shorts on it's crazy and i just i like the jets winnipeg deserves this team at its best and these guys don't get it

i don't think i don't know if these guys get you know get their wish and get traded there is no guarantee that you ever play for a team as talented as this current jets team is you just don't know here's here's a thought and i'll use two non-winnipeg jets teams to equate it remember they were coming up with the playoff format for the covid bubble they were coming up with the qualifying round or what yeah yeah qualifying round who was against the format do you remember i don't know there was one team in particular that was really against it pittsburgh you know why they had to play montreal who does montreal have carrie price do you think teams want to run into connor hellebuck no forget the jets do you think

teams want to run into connor hellebuck from four to seven games nope not this year uh get in if they do start head if the heads start rolling and dubas is still around because that's still a question um the leafs had better be the first ones in on a guy like connor hell oh my god can you fucking imagine i can fucking imagine you do you give every you give the first round pick forever for connor connor hellbook that guy which oh my god oh it's my favorite goalie i love connor hellbook i want him um okay this is just announced during the show and steve uh uh steve you're excited about this uh from sean fitzgerald espn films announced today that production has completed on quote i'm just here for the riot a 30 for 30 documentary about the 2011 vancouver

stanley cup riot now i love a sports documentary 30 for 30s are so good too um do you guys remember that of course oh i watched it live i was in calgary and i remember watching the game end and that was a heartbreaking game right for nothing and it's like it wasn't close for a moment no and it's like and and just after you thought like the Canucks are gonna win this you know no I didn't think that well the Canucks thought they were because apparently Mike Gillis was toasting their win and uh you know Roberto Luongo what was the infamous comment he made some sort of comment to pump his tires right so but but what was interesting is that back then it was an early game i remember that yes it was still uh daytime still daytime out east and uh

and the cbc in vancouver was playing it because it was hockey night in canada on cbc at the time so what was fascinating was they went from the hockey feed we were all watching hockey night in canada on cbc to the news now the national feed right they were right into the news just smoke but but it was it started you could see like the cbc vancouver guy they kept it on that feed at least the feed i was watching and they had a great street side studio i think at the time and they were talking and they and they had these shots like oh there's some fights and whatever some discord and then which is normal yes which is normal after a loss and people fight and whatever and then we saw jesse and i by the way after game seven last year we're walking out with natalie

and jesse's uh girlfriend gabby and um and there's leaf fans fighting each other i saw two it's just like those idiots idiots like like we just lost a tampa let's beat the shit out of each other morons but my wife was freaking out i think it was the first time she ever saw something like that uh but um what happened was you get the i love this sometimes with the news is you get real-time reaction as it's happening because the story is unfolding right outside of their door and that's what happened it's a and i don't even know why still to this day it really happened And people said there was provocateurs that would come in and they were there. They were just there to smash stuff and blow stuff up.

I'm fascinated to see Vancouverites talk about it and people from BC. Because what I remember is a lot of Vancouverites swear up and down that it was people from the suburbs coming in. Like Richmond and stuff like that. Although Richmond's its own place. But you know what I mean. All the cities that are outside. Theater cities. Yes.

coming in and starting shit. I just remember and I talked about this in the book being part of that massive crowd coming out of the very same building the very year before when Canada

won the gold medal and I was just walking around and just like this could get bad real fast and it didn't because everyone was in a good mood but it was interesting to see it. Do you remember Jess? Do you remember where you were? what you were doing not really no no not for not for that one uh yeah i don't remember where it was

i don't think i i was paying attention i think i might have just turned off the game after you know they lost you know because i wasn't i wasn't like heavy on twitter at that time or anything like that no right so you see it come up later yeah yeah it's it's been a watch this on tv like old people i know right well that's when i had cable and i was watching on a linear channel i think it'll be a fascinating documentary i'm excited to see how they um how they kind of handle it and what what do yeah what do vancouver rights have to say about it now they need and what's the investigation say they need interviews with i'm interested if anyone we know from sports broadcasting is going to be in the doc they need to interview the couple in the weird makeout

