The Steve Dangle Podcast - I'm Ready | July 16, 2021

Episode Date: July 16, 2021

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, haircuts (00:00), Zach Hyman is not returning to the Leafs and Steve is ready to talk about the Leafs (05:30), Gabriel Landeskog is asking for A LOT of mon...ey from the Avalanche (17:30), Frederik Andersen and Mike Smith to the Oilers and Darcy Kuemper to the Leafs (25:00), Ryan Suter to Boston (39:30), will Shea Weber play next season? (42:00), Ryan Graves is traded to the New Jersey Devils (46:00), Yandle is out in Florida and Duclair and Forsling are coming back (52:30), is Patrik Laine going back to Columbus? (56:30), and FULL FAST 9 SPOILER: Jesse gives a synopsis of the war between Vin Diesel and John Cena (59:30). Originally aired: July 16, 2021 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/8e-99E54sGs Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp Visit this episode's sponsors: https://magicspoon.com/sdp https://helixsleep.com/sdp https://freshly.com/sdp https://www.indochino.com/ https://www.betterhelp.com/sdp https://www.getroman.com/sdp Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 the steve dangle podcast with your host steve dangle adam wild and jesse blake i don't know if you can see it if you're listening to this episode you won't be able to see it but jesse's got a haircut that you can sit your watch to hey haircuts are a big deal now because in ontario you couldn't get a haircut for eight months yeah status symbol so now now haircuts are like a topic of conversation yeah people people like last spring people got mad at me when i got a haircut because my wife cut it but they're like all right you don't have to rub it in her face and sports knits getting your haircuts like they thought it was going to like some haircut speakeasy like prohibition style no my wife got clippers and cut it you know what was
Starting point is 00:00:49 funny in toronto is that you know none of us could get haircuts for eight months and my hair got huge And Jesse was like, like, like Jax's, uh, Jax's girlfriend, Michelle is a brilliant hairstylist and could have cut our hair. But Jesse was the one who said, no, you're in lockdown. You can't do that. And, and he was right. And, um, um, and, uh, and it, meanwhile, and this is the weirdest thing. all the tv people at every company in canada all had perfect hair the entire time like they got their hair cut and i was like nobody complained about that nobody complained but like i said you can't do it because you're a public figure like you can't come on here with a fresh haircut and be like no no it's just my hair you know like you have no no reasoning for that and you're right Freed didn't, and I guess CJ didn't. Mark Masters.
Starting point is 00:01:41 Mark Masters didn't. But, like, you know, and I'm not just talking about hockey. I'm talking about everywhere. Now, Freed, I'm not sure he would have cut his hair anyway. I think he likes his hair long and with those sideburns, and I don't blame him. I kind of like it too. I'm just imagining him with his, like, smooth, velvety voice
Starting point is 00:01:58 thinking, I'm glad this upsets you. Like, just, I can tell you find this off-putting, and I'm glad this upsets you. And now he needs to do the hair and the beard. yeah you know both they're both gone yeah but you need to bring them back oh i agree you know no i get there at the same time i want them coming back looking like thor now it's it's a friday show which means it is like bananas we've got so much to talk to or talk about i guess and i think you know the the right place to start uh has got to be um what it costs and this is this is important
Starting point is 00:02:33 going into this weekend because tomorrow at 4 or 5 p.m depending upon who you ask um it's five it is five okay because there's a lot of people tweeting four and i'm like it's not four i think it's five but oh and then if i disagree with them then i'm usually wrong so i didn't want to do that four central four central five eastern three pacific which is helpful because seattle seattle is pacific um so 2 p.m or 1 p.m if you're in saskatchewan it's 1 30 if you're in australia yeah yo that's got to be messy for newfoundland newfoundland is half an hour ahead of everybody else it's weird um listen uh i'm not often one to agree with alberta but supposedly they're trying to get rid of daylight savings time oh we we've already voted to get rid of it we're just waiting
Starting point is 00:03:21 on new york yeah fight the good fight yeah um so the the um so basically you got to know what it's going to cost for seattle to skip your player so let's say it's the steve dangle podcast and uh um i don't know chris johnson's got a show and he's an expansion podcast and he gets to pluck one of us right and you could only protect two of us and we go chris what's it going to take to leave our players alone chris and he'll he'll say to you a first and a third and that is what seattle is charging for you to for them to skip the player that you want them to skip and that's just one player so if you have a couple guys it's like well i'm gonna lose one of them so you got to pick which one you want to keep and it's for that extra spot uh basically it's like an extra
Starting point is 00:04:12 expansion you know security spot it will cost you a first and a third vegas charged through the nose by the way i came across one while doing a trade tree to take chris thorburn from the jets the price that vegas charged was a pick swap in the first round so they went from the 24th pick to the 13th and also an additional third with the 24th pick the jets selected logan stanley with the who they might lose to seattle with the 13th pick vegas selected nick suzuki that didn't work out for them no no well in a bit they uh regret that but through the nose imagine if they had held on to them how dumb the jets would look but now well you know honestly what's not done enough i think in the nhl are pick swaps like is that the last pick swap that we heard i i actually
Starting point is 00:05:03 really like the idea because it's sort of i mean you still get both teams still get what they want but i know like certain nba trades i think it was the celtics made a trade once and it's like we get to pick swap with you for like three of the next four years wasn't that with the nets i guess i don't even remember it's pretty good nets it was crazy and uh and one of those just i i don't know i think it's really an interesting way to move assets around and you still both get to keep your pick which is kind of cool now um freeze is effective as of tomorrow there's a roster freeze effective until july 22nd that's a long time doesn't mean teams can't talk doesn't mean we won't hear rumors but nothing can be official until July 22nd so there's a lot of uh a lot of
Starting point is 00:05:47 waiting going on and I think we're going to start with the Leafs here with regards to where we're at now Zach Hyman has been given permission to talk to other teams Adam can I stop you sure everybody I'm finally ready to talk about the Leafs okay all right so we're going to get to that in a second I wanted to bring up Zach Hyman in order to elicit a reaction as to where Steve stands right now because obviously in the last episode there there was people like oh you're so negative about the team that's lost and failed out five straight years how come you're not patient enough steve dangle so let's first off i want to ask you both zach hyman being able to talk to other teams i know it probably doesn't surprise you what i want to know is how it makes
Starting point is 00:06:29 you feel at first it made me feel bad and i was also confused as to why the leafs would do that other than like they're just oh shucks here you go zach we're doing you a solid that's we're losing a player who i love dearly well he's 29 an injury listen shut up i know i know but he's really good and i like the guy as a player in person and they're losing him i'm sad about that and it's basically confirmed that he's going to leave because he's speaking to other teams but apparently there's a method to the madness and uh the method has something in it for the leafs because they can now potentially because hyman wants term that's big for him he wants to go somewhere he wants eight years the only way he can get eight years if he is if he signs a contract with the team he
Starting point is 00:07:24 is on the team he is yeah sign and trade the team he is currently on is the Toronto Maple Leafs so and if he's not going to stay here then he can't do that so the Leafs could trade his rights that are actually valuable it's very often like I'm pretty sure the Leafs traded like Jonas Gustafson's rights for like a it was either a seventh or a conditional seventh right this is zach hyman he's one of the big fish here uh for free agency like he's i don't know top 10 for free agents he's high up he's he's certainly amongst forwards he's top 10 he's extremely highly valued and the leafs get to uh role play a seattle a little bit and uh charge you for their services jesse how does it make you feel so kevin mcgrann reported that the oilers flames canucks
Starting point is 00:08:14 penguins panthers bruins red wings have all inquired about zach hyman since the rights have been available what when a strange group when a reporter is listing that many teams all that says to me is oh hyman's gonna get the number he wants and it's gonna be a lot and the leafs can't afford a lot so i'm not gonna miss zach hyman because not signing zach hyman will be the right move because the cap hit is gonna be too much to keep up it's gonna be probably in the five six million dollar range with the Leafs can't afford it sounds like some teams are even willing to push it to like 6.5 6.7 which is crazy number for Hyman on the Leafs so it's like okay Zach Hyman would have been great on this team but if he doesn't fit under the cap at the right
