The Steve Dangle Podcast - It Was 4-1 | May 24, 2021

Episode Date: May 24, 2021

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, the Winnipeg Jets take a 3-0 lead over the Edmonton Oilers (00:00), the Toronto Maple Leafs tie the series 1-1 with Montreal Canadiens (19:00), Marc Bergevin calls for a coach's challenge (29:00), the Avalanche knock-off the St. Louis Blues (49:00), Nashville ties up the series against the Hurricanes (54:00), is Evgeny Kuznetsov gone from Washington (58:00), Canucks fans protest outside of Rogers Arena (1:13:00), the Dream Gap Tour kicks off today (1:29:30), and EuroVision's drug scandal (1:31:00), and favourite video games (1:35:00). Originally aired: May 24, 2021 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/_GHopzsFtY4 Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp Visit this episode's sponsors: https://www.Manscaped.com https://www.betterhelp.com/sdp https://www.betmgm.com/dangle Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

the steve dangle podcast with your host steve dangle adam wild and jesse blake holiday monday in canada normal monday in the states welcome back it's only been two days since our last show and it'll only be two more days till our next one how about that like the challenge of can adam wild swallow fast enough for the intro to finish will he finish his bite by the time the song is done what's in your rap i had time for turkey cheese mayo and mustard it was wow that's a lot of random things i know i know i didn't really have much time to put much else in a good and sliced tomatoes or put some nice fresh lettuce on that for a nice crunch had to run downstairs because i was late my turn to be late well yeah um hey uh lots to get to can

we start off with the fact that the Oilers blew a 4-1 lead last night you know let's start there I thought it was I thought it was pretty interesting I mean a lot of people were relishing in it but a lot of Leaf fans are like I saw were like you know what we get it and you're about to have you're about to have a rough week you don't ever get over it no they don't have a series they don't get over it the worst it it makes it so that no lead ever feels safe again ever like the Leafs could be at least we're up three with like two minutes to go against the Habs and I was like well okay wait okay I think I'll be I think we'll be good when we get to about 70 seconds left right 70 seconds left because then it'll be hard to they can they might get two but they won't get

free you never know you never know it makes it so no leaf ever or no lead ever feels safe again my initial takeaways from the game were that the Oilers dominated those first two periods I think like when it was um when it's 3-1 on the uh Cassian goal the shots were like 30 to 14 I think and then just you go to the the middle of the third and they're just running and gutting And then Josh Archibald takes the damn penalty and that turns the game. And it's a dumb penalty, like not even a dumb penalty, genuinely stupid. You didn't need to do that at all. He's a fourth line player.

He's one of the oldest guys. He's 28 and he's like their veteran presence. And like I took from that, I'm like, OK, who's exactly is like who the leaders on this Oilers team when this happens, when a fourth liner takes a dumb ass penalty and causes your team to a goal directly caused from that? who are the leaders who are going to calm this down because it's not mcdavid because he's the captain but he hasn't proven to be a leader in the locker room and then who are the guys do you guys think mcdavid has been a great leader of this team no i'll tell you what this is he's

been a great goal scorer he's the best he's literally the best player at scoring goals in the entire world he's in the highest league of hockey in the world but he's not leading this team because there are these collapses and the veteran presence on the Oilers are these guys or it's like who we're talking about Chris Russell like that those are those are your leaders well no he can't fall it's not it's not dry so how about Mike Smith well and here's so this is Mike Smith I'm gonna bring up okay so every goal that happened on Mike Smith was either a terrible rebound or it went over his glove the three goals that Winnipeg scored were the exact same spot in the net it was a top corner past his glove i'll tell you i'll tell you

what this is by the way this is jesse blake um letting out a lifetime of frustration he is sick of tall guys getting picked on and and when he saw logan stanley get hit by josh archibald he said this is just another alleged short king taken down another tall tree and and he didn't appreciate it and you know what jesse i get it i i gotta say um for me uh mike smith you knew it was gonna come you knew it was happening eventually i i'm sorry guys but yeah yeah you just picked the exact same spot he picked earlier in the game because mike doesn't have it this is mike smith's drill he it's yo can i read a shakespeare quote because this reminded me of something from mcbeth do you guys remember mcbeth of course it did sure okay all right all

right so you're ready for this often oftentimes to win us to our harm the instruments of darkness tell us truths win us with the honest trifles only to betray us in deepest consequence and what that means is sometimes that like there's like a little breadcrumb thing happening oh i can win this game i can win this game oh look at that i beat the canucks oh look at that i beat the flips oh that's great and then oh we beat the sense for like four games ago that's great and then when it matters when it matters mike smith except for that one run with the coyotes is going to go back to being mike smith and he had a great year this year guys he's 39 years old he's going to start the second game of a back-to-back tonight and frankly can i get a

fucking save here please no you can't finally get mcdavid you finally get dry saddle they're both on the score sheet and mike smith four to one and i mean i know nobody in the nhl and no nhl commentator ever wants to blame a goalie i get it but come on guys this is this is where this is where edmonton needs to go out and get a goalie this is where ken holland in at the trade deadline saying um uh we you can't be all in every year this is where it comes back to haunt you that so i was i was having a twitter back and forth about that so part of me is like well maybe he was right but the other part of me is in in berkshire alluded to this you looked at mcdavid and dry saddle finished first and second in scoring dry saddle was second by like 10 points

mcdavid was first by like 30 um and as an organization by not bolstering the team around them you looked at that you looked at their accomplishments this season and you said not enough you looked at that and you said it's not important now the argument i was having is well what what are they going to do they're going to give up you know young prospects and they're going to give up picks at the deadline well okay there's an argument to be made that buying at the deadline was not the thing for the oilers uh two years in a row because buying at the deadline you're going to overpay is this the year to really go for it but i i just feel like the salary cap is being used as an excuse for ken holland the trade deadline is being an excuse he didn't just get

there and challenges have been put in his way absolutely obviously the pandemic but with the flat cap and everything but every team has had to deal with this and most teams have found really really interesting ways of getting around their salary cap problems you know we we looked at the blues we looked at who didn't do very well in the playoffs obviously um but we looked at the the lightning the leafs have done very interesting things lots of teams have done very interesting things the rangers um you know and to varying degrees of success but for several years to say i mean the the devils just said to gusev they're like hey do you want to play here anymore and he goes no and now he doesn't play there anymore that's i don't know there's a little bit of

ingenuity there hey what if we just didn't pay you i agree i'm down with that well the great thing about ken holland is that this offseason he's gonna i think the oilers are gonna be a really good team next year because on each of their forward groups and each of their defensive group half the salary isn't coming back like they have 24 they have 24 locked up in the defense 12 million comes back next year it's like 50 million in the forwards 25 comes back next season like he is gonna have so much freedom this offseason to build a great team against mcdavid and dry so because this team that they have right now isn't it no my my frustration here is is like first off the amount of oilers fans in my dms when i woke up this morning going i know you guys are gonna

rip the oilers but remember they got 22 million in cap space this offseason so you've already given up yeah they played it has mcdavid has a top 10 season all time in the nhl and you guys are already talking about next season are you kidding me they can win eight one tonight they could you should probably you should probably give up when it's three nothing well we'll see do you want them to have some faith in this i don't this is the best season since mario lemieux and we're going you know what that and i love berkshire's take on it too was like, yeah, I'll just sign Chase on. It'll be great. They tried to get Markstrom this off season. That means that they were willing to go six over six. Markstrom chose Calgary, his loss.

But if Edmonton chooses, if he chooses Edmonton, my question is, where's that 6 million going? Meaning like Edmonton would have had to find a way out of the cap situation they're in. So if you could have signed Markstrom, why didn't you go get someone else? Why is your backup? again I know Koskinen is that deal is that deal and I know Mike Smith's been good for them but I just there has always been a question about goaltending with this team all season long no matter what you tell me you cannot tell me that you're relying and riding on a 39 year old goaltender who has a history of being one of the streakiest goalies of all time unbeatable and then cannot stop a beach ball you know that with Mike Smith he's got two modes yeah he's

really got two modes this is his history and I just you know to put the whole game in his feet's unfair but they needed to save last night they needed to save last night and Mike Smith couldn't give it to them they handed Mike Smith the win and he lost it and I put it squarely on him and the Oilers team defense and also a great shot from Ehlers and and I do want to shift the conversation just a little bit boys because what I watched I watched both TSN and Sportsnet this morning talking about this game and the only thing anybody talked about was Eddie Edmonton perspective no one said hey look at these fucking jets man how about these goddamn jet and they're winning games are you really i'm so impressed with them i'm so impressed with them because i was i was

looking at the way that they won and i'm like you know what was i wrong about the jets or was i wrong and then i'm like you know what they're winning games the exact way i described they would they're winning games like the 2013 leafs did they got caved in last night they did but they got wicked finishers they got killers out there assassins they don't need the puck for very long killers out there and they got a great goalie and the fact of the matter is they're not going to win a ton of games where they surrender four but they did they did they how many how many periods out of nine uh 10 or did they have another overtime game yeah no sorry there's been two yeah game two was ot so 10 to 10 periods how many periods out of the 10 did the jets genuinely

