The Steve Dangle Podcast - NHL Free Agency Reactions 2026

Episode Date: July 2, 2026

0:00 Bowen Byram Extension 9:17 Werenski Update 20:30 Greer Signs With Ducks 29:22 Nick Robertson Trade 38:00 Nico Hischier Extension 46:25 Ivan Demidov Extension 51:27 Zellweger Extension 57:3...1 Gudas Back To Florida 1:07:00 Andersson Extension 1:17:50 Mason Marchment To Sharks! 1:26:00 Kings Flurry Of Moves 1:36:00 Mikheyev & Viel to Tampa 1:45:30 Leafs Land Roslovic 1:56:32 Trouba To The Sharks! 2:04:40 Jets Add Skinner! 2:14:00 Oilers Acquire Devon Levi! 2:23:50 Leafs Add Blueger & Sissons 2:43:39 Leafs Trade For Nick Paul Watch all episodes of The Steve Dangle Podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLk7FZfwCEidkgWpSiHVkYT7HrIzLPXlY Watch clips of The Steve Dangle podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLk7FZfwCEieOJuIrqWyZPWSIJtVMCbLz Buy SDP merch https://sdpnshop.ca/ Visit https://sdpn.ca/schedule to see when our next live stream airs! Check out https://sdpn.ca/events to see The Steve Dangle Podcast live! Watch hockey with us! Live on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLk7FZfwCEifCTX0vkKEaGg9otrW4Zl2k Subscribe to the sdpn YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@sdpn?sub_confirmation=1Join Subscribe to SDP VIP!: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0a0z05HiddEn7k6OGnDprg/join Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/thestevedanglepodcast Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sdpvip/subscribe - Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Join us on Discord: https://discord.com/invite/MtTmw9rrz7 For general inquiries email: info@sdpn.ca Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Watch all episodes of The Steve Dangle Podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLk7FZfwCEidkgWpSiHVkYT7HrIzLPXlY Watch clips of The Steve Dangle podcast here: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLk7FZfwCEieOJuIrqWyZPWSIJtVMCbLz Buy SDP merch https://sdpnshop.ca/ Visit https://sdpn.ca/schedule to see when our next live stream airs! Check out https://sdpn.ca/events to see The Steve Dangle Podcast live! Watch hockey with us! Live on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLLk7FZfwCEifCTX0vkKEaGg9otrW4Zl2k Subscribe to the sdpn YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@sdpn?sub_confirmation=1Join Subscribe to SDP VIP!: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0a0z05HiddEn7k6OGnDprg/join Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/thestevedanglepodcast Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sdpvip/subscribe - Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Join us on Discord: https://discord.com/invite/MtTmw9rrz7 For general inquiries email: info@sdpn.ca Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:10 download that. TaskRabbit.ca. Code Dangle. Two in five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar raised matters. On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation Walk. Challenge yourself friends and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research together we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer register today at pmcf walk.ca well well well we finally find out the details of the bowen byram situation and baby he's gonna be a black hawk a long time for a lot of money but key detail doesn't start till next summer bo byram signs an extension six years 12 and a half million per year that is a lot of money
Starting point is 00:02:01 uh for bo byram however is there some some some hidden value in this with the with the cap going up i'm just listen let me spin it positively as much as i can right now because i know where you guys are going 75 million dollars cap is going up a lot next year it's already gone up a lot this year the blackhawks have a plenty of room i mean 11 is this a big deal wow say that one more time louder is this a big deal no no no steve it's 11 of the cap that is crazy that is unbelievable and here jesse let me let me make it even crazier his contract and mitch marner's contract expire on the same day seven years from now
Starting point is 00:02:48 and Byram's going to be making more than Marner in five of those six years. That's insane. Do you want to... Actually, no, sorry. Six of seven years. You guys want to hear a crazy stat?
Starting point is 00:02:59 Sure. Bo Byram's the highest paid defenseman in the NHL. Currently. No, he's not. At the start of next year. Yeah. Right now.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Wow. Now, Quinn Hughes will sign his extension. We'll know what that will sign. But it won't kick in. Wierenski. Wierenski one day will sign an extension next year uh kale mccarr's extension's coming up but right now he is right
Starting point is 00:03:19 now i believe the highest paid defenseman in the united as of like people on the book on the book for the start of the 27 28 no 26 27 28 season correct what you're talking about right now he's got the highest defensive contract that's that's wrong that's incorrect how to run your team Bo Barman's never been the number one defenseman on his team last year. I don't know. Has he ever been number two? He was. Yes.
Starting point is 00:03:48 So last year he was third on the Sabres in ice time. Two years ago, he was second. And three years ago, he was third. Like, listen, the argument that I was given by a Blackhawks fans,
Starting point is 00:04:02 and there's some validity to it is okay. They give up the fourth overall pick for him. He's the fourth overall pick and he's already developed. And no, he's never once had the duties of the person that you want him to be. Can he do it? I honestly, I think he could. Yeah, I really do. But the evidence, the evidence doesn't support it.
Starting point is 00:04:32 The evidence does not support that he can do this. He's never done it. Maybe he will. Maybe he will. he had 42 points last year 11 goals best season of his career um he's had an injury prone career but back to back 82 gate uh 82 game seasons 7 points in 13 playoff games i i personally liked watching him uh in that series i streamed buffalo montreal even though it didn't go buffalo's way you gave up the fourth overall pick plus and now you're giving him 11 of the cap yeah i want to say
Starting point is 00:05:04 this boy i want to say this voice okay all right so this goes really well and it's and connor bedard has a great season and beau byram has a great season and spencer knight has a great season i still don't see chicago making the playoffs yeah this isn't a playoff scene like i think there's enough evidence that we know that they're still they're still in their rebuild era and they need a lot more help than this this is a start like getting a player like beau byram in there is something they need right at that price i don't agree with it and they've said this before but the price for bo bryam should be in the casey middlestad area because that is literally what he was traded for so we know what his value is i don't know how that's a few years ago that's a few years
Starting point is 00:05:47 i think there's enough hindsight that we can acknowledge that's just a bad trade by colorado it's a bad trade it is it is it is you know i don't know i don't i don't think his values jumped that much but back to the blackhawks point this is what they need like this isn't on dumping on um bo byram like he's a good player i feel like it's just a little too much but if you're not worried about being a cap strap team if they're not at the limit of the salary cap maybe this is all irrelevant yeah if they have 10 extra million dollars in space for the length of this deal it then who cares well and if the cap's going up by 10 every year roughly uh it doesn't i mean does it matter and that's and that is i mean that's got to be their calculus one thing i want to
Starting point is 00:06:28 point out guys is this is a very expensive contract and when you and i'm going to repeat elliot friedman's story about chicago's pro scouting staffs and you guys can back me on this i said when this trade happened i said to you guys in the group chat i'm like somebody in that organization was dying to get this guy because this is this is crazy what they gave up just the value they gave to buffalo was a lot right and now with this contract i'm like that is a fortune to turns out the the amateur scouts really wanted to draft him fourth overall uh they drafted doc instead and he's been their white whale that was 2019 i know but he's been their white whale and they finally got him back and this is this is what happens when you know and listen the walls
Starting point is 00:07:12 talk in the nhl if if that was something that chicago wanted to do and they feel like they made a mistake darren ferris is going to drive him to the wall on that one but that was driving the trade i don't even know that you've made the trade you have to make the extension why is that your white whale bo byron he wasn't even the best defenseman picked in the top 10 there was a better defenseman picked after him it was more at cider who would you rather have by room or side if you're i know my answer if your white whale wasn't more at cider and you had the fourth overall pick yeah then i then i question yes that's a good point like i'm not even saying oh bad pick or whatever like byram was supposed to go that high uh cider was a reach at six i remember but
Starting point is 00:07:50 it's it was seven years ago all right if if we're using hindsight here why don't we use seven years of hindsight that cider's a better player so let me whom by the way makes far less now can i ask you guys a question i don't know man one last thing before we wrap up here what conditions need to exist for this to be a good deal winning he winning yeah winning helps winning uh the goaltending is solidified by night the forward group which is substantial the young forward group that they have around bedard helps the damn kid and bedard uh bedard byram anchors that decor and makes it so that they don't hemorrhage every night like here's the hole that they got to dig out of they were 31st last season with 72 points they were five points
Starting point is 00:08:43 behind a third last and they were minus 62 that's the hole you're crawling out of right so i mean so let's say because jumping up any spots in the nhl is always difficult right sure let's say they jump up to 22nd in the league that's a huge that's a leap in the in nhl terms it's enormous right that still puts you well out of the playoffs unless you're in the western conference which they are which could put you right in the playoffs you have 18 points you could have the entire atlantic division finish ahead of you and you still make the playoffs you have 18 points between where you finished and the final wild card in the east that's nine wins the hardest thing to do in the rebuild process is build back up kyle davidson has proven that he can strip this thing
Starting point is 00:09:31 down to the bone and they've done that and they got bedard and that's one of the also hardest parts to do is get that superstar player but the hardest part is to build it back up it's it's it's easy to tear it down but he hasn't proven that he's had this ability to build the team back to where it should be and i'm still waiting for it did i call the wrong team the red sabers there's room there's room there's room for more you're right jesse yeah and i think you got to find it it can't be sabers anymore it's gotta be something else it does the sabers are the biggest beneficiary here but what jesse just described is the 2010 sabers yeah that's that's what he just described is this team that stripped it down maybe too far did get some uh lottery luck
Starting point is 00:10:16 like did get some look at the players who went through buffalo look at some of the players in chicago you want to make people angry do you want to make every blackhawks fan angry watching this let's start this i mean we've already done it let's go for it all right all you all you blackhawks fans out there hate steve dangle because he just said connor bedard is your jack eichel he's gonna win a cup of vegas oh and that's a good place right but now sdp don't worry we'll be doing uh uh all this all day we're gonna be doing videos all day for each and every signing and of course we've got our live stream starting at 4 30 correct is it 4 30 yeah 4 30 4 45 all right somewhere in there just be on the lookout for it we love you all let's get going july 1st
Starting point is 00:10:59 baby zach warinski we don't know when this video will be out of date it might be by the time we post it but we thought it might be smart because it's considered he's probably the biggest name on the trade board right now to do a video the reigning norris winner yeah uh do a video tell you what you know and it it came out over the last few days that there was a few teams zach warinski would be willing to accept a trade to dallas stars were thought to be among those teams Toronto Maple Leafs names have come up, and obviously the Tampa Bay Lightning are in there too. And it's not been a fun couple of days in Columbus
Starting point is 00:11:35 because they had a strong season, but the end of it went poorly. And then they missed the playoffs, and Wierenski and Kirill Marchenko over the last three days have said, we're not going to play here anymore. Nightmare. And that is a nightmare. That's brutal. That's worst-case scenario stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:52 So obviously, right, Columbus is trying to maximize their return. The shock last night was that there was a deal in place with the Dallas Stars, which apparently, guys, would have included Olympian, Canadian Olympian Thomas Harley. And yeah, and the important context there is he's about to begin an eight year deal at just shy of ten point six million, which based on what we know, where we know contracts are going is a very cost controlled deal for a player of his caliber. and that trade was vetoed yes and apparently it turned ugly between the agent and the in the team last night uh it valiant freeman said it was a messy situation um messy means that there was probably some swear words uh okay so let me ask you guys this um and oh also the one last thing i want to add is that darren drager has said this morning on first up and on twitter that uh the The Toronto package does not include Matthew Nyes.
Starting point is 00:12:52 That's insane. That's insane. So here's the question I would have is if Zach Rurinski really wants to come to Toronto, which it seems like he's open to, which is a great surprise. You know, there was that narrative out there about Americans not want to play in Canada. And Toronto's too tough. I don't think it's too tough for Zach. If this is the only place he wants to play, he's got a full no move. The Leafs can, due to the Columbus Blue Jackets a little bit here, what the Florida Panthers did to the Ottawa Senators.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Is that how Nize is not included? So let me give you a different example. Okay. Liam Greentree traded from LA with a conditional third round pick in 2026, which was used in a conditional fourth round pick in 2028 for Artemi Panarin. man that deal stinks but it's because panarin would only go one place panarin panarin panarin same panarin artemi yeah um when a guy is only going to go one place what are you supposed to do i don't know yeah i don't either i don't know like all things considered like i know a lot of people really didn't like the auto return all things considered
Starting point is 00:14:11 they did good they did they did very well and then they parlayed it into stuff that helps them now and later i think they did really well there what evidence is there that columbus has any idea what they're doing well i don't know that there's evidence that there isn't i mean jess do you think that would you say don waddell i mean he's not clearly not in the driver's seat but he hasn't made a bad deal yet no and they were building something special i think they were getting closer to the playoffs like they were last year in the end they they just don't make that final push but i think they've been good so far in terms of their rebuild and it's sad that it's reached this place but he has his hands tied behind his back now it's the control it's out
Starting point is 00:14:52 of his control because wierenski said he's not coming back after these two years so he has to make a choice here it's i'm going to make a maybe mediocre deal with toronto or i might lose him for nothing here's uh you know to your point about waddell he hasn't made a bad deal yet kevin adams built the buffalo sabers yes he did kevin adams yep he built the division winning buffalo sabers went to the second round should have gone to the third um but it's a culture thing people didn't want to be a saber um they had a horrible time being a saber and then when they heard he when they heard he was leaving not even he'd been fired yet when they heard he was leaving they go on this completely crazy win streak that they never look back from maybe that's what's going on
Starting point is 00:15:41 in columbus like that was a team i think we all saw on the rise and we were like what a great story they completely collapsed at the end of the season aaron portzline went really hard at both worensky and marchenko yes who who disappeared who disappeared down the stretch when they lost out on their playoff spot and it's harsh but it's just true and and fair um they just re-signed a cantankerous 72 year old coach who loves to rip his team postseason yeah and i think uh at very least those two significant players your norris winning defenseman and your leading goal scorer were like you know what enough of this jesse how do you react to this rick bonus was asked yesterday by uh aaron port's line about this rick bonus being the 72 year old coach that
Starting point is 00:16:28 Steve was mentioning. I'm as shocked as anyone that these that this came up. I mean, at the end of your meetings, we looked at each other in the eye and had a great meeting and gave each other a hug leaving and all that. So everything was good. So when this all broke, I was shocked and caught off guard like everybody else. I think there's a little bit of fibbing there because Zakarensky, by all reports, has been making his intentions clear where he's not going to be back in two years time when he's allowed to not be back. But that doesn't mean he wouldn't have played out the last couple years in Columbus very happy it's the same thing with Brady Kachuk to be honest he was willing to stick around in Ottawa for as long as it took that he was under a contract and he had
Starting point is 00:17:06 to play so it doesn't mean like oh he hates his coach and he's not going to hug the guy he's going to play with next season if that's the decision they make so I assume they did have a hug and they were all hunky-dory there because he's like I might have to come back here and play so we're on good terms but he was very clear to Don Waddell I don't want to be here past the time I have to be year can i tell you what i don't like about it okay the look at each other we looked at each other in the eye the implication there is you look me in the eye we're telling the truth we're we're we're we're sharing we're we're breaking bread we're having a conversation it's man to man and it's real um zach barinsky has given 10 great years to the columbus blue
Starting point is 00:17:46 jackets and i understand fans being upset that he vetoed a trade to dallas and they're not getting harley back oh i that i very much understand i i get that as a lease fan that's the better package a hundred percent i know so no one's going to be upset but what i would say fans being upset is completely rational and reasonable what i don't understand is a head coach going the implication there is that he lied well there's pr there from the columbus side of things they don't want it to look like they fumbled this situation they want it to look like hey you got to boo this guy because he's asking out and he lied to us so i understand the spin from the organization standpoint i'm not buying it like i think zakarensky's in his full right to exercise his
Starting point is 00:18:28 no move and not go to texas because that's what he negotiated his contract i know you want harley but you should be mad at your team for giving him the no move that allows him to turn down harley coming to the blue jacket and i am also surprised that he is like no i don't want to go to the dallas stars i'd rather be a toronto mapley he's an east coast guy yeah he wants no he isn't he's Well, he's from Michigan. Yeah, he's... Where are we counting the East Coast? East side.
Starting point is 00:18:54 He is a Great Lakes guy. Okay, there we go. When I say East Coast, I kind of just refer to the Eastern time zone. You're not wrong, by the way, though. There's a coast along the Great Lakes? Yeah. He's a Lakes guy, is how we'll put it.
Starting point is 00:19:10 Hell yeah. And he wants to stay in the Eastern Conference in that time zone because that's where he spends his summers. And Tampa and Toronto are good choices. When people play here, they they are adored it's one of the greatest sport cities in north america oh like why i don't want to come back jesse i don't understand why people are shocked that somebody would want to
Starting point is 00:19:30 play here with his agent buddy uh austin matthew well you don't want to run into mark masters every day the the lakes i just typed in lakes by dallas texas they're not they're not very big no they're not anyway there's not lake ontario this could also turn into tampa gets him and we're all well that's the thing so the tampa package that's a pretty big coast probably better than toronto's as well because it might include likely to include a signed long-term and emerging jj moser yes makes about like six seven point six point seven five or something like that it's like it's below seven uh for sure and it's yeah long-term deal it's not thomas harley that's the second for columbus yeah but jj is pretty good puckpedia has him as janice jerome moser well that's what
Starting point is 00:20:16 jj had absolutely no idea but he's about to begin an eight year 6.75 million dollar um deal yeah and that's a left shot who can play the right side uh is moser so there at least there's like versatility there um but it's not getting back to thomas harley but you think like okay it's moser plus a couple pieces and tampa has more draft picks to work with than toronto tampa actually shockingly has a decent amount of picks they have their 28 9 and 30 first round picks nice and then a whole set of seconds that they can throw in there but columbus i assume wants more nhl ready players yes so that they can stay competitive and also let's be honest they can't offer that they can't they can't outside of knives they can't uh but they but the 28 29 and 30 draft picks are
Starting point is 00:21:03 likely to be close to second round picks anyway so i mean like let's be honest i mean no one julian breezewell yeah we gotta rate those where they should be right i mean as much as they haven't gotten far in the playoffs last few years and i think injuries and luck and all that has played into it um they've been an elite regular season team and that's where it matters when it comes to draft picks and and jesse you nailed it i think i think columbus absolutely wants people now step in the lineup now and they should that is the right mind they can't be a feeder system for the rest of the week. Yes, I totally agree.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Totally agree. Now, I wanted to take the Dallas angle on this one, but because there's emerging news this morning, I'm going to hold on that. No. So we will have
Starting point is 00:21:39 a Dallas video coming because I want to talk about the Jim Neal angle of this and of Jason Robertson, but we can save that for another video. SDPN's free agency coverage continues.
