The Steve Dangle Podcast - ...Murray? | July 11, 2022

Episode Date: July 11, 2022

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, does Matt Murray make sense as the new starting goaltender for the Toronto Maple Leafs? (00:00), You Can Bet That with Sports Interaction (29:00), the Flyers trade for Tony Deangelo (33:00), the Blackhawks continue to sell (44:00), will the Flames sign Johnny Hockey? (56:00), our top 3 most exciting free agent storylines (1:01:00), and sdpn Fan Appreciation Night & NHL Draft stories! (1:28:00). Originally aired: July 11, 2022 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/HBbtuT-qEwk Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp Individuals must be 19 years of age or older to open a Sports Interaction account. Terms and Conditions apply. Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://help.sportsinteraction.com/hc/en-us/articles/216779528-Responsible-Gaming-Self-Limitation-Self-Exclusion. Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Sports Interaction is subject to successful AGCO registration and execution of an Operating Agreement with iGaming Ontario. The Eligible iGames conducted and managed by iGO are only available to those physically present in the Province of Ontario. Visit this episode's sponsors: https://sportsinteraction.com/sdpn https://trybasis.com/sdp https://zbiotics.com/sdp https://mvmt.com/dangle Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This is Steve Dangle podcast, powered by Sports Interaction, Canada's sports book. S-D-P-P, the Steve Dangle podcast, with your hosts, Steve Dangle, Adam Wilde, and Jesse Blake. Let's go! All right, you know what, we could talk about a bunch of different stuff. We could talk about how great the event was, how much fun Montreal was, how great it was to see julian and cj and nick all meet each other how awesome it was that alan brought the sixth overall pick to our event yeah now uh no we're not gonna talk about that we're not gonna talk about that you can hear me i'm right next to you why tell them to turn up

your headphones i'm right here because i like it i'm right here there you go yeah here's what i need perfect amount of spice steve here's what i need i need you to make this make sense matt murray and the leafs want him uh yeah make it make sense uh um go why make this make sense do we have a show and everyone's just like what i'm seeing right now is either and this is leafs twitter in in general i'm seeing two people two types of people i'm seeing people who are freaking out saying fire dubas at the news and i see people bending themselves a little into a pretzel to say no this will be okay the only thing i think that it's got to be somewhere in the middle but my thinking here is that they have to be looking at him as a backup right okay i'm going

to give you a bunch of information give it to us and you i'm not going to tell you if it's good or bad all right all right uh except for the parts where someone straight up said this is good or this is bad okay one most senators fans i saw were laughing that's bad oh that is bad but a few of them were like well actually if you really paid attention he had a few very good months and one or two really bad ones and i was like wait a sec that's the guy who's gonna get five times five that's jack campbell that's jack campbell he had one good month last year Yeah, he had a couple. I don't have it in front of me.

His November was immaculate. And after that, he wasn't very good. He got better down the stretch. Okay, October, November. October, November. He got better down the stretch. His winter was abysmal. It was 880.

It was bad. It was bad. And the only reason he looked like the starter is because Peter Morasik was the other guy, which allowed a goalie most Leaf fans hadn't even heard of to get into the lineup and look impressive. so there's that Elliot Friedman on 32 thoughts today said depending on who you speak to some teams actually point out that they like um his numbers I have heard the same thing because

remember public analytics are not uh NHL teams analytics um some teams will pay for a service and they'll share that information most teams have their own departments i got one question for everything you just said okay how many games adam you probably have it up don't say anything how many games did matt murray play last year so i don't know the answer i'm going to guess 23 20 games so when you're like oh you know matt murray had a couple good months you mean the month he played three games yes the month he played five games and then the month he played seven games he didn't play last year so there's no there's no numbers at all to go off of so then there's dubas's blind spots and he does and he's got a blind spot for how often do i do i say this

guys kyle dubas loves his guys holy shit find someone who loves you the way kyle dubas loves his guys do you want your tweet uh yes this is from um i think this is from the cj show meme account at insider j money on twitter describe the meme it's maverick lamoureux's parents who were making out at the draft when he got drafted which by the way hell yeah baby fucking right i'd be making out too um everything about it was the best everything their kid gets drafted they kiss with tongue it's awesome tallest kid in the draft yeah he had 69 penalty minutes four goals 20 assists beautiful and his parents made out of the draft hell yeah um but it says kyle dubas and then the other person making out former sue greyhounds and he is a former sue greyhound he is and listen

okay and i i say bending themselves into a pretzel to say that this is a good idea i'm not accusing kevin pepetti of this because i find kevin to be insightful on twitter and oftentimes kevin doesn't tell you what to think he just says okay but here's here's where the narrative's going here's where everybody's going have you considered and does this change your mind he has an unusually per uh he has an unusually accurate perception of how the leafs think yes he does you almost feel like he knows them it's but by the way i know that he doesn't because uh uh his i work with his brother oh curtis yeah so kevin is a real person i remember his brother going into the virgin studio and seeing that name in the door and i went is that and you go yes it's the same

pipetti so every year around draft time and around free agency he goes don't be surprised if followed by something the leafs end up doing he does that a lot he's so good at it so if you're not following kevin pipetti and earl schwartz there's another one here's what he said earl schwartz is great he said uh matt murray only had 20 games played last season as jesse said he was very good through the first 18 had a 920 save percentage 920 uh gold save above expectation okay or 929 that is if his season were to have ended there it would have been the first the fourth best gsa expected uh per minute behind shisterkin anderson and comrie now again they all played way more games but then he said then he gave up five to tampa bay and eight to arizona and then he didn't play

yeah and like i mean take it with a grain of salt right like you're like oh shisterkin he's right up there was just turkin that's great who's lining up to get eric comrie as their starter yes exactly and he said his last game of the season in arizona moved his save percentage from a 915 total to a 908 that's how bad it was uh so that reminds me of uh the remember the famous game that got patrick waugh traded um from montreal what he said to ray jean-wool i'm out of here so he had played around 20 games to that point and he had a 918 save percentage heading into that game he had a 908 when it was done it knocked him down that far he allowed nine goals it was kind of a lot yeah the red wings pumped them so jesse yes can you make this make sense because the challenge today we

haven't made it make sense yet i was getting oh you're getting there oh sorry i'm sorry no continue continue no no because i want jesse's input and then i'm going to expand okay all right okay where did where did you leave off uh well i thought you wanted to jump in well we did it we left off that that you know matt matt murray had a 9 15 say percentage before the last game and before the last two at a 9 20 he played 20 games guys leaf leaf fans don't understand darcy kepper is right there jack campbell's right there what's going on i got if you can make this make sense i got a question for you because the part that makes the most sense outside of not being good on the ice matt murray uh the second part off the ice the contract is a boat it is 6.25 million dollars

for this year and next year which is way too much the least can't afford that so how does this make sense steve so there's a couple things there the on the injury front uh the one thing i do want to ding dubas for is last summer he went out and signed a goaltender who played 12 games to a three-year contract worth almost four million dollars per year it was an abysmal mistake that cost him 13 spots in the draft he followed that up by the next summer going out and getting matt murray who only played 20 games and hasn't even been medically cleared to play no but therein lies the rub for all his faults surely this guy is not so daft and so blinded by a goalie he knows and trusts that he's not about to hand the keys to the car to matt murray who has a boat anchor

of a contract hasn't played consistently good hockey in a long time and hasn't even been medically clear to play surely this is a tandem role at max and a backup role maybe so you're saying backup slash tandem i a few people wondered when i because i tweeted out yesterday i'm like The Leafs have to be taking some sort of sweetener for this, right? So I think they are. But even if they retain salary, I'm still like, you still need to sweeten that. So the Ottawa Senators, we know this, they had a deal in place with the Buffalo Sabres where I believe they were going to exchange the seventh overall pick for the 13th.

And Matt Murray said no. So I saw a very funny tweet that was named Matt Murray the GM of the Sens. Because that's, he saved them, right? you save them from from making a mistake there we know ottawa some senators fans and this was funny they're like the leafs don't have leverage here because i was talking about leverage uh because he's under contract he's their goalie okay they're the leafs leverage in all this is the senators obviously badly want to get rid of him so the idea that the sends can just sit on this and not make a trade doesn't appear to be an option to them he's about to make seven million

dollars this year and eight million dollars the next oh it's backloaded yes they don't have a stomach for that at all they don't have a stomach for that at all we know that not only were they willing to sweeten the deal with buffalo but they were willing to retain 25 percent now who asked for for it to be 25 percent was it buffalo because buffalo also needs to hit the cap floor yes don't forget so the sends are going to retain 50 well i don't think they can how much was the marazic deal 3.8 million per year how much is 50 of 625 uh oh come on man uh three three point one two one two five so we're saving 700 grand off of the marazic deal right what if there's a third team involved that has to be what's happening you think that's what's going on has to be so

because the say you won't accept the trade to buffalo but will you accept a trade through buffalo that could happen but if you're buffalo do you want to facilitate that why not do you want to help the leafs get their guy yeah do you want to help not only get their guy but get the guy that the okay then arizona then call arizona yeah they're gonna have to figure it out the Leafs have done three-way deals with Columbus and San Jose um with Chicago a prior GM uh Vegas they did a three-way deal so there's all of a sudden there's all these trade partners coming up you brilliantly pointed out that Alexander Kerfoot has the exact opposite deal of Matt Murray you didn't put it in those words but it is it's front-loaded a flunt

what the fuck front loaded front i'm oh my god it's that time of year huh his bonus so this is where it gets confusing a little bit kerfoot is owed a bonus of just under two million then his salary is 750 000 he also has a modified no trade clause now here's where that gets gets confusing because he can submit 10 teams that he doesn't want to be traded to cap friendly.com says he has to submit that list July 1st. Now I assume he submitted it.