outplay the oilers yeah did they how many periods have they won it's less than half i tell you that and that might be being kind but they're winning games the way they're winning games the way they have all season so maybe maybe we just gotta do better with our analysis of winnipeg jet's flavor of hockey because it's it doesn't look good it doesn't look pretty but holy shit they go out there and they win have they not taken advantage of the oilers weaknesses yes and and it's like strategically you can see them doing it they win games the way they have to and you know looking at our playoff predictions i was talking about um like i looked at nashville and i go okay carolina is going to beat them but i gave credit to nashville's playoff experience and i and i

looked around the league and there were there were some teams that i just didn't favor but they have some experience this jets team's got a big old bunch of playoff experience good and bad they've at least been through it the oilers i mean they had what four games in the play-in last year and then there's kind of this gap from 2017 where they looked poised to do something special and they've never recaptured it never uh i don't know i don't know i what a tortured if they were to lose tonight what a tortured way to go into the offseason you looked so good and this is or winnipeg the oilers okay because you switched again because we are trying to go for the jets i do that i do that's okay that's okay but it would be a tortured way to go into

the off season because i'd be like are the jets are they better than us really after that whole season that we went through after we kicked their ass kicked their what did mcdavid have 21 points in nine games come on yeah and you can even a team with dry silent mcdavid get goalied you can absolutely well which is why they need to solve that problem they need to solve that problem but anyway sorry go ahead go ahead i just i feel this is me feeling sick for oilers fans but uh jesse pollock has been one of my favorite follows throughout all this just losing his shit yo all jets fans they they look like they're having a great time on twitter i gotta say don't they always they're always having a good time no no a lot of what i've seen this season is

frustration with this team and i don't think very many fans expected anything and so they're just loving the ride a lot of the jets it worries me because of how they played to end the season like their last month of the season was not great and they come and they come and they get a matchup with the Oilers where it seems just like uh the way they play just leads into the Oilers weaknesses you know it's just it's this game it's this run and gun game that the Oilers are trying to play but the Jets can keep up with it and can keep scoring at whim because the Oilers can't stop anything and it's just it's not it's not the right strategy for them to win and the Jets have gotten so lucky I don't know if it's luck but this matchup is just so perfect for them

that i don't i don't know is this the true jets team or is it the team that we saw for four weeks to end the season you know so like i think whoever faces them next round it was montreal toronto it's probably gonna be toronto but like i'm gonna pick them as the favorites because like i don't one the one series versus a team that you match up perfectly against isn't gonna change my opinion on your entire season i wouldn't know i wouldn't think that they matched up perfectly though because the Jets defense has been suspect for a while, right? It's been Connor. Yeah, but they've got two years now where we've been like,

ah, this defense sucks though. Connor Hellebuck. Yeah, that's the defense. That's the defense. Yeah, you're right. It's in there. And then when you're playing these four or five games or the two nothing games, both of them, the Jets can keep up.

And it's just the Oilers, they just don't have it versus team. And yeah, so I don't know about the next round, but the Jets look great. There have been four instances ever, by the way, of a team coming back from three games down. There was the 1942 Leafs. I believe it was the 1975 was at the Islanders over the Penguins. 2010, the Flyers came back against the Bruins.

Next season, the Bruins came back and slaughtered them on route to the Stanley Cup. And 2014, I forgot about this. The Sharks were up three games to none on the Kings. kings come back beat them and win the stanley cup yes and that was the i think the chart san jose should have won that year oh good god yes that was their year um i do want to say uh i do want to say it would make one hell of a story if the others come back here what a what a great story that'd be so i do hope they win tonight because i want some interest you know jesse's jesse's

gonna get clipped something fierce if mcdavid goes into god mode and they end up winning okay there is also a really great uh screenshot making the rounds today on twitter of nick and the bud light can that uh walks around in the uh in the arena like i guess signaling each other after he scored to make it two to one i think i would love to know who it is inside the bud light can also that was eeler's first game yes what a what a group of it's it's you know we talked about how the jets looked horrible um but like it wasn't just they were playing bad hockey they looked like they didn't like hockey and they looked like they didn't like each other no they don't like hockey they didn't like being a jet

and they didn't like each other how do you not love every person around you right now if you're a member of the winnipeg jets you gotta be i mean they're gonna be out for blood you gotta think if they have any leadership in that room at all they're gonna be out for blood to end this in four uh i don't think there will be too many guys sitting fat and happy um boy boy boy boy i don't know how the oilers come back from this maybe they do but great head coach too he deserves for this well jesse that is a that's a point of contention even on jet's twitter yeah you know like yeah yeah well and like supposedly one of the things he said for game two was because dubois and ehlers were out game one oh my god and the oilers still lost um and he didn't bring ehlers

back for game two and i think the quote was something along the lines of he didn't want to bring dubois and ehlers back at the same time which is some galaxy brain shit i've never heard my entire life right but haven't we always questioned maurice's comments in the media you know like he's always saying something and i don't know if it reflects what's happening in the locker room if he always takes attention on to himself to help his boys you know he does do that and the second the stanley cup playoffs begin uh you just change coach's job title to big bunch of liars it's so true all they do is they get on the mic and they say a bunch of untrue shits to throw as many people off as possible was it um was it toronto who said uh

we didn't want to tell montreal we're out for blood because then we're then we're setting up for the uh the refs no i think what what sheldon keith said was uh montreal said that they were out to make it a war so toronto has countered that by saying we're going to play as clean as possible which we actually are going to get to in the league segment coming up but i think that sets us up perfectly that was just that's the fucking coaches lying about everything it's just they just say whatever narrative they want to perpetuate in the media to trick their teams into winning and coaching is just really good at manipulation by the way that's all yeah oh yeah keith's doing a good job of it in these playoffs babcock never did that he was always just short

answer guy he played coy with injuries and everything but like keith is uh oh no yeah we don't care who's in the lineup yeah nope i'm not going to do line matching not afraid of them what do you think about cole caulfield well i don't like yeah i'm not going to do line matching and then first line of the game he sends out wayne simmons to line match yeah that was well that was game two though and that but i thought to start the game though you literally line match so i i guess we're here now yeah i suppose so let's go get into the leafs let's do it so i i i thought that was some intimidation and you know what I was trying to convey with Corey Perry heading into this series is I just remember the last game of the season I saw him out with the Jack

Hambley goes all night all night and that was the message I thought was sending Wayne Simmons out there hey hey Ben we've had a chance to look at the replay all night all night baby better hey you see me start my shift yours better be ending all night all night yeah and they did get the first one not gonna lie i was a little nervous but uh it was i mean from the second spezza tied it it was a all leaf game so i what i want to talk about there's a couple of things with that game because it's been broken down ad nauseum but by this point but i think there's a couple things that we can push forward to tonight first off um with regards to you know where they stand what did you like about what you saw after the spezza goal because first off spezza goal was

great that he intercepted a pass from his own teammate or to his own teammate i thought that's funny but it was a jason's it was a vintage jason spencer shot it was beautiful just after that montreal not only plays a little on its heels there are and i kept tweeting this and i kept getting lit the fuck up i'm like toronto better watch out the next call is going against them and i did it three times after that wrong every time because there was four penalties so there's that there's i want to talk about the four penalties thing and then i want to talk about dominic Ducharme but let's talk about four penalties in a row in the second period a struggling Leafs power play when you look at the penalties do any of them look illegitimate to you no not one and

the only arguments there is and to Habs fans credit this is what I saw most Habs fans saying they didn't have a problem necessarily with the four or five whatever it was straight penalties the sixth one was paul byron with 30 seconds left let's not include that so let's say five straight penalties the only problem i saw with that is the leafs don't get one in the middle of all that it wasn't that the habs weren't legit they were what will go uh against you every time is the complaining and they did a lot of complaining brendan gallagher cross-checked TJ Brody in the head and went literally me. You can see him me.

Yes. You, you cross checked the guy in the head. Now, a lot of people, Steve saw TJ Brody's butt end of a stick hit Brendan Gallagher in the mouth right after that. You're right.

You're right. You'll have to take that up with the official. That one, that one, it, it, when you go, well,

what about this? What about that? What about that? Yes, it is. What about ism? But I mean, it's not,

I mean, it's the most illegitimate thing in the world. And normally what we've been taught in hockey is if you retaliate, you're the one who takes the penalty. But in this case, it was the first guy. It was the first hit that, that like in terms of galley hit Brody first, uh, it's, it's, if the ref lets it go, here's, here's how I think refs call it. if a player does something and there's no call and then you do something like a few seconds later not only did you do something but you did it because of the ref and the ref's like what do you well like what is this you're not you're not liking how i called the game it's like arguing balls and strikes with an ump right so that's the way i look at it but when it's immediate retaliation to a player cross checking you in the head you maybe look at it as defending yourself

right but then it should probably i'm sure there's habits fans screaming right now it should probably be both of you off but the cross check in the head is like it's still it's the trump card right so they're often if they got to call one they're going to call the worst one the leckanen one was a slash on simmons that took away a scoring chance uh during a flurry in front and the ref was standing right in front of it he didn't miss it and and again you're talking about fourth line versus fourth line you got leckanen and you got simmons who's been in the league forever it's not gonna go your way artery it's not gonna go your way cock and yemi had something to say to the official after breaking his stick during a cross check i the evidence is

in both your hands man i if the stick hadn't broken it's not a penalty i agree i agree and that maybe that's what he's saying but like it did it did bro um i don't remember the fourth um i do know there was the uh weber very blatant call on engvall in the third he was fined for by the way five thousand dollars was that the no that was the simmons sorry that was the simmons my apologies there was there were so many things at the end of that game as well i was shocked that was the only fine because uh people were were posting it the next day in the final 20 seconds or so whatever it was simmons goes up to charotte and he doesn't actually do anything but edmondson comes over to him after i think simmons had slashed him to be fair but edmondson cross-checked

