The Steve Dangle Podcast - New Year, New Me | January 1, 2018

Episode Date: January 2, 2018

On this episode, how did you spend your New Years (00:00), the Leafs have had an interesting week (15:00), are the Penguins trading Letang? (32:00), are players going to skip the All Star game? (56:00), is the Zac Rinaldo suspension trash? (1:05:00), Switzerland's coach says they have no chance versus Canada (1:17:00), and the press conference; SIM, baby names, and chairs. (1:25:00) Originally aired: January 1, 2018 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/hYBn2v6Vq9A Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Subscribe to us on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/steve-dangle-podcast/id669828195?mt=2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Panago Pizza presents S.D.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde. Wow. Wow. I'm not clapping for a year before I know it. First day of 2018. No, I learned my lesson. I'm not clapping for a year before I know it.

Why? Really? I need to get to know this year before I clap. I think we can welcome the year with open arms. It's a big deal. The year is a big deal. Why? I mean, would you clap for a concert before it started?

Some people do If that artist had earned my trust Wow If I go to a bar and some band gets on stage I go, alright, we'll see Maybe I'll even boo Oh, but you know what? Boo 2018

Until you earn a yay How does 2018 get over? What do you mean? Well, like, wrestlers need to get over Whether they're a heel or a face well I mean it would be it would be

I feel like 2016 and 2017 were build years you know they were the tough years and 2018 they were debilled well yeah

maybe they were striking down maybe 2018 is the pivot point maybe that's the point where as a planet we go hey you know what

this stuff's been too bad and too serious for a long time why don't we change that Jesse what were you saying you know why none of that matters why

because our good friend Neil deGrasse Tyson tweeted something. Oh. The ultimate party pooper. He said that, not that anybody asked, but New Year's Day...

That should be the beginning of every Neil deGrasse Tyson tweet. Sorry, but he said what? Not that anybody asked, but New Year's Day on the Gregorian calendar, which is the one we all use,

is cosmically arbitrary event. Is a cosmically arbitrary event end, carrying no astronomical significance at all. What's the opposite of arousal? Well, I mean, at a certain point, you have to at some point put a mark in the sand

at some point and say this is a year, because then we base all the planets on like, well, like a Venus year is what is it, half of Earth's year or whatever, and then a Pluto year is like a million Earth years. Neil's a smart man. And he followed that up with this.

Oh, nice. Okay. Meanwhile, the dates of the Chinese New Year, Lent, Easter, Passover, Christmas, all reference astronomical events. That's right, because they're all, most of them, based on pagan festivals. So, New Year's means nothing, but Lent, that's when we should all be making resolutions. I know Lent is when me and all my friends gather, and we party like crazy past midnight, And we freak out

We're like 3 2 1 LEN Catholic school It's the best What'd you guys do

For New Years Last night Um Yeah cause it's the first day of the year Last night We're putting in that work In 2018 We are

That's for sure Um Last night I went to the The keg mansion with my fiance You went there And Is it haunted It's

Didn't look haunted But there was probably 200 people there. What's that? Yeah, it's a great place. Have you ever been? No, because that's one of those places that plebs like Jesse and I It's a keg! We go by it and we go, wow, it looks

excellent, but too excellent for us. We shouldn't go. It's a keg. No, that is an Adam Wilde place to be. I understand that it's a keg and I could just walk in the door. It's a stakeout. But I understand

that, no, I'm not I'm not worthy. For anybody that doesn't know, the Keg Steakhouse is based in the street that actually we are on currently right now, which is Jarvis. Jarvis used to be one of the richest streets in Canada, and they have these old gargantuan mansions

that are still here 150, 200 years later, and that mansion was owned by the Massey family. It was also CFRB at one point, which is the first radio station that Rogers Broadcasting ever owned. CFRB, R-B stands for Rogers Batteryless, because they used to make radios, And they had a radio station

Boom Trivia I almost fell asleep Listen I'm just saying Anyway it's beautiful You walk in It's fun We had to wait an hour

And a half for a table So I looked at Caprice I'm like I'm not gonna Fucking do this And she looked at me And she's like You're gonna do this You didn't have rezos?

No And you tried to go Wow Because again Like the huevos To just be like I'm gonna walk into The keg mansion

On your use Because I'm Adam Like did you walk in With cowboy boots And spurs And just It's just a nice John Barbaro's team. Does the King Mansion have, like, those rickety wooden doors, like, in a saloon in every Western movie that you kick?

You have to kick it open. You can't just politely be like, I'm entering the saloon. Oh, it's Victorian, though. It's too nice. You can't do that. Have you ever been to Casa Loma? I have never been inside Casa Loma. Okay.

Never once. I was about to say, I've never been inside Casa Loma, but I feel like you would have done that. No, I would have loved to. I don't know why I've never been over there, but I never have. Apparently, it's a great concert venue. They're turning it into, like, they're doing shows there now and stuff, which is cool. But yeah anyway So I did that

We hung around the bar For about an hour You know picked up One of those bar tables Eventually you know Somebody leaves So we hung out there And then we had steak

And then went home And watched the new Dave Chappelle specials On Netflix Which I didn't even know Were out Which are amazing By the way

So there's new new ones Yeah new new ones And they're so good Is it two or one Two So he's released four In the last six months I think this is it though

Like I think he's going away After this One of them I guess One of them's at the like the comedy seller or comedy bar or whatever in in in los angeles that's the second one and they're both what's interesting about them is they're both very modern like their vote they just happened yeah like he did one in dc he's talking about trump and trump's first year in

office so you know it didn't happen that long ago and then the second one he's talking about harvey weinstein and it happened the day they busted charlie rose from cbs this morning in pbs he also has louis ck in there yeah so that's all new it was like weeks ago and then and yeah and You can ask him about, well, you knew Louis C.K., so what are your thoughts on this? So is this a stand-up special? Yeah, two stand-up sessions. So who asked him? Well, no, like, he talked about Louis.

Oh, you don't know the story. The press asked the story, yeah. I'm so literal. It's like a... Who stood there and asked him? Which audience member stood up and asked the question? Joe from Iowa, Steve. It's like a comedy act full of weights.

Just weighing you down. Man, I listened to that clip from The Best Of. Yeah. That's pretty bad. It's as bad as I remember it. It's not bad. It's funny. It's pretty bad.

No, yeah, Adam. It's bad. You think it's bad? Yeah. It's just a dumb thing that Steve did. It's funny. Still dumb. Time's fast.

Still stupid. You're an idiot. Yeah. Yeah, I feel like we should rename those to like the Steve Dangle podcast. Boy, we had a stupid year. Part one and two. I know. I tried to give a nice intro like, Jesse made a great show for you guys and here we go.

And you haven't even heard it yet. Yeah. Yeah, in your intro. Yeah, I know. I get an intro talking up the episode, and then I'm like, can't wait to hear it. And Adam's like, this is bad. This is going to be bad. This is us at our worst.

I don't need to talk up the episode. I think people know what they're in for. Talk up. I don't need to sell people on what this show is. It's also a best-off. You're either in or you're not. So you've heard everything before. What does he need to talk up?

What if you haven't? I mean, who are these people? Well, I mean, that's possible. It's very, very possible that certain people hadn't heard certain things. But, I mean, dude, if they listen to the show, they have a pretty good understanding of what we're all about. Maybe someone who was on the fence about listening was like, well, I want to see how they are at their very best. Well, then definitely Jesse putting in our first episode ever was a great idea. I couldn't get all the way through that.

I got about five minutes in. I did not realize how long we've been doing the show. We're talking about the upcoming draft And we're talking about Nathan McKinnon We've been doing the show since before Nathan McKinnon was drafted What? The first full season that we did this show I think it was the Colorado Avalanche

We're number one like all year long And then we're balanced in the first round They were best team in the league That was Patrick Watt year where he won the Jack Adams Was it to Patrick Watt? Yeah, it might have been And people were like And he got up and like slammed his hands against the glass

and stuff in his first game. Yeah, against Bruce Boudreaux's Anaheim Ducks. I'm fairly sure that was the one. He won it in 2013-14. That was the year. That was one of the great Corsi battle years because hey, all I do is watch

Avalanche games and watch them win every night. They're third place this year. Next year, I predict first or second. Yep. And they've sucked ever since. Didn't go good. It looked okay the other night. Um, yeah. Yeah. So anyway, what did you guys do New Year's? I went to Curtis, Ontario and

Played a card game called 31 I've never played that. I do that you just you get three cards each and you try to get the closest to 31 as you can it's like blackjack suit wait And if you finish last you have to do a shot or if you get 31 then everyone else has to do a shot You're encouraging drinking. We got drunk. Yes encouraging drinking. We had How irresponsible. Consumed alcohol. And we were intoxicated.

It had an effect on us. There was also a lot of cheese. That's New Year's at 29. Jesse, what did you do? Dude, New Year's at 29 is so different than New Year's at 26, man. Anyway, sorry, Jessica. New Year's at 26, we were in a chalet going, ah! And then I walk in the door last night and I'm like, oh shit, prosciutto!

I'm like, whoa! Hot salami! Caprice and I were walking home last night going I can't wait to get on the couch and watch some

Dave Chappelle and hang with the dog that's our thing Jesse Bindi was like I really just I wish they had gone out

I was in the great Canadian city of Edmonton Alberta to watch the Oilers destroy the Winnipeg Jets it was probably

the worst game I've been to for a home team really yeah they didn't get anything going at any point

in the entire game and the crowds started booing midway through the third one they don't take that shit a little bit of

boo so after that game I read a tweet that the Oilers have the or currently

I mean might not end this way but they currently have the worst it's either power play or penalty killing percentage

of the last 30 years oh wow yeah it's pretty shocking apparently 5 on 5 they're fine yeah and there was

they're fine like in the middle of the patch Two or three power play goals last night? So, yeah. But none for them. I was reading in 30... Oh, so it must have been penalty kill.

In 31 Thoughts, I was reading something along the lines of Connor McDavid is 102nd in the last year or so in terms of shots taken on the power play. And a GM said as soon as he starts taking shots on the power play, we're screwed. But until then, we know how to defend this. And that seems to be the issue. Is that he doesn't shoot on the power play.

He's setting everybody else up. Now, he has, I think in the last... I think in 2007, the calendar year, he had 70 assists, which is insane in today's NHL. Yeah, last year he had 30-70. Yeah. 30 goals, 70 assists. That's crazy.

