The Steve Dangle Podcast - OH NO | April 17, 2024

Episode Date: April 17, 2024

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No. Jesse, are you okay? Yeah, Steve, I, like, the whole, oh, Steve, okay. i thought your reaction was the reasonable one because you didn't like okay so when initially i heard like oh the lfr is crazy and all that stuff i watch every lfr but i watch it like the next day i'm not staying up till 1 a.m when drew's uploading to watch it everything so i heard like oh there's some scuttlebutt about the lfr and steve went off and all that stuff but your reaction in the lfr wasn't like tears that you're facing boston it was actually a very no it wasn't new

nuanced but a very loud opinion and i think the correct opinion that no matter who you face it's going to be difficult oh you wanted florida instead no florida's probably a better team than boston i'm that villain where where you know oh they're crazy and they're the bad guy and oh if you listen to what i'm really saying though damn he's spitting yeah like i didn't i didn't think you had like a meltdown i thought you had a very good analysis that yes the stanley cup playoffs every team is good well it was about two minutes into the video when i stopped laughing yeah after after the laugh i spit blood yeah but after that was two minutes of laughing and then it was like eight minutes of actually good hockey analysis so for the most i mean i don't think you

need the biggest hug today you seem okay first of all i always need a big hug everybody needs the big hug every day um second of all like okay i'm real mad about them playing boston i don't want them to but the other option was a team that outshot them 31 to 4 in a single period last night can we spoiler alert the least would have probably lost to florida can we spoil alert i there's a very good chance they lose to boston yeah because those are two good teams it was you want a good team or you want to play a good team it's like it's so annoying because like i really i really put the leafs up against just about anyone else in the east except their two most likely first round opponents which were the florida panthers and the boston bruins the the bruins have owned

them they own their hearts this year um and i know it's the regular season yada yada uh the florida panthers for the most part have owned the leafs um there was one game where the leafs won i believe i i'm pretty sure uh i'd have to look this up but the season series between the the leafs and bruins and the leafs and panthers combined the leafs are one in seven kill me please kill me immediately wow and the leafs are oh and seven in their last seven meetings with the bruins uh oh i believe that and you look at where they are in the league they're killers they're a really good team carolina i think would give them trouble that'd be a great series oh leafs rangers would be an unbelievable series leafs lightning rubber match would be an

unbelievable series but it's the fucking bruins or the fucking banthers and now we know it's the fucking bruins yeah fuck yeah and and i now there is there's a couple of conspiracy theories that'd be a fun series couple conspiracy theories floating around today capitals one involving John Tortorella, which we will get to. The other one is that the Boston Bruins, did they put in a lot of effort lately? No, they lost on purpose, 100%. You think so?

Absolutely. No, no NHL team is losing a game on purpose. I don't think so either, Jesse. I don't. That defeats the purpose of competition. Tim McAuliffe tweets, things that make you go, hmm. The Bruins had a season-low 16 shots on net

in a 2-0 loss to the Caps on Monday. That's the fewest shots in a game for them since 2013. Tuesday versus the Senators as season low three shots in the first period. Yeah, no. Yeah, but no, but yeah. No, let's ignore all the evidence of our eyes and ears for sure. What if another

team just beat them? Yeah. What if they were simply beat the lead? The Capitals who made the playoffs with the worst goal differential in NHL history for a team that made the playoffs. Now I am gonna although I agree with you, Jesse, I'm gonna push you on this one because you can see how

people would say no i can't see how you jump to the conclusion that an nhl team is throwing two straight games if that's what you're implying that's i think that's a real leap uh a lot oh yeah yeah yeah i think i think this that's a real stretch do you think that they can continue throwing them into the first round because i would maybe maybe they're just not that great now do you think maybe they're beatable you must well listen every team can lose i yeah we watch ruins on paper ruins my day i don't give a shit it's the steve dangle podcast yeah damn right we all do that yeah of course um sorry continue steve i made my point oh okay well i was just gonna say listen the tampa bay lightning at their you can argue their critical

height like the the best that they were lost to the columbus blue jackets for it was a four nothing yes oh yeah they didn't win a game they didn't win a single game three nothing after one and died just died now just died not likely that that happens in this series but i do think it is hilarious and i you're not doing the follow-up what's the follow-up to the lightning oh they won the cup no last year's bruins the greatest regular season team of all time lost in the first round of the florida panthers yep what was it twice in four years or twice in five years a team set the record for wins won the president's trophy lost in the first round everybody's beatable it's hockey it's so random yep yep yep and i look at this and i think