him in the head there's been a lot of those this year especially in the canadian division and i i can't believe weber was the only one who got any supplemental discipline and probably not a good idea for the league league-wide on any team to allow cross-checks to the head regularly uh yeah it's it's it's not good that there have been so many that i've noticed you know what i mean and it was the the standard set earlier this season was chase on cross check jimmy vc in the head during a leaf soilers game and that was a game that was over and there was no need for it so like what what do you call that then just because it wasn't after the after the final horn the game is over so i didn't like it but the the are you asking them to be consistent come on

know well there is that come on i mean the habs did not do a good job of not being exactly what the leafs have probably told officials they are and you the leafs went up to one they got their first lead of the series and they fell apart the the shenanigans went up tenfold the habs fell apart the habs fell apart and the the after the whistle shenanigans went up tenfold and it's what cost them it's what cost them do you think they thought that that was the only way they were going to beat the leafs because they wouldn't be able to outscore them so they gotta try and out muscle them somehow and it just failed as a tactic i mean from the opening whistle of game one you could tell the the plan was to out muscle them but game one was obviously a pretty unique

animal um i don't i don't know why they would go to that when you won game one you know what i mean like you're you don't you don't need it doesn't have to be the after the whistle stuff let them know you're there you know you're in a war exhaust them and everything but what's with the stick work stick work's gonna get you every time and the habs got to be smarter with their stick in game three they gotta be you're not gonna get away with that you're not gonna get away with that i i so i mean i i think we're gonna see a tighter called game tonight i'm sure the nhl called the officials and said uh or whoever's officiating said call an even game tonight because there have been several complaints i believe the canes somebody else uh you know blues you know and and and with you know

i understand what rod brendamore when he was saying and don't let's not get into the cane series yet but i understand what rod brought that what rod brindamore was saying which is how is it that we had five in a row and they didn't have any well that's entirely possible but unfortunately the way the game has been called to this point that's made it impossible which is why it seems so ridiculous but if you were calling the game to the rules which is what they should do you could easily see how a team could get five penalties in a row and maybe to knock it the fuck off this is chicken this is chickens coming home to roost though because remember in the immediate aftermath of the tim peel even up call saga i remember it was jeff merrick on 31 thoughts

he's like you watch the officials are going to be calling it to the rule book if you're a foot in front of the red line and you ice it they're going to call that they're going to call everything yeah merrick was being very dramatic about it he was he was but like i he was hearing stuff i guess I mean, it's not like I don't speak to any NHL officials or whatever, but I believe his brother is a high-level referee, so he has some inside info for sure. Oh, you know what? Brother-in-law.

Brother-in-law, something like that, yeah. Yeah, I remember hearing something about that. But there was nothing really. And now it's the playoffs, so you don't like even-up calls. Got it. Heard you loud and clear. Don't worry, you won't get any from us. and now they're not there and if if the leafs it'll be interesting to see what happens tonight

because if they're not calling even up calls that favors the leafs it does you would think so i mean they're i don't feel guilty saying this they're better like the leafs are better you know it's just if you're able to get away with the extracurricular stuff the Habs have a have a better shot the Habs are not so bad that the Leafs are going to dominate them especially without John Tavares but they have a better shot now let's talk let's talk about uh the coach's challenge and a couple other things that had to do with Dominic Ducharme you mean Mark Bergevin's walkie-talkie right so if so here's here's what happened if you missed it um there was a goal that was clearly a goal Rasmus Sandin from the point a slap shot which we haven't

seen from an nhl defenseman for the toronto maple leafs in years uh nice to see a slap shot i think brian one timer last one one timer from the point like since when it was awesome it was great what a new weapon how about this sanding guy but the interesting thing about it was you could see mark bergevin from the press box say joe thornton interfered you could see him pointing and his air going wild because he's got a lot of it now he does um uh you could see him pointing at the screen going there, there, there. Now, when you look at the, the replay, when you first look at it again, you're instantly looking for it. Well, oh man, his stick, where did his stick interfere? What's Bergevin talking about? And you can, if you only focus on Joe Thornton, see the stick does

sort of tap carry price. However, by the time the stick taps carry price, the puck's already in the net. And so this is where, this is where I'm, if I'm Dominic Ducharme, I'm pissed off because if my boss calls me and it makes me make a call like that i'm already down was it two nothing or three to one sorry two to one or three to one at that goal two to one goal made it three one yes that goal made it three one i'm already down three to one and you want me to risk it on an iffy call after they just scored on us on the power play right and remember that it's called the it's not called the gm's challenge called the coach's challenge so if you're gonna push the coach to do this then it goes it falls to the coach a lot of people like well that's bergevin's call it's

bergevin's call no it's dom ducharme's call if dominic ducharme says no i'm not challenging that what's mark bergevin gonna do well who's on the ice all right and and and here's the thing though so i saw some people say well hey just because bergevin was there and he was freaking out at the tv does not mean that he was telling ducharme to do that well what was the guy in the walkie talkie doing ordering pizza all right i didn't i didn't like that dynamic of hey your boss is calling you in the middle of your job on a walkie talkie to tell you to do something what is duchamp supposed to do in that moment his gm screwed him i don't think anything about this is typical because the the way i was talking about it during the stream is i was like oh he's probably

walkie-talkying like the guys in the back but i'm like wait a sec we're in a pandemic i don't know if there are guys in the back like if they have like some sort of houston astros war room back there i think it and and burrows was on this all game so like do they have a direct line to the bench sure i guess so yeah 100 we saw it there's tv evidence of it why wouldn't you and that shouldn't be that shouldn't be the case in terms of making decisions on the ice as a coach like imagine he told them like put a put a player on the ice like that's it's it's schemey you know you should watch the limit that's a good point yeah here's if i'm dominic du charme two things after the game number one i have a ripping call with mark bergevin oh yeah i tell him i'm never

doing it again on the phone you don't want to have that call in person he's very large he is very large number two it shows me that my own general manager doesn't have the faith in me to make the call myself which freaks me out the only reason dominic ducharme would have said yes to something like this is that he is an interim coach i know he's the new coach but let's be honest mark bergevin's well within his rights after this season to go yeah see you we're getting budro we're getting tortorella we're getting whoever we want it's the montreal canadians they'll do whatever they want to win oh give me torts in montreal i'll be great so what i'm saying here is i would love torts with the with the french media that'd be amazing what i'm saying is

um uh mark bergevin showed that he has no faith in his coach and you know what with the way dominic ducharme and i'm going to shift this here the way dominic ducharme has deployed his players and who he's dressed i wouldn't have a whole lot of faith in him either now let's let's let's just talk about cole caulfield for a second yep okay not dressed in the games how many playing tonight wow shocking cole caulfield who had how many points in 10 games guys five two of those were in overtime though and there is no three on three in the playoffs all right so it that does make it tough and when you have such a small sample size you mean playing under pressure and scoring goals makes it tough to play under pressure to score goals in the playoffs you think you think cole

Caulfield should have been in the first two games. Cocky Niami and Caulfield and Romanoff. Are they out of their minds? These are the three best young players, and this is the opportunity. You don't need to win the cup this year. You just need to beat the fucking Leafs. All you got to do is beat the Leafs.

Who's your core going forward? Caulfield, Cocky Niami, Suzuki, Romanoff. These are your young guys. Romanoff. Romanoff. Romanoff. These are your guys. This is the experience they need.

what's what's dom du charme doing when i was talking to angles he was basically saying like listen they're all gonna get in but they're all gonna get in now wait wait though wait though it's game one and two that means something and there's a lot of tygos of the veteran shit going on there the other thing and this i actually i do like the logic here cole caulfield making his playoff debut at home where you have a better uh where you have an easier time controlling the matchup so he's more nervous at home and there will be montreal canadians fans in attendance today by the way that was just announced apparently there has that's i thought it was supposed to be the 28th but from what i just read on twitter there might be actually canadians fans there

tonight oh wow are you sure i'll check it again but that's my understanding that's the first i heard of that anyway so and okay this is probably an unpopular opinion i do think cole caulfield is going to be great that's not the unpopular part um he's clearly got excellent finishing power but for the most part watching him in the what was it two or three games that he played against the leafs towards the end of the season he wasn't otherworldly and he's not better than most than than some of the guys that they played though i will tell you that yeah i will tell you that you'll tell me he's not better than than all the guys on the team or like like you're telling me he couldn't be better than somebody else on the team who's coming out of the lineup what are what's

the swap oh god they're not guys this is the issue like it's got to be like leckanen or something who's got i want to say like is he a penalty killer on that team they they like leckanen right so caulfield is going from university hockey and pandemic university hockey like part of me goes how much does this matter i wonder so he's going from university hockey then he's got to get used to the jump up to nhl hockey and then he's got to get used to the jump up to nhl playoff hockey that's a lot okay then fine explain cock and yemi that one is a little bit more difficult i mean he was looking pretty good in game one when eric stall helped set up uh josh anderson for the first goal who's he josh anderson oh sorry eric stall did i thought i