That's a lot of assists. Wow, so you saw that. Yeah, they might have the nicest arena in all of North America. It's pretty good. I can't wait to see it. For sure. Rogers Place is gorgeous. And they have this giant concourse where you walk in, first of all,

and there's this massive screen. You can't believe that this thing that's like 100 foot wide is standing above you while you're trying to So it's like Maple Leaf Square inside Yeah You need to do that

And the hall is big enough because Yeah You need to squeeze everybody in there Because you can't have them outside It was so cold all weekend

What did you get? Because it's been minus 15 to minus 22 here With And then there's windchill I wish

Which is stupid I wish What was it out there? I wish It was Edmonton cold Windchill Minus 55 Stop it

Shut up I'm not joking No Regular minus 30 Casually it'd go like Minus 25 And that's regular for them At a good time

But then if you add The windchill And like feels like It says minus 50 Different cold though It's different cold It is different Way different

But you can't be outside That's a jump up You can't be outside For more than 5 minutes No 3 minutes You'll die That's insane

Yeah Berkshire has been He visited Alberta His home For the holidays And he was posting All these screenshots He's like

Love the winter in Alberta it was great here I'm interested just wherever you are wherever you're listening to this show have a look at the temperature today where you are

and send it to us and send it to us in Fahrenheit or centigrade whatever it is you look at it and I just want you to know that today in Toronto

we broke a record for this day it hit minus 22.6 today Celsius the cold weather record was set in 1968 the last time and it is 21.1 Celsius

that's shite so it is the coldest it has ever been in recorded history today for this year this day of the year

cool neat happy to have lived it it's really trash I took what I've noticed is it's been so cold

that my dog doesn't want to go outside Iggy and Charlie too and they're not short haired dogs like Bendy oh yeah I was like smart dogs

yeah smart dogs I wouldn't go outside either so anyway hockey sorry we should talk about hockey Edmonton Oilers

Jets games suck too if you're an Oilers fan but Rogers Place great play. Jets sure don't look like they're missing Mark Shifley. And that speaks to the depth I think they have.

They have not had any trouble up front. Mrs. Dangle has Blake Wheeler in her pool. And he has been excellent. He sure has. I've been to a few games that were not Leaf games and the home team got stomped. That's an awkward experience, right? Yeah.

Because everyone around you is, you're not mad, but everyone else around you is Yeah But I make it a point To wherever I go I make sure for the home team Like I was in Vancouver

I don't like the Canucks But that night I'm a Canucks fan You know You're in their city Well even in Montreal we did Yeah Right

We had Leafs jerseys on I loved that game Every time they scored a goal I got up and did the goal That was insane It was so much fun That was insane That's the craziest

Regular season game I've ever seen That's what you want to see Yeah You don't want to see The home team get stomped And then they start booing Yeah

And then they did They did fireworks Inside the arena After the game They're like wait around For the next ten minutes We're going to do fireworks for New Year's. Yeah, so they had a little light display.

So the Leafs and Oilers. Should have just been a fart sound. Three, two, one. Leafs and Oilers had bummer games to end 2017. Yeah. It really, and I saw that, I don't know, Jesse, did you see the Golden Knights Leafs game? I have parts of it.

It was. I saw it getting destroyed, and then I kind of stopped paying attention. It was, yeah, it was getting destroyed, and then not so destroyed. And it's funny because it's, and I guess we should just get into it because, you know, the last week has been very, very interesting. They win against the Coyotes, which they should. They don't win against the Colorado Avalanche, which they should on a very debatable call,

and we can talk about that in overtime. Second half were back-to-back. Yeah. They get a point. And Calvin Pickard was good. And then Freddie looks fragile, and the team, which I think has looked fragile since the end of October, really showed itself in the first period.

There's a fragility to this Leafs team right now, and I don't know if it's growth, if it's maturation process, If it's mental Whatever it is You're pointing to your head I don't know what's going on But yesterday It seemed like

There was There was just like a I mean I know you're missing Nikita Zaitsev They're already thin on defense And then you have to have Martin Marincin in there Who

That was a bad game He had a bad game He was bad It's funny A couple people got on me They were like Well when he was called up You didn't have a problem with it

I'm like no I didn't have a problem with Eighth defenseman Martin Marincin Well, a penalty killer is out, Martin Marincin, and his first game was pretty good. And what are you going to do, defend his game against Vegas? Pretty good or quiet? Quiet is good for Martin Marincin.

I've never, it's funny, like whenever a player is drafted, you almost always hear the same thing. Especially for like Canadian major junior players. Well, they're great with the puck, but they really need to start learning how to play without it. I've never seen a player that is more the opposite. You just don't want him to touch the puck. When he doesn't have the puck, he's great. He's fine. Like, he prevents zone entries.

He's got those. His limbs are so strange. And his stick. And he can just flick at people. And he's disruptive. And then the second the puck gets on his stick, you're like, oh, no, we're about to have a bad day. And then twice in this game we did. At least twice.

And then they pair him with Jake Gardner Ugh But then They realized that pairing wasn't working So they put him with Roman Polak So you know what Travis Yost wrote something recently about You know

I think the Leafs can contend With their current decor Ah Nope I think the issue might be personnel man I think the issue might be personnel It's also It's funny

Like I watched the Leafs against Colorado And was like well It wasn't their worst game Second half of a back-to-back Whatever I watched them against Vegas I'm like

This is a team that is Like defeating itself On purpose Yeah Like I don't even They're better than that Yeah it's Yeah

Part of the reason that And listen I'm not worried about them I feel like it's If they just decide to be They can be one of the top five teams But you have to decide to be I

That's the So when does that decision come? Great question Adam Great question They figured it out last year Am I right in saying this or not? The Leafs are not a Stanley Cup contender yet. They're not a shoe-in Stanley Cup contender yet.

I would not put them in the Tampa Bay Lightning, Nashville... Vegas Golden Knights. Vegas Golden Knights, who are on an unbelievable tear. And you know what? We shouldn't take any credit away from that team. Fast. They're fast. They're fun.

Their fans are insane. It's so great to see. New Year's Eve. And by the way, they're whooping the butts of one of the most storied franchises in the league, which is supposed to be a way better team. How can they not be jacked about that, right? It's awesome for them, but I just feel like with the Leafs, I just, I feel, you seem to be not worried.

I am worried. I think on defense, they are thin, thin, thin, even with Zaitsev in the lineup. And I think the biggest problem that we have right now is that there's no trading in the middle of the season. So they are going to have to stick this out. Oh, I don't know about that. Oh, no, they can figure it out.

There's teams that are unhappy. There's teams that are fidgety The Leafs don't strike me As one of those teams But if they decided To have some talks with Pittsburgh's fidgety They want to make a big move

The Oilers Oilers need Speed Defense too They need defense They need defense They need penalty killing A move could be made there

One move I brought up recently I brought up in my last video That I would like to see The Leafs explore Is Alex Petrovic Of the Panthers Big defender

Right handed shot His fancies Are okay Pretty good Ish Okay would be good For like a depth Right handed

Defender Like he probably Fits the team A little better Than Connor Carrick I feel bad The guy I don't know

One thing with the Leafs Is you're never confused As to where the team Stands on Certain players It's not going to work For Carrick here Yeah I don't think so either

But you know what I don't think he's played Particularly great either Nope I think Connor Carrick has the skills for sure, but that's a guy that I might think, you know, like it was

I was reading an article on Sportsnet today about Riley Sheehan the trade to Pittsburgh and the change of scenery, sometimes that's just what you need, the system doesn't work for you or whatever and there are players that are like that I would hate to see Connor Carrick go because I believe A, that he's a good guy

B, that he's got the skill set and C, if they could just work with him a little longer, he'll get it I feel like he's going to get it, but they're just, man, they are, it's a tough growth thing for him right now. I also, I don't feel like sitting him helps. Like, well, okay, like what the Leafs have been doing something interesting this season with Martin Jerkos. So they basically just didn't have him playing hockey games. Right. For like a couple months or something.

They just had him working on skills. And then they finally let him play some games in the ECHL Was great Called him up to the Marlies Played a couple games And I think they just sent him back down Carrick I don't think is a lack of skills at all Or fitness or any of that

It's decision making That's the Leafs' biggest issue in their own end Is decision making I don't think it's a lack of skill When I see Matt Martin in certain situations And he is having a good season I see a player who wishes he could do

something else you know what I mean I think he's there's a smart player trapped in a fourth liners body and you just see him sometimes

so you're saying he's got a good hockey sense I think he's got good hockey sense or relative to his position good hockey sense yes and I think when his hockey playing

career is done there might be a good coaching career for a guy like Matt might be a good broadcasting career for that guy might be a good broadcasting I think he'd be a fantastic

broadcaster you never know I don't think that's the issue with Carrick I don't think that's the issue with so many Leafs

it's not skill it's just decision making between the ears well and so you know very clearly

you know and I think it was Jeff Fayette that had this gif but the which goal was it was it the fifth one

I forget which one it was but Roman Polek got absolutely torched fifth one fifth one I think But it wasn't just him.

He got torched, but all five Leafs were puck-watching. Because it was a two-on-one against Borgman. Maybe we're not talking about the same goal. It was Polak and Borgman when they were still in the same pairing. Because Borgman still looks good to me. But what I saw was a... He even looked bad on one of those goals. But generally speaking, yes.

Generally speaking, yeah. But you've got Polak, who is neck-and-neck with William Carlson, I believe it was. And William Carlson just flies by him. Well that's just That's a lack of skill Is it a lack of skill Or is it just He's just

Well lack of skill Lack of speed But why have that You gotta have a guy Who's skating He's not skating backwards William Carlson Might be a fast NHL player

Is that what it is That's not the one To have Leo Komarov's minutes That's not the one To have Leo Komarov's minutes No it's not the one That's the goal I'm talking about All five Leafs

Are watching the puck carrier They're watching Shea Theodore Or take it in the zone. Marlo Komarov and Brown. That was the Leafs shutdown line that game. But look at where Polak is standing. No, I know. He's doing absolutely nothing.

But my point is no one looked good in that goal. I don't get it. I don't get it. Like, there's no way. You shouldn't have to tell an NHL team all five of you shouldn't be looking at the same guy. Like, I don't know. I was just watching that goal and it wasn't even a, I don't know. I feel like I can

yell and scream about one player making a bad choice but it's just a knee slapper to me when it's the entire

freaking team which goal is this William Carlson second no that was that's Martin Marincin yeah that's not the one

but that's not the one who are we staring at Jesse the one I'm looking for is an end to end so it starts in the Vegas defensive zone and Polak comes across

and Borgman is skating backwards and you can see them Oh maybe the second goal It might have been the second goal I think it was the second goal I think I got it We should throw this up

In the video And give Jeff some credit here You know this one? Also so people know What the hell we're talking about No I think it might have been The No?

I don't know There were so many goals Anyway So many goals against You know And the thing is Is that somebody did a comparable And I looked at

I believe it was on The Athletic And it was about You know where the Leafs Were last year They had less wins But their Corsi Was two points better And you know

Their goals Goals against in goals for there wasn't a huge differential there's I think there's 16 plus on their goal differential this year they were 10 plus last year you know they're the point is it's not that they're not doing well because they are but we know that they're capable of more and I think that's where my concern is is that when does this and I know that we're 40 games into the season but come on let's put this together and and I think they've got to realize that there's a real I mean I'm sure they know this they're not dumb there's a real there's a real lack there on the on the

back end and I know Travis Dermott was injured but that's a guy I look at and go him and him and Timothy Lilligren are absolutely tearing it up in the AHL right

now they're doing great and Tim Lilligren was I believe named he's at the World Juniors yeah he's at the World Juniors and was

named player of the like player of the round or player of the game or something like that Dolan holy shit yeah Rasmus Dolan looks amazing

holy shit but we'll get to that in a second yeah sorry let's stay off Dolan for a second there are defensemen in the minors that

they could give a shot to and I know I know people are like well you know Timothy Lilligren's 18 But you shelter that guy Put him on the Put him on the third pairing

What's wrong with an 18 Who cares that he's 18 Is he good enough For a couple games That is a good point Like Austin Matthews is 18 19

Is the Leafs Defensive situation So dire That it's worth Taking a look at Dermott or Lilligren But What about Dermott though

He's 20 Why not take a look at him They want to be patient With him The word on him Is they want to Be patient with him and make sure he's a real all-around defender.

