The Steve Dangle Podcast - Girl Dad | March 6, 2024

Episode Date: March 6, 2024

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Girl Dad Steve Dangle is here! (00:00), covering sports on Breakfast Television (08:30), looking ahead to what big moves might happen Friday (24:45), the Ottawa Senators trade Vladimir Tarasenko to the Florida Panthers (36:00), will Justin Holl become a Leaf again? (48:30), looking back and forward on this Leafs regime (53:00), UEFA Champions League (1:32:00), breakfast sandwiches (1:33:00), hockey Wemby (1:35:00), AC/DC (1:37:30). Join SDP VIP: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0a0z05HiddEn7k6OGnDprg/join Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/thestevedanglepodcast Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sdpvip/subscribe Visit this episode's sponsors: Get your tickets and group discounts for the U SPORTS Men's Hockey championships March 14 - 17, check it out here RRROLL Up To Win is back for Tims 60th Anniversary! And to celebrate our big year, you can win some big prizes. All-electric Volkswagen ID.4, sun-soaked Hilton Getaway, and cash with a daily jackpot of ten thousand dollars! Play today on the Tims App: https://www.timhortons.ca/rollup Go to http://shadyrays.com and use code SDP for 50% off 2 or more pairs of polarized sunglasses. Visit https://www.betterhelp.com/sdp today to get 10% off your first month. For all the odds and to learn more visit https://betmgm.com/DANGLE Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://igamingontario.ca/en/player/responsible-gambling Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Must be 19+ or older to play. Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Join us on Discord: https://discord.com/invite/MtTmw9rrz7 For general inquiries email: [e-mail] Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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I'm a dropout alumni. Yeah, I don't know if that counts. We got two and a half. Me and Steve graduated. If there's one place that knows hockey, it's this one. It is the U Sports Men's Hockey Tournament. Let's start the show. And everybody's here.

And so is Sid Sixero. Here we go. Filling in for Steve today. Thanks, Matty. but roaring applause um steve is on uh zoom for the first couple minutes here uh we were just you know going over really important data like how did your alex barra banoff video fare over the course of the pandemic things that sid loves that and simone benoit you looked it up last night hundred thousand views on the simone benoit acquired because i think in the middle of him

taping that i sent steve a text and it said we better fucking have a video on simone benoit and we did and we did and everyone was glad you know what's always great is um the comment saying who cares under a video with six digit views get wrecked and lol um so how are you you know this is your first appearance in becoming a girl dad yeah which is just a dad no no no no no there's a dad and then there's a girl dad like i now i get it it's okay i get it now i used to not get it but i get it now i'm a girl dad and i'm better than that's right that's right obviously of course yeah of course no um the um the difference between baby two in 2024 and baby one in 2020 2020 is unfathomable it's uh like i think isla has already seen her grandparents

well her grandparents have seen her i don't know she hasn't met them yet they've met her um she's already met her grandparents more times than leo did in the first two or three months like it's it's not even comparable and uh we already have a lot of answers to questions and I mean, it's still, you know, getting hit with a freight train of sleeplessness, but, uh, it's, uh, it's been a completely, completely different experience. How's Mrs. Dangle? How's she doing? Yeah, I'm doing great.

Um, you know, uh, that hospital, that hospital bed was pretty rough to sleep on, but, uh, you know, I made it through and no, she's good. She's good. this this was um uh an easier process than the first one and um and uh she's recovering really well i was just telling her this morning your color is beautiful i just remember sorry jesse no go ahead i just remember the video that you put up like the rest of us remember when when leo was introduced to all of us and yes the lion king bit happened and like just just you know what it meant to be a parent for both of you and the way you laid that out for like my wife was in tears

i have no soul but my wife was in tears watching that and i just to watch your family grow i just it's it's it's fantastic steven so we're just we're elated for you and i'm happy now as we approach the postseason you're already not getting sleep before the postseason where you will get less sleep during the postseason it just kind of that's okay with each other you know what um you know because because the the uh on tiktok they call it a fertility journey which stop that it's a terrible name for it it's terrible but you know we we had a really hard time starting our family and uh you know you you can't be picky about timing but you know we got pregnant with leo and we were so happy and we're like oh my god that works out perfectly he's going

to be born in late june or early july i work in hockey she works in education she's a kindergarten teacher and we're both going to have the summer off and it's going to be great and then for the first time in human history the playoffs were in august um so so like to to have a kid right before the playoffs like even though leo was born in june and isla was born in march they're born almost the same distance away from the playoffs it's it's uh it's no no different over here no different how does mrs dangle feel about you leaving her and ditching her on friday to come in here and talk about sam carrick getting traded for a fifth round like is is talking about that trade worth uh nazi and isla's fifth day on earth uh i think if i were to tell her that elias lindholm

was flipped to the leafs in a three-way deal that involved alex ovechkin it would have the same impact as sam carrick getting traded for a conditional fifth conditional um you know uh she uh i i guess i just hope she doesn't get a speeding ticket on the way to her parents like that's that's basically it you you think she's gonna be alone you think she's gonna be alone no way not a chance she's not gonna lift a finger all right she might lift a few fingers but she's uh don't worry we got uh we got a great support system we're we're super lucky that's great well we know that you're actually about to make a video right now uh so we'll let you get to it what are you making a video on can i can i ask yeah of course um uh love is blind season uh

whatever this is. No, I'm kidding. We're going to do one on the Anthony Mantha trade. Oh, big Vegas. Blockbuster. 50% regain. That is a blockbuster. Hey, oh, oh.

Did you guys forget where you were? No, no. This is a big deal. Full video. Fuck them. Second and a fourth. It's a big deal. Do it.

It's a big fucking deal. It's a big deal. Oh, yeah. I wish people in sports would stop being like, this trade deadline is going to suck ass. Why don't you just tell people to shut the channel off? You know why it's a big deal? He's going to be their barbershop, for God's sake.

He's going to walk in there cold and be the guy we're all like, oh, only the Leafs in a second. Thank you. Thank you. The way to pay the bills there, Sid Sixero. Thank you very much. There he is. You get it.

There's Angle. So we got that trade. And also, whoa, hey, hey now. Erasmus Sandin contract extension. Whoa. We're going to talk about that and then tonight when Jake Ensel doesn't get traded.

What's the amount? I saw five at something. And I almost keeled over when I saw it. Five years times four million bucks, yeah. I'm more interested in your Sandin video than Manta. Me too. Because I don't know what the Caps

are doing here, with respect. Well, you better thank your lucky balls that it's going to be one video. Sandeep should be its own yeah do it for me split them up yeah alright great

for sure and Barabanov for you is going to be 20 minutes there you go Steve Dangle everybody girl dad better than you better I get it now bye Stevie well that was fun

Sid Sixero, thank you for coming and joining us. And so Sid's not just doing this episode. He's also doing the VIP episode where we get really wacky and crazy. And the great thing is Sid has also done breakfast television this morning. So we get you at like 4 a.m., Sid. Yeah, essentially. How are you feeling? You all right?

I'm good. I'm good. Like there's food's coming. Yeah. Courtesy of my friends here at the SDPN. We can say what it is. It's Mary Brown. It's Mary Brown.

Yeah. yeah other than it's heaven's food yes um listen we're trying to get them as an advertiser so you can go say mary brown's all you want i'd love to have mary brown's i know some people i can help you okay well that'd be great i i don't nap so this is fine like i'm not a napper after the show it's dangerous to nap i'll never sleep well doing that so i'm fine coming down here and and this is my first time walking through the sdpn studios this is a great setup you guys i love what you have going on here love what you did with the place i'm actually surprised it's your first time here for some reason i thought you'd i know you came to my house when we had it in the

basement yeah oh good the basement show i was a big fan of the basement show but but i thought you'd been here for some we're celebrating a year we think this week we didn't even think about it but you asked and we're like oh yeah it's like this week it's been about a year yeah it's honestly what you know a lot of people listening and watching haven't had the opportunity to walk through this place it's it's i'm really proud of what you guys are doing here like this is it feels like home and you can record in every room in your house in your home yeah right it's it's there's a gaming studio there's like other studios out here i just it's a great spot congratulations to you guys thank you i know you're growing every day but just to see it is

is outstanding is it weird can i hold the mic you can do whatever you want we can detach that you can just hold the mic by its thing if you want whatever you want to do i just your headphone level good yeah are you good i don't need to be pampered well we know you came for your big fancy tv job what do you want to talk about today said no i'm kidding i'm kidding thank you for the invite because i know steve has got a lot going on in uh cj god bless cj he was in this week yeah so i i've been looking forward to this since last week since he texted what was in the a block this morning like what was the most important story that you guys hit the a block there was uh is it gonna be like it's a crime or you mean in the news part of the show yeah when meredith

shaw and myself get to a new oh there was a there was a homicide okay there was a homicide we won't dive deep on that one yeah what about like the entertainment portion oh the i'll tell you dakota johnson is basically backing away from the disaster that was the movie madame web which yeah apparently it's considered one of those it's like up there with gilly is like one of the worst movies of all time already apparently like it was the raw the critics rotten tomato score is 12 so wow that's high actually some people thought it should be lower yeah so dakota johnson is like you know what uh too many too many boardrooms getting involved in movies nowadays and oh wow so like threw it on the executives the movie executives and said i don't

know if i'm going to be part of something like this going forward and i don't it was just a stream of bullshit because she's a terrible actress she is well i saw the 50 shades movies they're not good you yeah you put anyone in that role on 50 shades they weren't watching for dakota they were watching for the the whippy whippy yeah absolutely all right yeah the guy who would be in jail if he wasn't rich yeah i always contend that that character would be in jail if he wasn't rich A hundred percent. Yeah. People were really drawn to that role.