i'm zen i'm very zen right now i wish everyone would stop being so full of shit i'm zen i am embrace your fear let the hate flow through you i'll tell you why i'm zen yeah why are you zen this is the actual inflection point for this franchise this is where um they fired their gma that yeah but that was that they didn't fire their gm because of um uh performance they fired their gm because of a corporate power play right and and like if they had fired their gm due to performance they wouldn't have offered them the extension that they offered him right so that that's part of it yeah um dubas got fired because he wanted shanahan's job yeah he's like how do i how do i boot shanahan out of the corporate structure oh that didn't work man how did this

50 million deal 50 million dollar deal just flow show up on my desk that's so crazy 49 40 that's so crazy man it's not almost like he had it in his back pocket the whole time anyway almost like almost like um but he would never he would never he would never make no you know because we don't believe in conspiracy theories right most guys make a high five a corporate power play so you missed it with no backup plan you know yeah most guys make a corporate power play with no backup plan just like dubas dubas is a super no backup plan he was free balling it absolutely absolutely long story short what i'm trying to tell you is this is the most consequential set of games that the austin matthews era toronto maple leafs will play until the last

hearse no no no no no don't don't water it down it is no no it is this is this is the most consequential series and this is the most important moment in this era and the last time these two teams played in the playoffs um these guys were boys now it's time to find out whether they're men or not and and i think you know you look at you look at the last time they played the guys were like you know 22 23 years old they're now in their mid to late 20s they all have big contracts which some of them did back then too and it's time for them to decide whether or not they want to continue to play here. And I don't mean Austin. This is, and I've said this for months, this is it. And if they can't get through this Bruins team, it really doesn't

matter that, oh, well, the salary cap screwed us or, oh, well, COVID or, oh, well, none of that matters anymore. Now it is about Austin Matthews and these guys, William Nylander, Mitch Marner, John Tavares, everybody else. It's about all of them doing this one last time to see if they can actually stick it out and make this work and if they don't i'm very confident there will be massive changes to this offseason and so for me looking at this i'm going i actually do believe in this group i think they're a good group i think that they do stupid stupid stuff like the second period yesterday they did they do confounding things however i would marty biron talked about one goal that joseph wool should have had i'm like i think you're burying the lead there marty yeah yeah

31 to 4 i don't think it was the kid i think that they reset the shots by the way what it came out to 29 oh whatever the nhl went back and recount oh that's not ever my point in all this is saying that guys you're about to witness whether or you could witness the end of an era or you could witnessed the capstone an incredible moment of this era good and i think that is something as a leaf fan to get excited about the least guys the least we're always going to have to go through boston always going to have to go through boston it was always going to have to happen and they weren't able to to use your words or you know earlier in our careers slay the dragon earlier in the careers but brad marchand is now 35 years old um and has only ever won a cup as a role

player patrice bergeron wow true actually true cray cheese gone patrice bergeron is no longer there um it doesn't mean that charlie coyle and and pavel zaka who are fantastic players are we've been talking raving about these guys but my point is now now is the time now the tables are a little bit more even you've got a little bit more maturity on your side you have run one around you've done it and i'm going to be looking for a few things we need austin matthews to be dominant we need willie and morgan riley to be their typical playoff dominant as well where is willie gone well and this is the thing willie has been of the three of those guys the most consistent playoff performer if you go back and you'll look through leaf's history since those three guys got

here willie is the guy that always shows up and always performs at at least a point of game and last night i was talking to someone there they showed the game score labushkin was last riley was second last and they're like i don't know about this labushkin thing riley's right there i don't care who he plays with at some point it'd be nice to get a good result and he put those up in the playoffs last year he did he's a monster and we now know if he does not have a good playoff they're dead and the last thing i'm looking for is mitch martyr to really come in and show what he can do in a tough series like a physically tough series because mitch marner really plays well in the perimeters like he really does perimeter hockey well uh the problem

is that the boston ruins are really good at defending that yeah 100 but they're they're they're good at defending that and he's gonna have to drive the net with the puck he's gonna have to shoot he's gonna have to not overthink things there is a a huge this isn't me putting the pressure on mitch marner i think he knows if if he scores what if he scores they win if he if he's putting up points they're winning and this is me putting the pressure on mitch marner okay this is okay so the the 800 pound gorilla that you feel on your back um every time you get on the ice for a stanley cup playoff game it's not actually an 800 pound gorilla it's the back of jersey the name marner no the number 16 every time you pick up your jersey you look at the front