You know, we're not doing the whole Evgeny Dodonov thing, but I have also heard July 13th. It's all very confusing. I'm going to go with what cap friendly said because cap friendly has good information and the bonuses have already been paid out. right so i assume bonuses and trade protection are the same day if kerfoot is willing to wave to go to ottawa that really helps get this deal done really helps get this deal done he's a player

who would be appealing to ottawa because a he's he's good he's serviceable for sure a good utility player um can play a lot of different roles power play penalty kill center wing um and he makes he makes no money he helps you get to the floor um without being owed seven million dollars so matt murray making seven mil they might knock that down to like a mil and a half by retaining a little bit of money on him and uh kerfoot only makes 750 000 so now we're starting to piece it together the deal is makes sense numbers wise but then you come down to the guy they're doing backflips over to get is matt murray when you could probably just take the cash go out and free agency and buy a goaltender that'll cost you nothing and you don't have to go all through all these hula hoops

well why is matt murray the guy because it's not camper tampering is absolutely rampant and we already know the oilers who absolutely tampered with jack campbell are probably going to get him uh another team who absolutely tampered with darcy kemper although that's a little different because the avalanche basically said listen you're gone you're gone so like maybe they gave him permission i don't know um so he's gonna go flurry's already locked up vanachek just got traded to the devils yeah uh york you have just got traded to the abs like the leafs are they're looking for a dance partner here so can i read off the ufa goalies because yeah it's looking a little bleak is it a tough list it's kemper campbell uh samson doesn't

count i'm just doing ufas not rfas uh martin jones thomas grice braden holpe dustin tokarski who might not play uh and then we're getting into the david ridditch martin jones had a 900 save percentage for the first time in four years this past year with the flyers yeah it's uh it's real bleak it's tough so is there another trade in there you know like they're not gonna go murray shelgren you have to have more faith in this group for the love of god now frege pointed out so it's dubas who knows him it's keith who knows him it's also the head of the goaltending department i forget his name uh bobby mcbobberson eckhart i think okay i can't remember um who knows matt murray but there's if kerfoot is willing to wave which i think is a big

part of this is if if kerfoot is willing to wave the sends can give the leafs a goalie there's going to be a third team involved do the leafs have to give something to that third team do the sends have to give something to the third team i would imagine maybe both um like who knows like I've heard Connor Brown could potentially be part of the sweetener I've heard Justin Hall going to the Sens Connor Brown makes too much money

I've heard, listen I'm just telling you what I've heard Doesn't he make nearly 4 million dollars? 3 and a half? I don't actually know what he's at Listen, there's something here and it's not going to be a 6.25 million dollar deal, the Leafs are going to inherit

I don't think it's even going to be 5 like surely there's a third team involved 3.6 million connor brown makes nearly four million dollars well and so yeah but if you trade him for alex kerfoot it's basically a wash and because uh eugene melnick made them do this i don't know listen man eugene made them do this um a lot of those contracts signed a couple years ago are back loaded because they thought the senators would be good and they'd be far more able to afford them that's why connor brown oh he's also a ufa at the end of the year but uh and has said i'm gonna test for agency but like they have to pay some

of these things now and they're not wanting to and they really don't want to pay that and i should emphasize like let's say this doesn't happen and the leafs get him for the full hit which i don't think they can do but like let's say it's five million bucks yeah bro that sucks yeah that's real bad and it could end up not being real bad like let's say he returns the form and he stands on his head like that's it's a possibility but based on recent history no the fuck it's not all right adam the summer that matt murray was ufa so two summers ago adam went into that off season being like that would be a great pickup and you listed a whole bunch of reasons because this guy's a stanley cup champion he has a whole bunch of stuff to prove and he's not old he's not

like it could all still be there but then we saw two seasons of matt murray and then we saw what happen and it feels like that mentality is something we're gonna have if if you believe in dubious thinking that hey this is the revitalization you know that mentality is what we're gonna have to go into in september uh if we want to believe in matt murray so can i mention a team that would have the space for a three-way deal and the leafs made a deal with them recently the chicago blackhawks so i was looking at their top five forwards in terms of salary tyler johnson is third behind tanning caves and then i think brett connelly is in there and i don't remember except they just put him on waivers to buy him out they're buying him out yeah who

plays for the blackhawks holy shit yeah unbelievable so we know just put him on waivers we know teams call each other all the time right uh and the same each other mm-hmm the black uh the uh dubas and davidson with the blackhawks talk a lot yep they were working on a marazic flurry deal potentially according to rumors it didn't work out and dubas got grumpy about it and i remember being like oh i wonder if you know that's going to kibosh this nope sounds like they're still friends they were able to get it done they made a deal on the draft floor while they were talking i wonder if this had factored into the conversations the blackhawks are selling the entire farm they're selling the earth's crust under the farm

they're uh they're they're selling that they're gonna hit they're gonna strike oil like it's it's unbelievable so maybe they could be a third team but listen at the end of the day with all these teams doing three-way deals and sweeteners and all this shit, the Leafs have got to win a round, then win two, and then win three, and then win four. That'd be nice. And does this trade make the Leafs better?

There's no clear evidence of that. Especially if Kerfoot's going, because I think I would argue of the two players that you mentioned, we're losing the better player. yeah out of him and brown out of him and uh him and murray him and brown everybody in that trade kerf what's the most talented hockey player in there now that deal does it does it now obviously there was the news today that um the chicago blackhawks are probably not going to

qualify dominant kubelik and uh strome as well and i wondered if the leafs would go after strome dylan strome that is of dylan strome fame uh or if the rangers are going to replace one strome with another but i dylan strome did pretty good last year uh he obviously played with some high end uh players but they're looking to move to varus to the wing so does that give them the opportunity to do that like it's just an odd or we think they might be moving you know they've talked about i think they might be um you know i i wondered about that and thought okay maybe there's maybe that's what they're trying to do they're trying they looked at how the avalanche won again lowest save percentage in a long long time still win the cup so the do they do they

then go all right well let's double down on what we are because we can't really fix the other thing and hopefully we get at least 905 save percentage because if they'd had that most of the year last year if you look at their save percentage after november it's awful yeah if they'd had that most of the year are they not in contention to to at least challenge the panthers for top of the division if you look at the way the east is shaking out the leaf should be competing for the president's trophy yes they should be they should be competing for that should be the goal and then you figure it out from there you know you win the president's trophy you give yourself a good chance to win round one two three four it didn't work out that way this year but they

went around panthers went around um i dubas made a large way and what did i say though before the draft i talked about dubas's most common trading partners this would make ottawa tied for first with st louis this would be his fifth deal wow with ottawa and oh another thing that i discovered remember you're like what about thomas blicanitz that was just before he was hired as gm the dubas didn't make that deal he didn't make that not as general manager ah yeah no yeah it was a gm right that was a lewd deal because as soon as you said that i was like oh is my list shit did i do bad research oh no okay so one of the things that i wanted to bring up the reason ottawa seems to want to get out of these deals connor brown and matt murray specifically is

they want to bring claude geruin they want geru setting up to brin cat all year next year and according to elliot freeman potentially mackenzie wieger oh yeah that too which is wild good for them it's a good team you could see why when you know geru's coming off making 8.275 is he gonna make that again maybe not uh no but they you could see why they want to move out money that's no use to them yeah of course well every team should want to do that yeah but i mean ottawa especially they're strapped right they are see now i'm sorry i'm obsessing over this three-way potential deal with chicago because we've heard hall could be on his way out i've heard hall could potentially be involved in this deal the sends are trying to move off of zeitsev would hall replace zeitsev

in oh in ottawa or would hall go back to the team that drafted him in chicago I mean if you're the Sens I think you meant Zaitsev to the Leafs I was like you got to be kidding me But if you're the Sens and you have a team That is very clearly trying to be as bad as possible In the Chicago Blackhawks I wonder if they would take Zaitsev

Yeah How many years are left on that deal? Oh man, three? Three more? You signed a seven year deal? Hold on, I gotta find that Nikita Zaitsev right now Only has two seasons left

So this year And next year That dude Nikita Zaitsev's In his sixth NHL season You know what they should do? Instead of like Top ten list

Of like best goal scorers All time They should do Top ten Best general manager moves In a particular GM's career And top ten worst Based on

Like Lou Lou would have Some of the most Outstanding moves And some of the worst Contract settings You've ever seen Mystifying

You can't believe They come from the same guy No he is he has fleecings and yeah you can't believe they come from the same guy that's a great way of putting it um apparently multiple teams have approached the leafs about goaltending and trades because dubas said like listen everybody who you've seen move was on our list keep an eye on columbus um and uh and then i guess um so the leafs are are they're saying we're probably going to get it from the trade market um the leafs are it's interesting with their rfas it looks like um

uh looks like engvall is like a lock obviously to get an rfa although we'll find like a tender to qualifying offer but obviously andre kasha it presents an issue we've sort of mentioned this before uh but he is arbitration eligible qualifying him could mean the leafs have to give him a significant raise from his 1.25 million last year remember they signed him as ufa wait are you talking about engvall or kasha oh it was only 1.25 i keep thinking it was 2.5 for some reason no that was nick ritchie nick ritchie yeah it keeps getting stuck in my head um it's so the abs walked away from nicola obey kubel today and i don't think it's because they don't like the player and i don't think it's because they're like oh my god one point whatever million it was

like nothing um i think it's getting locked into that number they don't want to get locked into that number because if you go to arbitration and they get an award you could potentially be locked into it right so just going back to what you were just saying there about dubas uh he said every deal that's happened we've been in on those deals well they but they those goaltenders were all on their list is basically this is luke fox quote just i don't want to give that he said um he said uh after the deal we made last night and this is over the weekend we got more space and every team uh that had someone was coming up to us this morning so every goaltender he said there were a greater surplus in the trade market than there is in free agency. There's usually something you

have to pay on that end as well. So it's just measuring costs versus what we expect from the goaltender. And obviously that means Georgiev, Vanacek, Huso, DeSmith, Flurry, Craig Anderson, Scott Wedgwood, Toronto had kicked tires on all of them. Why couldn't they have done any of those deals? I look at the Huso deal where it's a third round pick and $4.5 million for a couple of years. Why couldn't they have done that? Scott Wedgwood? That's a really good question. That's what I would ask Dubas Like okay if you've been in on these deals Why didn't you pull the trigger on one of them

Just solve this issue and then you're not chasing 6.25 Matt Murray I can't remember who I was listening to If it was the CJ show or 32 thoughts Because the CJ show was on our network I'll say it was him But Wedgwood has been a journeyman In the league

So he probably wants stability And he got some term with Dallas Holy shit though He could have got some money if he went to market because the goalie market's nuts it's nuts and and i think i think it's only going to get more nuts for campbell and kemper because there's there's going to be a bidding war i was gonna say now the the goalie market was nuts because we came into this two weeks ago being like okay there's like eight really good goalies and they're all out there and like 10 teams need goalies

and like six of them are off the board yeah and there's there's two guys left who are at the dance who are gonna get whatever they want and edmonton's gonna give jack campbell 80 million dollars well Well, and the Oilers also got outbid by Colorado in a trade for Kemper, remember. So I'm looking at that and going, oh, well, if it's between Campbell and Kemper, I mean, Kemper just, they wanted him and then he won the Stanley Cup. I doubt the Oilers want him less, but now I'm looking at this and either they think they can get Kemper for cheaper than Campbell or they just think Campbell's the better goalie.

Right. That just might be their guy, you know? This might be their guy. It's weird that we're hearing five times five With Campbell I feel like I haven't really heard a number with Kemper though Kemper I think Because Washington's still got to be in this

Oh yeah And if Toronto's going the Matt Murray route Then Kemper and Washington seem like the fit Buffalo I wouldn't be surprised And um Buffalo's trying to suck you know And they signed my boy Uka Pekalukanen

Best name in sports Let's go noted uh people stanley cup finalist that's right uh um it's by the way i do want to say this um at the draft uh uh uh pierre dorian was interviewed and if you remember at the beginning of last season they said pierre where's the team at and he said the rebuild is over yeah that's right so what did he say this year at the draft about where the team is what do you say what did you say i don't know they're in the next phase oh boy all right they took a pretty decided step back i believe that they are if you added jeru where you listen that

was like drew to brink at the defense is all right uh maybe mackenzie wieger wieger too yeah they don't i'd be like i wouldn't be quite michael tracos leafs better look in the mirror but Steve missed that joke because he's on his phone I saw Joe Sackick step down as GM I didn't know that he didn't step down he did the Maasai thing

he's the president now sorry he stepped up McFarlane I think is stepping in or something like that he just he went to the better position basically it's the same thing that the Leafs did with Dubas right they didn't want to lose Dubas but then they didn't have

a president's position to put Lew in So, they lost him. That's what happened. Silly. Also, hearing rumors today that Nazem Khadri could be an option for the New York Islanders. That's right. Well, guys, there's a lot we could talk about, but I want to talk about this. The Leafs.