Starting point is 00:21:49 Don't forget, today, 430 and 445-ish. That's when we're going to start our live stream, Eastern Standard Time. Great Lakes time, we call it. Detroit time.
Starting point is 00:21:59 We'll be doing our live stream as we always do to kind of wrap up the day. And I'm sure there'll be some signings that are announced then, too. Until then, be on the lookout for more content. Sometimes life throws your curveballs and you don't have time to get to them. And that's where TaskRabbit comes in. And I think you should check this out because here's the deal. One of the things, one of the weird quirks about my condo building is that they use my floor to rappel down and clean all the windows. But they never clean my windows.
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Starting point is 00:23:29 On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation Walk. Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research. Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcfwalk.ca. So the Anaheim Ducks entered today with 40-ish million dollars to spend. They spent a little bit of it last night on A.J. Greer. And I want to talk about that deal. And then I want to talk to you guys about the space that the Ducks have because it's a bit misleading.
Starting point is 00:24:06 First, though, A.J. Greer, we know him well in Toronto as the guy who busted up the Maple Leafs in the second round a couple of years ago. What a series change once he got in. He's a very effective role player, but he's going to be making. Are you ready for this? okay this is a guy with 32 points last year career year 4.25 million dollars four years and a modified no trade clause that gives him a 10 team no trade list basically the canada buffalo no trade it's right and i gotta tell you that's a lot of money for i mean he was going to be a free agent and they flipped his rights obviously to to the ducks for radko gudas's rights um florida
Starting point is 00:24:44 has yet to sign gudas but you look at this guys and you go that's what ufa non that's not even a prime position he's a left winger he's gonna make that is crazy i'm like is that your jeff vl replacement are you pairing him with jeff vl like what is that i would i'd pair them together it's crazy how like when i saw that deal my first instinct wasn't to criticize the ducks for it because they have the cap space they're going to be fine um my first instinct was we are not ready for tomorrow we are our brains are not going to be able to compute yep the numbers that guys are signing it's going to be crazy now he is i maybe he got lost a little bit because he was on the florida panthers and he just sort of blended into the evil crowd i don't think you understand how
Starting point is 00:25:39 belligerent this player is nikita zadorov brady kachuk tom wilson arbor jack i mark castellick those are the only players in the nhl who have more penalty minutes than aj greer over the last two seasons that's not a good thing no but i think a lot of hockey guys view it as yes it is yes it is in the playoffs it is it means he's gonna beat the shit out of you yeah right that's something that he enjoys doing is hitting you and beating the shit out of you shorthanded well this what is a seventh most at any yeah but you don't get that from minor penalties you get that from me i hope so they should we should have i can't actually check why do we not have advanced stats penalty breakouts effective penalties versus ineffective penalties you know what i mean
Starting point is 00:26:18 that would be a good stat at least i don't mind versus oh come on now hey jesse what do you think about this for the ducks you watched a lot of them with vegas in the playoffs and that's where what do we think i don't mind it actually i think uh he's he's kind of like a piece they need i I think that what he brings to the table is something I think the Ducks will be fortunate to have in the moments where they're up against a team like Vegas. Because they've been kind of adding around the young guys that they got through their dark years. And I think they've kind of arrived. And these are things you do when you arrive. You add guys like A.J. Greer just to supplant the edges.
Starting point is 00:26:53 I don't mind this deal at all, actually. Sorry to follow up. He's taken 119 penalties over the last two years. That puts him 10th in the NHL. uh 85 majors or sorry 85 minors 85 majors would be psychotic and uh 24 majors how many like where does he rank with the minor penalties uh minor penalties he's surprisingly far down actually okay yeah well he's not it looks like he's somewhere in the 30s or 40s uh major penalties uh he is 14th okay behind his florida teammate jonah gadjovich that's insane perfect that team's
Starting point is 00:27:35 so insane and they got more insane i hate it uh so greer gets the money now in in anaheim land it was 46 million dollars right or 40 at one point it's like 46 million or 44 million or whatever it doesn't matter what we have here are two very notable rfas cutter goche who is ineligible to sign a offer sheet and leo carlson who is eligible and it's funny because cutter gochi is a year older but i think leo carlson started earlier and those two players alone and i know there's other guys jeffrey vl who i really like jansen harkins they used a lot ross johnston they used a lot more than you'd think um so but those guys would not be priorities add to that john carlson has already said i'm not staying and they're having they've obviously made it to ufa and
Starting point is 00:28:18 Jake Truba has not re-signed. There's a lot of work to do. And I look at... 3D. Let's talk about that Carlson and Gauthier, that combo of deals. Because if Greer is at $4.25 million, I know I'm Leo Carlson and I'm a RFA,
Starting point is 00:28:35 but I also, through the games that I played in the playoffs, was the number one offensive chance generator in the National Hockey League. Extremely good. I would give Leo Carlson whatever he wants. I would give him $12 million. I think he might get $15. well i'm not kidding jason robertson turned down over 15 at 14 or 15 is my guess and that's a
Starting point is 00:28:53 center right robertson's not like that's this is your this is your prime time i think that's fine goche doesn't have quite as much leverage but he does have 40 goals but he does have 40 goals so let's put him at let's put them at a combined clean 27 million goche 13 carlson 14 and the funny thing about this for the ducks is that's kind of fine because they have 40 million dollars in cap space yeah they they can afford it but they can't i i think there's a perception oh they have 40 million dollars in cash because they can go out and do whatever they want they can go do some things but they don't have a decor and i think uh all that money's spoken for like they're there's a chance they're close to a cap team i think a hundred percent they're a cap team
Starting point is 00:29:35 throwing mintikoff's deal because he's also an rfa we're talking about all the rfas like he needs his deal and like that's your but like i feel like that's fine like i feel like you have the 40 million dollars to go sign the young guys that i was just referencing that you've got through all these years and now they're a playoff team it's mintikov it's carlson and gochie there's your 40 million dollars give it to them and then fill in the rest of your gap well there's some gaps there if you scroll down a little bit jesse who's under contract on defense jackson lacombe yep and then their next highest paid defenseman is drew hellison yep and tristan leno who was not playing in the playoffs last year then you've got true but ufa potentially on his way out heinz and
Starting point is 00:30:19 minchikov you can probably resign for a combined eight or nine million i think right minchikov i think i think a lot less than that um minchikov had a really breakout year once carlson kind of jumped on board but beyond that guys i mean i'm i look at this i'm like why did they trade olin zellweger i agree with you like yeah they've got a they got work to do here and that defensive core was really strong for them in the playoffs but it got a whole lot weaker without truben carlson there i do wonder about heinz six nhl games in the regular season but nine in the playoffs um he was good they these guys gotta spend they gotta spend and they should probably trade as well like do you really want to be building your entire decor through free agency this year
Starting point is 00:30:59 yeah i don't know yeah i i'm fascinated by what they're doing i don't totally i think we all agree they're a good team on the come up but i don't exactly know what they're doing right i just i have no concerns that when we start next year i'm gonna have them as a playoff team like i i feel like it's so easy here to just get your business done whether it's through trades or free agency i advocate heavy for the trading uh side of things because i think that's how you build your good team these days but we're talking about getting a couple depth defensemen here and you re-sign the guys who are future star or current stars for you that feels like easy business to just maintain the level of playoff team you are so i'm very like adam i'm on your i'm hopping aboard
Starting point is 00:31:44 your ducks train you are because i'm a little concerned with the with the uh with the defense issues like i am a little concerned that they're thinner vegas finished ahead of them they'll make it edmonton finished ahead of them i don't know who's net but they ought to make it um are the kings passing them are the sharks passing sharks maybe cracking flames canucks no no no if you have your concerns about uh the ducks decor then you should have even more concerns about the sharks yeah yeah they have like one they've signed to their decor and they're like get out of here lilligren and ferraro yeah yeah i don't need you it's crazy fire beware there that's real interesting you know what that defense core does make me wonder guys and this is just me being a
Starting point is 00:32:24 toronto guy morgan riley it does make me wonder about that because that's apparently one of his destinations that he would go to so we'll leave it there and as always uh our our coverage continues and we're going to do our live stream today our full podcast live stream 4 30 4 45 ish start it's going to be a wild day just saw another trade break so uh we'll have more conversations coming up here be on the lookout for the videos nick robertson is a pittsburgh penguin and yeah of course he is man save the line bart one more time i'll do this loves his guys absolutely adore them gotta catch them all dubious guys loves them absolutely loves them jesse your reaction when this trade goes through it's it's nick robertson for a fourth round pick
Starting point is 00:33:17 we don't even know what year yet but i'm going to assume that it's probably next year uh your thoughts on that my initial thought i just see the deal that he's finally traded in all honesty because that's what we're here to do just be honest with the audience i'm glad it's over it was a long saga of is he gonna be a leaf this year is now the time they trade him is he gonna make the lineup or they're gonna healthy scratch him and then after his healthy scratching he's gonna put up four goals and four nights and then he's not gonna make the lineup anymore and then he's down on the fourth line i'm kind of glad all that's over i am too it seems like they're trying to get away from guys that don't want to be here yeah and we had him in prison it was a lot of
Starting point is 00:34:01 noise for a depth winger yeah not a lie detected totally get it i will say this gave it his all every night you know what i mean 100 yeah this isn't a criticism on his game at all no i'm just talking about everything that came around it yeah nick robertson tried you are so right on yeah tried vaporizes pucks just the tremendous defensive liability like just wild wildly man can you imagine rolling a line of domey robertson mcmahon and all the time for two years caved man caved but fun scored so much oh they were fun they reminded it took me back to a time where uh tyler bozak and friggin kessel and jvr were running around and you're gonna be like wow that's a compliment no they scored a lot but they got outscored it's not they got outscored
Starting point is 00:34:57 by like kind of a wide margin so i i look at i look at this for the pittsburgh penguins and i go you know what and drew pointed this out to me i didn't realize how thin they were in the top six you actually could probably get top six uh minutes this year if you look at their death minutes in toronto right now well yeah but what i mean is that it looks like you know the way things are kind of shaking out you've got Crosby Malkin was playing a lot of wing last year but he can play center if you put him on the second line Nick Robertson can be a second line right winger with Evgeny Malkin and and then you on the other side you got Chetakov so that's a pretty that's not bad and we should say to Penguins fans like he played I think a lot more right wing than he
Starting point is 00:35:32 did left he did yeah and and and that's what I mean though is that you know uh and then you could also move Ben Kindle up if you wanted to but looking at that I don't know that Tommy Novak's going to be his centerman um it also pushes if if you know if malkin is to stay on the right side it would push justin brazeau down i guess which probably is where he should be on the fourth line do this pisses me off so much why why connor doer there connor doer who's been effective justin brazeau who's been effective and i have no doubt that friggin nick robertson's gonna be effective how many goals next year i think he finally gets 20 i think he might get 30 i do think he can score a lot i think he's i listen i had him pegged as a 25 goal guy i'm not saying
Starting point is 00:36:14 25 goal guy on a great team that guy can score the problem is getting enough ice time to score 25 or 30 goals and in order to do that you need to not be hemmed in your zone like the craziest fire drills of the year last year in a year that was full of them were his over the last two years were his and again he busts his ass every night you never see him take a shift off but his positioning in his own zone is so horrible that it it cost him opportunities like leave fans for years we're rooting for this guy let's go nick and then we just see him bumble and kick the buck around his own end for 90 seconds and you saw that happen enough times It was the one thing in a year, in an era where we were very much against most of the decisions Craig Berube made, where we were like, yeah, I understand.
Starting point is 00:37:13 So let me ask you this. Does this pave the way for the return of Eminem, Matthias Michelli, the Candyman? I mean, nobody calls him that. Michelli is just probably the better version of Robertson, though. Right. Like a defensive liability. I know his metrics are pretty good, but from what I saw, it wasn't great. He's a better playmaker, not as good of a goal scorer, but actually still effective.
Starting point is 00:37:41 Yeah, but do they go in a completely different direction or do they keep him? Because the thing about having Robertson and Michelli is they were both in different ways kind of the same thing, right? People are like, oh man, Michelli raked on the power play last year. A good team would not have Michelli on the power play, not on the first unit. Not on the first unit. And the reason he was on there was because they had so many injuries and they sucked. Yeah, second unit fine. I think they're going in a different direction.
Starting point is 00:38:04 Okay. Get the guys out of here who don't want to be here, whatever. Now, the return for Toronto isn't great. I mean, it's not noon yet. Maybe Pittsburgh signs him too. This is a 16-goal score, guys. I'm not kidding. And they got a fourth-round pick for him.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah. Do you care? He was going to go to arbitration, make a lot of money. Here's something I'm just going to remind people of, right? because toronto leaf fans like took a lot of heat this season running players out of town here's what people forgot or maybe don't realize we like our players we love our players i like the guys on the leaf yeah so i like have built a uh an admiration for nick robertson over the seven years that he's been in the leafs organization i don't know who that fourth round pick is yeah
Starting point is 00:38:54 right so i'm not gonna get overly worked up about hooray they got a fourth round pick now ask me in about 90 minutes when they replace him and i'm gonna be like i don't know that man right but right now he doesn't go here i have different feelings jesse what do you think about the trade return is this just clear it and be done with it i think it's an indictment on the past gms for not making this deal earlier because i think in previous seasons we would have seen him go for i think at least a third and michelle was a third maybe even a second round pick at his height yeah where nick robertson was at and i don't fault chica for having to do the deal now and only get that little i don't think it's and it's unfortunate that he has to wear that right exactly i don't
Starting point is 00:39:38 think it's chica's fault that he only got a fourth round pick i think it's the previous regime's fault for not moving off of this sooner if this was our inevitable end anyways i wish we did it earlier where his value was higher can i give you a sliding doors moment i heard a very strong rumor last year that robertson for chinakoff was going to be discussed and now they're playing together that's right chinakoff was pretty darn good with the pittsburgh penguins there over the years it felt like there were a lot of swaps like that you could have made for underperforming high draft pick for underperforming high draft pick around the league and nobody ever pulled the trigger and now that they've reached the point where hey let's pull the trigger it's it's underwhelming
Starting point is 00:40:24 and it's not his fault i'm saying this 25 joking this is brendan shanahan's fault no it is it is and you know the other thing is is that obviously the best time to trade a draft pick is right before the draft the best time to trade a prospect is when they've gotten to a few games look pretty good and you're going into a season right because that then it's like well he he could be something great we don't know and that gets people really intrigued boats a boat but the mystery box could be anything. That's the point, right? And I think the Leafs,
Starting point is 00:40:52 I think you make a great point there. The Leafs miss the boat on that one, literally. And you know what? They clear space. That third line needs to be completely rebuilt. We don't know what's going to happen with the defense. Is Morgan Riley going? Is somebody with the ZW coming in?
Starting point is 00:41:06 We have no clue, but... Zach Whitecloud? We will be checking. Could be. We will be checking in with you all day as these free agent signings break and also re-signings and also trades. Don't forget, live stream tonight
Starting point is 00:41:18 between 4.30 and 4.45, depending upon how the news day goes. We'll do a full podcast, break it all down live for you right here on YouTube. Nico Heischer, New Jersey Devil. For a very long time, we weren't sure we were going to get there.
Starting point is 00:41:31 And if Tom Fitzgerald was still the general manager, we probably wouldn't have. But Sonny Mata has come in and said, let's let cooler heads prevail. Let's do the intelligent thing. And the sign, the guy that we drafted so high in the draft
Starting point is 00:41:43 and is our captain and is 27. So high. And is a center. First overall. Yeah. well that's the point i can't get higher uh he is signed till 2032 steve have you seen the term i have not okay let me ask you what do you think the money is let's go um okay so that's their captain he's coming off a 82 game season 28 goals 30 assists 66 points two-way center though so you
Starting point is 00:42:07 don't necessarily go by those i'm gonna say pope byram just signed for friggin give me yours first give me yours first years for so it goes till 2032 yep uh so those years don't count oh i don't know you know the years now just guess the money just get to the point 13.25 he's gonna sign for the eichel number less less yeah 12.5 the byram number less 12 million the marner number less 11 million the uh dora fey of number more okay bring it up 11 and a half 11 7 11 7 for five years that's not a bad this is a guy by the way where the cap is a center where the cap is going that's wonderful that's an excellent deal now it's a 10 of the cap deal like right now or when it kicks in but who cares they get his prime years those five prime years 28 to 33 at 10 point
Starting point is 00:43:02 Sorry, $11.7 million, just a hair above what William Nylander makes. And he's a setter, plays prime position, and he's been fantastic for them. One more year at 725 and then they're still. Yes, exactly. So he'll be there. That's why I said it starts at 20, because I assume he's already had his birthday. But maybe not. Now, here's the thing.
Starting point is 00:43:19 We've got a guy here that almost left. And now you've got your front court essentially solidified. You've got Jack Hughes. You've got Nico Heischer. That's a pretty damn good one, too, if they're healthy. signed both signed a very good deals healthy though are they healthy jack hughes like especially where the cap is going i wonder if he regrets that deal he probably should have regretted it before the cap went up he makes eight million dollars for the next four yeah yeah that's jack
Starting point is 00:43:44 hughes yep like oh my god that's incredibly good to have jack hughes and nico he sure locked up for less than 20 million dollars for the next three seasons after this one is That's magic. Like, listen, Tom Fitzgerald did not do well in New Jersey. He did a terrible job. Yeah. That's unreal. Yeah, Sonny Matt has come in and he's trying to correct mistakes.
Starting point is 00:44:10 Because, yeah, you look at something like the Luke Hughes deal. Right now, that's an ugly deal. Like, even with the cap going up $9 million right now, hopefully he grows into that being a really good deal. But right now, you know, it's not pretty. But a move like this corrects those things, where you're saving so much on the cap on a really good Nico Heischer deal
Starting point is 00:44:30 that like those other deals are probably a bit of an overpay, but now everything kind of looks all right. And how about this? They got out of Markstrom's contract yesterday. Yes. And that is massive for them. What are they going to do in net?
