The Steve Dangle Podcast - HARD | October 14, 2024
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lots of thanksgiving day games happening today we don't normally record on thanksgiving
but uh we uh we have a guy with a book that's coming out yeah and uh you know what fine fine
you could get us to work on a long weekend thank you but we are actually coming into work tomorrow
because we're interviewing Matt Sundin,
which will be on Wednesday's episode.
Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
So Matt Sundin will be on the SDP this coming Wednesday.
I also want to mention, Jesse,
you've got Steve's fun doll beside you, right?
I do, yeah.
His fun doll, U2s.
Yeah.
U2s can own me.
It's a piece of history.
There it is.
Feel that.
Actually, a lot of them sold this weekend,
which is kind of nuts.
I couldn't believe how many did sell.
I don't have the exact number in front of me
right at this point,
but it's over a hundred sold friday alone oh wow so that was amazing and it's great because you
can't sell it let's if we sell a certain amount and then they go and make them that's right yeah
so that's actually get in there yeah yeah get in there and freaking do it yeah and you've got i
mean it's a two-week window that's the thing it's not a sellout thing it's a timing thing you got
to get it within the two-week window look at my hair you can flick it well you got that kind of
hair don't you yeah i know it's a great doll i'm already getting in trouble from steve's
wife by the way because he wants to bring it home to the kids and i was like well you can't
we need that's the one we have and in two weeks you may bring it home and they can slobber all
over it all right yeah you could do jeff hardy with it you could do that so sick uh also want
to mention that we have the oshawa general steve dangle podcast night uh coming very very soon
october 27th tickets are 40 bucks it's going to be us at the game and if you're an sdp fan you're
going to be in the same section you just have to buy through the oshawa general's website uh it's
all there for you uh and you'll be sat in the same section with a bunch of people just like you
yeah you know love the sdp just like you and chapters new market tomorrow oh okay yeah right
also i just want to mention on the general's thing we are doing a show afterwards as well
no so that's also part of this it's not just like hey you can buy tickets to to oshawa yes you can
but also we're going to be there
and also then after do a show with you.
No, just sit with us.
And the ticket is admission with both.
Yeah, or you can just come hang.
Maybe we just need friends.
Is that what it is?
I think we all need friends.
It's tough to make friends when you're older, you know?
Yeah.
It's tough to find people that like you.
So please come be my friend.
Yeah.
So listen, as we start the show, gentlemen,
I just want to ask you this real quick question, okay?
The Leafs are leading the division.
Let's go!
In points.
But here's the winning percentage.
six six seven it's happening is it happening happening boy jesse is the curse lifted yeah
because uh the patch already thing him scoring the first goal of the season he's 67 last time
they were shut out to start the season it was 1967 it was all meant is that true yeah the last
time they were shut out to start a season was 1967 oh damn yeah damn those it's all it's all
the stars are aligning this is it now are there any numerologists among us who who watch and
believe in numerology yep like that weird jim carrey movie me remember that the number 13 yeah
yeah it was really and i wonder if if any of you can can point out any other 67s that you see any
67s you see throughout this season brandon cozen's a scout with the team is he no okay i made that
up that's great that it was believable it's awesome yeah uh so listen um midway through and
this is how i want to start midway through the game on on saturday it was almost as though they
listened to friday's podcast first off on saturday morning they must have felt our presence
for ruby specifically because jesse was there at morning skate now jesse for anybody that didn't
that's all i want to talk about like i don't even care about the game i'm just so happy for jesse
for anybody that here heard the end of friday show you know this but maybe if you didn't jesse
tell everybody what happened now we're credentialed for the toronto maple leaf
so now i attend things like practice and i was at practice today morning skate on saturday they
had off day sunday and i'm in the press box during the games and fun fact my seat in the
press box there's a fun little story around it but the seat i sit at is number 67 get out of here
there's no shot there's no shot you have to take a picture i have a picture of uh of it uh the
maple leafs assigned me to seat 67 in the press box yo it's yo it's on we're gonna win they're
gonna this is happening this is the year i can't i can't show it because um they're very protective
of like things you can take pictures of at least our staff have a sense of humor here show here
you can see there's the like 67 sd oh my god jesse blake hey that's so cool yeah yep so that's
crazy it's three hockey
news seats followed by
us you know I know I'm
not allowed no why are
you doing that you're not
allowed to say that I
can't talk about how
you're sitting next to a
Latvian thing I sat I
sat in the wrong seat
initially you dumb idiot
and then oh Jago the new
guy our good friend James
Merle up alerted me to
the board where you can
find your actual seat oh
and my number was 67
he's like you're new here
you must be yeah so
but like i don't know 67 keeps coming up yeah they wake up i'm so happy that's morning skate
it was good um yeah what i don't know what the news out of morning i forget well here's
tomorrow's was sick tavares was jc yeah which apparently he was playing through that uh
according to you jesse apparently he was playing through that we didn't willie say that at the at
the scrums today uh that he was playing through that in new jersey yesterday so he scored that
crazy ass goal and he was sick as hell i was like man that badass john tavares to start it it just
ripped it i mean right uh southern ontario in the fall everyone's sick i i yeah he was still
he wasn't uh healthy enough to practice today he's still out so he might miss uh wednesday but
we'll see the reason that i was that i was bringing up people listening to our show on
friday specifically the leafs is we suggested one key thing that after their first period
they adjusted to which is on pp1 what happened jesse leafs reporter they switched it up that's
right oel uh nize they made the made the pp1 with with marner neilander and matthews right yeah and
marner matthews uh nize five on five have been sparkling this year when riley and tan have been
on the ice we'll talk about that in a bit but power play one has always been a bit of an issue
for the Leafs because, A, it goes
dead in the end of February every year.
B, it never
really had a shot from the point. It had a shot
from Austin Matthews. Mitch has
a shot that, as we saw on Saturday
when he uses, it's great.
They had a
couple moves that had
a really high
percentage success rate
if the move was
pulled off. But pulling the
move off was like 10%.
Right.
it was it just it led to a really stagnant power play like they would get through power plays that
didn't even look like they tired out the penalty kill like it wasn't just oh they didn't get
scoring chances oh they didn't no like they were mostly just going back and retrieving the puck
from their own end and let me tell you a little bit about oliver eckman larson who played 25
minutes on saturday night that's probably too much but good for him already attempted 21 shots
at five on five wow that's three more than matthews and he's 26th overall in the league in
that that's just attempted shots i love early early season early season stats are great yeah
but jesse you were there you're watching steve you're streaming i was you're watching it was
we were busy bees what do you see with oel on the top unit that you don't see with morgan riley um
uh morgan feels very stationary and he feels like a facilitator and you never actually believe he's
gonna shoot because he's not right and if he is gonna shoot it's not gonna do anything he likes
throwing on the floaters and if you tip it good for you um but otherwise he's not gonna do that
like am i reading that well like oel just feels like he he's more active and he shoots with a
purpose yeah it was i was looking at the notes i was making during the game and it was the late
third period power play when pp1 stayed out for the entire two minutes it was nearly the entire
two minutes and that's where you saw like oh oel can do some different things than than riley where
they're able to generate some chances a lot of it's still like around the edges they're not firing
the puck as much as you'd like them to but just being able to control the zone and that way you
saw it at the end of the game it kind of come to life because that's the only real complaint for
the leaf so far this season obviously matthew hasn't scored but who cares because they're winning
and the power play is not working okay but who cares they're winning you know so the complaint
is like what can we work on here and the power play is the one thing they can work on so and i
I know Mark Savard's taken some heat already,
and obviously there's a conflict of interest there
on account of we did a car commercial together,
ice surfing co-hosts once upon a time.
Do people think you won't be objective on Mark Savard?
No, no one has said that.
I'm just acknowledging it.
I'm just getting ahead of it.
I don't think that's a thing that's ever been said.
Give it time.
Give it time.
But what I'm saying is the one constant,
and we did bring this up Friday too,
has been the personnel.
and I don't think that's coaching like at the end of the day players have their tendencies
and in times of panic which a lot of being on the ice is they're always going to revert back to that
you'll be able to pull off set plays and this and that and that but ultimately you you do what you
do Marner is typically pass first Domi is typically pass first Austin wants to shoot
um riley is going to facilitate uh nize is going to be a battering ram in front of the net um
etc etc etc so you at some point it doesn't it doesn't matter at all who's behind the bench
it matters who's not on the bench it matters who's actually out there and i do think they
could do a better job of setting up matthews it's not like the ovechkin power plays where you he
stands there and then you find a way to get him that one-timer they could do a better job with
that sort of stuff because i feel like austin carries the heavy load on this team a lot and
if people around him made it easier for him in a situation where you have a man advantage
i think they'd score some more do you see for nearly 20 years the washington capitals have
tricked teams into thinking they're not passing to him for two well nobody wants to stand in front
of his shot either well that no one will get down and block that it's not fun nice uh i was curious
about him on the first power play unit because like again you gotta vote it's too early so you
kind of have to focus on what looks weak now it's too early and they're good yeah uh so so let's i
mean and and honestly this was an issue for them late last season i don't care where they finish
i don't care where they finish in power play last season when it mattered it stunk i do not care
don't care and so nice moving there is also interesting as well because you got a shooter
on it was a you know a defenseman who can make a zone entry and shoot the puck now you've got a guy
who is, in theory, big enough to get in front of the net
and be hard to move.
Did you see him doing that?
Was he doing that?
Was he shifting towards the net?
Are we getting butts in front of the goalie's eyeballs?
Are they looking at cheeks?
They should be looking at cheeks at this point.
Yes.
Two big blue cheeks.
Clapping him.
Seriously.
Don't laugh.
It's not funny.
How dare you?
I saw that a lot more five on five.
I haven't seen it enough on the power play, Jesse.