Nope. I want to talk about Chuck Fletcher continuing to Chuck Fletch. Chucky Fletchman coming at you with Tony D'Angelo, who is now a flyer. Now, check this out. The Hurricanes are going to get a fourth round pick. They got it, sorry, they got it for this draft, this past one, 101 overall. They will get a 2023 third round pick and a second round pick in 2024 for the Flyers in this deal for D'Angelo, who then got to Philadelphia and signed a two-year,

$10 million contract. I thought it was a $5 million contract when I first saw it. I was like, 2.25 or 2.5, if you take the character out of it, okay, I guess. But $5 million per season, Tony D'Angelo. dude signed a two-year deal paying him 4.5 per got punched in the face by his goalie sat did like made bought out made 4.5 to do nothing then got bought out so he did lose some money signed for a million dollars in carolina uh and then got 10 million bucks so that sounds like you know again we're taking the person out of it a little bit here or the history maybe the person has changed

we have to allow room for that um that is good asset management by the carolina hurricanes yeah but like it when people talk about like consequences for him and stuff like that this is why i kind of laugh i'm like oh yeah poor guy yeah there are no consequences he's fine yeah he's fine um but from like a hockey standpoint i mean it's also bad you're right Well, the Philadelphia Flyers now have both Tony D'Angelo's. They have the American one and the Finnish one. What? Him and Rasmus Ristelainen.

Oh, I see what you're saying. Two dudes who cannot defend. They can't defend. But they're right-handed shots who put up a lot of points. God, wouldn't it be great if Torts paired them? Like Torts? Let's go. Torts has to coach D'Angelo.

And they might know each other from the U.S. team. So, the U.S. development team. I think that's part of the reason this got done. And Ristolainen, who has never played great defense, I am shocked. I can't wait to see what they do together. I hope he puts them together. I mean, they had to fill the Ryan Ellis void.

I mean, that deal probably does not bode well for... You mean you don't think Ellis is coming back this year? Well, he might, but I mean, I don't know how much hockey he's got left in him. I hope he's got lots. I like him. I got no faith in any move the Flyers make. like they gotta prove to me that they know what they're doing they paid a lot of assets and money

for this guy like chuck and chuck could have had him for free or for the cost of whatever last year chuck buddy chuck i flyers fans i don't know i don't know like they gotta come out of the metro man are they gonna be better than the penguins no well penguins are an interesting case because The Malkin thing, but no. Are they better than the Rangers? No, for sure not. Islanders are probably getting bounced back. Are they better than the Islanders?

Yeah, they are. I don't think they're better than the Islanders. Devils are probably going to take a step up. Are they going to beat the Devils? Maybe. Maybe. I saw the Devils play in person last year. They're going to be...

They're horrendous. They're so bad. And if Jack Campbell doesn't go there, Darcy Kemper doesn't go there, they're going to go back to... Honestly, no offense to the goalies I saw play, but I can't name them. Devils fans will defend the Devils with their lives

No When we shit on them a few months ago We were right Now I look at what they've done And the way their guys have developed And they actually played really well After our little rant They're going to score goals

And next year I think they're going to get some stops They'll be better Bernier's injured We're not sure if he's going to come back Blackwood will be fine But who else They're going to be spending a lot in the goalie market Who's left?

Campbell and Kemper, I think. And neither are going there. Kemper's going to Edmonton, and Kemper's going to Washington. That's what's going to happen. We don't know that. It looks likely, but... Listen, okay. I had some conversations in Montreal from everything I heard,

and I asked a few people, and they're saying Campbell feels done to Edmonton. Also, they did just get a goalie. They got Vanacek. Right, it was New Jersey. Because in my head... So I'm dumb. When you ask that, I'm like, I was like, Vanacek, oh, wait, he got traded to Washington.

But he's not. No, he didn't. He got traded to. He's also not that great. Vanacek Blackwood will be interesting. New Jersey had two of the worst goalies in the NHL. And it wasn't Blackwood and Bernier. It was the, who was it?

John Gillies and John Gillies. I saw play. That was, he was terrible. He was, it wasn't fair. He shouldn't have been. Was it Nico Dawes? I think it was. Vanacek Blackwood is a tandem that can get you out of a weak Metro.

they'll be fine and they have they have ilia kovalchuk on a 250 000 contract i think that's great value for three also their forward group is good yeah but they suck no but jack who's nico he's sure thomas tatar who sucks at defense i think they're all gonna take a step yeah they're hopefully gonna be healthy i mean hamilton who's not great at defense severson who sucks at defense guys they have no defense like we got to see what the contracts come out to but yes per brat and uh miles wood are also they are they're not trying to convince you they're good i'm trying to convince you they're going to be better they're going to be competitive i think they'll take a step do you think they're better than the flyers i do not think they're better at this point

i at this point if you if we had if we had a bet here about who's going to finish next season with more points the devils or the flyers i would take the devils the every day of the week the big thing here is does philly have a big free agent forward in them and i think they do i don't know well after this deal do they have the money for a good row do they have the money for uh kachuk trade a cadre signing i don't know malkin i just yo that'd be crazy there you're asking for trouble 35 years old wants four years no oh the crazy thing is right now the flyers have as of today now i don't know yeah cap friendly has already shown with the contracts off as of today they have 82 million dollars under cap they are 118 000 under the actual cap so yeah maybe not

under the cap that's all they have a thousand dollars they have a hundred thousand dollars to spend oh my god yeah look take chuck fletcher's projected cap space 118 take his checkbook away from him his chuck book it's right like stop spending i don't i don't think maybe that's Maybe with injury reserve, you've got Couturier and Ellis. Yeah. Maybe that number. Ellis would be on the roster, but he would need to go to LTIR. Okay, but then...

Couturier was injured a lot last season. What if Couturier and Ellis come back? I don't know. All right, so you've got a good roster. Yeah, but it'd be $100 million on the Cavs. They'll do something. They're going to be active. They're going to be active,

and they're going to give us a lot more reason to talk about them. It's going to be fun. Why? Stop disparaging Chuck Fletcher. Oh, this is bad. Chuck Fletcher is great news for this show. Oh, yeah. I hope he's never fired.

Oh, my God. This is such a bad impression. Adam, you're going to regret. You're going to regret your New Jersey pick. No, I said New Jersey's better. I do think New Jersey's better. I still think the Flyers are better than New Jersey, which tells you where both teams are at.

Devils fans, you turn me. Who else do you need to come out against? So you need to come out of the Metro, right? So you're coming out against, so you got to be New York, New York, Philly, Pittsburgh, Washington, who they're definitely not better than then. Columbus.

I don't know what Columbus is right now But I think they're the third worst team Are they the third worst team at this point They never are I know but they always feel like No but they're always the team that's on the edge of the playoffs If they're not actually in Oh you mean in the Metro

I thought you meant in the league I was like Jesus Christ Adam Absolutely not no in the Metro They're always the team that's on the fringe of making the playoffs Third worst team In the Metro Who do you have below them Flyers in New Jersey What are you talking about

The Blue Jackets? The Blue Jackets don't have a better team than the Devils. Yes, they do. They play a way better team. Or they are a better team. Adam's so low on the Devils. Oh, my God. The Devils are crap, guys.

They're so fucking bad. Buddy, they're going to have... Guys, they have no... This is your Joe Sackett tweet. This is your Joe Sackett tweet. You guys actually think the Devils have a chance against any of this? I think there's a head of club against Merce Lekins. Get out of here.

He's a good goalie. Get out of here. Goaltending alone. The Metro's friggin' wild because Kadri potentially going to at least two of the teams there. Malkin potentially leaving.

The Devils maybe acquiring another goalie. The Flyers being the Flyers. The Blue Jackets being in on everyone somehow. Because they have $17 million in cap space to do it. Guys, the Blue Jackets are a good team. The Rangers who are just sort of good. Yeah, man.

I'm telling you. That division is ridiculous it's a deep division but they're not listen there are here's the thing the flyers are heading down the devils are headed up so if i was buying stocks i'd be buying the devil stock yeah right now i probably rank the flyers as the worst team in the metro and then i don't know i have columbus like at fourth or not columbus uh new jersey fourth now over who i gotta see what over who i gotta see what washington does i gotta i gotta see what pittsburgh does but carolina and new york uh they're up top there this is not what i thought i was gonna set you up wow new york new york that middle midsburg washington come on guys and also why why do you believe in

the islanders i think okay so the interesting thing with the islanders is the the new coach is a real twist i'm not sure what that looks like obviously we're ignoring the carolina hurricanes because yeah obviously starting the season with a schedule that's not fucked yeah there's that there's the fact that trots isn't there so maybe they'll actually be allowed to carry the puck in the offensive zone once um and i think they're going to go out and make a major acquisition in terms of goal scoring they know they need to it's what's great about the islander situation is that it's simple you need to score more goals that is a very simple problem to solve with money i think you're forgetting all the good players we just mentioned are going to

the leaves none of them are none of them i'm just saying i know um blackhawks continue to make massive changes like we said strom and kubelik may not even get qualifying offers it looks like kubelik definitely will not still not 100 clear on strome um but okay so what i don't understand about this is who's gonna fucking play for the black is who's gonna play for the black and are those guys not useful players to sell it's weird like can you not sell an rfa and make some draft pick like you can't get anything you couldn't get anything for kubelik you couldn't get anything for strome i mean i will always assume they tried but uh you're forgetting the the buffalo tank for eichel and mcdavid which should not be replicated by the way yeah don't

do that but uh dylan strome had 50 points last year or 48 dominic kubelik had 32 including 15 goals you couldn't can get anything every time the blackhawks shed another piece i'm like holy shit conor bedard must be good and that's the only adam will scroll stop scrolling i'm sorry don't worry i'll let you know i'll let you know i'll let you know because i was going to tell about brett connelly but you beat me to it oh my bad i'm just giving you they're not gonna have anybody i know and this is the thing is that when you when you do the rebuild thing you have to do it you can't do it in the buffalo savers way which is like blow everybody out and then have nobody you need to have some veterans around which kane and tase don't want to be they don't want to be

those guys so like like the same way the the leafs had 27 year old james van ream's deck you know the chicago blackhawks had strom kubelik and and a brin cat who were all under the age of like 25 so those dudes do they make 10 or 10.5 10.5 each oh so that's 21 million dollars i wonder if they were like john pat do you want to be traded and they went no and they went to brin cats gone john pat do you want to be traded no all right Doc's gone Hegel's gone Strom's gone

Who was the other guy? The other guy Morazic in Morazic in There's your ghoulie Hey You wanna kill some penalties With Morazic in that?