Like, for example, a guy who they did a really good job developing, and it's not talked about enough, I don't think, is Connor Brown. Oh, yeah. He comes in and he scored goals and got points, which he could always do. Had him on the power play, he could always do that. He kills penalties, and they developed him that way. It's funny, people yell and scream about, You know, why not use a skilled player on the penalty kill?

Like a Nazem Kadri, which we yelled and screamed about for a while, and the Leafs missed him. But Connor Brown is that guy. Connor Brown's definitely that guy. So I think they want to make Dermott an all-around player. If they can create a 20-ish point defenseman out of him who's usable on the power play and effective on the penalty kill, that's exactly what the Leafs need.

The Leafs, I don't think, need a superstar on the back end. They don't need a Drew Dewey. They need a top four. They need a top four. They need three competent pairings is what they need. They have an offense that maybe five teams in the whole league can really challenge when it's healthy. Three competent defense pairings. They got one. They got one. Let's work on two. It's sometimes two. They got one and a half. You know what I mean? They need one guy.

So is it Is Dermott already That guy I mean They haven't heard At times this season Is it time to move JVR for a defense

No No I think he's One of the bright spots 17 goals But then He traded What his value's highest

Nah I mean You're right But someone Someone was sure He's not gonna recite him You might as well let him go Someone was sure

Because we don't have An answer on JVR By Christmas Which is what I said We would have But Nobody on the Leafs

and very few players in the league can do what JVR does in front he's a monster like there's a reason he has 17 goals and it'll be great

when he's doing that for St. Louis next year when they sat him in for ages yeah and they get knocked out in the second round as long as he's

in Western Conference how doesn't St. Louis have a cup it's insane they're always good and the second you said JVR to St. Louis I'm like probably

yeah him and Taraseko just tearing it up that would be disgusting and they get knocked out by like Minnesota or something Bruce Boudreaux finally has a good playoff run.

Oh, and then they get knocked out in the third round. Of course. By Chicago. In the seventh game, yeah. By Chicago. It has to be Chicago. Yeah, no, I just, I kind of think like, okay, it's frustrating now. Now it's frustrating to watch, and I'm sure it's frustrating for the team.

The, you know, and people keep bringing up Ian Cole's name. No. Fucking Ian Cole? Come on. No. Ian Cole is a 6'7". Is he not? 5'6", 7"?

He was good in last year's playoffs. I mean, Ian Cole, I think, is closer to the answer than Chris Tanev. You know what I mean? I don't think they need to break the bank. I don't think they need to make a giant slash. What I keep seeing on Twitter is people going, well, you'll have to trade Nylander or Marner. No, you fucking won't.

No. And you won't. They won't. What do you need to get Alex Petrovic? What do you need? I don't know. What do you need, Steve? Can't be much.

Can't be much. Like, okay, I look at the Boyle trade last year. Second round, second rounder? Yeah, so, well, Reimer right now is single-handedly forcing the Florida Panthers back into the playoff picture. Yes. Even though they're still looking for goaltending help.

It's weird how Reimer's doing that thing that he does almost every single season. It's weird how he was playing poorly and now he's good. It's like we've never seen him do that before. You non-believers. It'd be a lot better if he could just play good. You know what? It'd be better if everyone could do that.

It'd be better if everyone can do that. Some players do do that. Yeah, look at Carey Price's consistent season that he's having. And Freddie's. I think the comparison of James Reimer and Carey Price is very accurate. They are the exact same player. They are, for sure. Price isn't quite there yet.

But he's almost there. He's approaching. Think he'll grow into it? He might grow into it if he matures. If he earns it. As I put on my Eugene Melnick voice. If he earns it. Yeah

So let's say the Panthers Don't make it I mean I think they're what Nine points out right now He's only played 27 games this year He's a right shot From Edmonton, Alberta Second round pick

My favorite place on earth Nevermind No what has he got What has he got in terms of points Four Assists And that's it That's it

Alright I mean you're not looking for a point You don't need a point getter No Like Morgan Riley already has more points Consistent penalty killer Who's not Roman Polak Like

I don't know Myrtle Had a little stat Oh shut up About the Leafs being Outshot In the month of December It was

420 To 376 Not good They're at an 82 point pace In their last 13 games Okay well Most of which were

Without Austin Matthews Three of which were Without Nazem Kadri, how many without Zaitsev? Those are all pretty major names to the Leafs lineup. I'm not worried, man. There are also three back-to-backs in this month. Three back-to-backs, almost all of them are on the road. Eight of nine games on the road.

I'm not worried. I don't think it's that bad. I'm really not worried. They're on the season, they're on a 98. Sorry, but everybody has points of the season like that. You can look at any team, unless they are, you know, the Tampa Bay Lightning this year, and go, yeah, they had a rough patch between this week and this week. That's not abnormal.

You know what's been really fun watching on hockey Twitter is Pittsburgh Penguins fans who are just, they're catatonic. Like, they're just... We might not make the playoffs in the tops of our division. And they're freaking out. They're freaking out. Yeah. Like, look, I get it that your team is built to win now.

so if you're gonna make a move you might as well do that but you are literally back to back champs you haven't not

been champs since 2015 just be happy you should just wake up every morning and go I'm so happy this is so great I've lived and seen

my team win a cup three times maybe if you're our age it's five five five that's more than the freaking

Steelers have won in the last 25 years three since 2009 You're doing okay, Pittsburgh. You'll be all right. Or, well, I guess three starting in 2001. Okay, question.

Since we brought up Pittsburgh. Sure. Interesting that they have, again, their goal differential just sucks. And at this point, it's not just the ante. It cannot just be the ante. What is it now? 1-11 to 1-28. 1-11 goals, 4-1-28 goals against.

Minus 17. That is not ante-Niemi, man. No. That's more than that. Well, Murray's been out. Sure. Niemi sucked. Yeah.

So that's part of the problem. If Matt Murray's not playing, you've got a different team. But Chris Letang's name has come up. And we heard that Pittsburgh wanted to trade him, and then The Athletic reported that they do not want to trade him. That is not noise, by the way. That is not noise. Well, I saw a few people like, oh, rumors.

That is Nick Kiprios saying that on Hockey Night in Canada. That's a legitimate rumor. Nick Kiprios with Elliott Friedman sitting beside him. if he's not your flavor. That shit's real. I'm interested. Now, how do you move a guy with four years and $7.25 million who has had a stroke, multiple concussion problems, among other injuries?

And listen, that is not to diminish Crystal Tang, the player, because he is phenomenal. It's like our Carey Price discussion from earlier in the season. Like, of course it's Carey Price. and of course he's excellent when he's healthy but

you're asking me to make a huge commitment to a guy who as good as he is has a ton of question marks you also can't trade him now

because he's on the IR right who is this LeTang LeTang he's back in the IR again I mean he won't be there forever

yeah fair but that's what Pittsburgh fans keep saying yeah poor guy

he's always on it he can't be there forever maybe maybe Maybe he could Don't tempt fate with that one Yeah

So Joffrey Lupo's coming back Yeah really Yeah Oh but he's ready Jesse Can I ask another Pittsburgh question? We haven't answered

The first one but sure As long as it adds To the first one We'll get to it Alright Who's on Pittsburgh's Training staff And have they been fired

At some point Over the past few years I mean They're always like this Every single year They're playing with Half of Wilkes-Barre At any given moment

Well, I mean, you can't really prevent strokes. No! And concussions. No! But, it's crazy. You can maybe prevent a knee. I think there's a... Do they just have colic-coliac syndrome?

Well, I blocked a shot. I'm sorry. There is that theory out there that some bodies physically are built different than other bodies, which I fully agree with, by the way. If you ever stood next to an NHLer, I physically know that there would have been no genetic shot. there's no genetic shot in hell you didn't try hard enough I also stunk

there was a but that's the point right I want to say there was an article written years and years ago about Nick Antropov because remember he would frequently get hurt

even as a young player and there was something about growing up in Kazakhstan he probably didn't get the proper nutrition to have strong enough

bones get the hell out wow I this would have been like 15 years ago I have no idea where to find this

but I swear to god that was actually verified too Like, I wonder if that was just a theory that was thrown out there. Because back in the day in newspapers, you used to be able to just do that as sports guys. Because nobody really checked them. Like, now if you do that, like the hot dog story, for instance. Ah, I was about to bring that up.

That would have gone unchecked, I think. Kazakhstan, colon, milk? Question mark? That would have been a great headline. Well, you remember that there was an article written about Jose Bautista. He had this explosion of home runs. Good-ass question. It has to be steroids, right?

That was an article written in a Toronto newspaper. Well, no, it doesn't have to be steroids. He might have just figured it out. Boo, Andy Testerberger. Or does she? Sorry. Anyway, sorry. What was the first question?

Well, it was Letang. Letang, and then you were going to ask a question. Well, you asked a question. How do you make a move mid-season with a guy like that? Do they make a move mid-season? Is that even possible? So, it's possible. The Leafs get Letang.

That's not happening. So if the Leafs got LeTang, first off, Pittsburgh has to take the rest of Kessel's salary. Forever and ever, amen. Because we're still paying, what is it, $1.2 million? $1.2. Yeah, they have to just take that. Nope. Yeah.

Okay. And actually, you can retain, on top of giving us Kessel's thing back, you can retain $1.2 on LeTang. Then we'll talk. We're getting a half-price Chris LeTang. We're saving $2 million. What is half-price Chris LeTang? Not half-price.

I'm just merely asking that 10% of his salary be retained that's not an unreasonable request I don't think so it goes with that money well that's the thing man capping him back it's just an undoing of the Kessil trade

we'll sign Scott Harrington and then we will trade him back you get Nick Spalling back from Europe no you have to take Nick Spalling you're going to bed what I'm not even on the other side Sorry, Nick. He just pulled like a burlap sack over his head.

No, they're coming back to Pittsburgh. He's like skiing in the Alps, and they just kidnap him, bring him back to Pittsburgh. No, I'm going to be in the Alps. No. Can't. Can't. Can't. I mean, that's, like, the thing is that, again, and I say this in, you know, crossing my own point from earlier,

which is, if we are patient, the Toronto Maple Leafs have a pretty good farm system. and you might not have a you might not have Austin Matthews William Nylander Mitch Marner down there right now

but that's because they're good enough to make the big team you've got other guys people are it's funny I read a tweet this summer from somebody going

the Leafs the Leafs farm system is a tire fire they have no superstars and someone tweeted them back and went well yeah they're all playing

for the team yeah so there's still you know they've got a crazy amount of under 22 year olds is Marner still eligible

for the world juniors he might be uh Matthews is, isn't he? I think Matthews is. I think this is Marner's first season of not being eligible. Okay, so they're still kind of prospects. Yeah, they're still prospects.

You know, I think of it, I look at it and I go, okay, all right. So, you know, you're taking a huge gamble with a guy like Letang when you've got three massive free agents coming up, Bozak, JVR, and Komarov. And to me right now, the only guy really worth pursuing in the re-signing thing is JVR. Bozak's pretty ho-hum yeah yeah he hasn't been

particularly bad but not particularly great either and unless you can get him if you got Bozak back at 2 million

I'm fine with that but I don't think you're going to get him back at 2 million and the other thing is that Komarov has not been Komarov so

is it the visor? is it the freaking visor? I don't think it's the visor but anyway he's not this bad yeah or maybe he could just be

having a bad stretch maybe he turns it on Long, bad stretch. I also think eventually players' skills diminish, and he might just hit that point in his life. Boy, pretty sharp. That's usually what happens. Yeah.