picture yeah that that was wild i don't understand that um there was an infamous fan video of a guy getting completely ktfo'd and i assume they're going to interview both parties there's an iconic picture of a dude standing in front of a window just doing like a crazy scream and there's like fire they're gonna everyone in all the famous photos they have to get they have to get and i like i i assume they'd be easy to find because they'd all be like in a police database well because i think there were a lot of arrests oh yeah that followed espn is nothing if not thorough on these two they're like they turn over every stone it's amazing they made me care about the indiana pacers so i i they made me care about the 1989 world series where there was a where the

i think it was the giants were playing and they had like a uh there was an earthquake what and the stadium part of the stadium collapsed like what yeah oh it's a crazy i mean it's a crazy story there's stuff on there that you just don't even know there's been so many sports there's been so much sports yes i saw a clip yesterday they're like steve have you ever sent or seen this you should do a video about this and i go what is this it's doug gilmore on the flames so young long-haired doug gilmore on the flames in a game against the kings the kings wax the flames it was like eight four gilmore is yapping at the king's bench the king's coach at the time i don't remember the guy's name walks to the end of the bench and punches doug gilmore in the face

what i've never heard of that dude gilmore is on the ice and the coach of the other team walks over and punches him right in the face no way i think it was also 1989 i've never seen it i've never seen it in my entire life i had no idea this happened can you imagine the outrage today if a coach did that oh my we'd never see that coach again are you joking me well i don't know if you get babcocked but uh l.a l.a king coach webster punches gilmore this is 90 91 wow like i have okay so there's this is a an ugly situation there's players shoving each other from the bench and on the ice does the punch already happen no no he's at the bottom he's number 39 yeah lots of people very upset there's gary roberts involved but they're shoving the glass

and everything like patrick wasp tiles where's doug i've lost him in the crowd there he is there he is are you showing the footage by the way yeah okay it's from a network that probably doesn't exist anymore i don't think anyone's gonna probably okay so the glasses now come down They took it off. Yeah, no, this is getting real ugly real fast. This is wild. The wide shot is in black and white. Oh, Gretzky's in this game.

Yeah, he's on the ice. He's just sitting on the side, not getting involved. Makarov, Neuendijk is there at the bottom right. Do you think the day after this game, sports radio went on and was like, Gretzky, he should have got in there, like how they do it. No, they yelled at Austin earlier this year. You know why? Because they all knew Gretzky would never get involved in that. Here it is. Here it comes.

I'm pretty sure here it comes. So there's Gilmore. He's getting yanked. He's getting pushed. Yeah, this is getting real ugly. Steve, where's this punch? Dude, shut up. There's no punch. No, that's just, it started again. The video started again. We're at a replay now.

Well, I'm not the one who brought up the fucking video, am I? It's not my fault for finding the wrong one. Or you found the wrong one. Oh, here it is! Here it is! Here we go! that's Gilmore and he's pointing and he gets punched right in the face oh that's the punch there

yeah you get punched right in the face and that's the coach points at him and whoom he got he got fined you're gonna laugh you're gonna laugh this is how little things change this happened in what 92

you said yeah the coach 91 it's 2023 the coach was fined $5,000 no way no way five grand he was also suspended four games that would have been half of his salary back then well yeah he was he was fined five thousand dollars and suspended four games wow punching an on ice player isn't that wild wow i wonder who the uh who was in charge of discipline at the time tom webster yeah his name of the coach uh webster was given a four game

suspension by the nhl in order to pay a five thousand dollar fine gilmore was suspended for two games and fined five hundred dollars and joel auto was punished with a five hundred dollar dollar fine as well those are the only punishments to come out of that according to steve springer of the la times in 1991 gilmore actually threw the first punch it's hard to tell from the video we can see gilmore uses his left hand to point but it isn't clear that he threw a punch towards Webster. Over 196 penalty minutes were handed out in the contest.

