The Steve Dangle Podcast - LFG | January 28, 2022

Episode Date: January 28, 2022

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Calvin de Haan to the Leafs? No. (00:00), Evander Kane signs with the Edmonton Oilers for the rest of the season (05:00), the Arizona Coyotes are planning ...to play in a 5000 seat arena at ASU (26:30), John Tortorella comments on Trevor Zegras scoring a Michigan goal (50:00), the SDP in the Metaverse (1:02:00), and a Black History Month idea! (1:15:00). Originally aired: January 28, 2022 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/nMcGasOTxTQ Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp Visit this episode's sponsors: https://manscaped.com/ CODE: Dangle https://magicspoon.com/sdp https://www.directv.com/ https://betmgm.com/ https://stance.com/ Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This show is presented by Manscaped. Sign up for 20% off Manscaped.com using the code DANGLE. Sorry Evander Kane, but you are not the top story today. No, not even number two. Who's the main character? The main character today is Noxian Cax, knocking it out of the park with over 5,000 hits on YouTube already. Just want to say that first show is out. And I know, Jesse, haven't you recorded episode two already?
Starting point is 00:00:37 We have. Yeah, we did that yesterday. Can we do a little teasing? Oh, I don't think that's not on me. That's not for me to spoil. No, he's right. He's right. He can't pull a me.
Starting point is 00:00:48 Oh, you're right. You're right. Yeah, we can't have the shit be that leaky. No. No. Okay, well, listen. And we're very, very excited for them going into it. The outpouring was amazing.
Starting point is 00:01:00 The support was amazing. Thank you so much for supporting that show. And obviously, it's going to be out two times a week. So you're going to have... And they stuck to half an hour. Hey, shut up. They stuck to half an hour. That's the first show in network history that has stuck to half an hour.
Starting point is 00:01:15 You mean you got this thing about how shows should be half an hour. Some shows should be half an hour. No, they need a bad influence. We got to get CJ and Julian to talk to them. Hey, don't be such nerds. You guys ever try smoking? You know? They got to be like that.
Starting point is 00:01:31 I like that. The people they taught us we would encounter in our lives at assemblies. So are they like the Malfoy of the universe here, of the SDPN universe? More like Balkan Skull from the Power Rangers. Oh, okay. All right, I like that. Number two on the list, again, not Evander Kane. Still?
Starting point is 00:01:52 Is that, guys, Toronto Maple Leaf. are reportedly interested in. ISO me. Give me the ISO. You want the camera? Give me the ISO. How do you do it? It's Vander Cain.
Starting point is 00:02:05 The Toronto Maple Leafs are reportedly interested in Calvin, mother freaking DeHaan, baby. Yeah! Woo! It's Stanley Cup time, baby! DeHaan!
Starting point is 00:02:16 Come home! Come home! You should have signed here a few years ago anyway. We'll forget about that. It'll only cost the Leafs their thing. They're saying it'll be like
Starting point is 00:02:23 a mid-round pick if it happens. You gave them the very disappointed parent on the lip. He signed elsewhere when he shouldn't have. You know, I think that might be because he's from Carp, Ontario. There might be a little bit of Sens versus Leafs there.
Starting point is 00:02:38 And he let it cloud his judgment. And now he's ready to be right. If he comes to Toronto and they make it to the second round and there's that little bit of playoff magic, does that mean he's a Magic Carp? Oh, Adam. Adam, that was awful.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Oh, no. I thought that was great. I don't know what the problem is. Calvin DeHaan, Toronto Maple Leaf, future anyway. Let's go. Dubas, get it done. We found his nickname if he gets here. And when he scores, he'll be Gyarados.
Starting point is 00:03:09 That's right. You see, because... I don't know. It might be stretching a little bit. Shots from the pointer. Hyperbeam? No, we're workshopping here. Finger snaps.
Starting point is 00:03:16 Jesse wants to say something. We should let him. Where's the report from? I know the answer. I know. There's a reason I'm asking the question. listen okay dude.instagram it's not dude.instagram the report came from steve's favorite insider the fourth period oh well it was fun you don't know that montreal's ben charotte dallas is
Starting point is 00:03:45 sometimes anaheim's josh manson are also potential targets for the toronto maple police but those players would would were from according to bleacher nation would require a much higher a trade package not according to bleacher nation it's according to bleacher nation who's quoting the fourth period okay oh listen he does have stuff he's quoted on instagram a lot he is and i'm calling i'm saying the fix is in what do you mean i'm saying there's an ecosystem of just he's he's got an in with the instagram accounts what do you mean the instagram accounts that all look the same and have similar graphics wait are you saying that he reports something and then has a bunch of instagram accounts i'm just saying the truth is that aggregate his information
Starting point is 00:04:33 i are you saying hold on are you saying david pegna says his instagram he's smart insider man And their insider accounts are false flags or something. I don't know. By the way, I hope David, if he hears this, takes none of this personally. No. Or just goofing. No. Just goofing around.
Starting point is 00:04:50 No. But, no, we'll have a meetup of coffee that I won't show up to. Is that what happened? No. I'm still bitter about the Eric Carlson thing from years ago. Oh, for God's sake, stop it. Listen, Evander Kane is the top story today. And there's a lot to get through here.
Starting point is 00:05:10 First off, what you need to know is that the Oilers have signed him to a one-year contract, $750,000. Number two, what you need to know is that he was cleared of any wrongdoing. They didn't exonerate him, but they said there wasn't evidence sufficient to support what the San Jose Sharks said amounted to him having his contract voided. Now, there's not enough evidence for more discipline. More discipline. The discipline that he has already still applies. Like his contract being voided and all that stuff. Because Steve and I were talking last night.
Starting point is 00:05:38 This is tremendously confusing. Yeah. So he got his contract voided, and he had the – was it a suspension or he had something? There was some sort of discipline. Yeah. Go ahead. I don't think there was. There's been nothing extra.
Starting point is 00:05:51 So his contract's voided by the Sharks because of all the reasons that the Sharks gave to the NHL. They're like, okay, go ahead, do this. And then the NHL starts investigating to see if there should be any supplementary discipline for breaking the law and breaking COVID protocols and all those things. and they found that there was no evidence sufficient evidence to give him any more punishment to stop him from signing with the team that's where we're at okay yeah so what that means is the sharks had evidence that evidence has been verified they were able to uh terminate his contract so that was confusing last night because it was like wait a second so are you saying none of this happened then shouldn't he get all his money back from the sharks that's what i was
Starting point is 00:06:31 thinking right and also not only should they pay him they should be penalized against the cap they should absolutely now this is if that's not the case this is going to be a mike richard situation there is some sort of payout happening here there has to be yeah because the grievance that evander kane has filed against the nhl uh the nhlpa has filed on behalf of evander kane to the nhl that's still pending so who knows if the nhlpa wins their grievance because there wasn't sufficient evidence to suspend him further i don't know i've heard that this uh yesterday's news won't affect that grievance which is clear as mud i don't understand it i'm not gonna lie oh yeah but okay yeah sure he's not suspended so um with all that said um he is going to the
Starting point is 00:07:19 oilers he did talk to uh kayla gray on the shift kayla gray noted helper of finding my loss of dog uh when my yeah when seti when seti got out uh a couple years ago kayla was one of the first people to message me on on on twitter like how can i help and then like yeah she's amazing oh well it's a it's an awful feeling yes and she was all over it which is great and we love kayla shout out to kayla in the shift um at tsn so um she sat down with him now the thing with evander kane is he is really good at the sit and chats the very serious one-on-one in the room sit and chats he had one he had one not six months ago no yeah i think uh who did it was it was it greg wischinski no great no no sorry sorry greg wischinski tweeted the screenshot oh like oh
Starting point is 00:08:06 he's got like a rubric here or he's got like a like a god i'm i'm missing there's a strategy a strategy yes there it is was it linda cone i don't know i'm gonna look it up right now i'm looking at greg's twitter account hoping to find it but he tweets a lot damn it greg it might not sure tweet a lot great i think i saw it this morning yeah anyway uh yeah he does the this it was with linda cone yeah there you go and so they do this to sit down face to face uh you know you know and and whenever somebody's done something serious like it was um like like charlamagne did with travis scott after astroworld like everybody on 60 minutes you have this sit and chat but this is his second in six months and obviously there's been a lot of controversy
Starting point is 00:08:48 that's followed Evander Kane, not just here, but anywhere he's gone. And I'll be honest with you, I didn't get it at the beginning. Like there was the money phone thing when he was, you know, in his first team where he was in Vegas and he had this. That was nothing.
