The Steve Dangle Podcast - No Big Deal | September 5, 2025

Episode Date: September 5, 2025

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The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle, Adam Wild, and Jesse Blake. Okay, Drew and Stu doing a live stream. If you like football, the game went past midnight last night, Toronto time, because of the lightning. Not the hockey team. No. The lightning kind of stopped it for about 20 minutes in there.

But Drew and Stu are doing a live stream, 8 o'clock this weekend. It's going to be Bills-Ravens, which is going to be a great matchup. Drew is a huge Bills fan. A lot of people in southern Ontario are, and they're wrong. But that's okay. People are allowed to make the wrong choice. The Steelers are the correct choice. Damn.

But yeah, Drew and Stu, kind of like watch along just like what Steve and Jesse and I do. But it's Drew and Stu. Is this why you're so passionate about Dubas and Crosby and the Penguins? Like you're just a Pittsburgh sports guy. I am. I am. You know, I do pay particular attention to Pittsburgh sports. I do follow a lot of like Steelers, like beat writers and stuff like that.

You know, it's like... Big Pirates guy? No one is a big Pirates guy. Not even the owner of the Pirates is a big Pirates guy. Pittsburgh people, no. Well, two out of three. yeah yeah like even even the commissioner is not a pirates guy did you hear that this summer the commissioner is like no when they they asked the commissioner i think it was on pat mcafee they

were like hey uh so the um you know because they want a cap right and they with a cap comes a floor meaning you have a minimum spent oh so he doesn't want it yeah well so that well they the the um the commissioner wants a minimum spend oh no of course because the commissioner they brought up pittsburgh because pat mcafee is from pittsburgh and uh and he said yeah we're gonna have to do something there because this guy i think he's only signed one free agent since like 2016 like everybody like it's like are they just all drafted yeah yeah or they it's like a bizarre there's like some bizarre stat about it and it's what's crazy about it is they drop guys like um ikf who the the jays just signed they dropped him before they had to pay him a 250 000 bonus got it because and

they did that last year to who was it jesse they've done it this year to a couple guys so yeah bonuses will be coming up to coming up due guys will be hitting milestones be like okay a hundred strikeouts and you get this bonus and the pirates are notorious for dropping them like a week before they hit those bonuses it's really shady stuff yeah they're the worst yeah they're worse but i think two players this summer yeah uh isaiah kinder falafel was one of them and another guy I forget his name. But yeah, the owner is just terrible. And last year, it was another former Jay who was waived

or sent down, actually, right before he was due to hit his bonus. And it was like a plate appearance bonus. They just send them down. There are major league players that should not be in the minors that they're sending down so that they don't have to pay these bonuses. And this is what Drew and Stu are going to talk about? No, not at all. You guys went off somewhere else.

I did that. That's my fault. That's my fault. I also want to show you this. Now, Steve, you're Italian. Half. This weekend is the Italian Grand Prix And when we talk about

Media scrutiny And fans being interested in a sport And excited about a sport And oh my god They're too passionate It's too much I want you to look at this picture Of Lewis Hamilton and Charles Leclerc

Meeting They literally are like Fans Arrest them all of them oh wait no sorry so in racing this is regarded as a good thing yes we like yeah okay okay sorry continue yeah anyway so i just i thought i'd show you that to say hey in other sports uh people expect fans to be ballistic it's crazy oh europe yeah i know right yeah that's a beautiful church europe's so silly that's a church right i assume yeah it i i don't

think it's a walgreens they look yeah it might be now it could be maybe a long goes they got long goes in italy it's a hard rock cafe actually yeah uh i honestly it's a uh i just thought that was a pretty cool picture i i can't imagine what it's like to drive for ferrari and go to italy anyway uh our good friend tim haraney from nailing the apex is in monza at the track this weekend he was at the dutch grand prix last weekend he said uh the dutch know how to have a really good time so i said it was it was an absolute and i think he biked to the track That's awesome. In typical Netherlands.

Tell him he's a nerd. Yeah. Oh, you pedal bike? You nerd. Nerd. Okay, so let's get into it because we have to start today's show with not a big deal. Oh, it's not a big deal. Guys, it's not.

It's no big deal. It's no big deal. It's no big deal. Okay? Are Katy Perry and Justin Trudeau about to walk through that? They might. Oh, wow. I keep getting told that there's a particular Edmonton star player who's out of contract at the end of the year, and that's not a big deal.

And the question is, what are the Oilers going to do with Matias Ekholm? I'm kidding. He is up. But it's Connor McDavid. And we were told that it wasn't a big deal. And Chris Johnson yesterday on the CJ show said, I think he wants to wait. I think he's comfortable waiting. I don't think there's a rush.

Yes, they're accurately reporting. when connor mcdavid signs he's going to sign a big deal he has not signed so therefore there's no big deal i see what you did there guys i think it's just a misunderstanding maybe you know what it could be a syntax error i think it's our ignorant eastern dialect that we have here everything's got to be west versus east yesterday alone two mcdavid interviews one with sportsnet one with tsn because they're always very fair right um so mark specter got the sports net one ryan rashog got the tsn one we got a rant from bob stoffer from uh ch or ched uh in uh in edmonton talking about how toronto's the only market driving this story what's the deal with toronto

that's just every oilers writer ever and play the hits oh we're not done because david golden circle staples uh called out seven or eight toronto writers and commentators over the last 10 years talking about how mcdavid really didn't want to be in edmonton now i can understand actually given the quotes that he gave us i can understand why he's pissed that is one of the few things he has not bent the truth about no he's 100 right Now, the Stauffer rant's interesting because he's basically like, who's driving this? Now, Bob Stauffer, who, again, we put him on the Mount Rushmore of great, knowledgeable, intelligent, on-air people in Edmonton. Reasonable Oilers media.

Yes. But he said, who is driving this? He's like, I think it's those people in Toronto. And David Staples, because he had the door opened. I'm just going to play Seinfeld music every time Edmonton. I'm just going to run the names. I'm going to run the names over the last 10 years. justin bourne yeah oh he like named people i haven't read this so yeah i'll i'll bring it up

i'll bring it up but i'm just going to give you the names first justin bourne all right bruce arthur and again it's an old quote because bruce arthur doesn't really report on sports anymore no no no john shannon friend of the show uh dave hodge who has not been on air for a while Jeff Blair who's who's usually a baseball guy uh Sid Sixero who yeah can we get can we get some people who are active and Cathal Kelly and I'm like is Cathal Kelly still working none of the okay can you say the list again so it's Justin Bourne not a journalist yeah but we got one person who's currently working yes in media well they're currently working in media but like not No, covering hockey.

Justin Bourne. Justin. Active show that is on the air right now talking about hockey. Got it. Bruce Arthur. No. John Shannon. Yes.

Yes. So we got two. Dave Hodge retired. Dave Hodge was Ron McClain before Ron McClain. I want to look up how old Dave Hodge is because I'm like, he's in his 80s. He's been around forever. He's 80 years old. Yeah.

Very retired. Not relevant here. Is he partially retired? very very retired 100 percent retired see twitter for twitter gives the illusion of this guy's still working yeah no it's just yapping yeah well it's like when al strachan was on twitter you're like oh my god uh so dave hodge jeff blair baseball yeah jeff blair doesn't do hockey and well he did he did a little bit and we'll read some of these quotes like 10 years ago on like mccowan show no Oh, he was forced to do Dangle Dial for a little bit.

Jeff Blair is the baseball guy now. That's not relevant. You know what's crazy is even when he was at the Globe and Mail, he was a baseball guy. He was always a baseball guy. Sid Sixero, and this was a, I think that was a breakfast television quote that he pulled, and then Cathal Kelly.

Sid is a dear friend and not a journalist. Yeah, I think Sid would be the first one to be like, I'm not a freaking journalist. Yeah, no, I was just yapping. That's all I was doing. I was yapping. the calder cup means nothing but if you think it means something whatever we're all just yapping journalism means nothing journalism means nothing i want an all gen z gen alpha slang

version of the sid six zeros show okay now he starts oh my god that would be funny skippity toilet it reads gen z quotes or something on god for real no cap mcdavid he's coming to toronto on god i like this i hate this actually uh john shannon so so so if you if you go forward in in uh um uh david staples article number two because he's got the my tig section he says ontario-based nhl insider this is a god now what's amazing is that david staples knows who john shannon is john shannon was the executive producer the head of hockey night in canada in its heyday for 20 years 20 years dude and then worked at Sportsnet on the air after that.