Yeah.
seen like uh nice cheeks clapping in front of the net yeah i don't think power play yeah i don't
think he has adapted to that role yet but like there's so much room to grow for nice like he's
gonna be such a good player that i'm not like worried that he's not doing it right now because
he's gonna get to if that's what if that's the role they need like he can get there there's
gonna be an opportunity to score some goals against the kings if uh today's game against
ascends as any hey we're saving that for the bet mgm big story i know uh i i do want to say that
uh i thought uh josh yohi from the athletic had an interesting take on saturday night's game
afterwards he said the fact is the penguins aren't good yohi isn't that how you say his last oh i'm
an idiot they were playing the penguins i'm sorry i thought you meant josh clohy who covers no josh
yohi from the penguins i got what you meant i interrupted you to correct you and i was wrong
uh he says the fact is the penguins aren't good enough to beat really good teams unless they
control play for 60 minutes they just don't have the margin for error anymore because they can't
create offense at will the way they once did no they they beat themselves in that one like they
had some really good plays but ultimately uh crosby who you very rarely see make a mistake
the marner goal was kind of it was kind of on his shoulders and uh the first goal the domi
kneelander goal where they just gave them like a two and a half on oh yeah and domi still passed
by the way and that was i was like that is such a max domi play and it was perfect the leg kick
and everything like uh joel blomquist bless him i thought he had a great game someone's got to be
like it's max max he's not shooting not shooting the puck he's not on defense i think you guys
would find this interesting. Jonas Siegel had some really
interesting insights. Yeah, but not
as good as Jesse. He said it's only three games,
two of which are against not-so-great teams
in Montreal and Pittsburgh, and I agree with that.
But the five-on-five numbers are striking.
The Leafs have surrendered in these three games
just 12 high-danger
shot attempts.
Shot attempts? And only two goals.
Okay.
The Leafs have yet
to give up a five-on-five goal
when either of their top pairs,
Tanev, Riley, Ackman, Larson, McCabe are on the ice.
And the Timmons-Benoît were one of the Timmons-Benoît ones.
Benoit didn't have a stick.
Yes, yes.
Each pair has yielded just two high-danger attempts on goal
in their 30 minutes on the ice together.
And then I thought this was also great, too.
The combination of Riley Tanev, Austin Matthews, Mitch Marner,
and Matthew Nyes has been almost flawless.
They've only played nine minutes on ice together.
Small sample size.
Jonas says that.
Of course.
The Leafs.
And I don't want to.
Do I have to do that every time?
Yes.
Okay.
The Leafs are outchancing teams 12 to 3 when those guys are on the ice.
93% of expected goals.
The other lines that's crushed it so far.
Reeves, Conf, and Lawrence.
Or Lawrence.
Depending upon how you pronounce it.
Shots are 12-2 for the fourth line for the Leafs in 11 minutes.
Though they have been outscored 1-0.
I know.
Damn it.
That's so not fair.
No.
but isn't that cool i just thought that's cool dude there's a lot to like there's a lot to like
about the their start yeah and i can i you know it's funny against montreal it was there is a
there is a tendency with this team to make um goalies that are good look like absolute all
stars in situations where they shouldn't right they suppress them decently too what do you mean
like uh 27 shots that's okay we're talking about montreal i know yeah they they oh you mean they
stopped much oh yeah they surrendered 27 shots i'm like the lease had over 40 shots no and then
they had 47 like right but the goal the way that you can see a little bit now about what berube
wants and how he wants them this team to score like i mentioned it last episode when matthews
drove kovacevic into montembeau um when you're seeing this there's a lot of a lot more chaos
There's a lot more.
I'm not seeing the insane.
Like the one thing I'll say about their power play is they're not.
They don't seem to be drop passing too much.
No blue line.
No, I like that.
They seem to just fire it in and go after it a little bit more.
The number one thing Craig Berube is going to have to say this season is guys with increasing volume.
So you get 47 shots.
Very few of them are dangerous because you won't crash the net.
Yeah.
And before the next game against the Devils, you got to go guys.
and then they go okay and they score the first three goals of the game right right and then
they win that game and then they sort of forget and they have a terrible first period against
pittsburgh and then you go guys and they go okay and they score the next three goals against them
like there are always especially at the beginning of the season a team where you got to go oh hey
wake up yes you have to get their attention yeah and once you do like when they're engaged
they're crazy when they're engaged and they don't have the playoff what if we lose mentality like
they're really difficult to beat and the Holmberg Domi switch mid-game seemed yeah that's the thing
that kind of unlocked everything is when Domi got up to that second line because I thought Domi was
the best player on the Leafs on Saturday night like the amount of little plays he made all game
long to just like he doesn't get enough credit for his hockey sense when he can when he knows like
okay i'm gonna make a play in the middle and the neutral zone here and turn over the other side i'm
gonna make that extra pass here which he always does because all he does is pass but domi was
spectacular on saturday and moving him up like they unlocked something with that line and it
got willie going like i credit domi for starting willie's season off in the right direction because
willie he had that one shift in the first period against the penguins where he got the zoomies and
everyone was like oh but like it didn't really lead to anything and it was his last impressive
shift of the period but by my margin uh margin um but jesse here's what i want to know yeah because
a bunch of people tweeted it at me they're like you know there's no cheering in the press box guys
and i know that and i do have a gear where i can suppress it but there are moments where everyone
in the press box reacts was the domey ankle breaker on rucker mcgrorty one of them did that
get a reaction in the press box no every i i'm like they're like oh yeah yeah but like on saturday
no everybody was pretty like i'm in my laptop doing my work and that sort of stuff like so you
can't even like watch a player just completely eat shit into the board and go damn like like
you're not it's not positive negative there wasn't a lot of that on saturday i'll say that okay like
There's a lot of just like neutral reactions.
For anybody that didn't see it,
should we bring that record McGordy?
When he got deep?
Yeah, I'm going to have to pull that up, Domi.
I didn't know until after the game that it was McGordy.
I saw it in real time and I went, oh, shit.
Right, right.
He just completely got wrecked.
Welcome to the show.
He did.
And you know what?
It's going to happen to a rookie.
Of course.
You expect that.
I'm not saying that that is some sort of hit against him,
but man, it was bad.
There you go, buddy.
here you go so tommy just shifted right before that you could barely oh who the guy behind him
no no the cloud of ice there's oh he goes for the hit goes for the blue line and
tommy is quick on his edges eh like he can turn fast yeah he's a really skilled i wouldn't say
like he's the like fastest straightaway skater but in terms of like spinning and turning and
working his edges and getting up and down the ice
and changing direction. He's one of the
best out there. I'm wondering how long it is
and they had a good game on
Saturday and their numbers are insane together
but I wonder how long it is before
they give Matthews Domi another shot.
I know that they're...
Not while Tavares is out.
Not while Tavares is out. Okay, that's fair. And if he's
just dealing with the sickness,
which again, Southern Ontario,
everybody's sick right now. He's down with it.
He might be... He'll probably be back
wednesday at some point yes but game by game 20 or 30 i hope they've tried it that's all i'm gonna
say i like i like domi at center i uh yeah how do i didn't even know how his face offs were like i
didn't even check that but uh above 50 i believe great there you go fantastic i i think domi works
at center and i think as long as tavaris is out you keep them there and like even when tavaris
comes back maybe you found your solution with 3c i was thinking over the weekend yeah which would
be amazing right yeah because we need i think for them you know everybody's gonna you know there's
going to be people that are are throwing a parade when when marner re-signs and then there's going
to be people who are bemoaning it i think it makes a lot of sense to have the cap structure they have
if one of those guys if they can find that that center and they can have a one two three strong
i'm not a stupid man if marner if every game he has is like that one he can yeah he can stay yeah
absolutely absolutely so i'll help build the statue so i'm looking at i'm looking at this
and i'm going okay so if they have maybe they do find their answer it with domey at 2c and then
tavares i'd love a tavares patch ready robertson i feel like that could be a lot of fun yeah um
and and and think about how how hard that is to match up against if you're any team you just need
one line that you know isn't a liability like the kawaii thing why is he in the game they made that
observation really quickly with uh patch ready robertson um domey the second i saw it on paper
i'm like well they're gonna get hemmed in it was their first shift yeah they got hemmed they might
score they might even outscore you to one but they are going to allow one what i like though is they
seem to want to move off problems very quickly they went nope and holmberg there i'm like yeah
of course that makes sense my favorite place for robertson was with willie and domey and i think
oh robertson i know like his expected goals numbers aren't there but if you're if you're
watching the game you see he's doing a whole bunch of stuff that he wasn't doing last season
yes constantly moving and you saw that directly through the two penalties he drew like Domi found
him twice in this game and both times Robertson had the puck on his stick and he was dangerous
and it caused two power plays for the Leafs I think those little things Craig Berube's noticed
them and Robertson's looked fantastic I think him and Domi and Nylander are playing great
isn't it they they went to uh it was Holmberg patches Robertson in the preseason I don't know
why they didn't start with that yeah yeah like you said they they changed off it I I think too
since he's been back in Bobby McMahon's looked really good uh and it's it's so interesting
because if you had said to a Leaf fan who has a vague understanding of Bobby McMahon and a vague
understanding of the type of hockey Craig Berube likes you'd be like wow that's a match made in
heaven yeah and yet he didn't have a great preseason he was he didn't have a great preseason
wasn't on the opening night roster and isn't that interesting now he's come in he's played really
well he's been the Bobby McMahon that we knew before the injury last year but I think it's just
it's sort of I thought that was really fascinating how it took a little while for that to come
together yes because it's you know when you say a little while i mean like a month training camp
they weren't seemingly on the same i mean it took him what 20 games of just playing the role of a
plug last year and then they were gonna healthy scratch him someone got hurt or sick or whatever
it was they threw him in he scores a hat trick right um you know this guy's had a semi-charm
little nhl career right well i think he's he's also like he's like lorenz in the sense that he's
just every minute has a has a cup of coffee with the Leafs scores his first NHL goal against
Detroit they call it back he and he never gets another one he never he never gets another one
during that call up if I'm not mistaken and it wasn't until the next year that he got it
he's just had a fun fun little ride what do you think um what do you think will happen guys and
Jesse this apparently came up at the scrums today Timothy Lilligren uh Steve you were tweeting about
it can we start i want to start first with what you found out down at the rink yeah so a practice
kicked off and they're they're doing all their line rushes and everything and lilligran's up
with uh benoit um ahead of everybody else and so they're going all day and then at the end of
practice brew based or they bring out lilligran and he talks a little about why he hasn't been
in the lineup he was very disappointed in the training camp he had and we asked him if like
he had any reasons for like hey is there any reason why you had this disappointing training
camp he couldn't really give a reason he's like you know just didn't fall the way i wanted to
didn't vibe him you know he's still here he's still here he's still trying but he admitted like
yeah it wasn't great and i fell out of the lineup but it looks like berube said that most likely he's
gonna play wednesday and great be back in the lineup which is the smart thing to do when you're
paying a guy three million dollars you might as well use them yes that's steve dangle said today
yeah i mean uh like timmons has been fine timmons has been fine he hasn't been so fine that you
keep that pairing intact uh when you have two spare d like you just don't need to um one of
them like lilligren like the conversation with lilligren was i don't know if he's two million
dollars better than timmons he's better than timmons though like he's probably better than
him i just don't know if he's more than two million dollars or almost two million dollars
better than tim and so he's honestly probably part of your optimal lineup right now it's just
you know that three million dollars is probably better spent elsewhere but
right because you got him yeah and i understand when you when you watch all the defensemen and
you see who's been in the lineup so far i understand true living's philosophy around
the big guys why tell it tell me about that you see the impact that berube loves um throwing guys
to the the boards and battling that way during practice so like you'll see a lot of board battles
and that and doing those drills uh we saw that today and lilligren when he's up against some
guys who are bigger than him and not just height wise but just physical size wise you see him uh
have to compete a little harder for those battles to get those pucks so if you're gonna just default
to hey if they're kind of equal in skill i'm just going to pick the bigger guy and it's probably
going to work and that's the kind of hockey you want to play so i understand why treliving to
berube looking at the lineup they decide against lilligren to start the season now ben white
lilligren's numbers last year were terrible terrible oh together caved together uh and and
i think if you look at this leafs team i mean yes ben was taking too many penalties but i mean
i've liked his play and i and so i look at this leafs team and i go well they have a definitive
top four he'll get cleaned up it's uh and yeah ben one will get clean i think they have a
definitive top five right i think that everybody so there's one spot so you got connor timmons
benoit i think is gonna get scratched at some point this season they're too deep oh man that's
tough that's so brutal i know but it's not even a christmas um but until like hawk and paw comes
back and we're that's just not even a thought right now what do you need to see what do you
think craig berube needs to see from a timothy lilligrant like suggest you talk about those
board battles when you were talking to him today and i don't know this because i've never been down
and reported on a game was he on his skates or was he off what do you mean when he came out to
talk to you guys uh he was he was in his shoes he was in his shoes okay were you eye level with
him are you taller than no i'm taller than him you're taller i'm taller than most people yeah
Yeah, you're 6'3".
