The Steve Dangle Podcast - He's 6"5 | February 21, 2024

Episode Date: February 21, 2024

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, JJ Redick is very rich and should be happy (00:00), the David Ayers game anniversary (07:00), the Leafs play the Coyotes tonight (12:00), Vegas and LTIR (25:00), the Canucks lose 3 straight (33:00), Ovi is good (37:45), Quinton Byfield is good (46:00), Pittsburgh loses on Jagr night (53:00), the OHL is investigating the Sudbury Wolves (1:10:00), 3 Stars of the week and the Panthers (1:15:00), and Justin Brazeau (1:33:00). Join SDP VIP: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0a0z05HiddEn7k6OGnDprg/join Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/thestevedanglepodcast Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/469XxW23HWWH5ihdDK8Fko?si=0a17cdafbbc54c83 Visit this episode's sponsors: You have more important things to do than worry about your IT, let EMKAL take care of it! Visit https://www.emkal.ca/sdpn and enter promo code DANGLE to receive an extra free month! The Chevrolet Good Deeds Cup is back for its eighth season empowering Canadian minor hockey teams to make a meaningful impact on their communities by doing as many good deeds as possible to Fill the Cup. Visit ChevroletGoodDeedsCup.ca to learn more. Visit https://www.liquid-iv.com/ and use code DANGLE for 20% off your first order Become your own soulmate, whether you’re looking for one or not. Visit https://www.betterhelp.com/sdp today to get 10% off your first month. Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake For general inquiries email: [e-mail] Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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podcast where i break down the last nine games the pelicans have used zion williamson as the primary ball handler 54k views on youtube which is pretty respectable but i want to call out a coach yesterday oh that'll get tens of millions of engagements that's right that's the ecosystem we live in are you fans actually want to be educated or not dude that is a fundamental misunderstanding of what your job is yeah and i feel like like jesse can you look up what jj reddick made as a player millions of dollars he doesn't need this he was a good no no not at all i also want to throw out there i want to throw out there um if if you're one of the people that bemoans the state of the world you're correct yeah like you're totally correct and but these

them's the rules and uh yeah i think more people are interested in why you're calling out doc rivers for going three and seven since taking over his bucks head coach and complaining about it i thought he actually had a good point i was like yeah doc like you took the job yeah now he's doing the same thing doc's doing doc's complaining about the job so is jj yeah yeah dude like you you're talking about a video that did very respectively that's super niche 50 000 views yeah on zion just nine games of zion as a ball handler like like who cares topic but you hit 50 000 but you should be very proud yeah no but then the doc rivers think yeah because you can be any kind of you can be a hardcore basketball fan you should you could be an intermediate

basketball fan you could be a very casual basketball dude all this all these like tiktok videos about the drama to do with basketball has made me a bigger basketball fan i don't i don't understand how he doesn't understand that calling out an nba coach as an ex-player has a broader appeal than breaking down game film he's mad he got much back yeah i don't think there's no way jj reddick's that stupid no i yeah no why there's no way a lot of it i think is that's a good thing to say on tv because now people will talk about that this is why so this is why you have to think about this though this is why he uh uh like this is somebody who clearly spent the night on twitter reading the replies yeah yeah which you have to not ask someone who has done that and that's such

a good point i'm making an effort to no longer do that that's absolutely he was he was on his phone in bed all night and he woke up the next morning went on first take and was like the internet i'm mad at you you can't do that kids these days yeah they're not as good as kids those days i have to say you know what i mean you look at like you got to think about this too jj reddick's in his multi-million dollar house or penthouse condo or whatever he lives in he's probably got a 60 or a 70 inch television he's got a gigantic couch he's probably got a beautiful family he's a good looking guy right good shape he gets to wake up and be on first take yeah what else oh who and he's pissed about probably got a really nice bagel machine he's probably got a nice car too

yeah maybe a toaster yeah for the poors rich people have bagel machines that's right well what i want to say is that that if if he had put his phone down and looked around him which i've had to do on multiple occasions and you go life's pretty good i don't need to worry about these people come on don't worry about it yeah you had your opinion you might have been a little wrong you might have been a little right people might disagree with you that's okay that's the whole point of the debate format i went to salary swish.com which is a cap friendly spinoff they they actually have a basketball version of cap friendly if you are a basketball fan and you are not aware it's called salary swish the cap friendly owns like this it is it is theirs they

made a basketball version of their hockey website cap friendly and on on salary swish almost said on cap friendly on salary swish they have jj reddick who uh signed six contracts during the course of his career they are they have a total value of 118 million dollars over his uh he's got a nice bagel machine yeah yeah yeah it drafted in 2006 11th overall play uh 39 years old currently played up until 2010 118 million dollars 2010 no that's one contract because he played against the raptors uh oh sorry sorry in the 76 yeah when was sorry 2021 the only one that counts when 2021 years though if you got into the tv rights years yeah when the nba salaries went through the roof then you're fine yeah like his last player make his last contract was uh two years

13 million dollars like and he's no one at that point in 2021 wow dude if so this is a hockey primary podcast and people are like who the hell is jj reddick oh he was a good player he he would be the highest in his last washed year he would be the highest paid player in the nhl right now oh my god and next year he'd be second yep now today is the day before an anniversary oh no yes it is it's february 21st 2024 what happened four years ago tomorrow steve dangle uh the leafs hot off a four nothing win over the pittsburgh penguins lost to a 42 year old zamboni driver who now works for them yes still works for them does

he still work for them i don't know i don't know uh because he was coaching i want to say in the sphl right how is this the second straight show that league has been mentioned that's you know what uh i i was surprised it was mentioned last time too well here we are um now because of david ayers and that game there was somebody who wanted to uh send you this and they sent me this in october and i've had it in my office you guys ready for this i've had this in my office what is it for five months and i put a note on my calendar i'm like this is when i read the notes hey adam see enclosed for a card you can poke fun at steve with really do appreciate you guys this is from colin hannigan colin got this from hooligan sports collectibles uh in barry ontaria

and it is a david ayers young guns oh rookie card goodness a young guns rookie card and so colin was just dying for you to have this and now you have it oh my god thank you great lovely wonderful that is still you know how we always talk about um the development of players being screwed up by covid yep you know what else was screwed up by covid my youtube channel was it because this that game was like two three weeks before the shutdown it's the biggest video i've ever had and all that momentum's gone wow it was gone dude that guy was on talk shows in canada he was on talk shows in the states i want to say he did one in britain um he was getting beer fridges sent to him he was getting all sorts of stuff sent to him like you could ride like how

many how many people get their their 15 minutes and and converted into like five years right he could erode that forever and world shuts down yeah yeah listen i'm not ungrateful for covid no i'm completely ungrateful for that i am completely ungrateful for covid i think it sucked and you know what you know what the worst part is is i think that that covid year saved the toronto may beliefs from being blown apart because they were so unimpressive that game was the reason that Zach Bogosian didn't get signed that season. Undefeated. Yeah, it's crazy.

How about that record? And I feel like the Toronto Maple Leafs, there would have been some massive changes had COVID not stepped in and been like, yeah, you see this shit team? Because they were playing like shit. They were playing like shit. We're going to do something about that.

You know, Nick Robertson, who you have to beg and plead with them to get them to give them any sort of minutes that matter. Yeah. Yeah, they're like, hey, what if the 18-year-old him played playoff games for us? Yeah, and got injured, I think. No, he didn't get injured during the playoff series. He did score their final five-on-five goal of the series.

He scored the 3-0 goal in Game 3 that the Leafs blew and lost. Then they scored all their goals either on the power play or with the net empty in game four in that huge comeback. And then they got shut out in game five. That's a really cool hockey guard. Yeah, it's pretty cool. I'm glad that they made that. Thank you, Colin Halligan, for that.

Yeah, shut up, Colin. Yeah, we've been working on that for months. Thanks, you jerk. In the LA Times today, by the way, the Leafs are playing the Arizona Coyotes tonight. One thing. Oh, yeah, sure. Because you mentioned calendar important stuff.

Yes. I had a note in my calendar today, too. Oh. today is the day we have to change the air filter in the basement ah that's great uh i forget it's four or six months i put in the calendar from whatever date but it's the date from last time you changed it when you messed up the size of the air filter so after the show we're gonna do that and we'll film it the building has two uh different ducts for some reason and they're different sizes and i didn't know that so did i say hey maybe i have the wrong size air duct or filter uh no

i just crammed it in with dad rage it was way too big for the slot and you just crumpled half of it together and threw it in the filter in the filter slot so it worked and we still have air don't we so today will be an ingrate today's filter day we're gonna put that on our instagram story of steve changing the i can't wait i can't wait let's see if you can do it right this time um continue adam there is a great article with rick westhead actually tweeted about it it's in the los angeles times this morning uh and it's about austin matthews and the nhl's drive to recruit new fans in latino communities and one in five here's what it says one in five people in the u.s is hispanic and 94 of hispanic males identify as sports fans uh the percentage who

fall of the nhl was just 6.8 percent in 2020 call it a growth opportunity since 40 of nhl teams play in the eight u.s states with the highest latino populations seven nhl teams now offer spanish language broadcasts and bilingual hockey themed classroom projects uh mexico city may be the site for an nhl game as soon as next fall and what's amazing is that the los angeles times published an article in austin matthews is the main picture on it and i mean oh and and so you know while um And while obviously there are other players in the league that bring other strengths and grow the game in other ways, Austin Matthews brings something that is completely unique to hockey. And I think sometimes in Toronto we forget that because, you know, it's not like it's not like the Leafs wouldn't take growth, but it's grown. Right. Like you would call this a mature hockey market. Right. Not a growth opportunity.