Okay. And John has a podcast with Darren Millard, who's now based out of Vegas. And it's called 100% Hockey. And he said, there are people, and this is what John said that Staples is quoting, there are people in Edmonton holding their breath. I think there's people in the Oilers front office

holding their breath. It's not going to be announced in training camp. He's going to go into the regular season without a new contract. And that backs up what Connor said, that backed up what CJ said, what LeBron said, what elliot friedman has said john just said that john said that they're all getting the same information have they skipped the cope phase and gone directly to seething yeah well it sounds like

they they took the whole cope and see the thing and it's just seething time in edmonton um now uh stoffer or sorry staples does say that he he lived in toronto a couple of times and he takes a couple shots he's like the elites there tend to be obsessed with making it big in new york or london what what well we're not are you talking we're not elites so we don't know i don't know that's not that that's not true i'm not an elite i have no idea but i don't even get it uh but he then goes on and and goes a little he gets a little political we're going to avoid that part uh he says something about alberta you know uh instituting its fair treatment under the constitution i'm not getting into that we

piss in round sinks here in alberta because we all be we believe in being equal we stare at our fellow man in the eyes like a man just hold it would that be a face in your hand that's facing reality that's facing reality if his name is reality i'm staring reality in the face member in hand having a piss in public now my name is david staples if i were david staples or an oilers fan i'd be upset with some of these quotes because it started he says it started in 2015 steve simmons said there's a reason uh that mcdavid looked unhappy it's because he was unhappy this isn't where conor mcdavid wanted to be drafted to remember what in the draft lottery where there's the conor mcdavid i was there in that building it was the whole building got colder

okay so that was real right that was a thing yeah that was real uh on tsn's the reporters which is where dave hodge's name comes in because that show's been canceled for a while yeah i don't know if i prematurely retired him but he's definitely not active yeah dave hodge's thinly veiled disdain for anything associated with edmonton uh and the oilers and and the then dismal oilers uh he basically uh um he said something to the effect of that uh uh he wanted to clearly be a buffalo saver and would have seen a different expression on his face had those odds have held up because remember going into that draft buffalo should have won that pick and and i don't know if that's true i think it's i think it's extremely rich for an edmonton writer to

refer to uh anyone from toronto having thinly veiled disdain for edmonton as opposed to just outward hostility from Alberta and most of the rest of the country. Said the Toronto Stars' Bruce Arthur, the Edmonton Oilers are going to have Connor McDavid's career to play with. This is not good. Now, to be fair, the Oilers

were awful and poorly run at the time. How'd they win? How'd they get Connor McDavid? Did they win him? Did they pull him out of the bottom of a cereal box? And Taylor Hall and Ryan Nugent Hopkins and Nile Yakupov. guys all in that five-year span six-year span they were legendary they were synonymous

with cataclysmic failure yeah almost almost more so than the leafs except they've been to the finals in 06 yeah which was such a great run it was a great run and i was cheering for the oilers which is why they lost and he said more anti-oilers uh abounded at the time uh bruce arthur tweeted seconds after the Oilers won the pick and that was the day Connor McDavid was ruined. Now, I get why

he's mad about that. Bruce, you didn't need to do that. Okay. But he's a Toronto guy. I don't know. And he said, if you thought

the mind reading and body language hallucinations were bad, Toronto sports commentator Jeff Blair, Sportsnet columnist, reached a new low with his modest proposal

that the NHL should have rigged the draft lottery to give McDavid to the Maple Leafs. Quote, Yeah, Jeff meant that earnestly. You're right.

What? Yeah, Jeff meant that earnestly. McDavid would have been of maximum marketing value and would have been the most immediate positive impact in Toronto. The Maple Leafs have bankrolled the NHL for a long time. Correct. It would have been nice to get a McBone thrown in their direction, you know? No, and he said that seriously.

Yeah. No, no, Jeff Blair said that with 100% honesty, reported it, and said, this is fact. They should have rigged it. Like, what? What are we doing here? Now, Blair went on to say, fairness sometimes sucks. You know, it was fair that the Oilers got the pick.

Fairness sometimes sucks. Connor McDavid should be a Maple Leaf, and everyone knows it, including McDavid himself. And I mean, okay. I don't know that he thought that. So I'm talking about Edmonton media going for the cheap Edmonton points, the hometown rah-rah points. I mean, that's just another guy going for hometown points.

Jeff's like, hey, we're all from Toronto, right? ah he should be here and people read that and they went yeah and then we went about our day right yeah and we all moved on and it's something that didn't need to be brought up 10 years later that's such a that's such a like a 30 second comment on a radio show and we all go on with our lives edmonton media better hope this guy like let's pretend he signs an extension in june okay mcdavid yeah okay that's still a good outcome for you but you gotta get there yeah if he signs soon you're fine but at the pace you're going at you're gonna burn out well before the olympics you can't do this all fucking year you cannot do this i think it's gonna be like mitch marner

where it's once the puck is dropped it'll be no noise i'm telling you last episode i nailed it You've got to set a drop-dead date for your anxiety, and then you've got to be like a man and do the manly thing, which is piss in a circle and bury your stress. Yeah, and it's Connor David, and he's still on your team.

Yes, he's still an oiler. You could win the cup this year. Justin Bourne, the otherwise sane and reasonable senior hockey columnist at The Athletic at the time, said on Toronto Radio he hoped McDavid would ask out of Edmonton, and this is after the 1718 and the 1819 seasons which were terrible uh and staples says this was

largely due to major injuries to sakara and clef bomb i think there were more issues than that do you have any recent shit there dave uh he said you know he wants to i'm sure he wants to get the hell out of there but that's not really a way to do it without there's not really a way to do it without creating some lebron james-esque firestorm with the decision i would love to see it it would be great theater wouldn't it all i know is i really want this to happen i'm starting to get offended by being left out born wasn't alone talk shit about mcdavid far more recently born wasn't alone bruce arthur piped in we'll need suction cups ropes flashlights and hacksaws we'll need a balaclava or two and a plan because it's starting it's uh it's starting to look like

time to free conor mcdavid now this continues and i'm not gonna he's he's what i'm he's because i read the article so like you the way you did it he's going through the timeline of mcdavid's career of when toronto commentators said that mcdavid should leave edmonton yes they were hot ass he was scoring a hundred plus points every year and they were still missing the playoffs they sucked and he thinks all of this throughout the years has compounded into what what what is what is like the thesis here in bringing up all of this uh i think the thesis is it was a jumping off point from the bob stoffer rant which we have not played which uh we don't have to play but essentially bob stoffer was like who's driving this it's the people in toronto can i driving

it like now who's driving the story now who's driven it like throughout because bob stoffer said august august 28th or august 30th or end of august this deal is going to be done it's not done it's not the end of the world and there is no big deal and then he said there's no big deal and then he said it's not really a story on tuesday the greatest player in the world okay has no contract so and it's not a big deal and he did two interviews with the two major sports networks yesterday and it's not a big deal oh so we big deal we didn't skip the coping phase then right so um so on this though like so bringing that like what is the what's the real like what is the end goal with the old toronto tweets i'll read you the i'll read you the final paragraph

and we can discuss okay uh because it's conciliatory he said in the end imagine having a device where you could piss and wash your hands at the same time sorry to be fair that would be really space advantageous i don't know a hundred percent people have the washrooms they'd be in Yeah, efficiency, man. Cap space? We need to talk about crap space. We got to optimize our bathrooms. Sorry.

Yeah, nobody talked about the shitting sink. Yeah. We got to talk about that one. No, that's what goes behind in another circle around the urinal. Because you got to piss and shit. Yes. You sit around it and stare at each other. Dead in the eyes.

Like the frigging, what's that Simpsons episode? The Stonecutters? You sing songs and clank your beers. Yes. They did. And they were a great empire for hundreds of years. And we shall build a new pissing, shitting Rome in Edmonton. No, he said, in the end, and this is very conciliatory.

I think he's going through all the grievances, and then he finishes with, in the end, I've met enough great Toronto fans and seen enough excellent reporting from Toronto sports commentators not to have any kind of major grudge against the Leafs. can you name them over a bunch of unnecessary paragraphs i'd love to see an oilers leaf stanley cup final outside of a canada usa olympic final it would be the biggest treat of the coming winter fingers crossed and i agree with him on that i mean we've been begging for it for years yeah and then uh it quickly became can we just can we what if we got out of the third round but i threw out of the second round we sometimes life throws your curveballs and you don't have time

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and I think that's a big compliment to both of them. And so let's start with Speck's interview with McDavid. Tell me again, again, the thesis of my break here, of the way I wanted to start this is it's a big story, and we keep being told it's not. It's a big story. And if it's not a big story, the reporters aren't going to ask about it.

But surprisingly enough, in both interviews, they ask about it. Hey, Connor. Mark Spector, first question. Does Burgers Priest suck, or at very least is it overrated? I'll give Speck credit. He didn't start there. Oh, okay. He was talking about, he asked him about sort of like on his play last year,

and it's funny because this is kind of scary if you're in that division. He says, I've had plenty of very good years, and I wouldn't categorize last season as one of those. I mean, by his standards, he's right. 100 points in 67 games. It's hilarious. He said, I'm excited to see how good I can be. I want to prove that scoring 50 or 60 is not a one-off.

