The Steve Dangle Podcast - McD1Kavid | November 15, 2024

Episode Date: November 15, 2024

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The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle, Adam Wilde, and Jesse Blake. Let's go! Hey, how about that? Jesse, what are you wearing right now? Explain it to the audio and to the video listeners. And hold on, let me do this. For the Subwoofer listeners, too. I don't think he appreciated that.

What do you mean, Steve? No, I don't. That was an unkindness. I am wearing a scarf courtesy of Berlin. The Berlin, what is their? Ice Baron. Ice Baron. I didn't want to say it wrong.

What's he wearing? Ice Baron. Now, they were the ones with the terrifying logo we were talking about. And I think it was because Franz Nielsen won a DEL Cup with it. And we had a listener show up at Shoeless Joe's on Tuesday and say, I lived in Berlin. I went to the game. Please take this scarf. And we're like, dude, do you not want to keep the scarf from when you lived in Berlin?

And he's like, no, I got another one. I wanted you guys to have it. So this is an official Eisbären or Isbären in German. German is such a hard language. Here, wait. Watch this. It's a thick language Anyway

I was trying to see if we wrote down their name Nope, we're pieces of shit Also, someone gave us like two dozen Butter tarts And just rest assured that I've had like seven But yeah, so The Berlin Eisbergen

Have become the Polar bears Well, Eisbergen is polar bear, right? Yeah Matt, what were you saying? no i was saying the polar bears but i didn't know what it meant in german got any other german lessons i didn't know i didn't know you knew more than checks so so we oh damn oh sorry i i i gave up so i switched to french if you remember as well we had a listener right in there the video coach

for them yes that's the same team yes yes uh and they they won a championship and all that stuff so yeah you can do anything in life including get a berlin ice bear i i think anything yeah and i love that in german like polar bear is just up the ice bear bear that sits on ice very simple it makes sense yeah yeah we we all try to make it fancy in english they're like no this is what it is what's the raccoon translation panda of trash i would like that i want to know what uh i do want to say this and i want to remind you we are teaming back up with our friends the kickston frontenac sunday december 8th the kicks and frontenacs will be taking on the sarnia sting but the Frontenac. Sting them.

Oh, it's scary, right? It's scary. We got the pregame skate bundle so you can come and you can skate with us. Or just the game and skate bundle. Both are available on the Frontenac's website or you can click the link in the description. It's on sale now.

And it's on sale now. It was last episode when we talked about it wasn't on sale yet. Officially on sale. And Jacob Battaglia. No, it's Battaglia. Even though in Italian it would be Battaglia. uh jacob betaglia is going to be joining us he's a 2024 calgary flames second round pick so we're going to get to talk to him he's currently top 10 in the ohl points race which is pretty cool

uh tickets go on sale today as jesse said and we're very very excited to get going with that i think it's going to be a blast uh it's it's i just i love going to kingston uh the fronts have been so good to us and it sort of is the thing that kicked off some of the other ohl partnerships that we've been able to do. Yes. So we're thrilled to be doing it. It always takes one to take the dive first. There will be a Frontenac's SDPN special puck

for those that buy the pregame skate bundle. And they say, What? Perfect for signatures. Yes. They're making a little bit of merch for SDPN and the Frontenac's, which I think is kind of neat.

And I don't know if you guys remember last year, but they changed their Twitter profile and it said Fronts, but it was an R logo. Right. Yeah. That was neat. They didn't tell us they were doing that.

If you want my terrible autograph on one of those pucks, I'll do it. Yeah. I will happily ruin your puck. Absolutely. The coolest thing about this is the pregame skate. We get to be on the ice in Kingston. That's something that we don't have with any of the other experiences we've done. Every live show, we do a live show, and there's little fun stuff about it.

But this one, there's a skating component to it, which is really cool. You're just going to work the hell out of those edges? Show off for everyone? I can't wait for everyone to see how good Justin's got. And Beric. Yeah, so last year how it worked is we all kind of gathered around center ice and everybody did their regular laps. And, you know, every Canadian knows how to turn left, but they can't go right.

So everybody went left around the circle. And in the middle, we took pictures with everybody who wanted to stop by. And Beric the bear was there. We didn't skate much. No, we just took pictures the whole time. But I want to say this. I'm thinking next year as an expanded. You get to play for the team.

You have to get on the ice with the team You gotta be the second line center You're the backup goalie And if you get scored on you gotta do another shift You have to keep playing OHL games Until you don't get scored on That's right My thinking was

So Fort William Henry is in the area And it's an 1800s Fort It's the fort that kicked off My love of history when I was a kid Because my grandparents took me there Because they're from Perth and so we went to fort william henry and we saw that you know the guards and they're all still

dressed like british soldiers and stuff like that so what i was thinking is we could do an expanded expanded so a pre-game adams history corner tour of fort william henry then the skate then the game then the live show what do you think about that for next year you know what i think we're so old that our grandparents used to think that was an interesting day trip for a child yeah just go and see them shoot off their muskets there's an episode of the office where andy when he's boss he takes the entire office to see the gettysburg uh like memorial and all that stuff that's what this is giving i have giving andy trying to take the office to the gettysburg memorial have you been i have been to gettysburg how interesting was it

it was fucking awesome man my mom okay god bless my mother so i don't know if i've told you guys this but for a mother's day card once like you were supposed to in grade one you're supposed to like draw a like a a oh no i remember this you're supposed to draw something for your mother and and so you know mother's day card make those so i i drew a union and a confederate soldier shooting at each other and i said happy mother's day uh and my mom's like okay so i guess he really likes this so as a family road trip her her boyfriend and her boyfriend's son and i at the time went to uh like pennsylvania and went to gettysburg and she hired a tour guide and took us around to everything and there's like a farmhouse there that still has the bullet holes

in it that's odd on the office yeah yeah i'm sure you've seen the tour and i got and she even bought us little like toy muskets and i was like oh no i had that toy musket forever man gettysburg dude go see gettysburg it's crazy meanwhile there's my mom who like i had to beg and plead to get a uh i think it was a super soaker 65 okay because there might be a gun element well now they're up to like it's super soaker 3 million just completely eliminate one of your siblings and she was like no you could take out someone's eye yeah you'll shoot your eye out yeah how well do you know gettysburg how well do i know the battle yeah well it's a three-day battle yeah so there are elements of it that i know uh and then there are elements of it that are like

if you are super like they do reenactments and stuff there there are parts that i just don't remember it was i'm not that sharp on it but yes i know i know certain the basic these so you're not like hardcore yeah don't worry adam i got it it was a group of terrans led by sarah kerrigan they were actually sent to a platform to protect the zerg from the protoss even though the zerg attack oh that's new gettysburg starcraft yeah yeah oh yeah well which one are you talking i'm talking about the original the non-new og oh that sounds i also only know sarah kerrigan from the office because dwight dresses up as kerrigan yes one christmas or one halloween sorry yes he does christmas would be better christmas would be ridiculous hey guys hope

you like sarah kerrigan um by the way starcraft game you need to play just no no it's fabulous That's not my genre of video game. Yeah, so I'm sharp enough on it, but I will say that it halted and changed the trajectory of the war, and the Union finally got one over on the Confederates, and that was the beginning of the end. And she turned into the Queen of Blades.

No, not at that point. I still, I'm getting... You're, yeah. I'll figure it out. So, yeah, so we wanted to say all that. We did do an event last night. We'll talk about that later. let's talk about what's important right now and that is graphics graphics are what's important

right now i think branding and graphics are important the jesse do you know where i'm going with this no i don't there was a certain player who played a certain game for the toronto maple leafs against the washington capitals hell yeah uh and or no it wasn't against the washington capitals it was it was against the capital and we and they got it they got t-shirts made and we have in the past made fun of other teams that have had players reach a thousand games the leafs haven't had many because let's be honest uh they haven't had a lot of great players in their history 26 ever 26 players have ever played their thousandth game as a leaf yeah in a hundred years that's not very that's because the leafs haven't had a lot of good players not until

recently uh oliver eckman larson now in in the past we've made fun of retubect which was the Derek Jeter. Terrible. Right? We've made fun of the Duncan Keith one, which was D1K. Dick. Look like dick. And then other ones have just been square peg round hole.

And as soon as we wrapped up the show on Wednesday, this came out, which makes us mad. Because it was worse than somebody like Thomas Vannick getting traded. Worse than any trade. Yeah. Because this is our thing. This is our corner. Yeah. If we have anything, it's this.

It's graphics corner. It's 1,000 game corner. That's right. Scratches the itch in my brain. Yes. So, Jesse. Yes. Do you have it ready to go?

I got it. Okay. O. E. L. Prince symbol L. Now, what I like about this is O. So, if you're listening to this, it's an O, and then it's an E that's also a K, and then

an L. But Ackman Larson, and the K in this one would stand for 1,000 games as well. It says Eck. But the K in the E is also a 1K. That's right. It's like, it's triple-ception. You know what? That little triangle on the end of it makes it a 1.

It's Inception when they go to that other level in Inception. Graphic design is my passion. And I think this is the best thing ever. Not just because the Leafs did it. I think it's kind of bad. I think you pissed my ass. I hope someone confronts you tomorrow. i hope the leaf staff comes over i hope you get your credentials revoked that's that's what i hope

that's what i hope look at that i want that shirt so bad are they selling it no why not why not isn't that great they should morgan what the fuck morgan yeah no smile not wearing the shirts morgan get a clue he looks like he's surprised to be in the photo oel is different He is smiling and is Oliver Ekman-Larsen. It's okay. Hey, you know who's really signed up for this? It's Alex Steeves on the end there. Alex Steeves right there is like, yeah, I'm here too.