that's your childhood that's your childhood right there this is what you have always wanted you turn it around it's your friggin name above the amount of games you need to win to achieve the thing that you want to achieve best you've done is five i don't want to put pressure on mitch marner not not to not to be uh don draper about this that's what the money is for star money star expectations if he is regular season mitch marner in games five six and seven if he's 100 point guy if he's 30 goal best playmaker they have guy why shouldn't they win oh they'll win the series if of course they'll win the damn series that's what i'm saying is that like that's what we need pressure's on pressure's on like

do you need great hockey players or elite athletes i think the answer is elite athlete elite athletes have to be better at they're better at something different and that something different is these moments these situations if you're an incredible hockey player except for when it matters then you're not an incredible hockey player we need this this city needs it your legacy needs it you need it your teammates need it these guys that you fought with bled with cried with forever need you and that goes for willie and austin morgan goes for austin i mean it's not like Austin's been consistently awesome in the playoffs. No,

I mean, he's been better recently, especially in Montreal was really bad. Yeah, man. Yeah, man. And I think they were able to ISO him because Tavares went down early and

then you stapled Phil to no tool. Yeah. But you can't win. Tavares still makes 11 mil last time I checked all those guys. It all, listen, the depth is better than it has been in previous years. it all comes back to if the stars don't do it they're dead one thing if they do it

the real good chance they win one thing with mitch marner last night uh i shocked that it's reached this point but max domey wasn't in the lineup and he's been an incredible x factor for them with that line with bertuzzi domey matthews and mitch marner seems to be a lot more comfortable recently with the Tavares line. So I wonder, come game one against Boston, if Mitch just performs better because he's not in this role with Matthews anymore. I hate those two together a whole big bunch.

Why? You said that at the beginning of the video, and I was lying in bed watching it this morning because that's what I was watching. I took my daughter to school. I'm like, you know what? I'm going to take a lie down. So I watched the video,

and you said you don't want them together. Nope. And I've been pro-Max Domi all year despite all the people tweeting me stats saying he's bad at hockey. I'm like, well, Matthews sure got a lot of goals. You were early on that. You really were.

Well, and I'm by a lot of people's standards. He's still not a good hockey player. I don't see what they see. I love Max Domi. I think he's spectacular. I think you're losing the plot against the anonymous haters. It's not about putting all the best. Let us digress.

We have an hour and a half. It's not about putting all the best players together. It's about putting the best lines together. They found it, I thought. So what is it about, and obviously Domi wasn't there, but what is it about Marner and Matthews together now, which has worked so well in the past, including a 60-goal season and a good chunk of the goals this year?

Why? When the mob wants to get you, they track your A to B. They find out where your morning starts and where you're going. And when the Bruins wake up, the Bruins mafia wakes up, Marner's A, Matthews' B. Marner has the puck, and it's his job to get the puck from A to B. And it's the easiest thing to shut down for teams that are worth watching. A lot of teams can't do it.

A lot of teams can't do it. There were shifts last night against the Panthers where the Florida Panthers didn't let Matthew Stick touch the ice. It's just he's too big to body off the puck. he's too strong but his job is to get into open areas get into spaces and they're just lifting them all day long they're all over them like a weighted blanket um and they're leaving mitch to the perimeter the whole time he's on the perimeter he's skating he's skating he's skating and we're happy that the leafs have joel edmondson all these guys have joel edmondson too they they all have

some sociopath who's willing to put uh just shards carbon through carbon fiber yeah through your back vertebrae and matthews is just getting the shit beat out of him in front and over a seven game series that's going to take forever what we saw over the last month or so with bertuzzi matthews Domi altogether man they would just pull a rabbit out of a hat um and it it didn't always have to go through one guy they're they're chaos the other thing I want to throw out there is Max Domi is not going to lie down for anybody no and there's a toughness neither is Tyler Bertuzzi so there's a toughness to that line when that's who Matthews needs to play with when Domi's on it yeah that's who matthews needs to play with that's um you know i don't really know if their styles

mesh i mean they're elite players they mean marner matthews yeah they're elite players they will always pull off magic together over the long run but during these you know battles of friggin attrition um you need a chaos a chaotic battering ram of a first line um and when there's enough chaos and enough distraction matthews will kill you he will eat you alive he's the best goal scorer in the sport what about what no no stop saying all these lesser thans he's the greatest goal scorer in hockey he needs distraction right he needs room he needs room um tavaris is a capable goal scorer, capable board battler. Marner's a really dynamic player, dynamic skater, and you can put them with either one of Nise or McMahon and they'll be fine. That'll be a great line.