I've had 50 goals, I've had 100 assists, and I like scoring goals a little bit more. Connor McDavid had a down year last year by his standards. He had less than 30 goals, I'm pretty sure? Yeah, I think 25, 26. Ironically, he scored one of the biggest goals of 2025, which was the Four Nation Faceoff. Right, which wasn't in the NHL.

It wasn't, but I don't give a damn. from a counting stats perspective you kind of expect more of an offensive standpoint just from strictly goals from david right yeah and i think it sounds like he's like i want to lead the league in scoring yeah our expectations are for him to always exceed our expectations right he doesn't want to look at his db page and see like um 26 goals which is the less the less not his rookie year where he broke his collarbone and only played 40 games yeah that's no it he had oh yeah sorry I misunderstood what you said. No.

No. No. Idiot. Face reality. Adam was born in Toronto, so I assumed he was wrong. In 67 games last season, Connor McDade had 26 goals and 74 assists, which is a 100-point season, but you expect so much more from him. He has 75 points in his last two playoff runs.

And by the way, only two seasons has he played and not scored 100-plus points. Good God. Like God, listen, if you think it's not a big story, good for you, but it is. And you can see why Toronto or New York or anybody else that wants Connor McDavid would be salivating at the opera. 31 teams are like, yep, I like that guy. I want him. If he's available, we're making an offer.

Now, uh, on the contract, uh, this is interesting because we talked about this on Wednesday and I think this actually provides some clarity. he said with me being me in this position in this market people are going to talk about it that's understandable and that's fair you know we've been at this a long time we're here to play hockey we have a job to do and if someone is saying something or writing something and that prevents you from doing what you got to do then maybe you're in the wrong business bless you connor the wrong line of work it's white noise that's all it is interesting uh he said i'm just not in a rush to make this decision which is what cj said on the cj show and has been saying on tsn radio and everywhere else

and the athletic yeah but where's he from by the way coburg is that far enough outside of toronto for him to be correct you should read speck's article and you definitely should read ryan rashag's article too because they're both different they're both really good both different answers so going to rashag here at tsn um he said it's a big story and obviously oiler fans have been following along closely i'm sure it's occupying a lot of your time as well we haven't heard from you for a week or so, any update on where things are at? And he said, no, no status quo. Um, he said, I'm in no rush. I'm working through it again. As I said, with my family, with Lauren and my agent, there was no grand master plan here. It's just simply, this is a big decision for me.

It's a big decision, not just for my life, but my career. I've been playing hockey since I was two years old. Everything I've put into my life's work is hockey. And that is a big decision in that. So i want to get it right not just for me uh but what's best for the organization so a lot of that is going into it um and he's like i don't want to feel like i'm rushed and then later on uh he talks about uh term length and this is a part that i also wanted to highlight because i i keep saying and again i have no connection to the mcdavid camp and i've never claimed to so i'm saying guys should sign a two-year deal wherever he goes and keep maxing out your deal ryan rashog asked him about it and he said i would say that people that say that and talk about that side of it uh like

we're trying to hit some type of home run i would say they don't know me very well and they don't spend any time around me obviously because that isn't the priority i think that's interesting i think the guys within the edmonton market understand that uh that what my desires are because they know me and players understand where i'm at and i think but he means what he means by guys is the edmonton media so that's a nice little it's a nice little compliment and i think that's good um it's not about trying to make the most amount of money i think my my former agent knows that that's jeff jackson's ceo of the edmonton oilers uh given how the last negotiations went it's about winning it's about winning over and over again and that's my priority all with the

understanding that i put a lot into this it's been 25 years of putting a lot of everything i have into this and my family deserves that security they deserve the lifestyle that being a pro hockey player and being very good at it and all the work that goes into it uh so i'm trying to find balance there so i think those are very interesting answers on where he's at i think this is an enormous story i think there's a reason that first week in september we get two connor mcdavid interviews nah this is a big story guys and as i said it's big ish now because training camp has started but every single day into this season that he does not sign it's going to get bigger and bigger and bigger and we might we're not going to talk about it every show we're not going to talk

about it every week but it's going to come up and it's going to be something that to downplay this i think is to be dishonest i suppose is my point i i just you know mcdavid talked about doing something for his whole life and enjoying the fruits of it you know uh it takes a long time to come up through the ranks in in media and make it to a certain level and you know work for one of the big telecoms what one of the one of the rights holders right and yeah and you you build your way up and everyone's waiting for you to say something because you're the voice and you get up there on your pulpit that you worked an entire lifetime to be at and everyone's waiting for the story of the day and you tell them actually there's no story

this isn't a big deal at all you talking about it indicates that's a lie yes come on it's the best player in the world back-to-back stanley cup finals four nation hero he's going to be you know one of the focal points of the olympics he's been eligible to sign a contract extension since july 1st for roughly 60 days i am shocked that a media core that takes pride in and mentions with every second breath that they got to watch and cover Wayne Gretzky. I am shocked that they now have the best player in the world again and are saying anything to do

with that player is not a big deal. That's a lie. Everything he does is a big deal. That's a lie. It's dishonest. Everything he does is a big deal. The stories you haven't talked about with Connor McDavid are going to be the ones you write about in books

that you will fall over yourselves to get that deal for in 10 or 15 years once he retires. And the stories that you do tell, how many, like every day you get to work and you're like, I got to get to this Adam Henrik piece. I just got him. This is what the public wants. I got to finish this.

Another piece about how Zach Hyman works really hard. He works so fucking hard. Man, he works hard. Man, the guy works so fucking hard. Guy works so fucking hard. Guys, it's Connor McDavid. He's the cash cow. Well, with Leon, let's not ignore Leon.

Okay. But, I mean... There's a slightly different edge to it, yes. Batman has a hard time beating the Joker without Robin. Right. Listen, we always talk about 1A and 1B. with goalies or you know we need a tandem yay when the playoffs show up who's starting who's in game one gun to the earth aliens the mon stars have got hockey powers

it's one-on-one who are you drafting you have two options connor and leon stop stop it everything he does is a big deal and anyone who tells you anything different is a little liar okay jesse absorbing all this information because that was a lot that's just in the last 24 hours what are your thoughts on this story and where it goes because my sense of it is that after today it dies off for a little bit yeah like when this thing continues throughout september what more is there to say other than the contract isn't signed right like because there's a there's a bit of hypocrisy to continue the story and just keep peddling oh he's not signed and needling the city of edmonton when like last year mitch marner wasn't signed he went to training camp talked

about it going into training camp and then once the puck is dropped you're like okay leafs are cool let's go or stamp coast the year before and everybody's playing yeah and stamp coast same thing like it was a huge story end of august when he called out his own general managers like i want to stay here and i have a contract and we talk about it for three weeks but then the hockey season is going on and then we revisit this in uh on what is it june 30th when stamko still isn't signed and they're like hey so we're not gonna sign you we don't want to pay you any money and we're like whoa he's gonna be a free agent all that stuff so i don't think it's the continuing story daily daily mcdavid check-in where's the contract kind of thing that needs to go on for

180 days throughout the nhl season that's absurd you know it's okay he talked about it we got answers he has time he continues to say i'm going to take my time and we leave it at that and then if there's news on the negotiations if him and judd go to jeff jackson and talk about things if they go to stand then there's something to talk about but if it's just daily mcdavid check-in i think that's just you're you're needling edmonton for no reason which we're not doing which i think We're not going to do that. And it's hypocritical because if somebody in Edmonton every day was like, hey, how's Mitch doing?

And just Mitch checking. Well, we'd probably just ignore them. Daily Mitch checking. We'd be like, what the fuck are you doing? Shut up. Yeah. You know? So we shouldn't be doing that same thing there.

Now, producer Hayden has something to say. What's up? What's up, Hayden? I was just going to say, like, I feel uniquely qualified to talk on this topic as I have my own, in my opinion, top five player in the league up for extension. like kaprizov could sign an extension the same way mcdavid could right now um i'm i'd like to thank edmonton fans for taking up all the noise so that i don't hear anything about kaprizov right now well to be fair no one cares about the wild yeah i know i'm the only one i'm the only one in

the city i think maybe the only one in the country uh but like also some advice for oilers fans once the puck drops i'm not thinking about it at all no actually i am gonna watch again like i said top five player in the league on my team put up ridiculous numbers and it's not just Kaprizov it's Jack Eichel as well yeah like where's our Jack Eichel isn't signed uh 30 minutes on the show yeah I think I think Frank Cervalli's been saying all year on bleacher report I think is where he's at um that or all summer that that they are already talking and that the number is going to be 13 yeah but it's not signed it's not signed but you know here's the deal if I'm a team I'm creating space.