I assume he'll have a better stretch in this season, but overall, his average play has probably just dropped to a little tier less. Maybe. So here's my thing with LeTang. When you move a guy like that, it's going to be a big return the other way. It's going to be huge. Is it worth it for a team? First off, I don't think the Leafs will do it.

I don't know if it's worth it for Pittsburgh because I feel like you're not going to get that huge return and you are going to have to retain. What does Pittsburgh need?

And what can they afford? Health. They need health. And by trading away LeTang, I suppose you get that by default. Because to me,

I look at Pittsburgh and go, what they need is the ability to maneuver and what they don't have because of all the salary cap troubles that they're going to have.

You know, Kessel, Malkin, Sidney, Sidney Crosby, LeTang, Carl Hagelin, guys like that.

Carl Hagelin's kind of fallen off a little bit, too. You know, he's not the player he was, maybe. Or maybe he's just exhausted because he's played so much in the Olympics and all the playoff games. They're not as deep. Losing Nick Bonino was bad. It sucks, yeah. Like we said, a lot of teams have two centers.

Very few have three. Right. And they lost their—I mean, Cheyenne's not Bonino. No. So I just wonder with Letang, how does that deal happen? Does it make sense right now? And then what? Well, it's not—and it's not the Leafs.

The one that I think makes A little too much sense To be true There's gotta be something For Chris Letang For Max Pacioretty Oh my god Dude

No way Wait No Hear me out I don't hear this Hear me out Alright, alright Desperate

Mark Berzvan GM of the Montreal Canadians trades cold unpopular American captain. Why is he unpopular? For all-star

Stanley Cup winning francophone defenseman. It's too good. It's too damn perfect. It's right there. So the three of us will be playing center for the Canadians?

Yeah, exactly. I don't know. Like, if you're the Habs, like, I don't know. You suck up front anyway. You suck up front anyway. Double down. Double down. And it's not like Pacioretty's been good.

No, he hasn't. Although this, oh, my God, is he going to just ruin worlds with whatever team he goes to? Well, that's the thing. Oh, Pacioretty on the Penguins. Oh, my God. For the love of God. Stop it. That's a 40-goal score.

Stop it right now. How dare you even think about it patch ready to the Oilers? How dare you oh man for shame? But it's not gonna happen in Montreal If you at very least have defense in front of Carey price You can do anything you set your heart to still have Brendan Gallagher, but they need to score goals. Yeah, they do they need another setback. That's right he hasn't done it and they're

they don't think that the guy who is pretty much money in the bank for 30 goals and 60 points for whatever reason is going to get his game back this guy who hasn't failed sorry he's never failed to reach 50 points

or a 50 point pace since his third season in the league. Now to be fair here his first two seasons he didn't hit it and then I think his third season he did and he hasn't missed it since

he's on pace to miss it this year you are correct he has scored 8 goals this year Chris Letang has 2 so I mean

he's got something like what is it that's unbelievable Letang has 25 points this this slumping bum

of a defenseman I feel like I feel like the view on Chris Letang would change significantly if he came

to Toronto and we all of a sudden had a guy with 25 because Morgan Riley's having an outstanding season. He's already passed his, or he's tied his points from last year. 40 games in and he's got 28 points, which is pretty good.

Imagine a second guy like that. I think a trade would be really, really good for Max Pacioretty, the player, right? Forget the Habs and the Penguins. I think it'd be fantastic for Pacioretty, the player. I don't think a change of scenery would be good for LeTang because no matter where he goes, the expectations will be too high.

Like When a player gets to the age And the wear and tear of a Chris Letang Their name Follows them wherever they go But their skills don't necessarily But then again 25 points in 37 games

Yeah I think he's pretty good That kind of reminds me of a guy named Shea Weber His skills probably Didn't travel with him He's their best defenseman by far By far And a lot of their struggles have to do with he hasn't been Fully healthy this year

He played hurt For a long time But imagine A healthy Shea Weber A healthy Chris Letang You get Victor Mete Back from the World Juniors There's three guys

You need Like who I think they still have Jeff Petrie And then really You just need to find Two competent bums For the left

There's a Very competent bum He's a right He's a right handed No I think he's left He's left Is he? Yeah they got him on

Petrie's Petrie's right Petrie's right And then Jordy Benn on the left. You know, that's not a terrible core. It's not. In front of Carey Price, and then up front, you figure it out. And they're all locked down until the lockout year, so you're good.

Druin is better than this. Lekkonen, you've been missing him for a lot of the season. Deneau is having a good season. You've got Gallagher. If Patch Ready gets traded for Letang, does Edmonton go on strike? No, because they're going to get Dolan That's how this works That's how this works

Oh my god And then we Then we cancel the league And it's going to be a shame Because Vegas is going to be poised To win the Stanley Cup But they hold the draft lottery Before the Stanley Cup final

And so right before They get to make their Disney movie We have to cancel the whole season Because the NHL is cancelled Three teams in the running for him That really Their whole franchise plan would change if they got him.

Arizona, because you'd be able to hang on to Oliver Ekman-Larsen probably. Maybe. Edmonton, which needs him.

And Edmonton's having a bad year. I think Edmonton's a playoff team at the least. So if they get him, next year they'll just explode.

It'll be like Tampa Bay last year, right? Yeah. To an extent, yeah. To an extent. I mean, I don't think they've got

dry saddle on McDavid, but I don't know if they've got the Kucherov-Stamkos thing for McDavid yet. The Habs, the year they finished third last

for some stupid reason And got Galchenyuk Like they weren't They were never that bad No They just Haven't had a bad year And then they came back

The next year And whoa And then you've got Buffalo Who stinks Who stinks But you put Rasmus Ristolainen in there

And you trade a couple Of those guys I think I trade Rasmus For Forno I don't know if you trade The best defenseman They have Yeah but he's on

A terrible team He's a top 4D In this league You keep him I don't know. Anyway. I don't concern myself with Buffalo. How?

Next. I'm kidding. I just, two questions before we wrap this up. Two questions before we wrap this up. First question is this. Do the Leafs make an in-season trade this year? Yeah. Because we got two months to the trade deadline.

You think so? Yep. Do you think it'll be for a defenseman? Yep. Okay. Do you think it'll be for a top four defenseman? Or will it make them just competent? Competent.

Okay. So it's not going to be a big trade. I keep going back to Petrovic and I say that to say Petrovic-ish if that makes sense

okay maybe a green not Tanev level Petrovic level no Tanev's too damn much yeah and then the second thing is

does Chris Letang get traded in season oof that really strikes Jim Rutherford's gonna make a move but I think he's gonna

Elliot Freeman says Jim Rutherford wants to make a big splash it's Jim Rutherford man patch ready would be sick he's on a team

he's on a team with the with an hourglass right their time is running out although they've done a lot with that time

but their time is running out Freed says they're looking to make a splash I think a splash comes patch ready

they made it sound like that could be a summer thing I have a question yes how likely is it that we trade one of our

goaltenders for defensive help because we do have a surplus there. Yeah, it's tough. The Leafs are in a very weird position because we're fans.

We're impatient. We have some. Like, it's funny. Before the Leafs, I mean, when the Peter Horacek rebuild started, I mean, that was patience

waiting through that half of the season and then the entire next season. It was, but patience doesn't come when the team is bad. patience comes

when there's hope yeah you're right last year I was so much more anxious watching each and every Leafs game

than I was at any point before it like since like 2004 same for the lockout

yeah the Leafs they're still young and they're still rebuilding they are still rebuilding

you should hold on to the depth you have because I think you're just going improve naturally so maybe I should shut up about the

defense and just be like okay that's what it is right now and they're going to develop it and we'll get better but it's so hard

to not be like dude you have Sparks and Pickard that's crazy but if you flip Sparks and Kapanen you can get like a decent D

can you? I don't know I would imagine I don't like the idea of trading Kapanen I don't like the idea of trading no I think

he's a guy that steps in next year and I think he's a big part of the club I think him and Sosh are both big parts of the Leafs next year

I think Sosh is gone You think Sasha's going? I think when we're talking about parts that get dealt, the Leafs will look to move Sasha, I think. He probably wants to go anyway. I think he does. I think he, well, he wants to play. He wants to play.

I don't blame him. Is he still hurt? I don't know. What's the deal with him? I don't know. Such a mystery. It is kind of funny that Pickard, by the way, was called up. Like, Curtis McElhinney just happened to have an injury

the day they're playing Colorado? Yeah. McElhinney had supposedly been hurt for a while. Pickard was on a plane To Colorado The night before He was officially called up I don't know

What do you think that was? I don't know I mean it is fishy But what does that mean? Is it like they're doing that because he's played so well In the AHL they want to reward him by playing Against his old team Maybe

See what they have because they can send him back down as much as they want, right? I believe that McElhinney was hurt and Pickard got the call ahead of Sparks because Sparks was just coming off an injury. And I said it could have been nickel and diming because, remember, Pickard is on a one-way NHL deal. But the whole...

But he cleared waivers, right? He cleared waivers and he makes a million bucks, so it's all buried. So, I don't know, I think it was just maybe McElhinney was a little banged up. they saw an opportunity and they gave Pickard the start

because it's not like they threw him in there under the best circumstances no they flew him in the night before the game didn't tell him he was starting

until the day of the game he says and he was pretty good it was alright like he made he made a couple really simple mistakes that I expect him

to fix pretty quickly like he just seemed nervous the one where the rebound got away from him and I mean it's Nathan Friggen-McKinnon he's unbelievable and then there was another one.

It was the third goal where he just got way too excited and overcommitted. I think he's a better goalie than that. Calvin Pickard had his best one.

What did you guys think of the Nate McKinnon Connor Brown mix up in overtime that led to the goal? Is that a penalty? Not in my opinion, no. But that was

that was a mature moment for me because I was like I get it. I think it's coincidental minors. I think they're both they're both in fault there.

I think you could argue Brown impeded McKinnon. But you can't argue that McKinnon didn't impede Brown. Or dove. Oh, yeah. That's one of the best skaters in the league. But he also stuck his arm out. He hauled Brown down. He hauled him down.

So that's coincidental minors is what that is. Yeah, I just... It doesn't matter that Connor Brown switched his skating and maybe got in his way a little bit. The fact that Nathan McKinnon responded and did something in kind, to me, is coincidental. There is coincidental, not coincidental, situational officiating. And Babcock said it a few games ago when the Leafs got put down 5-on-3.

You know, you got to be sure when you're putting that second guy in. You got to be sure making that call. There's been a few occurrences recently where the Leafs were put down 5-on-3. And this one in overtime where, man, those are all situations where you better be sure. And I don't think you can be sure with that call. I'm not outraged over it because I can see how in the speed of the moment you would make that call. I can totally see it. But I think it was the wrong call.