Starting point is 00:09:00 number then the right move is to not have him losing him with the current circumstances is the right move and that pains me but it is there's also a little bit of resentment that the Leafs have to nickel and dime guys like Zach Hyman because of the situation that they happily put themselves in. Yeah. You can't overpay for Zach, which is unfortunate. Yeah. You can't overpay for less than elite talent guys. Yeah. I believe for anybody. Yeah. I believe the rumor was the Leafs offered him five times eight and he would have done it, but they're unwilling to do it. So they did offer it to him or they didn't? i believe it was offered or what no sorry it wasn't offered it was not offered yeah they're
Starting point is 00:09:46 under five but they didn't want to go eight they don't want to go eight with zach was no and i i have to tell you which i wouldn't want to do either he's going to be if they offered eight he'd be 37 when that deal ends and this isn't a backdiving deal this isn't a cap recapture deal but it's still not great and i'm getting i have to be honest with you i understand that there's a window and blah blah blah you can come out with those i am getting major dustin brown vibes from both gabriel landis cog and zach hyman the game that those guys both play i am like not that gabriel landis cog will be will be um will be like a bad player but dustin brown was a captain of a stanley cup winning team who signed an extremely long-term deal and went to you know
Starting point is 00:10:32 a point where his body almost broke down on him. Now he's been able to salvage his career, but don't tell me that the Kings are thrilled about that contract. Dustin Brown is the good, like the good outcome, but he wasn't like three of the years that he, that he was under contract. He was barely an NHL player for a while. You're absolutely right. But there's also Ryan Kessler who's like not playing at all.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yes. Right. You're talking about playoff warrior up until the moment he couldn't do it anymore. Yeah. He could do it until he couldn't. And then he couldn't do it at all. yeah you can never accuse him of giving anything less than 100 no and but this is the thing right
Starting point is 00:11:08 so if you're um if you're the leafs like that's an irresponsible contract it's just if this is the plan and and the plan is this with this group of people this core group of people and this is not an indictment on zach hyman i hope he gets every dollar and every ounce of every day out of that contract that he should. I think that contract would solidify the Leafs as what they are. I think re-signing Zach Hyman at this point for the Leafs does nothing for the Leafs because what the Leafs ultimately need to do and what they refuse to do is force real change. You know, I think last year Dubas did a really good job in the off season, especially TJ Brody. That was a great pickup. Wayne Simmons looked great. And then he broke his wrist like on a side blocking a shot.
Starting point is 00:11:56 Right. Yeah. And Thornton was a good was a good person to have in the dressing room, which they could have used. Right. And so I don't hate the Joey Thornton signing. I sort of hate the role they made him play for a while there. You know, Wayne just didn't look like Wayne. But if Wayne Simmons comes back in about the same form that he came in next or last season with, I think we'll be fine at seven or eight hundred grand, whatever they're paying him. The issue I have here is we're talking about a team that needs real change. and the general manager and the management group continue to be stuck on the fact that they're going to do it with this group. Now count me as a severe skeptic. Um, if they don't move one of these big core people, and I'm not talking about like, you can't even tell me TJ Brody's part of
Starting point is 00:12:42 the core. He's not, I'm talking about the core. I'm talking about the core and yes, Freddie Anderson's moving on, not a part of the core anymore in the last 18 months talking about the best players on the team there has to be a point where you say okay uh we can fiddle around the corners all we want here but we've committed a lot of money to guys that are just not going to get it done and that's where i think we're at so resigning zach hyman is just signing yourself up for more of the same and i just don't think that's right for the franchise and as the guy who basically kneecapped the conversation last show let me advance it by just saying like we should be done talking about that for the time being because he's just not going to do it
Starting point is 00:13:21 like he's already said that he's that they're not going to do it and but we do you know the one bit of comfort um you know because what's another year of your life after the past year and a half is you know cj and i believe some other people have said like listen they get a repeat of you know playoff failure again next year they don't make it out of the first round there is going to be that change could be Marner could be Tavares like it's going to be huge because you have no choice you know you can't do it some would argue you already know you can't do it they're willing to give them one more year to prove that they can't do it the answer appeared like you know the DeMar DeRozan comparable keeps coming up it seemed fairly obvious that season
Starting point is 00:14:12 but they did it again and they gave them all right this is it even though it's already obvious this is your last chance and then they didn't do it and then they made a seismic change and it ended up being good it's not always good this year should be the seismic change year not next kind of like what you said where babcock should have been fired after the the second game seven in boston yeah but we already know it's not gonna happen so um steve you did have a bit of a therapy session on your LFR sure did so tell us about it can I just say how much better I feel okay I feel so much better just getting it off my chest because I know a lot of folks are mad at me and I'm all over the place like I'm on Twitter I'm on this podcast I'm on my YouTube channel
Starting point is 00:14:59 I'm so many places and sometimes the message gets distorted or it gets confusing and you hear me say one thing one day and something else the next in a slightly different context but it's enough that it's very confusing so i thought all right here it is one take no editing i'm just going to tell you exactly how i feel i'm obviously still elise fan um i'm not abandoning lfr i stand by the fact that it's i for next season i genuinely don't know what to do so adam before you joined us jesse was like yeah but game one next year and i'm like you know what game one i always get excited game one i always get the nerves and but if the leafs get out there and they shit kick whoever they played you know whoever they play first let's say it's the habs imagine that uh i still think back
Starting point is 00:15:50 to the beginning of the 17 18 season i was so high on the team they just had that 17 playoff run against the caps the young guns and then they signed patrick marlo and they slaughter the winnipeg jets 7-2 game one what did it add up to shit no you know what it added up to they made it one game farther in the playoffs than they did the year before instead of losing in six they lost in seven hooray so like i don't i don't think anything about the regular season at least in the first few months could possibly get me hype about the team but fandom is about caring and i'm certainly not a guy who does not care obviously but i am mad liking your team all the time no matter what takes no effort none being a leaf fan is being a fan on legendary difficulty
Starting point is 00:16:44 okay and look at me i'm still here so are the rest of you still here it's the hardest thing to do but i'm letting you know why i'm mad and that's all that's okay i'm not leaving i'm not abandoning the career that i've built but god damn these guys are exhausting well no kidding about that now um uh there's also and like i sorry one one final thing there listener benefit trumps everything but there are i think you've all extrapolated there are very obviously things i cannot tell you yes there are things i cannot tell you and perhaps one day i will um that have upset me in personally okay but i'm getting over them and we're moving forward um okay so when you hear gabriel landis cog at nine or ten million dollars a season
Starting point is 00:17:45 i'm not gonna burst out laughing like i did for nuge but like bro what that dude is the he's like the third best forward on the abs and maybe their fourth best player and I was talking to Drew about it today he's like oh maybe fifth because McKinnon is better Rantanen is better Makar is an elite defenseman so you could argue better and Drew said Devon Taves might even be in that conversation like nine to ten million dollars the big fish always gets overpaid I'm gonna say about Landeskog what I've said about every free agent for the past year and a half the money's not there now is the money not there that that it makes it fair for the abs to come in and offer them five a year which is apparently where they're at that is too low
Starting point is 00:18:35 that is too low so if they're you know if they're offering seven and a half if they're offering them eight years which they are which they are yeah but i don't think it's five times eight or if i'm I don't think I take five times. It is five times eight. Five to six times eight is the report. Who would you rather have, Nugent Hopkins or Landis Gog, or is it a wash? Landis Gog.