I want Jack Eichel. First off, it's one of the meccas of hockey. Edmonton. It's just not, well, Vegas is great, but Edmonton is a hotbed. And Edmonton, and a lot of people don't know this, is a media hotbed. Edmonton media, like there are more radio stations there per capita than there are even here in Toronto. Like per population.

It's not like Vegas, where Vegas players say that people in Vegas don't give a flying no no we're not saying that yeah edmonton is a very intense media market a very intense fan market very involved like a very that edmonton like it's like my friends in radio there have said like listen if if you go in toronto if you're like hey we're gonna be at so and so nobody will show up because it's an enormous city and for a lot of people that could be a two-hour drive and they're not doing it in edmonton if a popular morning show says hey show up here we're going to be doing this a lot of people will show up they're very active and engaged in their community and i think that's a credit to the city this is a story that will pop up again and again

and again i think the smartest thing that judd moldaver and connor mcdavid did was agree to sit down for an interview because i think they saw the beginning of this week and said okay this is heating up pretty quick yeah we better we better just connor why don't you go talk to them give them the answers rather than because in in absence of an answer people will start making them up speculation judd is a is a very i don't have a ton of insight on most agents in the nhl and i don't have a ton of insight on judd but i did have one interaction with him and i just thought it was very interesting like when i did the player media tour in vegas delete delete henderson uh nevada um i talked to well i think it was well over a dozen players that day and and i met them

some of them walked into the room that i was in alone some of them walked in with their team's rep only one of them walked in with their agent who introduced themselves and that was austin matthews who has been with judd i believe for longer than connor because connor was jeff jackson yeah right uh he's an interesting character i've heard he's very energetic in all of this extremely energetic extremely passionate 41 years old as roman yosi zach berwinski connor mcdavid and friggin uh austin matthew and he revolutionized the old jersey number in the contract that he led the charge most of his guys yosi has five nine in his matthews had three four in his uh and there were there were other clients as well uh connor's gonna sign for eight times

9.7 that's what's gonna happen here but i i that i think i even i i wish i wish i was less caught off guard by the interaction because i was well he made an impression he did and i wanted my my the subtext of i think the face i made was what are you doing here but like i didn't mean it to be like what the hell but he was the only one so very fascinating character and this will not be the last time you hear his name right right and that's going to be fascinating to see how they all handle this but i for one am excited about this whether or not it's being driven out of toronto i love a good story and we in the media should love a good story it's content i think that's why we love hockey is the good story everyone listening to the show right now i need

you all to take up arms because we are going to war with a flaming battle axe against nonchalance everywhere because they are the energy vampires of the world everything is not a big deal nothing is a big deal ever connor mcdavid that's not a big deal so one day it was marner stuff and oh why the fuck are we talking about this well i kind of to be honest i felt like that too it was well yeah but the fucking guy was yapping no this is all a big deal it was it was i was just tired it didn't fall out of the sky oh i know i know i know i know he initiated his agent yapped he yapped we yapped and all of a sudden it's a problem mcdavid yapping at at a yap event yeah it's okay to yap at a yap event he yapped at a yap event so did marnie marnie yapped at

and he went to the two major sports networks the rights holders yeah and said here's how i feel yeah and then and then what happens during the summer a player signs and all the comments are who or a player gets traded who things are big deals get excited about things and if you don't get excited about things i feel sorry for you and also fuck you that's one thing i will say is that when we started the show and we were like in our early 20s i think one of the things that annoyed us was that we looked at the guys that got to cover and it was mostly guys that's why i'm saying guys we got the people that covered the sport and you could see sometimes and hear on the radio sometimes the cynicism come out and i know we're guilty of that too sometimes but ultimately the

nba has a big problem with that i turn on any show and they're just like this game sucked i'm i'm rolling into this studio every single time we get to do this and i'm going i love this yeah and this is season 13 for us i think so yeah 13 years of this and i cannot get enough nope i was dying to get back to work to do it's ramping up too yeah i mean we haven't even got nobody's even got on the ice yet like i think rookie camp starts this weekend no no like i mean every year it builds oh yeah it gets bigger yeah and that's why i think when something like this happens i think you've got people who are are i think they maybe have seen this before and so they don't get excited about it but one agreement i made with myself was i don't care if i've seen this before i'm still

gonna get pumped about it because i know there's a lot of people that will and and have you ever been to a concert yeah they're all songs you've heard before like what do you do boo play something i've never heard and usually sloppier yeah it'll sloppier than the recording nonchalant ban every nonchalant from your life yes it's okay to be excited it's gonna get worse as they get older too now unless you guys have anything else to add on the connor mcdavid thing i would like to move us on to a very interesting development that occurred overnight oh you guys with this oh anything else to add on connor anybody anybody anybody nope so have you ever tried to purchase a car and they said here's the price and then you showed up the dealership ready to sign the

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of the other young defensemen they have there but he's going to try adam i just i gotta stop you uh-oh you're talking about a player's dad yeah but you're talking about their family this is a player's dad who gave a 45 minute interview 49 49 minute interview you could round up to 50 i wanted to be exact because i didn't want someone in the comment section going well you guys thought the band was ai and then you watched further and changed your mind which a lot of carolina hurricanes fans were upset about from the last episode yeah all right rob hudson co-owner of barrington ice arena in addition deeply involved with coaching youth hockey particularly working with high level programs he's the head coach of team illinois

16 underage 16 triple a uh he was also uh in youth development through the north jersey avalanche where he runs a midget program uh so this is a hockey ass family the hudson family they are all hockey by the way lane hudson's mom i'm pretty sure uh lived either in the city or at lane's place last year just like austin matthews mom and sister moved to switzerland with him uh when he was like 18 or 19 fetchkin's mom and dad yeah kind of makes sense right because you're kind of young yeah you forget that the athletes that's on the ice you know when they get drafted in the nhl they're still young children kind of young and let's not forget the most important part rich so rich still a kid in his early 20s who's like barely used to doing his own laundry

yeah and cooking a meal like they're still children even though they're out there on the ice getting paid hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars to play hockey and you know what it is you know what i love about people who are young and rich is that that is a recipe that never goes wrong you could never that no one ever has made a bad decision in youth with their money no never especially when they have more than the average person will make in 10 years and and that's you know a million bucks right now he uh rob hudson did an interview with grant mccagg and this is his second interview with grant now grant if you don't know grant oh baby let me familiarize you with grant mccagg uh he is a habs writer that habs fans i think he's one of these guys who's just

a personality that's generally so montreal well he's not like a homer though he's a bit of a homer yeah prove it um uh here's a tweet from march 9th 2015 i honestly have dylan strome over connor mcdavid people will laugh now but come back to me in a couple years and see who's laughing how about 10 years 2016 january 16th i love matthews he's a terrific nhl center and an exceptional draft pick but at this point lina gets the nod with his upside wow okay okay uh does based on what does what they are actually doing on the ice matter to the pundits when it comes to who might go first overall no given that caco and pod colson are out playing him and have impressed before hughes is not the quote runaway leader to go first overall jack hughes

pod colson here's another one i think cockney emmy may end up being the better all-around player in terms of two-way play matthews is the better scorer and skater cockney emmy the better playmaker and defensive player not that matthews can't pass and not that cockney emmy can't shoot madre de dios just barry cockney emmy versus austin matthews 2018 october 25th edmonton's not happy toronto's not happy kneelander for pooey rv and a pick make your call pack your bags drop the puck what the fuck so this sounds a lot like a david staples article adam listen everybody's got every city's got it and i like that you're right jesse it does sound exactly and he does write for the local newspaper yeah no it just sounds like you're doing what staples did and by the way i'm

gonna shout out the habs reddit uh thread that's that post that i gave you is from 2021 the reason that i can't go and check out grant's timeline myself is he blocked me years ago and i wasn't even being mean i just disagreed with him on something and he's like who the hell are you blocked um okay and uh anyway are you blocked on twitter i am i am yeah uh so and i found that out this morning when i went to look at his timeline okay uh anyway uh what is clear here is that grant mccagg and rob hudson speak a lot and it's not just on the air when you listen to the interview there is a lot of well you told me off the air that blah blah blah and i'm like okay so they're chatting and that's there's nothing wrong with that people talk it's hockey we love hockey let's

talk hockey with hockey people i listened to the whole interview and they touch on everything from you know lane playing his off off off-handed side and how he was practicing that this year because marty just kind of put him there uh and and he and he you know did it the best he could uh it's interesting rob hudson even talks about like what kirby doc might need to do to get up to speed simplify his game he's like bullduke and and bullduke having huge hands and being a big man He's a fan of Bull Duke. Yeah, he likes Bull Duke. Yeah.

