The Steve Dangle Podcast - Fuller | March 27, 2024
Episode Date: March 27, 2024On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, SDP VIP Ad Free! (00:00), Steve apologizes to John Tortorella (08:00), the ECHL’s Newfoundland Growlers and Trois-Rivières Lions are at risk of folding ...(20:30), Matt Murray is on the ice (30:00), the Leafs out shoot the Devils and lose (36:00), Laf, Hyman, and Josh Doan (52:30), Evander Kane on his healthy scratch (1:04:00), the Nashville Predators won't ever stop winning (1:16:00), San Diego (1:28:15), and Fuller (1:30:45). Join SDP VIP: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0a0z05HiddEn7k6OGnDprg/join Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/thestevedanglepodcast Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sdpvip/subscribe Visit this episode's sponsors: 🌎Get Exclusive NordVPN deal here ↣ https://nordvpn.com/DANGLE It’s risk- free with Nord’s 30-day money back guarantee! 👍 RRROLL Up To Win is back for Tims 60th Anniversary! And to celebrate our big year, you can win some big prizes. All-electric Volkswagen ID.4, sun-soaked Hilton Getaway, and cash with a daily jackpot of ten thousand dollars! Play today on the Tims App: https://www.timhortons.ca/rollup Visit https://www.betterhelp.com/sdp today to get 10% off your first month. Sign up for a one-dollar-per-month trial period at https://shopify.com/sdp Go to https://shopify.com/sdp now to grow your business–no matter what stage you’re in. For all the odds and to learn more visit https://betmgm.com/DANGLE Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://igamingontario.ca/en/player/responsible-gambling Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Must be 19+ or older to play. Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Join us on Discord: https://discord.com/invite/MtTmw9rrz7 For general inquiries email: info@sdpn.ca Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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it's great now listen there's a lot of things that we could start with today um but i think we need
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last episode steve do you want to run us through what your the crux of your argument obviously
felix sandstrom had gone into the net uh it hadn't gone well and you know you uh you were not thrilled
with the way he handled his press conference i wasn't either to be honest no uh i think you're
adorable adam for saying oh the crux of your argument no i called him an asshole right um
Because that's what he was being.
John Tortorella was being an asshole.
And that doesn't mean he necessarily always is an asshole.
The one thing I regret saying is he's an asshole.
I shouldn't have said he's an asshole.
He was being an asshole.
He was being an asshole, though.
So I don't regret that.
He was certainly being an asshole.
But basically, he was asked about Felix Sandstrom,
who he shouldn't be in the net.
He shouldn't be in the net.
No.
And I have the press conference for you if you want to run it.
It's not his fault.
You just sent me the quote.
Oh, okay.
If you click on the quote tweet.
No, so that's the original.
And that's what I wanted to play.
Oh, you want the...
Yeah, for context, if that's okay.
Yeah.
Okay, sure.
Well, yeah, rather than have me explain it.
But I think it's important that we talk about that.
Yeah, here it is.
Here it is.
No, like...
Okay.
It was Samson, but he wasn't too happy with his performance.
He just felt like he missed a couple there.
Did you feel like he could have used some more steps?
Like, he doesn't say anything.
He smacks his hands on the table twice, raises his eyebrows, and walks away.
Like, you're being a child.
I have sent you the follow-up press conference.
So, I didn't love that.
And, like, the goalies for the Philadelphia Flyers are trying.
They're trying.
Neither guy in net for them right now is supposed to be in this position.
Sammy Erson is not supposed to be the starter.
And you know what gets lost in all this?
The Philadelphia Flyers, not only did they lose their starting goalie
because he's under investigation right now,
another guy who's supposed to probably be their backup goalie this year
and last was essentially abducted by the Russian government.
Right.
Yes.
Like, neither.
Haven't seen him since he went off to the Black Sea Fleet or whatever.
He's in the KHL.
Oh, he is.
And he frigging shouldn't be.
He doesn't want to be there.
Right.
Right.
right but what's he supposed to do well he goes back to that friggin the thing about Russia he's
essentially a prisoner is traditionally their governments don't like it when you leave yeah
yeah they had a problem with it anyway Sammy Erson should not be the started goalie yep um but I gave
him his flowers a couple weeks ago he's making the best of it Felix Sandstrom's doing his best man
like there's nothing in his track record that suggests he should be even be in the NHL right
now unless everybody's injured or something completely unprecedented has happened to your
goalie core so i had a look at things and jesse had a look at things we've come to a conclusion
together sure the conclusion is john tortorella listens to the steve dangle podcast he must i
mean who doesn't jesse can you play the proof okay i've been waiting i guess it took a long
time hey sometimes you gotta set things up not everybody caught the last episode let's go over
again i think we need to do that person's a great guy so wait john tortorella sorry it's important
to mention he's from boston massachusetts okay and he likes to won the 2004 here we go here's
john torter ls apology to sandstrom i made a terrible mistake with you guys tonight when i'm
not sure i think you might have asked me about sanny uh my body language is wrong what i should
have said to you was i tried to communicate with you guys after he's trying sandy's trying we've
been uh things happen this year that put this our goaltending situation into a a little bit of a
state of flux sandy did not deserve that for me you had a perfect right to ask the question
uh he did not deserve that for me um and it was wrong so how we go about it with him
uh we're just not getting too far ahead we're just worried about this game here tonight earth
gets a start i made so this is why i apologize for calling him an asshole and versus being an
asshole like that that to me yesterday i said he didn't have to apologize and some people said well
no he did no one ever has to apologize and a lot of people don't actually the pr maxim is don't
complain and don't explain well there you go that's like pr maxim max for like what well like
anything don't explain don't just move on don't don't explain why you did it don't complain don't
complain but don't explain like don't complain about the reaction don't explain it move on
That's a bad way to go about things.
That's how so many people handle it.
Yeah, but a lot of people subscribe to that.
Like, a lot of people do that.
Yeah, a lot of bad people.
Yeah.
Yes, Jesse, that's the point I'm trying to make.
Okay.
He's not a bad person.
That's a guy who, he seemed genuinely remorseful.
He apologized to Felix Sandstrom, who didn't deserve that.
And he also said to the reporter, hey, like, you had the perfect right to ask that question.
Right.
So it wasn't a bad question.
um and the goalie didn't deserve that either yes you know Tortorella throws his hands up and
pounds the podium and walks off what are you supposed to assume well that he's frustrated
and he doesn't want this goalie yeah yeah which there's probably a little bit of truth there
but but the whole world doesn't need to know that he's trying and he's not an NHL goalie and you
don't need to embarrass him right now it's interesting because his goaltending help might
be on the way right now uh dynamo minsk uh or dynamo minsk uh announced that alexei kolosov
is leaving the team to head to north america he is a flyers prospect uh you got to at very least
see what you have with him in lehigh valley and uh he like that guy might play nhl games well if
he goes and he has like two good games in lehigh valley and i don't believe the phantoms are a very
good team this year anyway i think you're probably looking at that and going okay that's that's great
that's enough let's put him in because here's what his numbers in the khl uh the last couple
of years have been pretty good he's already played 47 games this year he's got a 907 save
percentage in the k uh 239 uh goals against average on a team that's not that good well
that's the key thing like um goalie stats with the khl it's difficult right uh they're usually
inflated so when you said 907 i'm like oh boy well he okay 907 and then in the playoffs he
had a 925 save percentage well that's really good yeah they lost but he had a 920s and he also has
great hair let me uh look at that hair oh shit like this is this is great here just i'm gonna
send it to you this is really important that we cover this no that is actually it's a fabulous
fabulous that's not salad i would call that like like angel hair pasta no that's you know like
that's that's it's just a it's a good flow this guy's got it's and and you know what he's had
he's put up consistent numbers since he was drafted third round 78th overall pick in 2021
and look at that like that's wow damn that feels like ai doesn't that look at it does like look
like ai actually he's gonna be he's gonna have a that dude puts up a slightly above league average
save percentage he's gonna have a shampoo commercial in no time 100 yeah he's put up
pretty good numbers in the in the khl 9 906 save percentage 912 and then 907 this year and then a
925 in the in the playoffs not bad oh and he's from belarus yeah got to play for the only
belarusian khl team uh yeah like i mean i wouldn't be shocked to see him in the nhl um you know
the flyers are in a really tricky spot um sandstrom shouldn't be playing games he is he's doing his
damnedest um but if he shouldn't be playing games you might as well try this guy yep give him a
couple yep um and at least see what you have with them so you know maybe some help is on the way for
the flyers and there's a race right now for the second wild card spot and the flyers are it looks
like gonna drop down into that spot and no longer be in the third place in the metro and drop down
into the race for the the wild card spot because they've struggled mightily and the only team
that's playing well out of the bottom teams of the eastern conference players playoff race is
Washington Capitals and they got two games in hand and are only uh one point back of the Flyers
so if they just win a game here they're going to leapfrog them and then now the Flyers are going
to be in a race between the Red Wings uh the Devils and the Islanders and the Buffalo Sabres
who are kind of on the outside looking in right now uh for that last spot and I worry about the
Flyers just being able to hold fort yeah it would be a shame at this point with 10 games nine games
for the flyers to go for them to lose for all 73 games that have been played right now the flyers
have been in a playoff spot and to lose it on the last 10 9 games of the season it's going to be
devastating because the expectations are you're not a playoff team but if you're in the playoffs
for 73 of the 82 games you're a playoff team and to just collapse at the end like this will be
devastating now the all the division leaders right now are extremely good teams dude tampa bay
Lightning 7-1-2 in their last 10
Capitals 7-3
in their last 10 plus they've won 3 straight
and then the two western wildcard
teams are Nashville and frigging
Vegas
what do you even play the regular season
for well in your league
you don't in my league we
don't no you play the shit out of it because it's all for
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Jesse
Jesse's a lot like
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Because he doesn't
Want the smoke
Oh
you know it would be funny to see the two of you go head to head because jesse is like
a very he's like a student of fantasy yeah i love fantasy fantasy is the best so we have steve who's
just vibes love fantasy and then jesse who's like student we'll see what wins vibes versus
student i had a pretty devastating loss in the playoffs in in my fantasy hockey league oh so
you're out yeah i had a big lead going to sunday and then i lost on the sunday steve are you still
Because, no.