Starting point is 00:44:42 We don't know. Yeah, they still need a goalie, but. That's not bad. And they also managed to get Boquist back in that deal too. I think like there is a. And Rodriguez. I think, yeah, and Rodriguez.
Starting point is 00:44:51 I think if Rodriguez is going to play center, you got Hughes, Heischer, Rodriguez down the middle. that's not bad man and it's not bad and who uh bocas play center oh bocas play can play some centers not always yeah this is a really this is shaping up to be a very interesting team and i again they have an obvious flaw at goaltending i think jack jack allen's a great backup and he signed forever but you've got to do something there uh they've got the money to do it and they got the time to do it now what do you think they need here when you look at this lineup obviously maddie if we can bring down my my picture there looking at the defense as well i mean it looks
Starting point is 00:45:25 pretty solid to me that they should have a good chance the four group still needs help to be i think a solid playoff team like i they're roughly penciled they're lightly penciled in right now like my eraser is ready because i still think they're gonna have to compete with a team like the islanders who were competitive for a lot of last season are only gonna get better i think with their young guys developing so i'm unsure if right now i have them in the playoffs because i think the four group still needs work metro's gotten a lot better right like i i was looking at that and I'm like, no, it's a playoff team. All right.
Starting point is 00:45:56 Well, obviously not Carolina. I'm not sure about Pittsburgh. I'm not sure about Philly. Washington's due for a bounce back. Oh, OK. Geez. All of a sudden, the Islanders, like you mentioned. And then you got to take sorry, New York.
Starting point is 00:46:08 If they're a wildcard team, they're competing with the Atlantic teams. Right. The Atlantic is stacked. So right. And they have the Philly thing. I forgot about like Philly was in the playoffs last year. One around. So we can't just can't count them out right now.
Starting point is 00:46:20 The devil, the devil's there in a hard place. everyone seems to be poo-pooing the idea of halibut going there and i think it's perfect it makes so much sense yeah yeah for them now what do you give up you tell me well i all these teams i think what we're finding is all these teams with these i can't ignore the fact that they're all american olympians they're not exactly getting a king's ransom like since fans were disappointed in the brady kachuk return and i think they did actually pretty well you know what i mean oh yeah so i think no matter what the hellebuck deal is uh jets fans are probably going to be upset devils fans are going to be completely jacked because they get one of the
Starting point is 00:47:02 best if not the best goalies in the league um but there's a gap here right so right now jake allen's their starter so their starting goalie for next season is going to be somewhere between jake allen and connor hellebuck like there's a lot of i have no idea what the solution is there yeah and in the simon nemish deal they picked up a first round pick that they can now flip to winnipeg for connor hello and it's a valuable one because we don't expect calgary to be great maybe they'll be better it's uh vegas's first oh it's vegas's first yeah oh then it's oh they stink it's the one they got in the anderson deal i think okay well they're about to fall off a cliff right lack of success lately right late late second late first round pick but they also
Starting point is 00:47:44 have their own first round pick too that they can move so they have options here and they also have two first rounds in 28 as well so as a part of that calgary deal uh because it was colorado 28 yeah that's the colorado one and their own so i'm all i'm trying to outline is new jersey has assets to work with if they want to go out and buy there are there are things they can do here that would be incredible if they were able to somehow turn that into hellebuck because i actually don't like the return they got for nemish two firsts and maybe a prospect two firsts but they're like two contending first it's Vegas and Colorado
Starting point is 00:48:16 throw those in the garbage like if Winnipeg will take them get rid of them the garbage in Winnipeg yeah throw them in the I'm not calling Winnipeg garbage but you Kevin Shevelday off could sometimes be referred to as that yeah I just want to say this it's amazing
Starting point is 00:48:32 to watch a couple of teams this year with new general managers completely change their outlook Toronto and New Jersey had a really depressing end of the season young gms with blood in their veins and and they've switched their general managers from olds to youngs i thought you were going somewhere else who else you have i thought you were gonna say nashville and christmas mcfarland well he's not like a young guy though oh but i knew gm new new listen they look better too and we will do a video on them
Starting point is 00:48:58 yeah no you're right jesse that's a good point jack i like i like the deals they've made 56 which is young by nhl absolutely but imagine you're basically a toddler if you're shika or sunny manna so oh my god you're barely a person so yeah so you know i you're right jesse i think that there are a couple of teams where i would have looked at that and gone i don't know what to do toronto and new jersey would have been one of them and boy do they look a whole heck of a lot better lots of reasons to be excited and free agency hasn't even opened yet but when it does we will give you all sorts of content we're going to be breaking down as many of these as we can and i know we'll get to most of them plus we got our live stream between 3 30 sorry 3 30 4 30 and
Starting point is 00:49:36 445. Somewhere in there is going to be our start time later on this afternoon to break the day's events down. And of course, there will probably be some signings and stuff as the live stream happens or just after, as is tradition. We'll see you on the SDPN YouTube channel. Hockey Agent One, who am I? You are gold star. He's not Smart Insider Man. He's Hockey Agent One. His name is Dan Milstein. And he got himself a nice little extension for his client, ivan demidoff eight more years at nine one two five per season that's nine million dollars that's pretty great but damn the montreal canadian salary cap picture continues to be phenomenal yo it's annoying so there's a lot of like canada narrative no one wants to play there and the taxes
Starting point is 00:50:23 and the blah blah blah all of these guys like okay dan with respect should fire their agent Like everyone on the Montreal Suzuki makes 7.8, seven, five Caulfield makes 7.8, five Slavkovsky makes 7.6. Demidov just signed for 9.125 Dobson at nine and a half. We'll skip over that one. Lane Hudson,
Starting point is 00:50:52 8.85. They're all getting robbed. All of them, all of them. crazy and here's the thing the extension doesn't kick in until next season so the montreal canadian still have 14.2 million dollars in cap space to work with it's funny it looks like it kicks in this season but it's because he makes 940 000 you just see a number starting with nine missing a zero that's right yeah it's mitch missing a digit jesse your reaction uh best team in the league
Starting point is 00:51:23 continues to make best uh god that's how i see this thing you guys had the wrong member of the sdp is the leaf fan yeah or as the habs fan damn it they they're like honestly like if matthew shaver doesn't exist this guy's probably winning the calder trophy um and you lock him up 20 goals last season unbelievable uh start to his career for for demidoff and like this is a comfy number and you see all of their their stars that steve outlined signed at really comfy numbers and as the salary cap goes up this deal is only going to get better and he's only going to get better as a player i think montreal is setting themselves up for a future where nobody is unreasonably paid which is an unreal feat in the salary cap era because usually you have those boat anchors on
Starting point is 00:52:11 your book but the way you look at all of the guys who they're committing to long term you're like i'm comfy at that number and they're going to be a cap team yeah and they're going forward going to continue to spend and if you want to look at it this way like the line a deal just came off the book and this is where they've allocated that money next season so they even have that free money to still work with this season you know so if you thought they were a good team last year with that boat anchor there this is now where that money is going and they're still that good team and the salary cap's going up so they're gonna have more room like what is there to complain about with how they're handling their cap i can't find anything to complain about they
Starting point is 00:52:49 still got a re-signed doc uh brett berard zach bulduke uh arbor jack eye it's totally totally you know what i love about they're gonna be fine canadians too is they had this goalie that carried them through the end of two series obviously the montreal series they had nine shots in game seven uh what was the game seven shot total in in buffalo like it was pretty low uh well i know the tampa one was like 25 to 9 yeah and then the buffalo one was similar right it wasn't great and he might not even be their best goalie right like fowler is it could be jacob fowler ace prospect like that is like what do you say like montembeau will be coming off the book he's been an effective player for them at times but like josh anderson making 5.5 hasn't
Starting point is 00:53:30 been very comfy for them it's annoying yeah you look at them just moving brendan gallagher to freeing up that money and that money is only going to be on their books for this season when his contract uh expires after next season so that's a good move and yeah they're set up for the future in so in every position yeah you know and like the lane hudson deal is my favorite deal in the nhl i mean he's joking but he's also not where's the line lane shouldn't have pushed for that deal he should not have pushed for an extension last summer and how about this prospect adam what do you think of this player um left-handed center 45 goals 83 points in 55 whl games does that sound impressive sounds pretty good cool he's a right-handed defenseman i lied
Starting point is 00:54:14 and who would that be bryce pickford 45 goals wow all right and they also have michael haji gg gg or whatever his name is that you know we don't know we don't know his name here in toronto no we don't possibly pronounce it properly uh he's apparently an untouchable Habs fans, so good news for you there. Free agent coverage continues on SDPN. It's a crazy day already. Lots of re-signings, some trades that we haven't even got to yet because we're waiting on extensions.
Starting point is 00:54:41 Lots to talk about, and remember tonight, our live stream's going to start somewhere in the neighborhood of 4 to 4.30 as we break down the events of the day happening, and of course I'm sure something will happen while we're on the live stream as well, so we'll see you there. Olin Zellweger will be a
Starting point is 00:54:56 Buffalo Sabre, we think, unless he gets traded, for the three more years. Good for him. can we tell can we tell the story about before we made this video so steve and i read the tweet and steve the tweet said what that he signed a nine million dollar contract three years nine million was the way it was which i misread as oh my god olin zellweger makes nine million dollars the sabers have lost their minds but uh no it's it's uh it's only uh 3.1 i believe yeah 3.1 million dollars that's a 9.3 million yeah that makes that makes sense that's a really good bridge contract for a guy that did not get enough ice time last year in anaheim to i think really
Starting point is 00:55:33 show what he can be the sabers clearly really believe in him he's only 22 he's 22 looking at the ducks blue line i don't know why they traded him no i don't understand that either and like the healthy scratch in the playoff stuff i don't bat an eye at it he's 22 yeah it was also a second round pick that you've kind of just kind of punted out the door you know 34th overall like close to a first from 2021 and an nhl player yeah now that i sit here i'm like yeah why did the ducks do that anton walberg who they got is a legitimate prospect they drafted uh jayden kurtz um out of the the ushl um those guys could turn into great pieces you know who could turn into a great piece is olin zellweger so i don't really understand why they did that but he's above all the saber
Starting point is 00:56:23 now and that's all that matters seven goals in each of his last two seasons 20 points and then 22 he only got into three playoff games but he managed to score a goal in an assist anyway um this is a great young player man yeah so looking back on the trade yeah you do recoup that second round pick but you made the zellweger pick in 21 so now you're 21 pick that you used all of these years to develop five years you know you grew this player into an nhl player now you're just repeating that cycle so if we that took five years another five years so now your 2021 second is going to take you 10 years to get to the nhl level that's very odd really odd relationship with their young players you're either in in so in forever or get the hell out or
Starting point is 00:57:06 get out immediately zgris drysdale zell wagger i might be missing oh mctavish that's a decent crop of guys imagine you still have those guys yeah yeah yeah you know but uh obviously they're doing well so who am i to criticize friggin uh uh the ducks and what they're doing and i think you can have questions you can have questions oh i have questions yeah but they're winning i've been the biggest one of the biggest advocates for buffalo sabers are having a really good off season and i think this just continues that yes like i i love this deal it's the the depth defenseman piece you know after you move by room it's something they've had to work on even the trade deadline moves of stanley and shen that's what they were trying to
Starting point is 00:57:54 solve so here you have zellweger who's 22 years old hopefully the depth defenseman and maybe he was going to move up in the lineup one day but with dolly and power they're probably not but this is the guy you've been looking for stable back there you're not searching for these guys anymore there's kekaline and solving another problem now go fill out the uh forward group if you need to and i don't know i really like buffalo this off season i'm i'm looking forward to their season upcoming destination buffalo buddy yeah destination like how can you not be positive about what they're doing zellweger crevier is going to be fun to watch crevier being the gigantic man that he is uh like even sam carrick is someone who they really missed in the playoffs like he was
Starting point is 00:58:33 such a good fit for them when they got them yeah this is a fun team malenstein they're getting younger too it's just unbelievable and all those young guys are just gonna grow into their games they missed host it's so weird to see buffalo making really good moves i'm still not used to i know i gotta adjust yeah but i but i hate it i'll tell you that as a leaf fan i hate it their cap space is running out a little bit they only have 8.6 million dollars in current cap space as of the recording so they may be in the mix for like the mid-level free agent here if they want to go free agent shopping but i could see another trade maybe happening yeah some depth signings too with that now do you think conor hellebuck's still on the table for the buffalo sabers
Starting point is 00:59:12 yeah if you're sending out money um that's definitely something they could fit and that would that would make that would catapult them into another stratosphere of contender like that would if you replay the montreal series they think they win that yeah right yeah that that is a very very interesting i'm keeping my eyes on that if you're cacaline and are you chasing that right now i think you got to right and and i maybe upl has to go i wonder could they not roll a hellebuck upl uh or hellebuck lion hellebuck lion's just so upl doesn't get it across the line is it upl and picks if i'm the devil's or the devil sorry if i'm the jets i don't know how stoked i am about that is it something like upl and quinn right and i don't know maybe pixel as well and they
Starting point is 01:00:00 have a pipeline of guys and they had the fourth overall pick all these all these teams losing guys like the sends losing kachuk american olympian the blue jackets potentially losing warrensky american olympian the jets potentially losing connor halibut american olympian larkin they oh yeah my god larkin but all those teams want to be better now they want parts that help them now even the sends who took exclusively futures flip them for help now right so upl quinn helps the jets now but at the end of the day you're replacing connor hell about yeah man yeah tough all right well we'll see what happens now sdpn's uh at free agency continues uh we're gonna have re-signings we're gonna have trades and we're gonna have videos for all of them and
Starting point is 01:00:46 don't forget our live stream tonight between 4 30 and 4 45 uh because we're not quite sure how it's all going to go today it's going to get crazy be watching the sdpn youtube channel for all of your updates big signings or resentings i suppose for the florida panthers one of them immediately off last year's roster the other one from the roster a few years ago uh we got a2 luster ryan and radco goodis now i want to start with uh radco goodis because the contract's just kind of funny have you seen the term on it yet yeah okay jesse have you seen the term i tried to avoid okay six years one and a half schmill per year i think this is actually phenomenal for florida and it's phenomenal for radco because here's the deal he ain't playing that whole that whole time it's a joke but well
Starting point is 01:01:29 it's not it's not who cares let it look like you know what here's the thing he's not playing the whole time he was happy in florida they missed him bring him back for the end of his career and then they're going to put him on ltir like the rest of these six-year contracts people acting like these guys are going to play into their 40s you are what universe are you living in like all those guys martian is another guy where i go come on they're gonna just put him on they'll put him on a six-year deal and he doesn't play the last six months younger than chris taniff yeah he just signed a six-year deal yeah like i don't know we all listen um it's not cheating we've no exactly so we've given vegas a lot of crap for doing stuff that is not nice and tactics that are
Starting point is 01:02:13 mean or rude or crude or whatever they're not illegal no they're not florida panthers have also done some things along these lines yep until the nhl does something about it signing brad marshand until he's 52 and signing radko gudas until he's 64 and signing all these guys who could be congressmen like uh until they they do something about there's nothing all these teams are going to continue to exploit there's nothing they can do about it because the pa is never going to let them 1.5 million might not even be league men by the end of this oh i don't think it will be and i but but and honestly who cares who loses here the the no one the the the team gets the player for the last to squeeze the last little bit of juice out of them the player gets to stay
Starting point is 01:03:03 the league and when they're retired quote-unquote because they'll be ltir'd um they will still make 1.5 million dollars good for them good for their family who cares right radko gudas i gotta say in division is great business for us and this is what they're yeah as long as he's as long as he's not trying to go for austin matthews knees yes jesse this is what they're signing radko gudas to do yeah like this is the peak of radko gudas anybody listen he never really had to pay for this no it's Radko Gruta screaming in the face of Joseph Wall. And that's what they want in Florida. They want him to be peak, you are an asshole on the ice,
Starting point is 01:03:39 and that's all you need to be. And by the way, that player behind him is Cali Yarncroke, who he was holding the stick of on this rush. It went uncalled, and it ended their season. And Cali Yarncroke did nothing. And the Leafs did nothing. And that's the Toronto Maple Leafs where you could get punked. Now, when we look at this, plus Garnett Hathaway, right?
Starting point is 01:03:59 Who spit on a guy. yeah they're they they're crazy people are gonna get what i always have to bring that up he hawked a loogie on eric goodbranson like the footage go watch the footage some people like he spit it no he spitted glock tour on eric goodbranson right in the fox did he spit on that thing he's 100 spat on that and then he started a meme coin yeah hey i i you know do you remember we had Dennis Marouk on who you can read from Sportsnet wrote an article or an article, a book about Dennis Marouk and Dennis Marouk scored 60 goals for the Washington Capitals one season in the 80s. And the reason that Ken wrote the book is that he's the forgotten 60 goal man, right?
Starting point is 01:04:42 He scored 60 goals in that season. He was third. Yeah. So Dennis came in, did the show. And one of the things we asked him about was the Philadelphia Flyers in the 70s. We said, what was it? Was the flyers flew thing real and he said absolutely players if you guys don't remember because you weren't alive i wasn't either players back then would be like oh i'm sick oh i gotta hurt groin because they didn't want to play the philadelphia flyers do you cough when you ever hurt yeah well when you're faking it yeah that was the joke you see when you're faking it yeah but what's the what's like is that gonna kind of exist with the florida panthers like florida and tampa are playing a preseason game oh i know even the argument that florida is going to be slow
Starting point is 01:05:25 even if that's true they're going to beat the shit out of you yeah you're gonna hurt man they're gonna beat your ass bennett both kachuks their second line is exclusively olympians yep what are what are we their third line is exclusively olympians it's lusterine and lindell marshand Yes, and we have to talk about Luster Reynon because he also extended, Steve. And that's not even talking about their decoy. I know. So, Gudis, I accidentally saw the extension. Luster Reynon, I don't know that deal.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Okay, I'm pulling it up right now. And, you know, Luster Reynon, let's just talk about while I bring it up here. Let's talk about what he brings to this team. Do not look up his salary because I want you to guess. Okay. Okay. What does he bring to this team? What is he for this team?