Starting point is 00:19:00 I'd rather have Landis Gog. I think they're both fantastic players. They would both make the Leafs better. But I would rather have Landis Gog. So if he's upset that he's being offered less than Nugent Hopkins, I totally get it. But I don't know where he thinks he's going to go. who has that kind of space for him
Starting point is 00:19:21 and who is also good. I don't understand. Do you know his list of teams? Because that was also out there. The list of teams from Andy Strickland is Florida, Tampa, Vegas, Toronto, New York, St. Louis. By the way, none of those teams
Starting point is 00:19:38 except for New York have the cap space. Sorry, you lost me after Tampa. Say it again, please. This is where Gabriel Landeskog from Andy Strickland expects to receive the nine million dollars either from florida tampa vegas toronto new york islanders or st louis blues nobody's got that cap the blues are like the only team who might and that's after
Starting point is 00:20:04 they trade tarasenko and they and they want hyman too by the way hilarious like the islanders are over the cap by the way they're they're in overage uh there were what like 10 teams who are going to be in overage for next year and the islanders are the leafs by the way no no hilariously well at least they can do that that's good yes the habs i believe are in overage islanders like it wasn't insignificant like it was uh 1.3 or something like that which is like you know i know the leafs aren't in overage but they are giving that's a right winger on your third line right it's dude it's something it's something for god's sake um i think this is a case where it's negotiation tactics i think where you ask above what you expect to get you if you ask for nine
Starting point is 00:20:54 to ten you probably land at seven to eight which is where land is called should be it should he shouldn't be at five to six he shouldn't be at nine to ten he should probably be at seven to eight so you ask above that you get that number out there and maybe one of these teams pays you 7.5 here's the problem too though if even if you meet at seven seven and a half um colorado probably expects to get there i would think but but beyond that feelings are hurt now because landis god through sources has leaked the fact that his feeling he's upset with their initial offer yeah and so here my question is you know as an as another gm let's say he goes to open market and i also value him at seven years seven and a half million somewhere in there um am i gonna
Starting point is 00:21:40 hurt his feelings when i come in at seven six and a half something like that because his camp is going to continue to ask for nine to ten so you do have to come in like how do you if we're going to take negotiations personally which you should never do if if if you if you are and i understand it's his home team i get it but you should never take that shit personally this is a negotiation this is how it works um the the i would be worried about that i'd be worried about my initial offer to him because it would be like am i gonna offend this guy if i well if you're if you're a team trying to sign him and he gets offended by your first offer then you don't want him anymore you're you're the gm you're like i don't want you then don't play here no and like listen to who
Starting point is 00:22:22 we're talking about it's gabriel landis cock like we're talking about him like he's this diva like oh he's not no no i know but like it's very obvious that um there's there's a lot of gossip going on and there's i think leaking going on on both sides and one is an amazing player who has given his life for the avalanche he's been their captain since he was 19 and the other is an amazing team who is poised to be a contender for the stanley cup every year for the next few years they need to both grow up they need to both probably make a little bit of concessions and they need to they need to stay together listen i would love there's all these all land of scog to the leafs bro i would love it that doesn't make any sense stay with the abs
Starting point is 00:23:11 well and all the insiders have to say is well the leafs have interest which means dick all because the leafs have interest in every great player as any do you have interest in a brand new house uh you know i do wow i do a million dollar house do you have interest the leafs all all the leafs have interest means is kyle dubas's phone is charged like that's literally all it means sorry you can look at a stat sheet yeah like who wouldn't be interested in landis cock he's a great player yeah it's it's listen oh listen what what are the words what are the words interest fart we don't care about interest whispers rumblings can you power rank these can you power rank them like okay so cj has them power ranked
Starting point is 00:24:03 and i need to i need to here i know it's on his twitter because i looked this up he's tweeted this before did he do this yeah oh yeah he 100 of this oh that's incredible oh man that's cj i I mean, someone put it together for him as like a meme, but it is very funny. By the way, we should let you know that we've got CJ book July 30th to come on the show and wrap everything up. All the bananas, all the banana sandwich that you're going to see in the next two weeks. CJ will come on and talk about all of it. So trades, expansion, draft, draft, free agency, all of it. CJ will be on to wrap it up.
Starting point is 00:24:36 Okay. So here it is. Okay. Interests. It's not even on there. Okay. Talk. Oh.
