The Steve Dangle Podcast - NHL Trade Deadline SDP Breakdowns Part 1 | March 8, 2024
Episode Date: March 8, 2024Check out the special offer BIOptimizers has to offer at https://www.Bioptimizers.com/dangle - Use Promo code: DANGLE for 10% off any order plus special gifts with purchase for a limited time only! O...n this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, it's part 1 of our trade breakdowns. Here is our analysis of the trades that went down on Wednesday and Thursday of the trade deadline: 00:00 Anthony Mantha from Washington to Vegas 11:45 Vladimir Tarasenko from Ottawa to Florida 18:15 Sean Walker from Philadelphia to Colorado 28:15 Adam Henrique from Anahiem to Edmonton 36:00 Alex Wennberg from Seattle to New York 47:00 Joel Edmundson from Washington to Toronto 58:30 Cade Webber from Carolina to Toronto 1:07:30 Noah Hanifin from Calgary to Vegas 1:20:30 Troy Stecher from Arizona to Edmonton 1:26:15 Yakov Trenin from Nashville to Colorado 1:31:30 Gustav Forlsing resigns in Florida 1:37:00 Anthony Beauvillier from Chicago to Nashville Join SDP VIP: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0a0z05HiddEn7k6OGnDprg/join Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/thestevedanglepodcast Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sdpvip/subscribe Visit https://www.betterhelp.com/sdp today to get 10% off your first month. Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Join us on Discord: https://discord.com/invite/MtTmw9rrz7 For general inquiries email: info@sdpn.ca Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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hey steve dangle podcast listeners today is friday and you are getting three podcasts from us wow
jesse that's so many podcasts that is so many podcasts the first one that you're actively
listening to right now are our trade videos from wednesday and thursday so on the sdpn youtube
channel youtube.com sdpn we release single videos for each trade and we've compiled them here and
here it is you can listen to them right now later on in the day you're going to get all of our trade
videos from friday and all the deals that happened that day and then tonight on friday you're going
to get a brand new steve dangle podcast it'll be about an hour ish yeah i think so yeah yeah and
like a normal show and that'll be our reactions to the day and everything else but yeah so this
is your first trade video from wednesday thursday trade video from friday is coming when all the
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about a big deal i i think it's a big deal it is literally a big deal in that it involves one of
the biggest players in the national hockey league anthony mantha is now a vegas golden knight that's
deal that happened last night and I'm glad I waited to shoot this because this morning
it was announced that Rasmus Sandin has signed a half decade extension with the Washington
Capitals. Vladimir Tarasenko has also been traded to the Florida Panthers, that will
be in the next video that I'm gonna shoot after this. The full deal is as follows. The
Vegas Golden Knights acquire Anthony Mantha, 6 foot 5 over 230 pounds. For their trouble
the Washington Capitals acquire a second round pick from the Vegas Golden Knights in 2024
and a fourth round pick from the Vegas Golden Knights in 2026. And with Mantha being a pending
UFA the Washington Capitals ate half of his remaining salary in order to do that. It's funny
I've already talked to some people about this deal and they've sarcastically said oh blockbuster.
What are you gonna learn man? What are you gonna learn? I think we've started thinking about trade
deadline deals all wrong. I think we've started to think about them from the perspective of the
selling team. Which is fine, if you cheer for the selling team, yeah! But I think sometimes
we think about a blockbuster deal having a blockbuster return involving superstar players.
But what if a deal doesn't necessarily have a blockbuster return, doesn't necessarily have a
superstar player, but gives the reigning Stanley Cup champions a super solid chance at repeating?
The Vegas Golden Knights acquired a winger last year to help them win the Stanley Cup.
Who was it? Exactly, Ivan Barbashev of course you remember and then he signed this big extension to
stay in Vegas and he's gonna be there forever. What'd they give up? Class? Can anyone? What
did the Vegas Golden Knights trade for Ivan Barbashev? Was it oh maybe it was a conditional
pick because he signed an extension? NO! It was a guy! Picks are not guys, they are future guys,
they're not guys yet. Zach Dean is who the Vegas Golden Knights traded. Zach Dean, the 30th overall
pick from 2021. Lo and behold, Barbashev was completely perfect for the Vegas Golden Knights
lineup, was a huge part of them winning the 2023 Stanley Cup, the first Stanley Cup in franchise
history and now they go out and they get Anthony Mantha. I think we also need to adjust our
expectations for Anthony Mantha a little bit because he's almost got a bit of an air of being
a bust around him. Like I mean he's almost 30 years old now, he's certainly not a prospect
anymore and once upon a time, first round pick, skilled forward, 6 foot 5. He had all the makings
of being a potential super duper star. And now here he is, well into his career. He's eclipsed
20 goals a few times. The Detroit Red Wings cut bait on him and traded him after the covid
shutdown. The covid shortened season. The second one. But he has 34 points in 56 games so far this
season which is decent, maybe not mind-blowing, but 20 of those 34 points are goals. And those
20 goals are already the third highest total of his career and there's a really solid chance he
hits a career high because his second is 24 and his best season is 25. And did I mention he's
6 foot 5 230 pounds! Actually the websites I've found listed him over 230 pounds but 234 according
to HockeyDB sounded weirdly specific. Just because he's not the 50 plus goal scorer that he was in
junior in the QMJHL does not mean Anthony Mantha cannot be an enormously helpful contributor for
the Vegas Golden Knights. And if you're wondering, hey does he use that 6'5 230 plus pound frame?
Yes! He beat the brakes off of Nick Cousins recently. That was cool. Oh the brakes and
wheels off of me did! Last year, famously, the Vegas Golden Knights won the Stanley Cup
with an entire roster. Every single player over 6 feet tall, except for the eventual
Conn Smythe winner, Jonathan Marcheseau. Hilarious. Anthony Mantha IS a Vegas Golden
Knight. I think this is a magical deal for them. Right now, according to Daily Faceoff,
he's listed on the Vegas Golden Knights third line with Nicolas Waugh in the middle and Paul
Cotter on the left wing and I have tweeted that Paul Cotter plays like ROAD RAGE. I mean,
look at them in the regular season, they're obviously a good team. They've hit a bit of a
slump recently obviously with the injury bug and everything but they're a good regular season team
that BUILDS for the playoffs. I think this is a great move for them. Maybe one thing to flag
though, in 11 career playoff games, Mantha has 6 points, all of them assists, no goals yet. The
first goal he scores in these playoffs, if he scores in these playoffs, will be his first.
From the Vegas Golden Knights end of it, dude. Look at their draft pick situation according to
capfriendly.com. They still have their first round pick in each of the next three seasons.
They don't have a second round pick this season now but they do in 2025 and 2026. They have all
their thirds for the next three years. They have one fourth remaining. These guys have a ton of
of picks at their disposal. Yeah their cap situation is a little bit of a mess but the
Vegas Golden Knights have really set themselves up for continued success. And yet there is
even more incentive to go all in this year despite winning the Stanley Cup last year.
This is the Vegas Golden Knights cap friendly page and it's gonna be a difficult offseason
for them. Jonathan Marcheseau making 5 million bucks, that's it. He won the Conn Smythe,
is a pending UFA. Mantha is a pending UFA. Chandler Stevenson is up for a raise, he only
makes 2.75 million. And then Michael Amadio has been really sneaky underrated for them.
He needs one. Byron Frey's up front as well. And Alec Martinez on the back end. Oof. That's
not to mention William Carrier who's on injured reserve right now. The Vegas Golden
Knights are gonna have to make some decisions this offseason. I don't think this is it
for Vegas. I don't think after this season they just stop contending. They're just
a really well run organization. But it sure feels like they're gonna get a whole new
look and you might as well just empty the cupboard this season to do it. The Washington
Capitals on the other hand, they look like a rebuilding team and a team that's doing
it well. Again, here's their draft pick situation according to CapFriendly. They have
all their first round picks for the next 3 years and good, they should. They're not
in a playoff spot right now. They don't have their own second rounder this year but
they do have Vegas's. Next year they have THREE their own, the Bruins and the Avalanche
and then obviously two years from now they have their own. Beyond the second round they
have at least one pick in every round for the next three years except for the seventh
round this year and next. That's really setting yourself up to recover quickly because
ah do you really want to waste the end of Alex Ovechkin's career? Like yeah you gotta
rebuild yeah you gotta bring in the next generation but you wanna TRY to make the playoffs. And
here's one way that they're trying to do it. The Washington Capitals have re-signed
defenseman Rasmus Sandin to a 5 year contract extension. Sandin's contract will carry
an average annual value of 4.6 MILLION per year. Now this year Rasmus Sandin's had
a pretty frustrating job when you think about it. He was traded away from the Toronto Maple
Leafs at last trade deadline and the Capitals ended up giving the Leafs a first round pick
in that deal. Strange for a rebuilding team but this accelerated it. Also it was a pretty
late first round pick and it wasn't even the Capitals own. The Leafs ended up drafting
Easton Cowan with it who now has an OHL record point streak. Erasmus Sandin is just 23 years
old he actually turns 24 tomorrow and he's basically in charge with being next in line
for running all things power play for the Washington Capitals. All things offense from
the back end. For a team that has really struggled to score this season. And check this out,
Sandin's been remarkably consistent. Rasmus Sandin's top offensive output came a few
seasons ago with the Toronto Maple Leafs. In 52 games, 4 goals, 16 assists for 20 points.
In those 52 games. In 52 games so far this season, 3 goals, 17 assists, 20 points. He's
got a great vision of the ice, he has some defensive deficiencies but the dude for not
a very big dude can CRUSH people with big hits. Even if you don't love Rasmus Sandin's
now, there is every reason to expect he is going to grow into an increased role with
the Washington Capitals. So! What do you think of today's news with the Washington Capitals?
Good? Bad? I just did the thumb the wrong way? And what do you think of the Anthem-
Anthem? Anthony Mantha! Anthony Mantha! What do you think of the Anthony Mantha acquisition
for the Vegas Golden Knights? Because I think it is absolutely perfect. For now, that is
it for this one. Thank you very much for watching, click like if you like this video, click
subscribe to SDPN gosh darn it. Tell all your friends that SDPN is the place to be all day
for the trade deadline on Friday and in the days leading up because we got even more stuff
to shoot right now.
The Vladimir Tarasenko show is on its way to Florida! The Florida Panthers acquire Vladimir
Tarasenko from the Ottawa Senators and it is a BANGER of a deal for the Panthers. Lot
of Sens fans not loving this one BUT is it THAT bad of a deal for the Senators or are
they just making the best of a situation that wasn't that great to begin with?