Yeah. Sometimes. Well, like we discussed on yesterday's show, maybe a complacent hockey market at times. Yes. Yeah. And a complacent PR team sometimes. Toronto would benefit greatly from a second team. I agree. I agree. I'm with you. I'm all the way on. They got one. And so anyway, Austin going into potentially scores 50th goal in 55 games against the Arizona Coyotes tonight is special. However, let me just run these stats by you. In the last five games, how are the Leafs against the Coyotes?

I feel pretty good. I think undefeated. One and four. One. What? Are you fucking serious? What happened? They haven't played. I usually don't whiff that bad. You're usually like 10 out of 10

Niche Leafs trivia. Jesus. Yeah, that's weird. Yeah. You didn't get enough sleep. I guess not. Wow. Okay. Okay. All right. All right. We like this. Okay. What's the next one? Okay. So the next one is the Toronto Maple Leafs last game

against the Coyotes was when? um they haven't played yet this season so it'd be last year what the fuck why am i drawing a complete blank um i know they've played at mullet arena wasn't it like last february like wasn't it like almost a year ago it was december 29th 2022 what that makes sense yeah they played the last season played them twice in the fall last year yeah so they went an entire calendar year without playing them though which is not yeah but that that happens quite a lot because you only play the western conference teams twice so they played yeah jesse's right october 17th december 29th i'm trying to remember highlights and all that's

coming to me is that weird uh overtime winner i think kapanen got against because wasn't wasn't last year the arizona in december and then wasn't vegas also on like new year's eve or something like that and it was a pretty cool game i don't remember that you're asking me to remember stuff what's happening yeah uh the leafs have in one two three four five six seven eight nine ten eleven meetings in the austin matthews era how many wins do they have against the coyotes it feels like they usually do well when they go there four four wins wow in the last 19 years the leafs record versus the coyotes between february 21st 20 2004 and february 1st 2024 is 6 15 and 3 see that i believe that i believe this is not a place that the leafs like to play

dude the early lfr leafs in arizona were unwatchable they were oh dude terrible arizona is also a decent team for like oh they were a middle stretch of their franchise history yeah like 20 didn't 2011 they went to the western conference finals 12 2012 like they were ass yeah all all the way through ass all the way through the gretzky um but i think yeah the well the gretzky coaching years okay yeah followed by the talk at coaching years um i i i think that what's special about tonight obviously austin and the team have had a day in arizona to hang around and i think that's good for him to be able to see family whatever but it is very special to be able to go home and potentially get your 50th uh in a record amount of games no Toronto Maple

Leaf has ever done this before and I I have to say the Morgan Riley thing the situation the suspension the appeal the upholding of the appeal seems to have and the Leafs have been out front with this it was Nylander who said it seems to have galvanized them in a way that a team that can be accused of not having a heartbeat on several occasions and I think rightfully so by the fans they finally got fired up about something these types of games though are the games that the leafs sometimes tend not to get fired up for you this is the kiss of death right do you know when the last time the arizona coyotes won a game in regulation no oh no yeah they've had a bit of a slip recently i don't know january 22nd you're kidding a month oh no january 22nd is the last

game they beat the penguins on a monday it's the last time they won a game in regulation and now the leafs go in there on a four game winning streak the well four game winning streak but also like we always look at the second half of a back-to-back like the game where the team's gonna play like crap like what if they save it you know what i mean you can't tell me that doesn't happen where a player's like yeah i'm not gonna they're not on a second half of backpack no no know i'm saying they're gonna be on the first half of a back to back for arizona right right and so okay let's you know we got friggin vegas tomorrow so we can't go like a hundred percent dude if you're thinking like that i don't want you on my hockey team yeah but we just talked about that

yesterday how like that happens like yeah team there's 82 games that's so many games if rick docket's my coach that's not happening canucks would never you stand rick talking canucks connects would never they show up yeah well they are on their first three game losing streak of the uh but they're competitive yes that's true even in their losses um i i hope the leafs aren't thinking like that because this is a trap game like the definition this is it right this is savars back to the islanders you go there you're against a team that hasn't won a game in regulation in a month they're they're oh nine and one in their last ten i think their losing streak is three four five straight games in regulation losses like and then you go in there you're on

the win streak you got to come up for this game like you got to show up and you can't have that mentality at all if you lose tomorrow against vegas i'll forgive you if you get this one that's the thing you know this has got to be the game here are the names of the players that are from ontario on the team on the coyotes currently oh wait no that's last year idiot why doesn't this happen with hockey db why don't you have this year that's so weird look up dumba huh just click on dumba's name yeah why well because he's on the team yeah well he's i can't click on that because it's last year's roster you can just go to this year's roster i'm trying yeah i'm trying to do that and i was trying to do it because you can sort do you want me to do this well i wanted to

sort by by province and it wouldn't let me do that so now i'm upset do you want me to read with your eyes just read it up all right oh yeah you go ahead okay michael carcone uh ontario we got you just want ontario borns yeah just just name the ontario borns uh we got josh brown sean dersey no this is last year's roster oh no no that's what are you talking about oh my god i'm gonna beat the boat literally what did i do what did i do but bring up the right wrong he's right yeah you know what jesse's right thank you you're pretty tall you're going down though travis dermot lawson kraus uh jack mcbain that's it okay none of those players are allowed to score tonight none of them if i'm if i'm sheldon keith i say to you i don't care what i need to do but

We cannot have former Ontario guys, because they're no longer in Ontario. We can't have Travis Dermott coming in and laying a hat trick on us. No Ontario guys score tonight, and I'll take you all out to dinner. You got to shut out basically the whole roster. Shut them out.

It's Ontario guys and former Leafs. Yeah. Travis Boyd. Alex Kerfoot. Oh, shit. Yeah. How did I go to Travis Boyd first? He's getting a hat trick tonight.

You know it. He's been ice cold, too. Oh, no way. Kerfoot's been ice cold. He had a hot streak, and everyone's like, oh, no. Yeah, right after we called him out the first time. And people are like, see, he's becoming the Kerfoot we all knew he'd be. Yeah, yeah, okay.

He was the straw that stirs the drink. Kerfoot's got eight goals in 55 games. Which is good depth scoring by Leaf standards. He makes more than, well, there is Tyler Bertuzzi, I guess. But he makes more than every other underachieving Leaf in the goal department. And we held him. we we had to we had to we had to protect him you know what couldn't go to seattle everyone needs to get over their hatred of kerfoot because i don't hate it dude on his way out he scored a

playoff overtime winner all is forgiven yeah there you go um so that that's what needs to happen tonight it needs to be matthew scoring i would approve i would appreciate a hat trick but one goal will be fine sure no ontario guys no former leafs and if they try to step up to you ryan reeves max domi you know what to do they're uh underratedly tough team like max should probably score a goal tonight because this is his former team that would be nice wow max has got eight of them you should probably have nine after tonight don't you think no i mean i mean former teams oh eight former team yeah like he's got a lot of former team he needs to be scoring a lot more by leaf rules he should score basically every game yeah if that's the rule against your former

team max domey'd have a lot more goals yeah so it's it's uh i don't know i'm really excited for tonight's game and i'm excited for tomorrow night's game against the golden knights it's always pretty special when you get to play the you know the stanley cup winners uh and the leafs don't get to play the nights very much it's special when austin goes to arizona it's special when you get to go to vegas anyway but they did just win the cup this is going to be great and i know they're late night games and i know they say 10 o'clock start and i know that you know and i know that that means about 10 15 10 20 well socks also you guys are burying the lead what's the lead if the leafs don't beat the coyotes they don't get to go to the sphere

oh man i don't get to go yo can i just say see the wiggles that i don't know how many of you made it to that rant at the end of the show yesterday but uh i was surprised at how many nashville fans reached out and they were like thank you was that well like preds fans are like this team is bad it's you it's great that they've been performing they won again last night they beat gold the golden knights last you stopped me right in my tracks twice during that rant most most fan base i like that they're not but there's there's also people on the other side that were like the team is overachieving if they were correct they were like okay if you're right about that assessment of the team then the team is overachieving so why are you so upset at them

and i was like yeah yeah yeah that's a good point too yeah that's a really good there's there's i think there's a lot of ways to take what happened yeah i think i think the way to take it is from a stone management squeezed harder management made a mistake and uh they'll never admit to it so there you go do you have a general opinion about good deeds yeah they're good hmm what i think that's the correct opinion what if you want a cup for doing them whoa and donated first cup we've seen around here for a while what if it also got a hundred thousand dollars for a registered canadian charity of your team's choice and it got you the title of chevrolet good deeds cup champion well gosh that'd be such a good deed wouldn't it chevrolet good deeds cup is back for its eighth

