The Steve Dangle Podcast - I Was Right About Ingram | May 6, 2022

Episode Date: May 6, 2022

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, the Leafs lose a sloppy game 2 to Tampa, You Can Bet That with Sports Interaction, Steve was right about Connor Ingram, Kings vs Oilers is tied 1-1, Stars vs Flames is tied 1-1, Penguins vs Rangers is tied 1-1, Wild vs Blues is tied 1-1, we hit 10K followers!, terrible Umpiring, who gets the cup first?, and Jesse's new intro. Originally aired: May 6, 2022 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/SgUtnEBXprA We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp Individuals must be 19 years of age or older to open a Sports Interaction account. Terms and Conditions apply. Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://help.sportsinteraction.com/hc.... Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Sports Interaction is subject to successful AGCO registration and execution of an Operating Agreement with iGaming Ontario. The Eligible iGames conducted and managed by iGO are only available to those physically present in the Province of Ontario. Visit this episode's sponsors: Get 20% off + free shipping with the code DANGLE at manscaped.com. That’s 20% off + free shipping with the code DANGLE at manscaped.com. It’s time to get wet and clean with your new MANSCAPED™ Shower Routine." https://manscaped.com/ CODE: DANGLE https://stathead.com/ CODE: SDP https://stance.com/ CODE: ATHLETIC https://rhoback.com/ CODE: DANGLE http://seatgeek.com/ CODE: SDP https://sportsinteraction.com/sdp Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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If the Leafs came away With a split Everybody would be saying Well tonight's the night They're gonna lose then You know what I'm sorry If they came away

With a sweep Of their home It's hard not to get greedy Cause after they won game one I'm like Maybe Playoffs Greed is good

I thought it'd be 2-0 And then Tampa would take The next two And I thought it'd end up 2-2 somehow Oh You know Interesting

That's how I thought It'd play out But I I think I'd be I expected to be 2-2 After 4 um after tampa but i suppose we'll see this is a big task for sheldon keith and it's

quickly becoming a quick task or a big task for john tavaris so let's talk about we'll get to john tavaris in a second here but i gotta say um uh obviously a lot of people a lot of a lot of focus on wayne simmons after game two and wayne simmons got up in front of the media and he said listen i'm a man i can admit that i make i make mistakes and he said i made two big ones yeah like it's uh for for me it was done and dusted after the game like you took two dumb penalties you i'm it's i don't i think it's a bit egregious to say he cost them the game but they were two bad penalties i am i don't think it's done and dusted at all i don't think and i don't think it's egregious i think you shouldn't touch the ice and you did cost them

two goals directly by three by your actions by dumb actions you cost them two goals you should not play game three no no way and uh like i saw oh god who had the article it was cj actually talking about how the least prepared for playoff hockey and for the refs uh to put their whistles away like they do every playoff but then they didn't no no no no no no no i'm not allowing myself to get distracted and i'm not allowing myself to go yeah oh it figures because for a split second i was like yeah it figures no william nylander tripped a guy with his foot ilia labushkin hooked braden point in his hands wayne simmons took two penalties after the whistle guys these aren't smart penalties these aren't smart things to do and these aren't things that

well maybe the after the whistle stuff is something you typically see in playoff hockey but the penalties called on the leafs are things that should absolutely be called the car foot one yeah that was that was stupid that was like it was like come on man come on what what i'm enjoying what i'm enjoying about uh you know getting to talk about the penalties afterward is if you watch my streams you can see me in real time going ah that's gonna be a call and it's a call and i don't even hear the commentators go oh the refs got his arm up or whatever as soon as i saw kerfoot put his hand around brandon hagel i'm like they're calling that every time yeah it's an easy one I'm starting to get mad when I see the Leafs chirping at the ref.

Now, to be fair, people were tweeting at me because I said, is that six penalties or four penalties in a row or five penalties in a row? It was four, and then I think Tampa took one, and then the Leafs took another. And people were like, you bitch all season about them not making calls, and they finally make calls. I'm like, no, this is an indictment on the Leafs. These are all stupid, stupid, stupid, stupid. And what I love about it, though, gentlemen,

my favorite part is it's completely correctable. It's on the Leafs to correct it. and they can do that. And this is where, if I look at the penalties, I think the Leafs took seven. It was seven power plays. Yeah, and Tampa took four. If you're the Leafs and you took four of those penalties

rather than seven, the score is probably 3-3 at the end of the game. Seven is a ridiculous number. That's a crazy amount. It's so for a professional hockey game. You can't take seven penalties. Against the two-time Cup winner. That's so stupid.

well and and like you talk about completely crushing god just the way everything happened in game two sucked the soul out of everybody like just uh all the confidence the fucking last five minutes where we're like oh the least might do it last five minutes the first period at least we're the better team the entire yes they were no but i mean like after everything got sucked out of the building i know yeah you think about the psychology of if tampa doesn't score there with a fucking second left. If they don't score there with a second left, then they head to the dressing room and they're like,

we don't have a goal in four periods. What's going on? Right? And then they start to get in their heads a little bit. And with one second left, they get it. With one second left because of a dumb Brody. Again, a dumb Brody. Bro, that was a bad play.

Oh, I know. It was a bad play by Brody. Yeah. He panicked and it cost them. Yeah. And there's three seconds left and you make a mistake and it leads to a goal when time would have expired. That's terrible.

I think the way they finished the game, though, is the part that makes me feel the happiest. Because, first off, TJ was at the game. He said, as a fan, you were super jacked in the first period until the right end at the end. TJ Brody was. No, I'm sorry.