It is his first game this year. I will wear the shirt. Yeah, got an A on the group project. Yes, I am here for what I think is my ninth NHL game. And it just so happens to be OEL's thousandth game. and I don't know if they made O-X-L tank tops, but Ryan Reeves

made his into one, and for that, he is my hero. He immediately received it and was like, no sleeves on this thing. No, I gotta show off the tats. I have recently been introduced to the world where, welp, arms are bare. I didn't get all

these tats for nothing. He has a couple more than I do, though. A couple more. And even he avoided the inside of the elbow because that would be painful oh wait no on the left arm he did oh shit there's a lot going on in this photo there's no it's fantastic nice is always so happy mitch is so happy nice seems like he's having a good time doesn't he yeah he just seems like he's enjoying life yeah i'm really enjoying the dichotomy of riley next to marner yeah marner's like hey man i'm super happy for you

i'm thrilled for you like he's being a good team and riley's like what are we doing no riley has always been fed up father who is sick of this get your ass in the car and Mitch has always been hey what are we doing guys let's have some fun they are three years apart in age I know it's not wild it's somebody definitely like

the social media manager was like Riley come over here join this photo and he had no idea what are we taking a picture with some kids who are these people what's going on I like this by the way is Morgan, that's Alex Steeves. He's on the third line tonight.

Is there a more badass shot of OEL than that slap shot picture at the front there? That's like, ooh. Yeah, him with the cup. Okay. He got you there. That's me going Joker. Yeah, no, that's true. That's true.

I think if I'm rating this, we got to have a scale. One, it's got to be zero to 1,000, right? Because we're always rating 1,000 games. on a scale of zero to a thousand it's probably sitting at 642 uh i'm gonna rank it an e that's also a k i think that's what i'm gonna rank no stop don't be out of a thousand don't be difficult uh why what's your number by the way jesse yeah uh you ranked it as almost as many points as oliver eckman larson has oh wow he has 477 so i just thought you should know okay then That was at 600.

Yeah, that's close enough. No, it's not. That's pretty close. No, it's not. I'm kidding. I'm going to. Rounding. It's not close at all.

Rounding. We're rounding. I mean, what's a few hundred between friends? What's 200 points? What's that between friends? I'm going to give him. Yeah. I don't know.

I'm going to give him 795. 95 for his number. That's good. And also, it's hovering around 800. And I'll tell you why. There's an O here. You know how easy it would have been to just put O-E-L and 1K in the O? Or to make the O one of the zeros in 1,000.

Yeah. They actually got creative with it, and I ship it. I stand. I will die for this logo, and I want this shirt very badly. You can give me the one that Morgan didn't. I will die for this logo. I will die for it. That's a little much.

Tell my family I love them. Bury me in this shirt tomorrow in Gettysburg where I fought for this logo. Did Steve fight on Gettysburg before O'Kickill? You fought General Lee for that, and for that we thank you. Adam, so wait, you know where Gettysburg is? Pennsylvania. So you know the Gettysburg address?

Yes, Abraham Lincoln. You see, four score and something years ago. Adam, what's your rating? My rating is 875 out of 1,000. I think it's one of the better ones out there. What was the one we had earlier this year? There was one that was earlier this year, and I cannot remember. Oh, it was good, too.

Yeah, because of his name. Fuck. I know. That's what I've been saying in my head for the last five minutes, trying to think about it. But that one was really good. I'm still waiting for Ka-1000 Honor McDavid. I'm still waiting for that, because they're going to do that.

Oh, for points. For points. Is that a silver stick? What is that? No, that's for 1,000 games. Okay, so what's the gold stick? 1,500? I have no idea.

Silver stick. I would imagine Saturday night they're going to give one to OEL. The bar earlier this year was set by Mikael Backlund, who is Bax, and they just used Bax as the one. See, I'd give that like a 925, 925. That was awesome. That's my favorite. That's my favorite one.

It was great. Yeah, yeah. But yeah, OEL. By the way, I really love OEL. Like, I just do. i always have uh didn't love him in vancouver but i always loved him in in arizona so remember again in last spring remember how harsh we've been on the leafs right side on d and heading into the season i was like chris tanev is the best d partner riley's ever had and since he's

been playing with oel and i'm like nope still pretty good if hawk and paw is good the leafs might have three good right shot right like literally three of the best right shot d of this generation of Leafs can I just say though too for so many years the Leafs were like oh it's just so hard and in one fucking summer they did it Brad what if you just simply did it yeah here uh we need to fix this so I'm I'm like gonna and then he did so let me tell you this and I will get into the game in a second but I do want to bring up since you bring up that that particular thing uh Jonas Siegel did a great article on Tanev McCabe because during the St. Louis game when the Leafs were playing like crap Berube said screw it OEL you're playing with Riley and Tanev and

McCabe you guys are playing together and apparently the Leafs are yielding a 1.5 expected goals that's like a like like one percent expected goals per 60 minutes when they're on the ice which is the third best of any pair in the league that played over 120 minutes together. They also boast an expected goals of 58% during those minutes. Love that. And those numbers are all the more impressive, according to Jonas, when you factor in competition because they're not sheltered.

They're playing, he said, a whole whack load of defensive zone face-offs. Tanev and McCabe have an offensive zone face-off percentage of just 28% over those 10 games they've played together, easily the lowest among the aforementioned group of league-wide pairings. So they are always thrown out there in defensive situations, and they're killing penalties. So you dump Yanni Hakenpah in there.

He does well. OELs with Timmons. You have Benoit as a backup. When was the last time they had a better D court than this? When? They can't really score. And have it count. They can score.

They can, as we learned. they just haven't it just takes a while and we'll get into the caps game in a second I just I just thought man that's very very cool and they're cooking at the time I thought man I don't know I don't know how I feel about switching that up but in retrospect I see what Berube is doing because he's like okay situationally on offense I'm gonna put out OEL and Riley I understood the logic behind putting Tanev and McCabe together I hated it because I wanted Tanev to be with Riley and like well who are you putting him with like a overcooked OEL um this guy with no knee well you know Hockenpah we'll see but OEL I think has been the biggest surprise for Leafs Nation

like anyone who's been paying attention knows Tanev's freaking sick uh I don't think we knew I mean if you were watching the playoffs that's true it's pretty good yeah but a lot of people don't yeah a lot of people don't yeah yeah my question to you guys is what do you think the the thinking is and we saw this against the caps and then we'll get into the game of riley hockinpah ekman larson timmons i think that's what you just roll you can roll those three basically not entirely but basically uh at five on five and then obviously pk i don't think those guys really play together but no it makes sense Riley and defensive stalwart that's who like prior to this season that's who was his best partner like probably Luke Shen oh yeah I would

say they were great together before that Ron Hainsey yeah like Riley's got to be with someone who allows him to be Morgan Riley there's a reason he's actually scoring this season right he's got to be with someone who allows him to be that Tanev McCabe you know what they're out there forward to let everyone else have a terrible time um Tanev is is there to be back when McCabe throws a hit at the offensive blue line and there's a two-on-one and OEL Timmons I mean both those guys can move the puck and if you're gonna have trouble generating offense from your bottom six it is nice to have a third pair that can actually move the puck and isn't a total defensive liability i have to say guys and jesse do you have anything out of that first i'm sorry

i wouldn't mind seeing simone benoit like get him back in the life in in in that decor i feel like he's very useful and i'm not automatically sure that timmons deserves his spot i mean very easy timmons out benoit in oel to the right done yeah easy i'd like to see it yeah yeah me too because i like simone benoit i know he hasn't had the greatest like the greatest start i also think part of that is i i think the only time i really notice him and this is the sign of a good defenseman uh is when he's taking a penalty and he's just taking too many of them well like last year it got to a point where like you couldn't imagine taking him out of the lineup yeah right and that's where they were at it's crowded back there if you told me at the beginning of the

season oh yeah they're gonna put oel and timmons together i would have laughed you out of the studio like i'd be like first of all how the hell is tim and still on this team um and here it is working out like true living a lot of gms really stick to their brand like dubas we did many bits about how he loves his guys oh my god he loves his guys true living is doing a lot of the same things he was known for in calgary the good and the bad like signing guys until they're into their mid to late 30s don't know how much i love that but also building from the decor out and it took him a year a year to build a better decor than dubas or lou ever put and i would say i would go all the way back to pat quinn on that like we're we're talking about a defense core that back then

featured mccabe leach um and some other like was danny markov the last time they had a decor this good i i think so yeah i think so bar pretty low but they're over it they've cleared it no problem it's amazing it's it's cool yeah the problem here right now is the forward group yeah and so so let's talk about that guys let's talk about the washington game where let's be honest first two periods didn't look too good did it no but love a good chaos game yeah okay i love a game that makes it impossible to make an lfr video right poor drew poor drew it was a it was a late start i'm sorry are you trying to get people to feel bad for drew no you're right fuck him late start over time late start well late ish well it wasn't 7 30 though like uh it's always

like 7 48 no because every time you start on time every time you go to the states and washington is you know one of the biggest defenders of this it's like all right here's the canadian national anthem and now the real national anthem and it goes on forever and uh yeah that game took there were four reviews four three goal reviews and a penalty review yeah um game goes to overtime like it just kept going and going and going the lfr ends up being 22 minutes long because i'm like how do you condense the story of this game into anything less than that adam have you ever known me to be concise no exactly jesse actually last night uh we did this we did this event and we'll talk about a little bit later but they're signing but i had a i had i had a rap sign i was like

guys i need to rap but i'm gonna ask one more question and then i had to remind steve midway through his answer that we were wrapped i could have kept going he was like he was like explaining an entire playoff run round by round i was like steve can we just get to the oh yeah nuts and bolts of this anyway the question was about mitch marner and i'm talking at length about the washington capitals in 2018 like i'm hopeless uh that's a lot that's it is yeah it is then that's why i'm glad we have the podcasting medium because i'm not sure what you would have done i have no idea i'm not sure what you would have done i would have been the most insufferable person in any office uh so so let's we'll start from the first period taylor radish scores and

then less than a minute later and i love i love this for numbers people 11 12 is when taylor radish scored 12 11 is when bobby mcmahon scored oh um but that sort of covers up what wasn't a great real start to the period for the leafs and later on dylan strome who's having a crazy year pick him up in fantasy um crazy year scored uh later in the period it was however a bobby McMahon goal assisted by John Tavares who's been amazing yes and yes assisted by Pontus Holmberg guys is that a Jesse Steve is that a little depth scoring so I was gonna bring that up in the LFR to be like good for Pontus he finally gets on that do you remember the assist what happened I don't know I don't he literally softly hands the puck off to Tavares at the Leafs

blue line and then goes to the bench listen and then javaris goes in had he not done just a bunch of nasty move it's it's a very generous secondary it's right a very top thomas caberly ghost assist good for him like whatever like good good he needed it good for him i know we went by the taylor radish goal a little bit but that that goal for me was the reason why domi's time is center needs to end like really quick yet a bad game and maddie if we want to bring up the goal visualizer for that one i just want to show you the lack of speed in this guy who's supposed to be the center who's supposed to be covering uh this spot here so the puck's going around the back of the boards and we have here uh the washington capitals getting the puck in the

neutral zone and you see domey trying to trail the play and just being beat all the way up the ice so if we go back here he's supposed to be he's supposed to be turning the other way to cover the middle of the ice and he just isn't aware enough he's just not fast enough to get there and be in his spot and him not being there leads directly to the one-timer that goes out front and it kicks in yeah he's either hurt clueless or both i mean i've never known him to be a great defensive player I do genuinely believe he's hurt. Something I would try, if you're committed to keeping Pontus Holmberg in the lineup.