Third line, Holmberg has upped his game, knows how to be a dick. Great job. And then beyond that, you're just figuring it out. You're just, you know, placing role players at that point. um you know oh sorry kneelander yep i should have thrown in there i was i was like wait who am i missing role player sorry outside yeah kneelander with holmberg and then it's like take your pick right you have the fourth line that plays like a fourth line cool good i'm not worried about the fourth line i don't think that's going to be the uh the the come to jesus savior oh thank goodness for the fourth line you need a capable fourth line to get through four rounds of the playoffs but that's that's not exactly what carries you there all right um

you know so then you just need someone who is a positive contributor uh whether it's mcmahon yarn croak i think mcmahon should have that spot on the second line i'm with you with jt if he's healthy and can see that's the thing once we reach saturday if he's able to play i think he deserves that spot over nize just by based on how they've both played in this calendar year i agree with you and nize is more um his game better suits a bottom six role at this point in his career yeah yeah and he'll probably be at like a first or second line player but not yet yeah and the conditioning thing you always bring up with nize like maybe in limited minutes where he could just run around and then lose all of his breath and then go back to the bench is probably the best

situation for him as opposed to like the second line where he has to play some serious minutes so i hope mcmahon is like fingers crossed he's healthy for saturday even if he's not a hundred percent i think like 90 mcmahon is still still dynamic for that second line he's a huge factor it's um and it's going to be one of those things where i think um the the leafs are going to have to like if you look at the bruins david pasternak has scored almost 50 more points than the next closest brewing dude i i can't 100 can't believe their roster to look at it 110 points for Pasternak next closest is Martian was 67

and then the next closest is Charlie Coyle 60 it has to be 67 has to be now they have good scoring spread throughout the lineup like I'd say that you know a bunch of guys in their 30s and 40s in terms of points is not a bad thing to have but David Pasternak especially against the Leafs is

a an absolute weapon and has been for time in memory like when he was a young player one these these penalties they keep taking a lot of hooks a lot of holds a lot of i got beat so i'm gonna grab you around the waist matthew nize i he's gotta stop doing it oh dude bertuzzi the amount of offensive zone penalties this guy takes brutal that uh that goaltender interference thing last oh and like i'm gonna

hop behind the goal what are we doing what are we doing like that was awful awful stuff by tyler yeah if you're if you're getting a piece of a guy in a scrum or whatever yeah no fill your boots i don't care um there were uh two scrums where the panthers came out of it with a power play and i'm like all right yeah sure it's a it's a league i guess um but uh the like just the hooks the holds the trips the goalie interference in the offensive zone like those are unforced errors yes 100 and these are the types of things that in the playoffs go down but you can bet on the leafs and the Bruins each game getting two to three penalties each and what concerns me is David Pasternak his 12 power play goals and the Leafs anemic terrible penalty kill is brutal and so they so it's it's

if you're gonna take a penalty it better be worth it because the types of penalties that they are taking even though they are regular season penalties and we all know it changes in the playoffs you if you're sitting in the box for something stupid in the offensive zone like what Bertuzzi did last it was just a brain fart like I'm just shocked that he did it um or what Domi did the previous game where it was a hooking right before overtime and against Detroit yeah or tripping whatever what you know what I mean like stick around place it shouldn't be um that's the kind of shit that's going to kill them against the Bruins that is the thing of of all the things and I told you I'm very zen if I'm worried about anything if anything keeps me up at night

it's that stuff because the bruins will kill you for that they're known for that win or lose the series yep it'll win or lose the series and there's gonna be a shitload of calls in the first two three games and then it'll that way yeah and then it'll even out like it'll slow down by game five six seven the intensity of hockey ramps up the infractions ramp up the rate at which those infractions are called drops dramatically there's just uh i don't know how you would ever ever prove that i don't know how you would ever get a number for that what you would need is a stat website willing to track it and qualified officials willing to offer their expertise to the cause you'd have to be like that's a call that's a call that's a call that's a call you'd have to do