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and their hometowns. $100,000 for a registered Canadian charity of your choice and the title of Chevrolet Good Deeds Cup champion. visit chevroletgooddeedscup.ca to learn more now um i do want to say that last night this is a really interesting note for the golden knights um uh mark stone went down and we're not sure how long and i have not seen an update this morning you think he'll be back for the playoffs uh yeah it's perfect timing actually because if they want to make a trade now's the time and then mark stone will be back on game one mark stone holy shit how did he do that dude he's

so incredibly good and underrated in every way like just one of the best 200 foot players in the league do you is there anything like other than a goal as is there anything hotter than Mark Stone take away in the neutral

zone that yeah forget scoring and his ridiculous goal celebrations where he just turns into animal from the Muppets or where he kills ECHL players in the preseason oh yeah I forgot about that I forgot about that oh man who does have a he does have an angry streak shit he certainly does um there's sometimes when he steals

the puck it's it's just that it's you ever see the undertaker come up from under the ring and drag you into the hole yeah yeah that's mark stone he drags you down back into hell just just when you think you're out of it ah you see them slip back underneath the canvas are you i thought you're going to talk about a different injury when you brought up the uh golden knight which one because they moved jack eichel to ltir and the internet mob got really upset at them why because because they're making trade a little bit of shenanigans cap circumvention it's not cap circumvention at all it's like it's within the rules so it's not circumvention but you move them to ltir right before the deadline i think they freed up now like eight extra million dollars

in cap space ahead of the deadline he comes back for the playoffs and everybody who doesn't like the golden knights is that mad because they're doing what they do every year you know what what's hilarious about this uh is that the guy that used to do this was lou lamorello he doesn't flaunt the rules the way he used to it isn't like kind of you know shuck and jive with the rules the way he used to but um the gold knights are doing exactly what prime lou lamorello always did and by the way you know who else does it tampa bay did you say the blue jackets sorry not blue jackets prime uh prime loom yeah i don't know why i said blue jacket i don't know the lou jacket the lou jackets and and and tampa always does this and montreal is super mad they had like 100 million

dollar payroll did they win the cup does anyone care no i've never seen anyone object to their team doing it no so and bill foley has been on the record and saying if there was no salary cap we'd spend 150 million dollars on player salaries so and i feel foley's gonna be like win me a cup i don't care if jack eichel could play tomorrow he would be in the lineup but he can't yeah i mean So you put him on LTIR, you go get your cap space, and you do your thing. Why are any of us having a hard time believing Jack Eichel got hurt? Yeah, that's also weird. He didn't get hurt.

His injury, there's not enough there. He's not healthy enough to come back. So they moved him. Mark Stone as well. Mark Stone, yeah. And there's no reason. It's undisclosed why he left the upper body injury. So I'd be interested to see what that is.

But they're banged up. They've always been banged up. We've never raised an eyebrow when the Penguins do this, though. because we're just like yeah penguins always get hurt you know what i mean like what if the vegas golden knights are just a team that always gets hurt and also they're a contender yeah and also very good at what they do extremely good yeah remember when they kept basically an entire stanley cup team and now they're going to add to it yeah lol bill foley does not care no mullet and then t-mobile it's going to be fun two days um did anyone check if mullet is actually in

ea sports nhl 24 can someone please check that no i want to know it is it is it is yeah yeah it is so like the reduced seating and everything yes yes mullet arena is in this year's game then it's enshrined in history forever which is great well it also exists in real life yes i know but they pretended it didn't last year that's the that's the worst part yeah i know i know um dude i was uh i was at a buddy's house the other day and he had the game on in his garage garage beers very important and we were watching the carolina versus arizona game air and air air and care you stopped me in my track um on one end of the arena the the company they were advertising on the glass was like kia which is like a company big company

and then they go to the other end and it's like mavs tire depot and i was like oh i don't i don't think this game is a big draw like hey there's nothing wrong with local ads we like local ads we do like local ads i'm just not used to seeing it right on an nhl board yeah because i usually watch the leafs well and you're also watching digital boards most of the time now yes which i was a digital board i've always wondered about that so you it was on the bally broadcast you spend x amount of dollars to be on the boards at at the nhl game and you do that for and you go along with the prices and it costs a fortune but you know that you're going to be on national television every time that puck goes by right anymore or regional tell now that

the digital boards are in how much have they had to discount the in arena boards because i would think if i'm if i'm like cal tire who i think are always on the board of the least game pet smart always on the boards at the least game how much less money are they paying because they're not getting shown anymore uh my guess is a team like the leafs is like oh oh no my precious summer child yeah we are keeping the money if i were the leafs though i'd be like okay you're decreasing my ability to make money in my arena so you better give me a split of whatever you make on the digital boards see it's not the leafs that's causing this problem though it's the broadcaster right right well the nhl desperately wanted this there must be a business case well the the leafs

gotta go uh well don't don't take it up with me take it up with the broadcaster and then pet smart goes but you're owned by the broadcaster you son of a gun yeah but that's in my left pocket this is in my right pocket yeah it's totally different adam i've done the homework for you mullet arena not in nhl 24 due to licensing tempe they can't do it so it is due to licensing they can't do it no laziness i think it's due to license i think it's a uh a college thing like i don't know but ncaa thing i assume but they have not licensed the rights to get uh mullet arena in nhl 24 it is generic it's the same one as nhl 23 where it's the generic arizona arena and it has a full stadium it's 20 000 seats so uh yeah no mullet arena it will never be in the game they're

just trying to speak it into the universe right it's like the secret just got to put it out there i'm using my mind and we will have an arena that looks like this and a bunch of people in glow sticks every broadcast should begin with we're two weeks away from announcing that we're two weeks away from having an announcement i'm i'm shocked we bought land or something i'm shocked they didn't like go the extra mile to try and get in the game i know i thought that was it's embarrassing i thought they would have i'm not i'm not they uh they could have licensed it jesse yeah i assume they could have but the internet's telling me reddit's telling me uh licensing they probably couldn't well jesse they they did uh spend the time to focus on a key detail uh one

percent of the crowd is matthew nye's friends and family ah true true that'll be fun of every 100 people you meet in the building tonight will know matthew nye's there are two goaltenders this year with 30 wins name them i was gonna say alexander georgiev because he's played so much but the You have Zabin. Thatcher Demko. Thatcher Demko is one. Got to be Hellebuck. Jesse?

Connor Hellebuck. And Steve, you should have stuck with the original answer. It is Giorgia. No! And Giorgia got his 30th win last night against the Vancouver Canucks and Thatcher Demko, who has 30 wins. Son of a gun. And, you know, the Canucks are 0-3 for the first time this season, which is wild.

First three-game losing streak of the entire year, which is just wild. start the season last year on a three game losing streak uh yes those were those uh really bad games with the oilers yeah yeah yeah so that's where it's like both teams lost it's quite a difference yeah huge uh third period's a bit of an issue for the canucks they've gone into all of those games that they've lost either tied or leading uh specifically the 10-7 game which we didn't get to yesterday i think they were up five to three but they got to the door up but they got It's a door up. Wouldn't happen with him on the ice.

I do think that the Canucks are going to be fine. Yeah, it's a three game losing streak. It'll be fine. If February is a difficult mental month for I think good teams because obviously all year they've been so dominant and but there's always the like when teams are hot at the beginning of the season from the hardcores there's still like a bit of yeah whatever you got to peak at the right time this doesn't actually mean anything whatever um but from a mental standpoint you don't want to be playing your worst hockey in february either do you no and this is probably

the worst hockey yeah right it certainly is in terms of results so even though we all know they're probably going to be fine i think there's maybe a little i don't know if the word is panic but this this losing streak has their attention okay all right uh i i don't know i'm i'm i'm not worried about it at all in this life i'm sure there's some internal they'll probably have to bag skate it they'll probably have to clean up some stuff can actually be fine yeah i i feel like a lot of fans are looking at the three game losing streak as they're like hey this is a big revelation on the team there's there's problems here we need to fix it all but i think they've been lucky to not go through a slump like this so far and i think even good teams this happens to and they'll be

fine yeah you know especially just the way they play hockey is something that they can sustain for a long playoff run i don't think anybody should be concerned about the vancouver canucks now uh something special did happen last night uh arshdeep baines from uh uh surrey bc became the fourth ever Punjabi player to play in the NHL. The other ones being Robin Bawa, Manny Malhotra, and Jujar Khera played 13 minutes through three hits

and his dad was there, which was really cool. And I think it's just a good little story. I wish they'd got the win for him. Yeah, I know it is. It is really cool though. And like people have been excited from the moment he was called up. So that's awesome. Yeah. And that like debut NHL

