The Steve Dangle Podcast - Marth Eigth | February 16, 2024
Episode Date: February 16, 2024On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Morgan Reilly is appealing his suspension today (00:00), John Tortorella has thoughts on young kids these days (08:45), Auston Matthews saves the Leafs aga...inst the Flyers (20:30), Grabo was in the building! (56:00), Jarmo Kekäläinen has been relieved of his duties as GM of the Columbus Blue Jackets (1:05:00), Tampa's 3rd jersey (1:14:30), and the Pens lose Jake Guentzel and who sells at the trade deadline?? (1:20:30). Join SDP VIP: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0a0z05HiddEn7k6OGnDprg/join Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/thestevedanglepodcast Visit this episode's sponsors: For all the odds and to learn more visit https://betmgm.com/DANGLE Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://igamingontario.ca/en/player/responsible-gambling Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Must be 19+ or older to play. Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake For general inquiries email: info@sdpn.ca Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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before you were i've been a hate it's a morbid no it's not all right let's talk about let's talk
about last night before the game morgan riley uh it was announced he will have an in-person
hearing today. It's probably going on right now with Brad Treliving, Morgan Riley's agent,
and the lawyers from the NHLPA. This will be in-person appealing directly to G-Bets.
And what's interesting about the way this works is had the NHL gone to six games,
they would have been able to appeal to Gary. Gary would have been able to uphold the suspension,
and then they would have been able to go to a neutral arbitrator. But knowing
that they probably were over-suspending this player, they went, ah, let's not do six,
let's do five so they can take the arbitrator out of it so whatever gary betman says today
is final i have to ask the nhlpa how they ever allowed this type of negotiation to happen
i you know it's interesting with the nhl too and i want to say this because they didn't do
anything for like a quarter century the mlb if you appeal your suspension you get to play
because because the way an appeal works is that you're appealing to the the powers that be or to
a higher court in the case of law right and a lot of times people who are appealing are out on out
on whatever they're on bond out on bail whatever um in this particular case in hockey you have to
serve the suspension you never get those games back nope and the only thing you might get is a
few a few bucks back which i mean for nhl players is a lot of money but at the end of the day you
still lose those games and the team still loses that cap space which then can be reactivated
retroactively it's all a pain in the ass it's an incredible how how the pa even let it get to this
point is shocking well like one one of the things uh the other day when they announced all those
guys were sick marner and tavaris and then the next day kneelander at practice i'm like okay
how many more illnesses or injuries away are the leafs from not being able to ice a full roster
because of the cap yeah i uh i didn't know the answer and that is uh it's a very common theme
with the nhl it is so i do like though that you said nhlpa lawyers so there's going to be a lawyer
there arguing on behalf of morgan riley and one arguing on behalf of ridley grigg because they're
both members of the union right that's how it works that's not how it works oh it's just random
No, in this case, the NHL is aligned with Ridley Gregg.
Ridley Gregg is a product of the man, you could say.
Wow.
Yeah.
Ridley Gregg.
Ridley Gregg is pro-establishment.
Yeah.
He's total cop.
How dare you, Ridley Gregg?
No, he's not even a cop.
He's a hall monitor.
Whoa.
He's the one who's digging you, like giving you, he's like the student that gives you
detention for going to the bathroom and hanging out too long by your lockers.
listen no one likes the leafs um we've acknowledged that morgan riley deserved to be suspended um no
it's not enough steve no yeah but for me this is uh uh how do you like your monster dr frankenstein
they've gone all this time without giving out adequate suspensions and now they're finally
going to do it against the team that i cheer for fuck you yeah exactly excuse me while i watch the
world burn the cj wrote an article in the athletic today about how there's a possibility that riley
could get that one game back and they get down to four and that since they're having the hearing
today and it usually takes one to three days post hearing for gary buttman to make his decision that
riley could miss the four games and then gary can make that decision in time for the fifth
and then he could play the fifth and it's 39 000 a game that he whoa that's a lot of money that's
what he's fighting for today that's ready for 40 grand which is not insignificant at all
Dodge Caravan.
That's eight times the maximum fine under the CBA.
Can I ask you guys something?
A lot of money.
How hilarious is it?
Because when it was reported yesterday that Gary Bettman had moved up his time frame to see that.
I'm like, you mean Gary Bettman did his job?
Did his job.
And what's hilarious is that when I remember with Dennis Wyden, remember that was the 20 game thing for hitting the ref?
Yes.
Gary Bettman like took his time meeting with.
He was like, no, I'm not going to do that.
i'm gonna go as slow as humanly possible i'm gonna let the biggest story in hockey right now
drag on for as long as possible what's hilarious about the nhlpa here too and this is all stuff i
hope marty walsh is writing down on his notepad for the next uh cba discussions is um there is
no timetable that gary betman is held to for the appeals so he you have the right to a an appeal
and you have the right to it relatively quickly but there's no like set hours it should be within
48 hours within 24 hours within 72 nothing is written down have you noticed that every single
conversation that involves this man involves none of us knowing what's going on and vague
rules that he can just sort of bend to his will yeah notice that it's on purpose like that's
literally why it's written like that so he can make any decision he wants and he's been in charge
since 1993 he's gonna be in charge for another what three four seasons yeah good league at least
yeah great league um now uh Detroit and Vancouver were warned before the game and everybody said
well it's because of Morgan Riley no it's because Wallman did the gritty yeah oh yeah Alexander
Ovechkin got accosted for pretending to light his stick on fire uh over a decade ago because of
Morgan Rielly in 2024.
Again, again, what is with this phenomenon
of everyone pretending like they just flicked on a hockey game
for the first time?
It's always about the Leafs.
And by the way, the Wallman thing
and the Morgan Rielly thing are completely different, right?
The Ridley Gregg thing, I'll call it,
because it's really, it was Ridley's move
with that, you know, the slap shot into the empty net
that caused the thing.
Jake Wallman is the cause of this situation,
which is he did the gritty and,
oh see we can't celebrate after goals no one has said that no one has said that everybody loves
the alexander ovechkin yeah my stick is on fire i didn't mind the wallman thing and i know that
nikita zadorov taunted him a little bit after they got mixed up and he did a like a a boomer
version of the gritty i sure did no kita zadorov cannot gritty to save his life not really he can
flap his arms though and i was told by twitter that that's how you deal with your problems
that's how hockey players always deal with their problems uh you know it's funny that uh twitter
chose to focus on that one and not the one that i chose to focus on um the florida panthers didn't
like a hit so each of them grabbed a partner and beat the shit out of them that's fine on the
pittsburgh penguin completely fine well it's allowed yeah now i uh i love this quote uh
torts is for better or worse always a good quote and he was asked about it coming into toronto
um and it takes him a bit to formulate his words because you can you can almost see the wheels
turning like if i say that i'll get suspended if i say that i'll get suspended that'll get me a fine
uh okay i'll just say this you can see him trying to get to the point but trying to uh satisfied as
well so go ahead it's a dumb league it is it's changed for coaches too and we've had to make
adjustments because there are so many mistakes made and i i guess the thing with the young
athletes is sometimes you have to wait your turn right as far as gaining respect and and not
wanting everything right now not expecting everything right now as far as ice time as far
where's your contract, whatever it may be.
Sometimes it's good just to wait your turn and earn it.
I think that's where I think the athletes have changed.
They have entourages around them that I think direct them the wrong way.
And the hierarchy of a room, the hierarchy of what it is to be a pro,
the process you have to go through as a pro,
I think is lost a little bit with the athlete now.
And it's something I miss terribly in being in the league for so long,
seeing where it's gone to now.