said stall okay okay sorry eric stall uh sets up the josh anderson goal um but i mean part of the i think the only reason cockney emmy was in game two was uh jake evans got hurt i think the plan was always to have the young guys play game three in Montreal I haven't heard that I do think but what kind of plan is that they're not as well trusted defensively and at home you go okay they have better skill and I think I'm a smart enough coach that I can protect these guys and I can put them in a position to succeed and you're telling me Romanov's not good enough to make the top six Romanov is confusing and let's let's put this out there you want to confuse this even further and this is where if I'm Dominic Ducharme I would be worried because I don't think I'm not

really sure I'm just going to come out and say it I think the Montreal Canadiens need to get away from only hiring francophones and and uh and I that's I think Dom Ducharme I think it's this is the perfect example who has been the scariest player on the Montreal Canadiens forward group all series so far game one josh anderson game two nobody okay so if you're gonna but if you're gonna cap it josh anderson still was the best of the forwards i would say in game two man i don't think anyone was good okay well he was was he not a part of the first goal in game two uh i'm trying to remember who assisted on that goal you might be right you might be that was a bad that was one of that was maybe one of two or three bad shifts they had all game the abs really hemmed the leafs

in there the game two goal was uh Kotkin Yemi from Armia and Toffoli okay so what I would say is the player who has looked most dangerous for the Canadians so far if nobody looks dangerous in game two and somebody looks dangerous in game one it's Josh Anderson how much ice time does Josh anderson average guys great question well he starts on the fourth line oh 17 and a half 16 25 that's not enough that's not kidding me he was the best player on the icing the average that's the average and i know that they took four penalties but guys if they've taken four penalties in a row then josh anderson's out there double shifting i was about to say it's the playoffs there's no limit what do you what are you saving him for dom the guy's unbelievable

he's a monster this is what he this is why bergevin signed into a seven-year deal the home ice thing matters i i bet he lets him fly but the playoff thing matters steve yes and i love you and i know you know you know what i'm saying here my frustration isn't with you it's the the idea well you know what we're gonna save him for game three and game four what kind of fucking system is that no adam what it is is me trying it's me trying to give the habs as much credit as possible um and this is the mode i try to get into for the streams i i try to i go okay like i try to look within myself and go what am i not seeing beyond my blue glasses this is a really good hockey team they are not being deployed properly yes yeah it's a very look at the winger depth

they have there it's unbelievable they also this um this uh trying to beat the leafs up and fighting fire with fire i don't know if it's gonna work just because like this team's beat the hell up like the a lot of these guys barely made it in the game one yeah the playoffs gallagher and price price did not look good no in in uh game two um shea weber and dino and you know these guys are hurts these guys are beat up the leafs have their fair share as well but as one does going into the playoffs if you need to be at your toughest to beat the leafs i i got bad news by the way it's uh eric stall is the one who's coming out of the lineup today because he is injured and that's where uh caulfield is going to slot in tatar would usually be the one who comes out

when caulfield comes in but tatar staying in the lineup so yeah eric stall's injured and out that was confusing so tatar was coming out earlier and then they announced it was stall instead so does he get the galchenyuk treatment with the habs where they're like okay you're out of the lineup or you're on our second line who's tatar yeah or is what's top line or second line yes it would be the second line uh winger there you're either a top six player or you're not in the line or we're sitting you for this younger guy who does what you do tatar is not a defensive guy no but i thought he probably had one of i mean how many scoring chances did the habs have it wasn't very many and he definitely had one yep yep i think i i think he's a good

i think that you the reason i said what i said about the francophone coaches thing earlier is i think it severely limits montreal if dom you cannot tell me that dominic ducharme was the best option they had available this offseason i'm not impressed from what i've seen this up they should have kept Claude Julien like honestly what's what's the big difference that they had with Claude other than Marc Bergevin can call Dom Ducharme and say challenge that puck other than that because you know Julien wouldn't have done it other than that what have the Montreal Canadiens shown that's that much different than what they had under Claude Julien after their hot streak to start the season what's different is this a case of they didn't want to make a

decision mid-season because remember Claude Julien was fired in like February end of February right so maybe they didn't want to commit to a guy and they give the assistant to charm the the chance you know the the other thing so angles has said or i don't remember who it was i was speaking to they were basically like listen i get it i get the argument against it but it matters but i can't help but feel like in 2021 there shouldn't be some way around it in terms of like like okay let's say the best coach available is anglo-mcanglophone like he's some dude he doesn't even know how to ask to go to the south bank french exists yeah he's never had a croissant in his life he doesn't know he's from south bend

he's he's never right he always got zero in french class you know we can't get this guy a translator like we can't get put them in french lessons or some like or something or something you know now most coaches don't want to go through that shit hi would you like to be coach of our hockey team yes okay also you have to learn a new language okay well how about i would like to go somewhere where i don't have to do that my question is how does a guy how does um bob hartley or mike keenan go to the KHL and win a championship? There's my question. It's obviously not in their way, right?

So what's going on there? They didn't have any other options, Steve. Nobody was hiring Bob Hartley ever again, and no one's hiring Mike Keenan ever again. But they don't speak the language. What I'm saying is they get past the barrier and succeeded that league. Because it has less to do with the coach and more to do with the perception.

You've got to remember Quebec culture. There's a lot of hardline Quebecers that still think Quebec should be its own country and don't you know have a real I mean the Quebec government is extremely sensitive about there are laws about ever even having English in your sign if you own a store right it's extremely they're protective and I understand being protective of the language but at a certain point do the Canadians want to win or do they you know because I could tell you if the Canadians win with a great head coach like imagine they got like a Barry Trotz and they just smothered every team and smothered their way to a Stanley Cup which

teams have done by the way um do you think anyone cares that barry trotz doesn't speak french it's it's a blind spot i think the three of us will always have yeah yeah i don't know what i don't know what to tell like say the molson family is like hey we need a head coach who can also speak french i don't know what to come back and tell them like no you should just hire the best guy you know like i don't know if they feel like it's important to the culture then i feel like then it should be important right yeah i mean it's a pr move it's that but that's you have to accept that and there have been many many montreal canadians like commentators in montreal in quebec city who've said we should not be doing this anymore i've heard people do it i've heard the

rants and it's it's just it's one of those things where you know it's a small thing but it's a big thing get the last guy these are the montreal canadians who's the last guy incredibly successful franchise who's the last like non-french speaking coach there was randy cunningworth yeah and he was he ran out of town yeah because he didn't do anything to endear himself well and i also like i don't think he's been a head coach since not that is the that is the correct answer randy cunningworth and i don't even think he was he known for or was there was it was in an argos coach there's an argos coach known for wearing like a red coat to every game or something and i think randy cunningworth had the same sort of thing like you didn't see him in habs memorabilia

or something like it was some weird thing he was he like it seemed like with him he actively just was like screw the french thing i'm just here to coach and it's like well no you can't do that you can't you can't be like screw local culture you have to there has to be something to that but i just think listen you i get hiring french canadians for french canadians and i know that there was mountains of talent out there but please don't cut yourself off from getting the right head coach because i don't think dominic ducharme is it i think pk pk suban made himself so popular in part because he couldn't but he tried try yeah just try yeah i think it'd be interesting for them to try like you know what a few years ago we weren't ready

what about now what about now right and and listen guys we're still gonna you know i mean it's it's not like the leafs have been immune to this right there's you know a big controversy they don't have enough ontario kids or they don't have any ontario kids and they don't draft enough ontario from who from who the old guard from don cherry yeah and i i and i assumed yeah but don cherry doesn't say things and then no one agrees with them that's right and then and then this is part of the problem right so i'm sure the quebec equivalent right goes what we need a francophone coach and i'm sure it's not just the entire population of quebec going i disagree no but i agree there's there's a contingent and i just

wonder if enough time has passed and 2021 going into 2022 i wonder if it's a it's just different enough that you can give it a shot i think a team on the upswing like the canadians it'd be a good time yeah so and just two things it has no effect on the guys in the locker room because your players come from every different background they speak all different kinds of languages languages especially in hockey with so many european players and two um what was my second point i forgot my second point that was the main point you know what jesse it was so good it was two points in one so well here last last one little maybe defense for dominic ducharme no we we've seen the difference in the leafs this season and last what a difference being the head coach

for a training camp makes yeah i remember my second point my second point was winning cures everything if you brought in a guy who wasn't who couldn't speak french and then he started winning nobody would care now tell you what dominic ducharme beats the leafs he's your coach next year yeah we spent a little yeah when we'll see what happens tonight um because it really is sort of a ball toss in the air two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th join thousands in toronto for the princess margaret cancer foundation walk challenge yourself friends and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research together we can carry the fire and help create a world free from

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and the caption is, memories from round one. so it's him staring down jordan binnington with the refs trying to keep them separated very good funny right very funny good now that that series is interesting the abs were outscored sorry the abs outscored the blues 20 to 7 they were down a grand total of 7 minutes and 12 seconds the entire series i'm surprised it was any seconds that's uh yeah six of six of their goals by the way were empty netters but that just tells you how to reach the games where you're not going to win a lot of games when your average goals against sorry sorry sorry they outscored

them 20 to 7 and they had six empty net goals in four games yes holy shit yes but you're not going to win games you're not going to win a series if you're averaging five goals against or even four goals against oh my god this wasn't kicking holy shit i know i know yeah well here's the most telling part of this series is tarasenko's quote afterwards you're ready for this yeah he said this is embarrassing always losing in the playoffs the answer is there are no excuses always we don't fight enough we don't fight enough so there's a language barrier there so maybe it does matter not knuckles to the face talking about yeah right i don't think that's the issue man i think it's just that uh the abs are better yep all right yeah yeah way

better and it it doesn't help that your resident tough guy is well you have kyle clifford i don't know how much he played and there's also robert bortuzzo on the back end he got his orbital bone broken by uh tyson jost and that was the main complaint blues had probably justifiable that he got elbowed in the face literally got his face broken and i don't believe there was a call um craig berube coach of the blues said uh the blues back line were uh uh set injuries especially to the blues back line like depth were a factor in the series he said but we're not going to offer that as an excuse um but hey by the way people i didn't know were avalanche brandon saw it i forgot i knew he was and then i forgot that he was and he scored last night so good for him everybody says

i hate brandon sod i don't i i i dislike the trade he was involved with and had no say in um And Nazem Kadri, by the way, have served his first game of the eight-game suspension. We'll be appealing that, but we'll see. Remember Dennis Weidman, he like appealed it and they're like, okay, we'll reduce it to 10. But he already sat out like 16 games, yeah. And you don't get them back.

