The Steve Dangle Podcast - Not a League | July 22, 2024

Episode Date: July 22, 2024

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, OEL and nicknames (00:00), is Necas staying with the Canes? (13:30), Daniel Sprong gets under a million (18:00), Brad Elliott Schlossman talks about MLH. Read his full article here: https://www.grandforksherald.com/sports/und-hockey/max-chambers-is-the-man-behind-major-league-hockey-he-has-a-history-of-not-delivering (26:00), new ECHL teams (57:30), GMs with aura (1:13:00), and grocery checkout lines (1:19:00). Join SDP VIP: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0a0z05HiddEn7k6OGnDprg/join Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/thestevedanglepodcast Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sdpvip/subscribe Visit this episode's sponsors: Helix is offering up to 30% off all mattress orders AND two free pillows for our listeners! Go to https://helixsleep.com/sdp. This is their best offer yet and it won’t last long! With Helix, better sleep starts now. If you want to take ownership of your health, it starts with AG1. Try AG1 and get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D3K2 AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase at https://drinkag1.com/sdp. Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Join us on Discord: https://discord.com/invite/MtTmw9rrz7 For general inquiries email: [e-mail] Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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dive on major league hockey so in order to balance that out um steve uh who was graceful enough to fly in on his helicopter this morning uh i wanted to say this oliver eckman larson larson did a an interview uh with a local coyotes uh media company uh i think it's it's the phoenix group oh a phoenix sports it's four letters yeah go phoenix i know uh phnx phoenix without the yeah anyway there's a few they they have a whole bunch of obviously they have a whole bunch of outlets that network but um oel has a son named leo oh because oel backwards is leo wow and i thought that was pretty cool i didn't even think of that isn't that and i thought man that's really really nice so oel new baby leo oel backwards did he mention what john tavaris's new number is going

to be no he didn't know because he's got a obviously tavaris has to give him 91 of course of course um that's how this works uh uh that is uh yeah so it's um uh his middle name is phoenix so it's leo phoenix eckman larson and i think that's a pretty strong name he named him after the city yeah because he loves the city and then and there you know what's great about this is he did kind of go in to talk about how how great the city is and being reunited with shane doan and brad trill living so i i highly recommend you check it out but um i just was like man there's a lot of leo strong phoenix rising from the ashes wrong and if you're gonna have a hyphenated back last name which is a pain in the ass i have friends that have hyphenated last names they're

like i could have just gone with one one would have been fine my wife has a hyphenated first name exactly well last name though because you got to write it on everything first names you can just so you know what i mean so is his name leo phoenix ekman larson yes oh okay yeah it's a it's a lot you know you can't choose one i think he's leo larson ekman or larson is it yeah is it ekman larson always i think it's ekman larson always some players have done that yeah yeah that's what i'm asking um matthias yanmark if you go find him uh his draft page on hockey db uh it's oh man i forget what the second name is magnus pay rv was a top 10 pick in the nhl he was magnus pay rv svenson and then he dropped it matt zuccarello mark nyland yeah yeah uh there's an old a super

old video i think it's from like my first season there was a european free agent and can the leaf sign him and his name was matt zuccarello awesome and it's just matt zuccarello wow so some people the Leafs didn't get a me they you know whatever happened to that guy he did well I already did he end up in Ottawa no are you thinking of Fabian no no I'm not Fabian because they got him too briefly with the Marley yeah anyway I

thought that was really cool something you should definitely check out Oliver Ekman Larson seems like a delightful guy and we cool to have him as a part of the Toronto Maple Leafs next year I have an important question I bet it I think only jesse can answer oh okay once oliver ekman larson announces his number with the leafs or the leafs however it works okay is it tacky to get a jersey of his with his number but the nameplate says oel

uh that'd be a little weird would it be i don't know i think it's kind of neat because like they have ekman larson jerseys why are you changing the man's name to be difficult and let everyone know that you're special and interesting um i think i think that's okay like it's not if we're doing cut or uncut i think it's uncut okay that's okay because that's a nickname yeah so like what if you had a poppy 34 jersey i nicknames on jerseys i think it's fun the mlb used to do nicknamed it did you guys know this what they used to have a day where you could wear the nickname on the back of your jersey oh yeah i remember that do you remember that i think a lot of them are inappropriate right it's kind of difficult don't you think well no no like you like you actually

can't print them because like you know what baseball player nick no no if you're if you make names with your buddies usually it's like you're oh yeah well they're not gonna use those yeah they didn't use those yeah do they have a poppy one do they have like a david uh david Ortiz one big I would I would assume if this was like if it was when he was playing I would assume would Derek Jeter have something obnoxious like captain yeah probably no yeah

boo also if I was the Yankees fan I'd own three of them I nickname on the back of the jersey I don't think is I think that's fine I'm gonna go a step further the Leafs should sell them they should sell Ekman Larson jerseys and OEL jerseys give fans the option you know I think this is like when the MLB did

I think it's a creative way to get the fans involved you know if you want to get one of those like i don't mind it at all so poppy jerseys so willie styles jerseys you know how many leaf fans would buy willie styles i've seen i've seen that before yeah but they had to get a custom style jersey yeah yeah i feel like wouldn't you just i feel like you would need his permission you might not even i feel like the nhl's too stuffy to yeah like from william neilander no no no like the leafs to sell it in their team no i i don't think i don't know i don't know how it works man you wouldn't need permission i do think though it would be kind of funny because the nhl is kind of like some players some hockey players are like

no i'm not here to have fun so it'd be funny from each team to have like all the guys with nicknames and then there'd be several guys like i can imagine a guy like ron hainsey being like no i'm still hainsey on the back like you know you know matt matthews comes out mitch comes out neil andrew comes out they've all got their own nicknames and ron hainsey's like no i would get an i'm still hainsey jersey oh i like that i'm still hainsey number two so back in 2019 on players weekend the mlb did you get the nickname on the back of your jersey and they've compiled a list of the best nicknames that were on jerseys all right here's some of the good ones for for the blue jays let's start at the top alertus guriel jr had pina power jr on the back

of the jersey and in hashtag form the orioles paul fry had poppy papa frida um we had emilio Pagan had Emilio. Emilio with four O's. Sam Travis had Dr. Chill. Excellent. You better be chill if you're Dr. Chill. Zach Britton had With a K. That's actually great.

