The Steve Dangle Podcast - Louis Domingue | January 17, 2018

Episode Date: January 18, 2018

On this episode, Steve is sad (00:00), THE LEAFS LOST AND STEVE IS EXTRA SAD (14:00), Kid Rock is playing the NHL All Star Game (49:00), Corey Crawford could be done for the season (1:01:00), Shane Doan might have been right! (1:18:00), and the press conference; Checkers & Seabrook (1:36:00). Originally aired: January 17, 2018 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/yj8ipvR1EWk Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Subscribe to us on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/steve-dangle-podcast/id669828195?mt=2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Panago Pizza presents S.T.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde. Well, hello again. I have a tweet for you. I don't. We're going to start the show with this. You actually miss 0% of the shots you don't take. That's how percentages work. Wayne Gretzky is a huge dumbass.

Wait, what? So you've heard the quote, you miss 100%. Who the hell said that? You actually missed 0% of the shots you don't take. That's how percentages work. Wayne Gretzky is a huge dumbass. It's from, he calls himself Miller Lowlife. It was 3-0.

At it was 3-0. I don't know, I've never heard of his Twitter account before, but that's really funny. I saw another one, I think it was Bobby Cappuccino, he was talking about, you know that amazing shift Matthews had against the Blues where he just had the puck on a string for like a solid 15 seconds or something like that? he's like, well, he actually generated

zero courses on that play, so it was actually bad. I just love it. Hey, you gotta laugh or you're gonna cry. Yeah, absolutely. They've lost a bunch. Well, I mean, and also, I mean, Steve, we're talking about you here.

You're close to tears. Yeah. I talked to Steve last night, Jesse, and Steve is sad. Before we get into the Leafs, this is pre-Leaf game. Steve is sad, Jesse. look how much he cares

Jesse exhaled a little bit there as though he's like this is probably not going to be worth me listening to this yeah tell me something new he gave me a look that very much said this guy it's not about the fact that they broke his phone it's not about that that was the price that they agreed upon this time it was about

his microphone Steve's been testing out a new microphone we think it'll sound better for him on TV we've both been on him about it a little bit like hey give this a shot So Steve, Jesse, is upset because the microphone, I told him, sounded like AM radio in the 1980s. Oh, the story starts so much before that. It starts before that.

Does it start before that? Because what I would like to say is that I was a little surprised at how upset Steve got after going to Henry's twice to get new mic equipment. Well, because we haven't talked about when I went to Henry's the first time. All right. Oh, this is good. So the first time I went to Henry's, which is a... It's already such a long story. Camera and audio store.

Jesus. Wow, Jesse. Go ahead. Entertain me. What are you going to be like as a dad? Your kids are like, okay, dad, I'm going to give this speech up to my grade one class tomorrow. First line, no, grammar sucks. Try again.

They let you graduate kindergarten? I have no son If my kid doesn't breathe properly I'm going to be disappointed Future children get it right If you're listening to this Daddy I do social media for Tim and Sid

I'm a huge success What have you ever done I am Jesse Blake What's it going to take for me To get my name in the friggin intro I am resentful of that I am taking it out of my own child! It would actually take us

just buying a new intro. We have to get one produced. You know what? We could be using the same one for five years. I also just found out today, someone tweeted it at me, so my Twitter background is this nice photo of me and Adam and we're engaged in a hockey fight and you're the referee between us and I discovered that when you

click on my page, my new profile picture just goes right over your head. No, I saw But it's only on like their browser kind of or whatever Not for most people but so what you're saying is a funny picture. Okay, it's a sense fantasy like Anyways, my kids won't complain when a little microphone doesn't work. I know that So anyway, you went to see I'm on the phone with Steve. Yes, and he's on

is waiting no no the first time you're on your way to henry's because i was on the phone with you ben too oh remember i forgot it's been a long time because you you you went to henry's and i was like hey what are you so you're getting a microphone you're like yeah microphone and didn't you forget something uh oh my god yeah i forgot it was even before that so i'm on my way to the store and I'm there. I'm almost there and I realized I forgot my computer while I'm on the phone with Adam

and so I'm like, turn around. You need your computer if you're going to hook up a mic to your computer. You didn't need your computer. Just to test everything out. Ironically, I didn't end up using it once I got there. You could have just told them what kind of computer you have. Yeah, but they also have to show you how it works. I wanted to demonstrate and I wanted to figure it out.

So it's important. It's important. Listen, Jesse. No, it's not. You're not practical learners. if you're gonna stop me every time i say something that seems stupid to you this story is going to take a very long time it's already at that point i'm just not a very smart person anyway okay so then i go back and i impulse bought 700 worth of equipment okay

i bought a tripod i don't have a tripod how ridiculous is it that i have a youtube channel like for a living and i don't have a bunch of textbooks from university i have my desk a shoe box a canadian dictionary a george carlin book and a pack of hockey cards that goes underneath the camera lens so that it doesn't tip that is my setup 10 years yeah they're 11 now yeah yeah keep going so that's what adam was looking at me like i'm diseased like you can't believe what he just heard okay so you bought the 700 with the stuff uh i got a ring light like one of those light so you you put the light on the tripod and then you put the camera in on the mount in the lights. The camera's in the middle

of this ring light and you can turn on four different quadrants. Because Steve's lighting before that was a Pixar lamp. Oh, it still is. So. Because I tried the microphone, hated it, tried the light, thought it looked stupid, so I took almost all of it back. I kept the

tripod. I need a tripod. I took the light back. The light was $250. So I was more than happy to take it back. Yeah, oh yeah. So anyway, and I took the microphone back because it sucked and I was frustrated. So but you didn't talk about your trip

the first time so while we're packing up your $700 worth of stuff my $700 purchase after he was showing you how to work it

because you brought your laptop the guy at the store was taking apart everything after he built it all up after he built it all up and I decided

well I'll help him so I bent down And I heard a sound That basically went Oh this My pants split Crotch to knee Wow

If you think that is not Hammed up at all Look at it on the Wow That's like a foot right Wow I Adam can you describe it

For people who are listening What I would say is that Okay so look at the If you're wearing jeans or pants Right now you look at your fly Okay Halfway up your fly To your knee

Ripped Imagine right along the seam At the front Right where the fun bits are Is where Steve's pants are ripped I am so thankful That I chose to wear Tight underwear that day

I wear boxer briefs And I didn't know there was Another choice by the way Well some people just like Free flowing You wear like SpongeBob underwear

Boxers Yeah SpongeBob underwear Those ones when you're like Twelve and you wear like Family get like Boxers I imagine Steve still wears them

Well if you're gonna get it It has to be Patrick underwear It can't be SpongeBob Some days you wanna breathe and I think you need a little support I mean anyway

you got your axe body de-shirt yeah and your doopity-doo hair gel my frosted tips man

and my Carl Canai jeans anyway so Steve's been to Henry's all of two times and he's depressed because he can't

seem to figure out why the microphone doesn't work and I talked to him like well did they hook you up with a compressor and he's like I don't even know

what a compressor is so I went back and got another microphone uploaded a test a bunch of people were like hey I like it others were like no I don't like it as much

and Adam just goes oh that sounds like shit it did after I've dedicated like six or seven hours just to trying to get the mic at the right level over the past two days and finally I just with that comment was like

welp wipe your ass with the last two days Steven cause you got nothing nothing accomplished here's what you're up you're up a tripod and you're down a pair of pants. I know what Jesse's thinking right now. I know where you're going with this.

What? Where are you going? I know exactly where I'm going with this. Where are you going? I'm going back to Henry's tomorrow to return that mic. Jesse, what would you say? Six or seven hours. Oh, wow.

Two trips to Henry's. You accomplish nothing by trying things and seeing what works. That's complete bullshit. He should go back to his hockey cards. Go back to the hockey card tripod. Yeah, yeah. All I know, like, what?

Well, that's what I did for today's video. That's what I did. What I love about this, and here's what I understand it as. You're upset because you couldn't figure this out. I'm upset because I couldn't figure out, and I'm upset that there's anything to figure out. The microphone in my camera, which granted is shit, I know that. It follows my voice, because sometimes I start down here, and then I'm talking about Babcock's decisions and all that stuff. And it follows me the whole time.

it doesn't peak it doesn't do any of these things that these expensive microphones $300 road microphone I was using yesterday

and and like half the time I'm all the way down here and then sounds like I'm talking into a Fisher-Price toy what

and the lack of compressor is part of it and I don't know what that is and I had to just be like you went to school for radio and TV broadcasting and you have no idea

how to do anything well and that's that's the thing is that here's what here's what I tried to tell him which is

it's okay to ask for help and the way I would look at it Steve is if I broke my arm I'm not going to try to repair my arm

why not Adam because what if you spent six hours trying to repair it and nothing works I guess it's broken forever

no I go to a doctor because at that point I recognize out of my depth on this one I'm going to go see what the doctor tells me to do

oh he wants me in a cast for six to eight weeks cool alright that's what I'll do and I'll walk around with my cast that the doctor gave me.

You're describing a very guy scenario. That's happened to every guy. Every person, I think, has had some kind of injury that they're like, ah, it's fine. It's just a sprain.

And then after about a week or two or a month or six months, you go, maybe it's not a sprain. Maybe I screwed myself up pretty bad. And then you go to the doctor. And then you tell the doctor and they go, yeah, you're an idiot. So I guess I'm at the part

where I get called an idiot. So let's have it. All I've said to Steve was, it need not shatter your confidence that you couldn't figure this out because this is not what you do. And again, it goes back to the conversation we were having last week about

let people farm out the stuff that you don't do well. Focus on what you do. Yeah, the main part there is I don't get why this is the end of the world. Why is the sky falling? Because you have to take two trips to Henry's to find a microphone.

I just wanted, I thought I walked in there and I would buy a thing and it would work magically right away and everyone would be like look at you Steven, we're so proud of you good job good job

my good friend Adam Wild taught me a thing or two about expectations and if you walk into Henry's what did Aunt Adam say? how many Warthers originals in are you? In this conversation When you walk into your aunt's house Did he give you a commemorative doily?

When you walk into your aunt's house And she offers you food You're going to eat that food I'm not saying you shouldn't Because your auntie knows best Auntie does know best So let me be an auntie And that auntie taught me about expectations

And you expecting to go into Henry's And walk out and magically You have one million subscribers Because you got this new microphone because it sounds great. That's not what I expected. That's an unreasonable expectation. Well, I didn't know that.

I thought this equipment's expensive. Therefore, it probably comes out. And, like, I half expected to open the box and it goes, greetings. And, like, it says hello. Steve Dangle. Yeah. And makes you a coffee.

And then it starts going la-la-la-la-la-la. Like all good microphones do when you take them out of the box. And then, yeah, you're right. Then I would have a million subscribers and I'd be rich and I'd never talk to either of you ever again. I know nothing about microphones, and yet I expect to figure this out in six hours.