You wanna keep going? Connolly's gone Everyone is I gotta tell you I have the exact same feeling About the situation It seems like Every move they make

Is a message To Taves and Kane To get the fuck out of here Get the fuck out of here We're not leaving you With anything request a trade and move on so what tampa supposedly did to ryan mcdonough is he had a no trade and not a no move here's the key difference there a no trade tampa's like listen we know you

don't want to be traded but we'll just put you on waivers you know how uh if you were a smart hockey fan you would have already known this because you would have listened to agent provocateur with alan walsh and adam wild where alan walsh explained this months ago how a no trade clause isn't a no trade clause we can find ways to get rid of you and the exact situation he outlined was the mcdonough move where they said we'll just send you wherever we want and that means the ahl and somebody will claim you on waivers and then you're gone anyway so accept a trade or that's it but taves and kane have full no move protection yes they do they are in 100 control although i thought maybe that if that has changed in the last year i i want to check that for sure

you know i think it has you might be right because i think it might be modified oh no fuck i'm wrong again are you wrong no it's no move i thought that they were one of those weird deals that had it in the last two years you know sometimes those deals have that yes but i was wrong no no they got else you're also you know how i know they didn't have to modify anything you're forgetting how good those two were when they signed the deals they were amazing the the world in which Kane and Tave signed those deals was not a world in which they got anything less than what they wanted that hi we just won three cups in six years and we're on you know one of the best players on the Canadian Olympic team one of the best players in the American Olympic team

give us what we want and I would argue that they had every reason to believe they were going to continue to win cups because duncan keith was signed long term seabrook was signed long term and uh cory crawford was still playing well and of course they had a bunch of young pieces and the emergence of artemi benard and shit chains fast sure does keith news break after our recording on friday i think it did yeah i don't think we ever retiring nobody uh i could tell you that one of the funniest tweets i saw and it was archaeology guy going my favorite time is uh tucker keith is an oiler is today when he announced his retirement i was like oh my god no it got them cap space right there's no cap credit for that for the oilers that was never

a thing people can you explain that people thought that that was but you you were the only one who explained it to me in a way i can understand people misinterpreted the language in the cba um so the in the in the situation of a buyout there's distinct language in the cba that says hey if this happens a team can receive a cap credit but in the situation of retirement that same language doesn't exist in uh the cba so people misread what was happening there only a penalty goes to the signing team but let's all be honest here the penalty going to the signing team still makes no sense when you trade a player you're trading the contract and the player to the new team you're punishing the team for something they did in like 2012 yeah like i don't the team

that owns has the player now should have all of their rights including this this contract and like how it works now yeah so if there's a penalty it should go to the team that owns the player and like with luongo aren't two teams being penalized yeah the canada and the panthers like why 14 years later they're being penalized what i said about the wild why are we penalizing a team that signed legal contracts these were legal within the league rules they may not have been in the spirit but they were legal and we're penalizing one of the best markets in hockey 14 million bucks off their cap for the next two years and and i think 12 the year after or whatever the order is for what eight years after they signed yeah why why relevant it doesn't matter

and you know what i bet i bet garen's gonna put together a a team that wins anyway but it's just one of those where you you go like you're the only person this like the only people this punishes really is the fans of the team no one is gaining from the situation no because the oil the the general manager is like well there's money i don't have to pay and the gm's like well there's money that i can't spend so who's it really hurting on duncan keith uh i don't think they've officially announced it yet and you know they're gonna want to give keith his due because he's had a spectacular career uh a lot of people aren't understanding that uh that toy's not shiny anymore to a lot of people a lot given the blackhawk situation yeah a lot of people really aren't understanding

that if and i think a lot of people now would go why is that again well oh yeah because he refused to participate in the general block investigation um for the blackhawks and and kyle beach i locked eyes with danny wirtz uh at a hotel at the draft i bet he said hi and gave you a hug he did not um but uh it's um yeah like listen he was a physical freak uh he had an amazing career we've talked about how it's not the hockey hall of good guys and i mean it's the hockey hall of fame it's okay he'll go to the hockey hall of fame because he deserves to um but if if people don't like him very much uh i don't really think you have a leg to stand on i'm allowed to not like him yeah i also think i you know you don't piss me off last year

was like him bitching about getting like a like you know he was late to camp because he didn't bother to get a vaccine even though he knew he had to get one like like you know it's not it's not even it's it's not your pro-vax or anti-vax i don't give a shit about that you knew you had to be vaccinated to be at camp you waived your no trade con or clause to go to edmonton to play with connor mcdavid specifically that's why you waived it and then there and then he's like ah i'm gonna be a few days late guys i'm sorry i didn't bother getting my johnson and johnson shot one shot deal like get out of here i don't know why you didn't go get it you weren't busy helping out in the investigation that's right what were you busy doing yeah and then the other

thing is you know and and i think a lot of people have to throw this out there there was also the fact that he was a leader on the team and it's come out since that players on the team were we're bullying beach about this and you're a leader on that team and you're on the ice the story hasn't really evolved like we haven't really gotten any new details since it's sort of come to an end and beach got his settlement and everything uh and one of the people who should probably be pretty glad about that is him yeah yeah so um the oilers are well we're talking about them oilers are frustrated by the lack of interest in yessi pulley arvey i saw that um whose fault is that i i could be yours could it be that they spent the last five years destroying his value

right everybody knows you don't want him because you hate him so there's there's jesse's famous clip cameron cameron what the fuck and i'm just imagining ken holland going darren darren what the fuck darren drager yeah tweeting that out oh yeah the oilers are frustrated no one wants Jesse Pugliarvi, a player who every member of the Oilers media has just dragged all the way through the mud.

Hey, why don't you want this piece of shit? Why don't you want this fucking useless, doesn't play hard, garbage, picks his nose with his tongue piece of shit? That's literally how the Oilers are treating this. Why can't we get a first round pick for this garbage

hockey player? All they've done is just say how they don't want yes he pulled the art for years now and then they're upset that they can't move oh and to be clear i don't think he's a bad player i just don't i just think it's not surprising at all and there are teams that do value him and i think they're just you know lmao right i can't wait to deal like a like two conditional fourths for this guy everybody around the league just needs to wait this out and you're gonna get a seventh round pick for him yeah the oilers need cap space to

do what they want to do. They want to spend big. They would like to bring Kane back probably. They're going to go out and they're going to get Jack Campbell. They might get another guy. They're trying to ship bodies out. This is one of them and why not wait them out? Why not wait them out?

Create pressure on the Oilers. Make Ken Holland's job difficult. They don't necessarily I think in their eyes need to get a player back. they just want the room they want assets like more than anything they just want to not have him they just want to not have him right so uh waiting him out i think makes it more difficult and also i forgot to mention this earlier when we were discussing uh matt murray my my tinfoil

hat theory so the leafs are looking through his medical records supposedly making sure everything's okay i think another thing to that is obviously they are looking through the medical records but free agency is in 48 hours and i think delaying an answer on whether or not that's happening creates more pressure on other teams um trying to get deals done good there potentially yeah potentially oh a bit of a theory boy just a little bit of a theory um the flames are less than 48 hours away as of the time of this recording from losing the ability to sign johnny Goudreau to that eighth year of his contract yep yeah but do you want to

sign him to that eighth year like I know it gets the cap hit down but like Johnny Goudreau is 28 believe it or not because he started kind of late yeah I don't know so you want to sign him till he's dude Chris Letang is signed till he's 41 so what's wrong with 36 you just you just yeah just argued with yourself

Yeah, but I don't think anyone is like, oh, that's great. That's great that he signed Dilley's 41. That's fair. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. Okay, I just, I don't know, man. It looks to me, it looks to me like, because they're saying Kachuk is having to wait.

But if the Flames don't get this done, what then? They're going to lose two-thirds, potentially, of a top line that scored 40 goals each. Two-thirds? One guy. They're not losing Kachuk. He's an RFA. and they have to be hard on them they have they have the cap space to give them whatever you want

yeah they're down there with arizona in terms of cap space available you know they got the money yeah and if they don't get him like we already know and it doesn't mean that this would happen again but like if they go after cadre cadre already nicks to trade there maybe he doesn't want to play there or maybe at 10 million bucks he's like i'll play there it could change his mind yeah he's allowed to do that um 4.5 fuck that yeah 10 that's just it's just one love calgary i love the stampede i love everything about it i love mountains i love elk yeah all of it love the saddle dome the thing they're mediating my favorite olympics the thing they're missing is a center like a dynamic center and i don't hate the idea of maybe you don't give

goudreau all that money and instead you go out and you get your big center and not some country man if i'm a flames fan and that ends up being the trade-off i'm not upset so some people are going to hear what you just said and they're gonna go that toronto piece of shit doesn't understand this hockey team buddy uh lindholm nominated for the selkie backland playing good hockey awesome mcdavid tore them to fucking shreds four games in the playoffs you didn't win a single verse and you're gonna have to play him again no no it was five calgary won the first one if especially if edmonton short what it wasn't a sweep no remember calgary won the first one nine six oh yeah but it was four straight games after that four straight and to be honest with you

jesse it looks like edmonton's two main targets this offseason claude geroux and jack campbell let's imagine they get both i don't know how the cat works edmonton edmonton oh i was like how the fuck calgary's gonna do no no sorry oh okay so so then it makes it even that much harder for calgary right and you would imagine at very least the edmonton oilers if they get their goaltending somewhat sorted out with jack campbell that does that jack campbell does sort that out for them a little bit um and just like i i think you i think you're if you're calgary you got to look at how are we going to beat edmonton next year dude and to your point about the centers that you just listed uh lynn home and uh backland they're still on the team it's not like we're

trading cadre for one of those guys no you you're adding to those centers well and look at la with They're a one-two punch there with Kopitar Deneau. Vegas is going to have a full season of Eichel. Okay, let me ask you this. That's going to be a good division. Would you do this deal? Because according to Friedman, and he said, I've said many times, I think the number is eight years, nine and a half per.