Likes Bull Duke. He just talked an odd amount about players who aren't his son. Well, you know what, though? He was asked about it. Yeah. And he tried to answer like a hockey coach would, which he is. Yeah. And I think you're allowed to provide commentary.

He doesn't work for the team or anything. He's an outside observer. It's just rare. Yes. Yeah, that is very true. To hear a family member talk openly like this about other players is very rare. Maybe. Maybe.

It's not illegal. maybe brian matthews was like neil ander and hyman are great line mates i haven't seen that interview is that brian matthews i'm pretty sure it's brian is that who is brian and emma matthews who's a very nice man from what i hear like i've heard he's a very very cordial you've met i only met him once and i was just like jesus this guy's very large and also it was nice to meet him he's he's a big guy all right the thing that's making headlines this morning as we record this is um rob hudson's answer no i'll call it what it is the threat rob hudson's threat there you go no they're gonna put this on on tiktok and i'm gonna get screwed no uh i'm gonna get radioed myself

it's gonna get instagrammed with uh adam wild says uh not a picture of me it's just gonna be any generic leaf in and it's going to be a security guard with a with a vest with a bulletproof vest hudson family issues threat uh i've had quite the week uh go to go to 10 43 of the video jesse and this is about how lane and i this surprised me surprised a lot of people lane hudson not invited to the olympic camp this summer for team usa what does rob hudson think about it you just play the uh audio here aiden i mean i know that he was motivated by by uh being picked in the 60s in his draft year would you would it be fair to say that uh not that he needs motivation i mean he's the hardest working one of the hardest working kids in the nhl but do you think this

only added a little bit more motivation for him that he wasn't one of the 16 at the uh defenseman invited to the camp i mean like personally i like from my standpoint yeah i think he should be should have been invited at a minimum invited i agree um i i think our our family as a whole have made a big commitment to usa hockey throughout the years and fair enough you know i i don't know what bill guaven was thinking or what is you know like i don't know him and he probably obviously doesn't know lane so well yeah so so i i mean i get it and people don't always make the right decisions or whatever it is like we we have to live with how they see it um we don't have to agree with it but you know there's there's obviously this fuels anyone okay you're as

competitive we can pause it if you're as competitive as lane is is now there's a second part to this but really because that was spicy enough phil guaven someone sent the quote to me and i thought they made a typo because it just said gu dash aven yes and turns out he's bill guaven i i can't imagine that a man that was this involved in hockey for this long in the united states in the northeast doesn't know bill garren's last name bill guaven he might have just misspoke but it's funny it is pretty funny well he might have been hilarious he might have been reading i here's here's my theory for the the miss the him is speaking yeah he might have been reading while he was talking and yet you ever say in the car have you seen the clip yeah but at the

beginning of the clip he swipes away a text you can see him oh okay yeah okay your theory yeah that you're reading my theory is i don't know what he was reading but guaven came out yeah It's hilarious, but I don't know if there's too much there to take away. Right. Well, there's hurt feelings. There's the other stuff. And he said, my family has made a commitment to USA Hockey. We'll come back to that in a second.

I want to mention that Lane Hudson finished 10th in Norris voting. And that's for everybody of all nationalities. Here are the names of the players that were invited and he was not included. Got it. And you tell me if he's got a point, because I think he might. Their decor is insane, though. Brock Faber. Great.

Adam Fox. Tough year, but yeah. Luke Hughes. Good player. Quinn Hughes. Great player. Noah Hannafin. Was four-nation faceoff.

Seth Jones. Very good player. Jackson Lacombe. Underrated. Charlie McAvoy. Young. Incredible. Ryan McDonough.

Old. Still good. Brett Pesci. good neil pionk good jake sanderson also young young and getting better uh oh sense fans are gonna be pissed i can't believe better why didn't you call jake sanderson the greatest defenseman ever that is the only designation you can give him got it brady shea good jacob slavin uh underrated still somehow yeah it's crazy he's a top pairing underrated player alex vlasic oh from the black oaks i'd have hudson over him he's good but holy cow zach rowinsky i mean

obviously a legend yeah yeah so good so i think he's got a point i think lane hudson should be there he there's i would say three names on that list where if it's talent alone oh my oh man at least three as many as six now lane hudson it's important to note is between 5 10 and 5 11 they ask him uh grant asked him in this interview hey like is was he 5 10 and a half he's like no no he's 5 11 and then he and grant i thought he said 5 10 no no he said he's 5 11 okay and then he said uh you know what when i was in my early 20s i because his dad played hockey in the echl yes uh rob hudson played hockey in the echl that is he said i grew an inch after 18 some people do some people do i didn't as someone as someone who is earnestly five ten and a half

i understand the struggle and what grant mentions and i think smartly is the nhl and nhl teams are going bigger and can you have two guys because the next question is about quinn hughes can you have two guys under six feet on the team now you can have two guys under six feet at camp you can do that sure who cares yes i think they make a good point later on in the interview though this is where it really grabs the headlines so 1630 jesse roughly and you're gonna hear grant and you're gonna hear rob this is where it's interesting because uh the hudson family are dual. They have access to both. These kids can play in

Canada and they can play in the United States. Yeah, 16-3. Relatives that are Canadian. Oh, I bet, I bet. You know, it was hard enough for them to cheer for the U.S. when the boys are playing, but it would be really

super easy if they were fortunate enough to play for Canada. Yeah, well, that's fair. We'll pause it there. And he talks a little bit about how brad hall did that in reverse because he was not invited to a camp in the late 80s and then said screw you guys i'm going to tm usa and i'm going to finish fourth in every tournament and he did uh except for the 96 world cup okay they won that yeah sorry i'm i yeah i gotta i gotta take my pound of flesh i know i was eight years old and i hated every moment of that was horrible that was

horrible now this is interesting because as you guys said you don't get a lot of parents talking so openly so i like this a 50 minute interview my question is rare how does you know i know they're they're kind of lighthearted here how does any of you guys think team usa reacts to something like this uh i think he gets invited to camp even harder or he gets uninvited to camp even harder um i mean he's so good you're not gonna be able to keep him away i agree although i keep thinking that with team canada and nick suzuki and i know there's some there's some interest there's some interesting things going on there like at the end of the day it's not a massive deal that he's not there because he's not making the team yeah like i i went over the

united states decor in my uh olympic preview video holy shit yeah it's incredible you could your top pair could be hughes mcavoy who did not play in the final yep yeah like it's real good it's real real good so he was never going to make the team but like neil pionk's not making the team Jackson Lacombe is not making the team I highly doubt Ryan McDonough is making the team I don't think Alex Vlasic Alex Vlasic

is I think four guys could break their legs and Alex Vlasic's not making the team as many as ten could break their legs and I'm not it's the Olympics it's an extremely

extremely exclusive club it's really hard to make that team for any country really um but it he does not hide that he's upset about the lack of invite yeah he doesn't what you would expect by the way that's not unexpected doesn't hide that he thinks it's a mistake you know what of course it's not unexpected but you rarely hear them say it right right which is why you have guys who run a podcast going holy shit someone actually said something that's super interesting um but then to say well he could play for canada that is an that's a wrinkle is it not

it's an enormous wrinkle and one that i mean i don't think american hockey fans will like and i think team us bill garen hey i have to bring this up at least once a year this is the guy who like tomahawk slammed his stick over a teammate's head at practice yeah you could go look it up just type in like bill garen slash i don't think there's any lack of intensity when it comes to bill garen is what you're saying yes uh i think he's probably handling that quote poorly you think so he probably laughed it off listen i we had bill on ap he is funny yeah and i feel like i don't know jess do you get the sense that bill garren would handle that poorly or who would he go

that probably wasn't the right call and then move on with his life i don't know bill garren well enough personally to make a judgment i'm gonna call him and i'll be honest i'm gonna call him hey billy i don't have his number he'd be like what the fuck did you just yeah exactly can i weigh in on the the first part of the clip yeah yeah because i think that was the important insight there on what rob hudson is intuating here in that in insuating intimating intimating in initiating uh intimate uh contact with grant mccagg no um i think when rob hudson said we've put in a lot of effort with usa hockey over the years i think that was the key to his whole displeasure with everything that's going on yeah lane because lane's not making the team you're

very right yeah and usa hockey probably looked at the situation said okay we got a number of people here lane doesn't have an avenue to make this team it doesn't make sense to have another puck moving light defenseman here on on that side of the ice and he's not going to be on this team So let's just leave him off. Let's bring these other people who might have better futures with USA Hockey because a player like Luke Hughes, same age, you know, has done less in the NHL, but they probably see his skill set as more useful to the future of USA Hockey because they're going to need a player like that. so they want him there at the camp right but rob hudson saw everything that lane did this past season on the ice and everything that they've done off the ice was enough to play the olympic body organization politics game to get his son there and you mentioned nick suzuki and him not being invited to things for team canada he was he was this summer though i do want to clarify the

nick suzuki thing he was this summer yeah he was on this one but in the past he has not been which has been weird and that has come up because of his unwillingness to go to things like world championships in the past because as much as we think these decisions are on ice decisions and player personnel decisions a lot of what goes on behind the scenes is strictly politics and playing the game and what rob hudson might have not realized is that even though their family has done some things with usa hockey in the past there is something there with the lane hudson situation that he has not politicked his way into that circle at this point in his career he is not so undeniably great on the ice yet that he's going to get that invite will he be the next time around

yes he's going to be there in 2030 at the next olympics in the winter and the world championships And the world, whenever he wants to play for Team USA, eventually Lane Hudson is going to be good enough to work his way there. But at 21, considering everything that kind of comes with it, clearly with Rob Hudson, he hasn't earned that right through the politicking or the on ice performance. So then my question is how I look into what he said there. So let me ask you, let me take it a step further. Steve, Jesse, I want to know this. And I'm going to go through Lane Hudson stats with the various U teams because he's been really good. Okay.