Rod Bouskas had 20. Then they list some different guys who had a lot. Yeah. That's crazy. Tom Webster of New England Whalers fame in the 70s. He coached the LA Kings for three years.

They finished fourth in the Smythe, lost in the second round. First in the Smythe, lost in the second round, and then lost in the in the first round in that year, 91-92, and he was replaced by Barry Melrose of ESPN fame. Shout out Patrick Trudeau of the Hockey Beast

who wrote an article on this. The time that a brawl ensued after a coach punched Doug Milton and dug Gilmore in the face. That's the guy on all the flags. Oh, sorry. No, no, no. He's really popular in Oshawa. That guy. You weren't making

a joke about Trudeau and flags? It's a joke about oh okay so you were making a joke all right i get it you gotta no it's patrick trudeau of the la times is another popular figure in oshawa the hockey beast not the la times two it's a hockey thing it could have been with oshawa three work on your setups four kiss my ass that's the thing sometimes steve's very funny but sometimes all his setup happens in his head yeah and then and then we get the punchline and he's like ah waka waka uh is that is that your steve from the muppets i know who you're talking about bozzie bear

steve i don't think you're very waka waka i don't know if that's a compliment or an insult so okay so uh uh one of the things that we talked a lot about was uh jordan bittington and mark andre flurry last week jesse there's a video that i want you to pull if you don't mind okay and people forget that the person that got under jordan binnington skin was ryan hartman yeah yeah it's kind of like he but he he wasn't really the story bitter was the story mark andre flurry not being able to fight him was the story even though he was like hey this would be fun uh ryan hartman's had a hell of a uh season or two oh yeah because he's the guy who gave evander kane the middle finger oh and then evander kane's ex-wife uh donated to the gofundme to pay off

this fine wow i didn't know that damn yeah wow yeah so ryan hartman power forward uh he was on a podcast this is the thing man outside of outside of toronto like some of these players actually go on podcasts and say stuff toronto it's like lockdown uh at least pr you can't talk to anyone in season unless it's directly after the game i haven't asked for a while we'll see ryan hartman talking about what he said to get under jordan minnington skin and i want to know what you guys think i definitely remember not scoring um usually not in the net when i score against them usually behind the net usually behind the net shots fired um no it's i actually didn't even see that to be honest started with him spearing ecker in the end of the first period ecker

And that's what Fleury was talking about, right? Well, Ecker was held from behind with his head up, like always. And he came up into the pile and gave him a little bag check. Yeah, a bag check. And then I was pretty pissed off about that. Kind of just let it settle because we were down 3-1. And then we scored three goals to make it 4-3. They called a timeout.

And then I went out there and just told them to stay in it. You're all right. Just stay in it. you'll be, you'll be okay. And he didn't, he didn't like it very much. It's going to be all right, man. You got this, you got this. And that's when he started coming over to our bench and mouthing off. And yeah. And then before that draw actually on that power play that I scored on,

I actually told the ref Kelly Sullivan, I'm like, Hey, Bennington's going to take a penalty this shift. you might want to because i was going to stand in front of him expecting him to whack you whack me so i'm like just keep an eye out on him he's like i'll watch out for him and yeah sure enough it's wires crossed that's good stuff that's a funny clip it's so i don't know i can't find the podcast that was on so i apologize for not giving uh giving credit uh i don't know what it was but man stay in it stay in it is a that's an underhanded good shape like that's a good chirp don't yeah don't get kicked out of the game that takes some well and also like stay in the

game as in like you're gonna be okay man yeah keep trying that um that is you ever see that kevin garnett clip where he's talking about uh tim duncan no it's and he's just like he because kevin garnett loved to trash talk but tim duncan would just be like oh almost like every every time you missed not one liners one worders almost it's the wild on seventh podcast it's the official minnesota wild podcast oh like their team podcast it's like on there how great is that oh that's awesome man with the leafs the leafs podcast when i did it uh because i did the official toronto maple leafs podcast for two years and i gotta tell you uh there was no access to players ever no don't even ask not the current not gonna yeah but you were under lou yeah i was under lou