debuts are so much more about like the families and the coaches they had along the way and just the whole like minor hockey system they went through and having just the kid you know you watched grow up reach the nhl on his hometown team yeah he's from surrey yeah i feel like that's it's even more of that than it is for like the player because there's like okay i'm gonna have a million of these hopefully off a thousand games one day and this is my first one it's obviously obviously special but the thing that like brings a tear to your eyes watching his dad in the yeah you know like that to me like that warms my heart i hope there was

a camera on him the whole time i would love to count just for science the amount of hands shaken every time they show the the mom or dad it's just like i mean the game's about them yeah it's not it is player right yeah like dude congrats dude congrats dude it's like they're in the line your kids in the nhl yeah i mean you did a pretty good job pretty damn congrats um alexander ovechkin has eight goals over an eight game streak after his first eight goals came over 43 games he's on a nine game point streak to one of those games he got two goals I think it was last night but eight goals in eight games is Alexander Ovechkin officially back a lot of my I can't focus on that why not I oh god I'm so distracted by what I my Netflix account has been locked why yeah I got a

text that says my netflix account is on hold and i think it's real oh no i think it's very real do you think i should text in my credit card i think you should yeah for sure it seems reputable are you trying to avoid talking about ovi being good no i'm not uh dude why didn't i call this didn't i like i said he was in for 35 goals this year we we allowed ourselves to be like maybe he is a little bit cooked and he certainly did look look at sure like not even like i don't think anyone was really calling him snake bitten even everyone was just like oh he looks kind of useless a little bit goals in eight straight games i mean it's the most ov thing ever it's it's the most ov thing ever he's still so far away from that record though like 56 goals i don't think that's so

far away well it's well not if he keeps scoring literally every i think that's a that's a hang around pace now yeah yeah but three more years at 20 goals when he was sitting at whatever it was eight seven or eight goals right it looked it looked far right now that he's scoring at like a goal a game like what what's he on pace for now like even if it's 25 right even still like that's he needs like two more seasons like that full seasons and then some you could he couldn't do 10 goals a year you know he couldn't stick around for 10 goals a year for five years that's a little too much but if he's put it up 20 i think ovi's got enough legs in him to do three of 20 yeah oh yeah i think that's fine that's doable man can you imagine man it's wild that that record is

gonna get broken yeah and gretzky's still gonna have like i don't know three or four dozen records every other record yeah but that record looked impossible for for a time oh now now he's gonna do it and then matthews is gonna break it so he's on pace we're talking about pace he's on pace he's on pace the assist record like there's something that'll never get broken now pace is a very funny thing because uh if you that you've probably seen a bunch of stats uh this season that kael mccarr has hit a certain amount of milestones before bobby orr in bobby orr's career if you compare and that's true but there was a stretch in bobby orr's career that we're about to approach where he just he's gonna say to kale fuck off yeah and he's just gonna take right up like one

thing kale mccarr has never done is scored like 120 points in a season yeah bobby orring title Bobby Orr scored 120 139 117 101 and 122 and then 135 and then his career kind of fell off after that dude what's that five straight hundred plus points has to get in that neighborhood you know straight it's not just six straight 100 point years all of those years except for one are at least 110 or more and four of the six are 120 or more yeah so like this whole Matthews is on pace well i think i think it's a little different with let's wait well sure uh it's a little different with matthews because it's a little bit more measurable if that makes sense ovechkin is recent right um or came at a time where the nhl started to get goofy with assists uh and with

goals just the 70s and 80s were just bonkers with the amount and i feel like it's it's unfair to do a direct point for point comparison right because i mean if you watch the way that they played hockey back then bobby orr could walk from one end of the ice to the other and no one would touch him he couldn't touch him no and every every game looked like a uh like a fantasy camp scrimmage yeah yeah like where he was where the where the star player is trying right it's michael jordan saying fuck them kids like yeah yeah playing the kids yeah yes like if the kids in that scenario had to play defense yeah ovi also just has the longevity over matthews the way it's going like nobody plays at that pace into his elder years like he has been over the last couple years like

oh he has like we haven't seen that before so if matthews can get that too and avoid injuries then maybe but it's such an impossible task it feels like we're at least five years away from legitimately having this conversation yeah yeah he'd have to pat he'd have to have a like a couple 70 goal seasons like in the next couple years to pad those stats so that he doesn't have to have the longevity right you know right so he can make up for where ovi's gonna keep going in like his 35 36 years so matthew's could kind of tail off you could have three straight 70 goal seasons and still finish nowhere close right 800 that's how great the record is 802 goals is a lot of goals 894 is even oh it's an 894 802 was the record gretzky sets yes 894 is where he left it yes

894 is where he left. And he had over 1,000 professional goals because if you count the WHA with Indianapolis and what was the other team? The Racers and... Well, the Oilers before they joined the NHL. Was he with the Oilers? No, I think it was just Indianapolis.

Yeah. Okay, it was just, yeah. Which is crazy. He used to play in Indianapolis. Indianapolis. I wonder if fans at Indianapolis at the time knew they were watching the greatest hockey player of all time. Could they even have sold out that arena?

I think they... No, that was the thing. They were the owners like, no, we're going to play this kid and he's going to save the team. And then he didn't. And they were like, all right, well, let's fold the team. Guess we'll get rid of them. Yeah. Hey, this episode is sponsored in part by Better Help.

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together we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer register today at pmcfwalk.ca uh let's talk about this um we got quit and byfield oh my god potentially the goal of the year now unreal jesse i'm gonna give you i say potentially because you got you always You don't have to send it to me. I can just bring it up. You got it? Okay. You got to say potentially because there's always room for more.

But Quentin Byfield could be the thing that saves the Los Angeles Kings from what's looking like, at least right now, one of the most disastrous trades in their history, which is Pierre-Luc Dubois for Velarde and Ayafollah. Ayafollah and Kupari. Maddie, are you seeing that for the first time, Maddie? Isn't that nasty? Yeah.

that is it might be better than Owen Tippett's goal it's pretty wicked I don't know what part of it we want to show he set a man on fire in public in the neutral zone part Jesse

I think this is the most impressive part he puts it between Wierenski's legs look at that he's 6'5 you're not supposed to be able to do this like look at him fly look at that but then literally look at his stick though look at his stick so look at his stick it's in one hand and facing the wrong way he and then foot to while

he's adjusting his stick back into his hands he kicks it up to where the stick is going to be and then sets merzligan's on fire sets everyone bogfuss isn't even looking at him because he's like yeah warensky's got this and look at that stick he's using a sherwood good old canadian tire special is it sure it's not you keep saying that but that's not sure what sherwood is anymore sherwood is owned by canadian it's a one but it's sick it's not like your canadian tire it's a professional hockey doesn't matter it's still say sherwood and that matters to me 30 pounds that's so old school of you to think of it in that way listen as i see sherwood and i think of their like ovo collab with william nylander and him carrying the ovo bag that the leafs one

you know they'll always be canadian tire they'll always be the 15 special for me okay that turned into a road hockey stick that then turned into a toothpick okay look at him look at him look at the way his body is moving right here he if he started flapping his arms he would literally fly to the ceiling he is he's just and he's gonna kick it and then he kicks it up here oh tom hanks was less lost than cast away that is uh oh columbus man there's there's there's a guy and by the way elvis if you keep not making saves you will be stuck in columbus forever that trade you want not gonna happen man i'm gonna go out on a limb and say this isn't his fault he should have saved that that's no that's just should have saved it that's an insane should have saved uh i think

you made one of the best points uh about this clip off the top when we brought it up he's six five quentin byfield is projected like when he's coming up he's to be a power forward type of player and to watch a guy who's six five have these kinds of dangles and be that light on his feet and do something incredible like this he's gonna be an exceptional player for like the next two decades of hockey it's gonna be fabulous you might be getting the west coast treatment a little bit uh but like you see that goal you see that he's up to 42 points don't look now pacific division you might be fucked right that's pretty crazy he needs moments like this to have his coming out party because yes it's been a little up and down ish by the first couple years yep a lot some people

got down on him but like there's always a belief that he's gonna figure it out and a moment like this is a great coming out party for for quentin byfield and he's only going to continue to have more highlight reel goals like this and and you know he's taking his lumps on this show but like he's he's a line mate with dubois and you know line mates share each other's success you know whether they picked up an assist or not i don't know if dubois got i think dubois won the face off now it pretty sure i'd have to watch it again the face off gets yeah that's dubois yeah but it gets one uh back onto the columbus side it does but i don't know if dubois like poked it up to byfield like i don't know if that's a set i think it was a poke or whatever but the columbus blue