great athletes great skill great speed but the the mental and the understanding what it is to
be a pro and and respecting the national hockey league that's where i have some struggles now
there was there was a lead up there that he kind of hums and haws and then and then jumps to it's
a dumb league but i um that's the oldest thing that's ever been said yeah like no one has ever
said anything older oh the young kids these days they enter the league and they have no respect
for anybody there's a shut up there's there's an old lady in japan who was 120 years old who
was quoted as saying i'm 120 years old and it was less old yeah i think we just heard that yeah
that's the dude at the office who's like oh there's a new guy in here just out of university
think he's all cool so oh these rookies you know you can't come into the league with these
entourages and their bling dude like what the fuck are you talking about you old man adam adam and
jesse are so good that sometimes when i see there's a big quote that everyone's retweeting
um i go oh i'm going to intentionally avoid that until tomorrow i'm glad you did and i avoided it
so and here's the irresponsible thing that all the outlets did is they put john tortorella's face
and in big letters it's a dumb league send tweet and that was it if i didn't know any better which
i didn't i would have assumed the decision to suspend riley was the was the crux right it was
either the decision to suspend him uh not long enough or too long that's what he was talking
he's talking about like the people the players hang out with who's he's talking about rookies
coming in and have an attitude i think that's what he went off on is the illusion that ridley
grig has an entourage around him yeah because he told him that would be awesome second year in the
league and he's doing all these slap shots he's back in my day you weren't even allowed to take
a slap shot unless you were 52 no no he's really got his finger on the pulse you know what hockey
of all sports needs to do go back to the way it used to be dude you know john we were making fun
of ridley grigg you know tongue-in-cheek saying he's a cop john tortorella is the cop i think he
is stewie griffin establishment you always know what's best like he's just and what's funny about
it what's funny about it to me is it's like he john tortorella used to fight this like i think
there was a story and forgive me if i'm sort of misquoting this but this was maybe 10 years ago
and he didn't like the music that was being played in one of the teams he was coaching
stressing was either vancouver or columbus and it was like he had like tried to get them to stop
listen to hip-hop and go more like classic rock or something like that before the game i don't
remember and you're just you're just like it's it's he can't help it this is who he is but it
is quite funny to see a quote like that like i gee i can't i can't say like acting like wayne
gretzky and mark messi and those guys didn't have entourages acting like mario lemieux didn't have
an entourage come on now now ridley grigg is not any of those players but he's a young cool
heel guy and he's probably the toast of ottawa right now of course he's got some people that
want to be next to him and what what what does ridley grigg gain from this other than national
spotlight and name brand recognition he's gonna get endorsement deals because of this he is okay
okay maybe this transitions to another topic okay um because like toronto media circus
like they obviously treat it that way well and it is yeah it is yeah sure anybody who tells me
that it's not at this point i'm like yeah i don't want to tell you sure sure okay um this story is
obviously a big story while John Tortorella
is coming to town and that is
something that the Flyers couldn't help
right
why did they name Sean
Couturier the captain
I was going to get to that next right before
they they were just
in Philly their last game was in Philadelphia
then they
between last game which was in
Philadelphia and their next game which
was not they named their captain
why
why did they do that
why is that because it's toronto i don't is that why has to be because it's true no no philly's
one of the biggest markets in the sport here's the thing they were winners of four straight
headed into last night's game so they're feeling good but they but like i don't understand why you
couldn't you would want to have like a press conference and and and in philadelphia put the
jersey on and everything yeah i'm sure they'll do that but yeah i don't know guaranteed every
flyers reporter whether they tell you or not is privately irked by that i would be pissed too also
john tortorella said that uh in the the season opener that they weren't gonna name a captain
this season so that the fact that they did i'm i'm hoping some philly journalists do a little
digging as to why this happened because this is strange not that it's bad it's just weird do you
want a quote by john tortorella talking about the locker room's crappy music uh please give me the
yes this is the thing so it's 2017 okay the penguin this is from gregor stinsky when he
used to write for yahoo uh the columbus blue jackets are facing elimination on tuesday night
at the hands of the pittsburgh penguins who are up 3-0 in their first round series
and this is what john tortorella said about that situation we're you know what we're thinking
and i just told them i just want to be able for them to put that goddamn radio on after tonight's
game at 10 o'clock that's all we're concerned about is to feel good about ourselves tonight
after this game then we'll worry about what the odds are after that and this we're not even looking
at a 3-0 that this team has has played really well this year and has grown tremendously i do not want
them leaving tonight not enjoying a playoff win and then we'll talk about what we have to do and
yeah so they play this crap for music when you come in after the game i want them to be able to
put that on, and just jam with it so they can feel good about themselves.
Then we'll decide how we approach the rest of the series from there.
Okay.
There you go.
He wants them to be able to play their crap music after they win.
So he's not saying not to play it.
He's saying, I want you to play it.
They play this crap music, and I want to hear that crap.
When we come back to the dressing room, we win our game.
I want you to earn your crap music.
Come on.
He did.
I swear to you there's a story about him trying to get them to switch the music, though.
I swear to you it's out there.
Yeah, I assume there's another quote somewhere in there, too.
But this one was about the crap music.
That is funny.
That is funny.
This story happened 10 years ago.
So some of you are going to be hearing this again.
Some of you are going to be hearing it for the first time.
When I was in Philadelphia for the draft in 2014, there was a parking attendant and someone was driving where they shouldn't have.
what would you expect someone working at their job to say to you oh excuse me sir excuse me ma'am
you can't park there or whatever this dude storms up to the car and goes what are you nuts
and that to me at the time was the most philadelphia thing i had ever seen
then they hired john tortorella and i realized wait a minute that guy looked identical to john
tortorella i need to know is there a guy who works like for where do the flyers play what's
the name of the building wells fargo wells fargo center i need to know if there's a guy at wells
fargo in the wells fargo wagon in the wells fargo wagon asking people if they're nuts
who looks exactly like john tortorella he is made to coach the fly philadelphians old like they don't
they don't have like old man mentality no they have what are you nuts mentality yeah which is
like they're just abrasive man like i fan okay not all philadelphia but philly fans oh i know
people people what there are flyers fans who whenever we talk about this stuff they're like
no we're not well you are literally giving me you are being abrasive with me right now i got
crap the other day because i was talking about flyers fans uh throwing their ed snyder memorial
uh wristbands at the ice and then someone was like oh spreading more misinformation about flyers
that was over reported yeah no those weren't for ed snyder they were for something else and i'm like
that's incredible i think if you heard that
That was, I think, the point going a wee bit over your head.
Yes, absolutely.
Oh, God bless Philadelphia.
Yeah, no, it's amazing.
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Good for the Flyers.
Their dressing room apparently has really come together,
where it was pretty fractured before.
Good for Sean Couturier.
Second year of an eight-year deal.
Going to be the captain, or is the captain,
was wearing the C last night in Toronto.
um let's talk about the game the Leafs have back-to-back wins and back-to-back
hat tricks I'm gonna run through some of the Austin Matthews stats with you guys okay
we'll talk about the game we'll talk about Philly's comeback we'll talk about all that stuff
but let me just run through all the journalist tweets last night we're like I'm gonna get a
charge Matthews tweet out there right now okay starting with Jonas Siegel he's so silly Austin
Matthews is only 76 goals from catching Matt Sundin for the Maple Leafs franchise goals record
he's played 449 games fewer than sunday into this point now if he hadn't missed uh you know
some of the covet season some of the shortened stuff there's a chance that he's at at sunday's
level in and around in and around which is kind of nuts with i mean within arm's reach like he
may be reachable this year maybe yeah like he's more than a full season away from sunday yeah
but uh from our buddy arun uh no active player has recorded five or more hat tricks in a single
season aside from austin matthews who was the last player to do it oh i tried to steal a glance
at adam's laptop what was the question no active player has recorded five or more hat tricks in a
single season aside from austin matthews the last player to do it was wasn't it jesse can you guess
two babe die babe die was not babe die wasn't it reg noble no five no what's it it's all
oh 506 oh 506 oh it's oh 506 you're telling me babe die didn't do that i'm sure babe die did it
okay what did babe die do everything he did so did reg noble apparently because they keep coming up
in the record books but i i want to talk about act sunday active players no active players have
done it was not sundine and i'm not talking about leafs i'm talking about nhl wide no active player
in the entire nhl has done it chichu chichu jonathan chichu that's it you're talking about
leafs yeah no i said we were talking i just said no active player okay gotta listen yeah but i was
too i wasn't listening trying to yeah okay well fine austin matthews scored his fifth hat trick
of 23-24. Tied Sittler,
Dye, Noble. Who?
Dye!
Reg Noble for the most in a
single season in Leafs history,
which is pretty spectacular.
45 goals in his
first, and that's from the NHL
PR, by the way, because the NHL
loves the Leafs, remember.
45 goals in a team's first 52
games has only happened
21 times in NHL
history before Matthews did it tonight.
Name all 21. Name the last time it
happened and who was the player what is what is it how many and how many 45 goals in 52 games has
only happened 20 20 21 times in nhl history uh before austin matthews did it tonight uh
jogger or lemieux see ov you are right jesse
which one pick one uh jogger lemieux okay so it's lemieux that what year 95 96
yep that one you're both right 1996 that's pretty crazy huh and then so by the way most
hat tricks in a season just to expand on that stat um rick vive had four babe die had four
so rick vive did it in 83 84 babe died 22 23 matthews did it in 21 22 for them then
sittler died noble noble i've done five do you think if i went down to real sports i could get
a Babe Di jersey?
Man, I don't even think
Babe Di played for the Leafs.
I think he played
for the St. Pats.
We're looking it up.
I can get a St. Pats jersey.
Yeah, I think you would.
They have them.
Him and Reg Noble,
I think that's,
or there are arenas,
maybe Toronto arenas.
I could check for you tonight.
Oh, yeah, Matt.
Oh, let's go.
The Battle of Bay Street,
you could check, yeah.
Maddie could not be more excited.
I know.
That's all she's talking about.
Hey, did I tell you
I was going to the game?
Did I tell you?
Oh, you're one of those.