i was under lou you worked for lou lamorello i did yeah yeah and i mean we got like we got good people we got like will arnett and stuff like that but we never got and and uh pascal and yeah it was it was wild that's great that they do also that studio's nice yeah hey guys can we have a famous actor will arnett yeah sure hey guys can we have matt hunwick uh absolutely and don't ever ask us again um i don't know if you guys saw this oh with this i'm sorry it's it's so easy to get under binner's skin oh my god that was so little the way he describes the story and then him going to the ref and being like hey there are penalties gonna come out i'm gonna stand in front of him like fucking mind games well done i think too but you can you can interpret that as hey i'm

gonna agitate this guy into right also the referee being like oh yeah watch out uh well If I was his coach, I'd be getting involved like that. If you're Craig Berube, do not show him that and go, see how easy you are to, like, how can I trust you in that if that's how easy it is? If it's that easy to get under your skin, then you need to take a good hard look in the mirror because we're going to lose all the time if you're playing like that.

You got to do this every game to him. If I'm on another team every single game, I play better. If you're Martian and you're playing the St. Louis Blues, are you not like, let's freaking eat tonight, boys? Yeah, absolutely. oh um if you're a net front guy in that division congrats uh brad marchand by the way uh did quick he quit twitter uh and i told you about that last show and everybody was wondering why so a reporter asked him and he said because he's like it was funny i'm gonna pull the exact quote but he um

he quit twitter for the reason that we should all quit twitter but won't he's not gonna pay for a check mark that's exactly it no way he said they took my two-step verification away so i was like what uh i'm gonna get out of this now while i can yeah because the thing pops up and they're like hey either we you can't have access to your account or take off two-step verification it's like what the fuck yeah the last he said the last thing i need is someone hacking me so if anything comes up it wasn't me that's fucked good for him yeah yeah i like i'll fucking fuck i hate that i like him i fucking hate how much i like brad murphy stinks yeah it's capitalism bro shut the fuck up you bootlicker um now the other one i want to say before we hit to the press conference here

uh is for the for flyers fans uh steve coates legendary broadcaster beloved member of the philadelphia flyers has announced his retirement for broadcasting after 43 years so congrats to coatsy and flyers fans you will probably have a new person uh in the broadcast booth coming this here do you have the vancouver one no i don't john john garrett yes john garrett leaving the uh canucks regional broadcast yes uh sign off yesterday it was very well done yes absolutely people love john garrett oh yeah so anyway big shout out to those two guys let's do the press conference the steve dangle press conference yesterday threw out for questions on twitter And whenever I do that, we get a ton of questions,

so I'm going to speed run through all of them. Let's go. It's the slowest speed run I've ever heard. What is the difference between four-tenths of a second and less than one-tenth of a second? This is from Colin. Who's the third pair right D going to be in game one? Lily, Shen, Gust?

It'll be Shen because Riley, Shen are now the third pair. Slash first... No, they're the third pair. And by the way, the defensive metrics for the Leafs were spectacular last night without Riley in the lineup. And I feel bad, but the guy's clearly injured. Stop playing him that much.

I think it's going to end up being McCabe Brody. Mm-hmm. Riley, Shen, Giordano, Hall. A little bit on the outside. This is from DMax74S. 74 s can steve do a putty from seinfeld the devil's impersonation the devils the devils this is from scott the la kings are the hottest team in the league since february 1st discuss

yes they are they are on fire corbisolo is the answer that they needed everybody who was upset about the quick trade take it back they are amazing do you guys have any takes uh yeah the last time they did this was 11 years ago and they won the cup i love the way the la kings are built phil to know for me remains my favorite la king that is a fucking awesome signing yes oh really really good guys on d i wonder if they're a little bit hard to know in the playoffs i'm so happy that uh quinn byfield has arrived by field that's been a long journey for the guy he's still so young but like the expectations on him when he was 19 were through the roof and like now it seems like oh it's arrival time and if he has a moment in the playoffs