I just wanted to believe they could do it. Brody was on the ice. And then at back half of the third period where they came on strong, and Matthews, like, listen, they're down 5-1, 5-2, and Matthews is throwing the body. It kicks out to Marner.

Like, that tells you something. And I want to compare and contrast the way Tampa handled their 5-0 shit kick. in game one and the reality is um it took cory perry who's who was literally you know winning gold championships when the roman empire ruled and he's he's out there years ago causing shit while the well the stars for tampa frankly were just like disappeared and this is why i'm i'm thrilled about where the leafs are at because when it was even when it was 5-1-5-2 they were still throwing it they were still skating they were still if they if they were not on the penalty

kill they were playing hard and the 5-3 meant a lot more to me than anything i don't think you should be scared of tampa at this point you've seen two games of them you belong here yes you deserve each other yes you know you know what i mean like okay you can have respect for tampa don't be afraid yeah we can talk about the one through eight and yeah i would prefer it be that way but at the end of the day it's a stanley cup playoffs and the leafs and lightning deserve each other um they're pretty evenly matched things that scare me are vasilevsky's glove save on lilligran nah why does that scare you that was you know what because it's vasilevsky he could do that all game so but he has it so can campbell's campbell's been vasilevsky has let in

eight goals in two games i think i think you should listen back to what you just said and you're comparing jack ham with andre vasilevsky yep because they're not the same goal they're not but i don't think one glove save does not a series make and we've seen vasilevsky not come one glove save is indicative of him turning it on and becoming Andre Vasilevsky, who is undefeated after a loss. Yes, but the Leafs got three goals on him. The Leafs got

three goals on him after a loss, which is supposed to be impossible. Supposed to be impossible. If the Leafs just play borderline brain-on hockey, they win that game. Yeah. The penalties

scare me. Vasilevsky scares me. You brought up Corey Perry. The Corey Perry breakaway is a bad line change. He skated through the middle of the ice because everybody went off to the bench. That's ridiculous. That's dumb hockey and they played it all game long. And they still only lost by two goals.

And people were like, when I tweeted out, I'm like, the Leafs have played hard. Someone's like, score effects, my dude. I'm like, okay, tell me you're not watching the game without telling me you're not watching the game. Honestly, I know what score effects are. Thanks. I appreciate it. But I'm telling you, the Leafs outplayed them in the third period when they did not have to. And I did

not see the same from the tampa stars there's been an overcorrection there's been an overcorrection it used to be a lack of numbers made us watch hockey lazily and now numbers make us uh talk about hockey in a lazy way well score effects well i would say that the people who know their numbers and i'm not one of them don't for the most part like if you look at like a dom decision i don't think anything dom decision does is like boring i think he's he's quite interesting but i think as the as people who are like we do sort of pick and choose sometimes and i know what you're saying of course yeah exactly yes i'm not i'm not talking about the people who actually track this shit yeah and can calculate it well because they'll often be like so here's what the numbers

say but right andrew shana dom yeah they all suck and don't read their shit i'm kidding especially andrew yeah if dom ever listens to this uh on your game score added value uh metric rate assists a little lower that's i agree with that i think they're rated half of goals and we need to adjust that i agree wow yeah um low hey hey fix your computer so computer boy computer so it looks like um right now work for the panthers how dare you as of right now this might be different by tonight and i don't like this i was sorry i like the first one spezza in for simmons we like oh is that what's it's looking like spezza's in for simmons and it looks like hall might be in for lilligran which i think is an enormous mistake okay why because he got robbed i that's a mistake

that's a mistake that is why that that's the reason just i think keith trusts hall more defensively i think he's wrong i think he trusts him because of the last couple of years fair but he hasn't been that since last spring he trusts him more defensively and that's why he's starting on the road well and adam jesus you're burying the lead a little bit uh nylander with uh tavaris and kasha i hadn't seen the full lineup oh well there it is sorry i i'm surprised i can see it it's because oh i got here jonas just posted it yeah letters to maximum size so i can see yeah hey so so then let's let's bring that up because i think it's important that we um i don't know nolander tavarez and case are all playing together i like the leafs lineup where they had

two kneelanders last game uh me too they should have won should have won in three so let's let's talk about this john tavaris you know there's been a lot of discourse back and forth you know off the ice i don't think the team doubts don john tavaris no but you know we had some people saying mid-season guys fucking wash guys puts well and and we were saying and i was saying specifically uh no he's put a point of game he's strong defensively he wins face-offs yeah is he worth 11 million? No, but even by Dom's model, it's like 9.5. So it's still pretty valuable

to Centerman. I don't know where this is coming from. Now, he has had two games where offensively he hasn't been a factor. Is John Tavares becoming the whipping boy fair at this point through the first two games? Absolutely. Why?