Take me out to the meat.
game you know what what is it maddie listen it's the first sold out scotia bank um women's hockey
game so first of many you're you're gonna be there for history because they're gonna set the
all-time attendance record again and it's gonna be cool to be a part of that so yeah i'm going to
the me game yeah also watch spooner get some tuck we were sent we were sent uh a bunch of toronto
a pwhl gear and we don't know who it's from and we're not sure if it's real yeah uh i'm happy
yeah i like free spooner and nurse jerseys or like jerseys jerseys and and uh we just don't
know who it's from there's no no nothing but there's something australia there's an australian
connection there no it's it's like from uh it's from a weird shipping company so it's it definitely
looks like it was printed on demand you know like yeah through like drop ship or not drop
but like print on demand services so i don't know i don't know if it's like real or no it's it's i
don't think it's real like well how do you know it's australian because is it because it's spelled
t-o-r-o-t-a-u-r i thought it was funny yeah you're laughing your way through your own show
here wait wait give me my knee give me my slap that knee baby let's go you're on the records
you were doing the record yeah what's the record steve what do you got there uh oh i didn't i so
i don't know can i go get a babe dive jersey we'll find out you can get a babe dive jersey i will buy
you a babe dive jersey thank you if you can okay tell me babe's real name
isn't it reginald i'll kick your ass and also no it's not
so i just get i just gotta guess every name in the english language you get one guess
no you get three guesses harrison no um bartholomew no is it actually babe no no okay that
i'll clarify that for you no it's not babe um homer cecil cecil cecil cecil why they just call
emcees babe die born may 13th 19 or sorry 1898 and adam was right or almost right he played
six games for the toronto maple leafs the rest were for the new york americans chicago blackhawks
uh hamilton tigers and toronto st pats yeah dude i think if you're gonna get an authentic jersey
jesse yeah first off it's got to be made of wool uh be hot as fuck hot hot just outrageously hot
and itchy you better be i want to see some underboob sweat i want a game worn i get that
what i want game worn game worn no back then they used to take the jerseys back you guys know that
right yes so with old jerseys this is how cheap the leafs used to be i think other teams used to
do it too but i can tell you specifically with the leafs when johnny bauer like wore a jersey
in the 50s at the end of the season he would have to give the jersey back to the team so somebody
else could potentially use it the next year and they would take all the jersey numbers off the
jerseys and reuse them this is how tight things work i was trying to find babe die highlights and
i couldn't it's crazy they don't have a babe die super cut there that's crazy still photos but no
hd cameras at the rink huh what a shock you know steve spent his summers watching austin matthews
all his goals from the previous season can't do that with babe die let me tell you about reg noble
okay no former past this guy was an animal no it's got to be freaking uh on tiktok set to like
meek mill yeah oh yeah like every other
yo the fact that they even got hockey dba has a picture of of babe die babe die they actually
got a picture of the guy like that that was a pretty rare he was five foot eight 150 pounds
He was the biggest man in the league.
He was 5'8", 150 pounds.
All right, how about this one?
Oh, what an animal.
What a beast.
How about this one?
Was Babe Dye overrated?
Because he never had a 40-goal season.
Boom!
Well, yo, have you readjusted him or not?
He had 38 goals in 29 games.
Boo, bum, get out of here.
Gretzky, 50 and 39.
Screw you.
Babe Dye had 30.
What is it?
38 and 29
That's crazy
Screw you Gretzky
You got nothing on
Babe Dye
And no assists
Okay here's
Zero assists
Six assists
Better question
Was he underrated
Because he won a championship
In the AAJ
With the Chicago Shamrocks
So he did
He played six games
For the Leafs
Did you mention that
Yes I did
Okay
How dare you
Okay there you go
202 goals and 41 assists
What a career
They don't
202 and 268
Like unreal
That's not bad
They don't have the majority of his playoff stats because it was pre-Depression.
They might not have had the playoffs.
I actually don't know this about the NHL's history.
When did the playoffs start?
I have no idea.
Adam, I know you'll like this.
His rookie season overlaps the signing of the Treaty of Versailles.
It started in the fall of 1919.
Wow.
Isn't that when it was signed?
Yes.
yeah in paris yeah it took like it took like six seven months to get that thing done and
if you look that's where he's from wow no i'm kidding he's from hamilton i i don't i don't
think there were many players in paris at the time dude oh my god it was a very long time ago
that's why when people go ah stuff from back then doesn't count it's disrespectful but maybe
no no maybe a little we have to accept the evolution of the game like baseball has like
soccer has i i'm willing to listen to people who are like none of the original six championships
should be counted the same as winning it in a 32 team league or even like when you just the
expansion you know past six because six is so little yeah that i saw an interesting one well
they did get up to like they did get up to like didn't they get up to 10 or 12 before the depression
I think when it's six, you need to context those cups.
You can't rank them the same as when there's 10 teams or just more teams.
I saw an interesting one that was like, okay, what's worse?
The Leafs not having one since 67, the Canucks never having one,
or the Rangers winning one, but they had something like two cups
in the final 40 years of the original six.
Yeah.
yeah yeah most of their cups are in the 20s like dude you suck how did how didn't you lock into
more than that yeah i knew like just fluke so i knew somebody and he has since passed on but he
played in the nhl for the rangers okay and he's a family friend and i'm not gonna say who but he
he's like he's like i was just big and they put me in uh uh like this is back when you would pull
your skate out of the bag and the boot would fall over the side like yeah you were leather skates
right how did everyone just break their legs well because they didn't shoot as hard and they
didn't hit as hard and they didn't skate as fast and all the other things yeah the shitty slushy
ice like well they didn't have shitty slushy ice it was like minus 40 back then this is pre-climate
change oh right yeah and they're not going 35 kilometers an hour yeah you know no that is true
yeah like if you watch a game from the 50s you're like wow this is a way different game it's but
But anyway, he said, like, the Rangers were, like, night in, night out.
Terrible.
Like, they were just – it's so funny to think of them
because now they're one of the vaunted – you know, the original six,
and they won a cup in 94, and they've had some really close calls
and almost won it a couple times since then.
And Gretzky and Messier played there, and, you know, Brian Leach
and Mike Richter and all these great players.
But for the longest time, and even through the 70s, they were a joke.
like phil esposito when he found out he was going to new york from boston he was really upset about
it and and uh it's it's sort of sort of funny to see how that has all changed since they kind of
got their crap together in the last 25 30 years right but for 50 or 60 years before that it was
like ah the rangers and the blackhawks were a little like that too there were four teams there
were four original six with 14 who yeah who were the teams yeah there's six of us but who's of the
four of us who's gonna win boston montreal toronto boston won no cups during the original six era
okay tell you what leave is it boston or three teams then boston won no cups uh where did i
just have it the cups from the original no way that's a crazy stat too uh sorry i lost it oh
here we go um boston and new york won so montreal won 10 of the 25 stanley cups awarded during the
original six era toronto won nine detroit won five chicago won one and boston and new york
won no cups wow you that's insane you stink i'm like how don't you luck into it luck went in one
it's like the rough riders in the cfl man like they've won the saskatchewan one one that matters
got it sorry ottawa but there's this line as well it says it was not a coincidence coincidence that
two of the dominant teams were based in Canada
and the third was based in an American city that borders
Canada. The league had a rule that
gave each team exclusive rights to
negotiate contracts with promising local
players within 50 miles
of its home ice. That's so shit.
Yeah. So apparently the NHL
has always been stupid. Yeah.
Like they had no draft.
Right? And if you were on the sponsorship
squad, by the way, you were there forever.
You had no rights to leave.
You had no rights to sign anywhere else.
you had you get Alan Walsh talking about this like if you were on that that squad like if you
would sign that contract even if you hadn't you couldn't play anywhere else uh I'm I'm trying to
look it up but the NHL's mobile site is just what are you trying to look at there was some
thing I looked up it was like the year of Gordie Howe's first uh MVP or something like that there
were 10 men out of 200 or something like that above the height of six feet tall four of them
were in the hockey hall of fame yeah it's size mattered for sure there are four six foot men
on last year's golden knights cup team oh yes oh yeah you know oh yeah uh there's a higher
percentage of six foot men in this room percentage yes percentage um the toronto maple east registered
a season-high 50 hits last night
against the Flyers. Benoit was 7,
Greger was 7, Nyes with 6,
McCabe and McMahon with 5,
Giordano 4, and the rest
went to assorted. Now, the other thing I want to bring up
here, and this is back to Austin Matthews for a second here.
It's kind of chippy. Austin Matthews
has the
most goals in the NHL since
16-17.
He has 344.
Alexander Ovechkin and
Leon Dreisaitl are next.
How many goals do they have
since 1617 302 311 311 holy shit really 311 I pulled that out of my ass no way Pasternak has
309 McDavid 308 so that's a 33 goal differential between Austin Matthews and and the next closest
person he's not ahead he's exploding past people yeah he's on a better goal scoring pace than
Ovechkin is and Ovechkin is gonna set the all-time record but he's on the thing is the thing is
keeping it through your
age. Doing it. Having the longevity
to do it. Do you have the health? Yeah.
And then here's the other thing. Nick Alburga
tweeted this. In his last 30 games,
Matthews has 31 goals.
In his last 24,
McMahon has 5. Cool.
In his last 31, Domi has 5.
In his last 27, Kemp has 3.
Nyes has 3 in 29.
Holmberg, 2 in 19.
Greger with 2 in 30. And Bertuzzi
with 1 goal in the last 30 games.