we could have like a quinn byfield playoff moment it'll be fucking unbelievable you know what's unreal he hasn't had a long journey like he just got here but he's been through so much like a wild amount of injuries and just getting established on this team with monsters up the middle and he's finding his way man next up adam i think you'll find this one very funny uh this is from frank the tank map of the population around the current sens arena versus the proposed location uh 905 percent more people live within one kilometer of the proposed site versus the current site oh my god so as a person who with a passing interest in real estate is that good how did they ever build the arena out there it was dude when i was growing up because i got family

near there when we drove past it in ottawa it was in a fucking cornfield there wasn't even like the hotel that's next to it now no that number's probably gone like down oh yeah it's just it's it's in the middle of freaking nowhere of course ottawa's a great city i like it i like it you gotta put an arena near people according to this chart that frank tweeted at us it says the in terms of the five kilometer rate radius of the proposed site there's uh two hundred and twenty seven hundred thousand people and with the new where the current canadian tire center is there's 90,000. Man.

I don't know, guys. Maybe move the fucking arena. Wow. Wow. Dude, and it's going to be a smash success. This one is from Mike E.D. Tampa lost 7-2 to Ottawa. Will they make it out of the first round?

Dude. Oh, come on, guys. It's Tampa. Are you out of your mind? Listen. They're going to be competitive, okay? It'll be a tough series, okay? They're going to be competitive.

It'll be tough, but they're... This is what Tampa... The slump? Yeah, but it's... This is going to sputter. It's been going on long enough, and it's a problem. No, five games left in the season. They're going to go 5-0, and they're going to roll into the playoffs.

We need to watch out for Saturday. Saturday, they play the Boston Bruins. Tampa. Tampa does. So after this weird losing streak where they're losing to teams like Ottawa 7-2, they have a real test on Saturday. tam uh boston's not really playing their best hockey either they're they're getting results but their performances within the wins are not as good as they have been so with two teams kind

of reeling who steps up what kind of game do we get do we get a playoff type game i don't know both teams going at it yeah i don't know but no it'll be the most competitive game either team has played in a while that's a good game to watch for saturday brad marchand um he he actually commented on on the uh on on the whole thing that's going on in the atlantic division right now with you know the everybody's talking about the 1v8 versus yeah sorry i couldn't come up marshan you have the top three teams in one division which you basically do well he said you have three teams that should be going deep two are playing each other in the first round so i think we should go back to one versus eight so brad marshan is a leaf fan so yeah so the thing

that's so important because the thing everybody focuses on is they reseed it one through eight and they're like look nothing changes no but that's not what the complaint is the complaint is that the playoff races are between three teams if it's one through eight now you have a chance where there's more than the three teams you're competing against for the playoff race so even if it ends up the exact same it's more compelling if you're competing versus eight teams for a spot as opposed to three it's so like it boggles my mind when people are like no it's the same thing stop the result is stop drinking gary betman's kool-aid guys come on the results might be the same in terms of the season but the way you get there a more compelling point to get there would

be one through eight i don't remember who tweeted it but it was the leafs currently have more points than any team in the western conference they trailed their own division by 20 points uh this is from taylor proper dishwasher dishwasher etiquette neat and tidy or if it fits it fits if it fits it fits it's the dishwasher's job to do it neat and tidy dishwasher for neat and tidy because that is how you get more things to fit oh that's a lie the lie detector test determined that was a lie neat and tidy until it's full and then you cram it or if you're jesse and steve at my house the answer is in the sink yes oh i always put my mug in the sink they're haters a couple of haters

fuck them you do it i don't i don't live here fuck them you do it all right all right all right all right god i'm gonna miss this place uh devin can we get an update on steve's thoughts about tim about the tim stutzler contract what is that in reference to uh i i'm pretty sure i said it's amazing oh i bet it sucks because it's ottawa boo no it's great it's a good contract i said it's gonna be uh like a really because he's not even making eight right yeah it's a great deal yeah it's a fantastic deal he did start the season pretty slow and since a certain point in the season i don't remember exactly when. He's been one of the most productive players.