Well first and foremost, the player. Tarasenko going to Florida. And I didn't even realize
this, I knew Tarasenko was on a 1 year deal, I knew he was a pending unrestricted free
agent. I didn't know about the trade protection! Like Pierre Dorian's last little while in
Ottawa had some of the greatest hits. I mean the Alex Dobrynkat deal in and then out. For
a player who was never guaranteed to stay there, does this sound familiar at all? But
I guess what makes it different with Vladimir Tarasenko is he's on the back nine and Dobrynkat
they were HOPING could be a part of the Sens for the future. Tarasenko, he was a bit of
a hired gun. He could show up in Ottawa, inject a bit of offense to a team that should have
been scoring a whole hell of a lot. And then if he decides, hey this is a pretty good situation,
he sticks around. And I guess the decision that you had to make peace with at the time
when you were giving him trade protection is, if things don't work out. Whether he's
good or not but the TEAM is not doing that well. If you have to sell, you CAN trade him
he gets to tell you where he's going. Because what Ottawa gets out of this is a 3rd round pick
and a 4th round pick but the 4th rounder is conditional. Here's the full deal from Pierre
Lebrun. Ottawa retains 50% on Tarasenko in the trade with Florida so add that to it too.
Going to Ottawa from Florida, a 2024 4th round pick which becomes a 2026 3rd round pick if the
Panthers win the cup and a 2025 3rd round pick. Basically if the Florida Panthers win the Stanley
Stanley Cup, the Ottawa Senators third round pick uh, moves back two years but moves up
32 spots. Potentially more if there's expansion over the next couple years I guess. Look,
it's something. It's definitely something for the Florida Panthers who at times have
been talked about like they're a one line team or at very least there's a few guys
doing a lot of the offensive load. I really don't think the Panthers have many weaknesses,
I think they're a strong Stanley Cup contender. If there was one perceived weakness, at least
to me, a little bit of depth would be nice. Tarasenko? Perfect. Perfect. He adds to their
offense, he adds some experience because he won a Stanley Cup in 2019 don't you know.
And the dude is not washed! 17 goals and 24 assists for 41 points in 57 games so far with
the Sens. That's pretty good. How does he adjust to the Florida Panthers? Well, I guess
we'll see. In 69 games last season he only had 18 goals split between the Blues and the Rangers.
Only 8 of those goals coming in the 31 games that he played with the Rangers. But 21 points overall,
21 points in 31 games that's not bad. And he put up 3 goals and 1 assist for 4 points in 7 games
in the Rangers first round loss to the Devils. I mean this is Bill Zito just doing a great job
honestly. Not only does he identify like a good player, a solid player who you know can do it
because he's done it. He does it for a very cheap price. This dude looked around the NHL,
he looked at teams who were vulnerable, he looked at teams with unique situations and he said,
well Vladimir Tarasenko wants to move closer to his family, I'm gonna get him for cheap.
And that's not me assuming. Chris Johnston, one of the best in the biz of STPN fame,
of note with the Sens' modest return in the Vladimir Tarasenko deal to Florida,
a third plus a conditional fourth. The player had a strong say in the process courtesy of his
no trade clause. Really really tidy work from Florida. Now if you want a reason for some
optimism, for some sort of silver lining for the Senators, well first of all you get two picks
regardless. It's worse than a kick in the teeth, it's worse than nothing which was also an option
I guess. But Jason York, former Ottawa Senator, still talks about the Sens all the time. I thought
he had a really good uh insight here. Here's what he said on Twitter. People forget if Pinto didn't
get suspended the Sens probably would have had to move Joseph for peanuts. The Tarasenko deal
was dumb to begin with and you threw in a no trade just to make sure you handcuffed yourself
at the deadline. Big name chasing with no plan at its finest. Now I know what you're thinking,
Steve that doesn't sound like silver lining at all. Well it is! Number one, the dude who put you
in this position. The dude who signed Vladimir Tarasenko, gave him the trade protection and
everything, handcuffing you at the deadline and building a team that hasn't been able to contend
for a playoff spot this year, he's gone. That was Pierre Dorian, he's gone. So yes it was a mistake
to give Tarasenko that deal, it was a mistake to give him the trade protection, that's spilled
milk. The guy who signed that deal is no longer employed by the Ottawa Senators. At least he's
not the GM. Also the Shane Pinto situation, not good. The fact that the Sens are not in a playoff
spot, not good. But if you think about how it worked out, okay they were able to keep Joseph
and not trade him for Peanuts and that IS a piece who could build with you into the future.
And at least you get something for Tarasenko and alright it's looking a little rosier isn't it?
And it's not like the Sens want to tear this thing down to the the bones either. This year workout?
No, not at all. They want to be right back to contending for a playoff spot, at very least
being in the conversation next season. Not to mention there's still two days until the trade
deadline, who knows what else Ottawa has in store. And who knows if the Florida Panthers will add
even more because they did not break the bank for this one. Two thirds but potentially just
a third and a fourth? Half of Tarasenko's salary dude? They're a cup contender. They're absolutely
a cup contender. But for now, that is it for this one. Thank you very much for watching,
click like if you like this video, click subscribe to SDPN if you really liked it,
and tell all your friends that I got at least two more videos to shoot after this one and
maybe more because today is apparently the de facto trade deadline day. Except we're
gonna have trade deadline coverage on Friday. REGARDLESS! Even if there are no trades left,
we will talk at length about how things are shaping up. There will be content!
Alright! Well apparently today's just trade deadline day then. Wow! The Colorado Avalanche
are going for it! Alright there's already rumours that your garden alumni and Colorado Avalanche
Captain Gabriel Landeskog could be coming back. Who knows? Fingers crossed. I mean if they were
to announce that like that might be the news of the trade deadline honestly. But the Avalanche
just made seismic changes. Two big trades and honestly you could argue that either one of them
are the biggest deal of the day so far. Man, saying so far is wild. Who knows maybe they end
up with Gensel at the end of all this by the time this video is posted. But let's not get ahead of
ourselves. What's going on? What's the first deal? The Colorado Avalanche have acquired defenseman
Sean Walker and a fifth round draft pick in 2026 from the Philadelphia Flyers in exchange for
forward Ryan Johansen and a first round selection in 2025. That first round selection by the way is
conditional because it is top 10 protected so if they get a pick in the top 10 next year lol I
can't imagine that being possible then it would slide to 2026 and if that were to happen then the
avalanche would really be in trouble. So here's the thing you gotta take trades as a whole. When
When a deal is 1 for 1 and don't worry we'll get to Byram for Middles stat, yeah! That
just is what it is. But it is unfair and incorrect to look at this deal and go, the Avalanche
paid a first round pick for Sean Walker? No, they paid a first round pick for Sean Walker
AND to get rid of Ryan Johansson's contract. Now, if you wanna criticize Colorado Avalanche
management for trading for Ryan Johansson in the first place, yeah okay I'll hear
that because what happened June 24th 2023 the Avalanche traded Alex Galchenyuk who I forgot
they had to the Nashville Predators, basically just his rights, in order to get Ryan Johansson
half retained. At the time, Johansson? 8 million bucks just didn't make any sense for anybody.
He wasn't an 8 million dollar player anymore. Ryan Johansson at 4 million bucks? That could work!
And it's 4 million bucks this season AND next. Did he play really well? No! 13 goals, 23 points
in 63 games is not the end of the world but for 4 million bucks and where he was playing in the
lineup and where he was supposed to play in the lineup at the beginning of the season? Yeah that's
pretty bad. It was an inefficient use of the Colorado Avalanches cap space and they are not
a team that has patience for inefficiency. They needed the center depth at the time,
it just didn't work out and the Philadelphia Flyers have already placed Ryan Johansen on
waivers. I'm very doubtful anyone claims him though. I think he's still an NHL player?
Four million bucks though. Now what the Avalanche get? Sean Walker! It absolutely
stacked right side of the ice. Makar, Manson, Walker. Gross. Now as you know during the 2022
season the Colorado Avalanche ended up winning the Stanley Cup because they were really really good.
a lot of that was because of Kayla McCarr but it's so underrated how big of an impact Josh
Manson had on the avalanche and that cup run. But I did have some concerns watching that as
an outsider because Manson was getting beat up and doing the beating up. He took on so much of
the physical load for the avalanche. Is that going to change much with Sean Walker? Eh he's kind of
average size, just a hair under 200 pounds, just a hair under six feet. But it just adds more depth
to an already ridiculously stacked decor. And for their end of the bargain, what a ridiculously
interesting season for the Philadelphia Flyers. Like this team just acquired a first round pick,
there's still a really solid chance they make the Stanley Cup playoffs. Why do I say that?
They're in them! Right now! They have a top three spot in the Metro. They have 72 points
in 63 games. They are tied with the Detroit Red Wings and Tampa Bay Lightning who can't pass them
because they're in the Atlantic Division. The closest team to them passing them in the Metro
is the Islanders who have two games in hand but they are four points behind the Flyers. Best case
scenario for the Islanders is they win their games in hand just to tie the Flyers in points.
Then there's the Capitals with 65 points. I don't think so. Really it's just the Islanders. I don't
think the Penguins are getting there either, or the Devils. This is actually brilliant management
from Dani Brierre. If you don't think you can keep this player, and if you can get a first round
pick in the process, and the competition below you is so weak. Dude. Do it! Are you taking talent off
of your roster? Yes. Is Sean Walker having a great season for the Philadelphia Flyers? Also yes. But,
John Tortorella man, that dude knows how to squeeze blood from a stone. Getting back to
Colorado. Can I show you a funny tweet? From Arif Dean, Sean Walker would give the Avs three righties
and three lefties. Something like Taves Makar, Gerard Manson, Byram Walker and then Jack Johnson
and uh Jones. Here's the problem with this tweet, it's already out of date because the Avalanche
made ANOTHER HUGE deal. This is huge. Because here comes Chris Johnston with MACHINATIONS.
It's a one for one deal. Casey Middlestadt to Colorado for Bowen Byram. One for one?!
Dude a few years ago this trade would have been absolute lunacy on behalf of the Colorado
Avalanche and a complete fleecing from the Buffalo Sabres because Byram was a fourth overall pick.