Steve lost the first round.
Yours wasn't really close, though, apparently.
I lost by a point, and I literally, I would have won
had Alexander Georgiev and the Avalanche not come back
from a 4-0 lead to win in overtime.
I would, I'd literally still be in the playoffs right now.
And I would have gotten to enjoy Jack Hughes scoring two goals last night,
but I didn't even get that.
Oh, and Broad had three assists.
So with the, with that last, the eighth spot in the Eastern conference, like I don't, whoever
gets in that spot, like they're going to get it in there through like no power of their
own.
No, they're going to just back in there because everybody else kind of lost around them.
Like, here's my thing.
Carolina is seven, two and one in their last 10.
What are you trying so hard for?
Take your foot off the gas.
Let the Rangers are being idiots winning games.
Just play Philly.
What are you doing?
why are you trying to win the division for so you can play washington fuck that or tampa
red what are you doing red wings three six and one devils five and five islanders three six and
one buffalo five four and one philly four four and two nobody's trying to do it if carolina has
any remaining games against philly they should literally start their hhl affiliate you want them
to win what are you doing yeah that's not how sports works i know it's not but what no in sports
what's the goal to try to win you have a real good shot against philly which means you should
let them beat you i think i think carolina goes into any series thinking they can win i also want
to throw this out there is that it's difficult for the carolina hurricanes to do as you say
because they don't even have an ahl affiliate oh right so to have an echl affiliate well
Difficult.
Now, the Leafs may not have an ECHL affiliate for much longer.
That is a wild transition.
Kyle Cushman, friend of the show.
Also, Manny and him are good friends.
They're buddies.
Budskies.
You went to school?
Yeah, we were both in sport media together.
At TMU.
TMU.
TMU.
You're so spoiled.
There was one sports course when I went there.
Back in my day when I tied a turnip to my belt.
The three of us are RTA kids.
We are.
Yeah.
And then there's Adam, who never worked in radio.
Situation developing in the ECHL, according to Kyle Cushman.
Leafs and Habs affiliates may not finish this season, per Matthew Vachon.
The ECHL will take over the Growlers and the Lions on April 2nd
due to league debts from the owner's DSE.
Owners will then decide whether to pay them to finish the year.
that sucks that does suck and this is where i think the toronto maple leafs and the maple
leaf sports and entertainment group just by the team just by the team now just by the team how
much is that team going to cost you okay come on by the team well let me throw this out there no
all right fine okay no go ahead no if the leafs were to buy the echl growlers yeah
would they keep them in newfoundland yeah i think you do that and you know why you do that why
because it's a great brand extension and there's a lot of there's a lot of history there with the
saint john's maple leafs yes from back in the day yeah i think here's the thing about the east coast
and people forget this um fucking rules first off it fucking rules who wouldn't want to go and play
in newfoundland where everybody like loves you also the growlers great name great brand you
can't use the growlers which is a newfoundland or one of the newfoundland labrador dogs it's not a
labrador giant 200 pound yeah with the big beards on you can't use that without uh without being
there and i think the third and most important part is that um the leafs have to worry about
their branding in that area because teams like montreal and teams like boston have great
penetration in terms of fans there lots of boston fans in in the east coast especially because of
marshan and um and you know sydney crosby fans whatever if you're if you're the toronto maple
leafs that's a good market for you it is i just i'm thinking about it from a logistical standpoint
there's a lot of back and forth
between the Marlies and the Growlers
and you're flying those guys every time.
And I just wonder from...
You can't put them around here.
I badly want them to stay in Newfoundland.
I do.
But if it's going to be an ECHL team
that's not making you a ton of money,
it might as well be an ECHL team
that's not making you a ton of money close by.
It doesn't cost you much.
Like, I hope they stay in Newfoundland.
They can't put them in Toronto.
They can't put them in Toronto,
but can you put them in not Belleville because the Sens have a team there can you put them I mean
geez there's no shortage of towns in the GTA put them somewhere put them in the west end put them
in the I don't think the GTA is the right market I think you have to I think one of the things is
that um and again obviously there's debt so it's probably hard for them to make money but um one of
the things you got to look at is what's the market marketing asset value so in for instance I'll use
formula one uh red bull formula one costs red bull global a fortune yes okay they might be they
might be profitable now because there's a cost cap but for the last 15 20 years that they've been in
the sport it's cost them a fortune why are they in the sport though to sell wonder bread to sell
energy drinks yes and and that's why they are so hyped on the team being good is it sells more
energy drinks worldwide and i think if the toronto maple leafs are smart you go uh i'm sure we can
write the flights off were Maple Leafs
Sports and Entertainment. Right, yes.
You know what I mean? It's not like they're like, oh,
how will we be profitable this year? I'm just pointing it out.
I'm just pointing it out. I know. It sounds like you're Scrooge McDuck
over here. No, I wasn't. Why do you not
want hockey in Newfoundland? No, if I was
Scrooge McDuck, I'd say, fly
them wherever they want. Jesse, should we call
Terry Ryan? Move the team farther away. We should call Terry
Ryan and see what he thinks about that. Yeah, let's bring him back on the show.
We should. And tell him what Steve
said. Terry, Steve doesn't like your team.
What do you say? How much does
friggin' Shorzy pay. He should
buy them. Yeah, he probably should. Anyway,
I hope Maple Leaf Sports jumps in there and gets it.
I have no thought that they
will, but I do hope that they will.
You can't have your ECHL affiliate not
finish the season. I think that's a tad
ridiculous. Yes. Especially for
the Leafs. Yeah, and there's a lot of money
involved here, obviously.
The vote happens on
April 2nd. The owners are going to decide
on whether if they want to cover the costs of
keeping this team alive. And there
There is a buyer in place for the Quebec team, but there wasn't one for the Leafs team.
And that deal with, I believe, Stephen Leon, I believe his name was, when I was reading the article,
he was in line to buy the team and cover the debts and all that stuff.
But that sale didn't pass in time for the March 2nd deadline.
And the reason they're in this situation, let's not let the bad guys go here.
Deacon Sports and Entertainment, who owns both of those teams that are folding,
they failed to pay rent on the in the team in quebec they weren't paying their rent there and
they got into debts up to one million dollars a couple years ago it seems like this organization
isn't well run they're gonna be folding very soon a couple years ago uh their senior management was
also accused of harassment in leaked documents so it's i didn't know any of that yeah maybe it'll
be great for mlse to be like finally these guys are gone right well and we keep saying mlse uh
the habs also maybe both teams should especially hold on hold on does jeff molson have money a
little bit for them it looks like they have a buyer you know and that that sale just hasn't
been able to go through so the league is gonna have to cover those debts but the growlers on
the other hand don't have a buyer in line so mlse hey step up well steve's gonna get in there and
he's gonna take them out of newfoundland and he's gonna i don't care where i play as long as it's
not newfoundland the big city slicker yeah give me your team piss this fish you know where steve's
Steve, you're going to put them right in Ajax.
Yeah.
Ajax growlers.
No, he's going to call them the wildcats,
so they compete with the whippy wildcats.
Whoa, whoa.
Don't go giving me ideas.
Steven, they're going to play on your front lawn.
Nobody can come to the games except me.
You're going to have to send them on.