He also didn't take away the lane, I want to say. Like, he has him. He has him. If he just could pick it up a little bit, just take away the lane and he doesn't worry. That's what I'm trying to illustrate here. Like, he has every opportunity here to jump up in the play early or when he's right here trying to guard the front of the net,

he doesn't take away this pass and it goes right off of him and into the back of the net. I would sooner put Steve's or Holmberg at center. Like Steve's isn't going to be in the lineup every night. Holmberg, when everyone's healthy, is probably not going to be in the lineup every night. But I would sooner put them at center than Domi. And it goes back to, okay, we've seen this not work.

And then there's the mystery box. I'm ready to go with the mystery box because this doesn't work. I like this player. Of course. Oh, yeah. And he can play center in a pinch. i would argue they're in a pinch right now matthews is out there in a pinch let's try they're lucky that they have a bunch of guys who can play center even doer right put them at center

domey on the right i don't give a damn who you put on the left your theory that he might be injured might there might be something to that because he missed practice on monday and he missed his practice today and tuesday he missed it too sorry i guess the tuesday ones i'm talking about then the tuesday he missed his practice then he missed practice today and they have willie filling in at center today who also missed practice on yeah on tuesday but he's back today so yeah he might be injured if he has to miss this much practice and we'll see what other solutions they have at center because it's not it's not working if he's injured and he can't keep up with the play and it's going off him in the back of the net injured sick what dude everyone's sick yeah yeah they all it's weird

that like i've never seen flus tear through hockey teams like they have the last couple years drop the curtain i think it was it was last year the year before someone was like yeah like do you do you blame their lack of energy on like the team's sick it seems everyone's sick and he's like what it's winter in Ontario everyone's sick yeah you're talking about yeah exactly and if you've got kids you're definitely sick and I think I think we're in a locker room of like 30 sweaty men right now with with the thing with Domi uh and the thing with the lineup is you know we've been saying it they they do need a third line center and and a third line center who's really a second line center uh because austin is the first line the guy that can switch back

and forth with tavaris a ryan o'reilly type they've needed that since ryan o'reilly left they needed it before he came o'reilly was like they just nailed it like yeah everything they needed yep yep well except i mean he didn't play right d and i asked you guys this at our show at shoeless joes on tuesday and i ask it again could you make that deal now because i think you might need to you need a dance partner you need a dance partner and there aren't a lot of who's selling a great second line center in november why are you making a trade now because you have to so no one's going to give you a good price no one's going to give you what you want at all so the other the other name that comes up and i haven't seen any ahl games to corroborate this

but fraser mitten is a guy that they see as you know a future here but i think that's a little bit of an unfair environment to put him in especially since he's only played two games or three games at the ahl level so far this year with that high ankle sprain yeah well i mean you can spend high-end assets to fix the problem or you can again go to the much cheaper mystery box and see what it gives you and and like he did score last night by the way yep um i think it was kyle cushman said whoever is leading the american hockey league in shots per game uh or uh, shots is shooting at 4.67 shots per game. Minton in the few games that he's played with the Marlies is at 4.67 shots per game. So he's, he's shooting a lot. Uh, NHL, AHL,

it's not apples to apples. Um, uh, you can either spend crazy premium assets or you can see what you got in the kid. Um, we've already seen that if he plays in the NHL, it's not going to completely screw him up. He did it once. He was drowning. You know, he was really, he was out of his depth. I mean, the game I remember the most, him being out of his depth last year, was on the road against Florida. Florida is Florida and won the Cup, right? The beauty of the NHL regular season is you're not going to play Florida every night. Are there ways you can play him for the next few months

and get you to the deadline that would be beneficial to the team? Probably. I mean, it depends on his play, I guess. Better for his development long-term? I mean, yeah, probably playing in the AHL. Second period... You had jumped ahead to that second goal, and you mentioned Bobby McMahon.

On that second goal, John Tavares had one hell of a game. He made Matt Roy look absolutely silly. He took him on one-on-one, and then him doing the stick handling right in front of Matt Roy causes Sandin to be like, oh, I'm going to go over there and help.

And Sandin overcommits, and that leads to the one timer uh for the goal it was so good by jt it was the can we just talk about how the dangle jinx works in all directions why is that i i just went i was like bobby mcmahon doesn't have a point since october 28th he hasn't scored since i can't remember it's like the third or fourth game of the season bang first goal of the night oh yeah awesome but if we're talking about them lacking center depth i appreciate what jt has done the last like two weeks and especially on the game against Washington where he scores the OT winner where he looks amazing.

We'll get to that. But this first goal, it was all him. That was spectacular stuff. No, no, Pontus helped. Pontus did nothing. Let's be honest. He passed the puck to JT and JT did everything. So it's cool to see him in prime form step up when Austin is out.

I want to give him all the credit in the world for that. Can you bring up the McMahon goal on the goal tracker? Sure, sure, sure. Yeah, I love this goal tracker because now I can show Adam exactly what I'm talking about. What Holmberg did? Nothing. What Holmberg did. It's really funny.

It's really funny. Yeah, no, he did absolutely nothing. You can play it there. Okay, keep an eye on 29. There he is. At the bottom. Right at the bottom. Here you go, John.

And goodbye. He goes right to the back. Imagine he hadn't, though. Imagine he hadn't. Oh, he didn't stay on for the plus. He doesn't even get the plus. Oh, my gosh. I didn't even realize that.

He doesn't stay on for the plus. holmberg you gotta you gotta do the vet move where you stand by the bench just in case no bullshit mitch is coming on for him i don't i don't think so yeah hey sorry mitch marner i'm gonna stand here so i can get a plus no it's uh it's very funny i i love a good bench assist yeah oh yeah i i uh i think um then then it really was the capitals game yes and strom scores at the the period and then protoss not the ones from new gettysburg uh scores in the second period uh and then we get to four minutes or 403 or 430 wherever the hell it was left in the uh third period and you're thinking at this point good god are they gonna do this to me i assume you're prepping the

lfr being like i'm gonna lose it tonight uh i oh boy i was actually really struggling with it someone asked me this they're like how did preparation for this change from 3-1 to overtime and i'm just like okay it's not the sens where you can be like all right you've done really well recently but this game means something to us why doesn't it mean anything to you like you let them punk you in your own building blah blah this is just like yeah you were on second half of back to back on the road with travel against a really good team and you looked like the second best team yeah like it was just kind of a depressing loss where they were just not very good and i'm like all right how do i jazz this up like okay we talk about the reviews the reviews for the most part i

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interference uh not everyone agrees well they're stupid then because he he literally got hit by a player i don't know i don't know what to tell you that is interfering with the goalie and then the puck goes in if i had is that hard if if if this was end of april and that's that's game five of a playoff series but it's not and i no no but if if this is the playoffs i gotta put money down steve is this gonna count or not count i'd put considerable money down on that goal count yeah i think that they're changing that a little bit i think this year they've called much tighter a goaltender interference jesse's shaking i what about i agree with you yeah what about connor hellebuck uh yeah that one that one sucked that was the most agreed cj's so funny um because he

was talking about it on the cj show and i'm expecting him to pull out like the rule book and be like well actually under c137 or whatever and he's just like no i think they just got it wrong yeah i think i think adam's right in that the direction they're going this year is if you do anything with the goaltender if you are not like if you purposely are in the crease area they're gonna call it yeah i think they're trying to set a precedent here and that's how they're going to do it going forward but they always love setting a precedent in the fall and then we get to like january or february and it's completely out the window so we know what the precedent is now exactly it could change exactly but if you've been watching hockey this year and you've been

watching how they call goaltender yeah you should already know that's not gonna that one seemed like the standard for this year's standard now i have like a they have like a like a quarter by quarter like okay here's what the rule book is for the first 20 games yeah so then so then the next thing is matthew nice what about him well let's talk do we want to talk about that do we want to talk about the knee lander goal or do we want to talk about the hit yeah the nice saving review saving the world what's that oh no we're not going to nice saving the world and on the on the empty net and all that not that no we're not there yet i'm talking about the callback goal was it a high oh the high stick high stick yeah and then there was the reviewed penalty that got called back right

right um the nice it was a high stick no no they called it double high uh double minor for high sticking oh no i'm talking about the uh the goal oh that that that that the goal one his stick was his stick was hot yes i thought so too i thought yeah i was like okay it was close yeah it was close call him the ice was no goal i guess they got it right there needs to be conclusive evidence to overturn a call like i always go back to that when when something is really iffy they usually have to you have to stick with the one on the ice because to overturn a review it has to be conclusive and then eyes uh where his body is he's a tall guy his stick is coming down from the top it looks like hey he's probably right at the bar and that's not conclusive enough to overturn so

the call on the ice was gold do you think it would have counted probably okay to be honest yeah i agree yeah i agree i also think it's it's it's about where his shoulder is right because the high stick is above your own shoulder right i feel like no it's the stick with the top of the the bar of the goal yeah oh if you ask a room of a hundred hockey fans if it's the shoulder or the crossbar sorry crossbars yeah it's it's gonna it's gonna get completely down the middle and No one will know. Okay. At the end of it.