Who asked the question? Scroll back up. Devin. Devin, are you asking us to do a deep dive on Tim Stutzla? Hey! Get it? Because he falls for no reason. Woo!

Alright. No one has accused him of that in like months. Doesn't matter. This is from Nick. Nick says, ask Steve if he feels bonita. Steve, do you feel bonita? I feel Bonita. Good, because you look Bonita.

Thank you. This is from Jordan. How crazy of an idea would it be for Samsonov to start home playoff games and Murray to start away games based on their splits? No, stop it. Don't Galaxy brain this.

Just put Sammy in until he's hurt. Come on. First of all, no, that's stupid. That would be a very baseball way to look at it, though, wouldn't it? Oh, my. Oh, fucking baseball manager

in this situation. They ruin it. It's away, and the Sabbath is three days away, and he usually does great on nights where the unipotty has struck out the last 46 batters in a row, but a lefty's coming up. Let me bring in our special lefty guy. Yeah, we pay Shohei $3 million.

We pay this next guy $700,000. Here comes Aaron Loop. Oh, my God, baseball managers. um so he's in line for a perfect game but our our analytics say we should take him out no now every pitcher comes out to that in my mind um from puck empire on instagram i saw this yesterday because someone sent it to me ilya samsonov at home has a 929 save percentage wow away he has an 8-9-2 Matt Murray at home

has an 8-80 save percentage away 9-20 maybe they do have a point there I think they need to ride it split the guys that is some silly goosery this is rapid fire press conference

let's keep going this is from Emily what is your perception or stereotypes you've heard of each US state that has a hockey team so let's not do all of them I'll throw out some quick ones So Emily said, I live in Ohio. What do you think Ohio is like?

It cracks me up to hear other people's thoughts on things like this. See, I've been to Ohio, and I found Ohio very nice. But I found downtown Cleveland after the crash, which is when I saw it, a little bit empty. What's your perception of Seattle? I love Seattle. It's really nice there. You've never been? Yeah, I've been to Seattle.

Oh, damn it. There has to be places you haven't been. Oh, haven't been. Oh, haven't been. Okay, so I have been to Ohio. I have not been to Seattle. And I think it rains just too much, man. that's funny all right what's your perception of dallas oh man oh man sure a lot of oil barons

you know guys with big hats yeah and also when um when they bring out um uh fajitas instead of the loud sizzle um for some reason the the all the ingredients go yee-haw really loudly all right i'm gonna do three more what's your perception of carolina oh man everyone's real excited to show you their boat i like that i my perception of carolina is everybody has a house on stilts because you know in carolina like in northern florida and like carolina along the coast there they have their house on stilts because if there's a hurricane the water comes in but the house stays standing and you don't get it flooded which is why you live in a boat is there is

is there a lot of water in carolina well they're on the coast yeah the ocean why the hurricanes why do you think yeah there's not landlocked i never thought about it all right let's uh minnesota it's like the wyoming tsunamis minnesota minnesota boy do they like being inside you know that's just really cool they're the kind of team that i would want to sign with that they weren't that good and i want to go fishing that's an ancient provocateur reference remember that guy that what was it was uh uh yuri or something uh a couple weeks ago we did this thing with his name and then you remembered it wait what was the guy the guy who went fishing instead of he's like i want to sign with you because uh seager zedano seager there you go yeah i think the the uh i my

perception of minnesota is it's everything that canada thinks it is good winters lots of lakes lots of big trees and people playing hockey in their backyards deputy mayor marion gabrick yeah that's right yeah absolutely uh what is last city i'm trying to i gotta find one that we've never been to yeah because i keep thinking like edmonton you guys have all been there you can't do that vancouver can't do that can't do any of the canadian cities uh what do you guys got any for the last one uh i've never been to vegas florida ones you've done oh yeah I've never been to Sunrise. It's an out-of-the-way trip.