Yeah, so I don't know how long the appeals process is, but I would imagine having dealt with lawyers myself that it's going to be a long time. And it can be a double appeal. So the first appeal goes to Gary Bettman. And if Kadri still isn't satisfied with Gary Bettman's decision, then he can go to a neutral arbitrator after that. So we could have an extended double appeal.

Also, the St. Louis Blues' complete lack of offense is probably why they lost. Seven goals in four games is trash. Yeah, and Robert Thomas and Ryan O'Reilly led their team in points with three assists each. Like, you're not going to win any games with that. Now, I don't want to spend too, too much time on that series because our timer timelines are a little tight and i would like to move on but it was a sweep

there it wasn't close and uh that ryan o'reilly quote at the beginning of the series where he was like yeah we're just gonna come out and beat him you're not i it's that's a tough one for the blues whose standard has changed right they won the cup so now that's the standard but i think the next uh steps for the avalanche should maybe tell the blues where they are in the pecking order of the league because like what if the Avs take on it's looking like Vegas right now what if they play Vegas and just steamroll them

how bad do you feel like or do you just go no we played a monster they need to rework some things like I don't know Hoffman had a like a decent regular season I don't know if he worked in the playoffs like do you bring back Bozak like are you happy

with all the money you have on defense like there's a lot of questions in St. Louis I'm just saying Petrangelo would have been awfully good on that uh back end he probably probably should have kept um what an what an off season sorry by the way so uh to to what you really do need to move us on from this as quickly as possible guys i'm just throwing that out there okay very quickly it was sod and dennis gilbert for nikita zadorov who's not a very good defenseman even though his hits are very fun and anton lindholm and then they got devon taves for two second rounders tidy tidy tidy work yeah that was a killer trade

unbelievable one of those trades i wish the leafs had made nashville and carolina are tied i am they're tied now i saw a ton of nashville fans in my mentions and on my dms uh let me just say first guys how sick was it to see that crowd yeah great crowd just to see that crowd back in there eric young amongst them our friend of the show eric young was in the crowd for that shout out eric god bless him hi eric um and if you know i mean there's nothing better than nashville's crowd nothing no it makes an impact doesn't it however oh i see the wrestling but let's get into the real numbers here okay you're ready for this i got some staggering statistics for you hit me okay so the only reason carolina loses this game and the only reason that

nashville's even in it is uc sorrows we know that what happened adam did nashville win nashville won but in double overtime and they oh just checking the scoreboard doesn't count yeah no it counts but let's have a look at this we're talking about trends here carolina outshot nashville by 20 so by the second ot the canes outshot the preds 61 to 43 and here's the more fun stat the predators had also blocked 31 shots which means you're close to 90 at that point in five periods of hockey guys carolina got goalied and just barely just did barely they did but i tell you what carolina i listen i still have them going to the final they're in danger of becoming like that team that just can't get over the hump you mean the leafs uh the the the

leafs of the uh just before the the 2004 lockout you know what i mean hey here we are hey we won a round and there we go and hey here we are and we're in round three and there we go and hey here we are kind of like the sharks a little bit the sharks prior to actually lose prior to the final yeah yeah dude the caps prior to the cup they're in a little danger of getting there and and i know you look at the process and you go guys they're the better team okay win all right like that that's the thing about the playoffs the the regular season part of the reason it's i i've actually had an easier time enjoying the first two playoff games for the Leafs is I stopped caring about the how I don't give a shit the the regular season I care about the process I want to see what

kind of team you are I want to know what to expect uh what your identity is the playoffs hit and I'm like win get out shot 70 to 6 and win don't give a shit do not care just win you think any Jets fan cares that they've been outshot nope we just get in there and friggin win it's the best i wonder how much of the roster from the predators is left over from that team that went all the way to the finals and like you know they had some deep runs and i not that it was a while ago but i mean some of their major players were all there ellis and ekholm and those guys and i wonder um i wonder if that that's another one of those things like with the jets where there's a little bit of experience in the room they keep it calm for the newer guys and they're back in the series it's

going to be very interesting and i i think i think if the shot totals continue it's inevitable that the carolina is going to win it's inevitable if the shot totals continue to be this lopsided it's it'd be crazy but it can happen it can happen we can it's i mean welcome to the playoffs welcome to the playoffs listen carolina i enjoy the blanket that you sent me do not make it so that it's out of date by the second round right that's not fair to me and it's not fair to james it's not when it's two two it's such a toss-up because it is series anybody can win two games they'll be fine um but but but um the bruins kind of dust off the caps in five games which to be honest with you i thought that was going to be a closer series it just wasn't

The Bruins are solid all the way through. So there's like the major thing that came out of that is it looks like they want to move on from Kuznetsov so fast. The Cavs? Yeah, yeah. Justin Bort had my favorite tweet out of that. It was something along the lines of, I can't wait to see who Kuznetsov plays for next season.

Didn't Wyshynski have something like, it's going to be great when Vegas signs Ovechkin? Well, I think they re-sign Ovechkin. Come on, Wish. Vegas is always going to be in on it. but koozie they were upset with him in early may the report from pierre lebrun was that they were very upset with him is um the the covid protocols thing and then just his play on the ice and then he's out for like 14 games then he misses the first two um playoff games because of more covid

protocols and everybody's fed up with him at that point and then at the end of this it's um it's a goalie interference penalty that he clearly just shoves the goalie for no he shoves rask for no reason the goal that would have made it three two is taken back on the power play with five minutes to go in the closing game of the series and it's all it's his fault on there and it was like how are you happy with this player and then now the issue is you got four years left and it's like 72 million but if there's a taker for this player if you think he can rehabilitate his career from this season then somebody's going to take the contract my question would be how do you lose verana and kuznetsov within 20 regular season games of each other and come out on top and and

you want to talk about short memories in professional sports this guy not just won a playoff series for you in overtime it was against the penguins and and it's taken this tiny amount of time and get lost yeah i was listening to uh friedman on the 31 thoughts podcast today and he He was like, Kuznetsov probably should have won that consmite that year. And then now it's two years later and three years later, and they want to move on from him this quickly. Who did? Ovi.

Ovi. Oh, was it? Yeah, that makes sense. It usually just goes to popular guy. Like, Phil Kessel should have won. He should have. A hundred percent. Should have, absolutely.

I definitely agree with that. The thing is, the Capitals do have a reckoning ahead of them. They really do. because i mean you got to keep alexander ovechkin obviously but the negotiations have not gone well so where you know like you've you've you've put together a team that had an extremely strong offseason but obviously had covet issues with kuznetsov obviously there was who was the guy that was like caught doing cocaine on a phone and then it was like it wasn't me it was him it was koozie yeah okay so so maybe it's time for a change of scenery there but again i ask

You lose Branagh, you got Mantha. Mantha's a very good player. And you lose Kuznetsov. That's a significant change in personnel on that team because that team's been, you know, the nucleus of that team, Backstrom, Kuznetsov. Those guys have been together a long time. Ovechkin.

And then, so how do you come out on top of a Kuznetsov deal? Or net negative, or sorry, not negative, net, just net, like even. How do you come out even? You're trading him at his lowest value. That's the thing, if you want to move on. To the point about the con Smythe there, Jesse Ovechkin led the team in goals with 15, but because that's of a 12 and you have 32 points to Ovechkin's 27, you have 32 points in 24 playoff games. Awesome. Monster.

Monster. Good Lord. That guy. Listen, Seattle. If I'm Seattle, I'm making that phone call. That's very interesting. Yeah. So I'm looking at the caps.

and I'm trying to look at their top scores, and I'm trying to look for ages that start with two. That's a fun game. Because Netsop's one of them. It ain't good. So they got Backstrom, 32. Carlson, 30. This is in order, by the way.

Backstrom, 32. Carlson, 30. Oshie, 33. Ovechkin, 34. this is at the beginning of the season i assume tom wilson 26 there's one because that's off 28 uh-oh justin schultz really 30 jake vrana 24 wait oops lar zeller 31 then connor sherry 28 uh dimitri orlov 29 that won't start with the two for very long take it from me and then daniel sprung like this is uh this is a pretty old team man and like they recently got

brendan dylan that dude's 29 carl hageland's 32 there's a lot of oh um and earl schwartz tweeted this last night i couldn't believe it because of zidane ocharo's games played performance bonuses that the caps are gonna go into overage next year against the cat oh god Because of a 44-year-old. Now, I know it's not just any 44-year-old. It's Zidane O'Friegan Char. Still, you don't do that. But.