Starting point is 00:09:00 That was stupid. No, we defended him for years. A thousand percent. And then there was the tracksuit situation with Dustin Bufflin where he showed up late and didn't show up in a suit and Dustin Bufflin threw his tracksuit in the shower and they're like, okay, we better trade him.
Starting point is 00:09:13 Well, and at the end of that, I'm like, I don't know, kind of sounds like Bufflin was the jerk. A hundred percent. And the helicopter from Buffalo to Toronto for, like, a Jays game or something. Which, again, he's got the money to do it, I guess. So, like, does it matter? Yeah. He doesn't have the money.
Starting point is 00:09:29 He filed for bankruptcy just before. True. We didn't know that. But back at that day, we didn't know that, right? Like, you didn't know. So, what we found out, though, through the Athletic was that essentially, and this was all detailed in the report at the end of the summer, several sharks players went to doug wilson and said please do not bring this person back yeah team's leading score yeah and there was accusations of abuse there was accusations of um i think i
Starting point is 00:09:58 think unpaid child support there was accusations of uh we know he's got a crippling gambling debt virtually everything right now have any of those been substantiated no but the accusations were made and you know i think you have to i'm i'm presenting those to you without comment but i think we all know when an accusation especially of spousal abuse is made you know you have to listen to the victim yeah and well cj sort of brought this point up a little while ago when they were talking about evander kane on the cj show until uh he's accused of something and it goes further right like it's proven there's nothing really teams in the league can do right they can't prevent him from being in the national hockey right based on because legally
Starting point is 00:10:44 they can't right right which is now they don't have to sign them that's that's just what it is they don't have to sign them right away but yes yeah they don't have you can choose to not have them in your locker room but like if you want them there then it's your right because nothing legally has been done against them yeah yep and you know i saw i saw people laughing at the oilers like what if they still miss the playoffs well they could trade them so if they want evander Kane said today he didn't get along with every teammate the narrative that he didn't get along with every teammate in San Jose
Starting point is 00:11:17 is false right okay great says leaks of that narrative came from the dressing room not him and quote that's not good leadership so the Kayla Gray interview which I don't think is getting enough credit for at least getting some more of Andrew Kane information
Starting point is 00:11:33 out there I don't think enough media people are quoting her at the interview directly which is a shame because she did I think the reason is it's hard to find it that is it's very hard to find yeah because it exists solely on the bell platform it doesn't exist on youtube oh company's gotta stop yeah i went to what tsn.ca slash the shift or whatever it is i watched it from there and the reason they do that uh is because they believe that they want to bring people into the closed universe but that doesn't work like it's like guys you have barred
Starting point is 00:12:02 down i know oh come on i know i know and that's the thing right is that it's just you you kind of go this is this interview is the interview yeah it's the interview so it's hard to find so they spend the first 10 minutes is about his time in san jose and addressing all those things and she asks all the questions that you want to you want to ask evander kane they're all in there in the half an hour that they sit down it's just a matter of if evander kane will answer any of them in a way that is interesting and he'll say anything which he doesn't most of the time but she she they talk about how there's an incident in the athletic report how an assistant coach challenged him to a fight in a power play meeting and they spend like five minutes on this because
Starting point is 00:12:47 the assistant coach takes off his shirt after the power meeting and he comes in the locker room he challenges to to a fight a fist fight a fist fight with no shirt and he's flexing he says evander can fight me and this you can go read the story online and he says all of this is true i don't care who the coach is that's a bad career move yeah but he's for the coach he says all of this is true and the question is like okay what did you do to instigate a coach coming up to you and trying to do this and there's no answer for that and it's continuation of hey this thing happened yeah but i thought it was a joke and i got along with all my teammates and i thought everything in the culture was good so all they keep doing is running through all these storylines
Starting point is 00:13:32 and evander kin's response to everything all of these allegations that his teammates hate him and they went to management is no i got along with them right there's there's no there's no answer to any of this and he's not matching it's not it's not matching up because people aren't just trying to fight you because you're a good teammate people don't want to take off their shirt and walk into a locker room and fight your face off because you're a great guy fight a professional athlete there's no answer from him you're you're so right that okay so this must be difficult to access because this should be the number one thing that everyone's talking about this morning because can you imagine it's fascinating can you imagine if we found out today in an interview
Starting point is 00:14:13 that Randy Carlisle took off his shirt and tried to fight Dion Phaneuf or Phil Kessel or Mikhail Grabowski. Right. Also, I want to look up who the power play coach is of the San Jose Sharks, because that's who I'm guessing it is. I mean, it was in a power play meeting.
Starting point is 00:14:31 They said it. I don't know. That wouldn't be too hard to find. So, yeah, I'm looking at, by the way, I wanted to make sure I was correct. Some of the Shift episodes are available on TSN's YouTube page, although they can be buried.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Others are, it's really tough to find. It's a shame because it's a great show and Kale is brilliant. Yeah, it's a fantastic interview. So this is the question I have. And this is typical. I mean, obviously, from the quote I read you, let me read it one more time, from Daniel Nugent Bowman,
Starting point is 00:14:58 who's such a great reporter for the Oilers. Kane says he didn't get along with every teammate. The narrative that he didn't get along with every teammate in San Jose is false. It says leaks of that narrative came from the dressing room, not him. Quote, that's not good leadership. And then when asked at the press conference today, hey, you know, what would you say to Oilers fans who aren't sure about you?
Starting point is 00:15:18 He said, hey, keep an open mind. Here's the hard part for us, right? And I want to keep an open mind with anybody. I like second chances. I like redemption stories. I like watching people clean it up. I don't like watching them fall. It's extremely uncut.
Starting point is 00:15:30 I know that the public at large really likes a good fall from grace. It's not, when you actually think about what's going on in somebody's life when these situations happen, you think about the crippling amount of debt that this person is in. Just from gambling.
Starting point is 00:15:43 Yeah. Now, that to me is not fun. I don't enjoy that. Right. I want him to win. I want him to turn it around. I want things, you know, I want everybody to kind of like, oh, you know, I went through a shitty time and that was super shitty and I'm going to have to pay for that, but I'm
Starting point is 00:15:55 coming back and I'm going to be great. Well, and that's not about him. That's about you don't want to watch anybody go through that. No. 100%. Yeah. So, I would always want somebody to do well, but I think the problem here is that to do well, you got to own what you are.