Starting point is 01:06:12 He's a great two-way center. he's able to contribute offensively um really really capable on a shutdown line i keep going dell luster ryan and marshan man i keep up in nightmares i keep going back to this uh you know paul maurice credits the panthers fourth line for turning the 2025 series against the leafs around he's lying it was the i mean they did well but it was lindell lusterine and marshan getting matched against matthews who was kicking in barkov's teeth he was beating barkov like pretty considerably. They were on the verge of sweeping these guys and they lost
Starting point is 01:06:46 the series. All right, Jesse, have you seen the term? Yeah, I got it ready to go. Okay. Steve Dangle, do not put it on the screen yet. Don't put it on the screen. I didn't see it. I didn't see it. One more time. Steve, how many years? How much money? Eight.
Starting point is 01:07:01 Eight years? Eight years. Or did you say eight million? No, no, eight years. Eight years. Okay. You are correct. Oh, hot damn. Five mil Nailed it No way I swear to god I swear on Max
Starting point is 01:07:18 I swear on my dog Puckpedia Five years extension Where does it say that Right there Jesse that's a Puckpedia logo It doesn't say that Change your name Steve Cheater Dangle
Starting point is 01:07:34 I swear on my puppy dog Steve Cheater. Hey, Steve, that deal kicks in next year. It doesn't even kick in this year. And it takes him to at least 36. What do we think about that? Okay, there's a world where in a few years, the Panthers are the most disgraceful.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Like that? Awful hockey team we've ever seen. Unlikely, but yes. But we don't live in that world. We currently live in a world where they are, everyone needs to cope the oh they're slow ladies gentlemen they are stanley cup contenders they are going to be win or lose a miserable night for your hockey team i'm not sold on their goalie tandem at all yeah i'm not sold on that like that's a insane like if you're gonna go from
Starting point is 01:08:29 the last time they won the cup which was bobrovsky stallers and stallers led the league in safe percentage and bob is bob this is a tremendous downgrade like i'd markstrom has been pretty consistently going downhill but they've got a great goaltending staff there they do they do but you're you're asking markstrom to have the best season he's had in five years can you tell the story about how he built your content series he bloody built steve's dang it he is the reason for the saying if you're a goaltender 10 the goal because when he's in the net he stops the puck or at least that's the way it used to work you got to remember we started this series pre-covid but he when he was in the net stopped the puck and then you were good to get a scoring chance
Starting point is 01:09:16 from him just playing the puck in the corner like a stooge once a night yeah and it got to the point where like drew and i are working on these videos and i'm like this is the well that never runs dry yeah this guy he's one of the worst pocket handling goalies i've ever seen and i remember somebody i think it was a member of our discord or somebody just on a comments did the stats of how many times the goalies were featured in a dang it's that year yes second place had had three yeah and marsham was up to like double digits i think it was eight eight but like it was still it was more than twice as much like renee was kind of bad dubnick was kind of bad at times But you couldn't trust otherworldly.
Starting point is 01:09:55 Stay in your frigging net. So I'm unsure of that goaltending situation too. And we know that goaltending is something that can sink you. If you just can't get a save, like it doesn't matter how good your defense or forward group is, that can just screw you completely. But I think they'll be able to get enough out of Markstrom to do enough so that this team is going to be fine.
Starting point is 01:10:15 I think you can doubt that Panthers goaltending staff at your own peril. Until I see evidence that they can't do it, I'm going to believe that they can. And I think that's why they made the move that they made. Bob Brofsky, free agent, been linked to the Toronto Maple Leafs. We'll see. Now, our coverage continues all day long. Anytime there's a signing, a re-signing, a trade, whatever,
Starting point is 01:10:36 we're going to be all over it. And we got our live stream later on today between 4.30 and 4.45 is our expected start. But of course, the news can change and happen, whatever. So we'll see what happens. But we'll see you then on the SDPN YouTube channel. at pmcfwalk.ca. Rasmus Anderson staying with the Vegas Golden Knights,
Starting point is 01:11:23 which we expected. He wanted this for years. They wanted this for years. They finally got the trade done. And what did they call it? They kept calling it like a handshake deal. And I heard someone else call it a, oh, that's a front drawer deal or something.
Starting point is 01:11:35 I'm like, what? I don't know what that is, but I guess they agreed to this deal a while ago. Vegas needed to make some moves. Dorothea was one of them to be able to make room for Rasmus Anderson's contract. And it is eight point five million dollars over seven years. So that is a fifty nine point five million dollar contract.
Starting point is 01:11:56 I got to be honest with you. I watched a lot of Vegas this year. He didn't look great in the playoffs. I'm assuming they're hoping for a bounce back there. Just one note about the contract. The fact that he waited till July 1st ruled out an eight year deal. Right. So they they delayed this signing and it took him out of contention for a re-signing with a team to do an eight year deal.
Starting point is 01:12:15 and it becomes technically a free agent signing, which is max seven. Maybe they could have brought his AAV down, but maybe they didn't want to do the eighth year. I don't know. This signs him until he's 36. Maybe they were trying to get something else done. And also, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Why do you want him for eight years? Well, you did seven. Yeah. Yeah, but I mean, my guess is Vegas barely wants him until he's 36. And that would have him until he's 37. I'm going to give you a little secret here. They're not going to have him until he's 36.
Starting point is 01:12:42 No, they might not have him until he's 30. 30? 30. They might not have him until he's 30. Because it's Vegas. And Vegas is always going to do what's best for Vegas. And that's why Vegas has been so good. I am on the side of Rasmus Andersen as a far better player than we saw in the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:12:57 And he was wretched. I watched it. He was not good. He had six points, all assists, no goals in 22 games for Vegas. He had nine penalties. That's not the kind of player he is. No. Like at all.
Starting point is 01:13:13 uh he's money in the bank for double digit goals he actually had 17 goals this season uh spread between calgary and vegas which is a career high he's usually money in the bank for somewhere between 30 and 40 points he's gotten as high as 50 he blocks a lot of shots he hits a lot he's a fantasy hockey darling which is why i'm talking about him with so much reverence defensively sometimes lacking yeah and we did see that in the playoffs but it was harder to forgive because the offense wasn't there right and that's this is where i'm curious about this deal with vegas because first off i think the fact that he wanted to be there so bad gave them the leverage to have the have the signing be this low if he's a right shot defenseman can't believe this is
Starting point is 01:13:55 going to low now well consider well it is though look at what bo byram just got i know and he's a ufa this guy could have got 12 13 million dollars on the market easily and he chose to stay in vegas because of course he did everybody you know kelly mccrimmon said it uh he's like you get treated like a first class person here it's a great organization whatever as long as you're here and when we're done with you you're gone there we don't know about any sort of trade protection in this deal just yet because it hasn't been announced i would assume there's a no move associated with this but you know i i do think intelligent move for vegas because if you get injuries guys like shea theodore have played a lot of hockey and played a lot of late round hockey i can see
Starting point is 01:14:35 people missing games and and and needing maintenance having a guy like rasmus anderson and be able to step up and be that great. I think that's pretty cool. And I never understood. If he's going to be great, that is. I never understood. Oh, yeah, they're not going to keep him. I never understood that.
Starting point is 01:14:50 Dude, they gave up. So it was, I'm on HockeyDB now. It was Rasmus Anderson from the Calgary Flames to the Vegas Golden Knights for Zach Whitecloud, who's a great defenseman. Abram Wiebe in a conditional first round pick in 2027 and a second round pick in 2028. Dude, that's a decent little haul, man.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Yeah. and uh you're not you're not giving that up for a rental uh certainly not this day and age like rentals are rentals are reserved for like third round picks you know what i mean dudes who you know aren't staying on the elite end we're talking usually a second unless it's like a unicorn like john carlson who might end up in the hall of fame and then you're gonna give up a first round pick but we're all looking at the ducks like oh and they didn't keep them yeah yeah and they didn't keep them vegas is keeping this guy and they should they paid a ransom for him now the projected cap space for the vegas golden knights guys is negative 5.125 but with petrangelo going on uh
Starting point is 01:15:51 we're expected to go on ltir there was that random report this week that he might be ready to go i don't i wouldn't put anything past the vegas goal uh yeah but i don't think he is i uh but But anyway, $8.8 million would go on LTIR, assuming he was signed up for a season-ending one. They have Parker Weatherspoon making 500 grand. But that's a legit question. They might not have been able to, if Parker Weatherspoon had not been bought for half retained or whatever from the Pittsburgh Penguins yesterday, we're probably looking at a scenario where it's pretty difficult to put a lineup on the ice. i think they're there if there's a chance petro plays it's not that difficult for vegas to then
Starting point is 01:16:31 free up the cap space because i think aiden hill is out the door so you think that do you think that'll happen today i don't know how on earth they do that i agree with you but like 6.25 for half a decade yeah 2020 2031 is when that contract expires even if you have to pay a little to get rid of him that's probably what you're doing and you move that so that you can then there's 6.2 five coming off the books and then you got to finagle what else you got to do to uh squeeze in petro there but it's not like oh i don't think it's dire if they have to have him play because i don't are we believing those rumors are they true i don't know but if he's done then that makes it a lot easier for them sure i think they still go the route of getting rid of aiden hill
Starting point is 01:17:12 and then it's like you have the three million dollars of petro on season ending and then six there and then six so then you're up to like eight million dollars and that means you're going to go out and get larkin and your tandem okay does larkin which glove does he catch with his right or left because they have heart and lindbaum and net okay and like that was that was the achilles heel of this team it was this year they were a good team all year with some injuries but they couldn't stop the puck and they figured it out for like a month and a half and then violently did not stop the puck yeah like historically and not stop so don't like aiden Hill that they wouldn't put him in the net to just give it
Starting point is 01:17:49 a shot in the Stanley Cup. John Tortorella didn't know he had a backup goalie. I only have Carter. That's it. You're here with your clipboard. Enjoy. Now I got to ask you this then. Okay, so Vegas we assume Petrangelo probably won't be back until we hear otherwise. Aiden Hill maybe out the door? Probably
Starting point is 01:18:05 out the door. Lindbaum, by the way, was really good in the AHL, I should say. One name I want to ask you guys about when it comes to Vegas and moving cap is Thomas Hurdle. I mean, it's pretty clear that Thomas Hurdle, who's got four more years with a partial no trade sorry it's a modified no trade clause he's got a three team approved list oh wow so he's going to give you three teams he can be traded to and that by the
Starting point is 01:18:28 way exists until two years from now when it becomes a 15 team approved trade list so he has a 28 team no trade 29 i don't think vegas 28 yeah so weird can you move that with with anderson they gave up a lot to get them and i'm like oh yeah they should keep them they gave up kind of a lot to get thomas hurdle uh i think it's a completely different situation i think it's a alley-oop like uh i think they're they'd be willing to just move on what were his stats this year's counting stats so i mean like he's not a bad player last year he had 32 goals this past season he had 24 uh goals and 58 points probably playing i mean he was a minus 17 right that this is not a guy who should be playing center not anymore had to kind of at times he had a he had a good playoff overall it
Starting point is 01:19:21 was a little unimpressive yeah 22 games uh five goals nine assists for 14 points don't forget he went eight weeks without scoring yes right and that when he scored it was like oh my god eight weeks at the primo time of your march 3rd to like late april now crazy do you look at those numbers that i just threw at you and look at his cap hit and where the and where all these contracts are going and go you know what maybe they should just keep them i mean yeah you could but again like what kind of flexibility does vegas want if he's playing a right wing or something on the third line do you care left you let's give me left wing i mean here's here's the worst part of of it all what was his average ice time this year for oh my holy lord what was his ice time i that's a
Starting point is 01:20:05 really good question i maybe 15 minutes 12 40 for 6.75 mil yeah man and we know a ticking time bomb injury right something at any point he could just be done so i mean you get the ltir space but if you are going to trade him it would better be to a rich team that can handle that so like you did the thing that uh i sometimes do with puckpedia you're looking at his five on five ice time his average ice time total was 17 minutes oh that's much much better okay thank you jesse for correcting me so maybe they list five on five average and then penalty special teams so just to correct you i'm on the side i'm 50 50 here like i think they could keep this player and be justified doing it like i don't think it's a totally unreasonable cap hit for what he brings to them but um
Starting point is 01:20:54 i don't i think he's a luxury they can't afford i think one thing i think you said that is really important is that a third line player who's gonna put up that many goals for you at 6.7 is in the new cap reality not the worst thing in the world it's not and that's kind of what they call and it gives you net front in on the power play too yeah yeah i think uh i think kelly mccrimmon is just gonna write in like crayon on his three-team list detroit because you could have him yeah or you could have larkin for really not that much more yeah it's a good point okay well vegas is going to be an interesting team to watch they always are they always are and our free agency covers coverage continues here on sdpn live stream
Starting point is 01:21:39 tonight between 4 30 uh 4 45 to kind of wrap it all up uh but in the meantime we're going to be covering all the trades, all the re-signings, everything right here. San Jose has signed Mason Marchment to a big contract. Holy moly. Mason Marchment is going to get, are you guys ready for this? Five years at $7 million apiece. And I think this makes a ton of sense for a couple of reasons. First off, you already got Kiefer Sherwood in the trade and then re-signing, right?
Starting point is 01:22:09 At $5.75 million. That's going to kick in this week. sorry this this coming year I guess it kicks in today but now you get Mason Marchment as well and those two guys are big and they're mean and they won't be bullied and you have to expect that if the Sharks are going to go to the playoffs here pretty soon which I think they want to be guys are going to take runs at Macklin Celebrini and Will Smith and you know Sam Dickinson and Michael Mesa and you gotta have some protection for them take it from this grizzled bunch of fans uh fun loving adorable skilled puppies um is a really fun regular season and most of the
Starting point is 01:22:48 season is the regular season makes for a horrible playoff yeah right um this guy in a aggressive league in an aggressive division is going to be a battering ram he actually sort of inadvertently ruined the leaf season by running anthony stole ours and then causing him to yell at his teammates and then they never stuck up for each other ever again yep and did you mention sherwood you know yeah i did yeah you did okay i thought so because great minds think alike because as you're doing the intro i'm like oh and they have sherwood too yeah yeah mean mean mean but like also a contributor yes he for sure was unbelievable in the playoffs by the way they're both contributed oh yeah marchman had a not the greatest season last year offensively but it was oh my god split
Starting point is 01:23:33 between the kraken and blue jackets that's a last year last season that's a nightmare duo he played for both irrelevant franchises what blue jackets east and christy and kraken sorry blue jackets west kraken east last year the blue jackets bought the blue jackets sold last year the kraken bought the blue uh the kraken sold neither team knows what they're doing uh now they're going to the san jose sharks and they know what they're doing going to the moon that's right this is uh this is really interesting i think it's good for him now jesse in terms of the eye-watering numbers we've already seen you think about like aj greer at 4.1 and and you know the eric holla deal what was just announced we'll talk some more about that later on i mean ufas are gonna get paid a lot like i'm
Starting point is 01:24:18 still waiting for that logan stanley deal to come in it's gonna be insane i'm telling you but what do you think about paying mason marchman seven million dollars and it's for five years five years yeah it's a slight overpay like i think we should be honest in that and that it isn't i think the the deal he would get if he was just comfortably resigning with his own team at a reasonable number because it is free agency and you're bidding against other teams it is a slight overpay for a guy who's consistently year in year out like 50 points 22 goals is his max in his career man you know that's not that's the high end of this 30 year old player is 22 goals spending seven million dollars on that he did have 22 goals in 62 games so maybe there is a higher end maybe he can reach
Starting point is 01:25:02 25 here with the sharks but i think that's just slightly above where you're probably you want to pay but for a team who is not short on cap space who has the ability to spend i don't mind them going out and putting in that extra little bit to bring him to the sharks so this is what we were talking about with the ducks earlier so they have over 40 million in cap space but so much of it is going to get eaten up by cutter goche and um leo carlson sharks have 39.4 million dollars does that have marchman added to it yet no no okay so it doesn't so you subtract seven so they still have 32.4 million dollars and then you look at the team there's really not much work to be done they got to re-sign colin graff well on defense there's a lot
Starting point is 01:25:46 of yeah well yes yes yes but like in terms of re-signing guys yeah colin graff they're going to be able to do shakir mukhamadul and they're going to be able to do um and then you have uh probably at least 25 million to add well you also have the celebrini extension to worry about at some point here i know he's got one more year but you do have to no you do that you don't do that now oh no no like i mean i mean it's it's not a cap consideration though until next got it but that's yeah that's something you got to be working on yet like today like at 1201 i'd be surprised if we didn't get it is when you start talking about that deal so you can't just spend all willy-nilly because you do need that
Starting point is 01:26:24 cap space for Celebrini and Will Smith who are eligible for extensions right now. My guess, pure guess, is at the end of the day, the Sharks will have some sort of press conference and I think the smart thing to do, if Celebrini were done, announce it there.
Starting point is 01:26:40 Now I got a story here. Mark Shague, who is a reporter for the hockey writers for Columbus, said that Mason Marchman did get into deep contract negotiations with the columbus blue jackets term was the issue not money so what they're saying is that it is it was that the blue jackets would not go beyond four years why if you like why just throw in the extra year i know that's that was you're not going to be
Starting point is 01:27:08 at the cap that's weird no one wants to be there that's what are you talking about and you gave up a second and a fourth to get this guy so you just lit that on fire then that's weird and it's next year's second you're not going to be good oh boy that's very oh boy that's the case i don't like that at all yeah i i wonder for blue jackets fans like here's the thing don waddell when this if this warinski trade happens today we don't know if it will if a kareel marchenko market which exists but like where is it where's he gonna go he's gotta get a win today big time you might even get Kirill Marchenko well if you got him re-signed that might restore some hope but I think the Rwinski thing is is over Don Waddell is spending a lot of reputation uh this week
Starting point is 01:27:55 no kidding it's it's looking it feels a little like hey that was the Eric Tulsky show the whole time wasn't it I I do want to shout out uh Mason Marchment just for being uh well CJ would be furious if I didn't mention the fact that he was a Coburg cougar um but also undrafted oh and here he is getting $11,000,000,000,000. Yeah, it's a shame with Mason Marchment that it didn't work out
Starting point is 01:28:17 in Toronto. At the time, Keefe didn't trust him, but one of the worst trades in Leafs history, Mason Marchment for Dennis Mulligan. Man, four games
Starting point is 01:28:24 total for the Leafs. Four games and he looked good in them. It's worth mentioning he looked good in them. Mason Marchment also now becomes the highest paid shark.