Attaboy, Nick. Everyone
one was positive positive positive positive nick he's right attaboy nick he's right i know he's
right oh let me tell you i was about to be very unkind to william nylander last night
why is that uh i well i don't have the stat in front of me but he has twice as many i think it's
at least twice as many games without a point since signing his contract than before he signed his
contract and he's played two or three times as many games he hasn't even if you're if you don't
call this play bad i don't know if he's been bad enough that you could call it bad but he was a
fucking animal he was a force he was one of the best i had no reservation about calling him one
of the best players in the league because that's how he played he showed up to sweden took over
that shit walked it off went home continued to get better and he's had some nights off
and then last night he goes tell you what steven why don't you tuck that in your back pocket for
a little bit and he scored the ot winner and he wouldn't have had to if the leafs had not
messed it up in the third now let's start this game off by saying that flyers go up one nothing
leafs don't have the best first period okay fine second period no the flyers won nothing goal is
something to you want to talk about what the hell are you doing toronto i mean let's all blow our
assignment all at once yeah no steve your breakdown the lfr was great we're just like
look at these gentlemen why is everybody going in the wrong place dude uh play the top unit for
the full two minutes or the fourth line uh whatever you do um like please send a message
to all those people yeah you stink and cannot be on our power after everybody made the wrong
decision and and the puck's in the corner and the flyers are fishing out just ended in the front
and then marcus giordano decides hey i know everybody's in the wrong place i'm gonna also
get to the wrong place i'm like why are there three of you why are the three of you why is
there four of you why do you need to be the fourth man in in the wrong position it was i didn't
understand his decision making there it's a panic move by a rookie from the oldest player in the
league yes like i'm like oh okay maybe he's filling in for nope robertson's right there what
the fuck what was happening there and just a simple mistake like that hey just stay in your
assignment you know maybe it doesn't lead to a goal yeah it's the leafs are full of these little
mistakes and it's very annoying it's very annoying but they also have the best player since babe died
yeah to then give them a 3-1 lead and and all in one period as well and what bothered me about the
hat trick was not the hat trick or the way he got it that was fucking incredible it was the third
period where everybody's like okay let's just get the puck to Austin and not take obvious shots I'm
looking at William Nylander I'm looking at Mitch Marner on a couple Mitch Marner is known for that
anyway not shooting when he has a good shot and and and over passes dude what the hell was that
the first 10 minutes the Leafs were rolling and they kept giving like they'd get into the zone
they'd give their own scoring chances away because it's like oh we gotta find austin just
fucking shoot the puck mitch's credit he made a great pass on austin's first goal and the third
goal yeah yeah but he had he had a good second there was i agree but and then tell me that they
were not that they were focused and there was a little bit of yeah but the i i blame that third
period collapse which is like it's unforgivable because it's two easy mistakes you don't make
you know and they they lead directly to power plays offensive zone penalty they couldn't stop
Gregor like oh yeah
he should have taken us both there's no argument
no there's no argument you can't punch a guy in the face
no like they were
I thought it was very funny that after last episode
they were jousting
back and forth which is exactly what they were doing
and the ref is looking
and going hey hey
you two knock it off and maybe
considering taking the both and then Gregor
escalated it by punching him in the face
yeah dude that's rough every time
and you're not a player on the team that should be taking
exactly no Gregor
plays too far low in the lineup
to be making mistakes like that. You should be benched.
Dude, I...
How many times do I gotta say it?
The next player scratched
should not be Bobby McMahon. No, Bobby McMahon
has a place on this roster. He had a couple
good chances last night. He's friggin' better.
He's a good player!
Yeah, it's crazy. And then
Bertuzzi, like, watch your stick.
Like, keep your stick in a good place.
Why are you tripping, guys, behind your own net?
What the hell is that? I don't know
what you do there beyond a seance.
like he's you know what man i don't know what you do i don't think that you need to sit bertuzzi
but i think you may anybody who's saying play him lower in the lineup and maybe try to play
him against lower competition and try to get that going like you got to do something you cannot leave
him stable to tavaris and nylander and other and there are guys who deserve a chance up there
i i think i didn't i didn't mind holmberg yeah he didn't play there last night right uh well
they sort of split it there was a very interesting moment though where keith and nylander were having
a heated discussion and i did my best to lip read i couldn't lip read sheldon at all but
nylander goes twice twice and i'm like what what's he talking about i was i was trying to figure that
out did you figure it out no was he upset with a teammate was he upset with you know was someone
hooking them and there there wasn't a penalty called he's frustrated like the the one thing
i'll i'll say about his uh not necessarily slump but he's definitely playing below what he was
in the fall is the fire's been there there's an anger and a passion in william kneelander that
i don't think we've ever seen at this level in his career so that's encouraging at very least but
i mean when are we gonna find line mates for these elite players like even matthew nize
on one hand he's been matthew's left winger for the majority of the season in a season where
matthew says 45 goals he must be doing some of the right things he's got nine goals did you see
the uh sheldon keith clip where he's like nizey go through that guy yeah and that's a rookie yeah
And part of me, sometimes I watch him play and I'm like, he is a rookie.
It's unreasonable to expect him to be great at this role.
And then you have Bertuzzi who's somehow doing worse.
I don't know what the underlying number comparable is between the two.
All I know is Nize has three more goals than Bertuzzi does.
And if you look at the Bertuzzi numbers, and this is what people will tweet at us,
um the advanced numbers are good at a certain point and i think even people who are dyed in
the wool advanced stats people will tell you uh the number the actual result i enjoy the deserve
to score a meter has to yield a goal at some point and this is where this is where i wonder
like put bertuzzi with domi he was with domi last night yeah and i like that it was minutes with
domey and robertson last night and i like that robertson had some good chances yeah i i love
nick robertson's game i i still think it's coming along i hope they don't trade him but i do feel
like there's got to be something you need some you need to be event you need to be able to finish
eventually like you can yes i get that he's getting scoring chances and the highlight packs
of domey almost scoring are amazing or domey bertuzzi almost scoring are amazing oh no you
were right eventually you were right you need to put the puck in the back of the net and it's just
you need a finish and it's great if you're on a long-term deal it's like well eventually it'll
come back this guy's gonna be gone he's got three months he didn't want to be i don't think his
first choice was the leafs and that's okay he doesn't have to be he doesn't have to love the
idea of coming to toronto there's media scrutiny there's all this stuff there's people like us
talking about him but like at the end of the day you did sign for five and a half million we expect
25 goals here and you have six and the possibility of moving him and getting some assets and like
flipping him for something kind of equivalent isn't really possible because of the contract
and the no trade right imagine it's october 12th it's opening night and i tell steve and jesse on
this show i come on this show with one of my hottest takes ever and i go guess who will be
worth a first round pick at the deadline adam henry or tyler bertuzzi who make about the same
money it's within a quarter million of each other and you guys would say well obviously bertuzzi
You nerd.
And if I say Henrique, you guys laugh me out of the room.
And guess where we're at.
Henrique's were the first.
Leafs probably couldn't shed Bertuzzi's contract,
even if they wanted to, to make room to make another deal.
There's not really a team in the league that would take on Bertuzzi.
And he's been good.
I like his game.
So I'm looking at it right now.
Noah Greger has a shooting percentage of 5.6, which is bad.
Bertuzzi has a shooting percentage of 6.2, which is bad.
Yeah, that's going to change.
Domi has 6.7.
Pontus Holmberg even has 6.9, which is nice, but bad.
Then it's like defensemen.
Dude, Tavares even 8.
David Kampf has a higher shooting percentage than John Tavares at 8.2.
Bobby McMahon is the first double-digit guy,
the lowest double-digit guy at 11.6.
You know what I think part of this team's problem is?
shoot a lot of these guys pass up opportunities and i think like there have been a few shifts
over the last month um where it's like a pass contest because everyone's confidence is shot
because no one's scoring and everyone wants to help get the other guy out of the slump
domey passes to bertuzzi he passes to this guy someone be selfish dude shoot the puck
what did Bobby McMahon do
when he got his hat trick
he drove to the net for the
first goal after being allowed to go there by the
St. Louis Blues who sucked that night
and he
yeeted the puck off
of like one foot at the net
the second goal like the balls
to even take that shot after
missing the net by a mile by the way
the play continued in the
zone and he's like you know what I'm going to take another shot
after missing the net by a mile
an even worse angle shot and it friggin goes in and then obviously the empty netter dude shoot
the puck yep i wish these guys would be a little more selfish uh well well i don't know what you
do to because if here's the thing if the depth scoring is here we're not worried about half the
things we're talking about nope if there is any depth scoring at all not from all of them let's
say from half of them let's say because i listen i've liked max domey's game i think he was he and
simon benoit are the best signings of the true living era so far uh uh based on based on their
contract values and stuff i don't know why you don't like his game i've never understood that
i think he had speed i think he had playmaking i think they've paired him with the wrong people
the entire year i agree with that um he gets hemmed in a lot um he's a three million dollar
center well that's part of it that's a three million dollar center it's just it's a completely
completely different approach from like okay they went out and they got ryan o'reilly last year yes
right and i know they didn't have them for the full season blah blah blah but they don't play
remotely the same those two you know what i mean so i know there's a new gm in there but
they went from that to this and it's just such a sharp contrast and again we don't talk about it
nearly as much um if they're scoring like Domi's a playmaker we know that and he's put up a
surprising amount of points considering he's played the majority of the season in the bottom
six and no one in the bottom six is scoring you gotta put him with finishers yeah and
I don't know maybe you put Bertuzzi with him and just see what breaks first well Bertuzzi
playmaking ability or Bertuzzi Domi Robertson somebody's gonna score at some point
right i don't hate robertson with that shot bertuzzi with his zamboniness he just kind of
slides all over the place nothing against robertson but i would really like to see bertuzzi domi
yarn croak when yarn croaks back um they do miss him i think yeah i think definitely yarn croak has
that spot on the lineup yeah and then well if dude if this keeps up and nize doesn't score
and bertuzzi doesn't score don't be surprised if yarn croak ends up in the top six on the left
yeah that too which they've done and it wasn't bad i'm willing to give nice leeway like we
mentioned it a little bit you know he's a rookie he's still getting we we forget that i know very
often i want to dude they need to start going in they need to start going so like last night
it was i don't think it was a good game from the least i think it was a good one period
by one guy oh yeah he saved the entire game and then it was a great goal by willie but
overall i was there's so many disappointing moments that happened last night i'm just
like good teams find ways to win when they're not playing well which is very encouraging to
see that they ended up getting the two points they are doing that more often this year they're
not just falling apart yes that's why it's been so so encouraging especially the early half of
the season when they had all these crazy comeback wins is they had bad games but they'd still win
which is excellent but you don't want these habits to persist throughout the rest of the
season because you come playoff time you don't get these opportunities two unsung heroes that
i want to do before we wrap eli samsonoff was having a friggin fantastic game i thought the
team let him down at the end still picks up the win and someone who i've given it to a lot on
this show timothy lilligren he had a great great night last night good night that's good timothy
good good at the good at the absolutely uh so that's a lilia win timothy lilia great what does
it say about the leafs that they played better when john tavarez and mitch marner and morgan
riley weren't in the lineup well i think it shows here's what i want to say about that
those were that bad it shows i think it shows first off that this team doesn't give 100 every
night i think number two totally true it shows that teams are exploiting the leafs weakness
which is they're not fast uh you know you saw what the you guys saw with the nathan mckinnon
now i know they're it's nathan mckinnon and kale mccarr but like we're trying to play in that
range right yes like the whole thing about the having the four superstars plus morgan riley who
i would include as a top five the whole point of that is to be able to compete in that arena and
and the avalanche who are essentially a one-line team swept in and said we're gonna one line you
to death and they did it and they did it by skating mckinnon's uh baseline is demon mode
that's right and then playoffs is satan when the alzabub went he is lucifer morningstar went
to he is terrifying when tavares is not playing up to his standards like the other day when he was
or last week. Remember he did that spinorama
or that half spin
in the offensive zone to set up
a goal. Where he avoided
the defenseman like he avoids paying tax.