Why? Certain things. Yeah. Not the Meryl Streep performance that took place in it. So we had like a long conversation. And Meredith Shaw is amazing. We had a long conversation with Nepo Babies and this and that. And we went through the list of Nepo Babies who were actually like really good.

Like Zoe Kravitz. Adam Wylde. Adam Wylde. Sophia Coppola. Yeah. The huge names in our industry. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I'm right up there with you.

The huge names. but but also sorry it's the 30th anniversary of the spice girls i think like this today or this week sometimes we cheat it if it's this week we just say this if we miss the day sometimes we screw up oh yeah but we it's i but i think it's today well i gotta say they had a huge effect on my childhood cute like that was my awakening let's be honest uh that was like i was like wow girls huh cool and i'm awake a hundred percent i i will uh yeah i'm 14 years old i was i think i was like nine nine or ten and i was like oh my wow this is crazy and i i actually my mom took me to see them uh at the

molson amphitheater back in the day when it was called that and uh i was so short i had to stand on a chair to actually see the stage and uh and ginger spice had just left so it was like you know a whole big drama thing but um are you um how are you how much actual sports do you get to do on on bt like do you get to do you get to do they let you kind of go off on that or occasionally yeah like it's not i don't have the space obviously i used to but it's you know when there are things to discuss and and lately it's been when seasons have ended is when they've given me the most space and when I'm at my most angry

because like we're in a weird spot where like Rogers owns either all of the thing or or a third of the thing in theory and you know I do work with some people who are like eh kind of went hard on that

I'm like yeah but it's fucking deserved like we can't like there is a section of the population that listens to you and watches you and watches BT and whatever sports talk has become we can talk about that but that are angry as well sure everyone not everyone thinks they work for the team and you come across people all the time i come across people all the time when the jays have a season and the way it ended when the leafs get skunked

in five games by Florida, you're not like, you have to represent some level of the disappointment. Now, they go, like in 2015-16, it was different with the Jays. Those were runs where you're like,

wow, that was cool. And they got close. First year, they should have went to that World Series. They should have. If David Price had been good in the playoffs, I always say, that was,

randomly talked about that, the Monday. CJ, who is an outrageous Blue Jays fan. Massive Blue Jays fan. uh too much popcorn for david price that first season yeah yeah and i don't blame him num nums i love me some rogers center puppy and fortnight yeah a whole lot of fortnight a lot of fortnight um like when there are a section of the fan base there is a section of the fan base who get that

angry now there's the other half that are like you guys are nuts everything's great every off season the dubious thing would drive me nuts guys what are you talking about dubious knows what he's doing he's great he's got no resume of success consistently in the playoffs but he's great what are you talking about so I would like you'd fight that the Jays thing was bad because I didn't meet a lot of people who disagreed with anything that I said about the Jays I didn't I didn't that was cut and dry what are we doing here yeah and if they if they I mean you could do that now you could do that right now like they're lucky so you're you're in on Shohei Otani and nobody else that was but that was like otani wasn't even like i've heard jeff blair make this case on air and i

agree with him otani wasn't even a baseball decision it was a business decision sure like not paying or offering matt chapman nine figures which i don't believe at all happened i think that's a ridiculous floated report from the jays like that's a baseball decision otani that friday for three hours changed the city changed it it would and imagine if he came imagine that that continued imagine if that party set up by kikuchi actually happened and he inked it and there's ed rogers and everyone at the day is tony staffieri ceo all can you imagine that scene that changes rogers you can start up one channel called blue jays 24 that's literally what they could have done live no no different than the yes network in the states

for the yankees live batting practice live post games every scrum every podium you turn sportsnet into that i would have bought that too but everyone would because the jays are weird that way they don't necessarily the jays are a lifestyle they're not a team you follow you you will just blindly throw it on because that's what we do because we love baseball and the Jays are who we are. So they like that

the Otani thing was never like anything else and I think and I will give Rodgers credit for thinking it that way. Through jerseys, through TV NHL deals coming up. Would it have mattered that much if Otani's a J?

You're getting a million a night in april and he's not even pitching sorry i don't know how we got onto this no no let's go but i i it would have changed everything it's just it was a different sign so sports in the morning though you don't get to have the everyday conversation about some trade that doesn't really affect anything in toronto there there are just certain other things like news wise don't get me wrong like like meredith shaw has like leaf season ticket holder like she's a huge sportsman she's like and she can talk about anything it's just what do we even if we land on the sports story that day we got we got five minutes yeah and that's that is the one part about bt

where our that's the only part where our success is is is a hindrance because we have sold so many spots in the show and we have so many other important as like between news and and traffic with steph and frank weather everything else devo and entertainment the show flows to such you can't just stop the show unless that story happens like the big one like the one we don't even want to think about like if something that happens live during our show which i haven't seen yet aside from the queen passing you can't do that on breakfast television and i'm fine with it because i like in 2021 when i started on bt i was and the pandemic and doing the shows in the basement thing had a lot to do with this but i was very much done with playing a large role

in filling two and three hour shows i was ready to take a different approach to that and and i if it means once in a while i can't dig into the jays and the leafs like i used to but they still let don't get me wrong they still let me um and twitter's a hell of a drug i remember when you weren't on twitter and then you came back needed a break yeah young jesse needed a break um but i i yeah that's that's that's the one thing about bt is sometimes you miss but like i'm fine with it like i was at a point in my life where going like doing three and two hours of just the sports and underline just the sports i've already kind of proven i could do it and i didn't feel like it was appreciated okay so i feel like i'm somewhere where it's appreciated

in a very different unique more succinct way if that makes any sense that's not a rip on anyone or anything but like i just don't i don't think there's like some people i used to work for didn't realize how hard that was well it because it it comes across as your work chris chris johnson always calls at the candy store like we're lucky we get to work in the candy store it doesn't mean that it's not a lot of work like i'll tell you a guy like cj and you know this cj is working 24 7 during the season he is on his phone constantly he he he put like six or seven calls to voicemail while he was talking to us what a boss i know i saw some names come up and i was like oh my god he had to put a stop the show take the call he had to cancel a call from a gm on the last thursday

cj show yes like live while they're recording he's like i'll call that gm back yes if i because we can control what people see when we call them right if i change my setting to bill zito and i call cj right now does he pick up i think he does because i think there's a tarasenko trade in the works right now it's intensifying elliot freeman actually just tweeted a couple minutes ago that tara sent go to the florida panthers or it's it's it's coming down to the wire we might actually get a trade during the show i was hoping we get something this morning so we could kind of break it down but there's lots of other things we can talk about in in in advance of that and i think what's so

interesting about having you here sid is that you have the ability to look at at this now from somebody who's been on the inside of how sports is made how sports talk shows are made how the sausages how that yeah and so when like so if you were on you know tim and sid leaning into the trade deadline right now on a wednesday show you're talking about promoting the the sports net uh trade deadline show right you're having people on what are the things are you looking for like what are you what are you putting together i mean the way the way tim and i would do it it wasn't necessarily about putting it together like there were there were years where they like it's funny It was always funny because Bob McCown sometimes had to deal with this

You like the people producing trade deadline and that is a hard show Now you have some amazing people on the desk at both networks who can carry anything But still it's something you have to plan for and you want to feel like you're including everybody So I remember I don't think I'm telling tales out of school. I remember like they they always had like a discussion with bob about being a part of this and it was always like a little there's a little to and fro with it because bob's doing a three-hour show oh yeah so one year one year they're like okay bob's agreed to be on call afternoon ready to go he sat there for like three hours and i think they used him twice oh if anyone knows anything about bob

no bueno that was but yeah but it's just but that's the flow like it's not purposely done it's the flow of the day if there's if trades start filtering in at 12 45 eastern and blah blah blah your need like it's like bob was never filling in his career but in that moment you kind of are and there were certain times where tim and i were and we got it like one year actually The one here, the most fun I had at a trade deadline was we were kind of a fill-in gap thing, but they had Colby Armstrong in there with us. Oh, that would have been great.