It's his pool.
No, they play on his pool in his backyard.
Yes.
It's a golden pool.
There you go.
It's a golden-lined pool.
Nobody can watch the game.
Full of coins.
Steve, I'm glad you're learning so much from me.
Yes.
Yeah.
You know?
Listen, sometimes you've got to mentor people on how to be a billionaire.
Let me twist my mustache.
There you go.
Love that.
No, I hope they stay in Newfoundland.
I really do.
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Now, boys, I know you made fun of me for talking about Matt Murray last episode.
I'm going to beat you up.
But he did practice.
He sure did.
Now, if he was to play, the Leafs would have to have a lot of goaltending injuries,
and it would have to be late in the playoffs.
Yes.
But he is ramping up to be healthy.
Yes, this is a good thing.
This is a great thing.
There's 11 games left.
Yeah.
Like, we've already gone through this.
No, we haven't.
And I'm just telling you how cool I am.
I just want you to know that.
If he goes on a conditioning stint on April 3rd,
he could go the whole conditioning stint
and then come back in time for the playoffs.
And then it's, hey, we got a free fourth goalie.
Yeah.
Whoopee.
This is awesome.
Maybe even fifth.
Sure.
There's no...
Why would you assume he's better than Dennis Hildeby?
you know what i mean because of nhl experience you would you would say that okay but how about
hill to be over the last year has playing hockey games experience yeah like i don't know i just
i i have a hard time envisioning matt murray coming back and being good um like i feel like
the road to recovery is a long one but whatever like we're arguing over fourth or fifth here and
And if the Leafs are in a position to play Matt Murray,
that means they got really deep in the playoffs
and also a lot of guys got injured.
Yeah.
Or it's one good thing and one bad thing.
Or Samsonov hurt game one.
Wool hurt later in game one.
Matt, Martin Jones also hurt in game one.
Now you have the decision between Matt Murray and Dennis Hildeby.
right yeah it's just so many uh and what about petrozzelli well because matt murray also hurt
because they had rock paper scissors but they bumped their hands and now they're hurt so
you know yeah so matt murray the i think the dregger was saying he needs to go back to the
now that he's practiced he's go back to the doctor and they need to check on his hips
and see if the hips are all good and then after that he'll be cleared again and then so this is
a long process but it's good to see matt murray on the ice like he's gonna play nhl games next
season yeah that's awesome and we weren't sure that he would yeah if somebody signs them which
i assume somebody will because how they like influx the goalie position is you need as many
bodies as you can i agree i agree yeah i wouldn't be surprised to see him sign here something cheap
oh yeah that'd be great league pittsburgh oh kyle oh that does make a lot of kyle loves this guy
yeah kyle kyle loves his guys he returns to pittsburgh you nailed it yeah yeah jesse damn
He's going back.
No one's competing with that.
That's true.
Another cup run.
Crosby and Murray.
According to our good friend David Alter,
Ilya Samsonov, Martin Jones, and Mitch Marner
are stepping on the ice to do some skating.
There's no real practice today.
Wow, they're really digging deep at the goalie position.
Well, no.
They got Mitch taken.
I know.
It's crazy, isn't it?
Yeah, no.
So Mitch is actually skating and practicing, which is good.
And it is not a practice day today
because of the amount of hockey the team's played.
It's more of like an individual skills if you want to sort of thing.
Sure.
Good to see Mitch back on skates, though.
Yeah, he's been skating for a few days now.
I think he's going to be fine.
He hasn't practiced with the team yet, though.
Yeah, I don't like how coy they're being with his injury.
He's got a high ankle sprain.
Well, like Sheldon Keefe saying a few days ago,
he's day-to-day from being day-to-day.
Sheldon Keefe trying to joke doesn't land?
Like, I watched that one.
No, you're right.
I don't know if you guys saw those clips, too,
because they'd run him on SportsCenter or whatever.
and like him making doing little bits it doesn't work he's not like a jokey guy like i feel like
a lot of people go uh are you gonna kill me yeah that's the exact reaction i think the press has
sitting there like paul maurice when paul maurice is being funny it's like oh yeah that's good
that's funny that's coach sports funny you see the uh or john cooper john cooper's another yeah
Were you the one who...
With a Southern lawyer charm.
Yeah.
Oh, my God, Sean Cooper.
What are you saying?
Just make me nauseous.
But no, you see the Paul Murray, Sam Reinhardt stuff?
Were you the one who sent it to me or was it Drew?
It was probably Drew then, yeah.
Yeah, he was talking about Sam Reinhardt hitting 50 goals
and he's like, oh, you know, incredibly hardworking player,
super talented, unless you're looking to sign him as a free agent
and then he's got an attitude problem.
That's pretty good.
That's really funny.
That's a good line.
That's really funny.
That's a good line.
A good joke from Prison Rules Paul.
Love him.
I like that.
I hate his team a lot.
Keith, it lands kind of flat.
Yeah.
Well, I think it's because we're used to seeing Sheldon Keith in one attitude, and it's a bad one.
Well, right?
He's just usually just, and not a bad attitude, he's just grumpy.
His captain's John Tavares.
What do you think is John Tavares' go-to joke?
Like, all right, guys, what do you hear of this one?
And then he tells a knee slapper.
Can you give us one?
As John Tavares.
Okay, we're doing this as like improv.
Okay, let's name the item that John Tavares will be joking about.
All right, Adam's Mitch, I'm Austin.
We're sitting in three locker, in the dressing room, three stalls apart.
Like, what do you say?
Hey, John, you're the older experience vet.
Tell us a fun story about life on the road.
Well, here, wait, no, I got one.
Okay, all right.
What did the kale say to the lettuce at the end of the party?
What do you say, John?
All right, let's leaf.
stop it
no that's a that's a john taveras joke that's a better joke than like that's really quick
actually i came up with that let's i think jt would give us something like that that's pretty
good i thought it was a it's a pretty good one i came up with that one in oshawa oh my god
so if you didn't watch the game last night or you're not a leaf fan um if you're devil fan
you loved it jake allen stood on his head the leafs had over 70 scoring chances i think it
worked out to close to shot attempts shot attempts excuse me although i would have believed yeah um
shot attempts but i think it was close to 50 shots and 45 it was a the leafs absolutely dominated
and jake allen said no and the thing that that sunk the leafs were defensive lapses and it was
interesting because Matthews and Nylander
after the game were not
happy with the team
and Matthews called it an immature
game and so did Sheldon Keefe
and Sheldon Keefe used that word here's what he
said because I guess in the dressing room Matthews and
Nylander voiced their displeasure to the dressing
room which you don't expect
Willie to do that I can see it from Matthew
but Willie's usually picture it
no right yeah he
said he said they've got to
be the example John Tavares has been the example
for us he's been outstanding for us for a long
period of time he himself got carried away tonight that is interesting and he did he said that's our
captain so if that's going to happen well like the rest of the bench is now well we're just going to
make it up as we go when you do that you open the door for the opposition to have a good night and
they did that and i thought the last goal at the end of the third period there that's indicative
of our second and third periods now sheldon went on to say that this has happened a lot and i think
this quote is also key he's right um so he was asked if it was a one-off game he said well
it has happened a lot to our for our group over the years uh and i'm talking about the experienced
people and that came back tonight and i thought the game invited it it's 25 shots everybody's
feeling great you get lots of puck touches uh you think it's going to happen again and you're
going to stay with it i don't know if anybody's ever got 75 shots in a game before i don't think
that happens usually things adjust and the opposition pushes back the game kind of tidies
up a little bit but i just thought we got incredibly sloppy careless and that's disappointing
but to your point that hasn't been us we haven't played that way for quite some time so i thought
our guys got a little too excited a little too carried away and we'll tighten up back here real
quick like listen they were missing a lot of guys and i didn't hear that as an excuse once which is
nice because in the past it would have been yeah like um you know i think coaching
what what how do you evaluate a coach like i know a lot of people don't like him right now
but there are so many things that happened in that game where i'm like sheldon keith didn't
tell you to do any of those things no that max domey pass on the 5-3 goal that's the one that's
the one that i got the most graceful by the way what kills me is he'd had a great game up to that
point yeah he had he had been a great game but at no level of hockey do they tell you to spin around
blind past the puck to the middle of the ice and that's one of the best like in terms of playmaking
vision he's literally at five on five one of the most productive playmakers in the entire
national hockey league yeah and his vision was looking at the boards and passing behind his head
it was ridiculous by the numbers has one of the most gifted playmaking minds in the sport and he
did that like you you talk about the leaders on your team like shouldn't isn't that one of them
he's not like a kid anymore he's been in the league or he was drafted nine years ago he's
been to the conference finals six teams yeah he's been around the chances he's had i know i've harped
done this before how did he get 28 goals how i uh oh my god the amount of chances i wish he would
bury but um you know just that uh nice holmberg robertson line please don't subject us to us
subject us to that ever again um jake mccabe has got a uh pull his head out of you know where he's
had a horrible last couple games and he's had a pretty good season but man his bad games are
horrible um lilligrant i thought had a pretty good game except for on i think it was the third
goal he decided to drop into the butterfly in the middle of his goalie's crease wool allowed a bad
goal and uh i'm trying to remember like what they all were it was just it was a game lost in the
moments and that's when that's how the playoffs are won yeah can we do a freeze frame of this one
Because this feels like a moment where the Leafs and Bruins, it's 1-1 in the third.