Starting point is 00:24:44 whispers rumblings oh intel let's go that's what it's all about intel up there and then obviously not uh in the rumor category is confirmed that's the final piece don't care about interest it's talk it's whispers it's rumblings and intel and confirmed interest fart fart on interest i'm interested in farting on that take uh also um it looks like freddie anderson's going to get four plus million apparently from a western canadian team gee i wonder who um there are there are rumblings i would rate that as a rumblings that freddie anderson by the way has not been given permission to talk to other teams so that's interesting but uh hyman has but freddie anderson they're they're saying that there are teams out there there's deals out there at least
Starting point is 00:25:47 in the four million dollar range for freddie anderson i just don't know how long we haven't seen much of that and they're in on hyman again i'm asking what the oilers do so like ken holland big hockey canada guy is going out and getting to like the biggest hockey canada guy duncan keith who uh just turned 38 today happy birthday there Duncan and then it's like all right who's the most impressive team that I watched last year literally and the answer was the Leafs because the Oilers only ever played the Leafs in the regular season so he's going to take their goalie and he's going to take their uh top left winger like listen uh Freddie will probably make him better and so will hyman but again i'm dying to see i'm dying to see just something interesting
Starting point is 00:26:36 with the edmonton something creative with the oilers duncan keith is sure as shit interesting you know it's gonna i wouldn't call it creative you know it's gonna be creative when they re-sign mike smith again and justify it i and i can't wait now it doesn't mean they won't sign freddie but a freddie mike smith uh tandem means you're going to be playing your third goalie a lot and i think that's going to be fat oh come on no i mike smith is mike smith is almost 40 it's he had a good season last year but it's a lot to expect of a guy like that and freddie didn't play after what january no february he had the one that one game against the Sens listen I have no doubt that Frederick Anderson healthy is still a legitimately great
Starting point is 00:27:23 NHL goalie but even we haven't uh we haven't seen it for two years man now uh the Leafs have apparently of interest in Darcy Kemper have hell yeah this is from Frank Cerevalli so good interest it's good source but no it's not on the chart well what he said was on the chart uh Darcy Kemper has emerged as a primary target for Toronto Maple Leafs and Colorado Avalanche both teams have made contact and uh have had conversation with the pending with their pending free agents anderson and grubauer uh but trade talks have been ongoing with arizona and the abs and leafs sorry if the abs and leafs consider um the goaltending market at large the seattle kraken are also believed to have interest if he's available um he's 31 he's got one year left at 4.5 million although the
Starting point is 00:28:08 real cash this is the interesting part is 5.5 so it'd be very few teams that would want to take that on um and someone gave me a fainting couch he has told arizona that he's not signing there again so and arizona's internal cap is rumored to be about 65 million next year which means he's got to get traded oh and their problem is uh they got to protect aiden hill yes they got to do something with kemper because they got to throw their protection on aiden now the thing is the Leafs don't want to make this deal before the expansion draft. Because they'll lose Jack Campbell.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Because they'll lose Jack Campbell. But the Avs could. And relatively simply, I would think. Do they not have a goalie signed? Well, Grubauer's gone. I mean, I guess... Well, they're working on a deal with him. Well, they're saying that Kemper will be another guy
Starting point is 00:29:02 if Grubauer's gone. Because Frank Cervalli just said They have talked to Grubauer, but I haven't necessarily seen that they're close. So I didn't realize this. So Grubauer and Dubnik are their goalies. Both are UFAs. And then I'm looking at their other goalies. I think Hunter Miska, Jonas Johansson, I know they just signed,
Starting point is 00:29:30 who I assume is their exposed goalie at the moment. And then they got a 20-year-old guy named Trent Miner and Justus Anunen, who's got some great numbers in Europe, who neither of those guys would even be eligible to be taken by Seattle. So, yeah, right now, it looks like Colorado's goalie of consequence is Hunter Miska. Oh, I didn't realize it was quite like that. Now, which could be a good situation. Yes. Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's not going to stay that way, right?
Starting point is 00:30:01 Right, right. um we fart on interest but frank cerevalli sprinkled in a word what's the word primary ah primary targets is frank he's a smart man that frank he tweeted that out and when it was still in drafts he went you know what all this says is interest and people are going to fart on this en masse and then he throws in primary target oh i'm listening frank okay give me that hot sauce frank i'm trying to figure out if that kemper deal has to be done in the next 24 hours before 5 p.m or 4 p.m tomorrow i don't you know because okay so if they because they're gonna they're gonna protect aiden hill
Starting point is 00:30:50 and kemper is going to be exposed is that who seattle wants from arizona is there anybody else on the team that you would take if there's not then you have to make a deal within the next couple hours else you're going to lose this goalie for nothing and connor garland is also supposedly being shopped um i tell you what uh let me be selfish as a leafs fan and throw this out there if arizona has an internal cap one guy who makes less than his cap it is alexander kerfoot and you're going to want an abundance of guys like that who actually make less than their cap hit, but there's not exactly a million of them available.
Starting point is 00:31:32 So I wonder... Man, they should have gone out and got Duncan Keith. But the Leafs can't make that move and then leave Campbell exposed. Right. The Leafs are out. You could do a move where the base is Garland for Kerfoot. It's the base.
Starting point is 00:31:49 And Kemper? No, Kemper wouldn't be involved. You could do a handshake deal where you wait. You could do something like that. I don't know. I'm just cooking. Spitballing. You know, it's interesting.
Starting point is 00:32:05 At the end of Sir Volley's point on this particular daily faceoff, which, by the way, is his new network, he said other goaltenders potentially on the Maple Leafs list, and literally he named all of them. So here we got. and potentially boo primary is a better p word than potentially for pending ufas uh lena solmark peter marazic chris trider yaroslav halak and potential trade car uh targets yonas carposalo or mark andre flurry now i have mark andre flurry didn't make too much sense to me just because he
Starting point is 00:32:39 makes seven and a half million dollars no but the performance aspect of it and the fact that he's a wicked guy and the fact that the leafs probably need big personalities like mark andre flurry in the dressing room like very clearly last year they went out and got personalities for that dressing room and i think that should tell you something i think if you're a leafs fan you might want to pay attention to the personality angle that they went with last year and go maybe this isn't a close dressing room or maybe this is a dressing room that needs a older steadying influence who knows support just
Starting point is 00:33:13 it's a lot of support they went you know what's gonna happen here what Seattle on what is the expansion Jeff Wednesday yeah we're gonna be sitting here on Wednesday or the next show after the expansion draft and Seattle's gonna have like five goalies and they're gonna flip them because
Starting point is 00:33:30 like you just named like guys that could just be off to Seattle who they use then to flip for other guys like Drieger Flurry Kemper, Kapokakit Kakunin Kakunin on Minnesota. There's four goalies right there
Starting point is 00:33:46 who could all be your starter, who could just be on Seattle. You take three of them, you get another backup. Maybe that's like Jake Allen and you flip those for other assets. So what Vegas did was they got an abundance of defensemen and they flipped a bunch for assets. What Seattle could do
Starting point is 00:34:02 is that, but with goalies. I think it's going to happen. That's a great idea. You listed off so many good names just hoarding goalies i love it well and it's it's funny because they got to go somewhere and like seattle might not get a ton for them it's it's a little different there are yeah there's just so few goalie jobs right you got to make sure there's a market where teams need these guys i i do want to jump in with something when we're talking about goalies guys i'm sorry to do this and i can't confirm this right now but i've been looking for the exact quote there is apparently uh frege did and i i know frege and all the insiders hate when we do
Starting point is 00:34:43 this um when they're talking he did a hit in edmonton for radio and i don't want him to get radioed here but the the from what i'm reading he said it's a one to two year deal for mike smith that they're looking at with the oilers okay i mean he he was very good last year two years he to me the problem with mike smith re-signing at edmonton is you're signing him because he was a great starter for you last year and i just feel like that's not the role he should be in it's you're putting way too much on a dude so he's going to turn 40 this season which means if you sign him to a two-year deal he will be 41 playing hockey games when he's 41 by the end of there are very few goalies who have done that in nhl history um you need to have a starter or
Starting point is 00:35:38 bare minimum a tandem goalie to play with them if you're going to sign them i think even to one and that guy ain't miko koskinen right so you got it you got to move on from him and if you bring in mike smith you better have another guy waiting in the wings yeah now uh Moving on to outside of the Leafs, Captain America, Ryan Suter. Apparently, no shortage of interest expressed in Ryan Suter. This, again, according to Frank Cervalli. So I guess he's had a bunch of people. And I think I said this.