I can I can remain calm about it and still think it was the wrong call which is rare for me Jesse thoughts I've been looking for this

the slow-mo replay of who grabbed who you should watch the real time though it's so fast it's almost impossible to see okay we're watching it we're watching it

for one McKinnon throws it up to himself which is frustrating oh man yeah come on McKinnon gets his arm in front of Brown Yeah No it's the wrong call

It's the wrong call So I think I was upset about it And I have every right to be Because they actually didn't get it right And especially because it's overtime It's a bad call It's a bad call

Thank you But Speed of the game It's the wrong call And I keep saying this If you're going to have humans ref the game Then you're going to have human error And I understand

No That's my thing If you're going to have humans Unless you want computers to ref the game but they should humans will have okay fair enough but as long as

they have humans reffing the game there will be human error this is one of those times I know the question to the answer I'm about to ask but I'm going to

throw it out there anyway do you know the answer to the question or the question to the answer you didn't say that I know the question to the answer

I'm about to ask sorry ask your answer Steven this is Jeopardy it's like an answer full of questions no now you must

ask your question in the form of an answer Oh shit. This is going to be really fucking complicated. Churn that brain of yours. Well, I suppose it would just be yes or no. Because now you don't know what the question is. Oh, just fucking say it. This is really frustrating to listen to. I'm sorry for anybody who's listening to this.

Should you be able to challenge penalty calls in overtime? No. No? I think you're right. But this is a situation where that might have been nice. Freaking Gerard Gallant challenging the third goal from the Leafs yesterday. That was the right move. Give me a break.

That was the right move. That is crap. I'm so bored of these stupid fucking challenges, man. Oh, my God. You know what? He has the lead. He probably wasn't going to use that timeout anyway. Leafs got a late goal in the second,

and they begin the third with another huge momentum, you know, adrenaline shot across the bench goal. And Matthews almost gets his third later on and almost ties the game. So he tried to, I think he tried to kill the momentum. Okay, I'm going to put a hypothetical to you guys while we switch gears here. And I want you to tell me what you would think. And I want to, if you're on our Reddit page, if you're on Twitter, but I like our Reddit page because everybody can get together and talk about this.

And I write on there sometimes. Yeah, for sure. We all kind of read it and stuff like that. Someone was mad about something recently and I went, whoa, whoa, whoa. And I answered their question. Cool. Yeah, often people are mad on Reddit. But here's what I would want everybody to do.

Okay, so I want you to put yourself in the position of an NHL player. Oh, I'm so rich. And you're a highly skilled NHL player. You're not making league minimum. So cool having these. You are not making league minimum. You are a big time, big money NHL player. And it doesn't really matter what country you're from.

you're an absolute superstar and a lock to make your country's Olympic. Can I be from Belarus? You can be from Belarus. Yes! If Belarus qualifies for the Olympics, you have to be going. So if Belarus did get into the Olympics, which they normally

do, then yes, you can be Belarusian, sir. Oh, this is an Olympic question. It has to be an Olympic question. I thought this was an NHL question. Well, it is. Ah, so he's gone? Yeah. If you're one of those players, are you not Calling your friends going, you know, I think I'm going to be sick around the All-Star break. Is there an All-Star game this year?

There is an All-Star game this year. Tampa Bay, Florida. Now, according to our good friend Elliot Freeman, who would not write this down lightly. Oh, is this what I think it is? There is a bit of, as he put it, saber-rattling about some of the top NHL players who were supposed to go to the Olympics this year. Being pissed off about it still. Rightly so, we all are. saying, you know what?

I'm not going to go to the All-Star game. And they'll get suspended for a game. And I don't think they care. That's what happened to Pavel Datsy. What a joke that was. They can't suspend them for a game. Didn't they suspend Sidney Crosby? Well, here's the great thing.

No, it's because if you don't go to the All-Star game, then you can't play because you're injured. So he just didn't play. Yeah. No, I think it's a suspension. Look it up. Look it up. No, because he was injured and he couldn't play.

So you have to sit out the next game. I actually think he was suspended, man. Yeah, type in Datsy. No, the Sidney Crosby one. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what I'm referring to. Yeah, the Sidney Crosby one. Yeah, well, Sidney Crosby's been injured for a lot of the All-Star games.

How many has he played in two? Yeah. That's crazy. But think about this. If the NHL wants to suspend you, you get all your friends on board. So say you're Sidney Crosby, Alexander Ovechkin, Connor McDavid, Austin Matthews. They've got to suspend all of you. They've got to suspend all of you.

So then, the first game back from the All-Star break, not only have they had zero star power at their All-Star game, Which definitely pisses off the city of Tampa Then you've got no star power In your NBC, CBC Sportsnet, whoever's carrying it Games Does that send a message

Okay, lockouts are all About prick waving This is just prick waving Please don't, don't Because it's just another step towards a lockout I have a mortgage you assholes It's coming Don't have a lockout

It's coming It's coming What happens to the To all the hockey games That run on the NBC Sports networks What do you mean Because the NBC

Has the rights to the Olympics So all of that time And aren't they pissed They're really pissed With the NHL about that Because they fully expected I don't know how They worked that out

But apparently Behind the scenes There was some Pretty tense meetings Damn Look you could watch The Rangers Take on Tampa

Or You could watch By Athlon Mark Archibald Brian Gionta and James Wisniewski Take on Who is even gonna be on Canada's team

I think they're naming the team in two weeks Yeah, January 11th Can't wait Jesse Blacker Friend of the Steve Dangle podcast Zach Boychuk Scored the Spangler Cup winning goal the other day Is he a friend of the show?

He is a friend of the show, a listener Really? Zach listens to our show? Zach! Well, hi, Zach. Oh, Zach. See, already. Already, first name basis. My boy Z actually follows me on Twitter like he follows everybody else on Twitter.

So that's why. He does follow everyone else, and that makes me not feel special. He told you he listens? Oh, I slid into those DMs. Did you really? Yeah, I slid. How'd you open? I don't know.

Let me look. Hey, man. One time, somebody tried to charge me a dollar extra for my Mazda, but then I told him no. I think they're going to trade Garrett's part. Oh, sorry. That's the wrong conversation. I'm surprised you didn't say your boy boy

that would have been a lot a lot better my home boy boy yeah so boy is gonna like

get it the NHL god that's so bad sorry that was in the first best of right it was the NHL could not suspend all their star players for not going to the all star game

because then they'd be totally screwed on the TV schedule no they could and if they did Batman would do it if they did what a message sent. Now, does it accomplish anything?

No, but I think the players probably want to have their voices heard. So it would be very interesting to see if this happens. 99% chance that it doesn't because this is the NHL and these guys don't do this. They don't protest much.

But it would be very interesting. And there are rumors. There are rumors. It'd be interesting on the drama side. The entertainment side of it, and I think Friedman might have been the one who pitched this

as well dude look at the NHL this year look at the Lightning they're an they're an all-star team they should you're on the right track Adam

they should have an all-star team their first place it's in Tampa make them one of the teams huh make them one of the teams how many

how many players are on each team like seven yeah be kind of cool that'd be wicked come on they had

when it was LA did not four LA players make it it's oh it's only pretty good Montreal

yeah and they had the whole team up Mike Comasteric was an all star yeah but like dude you could run Stamkos Kucherov

Hedman Vasilevski which will it'll probably happen that will win yeah yeah that's

they'll be they'll win not only will they be a team but they'll win no it was I can't read the full open to boy chuck but it was basically he's he's in the book there's a story that involves him

and uh i sent it to him oh cool and he blah blah we were talking about an interview that we did he said no way that's awesome oddly enough i remember being interviewed by you don't remember having to call you cory though oh that's yeah that's part of the story i've been listening to your podcast all summer love that you guys are into the bachelor no see it's all you haters And losers Who didn't like the fact That we were into The Bachelor Zach Boychuk does

Haters and losers Haters and losers That's why I did it I just like calling I listen to Some of our old Mark Madden stuff Haters and losers

What's that? I listen to some of our Old Mark Madden stuff I was trying to find A Jake and Smallwood club Why do you keep Bringing this up? What?

I'm just losing Our old stuff Because I haven't Seen you guys I haven't seen you guys for a couple weeks and I miss you. Are you writing a book?

I'm writing a book. Steve is the podcast meme. Yeah. Except with you and me. He sits there and he's like, I'm with my friends. I'm with him

on his podcast app. Listen to the episodes from 2016, apparently. I love inside jokes. I'd love to be part of one someday. Thoughts on the

Zach Rinaldo suspension? Only six games. Trash. Shit. Like, Look, Paul Bissonnette got on Twitter And he actually made a compelling argument I thought, for Zach Rinaldo

Look, it happens So fast Etc, etc I'm trying to remember the hit on McKinnon I don't think it was that bad But then, like, Gerrard is coming at him You You shouldn't, you should never blame the victim

But I mean Gerrard needs to be aware That he is coming At a player With a rap sheet No well he's coming at a player In a we're about to tussle Manner

He was and then he just kind of dropped His guard He skated full bore At Ronaldo and then decided He wasn't going to do anything And then Ronaldo pops him Now Ronaldo Doesn't know he's an unsuspecting player

Because a second prior He looked like a suspecting player like this is I think this goes back to a conversation we had a while ago by the way Nathan McKinnon

is not a guy you want to fight with who's that fighting with him Archibald that's such a horrible matchup McKinnon boxes and he's also extremely lanky

yeah he's a boxer and Archibald is smaller than Mitch Marner he's I think he's 5'9 175 pounds

he'd be the smallest guy in this room I don't know but at the same time like I just called the suspension trash it's Zach Rinaldo and he's been suspended

what was this his sixth one his fifth one and it was also a questionable hit was it maybe not questionable I think he just

caught him you know I don't know if it's questionable Eric Johnson laid out beating on him though nah it's not

a questionable hit that's fine yeah the hit's fine unless he left his feet and we couldn't see from that angle and it was because McKinnon got banged

no no and look yeah Gerrard Gerrard does go after him yeah So here's my question I'm sorry

That's a little bit his fault And like Okay So he goes at him He's making body contact with him And he's not looking at him Are you nuts? That's a

That's a flip mode Kind of guy There's a few players in the league You don't want to do that to Because they got the crazy eyes You don't want to do that to Zach Kassian He's nuts You don't want to do that to Zach Rinaldo

Mm-hmm Kadri's got a little bit of the red mist Andrew Shaw will rip your freaking head off. You can't comment a guy like Zach Rinaldo or anyone like that and expect nothing to happen. So, here's my question.

So, I don't know, maybe I'm contradicting myself. Does the NHL, well, it's fine, you're working through it. Does the NHL look at it as an isolated incident? Do they look at each suspension as this is isolated or do they look at a player's history? Do they take that into account? They have to take the history into account, but I think in this situation, they didn't really.

Yeah see that's interesting That is interesting So like okay This is Ronaldo's again Fifth or sixth suspension So And a couple AHL suspensions In there too

Yeah So let's say it was Archibald doing that To McKinnon Ah well and McKinnon's a star So let's say Archibald to friggin Blake Como

What does Archibald get? Maybe a game? You think? Maybe Was the He's also not gonna throw a punch that looks as vicious as this. Like,

Zach Rinaldo, when he throws a punch, it's Zach Rinaldo throwing the punch. It's not Archibald throwing the punch. It's not, I mean,

like, he's a, it's what he does. He does, ugh. I know Bissonnette was saying he didn't have a second to think. He had a second to think there.

He had a second to think. Like, again, Gerrard is not even looking at Rinaldo, which is dumb, so dumb, on Gerrard's part.