Dude, at the fan here, we have four engineers who just built this year. We're all busy, and I don't want to bug them. 30 studios. They built 30 radio studios, and it took them 18 months. And these are professionals. This is not easy, man. It's not easy to do. And I was talking to one of them today, and they're like, why the hell didn't you just ask me?

Ugh. His name's Cam. I'm going to hook you up with his email. He's great. Did you try the lapel mic I gave you? Yeah, it wasn't great. It's an option. I used it for my TV hit last week.

I have to make another one tomorrow, so I might do that again. Unless you need it back. Anyway, give it to you to use. Plugging a mic into a DSLR isn't exactly ideal anyway. Like, I don't know. I feel like DSLR. I don't know. in the very little that I learned from a few

YouTube tutorials that I watched yesterday. It sounds like they're not the greatest devices. Let me go talk to other YouTubers and see what's up. If Casey Neistat, if it's good enough for Casey Neistat, it should be good enough for me. And just like most YouTubers, I've

never heard that name before. He's like one of the most popular ones. He's a very big YouTuber. But that's a very South Park thing. I asked my kids who their favorite celebrity he was. They said, PewDiePie. I looked him up. He had 35 million subscribers. I've never heard of him. Yeah. Yeah.

That's the best part. Now, now that we got that out of the way, and that you see that you were being my friend, and not because I want to insult you, but because I want to bring you back off the cliff a little bit in here and say you're being a bit irrational. I'm going to get you some help. I don't want to insult him. No, okay. Just speak for yourself. I can't speak for myself. I can only speak for myself,

that is. Between forgetting the laptop, and then buying all the wrong equipment for no good reason, and then splitting my pants, And then having my friend be like, that sounds like shit All I could think was Yeah, that's how Mrs. Dangle texted me and said, thanks

You just ruined my night And then the Leafs lost And then the Leafs lost, okay Bad first, good second, good 19 minutes Of the third, and then overtime bad Right? Roughly, yeah I feel like too often During a Leafs game

what annoys me so this is a I'm going to go very hashtag watch the games here I'll see people I'm noticing you're doing that a lot more lately hashtag watch the games it means a lot to Steve watching the games

where are you going with this I just feel like you're passionate about watching the games I'm very passionate about watching the games do these players pass your eye test sir here's the thing I'm not criticizing the players with my eye test my eye test A lot of people on Twitter are not passing

Oh That's right They're not passing your word eye test Well, yeah Yeah, sure We'll go with that Smooth Rolled off the tongue

For sure These These People are on Twitter And And They're live tweeting the game with me So like

I know they're watching as well And they'll be like Leafs are getting Completely caved in and outplayed At home right now And I'm like Okay, they just had one bad shift after having eight or nine passable to good ones in a row and I I have the distinct

feeling they're just looking at the totals for the game and yeah if you take the first period was crap yeah for sure and the Leafs first periods are often crap which is a huge problem and I think we can mutually agree that it needs to be fixed but so often I'll just see Leafs are getting outplayed really badly right now and I'm like not currently not at the moment at the moment

they're doing much better so what are you talking about and I saw a lot of that during the second kind of early third of this game and I was very baffled by it

it's a pretty when you think about it I mean and I've tweeted it myself but I think it's a pretty easy thing to say you know they're getting outplayed right now like well I say it all the time

I know but when you when you I feel like sometimes it's like okay we gotta go beyond that how why what

when what's the time frame Because if you're live-tweeting during a game, if you're live-tweeting during a game, you can, from a first to a second period, that can change drastically, right? As we know. Of course. So, you know, it's got to be like, right now, is it right now, or is it this period, or what is it? Like, time signature that a little bit more, maybe? Well, and who's playing poorly? Don't say the whole team. It wasn't. It definitely wasn't the whole team. The Matthews line, I'm trying to remember a shift they had in their own zone. Like, they were fantastic. Yeah, he was very good.

He was very good. Is he good? He's a good player. Okay. He's a pretty good player. He's a good man, too. And, you know, Matty looked like Matty, so that was good. I have a question.

Yes. Who are these people that are tweeting these things? Are they fans you're following, or are they actual hockey journalists that are tweeting these things? No, mostly bloggers. Mostly bloggers. Okay. Which, I mean, that's fine. I am also that.

So these are people you respect their opinion, and yet you think they're not seeing the game properly. Well, if I didn't respect their opinion, I wouldn't mention it, because it wouldn't mean anything to me. Okay. But these are people where I'm like, I feel like you know better, so either I'm missing something, or you are. No, that's interesting. And again, my confidence was at a very low point last night, so I'm like, maybe it's me. Maybe they are getting out of play. After a grueling six hours trying to figure out my audio equipment.

Yeah, my confidence in general is shite. Hasn't it been that way since 88? Since I started Catholic school, Jesse. I think Adam hit the nail on the head when he pointed that out. I don't know. No, it was just very confusing to me because I know they watch the games. I know that. So it was just weird to see that there was a time to tweet that in the game

where it would have been relevant and correct. One minute in when the shots were 5-0. Bad. Like, I watched, Freddie made, like, two amazing saves, I want to say, at the end of the first shift,

and I was like, this is going to be a long night. Yep, I can see it. I can see it. And then, sure enough, the Leafs brought it back, brought it back, and then it's like

the end of the second, oh, the Leafs look terrible. I'm like, what are you talking about? Yeah. I don't know, but I'm concerned by the same old crap.

Like, and I, this has got to be getting old to some of the Leafs fans listening. I can only imagine. If you're a non-Leaf fan, how do you feel? Oh friggin Hi Leia

From Pittsburgh All the time Yeah sorry You know there are fans About that I know You want back to back cups Just be happy

For the love of God But yeah Leo Komarov Let all forwards A nice time again Again Polak's out there He's not part of the rotation

I think the lines The pairings at practice today Were Dermot Polak again So the rotation Is already dead And by the way I saw a tweet today that said Dermott and then Brackett who had a 37 Corsi and 11 minutes played in the last game

paired with, close bracket, paired with Polak as in Dermott played like crap. And he might have. He had one giveaway, I remember. But I just thought it was like, wow. I don't remember who the Blues player was. Dermott went for a saucer pass and the Blues player batted it right out of the air.

So that was impressive. But I mean, maybe it was a bit of an errant pass. But that's another one. I can't imagine how you would watch that game and be like, Dermot! Stunk! Wow. Numbers, right? You gotta go by the numbers. It is just one game, though. That Marleau-Kadri-Komarov line is not working.

It's not working. You know what? It's never looked... That's never looked that strong, has it? Like, the best Patrick Marleau I think has looked all year is when he played center. Like, that, to me, is... And I know they don't want to do that. I know they don't want to tire him out.

Well, because it's the sports science stuff, Which they're investing heavily in And which From what I understand Is a lot of the reason why Austin Matthews Gets the same amount of ice time Or less

Than Leo Komarov Because come playoff time It'll flip I don't buy that You don't buy that? We'll see Yeah we'll see We don't really

We don't know One of you will be right Come the playoffs But Chris Johnston Has alluded to that Has he not? He has But like his theory today

You know what His theory today Made a lot of sense On your video On my video My LFR I don't know why I never came up with this idea before. Steve's expanding his channel.

You see? Did Chris do that via FaceTime or just send you a video? He just sent me a video. MOV, so it didn't work, so I had to convert it. Thanks, Chris! No, he did it in an airport. Oh, wait, there's more to it. So he actually recorded that in an airport.

I asked for only 15 to 20 seconds. It was like pretty much a full minute. That's because that's how CJ is. He's just that great. yeah and he's like where was he going why was he Philadelphia

because I think the Leafs play the Flyers tomorrow I think the cracked bell town yeah the city of brotherly cracked bells

no the city of cracked bells the city of what are you nuts oh yeah I forgot about that brotherly love so he said

okay I sent it sorry if it's too long or crappy there were people staring at me in the airport I won't be offended if you cut it

about to board my flight weeeee and then I I said No, no, no, no, no. I don't want to tell that part. Here it is. So I sit down beside a guy on the plane and he's like, geez, it sounded like you were

talking someone off the ledge back there, which is exactly what I asked Chris to do. So very good job. What did he say? So what he said was, uh, look, Steve, calm down. There is a method to Babcock's madness. Look, the Leafs have an 11 point cushion on the playoffs. By the way, it's 11 now. Yeah.

Like that's the hilarious thing about the pity point. I swear we were talking about the Leafs' cushion being like eight or nine points. They haven't won a game since we had that discussion, and their lead has grown. Pity point. So he was talking about that, and he's like, look, the 0-9-10 Capitals scored almost four goals a game, and they got knocked out first round. Leafs played the Capitals admirably, a lot of people would agree, during the playoffs, but in game one, they coughed up a 2-0 lead.

And in game six, they had a third period lead, coughed that up, lose the series. God, it annoys me so much to think that the Leafs could have actually beaten the Caps. But, okay, so do you want to emulate the 0-9-10 Caps? Do we want the Leafs to be a regular season juggernaut that falls apart in the playoffs? You mean the always Caps? The always Caps, except for this year, probably, because the universe is stupid. No pressure on them, again. None, none, until they win the division

And we're like, this is your year And they go, what did I do? And they just fall apart If they're Winter Classic or whatever it is, jersey design Is any indication, they're ready to crack So do you think about What CJ said and realize that

You've been kind of irrational Well, okay, yada yada yada There's a method to their madness in that Babcock knows they have a cushion Knows they have over 30 games to figure this out before the playoffs start to be like, look, idiots, here's how you play defense.

Do this, do this, do this. And of course they don't look that good because you're taking away from a strength to address a weakness. So now you're just kind of mediocre. Now you're just this weird in the middle team, which is exactly how the Leafs look. They're in most games

and they win some and they lose some. And sometimes it goes to overtime. and they're almost bang on 500 in that regard like they're just Joe average were they

they're 8-3 in the skid skid yeah something like that no regulation wins since December 28th sorry no regulation wins since December 28th

that's painful and no goals from Caudry since November that streak continues except for that one off his foot right

no goals off of Caudry's stick since November that's right which I think one goal matters it does

it does I wonder if you I don't know anyway so that made me feel a little bit better so that is the method to babcock's madness let's say and there's logic to that and i like it but then when you say well the sports science i'm like okay can it be both can it be because like i i need a conspiracy theory to subscribe to and i feel like conspiracy theories don't mend well together you know what i mean it's either he's trying to teach them defense

or it's sports science. Maybe it's one or the other. You think it's both? Why could it not be? I guess it could be. Because here's the thing. Okay, so you're trying to teach them defense.

I want to desperately believe it's at least one of them. Oh, for sure. Listen, this is, okay. Here's the one thing that I know is that Mike Babcock is way smarter than I am.

So Mike Babcock And he's smarter than this. He has to be. Sure. Has to be. Do you think Mike Babcock doesn't know what he has? And that, it is frustrating.