Starting point is 00:16:12 and own what you have been and what we're seeing here is public spin it's um it's the same uh it's it's it reminded me that that those quotes jesse remind me of you were the hearing with rafael palmero uh mark mcguire and i think was it ken caminetti or one of those guys they brought him before the senate when they went to congress yeah and mark mcguire or it was clements it was clements because caminetti had already died or uh might have so so was he might have been there there i don't know might have been there is that where robert roger clemens said he misremembered that yes that's exactly what i'm i'm sorry i misremember that yeah and you're like what the fuck are you talking about right you misremember a needle going into your arm you're sure come on
Starting point is 00:16:55 come on roger but rocket yeah so i don't like number one that that he said well you know like listen you put me in a room with 30 people that i'm not going to be best friends with any or all of them i might be best friends with any of them i fucking hate them all no i'm not gonna be best friends with all of them i might be best friends with two or three of them like we have here but i don't have like a uh any situation i've walked into when you when you were in school you're not best friends with every classmate you're not gonna get along with every classmate that's fine that's how nhl teams are yeah so the idea that he quote unquote got along with everybody okay i could i could sort of accept that but with all the stuff that's followed everywhere it's not like
Starting point is 00:17:42 it's not like these teams had these issues when evander kane wasn't there these issues seem to arrive whenever he arrives and it takes a while right like a couple you know they san jose was thrilled with evander kane they signed into that huge contract they had a great quote-unquote leadership group that was going to keep them in line well obviously that at some point those players retired moved on and that that fell apart so in edmonton i think what's going to happen is that he's going to come in he's going to be quiet he's going to play really well and people are going to talk about what a great player he is because he is a great player the problem is that he hasn't owned any of the things that happened in the past if he said you
Starting point is 00:18:24 know what maybe i wasn't always the best teammate is that a much better answer anybody could say that and he would say listen i'm i'm i'm not going to lie to you i wasn't always the best guy i could say that to you guys right now say you know what it wasn't always at my best i nope me neither and that would be a truthful statement i would i would much rather hear that than well it's it's their fault that that i look bad here again or just and they're poor leaders just claiming ignorance i don't know where it comes right he was asked the question directly if he's not uh if he hasn't been held accountable for his actions in the past like kayla asked him that directly and he said you know i've served but i served my time you know i feel like uh nobody
Starting point is 00:19:01 has bared what i've gone through more than me it's my experience he says those things but he doesn't like you said there's no accountability and he even goes on to say that he considered himself a leader amongst uh the players in the locker room especially when he went down to the ahl he said because of what he's gone through he considers himself a leader to the younger guys bro you were there five minutes right and i'm just like i'd love to ask them if you've had any impact on their career for the for the two weeks you were in you remember the barracudas um so there's there's a there's a couple things so kevin kurz was uh he covers the sharks and he i saw something in his today we're basically like kane he arrives to the sharks and he's great
Starting point is 00:19:44 he's great no problems and then the second he signs his contract he's the last to every meeting right interesting now it is interesting but for the oilers purposes if i'm ken holland i hear that and I go, cool. He'll perform for me. Yeah, I'm only concerned about this year. So if he's going to be on the straight and narrow and score 20 goals between now and the end of the season and shut it down for the next team,
Starting point is 00:20:17 I don't give a shit. The Oilers might have nailed this. The Oilers might have just fucking smashed us out of the park because from February... No one wants to talk about that. February to July, you're going to get the best of Ander Cain because he's looking for a giant contract this summer and he's going to be on his best behavior
Starting point is 00:20:33 and he might score a million goals in the next couple months. It'd be awesome. You don't think part of the negotiation was I get to play with one of the two? Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, that's why he would have chosen them
Starting point is 00:20:44 over Colorado and Tampa. Yeah, he's not going to where he has the best chance to win necessarily because he had the option to sign with i think florida was interested tampa was interested he's following the cookies and he i got bad news for everyone who doesn't like him he's gonna get a shitload they've won three straight and at their worst they're still connor mcdavid and leon dry sidle and then hyman's gonna come back and you're gonna be able to do something like kane mcdavid hyman or like kane dry sidle pull your rv like all right oh yeah he's not playing with nuge like he's playing with
Starting point is 00:21:27 one of the big two they got barry and bouchard they're gonna have one of the best power plays in the west like they're going to score are they gonna still allow a lot of goals are they gonna win a lot of games are they gonna have playoff success i don't know what to tell you but he's gonna get a shitload of points guys he the second player the second his deal was signed someone in my pull grab yeah he's a good he's a good player yeah like but but again i'm gonna go check you know i think oh it's a good idea if he's available like i think uh i think he's been stashed since the draft somebody took him in the draft i don't know if they ever dropped him dude my throw him on ir right my league tried to not uh get tony d'angelo and then guys started losing and they're
Starting point is 00:22:15 like well one of the highest scoring defenseman in the league is on waivers so i'm gonna grab him like he's taken oh is he yeah he's been on iris is the draft yeah so there's there's two leagues where just yoink there he is like it listen there's they did the investigation uh no matter what you think of them there's nothing they can do to keep them out of the league and someone was going to sign him. 100%. So here's what I would say. We know the history.
Starting point is 00:22:48 We don't need to go back over the history. What I hope happens here is that it's the last we hear of this stuff. From a human perspective, what I want is for this man to, whatever it is that did happen, turn it around and become
Starting point is 00:23:05 not only the player, but the person that he says he wants to be. yeah you back it up with actions though that's what i hope happens true and uh you know we'll see i mean edmonton edmonton could use that injection of scoring um and i'm sure that he'll come in and i don't think he's gonna be a problem i think he's gonna i think he's gonna be quite happy there this past week has been real good for the battle of alberta by the way oh yeah i think it's gonna come down to them too uh for like what the eighth playoff spot yeah for the bottom i
Starting point is 00:23:38 I think it's going to come down to them two for the fight for the final wild card. Go look at the West, man. It's tight. We looked at it last episode. All you're fighting for. Yeah, but the East is better. Yeah, the East is better, but all you're fighting for is, okay, I don't want to play Colorado, and I'll take anybody else.
Starting point is 00:23:54 Anybody else, I think you have a shot. I wouldn't want to play Vegas. Jack Eichel. You're not jacked about it. Steve Dangle. But you got a shot. i can't wait till he plays too by the way that feels like such a like that's gonna be a fun one soon it's soon it's within the next month about within the next month i think so he would have
Starting point is 00:24:17 been on team usa if they went to the nhl if they went to the olympics like seeing his progress now that he's just at practice last month or so he would have been there who would have been at the olympics it's a shame cj pointed out uh vegas had a game against buffalo february 1st and i don't think this dream will come true but also that's not a good first game back for him i don't think no i don't think that's imagine smart i don't know whatever whatever the next game is take that one yeah you yeah pump them eight one next year if you really want to see we who knows we might see the first ever seven goal game he hates them there's not a lot of players in the So openly hate their former team
Starting point is 00:25:01 He doesn't hate the Sabres He hates management For what they did to his body Good enough It's a little different I don't think he hates the crest I think he hates who's in charge of it I don't think he hates the fans at all
Starting point is 00:25:15 I always thought he embraced Being a Buffalo Sabre Which a lot of guys weren't willing to do And so they Alienated him as hard as they could They never wanted him I'll stick by that. That's the narrative that I look at with the Jack Eichel saga.