Look at this! Matthews has nine shots!
Yeah, nine shots. That's the graphic on screen.
And this is, it's 1-1 in the third period.
And this is the mistake that Jake Gardner makes, you know, Justin Hall makes.
Here, it's Max Domi, unfortunately.
It's the spin around, I'm not looking, and just in this moment where you're looking for a goal,
you make this ugly play, and we can watch it here.
The puck's going around the boards.
It comes up to Max Domi, who's around the blue line.
He gets it along the boards.
He's facing the boards.
And what he decides to do with the puck while facing the boards is spin without looking and send it right to the middle of the ice to Timo Meier.
Wow.
And you see Timmons backing up.
Timmons, who is an offense-first guy with 320 to go in a game that you're losing, is like, nope, don't give me that.
and and and or you're trying to get it to benoit hey i have a crazy suggestion
off the boards to the best goal scorer on the planet whose defender is skating away from him
he received the puck on his backhand he could have just flipped it back yep yeah matthews the puck
went right over matthew's stick unfortunately he couldn't grab it there and domi just decides to
send it right to the middle of the zone without looking at anything there's no chance he starts
on the top line next game like just like from that alone right like if you're looking well i don't
know maybe that's too extreme but like if you're looking to send a message yep there's no way he
starts so it's you know it's tape to tape to timo meyer who takes it that's curtis lazar oh sorry
lazar goes the other end yeah lazar takes it he goes uh all the way to the other end jack hughes
jack hughes gets it one on one on the goaltender goal that's game that's got to be the worst like
three four seconds of like Max Domi's life that that reminds me of the giveaway and the goal
that's a Montreal series that's Travis Dermott that's what I'm saying that's uh Alex Galchenyuk
yeah that's Galchenyuk yeah and like you talk about a series where I mean through seven games
cumulatively they were the better team yep but those mistakes they bite you in the ass come the
playoffs and I like if we're screaming about this Sheldon Keefe is talking to him right now
hopefully not making jokes um i don't i don't think he is no and not today he he's beating
this out of him right now and he he knows like if we know he knows that you can't make these
mistakes and i hope that come playoff time this isn't happening not not not to uh have people who
don't deserve it catching strays but if william kneelander is accosting you for not paying
attention to your defensive details yes uh maybe pull your head out of your ass yeah yeah and and
I think I think it's good to see William Nylander stepping up I think it's good to see Austin
Matthews stepping up I think if you watched the H uh the Amazon documentary you could see John
Tavares you know trying to get super intense in that last intermission before the last period of
the game and and that is not I wouldn't say that that's John's forte I don't think John Tavares
would tell you that he's the most character uh charismatic guy what John does and what was great
for this team and what is great is he leads by example well he's supposed to be the level head
he's he's the level head um and and and listen the skill set is diminishing but he's still an
extraordinarily effective player yeah and I think he'll come back next year he's one of those guys
that whatever his weakness is,
he seems to come back and try to improve on it.
Eventually, time negates it.
For sure.
But I think he's done a very, very good job.
I don't think he had a great game last night.
No.
But I think it's important,
and I've said this for a year and a half now,
I think Matthews needs to be the captain here pretty soon.
It's going to happen.
Stepping up and talking to the team
after a loss like that is captainship.
And he needs to do that.
It takes more than one.
Of course.
And I think there's probably more to it than that.
I also think this is a great reminder in a low stakes game for the Leafs, right?
Because they are probably going to finish where they're going to finish, right?
Unless there's some gigantic losing streak.
The Lightning are right there charging and they have two games.
The Lightning and Leafs have two games head to head.
Okay.
So there's a shot that the Leafs could fall down to a wildcard spot here.
Including the second last game of the season.
Yeah, but so I outlined this in the video yesterday.
if you bring up the standings if the leaves do fall to that wild card spot i don't think it
matters you're okay with it well because no matter what they're not going to have home ice advantage
in the first round you're either going to be the i mean there's a super off chance they pass the
panthers or the bruins i don't they're not passing florida it's not gonna let's rule that out so
they're either going to be the third seed which would uh start on the road or they're going to
be the wild card team if you could scroll down just a little bit um so as the third seed they're
either playing the bruins or panthers as wild card seed there's a really good chance they either play
the bruins or panthers because the rangers are the top team in the east right now um or you know
there's an off chance maybe you play one of the metro teams which honestly you might even prefer
yeah like it just i whether whether they i mean the worst part of the leafs dropping down to the
wildcard spot would be uh they obviously haven't played very well and guaranteed no home ice
throughout the playoffs basically well and that too i mean as the third seed you're probably not
getting it anyway um i i think you're beyond worrying about that i think you just need to
play your best whether you're at home or on the road and i don't know if you've seen the leafs
home record versus their road record um good that they don't have uh they were one in five
they finally won a round last year they were one in five at home yep that's unfathomable why is
that why yeah you said it yesterday i don't remember the fans oh the fans yeah i was
it was that you were being sarcastic i was being it's just such a hard market to play
it's the wave oh man you got what you deserved
We need a Maticam.
That's so funny.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, there's a – listen, I'm not worried about last night's game.
I think you had – I think the third thing I do want to talk about
with last night's game, though, is Joseph Wall.
And that's two games in a row, first shot goes in.
Keith even mentioned it in the – I'm sorry, but we can't –
that's not acceptable.
It's not okay.
We literally cannot do it.
And if you see his press conference afterwards, you see how remorseful he is.
What I'm concerned about with Joe Wall is that he's got the Jack Campbell syndrome
him up he's too hard on himself well because you do move on from a game like that you need to
i thought he was the only reason they were even in the carolina game yeah um and like allowing the
first shot i mean the first shot in the carolina game was jake mccabe going between his legs like
in front of them like what the what are you doing sometimes you need to save steve i agree i agree
and last night the hughes break away they could have used to say there's plenty i don't i don't
care that it's a knuckler yeah you got to make a save jd bunk has had a meme um it was that uh um
joseph wool lets in a bad goal and it's like oh it's okay you sweetie pie and then uh ilia
samsonov allows a bad goal hello human resource yeah yeah um and that is kind of how he's treated
um i mean wool's got the net here um a little bit um until sammy recovers i'm whatever who do they
i think we are it's gotta be good i think i think adam's right in that people are a lot harder on
samson off than wool yeah like the the what was mike johnson's line tim wakefield would be proud
of that knuckler the first one that went it was like yeah it's a knuckler but you want to save
that early in the game you can track them like you're allowed to stop them you're allowed to
like and it wasn't like it was through traffic it was one on those two guys there and it was
then you the goalie and i think you need to save that it was a the shot was from far enough it
wasn't at like lightning speed like by the way like your goalie to get in front i think it's
also important that people know that joseph wool is not a child he's 25 he's older than you think
yeah yeah and sam's on 2016 draft pick yeah so it's it's like take some criticism he can take
some criticism he'll be okay and and i actually like that sam he's not going back in next game
because of the whatever he you know he got banged up or whatever in the last game there's no reason
to rush him i think there should be no game time decisions in late i know but but but more than that
i think you need to get wall to sort things out he missed a good chunk of the season with the high
ankle sprain he was playing well before that let him sort it out again as i said to you guys i
think these are relatively low stakes games um you know obviously you want to lock up the playoffs
since i get that i understand that but get him in there and get as many reps as possible okay
you had a bad night well you're going in tomorrow yep and and okay stop the first shot tomorrow
let's see you do it and i think that that is a confidence thing joseph wall didn't forget how
to play goaltender it's all between the ears and he can sort this out very very in his six games
since returning from his injury.
Joseph Wall is an 8-84 and 2-4.
That's pretty bad.
He needs to sort that out.
That's not good.
And tomorrow you got the Capitals who are hot
and you killed them last time you played them.
So it's going to be a tight game.
Ovechkin-Hattrick?
Tight game against a hungry team.
I friggin' hope not, Jesse.
Well, okay, here's what we need to do.
We need Willie to get on the mic and say not tonight.
Because apparently that works.
And then Ovi will just be limited to one.
Yes.