For Goudreau. That's the offer Calgary made him. Goudreau's camp is saying it's probably going to have to be higher than that. And Calgary's not crazy about it. Oh, boy. I'd rather have Nazem Khadri. i mean but you're probably paying 10 million for nazim qadri no you don't think so no i think i think he comes in at nine something i mean it'd be a great deal what do you think but he had a

hundred point season didn't he this is going to be a fascinating no because i keep saying this this offseason has the potential to be like 2016 the difference is 2016 the cap was always going to go up i think the players are trying to take back control and they're trying to put pressure on these teams and they're trying to get them to spend as much as possible i just don't know if it's there i just don't know if the space is there like people are talking about well in a few years it'll go up yeah in a few years but yeah what in your contention window you're just fucked i don't think that's well welcome to the leafs well yeah and who wants to be them nobody you know what i mean yeah like i think there's parts of them that are appealing but who wants to be them i think i

think too here's that here's the the hole i would poke in that if you're if you're gonna let gaudreau go he's 28 guys cadre's 31 yeah oh but your windows within that range here of like three years you know and having kachuk and cadre just two bastards that sounds like a good playoff just enabling the both of them yeah he's still got like blake coleman there oh yeah that's a good oh that's a sutter team yeah that's a sutter team i'm gonna kick your ass and luchich goes and just swallows them whole and just he's like kirby just yeah just and and they just go away i asked for a while i asked jesse and steve to tell me because there are a lot of free agents like really good free agents available this year to tell me which three free agents tell you really

which three free agents they're most excited about not for any particular reason other than you guys are excited about them because of the storylines associate so we'll start we'll do we'll do it around at a time there's again this isn't a three two one it's just tell me who you're interested in whose story you're interested to follow steve on wednesday uh i'm gonna do a slash okay because to me they're one in the same jack campbell slash darcy kemper okay um because that just it dictates uh everything else that happens in free agency if i had to pick one i'll say kemper because we don't know where he's going interesting and with jack campbell we do um okay jesse uh evander kane oh i think to me this is the most interesting storyline of this off

season because we could see a team sign evander kane this off season and then a man who's a judge who's been on vacation for two months come back and say no this this player evander kane is the property of the san jose sharks and now there must be compensation going back to that team or whatever deal they want to do and retroactively we get some weird deal with two gms negotiating evander kane's rights it's to me this is crazy they're gonna throw that they have to throw that out the window they can't enforce that how is this still not so who even has the leverage there let's let's let's pick a team at random the dallas stars sure so let's say he signs a deal with the dallas stars okay is like does san jose hold the leverage because well actually he's

technically ours so you owe us whatever we want or well how does that work so what i've heard uh is that they would if it if it says the shark or the stars they would work out a deal with the sharks beforehand before signing that contract so depending on whatever the arbitrator decides there's already something in place weird so it would be like okay arbitrator says this hit option one arbitrator says this hit option two and then that's what's going to happen in terms of the signing and the compensation going back to the san jose stock has gone up you got to imagine the sharks are going to first of all financially the sharks are going to get smashed it's going to be bad for them money wise but in terms of uh an asset you were talking about the best goal scorer

of these past playoffs so it could be like hey arbitrator says uh kane should have been on the sharks all along the contract is honored here's the second round pick to the sharks whoever signed you know something like that i don't know i mean if edmonton gets him which they they apparently according to insider recently insider tim peel uh he said they offered him a four-year nine million per uh actually yeah that's what he tweeted out he said that he has sources telling him i didn't did anybody corroborate nobody has corroborated that okay but to get an idea of how much money that is uh frege and merrick on their post-draft show speculated four times nine for evgeny malkin that that's we'll get there aren't we he's on my list okay yeah vander kane quite simply is

the most complicated and it will be a precedent setting move because no player's ever been in this position you're right jesse and like we could all just he could sign and then the arbitrator comes back and says no san jose had every right to void the contract he was an idiot you know that could also be the case okay so we'll see i went completely uh second and third line guy on this and that's because the big names are getting the the you know most of the oxygen obviously we just talked about cadro we talked to talked about chuck fletcher and d'angelo we talked about we've talked about all those things what about vinny tracek that's a good one vinny tracek who can play center who is strong defensively is a pain in the ass to play against 20 goals a year

50 points a year i feel like that's a daryl sutter type player but i want to know i want to know where this guy ends up because i think any team that gets him instantly gets better and i think he makes you much better in the playoffs um he's a half a point of game guy for sure but i think Vinny Trocek to me, what's that? You need those. You do need those. He's 29, a center, normal size 5'10", 183 pounds. Average. Small side of average.

I wonder if the Leafs are kind of eyeing him, too. Because if you are moving Tavares to the wing, he's got to be somewhat of a cost-effective option. Five million bucks? You think for a guy like that? Trocek centering Tavares and Nylander. LMAO. Be at least two-thirds strong defensively. It'd be pretty fun.

It'd be pretty fun. Just a thought. Okay, so next one steve another slash but this one also makes sense don't laugh at me uh joe thornton slash uh zidane ochara oh and not for where they're gonna sign but for where they potentially won't which is anywhere um two guys drafted in the 90s still going uh in their 40s one has his cup and could probably just retire and ride off into the sunset and you know be the most appreciated player in Slovakian hockey history. We saw you had that message for Juraj Slavkovski. Yeah. Zdeno Csara might

finally be retiring. Super cool. And Joe Thornton, though, does he still want one last crack at winning the Cup and is anyone willing to give it to him? Probably not. Yeah. We've thought that for several years now.

Jesse, you're picked. Evgeny Malkin. The word out of Pittsburgh right now is that the negotiations are getting contentious and bleak. we heard that they were getting better and they are not happy with each other because malkin wants a bunch of years and a bunch of monies and brian burke's sitting there saying no he deserves it so but at 35 years old i think it'll be 36 by the time the season starts if i'm not mistaken i might have his birthday wrong but i think you're right because he was drafted the year before crosby

there you go so 36 by the time uh the season gets underway and he wants four years times nine million they just gave a bunch of money to chris letang penguins don't want to do this at all at the number that malkin wants and we could see one of the longest marriages in hockey that's still going break up this off season i think that's fascinating also some other team might come in and give them all of that cash and might regret it immensely but we'll see what if i honestly i think it might come down to sid going gino come on you think so do you think he has that kind of pull with him if if sid told me to do something i'd do it okay all right gino um come on in keeping with my theme and again i've got both eyes on the carolina hurricanes this off

season because john don waddell is ruthless you saw the kind of thievery that he pulled uh with tony d'angelo and everybody's like well the picks are two years in advance like who cares they got 101st pick and then he got a third next year in a second no no don waddell is using that as trade capital guys that's not those those picks if those picks ever get picked by carolina i'd be shocked he is using that at the trade deadline to pick up somebody else is he going to resign another great player on his team nino nita rider you don't need a rider has played 11 seasons and he's 29 uh he is most fun name to say absolutely el nino and he just scored a goal below his career height so 24 goals 20 says 44 points he is good for half a point a game again but i feel like this is the

kind of player that they really come through for you in the playoffs you want them to be on your team in the playoffs if you have a guy like him on your third line you got a problem you probably have a stanley cup roster and i feel like do the leafs not have issues on the wing in certain ways i know it's the left wing but well well oh yeah let's do that everyone's going to leave he's a right winger but couldn't you could you not yeah well we absolutely have to do that no it's people would think less of us if we didn't if you remember blake coleman's signing was big last year but it did kind of fly under the radar a little bit i feel like you got to watch watch these guys because they make a big big big splash uh when it matters i know you guys are kind of laughing at me

because i'm not picking any of the big names no i'm not i'm not laughing at you you're sort of laughing i'm telling you all right next you pick uh i have a question jesse there was a hockey pdb page on your screen is that your guy nazim qadri well i was gonna keep it it's not my guy oh it's not your guy well in that case i'll go with nazim qadri i said it because it wasn't my guy well i didn't want to shaft you yeah okay so yeah you're welcome but i'm doing it anyway so nazim qadri uh i mean best center available and this reminds me of the summer of brad richards this dude yeah no no and i'm not saying that as an insult to cadre although that ended up not being a very good uh signing i mean rangers got pretty far with him i want to say he was part of

that team that went to the final uh in 2014 but he was cadre's gonna get a ton of money it doesn't like there's no consensus for where he's gonna go at all we've heard philly we've heard the islanders we've heard he's gonna go back to the avalanche and the reason he's so important isn't just that um do you remember who the leafs got to play center for 4.5 million for two seasons tim connelly because they didn't get brad richards it was tim connelly so people are gonna get paid based on cadre's number right then he tracked you he could potentially get paid based on cadre's number and all these players in the league have got to be like give me give me naz's number hey naz don't take a discount for the love of god don't take a discount you're spending my

money asshole sign for as much money as possible that's that's how i see it jesse i'm gonna go a little off the board uh i think people are forgetting that this man is a free agent and that his signing will be very interesting because we're gonna see what team and what role he thinks his career is at pk suban oh that's a fascinating one a ufa and where he signs at what number will be fascinating for the storylines and his career moving forward this is a former norris norris trophy winner who has destroyed his career through exercise his back is gone his skating has diminished greatly and he hasn't adjusted his play really to play in a new style him signing this Off season will be the biggest indicator

Of where his career is headed This is the first time PK is Signing a deal since The famous Montreal here's a bunch of Millions of dollars contract Mark Bergevin and saying sign him now That contract is finally expired Right now

Well on Wednesday it is finally Expired and we get to see the next phase Of his career I am going to be following this Closely because it will be fascinating Could be a humbling experience or Could get super overpaid right I guess we'll see. Speaking of super overpaid, I love the player.

You're going to hate the contract, Andre Pallott. Andre Pallott is going to be a really interesting one. He's coming off one where he's making 5.3 million bucks. You saw him get 11 goals in the playoffs, and there's going to be a lot of teams on the cusp of making it there, getting there, and they're going to look at this guy and go, well, he helped Tampa get good players, great players. Kucherov, Stamko's there.

Can he do it for us? the easily the most maddening signing on wednesday actually it could be today or tomorrow it's going to be when he takes less to stay in tan yeah no kidding but if he doesn't but if he doesn't league man if he doesn't if the oilers swing and miss on kane and jeru that's when i got my eyes on a lot a lot hyman on your wings uh you know what's gonna suck when the oilers win the cup with four former leafs it might be it might be i don't know i like the i like those mid-range deals because we always used to say this five million dollar contracts kill your team look at a team with five a bunch of five million dollar contracts and i will show you a terrible

hockey team look at the flyers they have a ton of five million dollar contracts they're garbage you know what's funny is it can also save your team it just depends who you sign to them right Because remember, $8 million when we originally said that when the podcast started. It was like the top you can make. It was like the top you can make. And now we have a bunch of guys in the double digits or pressing up on the double digits. Now it's signing those double digit guys to like $6.5, $7, $8 million. So what's a $5 million player even now?