Starting point is 00:36:10 I don't know if I said this on the show, but I know I said it to Steve. I know I said it to Steve. Here are the teams that really want him. So here, first off, why don't you guys go ahead and guess. What teams really want Ryan Suter? Go ahead. Hit me. Are the Islanders more than one team?
Starting point is 00:36:25 The Islanders really want him. Islanders really want him. But that's not the prediction I had. I'm like, this is where he's going. I know where he's going. I know where he's going. I would say just the Islanders. Who else would be interested?
Starting point is 00:36:37 Merrick got me very interested with the Habs so he could play with Shea Weber, which I guess we're getting to. Suter's not going to Canada. To me, it was the Islanders and the Islanders and the Islanders. If you say Tampa or Vegas, I'm going to kick you in the chest. Jesse, wild stab in the dark. Who do you think is interested in Ryan Suter? So not wild stab in the dark.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Something I saw Greg Wyshynski tweet was Boston Bruins, but I didn't see a fit there. Oh, so like Captain America? I see where you're going with this. The Rangers? No, Boston loves signing their American guys. And Ryan Suter is the perfect Boston Bruin. And Boston, for some reason, somehow, some way,
Starting point is 00:37:17 always walks away with a pretty good catch every trade deadline and every free agency. I don't know how they do it. they always seem to manage they do let people go good old manners too right like they just they let Zidane O'Chara walk last year like who did they trade there was a defenseman they yeah and and they and who do they get they get Taylor Hall they could get Ryan Suter and by the way the other two teams Steve were Vegas and Tampa interested I'm gonna kick you in the chest I just I have to I have to drive down there and kick you in the chest there's where what are they
Starting point is 00:37:52 operating with holy smokes who's getting surgery this time i guess i'm not this guy i'm i'm not oh the cheated guy but like when are they ever going to be out of the conversation holy shit well stamkos will probably sit all next year until the playoffs what i'm sure he's got it and he's stamped stamkos got injuries oh my god right oh my god we already know they can win without him they already did it isn't sitting he's not sitting no i think he's sitting there's no reason for that you could actually calorn could probably sit with the rod he had surgically inserted into his leg i mean it's pretty hard to to make an argument against that um but yeah boston tampa golden knights um and the islanders of course and two and five
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Starting point is 00:39:53 do not rule out the Habs making a play for Jack Eichel. Oh, well, we've been talking about them in a number one center for a long time. But it's amazing, like, after this past playoff run, were the centers of the problem? Like, do we look at the Montreal Canadiens organization? Let's assume they re-sign Philip Deneau. They have Nizuki.
Starting point is 00:40:16 They have Yosperi Kokuniemi. Deneau is going to go to market, is what we understand. Yeah, but going to market doesn't mean he won't be back. You know what I mean? I think somebody is going to overpay for Deneau, and he's not back. It could be the Habs. Okay. You know, it could easily be the Habs.
Starting point is 00:40:34 It wouldn't surprise me, and we've talked about this. The Habs have the assets to make this happen. but sort of like ryan suiter is captain america i think jack eichel really really really likes playing in the states i think he does i think he's a really proud hockey usa guy i mean so is matthews and he plays in toronto and seemed to enjoy it just fine 41 goals in 50 games or whatever it was but i i think jack eichel would prefer to play in the states is it enough of a hang up that he wouldn't go to Montreal great question I don't know I'm interested to see how he I mean he's got to get past this neck issue somehow some way and the Habs have to be on board
Starting point is 00:41:17 with it and this Shea Weber situation is absolutely fascinating and completely out of left field I don't know that it is completely out of left field though Nick Kiprios did say a year ago hey he may never play again and everybody's like when the Canadians were like you're an idiot The tweets underneath it are fascinating. We should probably explain what happened before, just in case anybody listening doesn't know. What do you mean, with Shea Weber? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:41 Didn't we talk about it? No, that happened after Wednesday's show. Oh, okay. Well, so Shea Weber's got a thumb, a knee, and an ankle injury. The thumb's not going to hold him out, but the knee and the ankle apparently are. And it will hold him out, what, the entire... They're saying at least all of next season.