Or two, since the stakes are a hat-trick.
Yeah, yeah.
That will be the victory.
They stopped Hyman from getting two.
They stopped him from getting two.
It wasn't until the next night when he scored against the Sens,
because he's still a Leaf.
And they broke in in the middle of the game to announce it.
You guys are nerds for that.
What do you mean we're nerds for that?
You're nerds.
I'm upset.
I would like, for one time in my life,
to have a Leafs home broadcast.
You got it yesterday.
that is a bunch of homers who like the leaf yeah and i often like i often when i watch hockey i do
not get that right that is what i'm saying and listen if they're playing it's two canadian teams
and it's on the national broadcast you're fine but you're playing carolina it's okay to say a
regional game can you imagine okay imagine this jack edwards i won't jack edwards in boston going
going wow that's so great that tyler sagan's having such a great year during a boston bruins
game do you see do you think how do you think boston reacts to that there's a former bruin
in this game and i wish him well you sound like cosby there's a whoa
you sound like you're jello pudding
jesse i don't know if you've heard a nesson broadcast oh wow yeah it does you do sound
like him he says the brunes the brunes they're one syllable the brunes what did he say what
there was one play where it's like he practically
killed him or something like that.
Is it Polak or something like that?
Oh,
when Andreas Janssen,
they stopped the play because he was injured,
but he was like, he was
injured, but only sort of injured.
I mean, the player's not unconscious.
Jesse, that's what he sounds like.
You got to work on that.
It's a little too close to the sun.
You don't want to be doing that one.
They don't know what the jazz is all about.
No, no, no.
You're flying too close to the sun, Steve.
No.
You're girl bossing a little too close to the sun.
I think you stick with the JT, you know, your wheelhouse.
But, you know, I just, I think it's okay.
It's all right to say, listen, the Leafs are the Canadian team here.
Don't laugh.
Oh, yeah.
Don't encourage them.
With the broadcast thing.
Yeah, I would like just a home broadcast.
It'd be cool.
Okay, now, for no reason at all, I would like to tell you something.
Alexis Lafreniere, Ranger, having a good year this year.
47 points in 72 games.
Gosh, dude.
How many goals and how many assists in his career does Alexis Lafreniere have?
Just guess.
He's probably at under 100.
Can you give us the amount of games he's played?
288.
Can you believe that, by the way?
Goals, I'm going to say 69.
And points, I'm going to say...
I asked assists.
Wait, no, that's too much.
Asked assists.
Assists?
Yeah.
In 200 and whatever?
88.
I'm going to say he has 58.
Okay, Jesse.
288 games.
Steve said 58 assists.
And 69 goals.
I don't care about the goals.
You asked about the assists.
No, I asked for both.
Oh, you want both.
I want goals and assists.
Oh, goals and assists.
Okay.
I'm going to say 58 and 58.
Okay.
I thought you said 69.
What's your new answer?
58 and 58.
Oh, okay.
58 and 58.
i'm gonna say he has 47 goals okay and
65 assists so i'll tell you something jesse you came closest on the assists
steve had the goal number but he moved off of it alexis lacornier as of this recording has 69 goals
and 69 assists oh that's amazing that's a nice career thank you ryan mead by the way uh one of
our rangers friends uh who does the blue shirts breakaway but wait why did he mention it because
it's why is that noteworthy because it's the sex number steve oh oh yeah crazy oh crazy it's the
sex number um i also wanted to mention that uh um there was a couple instances last night that
were pretty special zach hyman getting his 51st goal by the way zach hyman a that's his 200th goal
of all of his entire career wow wait wait wait so 26 25 of zach hyman's goals have been scored
this year the dude who made his nhl debut in 2016 that's right zachary hyman zachary hyman
drafted by the panthers yes he scored sorry he he scored over now a quarter of his career goal
this year this year yeah zach hyman 51 goals the hockey player he has 200 goals in 569 games
and 192 assists to boot pretty cool i don't think i'm sending kyle dubas a card this christmas
i think come on no i'm not doing it we need to stop no we don't we need to start at the time
at the time it made sense his career most goals at that time was 21 if if he had played the full
season in 2020 2021 which nobody did right he played 43 games he had 15 goals so you double
that and he has about 30 28 ish if i want to be miserable that's my priority i i get that but
let's not be incorrect about that there's a lot of people at the cleaners about this nobody at
the time wanted to give Zach Hyman eight years and 5.5 million dollars there was actually an
individual and his name was Kenneth Holland no I mean I mean Leafs fans and Leafs management
nobody thought that that would have been a good deal if they went the extra year and gave him
the exact same amount that Edmonton was willing to pay like he would have stayed if we offered
him that if the Leafs offered him that but like we didn't want to do that and what did I tell you
getting that draft pick no should have got the damn draft pick Kyle should have got the damn
draft pick what if what if this is just part of my morning process and you need to be nicer to me
no no if you expect me to be nice to you on the show then you're on the wrong show damn you're
right yeah it's true that's listen it's only not why we're here it's not to be nice we're here to
bully this guy there's a reason it's not called steve dangle and friends
hey we're only here to toughen you up because actually we're not much nicer than the internet
is yeah so i think if we're grading on a curve here jesse and i are doing we're like the nicest
of people on Earth in comparison to the internet.
On your Earth? Yeah, fat soaps.
I can't stand
Yelly Screamy Guy.
What is he doing on my TV?
Yeah, boo
hiss. Food is so good.
Food is good. It's so frustrating.
Dude, it's also your
dad. Everybody gains weight when they
have a kid. Unless you don't.
Good for you, but most people do.
I'm going to get somebody going,
actually Adam I didn't do that
I went to the
that's great man that's cool
it's my Instagram DMs
from the but actually crowd I love that
I'll show you but actually I got a good but
actually my dad
so is a drummer yes we've talked about
this and he met I think
the drummer is Neil Pert
from Russia
very cool by the way Canadian legend
I think it was Neil Pert
and he got a picture with him
And he was so happy to get a picture.
That's pretty cool.
And the picture comes back.
And my dad goes, oh, my God.
I didn't realize how much weight I'd gained.
And he immediately lost like 40 pounds.
Oh, good for him.
Because of that photo.
And that's also good for his health.
Yes.
And we just did baby pictures.
And that is my Neil Peart photo.
Okay.
I have been such a good boy ever since we got those photos back.
I'm like, oh, shit.
See, I don't think you look that bad.
I think that's you.
I feel great.
I feel awesome.
But I'm a big boy.
well um i i want to tell you this so the zach hyman thing was great uh josh don't uh
arizona coyotes so shane don't traitor to the leafs because he's pick a side yeah he goes down
to the coyotes who are they okay yeah and goes i'm gonna watch my watch my kid listen if you're
gonna do it right you have to be like colin and gregory campbell and completely disavow yourself
of your son you cannot defend your son under any circumstances especially with the officiating in
nhl internally no i think if uh there's a bad call you cry and shit your pants and you tanya
harding the ref and you try to wreck their entire career oh sorry sorry that's that's uh only a minor
exaggeration of something that actually happened and is documented in real life and he's 71 and
still has his job with the league and nothing matters jesse i just sent you a clip um of the
josh stone's second goal because he is the first player in coyote's history to score two goals in
one in his first game which i think is a kind of a neat record to have um but also i want you to
just have a look at the booth where his parents are sitting screen grab when um when he scores
the second goal uh i don't know who is this i don't know who this person is but he's enormous
holy shit so there's shane doan former nhl player and here's muscle natty muscle natty
is he natty he's daddy bro he's enormous but the the tarps are off that's a lot of steroids yeah
like he looks like the father oh yeah i don't know this man no he looks like the father hugging
his son shane doan yes like that is great job son who is he jacked burt kreischer like what
look at that look at that his pecs have pecs and his abs have abs also who let him take his shirt
off in the arena why aren't you on monday night raw sir like what look at that he's huge who is
this enormous man i've stood next to shane doan he is not small no like he that okay on top of
being the most jacked person in the world this dude is also like at least six four or five yeah
he's huge that's crazy he's huge and he's got he's tatted up and he's tatted up in the most
painful spot which is right next to your underarm no that the other one yeah like the inside here
tell me about it holy moly yeah that was my first one he's like give me more tax all right steve get
your shirt off yeah all right we are the same here by the way he's nicely tanned too just a
couple husky guys you know what i mean yeah he's got that arizona tan yeah holy shit it's good
man what a good time by the end of the show i'll tell you who this is yeah you'll find out yeah
i'll find out all right i like that sleuthing jesse um also i want to shout out uh shane
and josh from the post game broadcast where he handed his son the game puck that's so cool you
can see it here he he has the game puck in his hand and he gives it over to his son is there
any particular reason why um he's such a traitor um because uh shane don't he's like why isn't he
wearing a Leafs jersey I know he's getting Leaf paychecks and he's wearing a Coyotes jersey I
don't know sorry Shane it's a it's a very nice moment it is it's that that reminds me of the
time I scored um the 8-3 goal um in a charity game and Eric Lindros got the puck and he gave
it to my dad my dad gave it to me and he gave it back to my dad we are the same me and Josh
Steve what are your thoughts on so Matt if you want to bring this up so if you'll see in the
background they're at Mullet Arena right and that's that's the lower bowl of Mullet no that's
the bowl oh i'm sorry i'm sorry i'm sorry jesse
we'll move on i was doing i was doing an arena what was you what were you gonna say what were
you gonna say no all right we you gotta say it jesse i'm gonna laugh it's hilarious what's next
we gotta laugh at jesse's joke oh jesse what's next on the doc no we're waiting on you no i'm
ready oh no steve loves arizona and i won't make an arena joke at all jesse there's my funny bone
tickle it tickle it tickle it tickle it give a little tickle the weenus isn't that yeah i think
it's called weenus yeah weenus is right give his weenus a little tickle weenus is on the elbow i'm
sorry for wrecking you that's all right it wasn't worth it i didn't mean to do it uh hey how do we
sell stuff jesse uh you're not jesse yeah no that's uh he definitely said steve i said how
do we sell stuff i don't know jesse how do we want to continue steven yeah uh we use shopify
oh okay wow yeah what else can you tell me about setting up shopify for small business well in the
store that i built um i wanted to make it on a platform that was dependable that had um a really
Something like 10% of all e-commerce is done using the Shopify platform.