Really really promising looking defenseman and Middlestadt was kind of a bust. Fast forward a
few years and wow a lot changes. One thing you'll never ever be able to take away from Bowen Byram
is he's the Stanley Cup champion and he won the Stanley Cup as a really young player and I loved
his game during that cup run. But as these charts from Don Leshizen point out, his underlying
numbers are not great right now. He is not having the best season. Meanwhile Casey Middlestadt on a
struggling Buffalo Sabres team is just racking up the numbers. Middlestadt had 25 points in 77
games in the 18-19 season. The reason he was thought of as a bust is that was his highest
point total until last year. In a healthy 82 game season he only had 15 goals which eh, but 44
assists for 59 points. Dude's a playmaker. And if you don't love the price that Colorado paid to
get Sean Walker but also get rid of Ryan Johansen. I guess I kinda get it but MIDDLE STAT coming in
is an ENORMOUS upgrade on Johansen. This season, in another healthy season, 62 games, 14 goals,
he should blow by his career high of 15 that he set last year. 33 assists, 47 points, there's
still a really good chance he beats his career high in points as well and assists. And in Colorado
he'll get a chance to play his first ever playoff hockey in the NHL. Actually I'm just looking at
at his hockey DB. At least according to hockey DB uh maybe his first playoff hockey. Now
there's a risk here for the Sabres. Byram's career is not heading in the greatest direction,
at least in terms of production and underlying numbers and everything. Retirement rumours
have followed Byram for the last season or two because this guy has had several devastating
concussions in his young career already. There's no guarantees that this guy pans out to what
he could have been, there's no guarantees that he pans out to even a dude who should
been drafted in the first round, there's no guarantees that he continues playing for much
longer. Of course he could play until he's 40 years old and it's a non-factor. But forget the
fact that he's a former 4th overall pick, this tweet from Kyle Cushman says it all for why the
Sabres would be willing to take on that risk. DALEEN. POWER. BYRAM. Are you kidding? The left
side of the Buffalo Sabres decor could be entirely top four picks. Dahlin was first,
Power was first, Byram was fourth. That's absurd. I don't know if that's ever happened before
outside of the Olympics. It might not have even happened at the Olympics! How do you get two first
overall picks and a fourth on the same decor? Buffalo obviously feels like they have the horses
to help replace Middlestadt into the future and Byram? If that's a risk, sign me up for that risk
because that could be absolutely absurd going into the future. I mean the one criticism you
might have of that deal is there's only one puck and what are those guys gonna do? Play 20 minutes
each? I mean I guess you could. I guess your biggest concern is finding them all suitable
partners. As for what it means for the Colorado Avalanche as a whole, I am reserving judgment
because I don't think they're done. I don't think they're done at all. They got itchy feet,
they're up to something. They might go and get Gensel. Or something else because I didn't see
either of these moves happening. Maybe Walker, not Byrom from Middlestadt. For now that is
it for this one, thank you very much for watching. Click like if you like this video,
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for Middlestat 1 for 1. Holy crap.
The Edmonton Oilers are loading up! As they should because they're the Edmonton Oilers
and they have Conor McDavid. But dude forget having Conor McDavid, you went to the Final
Four two years ago, lost to the eventual Stanley Cup champs, and then you gave Vegas their
best challenge in last year's playoffs and they became the Stanley Cup champs. If you're
the Oilers, you look at you on paper, you look at the results over the last couple years,
you HAVE to believe in yourself. You have to make moves like this. And Tampa! What are
you doing in there? The Edmonton Oilers acquire Adam Henrique, 75% retained, Sam Carrick and
a 7th round pick. The Anaheim Ducks acquire the Edmonton Oilers 2024 1st round pick and
a conditional 2025 5th round pick, the Tampa Bay Lightning get the Edmonton Oilers 4th
round pick for being the 3rd team in this deal and retaining some of Henrik's salary.
The condition on the 5th round pick that the Ducks get, it becomes a 4th if Edmonton wins
the cup. Tampa must also send a reserve list player.
So there are still some MACHINATIONS that need to be figured out with this deal. But
know the most important stuff. Man, Adam Henrik's put together a nice little NHL career. A third
round pick from the 2008 draft, his career high in scoring is 50 points and he's done
it twice. One was in a season where he was traded. At 34 years old, he's got 48 points
in 60 games and that was on the Ducks! If you've been watching my stuff for a while,
you know I think the Ducks stink. Like they're really bad. They have some pieces, they have
some reason for optimism in the future. Right now, the on ice product is awful. Like Adam
Henrik in over 60 games with the Anaheim Ducks is a plus 3. Do you know what a miracle that
is? There are only 5 guys on the Ducks who have played more than 15 games this season
and are plus players. There's Radko Gudis who has 15 points, Jakob Silverberg who has
16, Oro Vakkanainen who has 11, and Adam Henrik who has 42! So not only is he one of 5 Ducks
regulars to be a plus player, he leads them in scoring by a MILE. On a team this bad Henrik's
having a season that's pretty good. You're gonna see people sending around charts. I've said this
for deals that uh have to do with the Leafs and the Ducks. Ducks charts don't count. Like their
advanced numbers and they don't count. They're that bad. Oh did your team get a player from the
Ducks? What were the numbers? Bad? Well yeah! I can pretty comfortably guarantee Henrik is gonna
have a much better time on the Oilers. I mean this is the Oilers forward group according
to dailyfaceoff.com. I don't think anything changes because of this deal in the top six.
Leon Dreisaitl, Connor McDavid, Zach Hyman. Ridiculous. Evander Kane, Ryan Nugent-Hopkins,
Matthias Janmark. Maybe Henrik could replace one of Kane or Janmark? Then that bottom six
pfft. Put him wherever you want! Fogel, McLeod, Perry, Brown, Holloway, Ryan. Could the Oilers
use defense? Yeah, I'm not a huge believer in that decor. But the Oilers strength is
their ability to just run teams over offensively and Adam Henrik will help them do that with
solid depth scoring. It's actually kind of funny, despite the fact that Henrik only
has 4 playoff games to his name with no points in those 4 playoff games since the 2012 lockout,
he actually was part of the Stanley Cup final run for the New Jersey Devils in 2012. He
in 24 games, had 5 goals and one of them was a series winner. And this is gonna be his first
real crack at Lord Stanley in over a decade. Not to mention they also get Sam Carrick who's a big
mean fella. Honestly, he's just a depth option for the Oilers. I actually think they'll really
like him. God bless Connor Brown, you know I love Connor Brown. Um, hmm. His cap hit is wild. And
the fact he has five points, five assists in 52 games with Edmonton is… I can't believe it. The
Oilers definitely need depth. Do you think they could do better than Sam Carrick? Fair enough.
His charts are going around, Jay Fresh and Top Down Hockey do not like this player or at very
least their model does not. It's got some versatility as an option for the right side
and center. But here do you want to see something funny? Alex Hobson on Twitter found this exchange.
Former oiler Luke Gazdik goes, this is just a great deal for the oil. Great veteran and
teammate in Henrique and Edmonton fans you are going to love Sam Carrick. All heart,
tough guy, team first guy, big afternoon in oil country. Then someone responds, his stats say
otherwise Luke but I'll wait and see. A first seems a bit steep though. Then Luke just goes,
what is this? And someone says sending a player card to a former player is crazy. Listen,
Advanced statistics, analytics, whatever you wanna call them, they have a place in hockey.
They're very important in hockey. We've already had this discussion, we've put it to bed. They're
important. But! I will die on the hill that numbers on the Ducks right now don't matter.
They don't count. That team is butt and they've been butt. And I promise you they haven't been
butt because of Sam Carrick. Who by the way with 8 goals and 3 assists for 11 points has more points
than Connor Brown already! There you go Edmonton. So Sam Carrick is in his 30s now, he's 32. Years
ago he was drafted by the Leafs and he was part of those like last place awful teams.
He has not played on great NHL teams. But he's a great story. From Kyle Cushman, shout
out to Sam Carrick. Dude battled for a long time in the minors, didn't play more games
in the NHL than the AHL until the 2021-22 season when he was 29 years old. He'll get
to play in the Stanley Cup playoffs for the first time this season with the Oilers at
32 things you love to see. If you wanna know about a guy who's gonna be motivated, a
guy who's gonna be shot out of a cannon, Sam Carrick. Sneaky good pickup. I really
like Henrique for the Oilers. Sam Carrick, I'm very interested. Now for the Ducks end
of the bargain, they were never gonna keep Henrique, they were never gonna keep Carrick.
They get a first round pick out of it. Cool. And a conditional mid round pick. I think
they like that very much. It's kinda cut and dry, they're in the middle of it. They
already have some really good young players to their name. I don't know what's going on with
Zygris and the trade rumors there but like, Minchukov, Mktavish, Carlsen. They got some
really good young players. TAMPA. HUH. Now Tampa I mean is a perennial contender or at very least
they're perceived that way. They went to three straight Stanley Cup finals, won two of them and
last year they lost in a tight series against the Leafs. Would anyone be surprised if they went on
another deep run? I know they don't look as good on paper but it's Tampa. And I was like surely
they're a buyer, surely they're tight up against the cap. According to capfriendly.com trade
deadline cap space 7.3 almost 7.4. How did they even? Ah ha ha. Sneaky tricky LTIR. Interesting
interesting interesting. This trade hasn't been posted on CapFriendly just yet but Tampa does not
have a first rounder in 2024, they don't have one in 2025, they don't have a second rounder in 2024,
they don't have their own 4th rounder in 2024. This team needs to recoup some draft picks. And
if you can afford to do it by just being a facilitator in a 3 way deal, go for it. Why not?
Honestly this is a 3 way deal where I look at it and I go yeah that makes sense. I'd still like
the Oilers to do a little bit more. I think it'd be nice to improve their back end. Their
goaltending situation is fascinating. I still wonder if they try to unload Jack Campbell. At
this point I'm not sure he's getting called up. But for their offensive depth? Beef. Heading
into these playoffs? Yeah. Good deal. So what do you think of the deal? Leave a comment
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You know, Barry Trotz started yesterday off by saying that the prices at the trade deadline were absolutely outrageous.
And I'm looking at this trade and a few others and going, are you sure, Barry?
This is a steal for the New York Rangers.
Now, I want to talk about this first.
You got to understand the Rangers situation.
Philip Hedl, losing him, and by the way, a month ago, he was ruled out for the entire season.
Although, you know, if they go deep in the playoffs, you never know what can happen.
These are hockey players. They're crazy.
Losing him is a big, big loss.
And the Rangers, obviously, have been doing just fine.
They're leading the division.
I think they're second in the Eastern Conference as of this recording.
Zabina Jad, Vinny Trocek, you've got depth.