so he played for the u.s national team in their development system for a long long time i'm looking at like 20 20 20 21 he played 39 games 19 points for the u-17s and then for the u-18s he did even better 10 games eight points and then at the world juniors in 21 uh five assists in five games and then the world juniors in 22 uh eight assists in six games and then uh the world juniors in 23 uh four points in uh seven games and then i give the world juniors again six points in seven games these guys he shows up for the united states there are it's like the national program is all over his elite prospects page so my question to you is this okay jesse says he has not been undeniable enough calder trophy nor his votes to to to warrant an invite and that's fair

because rookies i remember i remember that with sydney crosby didn't make an olympic team in his rookie year and it was obnoxious and he was amazing and he should have been there and canada stunk at that tournament it wasn't just him either it was uh spezza yeah some other guy yeah when they went with all the old guys so here's my question is this non-invite really that lane is new and hasn't warranted an invite or is this a message sent yeah yeah was this a message sent As in, you think you're further along than you are. I think that's what I'm getting at more than the numbers stuff. I think everybody knows that Lane Hudson is a great player

and will be on this team eventually. It's that at this young age and where he is and everything that's with him on the ice and off the ice, USA Hockey is saying, eh, you think you're in the club right now, you're not in the club right now. If this is strictly hockey, I think he can he gets an invite to this camp like he can go sit there and hang out with the

guys like this wasn't this wasn't an on ice everybody keeps saying camp it was an off ice camp yeah it's an orientation nobody skated at any of this stuff like we've been talking all summer like these guys had practices together they just went there and shook hands and say what said what's up to each other and did media like Lane Hudson if I think this strictly is just those numbers and everything is done yeah he's probably there but there's clearly something with usa hockey and i'm not condoning it i think it's kind of weird that all of this stuff is actually involved in sports when it should just be strictly performance but we know the reality of life and workplaces usa hockey is sending a message to this individual and clearly to

the rest of the people around him that hey you're not gonna be here this time next time yeah you'll earn your way here but this time sit this one out and so their response is well maybe we'll play for canada next time it's spicy so that's a shot across the bow both ways the game like he's doing the wrong thing with how they want you to play the game it's spicy as hell the way you play the game is lane hudson goes on a mic the first time he's asked about it by eric engels or or uh mark antoine or whoever or our pen basu and he says you know what i'm disappointed but i'm gonna work really hard for the next four years and i'm gonna get on that team next time or i'm gonna go to world championships you're gonna work hard that's how you handle that's how you play and that's how

you get there next time but they went i'm gonna play for canada i'm gonna go up there and play for the other now they can claim they were joking jesse like oh yeah oh yeah they could claim that oh i'm just kidding we were just joking when we didn't invite you you should have come anyway and i want to i want to say one quick thing we're going to use alex flastic as an example it's not a great example it's not fair to alex flastic he's played on a just atrocious franchise the entire time he's been in the nhl but 179 games he has 49 points lane hudson had more points last season but there is a difference uh alex flastic is 24 and he's six foot six there it is uh yep luke hughes uh 6'2 21 same age uh bigger defenseman more useful that's why there's a more there's a

better case that he has a future with usa hockey more immediately than lane hudson who's undersized who they have enough of those guys. And they have puck movers. Quinn Hughes. They have it. The league's best puck mover. It made sense. Just take your comeuppance,

work harder next time, and don't have your family going on podcasts complaining. It's not how it works. Now, Hayden flicked the mic in front of his face, and I just want to know if the Minnesota Wild fan

has any insight on Bill Guaven. No, no insight on Bill Guaven. That'd make me laugh, though. The only thing I was going to say is, like, to Jesse's point about the politics thing, isn't that kind of the reason McDonough's there?

Like, I know he's been a great defenseman forever but has he not captained team usa before i think i think they like him from a culture perspective he's been there a long time yeah but like he he's not making this team no but that's like that's why he got it's what jc said it's the he played the politics for years and years and then he gets the invite ryan mcdonough is exactly the guy you want at the we're all going to sit around and shake hands event like that's that's who team usa wants there and if they have a limit on the guys they wanted like mcdonough performance wise probably doesn't earn that spot over lane hudson but everything that goes involved with the let's

go have breakfast together crew is mcdonough gets that invite and this isn't like an opinion on whether this is how it should be done but this is how it is done yes yes this is how they do it you can't play the game you'd like it to be played the way you'd like it to be played you have to play the game the way the way it is you got to play by the rules yeah like they the the rules are in the board game you can't just go make up your own thing that's not true jesse i have a five-year-old at home he's an enormous cheater cheater pumpkin eater it's so funny when kids like that age cheat because they think like you don't know yeah like oh they've never thought of this no yeah they think you're just so dumb yeah oh yeah oh yeah i'm so smart for coming up with

this rule oh yeah yeah freaking you can't catch him fibbing he's such a cheater yeah like oh i've you're right i've never lied yeah no i don't know what lying is yeah i'm just your dad so so you know again not a not a a quote that is like electric in its delivery but very very interesting yeah i wouldn't call him rob hudson uh stephen a smith i wouldn't call grant mckay steven a smith either uh i i think that the interviews listen it's two guys having a conversation and they're both sort of low-ab guys um but i i thought that part stood out and bared and and i think rob hudson with three other guys three other kids making their way through the systems there's no guarantee they're all going to make it but one of them's

at oilers camp one of them is very definitely a hab and they're probably like how long before we start hearing extension talks there right why cole hudson's a capitals draft pick did you mention him no i didn't mention him he's his second rounder 2024 48 points in 39 games at boston university as a defenseman that's insane for the ncw that's big numbers you know real good player man i hate the capitals man they're so good at drafting i hate them anyway so cole hudson finished second at boston university in scoring to quinn hudson oh incredible yeah yep this in a hockey way reminded me of lavar ball what about that just like the dad like going on the dad who's raising his children to be professional athletes and like the whole 49 minutes is incredibly

insightful and how this guy is running things uh in his in his hockey life because you hear about how much dedication he has to the rink and and all this stuff he does in the off season and and the training how they keep it like a small group of guys and they all train together and it does remind me of how laval lavar ball raised his three sons and eventually uh some fellow the one fellow the nba and that sort of stuff but like he raised them from like the day they were born to be nba players you know and that's all they did and he was successful in that yeah a couple of them and same with rob hudson where he's he's grown such a hockey family and he played himself and it just reminds me of and then now he's out in the media doing this stuff

talking about his kids and how where they need to go and all that stuff it just reminds me it gives me the same vibe well let me i want to in their mentality of like raising children i thought his mentality you you later on in the interview and it's like way later on uh they mentioned quinn hudson because they were talking about quinn hughes and quinn hudson's this it gets a little confusing but quinn hudson is in oilers camp he's 23 he's played two games for the oilers but he was the one that had 50 points in 38 games. He is a forward. At Boston University.

Excuse me, he's a forward. Yes, yes. My bad, my bad. So Quinn Hudson is going to Oilers camp. And Lane Hudson plays for the Montreal Canadiens. And Grant McKaig said, listen, Oilers made the finals last year. Canadians are a team on the come up.

Let's say, hypothetically, both teams meet in the final. Who are you cheering for? And do you know what his father said? Yes. He said, the winner. Man. And I was like, oh, shit, there, that is an insight into how that person thinks.