And Colby is just fucking amazing in every way. Experienced player, doesn't take himself seriously, funny guy, loves, he has all the things. Great story. Colby, great story. Colby's all the things. So we just, that's one of the trade deadline memories I have, I hold most dear to my heart,

was us messing around with Colby, just waiting for our someone to tap us on the shoulder your turn yeah get in there yeah and say guys this nick ritchie trade isn't happening can we read you five seconds well you know i think i think when we're uh it's interesting for us because the way we're gonna we're gonna do it on friday it's just the way we've sort of always done it is when the trade happens then we'll put something out right because the big block programming we leave that for the the big networks and that sort of thing and i think sometimes having things in a in a bite-sized piece is is just easier we're also not going to sit there and speculate for like four hours you

know we don't we're not calling some gm or some contact to be like okay is this trade happening and then we talk about the possibility of it happening we're not we're just going to react to the news that's how we that's our arena arena right we're not uh you know cj is going to be with tsn but like we're not yeah like as jesse said we're not insiders so it's kind of uh it's it's sort of a different way of doing it and i i always like it because it is really fast paced and you do nothing nothing nothing and then bam it's like okay there's three trades and we're gonna be busy for the next three hours and that's that's how it goes like it's i i've never witnessed it from that angle where you're like on the desk desk you know what i mean like it's that

is a that is a window i've never looked through um but the way the way i've always kind of approached it was you you want to be out there when the shit hits the fan though like you want to be i don't like when's the last big last second kind of deal we saw like i'm trying to remember like what would it have been last year they all happened early they did but like a like a boom yeah like the big one well i know that like the horvat trade was big last year but again early yeah early uh ryan o'reilly nola chari was big for leaf fans again early yeah um yeah any trade with the leafs is going to have for sure have a rather big outsized explosion but yeah like i think what would be big is you know if we're talking about what cj was talking about last

night the fact that lindholm who they the canucks gave up a ton for maybe parlayed to one of their oldest rivals boston uh so that they can get genzel is like a what that would be an explosion cj's on a heater man see that that tweet from from cj last night wow took off and i and deservedly so like i like lynn home the first thing i thought it was like lynn home like left his long-term relationship for the new person and the new person's like i'm bored yeah and elias is just like i didn't know what i had but like his numbers in vancouver are atrocious they are and i and the more i think about it i think part of this is Pedersen has not looked the same since that move for whatever reason and like

I just I don't like part of this stretch I would struggle with this as a GM in a big way is the chemistry is the feeling like even if you know you need that third line center even if you know you need that fourth defenseman whatever it is I I mean look Rutherford and Alvin are cutthroat in Vancouver I think we all get that but when you have this kind of feel I don't know I don't know about this type of jockeying like I don't I don't Gensel's different because everyone in Vancouver knows Gensel very well so it's unique but that Lindstrom thing is is a cautionary fucking tale to any team especially the good ones who want to make some hay but things are kind of going well and even if you don't have a ton of experience so i i don't that that lynch there the lindholm thing

is amazing he has um six points in 15 games the four goals came early didn't he have like a hatch who went to a four and two games wasn't it yeah he had four in the first two or something like that and then that's been it his scoring has really disappeared from that 40 goal season and well i guess it's kind of regressed to where he was before the 40 goal season that's tough when enough gadro and kachuk yeah and now where he is after it and the the thing about the chemistry is so true because i feel like jeff jackson and ken holland have been the most open and honest about that and that the oilers have been the best team since their slump at the beginning of the season why would we ever add anything to mess with that we have the best team right now what's the point

of adding like maybe we'll do something on the edges but there's nothing we're gonna do that's gonna shake up this core they've been successful i would it's a great point what i would say to that though is and it's dawning on me every time I'm watching oiler highlights and seeing what's happening there is no streakier team in the

league if they don't catch it when they need to catch it in a month and a half in two months they're dead they're absolutely dead with this group because they that's how they roll they'll be

close to the Sharks to start the year and then go nuts so which one are you you get I just they don't have the ability they're like they're like a a freighter ship trying to turn quickly they can't do it so i would if i'm the oilers i definitely have to figure out stopping the four five six in a row losses from this group and i and and i think you have to inject something a little bit differently

you got to be smart about it because they've they've made some moves obviously but i don't trust the Oilers as currently constituted the swings have been way the whiplash has been way too much I think in addition like Corey Perry is was perfect for them I feel like that's somebody who's got the experience you add them in they're gonna play within the system they're gonna be stable and I don't know if it's if it's something along those lines again like a veteran you just get in there but I don't think they need too much of a shake no I'm with no I'm not saying like no they're still you know the bones are good but and are we gonna are we is skinner gonna is it were you doing this with skinner what what do we well with stewart skinner i mean so here's the

thing i have been saying i think that that guy's their star i said it last year i think he's their star i think you i think whatever the oilers do just double down on what you're good at you're good at scoring crazy goals um and so keep doing that so the fact that they're in on a guy like gensel i think there were some rumors about toffoli if new jersey was ready to sell and i think they have to be at this point is tyler toffoli a good player yes and why the fuck does he keep moving because the he wanted to stay with the flames and the flames wouldn't meet his contract demands he was their leading scorer last year and then so they traded him for sharon govich who's worked out better than everybody thought and he's now leading the devils in scoring and

the devils have had bad injuries and i mean frankly they needed to fire their head coach so obviously there was some coaching issues there too so i think i think that's why he kept moving and then vancouver same thing he he was brought in as a as a as a rental guy that they wanted to keep and then they wouldn't meet his contract demand so he moved on and i think that's why and then this season he's a ufa and he wants the he's 31 i believe and he wants a seven year six year deal eight year whatever anybody's going to give him so he wants to go somewhere where they're going to give him that deal i just find it odd a player that liked moves around that much yes do you not find that it's like four teams in four years it's a lot that's a lot yeah going

back but going back to the um go back to the Oilers they do need like I I the moment that changed the entire playoffs last year was when Petrangelo woke up one morning and said I don't like how Leon Dreisaitl has two arms gonna chop one of them off like yeah yeah yeah it was the cheapest one of forgive me i don't remember every cheap playoff play last year there's a lot that one mattered that he went that guy went out there like petrangelo is a lot of things smart is one of them and if you're gonna get a game or whatever they gave him they gave him a he changed the series he changed the postseason that's what like that's cup mentality to me so someone on edmonton if you're going to bring in whoever that is that has to start to be so

cory's a part of that cory hundred percent you need the arm hacker so that's him i need an arm and the great thing is petrangelo you lose petrangelo from your roster that's a big loss you lose cory perry from your roster you'll be all right all right i don't think they need densel like that's where i look at the i'm kind of with you i don't think they do what do you think they do then i think it's it's around the edge like i think they go get uh depth forward And I think they maybe add another depth defenseman. But making a big goaltender move, I don't think makes sense. I was looking it up here.

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trade and when i tell you guys the return on this i think you're gonna laugh well you're setting this up okay because you remember the tan f oh it's got to be a first round pick it's got to be a first round pick it's a second and uh a guy who projects at best to be a six seven in the nhl like a six sixth or seventh physical defenseman yeah jeff said he hits jeff merrick said he hits for keeps and i'm like nowhere in there did he say also good at hockey so i i was concerned about that but they're not mutually exclusive that's true they're not but i think jim nill sold him a little bit and you should oh yeah um so uh here's here's what it is to florida vladimir tarasenko 50 retained he signed for five million dollars that's two and a half against florida's

cap to ottawa 2025 third round pick conditional 2024 fourth round pick can you guess the condition boys what would the condition be on tarasenko yeah on a family conditional fourth is he playing in north america stanley cup is it really yeah yeah he's playing in north america i thought he's had a good year is he upright yeah that's the condition uh fourth becomes a third this year if the uh panthers win a stanley cup oh my gosh can you imagine uh-huh we upgraded 30 spaces i have the trade from so good i negotiated for the opportunity february 9th 2023 oh the new york rangers acquired vladimir tarasenko this is what they spent on him one year ago that's disgusting sammy blay hunter skinner who the hl player fourth round pick conditional and a first round

yeah oh from dallas but still oh we'll see how theo lindstein works out i uh wow and the conditions on that too are crazy does tarasenko feel like a panthers player to you Yes. In what way? Well, first off, we know this, and it's a bit of a trope, but it's sort of true. Russians love Florida. The Russian guys love Florida.

They all want to play there. Like, that was a big thing. Bobrovsky was like, you know, everybody was like, oh, yeah, he could go anywhere. He's going to Florida. Of course he's going to Florida. Especially for 10 mil. Yeah, and who can blame him?

Oh, I live 20 minutes from Miami. Man, that really sucks. Like, I've grown up in, I grew up in Russia. I'm playing in Ottawa. I've played in St. Louis and New York. Winter, winter, winter. I'd like some, you know, when it's February, I'd like it to be 30 degrees outside. I don't blame him for that.