But what Alex Wenberg is going to give them, and that's where we're going to start,
is i think uh such a undervalued piece this guy um everywhere he's gone has been an analytics
darling and i actually looked up his scouting reports from like elite prospects in 2012
and they said at very least he's going to be a useful nhl player and this guy is smooth skater
great with the puck you know his career highs and points aren't going to blow anybody away
but again it comes down to usefulness now the trade itself is alex winberg at 50 retained so
that's 2.25 million dollars that the rangers are on the hook for probably leaves them a little bit
of room to do a little bit more all they gave up was a 2024 second round pick and their 2025
conditional fourth round pick from dallas and the conditions this is from the the nils lungquist
trade you remember this one do you remember that trade because he was like a hot prospect and he
was traded? Yeah. If Nils Lundqvist earns 55 cumulative points over the 2022-23 and 23-24
regular seasons, the pick upgrades to the Dallas 2025 third round pick. Now let's get into this
here. Okay. Nils Lundqvist, is he going to play that amount of hockey this season? Yeah, he
probably is. 45 games already this year. I think that that might be upgraded. So that's pretty
cool right like good for them uh that means that seattle gets uh a second this year and a fourth
in 2025 or sorry third in 2025 decent enough return i guess for a player that maybe was going
to leave but i think the true story here is the fact that these trade deadline prices are not what
we thought when chris tana was traded it was had to be a first rounder was going to be a first
rounder. No way that it's not going to be a first rounder. It's not a first rounder. It's a second
rounder and a prospect that tops out as a six, seven defenseman. Um, when you see some of the
other moves that have happened today, Sean Walker went for a first round pick, but I'm looking at
an Alexander Wenberg and what he's going to bring to the New York Rangers throughout the playoffs.
This is a guy that can play up and down your lineup. He is a, the ultimate sort of guy that
you want in your middle six. He is going to score key goals from time to time. He's going to play
key moments power play you can put them on the excuse me penalty kill you can put them on the
power play but I think more than this you know going into the playoffs that there's going to
be injuries and the attrition rate especially in the first round is is intense and so if the
playoffs started today New York's playing Detroit Detroit's not like an overly violent NHL team but
I would say that you can expect that somebody is going to get beat up somewhere and what Wenberg
gives you is an opportunity he gives you an opportunity to put him in the top six if you've
got one of your your wingers uh down and you need somebody to jump in there he can do that if you
need a third line center to be reliable and play roles uh for you on a great team Alex Wenberg's
going to do that and he's got playoff experience right he's a a guy that played uh you know people
forget Seattle did pretty well in playoffs last year he was on that team um he also was no stranger
to the John Tortorella system.
This is a guy that played years in Columbus.
And if there's anything that we know
about Columbus players of the John Tortorella era
is they had to squeeze blood from a stone
and play a lot of defense and block a lot of shots.
That kind of stuff.
As much as it's like, well, it doesn't show up on a chart.
It is kind of important come playoff time.
Now, if you're into the charts, he charts really well.
This is a player that analytics people have loved
for a long, long time as an undervalued player.
I think at four and a half or four, 475 or whatever he was really making, frankly, this is a great value add in free agency.
It's a great value add when you've got them at 50%.
The New York Rangers outside of New York are not talked about enough for how great this team could actually be.
This is a top to bottom, strong on defense, strong on offense.
I mean, I know Mika Zabinajad hasn't scored even strength in a while, but that'll change, right?
That's going to change.
And one of the best goaltenders in the league, like a generational goaltending talent, even if he's got a few more years before people recognize him as that.
I'm a big fan of the New York Rangers, a big fan of what they're doing.
And Wenberg just doubles down on it.
For me, looking at this trade as an outsider, I'm not a New York Rangers fan, but I can tell you, that's a team that you don't want to play in the playoffs.
because obviously we know what Zabina Jad is.
Vincent Trocek is one of my personal favorite NHL players.
Forcek, Backcek, Trocek.
We all know the saying.
The guy has been spectacular two ways for a really long time.
And Wenberg is going to be a great fill-in for the void that Hedl left.
And make no mistake, as much as they've done a great job filling the gap,
Hedl was somebody that they're going to miss,
is somebody that they're going to miss,
and Wenberg jumping in there is going to help things a lot.
It's a minor deal.
I'm an SDPN.
I'm not going to get the major Noah Hannafin video.
Steve's going to do that later tonight, I'm sure,
even though he just had a kid.
I don't know how he's doing it.
But I'll tell you this.
I'm a big fan of what the New York Rangers are doing.
I wouldn't want to play the New York Rangers
in the Eastern Conference Finals.
As a Toronto Maple Leafs fan,
I'm hoping somebody else gets in
because this team is defensively responsible,
can score a bunch of goals,
has Norris Trophy candidates on defense
and Vezina Trophy candidates in that.
That's scary.
And that's what matters come playoffs.
It's not the goofy stats.
As much as I'm a Leaf fan, I love my goofy stats.
And Matthew's scoring all the way to the playoffs
and Mitch Marder getting 100 points and all that stuff.
What matters when you get to the playoffs,
it's, and I hate to take a flyer out of another New York team here,
the New York Islanders.
When the New York Islanders played in the playoffs,
when they could get to the playoffs,
they were brutal they were a tough out I think the New York Rangers are going to be a really
tough out I I do feel like if they do end up playing Detroit and they could play Tampa
but if they do end up playing Detroit they will probably manage Detroit pretty well
no question especially with Wenberg here they have so much flexibility of so many players
that can play so many different positions I don't think it's going to be that much of a problem
then you look at who well who could they play next who's in their division and I'm looking at
the Carolina Hurricanes or the Philadelphia Flyers.
Now, the Flyers are better than people give them credit for,
but I think even the Flyers would tell you,
we're surprised we're here too.
There's a reason we call it the mid-tripolitan.
It's not the strongest division in the sport,
but whatever, you got to play the games,
you got to win the games.
So if you've got a Carolina-Philly matchup
in the first round,
I give, you know, I'm giving it to Carolina
based on past history,
although they've got some question marks.
Philadelphia, again,
you wouldn't want to play them in the playoffs.
I think the New York Rangers could handle both of those teams.
Carolina's got the questions in net.
Philadelphia is just playing with house money.
Hey, we're happy to be here.
The New York Rangers are serious.
They're for real.
And they've got this deal done with relatively little cost.
Who cares about a second rounder?
Who cares about a third rounder in 2025?
Nobody cares.
The New York Rangers are going to be good and they're going to be good for a long time.
and I wouldn't want to have to play them in the first round or the second round.
And if we do, as Leaf fans, have to play them in the third round, well, fine then.
So big thumbs up on this trade.
It's solid value.
And for Seattle, I would say this.
Listen, this team was not built really to win now
two and a half years ago when they came to the league.
Then last year, they had a really good year.
I mean, no one can deny.
This year, back to where they sort of were,
although they're a little bit better than they were their first season.
Get your value, get your picks, keep building that system, keep building that fan base. Nobody really had crazy expectations for them anyway. And really what a second round pick can get you come draft day is plenty of things. Maybe you're looking to make a major move.
One of the things that Ron France is always what makes him so interesting as a general manager and a guy who's running a team is that you do get the sense that they're going to start to look for bigger talent, you know, higher end talent to go with the guys like Matty Beneers.
So for Seattle, I don't even know if they use this pick.
To me, this feels like a pick that could be traded leading up to draft day as a part of a bigger deal.
You know, somebody wins the Stanley Cup, a la the Vegas Golden Knights, and three days later, they got to make the Riley Smith trade to Pittsburgh, which is a heartbreaker, but it happens every year. If I'm Seattle, that second round pick is a part of a package for somebody that I can get on my team that really adds value to it. Boy. And yeah, I guess you could always use it too. You never know. It's just going to be in the late 50s, 60s. So we'll see. We'll see what Seattle does with it.
New York Rangers fans, I got to say, enjoy this.
You're in a, you got the opportunity of a lifetime here.
You got a Carolina Hurricanes team that's always good, that isn't great this year.
You've got the rest of the division that's super ho-hum, not much going on.
You know that you're probably going to win the division.
It's very difficult for Carolina to catch you at this point.
Oh baby, what an opportunity.
New York could benefit from the Atlantic division absolutely ripping each other's eyeballs out.
And by the time they have to play an Atlantic division team, it's going to be the Eastern
Conference final.
Just get there.
And you're in the finals.
Just get there.
Florida is going to play Tampa, likely.
Toronto is going to play Boston, likely.
Those teams are going to kill each other.
And all you have to do is watch them kill each other for a couple of rounds.
And then you get to kind of sweep up the remainder.
The New York Rangers have an opportunity this year.
I'm actually, I'd be surprised if they don't go and make some other big move.
Wow.
Really impressed.
uh really excited to see where this goes getting excited for the playoffs too you know
feels good that's my breakdown my instant analysis for sdpn and uh we'll see you soon
you got something there there's something what is that what is oh it's a little bit of snot
dronemade beliefs for the second straight year have gotten a defenseman from the washington
capitals at the trade deadline and we're like who last year it was eric gustafson and all offense
no defense defenseman from the Washington Capitals who actually ended up being pretty
good. Not used every game but pretty good. And this year it's Joel Edmondson! Our old
favourite and no offense, all defense, beat the poo out of ya dude. So let's talk about
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Did your team make a trade? Great! We're gonna be all over it! And I know that because
we made six videos yesterday and we got more coming today! Including this one! Steve this
one isn't on the SDPN channel. I know that it's on this one telling you to go there!
It's called marketing, look it up! SDPN, go there, handsome smile, all that. So, Joel
Joel Edmondson, our old pal. He's 30 years old, he's 6 foot 5 every single time he
steps on the ice and he is in the neighbourhood of 220 to 230 pounds. Are you an attacking
player at the front of the net? Great! Joel Edmondson is there to make sure you have a
terrible time. Speaking of terrible time, who's having a terrible time today? Anybody
who likes the Leafs who also likes analytics. Tom LeCision posted this player card of Joel
Edmondson who is listed as 6 foot 5, 221 pounds and he's just awful! Oh my goodness! He is below
league average in basically every measurable everything. Look at this! Oh my gosh it's a
nightmare! It's actually terrifying! It's beyond terrifying! It's terrible! Terrifying and terrible!
Look at this! Look at here! There's what it looks like next to my face. Still bad. Still bad. It's
next to something ugly and it still looks ugly! That is terrible! I know I'm handsome don't worry
about it. So there's one picture and it's one thing to say oh he's bad analytically well what
does that mean? It means that when Joel Edmondson is on the ice the other team usually has the puck,
they are usually in the offensive zone, they are usually getting shot attempts and they are
usually getting shots on goal that might even result in a scoring chance. Well then why would
the Leafs even want him? Well that's because of this picture. You all know about this one
one by now, this one got brought up about a month ago. Here's Joel Edmondson cross-checking
Wayne Simmonds in the face. This only got a $5,000 fine. And you might be saying, Steve,
there's two members of the Montreal Canadiens cross-checking Wayne Simmonds above the neck.