But, like, you know, so they got him listed around 6 feet,
but, you know, the NHL kind of...
He's tallish and...
But he's not huge.
Right.
If you look at the right-handed defensemen
ahead of Lilligren in the lineup,
it's 6'3 Timmons, it's 6'3 Tanev,
it's 6'5 Philly Myers, you know?
Like, there's three guys who are huge.
Yes.
If you're defaulting to size wins the end of the day,
the battle then lillian's gonna lose out so you want it's not size it's meanness right and he's
not mean you want him to out compete that size that he lacks there and i i assume that in the
last couple days in practice as the season started they're going to give him that opportunity to try
that you saw a little about you saw a little of that today when he's competing out in practice
but one of the things that we've we've i think elite fans generally have been i don't think
anybody is concerned about a lack of skill everybody knows that their skill there you can
score um what i see and and what's frustrating as a fan is you go uh can you show any emotion
in front of the your own net can you well can you slash anybody can you move anybody and that
i think is going to be the thing to look out for wednesday night that's the recurring complaint
with him and that's one of those things where i think as a coach you're like i'd really like to
see that that would really tie the room together the thing that lost him his spot in the lineup
was just dumb giveaways that lead to a 30
second fire drill in his own end, screwing
up a breakout because he wasn't paying
attention or he picked the wrong guy, like
terrible body language.
Like just Tim, we're well aware of what
you can do.
We know what you can do.
Keep it simple.
It's fine.
When the opportunity presents itself, we
know you're skilled enough and a smart
enough hockey player that you'll take it.
You don't have to do that every play.
So it's like the Nick Robertson thing.
You don't have to make the team with every
shift yes yeah yeah get us you have a contract you're good get us to the next shift and then
the next one and the next one just don't screw it up you're on the third pair that's what that's
a good night is a zero zero night for you while you're on you're the third pair shouldn't notice
them at all in the third pair no yeah we saw three games in four days none of them featured
joseph wall obviously on the ir not available until next wednesday they're alive where do we
stand jesse he practiced they hit him from us it was funny oh they hit him yeah so they they
hit joseph it's funny it's funny to go to these things and i'm learning the beats of how the
leafs operate from top down so they can do certain things like hide guys afterwards from the media
and they can hide guys beforehand too so joseph wall was out on the ice uh berube i was gonna say
chief but i think it's really a little calling the media i don't know yeah i'm not on the team
brube and he told us that wall was out on the ice today before uh the practice so he's been
out skating and they're taking it day to day but um they'll see how it is each day but so
he's skating around which is a good sign but it doesn't look like he's like close you know really
so we'll see if they're taking it day to day that's all they got for us that's crazy that's
That's crazy.
But he's skating.
Great opportunity for Hildeby.
And great opportunity for Stallers.
And they've both looked really solid.
Well, and the schedule is so light to start the season.
Stallers is probably going to see a lot of games.
They don't play until Wednesday.
And I think they don't play until Saturday after that.
By the way, can I just say how annoying that is?
What?
We've waited so long.
And they gave us three games in four nights.
And then we get two in seven.
It's weird.
Screw you guys, man.
it's weird because they're all at home yeah four game homestand i'm pretty sure and it's all spread
out over a week and a half yeah yeah it doesn't it doesn't make sense their november schedule
super weird too is it i haven't looked at it it's uh here i'll bring it up just i i had to get
acquainted with the the leaf schedule just because of all the the book tour scheduling and everything
so okay they play on the second and third there's a back-to-back fifth two days off back-to-back
two days off back to back two days off and then they just don't play for the rest of the month
basically they play on the 16th against edmonton three days off 20th against vegas three days oh
24th against utah two days off wednesday against florida two days off tampa i'm gonna die
it's i need more much rest like i don't know you're gonna if wool's not back you'll get to
see hill to be three times in november that's kind of neat they have three games in 13 days
yeah yeah man why uh sign more books yeah that's why damn it that's why that's why and uh it's not
all official yet but we're filling it oh man so uh very quickly on on uh bloomquist because i
thought it was important for pens fans to get this in here he looked good and i thought that
uh uh josh yohi and actually josh uh no no he he echoed a lot of kind of what i've hinted at i know
listen i'm going into a penn stream tonight and already pittsburgh fans are like great so i get
to watch adam for three hours trash my team and i'm not gonna do that but i think it's a jari's
an important one because uh lost his job for the final 13 games of the season last year that's a
month yo no one elkovich yeah you know not even like the to anybody that we're like you lost it
to the guy who lost his job to like well i guess villi husso's not bad he's on waiver hurricanes
yeah it's it's um no one has any patience with their goalie anymore well i think specifically
with this guy and well look around the league though like husso was on waivers right yeah i
I think Colorado's
going to get sick of Georgiev fast.
Fjorgiev?
Fjorgiev. They called him,
which is mean.
It's also pretty
catchy. No, people
just don't have patience with their goalie anymore.
Jari permitted six goals in the
6-0 loss to the Rangers opening night.
Blomquist
played well against Detroit
in a 6-3 win. I thought he did
well against Toronto.
yeah it was that was it like that simple start against Detroit was enough for them Mike Sullivan
to be like yep you get the next that's that's how much they don't like Tristan that's how much
Tristan Jarvis like teetering you know so I got one game and that's it one and the other guy looked
at least decent so you don't get the next one listen I hate to say that I said so but on July
1st 18 months ago or whatever it was 2023 I said that's a really weird contract and they shouldn't
have signed it who jars yes he's one of the most mystifying goalies because he is he can be amazing
Every year you look at his stats and you're like, this is like a well above league average goaltender.
How come every time the game really counts, he's unusable?
And that's what Penns fans keep asking.
I don't get it.
They all will tell you that.
They're like, yeah, he's great until you really need him to be great.
He was an all-star, I think, as a rookie.
Yeah.
Like, it's crazy.
There's a reason they moved off of Murray very quickly.
It was like, ah, no, we can do that.
They won two cups with that guy and he took one step backward and they're like, throw him straight in the bin.
we are all in on jari with with the penguins they started off good on saturday like it was a good
little it was them and they got the goal and everything but once the game got into flow of
everything you mentioned a little it's just you see how much they're lacking up and down the lineup
like having bevilier no offense to him but having him with crosby and brian rust it's like that's
not enough that's such a kyle dubas line that's not enough for your first line to be a playoff
team in defense of kyle they have at different times during his career always done this to
sydney cross i know one there but you when it's that and then you go down the rest and there's
nothing there it's not like they have the third line like when they went no with kessel and then
when the benino line with malcolm has consistently gotten better line mates yeah and that's he's
getting bunting right now you know and malcolm's getting blessed with bunting and it's just they
should be on the penguins first line they lack so much in that four group it's just not enough
Right, and that was Russ' first game back, wasn't it?
Yeah.
Yes, it was.
So, like, it's a little unfair to judge him.
Yeah, yeah.
But Pavilion, I think at this point,
the guy's been on, like, four teams in five years.
I don't know how much of that's his fault,
but I would say that I think teams know what he is.
I think Pittsburgh knew what he was.
I don't think anyone's gotten to know him for long enough.
Well, maybe not.
Yeah, maybe nobody knows who he is.
Holy smokes.