Listen, to everybody feeling like, what the hell is Leo Komarov doing 20 minutes, 24 minutes, whatever, I get it, I get it, I get it. But I have to believe, based on the history that this man has as a coach, that there is a process afoot. And as Lou Lamorello continues to say, the one thing that Lou Lamorello concretely says in every interview, because nothing else he says actually means anything, and I don't mean that as a slam on him, it's actually brilliant. Listen, Adam, he's not going to put a hit on you. But, I mean, like, read Jonas Siegel's latest interview with Lou Lamorello. Right? Like, it's just Jonas does his absolute best, and Lou just gives him the Lou. How many words of nothing was it?

It was a lot of words of nothing. And it's, you know, and that's the thing is that it doesn't matter who you sit Lou Lamorello in front of. He's not going to tell you anything. But what he will say is it's a five-year plan that's changing every day. Five-year plan to me means development. And you can't just, okay, these guys are. Oh. Jesse just put his finger in Steve's mouth

Because Steve was upset And had his mouth open Why did you have your mouth open? You're right Shame on me What was I thinking? How are you not defending yourself? Why would you leave your mouth open like that?

I don't know Ready for attack? Did I just cheat? Is that how it works? You might have just cheated, yeah Yeah I'm going to call my wife right now and apologize Yeah, no, I think

I think there has to be something to this There has to be And I feel like part of it is they know how they can play, but we've got to be responsible. And I thought you brought up a really good point in your video. Thank you! And it made me think of something. Jesse's eyes almost just came out of his head there

with that aggressive reaction. James Van Riemsdyk. All anybody's talking about is James Van Riemsdyk and the amount of goals he has. But you made a really good point wherein you say He does one thing And nothing else And I don't think

I'm being unreasonable When have you seen A shot off the rush When have you seen A good defensive play When have you seen Somebody tied up There was a play

Last night I don't remember If it was Bozak Or Marner Who fed him off the rush But I was like He's passing this He's passing this

Because his other option Is to shoot it And he doesn't do that anymore Like one day He used to shoot Yeah JVR just decided I don't do that Shooting's not a thing I do

Anymore I do Backhands from Five feet out I do tap-ins From five feet out And I do deflections Yeah

And that's what I do And I do it really well And I'll never take that Away from him But he does Nothing Else He doesn't lay hits

I don't really see him Do anything dynamically Defensively In his own end Or in the neutral zone I don't see him Bombing a slap shot I don't see him

Taking snapshots Wrist shots From like the high slot Or something like that When he doesn't have the puck I don't see him near another player What is What is it you say

You do here Bingo and so for me You want six times six because you do one thing really good He'll get it I kind of hope it's not here I don't think it will be I don't think it will be He might be a hero come playoff time

And I might eat these words but I gotta be honest with you I feel like 20 goals from JVR might be worth 15 goals from a player who does more than what JVR breaks. Well, he's almost at 20 goals right now. But that's what I'm saying, Brooksy.

Is that if you got, say at this point in the season you got a guy that's got 12 or 13 goals, 13 goals, but can tie up a guy into the defensive zone. Doesn't leave you exposed

every time you put him out. You don't have to shelter with offensive zone starts. a Connor Brown type guy. I don't know. You know, I feel like there are players who can put up similar numbers.

I'm not saying that you got a guy in the Marlies because everybody's thing is, well, they don't have anyone in the Marlies who can do this exact thing at this exact moment. So therefore, they have to hang on to him.

I don't believe that. I've never believed that. I think that if, okay, if JVR scores 30 goals this year, that's amazing. And if you lose 30 goals, that sucks. However,

do not tell me you can't do that by committee And don't tell me that you can't clean up some of the stuff that he doesn't do. Well, yeah. So I don't think it's that you're just trying to replace the goals he allows. You're, or sorry, scores. You're trying to, you might be able to alleviate some of the goals he allows. Bingo.

Well, remember, JBR Bozak Castle scored a billion goals. Always had more goals scored against. From the second, when he was traded to the Leafs for Luke Shen, Flyers fans were like, he is a world destroyer when he wants to be. we saw that seven points in seven games against the Bruins

yeah he's great and he was decent in the cap series too like I think he scored the first goal of that series he's a

a great player when he wants to be but boy he's been super ho-hum recently um I would like to see Marner taking off

that line uh and I don't care if it's a fourth line to motion again because he's doing that ridiculous

spinning the wheels just trying shit for the sake of trying shit again oh ridiculous oh, I'm going to put it through my legs and behind the bat. To who, Mitch? A pass involves a receiver.

He's just trying stuff. Would that tell you that he doesn't trust his linemates? No. I would love to subscribe to that theory. It makes some sense, Adam, but we've seen Marner do this. When he gets desperate, he just tries crap. But who is he playing with, and why is he desperate in the first place? He's never not played with them.

Yeah, I don't like him being with that line anymore. So if Babcock's idea is development, I have a few questions. One, leave Polak out of it. Yeah. You think he can kill penalties. No, I'm going to bring Polak into it. You're trying to develop the team and you're trying to teach him something. You're having this dude kill all the penalties.

And Ron Hainsey. Like, okay, one guy I get, like a safety net. Ron Hainsey's been worth every dollar Because I think he teaches Polak Is Polak teaching much? I don't know Like why not have a younger guy kill penalties And you can teach them

When it comes to Komarov If it's about teaching team defense Why are you having one of the senior most guys Among your forwards Playing the most minutes If that's the case And if it is about development I'm going back to Marner now

Hyman, I think, has played well Matthews looks like his normal self again Nylander's been fine JVR Bozak-Marner has lost its magic JVR Bozak-Brown Give it a shot Brown deserves the upgrade Marlow

Kadri Marner! Screw the idea of a shutdown line I don't think it works It certainly didn't against the Blues And why you have 500 something goal Patrick Marleau

On a shutdown line And again That doesn't make sense to me For a 30 goal score Last year Nazem Kadri Who was on pace Early on in the season

Marleau and Kadri combined I had I want to say Almost 60 goals last year And then you put him On a line with Marner Ugh That's amazing

And then your fourth line Is Martin Moore Or Gauthier Komarov Which I don't hate You go on one wing You got Martin

And you go on the other wing You got Komarov banging and crashing I think that's more resembling of a fourth line maybe Leo gives you some better I don't even give a shit

if you lose Leo use Leo on the power play at that point because at least he's playing less overall he'd be more rested and he's more rested for you know

he can be more of a pest in front on the power play he can be more of a pest on the penalty call I just don't understand if the if part of the process here is teaching the team

how to defend why are you having your oldest line as your shutdown line why are you having one of your oldest forwards as your shut down forward and why don't you trust the younger guys with

more of it what's the whole sink or swim thing you want to teach a kid how to swim you throw him in the pool throw a couple of these players in the pool throw Travis Durham in the pool throw him out there on a PK

don't even tell him it's coming throw him out on a random PK in the second period after he didn't kill a single penalty in the first and see how he does. So you started this by saying you know that Babcock is smarter than you. Yeah. No, Adam said that.

I just agreed. I did say that. So this scenario of your new lines, I'm sure he's thought of it. Why isn't he doing it, Jesse? Because there are reasons that he has that he knows that wouldn't work or that's not the way he wants to go right now.

Why? It doesn't matter if you know why. he knows why. Because it's not like he didn't think of that. It's not like he doesn't know those guys exist and are on his team

and can play on a certain line. It's just he's choosing not to do it for strategic reasons that we probably just don't know. I have a hot take wild theory.

I'm into it because... I also have a JVR question after that. Oh, JVR question first. Hot take wild conspiracy. Hashtag wild thoughts. Wow, wow, wow. Do you think JVR

is focusing on goal scoring to make his contract in the offseason look a little bigger. Because when you're a 30-goal scorer, or maybe even 35, you might be able to get a couple extra bucks when you're on the free agent market. Yeah, but wouldn't playing better help you score more goals? I think it's numbers at that point. Probably not.

Don't kid yourself, man. Do you think NHL general managers who have to watch 82 games are looking at Leaf games much? How much do you think they're not? how much do you think Jarmo Kekulainen or who's a team

that would sign JVR I don't know anybody Brian Burke Peter Shirelli how many of these how many of these guys

are looking at Leaf games all the time they're going to trust what their scouts say and they're going to say hey we need goal scoring what do we need were they Edmonton Oilers

we got Calf Space we need goal scoring JVR scored 34 this season you're like oh and he didn't even have Connor McDavid setting him up

wow that sure would look great together let's go look at some tape of JVR and all the tape of him is his scoring because those are the ones

you capture for the highlights and you throw them in the package. They're not going to throw bad stuff at women. You don't know what you don't know. I don't want to believe

your theory because No, I don't want to believe that either. Surely no. Surely no. But he's never been this one dimensional.

Maybe there's numbers that say actually Steve he looks the exact same as he's always looked. Maybe that's what they're asking him to do. Maybe it's a little bit of recency bias

and maybe that's what they're asking him to do. But maybe it's a little bit of recency bias because I watched that game against the Blues and he did nothing. Nothing.

I'm trying to remember of a single play. And if that is truly the only thing he can do, then Bozak and Marner and whoever the two defenders who are on with them, what they need to do is a better job of getting pucks on net. And Marner's got to not freeze every time he's got a shot. Take the shot.

And shoot it! Yeah, Mitch Marner needs to shoot the puck. so many times Batcock did say one thing after the game that I totally agreed with shoot it shoot it

there was even one where Kadri's on the rush I think he had Marleau with him and he made a pretty nice pass to Marleau Marleau ended up

getting a scoring chance off I think Kadri still would have been better off shooting it himself this is a pass first team like it is on every line and that's always a problem

it's always a problem like it's every line there's like at least one player who does that a little too often

you know who does A little too often Sometimes Not necessarily of late But sometimes Zach Hyman There are so many times Where he's had the puck

And it's like In the slot And I think he goes Okay I got Matthews And Nylander with me I gotta give one of them The puck And I've seen so many times

Him try to give the puck To Matthews And it gets intercepted Or it's You know Stick check And he's not able To get a good shot off

Zach you had a clear shot Yourself You're in the NHL You don't suck Shoot it Hey maybe There will be a rebound And you know Matthews

is going to bury that. I would rather him do that. The whole JVR-Bozak-Marner line does that. Well, okay. The big problem with that line is Marner's always the one with the puck. So... And he's got two banging guys.

Bozak has always been a good banging guy. If there's one thing he does particularly well in this league, besides shootouts, it's bang him in close. And JVR does that too. And wins some faceoffs. Marner should shoot more for that reason. Yep.

Should shoot more for that reason. I feel like I'm just yada yada yada would you like to hear my conspiracy theory not conspiracy theory but I guess it is hot take warm this room and I'm basing this off of a perception

of how the Leafs built this current team so go with me on this one first off get over don't die Steve was drinking water we're good you remember how to drink water you good you know it's like setting up a microphone.

What's up? You good? Yep. You bet. Never better. What did the Leafs do in Mike Babcock's first year?

Sucked. Right. What did they do though? That's the result. The result was they sucked but what did they do? I don't know what you're going for.