That's right. Whoa!
Sent him and Jesse.
Yeah, that's vintage
Tavares. That's when he's at his best.
But he's at the point in his career where
if he is not
at his best, the game does slow down in the playoffs.
I'll give you that. But if he's not at
his best, it's far more noticeable because
of the skating. And I think
teams can exploit that line yes willie's fast yeah you can put someone fast on his wing but
the reality is the center is the center and we call it the center because it's the center of the
line and we so so at least have to figure out something with that and i think the other thing
is and i was i got into it a little bit with somebody on twitter last night and not not in
a bad way were you tweeting through it no no i just like i was i basically it was like i i was
like i i tweeted something the effect of imagine austin matthews on a team that could play defense
okay which is valid i think back and forth well he was upset about it because he's like why can't
it just be a good thing without detractions and i understand what he was saying that's fair but
what i said back was listen this team has been wildly inconsistent what do i mean by that when
i say that we have expectations for this team based on their talent level i know morgan riley's
not in the lineup i get it this team is still better on defense than what they have shown you
what they showed you last night,
their boneheaded plays per 60 is too high.
It's too high.
Too damn high.
Their giveaways in the neutral zone
that lead to offensive opportunities
for the other team is too high.
Are these players capable?
Yes, they're capable.
And this is what I want to impart to Leaf fans.
I don't get upset when they lose a game
that shit, they just got outplayed.
I get upset when they play below
what their talent level is.
when i you you got you know you know when a team even if you're not a fan of the leafs you know
when your team is sort of just i mean st louis blues fans after monday's game or tuesday's game
whatever the hell that happened they were like they were a few of them reached out to me they're
like yeah that wasn't that was that was not the blues i've been watching it's one of the worst
games i've ever in the 17 years of doing lfr seeing a team play against the league they were
terrible i'm not kidding they were terrible they just were fucking off no effort zero they did not
try they didn't show up they shouldn't have shown up to the game so this idea that the world lives
in an nhl ea sports nhl 24 vacuum that the players give a hundred thousand percent every night and
they play to their 89 out of 100 uh level is bullshit they're human beings none of us work
like that no so i think with what what happens with the leafs though is it happens more than it
ought to and that's where i get frustrated and i and i know that these guys don't tell me you can
get to the nhl and not make basic plays and these guys sometimes are not making basic plays it comes
down to focus yeah how does it feel knowing that you are a guy who spends your night arguing with
people on twitter it was two tweets jesse that's all and by the way this guy's a nice person and
he's tweeted us for years so i i like this person very much that i was tweeting with it wasn't like
a it wasn't like a me me me like we used to do in our early 20s oh yeah we used to we used to just
get into rip-roaring fights on Twitter for
no reason. Like, what are we doing? This person
is a good person. It's just a difference of opinion.
Oh, you've matured. Well, no.
No, I don't
think I've matured. Anybody who's listening to this show, the
maturity level is the same.
The stupid brain farts per 60 for me have gone
down, which is don't fight with people on Twitter.
What are you doing?
Now, Jesse, I sent you a video.
Sure. And I want
you to play this because
there was a real highlight of the night
last night that I think that you will love.
I think everybody loves.
And Steve, stop looking at the computer.
Stop looking at the computer.
Just let it come up on the screen.
Just let it happen.
Let it happen.
Let it happen to you.
Let it wash over you.
Steve's always trying to be like, I'm going to put my glasses on and look over Jesse's shoulder at the computer.
I was going to look at the screen.
No, it is going on the screen.
I'm being a good boy.
There was somebody in the building last night that, for those of us of a certain era, is near and dear to our hearts.
Yes.
And this person
Was a Toronto Maple Leaf
And was so excited to see people
Wearing his jersey
And he was the alumni that was back
That gives the jersey to the veteran
Loops Troops, but it wasn't Loop
Weirdly enough, Joffrey Lupel has not appeared
At Scotiabank Arena ever since
Wonder what happened
But this guy from the Joffrey Lupel era did
Oh, there's music to it
Sorry
But it's Grubowski
to the guy wearing the
who has the happiest face okay
that fan is so harry potter
that hot dog looks delicious also that
jersey is the one i was talking about
yes that is what you were talking about the other day
but show grabbo's face
show it he's filming he's filming oh
yeah he's just so happy
i love his face he also has
really funny tiktoks he is a
very gifted tiktoker
he's got a backyard rink that's
fucking spectacular guy rules
because he lives in uh jeff merrick land i can never forgive dave for that i can never forgive
dave notice for that's the dumbest buyout in leafs history it's pretty freaking i remember at his at
grabbo's wedding i'm pretty sure oh my god that era this is why this is why i have a hard time
with um with anybody who is associated with that leafs team when they move on it's hard for me as
a leaf fan to be like yeah great ad because i know what it was like when they were here and
it was bad there's a reason why when dave pool and signed with the sends a lot of leaf fans were
like good yeah i think pulley's a little bit different and i think he's probably changed i
put a lot of that on nonis and and i think and and tim lie wiki thought dave nonis was a genius
signed into a five-year extension man and it's a it's a bummer because it's honestly of all the
great moves Tim Laiwiki did. It's like the one
that stands out. You go, wow, that really hurt
us. No, he did
great things for the Raptors. Great things
for TFC. Not big fans. Of Laiwiki?
I don't know. They're out of their
minds. They're out of their
minds. They're out of their minds.
If it was for Laiwiki, they would never win a championship. Go get
one of those hot dogs when you go down there tonight.
Those look fantastic.
If I can afford it, I will.
Yeah, they're probably like $22.
That looks like it's at least $25. I'll spot you
$30. How much
Adam, how much did you say a Coke was at Scotiabank?
Remember that while you got Natalie a Coke, it was like $8 or something?
Oh, $8 or $10, yeah.
Yeah, something like that.
Yeah, we told that on the show.
I forgot.
You're asking me to remember something from a year ago.
Jesse's like, there's no way he's going to remember that.
But it was expensive.
It's crazy.
It's crazy down there.
Yeah, I'll probably eat.
Compare and contrast that you've had a Costco dog, right?
Oh, my God, yeah.
Okay, and they're that dollar.
Yeah.
So I would like to know which is better,
the scotiabank arena hot dog for 40 million dollars mortgage your house or the costco hot
dog for a dollar definitely costco i think well just based on the value you feel better about it
but does it taste better i've only had a jay's hot dog before i've never had a hot dog at a
leaf jay's hot dogs are sadly disappointing i went i went to dollar hot dog day best decision
in my life did you okay yeah when you're paying a dollar if it tastes different it's fantastic
if you're paying full price for those hot dogs i'm like i expect more oh man dude five dollar
beers loony dog great it's a great evening i hope they bring it i think they have it this year do
you remember toonie tuesday with the blue jays oh yeah where tickets were two dollars yeah yeah
what yeah they used to be this way back and they stopped doing it maddie because first off it was
all in the 500s and the and the fans would get super drunk and then they would because no one
was watching the jays at that time and and so they would filter down into the lower levels and
sneak into seats yeah and they would be rowdy and there would be fights dude there was a frat
that got kicked out for being too drunk i was a kid and they were sitting behind us and the
lead uh the leafs the jays at the time i've told the story before i had a pitcher named billy kotch
and so they all in their drunken stupor he's a good closer by the way yeah early in the game
we're like we should paint suck my kotch on our chest i bet that went well well so they left the
game to get paint and
came back. You were allowed in and out
back then. I don't know. I don't know
where they found all the paint. You used to be able
to go in and out of the Jays game if you wanted a cigarette.
So they realized
these guys were doing
that and they said, guys, you can't.
We're not asking you to
leave. We're just asking you to not do that.
Then later in the game, they had
gone to another section and they all get
on the Jumbotron and they all go, hey!
And then there's a split second where they all go,
oh, whoa! And they run to
get it in the proper order and the camera
got off.
Dude, it was the best.
That was a toony Tuesday. That's fun.
A Jays ticket now for the 500s
is going to cost you $25.