But, you know, you look at the Penguins team,
and again, this isn't a trashing thing.
My question with the Penguins is always,
where are they going?
what's the ethos where are you headed towards there's parts there i of course i know i know
of course there's parts there i know i know that decor is uh but house of horror absolutely
and it didn't need to be doesn't have parts you know yeah you're right yeah hey you know what you
know what else has parts the ducks they got lots of parts they do legitimately parts i know all
cars have parts yeah sabers holy shit did i get fooled by their parts yeah no kidding it's not
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Is it too early to hit the way too early panic-o-meter?
depends who we talk about what team we're going to talk about the only team where it's even
possible that they've lost three in a row and that is the edmonton oilers uh now we all know
how last season went i get it i get it they started what was it two nine and one or something
two eleven yeah whatever it was they are oh three and oh right now did you see uh washinsky's tweet
no fire woodcraft uh their differential in goals is double they're 32nd in the league
they are double the next goal differential which is minus six they're a minus 12 in three games
it's gonna stay that way too three goals for what 15 goals against i know that it's early
but you would not have expected the oilers to have a start like this is that fair guys
yeah but you compare like the how much is it over meter and the buffalo sabers who are one in three
and with a minus four differential there,
how much is it over meters at like an eight, you know?
And Edmonton's is that like a two?
You also can't, you can't put too much into individual games.
Like the Sabres are 0-3.
They play Florida.
Oh, well, they're dead.
Nope, they beat Florida and they're fine.
Right.
And so Buffalo's better than Florida.
That's how it works.
Yeah.
Yeah, no.
It works.
Right?
It's games happen.
You put more into the trend.
There are bits, though, that I'm worried about with Edmonton.
There's bits.
Number one, Stuart Skinner, who emerged into a goalie I thought could win the Stanley Cup and could steal games, has looked terrible.
I'm sure he'll be fine.
He doesn't look fine right now.
uh i saw the second defensive pair of the oilers on paper is nurse dermot
dermot sir is are you all right jeff jackson told you that was jeff jackson guy dermot's a
jeff jackson guy connor brand okay he can be on your team he can be on your your second pair
what are these the 2019 leafs dude that's freaking what are you doing i know what yeah you got rid of
one and cc to bring in another and term it i know um that's insane but the most concerning one there
was a goal the other night where mcdavid uh looked awful uh i think it was mike gould uh on twitter
and you don't see people posting this very often when a goal gets scored against the others but he
goes watch 97 on this play and it wasn't that he looked lost out there or lazy he looked
uncomfortable what i didn't like that because like what's the context of that shift you know
you yeah that's isolate one play where mcdavid's getting beat was he out there for 90 seconds and
the other dude just got on the ice yeah like what's the concept i never like when people
just isolate 10 seconds of a hockey game because there's no context around very fair point you know
One thing I was looking at on moneypuck.com was their shooting percentage.
And it's last in every category.
Of course it is.
So one, they're 31st in PDO.
So that's an important note where they're not getting lucky at all.
They're only ahead of Colorado right now.
But their shooting percentage on...
Who also haven't won.
Who also haven't won.
That's crazy.
They're only on two.
That might be the Western Conference final and neither of them have won.
their shooting percentage on shots that hit the net last shooting percentage on unblocked shots so
clear shots at the net that are not blocked last and the shooting percentage overall last they're
not getting lucky at all in these three games goals called back first tied for first like yeah
everything that could have gone wrong so far has gone wrong i don't think that'll continue okay
Then what about the 0-2 Colorado Avalanche who have scored eight goals but let 14 in
in two games?
Borgiev might not be enough.
I think their meter is higher than the Oilers' meter.
Okay.
On the how much is it over?
Because the goaltending seems like a real problem.
I thought they might claim Huso.
Yeah, me too.
I really did.
Me too.
Because with the Oilers, you can't really point to an individual thing.
You can't say Stuart Skinner is like washed or anything.
He just went to Stanley Cup final.
He's fine.
dry saddle mcdato get it to go get it going eventually the defense like okay the dermot
thing's not great no it's not a problem yet i don't have a problem with him being like your
seventh defense right like the fact he's in your top four is slightly psychotic but with colorado
you say the goaltending is an issue and it's an issue now and it's going to be an issue unless
you solve it moving forward you i mean you got to give annan in a run here uh i think it's like
is he hurt am i missing something i don't not that i've seen like what you have you have two options
here um you let your starter play through it and figure it out or you go to the other guy the trend
league wide is starter be damned go to the other guy right and just figure it out uh and i mean
that's that's sort of what happened with jack campbell last year is he he fell off stewart
skinner like stewart was worse stewart i i don't forget skinner was worse campbell went down
found the AHL but he found it yeah he did find it but Campbell went down to the AHL as an 870
something which is unusable Skinner was an 860 something which is worse so he's worse than
unusable and but the the reason their season Calvin Picker that's right well and I look at
the but the reason that they didn't send Stuart Skinner down is everybody knew he would find his
game and nobody was going to claim him I think there's something to the idea that goalie wins
are an entirely useless stat so georgiev is consistently among the top because he plays
so much and he wins all the game uh his fan base still calls him forgive and he started this way
yeah uh i think there were i think my stat at the beginning of the season was 13 goalies have
won 50 games over the last two seasons combined ilya samsonov is one of them vtech vanachek is
another uh martin jones won 28 games two years ago straight up saved the league season midway
through last year he doesn't have a job yeah he put seattle in the playoffs yes yes like wins don't
matter like people yeah there's goalies who can get you to two points and there's goalies who
give you a chance to win a play and eustace annan and he picked up the loss in their second game
because he he's played both both of their goalies has played both games that's a great
that's because it's awful and like he let in in the first game it was it was two goals on four
shots to the ananon yeah to close out the georgia mess and then in the second game he gets the loss
you know that's so ass he allows two goals on 13 shots in that game so it's just the whole
goaltending thing is a mess there uh you uh you really expect your game to be better than that
yes but or can you you don't have time maybe not it's been two games and both times it's been
horrendous goalies have been going on waivers and they haven't bitten on any of them like um
who got kakinen didn't someone claim uh off of winnipeg yeah who stole them capo kakinen
like you're you're at try something anything territory here the reason you can't claim
huso is the 4.7 i understand 4.75 you know i don't think colorado has that space to do that
So he's got the one year left at 4.75.
If you can get Detroit to retain here, why not?
Right.
And it was Colorado who claimed Kakinen.
Oh, it was Colorado who claimed Kakinen.
Well, that makes sense.
So there you go.
So I said you got to give Ananen a run.
I mean, how close to just ditching Georgiev altogether are you?
How soon does Kakinen get one of these two jobs?
You know, starter or backer?
Well, all he has to do is presumably win one.
It's not like the last few years have gone awesome for him.
No, there's a reason Eric Comrie beat him out in Winnipeg.
There's a reason that he's on waivers.
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The next one I want to ask you on the
deserve to freak out a meter
is another team that I would not expect to see
at 0-2 to start,
which is the Nashville Predators,
a team I've been particularly high on.
Only three goals for.
This team was supposed to be a team that could finally score.
They've only allowed seven goals,
which for a team that has played a couple of games,
that's not bad right but you'll look at and again we're two games in as of this recording
this can all change tomorrow just that's what's so fun about the early season but
nashville predators need to score goals yes they need steven stamp coast to do this they need
jonathan marsh also to do this do you feel do you if you're them is there any level of
concern because they colorado very clear that they are otherwise they're not pulling a goalie
off of waivers well colorado's problem is uh-oh all our goalies are healthy and they stink
nashville's problem is oh our like one of our best goalies in the league is hurt and you could
pretty easily explain that and also they they even if even if soros had been in if he'd allowed
seven goals in the first two games nobody cares no right it's whatever oh you go oh it's uc he'll
be fine yeah um no that's a big eh for me they took a while to get started last year yep um i
I think they're going to be totally fine.
And Stamkos in March or so.
Set them up with an early season U2 concert.
Just pull it away from them.
Hell yeah.
Here, let me just check.
When are they in town?
And when are we not?
We're not frigging going.
I'm going to take them to see Megalopolis instead.
Oh, man.
Just make them mad.
Super mad.
Yes.
All right.
Okay.
Just wanted to check in on those.
Those are the three worst teams in the NHL by standings currently.
Edmonton, Colorado, and Nashville.