you'd have to have the regular season evidence to compare to the playoffs um but like we all know we have like it's a feel you get it's a feel you get you just watch every you just watch lots of attempted murder and they're already settling into it you know nikita kucherov just allowed to like shorten guys careers it's fine it's fine well and and so that when we talk about this line and when we talk about this this this matchup that part freaks me out the other part is um i've loved how elia samson off has played second half of this year i don't i don't know as a leaf fan how you can't i'm concerned about joseph wall when he's come back since he's come back he's been mad and it's so bad um and it's not because he's a bad guy everybody i know we're

all fans here uh it's because he is his performance hasn't been up to par i don't know how you don't have martin jones as your backup um come game one before this season how many games did joseph start in his career oh god i think yeah maybe 10 or 12 and then like most of them were in the playoffs last year 11 regular season game wow yeah so i think we if we're like disappointing joseph wall's play so far it's he's not an nhl product yet this is his first first full season as an nhl tandem starter but we've seen him play better games and he was incredible before he got in about like uh 20 game sample size yeah well less less i think no and if you add the post season two and the beginning of this year and those set in those 11 games it's like

20 game sample size we're like oh my god joseph wall established starter no it's 20 games it's gonna be a long journey for this kid to really establish himself as an nhl goaltender right now he's struggling and who do you think that's fine who do you trust coming in cold though martin jones or joseph wall good lord i think uh elia samson off well that's what i mean though is if elia has a bad game or he gets injured who do you trust coming in cold i think i think it's elia samson off and what once from there then you're panicking because those options aren't great oh man i gotta say martin jones's numbers this year pretty good yeah but when was the last when was his last game right even that's a good question i think three weeks ago yeah right now

right now you you start joseph wall like there's not i don't think it's a debate that he's your backup goalie he's been starting all these games like he's he's the goal he's gonna go in there too late now and yeah fingers fingers crossed nothing happens to elia but yeah well like i mean if we're all right if we're panicking based on like recency like all right wall starts game one then and uh oh no you don't start no no that's what i'm saying because samson i've had like a tough last couple games yeah um this is your bed and i think by the time you get to jones it's probably too late okay right um looking at the save percentages and they so martin jones played 21 joseph wool played 25 um joseph wool and martin jones have essentially the same save

percentage 907 and 908 and the goals against average is a 270 and a 294 294 for for joe wool Joseph Wohl is 12-11. Martin Jones is 11-7. The team does not play great in front of Joseph Wohl. I don't think they trust him. Kind of like how they played in front of Ilya when he was battling. So what's the game plan there? Allow 30 shots a period?

Right. That's a good question. I just don't know how that's on. Yeah. How is that Wohl's fault? Well, he should have had that save, the 20th shot of the period. Come on. one out of the five because he got frigging shelled yeah when it was 34 shots before they

stat corrected to 29 it was the second most shots ever they allowed in a period in the history of the franchise that's been around for 100 plus years that's your last full lineup game before the playoffs yeah that's terrifying yeah it was awful and like i i don't want to blame joseph wall for that situation yeah but I don't think he's been great like at all and and so you know we have to look at this like you have to look at it like the way the Bruins do you've got an obvious upgrade uh for both goalies Swayman and Olmark uh the only reason they didn't really I think that they didn't beat the Panthers is they didn't move off Olmark fast enough when he got injured last year yeah who's their like game one starter is it Swayman well yeah and

they tried to trade omar so i don't know yeah i don't know man it's gonna be a i mean it's not like like sometimes when a team moves off of their starter you know it's a mistake and you're like oh good now we can feast on the other guy too but the bruins you chase swayman and it's like oh fuck yeah but i think i think you gotta have it yeah but the the panthers made it work panthers did it panthers did it panthers squeak in and they and they do it and they have a great goaltender themselves i think the one thing i'll say about this this team this least team is they have not felt like they get shaken as easily this year yeah i mean they allowed two goals in 10 seconds last night but i i know what you mean three and three minutes yeah that that to me is

brain fart that that to me isn't shaken right that's not focused no it's not like like we're here they were before it was fear yes you can tell the wheels are falling off and they're terrified and not only are they dying in this game they're never coming back um you just don't feel that with this group i i really do like this group i hate that they're playing boston jesse do you hate that they're playing boston uh no i think the way we kick this off well when i was talking about your lfr when we kick this off it's every team is good like who like you want the hurricanes you want the rangers yeah like you want the lightning you want to go to the west you want to play dallas like i don't know like every team is good if you're in the playoffs like i uh tough