That's funny. That's a great nickname because he's a pitcher. Someone on the Now Guardians had Dirtbag. Somebody on the Royals, Scott Barlow, had Scoots Magoots. somebody had forgetting sarah oh because his name is evan marvin marshall he might not be the biggest seagull fan on the white socks but he has to be at into the top five so he had forgetting sarah that's a good one oh man that movie was really i want the doof if i was a minnesota

twins fan i'd be getting the doof somebody on the angels had peach the peach emojis you can just do that tree or does it say peach tree emojis i don't know or was it the emojis themselves i hope it was the emojis because that's hilarious spelled out is kind of better actually uh any other good ones emoji we got jerry jerry jerry for the jerry oh that's funny okay see these are i feel like every league needs to do this for one weekend man eric tames had foam home phone home because he is eric tames and a tt so his nickname was phone home these are good man crash landing archie bradley uh i guess no i don't know the references there chicken strip that chubb senor don't like that one

and chuck nasty one there charlie blackman's twitter handle was always chuck nasty so he was on the rockies i think this is fun that is so important that's way better than i thought it was gonna be yeah it's so important to pay attention to more than one sport no because you see the fun that everyone else is having yeah that's come on it's dude licensed to print money if you're a rockies fan you go buy a chuck nasty jersey oh yeah that's i would love i don't eight of them yeah oh my god or a tulo yeah well back in the day yeah something generic like a tulo yeah yeah that's good too you have to have likable players though and likable teams well that would help and no like like i think like like i it would be wasted on this year's

blue jays not that the players aren't likable but the team is not alike it's not a fun team to watch it hasn't been for a couple years like they're just joy it's joyless shitty baseball and so if you were to do that this year it'd be like yeah all these guys are getting traded anyway steve yes go through every leaf and name all of their nicknames see i was trying to go through the league in my head and try to figure out what the top seller would be so i don't think the oilers would be brave enough to sell mcjesus jerseys oh yeah yeah that'd be good though why not good it's it's positive i don't think you put jesus on something like that yeah but you're saying he's so good he's like jesus yeah some people would be like actually no you may not

but like cooch for kucherov sid i like sid 87 or the kid and or that ov8 um poppy 34 and willie styles 88 would go catastrophically hard i would you would just put poppy what would what would john tavaris's nickname be just huh no hu huh yeah no we don't need to waste time with that second nature we know it's there apparently mcdavid's teammates call him davo real oh yeah or davo i guess davo davo that's incredibly so that's probably what would go on the back you know i couldn't i couldn't get over with the least is when mckay i've said he like he's like he missed soup or whatever and then he became soupy but jack campbell was right there i know and what do they call him campbell was also soupy was he yeah soup too soup yeah he was also soup

yeah they could call them soup and tube soup and and then they could have become the soup troop see natalie spooners got the best nickname oh my god spoons cutlery oh amazing amazing they could have gone with spoons yeah they go with spoons more often this would have been one of the best selling jerseys of all time imagine a boston bruins 33 big z jersey that's good one everyone would have bought that dude print money why are they allergic to money but i can't wait i can't wait like we would have to if they did it we'd have to go through the best ones like power rank the best ones but we'd also have to power rank the least creative oh the worst like we there could be especially in the nhl where they're all afraid to be and like show that they're any sort

of like you know i wouldn't want to step out of line uh like it would be it would be amazing it would be amazing okay i mean i want to cover it jesse brought it up now i'm like damn i'm all the way in or poo poo poo pool and they call her poo yeah i want a poo 29 jersey that poo it's because it's france you know i want that i want i'm now i'm just in my head i'm trying to think of a good what's david combs nickname nope callie yarn crow oh uh iron hook swiss army oh really iron hook 19 iron is that a thing yeah because that's what his name translates to in swedish oh no way there you go which like iron hook i mean like three swedish guys would buy it matthew nice oh nicey see the least that's me it'd be nice that'd be so bad i know it'd be

terrible they no they don't have a good roster of the night here's one here's a good one mo 44 that's good that's a good one i think so mitch like you're from mitch on the back how many of those so you could do zeus 16 have his dog i don't know i don't know but they don't call they don't call marner that mitch jishin it's oh it's a mouthful though i don't know i can fit it's not my favorite it's this idea has legs i'm telling you is the door off big z big z well no he's not big z anymore he plays in boston yeah big z no but remember he said in when he in this introductory press conference he doesn't want to be called that yeah so that's my that's my question zaddy what do you call him now medium medium z no just medium no just

everyone that's or zaddy yeah i don't know all right all right moving on hey um you know one of the questions we asked but we didn't really dive deep on last week is who will play for the Carolina Hurricanes other than Sean Walker? Oh, I'm sure someone. It looks like Marty Natchez will because the Hurricanes are likely to hold on to him after a whole bunch of trade rumors.

Eric Tolsky said this, it's a lot easier to make trades before July 1st when teams have flexibility to go pivot and sign other players to replace whatever they gave up. And then he said, you know, he compares that to after July 1st. He said, we're continuing to talk to teams uh we don't want to miss an opportunity to make the team better but teams have less flexibility

now and i think what he's not saying is everybody left and we gotta have some guys right because that's that's what happened all right here i want to play again okay you're a player you have a contract sure with my team i'm the gm ask me for a trade hey steve can i have a trade no all right that was a good action here i'm jake deborah here i'm a jake i'm jake deborah can i have another trade or can i have a trade now all right here let me method act okay sorry what were you saying jake he asked the he requested two times no no yeah but i want to i'd like a i'd like a trade now you couldn't trade me before now i'd like a trade no all right let's do another one

sorry it's uh we were tweeting a couple days ago or we were tweeting i was chronically online uh talking about nick robertson and just there's so many examples of players asking for a trade not getting it and it ended up being the best thing for their career and life yeah ilia mckay asked for a trade out of toronto duba said no stay here we like you he stayed here had the season of his life fleeced the vancouver canucks yeah yeah the the pen that they wrote that contract on should be in prison it's and he's since been traded to the blackhawks but he got generational wealth out of out of uh not getting traded jake debrusk same thing you know who got their wish philip zadina well committed money arson yeah i mean dude you gotta do stuff he asked for his deal

he got his deal and then couldn't live up to his deal and was gonna spend it in the age yeah but then lit his deal on fire yeah so you know uh this could be it could be the same with nature's it's a little different his demands weren't we talking about like nine mil or something for him uh i don't know that it's gonna be that but they i don't think he has that kind of leverage he he's still an rfa he's got arbitration this summer he had 24 goals and 53 points in 77 games maybe his agent will start there and then come down if they're going to negotiate i could because i could see an agent being like i'm going to be obnoxious but if we're talking about if we're talking about a long-term deal is that out of the question probably not i could see him

becoming a player that is that good is he currently no no what are you talking about yeah so i don't know seth jarvis also remains unsigned for the carolina which is a problem i mean all the players have all the players on carolina have all the leverage right but their leverage slips away the closer we get to the season i think one of the more egregious things both of you said recently was that you would do a mitch marner for marty nature's deal would you still do it i don't did i say that yeah like last week i like to do it i like that i like the fact that it would give the Leafs cap flexibility more like I love Marty Natchez I think he's a great player is he Mitch Marner absolutely not uh but I'm not looking for straight up value for that