You don't do that. I think they rightfully felt like they had the chance to win the cup this year. I don't think it was wrong of them to think that. They dominated in the regular season. Dominated. Okay. You were great. Okay.

This is the second straight playoff you've looked like shit. Okay. Fair. But they didn't know that. They didn't know that. And also, now everybody in Washington gets to see what it's like when a really, really good hockey team that does super well during the regular season looks like shit against the Bruins in the playoffs. And hey, by the way, Washington made it five games. At least we made it seven.

All right. Right? Do you take something from the fact that, like, there's a bunch of first-round exits and then a Stanley Cup and then two straight first-round exits? Is that troubling? Sure. And the troubling thing is the guy who I think was one of the most instrumental parts of them making it, Barry Trotz, doesn't play – doesn't coach for you anymore. Right. And the Kings for a while, but they mixed in a couple cups there, so it doesn't really count.

The Blues. No one ever looked at the Blues during the Blackhawks and Kings swapping cups for literally five years. no one looked at the blues during that time period and said this team sucks why why can't they do it the answer was right in front of you well here's why they can't do it because the team that keeps winning the cup keeps playing them in the first or second round it's really hard the capitals aren't getting that they're not getting that benefit of the doubt um and 2018 was not recent anymore no you know what i mean it's uh there are some tough decisions coming there in washington on and oh sorry go ahead well sorry it's it's it's an advanced sydney crosby conversation you

know and we've had it a few times can you imagine crosby playing anywhere other than pittsburgh the answer is always no does ovechkin ever play somewhere that's not washington it would feel so gross can i posit something can i just put something out there i gotta i gotta remind everybody that the capitals outshot the bruins 41 to 19 in this game tuka rask has been unbelievable was that what it was is the last year this deal there was 5 000 bruins fans there and they were all chanting tuka and and bruins fans hate tuka for some reason and i like tuka because he was a leaf at one point damn it 941 through five games come on i mean what chance do you have it didn't feel like washington was ever in that game like when pasta he walks nick dowd

best goal of the playoff so far i think he walks him and it's like these guys are dejected i don't think washington ever believed they could win and because rask is standing on his head and they can't get anything going and then when they do it's taken back because of a goal interference they were never really in it nick dowd by the way i believe he had the ot winner in game one and every game after that had a bad nick dowd highlight yeah like he he had an embarrassing series he had a tough series after that game one yeah he had a yeah that that wasn't nothing nice i just want to do a quick note congrats to taylor hall curtis lazar and mike riley they've all reached to the second round of the playoffs for the first time in their careers

I told you they had a good deadline They had a great deadline Taylor Haller, second round pick But even like Bruins always get the guy It's not like Lazar's been unreal But he's been a contributor And Mike Riley, really underrated

He's been underrated for at least a couple years now In Ottawa Really like him What did you make of Ovechkin screaming at Samsonov there In the net after he screwed up Frustration Samsonov's injured

too right like he's not health and that's the that's your backup goalie too you know it's not even your i think he's supposed to be the starter he's supposed to be i think let me look hard to check or whatever his name i can never remember i can't pronounce his name yeah i think vanish vanish was the starting goalie i think going into the series you do available maybe you're right oh you know what but he's been injured right yes so he was injured in game one and that's why Anderson had to come in yeah he started he started the series do you know what he did but that's because Samsonov was injured goaltending was tough this year so Vanacek played 37 games I don't think the plan was for him to be the starter though in this season I think he just won it so he played

37 games had a 908 and Samsonov had a I remember if I remember correct he had a really bad start and then got much better, but he had a 9-0-2 in 19 games. Craig Henderson was a 9-15 in four, but, I mean, that's, I don't know. It's still fun. They got probably, I mean, we seem to say this every year, but what an interesting offseason they have coming up. Seattle, baby. Yeah, it's going to be very, very interesting.

I'm excited for it. I'm excited to see what happens. And like I said, I think if the Caps overreact here, that it's a mistake. Ghetto Vetch can re-sign. You might even want to try Kuznetsov one more time. I think there's a good team there. There is.

That's what the Bruins do. The Bruins in the playoffs, it sucks. They take smart teams, open their skulls, and take a shit. By the way, Bruins-Pens is going to be awesome. So Tuka Rask is on the last of his years in Boston. And I know he's got a family and stuff to consider. But if I'm Ken Holland, I throw all the money at him. All the money.

What do you want? What do you want? I'll give you Bobrovsky money. I got Connor McDavid. I got to make it work now. So what do you want? I'm not going to be here in three years anyway. What do you want?

I don't think he wants it. The one thing, I mean, something you can say about Boston. There is a magic to that place. I really like it. And I think the players love it. it's a fucking great place to see a game dude it's like i've never had so much fun watching the loose leafs lose six nothing it was great like it was really it's one of the worst hockey games i've ever seen in my entire life yeah if we're at a blast if we're power ranking

american cities to play hockey is boston number one oh i think top five without thinking of any other cities i think vegas new york boston probably somewhere in there i'm gonna i'm gonna say your top five have got to be the rangers um the bruins the preds the golden knights and um i mean god uh after that it's not that anybody else is in great tampa's probably up there too because what a great lifestyle you have there and the fans are bananas yeah um but i think i think boston's probably the best place i go boston i go boston nashville vegas boston nashville that's not a bad list yeah a lot of yellow a lot of yellow maybe pittsburgh should be in there then like maybe yeah great yeah what's your top three power ranking american cities to play hockey

it's tough because i haven't seen games in a ton of places but boston is so fun i've seen how many games have i seen there two uh that's been really good um i didn't get to see madison square garden i bought fake tickets and lost my money um yeah yeah buffalo's nothing special no offense um it's but i mean it's not as bad as people say for god's sake oh my god no um where in the states have i the preds have to be up there it's tough i just haven't been to enough american venues um okay well there's a he didn't answer the question well i'm not the right guy to ask well dude we and we've been to less than you have but we're still answering the question no you haven't well i've been to the

predators yeah so have i yeah so have i yeah you've been to tampa i haven't you've been to pittsburgh i haven't oh there you go so you stopped in the finals we're still tied that's true never been to detroit never been to buffalo never been ever been to detroit i've been to never been to Buffalo I do want to see games in Detroit and Buffalo this upcoming season I have to do that it's ridiculous they're driving distance it's stupid um the next one because we already got to the abs and blues is actually I I wanted to do a quick note on the Canucks um because that is the end of the series um at least for now Penn's Isles Penn's Isles I mean I don't know what else to say on that one I mean you guys have any thoughts on that series it's

just it's of the series and i with apologies to pens and aisles fans it's kind of the quiet one is it not i like the sydney crosby appreciation fest that goes on when he's on a national stage again that's always fun to watch what a lunatic on the puck what he's unbelievable the islanders for the for how dominant the penguins are the islanders are playing them exactly how we thought they would it's two two i i raised my eyebrow a little bit when jesse goes on bruins pens is gonna be great i'm like is it it's gonna be great bruins pens is gonna be great you guys i mean that's still how i think this plays out but i'm still i'm still excited for the fallout of jesse blake versus the city of edmonton i think that's gonna be fun

like i he hates blue and orange hates it hey next season i said you guys could be good but this season you don't have it yeah no clearly yeah so oh and i don't think that's how to take barzal five points through four games it's weird that him being a scratch had no effect on how good he is as a player just i just like to say that i was unperturbed by that late season scolding that he got from his coach unperturbed he's still sick um i want to talk about the canucks quickly the uh there were fans protesting yesterday outside of the arena what yeah they were standing outside of rogers arena this weekend protesting and saying please god change the management here no that's how bad it is that's how you spend your long weekend yeah it's a long weekend in canada

we get like four oh dear oh no god bless canucks fans so yeah seriously you do not feel terrible for them so so then obviously so it was a surprise to me on saturday night when during headlines uh elliot friedman's like hey by the way jt miller's not gonna ask for a trade i was like when did that become what what why and so i don't i don't actually and i can't actually find an article that says he was gonna ask for a trade so i'm not i didn't know and i follow canucks where a lot of people i don't i haven't seen it so i don't know i don't know what to make of it uh but he's not asking for a trade so there you go um and uh the sardines could be coming back and i'm concerned here because sometimes this can be good sometimes this can be not good the sardines are gonna there's

an offer on the table for the sardines to come back in some sort of role and sometimes that can be really good like look what with sakic in colorado eiserman in tampa and now detroit sometimes it turns into uh the owner wants to hang out with the the the cool guys who used to play hockey like in edmonton so i think the sardines are pretty business oriented be pretty tough to see how they wouldn't want to be taskmasters at this one what role do they play do you think at this point that benefits and frankly a a general manager and crew that are eight years into this like what are the sardines going to offer as far as an edge i i do like that the sardines play kind of a timeless style of hockey like if they were both in their primes you know you take the

sardines from 2003 2004 2005 whatever when they were much younger and you plop them into today's nhl they'd be just fine they'd be a-okay i do like that there's also a bit of a like a buffer almost like a translator for them uh because alex ebler is still there and he was part of that that whole Canucks heyday the the clip was going around today of Kevin BX's overtime winner that came off of a fluky bounce off of an Alex Edler uh I don't know he was the last Canuck to have the puck before BX did so uh I I do like that Edler can sort of be the the fill-in hey here's what you might have missed to the Canucks organization but what I am what I just don't see is what Jim Benning has left to offer that team.