Starting point is 00:41:55 At least all of next season. But if they make the playoffs. So this is the thing. players there are probably god knows how many players who are going to play next season who could go out and get the exact same type of surgery you know what i mean not necessarily the same body parts but same significance right these guys put they make millions of dollars for a reason they're literally sacrificing their bodies if you've ever uh met like hockey players who are like way beyond retired several years like you you see it you see it when they're older
Starting point is 00:42:30 um but after montreal just lost to the tampa bay lightning and because it's the off season and we're all in business mind mode the first thing i thought was if the habs make the playoffs next season this dude's playing I don't think they're trying to scam the system, but if this guy does what he needs to do, like Kucherov did, rehabs it, like Kucherov did, and ends up healthy at the end of it, like Kucherov did, and they make the playoffs, like Kucherov's team did, I think he's playing. he didn't look done to me in the playoffs you know what i mean like he is obviously in pain it's obviously limiting him in some capacity but i just i have such a difficult time believing that the player i just watched go all the way to the stanley cup final is done i hope he's not genuinely i hope we'll see we shall see um uh along with that uh uh we should probably talk
Starting point is 00:43:48 about two defensemen that were traded uh or one defenseman was traded avalanche trading um ryan graves to the devils uh for mikhail maltsev and a second round pick now graves um basically allows them to protect tase mccarr and sam gerrard uh because um the avalanche got eric johnson to waive his no move and you know the thing with graves is that abs fans really like and aren't aren't particularly happy about having to lose him like that although i can't say i feel bad for you you got devon tase for like nothing last season well and they got a second round pick out of this and maltsev who uh i saw some stats guys were relatively high on and there was this one goal he scored last year
Starting point is 00:44:33 against the Rangers. It's one of the best goals of the season, but it's a guy you've never heard of scoring it, so it doesn't matter. It didn't make the headlines that it should have. This dude, he dangled, it was either Georgiev or Shosturkin, from
Starting point is 00:44:49 his knees. It was just splitting the D and everything. It's a sick, sick goal, and it's Joe Sackick making the deal. I gotta think he knows what he's doing, and he got good value here. graves is known for a plus 40 rating in 2019 2020 the first player to do that since on on the apps oh oh on the apps what do you think just guess joe sakic no but close the other joe sakic of the
Starting point is 00:45:18 apps peter forsberg yep and malone malone as well yeah so pretty cool right uh does this mean pk suban is going to the seattle kraken i don't think so not at nine million dollars a year but he will be it's only one year yeah that's the thing you you you bring in pk for one year you don't think that guy's going to be a great spokesperson for seattle you there's no question about that first year ever you bring in pk just to be on the mic like that's that's just your mic guy just brings up well this is an extremely good point so you do got to get butts in seats or i mean panini but you got to get people interested what we haven't heard this year at least i haven't heard at all vegas had like four or five six guys actually at the expansion draft putting on vegas
Starting point is 00:46:09 golden knights jerseys flurry was the big one flurry was the big one there was also derrick engeland who is a vegas native so that was really big i believe james neal was there uh there were a handful of guys uh was riley smith i can't you tell new jersey you call up new jersey tomorrow you tell him we're taking pk no matter what he's exposed you bring you fly him out to seattle for wednesday you let him stand up there and tell everybody who the rest of the team is i think jersey would be thrilled to get nine million dollars off the cap or how about this let me be clear about this has nothing to do with pk personally i think the thing is he makes a nine million dollar hit and you've heard us talking about the salaries we've been like landis gog
Starting point is 00:46:51 should get seven and a half pk's back has has failed him and it's a question of whether he's healthy and if i am the seattle kraken i don't take on that nine million dollar salary i want to make i'm not gonna help i can help you i could find someone else to talk you said suban or sorry you said salary bonuses have or signing bonuses sorry have already been paid yes july 1st all right let me throw this out there he makes eight million bucks this year six million has already been paid seattle doesn't need to save money they get the money but i'm just saying you you're you're talking about all the devils would love to i'm sure they would love to shed the cap but there are cash poor teams the devils might be one of them who would actually yes actually please i
Starting point is 00:47:37 would gladly take but they were two million bucks but steve they already paid the bonus that's the opposite of what you're thinking they already paid oh yeah you're right you're right so but a team like if a team like the coyotes perhaps yeah yeah that would make sense it's an easier you'll have an easier job uh convincing the uh the kraken of it i wonder if you just call the devils up and you go listen we don't have to do this but we but we're going to give us something give us anything third round that's not how you negotiate if the devils are smart they'll say no you want pk gone it's a first and a third thank you very much you want the you want this you want the cap thing and that's what i would do i think and he's there one year i think there's a guy
Starting point is 00:48:23 that's a guy who you bring into a young fun team and this will never happen but a young fun team young fun team with no money honestly i think it's a wonderful idea young fun team no money ottawa senators oh so he can go play montreal six times a year and whenever he comes to toronto he's from toronto so already if he scores if he does anything good for 12 games of the year you're pissing off the opponent and ottawa just freaking loves that they love that and pierre mcguire would i don't know i don't even know what pierre would even stay when when pk showed up he would just freak out it would be a half an hour long diatribe about what a monster pierre mcguire sorry pk suban is where he played every i don't i don't hate that idea for hey here's a triple
Starting point is 00:49:13 eight he was 12 years old he's playing triple a st mike's majors i don't know if that's true or not i don't hate that idea let me throw something out there do you know pk suban has a podcast yeah it's fucking great you were on it or you know i was on it yeah hey he didn't come on here I was on one of the first episodes you know who else was on one of the first episodes episode 2 in fact Jerry Bruckheimer
Starting point is 00:49:40 owner of the Seattle Kraken owner of the Seattle Kraken there's some sleuthing there's some literally just remembered and googled hey I'm the third thing that comes up this is bullshit alright breaking news PK to Seattle
Starting point is 00:49:56 it's not a crazy idea it's really not it's really not um so uh the florida panthers have bought out keith yandel i mean they you know they tried to sit him the team almost had like a fucking meltdown because he was gonna have his street broken and so they're finally like fine we can get rid of you now and so they're buying him out so they can keep gustav worsling but one thing that they did do and i'm really happy about this is anthony duclair finally got the long-term deal he's been looking for and he did it himself and Seattle is taking them no three years three million per season well done Anthony Duclair
Starting point is 00:50:34 yeah he got the payday he maybe should have got last year but didn't I'm curious though what we didn't ever find out how much Ottawa offered we know they offered money and we know they offered term but it clearly couldn't have been that much plus he gets to be in a winterless place which is incredible good for him he would have had to been uh like tendered a contract because he was an RFA so like there's a default tendering slot and they just chose not to qualifying offer or whatever but they did they did say at the time well we offered him an extension just didn't yeah they offered him something else that would have been much below that whatever the baseline of qualifying would have been so i i don't know what that is though probably like league men interesting well
Starting point is 00:51:15 good for him happy for anthony duclair well earned and pretty cool and i also occasionally like listen i'm not going to go out and tell you that it's a good idea to negotiate without an agent but if you can do it and you feel good about it good for you and i still feel like he gets to stay in florida yeah and that's the that's the bonus there too um we did uh and jesse made note of this we did miss um uh talking about pecorino uh uh retiring last year there's so much like yeah you gotta forgive us sorry also like genuinely sorry but what are we gonna say man he was great and the one story i love about pecorino is apparently uc sorrows lived with him for a year and you guys know this story no okay so uc sorrows the story goes that uc sorrows