I think that would be great. The thing to do, the very NHL thing to do is pull 100 fans, get them split down the middle, and then don't actually answer it. Just leave it. So, yeah, that gets called back. The penalty gets called back. There's reviews, the review, review. But let's move on.

Let's move on. I want to talk about the comeback. So, yeah, we're all kind of agreed that the reviews were. They probably got it right. And Lorenz. Yeah, it's fine. what do you guys think about the amount of times uh they like the amount of time it takes to do reviews are you i was in the fan of like okay this is kind of annoying it's taking away the flow of

the game but they're getting it right so i don't care they were it was four reasonably timed reviews but there were four of them that was the problem they did get it right um and i don't think you make a big deal out of it because that happens once a year to your team maybe four i've never seen four yeah three the devil's game was crazy a couple years ago or whenever that was um matt murray was in that so it must have been a couple years ago um but four is four is insane yeah yeah i didn't so i didn't really get the outrage about like oh there's so much video and review and all that stuff because it's like it's so rare that we get all of that in one game it's that's the reason it kind of stood out because it never happens

like this. It happened because I don't recall there being very much rage in the first half because it was goal against the Leafs disallowed penalty against the Leafs taken away and everyone's like, well,

you know, you got to get it right. And then Stephen Lorenz gets his goal called back. This is bullshit. I think in the regular season I would change this for the playoffs in the regular season there does need to be a time limit okay and i think it's like if the refs can't conclusively figure it out within 90 seconds like you have 90 seconds from the second you pick up that ipad then the call stands and then in the playoffs i'm down with a five minute review to

get the call right those because i don't like wow looking at the 1999 finals and seeing brett hall's foot clearly in the crease but oh no they'd already shot the confetti guns off so we got to give him the cup like like the smartest thing any like in-game staff has ever ever done just fire the competitive 100 what are they gonna do clean it up yeah i think that that listen everything that we know about replay and review stems from that moment don cherry called it he said this is going to happen in a big game and and he said it on like rock'em sock'em he's like it's going to happen in a big game and lo and behold it's game six of the stanley cup finals and that season was insane it was insane and also the the crease came out further than the actual

net it ruined an entire video game oh yeah here oh remember that fuck it was terrible yeah because it was buggy yeah take a shot from like the face-off dot and they'd be like oh it's gonna be reviewed yeah and you're like oh this is a waste of time and then the goal comes back and you're like fuck you yeah so i i don't mind the idea at all of having different video review rules for the regular season playoffs because the playoffs is, we all know it, that's where it actually matters.

You need as much time as you can to get it right, but for the speed of the game, have like a two-minute limit on referees looking at their little iPad or maybe one minute. You guys probably did a good job.

You didn't see my stream on Monday night, probably. Why would I? I was in there for parts of it. Okay, so did you see the part where there was a goal review? Did you guys see that? No, I wasn't there for that, yeah.

No. Okay, so I am surprised this isn't a bigger meme, but for the goal review for the people that were watching uh they showed amazon showed the the war room that colin campbell created and got him into the hall of fame which is so crazy that he put a bunch of tvs in the same room i i what a mind-blowing idea hall of fame material anyway the biggest screen in the video war room what do you think it was playing uh friend that's right steve monday night football

oh no i i kid you not anybody who was watching that game on monday oh you know what i'm talking about and then you see the guy go like oh no i dude i'm telling you and listen i don't really have really fun i don't have an issue with that because like like whatever just don't have it on the biggest screen put it on ipad or something like that you know what i mean like i don't care tell me there's a screenshot of this i i hope there it's on the stream it's on our stream well we can't see oh yeah you can you can replay on on amazon prime i think oh okay then we should go back and try and find that it's hilarious yeah i i i um it's it's just it's it's bonkers and and listen i i'm not far be it from me to tell someone else how to do their job i do my

job with the tv on too but it's a it is a thing where you go okay like if is part of the reason that this is taking an extra 30 seconds because you really haven't been watching the games that are on tv that's crazy especially the canadian national game which which it was and i think that's the and it's not a leaf game we're talking about here right we're talking about just any game uh i think you got to have 90 seconds if you can't overturn it boom done and and then in the playoffs get it right move on because we don't need five minute reviews in the regular season i'm sorry it just you can't sell me on it matters that much four is a lot but i think they did them all yeah in a reasonable amount of time but make it 90 seconds 90 seconds boom reasonable amount

of time and i think they got them all right final thing sorry on the reviews uh rule 37.5 puck struck with high stick i have the nhl official rule book from the 24 25 season right in front of me everyone friggin listen up we're not doing this again puck struck with high stick rule 37.5 the determining factor for high stick video review is where the puck makes contact with the stick in relation to the crossbar there you go makes contact with a portion of the stick that is at or below the level of the crossbar despite some other portion of the stick being above the crossbar

and enters the goal, the goal shall be allowed. So I don't want to hear nothing about a shoulder. The crossbar, everybody. Nothing about a shoulder. Okay. Crossbar. Knock it off.

Nize is a big boy. He was probably a little bit at the crossbar above. Yeah. That'd be great if it was shoulder. You could just have Victor Wimbinyama just decapitating everybody. no that would be ridiculous just all the way up here um all right so you guys talk about the comeback for a second here i'm gonna see if i can find this this moment on i i was trying to find

it so yeah i'm trying to figure it out so so but in the meantime because i got the replay open on my laptop in the meantime let's talk about that nylander goal so that goes in yes and it kicks off a comeback and it's not a depth scoring comeback it's a Marner Nylander Tavares win the game comeback start with Nylander why why did this happen because the Caps are a really good five on five team so I'm trying to remember all the goals this this one was the 3-2 goal Nyes with the great steal at the offensive blue line the Capitals were like I mean it's a great read from Nyes but they were kind of uncharacteristically sloppy um down the back half of that game and they've been really good or back half of the third period they've been really really

good this season but you know one game can give you pause as a management group i kind of wonder if this game makes them go oh shit okay like we still got a little bit of work to do like thompson has been great their decor is greatly um uh improved from last year and this sort of thing still happens it's a sloppy play um nice turns it over or sorry it turns over to nice he for the second time this game one guy drives the net throws on a bunch of moves and another player is completely lost on the first goal they completely lose mcmahon because devaris throws on the handles on this one they completely lose kneelander freaking william kneelander because nize is doing what matthew nize does best three two okay hooray it's not even nize's play where

he comes back like that's the a great part of it and nize deserves all the credit in the world but kneelander also makes a fantastic play to come back and and and block the capitals from scoring on the empty net maddie if you want to bring this up here um i think we're talking about different goals i was talking about three two i'm talking about the game tying goal oh this is game time goal oh yeah yeah okay you were talking about the one before that yeah but all good okay okay it's not it's not we're talking about different things my bad no it's all good no so moving on yeah so we're doing it in linear fashion there we go moving on to the game time goal we get william kneelander you might have to move off us off the screen just so we can see

willie come back and make this play but the pucks go in the other end of the ice so right now the caps have the puck in the leafs zone and they're charging towards an empty net down the ice and willie's at near center ice but away from the puck and what does he do he finds his way to speed over to the other side i forget who this is which caps players but he races to the puck get to center and and before this player can get a shot on an empty net willie is there to make a play and just make it a little difficult on him so that he can't get the play on the empty net that is such great hustle from a guy that we always criticize his hustle he i know i mean there are moments where he's bad but he when is he always the best when it matters most exactly you need him in moments that matter

um but let's let's call it what it is again like this was when this game happened like for the lfr I'm thinking about this from a Leaf fans perspective, and it was just yippee hooray. Now that some time has passed and the more we break this game down, there is no reason the Capitals should have lost this game. No, no. No. And Spencer Carberry lost his shit after the game. He should have.

Because of how upset he was at them losing. And then now this is the nice place. How isn't this a goal? Exactly. Exactly. This should be a goal 100 times out of 100 and out of nowhere. So we have a Capitals player right in front of an empty net. John Tavares is trying to block the net.

So the guy with the puck by the faceoff dot can't shoot. But there's a guy right in the slot, wide open, ready to receive the pass for the empty netter. And what happens? Nice. Out of nowhere. Nowhere. Like freaking Batman. Nowhere to stop this free one-timer on the empty net and save the game for the Leafs.

We got two fantastic defensive plays by Willie and Nylander back-to-back with a minute left. And that's the kind of – Willie and Nyes. Willie and Nyes. What did I say? You said Willie and Nylander. Oh, my God.

Willie and Nyes back-to-back to save this game with the empty net. He was playing like he was two guys. And this goes back the other way, and they score. Like, that's the effort we need constantly from these guys. No, no. It goes back the other way, and they draw a penalty. Right. They draw the penalty, and then they eventually score.

The point stands. Nope. Like, Jesse, did that change the ultimate point you were making? Was it about the effort? No, no, no. They make the effort and then eventually at least do a goal. No, get it right. If the Capitals score here, the game is over.

Would it kill you to take 20 seconds to Google it, Jesse? Shut up. So I just want to say the Leafs at times display this amazing defensive effort. And it'd be nice if we got this all the time. Yes. Agreed. Because the thing with Nylander is when the game is on the line, it matters. He shows up like this.