I'm looking for them to with the cap space go do something else but the time to go do something else was July 1st uh so now you're you're in bed baby let's do this one more time let's run it back I I thought the player I talked about was uh Clayton Keller because the amount of Leaf fans telling me no he's garbage I'm like okay so you just haven't seen a Coyotes game for like five six years cj was sitting right here yeah yeah i think you guys were going back and forth and then he proposed like oh there's something like a marty natures deal and you guys both emphatically said yeah i do that for the cap space and natures yeah oh it was one for one yeah and you know what yeah i'll do it no i'm asking you so you can change your mind if you

want you bet i can't no you're still the man of integrity you still think that'd be a adequate a deal uh i mean like if they do that tomorrow well okay so here's the problem any marner deal where all the leafs get is cap space um right now would actually kind of stink because there's nobody to use that cap space on yes the moment daniel sprung just signed for under a million dollars because uh he has because he needs to fire his agent no leverage no he's also not very good he's pretty good he's pretty so outside of putting up uh like 45 points on the bottom two lines of a four group what does he do okay because he doesn't kill penalties he doesn't play defense he's literally just points he's your classic offensive guy who's a defense he's right

he's new ryan dezingle oh you know because what did ryan dezingle you know oh weak defensively oh he scored 20 for the Sens yeah because nobody played for the Sens that's not a terrible comparable you know when I saw that it ended up he got under a million dollars I was like yeah it kind of makes sense in that you can't

just be a specialized low scoring offensive player in this NHL like you're not very useful to many teams he's also not very big either yeah no that's that was the exact point I was making when you guys are shocked that he only got 900 grand so tweet about that i just want to say i didn't tweet about sprung because i didn't have an opinion

because it's july and i was outside i oh yeah oh yeah were you outside i was out yeah i would love to be able to sleep train outside but i can't no i wasn't talking about twitter i was talking about like 30 seconds ago oh when we were talking i don't know about your tweets literally when when we just said it i was he was on it this weekend jesse he was on it so you know what surprised me though so like i know sprung is like a decent player he's yeah he's decent and fun kind of fun i've seen his interviews i enjoyed the fun um i couldn't believe some of the mentions and dms i got from people going this dude stinks locker room uh yeah and i'd never heard any of that yeah i saw that too and i'm always amazed how um how a player's reputation as a

teenager as a literal high school student follows them forever i remember years ago when we were going to bat for josh hosang and uh just the amount of people who are like here's a story from the u17 team and i wanted to be like all right so that's not a great story it's also not a crime it's just sort of rude and it's from the u17 team yeah but and and they're bringing up stuff with sprung uh from like his time in the queue and part of me is like yeah okay that's bad but he's like a taxpayer now that's 28 29 i don't know uh mid to late 20s yeah like if i'm that age well if i'm now and somebody says oh you did this when you were 17 and like that doesn't really apply to my free agency right now maybe he's still a dick i don't know i don't know i

don't know uh i just wanted to look up his age there but um yeah i don't like i i understand there's some rumors about him in the locker room and all stuff but i don't know if it's from the nhl level at all it goes so far back he's 27 i i don't know i always wonder about the impression i left like when i was that age listen we're all stupid at that age is that fair yeah there should be should be some some stuff that you're allowed to grow from i visited a teacher once and it was like a eighth grade teacher and uh and you know i was like oh you know we're gonna there's gonna be some fun memories i liked this teacher i'm sure they liked me and had a great impression of me and they were like oh yeah no me and a few teachers were really worried about you really

and i go why they're like oh because of the kids you hung out with and i go what are you talking with well and it's funny though because i was like what what do you mean and then i took stock and i'm like oh this one did a bunch of drugs this guy went to prison this guy got busted for breaking into a car this guy oh okay fair enough okay this is pre-me then oh yeah any of these people yeah no no yeah you didn't mean any of them uh you met one of them okay i met one of them yeah yeah okay with all that being said i think for under a million dollars daniel sprung can be Useful for the Vancouver Canucks. Yeah, no, I want to talk about the eighth grade.

I actually think it's a really good signing by Patrick Elvey because that's the great value for a guy who's going to play 12 minutes a night. 100%. Probably less. And you can move him up to get winger points in the playoffs so you're not playing Nils Amon next to freaking Elias Pettersson. Exactly.

That's what they needed was depth. They needed some depth there, and they got it in somebody who can just score and do nothing else. i'll give you nilsamon leaf comparable it's like it's like when they put pontus holmberg with matthews for like a week yeah yeah you can't man and they didn't continue and people are like what's wrong with pedersen yeah like what's wrong with you he's playing with a replacement level player i don't understand um one two both wings would be that and it's crazy

and i think it's interesting that the conversation that i think we had i think it was last show about rick talkett and him squeezing blood from a stone or not necessarily blood from a stone but he can be the whisperer for difficult players uh get you motivated yeah if sprung's a difficult guy as soon as i saw him signed with the canucks i went damn it that makes a lot of sense yeah if you're worried about the locker room stuff that's not going to be a problem in vancouver i feel like that's a that's a solid place to play for a locker room get chemistry and if it is his next team will not be a National Hockey League one. Yeah, it's under a million dollars.

If they don't want to do this, they don't have to do it if they want to get rid of this contract and just move on from him. So I think it's a fantastic deal at that price, and that's probably what he's worth. They didn't overpay. They didn't underpay. That's what he's worth now. I am still wondering what the Anaheim Ducks plan to do to get to the floor. They're

still not. Are they still not? Are they not 8.8 million under the floor? I think they're still below. What's the plan? What are you up to? Huh? What are you doing? What are you silly geese doing? i just it's always it's mentioned like once annually there's like a carry price rumor where like his contract's gonna get moved but is that the move i don't know it's 66.28 million they're under that's how much currently they have what is the floor do you know uh off the top of my

head the floor is gotta be 70 salary cap floor and hl 61 so they are over they're all oh there you go oh they're fine enough forget all that they're good they're good they gotta hold on to john gibson yeah no more trade rumors they need them they need them you can't you can't even if you retained on him you can't do that no you can't john gibson forever uh oh my gosh wow okay all right now uh let's let's do a quick recap here on the major league hockey and why it matters to uh to us yes because we're about to bring on brad elliott schlossman who did a full uh deep dive on this last week but before we do a real journalist what's your connection to this so i did a video that i regret very much uh in may um where i talked about major league hockey

mlh it's this new league coming to north america um i got a lot of details on this league before anybody else did and i was very excited to share them and i thought i had dotted my eyes and crossed my t's i did obviously not because i got information the day after that video went up alerting me to some shady things that might be going on with that league so i deleted it i was very embarrassed it was a humiliating experience um but then in talking to some people brad being one of them i wanted to tell him what i knew and see what he knew about this league uh alleged league um and it wasn't just shady things about this league there were some problems with it that could potentially ruin the careers of other professional hockey players and maybe even some

amateur athletes and um so i wanted to help um tell people what was going on so let's bring him on that was that was a that was a good explanation let's bring him on let's talk to brad two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar raised matters on september 19th join thousands in toronto for the princess margaret cancer foundation walk challenge yourself friends and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research together we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer register today at pmcfwalk.ca steve how important is sleep very you know what you know i'm asking steve that because he doesn't get any and it's because it's coming back it's coming back

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Brad, thank you for coming on the show. And we just had Steve kind of do an explainer about why this story, you know, hits him particularly. Were you aware of this person behind Major League Hockey before Steve talked about Major League Hockey? Or is this something where you saw the video and you're like, man, what's that all about? No, I was aware about a month before. so someone who i am connected with basically sent me this 27 page brochure that i put within the article so you can check it out um and said you know this was passed along here's a scoop for you uh this is happening it's being funded by uh saudi arabia is where the money's coming from

this is kind of going to be uh live hockey and i start going through the brochure and right away i'm like holy cow this is this is uh quite a scoop and information and the one thing that like i kind of sat or jumped out to me that was confusing is there was a line in there that said there were arena deals in place in 16 markets pending or in place and so my question to the guy who sent it to me i was like how has this not gotten out yet because if you're getting arena deals in place you know you're talking to the general manager they're talking to the other managers they're talking to the booking director the ice people like there's so many people that are involved with booking a rank and we all know how hockey people talk right all the walls are