That's inflation for you, baby. That's the Blue Jays
versus White Sox on Wednesday.
It's not crazy,
but $2 between
$25. I'll be honest, you should never have been paying
$2 for it.
That was a ploy to get people in the building.
The team sucked. It was a terrible team.
They were bad.
They were really bad.
Lyle Overbay?
Lyle Overbay.
Man.
Josh Towers.
Oh, Josh Towers.
Man.
I remember.
I can sit around naming old Jays all day.
Corey Koski for a minute.
I liked him with the Twins.
He was great.
Chris Woodward.
Who was the guy?
Who was the third baseman?
Brett Lowry?
Brett Lowry.
Who almost fought an ump?
Oh, yeah.
That's very recent.
Yeah.
you have three brett did i ever have i ever talked about meeting brett laurie no i met him
outside grace home alleys oh there's a good spot and this dude so a a mutual friend it was it was
the guy who came up with team unit remember team unit yeah and it was laurie colby armstrong i
think mike brown and i want to see jpr and cb or something they had this thing called team unit and
it was like big on twitter and they sold shirts and everything and he introduced me to brett
larry outside of grace o'malley's and this dude manhandled me absolutely manhandled me like he
kept bringing me in for like bro hug and everything really this dude tossed me around like a plastic
shopping bag like i couldn't believe how fucking strong he was yeah and but like not just because
he was strong he was fucking hyped yes he was really excited to be on the street corner outside
of great o'malley's it's great to meet you and i was like holy shit this guy's actively on the
blue jays he didn't it was amazing he didn't he didn't like hit home runs he like he like
fought the ball like he he was like like it's like you know what i mean like it was like a
mobster movie like he's like you know when they try to smash smash their car up and he that's the
baseball he's just anger anger ranked the thing and another graceful mali story one time i was
standing on the street corner and there was a random man walking by in full lederhosen and i'm
like yo that's hilarious yo that's corbinian holzer oh nice who was anaheim ducks great
Corbinian Holzer.
Fuck you.
Toronto Maple Leafs great.
How dare you?
Tomorrow's the Corbinian Holzer Bowl.
The Leafs and the Ducks.
Oh, that's right.
Preds, we don't acknowledge Preds Holzer.
No, not at all.
Leafs homestand ever going to end?
They're just going to stay at home forever?
You know what?
I like it because they're actually winning this time.
No, Jesse, be careful what you wish for.
Next week, they have a 1 o'clock game
and back-to-back 10 o'clock games.
No, I'm excited.
Thanks a lot.
We get mullet and T-Mobile.
That's a good look back-to-back.
I'm excited for mullet.
Dude, what?
What?
We get mullet and T-Mobile?
Yeah.
We get Arizona, which is a fun atmosphere.
Oh, yeah.
We get a puddle of barf and a Ferrari.
What are you talking about?
Mullet is an experience, man.
It is an experience.
I'm excited to see that on TV
and then playing the coyotes for the first time season hey question does mullet arena show up as
mullet arena in the video game surely uh i didn't i haven't checked 24 actually 23 no um they had it
as like a default arena kind of it was kind of like they can't do that um i'm pretty sure it's
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um yarmo kekalainen was finally mercifully let go yesterday um it's interesting because i think the
thing that did him in is everybody it's not the overall play of the team and and and that sort
of thing or where they're going as a franchise i think his job was done once babcock got fired
and it was just a matter of time before the blue jackets found out yet again that they put
extraordinarily flawed team on the ice now what's interesting about the firing and steve did a video
about this on the sdpn channel is that the architect of yarmo's time in columbus the guy
who kept him there this long is now the interim gm now we know that the columbus blue jackets
ownership are in in a vacuum it's a perfect situation super rich own the team don't get
involved too much in the hockey ops side but with john davidson there how many playoff games have
they played in the last 12 13 14 years however long he's been there it's not just like playoff
games played it's series one and they've won one and a half yeah the leafs one is a half yeah and
it's a play-in and i know like i was getting chirped by blue jackets fans like oh leaf fan
criticize do not hold yourself to the standard of the toronto maybe yeah you hold yourself to
like boston or vegas or something like that please tampa as a leaf fan please aim higher yeah for the
love of god have some pride i know they've been bad i've documented actually quite extensively
how bad they've been the blue jackets they had been every bit as bad if not worse they had the
crazy win against the leafs that no one was expecting and then they had the crazy comeback
against the lightning that no one was expecting but that is it i uh i think some people expected
the Leaf one but okay the uh the the lightning one was very unexpected there was one thing in
the video that I was a little unfair about I talked about them finishing I think it was third
in their division one year which is true but they were fourth in the league but they still
they didn't do shit they didn't do anything ever that was the John Tortorella clip of when they
lost in the first round to the penguins oh that's 2017 with when they finished fourth in the league
yeah they uh they were down three oh the penguins they win one game they lose four one the first
round oh do we give teams a pass for playing a tough opponent now oh good news lee fans like
don't worry all the losses to boston and tampa the columbus one is the only one that counts oh
and the habs oh but only those two so really they've only lost in the first round twice
no i think i think what it is is that good news uh mike stevens made a really good point on on
twitter last night he said listen we can shut up we can laugh about the yarmo kekka line and stuff
and and i don't think anyone's like laughing no uh but he said whoever gets in there say what you
want about the current on ice product they have a ton of great prospects and a ton of great draft
picks and a good future ahead i do think though the issue is the person who is remaining is the
person that kept yarmo there as long as he did and i wonder in columbus how much change is really
going to happen when if you go back and you listen to the mike babcock episode where he got fired i
went through the press conference where they interviewed i'm sorry introduced mike babcock
and they talked about how they did their due diligence and how did they do their due diligence
in hiring mike babcock they talked to all of mike babcock's friends one of them specifically was
ken holland and when they said due diligence it's like no actually you didn't you ignored
your responsibility in business and hockey is a business to find the best candidate available
you wanted mike you went to a bunch of guys who said mike's a great guy because you knew that
they would you knew ken hitchcock was going to give you the heads up because they'd work together
and a couple other guys they're not even worth mentioning because i can't even remember them
due diligence would have been calling frank corrado yeah yeah do exactly call johan franz
and ask him how he feels.
And I think, or Valtteri Filippola,
who refused to come to the Leafs under Mike Babcock
in a trade at the 16-17 trade deadline.
There are things that I'm concerned about
for the Blue Jackets.
They've got great prospects.
We've talked about it.
They do have great talent on that roster,
and they've got an opportunity to move players around
and grab some great assets.
Apparently, they were in on Elias Lindholm,
and it came really close.
Why?
I don't know.
And this is the problem.
This is the problem.
The Lindholm thing is the thing that freaks me out.
Well, I think it freaked them out.
What's that?
I think it freaked them out.
What, Columbus?
Yeah.
Why?
Well, why would you fire him now?
I think they were happy to let him do the rest of the season,
let him go into the trade deadline,
and at some point he's like,
here's what I got going on for the trade deadline,
and I think those above him were like,
what are you talking about?
that's the only fathomable reason i can think of that for the timing i like that logic it yeah they
because it does it the timing doesn't make sense at all yeah it doesn't make oh yeah we're gonna
let him go let him go let him go hey what do you got on the run oh that's all stupid they didn't
trust this person to go through march 8th so my question is the guy that kept him there all these
years and advocated for him do you trust him no no not even a little but there's no one above him
that's making a decision because the family likes john davidson well um i heard a rumor
what did you hear i got a little tip um now this is a a ways away i don't think they're doing this
now um i think they would obviously wait until at very minimum the i mean just before the draft
i think this is something that probably won't happen until at least may um but uh the name
i heard bandied about for the vacant uh columbus gm job is mark hunter of the london knights
well how does that make any sense um he was the agm with the leafs we know that the columbus blue
jackets are deeply deeply uh tied into the london knights organization um rick nash uh is i mean
their most treasured son um and he was a london knight for a very long time i believe he's part
of the organization now. And Basil McRae, who is the assistant GM of the Blue Jackets, I believe
is also one of the co-owners of the London Knights. He's very high up in the London Knights and he was
part of that organization for a long time. So when I heard that rumor, it made a little too
much sense to me. They didn't say it was a done deal, but I've gotten good information from them
before so let's see interesting interesting well and and mark hunter who famously resigned
from the lease when he didn't get the general manager's job um and nobody has come after him
for it since dude he's not even been in rumors that's interesting that um let's say he does
become uh the gm of the blue jackets that first game against the leafs is going to be a huge money
on the board game he was not happy about how that went down he wanted that job i wonder how that did
go down because it seems like he was unhappy lou was unhappy and lou said in his opening press
conference in toronto like if kyle doesn't take it over for me in the next or you know after this
three-year deal is up then something's wrong and then all of a sudden he's like nah i don't like
that uh actually um i think i'm gonna stay that's weird huh i'm gonna stay i'm gonna actually you
know what i've decided i'm gonna i'm gonna go to new york take a team that on paper should be in
last and uh make the playoffs one of the things that greg washinsky was saying and we'll talk
about this a little bit later because i don't want to get into it right now uh when he when he
was on our all-star panels at all-star uh he was saying that yeah the trade deadline's not looking
like great names blah blah blah i wonder if they are veering off of what yarmo's plan was which is
add more veteran talent please stop playing rookies oh my god we've got great rookies let's
never play them um uh which has been the Columbus Blue Jackets year the entire year let's how do we
how do we make it harder for Juracek and Ken Johnson to establish themselves in the NHL
could we make it harder um I wonder if that opens up some names that we weren't really expecting
you know is a Provorov available is uh you know is Johnny Gaudreau either now or this summer
like does he fit into whatever the next plan is because it was very clear that they wanted to have
good rookies and strong veterans right i mean i think it's a reasonable assumption that johnny
would probably welcome a move somewhere yeah yeah or anyone on that freaking team dude i'm curious
i'm really curious about it i i think it'll be a very interesting time um and i guess we'll see
but I hope it opens up more on the trade deadline.