I thought he did some good things in game one. I noticed him and I noticed him making a positive impact. Game two, every time I saw him, I was like, oh yeah. like i was i i was reminded he was there that that can't be um taking seven penalties makes it really hard for matthews to get into the game and for tavaris to get into the game especially from your fourth fucking liners right like because because yes because it they don't kill penalties but it makes it difficult for them to get into the game matthews found a way to get

into the game found a way to get into the game he created offense by throwing around his giant body and john tavaris just wasn't able to do that uh effectively some of that maybe lands on keith like some of that you know i i think deployment uh well last change and all that take that many penalties you gotta uh change up the lines a little bit because you're gonna have certain guys who are exhausted right yeah if like mars yeah well like marner marner's a pony though you should be able to put him out as much as possible he's young it's like when it's a kid who's like ah you break a bone he'll be healed in a week you know you never look at Marner and you're like oh he's tired like that's one one piece of criticism you never really hear with him

but like uh Mikheyev is supposed to be like constant speed burst he was out there killing every penalty yeah you know and and who else was on Tavares is like Kerfoot there's another penalty killer the built-in excuse for John Tavares in the first two games is that so much of it was spent on special teams he hasn't had a chance to really get into the game but it got worse in game two and then i'll accept that like but the way the way you describe matthew's finding a way to get himself into the game like i'd rather see that out of john taveras than like the built-in excuse you know it's find a way season right it's find a way season like we can come up with an excuse for everything i don't care results matter now yeah it's like over over 82 games i think it's

like i'll get random some time but there just isn't the time yeah right but he is still doing his thing around the net on the play on the power play i did see that he is still winning face-offs well they were but they weren't getting not against tampa they got pretty good centerman yeah i think adam i think it's okay to say that john taveras hasn't really been there in the first two games right like i think it's okay to admit that fully agree i'm just saying and i think you're right i think you're absolutely right that's why i was saying like it is result season but I do want to say he is doing things around the net I did see some rebounds and that sort of thing that he was

in on because he's the in front of the net guy on that first power play and he's not the focus of that power play he is winning face offs but my frustration is obviously there's nothing happening 5 on 5 nothing can't do much off the rush and when you see I know he's not the fastest skater

but when you see plays just not even develop at all like John Tavares' strength is supposed to be how he thinks yeah and and it just seems mentally like there's it's a it's frustrating him i it's we cj uh beat this drum a couple times sort of subtly though he maybe tapped the drum lightly um that at some point john tavaris is going to become a winger i don't think it's going to happen mid playoffs but i i think a cheeky solution could be and listen it's going to take some growing pains

and it's not going to be very fun at first but I think you can keep him and Nylander on the same line. But put comp in the middle? Nope. You go and switch them. Oh really? No. You have done it. I don't think it's comp second line but I wonder if it's something

they try. I'm done with Nylander. You're his biggest fan. That should show you where I'm at with it. This is not something I want to try right now. This is absolutely not something I want to try right now. preseason game one versus the rookies i right season i would love to see nylander try it october and by latest american thanksgiving you you close the book on it nylander at center should be

reserved for game 82 where's the first line center and successful because everybody wasn't trying he was successful he was for nylander he was the best player season game he was the best player on the ice that game. Oh, yeah. It was unbelievable. Yeah, you guys were there. Oh, it was great. Wasn't it a bust in the

whole 60 minutes? It was William Nylander's ice. Everybody else didn't matter, honestly. I picked up a nasty habit from watching Nasher videos, and both

Nylander goals got me to go, ew! Like, just with that final move, I just couldn't help it. I went, ew! It was disgusting. Question.

Is it possible the Lilligren for Hall situation is Lilligren's injured? Could be. Because otherwise, that doesn't make sense to me.

like maybe he's not maybe he's day-to-day maybe you rest him because he's either like oh well if we're we're expecting that we want him back for game four if he takes a rest he'll be in much better shape well i have an answer uh penalty kill got fucking filled in game two and halls a penalty killer he's also a play killer yeah well you know he was after he was healthy scratched a bunch of times early in the season he was on his best behavior for a while but then at the end of the season he wasn't again yeah but we start with game three you know what i mean can he give with i think everything is so micro in the playoffs everything is game by game can hall give you a good game yes he can and you start absolutely he can you start there and he has given good games

in the playoffs before those games were him and muslin were the best defensemen on the ice you're i you're gonna hate this i'm sorry what i'm sorry but you're gonna hate this sheldon keith want to calder cup with him it means nothing do you hate this i just want to look at the camera i want to look at the camera do you hate this as much as i do i hate it he not that i love the calder cup i think it's the sort of thing where keith trusts him in certain situations within the playoffs so he's um paired with giordano yeah who is who is captain responsible giordano's been great so maybe it's like okay we can if we put giordano and hall together on the bottom pairing Gives Giordano a bit of a rest

But he's going to carry some of the Maybe he'll calm down Some of the yips that Justin Hall might have about Whatever happened this year He has to move bodies, for God's sake He has to move bodies That's mission number one, two, and three

For Justin Hall The other thing the Leafs had in the last game that I thought was interesting Was a fourth line that just was not clicking They have not been able to figure this out So here's what the lineup is, just by the way Bunting, Matthews, Marner great kneelander tavaris joey anderson's penciled in but it's andre kasha who's just not skating this morning oh um so he's not anderson's just taking his spot in the line runs sure

mckay of conf kerfoot on the on the third line which is a good line it's it's uh they're going full metapod on that one yeah and they need that because they're not going to have the change yeah and then who's on the third line who's the guy that i've been sorry fourth line that i've been missing uh i already read it oh yeah we had it who is it uh engvall blackwell spetsa and i wonder if engvall and his super strong play helps to jog what that fourth line because that's a different fourth line there's no clifford there's no simmons spetsa fought once against columbus but i don't think we're looking at i don't think we're like oh we're not yeah no no that's interesting you know it's kind of interesting like that is a skill line maybe maybe and chris

chris's article in the star maybe had something to do with this too maybe the leafs are adjusting to the fact that the the whistles are out yes dumb penalties but this is less of a boston series and more of a toronto tampa series where it's skill yeah or your strengths or i mean the leafs have done a decent job sticking up for themselves like what if that's just you know too bad you have to go stick up for yourself there's no more babysitters uh mckay has been in a grumpy mood camp's been in a grumpy mood um blackwell is for some reason not afraid despite his height engvall needs to be i mean he's gonna kind of be utility here i think he's responsible for getting that fourth line going but also if things go sideways he's going up on that shutdown line