teams all around i do appreciate um you know a lot of actors come from la obviously in new york and i'm i'm thinking more of them should come out of the massachusetts area why is that why the amount of bruins fans who are like oh i don't know about this series shut up oh you must be so traumatized from six consecutive wins dating back to before your dad was born leafs have not beat the bruins in the playoff since 59 you know how long ago 1959 was the leaves have won four cups since then shut up do you want justin fisher our social media manager do you want his 1959 trivia yes all right so

uh it's i guess it's not trivia we can just do 1959 fun facts uh montreal beats toronto four games to one to win the stanley cup final oh no who what what famous uh dictator established power in 1959 yeah we can do a little trivia on that be uh fidel castro good one you seemed about right wow is it that or the guy from egypt no you got it that's it no yeah i'm guessing you're good okay all right what popular toy was introduced in america barbie that's correct hey let's go you guys are two for two on 1950 wow 59 was a big year you knew the leafs didn't even win the cup that year no they lost 4-1 to montreal i just learned two states were introduced to the united states oh boy so hawaii you got one hawaii yeah and

like is it a state or a territory because if it's puerto rico i'm gonna be really upset no no puerto rico is not an actual state okay yeah i'm gonna say so yeah at the beginning of 1959 there weren't 50 states that's right america okay i'm gonna go with the simpsons here because abe simpson had a 49 flag or 49 star american flag because he refused to acknowledge missouri it can't be missouri i don't know so we got one i'll say new mexico you said your first one was uh oh because hawaii new in the name yeah oh i'm gonna say new york okay so i don't know incorrect uh hawaii and alaska oh really the continental united states was established and then they brought in alaska and hawaii and i thought they had alaska before that but i guess

it wasn't a state it wasn't a state yeah in 1959 uh alaska and hawaii became the 49th and 50th uh u.s states because the brits were like hey canada get fucked we're gonna give it to these guys for no good reason um i don't think you'll ever get this what took photos of earth from orbit can you do you know the name of the machine that was in space that took took pictures of sputnik no not sputnik no uh the polaroid droid i don't know explorer six oh i would never know that justin wrote explorer six takes the first photos of earth from orbit cool there's something that but then lastly um this was invented it is a machine that replicates things xerox photocopier probably by xerox yeah the photocopier was invented and released in 1959 wow there you go

1959 Trivia. Hey, I love 1959 Trivia. So weirdly specific. And Steve, what Leafs fact is... Why are we bringing this up? The Leafs have not beaten the Bruins in a playoff series in six attempts since 1959.

Jesse, when could women vote in Canada? 1920s. What about the States? No, no. First World War. First World War for both. Do you want to know Canada or America? I don't...

which one do you want it both 1916 i'm gonna guess for canada uh women's right to vote in canada looks like it's around 1916 yeah so the so the leafs i mean that's pretty like recent then oh 1918 1918 that's just quick google around then yeah i'm trying to think of 1914 maybe ish somewhere yeah my family had been in canada for i think four years yeah interesting dude yeah there was a whole debate by the way when that happened is it went to the canadian courts about are women considered persons to look that one up fun times anyway the uh the thing is um you know this is going to be a series that makes or breaks this this era and i'm ready i'm ready i'm ready for this i'm ready for this i'm so excited for this let's bring why not face the boogeyman right

now why not i feel like i've said that every other time they've played them but you're right adam and julian mckenzie was saying steve no what lfr needs to be is embrace the fear yeah i am not gonna lie to people and sugarcoat and be like i'm not scared i'm quite scared but i'm gonna embrace the skirt and try to face my boogeyman face my fears now i'd like to quote dune too yeah fear is the little death that brings total obliteration i will face my fear i will permit it to pass over me and through me and when it has gone past i will turn the inner eye to see its path i thought the quote was uh don't fuck the bucket no it was i thought i also thought we were going there for a second that would have been much better also don't do that is uh it's doing good i haven't seen it

dune two is dune one is good dune two is spectacular i felt like a kid again how long because it's like two and a half hours right oh it's like three did you watch the whole thing in one sitting yes i i actually purposely didn't drink any fluids for like four hours before it because i was like i'm sitting down this whole way did you get the bucket i didn't get the bucket the bucket was sold out i was gonna bring it in no the bucket's not available in canada what oh that's why i couldn't get it yeah okay i thought it was sold out yeah i know that's both that apparently uh deadpool is gonna make one uh but it's gonna be the brian reynolds the hole in the bucket apparently is going to be in the bottom which is amazing uh anyway sure it really is

win or go kaboom way way way more than it was last year when dubas got kicked to the curb and had dubas stayed it would have gone kaboom in june last year yeah like at the end of the day um the guy who made the decision to fire dubas is still there the president has been the same guy for 11 years if they lose this it's going to be explosive yep yep um that doesn't mean they'll be bad just means a bit of a change of plan hockey's greatest duos at tim hortons we warned you about this we told you it was coming introducing hockey's greatest duos trading cards each card features two players including nhl legends retired stars and women superstars all interconnected in special ways steve you picked these up i did on the way in ajax um and you can