and by the way the bottom four is carolina at 29 uh and the other and another playoff team the
washington capitals at 28 dude i love the beginning of the season but whatever who cares now here's
here's my ask of you guys okay there are seven teams that haven't got a win yet actually hold
on that's that's a lie there's you stupid idiot there's one two three four five six seven eight
teams that have not got a win yet holy crap really the Canucks the Sharks the Islanders
the Capitals the Hurricanes Predators Avalanche and Oil okay of those eight who will be the last
team to win a game oh this is good you know this isn't exactly fair because the Caps and Hurricanes
have only ever played you know one game this season their fans must be starving I'm sure
they're playing later today but um what do you guys think okay who's the last one to put a w on
the board so i'm just gonna go with what's the most fun which is unquestionably one of the
oilers or canucks unquestionably oilers you go oilers it's more fun wow jesse that's mean
it is more fun i'm rooting for you edmonton i'm punching up uh they were in the cup final that's
true i'm gonna go with washington really they didn't have a first game but it's literally one
game you can't take everybody has a bad game you're a practical answer you suck i'm gonna go
with washington is the least likely like they will be the last they're gonna be the last team in the
nhl this season to get away wow capitals wow okay i like that yeah and then they're gonna probably
win today now i would put i'm gonna be wrong i'm gonna i'm gonna go with the most practical which
is the san jose sharks because celebrini and he's on my fantasy teams both of them yeah that's right
is on ir you big and one of them has yahoo has it listed as he's an ir guy espn says he's day-to-day
which is crap because now i can't claim oh i hate that oh crap now he should be on ir i know he
should he ducks ducks are 500 are they winning the division you have to ask the question why
you like that's tough i don't know you have to see uh uh now um this morning uh there was some
footage from practice that we can't play um of rasmus dowling and peyton krebs oh yeah beating
the absolute shit out of each other after rasmus dowling dropped a massive hip check into peyton's
thigh knee area and people were like man buffalo just got their first win do they really need this
and i think it's funny that just afterwards and jesse i'm going to send this to you
uh there was a uh an instagram post by peyton krebs oh great referencing the incident
now uh just putting out the fire the rumors are that krebs may have hurt dalene in practice at
some point in the preseason yeah which is because Darlene was hurt in the preseason sure okay and
so here's what Lindy had to say about it before we get to Peyton can I can I with that little
tidbit yeah Krebs hurt Darlene in preseason I don't care like with regard to today's incident
I don't care it doesn't matter yeah okay I'm just anyway like okay continue so Lindy Lindy said
boys will be boys Rasmus got bumped the drill before and then evened up the score I wouldn't
read too much into that we want competitive practices okay fair fair and then and remember
this was a hit that turned into a fight they both dropped them afterwards and the team had to split
it up sure so here's what peyton krebs posted on his instagram let me guess he's hugging rasmus
it's pretty close he's about to ah he's about to so so we're pulling it up here we go he said
hugging my best friend when we score at rasmus dolly which i think is great it's a picture of
them on the ice i like that i like listen listen uh teammates scrap in practice i'm not gonna
finger wag at that at all i just i thought throwing that hit was really stupid especially for
a kid essentially he's a kid who just got named captain how much older is he than Peyton Krebs
like they're probably about the same age yeah um I just thought it was really stupid like you're
you're such a thin team isn't Krebs on like their first line or something like that or he was
Darlene is a year older than Krebs you're worried about an injury yeah right like and yes you can
get injured fighting all i'm saying is i've seen fights at practice i've never seen hip checks at
practice what the hell is that the big hip check i've never seen that and then and then he goes
right at krebs like he's the one who threw the hip check well i was clearly from some some other
point in time but they obviously chatted about it in the drastic yeah and it's cool that they're
boys again and everything's fine and whatever uh i think the reason it's fine and it's no big deal
is no one got hurt yes of course well nobody got hurt so why are we worried about it but no thanks
to rasmus no hey that doesn't sound like a question that we were worried about you know
it's gonna suck when they rip five straight wins and this is why it happened yeah well i can't wait
for you to get clipped and that's gonna be passed around um the ottawa senators uh won an absolute
barn burner today eight to seven this afternoon now what's lost in this if you haven't been paying
attention is the goalie that got them their first win lena solmark at home is injured so they brought
up mad so guard and uh anton forsberg started what happened midway through this game anton
forsberg got injured so mad so guard had to come in and it was wild so guard's a good goalie so
i'm not gonna blame this game on him well no anytime a goalie has to sub in it's not ideal
right like that's we were just talking about like annan and and his stats compared to gorgiev and
you know he he was bad in relief sure but it's uh it's a skill it's a skill to come in cold
um uh oh boy though eight seven you know what you're burying the lead here trevor moore i'm
in your freaking walls two shots on goal one hit that's all you got me in fantasy
in an 8-7 game, Trevor?
Quentin Byfield apparently was zeros on the stat line, too.
What?
I know.
Kevin Fiala, two goals.
Good boy.
Penalty?
Didn't like it.
Two goals.
I have him.
Good guy.
Good guy.
Trevor Moore.
Friggin' shitless.
I feel bad for Mad Sogard because obviously he was in
and he only played a few minutes.
Well, part of the game.
But I had four goals against in that time.
Ontario teams just don't know how to have a normal one day.
like the the sends have they had a normal game yet i don't think so no they're fun
yeah they're a lot of fun like even when they're getting their ass kicked
the the brady kachuk lane hudson stuff oh yeah we can talk about that next that's that's what's
next up i do want to talk about sure sure sure well i guess we can you want to hit it now sure
so okay if you if you didn't see it we can't really play the highlight but lane hudson was
behind his own net looking to make a breakout pass and he shifted right and he shifted left
and brady kachuk is in front of you know the montreal goalie and he's trying to block him
off and lane hudson keeps going back and forth whatever it was last year's sends in a nutshell
sends are getting their ass kicked and brady's the only one out there trying yeah they were down
4-1 and he's doing that and montreal really did run him over yeah and and so lane ultimately does
make the breakout pass and whatever but then they go to the bench and brady kachuk is chirping lane
hudson and then what happened lane hudson uh helped set up the next goal how do you like them
apples well so i want a lot of people were like why is the other team's captain chirping at a
defenseman who basically just juked him just made him look a little silly it's it's it's brady trying
to galvanize his guys again which he has to do way too often wait so they won eight seven right
it wasn't yeah they did they did suits landed it in overtime so oh my god i went to overtime yeah
i went to overtime fans really got their money's worth um norris scored oh it's norris sorry sorry
sorry my bad nice to see nor scoring there you go one of those assisted there you go him in
batherson there you go um no he just he he's i think he's a good captain and when he ever plays
in the playoffs that he's going to be an enormous problem but he is i don't i don't know how many
players in the nhl try harder than brady kachuk to get his guys going he tries so damn hard is
that a function of who he is or is that a function of where this the senators have been team chemistry
wise imagine your brother was matthew kachuk yeah would that bother you yeah yeah it would piss me
off okay just a little bit and like i think he was a really competitive guy before his brother
decided to wreck the entire world right uh give give brady's uh give brady matthews supporting
cast i think he'd do okay um but he hasn't had that exactly i i have no idea the the sends are
a great team to follow
because
you do not know what
version of them is showing up any given night.
Right.
Are they going to get run out of the building by the Habs
and get nothing accomplished? Maybe.
Are they going to hang eight
on the Kings with their third
stringer in net? You bet.
They're fun. They're fun. You got to
admit they're fun. I'm looking
at the box who are in the breakdown is interesting
because both teams
won two periods.
so the kings wait yeah i guess well not two periods but yeah if you because there's four
right so if you look at it that's gotta be rare actually it's two ones so you had
i'm wrong here la ottawa 2-1 in the first la scored three in the second but ottawa scored four
love that and then they each scored two in the third frame and i got that mixed up and then
i know big dumb dummy stupid head um and uh yeah i mean you brandt clark with three assists
Anze Kopitar with three assists Fiala two goals Kempe with two and then you have Bathurston
three points Norris three points Stutzler three points those are the guys you want scoring
um I I don't look at this game for Ottawa as anything other than yeah well you've lost your
first two starters or whatever if I'm LA I'm a little worried dude it's not great this is the
time of year in fantasy hockey where you just don't you don't even dress your goalies don't
I don't have a choice in my leagues I have to oh yeah you need a certain amount of starts yeah
Damn, I forgot about that.
No, because just defenses are frigging horrible.
It's the last thing to come to teams.
They don't figure it out.
They just, I don't know, I don't really understand the coach yet,
and we're down two goals, so whee!
And they just do whatever they can.
It doesn't matter.
There's no structure.
It's pond hockey out there.
There's going to be a bunch more games.
Darcy Kemper was on for all eight goals against.
Oh, my.
What other goalies have they got?
uh that's a really good question yep yeah it's sure is it oh dave ridditch is the backup in la
oh that's great i like that when cool did half the teams in this league not have a goalie like
when did that happen you're you're are you disappointed with the talent of the goalie
pool in the nhl it i mean there's a lot of teams where you're like i could use a goalie
They could use a goalie pretty bad, and the Kings are probably one of them.
I don't think there's, like, 32 guys right now you'd say are bona fide starters.
No.
Right now, we're trending towards an era where tandem goaltending is going to be the favorite.
You know, and you can probably win with that throughout the entire regular season,
and then you kind of pick a guy when he gets to the playoffs.
It's kind of, I don't know, I feel like the Bruins should have just hoarded Allmark.
Just hoard him.
Just keep him.
Right.
who cares i look at a situation like the islanders who have like a clear number one in elia sorokin
but when push comes to shove at the end of the season like last year varlamov takes the yeah the
job you know it's his we're going to playoffs you're the hot hand you're gonna be the start
of these last two weeks of the regular season and into the playoffs and that's more of the norm than
hey we got martin brodeur or patrick waugh or curtis joseph or belfor whoever you want to name
and we're gonna play them for 70 games that doesn't happen anymore it's so much more about
who's hot i oh man i can't remember who it was but they were talking about the four nation face
off this winter and they're like how long does sam montebo need to play like this before he's
on that team oh cj wasn't it on the was it cj b he had tweeted it and then julian asked him about
it on the show yeah he's like yeah for the olympics and the four nations montebo's got to
be in consideration here well because who it's like binnington aiden hill and aiden hill and
Skinner, who, like, what if Skinner's still playing like ass in January?
No, Montabow's easily right now in the top three,
probably top two conversation.
Minimum top five, yeah.
Minimum top five, yeah.
Like, who's after on that list?
Aiden Hill, Jordan Bennington, Stuart Skinner, Sam Montabow.
Who's five?
Let me throw a name in there that's going to piss a lot of people off,
but if he plays enough games and he plays well enough, he'll be in there.
Anthony Stallers.
I guess he's five.
They said they're going to evaluate every game.
Dude, at the World Hockey Championship, they sent both Blues goalies.
Don't tell me it's not possible.
Okay, so I want to...
Uh-oh.
It's so interesting.
What are you counting?
I'm counting the amount of games goalies used to play versus what they do now.
This is why it's jarring for people our age because we grew up in an era where Marty Brodeur would play 73 games.
Yep.
and I'm looking at the season where he did
in 2002-03
and he played
73 games. The next
five guys after him
also played over 60.
And I look at the
amount of goalies that played over 60 games last year
and it is three.
Three guys. So it's half. That's cut in half.
What is the most unbreakable record in
hockey, fellas? The wins in a season.
Actually, hold on. I'm lying to you.
I don't know what the record for wins in a season is.
Let me correct this.
This is even more intense than I thought.
Okay.
So, crazily enough, I was looking at wins.
Brodeur had 73 games played, 41 wins.
There is a guy that played 77 games that year in 0-2-0-3.
You will never get this.
You'll never get the team.