They gave a lot of ice time to players that had trouble finding jobs. P.A. Parenteau Michael Grabner Brad Boyce

they weren't able to sell off any of those guys by the way Daniel Winnick which they did sell off one interesting guy that they did sell off was Dion Phaneuf yes and it has been suggested

that Dion Phaneuf was sold off at maybe sold as better than maybe Dion was oh thank god I thought you were going to be like I've heard that the Leafs are going after Frenel

No no they're not going after Frenel No but they gave Dion From what people said at the time Some of the stuff I believe I read At the Leafs Nation Some favorable minutes Now I suggested this two episodes ago

About Komarov And that's what I'm thinking too I'm convinced too Did you say that? I'm sorry I said Jesse gets full credit for this Are you talking about they gave enough easier minutes? I'm saying they're pumping the shit

out of Komarov's minutes. Well, because they're certainly not giving them easier minutes. They're giving them the hardest ones. Right? But they're giving them lots of ones. Why? They couldn't be thinking of that. Why not? No, you think so? You're going to lose three guys this offseason.

You know what? Actually, chances are they re-sign Bozak because who's going to play center otherwise? You know what? I'm listening to Harry Potter. I grew up loving Pokemon and Dragon Ball Z. and all the Disney movies I like fairy tales

I like stories I like a good yarn I love it and I just feel like I've had this thought and it sounds like you've had this thought and maybe even Jesse

has had this thought but Jesse had the original thought I'm sorry I had the same thought remember I referenced Mindhunter I was like this is my Mindhunter theory

oh you're Mindhunter you guys never seen Mindhunter no I haven't I guess the reference went over your head too oh I'm sorry please explain

explain yes I was in the middle of a thing Steve was doing a thing I love fairy tales I love magic I want to believe And I feel like a lot Of Leafs Nation

Believes That at some point Over the next six weeks or so The Leafs are going to go Surprise! We were smart all along And we traded Komarov And Bozak

For John Tavares And Kasperi Kapanen is the captain now And Andreas Janssen's up And guess what? He's going to score 30 goals between the trade deadline and the beginning of the playoffs. And then they're going to ride off into the sunset with the Stanley Cup. And Babcock's going to get the cup tattooed to his face.

He's going to get a Stanley Cup teardrop tattooed to his face. And just be like, kiss the rings. And that's how it's going to go. Kiss the rings, team full of good players. This is what you think is going to happen? There's a small part of me that wants to believe they're going to go, ha! they're going to tear off their shitty team mask and be like surprise we were a good

team all along and I just don't I have a very hard time believing that literally the best case scenario is going to happen I think it's time to start throwing Leo Komarov up on the trade bait board

are you in your franchise mode? I'm in my franchise I'm telling you I'm telling you there might be something there we have seen this before. And the best predictor of future is past behavior. And quite literally, we've seen this before.

They're going to trade such a leader of the locker room? Think about that, though. Think about it. I'm going from hockey culture here. Okay, leader of the locker room? Well, now it's time for the new guys to take over. Leo's contract's up. You're probably not going to trade a centerman because you need your centerman going into the playoffs.

You're probably not going to trade the guy who's going to score you 35 goals because you need goals going into the playoffs. What's expendable? What's a guy that you can replace? Andreas Johnson, Nikita Sashnikov, even Kasperi Kapanen. Doesn't play the same role. If you're looking for the same role, Andreas Johnson's probably your best bet. Does Sashnikov

exist? He's on the IR still, apparently. All I'm saying... For what? Can we just focus? Yeah, sure. All I'm saying is it sure looks like he's expendable and it sure looks like if you're part of a five-year plan that changes every day,

Lou Lamorello's words, wouldn't you want to sell at least one of those guys off, get some sort of futures, and make room for somebody new. Who's been playing, by the way, and I think it's Andreas Johnson, who's been playing extremely well. He has been playing extremely well. You know you have a monster there. Or a little monster

there. Potential. Potential. And then, then it solves the Connor Brown, Mitch Marner, who the hell has to sit on the fourth line thing. But you know what's great about hanging on to Leo Komarov right now is that it's keeping guys like, you know what, I'm not, I'm gonna, let me rephrase that this is not keeping guys in line but it is keeping guys fighting for spots in

the lineup because guys who have been on the fourth line before William Nylander Mitch Marner Connor Brown are fighting like hell I feel like everyone like that's another one of the fantasies is one day they're just going to be like release the levo ah and he's just going to come out of nowhere and 25 goals 25 assists ah just out of nowhere like no i think he's just the healthy scratch prisoner that we've come to know and love like i don't i just have a hard time believing this it was me austin it was me all along moment is gonna happen i i just We Are we

I don't know I Jesse Help me out Help me out Jesse Help us out Do you think the Leafs Get a defenseman

At the trade deadline Yeah you know I think No No This is another thing If they're truly Going with the young guys here

They won't They won't go and get a defenseman The Leafs have I think Enough NHL caliber defensemen And it's just the maybe issue of quality and this whole sink or swim thing. Well, they scored one goal last night.

Not all the young guys are buoyant. They scored one goal last night. Oh, Freddie had a great game, man. Sub 40 of 42. No, no, no, no. I'm not talking about St. Louis. I'm talking about the Leafs. The Leafs scored one goal last night.

Oh, scored one goal. Not scored upon, scored. Yeah. And that's my point is that, you know, the defense can't. Any more guys who can move the puck? Yeah, defense can't. No, well, no, I just, the defense can't look great when you've only got one goal for them to work with.

Oh, well, a guy who can move the puck might help you. Borgman should never be sitting. I love Dermott, and I want him in the lineup. Borgman should never be sitting. What the hell? He's been pretty great. Release the Borgmod. Release the Derm-man.

When's the next game? Tomorrow. Tomorrow night. I want Borgman left, Dermott right. Let it ride. Verso. Verso? No.

Borgmash. No, the Leafs. Oh, Philly, I think. Philly. That's where CJ's headed. Okay. If the Leafs win in Philly, is everything okay? No.

I'll be happier. How do they win? How do they win? That's the important part for me. We're still at the point in the season where I'm like, just get some points. They're not even at 60 yet, and they probably need at least 95. Yeah.

You know Any team could I'm Right now we're laughing At teams like Florida Going ah They're 11 points back But like you're a hot week

Away from going Oh shit No they're not Yeah But um You're not We're not concerned About their playoff spot

Well I am getting Increasingly concerned I'm concerned About them wasting their time In the playoffs You know what I mean Like

They make it And suck Like I don't want that I don't Yeah you know what's not good for pessimists when the thing they assume is going to happen happens

that's not good they're just going to make the playoffs and not play that well and then play the Bruins in round one and get their teeth kicked in oh look it happened and we didn't get a game 7 heartbreak this time oh I would have loved for that we got swept

cool I just want to throw this out there I am not suggesting that Leo Komarov goes for a defenseman and I'm mostly suggesting he gets sold for picks or something. No. The Leafs are not going to be sellers at this deadline. Surely not. Don't call me surely.

Fine. I got to tell you, man, why not? Why the hell not? Imagine how badass it is. We sold and won. And Tampa almost made the playoffs last year after they sold, right? They were doing great. So anyway.

Just make a picture of Leo Komarov and Rudy Gay high-fiving. We will leave it at that. Kid Rock is playing the All-Star game. Kid Rock is playing the All-Star game. No, let's talk about the Leafs again. I am going to read you some of the reaction tweets. I reserve, I mean, I obviously know people are not happy about this, but the first tweet in response to the NHL announcing this was from Acting a Fuleman,

and he said, do you hate your own fans, or what is this exactly? Man, I got to see Fall Out Boy in Columbus in 2015. I feel like that is upper echelon NHL talent. By the NHL standards, Follower Boy's a big act. Who played last year? I'm trying to remember. No idea.

The one in LA. I feel like they would have had a big one. Yeah, yeah. Can you look that up? It's LA. At 50 underscore mission cap says, What, were Limp Bizkit and Creed busy that day? Jeez.

Someone responds to him, Why not Baja Men? Who let the dogs out? I mean, that would have been good. Absolutely. And then they could have done something like, something really cheeky with like the Coyotes mascot. Oh, it would have been hilarious.

Now, I saw a graphic floating around, and I actually went and looked this up too, and there are graphs out there and information out there of what it costs to hire certain bands. Oh, I was like, man, there's a graph for everything. So I went and looked this up. Fan reaction per 60 to Kid Rock. It's estimated that Kid Rock would cost you about

450 grand Let's say the NHL's got between 450 and 550 to spend Or 4 and 5 to spend Who could they get? You could get Rascal Flats You could get Shakira

You could use Shakira for the same price as Kid Rock? Yep She's like global The Killers for $500,000 You could get for God for Alanis Morissette friend of the show

100 to 150 grand now this is an older one because it says Bruno Mars 200 to 400k I remember last year who was it last year

if you guys remember Nick Jonas oh man do you remember that after the in the first intermission oh man I don't remember

the performance but like Nick Jonas is like operational because Jesse and I walked we walked into a meeting with our boss

Paul Who's great And we said Did you see the Nick Jonas performance And he's like yeah And we're like Nick Jonas can't sing And he's like no he can't We're like no Nick Jonas can't

But in terms of talent the NHL can book Nick Jonas that's a big name So is Kid Rock He's a big name In what year Kid Rock is huge Kid Rock sold out I believe he sold out

Comerica in Detroit In Detroit Like that doesn't count That's a baseball field Yeah but that's his Holy shit Are you serious They could have got

Billy Ray Cyrus For 50 grand Yeah Yo I'll take Aki Brekky hard over that Anyone should be able To sell out their hometown And if they can't

They stink Kid Rock is about to go On an international tour That's also true No he's not He is He's also In Ukraine are they like

I'm a cowboy Bad ass black He's going to play The Arcana Center On February 16th Yo We should get tickets That's fairly soon

It is fairly soon Dude Justin Timberlake Is like going to be At the ACC About a month later You mean not Kid Rock You're right They could have had

Tone Loke for 10 grand Tone Loke for 10 grand I thought you said Post Malone I thought you said Tove Lowe No not Tove Lowe No

You should have Post Malone at the game Soulja Boy for $75,000. Oof. I was about to say, well, they're not that desperate yet, but they got Kid Rock. I mean, hey, how about this? Save all your money and don't have one.

I don't know why you have to have somebody play in the All-Star game. It sounds, you know, part of what was probably Nick Jonas' problem is that the sound always sucks. Yeah, well, and... And the mixing always sucks. I've been to an All-Star game, and not a single person was like, hey, hey, hey, everyone,

Fall Out Boy is starting. Like, I don't mind them. I think they're good. I have one of their albums in my youth. But I don't understand why you need to drop half a million dollars on a, what, three-song performance that no one's going to really watch or give a shit about.