You've been to South Florida. Yes. I've been to Miami. Washington. DC, I for sure have done that. I'm better traveled than I thought. I've never been to Vegas. You've never been to Vegas?

No, I've never been to Vegas. But Adam, what did you think of that time you didn't go to Vegas? What did you think? I thought, sure, a lot of drums and explosive stuff here. Oh, I got one. Drums?

Well, Joe, because don't they have the drum thing to start the game? Oh, they do. And so everyone in Vegas has drums. Everyone has a drum.

How do they have that many drummers? I got one. San Jose. We'll end on that. Neither of you have been to San Jose. Well, I sure do love

living down the street from some guy that founded a company that now is a billionaire. And no, that's pretty good. Yeah. They all have ginormous beards

and no shirt. Mm-hmm. Just have a... People are just sweating computer chips in San Jose. Okay, let's move on. Emily I know you asked for states but we did cities Because of the vaccine

This is from Devin Thoughts on Justin Hall Am I right man? No we gotta move past that Am I right? Thoughts on Justin Hall And the mandates Thoughts on Justin Hall

Being in the top 20 all time in Leafs plus minus Shut the fuck up No way is he? Yep oh man you know what i think you know what that's the way it's got to be i'll do this is right justin hall is the best defenseman to ever play ever i mean that's lucky him he's i mean okay he's fine justin hall is fine yeah he's fine it's it is relevant that he's only been a leaf when the leafs are good i think that's fair the

Leafs have had some good Leafs on bad teams. You know what I mean? You know, let me know when you got to play freaking 2008 through 2014 and you're still a plus. Let me know. Carl Gunnarsson or something. Yeah, basically. Do you have any WrestleMania predictions?

Yeah. They're going to. I feel like they're going to pull an audible with the main event somehow, but I can't figure out what it is because they are trying so hard to get Cody Rhodes to be the most over person in the company. And while he is over, it's just not going to work. People want to see Sammy Zane beat Roman Reigns.

It's what the people want. so i think they're going to try to find a way to make it a triple threat or there's going to be some sort of roman will be betrayed i can tell you that and he will drop the belt at wrestlemania and if he doesn't i think there's a riot this is a fun piece of trivia for a different day travis said name every team points leader team leader in points let's do that another day let's what i said yeah jared spurgeon so we'll run through at the end at the end of 82 games i'm gonna run through all 32 teams and then you gotta name who led the team in points that year that'll be a fun day um how embarrassing will it be when the wild take the central with 10 12.8 million

dollars in dead money that's from matthew who is handles uh minnesota wild talk so we get where your fandom lies what a what a dog fight yeah in that division too yeah any team could win any team could finish third dog fight wild play the avalanche this upcoming week that'll be a great one we can end on this uh it's from at my john 91 i think there's a john tavarez fan is banana bread a breakfast item or dessert item yes yeah i agree i agree on vacation it is absolutely a breakfast item uh no off vacation it's a dessert item that is a very good stipulation to place it on because when you're on vacation like they have the breakfast plate like go to hotel and sweetbreads it's like carp it's um what's the word i'm like we're comped breakfast you know

like continental yeah continental is is what he's saying yes yeah yeah yeah but all the same yeah you guys are like banana bread is there like that's a breakfast yeah and here's the thing about nanner bread is that it's never bad no it's never bad like you can even have stale banana bread and you're like yeah it's still pretty good you know a lot of people like breakfast for dinner consider dinner for breakfast oh i do that all the time i do it all usually what i eat for for breakfast and leftovers the peak of male fitness absolutely all right all right my sides hurt let's get out of this all right is it from all the ab workouts It must be.

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