So, yeah, I feel like there was a magnetic pull for Tarasenko in Florida. But he didn't really have any choice. I don't think he's got any no trade protection. I don't think Dorian gave him that. I hope he didn't. No, I hope he didn't. For as long as he waited to sign, that would have been crazy to give him that. Absolutely.

Absolutely. Because Carolina was in until the end, but they wouldn't. But it is Dorian, so. Well, you never know. There was a no trade clause on his deal. Well, there is, yeah. So he waived it to go to Florida. So that's the other reason.

there you go the reason he goes to florida and the reason the returns low is like he's like i'm going to florida or i'm not going yep nope you're bang on dorian gave him a no trade so here's what i heard last summer outrageous i heard that the carolina hurricanes were willing to go to four and a half no trade no not like no no trade clause like as in no clauses for a year and i heard that the the senators beat it by money i didn't realize they put the cloth yeah so there was a complete it just said ntc no trade oh my god yeah that is wild no conditions on that one thing about the florida panthers is that i think they have the best top six in the nhl so i think tarasenko's gonna fit in somewhere on that third uh line there it's verhege barkov reinhardt cousins

bennett kachuk like that's your six and then you get to add tarasenko somewhere in the bottom six the the team right now is the favorite to win the stanley cup right i think they should be they're gonna win the president's trophy again the way they've played lately too like they've just torched boston was ahead by six seven points and they've just torched them now boston has fumbled it a bit but like you have to win the games florida's winning the games and and by the way anton lindell this this guy uh is an absolute menace um and he's been playing he's played like he's played almost 200 career games he's 22 years old this guy in the playoffs last year i could not stand him could not so if tarasenko's playing with that guy yeah i'm i'm hoping that the the

leafs don't have to play them till the second round like we want boston like we don't want florida don't even go there um but you're messing but still that's that's a but you know that's one of the best teams in hockey saying you know what we're gonna mess up a line i find that very interesting well very yeah i think that that kind of underscores this trade deadline is these really good teams and they're going to add it's not like the leaf situation where they need something you know florida is set they're playing really well and then they add this piece how is that going to affect the chemistry i'm curious i and and you know the other thing is and since we're talking about florida let's talk about tampa can you bring up tampa on on on daily face off because

so the word is noah hannifin has a deal worked out with the tampa bay lightning should the calgary flames work out a deal so he's got the extension ready to go and we should bring up their cap friendly too but let's have a look at tampa's defense as it stands right now okay so you got headman radish flurry cernak uh perbix and and by the way i think sergachev will be back oh it's tampa he will be back yeah yeah he'll be back game one of the other role um i mean pretty solid and i don't know what goes back the other way but tampa's not in the habit of trading off their roster very often what do you think the number would be for hannifin on that on that resign well what are we looking at are we looking at like what stamkos would have made next year

like eight million that's what they're eight nine million i mean stamkos would ask for whatever he wants but like he wouldn't get that but and they're strong like the thing is is that i think Sergeyev's right hand and no he's left so it's I'm curious about that too because where does he fit in I mean obviously you find a spot for Hannafin it's Hannafin but um where is who is playing where going into this this is these aren't you know Tampa has underperformed by their own admission this year they're certainly not the team that they wanted to be or thought they were but that doesn't mean that they're bad uh but you now have Hedman Sergeyev and Noah Hannafin on the left side so that makes them very left side heavy not that that affects things too much but you

you're gonna struggle to find ice time if this happens unless sergachev's going the other way which i cannot see happening that team still though with vasilevsky man i know like i know it's been a weird year there i get it it's it's you know aiden hill is not always going to win those cups man you're gonna have you're gonna have a stud who steps up again who knows what they're doing and may like it feels like they're banking on if defenseman is the move du jour for julian brisebois they're thinking the same thing they think vasilevsky has another run in him and who and would anyone here disagree with that no no and they also have the the probably heart trophy winner nikita kucherov like the way he's separating from his own teammates in terms

of just strictly points and dragging this team to a playoff spot who knows if he just has a an unbelievable we look back on and we're like wow look at nikita kucherov's uh cons my trophy run you know and that could easily happen i'm so here's okay take a wild guess at andre vasilevsky now he is he did have surgery to start the year missed training camp didn't i don't think he played till november but take a wild stab in the dark of what his save percentages this year i'm gonna i'm gonna say 907 okay league average is 903 so just above league let's say 900 896 now here's what's gonna be hilarious are you ready for this what's gonna be hilarious is when he gets into the playoffs and that goes to a 920

because that's the kind of goalie this guy is just get me in get me in the door we'll be fine that's what i think i i feel the same with stamkos who's had a point of game this year but he's like a minus 25 that's a problem a bit of a problem that's a problem and and and kucherov who is like uh there's i don't know what you say about kucherov other than he's so unbelievably good and he might turn around and swing his stick and take your head off too 100 and also like pat like pound for pound in terms of playoff games under an entire roster's belt i haven't done the math on everyone tampa's still smoking everybody are they not in terms of playoff experience oh my god it's not even close absolutely and this is not a year where they had their pedal to the floor the

entire time like i heard like elliot for a long time and it was a great point would bring up you know like the mileage is there it's going to start to pile up we're going to see a collapse here we're going to see this and that like our tampa this year's florida our tampa just going to get in there in the last wild card because forgive me it's them in detroit right it is it is I'm not as up as I used to be. But it's not like they've gone full bore except for one guy in Kucherov. So maybe you ease your way in.

Maybe you have a different feel. Maybe it's not all about President's Trophy and Stanley Cup. It's a different type of thing. Because I feel like we are all sleeping a bit on a team that has two rings in their back pocket and three cup appearances in the last five years or whatever it's been.

It feels oddly like we're doing that. i just i wouldn't put anything past that group and if you're a gm right now you're looking at who you're going to play and if the playoff started today who are they playing wild guess it's florida florida panthers so the florida panthers load up with tarasenko if hannifin goes to tampa that is going to be one of the best first round series we ever see oh it's going to be like whoever wins half the roster won't come out of the series yeah they'll be dead dead that arms chopped all over the place absolutely absolutely it'll just it'll be an arms race in a different way and it's i think i think there's that's such a like i mean this is the best part

about the first round is the storylines the storylines would be crazy like no offense to the new york rangers and detroit red wings but i think even they would admit tampa and florida way more exciting i'll take some original six of that though yeah yeah absolutely destroyed espn and tnt destroyed is sneakily better here's the difference though florida panthers goal differential is plus 61 this year can you guess tampas my guess game is shit today jesse i had it up so i can't guess uh tampas yeah i'm gonna say plus three plus one and here's the thing like if i told you like the leafs have let's say if they have two goalies

and they and their save percentages are 896 and 888 imagine how this market reacts to that in tampa it's like oh yeah we got vasileski at 896 and jonas johansson who's never going to see ice in the playoffs unless there's an injury 888 we would be screaming from the heavens for a goaltender tampas you don't you don't hear anything we're good we're fine that's scary you want to you want to talk hannifin because we're fine there yeah yeah so this is the this is the fun part about the uh about now because like and cj said this on monday like we're talking about trades they're going back and forth with gms now but as soon as friday hits and that and we know where everybody's moving now it's just about hockey now it's about alignment for the

playoffs we know basically who's going to make it now it's going to be about who's it whom's whom home ice can tampa sneak in and not play florida and be one of the not be one of the wild card teams can detroit do the same they're they're about dead even with each other right now like that's where it gets to it starts to get really kind of can uh can we dive in forgive me if you've already done this the justin hall thing what about it what justin what about it what which part of the justin hall thing um there's a few there's a few justin look i got a lot of pods in this phone all right sdpn is laced and i'm listening to elliot and jeff and i'm doing the i'm doing the 32 and the second elliott threw in and he whispered it he didn't just say it he whispered

it because he knew the bomb he was about to set off in certain areas of the internet and he said leafs need a right-handed shot right this is not my best elliott and jeff goes yep and uh frege goes it was a right-handed shot who might be available in detroit jeff goes who it was justin hall it was how much carnage online would happen if justin hall became a leaf again and jeff paused and said a lot of carnage a lot of carnage a lot of carnage eiserman's doing something here and it's going to be amazing i don't know what it is i think he's getting impatient he's got a good coach he's got a good core they're young uh there's something something's happening with stevie why i know i know he's

patient a lot of ways especially negotiating with a player oh yeah but when it comes time to bring in some some peoples he has an itchy trigger figure finger pardon me and i'm that that could be interesting that could be very because the panthers the panthers reality from last year is still i think it's i think it's more of a one-off but i think there's a lot of gms looking at that going oh us eighth eighth in the conference no problem tampa's thinking we got it detroit's thinking we had a couple we might be able to have it i think it's a false pretense a very odd thing we witnessed last year but it could stir up some chaos amongst the wild card teams across the nhl yeah in a way that we haven't really seen a ton in the last several years so i'm and and detroit's

got cap room too which is interesting so here's the deal justin hall was signed for uh three years at 3.4 million so if you have that that is 1.7 million they'd have to retain i would think the here's the problem for leaf fans and this is where it's a problem for me is that is sheldon keith security blanket he loved this player and by the way the guy is apparently a great guy like beloved in the dressing room i've dealt with him a couple times he's first right yeah okay so great team so let's take that off the table this isn't a personal attack here's the other issue if you're a leaf fan their penalty kill isn't good enough and so what was justin hall in the lineup for all the time he shoots right he's kind of big

really good at killing penalties there's a lot about it that makes sense now jesse i think i don't think that there's been anything that actually other than elliot and jeff i don't believe there's anything i think i think a lot of that is is joking around speculation oh i don't know man you think that was joking i think it's a little bit of man the biggest market in the world i think well if it was it was it was classic trolling and applaud to both elliot and i think it's a job well done but like i but look they need a right shot d it's just about that season where you're gonna need sunglasses everywhere everywhere all the time so how about shady race 300 000 people have rated them five stars it's a world-class product now it's said since you're