jackets are not ready for this and if you look at it like look watch watch steve watch yeah it does no it's a good question i'm not sure you know what you want me you know how they just pull it off i'll play it in real time you know how they just um changed hit statistics yeah faceoffs are next yes you're making that shit up i think this is a set play no i know it looks like he jumps the face off it looks like columbus that is one hell of a read then yeah are we sure that that so watch watch the puck here it looks like columbus wins it and he jumps it yeah i don't know i mean i'm sure dubois got a piece of it it's a face off and it doesn't look at the wheels it's not clean either you know it's a little speed skip hop in a second from the

beginning of the goodbye oh shit that's like what tage thompson looked like last year unhurt that's not a bad comparable you know because they're so tall and then once their stride gets going and if you if you're thin on defense like if you can't catch oh if you can't if you don't have anybody back you're screwed oh yeah wow tage thompson i i like as a comparable because that's the only other guy his size doing shit like that yeah oh by the way uh everybody giving tage thompson shit remember he's really hurt yeah like you chill on the tage thompson stuff guys they like the sabers are down don't kick him he's hurt what i might have made a smart fantasy trade as uh joseph wall played carter verhage he has he's been lighting that shit up all right all

right morgan riley's been good except for when he got suspended and uh sergeant bobroski's been great for me uh i forgot morgan riley was in that that's right that's a big trade damn dude i got the starting goalie of the panthers are you joking that's a great trade that's a great trade okay um pens lost the jogger game in pittsburgh we didn't get this we didn't get to this but but uh i i have to throw this out there this is the game i was trying to tell you guys about a little bit yesterday where they had this game was in the bag for pittsburgh like crosby scores in the first period they lock it down in the second okay kempi ties it up in the in the third but when kempi scores against did you see the goal against jari i have not okay this goal

he's paying and i i can jesse if you want me to send you the box score thing um this is tristan jari in a nutshell which is i see it i've played a great game and i'm gonna let it go he's one of the most he's mystifying he's one of the most mystifying goalies of this generation because he's had a good year his numbers they're good yes and then you watch the goals he lets in and you go is this a call-up who is this i'm gonna die yeah dude like and they're they are killer goals like their goals that you're like oh backbreakers yes and so i think it's a real shame that they couldn't win this one game for yarmir yag it was a you can't lose this game and for them to drop you come out in the the wigs and you put up a stinker like that like you have it crosby getting

the only goal is a little on the nose he's been amazing you know what i mean oh yeah sid doing said things and no one else it's uh what's sports net players being yeah the sports net player takes a little bit of a minute it's it's they does it's

hard for it to do a little heavy lifting on that it was making me grumpy this year there you go steve all right watch this no hold on no no no no can't show that all right i'm not

trying to get sued okay now so pittsburgh takes it in the offensive zone they turn it over it's adrian kempe getting the pass okay he can pass or he can shoot and he shoots

oh and and jari sees it the whole way all right can we pause it is a It's a two-on-one. No. Steve. Yeah, it is a two-on-one. Stop.

Any goalie will tell you that makes it harder. Jari has also been good this season. Yes. This is a Tristan Jari. Adam's upset at this. Tristan Jari stinker. I mean, don't turn it over. Like, look, put this up on screen, Matty.

So, Kempe is the guy with the puck. He is going to shoot, and it's going to go right through. It's not that he even goes high. It's not that he'd even go. Like, it's not a tricky shot. it's right through his pads it's the same sort of shit that we used to see with occasionally with jack campbell and when freddie anderson was hurt it just goes you're like are is the goalie is that a is that like a hologram of the goalie or is there a goalie there well okay this this puck

could go short side it's probably not like you're jari right so what what are you thinking he's either going to shoot or he's going to pass. I mean, so that means as the shooter, you go five hole. Because he's thinking about, I either got to extend at the legs right now.

He had to make a choice because it's a two-on-one and he chose wrong. Yeah, well, no. Here's the problem. I know you need saves. Here's the problem. He gave you 30.

What's the defenseman for? The defenseman's job is to cover 84. And I don't know that person. And he's not doing it. No, he is doing it. No, he's not. He's in the passing lane. And all he has to do is step up on him, and he's fine.

And so all Jari's job is to do there is to watch the shooter, and he didn't do it. Sorry, I'm just pointing at the screen. Give me that finger. He didn't watch the shooter. He was watching the passer, which is why the shooter could score. I think this is indicative of a bigger issue that the Penguins have and not on the specific save that Jari just made.

Guys, I watched this game live. Three minutes and 13 seconds left. You need to fucking save. You need to save. What about the previous 31? Oh, and they're shorthanded? Or sorry. The previous 31 saves that Jari made to keep them in the game.

Wait, who has a power play right now? They're shorthanded. Pittsburgh is shorthanded. Oh, dude, you can't give up. No, Pittsburgh has a power play. LA is shorthanded. It was a shorthanded. Sorry, I just phrased it funny.

It was a shorthanded goal that Pittsburgh allowed. In terms of laying blame here, for me, it's on the turnover and the lack of attention. The need to protect goalies in hockey discourse is shocking. Adam, you've got to pick your battles. I think this is the right battle. This guy, sorry, your goalie, it's the power play. You watch. This guy's not going to make that pass

because you've got a guy right there who's going to block it. I think when you take a step back and you look at the overall season of the Penguins, they have so many deficiencies with their defense, with turnovers, with their inability to score timely goals, with their power play which is one of the worst in the league that it's a bigger team issue than jari who has played relatively well and okay this okay this goal here should it's got to be a stop at three minutes to go this is the game winner but it speaks to a larger issue that the team has

in terms of their team defense and team play it's not some call up you know oh stubby lemon just got called up from the Des Moines whatever like stubby lemon um you know it's Adrian Kempe it's a two-on-one I I forgive him for this one honestly yeah the turnover too is also a nice little pick out of midair yeah like I don't even know how badly I blame that player who you know what let's play nobody that you know what it's cool you know good in a good effort and moral victory no you know what moral victories are really good when you're fighting for a playoff spot by fields goal on the blue jackets whose fault was it whose fault was it yeah i mean well it's warinski getting his pants taken down and put around his head yeah ridiculous so it's warinski's fault it's not byfield it's

he's got it oh absolutely it's a little bit of both is this not adrian kempe and tristan jari have i not given adrian kempe credit have i not an all-star he's a good player man i know what are you saying i'm saying i i you're saying that i've seen jari allow far shittier goals than that this is this is a you have to you have to take into consideration it's short-handed three minutes to go yeah and there shouldn't be a two-on-one there that's on the team so i think that's lars eller uh right there number 20 i think that says 20 i think you're on the jersey so that's lars eller who's 16 if i'm blaming anybody on this goal that's uh matthew phillips who's the right winger there who gets picked off if i'm blaming anybody on this goal

it's Lars Eller for his little flip to Matthew Phillips it's kind of unnecessary why is Lars Eller out on the power play that's because Pittsburgh can't score I think that speaks to the issues they have a power play here this is the second unit okay but it's Lars Eller and Matthew Phillips yeah and they're trying to enter the zone and Adrian Kempe is like I'm Adrian Kempe I can just walk up and take this puck also that's I'm pretty sure that's Matthew Phillips like first or second game as a pittsburgh penguin uh and i'm willing to bet that uh hurt his feelings so if we watch how small he is if we watch this look at him compared to eller that's not zone entry again it's a little lazy in there it's lars eller who gets to the blue line he flips it to matthew

phillips kempe picks it off easily goes the other way scores this goal two teams that have been struggling one of them had to win i just feel like the penguins this is their season in a nutshell it's yes i agree with that here's an obvious thing that we can do right oh we fucked it up i 100 agree with that and i think pittsburgh is going to be on the outside looking in when it comes to playoff time because this has been the case all season long where they cannot string anything together that's productive i can't wait to hear about how they played really well though matthew phillips listed at um five foot eight a buck sixty oh good for him though i just thought i'd throw that out there he was the guy who um we all thought brad trail living was gonna

sign this summer because he was putting up ridiculous numbers in the minors and everyone's like yeah but he's tiny and it's like okay but the numbers interesting um the the gold the gold nights the um the kings are also playing well like let's look at yeah i don't think they're great they're they're the downtrodden kings that they were at the beginning of this year there i think they're on a four game winning streak now and the penguins if we're talking about the penguins struggling uh they lost last night again in uh overtime to the islanders man did they give up an untimely goal that's crazy wow five of them which isn't pretty no that's not like them yeah did the islanders have like a three one lead in the game yo they let the islanders score five damn it was

a it was a comeback loss to be fair to pittsburgh at the end of the second they trade they trailed three two yeah so they came back and they they force ot they lose five four and the aisles by the way wait i was kidding no aisles blew it again yeah the aisles were up in the game yeah that's not the islanders i reckon by the way i think such a different islanders were up three one i think i was kidding no that's literally i made that up no that is they were up three one in the middle of the second period and they ended up, they won though.

They won. I know, but that's painfully this season's Islanders team. You know what? It's painfully post Barry Trotz Islanders. Man,

that team, I'm telling you, they need to change a direction upstairs. I think they do. They have such good pieces. They do. It's like Vancouver.