The thing is, I see where you're going with this, and I think what the real thing is here from an optics perspective is that if you're going to have an act, you better have a big one. It better be like the Super Bowl. Who do they got? Bruno Mars,

Beyonce, Coldplay. Don't compare the NHL to the NFL. But if you're going to do it. Like it's laughable. That's not a comparison. But that's the point. It's laughable because they hire

sorry secondary guys. It's like the PGA Tour and the local mini putt. They're the secondary league. But they have the money. They know they have the money. Kid Rock is huge. I don't know why you're not giving him credit. Kid Rock is huge.

he's huge and I'm looking at his tour dates and he's doing three nights in Oklahoma that doesn't surprise me at all Choctaw Grand Theater

he's doing three nights at the what? the Grand Theater let me see Choctaw where is this? somebody from Oklahoma help us out here

I'm gonna go with Choctaw see anyways I thought you were just struggling and then he's playing the Bridgestone he's playing the ACC

Toyota Kota Sutter in Houston. The Mets. I think we should give the NHL more credit for hiring a bigger act than we thought. Who's channel flipping? Who's just flipping through the channels and they go, whoa, whoa, whoa. We got Kid Rock here. That's my boy.

Middle America. Make it. Oh, fuck. He's right. Damn. Damn. He nailed it. There's a hockey team in Arizona.

I want to say it's a Robin Williams joke. He goes, Jag has been on the air for a decade. Have you ever heard anyone go, hey, did you see Jag last night? It's true. I'm not sure who watched that show. Who's keeping that alive? And that show lasted longer than most shows. Most of you are going, what's Jag?

You probably saw commercials for it on Global when you were a kid. Never watched a single episode. Damn, you just nailed it. So just so we can be clear here, what's the issue with Kid Rock? Is it the fact that he said some questionable things? yeah that and like he's not a good enough you know how some artists can survive like scandals because like they got that profile it's just it's too big to be stopped and like i don't know i guess the scandal needs to be within reason right he murdered someone

yeah maybe he should be done not if you're oj yeah like kid rocks that was a bad joke Yeah Ba-wit-ba-ba Shouldn't be like Legacy concrete You know what I mean? Ba-wit-ba-ba? Ba-wit-ba-ba-ba-ba-bang

That's the name of the song The name of the song is Ba-wit-ba-ba Is it actually? Type it in I don't want to do that You should I don't want to give him a Google hit On the search results

And then like your Facebook and everything For the next month is gonna be like Would you like a Kid Rock t-shirt? oh i'm sorry does my kid rock offend you uh i whatever dude i i don't know like people are like i i've never i personally don't know other than i'm not like a huge fan of kid rock's music but i don't and i know that he's like a hardcore republican but him being a hardcore republican wouldn't stop me from listening it wouldn't but there seems to be a personal objection to him and i'm just trying to figure

out what that is and there's i know that he like displays the confederate flag so that's an issue it's just but beyond that like people are like oh he's super racist and i'm like well maybe the confederate flag yeah would point you in that direction but he's beyond that i don't i'm not really sure that'd be enough that should be enough you're right like can't that be enough that's enough yeah i think that can be enough there's certain artists where you know they've done things and i'm like god but i really like that song there's no song yeah i mean he's great great songs I'm like god

yeah but I have a hard time and I go I'm gonna turn it off cause in my head I'm like it's Chris Brown and I'm like oh shh

and I have a really hard time getting back to that Kid Rock has never written anything so amazing where I'm like you know turn it up

never mind turn up ba with ba ba turn up him just rapping Sweet Home Alabama but about Michigan I would rather watch those shitty

Michigan tourism videos Come on down to Michigan Tim Allen? Voicing them? Is that Tim Allen voicing those things? Tim the Toolman Taylor man It's like they got the guy who voiced the commercials For Tweaks Coffee From South Park

Come on down to Michigan It's a simpler place here We have I don't know fields and rivers that Kid Rock sang about in that song that was on the radio all the time. It was a little funny that a guy from Detroit would display the Confederate flag, too.

You can catch a fish. He's all American. Take a picture of your kid. Yeah, and the Confederate flag, the antithesis of what America stands for. Canadian. The rebel flag. The flag that literally split the country.

I just don't think you guys get it. Canadian, asking a question here, what does all American mean? it means bald eagles apple pies motorcycles ford trucks freedom freedom what does that mean except if you want to have an abortion or if you want to be no one's here to bring that up we're here to talk about Kid Rock and freedom. Okay, well, listen. And loving America. Freedom fries.

To all the people that are offended that we don't like Kid Rock, and you do. Hey. Listen, it's okay. Speak for yourself. Oh, I'm sorry. You're right. How about this? I'm not gonna put into words, or I can't put into words, the reason

why hearing Kid Rock is performing at the All-Star Game made me make a face like someone just ripped a fart i can't explain why it made me make a face like someone just ripped a fart but the second i read that i made a face that looked like someone ripped a fart yeah that's it i think you summed that up for me i'm gonna rt that fave and rt that they should have went with florida georgia line that at least is accessible okay they're not like yeah we're no florida acts available? Florida-Georgia

Lions, perfect. They've got like pop music and country music and they're, listen. Was no one from Tampa available? What about Flo Rida? A lot of people were suggesting that. Why didn't they go with Flo Rida? Flo Rida would have done it. He both performed at a Walmart in

Alaska. You're telling me he wasn't available to perform the NHL All-Star game? Roomba C! You're telling me he wasn't available? He had to have been available. Man. it would have been really cool if he'd like

broken out Lil Jon too and they'd done the anthem they should have had Pitbull in the shootout competition that'd be great he would have done it they should have had him Corey Crawford could be up

for the season with vertigo-like symptoms holy smokes really out for the season wow it's one of the Chicago Sun-Times and a few other places too

I hadn't read that when did they break this afternoon this afternoon whoa so here's this is just not

Chicago season right We just call it what it is Oh no Like this is just This is not Chicago's season Like look It's been Chicago's decade

You're the cable provider in South Park Oh no You can't That's terrible Like Oh no It's not Chicago's season Are the Blackhawks struggling Adam?

Well they might Without their starting goaltender Stephen How much are they struggling? Well, let me just break that down for you. Look, that's horrible for Corey Crawford. Absolutely. Obviously. But what we consider to be not the Blackhawks season

is they're a middle of the pack, still in the playoffs team. Could probably sneak in. Three points out of a spot right now. Oh, no! What are they going to do? Quick! Someone fetch me some clean linens and an outdoor game. Stats

We need to Tend to the Blackhawks We need to We need to get them A warm blanket And some cocoa And three outdoor games Minimum

And they were able to turn Richard Ponick Into Anthony Duclair Yeah Like Yes This This has been

A Blackhawks week And we're already talking about it Not being their season It's not their season How many Who is Who are the Blackhawks Who's gonna trade the Blackhawks

Their starting goalie For a fourth Is a better question How about we go there Vegas There it is Jesse found it And then Vegas starts losing

And the Blackhawks Take their spot Holy mackerel Jesse might have found it He might have found it I was wondering something Who's got two goalies Carter Hutton

Patrick Kane Currently sitting at 18 goals 27 assists Oh he's on pace For another 30 goal season 45 and 45 And Jonathan Taves

that rapscallion he's sitting at 21 goals oh no that doesn't make sense what why is it stats unavailable what's

HockeyDB HockeyDB's messing up do you know what a Wikipedia for this no I I hit NHL.com hopefully it works

14 goals 17 assists 31 points so the the two boys are having an alright season so it must be someone else

letting him down I think it's the coach wow they should fire him he hasn't done enough in his career yeah a few people

were upset because they couldn't find the video clip of Quenville freaking out on the bench and I was upset because I couldn't find it either

when did he freak out when he was the assistant coach of the Avalanche and they won the cup in 96 oh the one you're referencing

yeah yeah I couldn't find it either so okay whatever Rock'em Sock'em it was that year I want to say

Rock'em Sock'em 8 because I watched that like every day when I was a kid that's the one with the crazy Stars vs. Oilers

first round series and Cujo made all those ridiculous say oh so good I'm pretty sure if you have Rock'em Sock'em 8 go to the part

where the Avalanche win the cup you can see Quinville just coming undone in a way I've never seen a coach come undone

over Christmas yes did someone not tweet you that you were in a Rock'em Sock'em oh well that I was mentioned

I still haven't seen that yeah I was about to say did we ever solve that I haven't seen it yet oh that's crazy

though I guess sales aren't doing good because no one else has tweeted it I mean that or it wasn't true it was

basically they just included the again-less segment where Ron goes, oh, Steve Dangle was talking about that and Don goes, who? But that's crazy.

You got into it rock and soccer. If it's in, now I got to go out and get it. There you go. I just reminded you of something.

Speaking of the Blackhawks, you know, most of the time they make sound judgment calls. But I think we're ignoring... Oh, is Kid Rock performing at their...

At their next outdoor game, yes. I think we're ignoring one of the worst trades in recent memory for the NHL. Huh What was that?

Artemi Panarin And Brandon Saad That is not going well Right now So what are What are the stats for those two? Well actually What was the full trade?

Wasn't it straight up? No No There were other parts I want to say like Tyler Mott Or something was included Because I remember seeing Like today or yesterday

Like oh the Blue Jackets Have called Tyler Mott And I'm like Wasn't he on the Blackhawks? Panarin and Mott And a 6th rounder To the Blackhawks for No, to the Blue Jackets.

The Jackets, or the Hawks did get Anton Forsberg and a fifth-round pick. Okay. And saw it. Now, I have to say. Forsberg might save their bacon while Crawford's out. He might, because he was supposed to be one of those guys in Columbus as well. And they needed to replace Scott Darling, who left. That's right.

You know, Artemi Pernarin has 38 points in 46 games. He looked great the last game I saw him. Brennan Saad, who had a rough start to the season, we all know that. No, he had a great start to the season. Oh, he's been rough since. He had like two hat-tricks in the first week or something, and then he fell off. 23 points this year. That's not great.

Brennan Saad's a guy that produces at just over half a point a game. He's a two-way player. Two-way player, but his career high, and he's done it twice with Columbus, by the way, 53 points. It's more of a two-way guy But Yeah He's not He's not doing great

And all of a sudden They need him to do both The team's struggling To score goals And I I just think that that That might work out Now

Maybe Brennan saw it Yeah but they just Cut to Claire still Sure but I still think That was a bad I think that was a bad trade But they wanted to get

The band back together Imagine If If the Predators Actually did What everyone said They did in the summer well not even the Predators

Pecorine Pecorine drove the Hawks to madness because what did the Blackhawks have three goals in four games

before getting swept he just drove them nuts and they just made a bunch of moves kind of like what the Canucks and Leafs did after playing the Bruins

consecutive or in a few seasons the Bruins like ruined divisions the 2011 Bruins are still one of the most fascinating teams to me

over the last decade in because people reacted to them oh so hard and I wonder if Chicago reacted it's like oh my god

what went wrong and apparently it came from Kane and Taze that's who they wanted to have back and nothing against Brandon Sott but you can't tell me

you can't tell me that Artemi Panarin's not a a top line winger and you can't tell me and you can't tell me that Brandon Sott is a top line center

You mean Well yeah That was another thing So I've called him a center A bunch of times He's a left winger On the show Apparently he's a winger

I swear he used to be a center They're both left wingers Look Panarin looks better Right now Let's just call it what it is And I don't I thought

But I always thought He did Like When did he not look better Than Brandon saw That's my question And I could be wrong about this But every time I've seen

Artemi Panarin play And every time The Blackhawks came to town If you had Kane shut down Then he had to shut down days, and then he had to shut down Panarin. It was Panarin that was always the guy that was like, oh my god.