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They've never looked this dynamic offensively in all these years. And I'm a little bit more hopeful than I have been in the past years. and they're tougher and they are tougher yeah despite like the ryan reeve situation in the in the fall he started off great and then that was the weird stretch in the fall and then he gets scratched it's it looks like it's it's galvanized the team there's more tough like toughness around the team like simone benoit who's been great um where are you at like or do you have that kind of optimism that leaf fans currently have you from the kind of outside looking in i mean it's it's stop me if you've heard this before it's a weird team because they

they do this they do this thing I finally figured it out this week I'm an idiot if their best players are scoring they win games

it's a weird thing with them what is their power play they've lost six straight to the Bruins right yes I thought I read their power play

in those games are 0 for 14 yeah like and who are you playing in the first round and who are you playing in the first round

it's just it's the most transparent group right now in hockey so the one thing I would say to Leaf fans is I don't think March 8th matters to you

because I don't know how much it's going to change. This team followed Dubas and Shanahan structurally to some weird spots, and you're here now. You're not going to turn anything around between now and Friday. I don't believe. because you are what you are. This team is not a great defensive team.

This team is lacking some defensemen. I think the goalies can surprise people. Aiden Hill won a cup. These, like, Joseph Wall. Now, Wall has to play and stay healthy. What's he played? Less than 30 games in his life? And Sammy's got to play healthy.

And Sammy's got to play healthy. Yeah. Which I felt terrible for him last year because he was never healthy. But Matt Murray didn't give a shit. And he had to play every game. Seriously, remember that? He was clearly – Sam's not – for a team that's like, you know what?

We're going to give this goalie of the day off here and that goalie here and the nutritionist says we've got to do this. They're like, Sammy, get in there. We forgot that Eric Sheldren started like 10 games for the money. Yeah. Eric Sheldren. 25-year-old Eric Sheldren. What a reference.

Yeah. I just think like there's no more Lego blocks here. There isn't. You have spent your money. you have spent your pick capital you don't have a ton of prospects and it really it this is the group so if any leaf fan thinks it's going to be crazy there's no it's that's not i mean that's that first round pick is in play if there's like a longer term i got my fingers crossed on david savard and that being like the magic juice that can solidify the that's a first round pick to

ken hughes he's not he's not he's not letting the leafs yeah ken hughes wakes up in the morning and acquires the first round that's the thing goes to tim horton says i'll have a large double double a sausage breakfast sandwich and i'll take your first round that's the thing that your first round steve was yelling about in the lfr is if you send a first round pick to montreal and it doesn't work out like they flame out in the first round the pick gets they get drafted it's a good prospect you're living that down for the next 15 years yeah i mean it went so well with placan it's right he did score that one big goal but like it was so weird so that's why there's it's a little scary if you go after savar and savar doesn't want to move by the way he wants to stay in montreal

he's signed there he's from there like so that's also part of it too is like they can but like he doesn't want to go he wants to be a part of what they're doing and and so yeah that's that's also a problem in toronto like we saw it with bertuzzi a little bit at the beginning of the year where he was dialed out we know that bertuzzi is not staying here on a long-term deal we know that we're almost 99 sure that we were hoping to bring him in have a great year get a big fat contract somewhere else play where you want to play right that's what we were that was the thinking and i understand that thinking um i think you need to have a guy who wants to to be here and win a cup here and understand that here well the best example of that is ryan o'reilly from last year

like you hate that that the interview he did on tsn where he talked about how so do i i hated that What did you hate about that? Speaking of what? What was the subject? Because the inference when he left town was too much noise. Especially around the core four, right? I didn't even pick up on the core four. We can talk about that.

I heard a guy who genuinely said, who willingly did sit-downs at Massey Hall for Sportsnet. Too much noise. I didn't hear that shit when they acquired him. you never hear a guy the leafs acquire say there's too much noise guy i thought it was i thought it was weak i thought it was a weak way to to exit a situation and it drove me nuts because we're not we are the softest media in the national hockey league people don't know it i'm like there are not a lot of people out there that criticize the leafs

there aren't there aren't well you're not really allowed to you kind of shout it down like but that's what i mean like i i don't like all like all the all the dubious transformers are running around here saying you don't know what you're talking about for the last seven years and and you're like guys you need draft picks you need like you see that team that just won the cup their best player makes eight million dollars what do you think that means and you get shouted down and shouted down and shouted down and i know and i love you guys for inviting me on because i know half your listeners hate my fucking guts but someone out here has to scream against this madness of what the situation they had to have double retention on labushkin

cost them a pick on the roster they had to twist themselves into a pretzel to allow themselves the opportunity to get more labooshkins. Is that not fucking crazy to anyone but me? What is it about this chair? I'm angry. Are you thinking? Is the chair singing or is it the steam chair?

I feel like Steve Carell is falling. He likes to move around so you can lock that chair up. I can feel it. It's taking some abuse. Adam, it's taking abuse. That's what bugs me about shit like that from Ryan O'Reilly

who i'm sure is a really nice guy but it was it gives this false pretense that we're a tough media market we're not montreal is a tough media market eat you alive man yeah martin st louis is another year max it is and then they're like bring back someone else yeah we haven't won a cup who else is up yes who's the guy you hated went to the cup of uh no oh ducharme ducharme bring back he's working for fucking vegas and he won a cup see perfect perfect i just that's why i didn't like that comment yeah yeah lots of long and short i'll tell you what i didn't like about it i and and it it it rankled me because uh it rankled me because i'm i'm a big proponent of this is a game that does have some issues in terms of future we have like sean fitzgerald wrote an entire book

about he called it like when the lights go out about how hot minor hockey is down in canada and how leagues that were once thriving like when i was growing up when jesse's growing up when you were growing up and now they're they're shutting down because it's too expensive because people are in other sports because then the nature of the country is changing too we have uh populations here and cultures here that are into things like basketball and soccer and more worldwide sports rather than just you know hockey is um worldwide but it's sort of a hemisphere sports the northern hemisphere where you get snow right and i think we need these guys these stars to sell the game ryan o'reilly is a good looking successful guitar playing guitar playing um a guy who has uh you

know a con smith and a stanley cup and a really great resume and he could have come into this market and sold this sport and i know it's like oh are you selling oh you're selling leaf fans on the leaf so how hard is that no no it is because toronto also has enormous immigrant populations who you want to get in on this sport and what a privilege that is to put on the blue and white to be in the center of it and and yeah talk to the media and that part bothers me because i feel like you know i'm looking when we were down in nashville people we had an event 200 people show up which is so cool and like and that was for the the draft and people drove from all over to come see us and they were talking about how hockey's growing in the southern southern states they can't build

arenas fast enough in the states in the in the southeast especially so from nashville on over to florida there are tons of arenas going in you know we've seen the the boom in california we're starting to see what the gretzky years actually we're gonna snow in california yeah 100 yeah and obviously we've seen what the coyotes effect has been and i know that the arena situation is easy to make a joke about but matthew nye's and austin matthews are not hockey players without that and so you know i'm i'm looking for guys like that a canadian guy from the market sell the sport and i and that it rankled me that you know and listen he can make his own decisions on where he wants to go in his career he's earned that right to be a free agent go sign in nashville and that's

great but it bothers me on the way out when you say yeah the media is too much work because it feeds into a false narrative which i agree with which is oh the media is so hard on the players if you look if you go and watch a press conference they're hard on the coach they're hard on the gm they occasionally ask a question that makes a player uncomfortable when was the last time you saw a player get genuinely upset about a question and i can tell you the one i remember is dave Fast Chuck. Fast Chuck and Kessel. That's a decade ago.