And I know, uh, he's the one on the right. The bigger one. There's, there's Ben Chirot
who sort of let go of his stick, that was fortunate. But then Joel Edmondson is the
guy who WHAMMO! WHAMMO! Right in the flesh and bone! CRACK! Hi-yah! $5,000. Steve didn't
you get the memo that you're not allowed to crosscheck players in the face especially
after a whistle? Well, you know, there's a reason that Leaf fans were upset about the
whole Morgan Rielly thing! Because there's some confusion in the wording of the memo!
for the millionth time you cannot do what Morgan Rielly did to Ridley Greig. I'm gonna
say it again, in VERY plain English so that everyone, are we listening class? BOYS AND
GIRLS! You cannot crosscheck someone in the head. Joel Edmondson learned that very hard
lesson during the Leafs-Habs playoff series in 2021. Because he crosschecked Wayne Simmonds
in the head and neck and that's 5 grand he'll NEVER get back. Because Joel Edmondson's
earnings are listed at $20,151,935 but after this cross-check against Wayne Simmons it's
only $20,146,935. How is he gonna get by? How is he gonna survive? How will I breathe
without you? Listen, hockey as a product, in my opinion, is the best sport on earth.
the best sport on earth. The NHL, the National Hockey League, as a product is nonsensical.
Illogical. Barely even a thing. Because organized sports, a professional sports league, a league
where rules are made and followed and discipline is handed out when you break them, like that's
very rigid. You must do this and this and this and this. The NHL is a lot more like
recess. And there's like a staff meeting or like cake in the staff room or something.
You let all the kids outside, they're gonna have their fun and they know that they have
to return to class at the bell. What's that? You lost a couple teeth? Well what'd you
expect? It's recess! And then the school proceeds to suspend one out of like every
five kids who knock someone's teeth out and you can't help but notice that every
single time it's the kid wearing blue and white who gets suspended! And you say to yourself,
well as long as the precedent going forward is everyone going- AND IT'S NEVER GOING
forward is it? IT'S NEVER! So, you can show this, put the Dom graphic up again. You can
show this, alright? Here's the problem I have with pointing out Joel Edmondson's
analytics and everything. Did we not have this same conversation with Ben Chirot? I
swear it was Ben Chirot and Joel Edmondson as a pair, and yes it was a few years ago
with the Montreal series. This de-pairing is not there to have the puck more than you.
They're not there to out scoring chance you, they're not even there to out shoot you shots
on goal, they're not even there to have more shot attempts than you. They are there to BEAT
the WHEELS off of you. BREAK VERTEBRAE in games 1 and 2 and 3 and 4 so that by the time 5 and 6
and seven roll around you don't really want to be there anymore. Which is when the other better
players ideally take over. That's what's going on here. The rule book changes in the playoffs.
It simply does. This is why I made the comparison to recess. It's just bloody chaos. Now just wait
till Edmondson does this in the first round against Boston or something. He might be down
another five grand right? That's what we all expect right? Here's a non-screamy way to look
at it and I think it's very logical and it also looks at what the Leafs top six could be. From
Justin Bourne who is just fantastic. Riley Lubushkin, Benoit McCabe, Edmondson Brodie,
with Brodie being on the right. Already I don't know how much I love that but continue. Then with
And with the extras being Giordano, Lillegren, Lagasin, Timmons. Leafs probably trade a D
and recoup some picks I'd imagine? Question mark? I actually agree with that. Edmondson
is a left shot but checks a lot of other boxes for the Leafs. Just 30 years old, just. 22
game cup win with St. Louis, I forgot about that. Cup final with Montreal, 6 foot 5, 220
decisions, penalty kills and blocked shots. Feels like it gives Leafs more responsible
adults back there. I don't know if it's a great use of assets, probably not. Or if
the Leafs wouldn't have been better with xyz move but he improves them for playoffs
this year anyway, incrementally. There's two things there. Number one, I totally forgot
to tell you what the Leafs traded for Joel Edmondson. I had a kid recently, I'm very
retired. It was four days ago. Five days ago? I don't know. It's a third round pick and
a fifth round pick. I believe it is the third round pick that the Leafs got in return for
Pierre Engvall from the Islanders and a fifth round pick, one of the fifth round picks that
the Leafs got from the Chicago Blackhawks in last year's deal for Sam Lafferty and
Jake McCabe. With all the love in my heart, what a damning indictment of this Leafs decor
And what a DAMNING indictment of Timothy Liljegren that this deal was even made and that he's
not in this projected lineup. William Lagson I believe is gonna be put on waivers. Connor
Timmons is going on LTIR. If a Leafs defenseman is gonna be traded to recoup picks, just like
last year with Rasmus Sandin, I think it's gonna be Timothy Liljegren. I don't know
where he's gonna go. And it's so disappointing. And also, kinda risky. I don't want Connor
Timmons playing playoff games. Who even knows if he's gonna be healthy enough to play
playoff games? Even though you have Joel Edmondson now, and you got Ilya Labushkin. Labushkin,
if Lillegren is not in the lineup, is your only right hander and… What?! WHAT?! We went
into this deadline thinking, oh they just need to go out and get a right handed D pair
partner for Rielly and okay they went out and got Lubushkin, he'll be a nice stopgap
and what do you mean he's the full time guy? It could certainly be worse but wow could
it be a lot better. Now, Joel Edmondson from Montreal, we saw that guy. That was a few
years ago. He was with the Washington Capitals this season. A team that we know is not having
a really good time right now. So forget Montreal Joel Edmondson, even though he still got that
resume and still got that experience, what is he now? At 30 years old after all the injuries
that he's battled. I spoke to Ian Oland of RMNB, one of the best team sites out there
they cover the Capitals so in depth, and here's what he sent me over text.
I'll be optimistic, Ian said. Always a good start. He missed the first part of the year
because he got hurt, which has been a constant theme lately in his career. His first 10-15
games were pretty bad and he looked slow. Now he's even-ish and a decent penalty killer.
He has a surprisey link big shot but rarely uses it. We initially thought he'd be more
physical like Brooks or Pick in terms of sheer physicality, but he's just kind of there
and hard to move. Listen, that Bruins game from a few days ago earlier this week on Monday,
they need guys who are hard to move. And the Leafs penalty kill has been a bit of a weakness
this year so if he's a decent penalty killer, that's a win in itself.
So what do you think of Joel Edmondson becoming a Toronto Maple Leaf? What do you think of
trading 2 draft picks in order to get him? Even if it's at 50% retained. What do you
think about giving up 2 thirds, a 5th and a 6th for Ilya Labushkin and Joel Edmondson?
Do you think the Leafs have more to do before tomorrow's trade deadline? It's tomorrow,
it's in 24 hours. Let me know in the comment box down below but for now that is it for
this one. Thank you very much for watching. Click like if you like this video, click subscribe
if you really liked it. Tell all your friends, Joel Edmondson is a Toronto Maple Leaf and
he's NOT gonna get suspended. Nope.
Hey, guess what? CADE WEBER IS A LEAF! Or at very least he will be if they sign him
by August 15th because that is the deadline that they have to sign him because they just
traded for his rights. The Toronto Maple Leafs have traded a 2026 sixth rounder to the Carolina
Hurricanes for Cade Webber, a defenseman who the Hurricanes drafted in the fourth round
in 2019. I thought this tweet from Mike Stevens was very funny. Guess how tall this dude is?
I'll give you a hint, he's not short. SIX FOOT SIX! He just turned 23 years old
in January. He's actually listed under 200 pounds on EliteProspects.com. Six foot six,
under 200 pounds. STEAK FOR BREAKFAST YOUNG MAN. Don't look at me that's exactly what
the Leafs organization is probably gonna tell him to do. I've seen some sites say 6'7".
I mean with any player in the NHL you just gotta give a grace of like an inch or two.
Which now that I say it out loud and into a camera is kind of a funny clip. So how did
this come to be? How did Cade Webber get drafted in the 4th round in 2019? Well, he was big.
He played with the Rivers school in USHS prep and he was nearly a point of game defenceman
with 12 goals. The season after he went to the Penticton Vs of the BCHL, which if you
don't know is Junior A, it's one of the better Junior A leagues out there. It's
been in the news recently because it's trying to do its own thing. And his offense dried
up significantly, just 5 points in 23 games, just 2 goals. Then obviously COVID happened,
screw COVID it ruins everything. Since then he has played 115 games over the last 4 seasons
for Boston University, an incredibly good program but remember that time he said 115
16 points! In those games. So the reason we keep bringing up his height is it's relevant. There's
a reason why Brad Treliving and his management staff wanted this guy. He's huge. It certainly
wasn't for his offensive ability, who knows maybe there's a little bit more there than he was
letting on. This is a program that has Lane Hudson in it after all, Boston University does not have
trouble generating offense. But he's huge, he's already an adult, he's 23 years old. If they sign
him to a contract which I imagine they're gonna do in short order. He goes to the Marlies after
Boston University season is done. There's the potential of him being called up, I don't know,
I think this is more of a system move. But a 6th round pick is actually a decent price to pay
for a prospect that you believe could play professional games for your organization,
maybe even with your big club. And there's years already down the line in his development.
what are the odds that a sixth rounder is gonna make the NHL? They're probably, worst case,
about as good as Cade Webber's chances are. He's also the assistant captain of Boston University
so like, you know, character and leadership and all that. It's extra relevant when you consider
that Boston University already has 12 NHL draft prospects on it, not including Cade Webber. They're
a really good program. In fact, one of the players on their roster who's not already an NHL prospect
is their top scorer Macklin Celebrini who's very likely gonna go first overall in the 2024 draft.
Here's a review from someone who's actually seen him. Colby Cohen, former NHL player,
I've watched Cade Webber play about 100 games at BU. He's a 6'7", there's that discrepancy again,
a 6'7 physical shot blocking machine who skates well and can make a first pass. This is a well
developed prospect and is 100% worth a 6th round pick by the Leafs. That's just the
eye test saying oh he blocks shots but you don't know if that's 100% true. Here are
the numbers from Kyle Cushman. Cade Webber is a 6 foot 7, there it is again, 216 POUNDS!
I gotta put the tweet next to me just so you can watch me read it. Cade Webber is 6 foot
7, 216 pounds per BU's site. So wow. He has put on weight compared to the number that
elite prospects has. That's like a difference of, what is that? 20 pounds? Okay so he's
big, he would already be one of the heaviest and tallest players on the roster. A near
zero offensively but leads the Terriers with 107 blocks. Next closest is his D partner
with 66. He's in his final NCAA season and needs to be signed before August 15th. Expect
him to join the Marlies when BU's run is over.
It's a smart move for Carolina too, I mean they drafted a player they obviously liked otherwise
they wouldn't have used a fourth round pick on him. Covid sort of screwed some things up,
that doesn't necessarily mean he fell out of favour with the Hurricanes it just means
they talked to the kid, they weren't gonna be able to sign him, trade deadlines tomorrow,
they called up Brad Treliving and said hey how about you give us that person. Brad said is he
big? And they said shut up you have his elite prospects page open right now. Brad said yes I
do. Carolina said well he's actually 20 pounds heavier than that and Brad said shut up and make
that trade call! Interesting little move. Now, things are slowly taking shape, well
quickly taking shape with the Leafs decor. They got Labushkin. Big. Snot. They got Joel
Edmondson. Big. Snot. Timothy Lillegren. Might be coming out of the lineup. Pretty soon.