Apparently Jack Campbell and Ilya Mikheyev. on the open market like again like that's bananas yeah people forget uh you pay for what free agency is yeah um it's supply and demand it's supply and demand is jack campbell like you're gonna you're gonna see a goalie out there and you're gonna be like what the hell this goalie is better than jack campbell why does jack campbell make more money than this goalie well campbell hit free agency and i bet the other guy didn't or the other guy signed a deal many years ago yep that's this is how it works so who's going to get overpaid almost everyone that's how it works teams who do most of their business in free agency tend to not succeed who's going to beat

is there anybody in there that you're watching because like again i'm a huge fan of palat in the way he plays i think he's going to get overpaid and i mean you know there's there's ufa overpaid and then there's overpaid holy shit by like what was the 2016 or 2017 free agency class where everybody was a swing and a miss disaster disaster that was akposo and philpula and brower and uh friggin islanders had one of them lad i want to say yeah there were a bunch of really bad yeah now i'm not i pose his fault there was some health issues there but everybody else you kind of go holy smokes that was bad there's going to be some of that this year palat's going to be one to watch uh the predators did get it done uh philip forsberg is staying eight years 70 million

dollars maybe had the most underrated season out of anyone in the nhl last year yep like one of the like had he stayed healthy it could have potentially been like a like a freaking mark mcguire sammy sells a thing with uh philip forsberg and austin matthews he would i think he would have cracked 50 how he stayed healthy he was he was bananas great player eight years the rare eight years and then they got him done signs that deal and then goes on a bachelor party what a life that's good well good for him he deserves it absolutely um lost in the action also this weekend adrian kempe re-signs with the kings this is a great deal four years 22 million bucks that that is a five and a half million dollar contract that you want obnoxiously good

deal that's fan flippantastic really good great signing and then georgiev who was traded to the abs has now signed with the abs three years 10 million bucks get that bag kid get that bag kid it's it's gonna be interesting that is a lot of money for a guy who's been good against the leafs and not many other teams like he's been okay but like like i would have taken georgiev because my options are georgiev and uh matt murray i i think but i'm wondering if like the abs fans obviously francis had good numbers yeah not great but good kepper had good numbers not great i i think i think he's got what it takes he's we also starter yeah i don't well i don't i don't think i think platoon because francis is that good francis has also had health issues um but

i think people georgiev's like victim of being behind just jerkin who's fucking unreal right and we look at him and he's anything but superman and we're like oh my god what a bum he's also fairly young like he's playing behind a guy who's younger and better but that doesn't make georgiev bad it just makes just turkey that it makes him not a starter in new york that makes him not the starter in new york he's a starter in colorado and you don't you can be league average in colorado and win a stanley cup convincingly it's also such good value 3.4 for three years for three years that's great value three years they'll be fine yeah um i haven't heard a lot of this and i also have justice and and coming up through the system i think he's

gonna be good uh i i i haven't heard a lot from what colorado is going to do they have the money 21 million bucks but they got to resign a lot of people natushkin uh natushkin apparently uh they're making headway on that as of right now they're they're close he's gonna screw our show yeah yeah totally which is fine i don't do you care about no we've had 10 years of being out of date do you care no um but i i look at this the defense looks good the forwards look good but have you heard a whole lot on what colorado is going to do to replace cadre i have not no i mean is there a chance that he resides my assumption is the they they're gonna have to rely on some young guys to pull more weight than

they're maybe ready for. Namely, Alex Newhook. But I mean... And Cogliano's sticking around. The good thing about being the Stanley Cup champions is it's not hard to convince people to sign with you. I think, regardless, they'll be able to get

someone good. Newhook's that guy. You think so? Newhook's stepping in. That's a second-line center, eventually. When I watched him play in the playoffs, I was like, this guy's good, and this guy needs someone to pass to like the i just don't really think the third and fourth line suited him you know he did fine in that role but like i i think if you give him some guys to pass to

he'll be great move them up um also from the colorado avalanche no one's mentioned it yet which tells me they're working on something uh nathan mckinnon extension is now available anytime so he makes 6.3 million dollars he's still only 26 years old so you know that's going to be an eight-year contract he's is it double 12 don't you think i mean oh man and he's ufa too isn't he he's ufa after this season yeah 27 i mean he could get more than matthews sure i don't think does though i think i think you could argue if you're his agent for sure you could say uh he's worth more than matthews if i'm a cup if i'm mckinnon just for the stories and lulls i signed for 11.633 mcdavid's what i still make less than matthews 12 what 12 5 mcdavid 12 5 12 5 um

mckinnon comes in at 11 something i think it's it's got to be right right where you nailed it right where you said might be it like right underneath matthews just a joke 11.633 i think i think it's 11 like 11 right i think that's that's fair value and and so then so that's the thing like if you're the abs i mean you got to consider that for next season he's got landis gog obviously locked up too i don't know oh so wait let me let me let me try something here Still, the Avs will have Landis Gogg, Rantanen, and McKinnon locked up. Each of them, only two of them, or one of them will make more than $10 million. It just drives me crazy.

God. $11.625 isn't even $93 million over eight years. Because I think these guys, when they get to the eight-year territory, they're like, here's the amount of money I want. so like a hundred thousand or sorry uh a hundred million that's what mcdavid signed for isn't it yeah that's how we got to 12.5 so should the negotiation start there or start above it listen we want a hundred million dollars or what if it's 95 95 95 95 divide by eight 95 yeah i know i should do that 11.875 which would make the second highest paid player in

the league sounds about right you can't overpay nathan mckinnon that's the thing no when you get to the high ends you can't really overpay you can't overpay matthews can't overpay yeah you're getting a deal no matter what because because of how the salary cap works these guys are going to pay less than the value because you can only pay them so much percentage so no matter what he wants you're getting a deal 90 mckinnon's matthews mcdavid 90 isn't even 11.25 so it's it's probably going to be either uh that 90 or 95 what if he says fuck it i want 100 and that's 12.5 all right cool we'll figure it out we got kale mccall we got mckinnon we got landon we got random we're fine everyone else doesn't matter we also won a stanley cup already yeah we're good here

you go we'll figure it out yeah we'll figure it out like the scary thing about colorado is they still have kids coming yeah the the one of the things that we're going to work on once free agency passes is trade trees and one of the ideas that we're floating around is updating some of the trade trees that we've done we have already done the matushane trade and holy shit there's a lot keeps going oh my god yeah it keeps going and that that trades fingerprints are all over the stanley cup i love that how what's the furthest you've started back and then it keeps going uh people keep asking us to do really long ones and i'm like oh i don't want to though um probably either the lindros trade tree no it'd be the gretzky one because the gretzky one was summer

1988 and it's still going 1988 okay there was another one i want to see you do something like from the 40s and then get to 2022 there was another one adam wouldn't that be fun no that's just you doing it to do it yeah because do it to do it no but most of the people watching aren't like oh yeah friggin sprog cleghorn i knew like i know that guy what about a 100 year trade tree oh yeah in 1922 and get to 2022 what was the first trade first real trade i don't know because they used to buy and sell players right yeah i don't i don't know i don't think you should do all the branches your goal should just be to get from point a to point b like you can skip all the side branches you know as long as you find the one avenue that gets you a hundred years i think

here let me let me hundred year trade tree write it down producer drew write it down i think the oldest one might be the kent nelson giving out free ideas trade tree because no oh is this it all right let me look how trading kent nelson in 1985 led to the flames acquiring two hockey hall of famers because uh the kent nelson trade directly leads to jerome mcginley becoming the captain of the calgary flames nice uh jt miller is still on the market by the way last thing before we get to the press conference uh there was a deal apparently in place uh with the islanders uh they were not the canucks were not allowing teams to talk extension with him they weren't allowing anybody to talk extension with him and that may change going forward because that seems

like a bit of a seems like a bit of a thing it's i guess they didn't want to affect the his value if he wouldn't resign but also it looks like the uh islander said no to jt miller because the deal got leaked and lou got mad yeah we've heard that but like to me it's six and half a dozen like either uh you let him talk to a team and he says he's not going to resign and the team is like oh okay well then we know we're only getting him as like a one-year guy or you don't let the team talk to them and they're forced to assume he's only going to be a one-year guy yeah so just let him let's just let them talk yeah one scenario you won't make any progress in another scenario you might go with the might i don't know i don't get it i don't get it either but that's what

they want to do um let's get the press conference the steve dangle press conference just before we get to jesse asking questions sorry jess uh a couple of things i did want to say uh we will be recording the show monday and then thursday friday this week because obviously Thursday's the day after free agency and then Friday's The day after the day after free agency and that's When we expect all the signings to happen so we Want to be able to break things down properly also Steve Is working some streams on Sportsnet on Wednesday

Which is awesome yeah Drew tweeted About that during the show and I think the other thing should we Do we want to talk about the event right now Let me get to the press conference Would you guys like to start Work our way backwards Or do you want to start Wednesday and work

Our way to Friday night that probably makes the most sense yeah sure all right so so wednesday we we touched down in in montreal adam drives uh it's steve and i fly and steve you had your three days there were jam-packed oh you went from shooting stuff to sports net to shooting stuff with us to going out with writers you know that was kind of your your three-day thing there so so you land you shoot content basically it's if i could choose to go to only one nhl event every year draft 100 the draft uh followed probably by stanley cup final and maybe all-star game but the draft is the it it's the best energy the last day of school no tension um you know except for the

insiders who are pulling out their hair um but it's so fun so we're not even on the plane yet um and we see pete deborah uh because he was getting on our plane and uh he was wearing a vegas golden knights mask which i thought was very funny because i guess he doesn't have a stars one yet that's oh my god what steve says he's wearing a vegas golden knights mask i want you to know that he's not walking on the on the plane with robin lennar's goalie mask no he's he means it's on his yeah you're not allowed uh you still have to fly with masks on yeah yeah and i've yeah uh in canada i don't know if oh yeah it's not in the states because they had that weird cultish yeah when you go to the airport uh as soon as you walk in the door masks are still required in the airport

and on the planes yeah yeah so uh there was that and then uh our flight got in very canadian style delayed so we went to a restaurant and we're sitting next to a family that is very obviously going to the draft because their kid's getting drafted um jesse's face what what i don't know there's just something about jesse it's a good story i know what's gonna happen it is a good story so the they i wasn't gonna bother them yeah one of them initiated conversation with me i can't remember how but i was like so what are you guys going to the draft for and the kid who looked like a hockey player very obviously you know like 17 or 18 is like oh uh i'm gonna get picked i hope and i go uh oh what's your name who are you he goes zam plant was his name z-a-m

plant like jack plant but he said plant um i go where do you think you're gonna go He goes, I think third to fifth round. And I think he ended up going fifth round to the Pittsburgh Penguins. And I'm trying to pull it up here. So he was absolutely right. Pittsburgh Penguins, fifth round, 150 overall. Yep. Well done.