You'll never get it.
Fuhrer?
No.
There was a season where he played nearly every game.
Yeah, it's not.
Belfour.
Mark Denis in Columbus.
What?
He was 27 and 41.
Oh!
You have to go down to Curtis Joseph in Detroit, his first season there,
at 14 before you get to Roman Czekmanek at 15 who played two games less than 16.
The Czekmanek?
14 players played over 60 games in the NHL for goaltenders.
And this past year, it was Saros, Georgiev, and Hellebuck, and that's it.
That's crazy.
Most unbreakable record in the NHL.
I remember.
There's a few.
I remember.
Like Bobby Orr holds the single season record for...
Don't, don't, don't, don't, don't, don't do it.
I'm going to spoil it.
Okay, what is it?
Consecutive games played by a goaltender.
How much is it?
The number?
Yeah.
Oh my God, isn't it like 400 or something like that?
You wish.
Glenn Hall, New York Rangers legend, 502.
Wow.
Consecutive games.
That's a different sport they used to play.
Yeah.
100%.
Yeah, 100%.
That's not modern hockey.
502.
I don't think he wore a mask for a single one of them.
Oh, no.
That's right.
I wrote about that in my book that comes out tomorrow.
Oh, stop.
Oh, that made the book.
Yeah.
Well, I talk about goalie Mount Rushmore,
and you can't, in the conversation of all-time goalies,
leave out Glenn Hall.
And I was amazed how many people I reached out to
mention that like they're like no glenn hall has to be in there he's got
he there there's like career plus minus from larry robinson he's like 200 up on on the second
place guy uh single season plus minus is bobby or it's like 124 or something dumb like that
um like record for penalty minutes in a season is probably like four or five hundred no one's
breaking that 92 goals in a season it doesn't look like anyone's breaking that anytime soon
see but those 502 those are reasonable if you told me somebody one day can break 92 goals i would
be like that i believe that that's that's an accomplishment that a human could achieve sure
yeah the 500 starts isn't in the sport no never that's not the game like what's the closest anyone
has gotten since like 15 like 10 like even that's put like five maybe like only starting 20 games
in a row we'd be like i think you should fire the coach yeah i don't even care if they won most of
them like yeah yeah he uh it was or was it the rangers of the blues he did it with it i can't
remember but he uh 502 consecutive games it's never happening that's crazy you know you may
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to a new guy what do you what do i say your video uh-huh and this is something that you wanted to
mention on friday anyway and this might be yeah this this happened right after the show ended and
i was like that's not fair it's got to be the funniest thing that's happened in hockey so far
thomas vanik being traded right after the show or any of the other shit this breaking after the
show oh this is the thing you told me not to look at yes and then i didn't that's right okay good
I'm upset.
Great.
All right.
Whoa.
So every hockey team, it's a new thing.
Every hockey team's got their little thing at the end of the game when you say, hey,
this guy played the best.
We're giving him whatever.
Okay.
The Leafs.
They give people.
A championship belt.
The belt.
In every game.
I think Stoller's got it on Saturday.
Yep.
It was his first belt.
And they take the picture.
They throw it on the Instagram.
Him and Hildeby had a flex off.
Did they?
I didn't see that.
Yeah.
Just let's be shirtless dudes.
That's a hard one.
yes so the minnesota wild steve's favorite team okay they have revealed their item that they give
out to their player of the game in the dressing room after every game okay can we look at marcus
felinos what do you want to look at what do you want because i know i can't see what the belt is
but the look he's giving it suggests it's quite odd yeah so no it's good i'm gonna play this video
and we're all gonna watch the reveal of what chain the wild have decided to give the player
of the game i want to know what declan chisholm has to say oh no it is oh no a giant novelty chain
with a piece of wood on the end of it and the wood says hard and
and hockey twitter has dubbed it the boner chain retract the wild retract the franchise
at the end of every win they will give one of their players a giant necklace that says hard
and he will put it around his neck and at that moment he will be hard and he is the player of
the game so how do you feel about that gustafson on saturday got the boner on friday got the boner
necklace is this the worst thing ever no it's not the worst thing ever or okay might be the greatest
on a sliding scale of cringe to dude's rock
where does this fall because there's a conflict going on in me right now
well we always assume there was
always is always is but like there's there's some cringe here there's a lot of cringe yes
but there's a little bit of dude's rock okay i think there might be a little bit of dude's rock
no is this dude's rock no this is i don't know is this cringe or dude's rock i don't look at this
and i say you know dude's rock yeah i'm not saying dude's rock i'm saying that's awkward
and somebody should have thought this through yeah yeah like like really the social media
person who's filming this and god bless them they're doing their job they're just like oh no
they know
they have a hard job
who's the out of touch person in marketing
who was like you know what
the hard chain
they'll respond
the youngins will respond to this
and by the way we have nothing but love for the Minnesota organization
we're just joking here
is there a back story
to why the player of the game
has to wear a chain that says
I'm hard
i don't know i would love somebody from the wild to come on and explain
like couldn't you have like if you're you're the minnesota wild you're supposed to be like
a wild cat they just didn't call them the wild cats right hard cats okay hard cat couldn't they
have called them like couldn't couldn't the thing just like ferocious or something find a different
word that you could associate with a cat
attacking. You know what I mean?
Who made this?
I want to know who made this.
Claws up. Anything.
Anything.
Or just like champ. I don't know.
By the way,
the only thing that would make this a dude's rock
situation is if
they sold this in stores.
If they start selling
hard chains. Just everybody in the
stadium with the plastic gold
chains that they have.
Would that say hard?
After every win, hard, hard, hard, hard.
That would be, okay, that would be enjoyable.
You have to give them that.
Has anybody in Minnesota asked them?
I haven't seen anything from Russo.
What are they watching on TV?
They're playing music.
That's the Spotify thing.
That's like an album art.
I think it's country.
They're playing a song, yeah.
It looks country.
I don't recognize the artist, but they're.
I can't look past the chain on Gustafson saying hard.
they're into it they're okay i'm gonna go i'm gonna go this is about 30 dudes rock 70 it's 70
cringe but adam is is that enough is flurry coming on agent provocateur at any i hope so
at any point this could be his last season so i'm hoping he's able to make time so if he comes on
will you ask him about the chain yeah mark hard tree he was probably his idea yeah honestly like
this is funny probably like this is hilarious none of them know
you gotta ask him yeah comes on just ask him why like mark what's the deal
what's the deal with the hard chain jesse i'll save you a text later the episode title is hard
that or dudes rock what about what about boner necklace
do you think i don't think that'll do well i think that's a little too on the nose
you don't think the internet will react well i think that'll do bad for our general seo but it
might get us record viewership on twitter right right um just because it's all about gore and
porn um dude it's a you know what the fact that this needed to be planned and discussed and made
like they must have known i think i might bump this up to 35 percent dudes rock really
all right all right adam just knocked it back down to 32 we'll see we'll see i'm just i'm
looking for i am looking for anybody that has asked any question on the minnesota chain and
nobody has no there's nothing on nothing twitter nothing so russo tweets a lot too no offense to
russo what do they come to town it's difficult to uh minnesota yeah i felt like there was a game
in november am i wrong on that um just adam just google locker room full of dudes hard
learn to use google yeah minnesota wild november 3rd oh so that's fairly soon yeah all right if
nobody finds out by then i'll ask one of them yeah our roving reporter jesse like speaking of
okay this rules i want to get i want to get the news from it depends if they skate that morning
yeah so so here's the thing i i uh i've done i've followed people around who have done what you did
but i've never done it myself steve has done it uh for certain teams and sports or whatever
so jesse yeah average fan what's a saturday night or what's a saturday look like as an
accredited media member it's a it's truly a full day like there are there are guys there who are
cover the leaves who are just there all day because it's all they are doing that day and
they have a bunch of uh articles to fill and deadlines to accomplish so i'm not that i'm not
writing uh during the day so mine day is a little truncated um i got i get there they are on the
ice about 11 some guys are on a little bit before that but on for this is just for saturday night
hockey you get there they're the leaf skate first then the weight team comes but leafs are on the
ice do a couple drills they do a couple of the regular practices uh drills they always do like
the power play they're always out there practicing the power play and they do a couple other things
they come off the ice you give them a moment but you kind of wait around outside the locker room
the pr staff lets you in there and then there's a bunch of guys you can talk to so you got to go
in the leafs locker room yeah was that your first time yes when there's other people i've been in
there for a tour okay just as a as a casual you know but never when it's in use not when not when
the players are there for media i've been there when it's been empty um so you're in there and
they'll bring up guys to on the board you know in front of there to talk to and that sort of stuff
but like the interesting things that i noticed throughout that which i think people might find
fascinating that you won't see on the when you're just a fan um ryan reeves is one uh he's either
every time i've been to there's i've been to two skates now he's always the first person out there
or out with the first person then when he was out there on saturday there was kids there i don't
know whose family gets in because it's somebody who knows somebody on the team to be in there
at that time but they brought their two kids and these kids were yelling when they weren't supposed
to be yelling and doing a lot of doing a lot of banging kids being kids yeah fair and reeves was
the one to acknowledge that these kids are yelling at all the players and he threw them two pucks
oh that's cool he he's the hardest working guy on the team he's always out there beforehand with
the coaches that are coming out with him doing extra drills and he's always one of the last
guys off the ice so that thing where they're like he's important to the locker room you can see it
in action when you're around the team you can see that this guy is a lightning rod for hard work and
enthusiasm and everybody realizing that we got something to accomplish here we're a hockey team
and we're we gotta be working hard every single moment that we're out here so ryan reeves keeping
it light isn't just telling jokes no right it's stuff like that yeah yeah so that was i think just
a little thing you notice right away um one thing from practice today austin matthews even in casual
settings on the ice you can tell that he's the best player on the ice even in a practice amongst
other professional hockey players you can tell his skills translate more to this game and he's
better than everybody out there it's like when you're watching like if you guys ever watch high
school sports if you played on the team or anything or just like when you knew the best
player was you knew who that kid who's like 12 and you're like oh that's the best kid on that's
fucking johnny's kid you know he's the best best player on the team austin matthews has that energy
amongst other professional hockey players and you see little things throughout the practice
practice that really bring it out like they were doing a uh low drill where they're next to the
boards the net is is off to the side so it's a it's a cut off ice you know they're running a
little thing in this little circle where there's 10 guys there but they're all out there and austin
matthews ripped a one-timer in this little area from me to steve that's as good as any ovechkin
slap shot on the power play and nobody on the ice at that moment could do that but him so you you
see superstars in action in every essence of of the sense when they even are in practice so that
was uh really noticeable there but back to saturday with the game in the morning skate and all that
it was a lot of fun you know you go to the locker room so the pens come out after the
Leafs are done talking.