But when it's 0-0 in the middle of the second and it's kind of a lackadaisical game, he's kind of playing just kind of lazy. And I'd like to see this effort all the time from him. But at times when it matters, the Leafs show up and it's great to see Nyes and Nylander doing this. Sometimes he's got a little bit of Nikola Jokic. Jesse. I saw this skit the other day. It's like basketball is job. And I don't like job.

they tell me i'm pretty good so i've i've uh um i have isolated the clip for the uh replay if you want to just send me a screenshot i i can't why not my computer's not working for a screenshot for the i am gonna boomer this just take a picture of your computer okay all right boomer that what do you mean my computer it won't every time i do one it turns black oh so yeah they so they uh they block screenshots cool guess what boomer tactics i like a boomer tactic hell yeah mom and dad have a point let's go steve also took the worst picture of this yeah um it had to be authentic no give me a moment to edit what do you mean edit a little because you have all of his browser stuff you didn't even take it okay here i'll do it yeah take it why is there porn adam are you looking at

porn hold on no okay oh it's all your notes that's so cute yeah i have all my notes up um daily face off up you do so many shows you're so impressive and uh oh you're both so impressive send a good photo oh my god hang on yeah why are you like calm down relax steven i'm concerned for the quality of this segment if you had done it good the first time yeah we wouldn't we wouldn't be in the situation hey domey if you'd cover your man yeah wow wow i'm injured what the hell man you're also a great team did you see as we're waiting for jesse to bring this up did you see him scaring ryan reeves there there's no so last year ryan reeves scared everybody jumping out of a box they put domey in the back of ryan reeves's car and they were like oh we're gonna film

something whatever and ryan reeves gets in and he's like okay what do we shoot and then domey comes out goes and reeves like lou it's actually hilarious i think he's the only person on the team crazy enough to do that oh yeah i wouldn't jump scare ryan reeves ryan reeves around a cold cocky holy shit yeah yeah uh domi's gonna be out for about a you know two months with a broken orbital orbital because uh he played a prank on ryan reeves yes yes it was awesome it was that it was actually and and smartly enough domi's right behind reeves in it so you know if you're gonna because some people that is their instant reaction just go bang i wouldn't have agreed to do that sketch without a helmet and a full cage yeah but reeves can't turn around and do that

right because he's right behind make sure he's buckled in yeah yeah anyway yeah totally jesse do you have this godforsaken picture yet i do oh yeah okay so there's monday night football it's so damn big and that was during the by the way the la goal to ruin dust dustin wolf shutout who was he was spectacular on monday night he's so good and it's so good and he made an incredible save it was just in the net but uh yeah when they went to the monday night football thing the chat went on so many questions because like is it just one guy in front of a computer who's just like ah go well like is that is that how simple this shit is so they so he feeds the replays down to the refs and the refs make the call because they're before this and obviously

i don't want to send you another screen grab it was a lot of work but you see the refs both looking at the ipad together so he is basically linking to them and running through the different angles on the play and letting them make the call i believe so i what i'm wondering is so he's got a screen in front of him and it's on the master uh screen above the football um that has four angles and what i'm wondering is does the ipad get that exact feed with four different screens yes i think it does or at least i don't he feeds one of them that i hope it's he feeds one of them because otherwise you're splitting an ipad into four yeah and if you look at the ipad thing there is actually just one shot so yeah yeah no i think it's just one okay and then he feeds okay he's

pulling from each different window and able to kind of basically drag and drop them in and yeah no surely they would have thought of that like oh wait no it's actually not the best decision have yeah four angles on the screen uh at once listen realistically is it a big deal that football is on no no is it really funny yeah it's a bad look too it's a bad look but tv that's not on camera yeah or just like when the camera switches to you just switch off the football let me just say i have been behind the scenes at other places where people are paid to watch hockey and there was a different sport on and that is all i will say whatever it wasn't the nhl war room though i think i think it's funny and by the way there's a lot of time especially on monday night

where there weren't a lot of games a lot of time between shit you have to do oh yeah yeah i don't watch the game just just maybe don't put it on television yeah i would just not just don't broadcast it you're not doing your work to be clear that's not the ref right exactly hey man can you get this play yep and like they got it done didn't they they sure did it's and they made the right call it's like listen there are plenty of legitimate reasons to pick on the NHL let this one go I'm gonna pick on them it's really funny so let's talk about overtime Tavares uh scoring the winner and the fantastic celebration afterwards the drag in the glove across the One of the things that I remember, I said it to you.

I'm going to repeat this story over and over again. Jesse and I are at a playoff game. They lose every time we're at a bloody playoff game. And it was game three, and they lost that freaking game. And we were there with Natalie Spooner in the Scotiabank box. Remember that? We were. And I think Lindsey Hamilton from TSN.

Yeah, Adam invited me because he has rich friends. I am Scotiabank. I was at home working. You didn't know that, though. I was working. Anyway, long story short, we're in the box, whatever. And somebody's grabbing Tavares. Look at him.

And Steve, but you're John Tavares, though. Oh, okay. So I'm grabbing you. And I said to Jesse, you know, it would be nice if he showed a little emotion. And especially because it's the Bruins, I really, I had this fantasy in my head of John just dropping the glove and hitting him. It'd be so great. And of course he didn't, and that would have been a penalty, and that's the wrong thing to do. But sometimes you need a little of that emotion in the playoffs.

What I saw after he scored the goal was raw John Tavares emotion. Raw Tavares. Raw Tavares. And that was nice to see. John Tavares raw? I'm sure that's how he eats. Mostly raw. You know what?

Adam redeemed it. So John showed the emotion, but the leading up to that, my God, what a play. Oh, it's, so the emotions are, it's a breakaway. Oh, it's Tavares. Will it be a break? Oh, I, but then I'm like, I think he's got enough. And then for some reason, as soon as he goes into puck protection mode, I'm like, it's over.

He's got it. Why is that? Because I don't put money down on Tavares winning a ton of foot races. I wouldn't have in his prime, but he's a tripod out there. like he he's really really difficult to knock off the puck and he still has a great shot and crazy hands it's just that's you know there's more to hockey than that he is not my ideal three-on-three overtime player i'm trying to think of the last time he had a three-on-three overtime goal it might have been you're asking us i don't know we had a live event i think it

was at regulars in toronto um he scored the 2-1 ot winner against malcolm suban and vegas in a game where suban stood on his head that might have been his last overtime goal wow well sorry three on three overtime goal um he scored a very notable one against tampa in the in the playoffs um as soon as he goes into puck protection mode though i'm like thompson stoves and he beats him it was awesome yeah and thompson by the way 7-0-1-0 until that game logan thompson and the winnipeg jets by the way logan thompson traded at the autograph table in vegas for like a third yeah logan thompson and the winnipeg jets uh heading into that game or after that game rather were a combined 22 and two and the two were both against the leaves

that's crazy it's crazy yeah did the jets lose last night they did they did tampa yeah the um division the little move he made too you mentioned his hands like that's the whole thing about that play is the little move to open up the five hole and then sneak it through and the dude was on fire last night or two nights ago the five hole opening was insane and thompson did his best to get uh i think it was the stick and blocker down it wasn't enough he was too quick he spread him out just so bad oh yeah no he he beat him back yeah and yeah just him winning that puck battle and then getting to the front of the net and making sure nobody can get to him at all and i i think we might have skipped a couple steps um wool stopping oh yeah like i was so hype about

everything that i didn't even realize the save was on alex alexander ovechkin had a point blank slap shot on joseph wall what a nightmare made an unbelievable pad save and wool was even shocked by the save because he looked behind him yeah he looked behind himself he's like oh it's in front of me and what goalie school do they tell you to like his goalie form was basically he was terrified his five hole was open it's just ov happened to not shoot there and mitch with with the like that's got to be all instinct oh yeah the awareness to just chip it up just wow yeah like there wasn't it wasn't education no yeah how don't you just sit there for like a split second just to go oh the game's not yeah well i sorry go ahead no no i love the end like

from the third to when the comeback to the overtime and everything that happened because you see all of the top guys on the leafs do the things we love out of them like mitch making that play wall making that save jt being vintage jt nice with the hustle willie with the hustle like it was all incredible stuff from the leaf crazy gutsy two points i would also want to say this after years of chaotic goaltending it is so nice to have two goaltenders who listen i don't think stallers is spectacular to watch in like the marty broder showman or dominic hashek sense i think he's spectacular to watch because i'm never worried and i say the same thing with joseph wool that that ovechkin save is just because he was in the right position and that's

the one thing the leafs goaltenders have gotten really good at martin jones was good at it last year you're just in the right position i for the play what i really like about them is they're not the same goalie no they're not um stollers is obviously freaking huge but like i feel like he's a little bit more athletic um or uses his athleticism um for saves whereas wool is very um i was recently in the u.s hockey program cookie cutter like those guys are just like robots hockey making automatons like yeah no it's yeah it's really i think it was probably cutthroat on the broadcast um when wool came out to make that save that was the key of the positioning it was come out as far as you can just just kind of sprint out to block off all of the angles

because ovechkins is sitting there all alone if you're sitting back in that net there's no way you're gonna make that save at all and ovi is not holding on to it no and and like you know if that's if i don't know the puck squirts loose and it's patrick kane or timmy panarin or you know all these guys with crazy handles not saying ovi doesn't have that but he's shooting exactly and he's shooting immediately like that's that's his strength um damn like just so good from everybody somebody with more more uh tendencies to deke might try and pull a move on wool there but he He knew it was Ovi. He's just going to take a slap shot.

He sprints out and he cuts off all of the angles. And Ovi tries to go five hole and it barely hits the pad there. And it was a great save. The definition of not freezing in the moment. Yeah. Like, yeah, I'm not just going to stay here and hope it hits me. I'm going to get after it. What do you think would have happened if Ilya Samsonov was in net for that play?

I think he stays put. Or flings himself seven feet wide of the left post. It's very nice to have these two goaltenders. Oh, my God. It's so beautiful. It's nice to have a management team that takes goaltending seriously Like we're not trying to cobble a goaltender

together. We have one that we believe in who's a part of our program and one who was a pretty damn good backup who needs an opportunity to be a starter The year they won a series against Tampa was two flyers. It was two

hope and a prayers The bet was okay we have redemption arc matt murray and we have uh reclamation project um ilia samson off and one of them will work out they were right they were for a season and then they dude who's but before that like was wool the full-time backup last year yes oh he was it's just he got hurt yeah um and then he was a full-time starter and he was very good this is a tandem yep this is a tandem and it's great i have no worries about the tandem no worries about the decor if all you really need to do

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From Leon Dreisaitl, too. And Darnell Nurse? Yep. All goals are Leon, sorry. All goals are Conor McDavid goals. It's just ones that he busts out a little bit more often than others. True. You're not supposed to score one-timers going full speed.