You get, you have good pieces and you go, okay, are we going to tear this down or are we going to keep this and make a few subtle adjustments

and not signing guys who were born in 1960 the horses they have adam 1960 yeah oh lou's a little older than that and i'm not talking about lou i'm talking about the players they signed oh that we need to we need the oldest guy in the league every year except for mark giordano that's i was about to say that's pretty rich the leafs actually have them yeah but they don't have a team of them right i think what the islanders thing is you've got such an incredible goaltender you've got amazing defense you do need some scoring and you need you need to figure out really what your identity is because they used to be with barry trotz you knew what they were

that could be a pretty unreal like their defense is crazy not pelich polak like it was a great tool yeah it could be a really they could be an unreal real retool i still i still think of the islanders as a team i don't want to play in the playoffs right and you probably won't have to oh i think Yeah, I think Detroit's going in that. We might have to change our mentality on that. No, but, like, okay, you have a seven-game series. They have Ilya Sorokin. They have, like, three really, really, really good defensemen.

They have Brock Nelson, who scores playoff goals. They have... Barzal. Well, yeah, obviously Matthew Barzal. Horvat. Who the hell's... Who's their captain again? Not Brock Nelson.

Anders Lee, is it? Anders Lee, thank you, who also scores playoff goals. Like, I still... yeah you know the thing about it is that the columbus blue jackets were also team you wouldn't want to play in the playoffs except they were like 23rd when the leafs played them or whatever it was no they were like 18th that's not fair no the and when the leafs played the blue jackets the least were the eight seed the blue jacks were the nine seed and they were tied in points and they were like the least weren't making the playoffs no because they were a shit

team as at the beginning of the show yeah let's give blue jacks credit but they were not making the playoffs that year i just i don't know there aren't many totally in a position to make the playoffs that season there aren't many teams in the league who aren't in a playoff spot where i look at them and i go oh they can make noise if they make it the islanders are still one of them maybe i'm wrong i think they needed i i'm two teams i'm really watching if they don't make the playoffs this year pittsburgh and and the islanders yeah i think that those are going to be fascinating stories because if if i'm islanders ownership that's two years in a row without the playoffs that's a complete fall off a cliff since you listen you could have held barry trotz and

kept him there paid him what he was worth and he would not be running the nashville predators and canceling you two trips right now okay he and by the way i have all the respect in the world for barry trotz look what he did with the islanders i know what he did with the caps look at the state of both of those franchises right after he left to this day to this day that milk is long spilt like both of those teams have never recovered i know i know that milk is long spilt they gotta you guys want to play a game yeah okay so the pittsburgh penguins last night as i mentioned they played the new york islanders they lost five four in overtime they scored four goals right right that's that's awesome yeah i want you in three guesses to name me any one of their goal

scorers that's not larzeller because he had one of the goals so three other players scored the three other goals you're gonna have three guesses get one of the guys for the penguins yeah crosby no oh that's one guest down shit obviously i shouldn't say obviously but the one guest down you got two more name it or name one's out by the way i'm hearing things that gensel is perhaps more hurt than we know not good um makes a trade trade deadline less interesting yes jeff carter incorrect you got one guest left adam do you want to weigh in i need we need like i can look at the roster no you can't No, that's the whole point.

Like daily face-off? I don't know who's playing for them. That's the whole point. He would have their stats on it. I just need to know who dressed for them. Exactly. Who's like a depth player that... It's Buzz Flippit.

It has to be, because Teddy Bluger's not there anymore. Brian Rust isn't there anymore. Pooey Harvey, I don't... Not Pooey Harvey. He doesn't have a point yet. Edmonton media would explode if Pooey Harvey... I want you to name one of their...

By the way, Pooey Harvey has not scored a single point since going to Pittsburgh. Not a single. who's mark specters just wetting himself with excitement they got someone from the jets off waivers is it jansen harkins is that your final guess i guess not uh i don't know man mark johnstone give me that's that's marcus petterson Adam Wilde, everybody. I love Marcus Patterson.

That's unbelievable. I love him. Marcus Patterson opened the scoring in the first period for the Pittsburgh. His third goal of the season. Wow. Jesse's got tears in his eyes. The other two goal scorers, Valtteri Pustinen. Oh, yeah.

Valtteri Pustinen. Definitely a guy. His second goal of the season. And then Drew O'Connor scored the fourth goal for them. Wow. From the Fs? he's on the penguins no i thank you thank you for that no i'm thinking yeah i think you're thinking of logan o'connor damn it's just there's that's an empty empty calories worth of names

you know they're they're trying to fill the they're trying to do the toronto thing fill the gaps the thing is is that when you have all that money tied up in those players and they're old at least the toronto core was in their 20s did you see what crosby was asked what was he asked he was asked about the potential of playing somewhere else and he said i want to be a penguin for life i've always said that and i know he's always said that of course he's always said yeah but see how many playoffs he wants to miss i'm just saying that thing that we said on this show months ago that people gave us a lot of shit for yeah it's all of a sudden become a noisy topic and i think that might be because it's based in a little bit of

they miss the playoffs next year there's fireworks nah just stay there and rot i'm sure that's what he wants to do especially because uh you know what competitive guys love doing he's having a crazy year dude he's unbelievable yep that's one thing you can't deny about this team is that crosby's been incredible fucking rules man yeah he rules he's amazing um uh by the way not that it's going to happen this year because it won't it's going to take another year of missing the playoffs for this to happen but if Crosby ever does get traded the Penguins rebuild will will get supercharged whatever they get back like this has the potential to be even though the players are are different ages uh like a Lindros Forsberg trait because because what you would have to give up to move

Crosby under contract at a reasonable term 31 other teams oh 31 other teams are calling Kyle do you better get a hall and kyle's yo kyle's a good trader he really is he's very very good at getting assets and trade except for that one allowed to make trades yes when he's allowed to i think that mark andre flurry trade would have been really good i brandon hagel is a leaf now it would have meant matthew nye's is in chicago now but i think we could have lived with that brandon hagel's pretty fucking good that's what i'm saying like it's pretty fucking if he would have been your zach hyman replacement and at the same cost too yeah i know it's painful it's painful it's all right matthew knows better i do like matthew now this is a weird story but

something that we have seen before the ontario hockey league uh is investigating the sudbury wolves regarding accusations that a bounty was placed on an opposing player the way this can work sometimes is that players uh are you know teams are upset with a player on another team coach puts money on the board who's going to target that player it used to happen in the 70s and 80s all the time especially in the ahl and and other other leagues like it um but you have to remember with the ohl is that the majority of the people playing are children so it's yeah so it's 16 and 20 so at least half are children the rare example of a 21 year old uh during the sudbury barry colts game on january 18th colts defenseman kashon atchison delivered a hard but

legal hit to Wolves forward Nathan Villeneuve there was no penalty on the play Atchison uh then fought one of Villeneuve's teammates Nolan Collins and then they both would have been booted because you can't fight in the OHL the two teams played each other again three games later but Barry did not dress Atchison according to sources word reached the Colts that of the possibility of a bounty being placed on Atchison so the organization made the decision not to play him when asked about the alleged bounty the OHL said the investigation uh incident excuse me of the investigation is ongoing uh would not comment further um yeah sudbury will not has not returned comment either the tombs teams play again in seven days in sudbury i think that would be the safest time

to dress atchison because or atchison if that's pronouncing his name right um that is that's crazy man that's crazy like i'm sure someone's reading that story going well if you just let them fight then it wouldn't be a problem like no dude it's easy to say that when you're not running the league that's going to get sued later well there's that when you you know like if you have no stake in this if you got no skin in this game you didn't invest your money work your whole life to be commissioner whatever else these positions of power take years and years and years to get into okay uh it's super easy for you to say it's easy for you to say that you know you don't own the colts so you don't worry about the colts asset loss you don't worry about the the destruction of

the sudbury wolves reputation potentially uh because of this incident you don't worry about any of that but the people the stakeholders that are in it do i uh you know sometimes these these guys in junior uh they get a little older and it's like a you know a circus tiger seeing grass for the first time they they can't believe that's what the world looks like and how it functions you know like uh you had justin davis on agent provocateur former junior player didn't he play in the zoo yeah i think he did yeah he played in the zoo multiple concussions multiple concussions and his stories are his wild the craziest story is he got a concussion in the states and the team didn't want him to go to the hospital because they would have had to pay the american medical

bill so they asked him even though he was bleeding on the brain they didn't know this because he hadn't been checked out by a medical professional teenager yeah they asked him to sit on the bus and drive across the border and then go to the hospital and had he not gone to the hospital he could have died yeah man and like it but a lot of the stories like the way he puts it um like he didn't even really think of as abnormal oh yeah until he got out of it yeah you know what I mean, that's the tiger comparison. Like, it's just your life. It's just a life you were thrust into and you wanted

and you want to make the show and you want to play pro puck. And then you get out of it all of a sudden and you talk to other people about your experiences and they all look at you sideways like, what the hell are you talking about? That's not normal. Yeah. Oh, and you didn't get paid for it.