Starting point is 01:28:33 What? Until Morgan Rielly gets there. Logan Couture doesn't count. No, he doesn't. He doesn't count. So the next highest paid shark
Starting point is 01:28:42 is dimitri orlov at 6.5 million dollars oh they have the money to spend unless colin graff like gets the most unexpected contract of the day right adam would give him i love colin graff and i would give him my my love it's orlov at 6.5 and then toffoli at six and wenberg at six whoa he's the highest paid shark can i just say this look at barclay goudreau you know didn't want to get traded there was forced out of new york and they don't know what the hell and and then and then he's like oh well actually this team is pretty great and it's going to be a team with barclay goudreau keifer sherwood and mason marchman barclay goudreau that's the open market today he makes like five million easily like it's insane easily that is a crazy
Starting point is 01:29:24 team full of crazy people uh oh it's not fun no they're not a fun team and they did just draft second and ninth overall too it's just everything's coming up shark that's so i forgot about that so you take every projected roster that they have and you have to add Stenberg and Verhoff to it I don't I I don't know if Verhoff goes back to school but Stenberg Stan yeah yeah that is it that's a look at that roster looks pretty damn good already already Stenberg Celebrini Smith Toffoli Wenberg Sherwood you know and then you throw in March somewhere in there yeah Misa's only 19 oh they'll score this is a scary group and you know what their goaltenders nadelkovich had a comeback season last year ask her off when he's when he's healthy he's looking good that's
Starting point is 01:30:13 five million dollars wrapped up in your goals one of them needs to take the net defense needs a lot of work defense needs a lot of work but they have kesselring take the net they got him they got him for a paperclip as you said jesse yes literally pretty crazy like eisenman genius paid them to get michael kesselring good deal for marchment good deal for the sharks uh and sdpn's uh free agency coverage continues. We will have more free agency trade resigning videos all day long. And of course, our live stream 430, 445 on the SDP and YouTube channel today. That will be our podcast. The LA Kings had one of the best drafts at the NHL, according to all the prospect reports, but they're old and they just got three times older with Eric Holla, Matt Zuccarello and Corey
Starting point is 01:30:58 perry we'll start with eric holla now i want to ask you jesse have you seen the term for harold for holla yes okay steve what do you what do you think eric holla got 35 years old left shooting centerman four years okay i love shooting centerman five per 20 million you know what well well under that two years 3.5 million per season oh it's not bad right you know what like I know a lot of people hate the direction of the Kings. I don't hate that. 38 points in 81 games last year. I don't hate that.
Starting point is 01:31:30 Matt Zuccarello is an unbelievable contract. Hayden stopped us before we started this video, and he's like, he's old, he's not slow. And he's good. He's good. This is going to be a big change for Kaprizov, who has been playing with Zuccarello for such a long time. One year, $1 million plus bonuses.
Starting point is 01:31:47 That's it? So, hot take. He's going to win a cup this year. but not with the Kings? I don't know. Probably not. Okay. Oh, because it's a highly tradable deal?
Starting point is 01:31:59 He's going to be one of the most valuable, unless LA keeps him. If LA were to choose to trade this player at the trade deadline, you retain half, so he's half a million dollars, pro-rated, and he's Matt Zuccarello while doing it.
Starting point is 01:32:18 He's going to go for a first-round pick. He could. He could. He had 54 points this past season. Oh, my God. He was nearly a point a game because it was only 59 games. He actually had a very good playoff with nine points in eight games. I would absolutely, if I was a capped out team, Vegas, if I was Florida, if I was a team that wanted to upgrade but needed to do it on the cheap in terms of the cap, Matt Zuccarello is a dream come true.
Starting point is 01:32:49 Now, if he just stays a king, that's boring. well that's boring boo so okay so then the last one is cory perry back to los angeles after being traded back to tampa yes for the playoff run obviously he didn't make the finals this year which was a bummer everybody was sad about it but um cory perry's 42 already i think i believe the oldest it's either him or brent burns the oldest player in the nhl so i i'm i'm curious about this not because i don't understand what cory perry brings to a team but is this guy another trade deadline chip or is la actually they should be fighting for the playoffs should they not they're trying to be competitive he 100 or sorry go ahead go ahead go ahead well he 100
Starting point is 01:33:28 could be a trade chip but i i think we're all forgetting how good um uh cory perry was uh with the kings he finished the season uh sixth sorry in power play points on the kings and he was traded like part way through if i'm not mistaken because i remember shooting a video right here in this seat um when he was traded i think he was third in power play points on the kings wow okay all right so like he's still that's not good though no but like he's still very useful in his role no that's good for him i just mean the kings that's not correct oh yeah well okay so what's the money one year one mil maybe some bonuses but we don't quite know yet all right and what was holla again uh 3.5 two years 3.5 per 3.5 so for 5.5 million dollars you've added perry
Starting point is 01:34:23 zuccarello holla ah i know it's the hip and cool thing to hate on ken holland i think that's tidy i think that's real good it makes the kings better well and i think it's interesting too when you add the fact that you know these guys are on short-term deals uh drew dowdy will not be signed to an extension they said that i know and so is this the last hurrah of an old king's team where they then fully turn it over to the next the next thing i mean you probably ought to okay very few people are signed beyond next season i think the kings have a kopitar sized hole down the middle of their lineup that they haven't addressed yet this offseason so i'm unsure of how good the Kings can be next season because I don't know if Byfield can immediately step into
Starting point is 01:35:11 that role and fill every gap that Kovatar left behind I don't know if he can do that so I just don't know they'll be competitive they'll be chasing a playoff spot but I think they might have a small ceiling a high floor because of all the pieces they do have like Kempe and Panarin and Fiala and Armia and like I think the additions are good it's just I don't think their ceiling is too high okay well I would agree with that I would agree with that they have three forwards and three D's signed beyond two seasons there's gonna be some turnover in LA it's yeah MP Fiala byfield uh followed by brant clark cody cc and mikey anderson no goalies wow yeah man so this is the last year before the big changes still paying mike richards by the way still of course of course
Starting point is 01:36:05 yeah i'm i am i am very interested in this now of course they've got uh mikey anderson signed long term they got brant clark signed long term um you know cc and edmondson will expire in the next couple of years but yeah this this could be a massive massive change do you think that they are able to go out and get a big centerman jesse with what they have or do you just kind of leave it and go this is our team this we will fall where we fall where we were in a weak division last year it might be weak again this year we don't really know what do you think ken holland strategy is yeah i honestly i don't see them going out and trying to make a big shake up to chase that like i see a little bit of patience here with ken holland and seeing what they have with the core
Starting point is 01:36:46 that they currently have there and just playing it out and then making decisions maybe halfway through the season towards the trade deadline or maybe December if they're falling short or if they're way ahead of expectations. But I think they're going to have a pretty quiet offseason. OK, now let's can we bring that roster up one more time? OK, let's look about I just want to ask you guys this tradable assets at the deadline should they want to. OK, if that's the way that it goes, Panarin, I think at a year left at 11 million, I think a lot of people would want He controls it, but yes. I think Byfield and Kepi obviously a part of the future.
Starting point is 01:37:20 Fiala is a guy that I'm interested in. Does he move or do they keep him if they're out of it? I think two years left beyond this one at 7.875 with the way he scores. I mean, that could be extraordinarily valuable piece. Trevor Moore is 31. Can you believe that? No, I can't. I hate that a lot.
Starting point is 01:37:38 4.2 million dollars. You know, obviously, Drew Dowdy is not going anywhere, but his deal expires at the end of this year. Someone will overpay like crazy for Armia. I'm sure CeCe and Edmondson would be deadline, you know, guys. And here's the thing. If you need goaltending at the deadline, you've got Kemper and Forsberg on expiring deals, as you guys mentioned. So, yeah, I mean, it could be just a, hey, maybe they go on a run, but maybe they just harvest. I think they'll be too close to a playoff spot to be like sellers.
Starting point is 01:38:03 Like, I don't think you're selling guys on longer term deals, but I can see them like standing pad. And, you know, the Scott Lawton addition at the trade deadline is because they were very weak down the middle. and now they'll be losing Lawton and Kopitar retired. So I don't see much improvement over where they were last year, but that doesn't mean they'll be a bad team. And lost to know. Like that's so much defensive duty that falls at the feet of who, right? Like Byfield and company.
Starting point is 01:38:34 You need Byfield to get more offensive numbers too. Like you need to give him more chances. I'm just looking at them like, what are you? Yeah. Yeah. What are you? they're the well okay if you're they're boring like their roster their coach like it's boring who do you have to hope for then like labia lets the coach he's a defensive guy likes the old guys
Starting point is 01:38:53 at hall has played for him clearly well luckily he's got an old team yeah and they played really well defensively last year in that first round series against the avalanche like they they were able to keep things low scoring because that's the only way they could kind of stay in those games so maybe they'll just kind of play that game again where they they went to so many darn ot games last year yes they did i don't know if it's a record or whatever they did but maybe they just try and run that back where it's just hey let's just hang in these games with great defensive play and then see what we can do in those moments within one goal game yeah it's just full of fine yeah sdpns uh i almost said trade deadline free agency coverage continues we've got a whole bunch
Starting point is 01:39:34 of trades and stuff like i'm looking at the list right now there's been a couple of signings while we've even made this video um and i'm going to surprise you guys with them in the next video that we do because it's going to be great um and of course our live stream tonight uh between 4 30 and 4 45 depending upon how the day shakes out but we will be doing a live stream and it will be our podcast so look out for us there two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer That's why every step and dollar raised matters. On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation Walk.
Starting point is 01:40:09 Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research. Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcfwalk.ca. We're going to talk about, and Steve and Jesse don't know this, a hockey team that always makes intelligent decisions who do you think it is and there are two depth moves carolina hurricanes there's a good team that makes a lot of good
Starting point is 01:40:37 decisions okay we're at hurricanes panthers vegas dallas until this past week um always makes intelligent decisions colorado there's one maybe be in there there's one more who am i missing which former greyhounded doobus got uh no it's the tampa bay lightning why did i forget the tampa bay lightning yes absolutely i answer your question with tanner janelle okay well that was just the one thing though jesse you know what'd you know about that uh they gave up a draft class don't don't even look yes they did yes they did now these are two free agent signings and they are two depth signings yes that's why i wanted to include them both in the video okay so the first one is former leaf oh no he's gonna tear up our leaf ilia mckay of no oh how many years how much
Starting point is 01:41:30 money it's a fun game he's so interesting because he got overpaid like crazy in vancouver and now he's like almost undervalued dan millstein's on on one i'm gonna say six years okay jesse what do you think what the money no no yeah years and money years and money six years 4.5 per okay jesse 3.5 3.85 mil damn four years okay so not bad that's really kind of roughly what he signed for in vancouver is it not well i guess no it's less it's less so it was such a it was an overpay man now to me he's made some good money in his career and you kind of go to this and go i'm i just need to get out of chicago and i want to start winning undrafted players that yeah tampa's a good place to do that shoot i i love it for tampa which means i hate it the next guy who i'm
Starting point is 01:42:16 heartbroken about oh no oh no no no no no Scott Lawton no oh other other heartbroken guy is that who you thought too did you think it was Lawton I did no not him guy that I would be heartbroken about he was on one of my favorite teams this year the ducks yep Jeff VL Jeff VL oh nice now good for him so I thought it was Lawton don't act like anybody knew who Jeff VL was heading into last year yeah no nobody unless you're a ducks fan nobody did nobody but he was great we had the opportunity hold on years and money uh years and money we um three years three mil jesse 2.8 2.5 how many years uh four years five four years wow they love a long deal they do well and and i gotta tell you jeffiel was awesome for the ducks his defensive abilities are
Starting point is 01:43:16 incredible watching him shut down uh connor mcdavid was was a feat to behold like this guy he's something special tampa's getting a really good player so 2020 2021 he had 11 games played no points the next season 34 games five points the next season four games no points the next season five games no points boston last year 10 games no points he goes to anaheim he goes oh three goals seven assists 10 points and then in the playoffs four points in 12 games and like you said did a really good job against uh connor mcdavid i said jesse did but i saw it like adam said i was there adam i was gonna i said it like 20 seconds ago he's looking at the other guy well listen i don't know how this happened if you were step it up if you were
Starting point is 01:44:08 watching my streams this is free agent frenzy expect better i'll try i'll try harder uh if you're if you're you know i mean if you were watching my streams in the playoffs you already know that um uh you know i'm a huge fan of the way this guy plays i think you're right connor the connor mcday you know that beating edmonton was an unbelievable win you know what i kind of worry about though i worry about bears uh first of all i worry about playing them in the in this in this conference candy at halloween but there's a lot of talent leaving anaheim oh i don't fully i don't at all understand what pat verbeek is doing so vl gone zellweger traded uh-huh truba likely gone unless they re-sign him in the last minute here gouda's gone and that's their
Starting point is 01:44:56 captain yeah and then i understand it but he's their captain he's their captain and then uh john carlson and mctavish oh mctavish dude is a crazy amount of turnover for a team that did very well last that's a lot of that's a lot of pieces yeah now they've got some big re-signings to make but i i saw the vl thing and i thought man that'll be tough to replace i know they love ross johnston but apparently he's gone to saint louis so you know i don't i mean listen anaheim got thrust right back into the spotlight and what happens is when you're a good young team and nobody knows who some of these guys are and then they watch in the playoffs they go oh oh is that guy a free agent i should sign that guy that's what's happening but i am curious about what they
Starting point is 01:45:33 do i know aj greer's there but like that's it adam's a true ducks truther like we need to get you the the mask beak thing i want because i know that considered like yeah we're hyping him up and yeah he's not gonna be on the ducks anymore no they're going to miss that and that was one of their biggest assets in the playoffs being able to throw at a shutdown line that's lower in the lineup that's anchored by VL's defensive abilities, and now you're taking that off the team, and Tampa's gaining that. Tampa, I think, has set
Starting point is 01:46:01 themselves up beautifully. I want you to imagine this, Jess. VL, Gord, Mikheyev, and Mikheyev's speed. Holmberg? VL, Holmberg, Mikheyev? Just get some more former Leafs. I hate it.
Starting point is 01:46:18 I do want to say something, because vl i want to try to find his career earnings um they're they can't be he was in the ahl oh my god estimated career earnings according to puck media 2.41 million so oh he's about to make that per year for the next half decade but here's the problem the lightning are going to make him earn that shit because he is not typical he's not a huge fighter he had less than 50 penalty minutes last year but he'll do it i remember him and pesetta had like a blood feud they sure did yes yeah yeah yeah but he's going to be going toe-to-toe with the panthers every time and every
Starting point is 01:47:01 time he has anything to say to anybody he's going to get mobbed right yep it's your every single time you play that team in that division it will be a bloodbath and you will be at the center of it i'd like to throw something out for the tampa bay lightning um that maybe people around the haven't noticed but they probably know is on the radar nikita kucherov is eligible for an extension today he's a ufa at the end of this season and nikita kucherov was making only 9.5 million dollars like that's a crazy deal for what he did over the length of that contract the heart trophies in their compass in there and now he needs a new deal and i wonder if he's going to try and take them to the bank if kaprizov is 17 yeah now i know it's a tax-free state so tax-free in florida
Starting point is 01:47:48 at 17 would be a big raise on what kaprizov is making in minnesota but if it's any it has to be that he's nikita kucherov oh my god that could be crazy and what do you do if you're tampa besides just give him a blank check like i mean like are we getting into a scenario here where like he rolls into camp like Stamkos did a couple years ago and go, oh, I'm really pissed I didn't get a call. And you know he wouldn't hold back. What am I talking about? Who are their Tampa Bayers? Can you imagine? Yes.
Starting point is 01:48:19 Vividly. If they don't want him and don't think he's worth that money, I don't know. Things could get spicy, but I don't think it's going to get spicy. But it's going to be spicy with the guy who could have a statue outside the building. Here's what Stamkos was not coming off of. A 130-point
Starting point is 01:48:35 Hart Trophy winning season. It's true. Yeah. kucherov's his last four seasons 130 121 144 and 113 and that doesn't include any of the three consecutive cup finals seasons where he actually barely played um it's just stupid if in any other market like this is a conversation we're talking about we get to training camp we're like kucherov still not signed and it happened with stamkos for sure but i'm just i'm trying to get that role in here a little it's like hey what's that number gonna be welcome to the real
Starting point is 01:49:10 nhl just be like yeah what's that number because it could be 18 million and you know what it should be a lot it should be 18 it should be a fortune he should be among the top top paid players he should it's the number one yep yep you know what ilya mikhayev and jeff vl you guys can take discounts i'll be the one getting the big money thank you very much i think that's what it's got to be anyway our free agency coverage continues we've got more to announce there was even a leaf thing while we're recording this video so we will mention that uh in the next one um and in the meantime uh keep your eyes on this channel because we are doing a live stream as well which will be our wednesday podcast between 4 30 and 4 45 expected start although you never know free agency
Starting point is 01:49:54 is kind of crazy we'll continue with the videos jack rossovic is a toronto maple leaf a year after it was supposed to happen uh brad treliving was very interested in jack rossovic last summer and jack's uh contract just it just never got signed he joined the oilers late last year like while the season was starting it was kind of crazy yes and that was a very odd set of circumstances part of that was uh the leafs saying i think we're interested no we're not i think we're interested no we're not and that was very brad treliving they're very uh very interested this year. And Jack Rossovic is obviously now a Toronto Maple Leaf in the next two years at $4 million per season. Now, the question with Jack Rossovic is what role does he play? There
Starting point is 01:50:37 have been reports out there that the Leafs have interest in Colton Sissons. It was actually reported that the deal was done, but it is not done as of this recording. Oh, I very much like both. And Jack Rossovic brings a couple of things. First off, with Michele and Robertson gone, it gives you a little bit of depth down the lineup. Number two, gentlemen, he shoots right And he wins 53% of his face-off draws when he does take them. Yeah, he was sixth on the Oilers in face-offs taken last year. But he did join late. Yeah, he ended up getting into 69 games, which is nice.
Starting point is 01:51:08 Yeah. But it's not 82. And how many goals? And this is a key. He had 21 after having 22. So that gives them a player. So here's the difference with Michele and Robertson. Michele and Robertson, you could play them in one spot.