No, you're not. He's so goofy. He's so fun to watch. And he's, in a nutshell, something that I've been preaching for years. like dating back to the beginning uh of this podcast appreciate the all-time greats while they're playing yes he is an all-time great sydney crosby when his career is all said and done there's a really good chance he ends up as a top five scorer ever there's a real good chance mcdavid passes him sleeping like someone someone asked us last night at the kitchener event um crosby

is 390 points shy of 2,000. Do you think he does it? 37. Scores about 80-90 points a year right now. Yeah, one player has ever done it, and it's Gretzky. A few players have gotten close. Jager got close.

You know, a few others. Messier. Messier got close. That's what you're looking for. What reason is there to think McDavid's going to score less than Crosby? There's none. There's like Crosby.

Oh, yeah. Like all these consecutive point of game seasons. Great. That's cool. I think if you go to a hockey game and McDavid doesn't get at least two points, you're disappointed. Like, especially a home game. Dude, he's a murderer. And he would have got that point against the Leafs had he not had a four point game earlier in the week.

Yeah, he screwed it up by scoring too much. What an animal. like he's he's i saw a tweet from a uh avalanche fan because mckinnon is just going off like he's having a crazy season and they were basically like cancel me sue me don't do whatever you want when do we have the is nate better than mcdavid conversation you're canceled and sued uh well i mean nate is nate's amazing in the conversation he is no worse than second and that's fine and that's fine um there are certainly nights where he looks better there are series where he looks better but dude like mcdavid carves through defenses he is an offense in and of

himself he's unstoppable guy uh he also had an assist last night so he's a thousand and one points that's six points in two games and by the way if you're looking at the last three that's 10 points in three games like cj's uh point nine points nine points he connor mcdavid in less than 700 games has more points than phil kessel phil kessel had what might end up being a hall of fame career or it's at very least in the conversation on the edge of yeah he was just shy of a thousand points uh won the master 10 was part of three stanley cup winning teams was extremely good on all of them um was it three yeah yeah because vegas um and he's already smoked him jason spezza there's another guy who like damn that guy had a crazy career for a long time

McDavid has already smoked him he might double him up it's unbelievable he's not even 30 he's not even particularly close to 30 he's 27 like he has a long time to continue just carving through this league and in our lifetimes maybe not in our lifetimes because we were tiny children for like the very end of Mario Lemieux's peak but there hasn't been a player like Connor McDavid in at least 30 years

there are only two seasons where McDavid hasn't scored over 100 points and the first one is his first year where he broke his collarbone early on in the year he played 45 games and then the other one is 1920 where the season was cut short and he was 3 points shy at 64 games

up 100 points what did he have the next season that was only 56 games 105 105 they showed 72 assists in 56 games they showed uh there was a graphic um for uh who he scored all his thousand points against the Canucks are like the number two team I believe is Calgary I think the total is he scored 58 points against the flames Canucks are 67 wow so they're in the same division usually so that's why the Canucks are so high up there but that Canadian division that Oilers team bullied the shit out of two teams in particular because the Leafs are high up there too in large part because of that season they bullied the shit out of the Canucks and the Sands oh my god they murdered the Sands Matt Murray and the Sands poor guy well you can understand why Tim Murray had

such a glum look on his face when Buffalo didn't get the first overall pick um because putting that in perspective and I want to say Jack Eichel's ridiculous and he's not close well and and that's the thing Jack Eichel is a spectacular centerman and for a lot of his his career he's played a little bit injured and played on awful buffalo teams but he's about a point a game guy in 550 got five games he's 539 points if you offered me three of him for mcdavid i wouldn't take it and he's unbelievable he might have a hall of fame career when it's all said and done too but no thank you i don't want him this is an all-time he's mcdavid is going to be in the hall of fame of the hall of fame like there's there's a class of like this this is what we

talk about when someone like jeremy rona comes up that's a guy who yeah yeah he's hall of famer he could get in and then he gets in uh do you put him in like who are the best players of his generation we need to we don't need to go too deep on this too no no we don't have to go too deep on it i'm trying to talk like lemieux would be the caliber of the jogger the only three people to beat mcdavid to a thousand points are gretzky greatest player ever lemieux second greatest player ever some people argue the greatest and mike bossy criminally underrated maybe most underrated player of all time didn't play long enough though did not play long enough injuries still arguably arguably if you really want to be a nerd about it the greatest goal

scorer of all time his yeah if you really want to be in those are nuts yeah his goal totals are insane he was elite retired yeah he only played 10 nhl seasons and his last one he had 38 goals the year before that he had 61 38 in 63 games in that last season he just he didn't have the longevity to play and he would have been even higher on the ranks of the all-time greats if he could just uh also one of the nhl's grumpiest people yes by all he played with all hate he was an all hate he hated the puck hated everyone hated it so hated gretzky that guy hated gretzky if he hated goalies more he would have hit them on purpose yeah but he couldn't do it he hates the back of the net more um he definitely had the cups though because he was a part of that

islanders oh yeah four straight cups uh do you guys want a mcdavid stat pack oh my god hit me i got i love a stat pack i got about eight for you the nhl stat packs are actually so good so mcdavid we all we all know that he's fourth uh fastest yep he's also the fourth youngest player oh yeah so we have gretzky who did it in 23 years 328 days mario who did it in 26 years 171 days and And then Stevie Y, who did it in 27 years and 291 days. And McDavid comes in at 27, 306. And that's McDavid, broken collarbone, COVID season, COVID season. Insane.

McDavid hit the milestone with his 18th point of the season, the sixth time in 10 NHL seasons that he needed less than 15 games to accumulate his 18 points. Wow. McDavid's prime and the end of Crosby's career are two of the biggest reasons why I will never forgive the NHL if there's another work stoppage ever. McDavid has recorded nearly half of his points to date

on goals that Leon Dreisaitl also was a part of. That's 44%, including his milestone 1,000th point. Can you guys name for me the two players below Dreisaitl Dreisaitl on points on McDavid's, points on same goal. Okay, so like if McDavid's involved in the goal, they also were involved. So they might have scored, they might have gotten an assist. Exactly. Because we're talking about points for McDavid.

So Dreisaitl's first, points on same goal is 446. This teammate is second at 204. Nuge or Bouchard? I was going to say Nuge. No, Bouchard hasn't been around long enough. Nuge is second, 204. Who's third? Darnell?

No. like we're talking like nurse goals what no like mcdavid assists on nurse goals or that person or on a mcdavid goal we're talking about the points mcdavid has where that other player was in on there's a goal scored mcdavid's on it and this other player is exactly so it all tally up to a thousand i don't know if hyman's been his teammate long enough No, he hasn't. Can't. No.

Oh, man. I'll just say Bouchard because he's put up a lot of points. If it's Tyson Berry, I'm going to laugh. No, it couldn't be. It could be. Hyman, screw it. Yeah. Zach Hyman.

And then after that, Darnell Nurse, Tyson Berry, Evan Bouchard. Tyson Berry. Oscar Clefbaum and Yessi Pouliard. Oh, Oscar Clefbaum. And we were robbed of Oscar Clefbom. That's the top list of the players who have been on the same goal as McDavid to reach his thousandth. Oh, we were so robbed.

It kind of shows you how much he's played with the same guys, right? Like the fact that Pooley-Yarvey and Clefbom are even on that list. Those guys haven't been Oilers for several years. Canada is the only Four Nations face-off participant with multiple active NHL players who have 1,000 career points. Can you name the other ones? one more time Crosby Canada is the only four nations face

off participant with multiple active NHL players who have 1000 career points can I name them I mean Crosby for sure multiple active guys I'm trying to think of older I'm a little tired I'm going to try to figure

this out though like I'm a little like worn out has McDavid not McDavid you stupid idiot McKinnon So, Crosby is the only official answer because he's been named to the team, but we're going to assume that Stephen Stamkos also will make the team, and he has reached 1,000 points. So, Crosby is the actual answer. Steve, you win. Claude Giroux probably won't make the team, but has 1,000. John Tavares has 1,000.

And for the U.S., if you really want to get funky with it, Patrick Kane has 1,000, but I don't think he's going to make the U.S. roster. Okay. A couple last stats. McDavid became the fourth player in Oilers' history to record 1,000 points, following Gretzky, Yari Curry, and Mark Messier. To add to the McKinnon discourse, he's at 932. He's very close, but he's not there yet. Could happen this year.

He's on pace for like 120 assists. He probably will, honestly. He has seven goals, 26 assists. I found this one fascinating. McDavid also recorded his 306th career multi-point game on November 14th. The most ever by an NHL player through the game in which he hit the 1,000-point milestone. So a third of his games are multi-point. So even when Gretzky hit his number, he did not do it in as many multi-point games as Connor McDavid.

Gretzky had 278 multi-point games at the time of his 1,000th career point. McDavid had 306. That's psycho. So that shows McDavid goes colder more often? No. Here's what we're missing. What? Gretzky got to 1,000 faster because he was having four, five, and six point.

Yeah, that's true. You're just saying there's less games in there. Yeah. So overall. yeah i was trying to do the math i'm like how is that even possible because gretzky's so cracked yeah he friggin but and so were 80s scores sure yeah but 80s scores were nuts that is the argument against gretzky and none of them were even fucking close yeah no i'm sorry i don't listen i'll listen to arguments but like gretzky's the best of all time uh he's still the best goal scorer of all

time until obie passes him end of story did he score it yes end of story you gotta score it to score it you gotta score it to win it that's a great point on the the math there gretzky did it so quick that he has less multi-point games but he just had a bunch of multi-point games that were so extravagant yeah yeah great thinking who uh like would quant hockey have like most career three-point games most career four-point games i'm sure five i'm sure we could find that he must hold all of them yeah uh mcdavid required 58 games to go from 900 to a thousand uh that's January 2nd versus Philly to last night. McDavid has steadily climbed the ranks through his milestone progressions,

becoming the fifth fastest in NHL history to each of his past two. Oh, he's the fifth fastest to go from 800 to 900, 900 to 1,000. And then last one, McDavid's career points per game is at a rate of 1.52, which puts him on pace to be in the range of 1,224 points by the end of the 2025-2026 season, which would propel him to the top 50 all-time in NHL scoring. Before he turns 30. Yeah, so by the end of the 2026 season,

we can expect McDavid to be in the top 50 of all-time scoring. That's the last one. Sidney Crosby will play two games this weekend, and it's very likely that he hits 600 goals. He's currently too shy of that. So we have another big one coming, which is exciting. 600 is a very elite company. I think we talked about it.