But, In the split second you have Don't you go He's not even looking at me I don't think the fight's on guys Yeah But is it your fault That the guy

Coming at you Is not prepared Protect yourself At all times But this isn't boxing This isn't like that time That guy dropped his guard Against Floyd Mayweather

In a boxing match No but this is hockey That's boxing This is hockey And you still have to Keep that in mind Like I I understand what

Paul Bissonnette was saying I think he's right In the sense that Like, you got to defend yourself because you can't take that chance. Because if, let's say, Zach Rinaldo lets his guard down and Samuel Gerrard decks him in the face with a stick. Then Zach Rinaldo, you know, then Zach Rinaldo lets his guard down and Samuel Gerrard's out for a game or two.

So, you know, that's the thing. It's a tough thing, but at six games, it's a lot. It's a lot of games, but is it enough? And this is not a guy that hasn't done this before. As you said, he's got flip mode. He flips. It's so hard because, you know what, I think, because a lot of players, a lot of people were saying

this should be the end of his season. So now we're talking like a 50-game suspension, something like that? That's more than they gave Marty McSorley originally. What Ronaldo did on this play happens several times a season. Oh, yeah. So were you going to dole out 50 games every time this happens? I think it's just because his last name is Ronaldo and he's got a reputation, man.

I don't, you know, it's hard. It's hard, because I looked at the six-game suspension, and I go, that's trash, and then I look at it, and I don't know, I'm going to get yelled at. A lot of people aren't going to like that, but okay. If you come at someone, and you can't half-heartedly come at someone. That's what Gerard did.

Yeah, you can't half-heartedly get in someone's face. Yeah. You know that whole, them's fighting words saying? You know, there's body language to it, too. My dad. Them's body language fighting words. My dad's a very quiet guy, which is funny because I'm completely the opposite. And he's very well-mannered.

He's, you know, well-dressed and, you know, clean haircut and not an aggressive person at all. A haircut you can set your watch to. Yeah, I've never seen him swear in the car at other drivers. Like, he's not a fiery man. Well, we're not related. But my dad said to me once, he said, okay, well, if you're in school, because I was talking about some bullies that were giving me a hard time or something, And he said, well, the whole point in life, he said, try not to fight, but if you are

going to fight, make sure you hit them first. Yeah. Yep. And I think that's kind of the school that Zach Rinaldo's in, you know, you, if you are, if it is going to happen and sometimes in life, it's unavoidable, especially when you're a kid and in the NHL, which is kind of like being a kid, um, you, you have to, you got to hit first, man. You got to hit.

If you get punched And you Go at someone The way Gerard did It's a little bit your fault It's a little bit your fault I take it back I guess it's not that bad

I wonder if Gerard went Suspension I wonder if Gerard went And then When he backed off Hey you can't hit my Oh it's Ronaldo But he wasn't looking at him

He was He skated over to him So he saw him He did see him Is there a wider angle Of the whole thing Because I want to know Who he's looking at

Give me your computer Okay so Hit happens Who are you looking at Who's he even looking at I thought he was looking at an official He skates over to him But then he's like looking over Ronaldo's shoulder

Who are you looking at Wait I think I might have figured it out He's skating over to him You know, who's the right-hander there? Who is this? Who's this? I don't know.

45, Archibald. You know who he's looking at? A more suitable dance partner. Uh, no. You don't think? Look where Archibald's going. He's coming down. He goes right here.

Archibald's coming straight. We're going to have to put this in the YouTube video because no one can understand what you guys are talking about. Yeah, sorry. No, but he realizes, okay, this is a bad matchup for me, and he's looking for a more suitable dance partner I think

but Archibald he's not even dealing with it I don't even know if he saw it Gerrard made a mistake so did Ronaldo and the next time

you can't suspend someone for getting punched but you can definitely suspend someone for next time grab grab his if you're gonna get in there

grab him grab him grab both those arms and make sure he can't move those arms and just freaking hold on you're

all I would say if you stood up you're asking Zach Rinaldo to wait which yeah you can't I think he I do think he had enough time

there's oh it's so fast and you know you don't have time to think I think he did okay but not a lot it's a little bit

Gerard's fault which takes some of the I wouldn't say some of the blame away from Rinaldo but some of the fire out of it

you know well I mean Rinaldo could still have full blame and Gerard can have some blame too totally that's possible

it's not like it's not like I feel terrible for Gerrard I feel terrible for Gerrard absolutely terrible

but yeah if you get in someone's face like that and you get punched it's not strange something to low key keep your eye on

is the Brandon Saad Artemi Panarin result of trade Artemi Panarin is absolutely tearing it up Brandon Saad

not so much had such a hot first week or two such a hot first week or two what if Chicago doesn't make the playoffs this year

Oh, they will. Where are they? I will look that up for you. Last I checked, they were a wildcard team. They are not even that. They are, they've got 42 points. The next wildcard team, Anaheim at 44. Oh, wow.

So you're saying they're going to make it, but they're not in. I think they'll make it. Who are they going to leapfrog? What are the teams that are ahead of them? They got Minnesota, Anaheim, Dallas. They're not going to catch. Winnipeg is leading the Central. 52 points.

Stop that. They're doing great. Winnipeg National About bloody time though They've always had the talent They finally just put it together Vegas is winning the cup Can we talk about

How Vegas is winning the cup Actually what I wanted to get to Is that Boston has now Surpassed Toronto For second in the division That's how hot Boston is I'm not worried about it

I'm not worried about it They might finish Ahead of the Leafs But I'm not worried about it Three games in hand Toronto-Boston first round Series It's looking more and more

Like it's going to happen These are two teams Who should want each other The Leafs have played Boston amazingly over the past two years and if I look around the east I go

yeah I'd rather play you instead of Tampa or literally anyone in the metro Columbus or the New York Islanders yeah no both teams should want this matchup

both fan bases should want this matchup it's awesome I just hope it happens James don't screw this up for us yeah please

don't lift another hopeless team to the playoffs James I'd love to see a Florida-Toronto match if I think it'd be sick imagine if James Reimer

is what prevents a Toronto-Boston He couldn't though Well yeah I guess they could But they're so far back I mean Toronto and Boston Have 48 points

It's January 1st Florida's got 39 Florida's like 9 points behind January 1st Was Pittsburgh not out of the playoffs Last year this time? Or like Two years ago

I think they were Mid-December Two years ago they were When they fired Mike Johnson Yeah But yeah 41 points

The next There are 3 points Behind the Islanders For that last wild card spot And Columbus Believe it or not Is in a wild card spot too And I would call them

A cup favorite Or a contender at least 47 points But that Metro division The Rangers have climbed back in Because the Rangers will not die The Eastern Conference Final Is fascinating

And New Jersey Second place I know The Eastern Conference Final Is going to be fascinating Because you're going to have Whoever comes out of the Atlantic And

A battered and bruised Metro team A Metro team that had to defeat Two other Metro teams Yeah That's so unfortunate wow hey that's amazing Tampa Vegas final

do you guys want to hear what Switzerland's coach said about his team's chances going into the game against Canada because everyone's been talking about this clip

and I haven't heard it yet it's so funny it's so I've also not heard this alright I think you're going to like it so obviously they're playing in the quarters

for the world juniors oh hang on here hang on here and here we go Canada in the quarter finals what sort of game are you expecting there

like a Canada team who dominates us again and we try to hold against what did you learn about them

in the pre-tournament game you played learn that we are far away from them still they're faster they're bigger

they're stronger they can shoot better they can pass better they can do everything better so is this what you'll tell your team like what do you say to your team

exactly that and we try to fight against what do I want to say you know they have like how many How many are the first rounders they have how many huh seven and the rest in the second round

And one in the fourth round to play like the most NHL game so far. So what I want to tell against This we just a battle a battle and try to bet we have one in a fourth round to one and the rest is not Drafted is it good though that you can kind of be the underdog and no pressure. Well, I have a pressure I don't know that word pressure. We don't have pressure at all I freaking love him I love him That answer ended so abruptly His name is Christian Woolwyn by the way

He is the coach And you know what I listened to that whole clip And I'm like I don't disagree with the thing that he said Nope They are better than us It's almost like the Larry Brooks

The Russians are better than us They'll beat us 9 times out of 10 Everyone got so mad at us Or so Us what? Everyone got so mad at this guy They got mad at him for this? I saw some people

Like oh that's so That's so demoralizing Not at all Honest It's in the same spirit Just said less passionately As if we play them ten times They might win nine

Cause That was the whole The whole reason Miracle on Ice is crazy Is it was a miracle That they won This would have been Switzerland's miracle

Yeah Okay So you go in with that attitude And he didn't have the but But we're gonna go out there and we're going to beat them. He did say, like, we're going to work hard,

but he said, we're in for it. But he should have also said, we're going to beat them. He shouldn't have said, they're so much better than us. We're going to try, no pressure. See, you know what demoralizes me? We have to play the best game of our lives.

Bingo. Love that. What demoralizes me is liars. If I have a manager or leader who, in an untenable situation like that, where literally the odds are stacked against you, And rather than inspiring you, they just lie. Because if he said, but, you know, I feel like we're going to have a go in there and have a good chance.

No, you don't. You don't have a good chance. So all he's saying is we don't have a great chance here. Look at that team. And also what he's doing is he's distracting. He's playing the flattery game. Oh, they're really, really good. You know what I mean?

We've seen this before. I think this is gamesmanship a little bit too. Don't discount that. Interesting. He's right. I'd rather him be honest, because as a young man, you just want somebody to just be honest. Yeah, we're in for it, but we're going to work hard, and here's our strategy, and we're going to try to execute this strategy to win.

All right, boys, we're going to go kick Canada's ass. We're going to kick the ass of Canada. Nope. Nope, no, I think that's exactly the— I'll take honesty, any day. Yeah. I mean, what's so fun about tournaments like this, the World Juniors especially, is every year there's some team that should barely be there that overachieves

and they freak out. They freak out. Slovakia, ah, kind of ruined your story there with the Finland own goal. That sucked. They were on the verge of being that team this year. Switzerland could be that team. They were this team a few years ago. They had a goalie, Benjamin Kans, caught right-handed, and they beat Russia, I'm pretty sure.

And Krzysztof Skrzlewski from the Olympics. Yeah, that was Latvia. Peter Mrazek was that goalie in the World Juniors for the Czech Republic a few years ago. And he had his big celebrations every time he made a save or his team scored a goal. Interacting with the fans. Denmark was that team last year or the year before. Everyone's like Holy shit

How are they winning Um Who did they have No was it Denmark I want to say They had Nikolai Ehlers I think it was Denmark And

And it was like Him and his band Of merry men And just Willed them To like Like a Quarter finals

Yeah It's great It's I think it's what Makes this tournament great And there needs to I like that honesty I just love the honesty

Um Tell me it's gonna be tough That'll make me want to Fight harder so Canada played the US in an outdoor game that a lot of people

didn't like because it took forever I mean it snowed you can't help that and the camera angles were kind of weird but they were brutal

you also can't help that it's a football stadium right so I mean it didn't look good but I'm not sure what they were to do

you sold 40,000 yeah that's what you're supposed to do I'm not sure what you were to do and it sucked because I think

half the Canadians that wanted to go couldn't because there was some sort of accident on the QEW. So there was a terrible delay to get across the border. Yeah, there was lots of sports reporters and stuff who were going down

and they couldn't make it. They couldn't go. Natasha Staniszewski, I think. Long name from TSN. Yes. Yeah, she was tweeting about that. I think the border was bad because they're just, you know,

they decide to tighten the borders whenever the hell they feel like it. And then there was that accident which literally not just blocked traffic a little bit, blocked the whole road. It was out. So the game was a complete failure, and we should never do it again.