swiss cheese for sure and so like maybe there's a market where they can you know slide under the radar but there's no way you have 16 arena deals in place that was the first thing where i just kept asking him how did how did this not get out and then i went and saw the name at the end and it said three names max chambers aussie chambers and peter young and i started searching who is this max chambers guy and i could not find anything on the guy and i was just so baffled um and then i asked him like how like again like how did this not get out and his response was something well i assume some of the you know some of the big time guys saw this laughed at it and moved on i'm like okay um so i i googled around on it for a few days and eventually like i saw

a story in the globe and mail about max chambers um saying he was going to buy the blues and then i had the background of the florida teams where he said he had money there and i said okay this there's a pattern here and then i just honestly i cut i i'm in the it was still in like march or april maybe something like that and so i'm in the middle of covering a season i'm barely keeping my head above water i just kind of forgot about the whole thing and didn't hear about it uh and then i saw when steve's video came up um and for those who you know i know steve has beaten himself up about it for months now but like what i think what the thing people need to realize what what the video said is exactly what was being presented to agents coaches gms and players like the that is

the exact information that everybody was being told and so that part was absolutely real that they this is what people are being told and i frankly i don't think people realize how many people got wrapped up in it well there was behind this there was at least one player it was reported that in the final four of the nhl playoffs that was interested in potentially joining this league there are pro players from around and steve you heard from them right after you made this announcement that we're like hey maybe i'm in europe or something like that i want to come home well yeah this is what made me sick right like um it was one thing to be embarrassed um and get a story wrong uh be called an idiot by hundreds and hundreds of people while you're at

like a kid's birthday party trying to pretend everything's okay uh like an hour later but um what, what I was more upset about was all these players reached out and they asked to be put in contact with someone at the league. And, uh, I was like, yeah, okay, sure. Like, you know, I talked to my source. I was like, who should I, Hey, like, I don't work for the league, but who should I put them in touch with? And I did that. And as soon as I got information that, uh, this league wasn't above board. I reached out to each and every one of them. Um, and was like, Nope, buyer beware. This is bad. This is bad. And as I got more details, speaking to Brad a little bit, um, I tried to, uh, tried to get more information out of them and tried to give them

some more information because like this, this was the big problem. And not everyone is probably going to remember all the details of the story but each team had a salary cap of 30 million dollars a year yeah yeah that's what they started at right for like 15 players or something like that 14 15 players and they want ncaa guys they want guys from the minors they want this and that and that so in theory um and this was the worry players would get offered let's throw a number out there $400,000 to play a season in MLH while they have an offer somewhere in Europe let's say Sweden for a quarter million they turn down the quarter million in Sweden only to discover that the 400,000 that they signed for is not there it is pure fiction it doesn't exist and by the time

they figure that out and realize that they go back to the swedish team that made them an offer in the first place and that offer is no longer there and all of a sudden you've just lit a quarter million dollars on fire and these guys are not multi-millionaires like these are regular people but you know the some of the salaries like a quarter million be pretty rich for some of these leagues um it would be potentially like financial ruin for these guys um that a lot of people think this was just a silly goofy story that i got wrong but it was it was way way deeper and what i love about this is you you dive deep into this brad and you talk about the blues offer i have to admit i did a little digging uh months ago as well or whenever this came out and that same globe and

mail article about this guy being a it was interesting in that globe and mail article is that they were like we don't know where he got his money and so he offered 167 million dollars for the blues which by the way would be a steal in today's dollars this is 2011 though uh they the blues accepted an offer from tom stillman for 120 million because presumably they did a little background they didn't find anything but you actually had to really dig to find the real max chambers so i you know go ahead yeah i mean it's uh to like go back what steve said about you know the silly story got wrong but the the part that was the what you detailed was actually out there the only part it lacked was the wait a sec does

this guy have the money that was the the question about it every every other detail is what everyone was being told uh also like the other thing on social media that we need to make clear before this starts people who are saying you got money for that story in spain to me so so like that's the whole uh part of the story nobody's getting money from these guys not even the guys who are working for them are getting money so the fact that people came to the conclusion that you are this unicorn the one human on earth who is getting money from max chambers uh is unbelievable and the fact that people think the money and the reason i should also bring this up uh the reason that the saudi thing got connected is because once you did the video a bunch of people retweeted it and

said i'm hearing this is money from the saudis and a lot of these people were journalists and the reason that they said that is because i'm guessing they heard some rumblings of this and that is what the league was telling people that this is saudi money it got around to people the second your video comes out people say it's saudi money uh but of course as we've as i've dug deep there is no connection i could find at all to any sort of money source in max chambers not saudi not you know uh anything um he has referred to himself as an oil tycoon though when he was trying to buy the blues right he did and then he was like the president of star leaf capital and then he was the president of like sonoma equities in this equity firm and he says he you know there's all

sorts of different you know he has different stories for how he has how he's made his money all the time and then as you dig into the league uh you start hearing from other people who say well i was told the money's definitely not saudi this is where the money's coming from then someone else says well this is where i heard the money's coming from now you're like everyone's hearing different stories they're not even telling people the same story so some people were told the money is saudi some people were told it's definitely not saudi but anyways that's where the whole uh people connected is steve getting money from the saudis because everyone there's no evidence the saudis are connected to max chambers at all max chambers has not paid anyone at all so i i don't

know why people decided just uh it was a bit of a jump and social media can do that one of the things i thought was most fascinating about your article was that there's there's three people working on this and one of them is his son max chambers his son ozzy and you detailed ozzy's background in the game of hockey and how he was not named assistant general manager of a team but went around telling people he was assistant general manager of the team and just that whole background story to kind of give you a frame of how the chambers family operates and i thought it was a great insight into why everybody should be very skeptical of of everything they're doing over there yeah and i mean even from the top it's like if people are investing this type of money

into a league um why is max chambers a guy who we have no knowledge of what his business dealings have been in the past we have no knowledge of people don't just randomly give millions of to someone. And people really don't just give billions of dollars to someone. So those were some of the question marks. And then all of a sudden it's like, okay, so it's him and a 21 year old son. I think he's turned 22 now maybe, but either way, it's just people with that type of money make uh greg norm in the face of the league yeah not two people we've never heard of and let me ask you this did you find anything on what max chambers life is what he does for a living like do you know anything i i don't know much i have gotten a couple off the record things okay well

let's not let's not say stuff that you can't verify but obviously yeah so then that's why i'm not but let's just say yeah we don't want to do that sorry let's just say what the things i learned off the record um made me believe uh more strongly that he is not a billionaire let's just put it down so what is he what is he brad is he is this guy is he's a guy who's a good talker like good picking up the phone is that all this takes you know so here here's how this when i was trying able to connect a lot of dots so he's a guy who appears to live right now on british columbia in the victoria near victoria um so it's him aussie and then the third guy is a guy named peter young and people actually know peter young he's a well-known broadcasting figure in manitoba he's

done a ton of sports um if if you grew up in winnipeg in the 80s you probably know who peter young is um so peter was going to be the director of ops in the reboot of the wha in 2004 so he knows max chambers from when he was going to buy two florida minor league teams and move them into the rebooted wha which never ended up happening of course the sale doesn't go through the the question i wanted to get out of peter young was you knew back then he didn't have the money he said he did why why now why you know why jump on now have you seen any proof that he all of a sudden has this unbelievable amount of money and we're taught the other thing i think we don't process is how much 10 billion dollars is like for us like 10 million dollars is like something we