Starting point is 00:25:32 They tanked, and they got the other guy, and they've been upset ever since, and it never worked out. And now they're gone. Remember how upset Tim Murray was? Yeah. Connor McDavid was the only person more upset than Tim Murray that day. Yeah, a lot of people were like, oh, come on. Hold those pictures, those two, side by side.
Starting point is 00:25:53 Tim Murray's face and Connor McDavid's face. Nobody got the toy they wanted that day. Nobody. Where do you think McTavill wanted to go? Toronto. That wasn't really a possibility. Yes, it was. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 00:26:03 Oh, no. Toronto was the remaining ball. Oh, yeah. Toronto picked fourth? It was the two balls left in Toronto. It was either Toronto or Buffalo. Yeah, yeah. This close.
Starting point is 00:26:13 Or Toronto or Edmonton. Yeah, they were real. Real silly, Billy close. And then I was there the next year when they won the draft lottery, and I got to hold the card. That was cool. Wonder where that is now. Two in five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer.
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Starting point is 00:27:10 starting at just $1 all day, every day, now until December 31st. You've got to try breakfast at A&W. At participating A&W locations in Ontario. um i'm gonna read you this i'm gonna read you a little uh thing the coyotes are the advanced stages of discussing with arizona state university and arena manager obg facilities of the oakville group to use arizona state university's new multi-purpose arena as their temporary home this will be for the next three to four years it will only seat 5 000 spectators and is significantly smaller than nhl other nhl
Starting point is 00:27:52 arenas, or even Arizona Veterans Memorial Coliseum, which currently sits about 10,000 because some of its risers have been decommissioned. ASU CFO Morgan Olson confirmed talks in a statement Thursday evening. If an agreement for use of our multipurpose arena is finalized, we'd be glad to help the Coyotes by providing a temporary home while their new arena is being built just a couple of miles away. Our new multipurpose arena would benefit from the addition of NHL-level enhancements paid for by the Coyotes that would remain with our building.
Starting point is 00:28:21 We are beyond excited to open this wonderful new ASU arena. This agreement would just make it much more special. And Bill Daly said this, while we have arena standards, we would approach the entire situation in a way intended to accommodate the club's needs in effectuating a successful transition to a new venue. While we may be, while there may be some,
Starting point is 00:28:42 sorry, while there may very well be some, I can't think of any hard and fast rules that couldn't be relaxed to accommodate this and doing what's necessary. thanks bill it's always great to hear you talk so brad marshand tweeted yesterday that the coyotes would have to give away 4500 of those seats in order to get to capacity each night um and that was just a cheap shot uh yeah no uh good for oh oh this is here help me out guys I need your strength.
Starting point is 00:29:16 Good for Brad. Oh, God. Oh, that was really hard for me. Given the estimated cost of building team arenas at ASU, the likely cost of the necessary improvements at the existing facility, and the losses that Morello, the owner, will incur by playing in front of smaller crowds at an arena that will not provide him with a lot of corporate sponsorship money
Starting point is 00:29:38 or ancillary revenue, it's fair to wonder why the Coyotes wouldn't just spend the estimated 40 to 50 million in renovations on the coliseum where they could actually play and practice and the quick answer to that it's too late so if they had uh decided on this earlier and uh known that they were going to be kicked out of gila arena they could have done the renovations on the coliseum and had a place to play but be considering oh look at my watch it's uh january and the season starts in october there's not enough time to do that you can't do a 40 million dollar renovation in six months you know we've we've done a lot of ranting and raving
Starting point is 00:30:16 about teams that are perennially mediocre and you know they're not a good organization and no no the arizona coyotes are the worst run organization in the league like they cannot get the most basic things accomplished ah well you know the rebuild is going really well they got a bunch of draft pit they don't have a place to play not a team you need a building to play in and we're sick of talking about you and i can't let go of the fact that the summer uh heading into the summer where matthews was going to be a restricted free agent there were reports the coyotes were willing to offer him 15 million dollars a year with what with what
Starting point is 00:31:09 i am reminded of a poo from the simpsons when marge suggests they get a babysitter for their octuplets and what would i pay them with banana bread they you don't have money you don't have money for a building priorities alright number one place to god damn play then number two players or something
Starting point is 00:31:38 do these guys have sticks hmm do they have sticks skates holy moses why is it when there is nonsense about not having a building to play in
Starting point is 00:31:54 it is always you i guys can we stop can we stop like we for a long time we talked about the arizona coyotes and just move them this sucks we're sick of it and then their fans said hey we're here we're here and we love them and there are hockey fans in arizona and we said you know what you're right there are hockey fans in arizona we want them to stay and this is the thing that canadians get very smug about there are hockey fans in arizona and there is nowhere for them to sit 5 000 and that number probably is if this plan comes to fruition which uh i'll get to the things that need to happen for this to actually happen if they go with the asu plan the seats of that
Starting point is 00:32:45 seats 5 000 that's going to come down to like 3200 or around 40 4300 because they have to retrofit the arena to make it nhl standard that's going to require to take out some uh seats because they got to build like locker rooms because they can't use the su ones because that's against ncaa regulations and all that and they need to build their own practice facility which is another 10 million dollars but all of this it looks like it it this is their plan if if everything goes to plan but they still need approval to build the tempe arena so they can't do this unless the first part of the plan comes through which is getting approval for a brand new arena in tempe which hasn't been done yet so they don't have a permanent home for this is a three so they would they would
Starting point is 00:33:32 sign here minimum three years but they don't even have so they can't sign this deal until tempe city management approves their new arena because this is a temporary three-year plan while that's being built three years if the city council doesn't approve the tempe arena then this is just out the window this doesn't even matter and they have to find an actual place to play so they'd have to either move cities you have to go somewhere and find a building or they have to write a giant check in an apology letter to uh the city of glendale and gila river arena and try and stay where they are this so that's also an option we could we could be here in a month and the owners of the coyotes just wrote a giant check and said sorry to gila river arena that's also a thing i
Starting point is 00:34:17 I mean, that seems to be their thing. We don't have the money. We don't have the money. Oh, look, we've got it. Right. Oh, we forgot. How did we? Ooh, we forgot our taxes.