yeah that's gonna happen but um also if there's toil he's gonna have to be involved in it he's gonna have to be involved in it man i uh i i have been impressed with everybody's ability to toil you know everybody's ability to to push to push back um like i have to say uh pat maroon right off the bat pushing the leafs defenseman into campbell like i know it cost them and it gave them a penalty or whatever but like i get what he's doing me too uh and and people are like oh what a fucking idiot like that's what he wants you to do he wants you to be mad at him rather than focus on playing the game but the all leaf fans resoundingly were like what a moron why did he do that what a moron and the ref said with his decision what a moron go to the box moron

and then the leafs proceeded to do it they did the exact same thing use your head use and they won game two they will yeah the leafs haven't been dumb penalty team all year no that's true they've you know they haven't had they've had isolated incidents they haven't had an entire game dedicated to them it wasn't came to brad marchand literally slashing a goalie right right which uh i mean who's shot i'm not i'm shocked the nhl did anything about it five grand but like yeah no that'll teach him that'll teach him the guy that you suspended like eight times giving him a fine that'll teach him yeah good job with the cpa see how it works in the playoffs i don't know if you guys know this or not so how it works in the playoffs is one game actually means two

and five thousand dollars actually means one game well so this is my thing with the kerfoot uh not kerfoot uh clifford suspension is that like a five game suspension in the regular season yeah i guess it'd be i think it's three kind of because if you count the full game misconduct then it's like six games yeah i absolutely count it i i count a five minute major five minutes into the first period of game one plus a game absolutely by the nhl's calculations that's a six game suspension yeah i don't know whatever spurgeon's fine i still can't get over that every time i've had to re-watch that several it's pretty wild just to make sure you can see what you saw no because like we had to re relive it here and then i think it was the next day i had to do it and dang it so

i have to watch it all over again and i'm like i still what are we doing here i don't understand what we're doing here that it was it's allowed someone sent me a meme it was a fine means legal for a price i like that and yeah so speeding yeah hey that's enough all right take off hey um uh last question on the leafs thing unless you guys have something else you want to hit last question who do you pick tonight for no reason at all for no reason at all just give me a pick who you picking to win i'm kind of thinking tampa gets game three and the leafs get game four but we'll see okay jesse oh that's a tough one um i will i'm gonna agree with steve tell me why i think it's tampa game i think them all the momentum's in their in their boat right now

you know i think they're gonna capitalize on what they did in game two and they're gonna Because we can't bank on Tampa Playing awful the whole series Like that's what I'm sitting here Just like looking at all these games and like okay We can't every single time we go with the Leafs Are the better team the first two games Eventually we are going to get to a game where Tampa

Is the better team and I'm going to And the Leafs will win that That's game four I think game three going back home We finally see Tampa Become the better team and they squeak out a win Okay I'm going to disagree with you both not for the sake of of disagreement because if i did agree i would uh yeah no i'm not gonna

do that just for the hell of it i'm actually telling you this because here's what i believe i think that last five minutes in that last game means a lot more than people are giving it credit for and i i was real that was character that was what we were missing when people get mad at the leafs in previous playoff years they would have fucking put out their lawn chairs that would have been it this team did not quit i fucking love it i think they're gonna bring that into game three and i think they're gonna win two options from the funny standpoint okay hit me the leafs head back to toronto with a 3-1 lead actually win right or tampa goes back to toronto with a 3-1 lead and the leafs overcome it erasing last year that's the funniest those are the two funniest or well

sorry the other option is the least blow a three we don't all want to have the same heart rate you did on the uh on the stream okay man my trainer uh was watching that whole stream and what did they say uh well we had a session the next day and he's like so no cardio today then i like that so they told steve he was a madman they told him he was crazy but they they who did you don't need to for what they told him he was crazy but he stopped he made a pick and that that goalie Stopped 49 of 51 shots Last night and I just thought Steve you deserved a shout out for saying Conor Ingram

Needs to be the guy You picked the mystery box Not the vomit box and the mystery box Almost got you a win against the best team in the league Well second best Jesse We are ignoring the fact that I was right about how

It was going to play out and that's all I was saying The ass would win anyway No I said You need to start Dave Riddich in game one and you need to see what you got with Rittich and then you need to go, if he's ass, is what I said last episode, if he's ass, then you need to go to Conor Ingram and that's what they

did. And John Hines agreed with me. Yeah, John Hines was wrong. He was wrong. As somebody with professional management experience in the NHL, I looked at the situation and I said, this is how it's got to play out. This is how you got to do it. You got to give the, you can't give the rookie the start over

the vet. These are people, Steven. Yeah, but like you can as even if conor ingram is the better goaltender now you know game one always has to go to riddick and then now we know that conor ingram has a little bit of skills here you know what jesse's right he is the perfect hockey man he doesn't learn from the evidence in front of him because he knows john hines agreed with me john hines was wrong no we we know we have now we have all of the information but didn't we have it no we didn't we didn't know until halfway through game one when they pulled reddish that he was gonna be ass halfway does he last for 14 minutes

halfway through the first halfway through the first yeah he allowed five goals and what's wild is it should have been six because when he went to his own blue line to make a play okay and then he scampered backwards all right that high pitch what did you hear in bunny i'm never gonna start the guy with three career professional nhl games over mr ridditch who's been there done that he's been there done that and been bad but at least he's been there done that give him the first start he's been there and not done it that's the problem with ridditch he's been there he's been tried you know john heinz and all his experience and david poyle and all his experience I'm sure all the Nashville Predators