What is it, 20 guys? Yeah, it's very, very small. Very, very small. Really elite company, and McDavid's going to get there too. We have a bunch of other stuff we've got to get to, though. Are you being disrespectful to one of the best goaltenders of our generation? What's going on with Peter Mrazek? Andre Vasilevsky also hit a milestone last night.

Oh, I am being disrespectful. Oh, did he? Yes. Andre Vasilevsky became the fastest goalie ever to reach 300 wins. Oh, I thought you were going to say he became the second goalie this season to prove the Jets are fraught. Because I know that that's a Jesse Blake take from earlier this year. Vasilevsky deserves a shout out in our milestone watch segment.

Vasilevsky is the 40th goalie to hit the milestone. he did it in 490 games breaking the record set by jacques plant wow who did it in 521 games you know what's a beat him by a lot what's amazing about that too and vasilevsky does play a lot of games but we went through this a couple weeks ago where like oh ed belford just casually played 75 games that year bro der was at 80 80 or whatever you know 86 is a funny 86 you know what i'm saying like there there was a during the height of they called it the golden era of it was just the golden era of boring hockey uh wah hasik joseph broder uh those guys being like the best of the best of the best at that time late 90s early 2000s pre-lockout um it's amazing

with all the games that those guys won with all the games they played that it's vasilevsky who's the number one that's crazy key asterisk uh no ties true no ties it uh uh in my research in my book it screws up everything yep it screws up everything i just want to know why you want to take away this record from this man uh he got an honorable mention on my goalie mount rushmore oh that's it a well because his career is not done but by the end of it like again with guys who are all timers and appreciating guys who are like while they're playing while they're in their prime to me andre vasilevsky could retire tomorrow and he should be in the hall i don't think anybody would disagree with that yeah but some people look well he's not even

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matt adam yes what else uh well i thought you guys might find it interesting uh to just go through does it you know what i like we liked branding to start the show i'd like some stats do you guys like stats i love we just had a ton of them yeah well how about some more stats okay you ready oh i hate the way the nhl sets up its leaders but here we go currently there are there is one man who's leading the nhl in goals name him in goals just goals caulfield no one man that is one man nico he's your nope jesse give me a guess willie no is it well no he's tied so it's not one man tied for it tied for second oh you didn't say that yeah well i didn't get to finish there is one man and he just signed an extension this summer for a lot less money than

we thought that he should make leon dry side state oh let's talk you had it steven nope tax free state tax free state got a crazy deal scored a bunch of goals last year we hung out with him for pepsi for the sam reinhardt sam reinhardt sam reinhardt sam reinhardt has 13 goals in 17 games Now, Drysaddle, Nylander, Rantanen, and Caulfield are tied for second. And I don't know what the points break are on that. But what's hilarious is Drysaddle has 22 points, 12 goals. Nylander has 20 points, 12 goals. Rantanen has 25 points, 12 goals.

And Caulfield has 13 points, 12 goals. Holy shit! Give him someone to pass to. That's really like Marchenko-Columbus Blue Jackets numbers. Like, crazy. Like, I've scored 20 goals, and I have two assists. Brandon Peary. I'm trying to remember other guys who are even remotely close.

That's crazy. Well, it's because he's the only one on the Montreal Canadiens with any finishing ability. Maybe Nick Suzuki, but like truly. Suzuki, yeah. So what I find hilarious about this is Pierre Lebrun said yesterday on Insider Trading that Cole Caulfield's probably not going to make Team USA. Dude, that is so stacked.

To me, I like audibly laughed at my TV when I saw it because it came out of nowhere. yeah it was shocking that that's just a report that he's like you know what this guy not good enough i was like well where is this coming from well the discussion around team canada is hey their uh goalie is just going to be like a bag of leaves it's just going to be like a yard waste bag uh and cole caulfield is not good enough to make team usa holy shit Do you think that he's saying the report so that people will be up in arms and maybe they'll change their mind? No, I think it's legitimate news, Jess.

No, I think it's news, but is it news to sway the management of Team USA? No. I'm just trying to figure out the idea behind dropping the news. Does he know the roster? Well, so CJ has projected rosters. I can send you the link, Jesse, if you care. Who do you take off this list? Matthew Kachuk?

No. JT Miller? That's an interesting conversation. Clayton Keller? How's his season? And Minnesota standout and very good member of my fantasy team, Matt Boldy. Oh, definitely not. That's your right side.

and he has he has um an extra guy up front because remember it's 23 man some of the teams were asking for 25 man rosters and the league won't let him do it at center they've got matthews eichel hughes larkin and then vinnie trocek as your fill-in so that's so good so and then so and then you're you're then you're bringing an extra defenseman too and actually the seventh best defenseman for the states right now is john carlson like that's insane hot damn uh and and then you bring a you You bring three goalies. You bring Hellebuck, Otter, and Swayman. So there's really not room for a spare right wing.

Who do you take off? Kachuk? No. Miller, Keller, Boldy. What do you think? So Miller has low-key not had a very good start to his season. It's actually kind of crazy how slow Pedersen has started, how slow Miller has started,

and how the Canucks are still winning a big old bunch of games. Yep. But he kills penalties. So that's pretty key. and he's going to be playing with... No, J.C. Miller, to me, has got to be on that team. He's too useful. No, I'm just pointing it out.

The reason we're talking about Caulfield... He is also a maniac. You need a maniac. The reason we're talking about Caulfield, though, is his recent accomplishments, right? So if you're holding up what Caulfield's done versus what Miller has done, to me, the conversation begins and ends with Caulfield.

Can Caulfield play the left wing? Well, the left wing's pretty good, too. Can you tell him to... Here's what you got. Switch to the other side? Brady Kachuk. no kyle connor no jake gensel interesting but no chris kreider no no in a fourth line role no way no because it's funnier because it makes habs fans matter it's chris kreider it also makes

sense if you're because you're taking vinny trocek i assume so you want kind of kreider too to just have the chemistry sure no yeah and i like how you take defense pairs he's also young which uh every national program despises for some reason um this this reminds me of martin saint louis like winning the scoring title and then getting left off the canada sochi team and then bringing being brought on anyway as an injury spare yeah um but the difference was like that's martin saint louis how established stanley cup winner yeah it was stupid at the time and it wrecked his relationship with the lightning like he and eisenman were never the same after that so so this isn't comparable to that what it does remind me of a little bit is canada's 2006 olympic

team leaving off crosby i think crosby pretty sure stam no it wasn't stamkos i want to say like spezza and eric stall were on like the taxi squad or something like that and those all three of those guys were insane well and also you you brought on guys so you had todd bertuzzi who was past his prime wow you had uh chris draper played a role but like you didn't need to bring chris draper he uh he played a role you want to go um oh man but over crosby holy shit yeah todd bertuzzi like was was sort of past it at that point uh they did have some young guys but They took Shane Doan instead. They took Ryan Smith instead.

They took guys who were very, very good, but not Crosby. Crosby. Not Santos. Back to this roster. There's also no Jason Robertson, no Tage Thompson. Wow. And no Cole Caulfield. Jason Robertson's having a bad year, though.

I guess, looking at it on paper, yeah, Caulfield probably doesn't crack the line. Tage. Tage should, like, that's crazy. But where? But where? You're right. You say that, but who's you taking out? Yeah, exactly.

Well, Vinny would be, honestly, I would take, I love Vinny Trocek. I'd take Tage. Okay. What a stack team. I would take Tage. That's just my personal opinion. And you know how much I love Vinny Trocek, but Tage is the guy for me. And it doesn't mean he won't be my favorite.

I wouldn't, but. You wouldn't? Yeah, I feel like he's been on fire this year. He's been unbelievable. Yeah. But Vinny Trocek here in CJ's lineup is also the fifth center. Yeah. So he's also the extra.

So I don't know. It's real. It's so good. Like this USA team, it makes sense that Caulfield won't crack it. Let's play if I was a billionaire and could fund things for fun. I would have an eight-team tournament, and it would be four teams of Americans. against four teams of canadians so in theory americans can play americans in the gold medal

game canadians can play canadians in the gold medal game or you could just have conferences the canadian conference whoever comes out of that plays the team that comes out of the american one i would a million percent do that because there's going to be so many teams or so many players left off of both those rosters that are just killers like sweden's ridiculous too like they could win it finland is ridiculous they could win it but they don't have the depth well and they they couldn't ice those four teams there's conversations about rasmus anderson who's had a great year maybe being included in sweden i'm like how do you not maybe maybe that maybe that's the that's

the highlight that's the thing on oh wait you know why caulfield not making team usa is a big story why because some of the games are in montreal oh there you go it's montreal and boston there you go there's a reason for it being like news news yes yeah yeah like why him in particular adam there's why rasmus anderson uh because sweden like if we talk about star forwards for canada star defense for americans plus star center depth the place that sweden's is a star at is defense right so with anderson you got carlson who you have to bring no matter what you think of his which you shouldn't but you have to now because you've already named him you've already

He's got nothing to earn it this season. It has nothing. It's only because he was good in the past. All right there, Johan Garpenloff. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. He's been there. Ask Penn's fans how they feel about his performance.

I hope he plays better for Sweden because you're going to get a lot of goals when Eric Carlson's on the ice. So throw it to his end. Current Swedish defensemen who aren't named Rasmus Andersson who are in the NHL. Victor Hedman, Matthias Ekholm, Rasmus Dahlien, Hampus Lindholm, Gustav Forsling, Jonas Brodine, Adam Larson, OEL. Like that's shacks. And I didn't even put Rasmus Andersen in that list. I think you put Rasmus in over Larson.