Big-ish zero snot. No snot. The like just no snot. Napkin. I didn't know what to say
there? What's the absence of snot? Dry nostril player. So the Leafs trade another pick, they're
sorta running out of picks. A player who they might deal at this deadline, I'm starting
to feel it happening, could be Timothy Liljegren. I've recruited Mike Stevens who's been
a guest on the Steve Dangle Podcast in the past, he's written basically everywhere
most recently with the Associated Press. Here he is to talk about Timothy Liljegren, his
relationship with the leafs as a organization and he's going to expand on some things like
sean walker and tyler toffoli who has not been dealt yet one name to monitor when it comes to
the leafs in the lead up to the deadline and it might not be imminent right now it's timothy
lilligrant now when brad tree living took over this team in the summer he surveyed the roster
and lilligrant was identified as a player that doesn't necessarily play his type of hockey
And if you look at the acquisitions of the Joel Edmondsons and the Elia Labushkins, they're almost diametrically opposed players to Timothy Lilligren in that they're big, they don't move the puck as well as Lilligren does, and they're more physical and sort of disrupting the rush type players.
And Lillegren's stock has fallen within the organization.
You can just see it from the outside and also from indications that I've got
is that he was a scratch during the playoffs at times last year
and also he was called out publicly by his coach.
The possibility could be that he is included in a bigger package
to get that top four right shot defenseman that they need
or potentially, again, package someone else to get a first round pick
that could replace a 2021 first or 2024 first
that they could potentially move out, move away from,
move out for that top right defenseman however that's been a sticking point in a lot of things
namely in Sean Walker the Leafs were in on Sean Walker they've been monitoring him basically since
the start of training camp however the Flyers have stood firm when it comes to his price which
being a first round pick and they eventually got that from the Colorado Avalanche obviously have
to take on a bigger contract but you know that they had this cap space to do that now up front
with the Leafs they are one of the teams that are in on Tyler Toffoli Toffoli is the bell of the
ball here. He has 26 goals. He's in 61 games. He's a veteran guy. He's won before. He's a proven
playoff performer. The price is extremely high on him from the Devils if they decide to actually
sell and sell him. And what a lot of teams are doing and viewing Tyler Toffoli as is Jake Gensel
insurance because Jake Gensel is the top forward on the market right now. And the price is extremely
high from Kyle Dubas. And if they feel that they got priced out of Jake Gensel, they will now turn
their sights to Tyler Toffoli.
Now, it's been reported
and also indicated to me
that the Vegas Golden Knights
are obviously monitoring it
just in case they get priced out of Gensel.
The Vancouver Canucks
are another team that is looking at
they could have a reunion.
They're interested in Tyler Toffoli
if they lose out on Gensel.
And the LA Kings are a team
that have expressed interest
in a reunion with Toffoli.
And if you even look at their moves,
they placed some guys on waivers
today to open up some cap space.
There are a lot of moving parts.
prices can change based on the market however it does seem like teams are viewing this as if they
don't get Gensel they turn it to Foley and the Leafs are one of those teams in on to Foley all
very spicy and all stuff that we're going to be keeping an eye on very hard for tomorrow's trade
deadline I wonder if by less than 24 hours from now Timothy Lilligren is still with the Leafs for
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out of nowhere from left field here come the vegas golden knights to land noah hannifin no one really
saw this coming until late this afternoon i'm recording this on wednesday night late this
afternoon the machinations started machinating and we got some little tremors that the vegas
golden knights were in on noah hannifin and then later in the evening towards the night we got
official word it's done the trade call is in noah hannifin is going to the vegas golden knights
And then it wasn't official. And then we just waited for the actual details. And then finally,
now, middle of the night on Wednesday, we get official word and all of the trade details that
Vegas got Noah Hannafin from Calgary. And the lesson that we need to learn here is if there
is a star player available, Vegas will go after them and they usually will land them.
So here are the full details of the Hannafin trade to Vegas. Going to Las Vegas, Noah Hannafin
and Mikhail Vorobiev. Noah Hannafin is 75% retained. The Philadelphia Flyers swoop in.
They get a 2024 fifth round pick from Vegas for retaining 25% of Noah Hannafin's salary.
And to the Calgary Flames, Danil Mirmanov and a 2025 first round pick that is top 10 protected
if it lands within the top 10 then calgary will get vegas's 2026 first round pick and they also
get a 2025 third round pick that is also conditional and the conditions on that pick
are that vegas must advance to the second round and if they do advance to the second round
the third round pick becomes a second round pick so what we have here is miraman off a first and
a second because i think we can all assume at this point that vegas will advance to the second round
and the Stanley Cup goes through Las Vegas.
They won it last year.
It is theirs.
They own it.
I don't care what the standings say.
I don't care where they sit right now.
When they get to the playoffs,
they are the favorites
and the Stanley Cup goes through them.
I'm going to read their top six defensemen
and tell me this isn't the most scary decor
in the National Hockey League.
Hannafin Petro, McNabb Theodore,
Alec Martinez is now on injured reserve to make room for Noah Hannafin.
So that other spot's going to be like Nick Haag or Ben Hutton or Tobias Bjornfort.
And then Zach Whitecloud is going to be the last pairing defenseman there.
That is some big, hefty men playing on the back end.
And there's a lot of salt in the water right now.
Which water's salty?
The ocean?
Is it the Black Sea?
which is the most salty body of water, because that is NHL fans in the Pacific Division right
now, because there's a lot of talk about the LTIR circumvention and all that nonsense.
Before I get into that, let me tell you something. Calgary Flames talk is coming up,
and it's going to be done by Julian McKenzie of the Chris Johnson Show and of The Athletic,
where he is the Calgary Flames beat writer. Who better to talk about the Flames than the guy who
covers the flames day in and day out. So I'm going to leave that to Julian. I'm going to just say
that I'm personally disappointed in the work that Craig Conroy has done here. I think for Noah
Hannafin, you need more than the first and the second round pick. You need some solidified
prospects. I don't think Miramanov is that. I don't think Magic Beans are enough when you're
trading away guys who are this good and relatively young and who can play top pair minutes on a very
good decor a first and a second doesn't seem like enough but julian's gonna get into that that's
just my quick thoughts on what calgary's done here plus it's a division rival is there not a
upcharge to trading within a division besides all that speaking of division let's get into the salt
because a lot of you a lot of you pacific division fans are salty for no reason all 32 teams are
operating under the same darn rules. But for some reason, when Vegas decides to put somebody on LTIR
and they open up a bunch of space, it's their fault that the rules have been made in this way.
Hate the game, not the player. It's the reverse of that old saying of hate the player, hate the
game. You got to hate the game this time because the NHL has set up this goofy ass system where
teams can take advantage of it. And the Vegas Golden Knights are just doing what they can
within the rules. If they couldn't do this, they wouldn't be able to. And what I'm talking about
right now is if you go to CapFriendly and you look at the Vegas Golden Knights and you take a look
at what they have on LTIR, a lot of people are upset about it because it gives them this ability
to acquire a player like Noah Hannafin. And then for the playoffs, a bunch of guys are healthy
again and they're like oh they used all that space for free and blah blah blah blah right now
on their long-term injury reserve is mark stone and robin lennar robin lennar is never going to
play a game again in the national hockey league and mark stone everybody complaining about mark
stone going on ltir and then becoming healthy and playing in the playoffs i get you guys vegas
didn't make the playoffs in 2022 he he was injured in 2022 for back surgery and they didn't make the
playoffs he didn't get healthy for the playoffs because they weren't there last year yeah it
worked out where his his schedule to return landed a week before the end of the regular season you
hold him out for those extra couple games so then he can play in the playoffs this year though guys
this year he has a lacerated spleen his spleen is cut i'm not a doctor but you can't fake a
lacerated spleen i don't understand nine teams right now in the playoffs are using ltir space
There's 16 total in the National Hockey League that are above the salary cap limit.
Yes, 16 teams.
Half of the NHL is currently using LTIR space.
They are above the salary cap limit.
The NHL has made a system that doesn't work.
This is nonsense.
the the rules are goofy and they're way too complicated for anybody to understand but when
you just specifically complain about the vegas golden knights having players injured and then
them coming back for the playoffs it's not a golden knights problem it's an nhl problem and
i'll never stop hammering that it's a ridiculous thing to call out a guy's lacerated spleen and say
that they're cheating the system because his spleen is cut. And because he cut his spleen,
they can now get Noah Hannafin and the Vegas Golden Knights are cheating.
That is a ridiculous loop of logic. What you should be upset about, like I said,
is the CBA and how it's written and how this is the goofiest, most nonsense salary gap
that you could ever have in pro sports. That's the real problem here. And that is a thing we
should all be upset about and to go back to the on ice stuff with the vegas golden knights i read
off the d pairings before and they've just solidified an already great part of their lineup
the defense was excellent they play great system hockey and they made an anthony mantha trade
earlier you can go watch steve dangle's video on that and they have this ability to run four lines
at all times we've talked about this before and how playoff hockey is being of the run your four
lines wave after wave after wave and vegas has that they have so much depth in their in their
four group and now they have just an unbelievable amount of depth on defense they know they can ride
eight and hill for 16 wins and four rounds of playoffs the stanley cup goes through vegas it
is theirs to keep until somebody can knock them off this team is a problem and right now if i'm
looking at it i don't care what the standings say the vase golden knights are the favorites to win
the stanley cup for the calgary flames we have julian mckenzie who's gonna speak about what
this means for them this trade is still pretty fresh at the time i'm recording this so it is
entirely possible that my opinions if this will change but this is a really weird trade on the
surface a first round pick that's actually a 2025 first round pick a conditional third round pick
that could turn into a second depending on what vegas does this year and daniel miramanov he is
the most interesting part of this entire deal considering the offensive mindedness of his game
while also coming off significant knee surgery is is this a guy that the flames are really into
that's what it seems like in a statement that craig conroy provided after the trade he lauded
him for his size his his skill and and what he's able to provide with that frame very intriguing
player but is this enough for for Noah Hannafin who has meant so much for this defense in the
span of a week this team has offloaded Chris Tanev and Noah Hannafin that was a whole pairing for
those guys and I know that Noah Hannafin has played up and down the lineup and as has Chris
Tanev but those two guys have spent a lot of time together and those guys are gone now and Joel
Hanley Jordan Osterley Dennis Gilbert and now Mira Manov those guys are expected to pick up the slack
in those two guys's absence I don't know this I would I thought going into this deadline Noah
Hannafin would be a guy who could fetch a first round pick this year who could fetch a prospect
there's no significant prospects in this deal which I think is is is a loss for the Flames in
this count i think for a player like noah hannifin for what the flames are trying to do getting
younger getting good prospects even if this even like even if it wasn't going to be a higher end
prospect i think they should have gotten something there but ultimately they did not and it puts a
lot of pressure on miramanov to be this player that was worth the trade if he doesn't have to be
the equivalent the equivalent of what noah hannifin has been for the team but miramanov still has to
be worth that move and i'll say this with the 2025 first round pick a lot of people looking at
the sean monaghan trade and the fact that the montreal canadians are supposed to be taking a
first round pick if they don't take a first round pick this year from the flames provided it ends in
the ends up within the 2032 range the canadians would be able to pick a first round pick next
year which is either going to be one of the flames ones or the or the one they have from the florida
panthers you could tell this is a very elongated trade but let me just put it to you like this
That pick that they get from Vegas, not subjected to that.