brain trust got together before the series and they were like guys we have to sacrifice game one to the hockey gods we have to sacrifice it at the altar and just hope for the best the rest of the way they don't have a chance with this series

so to that point so it doesn't matter if I could throw this out there Connor Ingram's played a game and a half in the playoffs he's a 952 save percentage now I get it's one and a half games I get it i get it i get it but nashville in the last game allowed 51 shots they also blocked 34 oh yeah that's block shots were unbelievable well it's unbelievable but that's how outmatched they

are yeah yeah we have 90 attempts basically a lot of overtime it looked like colorado was on the power play because they were they were setting up in the zone and then they they take a shot they get the puck back they'd cycle it around they get another shot and nashville just blocking them but it was so tilted it was unbelievable hockey and kale mccarr again hero yeah uh what a goal and and this is the thing like it's for nashville it's like they really that's guts that was a gutsy effort they are clearly outmatched they got a rookie goaltender and they and they you know he stops you know 49 to 51 they stopped 34 more on block shots but if you're stopping that many shots that's super good but you're not going to score any goals because the puck's clearly

never not in your rent 49 consecutive saves by the way for ingram yeah does he allowed what the first goal on the first shot and jesse's chirping me right away he's like ah you big idiot and listen if i was him i'd do the exact same thing as soon as they saw that i went huh ingram's playoff career started oh for one you know he was a zero percent save percentage it zero and you know he makes a save and jesse's text me so he's at 50 you know yeah and then he never he allowed one more goal for the rest of the game he allowed the first shot he faced in the last one yeah 49 everything in between was perfect 49 consecutive that is i wonder how many like what's the record for consecutive saves in this season in one game because if you

bleed into other games you can probably beat that what's the i want to know just who had the most who had the highest shutout you know yeah sports net stats get on um there it wasn't like nashville didn't have their uh chances either because when um they'll be hemmed in their own zone it'd lead to one scoring chance the other way that's how they're gonna win anything every time uh the colorado would get like five shots and then there'd be one for nashville and if they could If Yossi could just bury it or Duchesne could just bury it, they'd get one, and that's all they needed. But they couldn't do it.

Okay, quick question for you. What are the chances Nashville scores three goals in a game this series? Good. Good. Because they're in the playoffs. They're a Stanley Cup playoff team. They'll find a way. I was going to say, there's going to be a game in this series,

probably within one of the next two games, where they outplay Colorado for a significant stretch. Because they're going home. right and those fans nothing like the nashville fans nothing like it nothing like it is it gonna make any difference i don't know yeah and the the difference between the best nhl team and the worst nhl team isn't that huge it's huge but it's not that huge in the fact that everybody can beat everybody on any given night you know no one's going over 82 in a season i'm just saying three goals i think three goals is a lot to ask from the predators against what based on the tilt that

We're talking about. I think three goals is a lot. Which means they're going to have to be strong. They're going to do it. Well, this is where John Hines gets to make his money, and he needs to make a better decision than he did with Riddick. He has to make an adjustment for game three because, I mean, surely the Predators aren't that bad.

Did you actually text you big idiot to Steve? No, I texted you, never talk to me ever again. That's what it was. That's what it was. And then I screenshotted one goal on one shot. Oh, my God. Oh, you weren't the only one. You weren't the only one.

My mentions lit up. Oh, well. I felt really stupid in that one. No, in the end, like, it's Connor Ingram's the goalie. Like, congrats on identifying that David Riddich doesn't have it. That's got to suck, like, sitting on the bench. Because, like, I think Riddich is on a multi-year deal. Why?

It might be two-year. I might be wrong. But you got to be sitting on the bench like, hmm, I'm never going to play here again. like dude you're not you're not forever based on one game one year deal sorrows ingram for oh well then forget it huh i better tell my agent to start looking elsewhere can we live can we uh interest nashville in a gently use peter morazic so they can try him out for game one next year um yeah but like your bet on connor ingram isn't a bet on connor ingram it's a bet against david

rid of that is fair that's true right that's fair i didn't no i didn't bank on that right you didn't identify this prospect that's gonna be awesome it's like oh you guys you said that guy we know his history so don't start that it was a very it was a very good observation yes question question which game is more indicative of how this series is gonna go game one or game two kings oilers former gretzky teams oh it's the all gretzky bowl game one game one um i mean the kings got fucking killed they got killed and uh they're a lot closer um which is this is it's still good news for the oilers because the same way that we're all cursing the penalties in game two and the leafs could have had that i mean the oilers should have

had game one as well or they should be up to nothing right yeah but i can't underestimate phil to know what do i keep saying well this is the problem now um one thing i would bet will not happen in la in any of the games that might happen in la is a six goal or their performance right especially with last change well last change like if you can if you can line know if you can line match you got you got kopitar to know like you said yeah if you can line match to know mcdavid and then kopitar dry saddle if they decided to split them up or whatever how they want to deploy them montreal had in their two series wins they had one there was one against toronto and there was one against vegas where uh their opponent completely kicked the shit out of

them right so there was the 5-1 win in game two for the leafs and you could argue for nothing in game four and then vegas killed them killed them in game one that series looked like it was going to be over in three and in the other direction but oh man he's he's taking notes he's watching tape i just have a hard time believing that's going to happen again it doesn't mean the others are going to lose it just oh boy that's going to be really difficult to replicate for me once it got to like the third i think it was the third period where they went up the big numbers where they're up five goals it looked to me like la said okay we did our business and admitted we got one of two yeah the important thing for us here was to get that first game we got we got one of these