Yeah. You didn't get paid to do it. you know what you made me look like a fool on that presentation on monday so i'm putting a bounty on jim's head and i'm gonna yeah we're all gonna beat the shit out of jim yeah well it's like you know where do you work in this scenario uh dunder mifflin i was just imagining jim getting his ass beat i mean he probably deserved it a couple times yeah listen if he was some of the stuff jim did a little underhanded you know that time he lifted up pam that was bad no she was she was engaged she was you crossed the line also she she needed to say she needed to boundaries

yep placing boundaries are jim and pam bad people there is a thread on the internet that believes that they're bad people yeah i ultimately think theories they acted poorly in certain situations but they they did love each other right so you got to give them that i think it all works out in the end. Everybody's with the right people, but how you got there is messy, like life. Toxic. Toxic.

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of the week with only assists man what is that a thing that happened yeah that is a thing that happened last how many uh three stars of the week yo that's crazy i don't think i've ever seen one game though he got he got six in one game yeah uh i just want to find out what how many he had because i already have my opinion on this and that's not going to change but i think it's important to put in contact i don't know how many were secondary you know bum i don't think mcdavid has a lot of secondary assist i don't know i think he creates most of what happens is mcdavid Secondary assist merchant? Cardio merchant.

Oh, here we go. Here we go. Here we go. All right, I got it up. So three stars of the week from February 12th to 18th. Austin Matthews, first star. Six goals, two assists. Lull.

Three games played. That's because goals matter more. Connor McDavid, second star. Zero goals, ten assists, three games. That's really funny. You know what's crazy about Connor? Ten points in three games, you should be a top three star of the week. but beyond that did you see the assists now i love you know you know how i feel austin should

be number one here he scored the most goals goals matter more end of story but did you see the assists that connor mcdavid put together especially in that game he didn't have six points in one of his sister goals let's be honest outrageous his player the players on his line don't need to move they just know just go stand here i'll get you the puck i would that's that'd be a great stat to track how many assists where uh the person you set up to score didn't move they were just stationary they were just feet feet traveled by goal scorer per 60 expected by whom well like i don't remember who set him up but remember when bertuzzi missed like a wide open net and some i think it was matthews was like just stand in front

just like that he just yeah stood there and freaking uh finally went in i can't wait till he scores with a shot so this is the thing i uh i think conor mcdavid absolutely deserved it and matthew's not had back-to-back hat tricks conor mcdavid should have been first star of the week goal or not goal goals or no goals conor mcdavid is conor mcdavid deserves it happy to give it to flowers given matthews is such a lunatic i love it um matthew kachuk was the third star there uh of the week last week and i got fun interesting stat about matthew kachuk that nobody's kind of noticed here uh since december 22nd 2023 matthew kachuk leads the world in points you're kidding yeah matty bring that off so i can wow my little stash does that count does that count playoffs as

well 2023 so december of oh i'm this season so yeah i was looking i was just on uh quant hockey where i like to just isolate my days and when you go back to december 22nd matthew kachuk has played 24 games since then connor mcdavid has played 22 nathan mckinnon's played 24 pasta's played 26 matthew kachuk has 43 points wow span he leads the entire nhl you know what since christmas matthew kachuk is the leading point getter in the nhl if the question for the flames was keep kachuk or trade the rest of the roster or trade kachuk every they should have traded everybody well they're about to this guy they are matthew kachuk continually proves why the flames were wrong about him his his teammates i'm talking specifically about the jake muzzin

incident uh this guy is so unbelievably good at everything one notable thing i think from the the isolation of these dates is the time on ice that matthew kachuk plays in comparison to the guys that he's at the top of the points race with pretty low matthew kachuk plays 18 minutes and 26 seconds uh the time on ice in that span connor mcdavid 21 minutes mckinnon 23 minutes pasta 20 minutes kucherov 22 minutes austin 20 minutes and then his teammate who's seventh in points in that amount of time is 18 minutes harder carter verhage so suck it in talk math matthew kachuk here is doing more with less time it's very impressive damn hot damn um they're gonna be so hard to beat dude yeah they're gonna be a really i think lord is in for a good little

run once again this playoffs uh there is a report i just want to throw in there sorry once we're done with this topic i i do want to bring something up very quickly to those some news the show is not live so you do not have to break i'm sorry pierre lebrun uh new news was on insider trading okay and he said and this has to do with the penguins that the penguins are gearing up for a fire sale that they're listening to everything on everybody except for crosby no they're gonna fire sale the team get worse but next year they'll be better and crosby won't want to trade yeah you know what you uh don't want to trade is your most valuable uh trade ship well i can understand them wanting to not trade him i could just i just think that's not a smart

evaluation of where you are right is malcolm and letang available boy it's getting noisy sure is huh um jesse what's the next question sorry to jump in with that i just figured that would add to the conversation black wizard 28449 writes if the playoff names by the way the names rule if the playoffs started tomorrow bruins or panthers is ryan reese in the starting lineup uh yes bruins and unpopular opinion game one yes yes game that's what i was gonna say both of you said yes absolutely and then they're gonna find out why they're gonna find out is this kyle clifford 2.0 no but like teams do that at the beginning of playoff series they're like all right go out

there hit as many human beings as possible all right thank you for your service and go to the yeah we need suspended five minutes into the game so we play the rest of it shorthanded yes kyle clifford it's a miracle they won that game and they won a five nothing yeah they also you know they'll need to make room for guys like noah gregor hell yeah specifically for steve hell yeah the turn for you with noah gregor has been one of the funniest things to watch i don't think you've ever hated a leaf more i know i don't hate him i don't hate him it's hated hated in the way you don't like his game and you don't want him to line up not literally you hate the man well like he was he was you know what that's a good distinction by the way because

people do think that they're like why do you hate this person i'm sure i don't seems like a great No, he was skating real fast. He was hard-nosed. He was scoring like every now and then. And now that he hasn't scored for like 30 games and also has not been particularly good, I'm like, all right, you can go. And like also he's been surpassed.

Like we've seen enough of him and we've seen enough of Robertson that I'm like, all right, put Robertson in there. And we've seen enough of McMahon that I'm like, all right, put McMahon in there. And all of a sudden you're not in there. Even Reeves. We've seen enough.

Oh, Holmberg recently? Like, he's been surpassed by a lot of guys. Sheldon Keefe likes running out Noah Greger. Not last game, he didn't. Not yet. Yeah. But as of, like, before that, you know, consistently for the last month, you know, Noah Greger's had a place in the lineup when he probably, probably guys who have edged him out.

Which one did you pick, Adam? Bruins or Panthers? I say he's going to be in. They could play the Flint Thunderbirds in the playoffs, and Ryan Reeves will be in game one. but i think by game three or game four we'll see if ryan has established himself because i think there are games with the least where he's effective and there are games with the least we're like he can't play and so what ryan reeves will have to do in game one and potentially game two if they get him that far is establish that he belongs in that series and he'll have to do that every the

thing that pisses me off about the leafs though is they always do that in game one they shorthand their own lineup they don't dress their best guys because kyle clifford's got to get in and and to me no i i don't understand why you don't just here's the best skill lineup and we have some toughness everybody's going to contribute let's try that oh that didn't work we need a little more toughness now we'll put ryan reeves yeah but the leafs needed that you you got to remember that clifford was two years ago oh i know they needed the grit and then last year they had enough grit throughout the actual lineup like dudes who play hockey well that they were like okay we don't need that right agreed they went out in the summer and got the biggest one of those yeah i don't know

i i just feel like the leaf should try winning game one that'd be good they never do that um i don't know if that's gonna work i'm just listen i'm gaining optimism for the team uh oh sure over this four game point streak i like the way they're playing the top of the atlantic division is so fucking good they are good sucks man the east is really deep this year yeah there's a lot of good teams in the eastern conference which one would you rather play the bruins or the panthers uh bruins i'm not overly stoked about that matchup though yeah adam oh neither like the panthers are kind of one-lined and the bruins are not quite as deep as they were but like the leafs also don't have the greatest depth either they both have really

good goaltending they both have pretty good decors yeah yeah like i think i think one thing i'll give the leafs credit for this year is they've gone after the boogeyman so like i talked about it yesterday with Max Domi going right at uh uh Radko Gutis not at random when he pulled some chicken shit Radko Gutis stuff which we love Radko Gutis for sure what I'd like to see the Leafs do is go right at the Florida Panthers oh you're gonna play that way we can play that way too uh where they are a vastly different the Leafs are a vastly different team and I don't know how much of the Panthers Bruins series everybody watched last year it was can't miss so good and you know who was an absolute animal

against the Panthers? Tyler Bertuzzi. He had a good series. I want to see Tyler Bertuzzi do that against the Panthers. And win. I pray to the Lord above that Bertuzzi and Tomei have

other gears. They were both so good in the playoffs. They had 23 points combined. Oh yeah. That's crazy. I just want to correct you when you say one line of the panthers you mean they have an incredibly deep top six well one line is doing the majority of the scoring let me read you the top six okay first line is verhagey barkov reinhardt