Starting point is 00:34:27 Oh, God bless Mike Stevens for writing that for the hockey news. He's on a bit of a tear, our boy Mikey. He's on a heater. He's doing real well. So, first of all, the Arizona Coyotes are literally the series plot of Schitt's Creek if it were about a hockey team. uh second of all i was like 5 000 that's not even enough to be a lot of the top chl teams canadian hockey league teams junior so i googled it
Starting point is 00:35:02 and i found so wait sorry you said uh after it could be as low as like 3500 for some reason 32 ish is what i heard friedman say if they take out the stands and build um locker rooms so so here wait i so i googled it it's all stupid it's very stupid dumb conversation i googled it i googled it and how many chl teams actually have more attendance than that oh god 90 percent here's it and i so i found it from third this 13 14 season uh it's six teams you want to hear them Missouri, Wichita, Tulsa, Rapid City Allen and Quad City Wait a sec, this is the Central Hockey League
Starting point is 00:35:48 Which is purely a thing It's not even the Canadian Hockey League Holy fuck The Arizona Coyotes don't exist They don't exist They honest to God don't exist Steve just spit everywhere Yes I did
Starting point is 00:36:03 Scrap it No Guys, fuck I'm so sorry i'm so sorry i'm genuinely sorry come be leaf fans yeah listen you're already miserable yeah be cold miserable yeah be miserable with us be cold wet a lot of a lot of us instead of hot dry miserable yeah variety it's the spice of life you don't even have to leave arizona not a team disgraceful not a team that's unbelievable like you're you're getting did you find the
Starting point is 00:36:37 chl actual number no because i was so stuck on oh my god the allen city whatever the fuck in the central hockey league in the central what level of hockey is that i don't even know there's a team called arizona that got 2600 the arizona watts roadrunners brampton got 2200 by the way speaking of places where hockey just does not friggin work Brampton they tried to shove every team in the world in there people you look at the populations of the west end of the GTA and you're like oh things can work there but it's not how it would work in the east if they put a team in Durham another team in Durham it would work if it was the edge of Scarborough anything like that it would work it's just not
Starting point is 00:37:23 accessible do you mind just turn down my headphones a little bit no I was trying to turn up mine I think I turned up yours yeah I was like all of a sudden Mike Steve's extremely loud I'm in your kitchen subwoofer guy man uh canadian hockey league attendance like dude you're gonna play what what shitty mighty ducks movie knockoff is this and and and by the way the next time somebody gets on he goes well matthew's gonna leave for arizona yo he might leave but it isn't gonna be arizona it's gonna be it's gonna be new york los angeles las vegas maybe a team in florida but he's probably going to stay in toronto because toronto's going to pay him what he wants yeah like just like enough with that enough with that chat he's not going to
Starting point is 00:38:10 arizona if they don't have an arena so i don't know what league or sorry what year this is from but like here's the top four the quebec rem parts 9200 wow that's pretty big the london knights 8,997 so 9,000 the Halifax Mooseheads 8,100 the Edmonton Oil Kings there's an NHL team in that market
Starting point is 00:38:35 7,600 that's average attendance that's what it says on Dr. Wikipedia who knows if it's actually true here's Quebec just the Quebec League there's three teams
Starting point is 00:38:48 that get more the Quebec Rampart at 92 the Halifax Mooseheads at 81 Moncton the Wildcats Moncton Wildcats 5100 so basically if they were getting 3500 fans a game this is if they sold
Starting point is 00:39:05 it out by the way they would have a comparable attendance to the Rimouski Oceanic not a team that's Crosby's team right? yes it is well and everyone else well it's Frederick Gauthier what that does
Starting point is 00:39:19 what that does is it creates an issue where when jeremy jacobs gets on tv and says hockey can't work in quebec city because of the lack of sponsorship opportunities one asks oneself how is that possible when arizona exists yeah like the coyotes exist not arizona the state arizona the coyotes you could you could literally just go whoop whoo and throw them in that building that they have in even if they broke even the escrow goes down less money goes into equalization payments even if they lost money they would lose less yeah we're done here tomorrow they would lose less tomorrow and and i listen i'm a guy who's not even i'm like quebec city's like number five on my list of teams you got to do
Starting point is 00:40:05 houston kansas hambleton they all come first but if you put it in quebec because they seem to be the most ready instantly so there's some other but obviously they're not gonna do like they're not they don't care about canadian like a cincinnati you know you you have uh you have the blue jackets like cincinnati could work like other there's so many markets and like the way i see this playing out is okay the tempeh thing i think it'll get approved i think they'll get their new arena in tempeh and then they go to a temporary home that's not asu and probably in a different market in a different uh part of the country like i see houston maybe taking the coyotes for two years nah i don't think it's gonna be i think that's a wonderful idea and i think it might be
Starting point is 00:40:51 yeah we're just what i'm i i'm shocked with gary betman and bill daly are an enigma to me because they are so unaccommodating with anything reasonable and yet with the most unreasonable thing we've ever seen in the nhl which is a professional nhl team playing in a 5 000 seat arena because club ownership couldn't pay their taxes on time couldn't figure stuff out got booted this is all because of their own doing their own they did this they have a home right now and they're getting booted from yes they did this to themselves i have and yet you know it's like You ask them about concussions or Kyle Beach, and they could not be less accommodating.
Starting point is 00:41:35 But Arizona, no, no, no. Listen, we're pumped about them playing on a university campus. I don't know what you're talking about. Why aren't you more excited about it? What's wrong with you? Yeah, Rick, this is All-Star Weekend. I can't answer these questions now. Oh, okay, I'll call you where you won't take my question.
Starting point is 00:41:52 Yes. Pierre Lebrun guilts you into doing it. By the way. It's crazy. I don't know what to do here. Are you reading more? no no the best i could do was find a list of the top 13 and it's still like it's more dude it's they're not a team not a team and it's not fair because their fans are fans yes yes but they're
Starting point is 00:42:13 fans for a non-existent team sorry like that doesn't value them yeah like so the the conversation around jacob chickren has been funny because supposedly the coyotes are looking at trading them and one of the teams that's interested is columbus i always hear uh i think it's frigin merrick on 32 thoughts talk about this why is columbus in on this like they're not gonna make the playoffs this year and the reason they're in on it is because he's good in 23 and they're not getting the free agents this is how they gotta get these guys but he's locked up to term they do not need to trade this person they don't need to trade this player which is part of the reason they're gonna get such a windfall for him but are they trading him i think they're just trading him to
Starting point is 00:42:54 get every it's it's not even to get every asset it seems like they're selling so hard they're not a team that's preparing for a rebuild they're preparing for a sale everything must go but you you can't have layoffs like you do at some of these big corporations so you just trade every hockey player you just get rid of every hockey player and your arena and your arena and everything must go and you don't pay your taxes like i don't know last game of the season just take one of the seats like just take one of the seats you take a piece of arizona history because you're not going to get another game no giller river they don't deserve that yeah they're not fans of the coyotes either they hate them they want them all right leave the seats yeah leave this okay no no i'm
Starting point is 00:43:46 doing this for the fans these i'm not encouraging vandalism give them stickers give them something to remember this but they're not a team 3500 not a team the the precedence for this thing happening is the los angeles chargers who when moving from san diego to la they went from a football stadium 50 000 to 100 000 if you're jerry world in dallas to a 27 000 seat soccer stadium but 27 000 is it's 50 of their former 50 000 seat stadium but it's still 27 000 people and they could have just stayed in san diego for a couple more years because it's like a two-hour drive yeah they're like no no no this was also a situation where the city and the team didn't get along and the owners in the city so they got kicked out of san diego move over to los angeles like we'll
Starting point is 00:44:37 take that thank you and then now they're tenants in the rams stadium so they share it with the the rams but anyway that's the precedent that moving from a 20 soccer stadium from a football stadium but this is comes something completely different 3 500 people it's a high school i the arizona coyotes take on the york lions tonight like fucking it's pathetic sorry yes so what'll be great is that again every time we bring up the coyotes in the arena situation i'm reminded of the very first episode of the Steve Dangle podcast that we ever did. And if you're a first time,
Starting point is 00:45:14 a lot of people, it's like the first episode of this SDP is like Woodstock. Everybody says they were there. There was only about 1,500 people. It's so true. Okay? Yeah, no, it was the Jimi Hendrix set.