two games and now we get to go back to la now we can try and take control of the series make it two in la so i think game one is definitely the closer uh the closer to how the series is gonna go because i think la is a very good team and yeah i think they they knew hey we already did what we need to do when we're here plus um sean dersey man we need to talk about that guy because uh he got ran by mcdavid and i don't know if alan walsh made a call to somebody in mcdavid's camp i don't know i don't know who sean dursey is oh you don't no never heard of him never heard of him you gotta you gotta pronounce it right how am i how am i pronouncing it wrong alan walsh there you go but he was in the box and uh mcdavid and who is he i think it was mcdavid and keith

or mcdavid and nurse i think it was nurse it was nurse nurse they were in the box next to him and he yapped at them for like two minutes straight and that dude's energy love it absolutely adore that all about that oh my gosh he's not taking anything these playoffs i like if they're coming with that kind of firepower just in the emotional standpoint of these playoffs and going at connor like i don't care you're the best player in the league no i'm yelling at you this entire two minutes and they sat there just like looking at him so um i believe in la i love i love everything i'm seeing david has a stank eh like oh yeah like he he doesn't forget like you know you're him jerseying a player oh yeah certainly certainly he's an emotional player even

though he in the press conferences he looks dead he looks and he probably exhausted but also like even pre-game he's like um he's like he talks like a robot yeah but but on the ice it's like mcdavid there is vengeance in that man oh yeah there's a dark side there's uh oh he's a sith for sure he's hating christiansen just before i have the high ground yeah he's even got the eyes a little bit yes yeah yeah the two minutes uh straight of chirping got me excited for agent provocateur the eventual episode with john percy yeah that's good maybe we should you know what we should do we should run that clip of him in the press box and error in the penalty box and ask him word for word what exactly he was saying if you could for us lay it out so we could script

this and i'll just have somebody put that john boy treatment yeah it's him yeah you couldn't put that on the internet 100 can you upload agent provocateur to a porn hub because it'd be that explicit it would be that explicit if you had to upload that it would be it would be it's it's a good point let's get into the stars and flames speaking of pornhub there's no connection like you can upload swear videos to twitter man you can upload porn to twitter okay did you know that uh that's why i took it too far no that's why i asked him because i knew there was no good answer i don't have snapchat because first day i got sent two dick pics did you screen grab them or i don't need that shit on my phone uh stars take down the flames

two to nothing i love this right at the beginning the the whistle blows and literally like after the first play matthew kachuk's like okay john klingberg let's go and and tries to dummy him a little bit but obviously the real story here is jake ottinger right and that's jesse's boy yeah that is my boy he's he's connor ingram to dallas for jesse yeah so what is it they were showing his like warm-up before the game did you see him like doing that he was like doing like a dead bug but like throwing a ball up in the air and catching it and just sitting there by himself all goalies are super weird all goalies are very weird and he's like six seven two like there are three teams who annoyingly just churn out goalies dallas is one of them

dallas is one of them the preds are another and uh carolina they're on their third goalie right now and you'd never know and there are teams that do not and they are the toronto maples have never had a good boy not yet not yet well i think the last time we turned out one was was reimer yeah they've only drafted like a dozen over the last three years right they're gonna hit on one reimer rask and i think pot band are the best picks they've made in the last 30 years god that's not great and pop in actually pop in was more than 30 years ago oh my god you're right yeah oh my he's in the late 80s it's 114 almost 115 straight minutes of shutout hockey for jake audinger it's a great goalie man yeah and calgary could have done a lot

better in just generating shots and generating scoring chances like i don't feel like they did enough but when it happened audinger was on his game they're trying to out sutter sutter and if any team can do it it's them yeah this is such it's such an unfortunate annoying opponent for calgary to get in a year where they really the path forward should be clear i mean there's two killers to me in the west it's colorado and calgary and on in the last day of the season decided you're gonna play one of you is gonna play one with no goalie and the other is going to play Jay Continger. Yeah.

And, like, Dallas, it sucks because they've successfully just slowed down the play so well that over two games, Calgary has one goal. And it's the exact opposite of how I think Calgary should be going at this series.

You know, like, open it up because Dallas can't play that type of hockey. This is the under-series. It would have helped if that puck went in off of Yanni Hockenpah. It just hit the post.

But, eh. Why is Calgary allowing Dallas to dictate play here? I don't think it's about that, man. What do you think it's about? I think we got to put some respect on Dallas, man. This is, I predicted a comeback for them this year. I mean, they shouldn't have missed the playoffs last year.

COVID, they had COVID. Yeah, a series of unfortunate circumstances. Well, in the snowstorm. Oh, right. They knocked out Texas, literally. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're better than their spot in the standings dictates.