can't even process so the difference between 10 million and 10 billion is just two numbers we can't process but the difference is unbelievable like 10 million would make him the third richest man in canada outside the thompson family wow like so edward rogers is worth 11 like he'd be a billion off of edward yeah it's ridiculous he could buy a third of the nhl almost yeah like wow it's that that's so much money like more than terry pagula and you know it's uh it's so much money um and i forgot what i was where i was going with this well you were talking about a man you know you mentioned a little bit earlier how much 10 billion how much 10 billion is and people to just give that to somebody right they yeah and then so so he's so he but what happened is he

reconnected with peter young peter actually knows people and so peter was able to kind of proliferate this idea into the hockey world whereas max chambers very few people know max chambers and he would not be able to um peter connected with some agents he connected with um on the hockey side and some of those agents were able to proliferate the idea um he was able to connect what he he does this side business called liberty sports um i found that if you went to the code of the website there were these buried um ads for a few businesses and liberty sports and he also said that in an email but there there are like five people who are supposedly with liberty sports and i don't even know what liberty sports totally does because one is peter young one is like a

full-time architect in minneapolis st paul area um it one was like a minor league manager of some really low level baseball team out east and it was just but anyways they worked with this liberty sports and they're the people who like built the website and tried to start i i didn't get confirmed whether they built that brochure i would guess there's a good chance and those things started to like the website looks fairly good the brochure looks fairly good now all of a sudden you have people see those and think um there's something behind it but he never paid peter young he never paid liberty sports um which maybe says i don't know why an organization would agree to do all this work for free well i never heard of that before um and so you know then peter

connected with some agents and and you know one in particular a manitoba based guy uh ended up really contacting tons of people in his sphere and so now all of a sudden it's out there in the hockey world and people are hearing about it and they're trying to get in um you know because i think the other thing that proliferated this is people had live golf in their mind that's fresh in everyone's mind this happened everyone got this easy money now it's the hockey world's turn i'm gonna go play three on three for 20 minutes a night and make 700 000 like i don't want to blow this chance and even after you know steve came out the next day and said i have legitimate concerns and posted that and that did not slow down this thing at all seemingly no people kept

going to it people even after even after reaching out to people and being like okay that thing i got you excited about stop being excited about that immediately and they're like i don't know it sounds interesting i'm like i'm the one who told you about it and i'm telling you it's not it's the temptation that it the millions of dollars might be yes yeah yeah but i i'm i'm still confused here though why does max chambers and his son and this other guy peter what's in it for them what's the goal here i i that's what i would love to ask max chambers but when i called him a week and a half ago the second i identified myself he hung up the phone but you know i've had that question for all sorts of things why say you're going to buy two minor league teams in

florida when you don't have the money to why say you're going to buy the st louis blues why try to buy the victoria grizzlies of the bchl and that was another one i just found as i was researching this i found out that people in manitoba had known him i had not seen that covered anywhere that he tried to buy the Grizzlies. And I kind of found that out. Why? That's a question. Why keep doing this? Why keep saying you have money that you don't? And, you know, I tried to give him and people surrounding him an opportunity to, I said, hey, show me some sort of evidence that he has the money he does. Show me something that's real. Tell me an arena you guys have booked and signed up for i can call that arena and verify this tell me something and they had

not been able to tell me anything and the there they are telling people they have certain arenas booked i called every one of them and the response i got from nearly everyone was i don't know what major league hockey has never heard of it we've never been contacted about this i don't know who max chambers is i did hear from one arena in saskatchewan that said we did talk to them a while back we had one single conversation never heard from them again they are not playing at our arena they have not paid a deposit nothing so i you know a lot of the things it's hard to i can't sit there and like look at his bank statement and say this is how much money he's lying um But I can try to verify other things. And one of the things that I can verify is whether they booked an arena or not, whether they've booked any equipment deals or not. And everywhere I turned, nobody had ever even heard of this guy.

Wow. And it's interesting. The person who wrote me into it would use names to rope me into it even more. But there was one name that he used to rope me in that he was like, you cannot mention this person under any circumstances. And you and I were speaking, And we're pretty sure this is very high ranking, former NHL executive. And we're pretty sure, or at least have a theory that there might be legal proceedings because this person never was paid for their work. There's a very prominent, as I said in my story, there is one, if we're talking about the same guy, he was a former NHL GM and a guy people would know. I know there was contact between them. I don't know exactly what happened with the GM and Max Chambers,

but there was contact between him and the GM. I will not speak about it. And, um, like positively, negatively, nothing. It was,

I'm shutting this down right now. And it was, you know, we'll see where it goes. I don't know if there, if, if he is planning legal proceedings or not or what's going on but it was very like an ominous like um there's something happening uh i can't speak to you and that was that well if there's

a court case or if there's a legal proceeding it would probably come out publicly anyway so if that would it would and there's i i searched there's nothing right now so i searched to see if there was one i and you know maybe is i don't know if he's worried about the fact that maybe he signed an NDA this guy made a lot of people sign non-disclosure agreements um which was also very bizarre behavior I think I'd never heard of that before um you know Steve had heard of some of those ones I think yeah so any players who received information about MLH from MLH were forced to sign ndas with mlh and when players asked mlh hey should i get my player involved or my player sorry when players asked mlh should i get my agent involved what did they say

i i they they did not want that which again we don't talk to agents it's incredibly bizarre behavior because usually a league would want to get in with agents and want to, Hey, this is what we're doing. This is where our money's from. We're going to recruit players, help us get guys to come to the league. Right? Like that's a normal behavior of a league. And they don't want anything to do. You know, they don't want any, you know, whenever I called, people didn't want to talk to me. Most leagues want publicity and they want to get it out there, what they're doing. They want to tell people where they got their money from. so they can recruit people and um they just they didn't they don't want to talk to people

and uh every avenue i went down to prove that they had any sort of money was futile but like steve said a lot of the guys that they really roped in are guys who were like on ahl deals AHL, ECHL tweeners, and they might be making 60K a year. Now all of a sudden someone comes along and offers them $700,000 multi-year deal. Wow. $700,000 a year. And so these guys are saying, well, that's just so much money. This is life changing money for me. And you can go to that person and say, hey, there's a lot of red flags here. You should be very careful. You should whatever. And despite all that's been written and all the red flags in the back of their mind, they still say, well, what if it happens?