So the Flames are at the very least going to have that first-round pick in 2025,
which should have been one from 2024.
That is a big question.
And up to now, we've seen reports of teams like Tampa Bay being very interested
in Noah Hannafin and whether or not that might have played a role
in the market being as it was.
We don't have those answers to those questions.
There's a lot to wonder about when it comes to Craig Conroy, but on the surface, I think when you look at the trades that have been completed by Craig Conroy from last summer to now, if you're accounting for the Tyler Toffoli trade, the Elias Lindholm trade, Nikita Zdorov, and Tanev, at least on the surface, if you're ranking them, you're a Flames fan and you're ranking them, I don't think you put this trade on the higher end of that list.
But you have to wait and see what that pick turns into, what Mira Manoff turns into.
I didn't even mention the salary retention and all this as well with Philadelphia being involved.
But yeah, there's a lot left to be waiting, left to be wanting when it comes to this trade.
Thank you, Julian. Fantastic. Look for Julian's writing in The Athletic.
Go listen to tomorrow's CJ show. It is going to be a banger.
CJ has been just pumping out the tweets all day long, breaking a whole bunch of news.
and he's going to say a lot of juicy stuff and go off some more machinations on the cj show tomorrow
edmonton oilers fans i am absolutely so sorry that vegas is in your division same with you
vancouver canucks fans but if anybody is gonna just go super saiyan and knock off the golden
knights it'll be connor mcdavid so don't get too defeated oilers fans you gotta you got a puncher's
chance in this too and vancouver who knows if demko just steals one all you need to do is win
four games if you're a fan of a team the pacific division it's gonna be a tough one but these
playoffs are gonna be so much fun that's it that is it for me tonight i will see you back very soon
go listen to the steve dangle podcast with sid sixero it is a great episode that's it that's
all i gotta say don't get mad at mark stone for having a lacerated spleen that's a ridiculous
thing to do good night from toronto
No one knows the trade deadline and deadline day like Troy Stetcher.
For the past three seasons, Troy Stetcher has been traded at the deadline.
So in 2022, Stetcher went from the Detroit Red Wings to the Los Angeles Kings for a seventh round pick.
In March of 2023, Stetcher went from the Coyotes, who he signed with in the offseason, to the Calgary Flames with Nick Ritchie.
And in return, they traded away Brett Ritchie and Connor McKee.
And then this season, what we're here to talk about is the Edmonton Oilers have now acquired
Troy Stetcher from the Arizona Coyotes, who he re-signed with this past offseason after being
traded to the Flames. He went back to the Coyotes, and now the Coyotes have flipped him again.
And this time in return, they have received a 2027 fourth round pick, and they've also sent
back a 2024 seventh round pick with Troy Stetcher to the Edmonton Oilers. And this deal, it's for
a right-handed defenseman from the Arizona Coyotes who's not named Matt Dumba. A lot of the rumors
is that Matt Dumba is on the move. He's probably going to get moved before tomorrow. But the
Edmonton Oilers went for the cheaper version of Matt Dumba, and that is Troy Stetcher. And if you
are looking for Edmonton to acquire some big hulking D to compete with a team like Vegas,
who just continues to stack six, five guys on their back end, or Colorado, who is a big team
in their own right edmonton didn't go that way they went with a depth defenseman in troy stetcher
who's 510 185 pounds who's probably not going to crack their lineup right away or full time but
they're gonna have troy stetcher as a seventh defenseman for their playoff run and there's a
couple things with with stetcher that you look at and you say okay he's definitely going to be
useful he was playing he played four games with the los angeles kings during their playoff run
when they acquired him at the trade deadline. And for Edmonton, depth is always going to be
something they need. We know that the playoffs are a war of attrition, and it doesn't hurt to
give up an asset in a fourth round pick three years from now to get that depth. And you also
get the seventh back. And I don't hate this idea of having Troy Stetcher for the stretch run towards
the playoffs. Now the Oilers coaching staff have the ability to replace either Cody Ceci or Vinny
on the right side whatever they like you know Troy Stetcher can fit in the lineup there on any
given night from now until the playoffs and maybe a little bit in the playoffs he's been playing over
18 minutes a night in Arizona so we know that he's been trusted to be in an NHL lineup for
a lot of minutes night in and night out and now for really nothing the Edmonton Oilers have that
extra body and for the Oilers they've been playing the greatest hockey in the history of their
franchise. And that is not hyperbole. This is from Sportsnet Stats this afternoon. The Oilers are
33-8-1 in their last 42 games. This is their most wins in a 42-game span in a single season
in franchise history. So I don't know if the Oilers are done, if Ken Holland, if Jeff Jackson,
who's really running the show there, are done for today and tomorrow. But if you look at their cap
situation. This one is from Puckpedia. If the Oilers made no further moves through the end of
the season, they would finish with a cap hit of $83,475,000. That means that that $25K of the
$3.45 million bonuses already earned by Brown and Perry would not be charged to next season
as an overage. So with that being said, I don't think avoiding cap overage charges, because right
now they're perfect that's something i complained about very early on in the season is how hey you
gave connor brown these bonuses and they're gonna be on your cap for next season because you're
gonna spend to the cap and then they gave out cory they gave cory perry bonuses and those are
gonna be on the cap and now they're in a situation where they can avoid those overages i don't think
that is enough reason to not make another deal even though i think the oilers are very good and
the adam henrik deal is excellent for their offense and they could be good as they are but
if there's an opportunity to do more don't i hope ken holland and jeff jackson don't look at next
year's cap as a deterrent to do that because their oilers are so good right now as illustrated by the
record over the last 42 games you need to do everything you can here this season to try and
get this team to win because you have an unbelievable team this year and it's going to be
real tough going through vegas going through colorado wherever they end up in the first two
rounds of the playoffs, wherever they end up in terms of the seating and their division placement,
it's going to be a hard matchup in that first round and they need all the help they can get.
That's why Troy Stetcher is a great move. It's more help for the Oilers for their playoff run.
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TRADES! TWO OF THEM! Two Colorado ones as well. The Colorado Avalanche made two trades
on Wednesday, two days before the trade deadline. They made another two on Thursday and these
guys sneakily doing a fantastic job. McFarlane, Sakic and company. And no, Producer Drew did
not pay me to say that. First, the Avalanche dealing with a divisional rival. The Avs acquired
depth winger Brandon Duhaime from the Minnesota Wild in exchange for a third round pick which is
a decent pick but it's down the road in 2026. Which is actually a deal that could work out
decently for the Wild because the Avs are really really good now, two years from now who knows. It
could be better but it's a wild card. Then a second deal with another divisional rival, this
one a little trickier. The Colorado Avalanche acquire big forward Yaakov Trennan as well as
WHL defenseman Graham Sward in exchange for WHL defenseman, there's another one, Jeremy
Hanzl and a 20-25 third round pick. So if you're into the niche of Colorado Avalanche
third round picks well this is a bad day for you. There is a theme here. The Trennan trade
to me it's Yaakov Trennan for a third round pick. The swap of WHL defensive prospects
is to me just a wash. The main difference is Jeremy Hanzl who went to the Nashville
Predators is under contract whereas Graham Sward, it's just his signing rights. So
he could tell the Avalanche to take a hike. Which is an opportunity they might not turn
down on account of it's Denver and the mountains are beautiful.
Dad humor- we had a baby on Sunday shut up I'm tired. There is a theme here though
with what Colorado is doing. Do you like professional wrestling? Are you into that? Is that the
sort of thing you're into? You know the tag team The New Day? You know former champion
Big E? That huge dude who did that gyration and moved his hips and did the splits? Well,
he once said something that I think Joe Sackick and the Colorado Avalanche would agree with.
Quote is, I wanna see two big men with big chests and big muscles bumpin' meat. That's
why I'm here. That's why I watched wrestling as a kid. He meant hockey. You want your 5
star matches, you want your 30 minute classics, not me. BIG MEATY MEN SLAPPIN' MEAT! Now
Now I think there's a lot that can be gleaned from that. Because what do you want? Maybe
not your 5 star matches and 30 minute classics, what you want are your high flying forwards
and your STALWART DEFENSEMEN. There's a thing, Colorado already has those. Really
sneakily they've rebuilt their forwards. Like look at this. This is just what Daily
Faceoff has, it's not necessarily how it works out. First line of Arturi Lekkonen,
hey I got it right. Nathan McKinnon, Mikko Rantanen. Second line, Jonathan Drouin with
Casey Middlestadt and Valerie Nikushkin. Third line, this is so annoying! Miles Wood, Ross
Colton, Zach Parise. I would try to upgrade that Parise slot but other than that that's
a really annoying third line. And then the fourth line, BIG MEATY MEN BUMPIN' MEAT!
Brandon Duhaime, Andrew Cogliano, Yakov Trennan. Yakov Trennan! 10 goals in 60 games, he's
only got uh, 14 points. 6 foot 2, 200 pounds! And Brandon Duhaime in 62 games, 4 goals,
4 assists, 8 points. 6 foot 2, 200 pounds! BIG MEATY MEN SLAPPING MEAT. Listen, Ryan
Johansen it seems like they couldn't get rid of fast enough so he's gone. Obviously
their decor looks a lot different with Sean Walker coming in and uh, Bowen Byram going
out. But that 4th line is big and nasty right now with Duhaime and Trennan, who Trennan
by the way can also play some centre. Now you might be saying to yourself, alright so
they only spent a 3rd round pick on Duhaime, I can live with that. They only spent a 3rd
round pick on Trennan, I can live with that. Do the Avalanche have any picks left? And
the answer is not no, it's almost no, but it's not no. Get a load of this. The Colorado
Avalanche have no 2nd and no 3rd in this draft. They have their 4th, they don't have their
own 5th but they do have Seattle's. They have their 6th, they have two 7ths. Next year!