There's enough time in between where they're zamboning the ice,
where the Leafs talk, they're zamboning,
and then the away team goes on the ice,
and then the away team goes off the ice,
and they're now in the locker room,
and you can go in there and you can talk to them.
Crosby, my first day in the locker room.
Unbelievable.
I get to stick my phone in Crosby's face and see what he's saying,
see if there's anything quotable in there.
I didn't tweet anything that Crosby said.
He didn't give anything spicy that day.
He's not spicy, but he always talks.
He's not spicy, but that's the thing.
He always talks.
Because he knows.
he he knows what everybody's there for and it's for Sidney Crosby it's a part to say nothing
exactly it's when he wasn't he was he wasn't at his stall yet but they were coming off the ice
and people started crowding around the stall and everybody gravitated you know you slowly move over
to his area because you know Crosby's gonna sit there so he's kind of known for having crusty ass
like under equipment like like his his weird hat his weird underwear did you see any of that yeah
he was wearing a reebok shirt that he all he's worn his whole life um it's very crusty the back
part of it see-through do they even make reebok anymore no so that's why i highlight it's reebok
so there's crosby there just are you gonna put this on no i'm not gonna put this on screen
uh because i'm never sure so it's all it's all very controlled so i'm not really sure about what
i can show and what i can't show right now but we'll learn well i'll get better at that um but
yeah crosby's crusty shirt was definitely on display it's a it's a reebok shirt that he's
worn for years but um his hat doesn't have weird salt lines is he feeling okay yeah i think it was
a relatively new fanatic's hat um but crosby was there and he gave everybody who wanted to ask him
a question at the time of day you know did he sat there until the pr guy was like okay no more
crosby questions but he just kept asking and answering them and uh mike zeisberger who's
covered the team for a long time came over and he's like you know that crosby you know every
time he comes down the mayor he's the mayor of the of the dressing room uh and yeah so seeing
crosby there is really cool and then um i left after the away team stuff and then i come back
for the game um right around what time like 5 30 6 o'clock something like that i'm there i was there
at like 6 15 i didn't go too early um you can go down there there's like a media center down below
like people wouldn't know this i've been in there yeah there's they call it the media center that's
where berube talks uh when he's there during the morning skate he comes out at the podium he doesn't
do it in the dressing room but at practice he'll do it in the dressing room that's a little different
um so berube talks there in the media center before the game and after the game and that's kind
of where you get the good stuff you know the coach always he's always gonna talk before and after
and he's the he's gonna be the reveal guy like i'm gonna say oh yeah lilligren might play uh
wednesday you know we'll see how it goes like that sort of stuff wall uh he was skating beforehand
before you guys were here you know wall was out there on the ice that's where you're gonna that's
where you kind of you're not gonna get it at the arena you're gonna get it in practice you're well
in the arena too but he's gonna be the one to say the thing oh not the players right i'm getting
right okay you know like willie talked and willie willie's like i don't want to say willie shy but
He's a little bashful, you know, where he's like.
That's such a good way to put it.
It really is.
He's not shy.
He loves the attention, but he's never going to give you too much.
He's a little bashful.
That's part of why the Amazon doc is so good because it shows like it shows
Willie the superstar, which you really only ever see on the ice.
He's, he's, I'm not, interesting is not the word.
It's, it's bashful.
Yeah.
Like he's like, all right, let's get this over with.
like he's he's very friendly about how he goes about not wanting to ever be in front of a
microphone yes yes that makes sense and i think that's just the nature of hockey players you know
they default to i don't want to talk to anybody you know yeah yeah and no because some guys are
pricks about it oh yeah and they don't have to be no and well and willie case in point we all know
he hates it yeah he hates it with every fiber of his being but he puts up with it and i kind of
respect it more so a couple days in i'm starting to learn like the coach will say the thing you
know the coach will be give you the news item so that's uh that's really important and yeah
before the game i'm there like 6 15 ish i go up to the press box um you see there you can see what
they're doing pre-game you probably find out a couple of the lines things like who's actually
gonna play you know so they call come out in the skate you know jt's not out there john tavara's
gonna play you know and people some of the reporters there send that out yeah what'd you eat
yeah what'd you eat there's free pizza what uh in the press box at the uh first whistle
ish around the first period ish they they bring out free pizza there's free coffee
uh free juice and all that i told the story about me sitting in the wrong seat that was fun i didn't
have any of the pizza i'd eat beforehand um what about the ice cream ice cream i didn't go see the
ice cream but i saw some of the guys it goes it goes quick they get coffee it goes so fast coffee
coffee's good coffee's good coffee's good it's good it's free and it's good it's free and it's
good that's all you can ask for okay that's good yeah they have bottles of smart water to grab
grab one of those nice that's like a five dollar ball of water that's all right take advantage of
that it takes it take a few of those home with you why not they still got the little bags of
doritos bags of doritos i didn't see they might have been gone before i got there the popcorn
went quick too they have little bags of popcorn if you're in the press box those those went oh
what they can't replenish them come on no no they can't yeah once they run out they can't put new
ones the jay's popcorn is better step your game up please there you go so um but i think i think
that kind of covers the overall experience of the saturday you know well so i i think what's
going to be fascinating is that the first time they have just an absolute knockout loss and
what that vibe is going to be so that's where like because i know you so essentially what's
happening and i think we should talk about the plan to our listeners though like you're going to
be at as much as you can be and and yeah and there's 41 home games and you already were at one
if you know you're going to try to be as many practices you can but you have to work during
the day as well doing other things yeah we gotta do this yeah but you're going to be there pretty
much every game yeah it'll it's good to be around the team it's a different perspective and you kind
of understand how they feel about things like right now vibes are good you know you're around
the guys and like the power play struggling and they all know that but that's not that's not
anything they've been winning games three games in austin's like cool i'm captain but like i'm
going about my business and i haven't scored i don't have a point yet but like who cares like
we're winning i don't i don't need that to win vibes are good so it'll be interesting to see
how it evolves over the season and how they react when there's some adversity every team has their
first loss that isn't cute and last year it was i think it was game 10 against the bruins
tyler bertuzzi and oh that was bad and that wasn't it wasn't freaking cute no but it dictated
the tyler bertuzzi thing i forgot about right oh but it dictated that dictated like the rest of the
next month which they killed it by the way they went on they got a little hot before they went
to sweden they went to sweden took two of two came back and kept winning right and it it was
all born from the first loss that it's also when joseph waltz happy about that sorry when joseph
wall took off yeah i don't remember sammy was sammy was falling off a cliff at that point
yeah and then in december yes yes in december he's he really really hit the skids but he hit
the he hit the emersonian mine yeah it was bad it was bad um that's very cool jesse so we're
gonna be so that this is a great thing as this show develops and grows and and even at season
12 that's what you're still doing right we now have the perspective of somebody who's there every
day 13 13 oh yeah 13 seasons 12 12 total years no one can decide 12 and a half 12 whatever it is
the reality is that that i think that this you know it gives us that that little bit and and
to be honest i'm actually i have to say this very grateful to mlse for giving us a shot on this one
because they didn't have to yeah uh and we have asked before and they have said no before they
didn't it was the conversation went so much better than i could have hoped for a few years ago like
there was a time where i'm like we're never getting it yeah we're never getting and that
suited us for a bit because it was kind of funny right but after a while it's like well this is a
little sad like we're we're a network now we produce pretty good stuff we got tens of millions
of downloads it's not really funny anymore yeah no it was i i do i do have to give them a lot of
credit um and and they were the i think it started in sweden last year with you uh because they gave
you access in sweden did they not exactly they helped you so that was ah yes you're right yes
so the the way it happened without divulging too much is i had a really good conversation
with the leafs last year it was like 45 minutes and it's and they the conversation began with
no like they were very up front and it was it wasn't like it's just to be clear it's a no but
anyway let's have a chat yeah and um i you know i was a very good boy about it i'm not i'm not
yelly screamy man all the time and i heard them out and i let them know i'm like listen we're
i'm i'm gonna go to sweden uh from uh money from my own business not not from sdpn
and but i'm gonna pay my way there we are not going to make a dollar off of this trip we are
going to lose it this that is how serious i am about going there and doing this and having this
experience and blah blah blah so the swedish games were not through the leafs they were through the
nhl and if i'm not mistaken i think there were words exchanged and they were positive and that's
why we got i think also that's the first credential we had with the nhl go through
and then and then we didn't want yeah and i didn't i didn't blow it for us in sweden so
and then we ended up getting we got all-star and then we got all-star and um i reached out to the
leafs a few weeks ago it was actually pretty recent and they were like we actually meant to
call you and i went really yeah let's chat and now we're so the whole idea is we're we've picked
the best of us and now because we're like who's the least likely to screw this up jesse easily
the guy that can show up on time yeah so the only one and also like shout out the guys who
been doing this for a long time yeah it kind of helped me on my first day like david alter
who's at everything like every practice every skate every game he goes on the road too he's
also on the road games and i saw cj down there on on saturday that was great to see him at
at the morning skate and they're everybody's very gracious and very helpful and even
the scotiabank arena staff i was like okay so where's the media center exactly like what
elevator can i take to get down there because i was up in the press box and after the game like
you leave a you leave a little early so you kind of rush down so you don't have to beat the crowds
and everything i couldn't really find my way back down so they kind of pointed me in the right
direction so it was uh it was an adventure but everybody there was really nice big z big z mike
Zaisberger. Yeah, I mentioned him.