That's $700,000. Like I'm making 60, like this changes my life. So a lot of people have been holding out hope that they are going to get this money. And again, the leak has not proved that it has anything and the people who were associated with it had not done their homework on max chambers yeah man um and i think some of the people who are working on behalf of the league aren't necessarily bad people i think they just got roped into something that they they got big eyes too and thought they were gonna think they're gonna get money and they just uh did not want to dig into the reality of whether there actually was money there wow and you know uh uh this this story is going to be i i hope it's not one that fades away

until this name pops up again like it has the last couple of times uh last couple of times this guy has come in and tried to buy things it's kind of just faded into the and into the darkness here But, you know, hard to know where this story goes from here, but really appreciate you, Brad, doing all the research and the effort to go down a lot of pathways that led to nowhere to try to put this story together, because there's very few there, you know, to make a great story, you need to like wrap it up in a little bow. And that's not what this story is. The story leaves a lot of weird, uncomfortable questions. And maybe this will lead into people actually reading the article that haven't yet. Can you tell me, tell us about the opening quote from the article? Because I think it's possible that's how this ends. so so i i called the the guy who uh was going to sell the teams to max chambers in florida in 2004 he's going to sell two teams to him the guy's name is david warrenker and i called and you know identify i said hey um you know my name is brad schlossman i'm a reporter in grand forks north dakota i'm looking into a guy that you cross paths with many years ago his name is max

chambers and the first thing he said is he said is he in jail and i said well no he's he's creating this league supposedly and he kind of just went off and said hey um you know i think the important quote he said was uh make him show you the money and i'm talking real money, not hypothetical, real actual money. And that is something Max Chambers has never been able to do. And I wish some of the agents or some of the players getting involved when talking to them would really press them on these things and really say, you need to show me. So I feel that they just don't want to piss them off and they think well if i piss them off that might be the end of my seven hundred thousand dollars so i hope people go back to them who have been contacted

both agents and coaches and say explain yourself tell me you know show me something show me that you have some sort of money show me that you haven't been lying to me this whole time um because again like i said i i had not been able to find anything and the only things that i could prove they were lying about they're lying about these arenas they've signed part of what took the story so long to come out i would have a lot of it ready to go and then i get a call and say hey i've just heard they're playing in these three cities and i say okay well i'm going to put this on hold i am going to fact check this and make sure this isn't true you know i'm going to make sure you know because what happens if they have booked them well every time it came back um

that uh no they had not booked them and the other thing i'll say if you do hear some names of people who are involved with the league you also have to be careful because they're telling people certain names of guys who are involved and i would check in with that person and they would be like what there was a there was a you know a guy who was named head coach of a team and he was a former nhl player and he had never been spoken to right yeah uh and then there's a guy who was going to be a gm of a team and he goes i had one conversation with them months ago one and that was it i never agreed to do it like uh that was a guy who's currently in an nhl front office by the way wow um and he was like yeah i've i've i've never agreed to anything so they're so certain

people that they're throwing their names around it's not even real so it's so hard to tell what the truth is because there are just so many things that are untrue in in this whole thing so um yeah if if they're i'm curious if they're still trying to go with this thing or not i was explicitly told alex steen is going to be the head coach of the long beach team and he ended up becoming gm of the blues right which is a bit of an upgrade yeah yeah no kidding no kidding well listen hey uh brad listen you've what you've put together here again it's the grand forks herald you can see it at grand forks herald.com brad elliott schlossman is his name and the article is max chambers is the man behind major league hockey he has a history

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uh discord title i respect you i'm the only one in the panel who would know that but well done thank you yeah to explain adam okay oh it's a it's an iron maid song just what's the song uh But Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner. So this user has named themselves Rhyme of the Ancient Mariner. Yeah. Very good. I like that. That's good.

Very good. So they write, hey, guys, what are your thoughts on the two new ECHL teams? Bloomington Bison, which is the Rangers ECHL affiliate, and the Lake Tahoe Night Monsters, Vegas. They've shown the logos, which I will bring up. there are now three teams without eechl affiliates columbus carolina and utah so we can uh we can name them and place them somewhere after this but first let's get your thoughts on the night monsters and their jerseys there you go oh i like the beautiful jerseys those are colors it's so it's like san

jose and vegas anybody listening adam care to explain what we got uh well um it kind of like i said it looks a little like a mixture between san jose and vegas because you've got the teal but you also have some gold and some black and depending upon uh home away or gold alternative uh the the black and white primary jerseys look a lot like san jose the gold primary looks a lot like vegas so if you can imagine that with a little bit of teal a little bit of gold a little bit of white a little bit of black san jose but gold and the monster logo is a good monster logo oh it's fantastic great month like why do we not have a monster team in the nhl we need something that's a monster you know i like that they're night monsters too yeah no the day monsters are

kind of wimpy night monsters are actually like this part there so there's a monster eye in the middle of the crest on their black primary jersey that's absolutely fantastic yeah with the mountains in the background very this is really cool yep really not really well done well the echl always does jerseys well they do they do i will always miss the growler jersey that is a that's a great jersey they're the night monsters jersey yeah they're the night monsters because the day monsters are us okay okay uh hayden if you give me a second to pull up the bloomington bisons i will do that by the way solid name bisons or bison bison no s oh oh boy bloomington illinois right i think so yes and i looked this up recently you don't really remember i don't remember why

here's a question why did you look up bloomington steve because of the uh i was having a discussion with someone i think it was hayden about matt rempe and like he obviously like okay should he or shouldn't he fight he wants to but if one day he's like you know what coach i don't think i'm gonna fight anymore and it's like all right yeah that's fine you don't have to so anyway our echl team plays in bloomington illinois oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah okay fair enough what is that logo bloomington bison have unveiled their logo why is he wearing i am a 10 out of 10 on this logo best logo best logo ever so it's a for anybody listening it's a bloomington it's a bison holding a hockey stick with blue gloves a red jersey red eyeballs horns like the devil a top hat

and a top hat yeah because it's red dead redemption me talk oh okay well now i'm on board it's also got a map of illinois with a star to show you hey we know you've never heard of blooming canoe this is where we are on the flag here's where we are what the flag of illinois yeah because they have the star little thing on the on the flag there let me find you're telling me that's not where it is a state flag illinois uh no i'm upset state flag is a there is a star but it's not quite the same it's that's so there's that one right and then they have a new state flag and it looks like that oh so yeah it doesn't look like that no it doesn't it is actually so that's where bloomington it seems as though it might be a map i looked it up it's a hop skipping

oh no no look up flag of chicago oh okay that's what it is flag of chicago yeah but bloomington's not chicago boo now i'm upset like a chicago's right yeah uh that's the chicago yeah that's the that's kind of so it's the colors right bars two blue bars against a white background and in between there's four red stars you want to police lives matter it's kind of what you described you know you know how stupid i am i always just thought that was cm punk's logo uh did you no that's so stupid like right now that is incredible did you learn something like right now yeah i just learned that's amazing no i had no idea i don't know what the toronto flag looks like or do i maybe i do i don't know i don't like cities you don't

know that's the flag of toronto oh no i know that yeah you know that flag i also just thought like oh yeah it's the city hall logo so i think it's interesting that the bloomington bison have the flag of chicago colors with a star kind of there with this it's the same color right the uh the blue here hold on and the star is different though blooming what about the bloomington punks flag the bloomington cms the cms yeah even the city of bloomington flag does not look like that so that's just their own thing maybe it's just a coincidence maybe i maybe there's a complete it sounds like a quakey dinky yeah i mean it makes more sense than it being cm punks no that that is my favorite one leave it at that my favorite thing about sports uh logos in general

is when the mascot is on the crest and he's in the logo but he's also doing the sport yeah i love that i love when the the anthropomorphic animal is there playing the sport of that that they represent that's that's so cool so the fact that the bison is holding a hockey stick oh awesome it's incredible it's the top hat for me it's it's completely unnecessary but the top hat yeah listen if you're gonna play some hockey you better show up to the rink in style and if you really did you better go home if you it's like forgetting your skates oh yeah you need your top hat stupid do you think the leaf should ever move to a talking leaf that plays hockey yes scary leaf hockey yes that holds they should and that wears a top hat and it and the spikes