And that is why I started this segment with a new personality has emerged. Rob Hudson is one to watch. You know what? I bet Quinn Hughes, Quinn Hughes, damn it. I bet Lane Hudson contract extension talks with the Montreal Canadiens. They're going to be like, you know what? We've worked our whole lives. We're going to give you a discount, though.

we're gonna give you a nice cheap contract because that's just the way we're wired well okay so noah dobson's at nine and a half lane hudson just came in yeah that's if you start there i hang up the phone and call grant lane hudson just put in i facetime grant i call grant and i tell him about your bullshit offer and he goes i said the same thing to cockney emmy when he asked me. Except the RFA offer sheet to Carolina. Nothing could go wrong. I am curious about what that eventual extension looks like.

Because listen, if the Habs want to sign him to eight years, you got to do it now. You can't wait until July 1st. You have nine days. Oh, you have nine days? Isn't it as of September 15th, you can't sign an eight-year-old? The CBA term limit thing kicks in. So that kicks in now.

Yeah, like a week. So I don't know if you can sign up to noon on September 15th or exactly how it works, but whether it's on September 15th or before. Or 1159 or whatever, yeah. You have a week and a couple days. So he's looking at potentially an $80 million contract in the next week or so.

He doesn't want to sign for that long. Yeah, I mean, maybe not. What's the term line after that is? Six? Seven and six. Everything just drops a year. Okay. Yeah.

pretty soon it'll be one and then it'll go to non-guaranteed contracts and work like the nfl and guys just get scratched on random days i don't want to go here yet but i'm curious what did the pa get in this fucking uh dress code they got the dress code and bonus pool money and they can now advertise wines and spirits oh is that part of it too yeah yeah dude they got nothing no they got deals yo i think they got their ass handed they did they 100 did they got they got taken to the cleaners i i are people like are players aware of this it's it's bad when you look at it you're like you guys got kicked i'm i'm blown away anyway let's not go down that road i don't think a single one of us should care until they do yep you're right yeah that's like

why are we here fussing about what the players got taken away if the players voted on this and agreed to the cpa yeah not my money man do whatever you want darren they said thumbs up sign the deal the one thing i'll say darren ferris um on the 100 hockey podcast last week with john shannon said i'm gonna keep my opinions to myself on that and then you could see he was like dying to say what he really thought and then sort of said well i'm not the biggest fan and all the best dpn there darren you want to show and uh and i i'll tell you uh there are rumors already that front offices don't like it either like they didn't have a they don't have a vote on that no they don't it's owner owners versus players right so gms don't matter in this negotiation

yeah anyway uh so that i thought that was really interesting so here's the thing we haven't done yet in the start of our young season 13 we have not had a press conference so i would like to take the time now to do a little quick press conference we did on uh tuesday oh we had a press conference no music playing shut up the steve dangle press conference we had a press conference on tuesday and it was taken up by steve dangle wanting to answer one question in particular and then we spent all the time doing that yeah so yes oh the australia one yeah yeah that was that was our press and then what was wednesday oh it was my dead dog yeah we talked about my dog now you've heard us talk about the progressive life center before

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You can sponsor a hole for as little as $500. If you want to do so, ProgressiveLifeCenter.ca or info at ProgressiveLifeCenter.ca. All right. and how relieved you are this is from gianni you're a son of a bitch gianni writes if you could redo one trade slash signing in leafs history which one changes their fate the most rask raycroft yeah it's got to be rask raycroft there are other candidates but like

you traded a not good goalie for a hockey hall of fame goalie in a one for one deal i think it would be interesting to undo the phil kessel deal never have that done and have all those picks that's probably segan uh hamilton basically yeah although there's no guarantee what they pick yeah the leafs in that era were so fucking dumb that they probably would have whiffed on but brian burke jumped the gun he thought the team was ready for this and they were phil kessel away from being a stanley cup contender and they weren't and what if he doesn't do that deal takes his time with the rebuild and does a rebuild like properly and if they're better along i think the problem was the teachers pension fund wouldn't allow them to do it and by the way

sorry i'm wrong brian burke's uh brian burke's uh era in toronto had some huge warts yes oh yeah but i don't think they were as dumb as the administration that was after him so i i was unfairly pigeonholing him into that i think brian made a lot of mistakes i think he did a lot of good they didn't make the playoffs so it ultimately was a failure but the the the era after that that was the dumb year when he started to get things back on the rails they fired him yeah yeah yeah but adam i think you nailed it in that the ownership pressure on burke was too much like they that was the thing about that era of toronto maple leaf sake in the mid in early 2000s and all through that thing they never wanted to be bad and it wasn't until they got tim lywicky in there and

they got brennan shanahan in there eventually that they were like okay we're gonna actually suck yeah and try and do a real but the 10 years 20 years before that after like the sundin era the 10 years i guess before that they were like we can't be bad we have to try and do everything not to be bad and just made them this middling awful team yeah and then we entered into an era where they're like we're good we're not good enough ah let's see if it works again history doesn't repeat itself but it does rhyme there you go how many times are they gonna try and see if it works again oh man hey you know what i'd love to i'd love to talk to our 2018 selves it wasn't till 2018 that we started to go hmm hmm and then 2021 was when

we really went hmm yeah anyway hmm thankfully that's over that's over now oh yeah is it we had a uh we had a that era question so i'll ask it this is from the couch gm underscore mr right uh how do you think the arena crowd will react to marner's thank you video oh it says mariner no a typo that many lee fans will no longer make due to autocorrect october rune how do you think the arena crowd will react to marner's thank you video in his first game back in Toronto? Or do you think the Leafs will skip it altogether knowing how loud the fan base feels? It's going

to be mostly... No, they're going to do it. Yeah. And it's going to be mostly cheers because this is the most expensive game of the year and you won't be there. Yeah, there will be boos, but I don't think it'll be that bad. You son of a... What?

Hayden, you're going? My dad, when we... The whole stuff came up earlier in the week and I was staying at my dad's. He just goes, We have to go to this game. And I was like, when is it? And he told me. And I was like, he goes, get it off work.

I don't care if you're streaming with Adam that night. You are streaming with me that night. No, make him work. He goes, Drew can do it. I don't care. You're going to the game with me. And I said, Dad, are you going to boo Marner? He goes, we'll see when we get there.

And that means yes. That means yes. By the way, I think you should do that game. I'll do the Saturday that week. Because it's a Friday-Saturday. There is no Saturday that week. It's Thursday-Friday. Oh, okay.

Then I'll do the Thursday. You do the Friday. You've got to do the Marner game. Yeah, the Leafs play Friday, Sunday. Okay. Oh, no. Vegas is Thursday, Friday. Leafs are Friday, Sunday.

Okay, you're doing Vegas. Yeah, that's Steve's game anyways. Oh, is it? Oh, yeah. It's the Saturday. At some point, we should maybe sit down and talk about this. Well, we just did. There you go.

You son of a gun. So your dad, is he going to go in a suit? No. No? Okay. I'm just saying there's going to be a lot of suits, and they're allergic to booing. yeah hayden's dad's not hayden's dad's got a personality he's gonna he's gonna be a little

double bird actually i'm not worried i'm not worried about hayden's dad that's a fan okay excellent all right follow-up question how do we make hayden work that buy his 1500 ticket oh my god yeah oh my god do you know how much the pair cost here's what I'll say my dad's been a season ticket holder since the Leafs moved from Maple Leafs Garden to the ACC now Scotiabank but he splits it with like

five people I don't know how it worked for this game I do know that he texted his group chat with these guys and was like whatever it is I'm going I know they split it up usually this guy will get these games because he likes that team my dad always gets the Minnesota game

obviously um but like he went in like a battle axe for this game specifically so he got i don't know how much it is though good for him unbelievable and for him i can't wait to send this clip to drew yeah um my girlfriend's dad he had season tickets at maple leaf gardens for the longest time and he was saying back then his season tickets per game in the upper bowl uh those the lower bowl they were going for nine dollars a game and the upper bowl ones were going for two dollars a game yo and then did he take a horse to the game right he wore his fedora and smoked a cigar so back that those two dollars with all his doctor friends yeah and they had the upper bowl seats

and then eventually uh during the harold ballard years they were so sick of the leafs that two of i think it was three of them who had it and two of the guys were like screw this we don't want our tickets anymore and then one of the guys like okay i'm gonna keep it i'm gonna i'm gonna have these tickets and he still has them wow good for him he has them at scotia bank that's so cool that's so freaking cool yeah but yeah could you imagine a lot of generational families i went with a friend of mine years ago and we sat at the top level of the upper bowl sorry that that sorry the lowest level of the upper bowl and he said my grandfather's got the my grandfather got these in like the 40s and he said when the acc was built which is now scotia bank arena they brought us in