Starting point is 01:51:22 and yeah you could expect one thing each of them had their own thing michelli a little bit of playmaking robertson a little bit of goal scoring rossovic a lot more valuable in different scenarios you're basically taking that same money and going we're going to spend it this way jesse your thoughts on what jack rossovic is going to bring to this lineup my initial look at this is that's a good depth piece of exactly what they need in terms of a forward in their depth right handed shooting guy who can play center the four million dollars is i'm like okay i wish it was a little less than that it's fine it's quite a raise over the 1.5 it was making last year but that was under very specific circumstances and four million dollars i think maybe i just have to recalibrate
Starting point is 01:52:06 my brain on what four million dollars is i think is an upgrade on michelle or robertson if you're looking at him in that regard so i don't mind the deal at all for the least i'm right-handed i can play center i scored over 20 goals each of the last two seasons you're paying me four million dollars yeah sure i think it's i think it really is as simple as that now he is a defensive liability he's not he's not gonna kill penalties and this is what i was trying to figure out in my own video in real time a big problem last year is matthews didn't score enough goals well the reason for that is he started way too many of his shifts in the defensive zone okay well there's John Tavares, who he's not a penalty killer, right?
Starting point is 01:52:48 You can trust him to win face-offs, but you don't really want to be starting him in the defensive zone. Yep. I'm not eager to give Jack Roslevic defensive zone starts, which is why when you mentioned Colton Sissons, I'm like, yes, please sign that man. Please.
Starting point is 01:53:01 You have Steven Lorenz as an option who they played at fourth line center in games where the team was awful. Or they had an injury. It just didn't matter anymore. Yeah. You know what I mean? I know Dakota Joshua can do center
Starting point is 01:53:14 if you really need him to they have a lot of face-off options on this team which is good but you know for your dream uh I know of uh John Tavares you know at the 3c either being 3c or 2.5c yeah can you make Roslevic and John Tavares your 2.5 c's I'm not sure you can I don't think so I don't think so I think he's a third line lock you know what I mean but they needed more right shots in the lineup we mentioned this like Nylander's the only one you just want somebody who's a little more versatile he'll be on the second unit second unit of the power play can win you some face-offs will not kill penalties for you i i totally understand what you're saying jesse so yeah and like carolina this is a player who he did end up playing nine games for carolina
Starting point is 01:53:58 not this past season obviously because they won the cup uh but the year before and he he didn't get into every game they don't fit he didn't fit carolina who is a very smart hockey team they also yeah but like they also play a very specific way and you're like huh him with carolina i'm not sure i get that him with edmonton oh and like i think i i think his stock would have been higher and his time in edmonton would have gone better had he gone there from the jump he didn't really miss a ton of time but he did miss camp and like exhibition games and stuff like that i had his game log up where did it go he had one assist in his first seven games with the oilers and that was it uh and then he goes on to have a more than adequate uh offensive production nhl season
Starting point is 01:54:45 on a team where he should have let me throw this at you okay this this person remains unsigned but let me throw this at you um jack ross to pick at four million scott lawton at 5.5 who do you take oh i would have preferred scott lawton i sound like such a homer but yeah i think scotty if that if those like i don't know if that's on the table i have both it sounds it doesn't sound like scott lawn wanted to come back i know that he had interest in signing in la i know that he would have come back to trump but i don't think under the true living administration would he have come back yeah i don't know what this or this is what i'm asking the reason i'm asking is we don't quite still know what the toronto management value right and you look at some of the edge
Starting point is 01:55:28 stats of ross of it he clearly could skate but he's not a he's not the fastest skater in the world but he's one of the quickest to his fastest speed which is more important in hockey than your top speed i think when we talk about like where this fits in like i look at a scotty lot and go they could still insert him in a lineup like this if they wanted to go that that extra 1.5 million dollars is for a guy who's really good defensively yes hey who did jack roslevic played with for four years and whose contract expires in two years when Roslovich
Starting point is 01:56:00 expires Columbus right Austin Matthews Adam what oh Zach Wierenski oh get out of here maybe they're buds get out of here maybe they're buds I don't know maybe they're buds all right now I want to ask you about Edmonton in this because they obviously lose
Starting point is 01:56:16 a guy that scored 21 goals for them last year I mean I don't think there was any hints that they were trying to resign him if they had discussions they were minimal but i wonder about edmonton and does this make them more likely or less likely to bring in a guy like adam henrik again because he's apparently in the scott lot range of five to five and a half million dollars he's been there a long time contributes a lot down there but he's getting older well we're sitting here at we're recording this at 1 38 p.m eastern and like i've already
Starting point is 01:56:45 been getting texts from people like stan bowman is not out of his bed yet um he's he's gonna get left without a dance partner here and the Oilers are just on this never-ending hamster wheel of trying to find depth scoring now like I'm not like Dickinson was a good signing but he doesn't provide depth scoring no ah good defensive the occasion like not as much as Rozovic but he brings far more defensive acumen than Rozovic like you could definitely make the argument uh actually it is just true that they need a player like Dickinson more than Rozovic but at some point at i i just stopped myself from saying you got to take the offensive burden off of leon and connor no you don't that is why you have them yes yes that is why you have them okay so the reason
Starting point is 01:57:31 you're not winning games is not because connor and leon are doing enough it's because you can't get the puck out of your damn net that's what the oilers have to figure out this offseason not jack roslevic they could afford to lose okay all right got it now on the toronto side obviously jesse uh austin matthews and jack ross are bigger friends and are they and i just you know i remember that from last year uh they're very when we were preparing for him to sign here and then he didn't you know the zacharensky thing is out there but we can leave that for now i mean the leafs are going to sign people that are useful to the team and austin wants to win but it kind of helps though right if people think that's silly then like you don't understand how
Starting point is 01:58:08 humans work yeah like you're bringing in for the captain of your team the face of the franchise the guy this whole thing is built around you're bringing in somebody he likes that matters it it 100 matters and who was matthew's setup man it was a speedy right-handed winger like we were maybe going in the wrong direction here like uh oh yeah he's gonna play is he is he second line center is he third line center how much center does he place maybe as you talked about like matthews doesn't have a winger on the roster right now what if that's one of them you think first line right wing for roslevic at least he gets a shot at it at times i can see that a hundred percent or like out of camp like out of camp you just need good enough right like especially when
Starting point is 01:58:52 it's sloppy and you're scoring a million goals a day and some guy you've never heard of is leading the league with 10 goals uh through october like all hockey played between the beginning of season in halloween is anarchy yeah him out of dude last year it was supposed to be domey and then it was michelle like roslevic i think is adequate and i like the idea of if the guy on the left wing is the true setup guy and he's just i have two options to feed and roslevic all obviously will defer sometimes to austin because he's austin but there's another shot that's a threat next to austin and maybe that opens him up even more and i can see that really working a lot of people can he make plays rossovic oh yeah a lot a lot of people are going to immediately think gavin
Starting point is 01:59:38 mckenna but like i'll i'll throw it to easton cowan now i i would think mckenna would be more in a scoring role of himself so i don't think i don't think the three of them would work i think you'd have to get in some sort of other setup guy just to pass those guys the fuck so that could be cowboy it's it's worth mentioning that rossovic has more goals than assists in each of his last two seasons but that is an outlier in his career his career he's got 123 goals 173 assists for 296 points interesting okay well it you know that the picture still remains pretty unclear for the Toronto Maple Leaf Zach Rorinsky's names out there but I will mention this Darren Drager is reporting that Rorinsky and uh uh sorry Rorinsky's agent and Don Waddell spoke
Starting point is 02:00:24 this morning in order to clear the air over whatever happened last night and that there is no push to move him just yet and that Wierenski is comfortable coming to camp in the fall. How likely do we think that is? Over under two and a half hours he gets dealt. Yeah, the time to trade him is now,
Starting point is 02:00:42 but we'll see what happens. As free agency day continues, this is Canada Day fun. And by the way, all the trades, all the signings, we're going to try to get to as many as we can and we will have the podcast. It'll be a live stream podcast
Starting point is 02:00:53 directly from this SDPN YouTube channel at between 4 and 4.45. Sorry, 4.30 and 4.45 this afternoon. We will see you there. Uh-oh. It looks like San Jose's opponents are in Truba. Oh. End the video.
Starting point is 02:01:10 End the delete. Four years, $8.25 million. That's roughly what he made on his last contract. He's going to get four more years, but he leaves Orange County for Northern California. i i think he looks boy i think he looks better in teal no this is this is a little bit of like not just pacific division but california hockey spice here this is interesting there's a theme would you not agree keifer sherwood mason marchman today
Starting point is 02:01:39 and then jake truba do you think the sharks are trying to get tougher uh just a tad that's uh that's a mean looking team also barclay grudroy is there too and that's not that he's no joke yeah Now, at some point, and this was a big problem that the young Leafs had, you got to stick up for yourself. Yeah, this is the problem. They would always get a babysitter. Yeah, but these guys are actual players. The Leafs didn't get good players. The Leafs got guys who were tough, who you couldn't really trust in the lineup.
Starting point is 02:02:04 And I think you can trust Jake Truba. A lot of people, Jesse, are really down on Jake Truba, especially the way he left New York. And I understand sometimes that maybe a player's advanced analytics aren't great, but he played pretty damn well with Jackson Lacombe. i don't know i really liked him in the playoffs last year yeah and i still believe that there's a little winnipeg uh jake truba still in there like we we think about him through those rangers years where he's throwing flying elbows through the air at opponents and all that but he's still a really good puck carrier he can break the puck out of his own zone extremely well if you need help on the power play he can do that too i think there's a lot of offensive capabilities in truba
Starting point is 02:02:44 as well as decent, smart defensive play. In 2019, the 18-19 season with Winnipeg, he played a full 82 games and had 50 points. I don't think that player's in there. But with the Rangers in 21-22, he had 11 goals, 39 points. We know that player's in there because last year he had 10 goals and 35 points. That is a more than reasonable ask for him in San Jose. Now, I don't think the contract will age the best.
Starting point is 02:03:11 I don't know if Trouba is the guy that we're going to look at and say, he's probably worth this at age 34 or 35 36 seasons where he's signed to because it is a bit of it's a but it's only a four-year deal so it's not too bad but i can see him at the end of that four years just calling it like quits because he plays a hard style and a lot of minutes there on his body so i don't know how it's going to age but these first couple years i think it'd be really good for san jose they need the defensive help and i think he'll be good i'm excited for this uh first off i'm excited for his return to anaheim because we got we i want to get to the anaheim angle in a second but when you go into to play the sharks at sap in the last five years
Starting point is 02:03:50 you've been able to basically run them over and then celebrini showed up and he might make you pay a little bit a lot but you're not you're not quite there uh with guys like mario ferraro walking out the door they've got orlov under contract for one more year truba coming in potentially morgan riley that's still out there i mean you're getting a lot of veteran back there to go along with a guy like sam dickinson and you know the way that truba was able to be a leader because he's you know all accounts a really good guy obviously he was the captain in new york he wore a letter in in uh in anaheim if i'm not mistaken as well and then you go in and you got another young team that's on the rise that's exciting i mean this truba deal is going to take
Starting point is 02:04:29 him through the first window of seller the first cup window of celebrating his career that's kind i was sick and he's a mentor guys like great for him what is confusing about this is both anaheim and san jose need this player yeah right the difference is anaheim is losing them and now there's a giant hole on their d court still at like 2 p.m eastern um and their divisional rival gets to fill it i don't think the money was there for truba in anaheim at this price like he's getting a raise over his last contract which is the prime years contract of his life and i know the salary cap goes up but i don't know if they would have been willing to go 8.25 especially with the deals that they have to do with carlson and goche right there were some whispers this
Starting point is 02:05:15 morning that carlson and goche aren't necessarily going to get done today that's fine i don't think it is you don't have a decor sure but you can always figure that one out well with who i mean money is there like we did always say that about the leafs and they never could um but i i i want to ask about that because the ducks what are their strengths in the playoff how deep they were you know if if hellison wasn't good enough then zellweger could go well zellweger's gone now um uh carlson ran the power play took over from jackson lacombe he's gone lacombe is now going to be the guy um and then you've got truba gone who was sort of the he was the big mean guy playing next to jackson lacombe i'm there's three guys under contract here pat verbique what's you just
Starting point is 02:05:59 made the second round we're supposed to be getting better what's going on both i think both of you are really low on pat pat verbeek's off season so far if it uh yes i'm i'm pro the direction they're going yeah and i'm anti whatever they've done today which is nothing by the way right right which that's bad right that's generally you do stuff when you don't have a team he doesn't have a team you need those to compete in a team league yeah it's bad that he doesn't have a team like that that's that's what i'm just trying to emphasize but like sharks though you shouldn't just make acquisitions to make acquisitions they have to be the right guy the right cap hits of course if this isn't something you can comfortably fit you don't just sign true but because you got
Starting point is 02:06:45 to do something right no no yeah i agree with you but what i'm saying what i'm saying is the right guy is about to sign with another team well right because that's how free agency works yeah right but like the free agency i don't know it's not my way to build a hockey team these days i think smart trading is that's valid well what are they going to do right like i mean they do have assets to uh to trade and i really like their um how they've drafted i thought i thought 2026 they did a great job they did they did oh so okay i'm just i'm just not concerned about the future of the ducks like you guys are and their direction well i'm not i'm rooting for them yeah they were my guys so i need them to get back otherwise i look like a one-shot wonder here uh i also look
Starting point is 02:07:28 at um uh morgan riley and go okay is it more likely now that he goes to anaheim and or over san jose because both of those teams are on his no trade list and you know again as much as they don't have true but the ducks have 40 million and they've got a you know it might take 25 of it to re-sign um goche and uh leo carlson that's still a lot of extra money might be more yeah like i this is there's stuff to to figure out here so very very curious about how this goes uh sdpn's coverage continues san jose i think hit this out of the park here like they're having a good day for the next couple years of this trooper deal out of year four like i was saying like i'm not sure about year four but like this is what you do right now with macklin celebrini you go get him a
Starting point is 02:08:12 defenseman like this and they don't have any defenseman this is beautiful for san jose you should be very happy it's worth noting that the people who are in the know with the mason marchman deal are like hey uh that's actually really good value for this player like there's a lot of people that are like well that's way too much money for mason marchman i'm like i don't know if you're right on that one san jose's dollars are different than other teams dollars they have the space for this they're fine yeah yeah anyway well you go to sign these good yeah and the cap's gonna keep going up yeah that's that's what i'm curious about man the the the then you got celebrini does he sign his extension today i would love it he could purely for the content and then you got
Starting point is 02:08:53 will smith does he sign his extension today here's here's the difference that it's pressing for the ducks to get one or both of those guys done today because they have a decor to fill out it's the sharks don't need to do that they don't care yeah they're they're they're easy all right well Well, SDPN's free agency coverage continues. Now, remember, we've got our live stream tonight between 4.30 and 4.45. And it looks like the Toronto Maple Leafs may be close to signing a goaltender. So look out for that video very soon. Two in five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer.
Starting point is 02:09:29 That's why every step and dollar raised matters. On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation Walk. challenge yourself friends and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research together we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer register today at pmcfwalk.ca mediocre goalies be getting paid is the saying um that's what everybody says right right it is not actually okay now listen i say this with love in my heart but the Stuart Skinner signing in Winnipeg is notable not only because Stuart Skinner's been in the conference or the Stanley Cup final a couple times but because Connor Hellebuck's
Starting point is 02:10:16 apparently on his way out the door and so Stuart Skinner is going to Winnipeg because obviously we know Connor Hellebuck's gonna go that's what we think anyway two years three and a half per what do you think boy you're gonna go from he's a boy actually yeah he is man yeah you're gonna go from connor hellebuck to stuart skinner now darren dreger was was out there going now this doesn't mean yes it does darren stop it we all we all know what's happening here um and actually what we are seeing is is a bit of a tap into the brakes with warensky recently in the last few minutes which i i go two and a half hours until that deal happens um and now we're seeing it with hellebuck as well listen like this isn't a catastrophic deal for stewart skinner because
Starting point is 02:11:11 3.75 is no longer a catastrophic amount of money it's still significantly below tristan jari uh but like here's the fact last year with pittsburgh he was 12 9 and 5 with an 8 8 5 save percentage what about edmonton he was i'm surprised he played this many games in edmonton he was 11 8 and 4 with an 891 which actually legitimately they should have just kept him yeah of course they should have just they'd be big players today keep jari out of it they should have just kept him he would have been their playoff starter oof what a mess like i think about this in the context of the Oilers less than the Jets and that's not how I should be looking at it here's the thing like when you have a top five goalie in the world which is insulting for Hellebuck it's top three
Starting point is 02:12:04 probably maybe even top one unless you're Jesse then he's washed um that goalie kind of becomes your identity if the Jets end up trading Hellebuck which I think they will your identity changes the kind of team you are changes and you gotta figure things out a little differently you don't have superman back there anymore no one's there to save the day it's gotta be you it's got it you gotta make life a little easier for your goalie because if you treat stuart skinner and eric comrie the way that you treat connor hellebuck you're going to die jesse do you think that affects josh norris's point totals next year josh norris norrisy i mean that's that's valid right like harder to play offensive defenseman when you're having to bail out your goalie a little
Starting point is 02:12:59 so i i'm probably in the minority here that this leaves their options open to keeping hellebuck because i don't think it's too bad if your backup goalie is 3.75 stewart skinner it's not and if $8 million, Hellebuck is your starting goaltender. I think that's fine if you're spending that much on your goalies when one of them is Hellebuck. And Stuart Skinner, I think, is an upgrade on a backup goalie. I think he's better than what a backup goalie should be. I think he could play a 1B role in most systems.