So I looked up his stats after they were done because they started their meal before Drew and I did. And I was like, oh, he was second on his high school team in scoring. I wonder who was first. And it was his brother who initiated conversation with us and I had no idea. and i didn't even think of him because his brother was like obviously uh younger but uh max plants led that team in scoring and he's 16 his draft years two years from now and he's really small he's he's i think five eight a buck 20 but give give him a couple years to grow and holy shit so you got to think like if his brother went fifth round and his little brother was the actual star

of the team where's this kid good where's max gonna go in the draft in a couple years what piqued my interest immediately is he played for a Minnesota high school team, but he also played for, gasp, the Chicago Steel! That's Dubas' new Greyhounds. Why? What's the

connection? Their new I think it's Ryan Hardy with the Marlies is from the Chicago Steel, and also Marlies head coach Greg Moore is from the Chicago Steel. The Leafs have just decided, we love we do two things here in toronto we draft sue greyhounds and chicago steel and they did do that

they drafted with their second round pick a chicago steel they drafted a member of the chicago steel and there were rumors of them getting other ones yeah too like they love love that program so i saw this and then i saw him again at a restaurant a couple days later and i was like you know what this just feels like one of those things that are meant to be i think the leafs are gonna get him and then he went to the penguins but whatever um so that's that's wednesday i'm not even on the plane yet not even in montreal yet yeah so we we land in montreal we go to the hotel where i didn't stay i stayed with you guys but uh you know hung out with drew for a little while because i arrived first and it's just packed full of vaguely fit men in their 40s 50s and 60s wearing golf shirts

wearing golf shirts with tiny little hockey logos yeah golf shirts tucked in pants and also uh younger taller versions of all of them who were very obviously prospects right and i saw david urachek let's fast forward a little to a couple hours later when adam and i arrived to our hotel and then steve arrived shortly after oh hold on hold on as as uh i head down to go pick up some uber food uber eats food that i ordered something happens with steve so on my way to the what should we call it sonder yeah yeah yeah sonder or sonde or the place we stayed place we stayed um i'm looking down on my phone to order an uber then a cab pulls up and he looks at me and he goes and i go all right and so i get in the cab drives me to the place thank you very much

uh give him tip whatever go to the elevator come out of the elevator i see you because you're on your way down to give you a hug get to the room see adam give him a hug he's like and this is your room i go great and i put my knapsack down and i go fuck my luggage and he didn't he didn't do it quite like that because he smacked his own forehead yeah like i've never seen a person like you know people do it like oh my god i can't believe it it was like it was right out of a comedy bit no he could custom say yeah no and adam's like oh call the guy i go it was a cab he goes what was the company i go i don't know i said what color was the cab and i go white so adam calls andrew berkshire of game over fame because he's local to montreal and you ask him

i'm like what the hell are white cats white cat he's like i don't know the only thing i had go on poor berkshire who's like fucking steve again yeah because when i came to uh montreal i think in 2016 i forgot my laptop on the plane oh yeah and they luckily found it before it took off and i had to go back to the airport to get it and berkshire drove me um so i had my receipt there's no number on it but i'm like okay this is a place to start this is a place to start and i'm like again i got my head in my phone and i'm like frantically i'm going back down the stairs and hoping for the off miracle chance that the guy's still outside the hotel outside yeah and i walk by the concierge who's talking to someone

and I look out of the corner of my eye and go, oh my god, it's the driver. He was so amazing that he goes to the concierge, he's like, hey, some idiot just forgot his luggage in my cab. Can we go through the security footage and we'll try to figure out who it is. What room he's in.

Just follow the cameras to where he's staying. So, big shout out to that guy. Instead of losing all of your luggage, you run back in and you see the cab driver at the security desk. hugs all around big thanks for that guy um so then we hit the town yeah so then wednesday night we go whatever thursday morning thursday morning is fun because uh whenever cj and julian get to

record in person i always say that recording shows over zoom like you can get to 98 of what it's like in person but there's always that extra like two percent of real life that you're missing when you record over zoom and this is only the third time in the cj show history that they've recorded in person and we got it recorded in our uh in the place we were staying it was a great episode cj kept dropping bombs fantastic and then the magical moment happens towards the end of the show when his phone so his phone's sitting on the desk live too if you're watching if you watch the show on youtube if you're not a if you're not an audio listener if you're a watcher you'll see cj's phone sit on the desk and it's constantly you just see the light go off yeah and then towards

the end of the episode it starts flashing some more and then he gets he fully gets a phone call at the end because he has to do a radio hit and some other things are coming in and he gets up and he leaves the show as julian's trying to rap he has to he has to do it he's an important person he has a phone call to take and he has no choice but to get up in the middle of the recording and be like yeah i'm ready to go and blah blah blah let's talk trades you know so he gets up and it's a fascinating moment it's the best it's my favorite episode uh they've ever recorded yeah it's and uh i think everybody who watched it has really enjoyed it so that happened thursday morning almost everything they talked about came true yeah they nailed a lot of the deals he was

the first one i heard mentioned kirby doc and i was like what the yeah why kirby doc yeah and he said that the brinkett thing was like imminent and happening you know that was another shocking one there were there were texts that he was getting while we were there and we're like really yeah like things that never made the air no uh and then uh so that happens and that's also draft day so we had dueling draft streams uh thanks dicks we can fast forward to that afternoon but we sent our sdpn staff to the draft to go watch in person uh and then adam and i were the only members of sdpn that weren't actually at the draft that's right we stuck around in the apartment to do a live stream on our twitch channel twitch.tv slash sdpn live is where we went and we did numbers that

we don't usually do and thank you everybody who watched it was unbelievable um and then before we get to your stream with colby which you have some fun stories from actually you told a couple of them on friday yeah you mentioned that so and we talked about our people yeah you did you talked about a little on friday but thank you everybody who who watched that um yeah you told the latang story so we don't even need to tell that oh yeah yeah so we did that and then friday we record early in the morning because that was supposed to be our sleep-in day and then we record like at 11 and then we head to our sdp at lunch but what happened with you i fucked us over because we were supposed to sleep in i was like yeah i was like oh i go oh wait a sec well and even

thursday i'm like okay i'm gonna go back to sleep i know everyone's getting together at the bar i'm going back to say oh marco casper walked into our bar remember the top 10 pick of the red wings and everyone just got up and applauded he got a round of applause for existing he was wearing the jersey good for him the jersey as he should that's awesome absolutely should so he got a round of applause and i'm like okay i'm not gonna go to the bar and then i go the draft is once a year go to the bar and so like for friday i'm just you know i did not go to the bar that night because it was like i will go to the bar the next day the only smart one and it hurt it hurt a lot um but yeah no drew's like well i need you for the draft because we're shooting a video you idiot and i

said cool that's great good i'm so glad about this yeah so we yeah we recorded and then uh we went around the draft and that video is not up yet i can't wait to see it though because we were asking uh it's basically i just go around and ask people questions and like we bumped into phil pritchard i was like man the avalanche are really beating the shit out of the cup huh and stuff like that and uh so trying to remember who else we talked to you have to wait for the video that that video was shot right after we recorded if you listen to friday's podcast that happened right after you had to run out that's why we recorded so early and then we get to we have a little staff lunch and dinner it was it was awesome it was difficult oh my god because that whole day the

rogers is outage that happened so drew and i tried to find you guys and we went up to where we thought the restaurant is and we didn't see you and we're like oh we'll call them oh shit we can't call them so we're like trying to find a phone we used it like the hotel land you don't know what he's talking about there's a huge rogers outage in canada and rogers one of our two carriers because we have two that's a problem yeah our american listeners probably would know i didn't realize at least they have three yeah they got a couple more yeah so for a lot more people um so you guys and then afterward drew's like all right you guys go hang out i got to do something else i'll see you later oh fuck steve can you order me because i was still on wi-fi he's like can you order me

an uber because like i can't do it do we want to share the story of the uber driver we saw outside of the restaurant try and drive into pedestrian traffic yeah you want to do it we can all do this together but i think you need to understand that montreal montreal beautiful uh is one of the most beautiful cities you'll you'll ever go to an old town montreal where we were eating we overlooked the circuit de javelin and the river and every the island everything it's amazing but uh montreal drivers are a different breed and why by different breed i mean uh they don't care they don't care and they don't follow rules and so we were walking down a pedestrian only street and a guy driving on the pedestrian only street in a honda crv uh looks at us and we get out of his way and

and he go and he waited we were looking at the sign yeah that said pedestrian beside the sign and we're like look at this fucking guy there's a sign right here and he's like he waits to us he's like thanks we're getting out of the way so then so then he drives further down the street and of course the crowds are sort of parting out of the way skeptically like they don't want to get hit by a car yeah but they're like also should you be here because he wasn't going fast no just slow just kind of make it his way and at the end of the street you get back onto a street where you could drive right it's a cobblestone street it goes right back into pavement and the security guards catch him right as he's about to make you couldn't drive on that street no you could drive

on that street either because we walked down there and it was all still pedestrian so security stopped him and they're like you have to go back yeah and what we were thinking is well if that's a street you're actually allowed to drive on it's actually far more dangerous to ask to ask him to back through the pedestrian only street that does make sense but so he had to back this thing up a hill up a hill too you're right and we we we had we ate at a pretty ritzy restaurant and you could tell the restaurant was a part of a condo and hotel complex so when you have condos and hotels you know it's high end you know it's fancy baby because those people that own those condos do you know they have access to the cleaning services and people come in every day and can make your

bed if you pay for it did not know only you would know that pretty crazy pretty flipping crazy how is it related to napoleon that doesn't well it all starts back in 18 no i mean anyway long story short uh he backs right into a really nice car yeah and then tried to drive away in the same security we're like no we're all here watching you do this we know you just hit a car so all he had to do guys to avoid this pedestrian thing was take a right do anything else just take he had there was a right that he could have taken that was the road and he just and it worst 15 minutes i think of his life traffic was really bad but it's montreal traffic's always bad so we uh we do that we have our dinner and then we go back and then we have the uh main event of the whole

week we have sdpn fan appreciation night the pics nah the what the pics oh no no the draft wasn't no everybody was in montreal for our event screw the draft absolutely um so we go to la cagey in the bell center uh we have our event in the bottom and like what a fantastic evening yeah all the people that came out um we we went over our capacity for sure because people just kept showing up and being like yeah can i join and they were just like yes come down so um it was a great time i have some pictures here we have three players join us too we had you're a check hamar uh you're a check who's with the blue jackets hamara who's with the senators and who's the habs guy yeah yen uh mishar uh my sick i think no mishak yeah it's

Meshack. Oh, it was Jan Meshack. Oh, so he had already been drafted. He wasn't drafted that weekend. Yeah, no, he was with the Bulldogs in the M-Cup final. He scored the OT winner in the semis. Oh, I didn't realize that was Jan Meshack. It was a lot going on. What were your

favorite parts of the evening, the fan appreciation event? Oh, man. I think I had to learn. I didn't realize how out of practice I was with socializing. Meeting people again, man. Yeah, it was cool. like it's it was cool first off we heard we had people up from i think some people one one guy was up from denver another guy was up from they were up from kentucky what about little luca

little luca the baby there was one yeah there was one baby there the parents brought him on a front pack and he was just jamming yeah he was a good kid and there was just i think i actually think one of the best moments was cj julian and nick andrade their producer meeting for the first time the three of them have never been in a room at the same time i don't think cj and nick had ever met i don't think julian and nick had ever met obviously julian and chris had known each other but yeah they were the that was the first time that they'd ever been in the same room so seeing them together was cool uh even like when so adam did these big introductions for each uh stbn member and that was so much fun and the reception that alan walsh got was awesome it was so good yeah

it was thunder and then julian mckenzie fucking walks in late because he's a rock star he's like and uh and he walks down the stairs and somebody notices and they're like that's julian and everybody turned around they're like oh yeah so it was great it was really really cool just thank you everybody who came out for that there's there's a photo of is that on the screen right now which one you want to put this one up yeah that one okay there's a photo of jesse standing on the floor proposing to steve yeah and me standing on a platform and us looking at each other eye to eye do you know what this moment is i don't this is the moment somebody handed me your book and was like can you sign steve's book and then also get steve to sign it and then we stood

there for like five minutes trying to find the page that i mentioned in because i like signing that page of my first mention in your book uncle about it because you're like oh but i know what page i'm on it's this one oh nope it's on this one oh nope it's on it's the oldest you've ever bean it's too it's too 97 or 287 i might be 287 you thought it was 97 yeah so i kept getting it wrong it was i was very uncle about and i might be two pages ahead of you uh jesse because maybe maybe three then because the zoo stories are like the first 250 pages you get one in way in early when we have our own espn book you'll be glad that i didn't blow it all on my stupid little book but your book is like 3 10 long and i don't get it until 2 8 yeah you don't even you barely