second line is cousins bennett kachuk that's death for any six hockey players that go up well their power play lineup too they can the cousins bennett kachuk you might as well call that the cte line like that is uh because that i know ctb but uh but that is trying to hand out as many brain injuries as they can yeah i don't know like i think that's the one of the if not the best top six at hockey and don't right now don't sleep on lindell as well dude yeah third line's nothing to laugh at either no no i'm not saying the rest of the roster shit call them one lined yeah because one line does the majority of the damn scoring it's true i don't know but um like i even look at this roster and even even someone who you probably don't think about like nico micola

i'm like that fucking guys on the panthers yeah i just don't brandon want anything to do with that series i i don't know how i haven't tracked brandon montour stats but he was so good last year he was stupid um and i just would like him not to be not the same amount of production uh this year but uh like a guy like oel oh shit not the same amount like okay so he had 73 points last year he has 70 17 this year in how many games while he played 80 last year he's played 40 this year he's played 40 games yeah i thought he missed way more time me too yeah yeah i didn't know he made it into all 40 but yeah just the points aren't there anymore it at least seems like that season's going to be an albatross on how he plays

but he's still a good defenseman yeah there's nothing to take away from i'm not i'm not stoked for that series i would if it happened i was gonna say oel who's become a depth defenseman for them is still still has it in him at sure you know like i believe like that game is is going to be there for forever you know as long as he's he's in the league so there's somebody who's just their depth defenseman but he's also very talented and has played upper in the lineup here's here's what i what bugs me about both of those teams is they both have good solid goaltending but one and two right like i don't okay so you get into lenis olmark's head and he and you drop five on him and they pull him well then you got to play jeremy swayman fuck that there's that's why i'm like i

and then it's like wow you get in a bro brofsky's head and then you got to play like just there might be an argument come playoff time that swayman's the starter probably well that was their that was like their main reason they lost to the panthers last year the refusal to go to yeah and that's it i think it ultimately costs in the series you know if you go to swayman earlier you probably end up uh in the second round and then you have a good shot do you have a good shot at the cup i just think the leafs um for the changes they've made this year which again i've been completely behind if they had if their depth players were scoring at their career averages we have had a completely different series president's trophy yeah that's a great like

seriously yeah and so one thing that the Leafs have have done really the only dragon they've really slayed is the Tampa Bay Lightning right that was that's a team that beat them they came back the next year they beat them every time you know when they played Boston we all know they lost and then lost again both times in game seven I want to see the Leafs they've done it before we've seen them do it let's see them take on the Florida Panthers and then let's see them take on the boston bruins slay the dragon because the confidence if you beat those two teams that that team would have yeah we thought that last year with the lightning though well nobody was ready for the panthers nobody was ready for the panthers no they were a complete torpedo nobody

saw this isn't to like discredit the leafs i think they can hang with the panthers sure i think the leafs will be in a series i yeah even if it's not a long series i think the games will be decently close um they played them well this year the times they've gone up against them yeah well ah man trying to remember all the games but i know well and and like i feel like the bruins games have been pretty close ah fuck it's just every year it's dude like the thing about slaying the dragon is you lose often enough you realize there's a lot of dragons yeah but yeah they're not as endangered that's the league every year there's never gonna be a year off like every time you get to the stanley cup playoffs there's a reason people uh it's revered as the toughest

playoffs and the toughest championship to win because every team you go up against is going to be a tough battle and then if you expect like hey this year they'll get an easy matchup it's never going to happen especially in this conference with this division that's so good it's never going to happen every year is going to be a difficult team to beat it's the royal rumble and everyone's having a go but you know if they're on one end of the if one of them is on one end of the ring and the other is on the other end you know the vegas golden knights are looking at the edmonton oilers and going hey motherfucker i'm coming for you i'm going at it again it's the the best teams take on the best teams that's how it works and like eventually tampa will fall off and they'll

be like oh yeah detroit's been good for four years now and they're fucking dominating you know like there's gonna be a new team that steps up so if the leafs want to get it done they just got to get it done one of the years these years and beat these good teams it's a hard league man it's a very hard league next one uh we can do one more yeah let's do one more these are fun let me let me pull this up so next question this is from dejected soup on our discord see what i'm saying sdp on dot ca join us on discord just subscribe to sdp vip do everything um my wife is a little new to hockey and she overheard me listening to the latest podcast where you guys were discussing binnington's fine she's wondering if the term known dick appears in an official nhl glossary

of terms describing a repeat offender uh it doesn't but it really ought to there are some players who have had no-nos like multiple no-nos and they would fall under repeat offender but that doesn't necessarily mean they're a known dick and this guy is he's just i'm not calling him a dick i'm just saying his on ice conduct is full of dicketry and he often goes at other players in a dickish way the florida panthers for example like matthew kachuk that's not a dick it's a bit of a nutcase to be honest but he's not a dick he's just kind of um what's the word violent extremely aggressive and violent whereas uh bennington just uh will go at you in ways that's me you know what i mean yeah me like he didn't he doesn't even have the decency to just straight up

punch you in the face it's more like a man yeah you know what i mean yeah and then he'll punch you in the face yep he's the guy that that uh punches you when the teacher's not looking and then says i didn't do it give me some dignity when you punch me in the face yeah treat me like an equal listen i don't know uh since you're new here i don't know if you've noticed hockey's so stupid yeah a lot of it's a lot of fun but it's really stupid yeah but a lot of fun no it's good it's good hey uh should we wrap it up there i want to end on one note okay this one is from shadow panther they need your thoughts what are your thoughts on former marley Justin Brazile.

Remember him? Thank you for bringing this up. Thank you for bringing this up. Steve knows where this is going. Yeah, thank you for bringing this up. Justin Brazile, former Marley. Kyle Dubas once said in 2018, I'm going to hate this.

If this guy doesn't play a game for the Toronto Maple Leafs, then we've failed. Justin Brazile scored his first goal in the NHL. For who? With the Boston Bruins. Ah! this dude is six foot five oh yeah like 225 pounds head the size of a fire hydrant and the he scored 60 goals his final year in junior he was a late bloomer and everyone looked

at this guy and said okay well like he's obviously like they looked at his game they looked at his skating and they went well okay he's not that great that's why we didn't draft him that's why he hasn't been offered a contract but that 60 goal season everyone went well he's huge and scored 60 goals sure so if we can mold that into something what a killer yeah and teams i think were offering them nhl deals well doesn't doesn't don't the hockey gods float us one from the heavens and justin brazeau takes an ahl contract with the toronto marlies unbelievable and they start them with the newfoundland growlers and the echl as they should and he does well there as he should

and then his development with the marlies just sort of fizzles and goes into nothing and you're like where is this guy whatever happened to him well that monster fucking thing that all that it it seems to people don't like that we bring it up so much but it really did fuck everything up It fucked everything up. COVID. It screwed up the development of so many people. The Growlers weren't even playing hockey games. And his development got kind of derailed.

So where's his soft landing spot? Where does he end up? The Maine Mariners. The Son of a Gun Maine Mariners. And then the Son of a Gun Providence Bruins. and he does so well there that he earns an NHL contract with the Son of a Gun Boston Bruins and he scores in his first Son of a Gun game.

Who would have thought that if he just kept taking cracks at this eight-foot monster who can score 60 goals that eventually he might be a decent NHLer? Who would have thought that the project would take some time? How did they lose him? By being idiots. I assume they just let him go. If you want a little background on Brazil, if you do just a Google on him and Scott Wheeler in 2019, he wrote a fantastic article with his agent who has a bunch of quotes in there.

I think the agent's name is John Walters. And that's where that Dubas quote comes from, where Dubas is so adamant about this kid has it. It's a great little piece in The Athletic if you want to go read it there. Dubas was really good at finding guys like that. Yeah, it really was. Well, and like Bobby McMahon, right? So, like, you know, we can't pout too much, but this kid is, well, he's not a kid, is he? He's 26, just turned 26.

He's six foot five. I was wrong. He's six, five, two, 45. Wouldn't that be great going up against Florida on the fourth line? This is legitimately one of the biggest active hockey players in the world. Like, he's probably a top 10 heaviest guy in the league. we gotta wrap i don't give a shit i'm going i'm trauma dumping okay his final year with the marley's 2021 yeah where he probably should have still been with the growlers but they were

fucking playing games he had four goals and one assist for five points in 21 games goes to providence the next year and is immediately fine dude he had six penalty minutes he's the size of the abominable snowman he had six penalty minutes 15 goals 16 assists for 31 points in 51 games goes to the echl or he was in the echl earlier that season fucked it up because he didn't belong down there he's gotten better and better since and here he is in the nhl and i'm so pissed i'm really happy for him it's a lovely story i'm happy for him because it's a lovely story but but of course of course of course of course the steve dangle podcast follow the guys on twitter at steve underscore dangle at adam w y

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