Kekulainen either got gassed for the moves he was going to make
or wasn't going to make.
Could be both.
I guess we're about to find out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay.
So, Jesse, just sent over the jersey that was revealed yesterday.
Okay.
And this is Tampa Bay's third jersey.
Can I put on my glasses?
Yeah, you can.
Is that okay?
Yeah.
Okay.
So, you've seen these?
Yes.
Okay.
Okay, now, mixed reaction.
Some loved, some hated.
But Tampa is famous for ripping off jerseys from other teams,
specifically the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Their main jerseys look like Leaf jerseys.
No one can deny that.
And the Leafs allowed them to use that shade of blue,
which I'll never understand.
They appear to have ripped off every police department.
So here's the jersey.
And then, Jesse, I sent another one through.
and this jersey reminds me
while we're on the subject of Columbus
of Columbus's third
jersey. Oh, I thought you were going to say
remember the Leaf jersey they used to
sell in Walmart that was black
like I'm not saying it as an insult
do you remember that? No. It was like a knockoff
Leaf jersey but it was sold officially at Walmart
and everyone had it. I think that's
part of the reason why we like the Drew
House jerseys
I think Drew House jerseys just look
nice. Yeah, they're
this is a bit of a stretch adam is it that is the same jersey no it's the same so that logo
is the same okay so it doesn't have the shoulder whites it doesn't have the bottom stripes logo
baby uh the stripes on the shoulders are different as well the logo is the circle it's the same
i think well and by the way the uh the the lightning the lightning thing is ugly so is
the blue jackets one i don't think either are great yeah i like i like this jersey i think it's
just boring also i'm done with the the special jerseys can we get back to just team has one
jersey and then an alternate i just like the off-white you like the off-white yeah i uh you
know what i don't understand like again it's february what day is yesterday 15th
mm-hmm your debut debuting a jersey today hmm like what is up with that that's an interesting
one was there a special reason for that you didn't feel like getting on this earlier like is this
you're trying to sell some jerseys ahead of the playoffs like you know when you want to debut a
jersey is after christmas famously is you want to like that's weird right well i wonder if uh i
wonder if they'd already had the photo shoot done with stamkos in it and they're like hey we better
get this out because he might not be here next year uh i'm kidding those are totally photoshopped
i don't hate the jersey um it's it but it's the same conversation we've oh my god whoa oh my god
you're not wrong you know what i've decided it's a handsome jersey but it's a rip-off jesse bring
it up how dare you i can't believe this i can't believe this you know what it is a rip-off jersey
Jesse's about to put it up.
Oh.
Oh.
There you go.
Oh.
All right.
They ripped off the STPN jersey.
They ripped off the Dangle Navy jersey.
You sons of my guns.
You know what?
Garbage.
We won't take you to court if you trade Stamkos to Toronto for a seventh.
That's it.
He shoots right.
We'll make him play deep.
Oh, man.
It'd be great.
Imagine you have Matthews on one line, Stamkos on the next.
Steve you look good in this picture
Thanks bro
Feels like the implication is I don't look good anymore
That is not the implication
How would that be the implication
That's the quintessential
Twitter reaction
Oh so you hate how I look now
I'm gonna
Brent Laurie you across the friggin
How dare you
I don't mind these lightning jerseys
It's
Boo lightning
It's the conversation that we always have when a team comes up with an alternate.
Is it a good jersey or do you just like the color black?
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
I think it was the Carolina one.
Is this a good jersey or is red just nice?
It's fine.
Didn't they?
It's fine.
They just came out with another one, didn't they not?
The pirate one?
Yeah.
What happened to that?
I love that one.
Here, let me try and find it.
Okay.
Here's what I don't love about that.
They're not pirates.
that's not what the lightning are no there's some like history with that it's honoring something is
it also it was also play there it was a warm-up jersey um gasparilla adam what is that i am a
celebrates annual local festival and oh that's sick i like that well that's sick why don't they
go with that that's totally different yeah this logo like this pirate logo that's awesome that
should be your old jersey fuck you talking about lightning oh look at how badass that is that is
sick oh hell yeah that was alex calorn was last year oh damn i thought this was new couldn't they
i guess they brought it back this year but i this article if you last year i know that's like
yeah like the practice but couldn't you if you put a stripe on that at the bottom it that's a
perfect jersey yeah just make it the old jersey this is awesome this is what i'm saying all these
extra jerseys it makes you move off of what might be a great idea very quickly because oh we got to
come up with another one now holy shit like that is you got it you already did it stop perfecting
it it's perfect as a leaf fan i would like the lightning to start wearing black as their primary
please you hate that so much dude they're identical it's bullshit they're identical
on hockey db they look like they play for the same team canucks too low-key actually yeah when
When they have the shoulder shot, the head shot.
It's the same.
You're not wrong.
You know, guys, this is the best logo.
Go with this.
I may not know much about anything, but I do know that in hockey,
when your team can't score, losing a goal scorer can be detrimental.
Crazy, crazy hot take from your boy Adam Wild.
Jake Gensel will be injured for the next four weeks,
making the trade deadline potentially less interesting.
But also, I mean, if anybody's going to score in the power play,
dude it makes the penguins uh a far more clear seller but it takes away their greatest chip
it's worst case scenario for them it'd be better if like crosby or malkin was out like yeah because
they're not getting traded dude it's terrible it's really terrible yeah uh now it can he still
be traded can you trade somebody who's on ir yeah yeah but like do you want that it definitely
brings the value down because it's like how bad is he injured right i still think there's a
possibility he gets traded yeah but it'll take him into like mid-march and then you have i don't know
a dozen games to get a player recovering from injury uh acclimated to your lineup right but
there's still a possibility you know you sell on them just so you don't lose them for nothing if
you're not going to resign against totally if you're dubious maybe just move them for anything
so that he doesn't just walk,
especially if they're going to miss the playoffs,
which is looking more and more likely.
Even though they picked up that win last night.
History typically indicates the future,
so Dubas will lose him for nothing.
Never happened in Toronto.
Stop it.
Own rental.
Own rental.
We think we have a great team here.
Now, Jesse and Steve and I were having a quick conversation beforehand
because there are two schools of thoughts, right?
There's the Greg Wyshynski, this deadline's boring,
and there aren't a lot of great names.
And then there are people that we've heard from
that have compared it to a pending volcano.
Okay?
And they'll remain nameless for now.
Spicy.
Like, as in, everybody's holding so tight.
We had a little bit of a leakage with Lindholm to Vancouver.
But that was it.
Yeah.
Really?
Yeah.
You know, we know that New Jersey wants a goaltender.
We got Monaghan, too.
Oh, yeah, Monaghan.
Yeah, that's right.
and fedorov way earlier yeah i wouldn't count that as like deadline fodder though right because
it was like a november move right yeah but i i look at i look at the markstrom like markstrom
to new jersey needs to happen everybody wants it to happen murray edwards is like no i will not
retain calgary down the barrel of the fucking camera don't play with me calgary they're gonna
they're gonna don't play with me craig you better be traded everyone craig i'm sick of the noise
craig i work nights craig you're keeping me up knock that shit off hannifin has always been in
there who else has always been in there in these trade rumors tanaf has always been in these trade
rumors now you're throwing markstrom and rasmus anderson in there you better be the star of the
show on march 8th craig march 8th march 8th don't play with me craig sick of this shit you're good
Listen, Marth 8th.
Marth 8th.
Marth 8th!
We're not expecting.
That should be the title of the episode.
Marth 8th.
Marth 8th.
We're not expecting this to be a great trade deadline.
Although I think sneakily it could be.
But Jesse, you were going through some of the names that could have been dealt at last trade deadline.
And comparing and contrasting.
Yeah.
And I think, okay, so what do we got?
What do we got right now?
We got like Sean Walker.
Scott Lawton.
Okay, we got Hannah Finn.
Great player.
not necessarily like a marketable star yet just go to cap still a great player just go to cap
friendly the flames roster they're on the trade board all of them so heading into like because
some of some of these players moved well before yeah but trade trade deadline but heading into
december 1st 2022 some of the names we were throwing out there included horvat eric carlson
Jacob Chikrin, who eventually went to Ottawa.
Eric Croson was not moved.
Horvat was moved ahead of the deadline.
We had John Klingberg, who moved at the deadline.
Sean Monaghan.
That was a thing.
Gavrikov, Tyler Myers, Patrick Kane, Timo Mayer, Kasperi Kapanen.
That's a list of 10 names.
And that was the December list.
Yeah, that was the December list.
That's the way too early list, right?
So if we compare that to this year's December list, I think I like last year's a lot better.
now my question guys is can some of that open up and i'm going to specifically ask you
about one team okay now we know calgary is probably a little bit on the heavily trade
you expect them to make some trades now and at the at the draft you expect that philadelphia
might be a player even though they're winning and it's like so philly's in a weird spot but
but i still think that danny briere is like no we're doing this this is what we're doing yeah
But then Philly, it's like, oh, Sean Walker.