He's fantastic. He's always been so great
to us. Yeah, he loves you.
He's the best.
He's the best.
And I got to sit next to him on the
trip down to the draft.
We just talked the whole time, remember?
We're the two loudest guys on the plane.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. The plane.
The Nashville plane. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kevin McGrann, also, shout out.
Great dude. Was he...
We were chatting a little.
Was he like, and who are you?
everybody's very nice do they know yeah nobody gave you any shit i saw jonah seagull this morning
you know he was getting all his quotes doing a good job that's cool man yeah no it's great i'm
excited to see how this evolves throughout the season you know we're gonna we're gonna use these
wisely and hopefully bring to everybody listening and watching and bring you more in-depth content
you know like now that we have like hey you know barubay said this today and i saw them and this
And you can give us the context on it, too, because sometimes it's taken out of context.
We've got to go dig up and find it.
Here's what happened.
I think that'll really add to the experience of everything.
Hey, do we want to do some quick press conference here?
Sure.
Let's do it.
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A little bit of trivia for you.
Oh, Steve and Jesse.
This just popped up and I'll give full credit to Bleacher Report for this.
Three Connors have scored in Edmonton this year.
None of them are McDavid.
Can you name the Connors?
Brown.
Brown.
Yeah, that's the first one.
No.
What?
What?
So Connor McDavid and Connor Brown haven't scored in Edmonton, but three others have.
Yes.
and it can be first name
and last name.
Oh, you stink.
Do they have...
No, they don't have Logan O'Connor.
I was going to say...
No, no, as in like
games in Edmonton.
Oh, you suck.
What's wrong with this question?
Connor Zeri?
Connor Zeri?
Are any of them Oilers?
No.
So Connor Zeri...
Oh, bad trivia.
This is why you don't do trivia.
Who else have they played?
Oh, you suck!
You stink!
Who else has a name around the league with Connor in it?
Lots of guys.
There's lots of people with Connor.
Notable Connors.
Connor's area is by far the least notable.
Oh.
By far.
Connor, not Timmons.
Not Bleakley.
I'm just trying to go through this.
Connor!
Kyle Connor?
Kyle Connor!
There you go!
One more, guys!
Oh, yeah, 6-0.
And one more.
Kyle Conner.
Big name Conner.
Big name Conner.
Big Conner name.
Bedard?
Bedard!
Thank you.
There we go.
I hated that.
Why did you hate that?
I thought that was great.
Adam?
I thought it was Edmonton Oilers.
You know what?
In Edmonton.
Happened in Edmonton.
That was what the question was.
Solid idea.
Terrible execution.
Three.
Wow.
On the deserved to interesting meter, I get a three.
Out of what?
Ten?
Yeah.
Yeah, it's with the deserved to interesting meter.
I agree.
No, three is about right.
Do better.
Guess I'm going to have to.
Jesse?
Do better.
I wanted to update this because Brady asked about it.
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The Jesse Blake Hellebuck 920 safe percentage challenge is off to a heated start.
Three games, one shutout, two goals allowed, three wins, 976 safe percentage.
Let's fucking go.
I don't remember the challenge.
What is this challenge?
In our Winnipeg Jets season preview, I challenged the city of Winnipeg,
And I said, Connor Hellebuck will not have a save percentage over 920 this season because it's actually a really rare thing to go three consecutive seasons with a 920 save percentage.
And so far, he is off to a hot start with one shutout and a 976 save percentage.
Get absolutely wrecked.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Hey.
Steve, did you do, this is from David, not a question but trivia, now that all 32 teams got captains, can Steve and Adam name them all?
Did you do this on Saturday?
We started to do this on the stream, but we did not do it.
There are some shocking names on this list.
Okay, I know the Leafs.
So Phaneuf was the Leafs captain.
Brian Gionta was the Habs captain.
That was one I couldn't guess, and Hayden had to help me with.
Doug Waite at 40 years old.
Oh, you're doing the last time all teams.
Oh, are we doing?
This one just wanted the current captain.
Oh, so what we did on the stream was the last time every team had a captain,
which was 2010-11.
yeah um oh so who all the captains are do you guys want to do this i can do it okay yeah i think we
can okay okay okay can you name the team at least so i'm gonna i'm gonna go through the teams in
alphabetical order okay all right in order at least we have do you think you can name every
captain yes yeah f you like without fail without fail without hesitation okay i think i can do
easily it's nothing to me it's nothing all right so jordan eberly was named captain of the seattle
Kraken on October 8th.
Alright, there's one. Marking the first time
since 2010-11 that every team
in the NHL has a captain.
Sidney Crosby is the longest
current tenured captain holding
the position for the Pittsburgh Penguins since
May 34th, 2007.
Here is the current list of team
captains. I'm reading from NHL.com.
Anaheim Ducks.
Radko Gudis. Correct. Boston
Bruins. Brad Marchand.
Buffalo Sabres.
Grasmus Dullin. Oh, that one.
correct calgary flames
oh uh michael backland correct yeah carolina hurricanes
uh
stahl jordan stahl yeah jordan stahl correct yeah chicago blackhawk i was like wait is he
retired nick felino correct colorado avalanche gabriel landis cog correct columbus blue jackets
Boone and Jenner.
Correct.
Dallas Stars?
Maybe Ben, isn't it?
Oh, yeah.
Jimmy Ben.
Correct.
Detroit Red Wings?
Dylan Larkin.
Correct.
Edmonton Oilers?
Connor McDavid.
Correct.
Connor Zeri.
No, I'm kidding.
Florida Panthers?
Sasha Barkov.
Correct.
Kings?
Anze Kopitar.
Correct.
Minnesota Wilds?
Jared Spurgeon!
He's hard!
It's hard!
Hard!
Who's actively hard right now?
Yeah!
Montreal Canadiens.
Oh, Nick Suzuki.
Correct.
Nashville Predators.
Roman Yossi.
Correct.
New Jersey Devils.
Nico Heischer.
Correct.
New York Islanders.
Anders Lee?
No, does not play there anymore.
Anders Lee doesn't play there anymore.
Did he retire?
No, I think he's in Colorado or something.
What?
Yeah.
Is it Brock Nelson?
yo what is it barzal or nelson no it's not barzal no it wouldn't be brock nelson
andersley doesn't play there anymore right i swear to god he's i i saw him like wait who said
no jesse or adam i said no i said it can't be what's your answer andersley that's correct you
suck wait if you're not an ant there's like a lee somewhere else and i was like a lee oh my god i'm
going to beat you up i can't believe that you had me really believing anders lee is the captain of
the new york islanders why did i think i was like i made a note of that i was like man that's so
wild that anders lee's not in on the island anymore i don't know what you did i don't know
what i did either but he's uh he's on the island oh my god i'm gonna beat you up all right new
york rangers uh friggin truba jacob truba ottawa senators uh brady katruck yeah philadelphia flyers
travis connect me no oh sean couturier sorry what is your answer sean couturier correct
travis connecting i don't know you're giving me shit about andrews lee
yeah no that's way worse no it's not
pittsburgh penguins crosby you already said it san jose sharks
oh they have a captain they for sure do um classic no no who is the captain of the sharks oh no
oh logan couture hey correct damn seattle kraken jordan eberly correct st louis blues
uh oh no um
oh shit oh it was st louis braden
oh hang on is that your answer hang on hang on hang on hang on who else could be
well it's not kairu it's not thomas jordan bennington it's not crew it's it's not
krug it's not i don't think it's pareko um uh
Oh shit
Cause it was Petro
Yeah
Oh who'd they give it to after Petro
Not Tarasenko
I mean Shen would make sense
But
Steen's not there
I'm gonna say Brayden Shen
That's correct
You have to think about it
Adam
God
Adam's leading you astray
Tampa Bay Lightning
Freaking Victor Hedman
correct toronto maple east austin matthews you're welcome john tavars my brain short-circuited there
for a second utah hockey club clayton keller correct vancouver canucks uh when use uh yeah
that one correct vegas golden knights is it not uh oh mark stone yeah correct is he playing or is
I don't know.
Until April.
I legit don't know.
Washington Capitals.
OV.
And Winnipeg Jets.
Adam Lowry.
Well done!
Wow!
You've done my best efforts.
All right.
All right.
I got one for you guys.
I'll follow this up.
No, I thought we were going to wrap.
No, no.
One more.
It's about team captains.
Logan Shaw.
Next.
Name the four players who have been team captains from 2014 to 2024.
What?
Name the four players who have been team captains from 2014 to 2024.
Like now the whole time.
Ovi.
Yep.
Crosby.
Yep.
Kutcher.
Nope.
No, that doesn't make sense.
Oh, there is a weird one.
There is a really weird one.
No.
No.
McDavid.
No.
14.
What team?
What year?
14.
2014.
10 years.
Captain for 10 years.
uh only 111 players have ever hit five years as a captain that's crazy that's insane of all time
Spurgeon no Kopitar no Kopitar I was that when I was asked this I'm like it has to be Kopitar
Barkov no oh I believed you when you said it um Stahl no
marshan no obviously not
gudas no no few four weeks maybe jamie ben ben jamie ben okay and there's one more you need
one more and it's a weird one it is a weird one it's a weird one andersley not andersley i'm gonna
fight you i'm sorry i did i swear to god i'm gonna look into that remember i told you kova
Savage, too. I'm like, did they trade for Koba Savage?
I don't know what the hell you guys are talking about.
What?
Landis Cog.
Landis Cog.
I thought I already said it.
Yes, yes, yes, yes.
Yes.
I want to see
Megalopolis just to see that scene come up.
I will not see that movie sober.
No.
So you can go back to the club.
Anyway, let's hit the X show, Jesse.
Let's go back to the club.
And I'm going to do
the stream tonight.
Talking to Montreal Canadiens fans, talking to
Pittsburgh Penguins fans. It's going to be a good time.
Don't get us demonetized
with your feet.
Can that get you to go demonetized?
Yes, Adam. Really?
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