Starting point is 02:13:30 So if this is what they end up with in training camp, it's not bad at all. I didn't realize Eric Homery was actually out of a contract. He has a UFA. Yeah, he unfollowed the Jets this morning. Oh, he's done. on NHL follow tracker had that one. So that's
Starting point is 02:13:46 how that's done. I'm just so I'm a little confused. I don't know if Skinner played 50 games last year. Oh, yeah, he was playing. I'm going to go out on a limb and say that's too much. It's also the fourth time he's done that. I'm a little I think unsure is the better word
Starting point is 02:14:02 about how the Jets are going to perform this upcoming season because they took such a big drop off from what they were in the President's Trophy year to what they were last year and that is due to just you're missing you lost some pieces from year to year but they just i don't know if they've done anything yet to make me believe that they're going to be back into a playoff team unless hellebuck is just incredible and it doesn't allow any goals yeah they're incredibly incomplete it's kind of crazy they're not done it is crazy
Starting point is 02:14:30 how that fall has happened though yeah now let's switch gears and let's talk about sammy arison who a week ago was a leaf and he was a part of the joseph wall thing uh trade but you know ultimately sometimes you got to trade contracts uh because you only got you know the limited 50 contract slots and i think that's why he was included toronto then dealt him to ottawa and i think they got a sixth round pick out of it which is fifth which is incredible business considering the fact that they were never going to sign him now when you find out what he's going to make you can understand why toronto was not going to sign him other than you know his play uh two years 2.2 million dollars with the senator so he's gonna back up lenis uh and sam arison when
Starting point is 02:15:14 carter hart was taken out of the league for reasons we know a couple of years ago had a pretty good season well even before that like but here's the thing what were the numbers before and then and then go to the numbers what happened so he was an 899 in his first 12 games then i believe it was the heart season where arson had to play a completely unhinged 51 games that was never supposed to happen because after heart it was arson and oh okay let's put felix sandstrom in 823 unplayable let's put cal peterson in 863 unplayable let's put ivan fedotov in 811 and unplayable so urson they just played the complete wheels off him he had an 890 which was by far uh the best goalie then these past two seasons in 883 and last year he was an 870 which
Starting point is 02:16:04 is utter misery i'm not surprised he got a contract because he's still like 26 he's played too many games for this point in his career he was on the four nations roster like he's obviously highly thought of and uh would have would have the connection to all mark i am surprised he got a raise jess ottawa was a team you followed pretty closely last year and then in the playoffs goaltending was their achilles heel except for the playoffs because lenis was a standout in the playoffs yeah uh i don't like it on the surface in that that's exactly where you struggled with their team besides goaltending they have so many they were so good last year and levy marilinen isn't an option anymore yeah and when you consider this is the guy you're going with over
Starting point is 02:16:57 your non-options it doesn't feel like you're making a smart bet well i feel like you should have got you should have went with something that was a little more sure for the role behind almost is the money waiver protection too because who's gonna who's gonna who's gonna i think you're good like if because levy marylinan is 23 and is an rfa and if you are going to resign him i know you say he's a non-option uh and you're probably right but like this clearly the organization believes in him if levy's going to come in and try to take a job and you want to send sam arison down who's claiming him at that right but you like there it's a non-option like you can't start the year with that being your plan because that was your plan last year and
Starting point is 02:17:37 for the times he had to be your starter and your backup it wasn't good at all so you are doing a disservice to your fan base and your in your organization if that's your option but this isn't a good secondary option i would have liked somebody with a little more proven track record yeah in that role because that role sunk you so it is very important for your team airson as a pure backup i think could be something like i think it could be good for him i think it could be good for the sins there's a lot of work to do he's played the second most games out of goalies from his draft class behind lucas dostol um he's played too much he was never he's a fifth round pick from 2018 like he was never meant to play the amount of games that he currently has and i wonder
Starting point is 02:18:18 if he had a more normal reasonable career path if we think of him a little more highly yeah but when opportunity knocks you got to take it next man up okay so sdpn's uh free agency will continue and obviously we've got our live stream tonight that's going to count as our podcast for this week and or at least on wednesday's podcast for this week and we are going to start at around 4 30 or 4 45 so be sure to tune in for that we will see you then devin levi and a seventh pick to edmonton for a third rounder do we know what year both of them are 2028 oh okay so a couple years from now the goal the oilers get their man is what people said i like that risk for the oilers i mean not even risk like because he doesn't make anything it's a it's a project
Starting point is 02:19:01 um what an unfortunate end to all of this for buffalo this he was supposed to be the guy he was he was supposed to be the guy and like you didn't get a great return for sam reinhardt but there's this goalie who's a seventh round pick who's involved in that trade and he might end up being awesome and it looked like he was going to be awesome and looked like he was going to be their starting goalie and now he like can't even get into ahl games um i sincerely hope this guy goes to edmonton and he finds his uh his game i have a question for the two of you because i don't have the answer okay why did they have to do this right now do you know who the oilers i think the buffalo sabers obviously the oilers i think the sabers were probably offered a third round pick and
Starting point is 02:19:51 thought why not um i think it was edmonton that had to do this today yeah so but like why would the sabers be willing to just give up on because you got an offer for him and you might as well he's an rfa really that's the reason they're trading him before he has absolutely no value left so he played 52 games in the ahl this past season which is a ton they're just giving this guy the net how many how many is that 52 it's a it's a what it's a ton it's a ton ton and he was 23 20 and 9 with a 904 save percentage like i don't know so so okay there's an answer there's so it's an escape hatch for devin levi because the promise of him being the next one you they probably feel that he's not going to live up to that yep so let's go recoup a third round pick
Starting point is 02:20:41 for the seventh round pick that we drafted and we sold magic beans to the edmonton oilers and it was somewhat contentious i there was a clip that went around i think it was much it's either much earlier this season or it was last season um i think it was with rochester americans coach mike leone yeah i know the clip and he was basically just like he needs to be better yeah right and they're pushing this guy they're pushing them they're pushing them which i totally understand for what he's supposed to be um he ain't it and like you know we keep talking about canada struggling so bad in net and whatever happened to the goalie factory that was the province of quebec i mean this guy was supposed to be the medicine uh for that he was supposed
Starting point is 02:21:25 to be the antidote and now here he is 24 years old he didn't play a game in the nhl last year it's i love this risk for the oilers because there's no risk they will not miss that third pick who gives a damn right really all they did is they moved up or rather the sabers moved up in the 2028 draft yeah this makes so much sense for the oilers like i think the obvious is the tremendous upside for the oilers on just like hey send that draft pick out you might have you might have picked up where buffalo left off and you might have be able to develop this into a really good goaltender it's just the buffalo size the questions for me but i i understand your reasoning on like hey let's get out of this can i could i could see buffalo um trading the pick in some
Starting point is 02:22:08 sort of package for someone else because like a boat's a boat the mystery box could be anything it could even be a boat okay do you want this goalie who i don't know or i have another idea i'm gonna give you the opportunity to show the world how smart you are i'm gonna give you a third round pick and because you're so smart you're gonna pick the next hall of fame player with it right so it's cumulatively sad for buffalo but in the moment i understand why they made this move okay question you've got a year to show connor mcdavid right i know he's got two years but let's be honest just like the lease with matthews you've got a year to go we're going for it we're winning
Starting point is 02:22:56 you brought in the coach you wanted right connor uh mike babcock yeah so there's i guess there's two names i want to ask about you are going to camp with tristan jari and devin levi and maybe connor ingram too ingram's gone ingram is gone oh did he sign elsewhere yeah he okay oh did he i didn't even see that today that everything has happened yeah so i so this is your is this the plan surely there's got to be more to it like i because i think the reason this had to happen today for edmonton is that stan bowman hasn't done anything and the oilers need to show they did something they need to show they did something darnell nurse has held them up you look at what's happening here they needed to move him he gave him three teams philadelphia was interested but
Starting point is 02:23:40 when warinski became available when john carlson might have become available john carlson i don't think it's signed yet you know they're like well oh yeah darnell we'll get to you but like we're not in any rush and also that you can be traded to three teams and we're the only one who's interested i think the oilers are kind of screwed by the fact that they did not get that business done earlier in the offseason and maybe they could have done more had they just agreed to retain can i give you an unhinged one give me an unhinged one halibut to edmonton why the hell not well i mean if he's willing to wave which apparently he is so this is this is the thing you why are you leaving winnipeg uh because you want to win yeah there's lots there's lots of answers to that but
Starting point is 02:24:18 i think for connor hellebuck who just won a gold medal and was fantastic in that game you want to win what we've discussed recently is i can't believe that over the last half decade or so no goalie top 15 goalie in the league has just decided to win a cup decide if connor hellebuck waves to edmonton he's deciding to win a cup yes you're winning no question you're winning When Bobrovsky went to Florida, he was the first one in the door for the cup run. Florida stunk. They were terrible. People forget about what they were when he signed there.
Starting point is 02:24:53 And when he signed there, he was like, I can't wait to win cups in Florida. Everybody was like, LOL. LOL. And then he wasn't all that great at first. No, he wasn't. It took a minute and he got injured like everyone said he would. And then he turned into something. But so you think Conor is special.
Starting point is 02:25:07 So Conor Ingram, by the way, it doesn't look like he signed with anyone. Oh, yeah. So what Mark Spector says, and Conor Ingram has apparently gone from Edmonton, he says, Conor Ingram goes to market. Negotiations with Oilers were not fruitful, would have liked to have remained an Oiler. This tells us Oilers have settled elsewhere on a net mine. And it's Devin Levi. And shortly, oh boy.
Starting point is 02:25:28 Now, I will say this for the Oilers. As of 20 minutes ago, I'm incorrect, Darnold Nurse has agreed to expand his teams, of which he will accept a trade to. But guys, we're running out of dance partners here, right? That's also what happens. Now, listen, nobody's going to be capped out this year or very few teams are going to be capped out this year because the cap is rising so fast. But I think is it like, let me ask you this PR wise. Do you want to be Stan Bowman in front of the last time you talked to the Oilers media?
Starting point is 02:25:54 It was introduced Mike Babcock. And we went through how intense that press conference was just Ryan Rashad with a double barrel off the top. And then Mark Spector immediately with another double barrel. Is that what you want to do when you talk to the Oilers media later today? because you are talking oh man like is this is this your move san jose by the way is apparently interested in darnell nurse there could be some mutual interest there i'm just saying you almost need a secondary gm to handle your goalie situation like i'm not i'm not i'm not even kidding like the amount of scouts you speak to yep or coaches who like hockey's been their
Starting point is 02:26:32 entire life yes and you're like what do you think of this goalie and they're like don't ask me about goalies the amount of time like dude i've been doing this for 19 years like you know how many people i've met the amount of just regular hockey people who can talk to you about wingers and centers and d they have no idea what makes goalies tick what makes them good what makes them have an off day they don't understand any of it you talk to a goalie expert it's kind of the opposite right don't ask me how mcdavid is good just give me the goalie guy i'm gonna talk to you about the goalies you almost like because very clearly the jari move is in context it's one of the worst moves it was at the time a bad move we were all like this is desperate was he uh no it was it was
Starting point is 02:27:18 but if jari kept up his unrealistically hot start in pittsburgh it's it's a it's a career defining move for a guy who's already got three cups instead it is one of the worst moves the franchise has ever made so in contact so we'll see what happens but if this is the only move the oilers make it's gonna be a real interesting day uh at edmonton pete press conferences by jari levi like is that is that good enough you know what david in 2020 in 2020 people have been like you know i don't mind that i'd sooner start levi than jari like what cj was in here he was sitting in this chair and I go where does Jari play next season and he goes or I said where does he begin next season he goes Edmonton I was not talking about him getting traded I was talking about Bakersfield
Starting point is 02:28:09 yeah it's gonna be interesting I I think it's Levi and you need to now go out and get a third goalie or no a second goalie there you go Jari is not an option for you all right so we'll see what the Oilers do I mean it could still happen uh and it's interesting that you mentioned that because Eric Comrie just signed in San Jose. Perhaps a goalie coming back for Darnell Nurse. I don't know. We'll see. SDPN's trade coverage, well, trade coverage,
Starting point is 02:28:33 free agency coverage continues. We're going to have our live stream around 4.30, 4.45 this afternoon. That'll count as our podcast. We'll go through winners and losers, all that sort of stuff. But in the meantime, keep it locked here because we've got so many more things to talk about. Sergey Bobrovsky, Teddy Bluger. Who else?
Starting point is 02:28:51 Colton Sissons. Colton Sissons. Jack Roslevic. And Jack Roslevic and Brandon Duhaime. Holy moly, that's a lot of money. All right, let's start with this. Teddy Bluger, $2.5 million, two-year contract. Colton Sisson, $4.25 million, two-year contract.
Starting point is 02:29:05 Sergei Bobrovsky, $7 million, three, $7 million AAV, three-year. And then Roslevic, $4 million, two-year. And then the last one, Matty, there we go. Oh, that's Troy Stetcher. No, we don't want Troy Stetcher. As happy as we are that Troy Stetcher's back. He's probably not even loaded yet.
Starting point is 02:29:20 Brandon Duhame, by the way, who's not loaded yet. Brandon Duhame, three-year contract. Oh. $1.85 million. Okay. So let's just take it as the order has it there. Let's start with Sergey Bobrovsky, who's obviously the biggest signing of the day for the Toronto Maple Leafs.
Starting point is 02:29:38 This had been rumored, and it turns out that that picture of it on the Jumbotron, I think Frank Cervalli tweeted that out. That was real. Hey, guys. Little inside info. People prepare things. That's correct. corporations have employees who prepare things yeah yeah it wasn't this isn't some huge deal
Starting point is 02:29:56 no if you were going to pitch someone on signing in toronto you're gonna put a giant frig off thing of them on the jumbotron yep because bob has never been here apparently your social team has to prepare graphics for when the tweet goes out and then you're gonna send it to him yeah and also let's pretend there was tampering i don't give a damn your team's been tampering as long as mine So here's what I want to ask you. I want to ask you about this. OK, you know, I am. I tweeted out that I was really excited about this Bobrovsky deal.
Starting point is 02:30:27 Now, I want you to imagine for a second that I was exhausted. That that I was described as a pill. I would never that I that I am frustrating generally to deal with. OK, all right. Why do we like this deal? Because there's a lot of reasons based on recency bias, especially last season, that we shouldn't like this deal. uh wasn't it like an 870 save percentage or something last year 877 oh that's awful oh
Starting point is 02:30:54 that's not good why do we want to pay seven million dollars for a 38 year old to give us an 870 steve dangle and jesse blake played a completely insane amount of games on a team that was going nowhere just rapid speeds yeah oh why would we want to do it sorry i thought you were continuing you were supposed to provide the defense yeah why sergey damn bobrovsky like everyone's going on so this past season is the only thing that exists and it's the only thing that matters the three straight stanley cup finals and two straight stanley cups before it do not matter they never happen you're saying people are acting like that they're a figment of your imagination now now listen listen i'm not here to tell you you're stupid for disliking the deal
Starting point is 02:31:38 there's absolutely risk involved here he's 37 and a lot of people are going to say he's 37 and i got terrible news when the season begins he's going to be 38 the leafs have gotten burned on three-year deals for old guys ryan reeves didn't finish the deal patrick marlo didn't finish the deal and it cost them seth jarvis it didn't have to they just made a bad well they did yep they did right um this is a really old guy here's the theory if you well first of all if you make the playoffs he's bob yep i've been saying for months now if you have two starters you have none yes right yep should it be stoller should be wall you have none you don't if you can't think of who your starter is you do not have a starter you have a guy who can fill in you got a guy who can pretend to be a
Starting point is 02:32:28 starter for a little while Sergey Bobrovsky's a starter Anthony Stolarz is now a backup we're stopping that silly game where we break this man yep okay now here's the other problem Artur Aktymov doesn't need waivers he'll go down to the Marlies he just won AHL playoff MVP Dennis Hildeby needs waivers yes he does so he's a trade ship he's getting traded well not not or what or well exactly because wool went for nothing Levi went for nothing just have three goalies right you have uh is is Sergey Bobrovsky gonna be the oldest starting goalie in the league uh yeah I think so yep and then you got Stollers who is just so breakable yes I have and Hildeby some of you're gonna be like you're putting too much time into Dennis
Starting point is 02:33:16 Hildeby out of goalies who played 20 or more games had the third highest save percentage in the NHL last year on a team that's I would not lose this player for nothing I'll go further I would not lose this player Jesse what do you think here I agree with Steve but kind of for like the opposite reasons of what you're saying because I think you you made the defense for like they don't need the starter like I don't think Bobrovsky is the starter because they have the three guys I think that makes it so easy on Bobrovsky not to be the number one be a 30 gamer yeah and then but when we get to the playoffs we know who we're leaning on yes this this is the goal now you got to make the playoffs is going to be the criticism and honestly I don't have a defense of it it's
Starting point is 02:34:03 valid at the end of the day this plan doesn't work and this plan is a failure if they don't make the playoffs if they do this is what it's set up to be yeah and what you're outlining is kind of what carolina did last year carolina's kind of always had a three goalie thing that they're kind of comfy with and i think things worked out for carolina last year when they got to the playoffs they're like okay let's ride freddie until we don't have to anymore and i think toronto's set up for the modern goaltender system where it's not just one guy it's a collection of individuals and i think they should go with three guys because you can't trust strollers hildeby's young and then you have boroski who's old but you can probably trust him a lot you
Starting point is 02:34:44 you all you can do it because luck the sport should just be called luck it like you can set up as many contingencies as you want um you have four goalies who i'd be comfortable playing uh right now not just three yeah um like carolina's situation like it's funny you bring them up listen they won the stanley cup no one ever likes to talk about the stanley cup champions having an element of luck they all do they had an element first they started the playoffs with freddie anderson which was an at the time insane decision he's spectacular they get to the cup final he's brutal they throw in bussy they threw in brandon who was a waiver claim who was a waiver claim who hadn't played an nhl game before this season yeah and then they win the cup and he's incredible
Starting point is 02:35:32 right there's an element of luck here and all you can do is prepare yourself with an abundance of good goalies and a lot of people look at it and they say he's 37 and there's four years i don't care about the back two years oh three years yeah not even four i don't care about the last year i care about the first two where austin matthews is still under contract those are the important years you have to go for it and the last time the toronto maple leaf signed a 37 year old goaltender he finished third in heart trophy or vesna voting that year that's ed belfort belfort So Belfort was nominated for the Vesna third. I knew he was.
Starting point is 02:36:05 Wow. Yeah, that worked out for them. I knew he was good. I don't know if Bobrovsky is going to finish third in Vesna voting in his age 37 season signing as a free agent for the Leafs. But I have good memories of Belfort. Wouldn't it be great if even if he doesn't have to write? That's OK.
Starting point is 02:36:22 That's the big thing. I don't need him to win a Vesna. I need him to win rounds of playoffs. And he is a dog in the playoffs. There's no question. Steve, just give me Bobrovsky's playoff numbers the last two seasons they were in the playoffs. And then we're going to move on to some of the other guys on this list. He was 16-5-2, which is to say 16-7, with a 9-14.
Starting point is 02:36:41 And he was 16-8 with a 9-06. That's pretty good in the playoffs, I think. Now, Jesse, bring up the big list of free agents that we just had. Because I think we got to talk a little bit. You know what, Steve? We'll move to Colton Sissons. Yes. Two years, $4.25 million.