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let's talk about john tortorella pulling his goalie against the detroit red wings in overtime when pittsburgh's entire season was on the line no well it wasn't overtime it was no oh it wasn't overtime it was pre-overtime it was tied 1-1 in the third period that's why it's important right so go ahead take it what take what take it talk to me about it oh the did it happen Did Tortorella purposely sink the Penguin season? Did Philadelphia say, you can't have it because we can't have it either? Setting up the play. So it's 1-1 in the third period.

I want to say it was 4-11-ish on the clock. And as they are in a timeout for the Flyers, the Flyers are in a TV timeout in their game versus the Caps. In that timeout, that's when John Tortorella made the decision to pull the goalie. As they're in that timeout, simultaneously, the Detroit Red Wings tie the game against Montreal Canadiens to force overtime, meaning the Detroit Red Wings are going to pick up a point and eliminate the Philadelphia Flyers. So in that moment, the puck is being dropped.

The Flyers go about 30 seconds to a minute elapses in their game time. The Caps go to the other end, score an empty netter. so apparently it's 30 seconds of real time ish yeah yeah so the way i did some like serious digging on this to find uh a couple like a side by side to actually verify that it happened in real time and and this is what i pulled from the espn feed of the actual play so if you're watching on youtube you'll see kevin weeks there in the espn studio and on the left side of the screen you have the as it says four three but it says seven seconds left in the third ish but that's the moment that detroit scores to tie the

game and on the right side of the screen is the flyers game in the timeout when tortorella pulls the goalie so we know that wait and to the right of that is the bruins intentionally throwing their game against the Sens yeah so we know that in the moment when John Tortorella said I'm gonna pull the goalie he didn't know that Detroit had tied it exactly the moment that he decided to pull the goalie so the pull the goalie thing is all fair and where we get into did he try and screw the Pens and Red Wings is he left the goalie out of the net right so if he decided here and he says somebody in his ear says detroit detroit's going over time they got a point we're eliminated uh you can just win the game normally does he decide to put uh urson back in the net does he have an

earpiece in though i think i think he does because he admitted after if we want to play the audio i do press conference we can play that he admitted that when the empty netter went in is when the video coach told him so he was being fed info about the game during the game well like sheldon he for example does not wear an earpiece he has dean chenoweth i believe it is um who does the little wrist microphone thing and he's other guys on the bench are mic'd up the head coach is not necessarily right so when i when i say like somebody told them the assistant coach who's talking the video coach tells john tortorella so john tortorella says that that happened as the empty netter went in after it went in he's told like hey detroit went to overtime

were eliminated so i'm just wondering did tortorella decide to not put the goalie back in or leave him out of the net once he knew and did he in fact know while it was out of the net or is he telling the truth here and didn't find out until after the goal was scored see i'm gonna point something out jesse because a lot of people are suggesting don john tortorella did this on purpose to screw the penguins and the red wings and the and just be spiteful what you're suggesting is scandalous yeah it's not oh yeah he owned them oh flyers and penguins rivalry isn't he so cheeky no that's point shaving actually no it's not it's an enormous fucking right it is he intentionally lost a hockey game yeah man he didn't he was trying

to win a hockey game is how he phrases it like it's not that he was intentionally trying to lose he put his team at a six on five advantage to try and win the game it's not why doesn't everyone do this thing well i think i think in this particular case i i actually agree with john and with jesse on this one what is he going to do you have to you have to go for it you must go for it right because you got to hope that something magical happens in the other game now is it funny that he screwed change is it funny that he screwed pittsburgh and detroit hilarious yes i think it's hilarious especially pittsburgh uh because they're crosstown or they're cross state rivals and they should be and whatever but i actually don't believe that john tortorella is the kind

of guy who's like you know what let's point shave and fuck these guys i don't believe i don't go out there and loon like i just don't think that's a tortorella thing go ahead and play the the audio Here's what he said post-game. The goalie pull, were you getting info about the status of the Detroit game, or were you solely focused on this one? I got info on the Detroit game right after they scored their empty netter. I think it happened pretty close together. But I was pulling them.