Yeah, Adam, but what about those four games? Like, that's what I'm saying. They drove him completely nuts. Like, didn't Kane win a scoring title with Panarin on his wing? Yeah. Why would you trade that guy? What about that makes you go, here's the problem. Panarin's first year. His first year

he got 77 points. So what was the next year? 74 points. Oh! So I thought they were selling high or whatever. Or, sorry, buying Patrick Kane, three-time 30-goal scorer. Artemi Panarin, already a two-time 30-goal scorer. Already? Well, I mean,

he's in the hall for sure. He's coming up on it. I'm just saying, I think it was a bad trade. I thought it was a bad trade at the time, and I still think it's a bad trade. You downgrade it. Here's what happens, though. This show is creepy. Oh, he's going to score ridiculously.

Dude, we ragged on Brent Seabrook. He freaking scored a goal. That doesn't mean Brett Seabrook's back We talked about Rick Nash He has like a highlight Real cool

We talked about Yeah I know We could go through the list We could go through The list I talked about The Bruins being A bunch of nobodies

I Yeah they're killing it I have A contender For your worst trade Oh In the last year In the last year

Does it involve The Blackhawks It involves The Blue Jackets Oh So For the expansion draft if you don't remember.

The Blue Jackets were leaving a whole bunch of players exposed. And they didn't want anybody to take them. Their available list included Josh Anderson, Matt Calvert, Sam Gagne, Jack Johnson, Kyle Quincy, Corpora Salo. And then they wanted Vegas to take someone like William Carlson, who currently has 23 goals and 14 assists. That's unbelievable. Unreal.

The Blue Jackets wanted Vegas to take William Carlson, who again has 23 goals and 14 assists. So they paid Vegas to take this man. In that payment, they sent David Clarkson to Vegas, which is okay. That's a favor. Plus a 2017 first round pick and a 2019 second round pick. So that

Vegas would take off Take William Carlson Out of their system There you go That's my Wow Dave Clarkson's a Las Vegas Golden Knight

Yeah I didn't know that So was Mikhail Kharbosky Yeah That I knew And Kuhlman was he No No

No who'd they take from Islanders I can't remember And they took the Islanders first and second No you know what it was Yeah They took like some

Pending UFA I want to say it was Who's the goalie Berube I want to say they took him and Grabowski in exchange for like that's highway robbery right there

you know what I gotta get on this Vegas article you know what your next article needs to be what the worst trades of 2017 so far and the number one worst trade oh you mean 2017 you're looking back at the entire calendar year of 2017

oh I see what you mean what are the worst trades in 2017 just the year I mean, it might as well just be a Vegas article. Well, no, because I think the worst trade was probably Edmonton and the New York Islanders. Strong for Eberle. That was a pretty bad trade.

I feel like... What was the point of that trade? Trying to remember exactly who it was. It might have been the Islanders. The Islanders are a team that... Their playoff berth is not guaranteed. And their first round pick is going to Vegas. What if the Islanders

Miss the playoffs They're a lottery team Well Anyone who doesn't miss Or sorry Anyone who misses the playoffs Is a lottery team What if

Imagine Vegas Wins their division And gets the lean I think they will anyway They have a lottery Protected pick No it's not Oh it's not lottery

Oh okay I thought they did Yeah but they still got How many cracks at it How many first round picks Does Vegas have this year Actually Just go

Just tell me All of Vegas' first round picks For the next three years It's not Yeah We've We've gone to Okay

Sorry I don't know why I thought that Me neither We all thought that Yeah It was a report And then Elliot denied it Oh maybe it was one of those things

I got it I got it Was suggested So apparently in 2018 They only have one first round pick But next year They've got three seconds Three thirds

That's weird Yeah In the next The next three years They only have one First round Oh you know what I think it was for that draft

Because remember They had like three picks In the first round So that was it But they still got So Oh boy Yeah

This upcoming draft Is light for them A first A second No third Pittsburgh's fourth Their own And Carolina's fifth

Their own And the Leafs sixth And no seventh The next year Adam Take it away First round they got one first round

three in the second round three in the third round one in the fourth two in the fifth one in the sixth and one in the seventh and then the next year basically almost the same

first round them second round three of them and then the rest of the rounds they have won is that good? so you were saying the Islanders

the Islanders have two first round picks this year wow right okay so I got confused the Islanders they traded last year so what the Islanders did

actually was kind of clever yeah so they that is clever yeah they got rid of their first two Vegas basically saying please take Grabowski

off her hands and they have two they have their own first and Calgary's first and their own second

and Calgary's second in this upcoming draft because of the Hammonick deal and potentially and they do have Calgary's second round pick either this year or next

boy that's another one if Calgary misses the playoffs well they're looking pretty good but there was a while where it wasn't looking as secure

wait if the Flames missed the playoffs in 2019 Islanders received the 2019 second round pick If they make the playoffs 2019 They get the 2020

Second round It's conditional But they eventually Will get it So I guess Yeah I understand Grabowski in a first And a second

For 2019 to Vegas Update Senators Still the only team boned Still Unless they're not And they win Darlene

Anyway Not the Yeah No No Who's getting You know who's getting in Edmonton

No Edmonton No Why not He's going to Edmonton Cancel the league It'd be a lot more fun If Edmonton gets up

Wait If Edmonton gets him That's the best I want Edmonton To have everybody And still lose Okay Easily the most fun scenario

Yes Jesse nailed it They win Darlene And they still suck And then they trade Darlene For like I don't know Friggin

I'm trying to think of Like an Adam Larson Comparable No Cody Ceci Cody Oh no No, but then he's going to be a cent anyway.

No. No. If he ends up in Ottawa, does he become Eric Carlson? How dare you. Get out of the studio. Carlson, because you're Eric Carlson-son. You're fired. You're banned.

The best dad joke tweet we've received recently is the James Van Riemstuyck van. Is it called the Van Van Riemstuyck? If he buys a van I forget who tweeted that at us But you were all tagged in it That's funny Does he call it the van van ringstick? I want the show to end

There's a lot of people who just like it to end forever Just because of all the terrible dad jokes we've made I feel like we made progress Let's just shut it We made progress, we got one wrong On who wants to be a millionaire And we're all the way back down to 32 grand But thanks for playing anyway

How is anybody supposed to get that reference? Who Wants to Be a Millionaire is a fairly popular program. Or at least it was. 20 years ago. Thank you. 20 years ago? I barely know what you're talking about. Are you serious?

Name all the lifelines. You know what? It's because I watched an audience. Okay, that's one. Yeah. Call a friend. Yes, and? 50-50.

Yeah! Oh, way to go, Grandpa! Good guess! This thing about going I had no idea you go back to the beginning if you get a question I don't know at the beginning there's like tears I know this because I watched the clip recently of the guy who called his dad to tell him he was gonna win the million Okay, have you not seen that clip? It was it was the super smart guy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I seen that. Okay Yes, it was difficult to get there

So not Chicago's year Shut up. So now Chicago's here. That's what we got to. Somehow we got to all that starting out in Chicago. Yeah, I guess. Cool. Story came out today, and maybe we were all wrong about Shane Doan.

Yeah, well, keep going. And I don't mean about Shane Doan's retirement because it was time. But maybe it was about people said they handled it quite briskly. They handled it without class Without what? Without class I'm getting sick so I don't have a voice to do it Louis Domingue

Who I will admit is not Not like you know he's not like your He's not Freddie Anderson he's not Andre Vasilevsky That's so rude Louis Domingue Andre Vasilevsky Did a story with Raw Charge and Raw Charge

Is SB Nation's Tampa Bay Lightning affiliate. Right? Fair? Yes. So here's what he said. Talking about his situation

with the Coyotes before he ended up in Tampa. He said, they got Scott Wedgwood and I didn't think anything of it. And by the way, Scott Wedgwood, goaltender.

I thought it was just another move to get stronger at that position. Then, I was on waivers and then I'm sigh, this is where the story gets interesting

because I got put on waivers didn't get claimed, and they didn't want to send me down to the AHL. They wanted me to keep at home while they were trying to deal me somewhere, trying to find me a spot. For a good week and a half, I was left without ice or a gym or any support from the team. I was just home waiting for a call. They told me to rent my own ice, brackets, chuckles.

I was there. I gave my old friend Shane Doan a call. He came out to the ice with me in an afternoon with his son. I rented ice at midnight just to shoot pucks and skate because I was tired of being at home. So that is horrible and makes the Coyotes look like a bunch of complete asshats. And we have friends at Raw Charge, but I would be remiss if I didn't mention that the story has evolved. In fact, there were tweets in the last five minutes.

And Louis Domingue himself responded. Yeah, and he's still responding. So I'll start with Craig Morgan, who covers the Coyotes. Let me see on his profile for who. He's a columnist slash Coyotes writer for AZ Sports. He is Craig S. Morgan on Twitter if you want to follow Important piece of missing information here, Craig says Louis Domingue declined an ECHL assignment from the Coyotes

The Coyotes have three AHL goalies in Miska, Hill, and Langhammer Louis was offered a place to play while the Coyotes found him a new home And then he said, okay, let's play that out Those three goalies are part of their future They wanted them developing with their best minor league team. Louie wasn't part of the future. Why send them to the ECHL? Why couldn't Louie go to the ECHL for, as you call it, a short time to stay in shape?

Because their development staff is in Tucson. Practice time means as much as game time. So that's Craig Morgan. Oh boy. Boy, there's a lot. So Louie said three hours ago. A lot of important info missing here. Like, for example, the facts that in the same interview, I said how thankful I was to the Coyotes for giving me a chance to play in the NHL.