That's true, yeah.
Are you just guessing the ad read?
No, he's right.
No, I've done the ad read before.
Steve, can you...
Okay, that's all right.
Here, sorry.
Man, Steve's so...
My name's on the show.
I figured I could talk.
Arrogant.
Arrogant.
Ooh, I'm a big, yelly, screamy man.
I like the leaves.
Yeah, Shopify.
This guy.
Shopify, 10% of all e-commerce...
Yeah, we got that.
Using that great platform that I built our shop on.
He's just recycling the same line he knows.
Now, what you do need to know is...
The job of a producer is a hard one,
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Hey, you know who's not happy?
And it's not really surprising.
Evander Cain, who was scratched.
And by the way, I brought it up on Monday and I said,
hey, that scratching for an injury awfully looks like a healthy scratch.
Have a look at this.
I just sent you the clip.
Here's how you know it's not an injury.
um and listen i uh i respect the way he handles it i never expect a player to be happy whenever
someone's like oh players not happy that they're scratched i'm like well do you expect them to be
i don't expect them to be can you imagine why this is great i don't know i get to eat chili
popcorn with my buds every day in the show is a blessing like i don't give a shit no no you don't
want like i think kipper said something when nick robertson was saying he's like i was pissed off
about being sent down and he was like you know it's about the team or whatever and where i disagree
with kipper and again i didn't play in the nhl is do i expect 22 year old player to be thrilled
that they were sent down no i want him to be mad yeah doesn't mean he's not a good member of the
team let's have a look at evander kane just getting back in after having a maintenance game
or a maintenance day uh i feel good i feel good yeah was it just a build-up of things that
Sometimes just to have one game off
gives you an extra few days to rest and be ready.
I guess so, yeah.
They tried to protect him, eh?
They tried to make it seem like it was an injury.
So that's where he loses me a little.
Like, okay, he could have handled it worse.
I don't think he handled it bad.
But I mean, they did try to protect him.
Well, okay.
He didn't score a goal.
I don't think he scored a goal this month.
No, I agree.
like listen they tried to protect him and then he said those things and what do we all know
no that it was um it was that he it was performance-based well so was that effective
or ineffective like gene principe saying it was a maintenance day right and he handed it to him
it's gene gene parmesan no gene principe gene is the first of all how dare you second of all
He's the nicest man.
He is.
The nicest man, Gene Principe, with his props.
His wacky props.
I love them.
He's always got a good intro.
He does have a good intro.
And I just want to say, listen, I don't expect Evander Kane to be upset.
Sorry, not upset.
Totally.
It's not a criticism.
I'm just saying they gave him an out and he fumbled it.
Yeah.
Well, okay.
Let me ask the two of you something.
Sure.
Let's say you're in the same position.
do you go along with the team thing or do you come out and say well
do you make an allusion to it like i don't know you gotta remember you're like extremely competitive
yeah well this is the thing right like it's not like sean couturier took his scratch from
torts very well either um these guys want to be in the lineup like i'm not i'm not saying he did
anything wrong jesse maybe he doesn't want to be protected he wants to be in the damn lineup i
think the way Toronto handled the TJ Brody scratching is the way Knobloch should have
handled the Evander Kane scratching okay that you're more open and honest about the situation
in that hey you need a mental day off more so than hey you have lingering injuries which is true
yeah like we Evander Kane had a bad injury like this season like he's he's always injured all of
them are injured you can always say that but you should also acknowledge that you haven't been
playing well and to the media like the coach should acknowledge that the player hasn't been
playing well and that he also needs a day off on a back-to-back too like it made sense if you if
you ever like overhear a conversation between two nhl players like literally fly on the wall which
i've had the opportunity to do they're always complaining about something because dude they're
they play a contact sport a hundred times a year if they're lucky you you play 82 games for the
opportunity to play like i don't know 25 more and don't forget the seven or eight that you play
in the year yeah and uh you know um some try hard is going to destroy you during an
intra squad game yeah like uh i'm trying to make the ahl from the e so i'm gonna light up this nhl
player yeah like mark stone uh what's his name from uh from uh the sins no you're talking about
a preseason game i'm talking about uh someone in the sen system like clark macarthur knocked
clark macarthur into another dimension after he had a concussion bobby ryan fought him because
he's like you dumbass what are you doing i don't even remember the kid's name well i don't think
he played much i've uh i don't know about the sense that he on the nhl he didn't um i i like
when players get upset about stuff like that i think the coach wins um and i know players hate
it um i think first off let me ask you this is a benching or scratching more what's the more
i don't want to say humane because i don't want to insinuate that it's inhumane
but what's the dignified dignified what's the more dignified thing to do healthy scratch
or bench a benching is like if you did something bad mid-game although torts is dressed guys and
just not played them yeah but he's the only one yeah yeah i think that's that's a torts thing
yeah i forgot about that yeah well i i think healthy scratch because unless you're john
tortorella um you're not putting your team at a disadvantage you're putting someone else in that
uh roster spot whereas if you uh bench a guy well now you're playing with a short bench
sure okay putting everyone else at a disadvantage okay all right jesse what do you think what would
you rather have i think it's the the healthy scratching right yeah it's the more dignified
one yeah yeah you healthy scratch you don't embarrass them on the ice in front of everybody
you know and all the tv cameras and and all the other players on the on the ice you know you
healthy scratch and what they did here i think was the right thing to do with evander kane
and i think i don't know his attitude about it should have been a little better because
if you look at the numbers it's understandable if you look at what his body has been through
it makes sense to not play back-to-back against the senators like are you that upset you didn't
have to play the Sens in Ottawa on Sunday I think these guys are proud yeah it's true but I don't
know I think there's a like a take a step back Kane realize you needed a maintenance day and
this is okay and you're gonna survive you'll be with the Edmonton Oilers you know probably not
in a top six role going into the playoffs but it's fine you know these guys look at the schedule
and if you're struggling if you're uh historically in your career a goal scorer
and you look at the Sens coming up on the schedule.
You want to take advantage?
Hard not to think it might be cookie night.
Hey, you know who it's been cookie night for?
Connor Brown.
Oh, yeah, man.
Good for him.
What is that, four points in the last six games?
Three of them goals?
Three goals.
I knew it.
Like, I mean, listen.
I didn't.
I'll be straight up about that.
I think that this is rough.
I didn't think his career was over.
I think he's had an extraordinarily difficult recovery from an injury.
Yep.
I always say good players don't forget how to play hockey.
Connor Brown is a good player.
Yep.
Who's been betrayed by his body.
Sure.
And that happens to basically every pro athlete.
Will he ever return to what he was?
I don't know.
But he's a contributor.
Whereas for the first nearly 60 games of the season,
and he was out there running around
and trying to keep the puck out of his own net
instead of doing anything productive offensively.
Connor Brown's a guy I'll cheer for, man.
Oh, you can't not root for that.
No, I just told that story before.
I was at a playoff game, half in the bag,
and some lady with short hair comes up to me.
She stops me, and I'm like,
well, put on your sober face.
And she goes, oh, you're Dangle.
And I go, yep.
She goes, I'm Ann Brown.
I'm Connor's mom.
I remember that.