No 1st! No 2nd! No 3rd! They have a 4th, 5th, 6th and 7th. And then even in 2026 they don't
have a 3rd. But here's what they do have. A little bit of potential for Gabriel Landeskog
to come back and play games. Also, a little bit of wiggle room under the cap in part because
of LTIR. And their 2024 first round pick. They do have their 2026 first round pick but
like that's, that's down the line man. I wonder if for the right price that first
round pick this year could be had. I guess we'll see. What do you think about the Colorado
Avalanches addition so far? I think their decor got better, I think their offense got
way better and obviously once they recover from the injury bug a little bit, once these
players actually fly to Colorado and get in the lineup. I think they're gonna be a problem
man. For now, that is it for this one. Thank you very much for watching. Click like if
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Okay, so let's talk about Gustav Forsling, a brand new $46 million deal over eight years,
which is incredible value for your top-pairing defenseman.
And if you don't believe me, check out Dom LeCision.
He's got a chart for you.
He's got a smart guy chart.
Now, I'm not a smart guy, and I don't understand every chart, but I can understand this history.
Let's talk about it.
How did Gus Forsling, a fifth-round pick, get to be a top-line defenseman playing with Aaron Ekblad every night?
for the Florida Panthers. Well, the Vancouver Canucks traded him as a prospect to the Chicago
Blackhawks in 2015 for Adam Clendenning. And then four years later, after he plays about 30,
40 games every year with the Chicago Blackhawks, they trade him to the Carolina Hurricanes along
with Anton Forsberg for Calvin DeHaan, which was a big move at the time, right? That's a big draft
day move. The interesting thing about Forsling in Carolina is he didn't play. They acquire him,
but then they make him play in the AHL the entire year, and then they waived him.
Smartly, the Florida Panthers picked him up, and he played really, really well,
and he signed for a couple of years at $2.666667 million. That's right. There's a 67 in there,
and they beat the Leafs last year in the playoffs. It's fitting.
Now, that deal, great term on that, three years, $8 million, and he gets the chance
to establish himself. Now, the Panthers have been dominant, but oftentimes we focus on their
forwards. We talk about Kachuk. We talk about Nick Cousins being a rat. We talk about Sam Bennett
being an absolute missile. We don't talk a lot about their defense, even though it's really
strong. And I just want to kind of contextualize this for you as much as I can when it comes to
how strong the Ekblad-Forsling pairing is. Now, Panthers fans, you already know this.
um Forsling himself has nine goals and 22 assists in 61 games he's averaging about 22 minutes a
night and his plus rating this year is 44 he's a plus 44 this year that is bonkers by the way
he finished two years ago as a plus 41 this is a very very very good hockey player and crazy value
for a guy that's playing top line minutes on your defense if you're into Corsi his Corsi is near 60
uh for five on five leads um he is a uh i think his expected goals uh is 58.29 that's crazy when
he's on the ice he's a real factor and a real force and it's pretty amazing that bill zito got
him at this aav but i think it speaks to a couple of things first off um when you put a system
together like the florida panthers have uh especially in the last couple of years remember
they won the president's trophy a couple of years ago, had a bit of like a fall off last year. And
then all the way, it went all the way to the Stanley cup finals. You know what I mean? It's
weird. Cause we look at last year for the Florida Panthers as though they struggled and they did in
the regular season, but we all remember the playoffs year before they won the president's
trophy. They ran away with it. And I think what's been fascinating is watching players
willing to resign because they believe in the process. Now does Forsling, if he hits the open
market this year make more money, I feel like you can almost bet on it. I can't imagine how that's
not possible. But sometimes it's great to be in a state where it's warm all the time and you got a
chance to win the Stanley Cup and hey, the taxes are low too. Not so bad. And what's frustrating
as a non-Florida Panthers fan is how good this makes them for a long time to come. Because not
only is this player a factor every time he hits the ice, he's only 27 years old. This is a guy
that's going to be around for a long, long time. And I feel like as a Florida Panthers fan, if
you're looking at this, you want to keep this group together. You've got something good here.
The vibes are immaculate. You look at their last 10 games, they're on an absolute tear.
It was looking like Boston was going to run away with the Atlantic division.
And now we're not even considering that. Now Boston's fumbled the bag a little bit there,
but Florida had to win like every game and they've won almost every game uh they are going to be
scary come playoff time they're physical they're very very strong and uh they can score a bunch
of goals too and they're opportunistic that was the thing last year in the playoffs this team
has the pieces to be opportunistic opportunistic all the time and let's be honest if you're
Forsling why leave that you're guaranteed a spot next to Aaron Eckblad you got chemistry
It works.
You're having fun.
Like I said, the vibes are immaculate.
This is a great signing by Bill Zito.
This is a great team in Florida.
Finally, we're finally getting sustained success in Sunrise.
And if I wasn't a Leafs fan, I'd be thrilled for them.
But I'm a Leafs fan.
I'm still thrilled for them, except if they play the Leafs.
So congrats to Gus Forsling.
This is a great signing.
And I almost wonder if it was preempted.
It's so weird that it happened next to the trade deadline.
I wonder if there was a little bit, and I don't know if this is the case or not,
wonder if there was a little bit of, well, we better sign here and get this done or we might
have to make a trade. Don't know that that's the case, but it sort of feels weird with the timing,
doesn't it? Anyway, there's your breakdown. Gus Forsling, Florida Panthers, a pain in the
ass for the next eight years, and congrats to them. Let's talk about Anthony Beauvillier,
who's had a really interesting year this year a couple of trades already and this latest one in
nashville is an interesting one because anthony bevillier is an interesting piece for the national
nashville predators if you remember he split last season between the new york islanders and vancouver
canucks and it was really strange when the canucks picked him up because it was like they're not going
anywhere and they're not really doing anything but we're gonna we're gonna get anthony bevillier
okay fine good the canucks dealt him 22 games into this season to the chicago blackhawks the
Chicago Blackhawks then sent him to the Nashville Predators for a fifth round pick.
Now, Bevilier's production is a little bit down this year.
That's not just a product of playing on the Chicago Blackhawks, who aren't great.
It's also because he had a wrist injury.
He's been back for about a month, but he hasn't scored a lot.
This is a guy that's got four goals this entire season.
And even on a team like the Blackhawks, where a veteran player who's got some speed and got some skill like Bevilier does,
you've got to remember, this guy was a late first round pick back in the day.
He was still only getting about 14 minutes a night.
So it doesn't really feel like a fit.
Why does he fit the Nashville Predators?
Well, the Nashville Predators are interesting because they are like the ultimate depth team.
If you look at the Nashville Predators, the scoring is completely spread out.
Let's go through the list here, okay?
You got Phillip Forsberg, who's outrageously good.
64 points in 63 games.
Yossi, outrageously good.
61 points in 63 games.
And then you got guys like O'Reilly, Nyquist, Novak.
Tommy Novak who just signed that extension the fall off in points that was really interesting
Ryan O'Reilly 54 points Nyquist with 53 and then fifth on team scoring is Tommy Novak and then
Colton Sissons with 34 and 32 respectively and it just goes down from there now I'm not expecting
Anthony Baviglia to get crazy points by coming to the Nashville Predators but what he does give them
are options they're probably going to the playoffs this year unless something absolutely catastrophic
happens and you get injuries and you need guys like Baviglia to play up and down your lineup now
as i said he's done some center he's done some left wing he gives you that flexibility and this
is a guy that at his height you know right before the pandemic which feels like eons ago now he was
a 40 35 40 point guy those guys become extremely valuable in the playoffs when you're talking about
your top guys having wrist injuries or back injuries or whatever else comes up now like i
said bevilier has had a wrist injury and it seems to have affected his play they're really hard to
shake off mid season. Um, but you know, this is hockey, everybody's playing with something and
he's going to have to figure it out. I'm, I'm curious about how often he draws into the lineup
over the guys that are already there. The thing about Nashville and you know, it could be because
they didn't go see you too, uh, is they play really well as a team as is. And when general
managers, uh, or presidents in this case with, um, Barry Trotz make deals, they have to take
into account what's working with their team and why. And the interesting thing about the Nashville
Predators is going into the season, not many people would have really pegged them as like
a guaranteed, absolutely going to the playoffs team. But what they do is they play a great team
game, very Barry Trotz hockey. Just double down on that defense, prevent shots, don't score a lot.
I mean, it's the Nashville Predators of old under Barry Trotz all over again. And I think the New
York Islanders more recently where Barry Trotz was coaching are another great example of what
that can be. Um, but Billy, I can fit into that because he's useful. He's going to find roles on
this roster. And I don't think it's really set in stone what he's going to do right away. Uh,
but he certainly helps that ability to kind of switch things around. And as I said, you don't
want to mess too much with team chemistry and maybe Nashville feels like we got a good thing
going. Let's add a little bit of depth and we'll see where this goes. Somebody inevitably is going
down in the playoffs with an injury and bevillier helps that so uh the interesting thing i think for
the chicago blackhawks is you know last year they were such players at the deadline this year they're
not really expected to do all that much there isn't a lot to sell and the guys that you would
expect them to sell like you know a peter morazic have actually signed on to stay on longer because
a it's a guaranteed job at really good money and b um somebody's got to play for it they can't just
keep selling. Conor Bedard has got to play with somebody next year and this year too.
So for the Chicago Blackhawks, I'm wondering what their strategy is going into tomorrow's
deadline if they have one at all. I think if you're a team like a Capstrak team, like most
of the teams who are at the tops of their divisions, you call the Chicago Blackhawks
and go, hey, can I throw in some picks and you take some salary and we double retain on somebody?
I think that's the factor they're going to play.
As for the Nashville Predators, lightning in a bottle right now.
They didn't go see U2, and now they're just absolutely crushing it.
Amazing, right?
So if you're the Nashville Predators, why change too much?
I don't see them doing a whole lot more than this, but watch.
They'll go make some crazy move, and I'll have to eat my words.
I think what they have is pretty good.
Unless there's some sort of otherworldly elite talent available on the level of like
Philip Forsberg and Roman Yossi,
I think that they kind of keep it the same.
And that might be a good thing.
I don't think people are taking them seriously.
As seriously as perhaps they should.
Especially with teams like Edmonton and Vegas
and Colorado and Dallas to look out for.
They could surprise.
This could be a second or a third round team.
You just don't know.
It's the playoffs.
So, interesting pickup for the Nashville Predators.
Anthony Bevilier.
Hopefully he finds a little bit more life
and a little bit more ice time in Nashville.
We'll see how it goes.
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