and said which seats do you want to everybody and they picked those because they had the best view i thought it was cool i wish uh i wish my girlfriend's dad was the one in the group yeah decide to keep the tickets but you know beggars can't be choosers um this question uh was is for adam on our discord from video maker 557 they wrote question for adam in the years you worked in halifax did you ever get screeched in no uh you get screeched in newfoundland oh yeah i've been screeched in in halifax in newfoundland yeah nice yeah i've never been they don't do that in halifax too uh i don't believe so no no they just kind of drink i think that's a new thing very different right like listen the atlantic provinces hate this uh and

newfoundland is not a part of the maritimes so don't call it that oh new fees will tell you oh they don't like that either we are not oh okay newfoundlanders newfoundlanders will not they are not a part of the maritimes they're their own thing and so it's very different cultures everywhere you go but in halifax no did not get screeched in did have many many many dollar and half shots because dollar shots were uh outlawed or outlawed at that time dollar and a half shot yeah or two dollar shots it's hilarious anyway this one is from steve what was your experience getting screeched in do you like it i don't remember a ton of it jesse oh a little drunk that's funny for anybody actually i do have a story about it do you want to explain what it

is for anybody who doesn't so getting screeched in is um so they have this drink called screech it's i'm pretty sure it's just like an extra strong rum um i used to know like the lore about it i don't anymore it's a really strong rum i brought some home and actually now that i now that i think about it there was a night i brought the screech to my friend's house and we for years referred to oh was that the screech night ah because most of us forgot a lot of the details that's fair that particular evening but i went to the oh yeah sorry so you drink the screech you have to say like some sort of oath and to become an honorary newfoundlander and you gotta kiss a cod they bring in this cod fish um yeah and you gotta kiss it you gotta kiss

it right on the mouth tongue uh it's i think they'd be weirded out but it doesn't explicitly state in the rules you can't french kiss the cod on the mouth as long as it doesn't say no yeah it's an option to french kiss it right yeah yeah i i think uh i think i would love one date because the regiments are now a new team in newfoundland love to get out there and we can all get screeched in you can remember it this time that would be incredible but but here wait So I walk into the place and it was very obvious. So like you got to Google, like, where can I get screeched in? Cause not, you can't just be like,

screech me in at like any bar that you walk into. So we went to this one and it was very obvious that we showed up for that purpose and an entire women's hockey team who happened to be there for a tournament. This was August, 2010. I don't remember why this person was there. it might have been because we were there for the uh team canada world junior camp but i don't remember this guy being involved with that team at all mike keenan whoa walks into the bar

very clearly confused and looking for a friend he had very clearly very obviously walked into the wrong bar but the women's hockey team who had been there for a while and was extremely drunk one of them in this booming voice just goes iron mike and they all rush over and grab him and he had to spend at least 15 minutes taking pictures with everybody before walking out of the bar that he didn't even want to be in to go and find his friend did he say i hated wayne gretzky he said No, just Nick Kiprios. Oh, okay. Hated him.

It's weird when you're a few drinks in and you're like, is that Mike Keenan? And it was. Yep. Yep. Iron Mike! That's pretty cool. That's very cool.

All right. Any other questions? Do we want to take a trip down memory lane to one of our favorite bits of the show called NHL Car Watch? Yep. Oh, it's back! Back in May. ivan demidov let's go where does he play a audi rs6 oh that's a very nice car he he did this back

in may but there was new photos that surfaced of him with his car so it was on habs reddit i think like yesterday shout out habs reddit we once did a thing for them for their award show on reddit habs on reddit because there's oh i guess is that the same okay i think And the Habs are Reddit, isn't it? Oh, I'm an idiot. We're getting too caught up there. I don't know. Anyway, they're great.

Rhabs. Shout out Rhabs. Same thing. You guys are the best. And there was this article actually on Habs Fanatics, which is a whole other website. And they broke down Ivan Demidov's Audi RS purchase. So Demidov needed... I'm going to read directly from the article written by Elias Edmondson.

If Demidov needed Lane Hudson to drive him around the city when he first arrived, well that's no longer the case he now has his very own car demidov now owns a brand new audi rs6 and yes we've got the pictures so you can see it there there's the pictures by the way i'm signing the deal i love that they're tweeting out and and helping us with this bit thank you guys please continue this yeah multiple angles thank you it says wow a brand new car for ivan it might seem trivial but this is definitely a big deal for him and it gives him the freedom to get around the city however he likes alongside his stunning girlfriend check out the pictures and post so this is the post from location paramount i guess is the yeah

location paramount leasing oh uh they are the ones who sold in the car uh hey if you want to bring that off i'll play the video for you guys i'll pull that up have you noticed that almost all these pictures we find are the day after it rains is it rainy there have you noticed i don't know it's just something about the concrete so this is this is where we have to come to the point of nhl car watch how many tires are you given the ivan demidoff location paramount video hayden you can bring it up there here's the video of him signing jerseys for the entire staff at good location paramount and there he is getting into his wagon blacked out in the front like Audi RS6.

Isn't that a great-looking car? That's a great-looking car. Oh, yeah. Hey, this is a well-done video. Yeah. And look at that, 10,000 likes on it. Oh, yeah. So there's...

See, this is the thing. Car dealerships do need to do this. This is good for you. Because they got the collab post, too. Because they collabed with Demidov and his Instagram, and he accepted the collab. Oh, that's sick. Yep.

So that's how you get those 10,000 likes. this is i think this is up there this for me is is five tires out of five i i give it five times it's it's set the new standard jesse i am gonna give this four plus what one what five tires out of five hey hey with that would it get invited to um uh instagram camp instagram olympic camp oh that post yeah it would make it it'd be alex vlasic's car posts and neil peon's car post would not be invited things i think location paramount did really well in their post they showed demidoff doing good for the location he it started off with we're going to show you in a perfect light you're going to sit here sign some jerseys for everyone we're

going to show everybody that this is a man of the people he did not have to do this for us he's just here to purchase a car right we're gonna include that and then they go to the the car and we got up close looks at the car we got the inside and the outside and then we got stitching on the seats it driving away yeah we got the full experience with demidov at location paramount five out of five and i know a million percent one of those autographed jerseys is now hanging on the wall yeah absolutely in a shadow box which i i gotta say as a sports memorabilia collecting maximalist i love you can bring it back up there they didn't include his um his uh uh license plate did they no uh no no also i love that in quebec i think you don't have to have a license plate on the

front of your car because guess what that's stupid and no one should do that anymore but we do that in ontario and it makes you put holes in your bumper when you don't need to you don't need nobody needs a friggin license plate on the front of a car by the way so stupid you know how many people are about to find out for the first time the the you know the dealership that you got the car from yeah the little thing that goes around your license plate yeah like the frame yeah yeah it's illegal to have that you got to take it yeah so that is uh like a fuck you ticket there are a number of things where if they don't like you they can be like you know what and your windows are tinted and your license plate's not on right and you got

a stupid haircut and like they'll just ticket you for everything i go to a location to purchase a vehicle to drive it around and you are sending me home with an illegal item on my vehicle you're not sending me home with a road ready no vehicle no you are telling me to drive off of the lot in an a legal car yeah yep why so many people just found the stuff for the first time take take the tape i didn't know go home and take it off your your car right now you'll get a ticket hayden didn't know i didn't know yeah there's four people in this room none of us know i've seen the the ticket it's a ticket they can just hand out to you if they don't want to yeah if they want you know they should take it as the dealer yes why are you ticketing the driver why are dealerships allowed

to do this they're not well it's also like so in ontario you're not allowed to tint the front windows and yet every other car i see on the road has tinted front windows because they want the cops if they pull you over they want to be able to see in the car back windows are fine but i'm always like man hey uh so instead of going after the singular drivers that have the you could just go to the tint shops and go guys if we find out you did this it's a fine and then you just eliminate the problem instead they're like nope let's pick on the little guy yeah no look at outrageous every if you're in ontario look at every single car on the road that has a little thing around its license plate that says dangles dealership scarborough go look at the ones that don't

have it you'll be like oh that's legal that is illegal to have on your car well and the reason they don't ticket you for like you're never going to get pulled over for just that exactly ever it's the stupid attack everyone has it but yeah if if you show a little attitude well yeah uh your ticket just went up yeah no we we know a guy who got a really bad speeding ticket in high school and the cop was like you know what and you have tinted and uh and this is expired and and there's all sorts of ways they can just he started doing the tack-ons yeah yeah yeah and uh the cop goes cop goes uh so is this your first ticket and and and the kid the kid thinks he's about to get out of it and he goes he goes yeah it is

and the cop goes well made it a good one oh my god wow holy shit damn yeah that dude's an asshole how fast was he going fast he deserved this yeah okay never then he taught him a lesson that's good yeah wow yeah yeah no i guess i'm on the cop side that doesn't that doesn't sound shouldn't have done it all right well just a reminder that Drew and Stu are doing their live stream Sunday night at 8 o'clock on the SDPN YouTube channel so if you want to watch some football

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