Starting point is 00:52:00 lived with him for a year and which i think is so cool when players do that like sydney lived with mario and there's there's other uh other stories like that around the league so uc sorrows lived with him like in his basement for a year and only at the end of the season did uc sorrows who grew up watching him have the balls to go up to him and ask him to sign a stick oh isn't that cool yeah that's cute great story adorable yeah i thought that was pretty cool and like it just kind of speaks to and pecorine's um the best goalie in in predators history by a country mile all the way to the stanley cup final um and sometimes a bit of an enigma right like great year oh my god what happened to pecorine always back oh he's gone again you know but when he was
Starting point is 00:52:45 dominant hard to find a goalie that was better than pecorine in his prime and probably with those nashville teams you know the the year that they had both they they signed both kostits and brothers and the rad and and alex radulov and you know that year they probably should have gone to the finals that team uh i feel that like that was 2012 that 2012 predators team was pretty spectacular and gets basically forgotten um didn't have the marquee superstars that you would expect except for maybe pecorino himself um and you know of course they had i think they had suitor and Weber and some pretty big names but didn't have like Sidney Crosby or Alexander Ovechkin who were the stories of those playoff years at that point I have to say that Nashville team was pretty
Starting point is 00:53:30 unbelievable and it's weird looking back that they didn't get further than the second round it's funny so I just went back I was going to be like he had to be one of the best players in his draft let me let me look back who who's played the most games that oh have you guys heard of alex ovechkin he was he was in the same draft but renee uh by far the most games by any goalie 683 devin dubnik in second with 542 i don't think anyone's going to catch him and renee eighth round 258th overall in a round that doesn't even exist anymore not bad pekka not bad at all that'll do um also uh also to mention here that um hang on i'm just pulling it up here um there was one last note that i wanted to uh throw out there um patrick lining jesse you made a note about
Starting point is 00:54:27 patrick line i hadn't seen anything something about him staying in columbus i'll read it right to you so uh patrick linea told a a i guess it's a website in finland that i hope i can stay in columbus this is the starting point but you can never be sure what happens i got traded once i really haven't thought about the contract negotiations at some point they will let me know what the situation is and they will ask what i think about this proposal do i want to take the contract and then we continue the negotiations so that's what he said about staying in columbus and i also saw somewhere that it was confirmed that remember he was disciplined from mouthing off to a coach in columbus yeah it was confirmed that it was an assistant coach and that assistant
Starting point is 00:55:15 coach is now the head coach brad larson i mean fights happen you can make up but a bit concerning yeah well i mean i think columbus fans are pretty upset that they're still not over the fact that he is the coach they're not happy about it yeah that was uh i was surprised because i had never really heard of him and then when it was announced i was i was pretty surprised by how upset they got jackets fans sure know him and are not fans so i mean maybe he surprises right like anything happened i think it's interesting when players go overseas because that's when we usually get the whoa he's trashing the nhl and everything in it and patrick liner goes overseas to finland does this uh interview in finnish and he praises columbus and he says he wants to come back so
Starting point is 00:56:02 what's what's the motive didn't he have a uh a finnish interview earlier in the season that said this year was a mess or something like that i don't remember there was some there was another interview i i think this interview is a balancing interview i don't think that that interview i there was another interview at the end of the season about the blue jackets that was he said he was awful but i also think he said that it was awful there you know what though here's proof that you know you can get over it is uh i remember like way back in like the old sports net backup studio we were talking about this player who went overseas and he trashed a teammate and we're like surely one of them is gone.
Starting point is 00:56:42 And it was Kucherov trashing Killorn. Yep. They got over it. They got past it. They're okay. I have to ask you guys, what's the money value? Remember, line 80 is not signed. So what's the money value for a guy like that?
Starting point is 00:57:00 Because if Columbus is going to ask him to play the same role as he was playing last year, like if you if they're trying to turn them into a power forward it's not going to happen but also if you're a one-dimensional player you're not going to get the big dollars i don't care how much you score if you're a defensive liability we can't play in certain situations five on five it's difficult yeah it sure is it's gonna be very fascinating to see um this is also an interesting point in there in this upcoming draft because they have three first round picks they got tampas toronto's and their own and i think patrick line i feel like he confuses everybody
Starting point is 00:57:44 because of how big he is like he's an underrated big guy he's like i think he's six four on skates which is just not typically um the stature of a guy who only scores you know you have this giant body on the ice and you you look at him you wanted to play these defensive roles you want to use his skill in a lot more ways but that's just not the way his abilities work you know it's it might be what it should be nature to his his body type and his his i assume his playing ability what he can do but that's not what he is at the nhl level he's a scorer so i think he's so confusing to columbus and winnipeg and the two teams he's played for that just trying to change his style it's going to be fascinating it's amazing what happens when you embrace this type of player
Starting point is 00:58:29 You might win back-to-back cups. This dude's the Finnish Phil Kessel. Right, right. Let him be the scorer. He clearly doesn't want to play the other way. Evgeny Malekin looked like he liked Phil Kessel for exactly two days, and it was the two days they won the Stanley Cup. But look how they played.
Starting point is 00:58:47 Look how they played together, and look how everything worked out. Ben Bishop has also agreed to waive his no-movement clause in order for the Stars to protect other players. I think who was the other goalie in Dallas? didn't even look that up i meant to um yeah maybe it is uh and you know it's i kind of have to say if your teammate even if you make a pile of money and it's not unlikely you'll be um unlikely you'll be selected if you're a guy that does this i guess it's hudobin um at yeah 3.333 million i think that's a pretty like that's a guy i'm taking out to dinner oh yeah you know
Starting point is 00:59:25 what i mean that's a cool thing to do because you're talking about operating potentially uprooting your entire family and ben bishop had the right to to do what he wanted also like hudobin wasn't very good last year at least his numbers weren't but i would i would not put too much stock into that like there are a few teams who i think would be justified in looking at last season and going yeah let's we're just gonna kind of forget that happened and dallas is one of them right i think they're one of them right so um and then yeah and then from there um i do want to quickly mention too that uh uh he ben bishop was on the ir at the end of last season and so is radulov i wonder if they're both going to be ready to be back even at the end of beginning of
Starting point is 01:00:11 next season too right like if you're seattle you know maybe you do take a chance on ben bishop because what the heck he's been pretty good everywhere he's gone uh and he's a good veteran presence a couple years left it's a little expensive but the injury would would kind of spook me i think yeah but if you're planning on flipping goalies that you know worrying about whether he's going to be good to go that could be someone else's problem right but you may not be able to trade him if somebody else has the same worry you do nah you'll be you'll find someone called jim benning all right let's get to the press conference call ken holland bro it's that was the first thing i was gonna say and it's not even i think it might be a good idea
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Starting point is 01:01:57 Within the first... Okay, this is full spoilers. If you don't want the Fast 9 spoiled, turn it off, this podcast. Are you worried about spoilers for Fast 9? It's got a deep plot. You'll never see the ending coming. Tell me about Land Before Time, but with cars.