It doesn't even need to be that he's done anything wrong. It's what is he going to do right. What is he going to do? Just to add to your point, Steve, before you keep going, the goal for the Canucks this offseason is to look for forward depth. I just, I just, guys, you need a smart management type guy. And listen, the argument that Benning is a good scout,

I have more than enough time for. Yep, looks like he's pretty good at talent evaluation. Giving this guy the power to offer contracts is lunacy. This guy, listen, not everyone's a numbers guy. And it's about time the Canucks organization understood this guy's weaknesses strengths now not too many guys take a demotion uh you know very well but i think he'd be he you can keep him in the organization i think he'd be fine i think he'd help him general manager no absolutely not that ship has sailed and you can't tell me that i mean the canucks have not been

strong since he took over we're now going into season eight like how long are you gonna ride almost winning second round a second round series right the oil and how many steps road they took how many steps back after that though that's the thing yes but yeah but think about

how they almost won in the second round but those players aren't there anymore but they almost won in the second round you're not listening Adam come on in the footsteps of other great Canadian teams to almost win in the second round the 2017 oilers that's a team worth holding on to for another two years despite no evidence

that they're the same you know what i mean like good lord good lord this the bar is under the ocean in this country for the seven teams that play in it the the jets and the sends are like the crown jewel of one day you can almost win the third round you know hey all you almost winning the second round losers why don't you get on board with the almost winning the third round less losers like uh-huh it's hey i miss i miss the heyday of about 10 years ago when canadian teams almost won the fourth round which was a thing yeah oh there was a great time period where almost every year a canadian team almost won the fourth round the the flames had a shot they almost won the Oilers had a shot they almost won the Sens had a shot they almost won and then there

was a couple year layoff and we got worried but then in 2011 the Canucks stepped up to the mantle of almost winning in the fourth round they kept it alive the dream they kept the dream alive and then tried to transform it into the bro the standard has dropped we started accepting almost third round and then now we're at almost second and what happened to this once great hockey nation the canadian holy shit the canadian team's gotta raise the bar it's terrible is it is it a media phenomenon because i don't think any fan cheers for canadian teams like it's it's more of a media phenomenon is it not what do you mean when when like the media is grouping these canadians oh no canadian team has made the second round or gone to the finals or won a cup like i don't think fans

cheer like that at all no oftentimes too petty for that although i had to say the 2011 canucks the 06 oilers and the 04 flames sorry senators i couldn't get behind it because it's the senators you but those those three teams man the duane rolandson going down in the first first game of the oil that was the oilers cup they were gonna win they were gonna win the flames got fucking jogged the flames should have won in 04 they should have won they it was a joke that they didn't um and and honestly the canucks like it's literally a game it's a toss-up and that was a fun team to watch there's nothing not to like about that why would canadians have any affinity for these other franchises just because they're in canada like there's 32 teams in the league and

that's the thing about that other ones it's a media narrative yeah we got the small man syndrome right america doesn't go well at least the cups in america right they do when the raptors win the championship because that's a different sport yeah but in hockey they're not like at least an american team got it there's only 20 of us 23 of us actually it's not about that jesse it's just that all the canadian teams seem to think the same and i don't mean it as a as a compliment like it's uh they all uh the the canucks especially um and you relate it to the oilers and there's a little bit of flames in there they all have had these management groups that have stuck around for too long because they almost did something once you know what i mean and like

the the sins hung on they had their hands forced a little bit players wanting out etc and ownership and money that was a little different the montreal canadians have gotten all the rope in the world for winning a couple rounds a couple years ago or however long ago that was. Yeah, when was that? I don't even remember. Was it 2017? Yeah, and then they won the play-in round last year.

I was about to say last year knocking off Pittsburgh. Jeez. They have all this rope now. Oh, they got into the playoffs. They did look good. Unless you're the head coach. I don't understand how these teams think. I just feel like it's the Canadian teams, if you win a round or heaven's to Betsy too,

oh shit, congrats on job security for the next half decade for almost doing something once. I just feel like it's not tolerated in other places. A quick note on Jim Benning, if you guys don't mind, before we get to the press conference. I do want to say that when and I mentioned this in the last show, when referring to a victim or an alleged victim of any crime, if they're over the age of 18, the proper way to refer to them is their adult pronoun. So in this case, a woman who was accused, who was accused, one of your players of sexual assault should be referred to as a woman multiple times during the press conference. And Steve, you made a really good point about this. he referred to this person as the girl um and to me it's it it really dug at me because i actually got to watch it afterwards it i found it diminishing and reductive and i don't think

for an instant that jim benning would have been out there being like you know what screw this person but i think it's extremely important that we have to say something when um when he does whether or not you meant to is sort of immaterial at this point what happens when you do that is it's basically been used in the past to stop people from being taken seriously. So, oh, she's barely an adult. She's still a young girl. She's still a girl. She's a young adult, but she's a girl. And people aren't taken seriously when crimes like this are reported. Oh, practically still a girl. So I want to say, and I want to reinforce Steve's point, because I'm literally stealing Steve's point. If you want to be a GM in the NHL today,

you should know how to speak publicly about these things not just about hockey you can't bury your head in the sand and go i'm not watching anything like with the alan vigno we haven't seen anything the only thing we're focused on is hockey bullshit oh and and this is about anything and everything and i have to say this will very likely not be the last accusation of sexual assault leveled at a professional hockey player we know that and and we're working to change that, but we know pretty well that that will not be the case. So NHL GMs need to be able to know how to conduct themselves publicly because we need to demand more of our teams. They need to be sensitive to these issues, understand that their fans are not just men. There are women,

female fans, almost exactly the same amount. And that you need to be speaking to both sides on that. If we're serious about combating this issue, we have to make true changes. And that means words matter. And that means if you're Francesco Aquilini, you call Jim Benning and saying, we're taking you in for training on this because that is absolutely unacceptable. Now I doubt, like I said, Jim Benning wanted to sound dismissive, but he sounded dismissive and he needs to be educated on how not to do that in the future. We all fuck up. I fuck up all the time. We're learning, but remember I'm not an NHL GM. Steve is not an NHL GM. Jesse's not an NHL GM. We are people who started our own podcast and we're learning and trying to speak properly

on this. If you're an NHL GM, a position of eminence, a position of everybody's looking at you, watching you, you're a leader in the community. You're a leader on your team. You're a leader in your organization. You need to know how to be able to speak to and speak about issues relating to sexual assault and other things too. And if you're a woman working for the Canucks, no matter how nice Jim Benning is, how do

feel working for him when he calls somebody the girl and it doesn't that's an issue for me and i just wanted to say that yeah it doesn't have to be nefarious like like you were saying but like this it needs to be handled with extra care right and and the more things you get wrong the less it appears that way address people properly steve right yeah well this is this is the this is this is the problem that i've brought up many times with this with this team it's nothing against the guy but like jesus you're the gm it is a little against the guy you gotta you gotta it's the guy you can't talk yeah the position comes with a certain amount of responsibility if you're going to be a mouthpiece to the media yep and representing the crest like the team itself in

the media and if you don't know how to how to speak properly like that's on you then the highest you will get to is agm thank you very much have a nice day well and and dude it's seven years now yeah seven years training what training but forget the canucks yeah forget the canucks uh performance on the ice right seven years of bad press conferences and then this yeah and not and i know not a lot was made of it and i get that people are gonna be like what are you making it's a big deal this this person needs to speak about these things with the gravity that they deserve it's ridiculous enough anyway well that's just my two pieces or two cents on it let's get to the press conference and we'll make it real quick two and five canadians will hear the words

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we need to mention that the pwhpa secret dream gap tour kicks off today in calgary you this isn't a promo but you can watch it on sportsnet now you're welcome steve dangle for promoting your network. Toronto. Toronto plays Montreal today, which is very fitting because we have Toronto-Montreal.