Starting point is 00:45:25 Yeah, yeah. I watched Jimi Hendrix play while the sun came up. Well, that was the Who set. Yeah, I did it. No, you didn't see it. The tent that you left there saw it. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:34 So there was like 1,500 people, I think, that listened to that episode total. I think, and we were, that was far better than we thought we would do but we talked about and one of the questions i had i thought it would do great at the question we had at the time was when are we going to get to stop talking about the coyotes in their arena that's one of the questions i raised on the first episode of this show is may 2013 may 31st 2013 to be exact like we are nine years almost into this show nine can you believe that and we were talking about a thousand episodes yet probably
Starting point is 00:46:10 we were talking about his mike smith over the have we done a thousand yeah don't we do like 150 a year no no we do 130 now we do 130 yeah now we do 130 but it used to be like 92 to 100 a year so i don't know i don't know if we've hit a thousand yet probably not big bunch big old bunch the reality is here we are almost a thousand later almost a decade later i have been married and divorced and we're still talking about it we made people yeah multiple people there are two people who didn't used to be here who are now here who are definitely here and running around predates them pooping all over the place oh yeah you know or in the case of my kid constipation oh great hey it's great i just oh but they're wonderful there are they are they are you know
Starting point is 00:47:02 it's great at the end of the day here we're just wondering why why why and so anyway long story short i i i want this to be over as as much as you do but i gotta be honest with you it ain't going anywhere it will never go away here as long as the coyotes are in arizona this will never not be a problem here's uh here i got a great way to make money and then you can add some seats sell the franchise records back to the Jets. They're not yours. No, they're not. They're not. Stop it.
Starting point is 00:47:33 No, they're not. It's a joke. It's a joke that they're even associated. Yes. It's a joke. Yeah. No, it's not. Shut up. Stop.
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Starting point is 00:48:52 want to say it's sober full speed somewhere torts is just pissed in a corner getting ready to go on tv yes did he have it oh my god so adam didn't even know this is the amazing thing people made that joke and then someone tweeted me like hey i don't know if you saw but like he did oh yeah Let's hear it. Double down. Let's hear it. On his not good take. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Yeah, Jesse's pulling it up right now. Zgris, so as I kill time, the kids are changing the game, man. And DownGoesBrown had a tweet last night or this morning. The easier this move gets for players, and it's getting easier, the more it's going to destroy awful, boring defensive systems that have basically held down the sport for decades. Yes. So that's great.
Starting point is 00:49:44 Fantastic. I think it's absolutely fantastic. Somebody will find a way to fuck this up, though. Who knows? It might be the guy we're about to play. But can you imagine if he gets back in the league and the thing he's famous for, like every coach has their thing, is he finds a way to fuck up the Michigan?
Starting point is 00:50:02 Can't wait. Me neither. The fact that Zegers did it at full speed and in front of an empty building also like there's just so many visuals to do with it you know it was so smooth so smooth it gave berkshire something to talk about i'm going on soon are you yeah it's not confirmed so i won't say the date but soon oh that's cool i like that the the he always does it after i go to bed including the weekends because i go to bed so early so i i haven't had the chance but i do need to go on i want to go on all right
Starting point is 00:50:38 This is John Tortorella on Trevor Zegers' Michigan. No, go for it. And that's where the game is going. I just don't want us to lose all the good stuff with the foundation of the National Hockey League. I don't know what that means. That's all I'm trying to say. Well, Canadian media, if you're going to report on this,
Starting point is 00:50:53 make sure you use everything. Oh, dude, they can kiss my ass as far as I'm concerned. Wow. No, go for it. Just the Canadian media? There's got to be. I'm sorry, was it only Canadians that attacked Tortorella about this? No.
Starting point is 00:51:05 No, that's Arda being cheeky. And I'm sure it's based on rants Torts had behind the scenes. Hey, Arda watches this show. Arda. Arda's a good guy. What are you doing, Arda? Does Arda watch the show? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:16 What's up, Arda? And I always see Arda liking tweets and stuff like that. We see you, Arda. Yeah, I feel bad. You're throwing the Canadian media thing in there, though, Arda. We know what you're doing. You want the full minute? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:27 That one's cheeky because you clip it where he says, don't clip this. Yeah. Here you go. Oh. It's a little bit different than the goal him and Sonny scored. i think it's a different play um yeah all the idiots out there that blew up my phone from the first game saying i don't enjoy skill that is a skill play this is skill here also i i just want us to be careful as far as what it all goes to and what does that mean it's in the rule book you
Starting point is 00:51:58 can do it it's in the rule book what does it mean uh and i'm are you essentially saying that you don't want hockey to become a like a series of circus type shots the fundamentals still need to be there but it's totally okay when the opportunity presents great question absolutely and that's maybe i'm not explaining myself right no skill is fantastic i just i just want us to be careful as far as where it goes to from here where would what do we lose what does that mean what does that mean as a lacrosse player cradling going down the ice is that allowed you know what do you think that you don't want to slap into creativity, though. Absolutely not.
Starting point is 00:52:35 And I'm not saying that. I just don't want us to lose what the National Hockey League is about. I don't want it to... There's a lot of other really good, hard parts of the game. I don't want us always focusing on that. It's a tremendous fight. Is that door...
Starting point is 00:52:55 That's the person recording it, right? Somebody is recording this off of their TV. I was like, Slenderman is about to... come through the door that's why the audio sounds like it's like in your head or whatever i'm like is natalie in the next room like what's happening here somebody's filming their tv okay all right that's happening in their house someone listening to this in the car was like what the yeah anyways take what do you think that i think it was a bad segment dude it's arda trying to pull something out of tour that's interest that that you're teasing something that could be interesting
Starting point is 00:53:29 give me something interesting you know it'd be great he just he looks at his shoes and he kicks the dirt and fucking from an entertaining perspective torch should have just doubled down and been like you know what i feel like we're losing the game great all right towards i'm in tell me but what do you guys what does that's what he thinks but it is what he thinks steve because that's how he ends the conversation i don't know what he's like he's like it's a highly scored uh play maybe but uh i just want to make sure where's it going i mean it's in the rules But we don't know And what if we lose
Starting point is 00:54:00 The fundamentals of the game What fundamentals John Are we going to stop skating Are we going to stop Handling a puck Here's a lacrosse thing That has nothing to do With this
Starting point is 00:54:08 Because lacrosse Is played with a basket At the end of a stick And a rubber ball Not a twig And a fucking puck It's like So it's a bad segment
Starting point is 00:54:18 Because torts What torts needed to do Was be torts Roar out and be like No I'm old school And I hate it Here's why Arda And Arda does a great job
Starting point is 00:54:27 Of trying to pull it out he finally does yeah but yeah if i'm the producer i'm like torts man you're old school go and be old school yeah and then and then and then he and then arda gets him when he says well the canadian media oh they can kiss my ass no but you know the only reason that the canadian media can kiss torts's ass because we're the only one that pays attention to what you're saying the most damning thing i could say about what torts said is it's not that uh he didn't say anything it's that one person tweeted at me last night that that's what i'm saying no one cares what he has to say if you're old school fine like kenry we love ken ken tweets some old school shit i'm like i completely
Starting point is 00:55:07 disagree with that but i fucking love ken and i'd kiss him on the mouth and he's the best and he tells it in a compelling way yeah he's compelling he's compelling in any room he walks in yeah i always tell the thing about him talking about room like he might have said that on the podcast but he was telling me that at, like, Easter Seals function a few months ago. Room! Dangle, get over here. And he brings me over to Tiger Williams. Tiger, tell him about room.