She was just so proud of Connor frigging Brown.
And now here he is.
He's been through hell and back.
He's back.
And that's a player I'll always cheer for.
I thought this was an interesting tweet from Frank Cervalli.
All right.
This had to do with escrow, which I know is traditionally a bit of a dry subject.
But I just thought you'd find this interesting.
Sources say the players can expect to receive half of their escrow returned if the $6.2 billion revenue projection is accurate.
Now, remember, imagine you're a hockey player and you play hockey and you sign a contract.
And every year the NHL owners say, you're going to have to give some of that back to us because we got to make sure that we're made whole.
That's got to sting a little bit.
And you're probably kind of pissed off at all the guys that broke the union back in 2005 and 2006 or whatever the hell that was.
Also, they're your boss and the people that you have to negotiate with.
Yeah, Brendan.
That's great.
It's awesome that the players did that.
However, they've had 6% of their total.
And this is gross.
This is not net.
This is pre-tax dollars.
6% withheld.
They could see 3% return.
So let's say it's a million dollars.
That's $60,000 that would have been withheld by the NHL.
And then you're going to get $30,000 of that back potentially.
That's going to be a windfall for a lot of guys.
Oh, yeah.
And I said a million dollars.
Imagine if it's 10.
Well, and you might be like, oh, they're millionaires.
What's 30 grand?
First of all, they will take the 30 grand.
second of all they're not all millionaires no most of them are not most of them are not um
you know i've said it the the league men guys a lot of them are making 700 grand at the nhl level
or whatever minimum is and then they go down to the ahl they're making 70 which is a pretty
regular ass yep full-time job yep um and uh you know you're blocking 90 mile an hour slapshots
and taken hits 80 billion times.
I'm not saying there aren't harder jobs out there.
I'm just saying for me to step in front of a 90-mile-an-hour slapshot,
I might hope for more than 70 grand.
Yeah, yeah, 100%.
I actually, last night, what did they say?
William Nylander's wrist shot goal between Jake Allen's legs,
like the five-hole goal, was 90 miles an hour.
His wrister.
yes and i give you put that in context what what is it 103 miles an hour 104 miles an hour that's
the slap shot competition yeah yeah maybe 106 by char or something like that every year there's
someone in the hardest shot competition that barely cracks 90 yes dude that's uh wow i think
that's i think that's you know like it just it does kind of go to show and good for them and by
the way if the revenue projections are correct and it's looking looking looking more and more
like it will be um that salary cap's going up and it's going up fast yep that's encouraging
i'm gonna say what i always say i'll leave it when i see it okay all right well that's fair
um now you wanted me to put this in the show steve this is really important to you cool this
is a newborn i don't remember what this is uh this is ryan o'reilly and i'm gonna send it over
to jesse here uh yes okay yes uh ryan o'reilly after an enormous insane crazy comeback if you
didn't watch the game um the nashville predators uh as you know obviously are on a heater and
last night they went down really bad four one four to one now what do we know about four one
games being leaf fans um you got them right where you want them because in the third period
the nashville predators scored three goals and then scored again in overtime and beat the vegas
flipping Golden Knights, 5-4.
O'Reilly, Forsberg, Nyquist, and Yossi are the goal scorers.
Sorry, Mark Jankowski, too.
So here's what Ryan O'Reilly had to say about it.
Oh, gosh, so fun playing with those two.
My Swedish meatballs, they're quite exciting out there.
They're so smart, and the way they handle the puck,
I think when we're tight and working together, it's so much fun.
so he's talking about gustav nyquist and philip foresburg um i i gotta shout out ryan o'reilly
and i gotta shout out uh gustav nyquist as well um and you know what on a completely different
end i'll do philip foresburg that whole friggin line philip foresburg should absolutely get heart
votes um i'm not saying he should win or even be nominated he should he should 100 be on ballots
um that's one of the most underrated offensive players in the entire world yep
um gustav nyquist i said that's not a first line player in 2024 turns out i'm wrong yep um he's
first line player on literally the hottest team in hockey in the entire world and then there's
ryan o'reilly who is on year one of a four-year deal paying him 4.5 million dollars per
and when he signed that deal obviously i was sad that he wasn't re-signing with the leafs
but i was also like you're he just turned 33 in february how on earth does the predator's window
match where you're at in your career you're on the back nine um you want to be playing playoff
hockey you want to win championships it's not like you signed a massive deal i mean you were
offered the same deal by the leafs yeah exact same for the dollar and i also didn't think he
was a first line center um but he's too defensive oriented and he's the center you want on your team
but i didn't think he'd be the sort of center that leads the way and i gotta tell you this
defense first center has 25 goals 36 assists for 61 points in 72 games he's having one of the best
offensive seasons of his career actually he's three no okay he's three points off of his second
highest um offensive output ever his that's amazing his highest is 77 he's probably not
going to catch that ryan o'reilly gustav nyquist the whole nashville predators team
uh before the season i completely underestimated them uh i was wrong hands up uh it's not even
just this hot streak like it went from hey they might mess around and make the playoffs
to they're going to make the playoffs convincingly
to no one on earth wants to play this hockey team,
not even the Avs.
Like, it's crazy.
It's crazy.
I really thought this player was content to,
you know what, I don't want the spotlight.
I just want to go to bars and listen to acoustic guitars.
And I don't blame him.
He won the Stanley Cup.
He won a consmite.
Like, what more do you need?
And he's going to be competing
for both those things again this year.
uh you're rather dismissive of the most important part of that line that's philip
forsberg swedish meatballs uh because because as adam outlines the most important thing in
hockey is scoring goals yeah and he's been the one scoring all the goals for that that line in
the last since march 1st they've played 11 games in those 11 games philip forsberg has 11 goals
that's 11 for 11 over his last uh 11 games which is just fantastic and if you worry about them
scoring goals he has two set up guys and he's the goal scorer and that's how they figured it out
nyquist uh by the way 20 goals 45 assists for 65 points so he's not cooked at all also eight
penalty minutes like wow he should get lady bing votes this is the guy who speared a dude in the
phase um which is true um philip forsberg 81 points in 72 games like that's that's an incredible
line incredible line incredible team and Roman Yossi who was climbing up the points race for
defenseman uh 73 I think he's in third or fourth I can triple check he is in third right now he
just passed Evan Bouchard on the points race so he's just behind Quinn Hughes and Kel McCarr who's
at 81 and 78 but he does lead all defensemen in goals now how did that 19 pass Evan Bouchard
yeah who was just on the heater for the whole season two games ago he had three assists against
the Sens I don't know what he had against Montreal
or who did they play
yesterday the Oilers
yeah who did Hyman score the OT winner
against I don't know it's
hard to remember them all like he
like he's passing guys who are
playing well also
it's yeah so they're crazy
and all because they didn't go to a
YouTube concert we'll watch that
it is honestly it has
to be that it couldn't be because the players
played well I don't like how you're dismissing
the fact that that
that might that's not specifically it but a mentality change happened around that time after
i agree i agree yes i was just making fun of adam uh no but i think it's it's fair to say that
they they had a mentality change where they're they're barry trotz and the organization there
said what were what we have now is not enough we know there's more out of this team and from that
weekish on they've changed that mentality and they're playing up to their fullest potential
like i'm just i'm really glad the equipment guys didn't get to see you too so that the
i think everybody in the organization is gonna be is ecstatic right now at the possibility of
this team going on i'm sure they i'm sure they are and they would trade that a million times
over for a concert i still don't think the concert it came from the players i still don't
think the concert may may break this i cannot believe that what if that was the catalyst for
the players to get their their heads in the game and put it into the simple people you know what
you have to allow you have to allow for the possibility okay and i have to allow for the
possibility that i was wrong i like okay i just don't think so philip forsberg has the highest
uh so out of the forward sure like this is how like i still can't wrap my head around
they're this good philip forsberg has the highest cap hit on the preds at 8.5 who's number two at
5.3 he's number two second highest cap it this should be easy you're talking about forwards
forwards yes okay you said on the prez oh my bad on the on their out of their forwards either
forward it should be easy second highest paid guy ryan o'reilly must be really no ryan's 475
ryan is adam he's even less he's 4.5 okay uh ryan is number three i'm gonna say jason zucker
holy shit jason zucker because that contract's old right that's like an old or no he just saw
that it's expiring yeah it just came from arizona um ryan o'reilly's number three who's number four
gotta be Gus Nyquist it's not
is it Bouvillier? Luke Evangelista
Anthony friggin
Bouvillier where again he didn't sign it there
right and he signed it in Chicago I think
and then he traded to Vancouver
Islanders signed it in the Islanders
yeah dude like how
are good for them or was it maybe with the
no I think it was the Islanders
like they made that Bouvillier trade
and I think our reaction and the entire hockey
world's reaction was
k and they went out and they got jason zucker yeah and the entire hockey world's reaction was
k and they may never lose again they're unbelievable they're unbelievable it's a
it's a crazy story it's a great story it really is um okay and uh do we have anything else that
i wanted to hit oh i just want to do a quick shout out to aaron port's line uh he did a really
great article which we'll dive deeper in we're not going to have time on this episode to kind
of dive deeper in on the blue jackets and but the the i love the title of this the blue jackets are
the major league franchise that parody forgot now the nhl franchise with this lowest points
percentage since they started since they came to life in 2000 2001 is that another crossroads
looking for another savior so that we're going to deep dive into in a couple of days or sorry
tomorrow when we do our next show we are recording tomorrow because it is good friday on friday and
then next week will be tuesday wednesday friday um and i you know without getting into too too
specific you know aaron's always really made time for our show when we've needed him and i just
wanted to shout him out because he's had some health issues recently and he needed a donor for
a particular organ again i'm not going to get into it but he posted it on his his his twitter and we
just want to say a big shout out to to aaron because i'm thrilled for him and i hope the
procedure when it comes goes well but they did find a donor and um couldn't be a better guy like
really he's been he's been amazing to us and i don't think there's a single person who's got a
bad word to say about this guy so i just want to shout him out because like love portsy friend of
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february 20th 2024 the date of sphere gate oh since then the nashville predators 15 0 and 2
they have 32 points the next closest team is the carolina hurricane wow good for who have
26 points in our
12-4-2. The best
team in the National
Hockey League. Look at the LA
Kings, by the way, coming on a little bit there.