Starting point is 02:36:55 He had a really great run with the Vegas Golden Knights in the playoffs on that Nick Dowd line. They were really spectacular. I thought he was a demon. And people are saying this is high. He's a forward, not a demon. Yeah. Shut up.
Starting point is 02:37:11 You sure you're not a dad? Anyway. I'm a dog dad. That's what I am. Let me know. What do we think? Is it too much money? Oh, it's a lot.
Starting point is 02:37:20 This is the problem. This is in our new cap world. like remember when conf got 2.5 million dollars and we were like what the hell are you doing yeah this isn't all that dissimilar but it's two years uh he's right-handed which comes at a premium he's got 750 plus games of nhl experience he's got two stanley cup finals under his belt um he's a tenacious player he can skate uh is it a little too much yeah the leafs the leafs can afford a little too much i'm i'm really not bothered by it okay i'm not it's a lot for your fourth line center it is i think there's a potential that he plays a little more than that okay well okay
Starting point is 02:37:59 maybe third line center sometimes third line right wing but you're not expecting him to score well you're expecting him to take defensive zone face offs away from austin matthews take defensive zone face offs away from austin matthews and one thing that was a strength for the leafs last year and they had very few of them was their penalty kill and they've lost a lot of the guys who made their penalty kill special yep um up front and on d um so they need to rebuild that and he was a big huge part of vegas's penalty kill this past season i want to ask about did we do ross levick in its own video or i can't remember okay okay so i don't know so let's move on to i don't know how many videos we've made let's move on let's move on to a guy who i really loved in the vancouver playoff
Starting point is 02:38:40 run a couple years ago uh and i think his is is underrated and frankly uh justin fisher put it to was uh he's like he's like do you think you overpaid for colton scissors i was a guess and he's like do you think you underpaid for teddy bluger i said potentially he's like what if i told you you could get both for six and a half million dollars and i said i'd be okay with that and that's what we got here so it all comes down the walk yeah teddy bluger two years 2.5 million aav that's 2.4 percent of the cap because we're going up baby joders blugers now this guy is mr motor he is a penalty killer what kind of a role do you see him playing and don't you guys think it's interesting that they just keep signing centerman i think it's funny they keep signing
Starting point is 02:39:21 centerman and i think we all need to acknowledge that john chica has increased the leafs latvian by three thousand percent that's true they just drafted patrick's plumage yeah um they invited another latvian goalie to camp which means i think they have probably a quarter of the latvian goalies in the world um and now they have uh teddy bluger um who stanley cup winner yep found his way into who do you win the cup with vegas oh he found his way into lfr lore uh when i was like who the hell is this random guy who pittsburgh signed out of like boston college or something like that's an all-american name yeah and it's not even his real name yeah yeah she orders losers but he dropped the S and Nick called himself Teddy
Starting point is 02:40:11 I want to I want to know okay so if Sissons is going to be I think he's going to be the third line centerman right Teddy Bluger fourth line center is that how we see this laying out Jesse Steve I don't have a read because like there's grew in
Starting point is 02:40:28 there as well Lorenz can play either wing so like is your is your fourth line like Bluger on the left maybe sissons in the middle and lorenz on the right this might help so puck peter currently has it listed mckenna matthews nize cowan tavarez nylander joshua sissons roslovich lorenz bluger quillen i think that third line is more offensive capability than it appears well josh joshua
Starting point is 02:40:56 if he's healthy and that's the big if uh he's pretty valuable right like that's a guy that you're like i don't think it's that big an if like the the two reasons he missed time where well he had testicular cancer and then he freaking lacerated his spleen like that's that's horrible freaking luck and there's that word again um sissons i don't know if he's an ideal third line center he can do it he might just be what's available and again if you can get tavaris and matthews all the ozone starts then you don't care right if you that's how you got to tilt it for now i mean if that's how you do it like it forget lines one through four maybe it's offense one offense two defense one defense two yep now let's move on to jesse let's bring up
Starting point is 02:41:44 the big old board of free agent signings uh one more time here you want to do hame i want to do hame now he is a three-year elliot uh actually put it at 1.85 million it's actually 2.6 million dollars per year for brandon do hame over the next three years so a little bit more expensive he is oh my goodness first season that's a lot of money and he is he's playing a non-premium position but here's the thing about brandon duhaime that people like uh he's a big mean guy who's fast oh was duhaime he wasn't even on our yeah he'd be in place of quillen on what we just yes he wasn't on that for a group right so you're you're looking at bluger but if you include quillen lorenz and duane somebody's got to get scratched somebody's got to get scratched but
Starting point is 02:42:26 also i think there's a lot of speed there right like bluger's got a motor sissons can skate duhaime can really skate maybe lorenz is the healthy potentially you know maybe like he's definitely he's part of the reason that bob signed here right is so what's the connection supposedly the way it worked is uh bob loved being goalie partners with stolars why wouldn't he they won back-to-back cups together um but like it's a skill to be a backup to a starter and obviously he put bob in his happy place and i wonder if this past season like i am shocked that sergey bobrovsky's coming here this is not where i thought his career was going to take him to me that says he loves stolars and also he likes lorenz lorenz what lorenz was his i was
Starting point is 02:43:10 getting to it oh sorry lorenz was his supposedly practice shooter okay so whenever he needed someone to work out with it's lorenz taking shots right okay yeah so and i assume most of those shots weren't on the breakaway because oh my god he led the league in breakaways and couldn't score it was so frustrating yeah um uh that's why bob came here uh i don't know if that means lorenz is gonna make the lineup but no but like i don't think he's gonna like i got a text like oh i bet he's getting traded no he's not no right he's he's part of the reason that bob is here going back to brandon duane he was second on the washington capitals in hits this past season uh behind tom wilson he had 159 uh in 82 games over the past or sorry two seasons ago he was also second to tom wilson
Starting point is 02:44:00 so wow probably leads a lot of teams if it weren't for tom freaking wilson uh he led the capitals forwards in blocks from this past season uh with 57 so and again this is a guy who he was sixth among caps forwards in shorthanded ice time which is not a huge penalty killer but we're seeing how they're rebuilding the penalty kill yeah sissons is going to be part of that bluger is going to be part of that duane is absolutely going to be part of that a guy i had my eye on as a free agent who ended up making more than duane and i would have been happy to pay the price was beck malenstein i i wanted him to shake loose from buffalo big time they couldn't get him so now now you get brandon duane who it's too much money for the production um is it though his career high is
Starting point is 02:44:53 21 points it's a three-year deal in a couple of years like it's it's 2.5 of the cap today he had all he played all 82 games last year he had nine points yeah but what about what about you know next year and the year after too you're looking at you're looking at i mean a guy that's going to be worth about two percent of the cap on your fourth line i think that makes sense i'm not i'm not worried about it he skates well for a big guy hits blocks you need those guys for your percent of the caps the the last year he made 2.1 percent and that was when he made 1.85 million so then this year at 2.6 million it's 2.5 percent so it's a 0.4 jump in percent of the cap but it's going to go back down to where you
Starting point is 02:45:30 wanted Adam as the years go on that's going to get closer to what 1.8 was last season you will always overpay for free agents yeah like that's just the way but it's going to regress back to where it should be in terms of percentage of the cap the cap is going up in such a way that like I don't think any of the
Starting point is 02:45:46 deals signed today are going to make or break you maybe Bob but yeah like maybe day or day well sorry I meant for Toronto there's some breakable deals out there there's some deals that teams sign that I think are pretty bad okay I want to say I want to ask this
Starting point is 02:46:03 guys so we're looking at we're looking at this team and you gotta I gotta say this so we got a we got a fourth line a checking line easy to put together now something that man have they struggled with putting a checking line together problem is contenders have three lines that can produce often yeah
Starting point is 02:46:19 do the Leafs have that yet you got Rossovic down there potentially he might be in your top six Roslevic like maybe maybe Cowan is pushed down Joshua's not a huge score he can he can Sissons isn't a huge score he can Roslevic
Starting point is 02:46:37 I'm still looking at a lineup that doesn't make a ton of sense and to me Cowan switch Cowan and Nize that because I think Nize will be playing at the left side and then Cowan will be playing the right because Cowan prefers the right so you know to me they still have work to do here
Starting point is 02:46:53 and you know I also think the cap space that's available tells me that they you know with the signings they've made i think they've got to be thinking that morgan riley's out the door because i think that they're going to want a little bit more cap space than what they have currently right yeah what what do they add oh my god now remember there's 580 000 no domey on ltir right now yes right we don't know where that's going to stand and we've got morgan riley still in the roster it's i'm sure there's others i think a good roster is it is it enough and and that's going to be a real question Don't forget, Andre and Quillen need contracts.
Starting point is 02:47:27 Yeah, and last thing I want to do before we kind of wrap this video is what does this tell us about the way the Leafs want to play? What do these signings say? Because to me... They're going to be faster than they were last year. They sure are. That's instantly what I thought. I think they're going back a little bit to an east-west, too.
Starting point is 02:47:42 Faster, more tenacious. You think they're going to be a little more east-west? A little more through the neutral zone. Like, they're not just going to come straight at you. They might try to finesse a little more. It was more northeast-southwest, northeast-southwest because they kept getting cycled into oblivion in their own zone. Yes.
Starting point is 02:47:56 Yeah. So Jesse, what do you think less of that? I'm still a question mark on how Jim Hiller is going to change his style of hockey because L.A. was so defensive based. I don't know if if Toronto is going to do that again. You know, I feel like maybe he'll he'll change his style from what he's learned in L.A. So I'm still waiting for training camp to see that. I don't got really guesses on that.
Starting point is 02:48:19 OK, well, we're not done yet. It's free agency. it's sdpn and our live stream starts pretty soon here it's going to be 430 to 445 no way the leafs are done like no they have a lot to do there to make some cast space to sign andre and quillen and morgan's probably the answer they're done today at max yeah at max exactly yeah this this is an unfinished product so uh we will see you for that live stream it's coming up soon 430 445 yeah sdp and youtube ladies and gentlemen the leafs have made a trade after we did our leafs video steve and jesse do not know what the trade is no i didn't want to keep it a secret
Starting point is 02:48:53 who's the team uh tampa remember the people watching already know so let's not spend much time okay all right 2028 third round pick going to tampa 2027 fourth round pick going to tampa dennis hildeby going to tampa wow for who delete the last video shit don't do that um i have moser i have no idea i don't i don't know definitely not i have no i don't i don't know okay so let's think about uh jesse give me give me a guess give me a guess just no idea okay um can you just give us the thorn in the leaf side every time he plays nick paul nick paul nick paul nick paul is a toronto maple leaf oh well there's your 3c slash 2c you think so that's fine he had
Starting point is 02:49:47 41 points in the 24 25 season they have him listed as a left wing um but i guess he can take centers to our face offs too i've had they also have a lot of center we've had zero time to research this but yes he's regularly over 50 so do we like the nick paul move i mean i don't even know what the guy makes yeah i will say so in the um in the montreal tampa series nick paul didn't play in every game if i remember correct they were a totally different team without him okay tell me why better worse uh oh my god there were if you imagine oh man so much they were so much better without him holy cow what were they playing him for no the opposite uh tampa was a much better team they had so much more of the pucks they were so much faster they were just on you on you on you
Starting point is 02:50:38 this match is exactly what the leafs want to be i'm frankly surprised tampa would trade them in division well it looks like tampa needed some cap room nick paul by the way uh a couple of years ago do the leafs have that two years in a row no they have they're in the negative right now but i think that means max domey's probably not playing next season and they're probably moving uh morgan riley at some point 24 goals in 23 24 uh in 24 25 he had 22 goals a bit of a step back last year seven and eight i think he was hurt uh but 46 and 41 points you hope he gets back to that jesse what do you like about nick paul do you like this deal the leafs actually got somebody for a goaltender that's surprising what do we think i'm surprised that they moved off of hill to be so quickly
Starting point is 02:51:17 i i thought the three goalie thing was gonna be a thing but it still might be it could be sure i don't think so anymore they sign a guy if they were gonna go with that they would have gone with hildeby i think you had them on the roster i think you're right do that so i think they are committed to stallers and bob which is a stanley cup winning duo so i don't hate their goaltending situation at all and that was a place of strength for the leafs and that's what we kind of asked for them going into this offseason to do is like you have wall installers and actim of aktiyamov and hildeby and all of this goalie gluttony why not move that i like to goalie make your four group better because that's the place where you really struggled and that's what
Starting point is 02:52:00 is doing so in retrospect i can't hate it even though like hildeby was many stallers in terms of his build he was like two just massive goaltenders and talking to him in the locker room he'd always say about how he watches stallers so closely to build a game off of that because they're so similar in body type that he can learn so much and he's getting so much better by being up with the Leafs and watching Stallers so you're not going to get that growth from him anymore which I think was just going to keep going he's going to be a really good but he's not a kid he's like 26 isn't he yeah but goaltenders peak at different yeah you're right uh 25 now Nick Paul he so sorry for for Tampa fans Dennis Hildeby once again this is the stat I like to trot out
Starting point is 02:52:37 but I haven't seen anyone say it uh out of goalies who play 20 or more games Hildeby played exactly 20 dennis hildeby finished third in the entire nhl in safe percentage oh i believe was he ahead of vasilevsky i'm not sure he's it was wedgewood and it might have been vasilevsky ahead of him he's he's great like last season he really came into his own and while he was up with the big team archer aktimov was playing more and more games with the marlies to the point where he then became the starter heading into the calder cup playoffs anyone playoff mvp and behind him is the guy who had nhl experience and that's that's found value right like that's uh now all of a sudden you can that's move off of a goal but that's an upgrade on jonas johansson yo oh my god like this is good
Starting point is 02:53:24 for yes on the tampa side of things yeah you're getting a really good goaltender who's going to be fantastic behind vasilevsky but i like the move for the leafs to get nick paul back because i think nick paul is a fantastic 3.1 million worth mentioning jonas johansson is under contract for this upcoming season but i'm guessing he's he's about to be population waiver city 3.15 million dollars three more years for nick paul let's talk about nick paul the thorn in the side that he is he's first off he's six foot four he's 234 pounds oh yeah he's a very big boy um i know you said he was listed as left wing he was fourth on the tampa bay lightning in face-offs last season despite the fact he only played 51 games he had 557 so that's your third line with that i think he was 53 percent
Starting point is 02:54:07 in the draw 53.9 so really 54 53.9 percent in the draw which is fantastic like the when you just get to the little numbers above 50 like you're in the good ballpark for a center i think this is i think it's good for the leafs in terms of you need to bolster your four group that's what check has been doing all day long just getting these forwards who are an upgrade on the guys that they have so why not trade from a position of strength uh to address a weakness he did play on the he did play shorthanded a bit and he did play on the power play a bit so not not the biggest penalty killer no no but
Starting point is 02:54:39 there's well they got some of those yeah they got some of those today so you were asking I think it was you Jesse you were I don't remember better get this right talking about not screw this up oh you were talking about Jack Roslick oh I was okay now what did I say okay you were saying you want a player who's a little bit more versatile yes
Starting point is 02:54:56 I listen to my friends yes time for everything yeah Nick Paul is it's true Nick Paul is that a little more versatile and you know we were looking at the leaf center situation only a few minutes ago and i'm like i like sissons a lot but at 3c i'm not totally sure um nick paul is very obviously your 3c yeah yeah yeah yeah and i think that pushes sissons and roslovich into other places so roslovich does that mean you have i think he's a wing oh yeah you think he's a wing
Starting point is 02:55:27 with matthews that's yes i do okay and then start and then so okay let's i think that is so much fun in training camp oh that's great okay can we look at uh can we look at the third one we'll give me one second puck media is slow obviously because of all the news what is their problem um no i want to talk about that that third line for a second for the toronto maple leaves nick paul at the center of it you've got sizzins available who i think will probably now be the fourth line guy okay yes you also have speed from quillen if he's going to be a guy that you that you keep around my guess is he doesn't make the team okay he does he's an extra beau grew was really good for the toronto maple leafs i don't know where he fits i don't know where the hell he goes um you've also
Starting point is 02:56:04 got duhaime who i think you put you have as a fourth liner i've been trying to advocate the leafs push dakota joshua down to the fourth line and use him there could you have a teddy bluger nick paul colton sissons thing going on like although that offense is kind of where it goes to die like i could you trade dakota joshua well that's a good question i liked him i liked him when he was healthy i did oh me too now i'm starting to look at the cap situation and now i'm starting to wonder if it makes sense um i like i probably shouldn't get all tied up in beau grew but like he was so good he was so good in his audition with the leafs he was so good with the Marlies en route to a Calder Cup,
Starting point is 02:56:49 he's under contract for dirt cheap. Yep. Does it make more sense to get whatever you humanly possibly can for Dakota Joshua and free up that three-ish million dollars and you get Bo Groove for like league men or whatever?
Starting point is 02:57:05 If Roslevic is playing top line right wing with Matthews, you could have nice Matthews, Roslevic or McKenna, whatever. McKenna, Tavares, Nylander. At least that's where McKenna is going to start. Something like that. you could have joshua nick paul easton cowan that's annoying and then duhaime bluger colton
Starting point is 02:57:21 sissons also annoying incredibly annoying and a lot and lorenz is your extra yeah i think so and then you've got quillen and grew that you can work with so i i don't know it's a very interesting trade for them well you know heading into today i was like they have no forward depth and then they acquired five yeah makes it easier to move matthew nice shut your dirty mouth it's entirely possible now well good question do they even have the cap space for zach warrensky they are capped out right now they are yes but they're actually i think technically over the cap by a hundred grand they are i also think they're going to move morgan riley so i don't think you know and you could also move dakota josh as you said what nick paul where's
Starting point is 02:58:05 number 20 are you gonna have to is he gonna have to buy you a rolex for it yeah he is okay all right here camera on me yeah he is all right that's for all the shit from the senators and lightning yeah hey come here i remember 2022 you piece of listen it's all water under the bridge now you look great in blue and white you better keep looking great in blue and white i'm not happy with you make me happy all right let's do this uh we're gonna wrap it up i have a number we've got a stream to get to because it would look stupid with just a nameplate the stream starts in uh well very soon uh 4 30 or 4 45 depending upon when we get to it so this is our last quick video for the day and then a whole big stream awaits so stpn uh in like 20 minutes

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