i just have a hard time believing the deeper this series goes in a team that's got so much invested in ben and segan man is joseph is joseph elski ever gonna get old no he's good no he's a pointy game player and that goal was unreal about the wrongest i've ever been about a free agent was was yeah dude they signed him three years seven million per and he's been worth more and and he plays his best hockey in the playoff yeah yes he does he's such a fantastic player listen do one thing and do it well yeah go to the net tip it in thank you very much go to the net tip it in thank you very much if it were easy to move them players would do it go to the net tip it in thank you very much had to be nice too after kachuk and raffle went at

it and you know they they kind of made some insulting questions that i brought it up in the last show with with Sutter after the game they're like would you prefer Kachuk go at somebody who's like perhaps a little bit bigger on the lineup Michael Raffel scores the last goal of the game and I thought oh that's kind of karmic you know what I'm saying yes like not that it was a hard goal it was an empty netter but I just felt like you know he's a fourth line guy and he's sort of a defensive guy and and and it was just I'm sure it was for him like huh take that Matthew Kachuk should never be taking himself off the ice for five minutes at a time on purpose I agree with that Sutter doesn't but I agree with that you're a hundred point player no no like if someone gets

in his face he should go I don't have a problem with that but dude you're part of a triple hundred point line yeah that's such a good point it's a 40 they had a 40 well they had 40 goals okay fine you're part of a triple 40 goal line you you can't you have to be on the ice you have to be on the ice uh Rangers kind of leave no doubt uh against the Pittsburgh Penguins like this you know you could tell the last game kind of got away from them I'm sure the goal called back in game one kind of hurt them but Igor Shosturkin was Igor Shosturkin and what you saw I think which was more important than Igor being Igor was Artemi Panarin and the Rangers scoring kind of taking over and I thought that was a huge deal obviously Chris Crider's got two but Panarin got his first

had a couple points it seemed like there was just a far more confident New York Rangers team last night than we've ever seen big time well they couldn't go to pittsburgh down oh two um and i mean listen not every team is going to have a cinderella third goalie story and uh and pittsburgh did have theirs in game one you know louis deming coming in in very unfortunate circumstance for the penguins but i'm i'm sorry the penguins have to be astronomically better than the Rangers for the series

to be in their favor in a battle of Louis Domingue versus Igor Shosturkin. Dude, that's a guy who was in the minors most of the year versus the guy

who was going to win the Vezina. Yeah, he played in Wilkes-Barre for most of the year. Yeah. That's a good... It's probably

a good third goalie. Oh, yeah, but he's your third goalie and it's a playoff game and I feel bad for Penguins fans because your team works so hard

to get the playoffs. You're here, you win game one and all that and then your game two you're like oh we got our third goalie so if they can't get jari or just smith back like even to smith he can hold his own like it's it's not having jari but it gives you a better chance to win than to ming um i hope jari comes back before the end of the series but yeah because i want this to be competitive i think they have they have a really good team

they have a shot here if they had some goaltending i'm going to throw this at you it is sort of competitive because igor stirkin um has made 118 saves this series now they've played three games but he's made and one was two games that's what I mean two games in one but like he stopped

79 shots in the overtime loss and another 39 but that's how they play that is how the Rangers play the Rangers this year are the islanders

of old you know they formulated a team where it's hey we're not going to get a whole bunch of scoring chances we're going to allow

a lot of shots and our goalie's going to stop all of them because he's the best goalie in the world and then when we do get our opportunities

Panarin or Zabinijad is going to bury it or Adam Fox is going to go end to end and bury it Yeah, except the Islanders did a better job limiting those shots. Yes. Yeah, better systems.

But in the way that any time Barzal got a shot, he scored. Yeah, annoyingly so. Something to keep an eye on, too. Jake Gensel already has three. And they don't have, who's not in the lineup? Zucker. Oh. Yeah, Penguins, as always, are so injured.

No, Jake Gensel has three goals, is what I mean. He's not injured. Yeah, no, Zucker's injured. No, no. Yeah, no, listen, it's, sorry, I got confused. I'm talking about, sorry, I only said half. of thought he might be in game three ah there it is yes sorry i did not catch that you ever and then not say it all the time yeah they were all the time it was freeman on that the postgame

panel so that might be out for the next game and um one thing i said coming into the series is that or when i was making my debate for mike sullivan being coach of the year is that his defense core is letang and a bunch of guys um letang has played more minutes than anybody else in that entire every time uh mike sullivan needs anybody to make any kind of defensive play he sends out letang this is on that this is why there's no way that that threesome gets broken up all three will be back malcolm crosby letang they'll be oh they're coming back dude do you see my crosby thread yesterday no would you say it was dude so he scored um that dominant dominant goal yesterday and are you where he bullied his way into the middle of the ice

and then you got the rebound yes i know the rangers won but i'm always i always beat this drum of uh appreciating legends while they're still playing you know what i mean because i always have to do these retrospectives you know when a player's career ends and then you know but i watch players who are still playing and i'm like well no we can appreciate them right here right now yeah this is documented history in the making so what what i said is yesterday this was when Crosby scored this is Crosby's 176th career playoff game he'll probably end up over 200 when it's all said and done which is unreal in today's game for reference Zdeno Chara is at 200 games and he's 10 years older 11 right now actually because a month uh springtime is Crosby time he's

magic and then I said here are the guys who lead in playoff games played since 1997 and I chose that because 1997 was the first playoff after char was drafted even though he didn't play in the 97 playoffs uh crosby is the leading scorer among those players and he will likely lead in a bunch of categories also so the leader since 1997 in games played is marion hosa with 205 lindstrom 201 uh this is that's just since 97 too i don't know how many career games lindstrom's point is probably like 250 and char's 200 those are the only guys to eclipse 200 crosby's gonna get over there he already leads in scoring with 193 points he leads in goals with 70 now malkin's at 65 so the only guy who has a chance or sorry crosby is second in goals with 70 marlo is first

with 72 never won a cup wow yeah crosby's only two behind that's what it was it was that's why it was so frustrating when people were like disrespecting marlo yeah it's like fuck off he's literally the best playoff goal scorer of his generation yeah you just never watch san jose in the playoffs just say you never stayed up for the late game just say it and he just never played or sorry never won uh crosby leads an even strength points with 120 no one else has more than 92 out of the top 10 like dude he's a monster and and he's probably going to take over the goal scoring lead potentially this year and the only guy with any chance of passing him is his teammate his second line center dude we're watching history in the making he's only 34 and