Dude, all
15 are regulation wins.
That's stupid.
That's stupid.
The LA Kings deserve a shout out because it
seemed like Victor Arvidsson just having
him back has rejuvenated this team
and has made them good again. So
shout out them for going through a terrible
stretch where they were with the
Sharks at the bottom of the standings
through like December through February
and then just getting it all back together.
The LA Kings
love getting exactly one
forward around the end
of the winter and then going on a run.
Hey, and look, Pierre-Luc Dubois
has five points in five games.
They're assists.
Why are you farting? Maybe he'll want
to stay there.
Maybe he'll want to stay there.
Oh yeah, maybe. Maybe he'll
be like, I like it here. I'm going to stay.
anyway sorry jesse go ahead and ask a question uh so you're you're out on pld forever he's made
it difficult to cheer for him put it that way you want a um i don't okay this is from winter
soldier 31 okay all right stump the steve part two oh like this part two who is the only player
to score seven goals in one game?
There's a player to score seven goals in a game?
Mario Lemieux had six.
Seven goals in a game?
There were no forward passes at the time.
Oh, man.
Babe, die.
No.
Howie Meeker.
That's a good guess.
Cody Claghorn.
That's a good guess.
Joe Malone.
Joe Malone.
That's for the Montreal Canadiens, right?
It was against the St. Pat's for the Canadians, I believe.
It had to be in Toronto.
His grandson, Post.
Shut up, Steve.
It was funny, though.
I didn't like that.
Because Post hockey, Poston Inn.
Right.
No, we get it.
All right.
Keep explaining it.
This is from Varsity.
It's not a joke.
If you are familiar with our ads for Roll Up to Win.
Roll to Win.
We talk often about San Diego.
Because we asked Steve in that ad of where he could go anywhere in the world
with one of the Hilton, I believe, prizes.
That's right.
In his Volkswagen ID4, Jesse.
Don't even have to stop for gas.
And Steve's very adamant that San Diego is a nice place
because him and Mrs. Dangle didn't visit there during their trip to California,
and he really wants to go because he missed out on San Diego.
She wants to go to a Gulls game.
And he doesn't even want to take her.
He wants to take us.
Yeah.
She doesn't get to go.
no she's got to stay home with the baby yeah yeah yeah just handle that three-week-old
we got some feedback from varsity in our discord okay not a question but a statement
i was recently in san diego and i have family there and i must say the level of slander being
thrown out there by jesse and adam is downright disrespectful the city is great the waterfront
is beautiful you're a short drive away from some of the greatest beaches and hiking trails
i've ever seen and steve is right to see it as a great vacation destination also it's a bigger
hockey town than i initially expected not just the gulls but there's a lot of representation
for the kings and ducks who are both a quick drive up the road
adam's doing something else i think no i'm asking listen i don't think i'm at no point did i say
san diego was a bad city or that i haven't wanted to go there or whatever it was all you did was
laugh it was just like hey you got 10 000 bucks where do you want to go and and of all the places
the exotic places we could have gone we could have gone to the caribbean sorry i should have
said guernsey yeah so i really want to go to guernsey that would have been very you as well
But San Diego is oddly specific, right?
You didn't even say, like, Dallas or Miami or, you know, something.
Dallas?
Dallas is a fun city.
You would love Dallas.
But I want the water.
You want the water.
So you wanted San Diego.
I just think it's – I'm not making fun of San Diego so much as I'm making fun of Steve's oddly specific choice of San Diego, if that makes sense.
Sorry.
What I meant was Monteleone, Italy.
There you go.
I've got to visit it.
uh adam there's also a correction that needs to be made about something you said in a christmas
story so you reference a christmas story and does the correction need to be made i wasn't doing a
breakdown of a christmas story like the red rider bb gun thing what what do you want to know made
up a name so as this is from froggy j it said as a person who watched a christmas story every year
since i can remember and the 24 hours of it on tnt every year they they've shown it you watch
all 24 hours froggy j ralphie blames his friend schwartz for knowing the swear word his other
friend was flick i don't know what name you made up but it bugged me no he said he's i didn't make
i didn't make up a name yeah you did he said the wrong name she said you did and you did all right
yeah you did i don't even remember that froggy j is listens i think since day one yeah i think
it's been here before me oh yeah honestly maybe yes yeah and it's funny because froggy j has a
frog in uh in their uh their twitter account and a j and what's funny about that is it for a while
there that was like the sign of the alt right so every time the frog came up i'm like oh what the
what bullshit tweet is oh okay it's just froggy yeah oh here you go i i this is from popular
crown i just searched for christmas see anybody else was talking about it on all right all right
popular crown said the kid from a christmas story that ralphie blamed about hearing the f word is
Schwartz, not Fuller, who isn't a character.
Did I say Fuller?
I'd like to go back and rewind the tape on this.
Who is Fuller?
Great question, Adam.
Why don't you tell the class?
I can't.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Oh, shit.
Sometimes I am.
Oh, that's funny.
So I think last episode, Popular Crown wrote,
source, someone who has watched A Christmas Story.
story i don't know if i believe you i'm sorry you have to provide proof we're gonna have to
go back to last episode and um just do a a re-listen to see if you just made up a character
from this movie yeah okay i don't think i man if i did damn like what am i gonna say
i i don't know i think you might have called uh them fuller when there's no person
steve has lost it let me see if i can uh if i could do this in real time uh one thing i haven't
been successful in finding uh the shirtless guy's name yet so that'll have to be that off
last episode but we got we got a lot of uh controversy going on here with the christmas
story yeah it's a big deal anyways these things matter adam it's funny i don't remember saying
that that's what's weird i don't remember that at all anyway anyway all right we wrap it up let me
give me what half a second all right if you can if you can filibuster i'm just gonna try and find
where i can't because steve's steve's like stevens hasn't slept in a few weeks so he's losing his
mind right now oh i got it i got this okay what time is this oh my face hurts oh my god adam said
uh have you ever seen a christmas story with the no bb gun rifle or whatever and he says oh fudge
and he's like oh i didn't say fudge i said the f word the big one and then he'd say the f word and
his mom was was like washing his mouth with soap which was a thing people did and what was hilarious
about it he's like i had to tell her that fuller yo why do you fucking care like what does it
matter i have the i'm reading the transcript adam you said full why is there a transcript
no this is ridiculous why is there a transcript no because you can search transcripts of any of
our episodes oh can you okay i thought somebody had sat there and written it out no no i just i
was just searching through the transcript of our episode all right uh it was from the thwack
episode uh yeah you definitely said full well there you go listen it wasn't last episode it
was friday's episode um i'm glad that this has become a controversy since friday like i'm you
know what we're in our discord we got we got we got shit to talk about how dare you get a 50 year
old movie character wrong.
Also, did you guys
know that people were that passionate about a Christmas
story? I thought it was just one
of the movies you watched. You did?
I knew that. Okay.
Alright.
Tell us about Fuller.
I'm crying.
We got the VIP episode to go, so you
better save some. Save some energy.
We got another episode coming out today.
Well, not today. It's coming out tomorrow.
ish oh i'm gonna need something for my headache oh my god did you laugh yourself into a headache
no but fuller did
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