you know how the how the leaf logo is three like points at the top yeah so the top hat obviously covers the big point in the middle obviously but then the two other little points come out of the top hat like the bottom you can't just steal the bloomington yes you freaking guys that could never not suck a leaf it would be a little it could never not look like cheesy one day the leaf should go to an alternate logo where they have a leaf playing hockey so what if they're gonna do it then they have to make the mascot too and he's got to have a a fake gladiator duel with carlton at center ice during one of the intermission oh they can gladiator supremacy or do you just make them the classic kid mascot where all they do is this and they like sort of bounce a little

i was just gonna say you said a leaf why not just carlton no i said you could carlton no because with a top hat with a top hat of course no but carlton can't be the logo because you couldn't go with something that's not the actual because it doesn't make sense i want a carlton jersey yeah that's not what we're talking about no he wants to answer i want i want the name of the team to be the crest and the little animal or the leaf to be playing hockey didn't the Marley's really briefly have an alternate

jersey that had a dog like Duke the dog well yeah that's why Duke I'm not sure was Duke on the low now I'm trying to remember what's real life and what's video games I don't actually know the answer Duke's an awesome mascot Duke is a wicked man it's good love Duke

it doesn't appear as we met Duke right yeah we met Duke and Duke uh you tried to get duke to dab at the time duke's actually 86 yeah it's crazy uh you know what i i do see a james reimer game issued marley's jersey yeah oh i forgot about that it's rainbow it's it's not rainbow oh my bad my bad i'm sending it over here i sent you the google search you can play it is it is real steve wow it's real the duke jersey i'm so happy and it's from the era where they like had no stripe at the bottom of the jersey now did they mad was it like a warm-up

jersey or did they wear it in a game it says game issued that doesn't mean they wore it during the game though does it uh that is a good question um why would they wear that and warm up the dog alternative third jersey purchased this jersey three years ago oh my gosh look at this yeah i love that logo i forgot about that wow 2010 season what year is it 2010 season 2010 yeah oh my goodness they made reimer wear 31 i don't remember that but i believe you this look at that yeah baby dude minor league hockey is the best

and horrible they had a mcdonald's patch on it yeah yep reebok jerseys by the way those are reebok yeah with the god i forgot how terrible that leaf logo was i want so bad i want this this is amazing yeah

well how much is it uh a long time ago oh yeah it's a long time ago but you'd have to sign it at worth point to find it i don't even know what that is but anyway do you want to summarize the uh description there because there's a lot of info on the jersey yeah it's mostly about the guy's story to be honest but essentially the guy is a uh um he's a um so there was a the entire lineup was available he said this is not game worn jersey was issued for james however was never worn i believe he was still in reading with the royals so it's not letter of authentication

included um so it was game this duke these duke jerseys are quite popular and look great with the leafs logo on the shoulders no uh huge jersey goalie cut edge 1.0 reebok jersey material name numbers plates also non absolutely huge because it's made for a goalie um super nice jersey unfortunately i'm selling because i need the money uh yeah so that's that's okay so he didn't actually wear it in game issued not worn by okay but signed by that that particular one is signed and last follow-up to these echl teams columbus carolina and utah don't have teams they're the only three teams in the league without echl affiliates can you guys give me names for each of those teams columbus

who is it and i gotta give you a city sure if you want that's a little more difficult than you're just picking a random city in ohio oh yeah i'm gonna say dayton oh dayton okay the dayton now you have to do the dayton dinos damn the dayton dinos damn oh i like that i like that what did we say we got nine out of ten we got ohio taken care of what else we need nine out of ten uh so carolina and utah what's another city in carolina well you've got the charlotte checkers right but oh the columbia blue jackets no why not no seven no seven out of ten columbia north carolina is that in north carolina or south carolina i don't know south carolina i don't know the carolina columbia south carolina okay columbia south carolina columbia you know

what you could you could do a play on like university like wouldn't it be fun to do like the bookworms awful and then have like a awful like a little worm going out with the hockey the worms playing hockey yeah and he's studying up i'd do that that's that's columbia bookworm eight out of ten okay all right all right i'm getting eight out of ten what are you doing i was doing the columbia bees because it's got b in it like columbia i couldn't think of it four four out of ten is this four yeah i'll take my eight i'll take my that's a four out of ten steve columbia bees what are you doing oh wait the carolina water spouts because they're smaller than hurricanes that's not one isn't like a weather occurrence a water spout no a hurricane

yeah what is it why does it do a water spout it's a mini hurricane no it'd be like rain or shower or like light drizzle what do you talk two out of ten what are you talking about like doesn't that come out of the water like yeah like a faucet no like it's like a tour it's a small tornado on the water what about the columbia yes what is a water i thought you meant like a faucet like a like a just a hose no didn't you guys take elementary school science oh no i didn't Whoa! It's a whirling column of air and water mist. Oh! A nine and a half.

Yeah! That's creative. Okay. Absolutely. Even though it's kind of... Hey, we learned something. Yeah, nine and a half because it caught us also. Also kind of looks like the logo when you see a picture of it. It looks like the Hurricanes logo. And what city? What city do you want? That'd be Columbia. You got to talk about Mike. Columbia.

Yeah. And then Utah. Utah. Nine and a half out of ten. That's a good one. Name another city in Utah. I can't or another city in oh yeah hold on can i look up city names in utah yes so because salt lake is uh utah cities is that like your reader city park city ogden ogden ogden the ogden bobs the bob ogden let's go the ogden bobcats we got it we got it nailed it i'm in how can i hate that you got to come up with your own

cedar city is another one cedar city trees are they terrible no i think you would do lumberjacks wouldn't you cedar city i lumberjacks is a good hockey name yeah because then you got the thing but instead of an axe it's a hockey stick yeah he's holding the hockey straight yeah and i think you'd have a i think you'd have a muscle you would have a tattoo it'd be fun to skate flat once a year yes once a year you have the giant like i say it's like the charity game or whatever you're selling off the jerseys and the jerseys are plaid absolutely they're that's that's that's a go-to you know if lou lamorello's team shows up they have to show up in plaid suits there you go and be no fun yeah be no fun you know what's great they would just show up in

black suits yeah they probably would he'd be like yep no we don't like personality here shave your beard two and five canadians will hear the words you have cancer that's why every step and dollar-raised matters. On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation Walk. Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in support of life-saving research. Together, we can carry the fire and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcfwalk.ca. All right, this question comes from mateo cyt which gm has the most aura mateo how old are you that's the most aura um that's a good fucking question yeah it's a great question that's a great stop hating no no oh i gotta answer

a question no mateo's right the tail's right that's a legit question most aura bill zito no like aura as it like that guy's got there's a force of personality there do you not think Steve Eizerman is Steve Eizerman. Yeah. Which is, I think, pretty big aura. Joe Sackick? I think anybody who plays... How are we defining aura?

Define aura for me in this context. You know what aura is. Aura is itself. It's aura. I won't lie to you. Kent Hughes. I wish I didn't have to say Kent Hughes. Nah, because he says so little.