Make sure you listen to the whole thing before basing your opinion on something. He responds to something else. Craig said, let's play this one out. Craig, your employer fires you and offers you a gig at a local high school, high school newspaper. I bet you jump on that. Jump on that question mark. Listen, guys, everything worked out. in the end the whole point of this was to talk about how i moved on from all that because he

said in the interview he almost quit hockey yeah and the last thing i'm gonna say is i loved everything about arizona the fans were great to me and it's too uh bad i think he meant to say things didn't work out but at the end of the day so grateful to have played there let's remember the good things and move on from the bad ones now eight minutes ago he tweeted a two-parter I don't understand why people make this story as if I trashed the coyotes. It's not about how I was treated at all. It's about how I had to challenge myself to get back on my feet. The only reason why I played, or sorry, why I was in this situation in the first place

was because of my poor play. Oh, that's pretty good. If you guys listen to the actual interview and not read the interview, you clearly see that I'm not trashing the coyotes at all. yes it wasn't the best situation how it got handled but at the end of the day it's not about that but only about overcoming difficult times two lightning emojis here's here's my question why is telling the truth trashing the team maybe the team's actions were just trash and the truth trashes the team well and i mean he does trash himself for not being good and i mean

if he was good they would have played him sure um but maybe maybe instead of saying he trashed the team because i don't even in that original quote there's nothing about that that's trashing them he's telling you what happened and when he tells you what happened listen to him i feel uh i feel bad for louis first of all i feel really bad for raw charge because these blogs particularly the SB Nation, they have a lot of trouble with NHL teams getting access. I gotta imagine this

is gonna be a big kick in the balls for their future access. I'd love to know how Louie's gonna receive them in the future, how Tampa's PR guy is gonna handle them. I think I know their PR guy. I'm pretty sure it's Trevor Van Otzenberger who used to be the Marlies PR guy. I would love to know what the Coyotes

think about this whole mess. And what I was thinking while reading that whole thing was you know welcome to a bigger NHL market Louis

like it's dude stop tweeting stop tweeting about this stop tweeting about this

I'm sure you'll be asked tomorrow at practice or something or after the game or whatever

you can address it there stop tweeting about it you're fine is this his first like NHL crisis

probably I never would have expected a Louis Domingue interview period I remember his first game And it was against the Habs

And that was a big deal Because I believe He's a Francophone I think he played in the Q And that was a big thing And then you never really heard About Louis Domingue ever again You know

Because he plays in Arizona And that's unfortunate But then You know He's been in Tampa For five minutes He does one interview And this happens to him

It just It seems like Regardless of what happened Or what he said He's handling it poorly But this is why This is why We never get the truth

From these guys he told the truth and people say he trashed the team oh so you're dumping on the reaction to it

not the story or what he said absolutely okay so if he tells the truth how is he trashing the team he's yeah

you can trash the team based on his truth but that's what happened yeah so why is that if he tells you yeah he just said listen

and he did say I wouldn't have been in that position if it wasn't for my terrible play right or my poor play, whatever word he used. Well, he said that long after the fact, though.

But he might have said that in the interview as well. I haven't read the full transcript. The point I'm trying to make is he is telling the truth or his truth, and that part of it doesn't make the Coyotes look good. Louis Domingue's job is to play goalie, not to make the Coyotes not look good. And Louis Domingue just told the truth, and the Coyotes don't look good. don't tell me that he's trashing them I don't think, listen, and the reason

I instantly went to Shane Doan on this is because there's a history here and Shane Doan has been pissed off at the Coyotes even when he was playing with them and then he was the one taking shots on Domingue on the ice this is my point, maybe where there's smoke there's fire, and maybe Louis Domingue isn't

trashing the organization and God, you know what sucks? he's gotta come out and say I'm so grateful I'm so grateful, I'm so grateful fuck, can we just say It sucked. Let him say a thing. Let him say a thing.

I didn't like the way they treated me. Or he didn't even say that. He just said, this is what they did. They left me without ice. They left me without support. And I wasn't part of the future plans. And I had to book my own ice. And let it be.

You are the one who's making it. If you're believing that Louis Domingue trashed the Arizona Coyotes, then you are the one who is taking it that way. He's telling a story. You're putting the narrative to it. Well, and this was, to me, a classic case of a story blowing up because people are bored at work. Oh, yeah.

It's like a 3 o'clock in the afternoon story. Yeah, I'm getting more and more interested in when stories break. And this was broken at a very dead news time, kind of. It wasn't a very busy news day, really, in the NHL. No, tomorrow's going to be a little bit more busy. There's a Leaf game, first of all. They're retiring. That's all that matters.

Yeah With the Leafs Obviously Oh yeah No and I think the biggest story Of the day Was what

UC Okanen got claimed Off waivers Which I actually think Was a good pick up Now this story comes out And the Coyotes Who are just so easy To beat up on

This story I think people Is this an example The Coyotes were wrong In this situation So I'll bash the Coyotes Based on his truth Or maybe that's just

The way it works And people are not Used to hearing that truth You know I'm not even Back up you're right Cause I don't fault The Coyotes You're right

What are they doing That they didn't do To Alex Staloc A couple years ago Or the Leafs Sorry Oh for sure We don't know

The inner workings Of an NHL team Maybe this goes on All the time In the rings maybe Maybe this is the Unglamorous side Of being a hockey player

Exactly And also I mean there's Other stories Ben Scrivens Was telling me one time He had a He had a terrible

Terrible transition I'm trying to remember from where I want to say it was like Edmonton to Bakersfield When he got sent down Or maybe it was after the trade to Montreal I'm trying to remember But he was just sitting in limbo doing nothing Shoot I'm trying to remember

It's rough for goalies It's You know it's nice when you can find A good situation Right? Like the Leafs are very fortunate To always bring it back to the Leafs That they were able to find a home so quickly

For Casimir Kaskiswo Sent him to Chicago Right away Didn't have three guys Sitting around Great Don't have three guys Sitting around in the NHL

Don't have three guys Sitting around in the AHL Don't have to demote anyone To the ECHL He found a nice situation Doesn't always work out like that Sometimes you go You know

You have no future here Alex Daylock Go home At least for him It was the end of the season I suppose But even if you look at a guy Like Frankie Corrado

You want to sit around for two seasons? Like, that's not fun. It sucks. That's just the reality of it, though. Yeah, exactly. Josh Levo. And he resigned.

He didn't have to resign. Mad Men was a show of scenes and clips. That show dragged sometimes, but there's some really, really good quotes. No, every moment of Mad Men was perfect. Don't say that. Yeah? How dare I? You're right.

There's one that I think of all the time between, who is it, Peggy? And who's Jon Hamm's character again? Don Draper. Don Draper. Thank you. I forgot. I haven't watched it in like five years. Um, she's moaning to him about, she didn't get recognition for some kind of project that she worked on and she goes, and you never say thank you. And Jon Hamm goes, that's what the money is for. And Holy, he's scary when he's angry. He's scary. You know, Frank Corrado or Louis Domingue or whoever you are. And, hey, you don't pay attention to me. We pay you! I'm just a bench warmer.

I'm just a healthy scratch every night eating popcorn. The popcorn is free! And you make money to eat it! Like, imagine, okay, so you got a guy like Frank Corrado on your team, who I was cheering for every day to get him in the lineup. But, you know, when he was out of town, the second he opened his frickin' mouth, The second he You're all in too

Do I want Do I need this Do I need this From a guy who's Fringe on my roster In the first place Who I pay I pay this guy

Hundreds of thousands Of dollars Yes Whenever However NHLers get paid I know it's not Bi-weekly Whatever it is

Oh is it I'm pretty sure it's bi-weekly During the season I know that's how NBA players are paid Every two weeks You're going to the bank And doing this

It's probably direct deposit You don't even have to do that And I've got to listen to you lip in the media? Get out of here! Conditional seventh! Future considerations. Get out of here, conditional sixth! We're going to trade you to the future two-time Stanley Cup winning champions.

Screw you, Frank Corrado. I'm going on this rant. Louis Domingue didn't ask for this, to my knowledge. I'm joking about Frank, by the way. No, of course. So Louis Domingue didn't say this, but there is part of me that feels bad for these players, and you hear about them.

you know you can just picture it you know him you know skulking on the ice at midnight like freaking charlie brown oh no all i have to do is practice hockey all day like yeah exactly but whenever you want to get like outraged at two in the afternoon for whatever reason uh after reading a story like this uh step one don't step two like take a moment to realize like i don't know how wronged was he two things harsh realities of the nhl sometimes you find out about them because the nhl really doesn't want you to know how harsh it can be and they found him a home yeah fair fair but the point i'm making is the nhl it's not marketable to say Sometimes life's shitty

Like it's just not right But it is sometimes life's shitty You would hope one person doesn't cause another For life to be shitty But I think the point we're trying to make here Is life is not shitty Yeah but it can be in certain ways Relative to them it's shitty

Yeah okay In relative terms it's shitty But was he being wronged I mean man I think that is up to interpretation The point is he's found himself a home and I think that's what's lost in this

and I agree with him in that the Coyotes found him a home sure Louis Domingue didn't go out and sign with the

they found him a home and he took the ball and he ran with it and he's being successful and they're a great team in the NHL so the point I'm trying to make here is

Louis Domingue didn't trash the Coyotes and maybe the Coyotes aren't terrible but there's a little bit of smoke there Shane Doan Hansel

Duclair and now Domingue I would all I would say well Hansel they just like fired him out of town and Dome was pissed off about it.

Remember that? Oh, well, I thought Dome was being unreasonable. They got a first, yeah. But we also thought Dome was being unreasonable when it all came out about how he retired. Fair enough. So maybe it's time we start, my point is maybe we start looking at them going,

hmm, hmm, might be something there, maybe not. To go with my point though, you think Steve Eisenman is going to enjoy this memo? I don't think Steve Eisenman is going to enjoy this memo. He is making headlines. I don't think he's going to care. He's not going to care. You probably give him a,

Send him an email or something That's not even a passing thought Do you think Steve He just stares ahead for a minute And then you just hear a voice Email sent He can just Mind Siri

Me send Instead of Siri it's Stevie LouisDomingue at Coyotes.com It's an old one I think Adam's point is they're not the Patriots This probably isn't the most strict run organization there are probably many holes there

in Arizona and they're starting to come out and the rips are starting to show and stop when you read those quotes first off when you're reading a quote that's this big from an article that's this big people can't see your hands when you're reading a quoted article

a quote from an article read the whole article you go wow that is a striking comment I will need some context for that Before reacting to it And I know that's the internet thing React first then read later

Try to read first And I say that having not fully read the whole article But I deduced From scanning it what it was all about I was going to say never do that But I mean Authors do it all the time I've done it a couple times

It's a little teaser You're trying to get people to click the link So I guess the onus is on don't react until you've clicked the link. Bingo. Love it. Anyway, listen guys, I just want to say I'm glad that we've currently spent more time on

Louis Domingue now than I think we ever have before. And may ever again. So I just want to take this moment Enjoy our Louis Domingue moment. No, no, even then it would be about Kucherov and Stamkos and Hedman and Vasilevsky. And let's do the press conference.

He's holding it back. He's holding it back. You gotta let the... The Charlotte Checkers sold more than 7,000 hot dogs last night during their 3-0 win over the Bridgeport Sound Tigers.

Holy crap, really? At today's home game, they'll sell zero. Did you know that tonight the Charlotte Checkers will play a game in their arena with no fans?