Starting point is 00:55:31 And did I tell you about that? Yeah, I think you have. Making room on the ice. Yeah, being tough. Making room. You've talked about that. He's just, you've got to get your point across. You're a coach.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Like, this isn't a media thing. This isn't a, hey, this is a guy who, you know, he's brought in because he knows hockey, and he's a coach. what do coaches do other than get their point across you're saying something what do you mean uh oh don't know what you mean fart that's that's what i mean pass wind i want him i want if torts is going to do that i want there to be when torts talks and and he and he comes to his old cool old school perspective i want to i want a bunch of guys in oakley twitter accounts going hell yeah torts i agree and then i want a bunch of other people going fucking wait this guy's crazy this
Starting point is 00:56:19 is so boring why would we want this i want that debate i like that because there are a significant amount of hockey fans who agree with john they do lean into it john here's here's a canadian then i'll kiss your ass if you could i don't have to agree with you but if you put together a good segment i'll kiss your ass yeah you know what man i've been doing this for 15 years i get a lot of really really really nice comments and a lot of really really really mean ones and not a ton of eh. You're not mid. You're not a mid guy.
Starting point is 00:56:54 I am not the Midwest. I am not MJF. No. Anyway, I... Can you turn me up a little bit? Sorry. Thank you. Sorry, I was adjusting everything. I think it's because I was doing this and screaming about the coyotes.
Starting point is 00:57:10 Is that good? It's spitting, too. I think I might have had something to do with it. If anybody, if SDPN Memes catches that and just it just slow down the spit you can do a slow down by the way well it happens every episode that was just a particularly big when you said whiskey out the bottle did you see the uh collaboration with kid rock that he put you on drinking whiskey out the bottle yes it's really good yeah yeah me and kid rock yeah staking for each other all the time you guys have a lot
Starting point is 00:57:37 in common yeah i don't know about these vaccines let's do uh what why steve yeah thank you the steve dangle press conference let me tell you something about my friend brandon um anyway anyway um we were talking about the first episode of the sdp and we're talking about how many people were there um right now as of right now you can't listen to this um because it's not public anymore but the first episode of the sdp has 12 000 listens wow over time over time exactly who knows how many people listen to that within the first week yeah i remember it being roughly a thousand yeah yeah it was a thousand i remember that i remember being like wow and then i said to steve what if one day we're doing like 20 000 an episode and steve said to me that's never gonna
Starting point is 00:58:29 happen yeah i did say that and now it's roughly 75 80 000 uh is it somewhere in there yeah see because i see the youtube yeah but the audio all the time wow holy shit what no so let's talk about how many press conference let's talk about the coyotes arenas sorry all right so cole on uh the sdp podcast talk server on our discord listen to us in a whole new way that nobody has ever listened to us so cole has a vr system and he fired up a game called golf plus in the metaverse and he's listening to us on a driving range in the metaverse no so he's at the golf course he's uh there's like a lounge chair area and he has our video on in the metaverse while he's waiting uh to go take another shot at the driving range in the vr world that's and he's watching the
Starting point is 00:59:34 podcast this is not what i thought you were gonna say at all no did you know that you can be a real estate agent in the metaverse now and you make actual commission oh god people are making tens of thousands of bucks selling houses in the metaverse let me put this on the screen guys the houses in the real world are expensive like just sell well the meta metaverse houses are cheaper so you can get a nicer house you can live like bill gates in the metaverse oh my god yo that's crazy that's kind of cool is that that's the first confirmed metaverse case so i think this is the first confirmed instance of the steve dangle podcast existing in the meta can we create like a steve dangle broadcast hub in the metaverse is there is that possible where like sdpn fans can
Starting point is 01:00:20 come hang out and then when a show is on we can like have it it could be like a bar and there's like tvs in the background playing the stuff and and if you if you're a fan and somebody else is a fan they're the other side of the world you can meet them there we can't do that yet but we're gonna do something interesting in the coming weeks okay i'm not i don't know if i'm supposed to say anything or if this is supposed to be public information but you're if you're a fan of minecraft there might be a way that a bunch of people who like the stpn get together in like it's kind of your idea but it's a little different it's not really the metaverse it's just minecraft now that the minecraft thing had nothing to do with me but i think it's brilliant but i have
Starting point is 01:00:57 heard that you can do some creative stuff in minecraft if you want to have fun with your friends so i'm all about having fun discord yeah join discord you might have a minecraft invitation the metaverse thing i know it's super like i know people are like oh it's so stupid and like i get it but i also am intrigued by it i can't lie i am intrigued by the possibilities uh that the metaverse can create i i think the problem with the metaverse is the first person that most people heard about it from was mark zuckerberg and that instantly people go but i bet it existed far by far before facebook had a plan for it and i i i'm curious about what it's going to be very curious yeah mark zuckerberg has definitely not a vampire energy hey let's do
Starting point is 01:01:43 I got a tweet last night I forget who tweeted it but I wanted to ask the question I forgot to screenshot the tweet so I apologize Nazem Qadri is on pace for 113 points this season he is a UFA at the end of the year
Starting point is 01:02:00 what happens with Nazem Qadri's next contract a lot of money to play for his childhood team the Montreal Canadiens that's a good one I've called this for a long time this i've called this for a long time he's going home well home is london ontario but he's going to montreal they do they need him they need him real bad he's not i mean colorado can't keep him
Starting point is 01:02:26 that's what nas and cadre is a big reason why they're all in this year because they're gonna lose them they had a big summer with like they could have lost their captain could have lost landis cog they could have lost a bunch of guys they um did a great job with that kelba car contract to get him locked up can you imagine if they waited she's making nine i got news no no no no it's two digits actually um yeah no they have to go all in because they're gonna lose nas to the i think montreal canadians wow this next question is a trivia question from swiss now do you guys want to compete against each other or put your brains together rocket twin powers activate uh sure we could do that okay okay brains together on this one
Starting point is 01:03:18 what is the only nhl team that currently owns three top five picks that is three of the players selected between first and fifth overall from any draft and who are the players sorry there's only one nhl team that has three top five picks and those uh so picks one through five and from any given draft who are the players what's the team well this one's easy you go ahead i have no idea at least is it at least yeah matthews tavaris marner answer no so the swiss says the answer is uh no it needs to be from the same draft oh yeah i i missed that part well from the same draft richie wasn't top three or top five was he no he was like 10th or something um top five i'll even give you the position so this team owns players from the first overall slot the second overall
Starting point is 01:04:19 slot and the fourth overall slot from the same year i think i know what this is and i'm gonna be mad when i don't get it i remember thinking about this and no it can't be that it's actually a really good question this is a good one what do you guys think from the same draft all right okay yeah we really got to put our heads together here i'll give you this it's this decade it's within the last 10 years i know it i know give it to us the 2014 draft from philadelphia did i mention that i was at the 2014 draft amazing amazing this is the florida panthers who have first overall pick aaron ekblad second overall pick sam reinhardt and fourth overall pick sam bennett wow look at the big brain on brad yeah thanks adam thanks for coming out listen somebody
Starting point is 01:05:20 had to be here for the looks that was really good i'm shocked you got that me too wow me too i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm never shocked when you get obscure shit like that there's no way i feel like no matter how good the panthers are we always forget about them well they were forgettable for 20 years yeah dude i still like it was like pavel burry's it was it was that they went to the cup final and then van beesbrook left and then pavel burry and then they've won and then recently since they went to the Stanley Cup Final, I think they have Do they have a playoff series win? A single playoff series win?