They sold 40,000 tickets. Is it getting—sorry, I brought that up to say, is it getting a little old? The outdoor game thing? Yeah. No, not the outdoor game thing. Like, I don't know. Are there—what's the best rivalry in junior—in international junior hockey? Because, like, we could definitively say a few years ago, Canada-U.S.

Sweden-Russia's pretty good. They sure hate each other. And there's like political stuff there too right Because Russia keeps sending submarines into Swedish water So the Swedes are Swedes and Finns are a little bit upset about that It's definitely USA Canada Yeah nothing else scales like that

I do like Swedes Swedes and Russians though I don't know I just feel like it's Maybe I It's lost a little bit of the fire for me But there was such a renaissance When Canada won five straight It was just crazy here

The popularity I feel like it's better for the sport overall that other teams win consistently. You can't, I don't think it's good for a sport when the same country wins all the time. I love that Canada wins at the Olympics all the time, but I don't think it's great for the sport. It's already a stereotype that, oh, Canadians and their hockey, like, the States winning every now and then would be good. Well, I guess the other stereotype is Americans and their every other sport. Yeah. So then

Americans and the Chinese Basically dominate Every Olympics they go to You know what would give International hockey A big kick in the ass I think in the States And in Canada

If Russia won If Russia won Yeah but Russia seems To be falling off Right And it's kind of Killing the rivalry Isn't it

Sure is A little bit Like I mean both teams Still hate each other And they usually play Decent games But It was great

When like Canada became like the underdog at certain points throughout the rivalry. It's lacking. Yeah. It's lacking.

So, I guess we need to do the press conference. Are we ready for that? Sure. I'm not going to do it. I see you looking good. Are you going to hold back

all of 2018? I see you looking good. All right, all right. The Presser SDP. The Steve Dangle Press Conference. In 2017, Who do you think scored the most goals in the calendar year of 2017? So from January 1st, 2017 to December 31st, 2017.

Which NHL player, National Hockey League professional player, scored the most amount of goals? The ones where the puck crossed the red line fully. The red line that's inside of the goaltender's net. Can you clarify? I can. Does that include playoffs? No, it does not. Regular season only.

I think I know the answer, and I can't believe it. I'm going to say Nikita Kucherov to be wrong on purpose. I'm going to say Blake Wheeler. The correct answer is Nikita Kucherov. Oh! Of course. Who do you think it was? Why did you think it was wrong?

I thought it was going to be Anders Lee. Oh. Second place. Anders Lee. Anders Lee. That is crazy! Who is he? Before and he had the calendar lead for like December December and nobody even considers him a top like

No, last I checked Josh Bailey was second in league scoring. Yeah, Josh. What's going on? The team is there Scoring goals, but nobody's really paying attention to Anders Lee is apparently the second best goal scorer in the league Yeah, if I'm not mistaken their goal timings been bad if I am not mistaken. No, okay. I am mistaken Josh Bailey and Tavares both have contracts that are up this year that sucks I thought Anders Lee might be up too but he's not he's got two more years

he's making like nothing right 3-7-5 44 goals that's alright Austin Matthews is also on the list at 1-2-3-4-5-6 39 goals especially for a guy that missed as many games as he did

5th Patrick Kane 39 fourth Ovi 40 Brad Marchand Patrick Kane had 39 goals in a calendar year yes he did

wow wow wow is that the third time or the fourth time he's done that I mean look if he

if he hits 30 goals five times we need to start talking statue oh oh yeah that's already being a statue oh they're making a statue

yeah I don't even think we talked about it no but is it a statue you don't think there's going to be a statue Oh, there will be a statue. Steve, there will be.

Him and Taze got a statue coming. Now, if he does it five times. 50 feet. If he does it five times, is it, at what point does Taze get his own? Because you'd think right now they would put them together as one statue. They get a statue for each 30-goal season. But they would want separate statues, don't you think? A statue for each 30-goal season.

Now, do they just build the statues on top of the Michael Jordan statue? Or do they just put them? Michael Jordan's holding them. Oh, okay, there we go. Right? Imagine if they had as many 30 goal seasons as like Max Pacioretty Like that'd be crazy. I was looking that up Max Pacioretty. Do they combined have as many 30 goal seasons as Max Pacioretty? Max Pacioretty has five 30 goal seasons. Oh, so they do

Do they have five between them? Does Jonathan Tays have a 30 goal season? He's got at least one They went to 29 once, but I don't know if he got a 30. He's got at least one I like this game Does your team, Stardew, have more 30-goal seasons than Max Pacioretty? Jonathan Taves has 134 goals. How many does Patrick Hinton have? No, he's got a 32 as well. Oh, he's got a 32 in there?

Ah, yeah. Two seasons later. Yeah, fair enough. That's no fun. So, yes, they combine to have as many as Max Pacioretty. How many does Michael Grabner have? That's a good question. Pop this.

I like this. What duo has more 30-goal seasons? Kanan Taves or Pacioretty Grabner Pacioretty Grabner because Grabner has won Grabner has won and he's going to have

another this year he's on pace yeah he is he's got 18 goals already in 39 games he's going to for sure Jesse's giving me

Steven Steven Steve I don't appreciate this you know how many I get tweets every single day that just go

Steven do you do you ever look at those tweets and say hey Maybe it's me. Nope. No.

I double down. All right. Next thing from the... My New Year's resolution. Just keep it moving. Just stop all the pollution. Talk to him. Fish don't kill my vibe.

I know the song. I know the song you're referring to. Shout out AIVIS. AIVIS. AIVIS on Twitter. Who sent us this little tweet. A girl I know from college is a photographer in smallish town Oklahoma and posts a graphic with all the names of babies she's photographed each year.

Remember before the show? I can't decide what my least favorite name is. It's all so bad. Remember before the show when I was like, Jesse, I'm going to send you a link to a tweet, and you can decide whether or not we use it. This was it? It was this.

It's perfect. Great minds. Would you like to hear some of the names? Yes. I'll start at the top. So wait, are these boys or girls? Or does it matter? Okay.

Yeah, I can distinguish which ones are which. Okay. We got a boy. His name is Hudson. We got Warner. Bennett, stop me anytime. I'm just going to run through them. Okay, Hudson.

I don't mind Hudson. My buddy's dog is named Hudson. I don't know any humans. Warner as a first name? Mm-hmm. I don't know about that. What's the next one? Haley.

It's very normal. How do you spell Haley? H-A-L-E-Y No No I'm not No, I'm not feeling it I'm not feeling

I feel like that's Can you name a boy Haley? It's a girl I think if you did You would spell it that way No, isn't Haley supposed to be like H-A-Y? No, they spell it H-A-L-E-Y I'm not feeling it

Okay Hayes That's a boy First name? Hayes There's going to be a generation of Lasty Lastys Lasty Lastys aren't bad I guess

You're a firsty firsty though I am a firsty firsty Blaine I mean you're a Pokemon boss Sky Ellen Stop What? Jesse one name at a time

S-K-Y-E-L-Y-N-N One more time Sky Ellen Sky Ellen is better but I think it's Scalen I'm looking at it right now

Sky Ellen I think it's Skylen Skylen I bet I bet there's a list do we have a

listener named Sky Ellen if we have one person could you please tell us how to pronounce your name what the hell is

that name I've never seen another one that popped out of me that might be one of those old Irish names that are Celtic or something

like that Where it's like two syllables and 14 letters. I met someone named Fanula once. I was like, where did you get a name like Fanula? And she's like, oh, it's Irish, but it's old. And I was like, oh, they just called her Finny. And I was like, that's cool. I like that Finny.

We don't give someone a name where they're just going to call them the easier thing. Oh, we're going to name her Frugan Frugan Frugan. Really, Steven? I know. What are you talking about? Steve and Steven are a little different than. Oh, no, I think it's Frugan Frugan Frugan. I can't believe the one guy in the room who actually has a shortened name

What are you talking about? It's not 2018 is off to a great start Oh my god What was your friend's goofy name? What was your friend's dumb name? Tell me your dumb friend's name Her name was Phanula

Which is a very pretty old Irish name And they called her Finn Oh, I love that. And that's the same as Steven and Steve. There's Christopher. Shut up. There's Joseph. Like, I don't know.

Caitlin, Katie. Like, it's a thing. I am literally deleting one letter from my name. Yeah, to make it easier. Yeah, it's one letter. I'm not changing Fnool and Finney. What about Chris to Christopher? Oh, those people are silly.

Producer Christopher was a joke. There's Dax and then a Daxton. Dax, I could have stomached! Bottom right, bottom right. Are you talking about Tabor? Yes, I'm talking about Tabor. Tabor sounds like a mid-card character from Thor. Let's see. How do you spell Tabor? T-A-Y-B-O-R. T-A-Y-B-O-R.

Tabor. Tabor is like a beer from the Czech Republic that's in a back corner of the LCBO that you never go to. Adam, second row, six down. What do you see? Kelton? Stop. How do you spell Kelton? How do you think you spell Kelton? how do you spell Kelton yeah with a sweater

tied around your waist boat shoes riding a horse yeah a polo a white horse has to be a white horse yeah it has a white horse

really high hiked shorts how do you spell it Kelton that's very funny K E L T

O N wow well done all claps got it got it I like the

The girl that's named Navy. It's always nice when you're named after a shade of blue. Or a division of a profession. Yeah. I think we have to. Navy of the Navy. Am I going to have to fight Rihanna to adopt this child? The Navy General of the Navy named Navy.

I don't know. She's an Army General. Gary Spelled G-A-R-R-I Gary What? Also

It's a girl That's why Oh This is my girlfriend Gary That's my dad's name I got Dude

I just want you to Consider yourself In the throes of passion With some of these names Oh Gary Oh no Oh Gary Alright Adam

First row One up Oh, Tabor! First row. You're just going to call him Tay. One up from the bottom. One up from the bottom. Oh, this one's a Star Wars name.

This one's definitely a Star Wars name. Tabor! I knew you would come. No, no, no. Cason. Definitely is. There's actually a Cason in Star Wars if you play one of the video games. There's a Cason Moore.

Just saying. Cason. Tabor. Poe Dameron. Yeah, oh my god. There's a lot of kids named Axel these days. I'm seeing a lot of Axel. Shout out Final Fantasy. There was a character named Axel. Was there? Oh, I thought it was Guns N' Roses, but yeah, maybe. King, no. Maybe Guns N' Roses. Blue King!

Axel! After Axel Rose! No, idiot! Character from Final Fantasy! Could've fucking loser you! The eighth one! It was on PlayStation, the original PlayStation! Jeez! It's clearly from that It's like a video game Full of guitarists

Oh my god, Jesse What do we got? There's two more that I love I gotta find them Is that a guy or a girl? It's a girl And it's not Holland, it's Holland H-O-L-L-E-N

Like haul in this backpack full of weights around? Yes, haul in it Is their bum their Holland ass? That wasn't very good. You've never heard Hall and Ass? I thought it was good. I don't mind that.

I don't mind that. I'll give you that. I'll give you that. It wasn't an immediate click See, Adam comes up with sayings that your 64-year-old aunt knows. So I figured he would be on my side in this one.