I did know that. Why? And I've only ever seen that in pro sports, in soccer. And it's usually when the fans burn half the building down. Actually, the Charlotte Checkers did this

last year as well. Well, not last year. 2016 last year. So, do you want to know the reason why? I know the reason why. I want to know the reason. Plunging temperatures and a forecast of two to four inches

of snow in the Charlotte area. Now, before we make fun, pretty hard to get upset about a city that probably doesn't have a snow plow in it. Southerners, I want you to message in or people from like even the Midwest I suppose. Are you from Charlotte? I want to see the pictures. I want people from Charlemagne. If you listen to the show. No, he's not from Charlotte. I know Listen, uh, sorry? Pictures. Yeah, send me pictures from Charlotte. Well, yeah, send me pictures first of all

But also what is it like when it snows there? I gotta know I gotta know because like we got that much snow a couple days ago and I remember going oh that's easy and I took like the 10 minutes it took to shovel because you're not even lifting no pushing it's it's hilarious but again that's just life and like our vehicles are built to withstand it it's there's this meme that goes around like oh when it snows an inch in the south and it's a bunch of cars on fire but what's amazing is the pictures in the meme change all the time because that happens every time it snows I just don't know how to cope

We get four inches of snow, like, three times a week in December. Winnipeg gets it every day. Yeah. Buffalo gets it every hour. It's amazing to me. Richland, Washington is where my family is. Richland, Washington. Is that West Coast?

West Coast. Washington State. Now, it is a northern-ish state, right? It's very, very far north. But the West Coast is temperate. Exactly. So you got Seattle. Thank you, Steve.

Weatherman Steve. Is there precipitation coming in, Stephen? I don't know. I thought I could learn meteorology in seven or eight hours, and it turns out it's actually harder than that. And feel bad. Shame, shame, shame, shame. Do you have family in Washington?

I have family in Richland, Washington. You're separate there. Unlike Seattle, which is super rainy, Richland is a desert because it's on the other side of the mountains. And they once got an inch of snow there, and it shut the city down. And when I say shut the city down,

I mean buses off, no public buildings open, no school, businesses closed, and literally the local news spent the entire day talking about how crazy the snow was and how everybody should stay home. The mayor said,

everybody stay home, stay home. And that is because before Canadians go and get high and mighty, oh, we can drive in the snow and the Americans can't. It's because they don't regularly do it like we do. And they don't regularly need a snowplow like we do. Think of how you were the first time you drove in snow. Oh, I was real great.

You know why? Because I'm Canadian. It's in my genetics. Oh, really? Is it? Oh, really? I don't think so. I think winter tires are in your genetics.

You were probably driving a car with winter tires. They're driving Corvettes 365 days a year. Everyone has a Corvette. Everyone. Man, when I worked at the zoo. Everyone in America has a Corvette. Everyone? All of them?

Fact. the best Corvettes know the facts about Corvettes when I worked in the zoo if it got above like 34

I think 34 Celsius is 100 degrees Fahrenheit yeah if it got above that people would not come they just didn't come damn no it's too hot

we can't handle it heat advisory smog advisory this advisory when I went to Vegas it was 100 at midnight when I was in Dubai different places right

It was 46 degrees, 100% humidity. Celsius? Stop it! Yep. Humidity, too. Thick humidity. That's disgusting. You've never experienced heat like this in your life.

It was, yeah, Abu Dhabi one day got up over 50. And it was, like, it's just. Did you go outside? For a few minutes. Wow. And that's the thing. I was talking to, I took, of course, I go to Abu Dhabi. First thing I want to do, tour a radio station.

so they have a they have a they have a virgin out there they have a virgin radio there so they we went to

104.4 virgin radio in Abu Dhabi because they have instead of you know we do ours on the .1 .3

.5 .7 they have 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 oh okay right because you can do that that means nothing

to anybody well 104.4 is weird nobody has that here I don't think anybody connected anyway sorry for all the nerds out there like me

anyway I'm talking to the guy guys the afternoon guys from Australia this is when I was like 21 Of course he was. Guy from LA, guy from Australia, someone else from China.

Anyway, this guy said, he said, the problem with living here, he's like, it sounds great. He said, but today it's 47 degrees. And he said, nobody can be outside. You can't do anything. That guy's from Australia. And he's like, it's a bit hot. And he said, basically, you get, I think it was sinusitis from all the air conditioning. You get sinus issues because the air conditioning.

Because the fake air is just blowing at you all day. All day. What is sinusitis exactly? I don't know fully, but it's basically, it's a pretty bad issue with your sinuses constantly being clogged. It's like bone-itis, except for your sinuses. Well, because I've gotten slight nosebleeds from just breathing in heat all the way along. Sinusitis, also known as a sinus infection, is an inflammatory response resulting in symptoms common are thick nasal mucus, plugged nose, and pain in the face.

So a lot of people suffer from a lot of headaches. Anyway. I didn't get it like that. Craziness, right? Anyway. I feel like that's going to reverse Edmonton Because when I was there you couldn't go outside For more than a couple minutes else you would freeze

Abu Dhabi is reverse Edmonton Both oil economies make sense Yeah but the locals are fine No not when it was minus 46 I don't think Edmontonians are like no Okay well they got to step up their game To the people from Saskatchewan I was dying

And five joggers ran by Morning It was minus 30 Go Rough Riders Riders They don't even say hi, they say riders And I'm just dying Dying

I still, I have told this story a bunch of times But there was a guy riding his bike Past me in, I want to say Regina Like sweatpants and running shoes The guy's wearing And I go It's a little cold to be doing that, don't you think? And he goes, oh man

Should have seen the other day It was minus 50, I couldn't go anywhere Because my gears froze up And I realized the only reason that man didn't go out that day is because his gears froze up His bike failed before he did canadians also have this thing We got a little bit small. Yeah, we got a small man complex going on No canadian wants to admit that it's cold and I think that's stupid I'll fully admit when it's cold and when i'm cold

But what I found out is that in other places that makes you seem like less of a man Everyone you are not or less of a canadian You're it's almost like you're anti-patriot if you say you're cold and i'm like you guys are all faking it I know you, all you motherfuckers are cold. Sorry. Everyone's got one friend from Winnipeg who waits in line for the club in a bubble vest. Yes! Whatever.

I'm from Winnipeg. From Winnipeg. Man, you don't know. You don't know. Where I'm from, it's on average like eight degrees colder. And you might not think that's significant, and it's not, but it is. And in the summer, it's eight degrees hotter because Winnipeg's crazy like that. There's like an 80 degree difference winter to summer there.

Minus 40 plus 40. It's always the same. In Winnipeg they have to drive through the city At night apparently With these anti-mosquito Trucks So what they do is they just shoot off Plumes of smoke into the air that kill all the mosquitoes

That seems bad I'm not sure if they still do it But from my friends in white radio that went to boot That were from Winnipeg I hope there's listeners in Scandinavia right now Going we don't care Don't care What country is that? You can't tell

I just said a region I have to say, people do like to complain about the cold, and it's kind of annoying. Because it's not that cold all the time. No, it's not. Here. You know? You can go outside, and it's not that cold. Or how about this?

Winter's cold. Spring is less cold. Temperate. Turning into hot. Summer's hot. Fall is hot going into cold. Thank you. About a dozen people will run the game.

as if they're actually fans in attendance. Black, who's the COO, I forget her first name. Oh, this is the Charlotte game. Tara Black, the COO, said, we sent everybody home. So our immediate staff, all of our executives ran the game.

We had the game officials because they were in town. We had a few special off-ice officials. We had everybody we needed to run a game and nobody we didn't. So that's kind of the experience. It's kind of cool. First question

It'd be weird to go to a game with no people But I guess you wouldn't be there Because then there'd be people Yeah, you're either running the game Or you're not there This is our most upvoted question It's from Ready Edgemont Six upvotes

And I am ready Consider me Edgemont Because I'm ready This is for Adam and Steve What's more likely to come October 2018? 1. Brent Seabrook in an Oilers jersey 2. Brent Seabrook in a Canucks jersey three

Brent Seabrook Brent Seabrook allergic two jerseys long time listener from Chicago keep up the great works and go Hawks

oh Marion took me a sack ooh that's a really good question

can we just can we forget the answer like that it's important that that question was asked um by the way Oilers

for sure Oilers I think for sure Oilers I think this is a year away I think this is a year away from getting solved I think Seabrook

stays a Blackhawk next season and then we'll go to the Oilers for sure sorry Canucks he doesn't get allergic he will not get allergic

that is so dark wow that's so mean so wow um I uh I've heard some

apparently there are rumors in Vancouver I have not heard them anywhere else and I don't know what the Vancouver media scene is like so I can't really

comment on it seems wacky It is a bit wacky The entire media scene Is Andrew Walker Yelling about things Boy He's gone there

And quickly become The center of all The irate sports blogs It's amazing I think he walks Into bookstores And it's like Staff picks

And he's like Well now I know Where the worst books are And he yells it As loud as he can Yeah Thanks for telling me The specials

I don't need to hear What food is the worst Here in this restaurant I'll have the hot dog Andrew's the best I'll have the hot dog You're not going to pull one over on me I'm Andrew Walker

Watching my good friend Andrew react to all this stuff Has been amazing Tell me I'm wrong But what I love Is the fact that all of a sudden Ken Holland is going to run the Canucks next year Have you heard that? No

It was in 31 thoughts But that was the thing It wasn't Elliot reporting it It was Elliot saying there are rumors out of Vancouver and people are reporting it there. So he wasn't taking ownership of that. But what I found interesting about it was that we hadn't heard anything about it. You would think that'd be bigger news. Well, it's like someone sent me one recently, like the Goodbranson to the Leafs rumor.

Goodbranson for Nielsen and a third. That was out of the Vancouver papers. How did that not make its way here? like how did that take time to it's Leaf related news shouldn't it have

traveled here at light speed I think because nobody believes it like nobody on the media side here is going to be like yeah the Leafs seem like

a good Branson team it's a wacky rumor it is it is a wacky rumor anyway Ken Holland with the Canucks that would involve

the Canucks firing Bim Jenning that'd be a sad day I don't know if they'll ever fire Bim Jenning I had to correct myself from the correction yeah

Any other questions, Jesse? Nah, not really. Zaitsev's two weeks away. Who said that? And finally we can take the Polak stuff away. Mr. Darren Dreger of the I Suck Network said Zaitsev is expected to have

a walking boot removed early next week. He'll be back on the Leafs within two weeks. A totally silly network. Man, he's still on a walking boot? Seems like further than a week away. Jason Spezza was the healthy scratch Monday before scoring

scored two goals on Tuesday why do I keep shut up Steve fuck sorry no temper climate temper it

temper it anything else no the microphone should just work that's it okay well we're gonna leave it at that ladies and gentlemen

I may not be here for the second podcast next week I'm just warning you not that anybody cares all that much but I got this wedding coming up

well no but I just like you know Steve and Jesse will still be here but I may be taking off because of the wedding 10 days today 10 days today so it's just the second one next week or both probably the second one the first one I'll be around for

I just don't want to like see you it's okay man we can talk about this off mic I'm just throwing it out there we don't need to do this Yeah we don't Temper climate But We love you guys

Thank you so much for listening And Jesse's got something The Van Van Reamsteak tweet Was from MikeyLaz1 on Twitter I found the screenshot Thanks man If you got a Dodge It'd be a Caravan

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