Starting point is 01:02:12 within the first 10 minutes uh there's a scene where a car jumps off of a mountain and a plane comes and catches the car and flies it away so that the person in the car doesn't die the premise of the movie is that is that john cena is vin diesel's brother which we should dissect whether that is believable or not just on a hey do they even look the same they are large so they're both bulky tough guys but like their faces don't really look the same anyway so they're brothers uh john cena had had helped his his dad fix a car when they were kids uh his dad was a race car driver and he he wanted his dad wanted to throw the race so then john cena tinkered with the engine and then the dad ended up dying in that race so vin diesel blames his brother for his dad's death all
Starting point is 01:03:04 this time and then now they meet again out in the spy world where they're both trying to catch this device and they're both trying to get this device and john cena gets most uh the first piece of this device so then vin diesel's chasing down john cena all this movie and then it comes to this conclusion where uh vin diesel's team has these giant magnets and these manics they've attached them to the cars so that they can they can stop john cena's side from transporting the device to the station to i don't know if it was to blow up earth or what it was but they're they got the device out of these giant tanks because they had these magnets attached to their like subarus that can just attract the tanks to the cars and then that's their device and then um while this is all
Starting point is 01:03:47 happening the other part of the of the device is connecting to a satellite in space so they send tyrese and ludicrous to space to go to go destroy the satellite so they hold on tyrese and ludicrous have to go to space yeah yeah so what are you gonna do go to space on your own tyrese yell all the way up he did he complained and yelled the entire way because that's what tyrese does in the tyrese has like five scenes in the movie and in every scene he's just saying some wacky shit you know like that's his role in the movie now so so he's the one line guy for sure literally that's his role in the movie he comes in he says a line he gets a little bit of a laugh and then he's out so i'm too beautiful for this he references that he was a model or something yeah so there there's
Starting point is 01:04:30 two pieces of the device john uh vin diesel's on earth trying to get half the device from john cena's camp uh vin diesel and i'm sorry vin diesel tyrese and ludicrous are going to space to try and knock out the satellite so it can't connect to the device they hook up rocket ships to a pontiac i think it's like sunfire and they they fly the sunfire to the edge of orbit and then they launch the rocket ships off of the sunfire so the car drives into space so then Tyrese and Ludacris are now in space in this car, and they crash into the satellite to destroy it.
Starting point is 01:05:04 So that part of the storyline is taken care of. They destroyed the satellite. Are they dead? But now it's like, whoa, they're trapped in space. So they were floating up there for like, I don't know, a couple days or something, and then they run into like the International Space Station, and the International Space Station guys are like, what is that?
Starting point is 01:05:19 Is that a Pontiac? And then Tyrese and Ludacris are like, hey, help us! So then they hop over the International Space Station and eventually get back to Earth. by the end of the movie so then back to the back to the other storyline where Vin Diesel's trying to fight his brother Jacob and get back half of the device Jacob Diesel Jacob I forget his last name so so Jacob and and Dom are fighting Toretto Toretto yes Jacob Toretto Dom Toretto so they're they're fighting and then eventually Jacob he gets turned on by the guys he's working for so like the
Starting point is 01:05:53 super evil guys his name was like auto i think he was he was the one who hired jacob to go get half of that is but he gets turned on auto tries to kill jacob so then jacob he after he's falling off of a car he's falling off of the tanker vin diesel swerves and pushes a car to save uh john cena from falling off of the car he catches him with a car and then so john cena lives and he hops in one of vin diesel's car and they look at each other they don't say anything and they know they're on the same team now why now now jacob because they're family so now the brothers are back and family is the only thing that matters and family is together and they destroy uh the tankers he uh vin diesel ends up getting under one of the tankers and he flips the tank off of
Starting point is 01:06:41 a mountain and he rolls out in time so he gets under the front of the wheels and he rolls out of the car and that flips the tanker off of a mountain and then and then there was a super uh super super extra villain she's auto's boss she was flying a drone plane that was going to shoot down vin diesel but then he flipped the tanker into the drone plane at the same time off of the mountain so he flips the car flips the tanker hits the plane everything destroys he saves the world and then that's how the movie ends and then they go back and they have a barbecue uh where they oh my god and vin diesel's with his son and then he sends so jacob he doesn't come he he sends him off with a car and he says a lot of people are going to be chasing after you now jacob
Starting point is 01:07:29 so then jacob drives away and that is what happened at fast nine and it was incredible it is a roller coaster of a movie they do flashbacks but they don't tell you that the flashback is just happening you just got to know like oh this is little john cena now and this is what i'm watching and it's it's a roller coaster of a ride i highly recommend you guys see it very important question well after listen to that i know precisely zero percent more about the movie it's a very important question john cena is a wrestler in a movie does he put one of his finishing moves on a character in the movie what's his finishing he does do some fighting but he doesn't do the finishing his finishing he doesn't do the stfu or the no no he doesn't do
Starting point is 01:08:14 any of that boom yeah no oh you gotta if you're hulk hogan in a movie you gotta do the leg drop or like stone cold's gotta do the stunner do you guys have any questions about fast night now that you know the entire questions about yes can you explain that again it's a roller coaster oh i just want you to imagine if you think your idea is stupid remember that this plot exists if you think your tv show idea is stupid remember there's an extreme mini putt show on tv right now hey steph corey does a great job with that if you think your tv idea is stupid remember there's an extreme lego building competition show on tv right now you can do it you can do it that's how i went in the show on a positive note you can pierre thinks you can
Starting point is 01:09:06 because Kulikin went to space and he hit the international space station and he saved the world with John Cena and that's Ellis's wonderful play thank you for that it wasn't Tavares's so we've got we've got a great uh we've got a great weekend ahead can't wait to see these lists can't wait to see the draft uh or the draft list I guess it's gonna be a lot of fun gonna be a lot of fun so what's with is anything happening this weekend other than like the lists have to be submitted uh probably um within the next like 24 hours or so we're gonna get burned by a bunch of trades are gonna happen but it has to be right yeah this is a lot you got they got 24 hours to make every trade before the roster freeze and then hopefully by sunday we all know all the lists
Starting point is 01:09:53 because they all leaked and that'd be awesome and then i say prepare for wednesday ready okay so monday we'll be here and by the way we do need to do an expansion draft do we not like where we pick our team probably Monday yes I was going to say well Adam there is going to be a stream a live stream
Starting point is 01:10:14 I hope it's watch rounds 2-7 with Steve Dangle I hurt my feelings of the NHL 8 hour stream haven't heard of that guy either haven't heard of that one haven't heard of him
Starting point is 01:10:30 haven't heard of this guy guarantee you there would be a bunch of people on the stream like i know that guy and it's the fifth round 28th pick i know he is yeah let's put some respect on him he's an mhl all-star dick all right um so yeah monday we'll do our big expansion draft show everybody do their expansion draft before monday that includes you and steve and jesse and i will do it too and we'll reveal our teams on monday also uh i forgot to do this at the top but thank you everybody after we mentioned the we had jerseys on sale at the start of last episode it went up at like 8 p.m and by like 9 p.m or like a 10 or something they were all sold out so we get to we get to start printing those the first edition dangle navy jerseys uh at some point we
Starting point is 01:11:18 will do a second edition but that's not anytime soon so we'll see when that comes up but yeah now it's starting the uh getting the hand getting the jerseys into everybody's hands it's very exciting and thank you for uh first sellout of the first edition thank you for being great we love you and we'll see you soon the steve dangle podcast follow the guys on twitter at steve underscore dangle at adam w y l d e and at jesse blake connection complete

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