Starting point is 01:05:54 No. Not one. I think they won a qualifying round. I can't remember against who. One of the most damning stats of the franchise is career playoff wins. Or no, sorry. Career playoff games played
Starting point is 01:06:09 by Roberto Luongo as a member of the Florida Panthers. Six. Poo. Must suck. oh my god he lost at the hands of john tavarez in the new york islander yep next question comes from for adam wild adam wild yesterday on agent provocateur you spoke with paul gagne yes very interesting episode uh there was one part i really loved where alan and paul talked about how they used to run these camps during the summer in montreal and these camps became the place to be in the summer for hockey players because they would just bring in the best czech players and
Starting point is 01:06:46 the best french canadian players and they would all just scrimmage every friday and then hire nhl referees for it and they'd hire real referees they'd book out an arena and then guys started calling alan being like hey can i get in on this right great game so uh so can you talk about that episode that's out now so they were octagon and alan alan's agent agency before that where octagon bought alan and his partner out um and brought him into the octagon fold they were one of the first groups that set players up with um training in the offseason and so paul gagne is a posturologist and i didn't even know that was the thing but what he does is he starts with your feet and literally works his way up your body and he he talks about in the episode about how you know
Starting point is 01:07:29 training is terrible posture so i'm working on it like training is so much different for um a hockey player versus like a soccer player he's like you know you see some training videos from the 70s and everybody's like doing bench and he's like yeah and he's like and then and then they were talking about too how um uh uh like in the 90s up until the 90s like uh the offseason like the best players the players who were most fit were the players on the fourth and third lines the players who would like smoke cigarettes in between the periods were and and didn't didn't have a muscle to speak of were the highly skilled ones lemieux lemieux yeah yeah yeah and now it's completely different like they're all like in tip-top unbelievable amazing shape and and i think
Starting point is 01:08:12 that's what's so fascinating i expected i expect people to be hesitant about an episode like this i expect you to be like why would i want to listen to that and i have to tell you if you're a real hockey fan if you're true like if you're truly like uh um if you're one of those people that's there's no saving you there's no coming back from this the nuts and bolts this is the kind of stuff that i love and jesse loves we were talking about this alan love diving deep on i don't expect everybody to love this episode but to me it's like give me a snapshot of what their day-to-day is like yeah tell me what it's like to train like these guys and you know imagine you're you're you come from that culture of in the late 90s guys are just you know crushing beers
Starting point is 01:08:54 and smoking cigarettes and golfing. And then all of a sudden they're like, no, you should train. And you should work out the whole summer. And imagine Alan trying to tell a bunch of millionaires that, right? And the shift that's happened in the last 20 years in hockey and in sports and everything is amazing.
Starting point is 01:09:10 I loved it. I absolutely loved listening to that. It was great. I haven't heard it yet. I will listen on the way home. Okay, amazing. I was listening to Noxie and Kat. Oh, haven't heard of them.
Starting point is 01:09:20 They're very, very good. They're pretty great. tonight on the stream 6 p.m eastern twitch.tv slash sdpn live game one of the stanley cup final leafs colorado avalanche who in the game are a very good team and i'm a little worried about our crappy beliefs who is the starting goalie for the fictional colorado avalanche uh i forget i don't remember off the top of my head i looked at their rosters at the end of the stream we went through it but i forget their goalie why what was the no i just wanted to know which goalie will beat you this time wow uh in game seven man he got that one vasilevsky series
Starting point is 01:10:07 oh my god oh yeah i got job okay so yeah before we go i want to bring up this one last thing oh and i actually wish i brought it up earlier but uh i i didn't bring it up earlier sebastian jackson tweeted us and uh he says he's a day one listener he said i'm a day one listener of the podcast remember discovering it when i had food poisoning in college and actually i remember that because i've i've been sebastian messaged me like early early on on facebook uh was really complimentary really nice he said i'm a black man trying to fit in this game i'm also one of the people who helped with the get uncomfortable pledge with black girl hockey um you know this season has been, this last week's been tough with the racist incidents and BIPOC speaking out.
Starting point is 01:10:48 He's like, our inboxes and mentions are filled with some hurtful racist messages. He said the most hurtful racist messages imaginable. Makes getting in the morning really challenging and hard. Would like to know what your plans are to honor black lives and hashtag Black History Month. Last year, I suggested Adam's Black History Month corner, but I never heard back. Now, I don't remember that, but it's entirely possible I just missed the thing because my inbox is is my my dms are a little flooded we've missed a lot the last couple certainly have so he said i think it'd be really cool to hear uh about um about that history corner can be more than just traditional white history and he's absolutely right about that anyway thanks for reading um
Starting point is 01:11:27 and so uh what i'm going to pledge to do is i'm going to do four i'm going to i'm going to do some research because i'm not going to just do it off the top of my head i'm going to do some research and i'm going to try to find and i will be easily able to find four different history makers within the realm of sports that are really going to surprise you for black history month so once a week every every once a week is that fair week in the month let's do that that's a fun idea yeah i think so sebastian i want to thank you for shouting that out because i'm excited it's a history project for me yeah yeah uh and because i love that we are looking for some ways to like celebrate black history month obviously that's a perfect integration so thank you uh sebastian
Starting point is 01:12:06 for suggesting that. So that's what we're going to do. Is that cool? Big fan. Fucking go. I don't know. Let's call it Black History Month. Let's fucking go.
Starting point is 01:12:16 I don't know. Brought to you by the STPN. What do you want me to say? Let's fucking do this shit. Sponsored by Nickelodeon. Fucking go. Nickelodeon puts a... This is a complete aside,
Starting point is 01:12:27 but you mentioned... Nickelodeon broadcasts NFL games once a week. I know. It's amazing. They do an incredible job. They do so good. it's so good oh they're nailing it and they also when they score a touchdown it's slime comes out
Starting point is 01:12:41 it's so cool i love that i love that it's really they have uh young sheldon explain penalties yes so they have a they've young sheldon explaining each penalty so when like a holding happens a pop-up of a young sheldon comes and he does this is holding do you know why that's so fucking brilliant they're getting kids into the game oh yeah they're making football fun for kids The NFL is getting kids, like, at the youngest age. Yes! NHL! You should be paying Nickelodeon to take your games.
Starting point is 01:13:12 Miss Persona explains holding. I love that. Blippi explains offside. Kids, you can't hit players in a vulnerable position along the boards. The integration is CBS owns Nickelodeon. So whenever there's a CBS game once a week, they do that. but like cbc is out here chilling like do a kid's show on cbc oh my god i want gary the unicorn to explain offside i love that idea i want it so bad i love that idea if you're american look up gary
Starting point is 01:13:45 the unicorn i love that idea another show i'd like to go on wow there it is let's fucking go let's absolutely fucking go i i it's hard to disagree with the two of you when you say let's fucking go so make it three of us let's fucking go show title LFG yeah
Starting point is 01:14:05 there it is there it is there it is okay well we love you have a phenomenal weekend we will see you Monday let's fucking go Bessie Blake.
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