mentioned the podcast and it's too long you're right i should have just cut you but it was it was awesome jerry i also did i did a topic on virgin radio on the wednesday before we went there i'm like i am staying in a hotel room with two men but i'm in my 30s how is this gonna work because in your 20s you do that because you can't afford it work perfectly listen i can perfect i can afford perfectly fine i can find a for a hotel room and to be honest with you um it worked out really good jesse and steve are very clean roommates the only the only like hung up towels uh put food away wiped like everything i have to say i was really impressed you guys are easy to travel with we don't have one complaint jesse should i have a complaint

you and me should have a complaint about our third should we have a complaint i won't say it i won't say it i won't say it i won't say it these are gonna get bad okay every time i enter the bathroom every single time it's like literally go in door creek close and then don't blame me this is because you two go back to a time when adam said he would like pick you up yeah and you'd be shitting no the pickup time the pickup time would be this the pickup time would be this it'd be 10 a.m we'd all pull up in in our friend derek's ford winstar green green with a tan interior i'll never forget it oh and you remember that thing yeah there'd be like six

of us in there and we'd be waiting on steve and steve steve would come out to the car bring his bag he'd be like guys i gotta i gotta go to the bathroom and then it'd be 20 minutes so the go time would be 10 but real go time is 10 20 but also you know what you guys never appreciated what a good friend i am because okay there was one time i can't remember if you were in this car ride all right derrick came from guelph in a snowstorm to pick me up right because he would he would do right but they blew a tire on the way there first of all i waited up until about 2 30 in the morning no one contacted me and told me there was an accident or a problem they did not have room for the the so they had the the donut on yeah they did not have room for the tire that

they took off in the trunk so they're like so we don't know what to do about this tire and so i volunteered myself sitting in the middle of the back seat to have it on my lap the entire way to guelph because i'm like well i know how long it takes to go to guelph it shouldn't be too bad forgetting that we were driving on a donut and could only go a max of 70 kilometers an hour highways a hundred people losing their fucking minds behind us you should have gone on the highway with a donut and we didn't even get oh we didn't even get on to the highway and i got this a million pound tire on my lap i'm like this is a fucking mistake but no i take too long in the bathroom sometimes so like i'd be like oh yeah i gotta i gotta go like right before we

head out, and you're like, oh, here we go! Every time. Look at Steve in his abnormal habit of digging a piss before he leaves the hoose. For the three days we were there, for the three days we were there, Adam yelled at Steve for his leisure poops.

And you know what he did there? Friggin' King Midas story here. Because this guy had his own bathroom! Yes, he did. He had his own bathroom! Had his own bathroom! Isn't that quite

peculiar who picked the room hold on i i walked in i'm like oh it's a one bathroom apartment so i took the room with the best view but jesse got that got there second and he took the room with a similar view but it had a bathroom and i didn't know the room you didn't pick i know i also didn't know it had a bathroom you picked the room i got a bathroom fucked up you fucked up i did i didn't know what a bathroom to like the halfway through the second day i was like what there's a bathroom He conveniently left that out. I realized it after you gave me the room. Because it was like a sliding door, right?

Yeah, a sliding door. I had a walk-in closet in the bathroom. It was awesome. I bombed that thing the second you left. Yeah, you fucking used it, too. Nobody said you couldn't use it. It was awesome. So anyway.

We had a good time. But other than that, honestly, like, good roommates. I've got to say, really good roommates. Except for leisure poops over here. Also, okay. Yeah, he definitely TikTok and poop. you know what are you gonna hear the sounds coming from the bathroom five seconds later another sound five seconds later another sound and you're like oh it's

been 30 minutes and we haven't seen steve the dude who cuts the oranges and squeezes the juice out of him yeah what's up with that guy i don't know but i really enjoy those videos what about the guy that was going viral this weekend for chopping wood and he said he says good girl and then every everybody who reacts to it's like yeah that one that one's super viral pretty weird it is super weird it's a thirsty talk is thirsty there's lots of uh lots of corners of tiktok and all of them are bad anyway it's fan appreciation yeah fan appreciate oh yeah so that was very fun i'm sure they appreciated that fucking story guys um yeah just said hello to everyone got to hear their story everyone out of town it's just fucking great i love the draft if you have an

opportunity and like it was so the one discouraging thing was cj on his show talking about the nhl like would consider going to digital like all digital on purpose for the draft are you out of your mind okay so it's a hybrid here's what i could see if you do it like the nba does it which is the teams aren't there uh all the players are backstage they make them look like rock stars for the first round yes and they bring them out and then david stern gives them a jersey and then that's it and they take their picture and they're off stage and it's over in a couple hours i can totally see that i could totally totally see that but if you're talking all digital it's like wow we're gonna have a zoom call it would be very nhl and very stupid to do i think you got to give the

kids like the players an experience uh and i think the fans want something to cheer for that that montreal crowd here's the thing man when we saw in the lower bowl was a bunch of empty seats on tv right what actually happens is that all those lower bowl seats are for families families yeah And a lot of them get up and move and do all this stuff while it's happening. The fans in the building, we sent our sales guy, Rob, we sent Andrew, Jamie was there, Robert was there, Steve, you were there. You could not hear what Gary Bettman was saying on the microphone in the arena because the Montreal fans, as they always are, were so loud.

And it was even worse because he would say the French part first and then follow up in English. Okay. So everybody who spoke French knew what was coming. And then if you want to hear the English part, the French fans were already cheering and you couldn't hear. So Jamie and Robert,

they were like, we couldn't hear anything. We don't know what happened. First it happened in French and then they were screaming. We talked on Friday about how Gary Bettman should never attempt French ever again, right?

Yeah. Parlez-o! Like, fucking try! Gary, Jesus! It was Xavier Gutierrez, who was the... Bonjur. No, Gary was worse.

Bonjur, Montreal. Gary was so much worse. But I could totally see the hybrid thing where all the teams get to be at home in their war rooms, but then you still have the event for the fans.

You can't take that away. No. Well, and also day two took less than four hours. And I think you send the GMs. You send the GMs because the GMs need it, but you don't need

the whole scouting team. Like you've seen the walk up there and we talked about this in the last episode, but like 12 people. You don't need that. No.

Sorry, you were going to say? And then shake every hand. Yeah. And then you shake every single person. Like they all need to shake Gary's hand. And then it's, oh.

That's too much. We did this, But it was too much And then the final night Everyone Basically went to the same bar All the hockey writers And what was funny is

So Adam's bachelor party was a mess In 2018 or no December 2017 There you go We were joking about would we even Be able to identify Any of the bars we went to If we

Walked in yep and then i we walk into ziggy's i'm like oh this is cool it's neat to be here for the first time and then you know we go through the crowd of people and oh yeah it's nice to be here for the first time and then the table we end up like sort of all standing around i'm like oh my god this is the exact table where our me and our friend ruined each other's arms arm wrestling literally literally he kept so i beat him in arm wrestling but we were so evenly matched that they lasted forever and he kept challenging me to rematches i went to the the gym after uh our after we returned and i couldn't do shit right my arm was fucked and so i call him to ask how

he was doing and he's like hey man what's up i'm just in the walk-in clinic and he was getting his arm looked at and he couldn't play baseball that summer because we ruined each other's bodies because we're stupid and my bachelor party was in december um oh and someone bought i didn't get a chance to tell you guys this someone bought me a shot

at the bar and was like hey man yeah i watch your stuff and it was the i believe the bassist for the band tea party oh wow i was like oh and like i'm this is gonna make you cringe i was such a fucking idiot instead of complimenting tea parties like uh uh

discography of work i was like oh my god you're a legend you guys were on big shiny tunes too big shiny tunes too for those of you who don't know uh it used to be the ultimate collection of music in canada it was one of those like it basically like an mtv compilation right but up here we have much music and they had an annual um compilation called big shiny tunes and everyone our age owned big shiny tunes too and they were on and i i think i might have even uh imitated the guitar riff oh my god is the song heavens coming down yeah but then we i remember the track listing for that no it's not good we uh no it wasn't a very drunk moment it was bad um no but he humored me for

quite some time it was it was great and that and then uh saturday so if you follow us on social media at sdp and sports you'll know this but i don't think we've ever we hadn't talked about on the show leading up to it but we sponsored a golf tournament on saturday that's right and um i flew back early so none of the staff was available because it fell on draft weekend so and we wanted everybody around staff there yeah yeah so we had a bunch of spots for like all the staff and nobody could attend so uh but i flew back early just because we needed somebody there at least and so uh sdpn sponsored the uh get real uh love wins golf tournament and get real as an organization in toronto they support uh lgbtq2s plus initiatives in toronto and uh yeah

so we sponsored the uh driving range actually so so we had a little thing and the driving range was brought to you by sdpn that's cool yeah logos up everywhere yeah the little sign there on the grass and it was at lionhead golf club in brampton it was very swanky it was nice and uh that's something we're hoping to do every single year so um that's our first year doing it i didn't really know what to expect but now i kind of know how did you go uh i actually we so it was uh we had a threesome uh-huh we played best ball well that'll get you ready for golf that's a dad that's a dadder daddy steve coming in hot so we had a threesome beforehand uh no we had a threesome uh for our parent for our group and we played basketball and we actually

played fairly well but then uh one of our uh one of our group members had to leave early so they left around like i don't know hole six into our nine holes and we played decent like i was very happy with our performance um and then they had a huge dinner it was sponsored by fresh if everybody knows the place in toronto uh there was a huge dinner there and the whole event was brought to by summersby and like there's a whole bunch of other sponsors but now i know kind of how it works and everything this is something we're hoping to do every summer is uh sponsor this tournament so look ahead to that forever this was a part of our pride initiatives we said we we'd get involved with sponsoring something uh within the community uh it happened a little after june but still we

we got to make a big contribution beyond one month right it happens all year slam pull your rainbows down fly first that's enough as a company we're we're very proud that we can do something like this and throw monetary uh money just money at the at at these events and at these causes because that's how we know we can help in these ways so yeah it's something we're gonna hope to do every year and hope maybe one day we'll host our own golf tournament but the way right now is to hop onto these ones and and raise some money for great causes so yeah that happened saturday all the uh pictures from that will be coming out throughout the week along with uh pictures from the sdp and fan appreciation night i actually left the memory card here in the studio so i didn't

have access to them but they'll come out throughout the week on our social media so follow that follow us on twitter and instagram see all of the pictures and and stuff from the happened over the last four days it's been a wild four days for us wow yeah that's it okay well we'll wrap it up there we're gonna see you thursday after free agency so after the frenzy happens and they hand out 200 million dollars or whatever it's going to be stream on the sportsnet youtube channel for free agency starting a little before noon myself and grab click like and subscribe the steve dangle podcast powered by sports interaction follow the guys on twitter at steve underscore dangle at adam w y l d e and at jesse blake