I don't think OEL sniffs that. No, no, but I'm just saying that's a collection of sweetest defensemen. So let's say Hedman, Ekholm, Dahlien, Lindholm, Karlsson, Forsling. That's six. and anderson's despair good lord does is anderson beating out brody yes i think he's okay then he's i think he's better this year if we're going on recency because that's what these teams too have been talking about right i think anderson is a better player are you that's that's an exact man it's a good team holy shit yeah holy shit is gonna have some trouble man dude this is gonna

be a great tournament oh yeah maybe not for canada perhaps i don't know how that's gonna go You need a goalie to get hot for literally a week. And here's what's going to bother Montreal Canadiens fans, because Nick Suzuki, according to Chris's projection, is projected to make it as the fourth-line center, and Wyatt Johnson potentially as the fifth. So you'd have McDavid, Crosby, Point, Suzuki, Johnson. That's crazy.

On the right wing, McKinnon, Reinhardt, Mitch Marner, Mark Stone. That's an insane right wing. Left wing, Hyman, Marchand, Hagel, Bennett. Canada's not that good. What? that's insane in comparison to team usa i like canada's defense a lot i mean hyman hasn't been the greatest recently the the left wing is the one where i go oh that's a little disappointing dude i don't know man i like that's a lot of hard okay okay read read out canada's left wing

hyman marshand hagel bennett kachuk connor gensel crider yeah okay i'm taking that they win that one uh-huh center mcdavid crosby point suzuki johnston matthews eichel hughes larkin now on the right wing they have mcdavid or i'm sorry mckinnon yeah we haven't got yes but we haven't got there yet right no no but i'm saying mckinnon like add to the center depth you can simply at any right right be like oh i'm putting mckinnon yes yeah right right yeah so then right wing mckinnon reinhardt stone and marner uh and but then and then the usa defense it's better than canvass well you got on the left side tase theodore and morrissey on the right side kale mccarr patrangelo evan bouchard and mackenzie weaker hughes mcavoy slavin fox

warensky faber i think you're not putting enough respect on that canada group yeah i don't know i'm a little it's a good group i'm a little two of them play together i'm a little i feel like i'm taking the usa i'm feeling like canada's got a whole lot of offensive defensemen there and it just it's guys who can play both macar's like well macar are so underrated i mean macar they're under i'm not talking about kiel macar right okay i'm talking about evan bouchard yeah no i'm talking about he's a spare i'm talking about uh well is it him or mackenzie wieger i do you not put like listen bouchard you can say what you want but canada's got a questionable goaltending pool Bennington who's not been good Aiden Hill has been

okay Cam Talbot who's Cam Talbot he's been pretty good yeah so so in that particular and I don't know how Bennington is supposed to be the projected starter I just don't get it but I like short potentially looking at bringing on a guy who might have the best expected goals against in the entire NHL of the last three seasons is a guy named Chris Tanev who could potentially come in and play right d in and and be shorthanded and zone exits and all that stuff listen i know that it's not going to make me popular in edmonton or calgary he's in the conversation he should be he should be i think they need a little more i think you're gonna have to understand what you are which is you can't rely on your goaltenders to bail you out like

the other teams can bouchard to me is like subin on the 2014 team like he's there because he deserves to be but also where are you using him yeah yeah oh man we need him on the power um you know if we kill my car kill my car eh yeah just thought we'd throw that out yeah 19 assists in 17 games to hail my car yeah oh man that's no this is gonna be um i love that they've inserted this into the hockey schedule oh it's awesome it adds some flavor i don't know how anybody's beating connor hellebuck with that defense in front of him and matthews and eichel and jack hughes i agree to me it's close and then you get to go and you're like oh they're dead yeah i don't know i look at the overall roster of team usa and i say they got to be the clear favorite i got to

call dog armstrong and just tell him listen man i know you love venner but is that a thing you can do we no uh i actually can't but please let's not start there let's not start there be like adam first of all how'd you get this number second of all i don't think you know him well enough to call him binner that's true have we ever seen mcdavid and mckinnon play together uh team north america they were on that together yeah because that was matthews mckinnon mcdavid yeah it would be kind of sweet to see that like if they needed a goal or something it's like crosby mcdavid mckinnon out there do you remember the other player on the matthews mcdavid line uh marner was there but no probably not on that line right uh no i don't know if marner was there was marner not on

the team i don't think so which no he wasn't in retrospect it's kind of crazy but i mean he was so young uh so was matthews eichel no remember he's right shot on a canadian team winnipeg jets who is it mark shifley oh yes by the way uh matthews had not played a game in the nhl no so that's why and we were all like okay it's because the tournament's in toronto like whatever and then he has that insane shift against i think it was the sardines where he's dangling them like on his knees it was a dude oh that tournament was so good uh moving on to the next thing because We've got to wrap this up here. Utah HC jerseys are going on sale for the first time today.

The first batch will be available at NHLshop.com and at the team store at the Delta Center. And apparently the lineups are huge for them. And what's cool about this jersey, much like what the PWHL has, is this will be a collectible item at one point because this is a one-year jersey. This is not how this is going to look in the future. They are going to have a team name.

so uh as kind of boring as they somewhat are look at that lineup oh my god holy people want them oh wow it just keeps going holy shit fanatics is like by the way that is just the cast of sister wives yeah i got mad at you that's good enough that's crazy i didn't know that they weren't on sale yet i know well to give you yeah to give you an idea of how not ready like everyone's like what do you mean they couldn't have come up with like a proper team name it's november and they're finally selling jerseys finally they didn't even have that ready how is the team not just skating naked yep well i think they're prioritized it's harder than we think that is insane really cool to see the amount of people that are willing to line up and go

support the soccer team yeah absolutely uh just in the middle of the day just to go grab a jersey and imagine that this 20 years ago it's so crazy it's gary betman is on season 20 of this video um he's just watched it 40 000 times oh yeah yeah yeah uh dakota joshua made his return from cancer treatment i just thought that was worth a little bit of a little round of applause we're very happy for dakota joshua toronto maple leaf draft pick and got away uh but spectacular player for the canucks last year and uh it's uh rick talkett said it's like making a major trade he's a big kid that's got great hands obviously played really well for the organization especially last year so we are very excited to have him back he's gone through a lot of stuff i love the way he's

dealt with him we're just happy for him absolutely every team could use dakota joshua are we doing a press conference today uh i have an nhl car watch but we can save it for monday okay so let me just say this then let's save it for monday i just want to say a quick shout out because we did the event yesterday in kitchener and craig custins from the athletic was there and steve dangle was there and if you were there we just wanted to say thank you steve you know we did a quick little um a little like q a basically and like a little chat about the books uh because craig's got one coming out or it's out and it's called the franchise and it's all about winning and he does interview kyle dubas and he does interview lou lamorello and he does interview brad for living so i think

you'll be fascinated if you're a leaf fan and then beyond that obviously a whole bunch of others um and just so people are clear this wasn't like an sdp live show or anything it was steve book signing that off the top of it you guys were at the library and you just did a chat with yeah steve and craig custin sorry yeah joint book signing with the two of you guys yeah yeah that adam hosted yeah adam hosted it yeah so there'll be an hour long conversation available on the feed at some point. Yeah, we're going to post it because they let us record it and everything.

So we'll post it to our feed and you can go back and watch it. Yeah. Hooray. It was very, very cool. Adam, Movember. Oh, in Movember. Hi.

So my Movember page. Listen, I'm working this mustache for you and I need you to donate for me. All right? I need you to come through for me. For men's health care causes, obviously. Look at that. Do you like it?

Is it working yet? It's working. Is it? It's working. Jesse, what do you think? I love it. Go back to Adam. Yeah, yeah.

No, it's working for you. Does it work for me? Like, should I keep it? You look like you'll bust some teenagers for underage drinking in the 70s. You look like that kind of cop. But I let them walk home and not tell their parents. Clean it up here, guys. Come on, guys.

We can't be doing this. You look ready to yell at me at my baseball game. Do you have sunglasses? Not on me. Ah, if you had your aviator. No, I don't. Okay, next episode, you've got to bring in your aviators. I think I've got gold aviators.

Oh, that's going to be good. How big is the flag in the back of your truck? That's good stuff. We've got to get you a police uniform, too. Yeah, this is a kind mustache. It's not a, I've made politics my personality mustache. You know what I mean? Yes, I got it.

No, no. I want this mustache to be one thing that's like, this is a man of distinction. And it's not just rewarding your mustache. you're donating to a valuable cause. Well, it's not just a testicular cancer, which Movember started out as,

but as you heard on the last episode, it's mental health, it's a whole bunch of other men's causes, and men are stubborn about that. I don't know if you've heard.

So I would love, as this mustache grows in, for a few donations, if you could, the Movember link is in the description. Here is my pledge to you, Adam,

and I hope this gets you off your wallet. I pledge a crisp $100 bill. Oh! Hey, there you go. steve no problem um we we talked about dakota joshua and then movember he was diagnosed with testicular cancer and that's the surgery he underwent this summer so there's a amazing comeback story but it just happens to everybody and it's you know nhl player right there so many

players so many people at a young age like phil kessel he was like 19 yeah how old is joshua early 28 28 okay there you go yeah so yeah no that's that's a very young man yeah it's old for hockey player standards but in the grand scheme of life that's a very young man and that hit him just out of nowhere and yeah so this is Movember's for a great cause absolutely so check that out and you know what we'll wrap it

up today lots of fun this week it was crazy we had live shows we had book signings we had streams where we saw the NHL war room and they're watching Monday Night Football I'm on cameo again I'm not busy enough let me get back on cameo you're doing your stream tomorrow

Doing my stream tomorrow after a book signing at Yorkdale Mall. I'm not busy enough. S-T-E-V-E. The Steve Dangle Podcast. Follow the guys on Twitter at Steve underscore Dangle at Adam W-Y-L-D-E and at Jesse Blake. Connection complete.

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