And he just... His team hasn't won for like three years, but all the fans love him. and pervasive quality or character air atmosphere or of respect responsibility or friendliness so aura is basically whatever you are like times 10 so like you're this kind of person but everybody knows that the second you walk into the how isn't rather than having to get to know you so the first second and third answer is lou lamorello it's lou lamorello is it lou yeah lou i don't know what we're beating who's who's two i mean where's kyle dubas in the 32g you know what kyle dubas does

have an aura it might be an aura that can be extremely inspiring and at the same time irritating uh i think both can be true kyle's got an aura but i think a lot of kyle's aura is the aura that is placed upon him by us in the media i don't know what kyle the guy is actually like jeff jackson somewhere up there yeah now yeah the more based on how it's gone for the last 10 months yeah he's up there so yeah um though i could say more coaches with aura gms are harder to read that's why it's more fun yeah um yeah i would say i'm still putting bill zito in there yeah no i think we got a good list julian breezewell's got a bit of ones does kyle davidson have aura no no he's just a dude no he's just a guy i like kyle davidson a lot by the way

He doesn't have aura. Him answering those questions in Nashville at the draft was still hilarious. Yeah, but that's not aura. No, that's not aura. That's just a dude. No. All right.

All right, moving on. New ranking. Which GM has the most riz? Shut up. If we're talking riz, Kyle Davidson might be on the top of the riz list. Kyle Davidson. Yeah, yeah.

Yo, I got to give... He's the young one. Can we talk Bill Armstrong a little bit? You think he's got riz? Bill Armstrong is like... He reminds me of a character from Fallout pre... pre the bad stuff happening like he's like a 50s a modern 50s guy yeah but he's like super tall he's got the coif hair and perfect teeth i feel like in an alternate reality he's like the poster

boy for like every shitty sigma tiktok you've ever seen yeah except he's a good guy yeah well apparently so i don't know does julian breezewell have riz shut up based on how the stamkos negotiations went i wouldn't say julian breezewell is going to raise you up i don't think i don't think he's gonna riz you out not riz dog no i think i think i think uh this is the oldest we've ever been stevie stevie why by the way funny guy he's got a guy yeah you know you guys remember that clip he hit that clip with i think paul bissonette and the tnt panel where they were a couple years ago where they were talking about something and like and everybody just started laughing i was like oh stevie's funny like and then he and then i got to interviewing with alan

and i'm like oh he's actually like a really funny guy so yeah i'm gonna i'm gonna say that i'm gonna add doug armstrong to the aura conversation are you yeah oh yeah doug armstrong got good aura yeah there is a present aura heft all right i'm also gonna give him rad brad your living was not mentioned in either conversation i think brad brad's a dude i think brad's a dude i actually think we'd all like brad personally yeah like i think he seems like a really risen aura i would love to get a beer with him and also uh we don't even have to talk leafs i actually think he seems like a fun guy yeah i think he would have things to say about things that aren't hockey yeah which a lot of hockey guys can't do brad's watched a tv show and consumed

popular culture and had an opinion on it after yeah yeah no no for sure he's a he's a funny guy i like him i like that brad chileving i'll give him this is one of the first gms in a long time i think since pat quinn to have a sense of humor about the toronto maple leaves like the like think of the line of general managers since which one of them has made a funny haha joke like brad brad's like he's self-deprecating and and i like that i like that now we'll see if the decisions work because that's what i like the most yeah i like him as a person patrick alvin negative riz positive negative negative i couldn't negative or i know how to i couldn't listen is it because someone doesn't mean he's dumb it doesn't mean he's bad it doesn't mean anything it just means like i

don't think is it because like rutherford's above him so like rutherford's got he's got aura too and i think it's like when you're a winner you gotta have right does that make alvin a gm cuck no because there's somebody ahead of him so like he's not he's because he's the gm but like the president's on top of him he's the he's the acolyte he's the he's the um he's the understudy he's he's getting there he's just you know he's buying his time he's waiting for jimmy r to finally retire which will happen in seven seven to ten decades so he's a follower for now beta he's not a beta is he a beta gm that's a that's a better one than cock yeah beta yeah yeah dude i walked in this room 36 and i'm gonna walk out 93 good lord we gotta ask the important question

this is what we do um this is from christopher how many extra items is acceptable to take through a checkout lane that specifically has a limited number advertised none you fucking monster so if if it's like nine items or less you're like if you have 10 items you're stupid you can't go through well no no okay i don't judge people i don't go you just did and be it well yeah privately but i'm not gonna go excuse me sir and be like uh narc about it karen yeah yeah i said narc um it's just not something i would do okay i have a you would be nine exactly because you're better than everybody correct i'm better than and also a girl dead okay that makes me i have a question about the even better than yeah can i can i just raise this does item denote category meaning

let's say i walk up to a cash register i've got three apples i've got nine lemons and i got two pairs that's three things is that three you are all on drugs because no because all of those go in like a bag they go in a bag that is different they're literally they're literally scanned as one item that's okay so that's three items right yes it's literally in a bag put on the way and you pay it for one item bag of 20 apples bag of 20 pairs bag of one item you didn't say bag though i'm picturing fuck over here going oh no no no no that's that's i just wondered i just wondered okay okay like a dozen eggs you can't be like there's there's 12 eggs excuse me there's no yeah that's why you that's kind of what you asked yeah so it's per barcode sure we're talking about

there it is okay or scan so if you had 12 items in a nine item lane are you upset are you doing that uh i'm not calling anyone else for it but i am not going in that lane you're not doing it no because um i don't know there's lots of stuff in life to feel bad about and i don't want someone making me feel bad about that oh you don't want somebody else possibly if somebody calls me i'm gonna be like you're right and i am kind of am a dick for this and like you know there's certain things where you're like ah do i want to be a dick for this reason i can be a dick sometimes like i'm sure i've cut people off on the road and stuff like that accidentally whatever you all right yeah excuse me sorry the camera wasn't on me i tried to hide it being a sneezy

boy that was just a little yeah yeah i i would say that jesse i don't want to be that guy i will wait in line just a little bit longer and i will be a little bit later what about you no i'm not i'm not busy like i go to the self checkout i'm pretty quick with the self checkout too like i feel like i'm what about the codes though when you do fresh fruit no they show the little pictures you know i mean you could or you can just type in the name like i'm good at that i want to know if adam is the lady on tiktok who's like i have kids so i'm not returning the shopping cart i don't oh that was a big controversy yeah i'm not returning the shopping cart she's not she's not nice you know yeah you're not a serious person yeah i've had listen just because you

had a kid doesn't mean that you don't have to follow the exact same rules that you know i've had kids for four years now and i've never been like you know what i'm just gonna free ball life i know there are no rules you ever jump on an airplane and have your kids spill popcorn everywhere and be like why do i have to clean this stuff is that that feels very real that's a blue jays pitcher that was bitching about that oh i forgot about yeah so i guess his wife was on a plane on her own and one of the kids just blew up popcorn everywhere and the flight attendants were like you're gonna have to clean that up and they're like why and that is like a whole thing uh this is like a two summers ago i'd be like mortified i'd be like oh my goodness i'm so

sorry yeah can you give me a bottle like whatever and they were like what's and then so he starts tweeting about it and then tweeting about the airline and it's like you know you could have spent that time tweeting, cleaning up the popcorn. Right. He didn't end up on... Weirdly enough, he got the let go from the team. It's just weird. And now the Jays are way better. They're so much better. Look at them.

Last place in the division. Gotta love it. What pitcher was this? I forget what his name is. He was a reliever, I think. Oh. And I don't think he... He wasn't, like, let go for that reason, but... Pat Hankin. Not Pat Hankin. I love Pat Hankin. SDP. The Steve Dangle Podcast. Follow

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