Or Steve Simmons a couple of times. Yeah, because he did the Matthews COVID thing. And Matthews was right to call him out. It was bullshit. Austin was. You don't leak a player's medical information, ever. Especially when it has nothing to do with hockey. Like COVID is a...

But we're talking three examples. We're talking Austin Matthews Simmons. We're talking Brian Burke Simmons. Yeah. Berkey on the way out. Again, that's 2010, 2011. Fast Chuck and Kessel. what else has what else is top of mind i can give you 15 exchanges of the new york jets media this

past season that were crazier yeah than all three things we've mentioned but toronto's the tough market give me a fucking break and i've been outside of it now for a while but i'll go on and talk for four minutes and it runs why because there's not much of that out there and by that i mean truth the leafs are not a bad team leafs aren't a great team but people want to hear that and this mark the suggest this market is tough on like is just a fallacy that triggers me in every possible way and i and i can't stand it it's just not true it's not montreal it's not new york with the yankees it's not boston with the red socks it's not any english premier league city oh my god man start paying attention to international sports go to bayern

munich right now my god and they beat lazio yesterday in the champions league and everyone is calling them garbage garbage they won like 11 straight championships in germany coach's got to go coach's got to go they don't know what they're doing got to sell alfonso davies coach has got to go harry kane's really slowing down guys got like 30 goals he's really slowing down now the pressure here is so masked and it's it bought it bothers me because you do run into people in the business who are like oh i don't know how that's going to go over oh i don't know how that's going to go oh now i'm getting tweets now i'm getting hate too i don't give a fuck no one in this market talks honestly about this team over extended period of time the way you guys do and a few

other people there it doesn't exist they are catered to at every turn by this media every turn Now, you can argue it's respectful, and I would say it is. And it should be. Terry Cochran is respectful. Lance Warren is respectful. Those guys are respectful. They do the job. Luke Fox is a good writer.

They're all good. They do a job. But in terms of commentary of this team, you don't see it anywhere. And I have a problem with turning that notion to something it isn't. If that's the way it stays in this market, that is what it is. That's fine. But it's the Ryan O'Reilly, oh, it's too tough. Now, I want to ask you this, because he did say on the way out, too,

that and I think he may have a point because Brad Treliving echoed this when he was hired Brad said de-emphasizing the core which you can't do because that's how the team's built and Ryan O'Reilly and I forget which interview it was suggested that maybe there's too much attention on them and and again that's how the team's built so of course what do you think about those those types of comments and how do you think I mean obviously we know how that would play in the room which is they probably just ignore it but what do you think that you think they ignore well i know a certain few players that probably wouldn't but i don't think they ignore a thing i think i think the easiest tell in professional sports is when someone tells you i don't pay

attention to the media they super pay attention to the media guys guys who just don't even bring it up are the ones that don't pay attention to me like just i do believe william nylander does not pay attention you know what i mean i don't know if he knows there's media yeah he'd be like i don't even know what's media which just makes him a perfect that's why he's the greatest i'm just sitting here in an undershirt on swedish television just hanging out play hockey i should have showed up in an undershirt you should have yeah and a suit and a suit like you get it at all-star too oh just oh yeah there are elements to willie with it i think are just phenomenal he's amazing just phenomenal great personality like i'm gonna do my thing and it's fine but i don't

think there's i think there's other guys in that room that really follow what's going on and um you know i i think you know i think you sometimes see it snap back in in a scrum setting i think you know exactly who i'm talking about i do and so here's my question then is the pressure that the players are feeling because obviously there is pressure just from the enormous amount of fans there's a scale for leaf fans that's gigantic they're everywhere they're a disease in a lot of markets like ask ask buffalo or ottawa how they feel about leaf fans probably not great um uh ticket office doesn't mind no they don't they certainly don't stop they they well they the the sabers tried to do the area code thing but yeah yeah and like most things they do it

screwed up well yeah because a lot of saint catherine's and south are buffalo sabers fans correct and i so anyway i i i digress on that one um is it is it that the players are feeling like there's such an enormous amount of fans they'll like dm you if you lose and they'll do some crazy crazy shit on your instagram you got to shut off your comments like i mean it's nothing that other professional athletes don't have to go through on even bigger scales in other countries we admit that is that what it is is that what they're talking about because people will say the media and I often wonder is it social media is that part of it too because that's got to play into it might be like I I do I do think what sticks with some of the guys on the roster like the

the highest paid guys is the way it gets in town the 48 hours after an elimination it's dark right dark I think that and that's where even this past year it was like I'll never you know other than um forgive me who went to carolina who signed with carolina bunting yeah bunting i'll never forget it was like i just you know i just don't want to hang out with my buddies like there's a there was a weird kind of like they didn't know what was going to happen for the first time we're truly after one of these losses martin knows happened riley didn't know what it's like no one had a clue i think in that window historically in this market things do get tough for the players because the five specific players because of the money and because of how

that power play looks in the playoffs and all the things um so i think i think that's where they have i think it feels like sometimes they all have muscle memory based on those 48 hours after a playoff loss in this town that i will agree with anyone gets tough it's nasty gets brutal online and it would be different if they lost in six in an eastern conference final but that hasn't been happening and I think that's where that's where they really start to feel it that's where those that's the only time it gets tough I swear to god because then everyone three days later turns around Shanahan says something and people get angry at a different thing you know I almost think Shanahan does it and Dubas did it like as like take the attention to draw them away

like yeah take attention away off the players but um yeah that's I think that's the only time work really good so no one's no one's ever been more vocal about that than steve about how every year is groundhog day it's the leafs lose in the first round and then dubas or shanny they go up to the podium they have their end of season and they talk about it and then in a week we talk about the second round of the playoffs and we go to the stanley cup final and everything's good then it's the draft time we're all excited about the leafs again yeah you know and it's it became the same thing every single time this past season it felt like marner has this is your last chance to trade him you know there's a there's a possibility no trade clause doesn't kick in yet and um the guy

who's going to trade him was like oh neil andrew didn't have his contract yet there's an opportunity to do something there and austin matthews he's obviously going to be around forever but his contract didn't exist you know you could do some stuff here and then they fire dubas you know and there's no opportunity to do anything because nobody's there anymore who's going to make those decisions and then you bring in brad so it's it's a it would this past year was a different 12 months from the Leafs' elimination land. Do you guys think if Dubas was still here, in all honesty,

he would have busted it up? I think there was a pretty good, pretty good, pretty good, from what I've heard too, pretty good chance that one of the four is gone. Obviously not Austin and obviously not John because John's contract's just not tradable.

And some of that is, that was his decision. He wanted to do that going forward, but Shanahan, who is the stable piece through this whole thing and is the real gm does not feel that way and you butt heads and one guy has the power to fire the other guy and he's gone i tell you the best the best trade kyle dubas was not allowed to make uh and i think this has been pretty publicly widely reported was the trade with

chicago a couple deadlines ago they were gonna get um they need zach hyman had just left they needed a zach hyman the zach hyman was going to be brandon hagel and they wanted brandon hagel bad and the deal was a first matt nyes or or if you believe some reports it was two first i don't believe that so it was a first and matthew nyes for brandon hagel and um uh mark andre flurry because remember they had injured goalies going in i think freddie anderson wasn't playing well in jack camp they were in a bad spot yeah so so you got you get the experience and the vibes of mark andre flurry right he's just he's been there he's won three cups been in the finals you know and you just love the guy great smile great smile like man what a what a superstar smile

stpi will get some scoops oh be nice i don't know what you're talking about uh and then and then and then brandon hagel who hit who then was traded to the tampa bay lightning you take him away from the team that beat you and who ate the leafs alive that year in that first round is brandon hagel got haggled and the guy that that that is supposed to have said no to that trade is shanahan and i think it was like a couple months ago or a couple months after that there came out some other reports about how dubious was in on that in on nixing the trade as well but we've heard that differently and i don't i'm not buying that i tend to trust yeah yeah i've heard it from four or five different places at this point it's so it's so every you know sometimes you can tell a story

he's got variations and you'll never know the truth because everybody's got a bit of a different broken telephone every single person i've talked to that knows anything about that trade has said the same thing what did you call them earlier dubious robots the the the dubious decepticons that's a better one well okay and and listen the guy had great trades the guy had uh bad trades good signings bad signings like every gm does i think the problem the hard part for me at certain points um and the parts that i can remember taking the most shit for one of them and i will die on this hill because i was right was them choosing to protect kerfoot and hall over jared mccann you got jared mccann for nothing and they're like well we won't have a right shot defenseman

who makes two million bucks in justin hall and i'm like he cannot be that valuable he cannot be that valuable kerfoot cannot be that valuable and and jared mccann has gone on to score 30 plus schools jared mccann last night had a great uh shorthanded goal and you think about how how bad the least penalty kill is and you're like you know that'd be cool i just want to die like there's there are things like that where you go and then and people were like well actually this is good obviously history has turned out differently and there's plenty of stuff that i'm wrong about that's just one that i feel particularly proud of being right about i was never a big kerfoot guy you're allowed you're allowed a victory lap thank you thank you i