Right.
Sean Walker and Scott Lawton.
That's not a five-star name.
Right.
You've got Adam Henrique, as I told you, now worth a first-round pick.
Look at that.
Sean Monahan was, too.
This is crazy.
Tarasenko on the set.
Yep.
Yep.
There's a guy.
Here's a team that I'm interested in, the most interested in.
And this is because this team, last night, put up one shot in the first period,
and that is the Nashville Predators.
They were outshot 18-1 in the first period against the Dallas Stars.
And I think it's finally time.
Can we please, Barry Trotz, finally admit it's time to retool?
I'm not saying rebuild, retool.
And people gave me shit when I said Ryan O'Reilly signed there because it's not like he signed there hoping he was going to win the cup.
And then he gave a bunch of interviews and he was like, he's like, well, why can't we contend?
You can't contend because you're not good enough.
That's why.
Damn.
and and i think it might be time there are good pieces there o'reilly chen probably part of the
future that's great i think it's time to move on from some pieces nine two that smells familiar
one thing that works in nashville's favor this year and not selling is that there's a free
playoff spot in the western conference yes that's that nobody wants because there are only seven
decent teams and a couple of those teams in the seven aren't even that good so sell to one of
the suckers that think they should be
in that spot. Right, so you got
that extra spot in the
West that is going to go to the Blues,
the Preds, the Kraken, the Wild, and like
the Flames might still think they're in it, but they're not
in it. So like, if you want
to be in this thing and compete,
you can, if you're
Barry Jotz. Now, I cannot believe
that team I watched the other night is in a playoff spot.
I cannot fucking believe it. Now, the
Predators, by the way, are
four points behind the Blues.
Dude, they're 8-2 in their last
They're one of the hottest teams in the NHL.
The Blues are, yeah.
That's impossible.
The Preds are 3-6-1.
Yeah, no, the Preds suck.
The Blues, they did have the All-Star break in between that.
Yeah.
But they are pretty hot.
When did the Wild win four straight?
What the fuck?
Sorry.
Yeah, but the Wild could still sell.
I'm looking at some of the teams near the bottom who would be selling-ish.
And it's like, what do you have to sell?
Coyotes, it looked like they could actually make the playoffs earlier this year.
They've kind of fallen off, especially the last 10.
It's been terrible.
The Ducks really don't have a lot outside of Henrique
or potentially Trevor Zegres,
which his name has been getting out there.
To Montreal?
Yeah, Marc-Antoine and Arpen were talking about that yesterday.
San Jose doesn't have a lot to sell.
Hurdle's now injured too,
so if you were going to try to move him,
you can't until he's healthy, probably.
Blackhawks have nobody.
Like, nobody's going to buy it from the Blackhawks.
Look at the friggin' goal differential.
The bottom four teams in the Western Conference
would all be the last team in the East.
oh yeah no i mean like literally by points ducks minus 44 sharks minus 90 blackhawks minus 79
sorry last three teams and what's complicating this trade deadline are people like the columbus
blue jackets on our senators who are the last two teams in the eastern conference going out and
saying we would like to buy please the senator's going no we're not going to sell we're going to
go after chris taniff the blue jackets up until yesterday going no we're not going to sell we're
going after lindholm the savers don't want to sell the canadians don't have a lot to sell unless
it's jake allen that's not a lot full-time the caps what can they sell uh not tickets to uh
building no i know you're trying to make it but what do they have uh not a lot penguins are
probably not going to sell right because they're they're hanging on with both hands but you're
missing something that's very important to us and the broadcast overlords of this country what is it
even if it's a quiet trade deadline by and large it's going to be loud in canada
canucks are buying from who i don't know the jets are buying from who maybe from the flames who are
selling i think there's a lot of teams that are diluting themselves into thinking that like the
while they're finally on the block they're finally going you know what maybe we should sell they've
got they've got pieces they could sell well but like there's a lot of bad teams and ottawa i know
they had their moment against toronto but they went out and played columbus next and did great
but like let's be honest that's not a great team they got murdered by the ducks yesterday and i'm
like i i hate my team i know i know how do you how do you have five one to the ducks what the
fuck guys this is my point is like like even the last place teams are like no we will buy
why what are we doing max celebrini i hope he scores 50 goals are you asking them just to sell
for content i'm at well yes that's 100 also i'm asking them to be realistic about where they are
right like columbus just be bad you've got great pieces start selling baby start grabbing those
prospects and blue trick prospects and draft picks and all that stuff and then and then this summer
weaponize your cap space either go out and sign somebody or be the third team on a trade and
retain some salary and get more assets out of it i think the blue jackets have their future pieces
it's about accentuating them oh how about more future pieces well that's crazy here's the problem
with the leafs the leafs had future pieces they became marner matthews kneelander then they were
supposed to have a secondary run where they had johnson and capitan and well hyman hyman
got rid of them all hyman was no most of them weren't that good and because they didn't let's
was johnson and capitan were they that great capitan could barely keep an nhl job and johnson
who's no longer in it don't you fucking pick up all i'm saying is i'm saying is the columbus
blue jackets have an opportunity here the ottawa senators have a blue an opportunity here to get
more good good people take it take it no don't trade assets for chris tana of ottawa i know he's
a good pro sign him in the summer they're gonna trade tarasenko though which was a cj8 great live
show of course so they were always gonna trade them the the canucks have been noisy hopefully
we'll get noisier the jets have been noisy hopefully get noisier oilers no noise that's
going to get noisy on one of the trade boards i was looking at they had at number four the
oilers first round pick that's hilarious that's good i like that the uh that's not a high value
pick either like i don't know what people are kidding no but it's a 25 26 overall hopefully
32nd but um it's a it's a first round pick so it's going to be valuable to some organization
The Flames are like a frat party after exams.
That's how noisy they are.
The Leafs are always noisy.
Sens have been noisy.
And the Habs, always in there.
Always involved in something.
They're probably going to sell just a little.
Habs fans are very happy with the team recently.
Yeah.
I mean, they've been good.
They've been good.
Any progress there is progress.
It's all graded on a curve, right?
Yeah.
I mean, you remember cheering for those pre-Matthews Leafs team.
Man, Parentovetchkin.
Parentovetchkin, baby.
Yeah, so even if it's not the greatest trade deadline,
I think all fans of Canadian teams are going to have something to talk about.
I need Nashville to accept that this is not a good team yet.
Call your GM.
It's time you had the talk.
Don't make me sing the whole fucking song.
What's the song?
What song is that?
Robin.
It's fucking, she tells the person who's cheating on their significant other with her that it's time that he leave her.
I only know dancing.
It's a catchy song about a terrible subject.
You're actually kind of a bad person for doing that, Robin.
Wow.
Anyway, it's a banger, though.
It's a tune.
Did not expect to be a Robin fan.
No.
The trade deadline will be very, very interesting.
If a guy like Rasmus Anderson hits the market, the haul for him is going to be crazy.
Oh, my God.
like great defenseman and two years left at a reasonable cap hit scary like it's funny a lot
of leaf fans have been like no screw you protect the prospects protect the picks and then rasmus
anderson's name came up yesterday and they're like take it take it i give i give everything
there was the report yesterday from cj about how the the bradshaw livings unwilling to move the
first round pick because they've sent the first round pick so many times out the last couple
years and they have no seconds for the next three drafts and they have a bunch of thirds and all
that stuff and i just sat there yesterday watching austin matthews in the second period score three
goals every single year that you have austin matthews playing at this level needs to be a
go for a year i don't care about first round picks anymore like i was on the bandwagon of like don't
sell the farm for right now just on the chance that you could win a series or anything i don't
give a fuck yeah you're right every year you have austin matthews you have a shot you have a
generational superstar just go do it go do it the thing is just i think you're 100 on on that one
and and uh so they okay they draft they use this first round pick this year that's somewhere in
the 20s well four years from now that could be crazy they could get another easton cowan yeah
like you know what i mean and i think that's that i like easton cowan a lot i think he's that's great
but we're not in the range where we're rebuilding anymore go and if you're going to use the first
and i think there's a there's a point to this which is brad true living is saying to all the
people that are talking to brad through his channels or whatever and whatever filters out
into the world i'm not trading this unless because everybody says that i'm not trading it
if you say that you are trading it well then the value goes down if you say that you're not
trading it well but if you put a crazy package in front of me i would trade it and i think that's
what they're looking who doesn't want a crazy package in front of them well if you can have
if you can have a rasmus anderson for first round pick plus plus whatever it is i don't know what
the deal would look like then you don't need the first round pick you have the defenseman you have
the guy that you would hopefully draft and in 10 years would turn into rasmus anderson yes just go
get the guys and support the players you have now you just signed willie to a bajillion dollars for
the next 20 years what are you gonna do not win like well you have to win if you don't have a
choice no i have good news you guys are forgetting the good news okay this podcast is eventually
gonna end like we'll have to wrap it up for today and people are gonna be sad yep they could then
turn on the cj show which is releasing an episode today and has all sorts of information on this
stuff that we're guessing about and he may have answers i haven't heard it yet that's what you
want to say i wanted to promote one of our fucking you're gonna make a point about what
we're talking about no fuck that stupid no why would i do that lame no why would you give it
Why would you do that?
Give me the Aussie Toronto joke again.
It was underrated.
Toronto.
How fucking dare you?
That was a great line.
All right.
I think we need to go home.
Let's wrap it up then.
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