he's going to be going for a while longer yeah that's it's such a important point to bask in the glow of the legends while they're still playing if he plays till he's 40 you know it's forget it yeah forget it man i i uh even 38 like four more runs and they and the penguins maybe went around or two come on that marlo thing maybe something stick out have you guys heard the story of jeremy ronick and what he said to marlo in the playoffs oh how could i not oh i know he said something to him but he trashed him in a book he trashed him in a book but he he said after marlo uh did not score in the first five games of a playoff series in 2011 he called him gutless and he said he was one of the five he said one of the five players he hated during his career

and i just thought like 72 goals in 195 games like that's fucking crazy that's really good in the in the best it's not regular season man that's that says so much more about jeremy ronick than it does about marlo it does i just i just it just made me think of that story now i remember the time thinking like listen i had my frustrations with marlo in toronto as he got older right fair And Jeremy Roenick was no slouch The contract is what made us upset with Marleau 100% and no Jeremy Roenick 153 games in the playoffs

53 goals no slouch in the playoffs No but like he was Calling him fucking gutless the guy is the leader Are you kidding me The only ding against him In terms of his stats so the screenshot I took Has the top 17 Playoff games played since 97

Only 3 of those guys are minus players Joe Thornton's a minus 35 which is kind of nuts in 186 games marlo's a minus 11 and 195 and the only other guy in 169 games minus eight cory perry interesting that surprised me he's uh he's close to cracking the top 10 but the problem is the two guys ahead of him are still playing so perry malkin and crosby have to skip over number eight chris draper oh wow yeah hey um uh minnesota comes back convincingly. Marc-Andre Fleury is a bounce-back game. And Kirill Kaprizov with a

hat-trick against the St. Louis Blues. Listen. What a monster. Another one I'm going to ask you. What is going to be more indicative of this series? Game 1 or Game 2? When it's all said and done. Neither. Yeah? Neither. I just, I thought like

to allow three goals I mean, you talk about a series revolving around Alan Walsh clients. three three goals from david perron uh all on the power play all from the same spot that's not going to happen again it's not and that's not disrespect for david perron it's respect for the minnesota wild and uh the wild having what was it six goals against st louis i don't think that's gonna happen again no nope um so i uh i'm excited to see the first game of the series tonight you know what i mean that's kind of that's kind of how it works sometimes first game of the series

might be game five do you if you're st louis jesse blake because you're the general manager in the room you got billy husso who had a good game one and a bad game two do you put bitter in stanley cup winner bitter i do not have enough mugs with my face on it that say no to respond to that question all right holy cow no i am riding billy husso all the way to stanley cup I bet you $1,000 Jordan Bennington expects it. To get in the game? Oh, yeah. And I say, go punch some air.

You're good at that? By the way, whenever we say that, Blues fans really don't like it. It's a hot ad. Why is it wrong to say the thing that's true? I don't know. Like, Blues fans normally super chill. But, man, when we talk about Bennington punching the air, ooh. But it's bad.

We get a lot of heat. There's a bunch of videos of it. No, he doesn't do that, though. That's not even picking on them. That's not most of the time is what they say. Listen, I say, like, a list of the nicest things ever about the Blues. And they, you know, don't lob on to the one thing. Come on.

Also, Jordan Cairo. You talk about him every show. I love him. And then I go, yeah, and Rob Thomas. On my bracket. And you can see all of our brackets at SDPN Sports on Instagram. All of our brackets are up there. The three of us plus Julian and Andrew.

I have the St. Louis Blues winning the Stanley Cup. because I believe in Billy Huso so much that I think he's going to carry them to the Cup. You picked the Toronto Maple Leafs, I believe. No, no, no, to win this series. Oh, this series. I did pick the Leafs. I can bring it up.

CJ, just to get back to your message, Jesse, he said no injury for Lilligren. Keefe says his experience has shown up a bit and he likes that Hall is an elite penalty killer. Steve Dangle. Boom! Wow! Come on.

That's why Hall is in as opposed to Lilligren. You know, I know I never played, but I've also been doing this for a decade. He said elite PK-er in the text, so maybe he means play killer. Could be. You don't know. How dare you? In this series, Steve had Minnesota over St. Louis in seven.

Seven. If I say in seven, that's me going, I can't decide. Adam had Minnesota over St. Louis in six. Wow. I'm pretty sure every series I picked was six games, because I think every series is going six games. I actually believe it. No, you picked Colorado in five.

Okay, well, that was fair. And then everything else in six. I think I feel pretty good about that. This, to me, was the hardest series to pick, though, by far. And then I had St. Louis. Julian had Minnesota. I am the only. Andrew had Minnesota.

I'm the only one sitting here right now on the SDPN Sports Instagram that picked St. Louis. You guys don't believe. No, we don't. No, there you go. I believe in Alan Walsh clients getting it done. Well, then you believe in Minnesota. There are more of them on St. Louis, I believe. I'm excited for the overtime penalty shot.

Sean Dursey is going to take on Marc-Andre Fleury. It's going to be like Homer and Marge watching Bart and Lisa. And they're both going to skate away as friends. Yeah. It's going to end in a draw. Both players get indefinite suspensions for point shaving. You can't just leave the ice. Isn't it at the end, too, where people rip the seats out

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There you go. What's this thing you want to get to, Adam?