appreciate that um but what i what i'm thinking is and and this is i think this is important because when i when i watch other sports the other sport that i love the most um outside of of hockey is formula one i love formula one and then secondarily and very second like very very close to formula one is baseball my mother-in-law there's nothing i enjoy more than my mother-in-law sitting on the couch first batter strikes out and she gets up she goes this fucking game and then and then starts doing laundry but she like lives and dies by the blue jays every day right so that's that's her her thing um the one thing i notice in formula one is that if you are not performing you're out and they have guaranteed contracts but there's no and there is a salary

cap or if you're ferrari you give them a new job yeah you get gardening leave yes yeah that's what they call it um ferrari is like it's it and and mercedes is like this and red bull is vicious uh mclaren was like this with daniel ricardo and a few other drivers too it's like are you performing no okay we got the next guy and when you look at something like and i understand that these leagues operate without a salary cap but i'll bring it back to the nhl in a second you you look at who are the big the big clubs and you're talking about bayern munich you're talking about psg you're talking real madrid uh man city uh i would say you know liverpool right now we're having a moment yeah what happens when a guy on that roster isn't performing what happens

it uh it depends on what the transfer fee was but for the most part the heat is severe um and heaven forbid a young striker goes in there and gets a couple of goals when you've had 10 without then things get interesting but it does uh you know performance is important like i've seen like again just we're mentioning bayern munich a lot in the show but like they they they they have like Kimmich is one of their better midfielders one of Germany's better midfielders he's had a bad year to the point where they're just they've changed his position it's like Mitch Marner on defense they've changed they've said no you're going here now and he's like I'm I'm gonna make the national team we're hosting a euro this summer go there

and shut up that's how that rolls and it's a it's a fascinating way to do business performance-based decisions hell of a thing who um who operates like that in the nhl the best and i'm thinking of one team vegas vegas vancouver fast approaching fast approaching man he's cut and he was like that in pittsburgh and he was like that in carolina too you're not you're not in you're out um i love yeah i love brother for that i gotta say you know as much as we gave vegas shit when they were uh cutting ties with certain players look at look at who they've offloaded in the last few years the guys that they brought in the guys that they moved out like even Riley Smith this summer they win the cup and two days later they're like you're going to

Pittsburgh like that is that's a team that operates like you'll never hear this about Vegas they did right by the player how many times did you hear that the Leafs ah the Leafs did right by the player they may have told Smith like at the party he was leaving probably like at the ranch right yeah yeah yeah that's right so we kind of did a weird retrospective on the last couple years of the leafs what do you think of bradshaw living's tenure so far like the last it's only been eight months i think it's been eight or ten months yeah under the job what do you think about it i think anyone being over critical doesn't get the job because he came in like it's equivalent of the three of us getting an email saying guys you're running the leafs

and free agency is three days away yeah and they didn't let him on the draft floor No, I'm not at the draft bar. No, I make decisions. Now they got me. Those bastards. I can't go on the draft. I'll go on one. I can't do it.

I can't meet the owner's son. They're going remote this year for the draft, right? Yeah, they are. It's about time. Is this the last year? This is the one at the Sphere. Yeah. That's going to be a great year.

They're doing a, hey, big shebang every year. Yeah, so they won't bring 40 people up on stage and thank people. Enough of that. You know what? Bad television. For the Predators, bring back U2 in the sphere. Just for the Preds. Bono comes out and makes the pick.

Before they make their pick, Bono. That would be incredible. Oh, let's make that happen there. He's had hits. He's had misses. Dubas had hits. Dubas had misses. The Klingberg swing, I never understood.

I never understood it. The Reeves thing, I never understood. I know he's played better. This wave is going to end. And I like Ryan Reeves. But that was weird. And my jury is still out on Bertuzzi until we hit April 20th or whatever it is.

I think he's going to be different. We'll see. But look, Martin Jones hit big time. Maybe saved their season a little bit. I think so. And I think he's, I would have liked more years on Matthews. Don't tell me that contract's going to age poorly. Get out of here.

Oh, no, that contract's going to, yeah. That guy's aiming for Ovechkin's numbers by the end. I hated that argument. It's going to age poorly, so four years, shut up. I didn't like Nylander's deal at all. I do like the freedom he's

kind of given. Like Sheldon's needed some air cover here. Because the daycare mentality was there. And he's let Sheldon do his thing. Which is call out players. Yes. Which I think is important occasionally. If you want to not give us a hometown discount, we're going to fucking call you out

sometimes. Sorry. Sorry. Signed for 8-6? I'm going to shut up for three years. Do your thing i will not say anything at eight six anything like do you know do you notice how often he criticizes riley on a mic it never happens never why because he gave him a great deal what was riley going to get open market that year eight and a half maybe a darnell nurse easily easily i have a lot of respect for morgan riley man for a lot of reasons but like he never criticizes right because riley did by did right by the organization whatever you think of riley

I still don't think they can win with him playing 20 minutes a night we can discuss later but the big guys have to get criticized if they're going to fuck around you will find out on an open mic I do firmly believe that so I let Sheldon do that so like it's a very it's

I'd say it's a C plus on Brad but like I want to preface it again by this job Shanahan's over his shoulder looking at his homework the whole time still let's not act like that's not happening and And I think if the Flames were a responsible organization, they would have played Volantana.

I don't think they did. I don't think they took the ball. No, Murray Edwards, apparently, there's a... Why the Leafs of all teams would have to pay an extra price just because Brad resigned from his job is weird. It's also not doing your fiduciary duty. You're not doing right by the fans. Your season ticket holders don't fucking care

if you like Brad's for a living. They care about a first rounder coming the other way. Yes. they don't like it's it's it's irrational anyway um the one thing i'm fascinated with though like the game tonight it's a national game on sports night tonight yes sabers tonight obviously the bruins tomorrow i know the leafs don't want to trade their first i know the leafs don't want to trade easton cowan i know the leafs don't want to trade fraser minton or matthew nyes but to be a fly on the wall

if they lose tonight and 5-1 in Boston tomorrow. What then? Are you telling me someone up top isn't making a call? And they're going to sit there and go, look, if you think we're sitting here

on this TV contract and Leafs are out in six again, you're drunk. We're going to try our best to fix this now. If that happens over the next 48 hours, I am fascinated

with what the mentality is going to be with this team and those final few cans of chunky soup in the cupboard. Because it eats like a meal. Eats like a meal. You can do a lot with them. You can do a lot with the cans still there. There's not a lot of cans there. They're good cans.

You'll be full by the end of it. What happens if it's 5-1 Boston against them? But like an effortless 5-1. Like one of those. I don't know. i'm not convinced the leafs are gonna i know what brad would like to do but there could be some heat just to finally say guys why are we stopping here why are we stopping here so we'll see we'll see do they look at it depending on how these two

games go which they seem weirdly very important on how the club's gonna make their decisions on friday like i feel like you should never just be so reactionary but it feels like there's a case here to just react to how these games go because they always struggle against buffalo who they should beat every single time based on how buffalo has played this season and if they don't show up there that's it's going to be such a disappointment uh tonight and then boston who you lose that stinker uh yesterday or on monday whatever that was and then um how are you going to show up again you're facing them again now it's time to show up and i just give an effort so going into the friday i wonder if brad looks at it as hey if you don't show up i'm not rewarding you by bringing anybody

in or if you do show up then we should stand pat because we're good enough you know i wonder which side of the coin he's going to take depending on how they show up in these next two games it's a great point like i think i think brad is look i don't know what shanahan's thinking with keith pelly coming into mlse but brad true living just signed a contract so he's thinking i might be here for a little bit i'd like that first rounder i'd like easton cowan to try and do that with us i'd like all these things i don't know where shanahan's at so i was going to ask you about that my next question before and the last one before we go to press conference here where we ask we got listener tons of questions from twitter said your um your rise started well

before sports net but when don collins hired you guys you guys were the mid-afternoon show on sports net 590 the fan and then you were also simulcast and then the tim and sid show tv show happened as far as i remember all that happened under keith pelly correct keith pelly in your opinion brings what to maple leaf sports and entertainment because you know him well you worked under him i'll tell you the story about keith and maybe i'll answer your question because when I Sorry, trade? No, it's the door.

I think it's Mary Brown's chicken around here. Chozo! We both get the ring. I'm sorry. I apologize to no one. No. Because Tim and I cut a commercial with Mary Brown's right before the pandemic. I remember.

It didn't air much because it felt weird but we had a ton of fun doing it. Like, it was a great... Oh, it was a great spot. We had a great time with everybody. They were a professional shoot. It was great.