It's Team Sunnet versus Team Bauer. Kicks off at five o'clock. Go watch those women play hockey. They are excellent at it. And it should be great competition. It takes place all week. I think the championship is on Sunday,

May 30th. So it's a week week-long tournament should be fun and i would uh i would also like to shout out some friends who are uh i'm jealous because they were able to leave the country to do something um alice forfar uh story saris and chris tanoia are uh overseas working the the world hockey championship uh right now as is lindsey hamilton from tsn just throwing that out there too yeah but bell and uh so i would just like i'm joking i would uh i'd just like to shout you out congrats on being able to go there and please kill it all right it looks nice in the summer by the way first thing up we have a shout out latvia sorry for beating canada we have a

controversy that we need to address i sent you guys a video a video from steve's home nation so over the over the weekend uh italy won eurovision oh eurovision if you don't know is the world is the european competition of bands so every country gets a band and they compete in like a march madness kind of tournament and then one band wins eurovision so they're the ultimate band of europe and this year a group from italy won the eurovision so they were performing a song the band's called men's skin i'm not saying that correctly i don't know this and they're like a heavy metal band right they're a heavy metal band and they're the song they won with is called shut up and be quiet that's what it translates to because they're a heavy metal band the song

it's i'm not even gonna attempt to pronounce it in italian but um so they win and everything's going crazy they're sitting at the thing it's all it's all hype and then the drummer i believe always the drummer so the drum no the lead singer it was the lead singer uh demanio demano david i'm not saying that correctly either but uh mr david bends down to the table have you guys seen the video now yes i've seen the video but i can't hear it okay there's no audio it's okay uh he bends down to the table and he 100 does a line of cocaine live on television now the producers of eurovision have come oh my gosh yeah he does the european broadcasting union who produces the eurovision have come out and said the band have strongly refuted the allegations of drug use

and the singer in question will take a voluntary drug test after arriving home furthermore the band insists that no drugs were present and the ebu even confirmed that broken glass was found after on site so the the band's story is that mr david was bending down to check out some broken glass that had broken on the table and that he was not doing drugs now that you guys know the the full story and you've seen the tape what is your conclusions uh i i guess i i just haven't been around enough people who have done blow um but like i don't know there's enough plausible deniability there i guess i think his head's too high off the table to do blow to be honest where's the straw where's the like it's too i think he's just punking the world and i think

i've seen i've never personally done cocaine and i would tell you if i had but i've seen it a lot and that doesn't look like a guy doing actual cocaine to me i've never never seen it once is he it may be his nail no there's enough plausible deniability what i'm appreciating is i'm looking at that uh that bowl full of beer and i'm like is that peroni right now boys you want to have some roadies so steve is your your home country they're okay oh my my home country is yeah where i'm from where i was born on the on the hill i was born on the hills of monteleone and uh oh yeah don't worry we're just fine we're so happy to have beaten every country in europe plus randomly australia who gets to compete in eurovision all right so we've concluded that uh italia

the entire italian culture has been exonerated that's right steve dangle and adam wilde don't think he did cocaine live on television i wonder i wonder what that test will come back and say by the way um it's notorious for not staying in your system very long i know this from living in alberta where they regularly drug tested people that worked on the rigs you know the oil oil patch guys uh so they come into the city and instead of smoking weed which was illegal at the time um they would do cocaine because weed stays in your system a long time coke does not which was also illegal at the time also illegal at the time yeah no longer illegal more illegal yeah uh all right first question comes from at screw underscore feb 22 uh favorite video game series

if you guys had to pick a video game series as your favorite we're talking non-sports here what's your favorite video game series i'm such a lame gamer i am too i think if i were to say anything the grand theft auto series including red dead redemption is the greatest of all time and i don't think there's you know you could say super mario is probably the biggest impact on society but the best most in-depth games we're talking your favorite though my favorite is far cry okay that's your far cry you're all about far cry love it it's just chaos what's what's far cry open world you're basically dropped into a scenario every time where you can't leave and there's something happening that is really dangerous so like uh the the first two are a

little bit different so far cry one and two don't really kind of match with the rest but far cry cry three you're like on a deserted island and there's like a and you land in like a cartel island and the locals are trying to fight back against the cartel and you're helping them and it's a bit cartoony and it's a bit action movie and that's sort of the point uh and like like the most recent one took place in Montana and it's like a doomsday cult that's taken over this little town and they've blocked all the entrances because they, it's, it's in a mountain region. So you can't go. Yeah. And it's so sick. And like, you have to, um,

you have to like defeat several different bosses and you can get, um, they can run you down and kidnap you. And like you, you just, and it's like, it's one of those things where you're like, randomly walking down the street something blows up an animal attacks you uh or there's like a convoy headed towards you all of a sudden and you have to run off to the side you can't walk anywhere in this fucking game without shit happening and sometimes too you'll see like um you'll see like like a big and like like animals like fighting each other and like like it's just nuts uh and the next one is going to be um it's supposed to be modeled on like a like cuba-ish

of like a dictatorial government and it's a tropical island and there's like a ton of unrest because they're trying to overthrow the ruler and the ruler is basically training his son. You should check out the trailer for it. By the way, also a Canadian game. I believe it's made out of Ubisoft Montreal.

Oh, no. Really good. Really good. That's cool. I love Red Dead Redemption 2. It's hard to say series though because I've never played Red Dead Redemption. Red Dead Redemption is really good.

and here's what i loved about red dead redemption 2 i had heard of john marston that's all i went into it with so now that i know so i i obviously i know the story of red dead redemption now but i went into that game naked i didn't know a thing so everything that happened was shocking everyone who died everyone who survived like if i knew the plot to red dead redemption i'd be like okay well i know this guy's not in it so he's probably gonna go and this guy is probably gonna go and that's and this guy i know is gonna survive because he's in the second one or he's in the original one but every death i was like no no how dare you but i i'd say series like the series that i've followed for the longest time and everyone get ready to find me so

attractive uh starcraft oh so good so good great story really great someone tweeted me the other day for some reason i don't even remember the context uh a screen cap from the starcraft legacy of the void trailer and i then went and watched that trailer ran through several walls and i am now in the middle of watching every cinematic and i'm probably going to go find a youtube video that is that just someone playing that game from start to finish how can you how can you play stark like there was the three new ones that came out at because there was the original game and then there was brood wars and then there was nothing for 15 years and then the next three came out yeah and i i how do you even play the the newer three anymore is it steam maybe uh uh

i'm pretty sure wings of liberty still works on my old laptop it just makes it set on fire that's the problem so i'll have to oh god no i have a kid i don't have time this is what i said to myself the other day i don't have time for this but god it's so fun i'm just opening up my steam account right now to see if it's up there jesse what about you i can't do it uh i only play sports video games so i'm lame in that way so what's your favorite if i had to do my favorite one of all time it's definitely uh mlb the show games it's so good i think i still think it's the best um sports video game ever made like and then what they've done in the last couple of years of just um like adding all of the features from the greatest baseball so mvp baseball 2005 is regarded

as the best uh baseball video game ever made and like i think the show has doubled that and surpassed it in every single way because at the beginning they kind of just they took all the features from the greatest game ever and then now that and especially because it was um it was sony exclusive for so many years that you have this developer team that's building on this ecosystem where they know every in-depth of how to build on on the playstation that's all they have to worry about you don't have to worry about making this game so it can port order over to pc and they can also work on xbox so they had this range where just these sony developers are working within a sony ecosystem to just max out the console so every year i felt like the mlb the show game was just

this massive game and it didn't match anything else because you had these guys working inside just sony so yeah they i think they've nailed it for the last like 10 years and so that'd probably definitely be my favorite uh video game series yeah especially the um when you're doing the show like the little the creative where you go as your individual self you like start in the minors and then you work your way up to the show oh it's so fun it's so good when you create a player and you get every little aspect of being a an mlb player it's awesome i like being a pitcher which means you get into like 15 games and the season's done but the what pissed me off is like remember one year this is before they really updated the the contract mechanics i won the

cy young twice in a row and they're like here's a million dollars yeah because i want to make imaginary money in baseball you don't have a lot of rights until like you're seven years in that's when you hit free agency you gotta accrue all of this mlb service time but in real life they pay you a lot more so this is the ai is kind of broken in that way because they're like you don't have to pay you you're not a free agent so here's a million dollars even though you're 21 and 0 and you got a one era and you won the scion that was that was the problem that was the problem with nhl for a while it's like well why am i holding out for more money it has no impact on my life or in the game and i want to be a leaf so bye league men like league men and i scored 250 points

when they needed to um make it so that like it actually matters i want to say they did didn't they make it so that like you can buy attributes or something like that yeah yeah well i remember too when they like getting called up like early on and scoring like six goals and then the leaf sent you back down you're like what the fuck yeah when you get the little the five game tryout or whatever and you light it up and you're a point a game and then they're like we're gonna send you back to the and then there was injury issues too i remember one year i got drafted by the blackhawks after playing the full fucking memorial cup and uh for some reason i guess i had the injury thing set normally but i got injured and i missed like 40 games at a time like it was i'd play a game i'd

get i'd score a bunch of goals and then i get hit my player result they're like oh you got to pull the injury thing down i'm like that's the default setting though what's going on here real life you got fragile bones yeah i guess so i guess so just a big just a big old breakable guy yeah so the baseball games were fun when they implemented like when you're your character and you got to run the bases and it's like you never thought in a baseball game you'd actually be controlling the guy who's running around the bases in like real time where you're just kind of sprinting to the base and then you kind of you flick your analog stick to do a certain slide like they got so in depth with that stuff it's awesome there was a baseball game that i played it was like on the original nintendo it

was way way back in the day it was obviously years after it came out but like you'd all you you try to hit certain parts of the field because if you aim at another part you know that you're not going to be able to stop your player from running so you're just going to get shafted by the animation and like he's and he's running toward third he's never going to make it the ball is already there stop running you dumbass you can't even keep going yeah yeah and you just get stuck that was my issue with Wayne Gretzky or what Wayne Gretzky Ken Griffey's Major League Baseball if you sent a runner both runners would send and you were like okay so I'm gonna fuck I'm fucked I'm totally fucked yeah so you had to be sure anyway we should probably wrap it up with that

we will be back Wednesday uh to see what the who who the hell knows what will happen between now on Wednesday. Montreal and Toronto tonight. Edmonton and Winnipeg tonight. We'll see if the Oilers are still playing hockey by Wednesday. Should be really, really interesting. We got two Leafs games, right? Monday, Tuesday.

Yep. Back-to-back, baby. Wow. A couple days for your boy. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Steve's live streams. Oh, yeah.

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