So thanks, Dad. Jesse's too young Let's just keep trucking, you guys. Let's keep watching. I like the... Don't look at a gift horse in the mouth, Jesse.

We have a whole show named that. Last row, Jesse. Five down. Huckson stop you can't imagine that's a guy's name so imagine

your throes of passion Huckson Huckson that feels great H-U double X-O-N just uh no

just the one one X oh we don't want to get crazy it should be three X's yeah it should be it should be Huckson

Huckson and the uh shout out the twenty twenty eight polo water polo team

at Harvard truly featuring Augustus Hawk I assume Brayden Hawk

Harper I assume Brayden and Jack Jack's fine two Jacks that's fine yeah

I thought I'd give him a little shout out also Sawyer probably on that team there's a Hawk and a Sawyer like I can't wait for like

when we're doing this bit in like four years and we're talking about like oh So, from the main lacrosse team, we have Dr. Pepper. In net, we have Sprite and Pepsi. Like, we just go through all the friggin' bops. Stupid!

This was our most upvoted question on our Reddit page this week. We did the show a little early, so we didn't have as many questions. But this one, people seem to love. They want us to know, What is Smart Insider Man thinking about all the recent trade rumors? How soon will the truth come out? Well, I'd have to ask him. Should I say this again?

What is Smart Insider Man thinking about all the recent trade rumors? How soon will the truth come out? I think, you know, Smart Insider Man, for some reason, has taken the last eight months off. In search of the truth, Adam! I mean, the truth does take time. So I'm wondering when Smart Insider Man is coming back. You know when Batman went into the cave?

Mm-hmm. To learn all his Batman shit? No, not the Batcave. The one from Batman. The one with Liam Neeson. It's like Batman went into a cave. The one with Liam Neeson. I'm not talking about the Batcave.

What's his name in that, too? It's like... Ra's al Ghul. Ra's al Ghul. Yeah. Who is also one of the baby names that we skipped over. Ra's al Ghul. We skipped over Ra's al Ghul.

Yo, if you're ballsy enough to name... This is my daughter, Ra's al Ghul. If you're bossy enough to name your kid Ra's al Ghul, I give you a high five for that. That's amazing. This is my son, the penguin. So yeah, do we think we're going to hear from Mr. Sim soon? Listen, you know, it's been really cold recently. But I've been told that the trade front, oh, it's heating up.

It's getting hot. You think so? And when smart insider man comes out of hiding or whatever you want to call it, he's going to come with a hot heaping pile of truth. And I don't know if you're going to be able to handle it. It's like that movie where they can't handle the truth sometimes. I think that was the title of the movie. The Lion King.

Can't handle the truth sometimes. That's The Lion King. Yeah. No, it's Toy Story, idiot. Oh, fuck. Oh, my God. Where Jack Nicholson's character goes, you can't handle the truth. Andy

Buzz I'm tired It's 10.30 Should we wrap it up? Do we ever record this late? Well we're gonna start By the way We're doing

No we're not Well we Well I don't think we have a choice I refuse Andy's dad From Toy Story Died of polio

We talked about this Why are you laughing? Because it was so ridiculous And I remember us talking about this On Kiss Oh yeah Because they picked the weirdest Andy's dad

Jesse That's the most tragic story He's crying With apologies to all those people dumb enough Not to get a polio vaccine by the way By the way Because the original writer Of Toy Story decided randomly

To add this back story And he told he's like yeah Andy's dad's never In there because he died of polio And nobody dies of polio That's why I was like what He gave his son this box of toys And Woody THAT'S THE SOUND OF SHIT I'VE EVER HEARD!

Is that- yeah, that's funny. I love that you're laughing about someone having- Somebody's gonna be offended by a fictional- Yeah, somebody's gonna be offended by you laughing at a fictional character having polio. Somebody will be offended, I can guarantee it. I just- I just love how, like, it was a snarky little thing amongst fans, like, Oh, where's Andy's dad at? Oh, he's never there. POLIO!

Guess what? Dead! Crippled. And dead. You insensitive son of a bish! polio it'll get ya oh my god if you're in the

Disney universe watch out it'll get ya yeah Disney writers have this ability to make you feel things and that's like

that's pulling a card man could've been like he died of something that would be natural causes these days

I had a heart attack playing hockey shall we know he got scurvy yeah you know He drank some bad water

And dysentery And died And he died He was playing Orgon Trail And actually died Their town got a really Bad rat infestation

And everyone died Of the bubonic plague Which is why They had to move so much You know Because it came aboard Rats from the Ottoman Empire

Came aboard Came aboard a ship Which ended up In Andy's town Ottoman Empire Well that's You know These are all, yeah, Toy Story is just like a fever dream of a child on a boat sailing the seas for the Ottoman Empire.

That's right. He's having a dream where in the future we will have toys of spacemen. By the way, didn't Edward Cullen die of something weird too? Edward Cullen from Twilight? I've never seen him from Twilight. I think he died of the flu in 1917 and the only way to save him. That was another ridiculous backstory The only way to save him

Was to turn him into a vampire Because he was dying So one of the vampires Sucked his blood To save him And that's how I think I'll just die No but then he meets Bella

And they have a super positive relationship You know Super positive Where he makes her a vampire If you're a vampire And you're 800 years old Is it weird When you're dating somebody

Who's in their 20s You're introducing her to your friends? Alright, there's a bit of an age gap. But they don't age. Several hundred... They don't age. But he gains the wisdom of an 800-year-old. Well, he's 100.

In my head. Right. I mean, yeah. You know what would really suck? At that point... The last half hour of the show. If you lived 800 years, you have no excuse not to be the smartest person in every room you walk into. Right?

So it'd be like, hey, did you see that? Yep. Did you know that? Yep, I did. Like, you read it. He also vampires don't sleep. So this guy stays up all night and reads shit and learns piano. I feel like, yeah, that wouldn't be very sustainable for the relationship

because would you ever listen to any input Bella had? I'm 800. Even if you say I'm 100. Tell me where to invest my money. Yeah. I know how this works. You know what? Yeah, let's just go with your instinct over my 800 years of experience.

How dare you? Literally anything you can say to them is condescending. So no, I didn't make the bed. But after 800 years, it doesn't matter. I come from a time where, listen, the first 500 years of my life, I didn't have a bed. I was sleeping with sheep in my bedroom. You know this is what they used to do, eh? They used to bring sheep into the house.

How the fuck do you know that? To keep the house warm in the wintertime. What is... In life? As late as 100 years ago, people used to bring their farm animals inside along with the heat from the fireplace to keep the whole place warm.

Isn't that nuts? That was also a really underrated scene in Toy Story. I remember that. I remember that. One more question. Good night, Woody. One more question. One more question.

Also, quick aside. I, Big Baller Jesse Blake, Sat glass Level how did you do that at the Rogers place? Yeah? I was one of you guys ever said class one time the NHL game. What is glass level like what? I was literally me and the glass and I was hitting the glass too much McDavid never I sat fifth row When I was like a kid my parents we were

Given tickets by like a neighbor or something we couldn't friggin afford that and it was for Leafs versus Ducks And the Leafs kicked their ass And I saw Wade Bielak Get in a fight It was great Never touched the glass though I saw Cujo's first game As a Toronto Maple Leaf

You son of a gun Wow And Thomas Caberly's I think first game too Like it was his first And Caberly was paired With Jason Smith I don't remember that

And they beat the Detroit Red Wings Two to one Wow Yeah And it was at Maple Leaf Gardens It was the last first game At Maple Leaf Gardens Bah

God damn it And the thing that That blew my mind Alright Adam The thing that blew my mind at the time was when players got hit, the amount of shaking the boards had. And that was one of the things the Leafs had invented that, like, Montreal had, like, hardcore boards that didn't move. And the Leafs had these boards that sort of moved. So their injuries were less.

And they found that they had to include that in the rest of the NHL. A woman a little bit further down our row, she was standing up and she was walking out. And a body check came right in, knocked her right in the shoulder. No way! She was okay, but it was funny. That's hilarious. Everybody around laughed. It was like, oh my god, are you okay?

And that was funny. That's really funny. So yeah, wobbly glass. That was a thing That was a thing That they used to have These hardcore boards That were just

Sorry, no give Brutal Yeah, they used to have Like chain link fence Yeah And polio And actual last question We're in so much trouble

For that one Are we? I don't think so With the polio crowd? No If you have polio Email us And let us know

Nobody's had polio And if you have Then you should get Get the vaccination Kids, okay? Come on Well, like Jim Jim Jeffries

is a comedian who I think is in his mid 30s and how how old would his mom be she had polio yeah my grandfather had it I think

members of various members of my family had it I think it was our it's not very trendy right now polio well no because the vaccine eradicated it and the only reason it's back

is people stopped getting vaccinated it's back? yeah oh so is the measles and the mumps and the black plague not the black plague

we have no vaccination against that I don't think anyway Oh, good. It's okay. The whole thing is it carries rats and mosquitoes and stuff. We're good. That was in Toy Story. Are there, this is also from the Reddit page, second most upvoted question,

are there more chairs in the world or people? Chairs. More chairs. Has to be more chairs. You have to think about underdeveloped countries. They don't have as many chairs as we have. Now, does a chair count if it's like, if you sit on a log, that's a chair, right? No.

No, it has to be built as a chair. Okay. You can sit on anything. Is a couch a chair? Yes. And that counts as one chair. A device specifically for sitting. So benches are chairs?

Yeah. Yes, there are more chairs than people. Now, I would wager that there are more chairs in North America than there are people in the world. Because we have so much shit. We just have so much shit. Think about a person with a big house. You got a dining table. You got a kitchen.

You got a living room. You got upstairs chairs in your bedroom. You never use them. And let's say you go to school You got 30 chairs in a classroom A school! You know what, you changed my mind How many chairs do you sit in in a day? We're sitting in chairs that are not ours right now

There might be 13 chairs for every human being There might be a lot of chairs Yeah, even more than that Can I go home? Let's keep asking questions so Steve can't go home I'm gonna get home at like almost midnight Yeah, that's okay

I mean, what are you doing tomorrow? I know nothing what the fuck are you worried about see Adam and I have work tomorrow yeah

Jesse's got his first day with Kevin Sitt tomorrow I got my first day on my new job I beat the threes circuit

and now I need to get three stars on every team well I need to go play Battlefront too but whatever oh cool I was hanging

with my friends that's all well when you leave here in eight minutes and get home in ten you let me know

how Battlefront goes Adam well I have to let my friend Steve out first so Stephen anyway

hey thanks so much for listening happy 2018 we really truly do hope that you have a wonderful year and uh we're excited to be back and we will be back with a new podcast recorded wednesday night so it'll go up late wednesday available for you thursday so if you normally listen on a friday you'll be able to listen a day early the day the the way it's going to work this month is the leafs are playing a lot of games monday wednesday or tuesday thursday we're going to try to uh record on the days that they're not playing um and of course we are now recording in the evenings because of Jesse's new gig, so we're going to be

playing around with the days a little bit, and I know that's a little bit frustrating for you, but expect them Monday, Tuesday, and then Wednesday, Thursday. And then the days we record will be around 11.30 upload. Yeah. Like half the time you're going to get the podcast earlier than you're used to, so sorry about that!

Yeah, actually, all the time. All the time. No. Oh no, you're right. Also not correct. There we go. If I just walk out of the studio... You're the one that wants to end the show. See you next time. To be fair, you did say a backpack.

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