Anyway. 2011. Summer of 2011, I leave the SCORE television network. And Don Collins at the fan offers me the one-to-four time slot on the fan, as you mentioned. Tim had some things cooking still at the SCORE. Was kind of going back and forth. I was going regardless. Tim had some things

he had to figure out and then Tim's like the time slot's really good it's amazing like he's got a young family like it's that's

that's a good slot I could have been in my car at 3.57 every day doing whatever I wanted it's still the best like in terms of a functioning human being one of the best shows

so Tim decides he's coming too so Tim and I are gonna do one to four on the fan station we've listened to our entire lives this is a huge break for us leading into bob mccowan the score two months later calls me and my agent and says you have a non-compete are you aware of this so we're going to start like in september and i'm i'm pretty wet behind the ears i'm like

what's that so people don't know in broadcasting you leave a place for six months you can't work at another place or it varies from contract to contract but this is my first time doing this so we were supposed to start in september and keith pelly is kind of running roger sports and media and you got scott moore running sports net and it's like they were told we're starting september no no we got to start now in december does that affect the deal so my career is in their hands is in keith pelly's hands and the message that came back was we'll wait my career could have ended right fucking there in an instant i will always look at keith pelly i can't speak for tim i will always look at keith pelly as a guy whose instincts are pretty good

because i knew if we got in there if they trusted us we'd be okay but he had a choice and his career is always like from what i can tell at much higher levels than our decision he's he's not afraid to make a big swing or trust his gut and uh i you will not hear me saying a disparaging word about that man because i owe him a ton i never got a free round of golf in europe whatever he did run the european golf tour yeah yeah and never got the invite huh until saudi arabia decided we want all of it okay yep essentially it's what happened with live but he's coming in like again this is the this is the silent bomb that's coming is keith is going to become mlse ceo is it a ceo yeah like he's not they're not bringing him in there because he's

getting a free suite for springsteen concerts that's not how keith operates so i like if there's a bunch of stuff tomorrow we don't expect it's because i think there's going to be stuff early may coming with this team that maybe we don't expect and i think it's going to be for the better because he's he's he is a man who likes to stay active in his role and he knows bell and rogers very well um he's a guy who gets stuff done you know and was the hockey contract like completely fruitful it's a big deal at least not going past round two ever it doesn't help it but i uh i think this is going to be a really good thing for mlse well he he is the last guy the last guy i can remember who had who was this energetic was tim lay wiki and that changed not just the leafs but

it changed tfc and the rafters as well and what did he do uh took some swings took some swings they took some serious swings so i'm looking forward this this this story playing out is going to be unreal to watch let's do the press conference two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th join thousands in toronto for the princess margaret cancer foundation walk challenge yourself friends and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research together we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer register today at pmcfwalk.ca and what better way than with a delicious pret organic coffee starting at just one dollar all

day every day now until december 31st you gotta try breakfast at a and w at participating a and The Presser SDP. The Steve Dangle Press Conference. All right. First question comes from out of context Karen. Karen writes, Sid, who will win UEFA Champions League? Real Madrid. Next question.

Is it that locked in? Real Madrid. Jude Bellingham might be the best player in the world right now. They got him. I barely know who that is. You don't know who he is? No, no. He's the one who's going to help England win the Euros this summer.

Oh, you think England's going to win the Euros? I think this might be English. Oh, that'll be fun. If Jude Bellingham can continue to play the way he's playing now, he's a midfielder scoring a bunch of goals. It's like Kael McCarish. Like, statistically, it shouldn't always play out that way in soccer. He walked into Real Madrid and became an icon.

The last guy to do that was Ronaldo. Like, they are a phenomenal team. They bought a slew of midfielders who are young. I think it's Real Madrid. Unless it isn't. But I think it's Real Madrid. This is from Colton Arthurs. What is the worst breakfast sandwich medium?

Bread, English muffins, or bagels? Which is the best? Yeah, the food takes consistency. What do you mean by medium? Sorry. Like, I guess the delivery method. Yeah. Because you're holding it in your hands.

You don't want your fingers to get dirty, right? The medium is the message. That's right. Thank you, Marshall. Appreciate that. I watched it. The worst is a bagel. It's not even close.

I'm not a bagel guy. The best is an English muffin. If you have not had a Tim Hortons breakfast sandwich with an English muffin, tomorrow morning, start living your life for real. Because that is the only way to have it. I have to tell you, though, number two on that, because they brought Tim Hortons. Tim Hortons is a big breakfast television contributor, obviously. They put the sausage and the egg and the cheese in a croissant. Oh, yeah.

I almost fucking melted. It was so good. That is outrageously good. Like just, I put it just behind the English muffin, but the croissant breakfast sandwich, bellissimo. All right. What about between two hash browns? No, then we're doing the double down.

The KFC. Yeah. No, it's disgusting. It's ridiculous. It's disgusting. Stop it. You can't make bread out of things that aren't bread. Have you seen those people online who do the cucumber sandwiches

and the bread is cucumber? They're not doing that. they cut open the bell pepper you have the bell pepper as the bread the sandwich you stuff it with the food and then you eat that it's outrageous yeah that's why i'm not on tiktok fuck that i don't get tiktok here we go jesse uh let me bring up other questions uh this one i thought was interesting but i don't know how it would work um would a player this was from adrian would a player like victor wembanyama succeed in the nhl so we're talking like somebody who is freakishly outside of the realm of the typical nhl player

but i think we're seeing that with guys like tage thompson and like rempy's coming in there to fight more than brazo in in boston like these guys are six seven six eight soderblom in detroit like we're seeing six eight six nine guys play in the nhl now but you think we're getting seven foot nhlers one day sorry or did sedano chara not happen yeah i thought chara already was was women yama before women yama i think he was yeah like there like he would he would like attempt to inadvertently kill a human being with his viciousness but was like a top player in every like he did everything well right if blocks were allowed the nhl he would do that too i think i think char is the closest we've seen we're gonna see a freak of nature though

like who can skate like some of the best guys in the league eventually it's gonna happen who's way bigger than we know yeah like the next lindros like if lindros was born like if his career was now yeah the damage he would be like oh my god it's going to happen where a guy of that size with that with those feet and that skill come in the league under under these rules and just go ham it's gonna happen but char is the closest am i missing a name no i think that's the that's the name and i i actually by the way having shaken eric lindros's hands a few times and done some charity stuff with him and whatever i can't imagine what it must have been like for any nhl defenseman my size and i'm 5 11 normal size i mean nhl standards probably 6263 that guy

coming at you would have been terrifying yes 100 like not fun and if so if you have a guy like wemby who i know he's like he's super thin right now but he's like 18 yeah if he you know put a you know have the guy who go home and drink gravy for like a whole year just put on some pounds or something like that and then get strong and heavy scary did i tell you the story of how at smash fest he bear hugged me eric lindros i believe i unofficially broke two ribs he was in a good mood okay and we we had interacted socially a couple times and i'm like that's eric lindros and he was just he gave a bear i'll never forget it he's i'll never forget it when he gets going he gets going he's a riot one of my favorite people eric lindros i'm not too familiar with your music taste

so i think this question kind of all over the place but go ahead stink face mcpoop lightning they want to know what would your goal song be classic stink face classic question from stink face um sorry mcpoop lightning classic mcpoop lightning mcpoop lightning is his dad sorry mr mcpoop lightning uh what would my goal song be it would be it would be something acdc is but i don't but like shot down in flames has been done calgary um it would be it was probably thunderstruck the kids need to know more about acdc two guitars a bass drum vocal nothing nothing else don't need nothing else no backing vocals no do you know the only other instrument acdc ever used in the song you know what it was bagpipes broad track uh long way to the top if you want

oh look at these i was a radio dj man couldn't let me have that one scott sorry yeah no no bond scott guys i think i'm so cool and funnily enough if you look in the video his teeth are a mess and and so the the they used to when they did hot um before they actually made any money um they he used to smile in pictures but hide his teeth because they were worried about yeah so then later on when you got him on like the highway to hell album he has teeth because he got an implant and it's unfortunate because it was towards the end of his life but yeah he was able to finally you know fix his teeth were really really bad i didn't know that yeah yeah yeah i made a blatant attempt they're re-releasing

every album on vinyl is that what they're doing and i made a blatant plea to the record company on bt i want that well i basically said that if you go get them like remastered and on vinyl amazing spectacular i'll keep i'll give you an update on how that goes okay please do i think we're good on questions we got another show to record yes and sid's gotta have his mary brown's chicken my halftime said thank you so much for joining us we really appreciate it had a lot of fun boys hey and we're doing vip next so we're gonna have some fun we're going off the rail That was fun. And good to see Steve.

Congratulations to Steve and the family. That was awesome. Yeah. Yeah. He didn't look as tired as I thought he was going to look. I know. A little like with it. He was annoyingly refreshed.

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