I'm pulling them, and that was the right time to pull them. Didn't know anything was going on with Detroit at that time, but immediately after that, our video guys told us that Detroit just went to overtime who's this idiot who's this idiot get off the screen i like i like the fact that this happened this was a fantastic race yeah um all the way through i know people are pissed at him today listen uh get mad at him for the right reasons detroit fans and pittsburgh fans you can get mad at john tortorella or you can be honest with yourselves and say that both of your teams were pretty flawed um you didn't have a great shot at this at the beginning you

were always going to be a 7-8 seed and i'm refusing to call these wild cards anymore because there's nothing wild about that card fuck off with that please um you're 7-8 seeds and you were always going to be fighting it till the end and i know that detroit went on a tear at the beginning of the year and that's cool but like what happened after they became themselves i know that pittsburgh had a bit of a tear in the last month but what were what about all the other months where they were basically themselves guys if you're pissed what you should be pissed about is that your hockey teams let the washington capitals who are old and bad and have the worst goal differential in nhl playoff history they got in and you didn't you should be pissed at your gms you should be

pissed at the system uh you should not maybe make the signings that they we warned you about justin hall we warned you about graves in pittsburgh these guys like literally dubas needs to and and i think eiserman does too um i know from what i understand anyway there is there is significant pressure in detroit to make the playoffs so this is a huge l this is like more than pittsburgh detroit is one team that you should keep an eye on not because like steve eiserman's in trouble or anything like that but the illich family is like we have this beautiful arena that everybody acknowledges the best in the entire sport and it hasn't seen a playoff game if this what are we doing if this year isn't it which i don't think it is next year might be i i think you're on the

clock and i think with dubas and and and fenway sports entertainment i don't think mike sullivan's a bad coach he's probably the olympic usa head coach or whatever but you've got to figure out what you want to do with sydney's last years here because frankly the team no matter how many times i got tweeted no the team's good the team's good and and all the way down the stretch going all Pittsburgh's going to make it. No, they're not. They were never a playoff team. They were never that good.

Sidney Crosby's good. Surround him with good players. Michael Bunting's a great star. What a great timing. He's been awesome since he showed up in Pittsburgh. Full marks for that one. It is time to cut the dead weight in Pittsburgh. There's a lot of players that just don't contribute much.

They show up. They get dressed. They don't do much. They go home. Enough. Enough. They got to figure out that goaltending situation a little bit better. I know Nedeljkovic had a really good stretch there.

really good stretch is not really good guys it's not good enough you need a full year and it or or do you say to sydney listen uh uh we're we're a couple years away from being a couple years away what do you want to do i mean like you can adam how are you going to rejig this here's here's why i think um you're completely wasting your breath what are the pittsburgh penguins who are old need to do get younger get better how do you get younger and get better with a bunch of old guys under contract uh you try to trade and retain you move off of guys yeah i don't know how you do that in this case kyle dubas has not been an nhl executive for well he's been an nhl executive for 10 years now what defined his time in toronto loves his guys not moving off of his guys

enjoy i think i think you you have to take like pittsburgh for instance has to take a good hard look at carlson has to take a good hard look at um that like that carlson trade might go down as one of the worst additions in history and it's not because eric carlson's not a good player it's because like you have chris letang well move off of letang then yes if you're going to bring a carlson letang's got to go well letang can't go because him and crosby and malcolm wanted to stay together at some point you got to be ruthless here and that's what i'm asking fenway sports and entertainment and kyle dubas to actually do i've never seen kyle dubas be real really ruthless to be honest well and i think in in fairness to kyle he alluded to being ruthless and it got him fired

yes yeah so that couldn't it may not be all his fault but i i'm it's time for things to get real in pittsburgh it really is and pens fans i'm not trying to dump on you at all um i think they know i think they know they know i think detroit i if you if derrick lalon's job is not on the line a little bit here i think detroit spent a pile of money i think their pro scouting needs it needs to give their head a shake justin hall not being in the lineup we could have told you in toronto we could have told you hall petrie is tough real tough dude petrie into the sun into the sun and And I think you look at the talent they have and you go, well, they should be better. But is this team, is this Detroit team inspiring anyone?

Is anyone like, holy crap, they're up and coming and there's lots of talent? I look at a team like Montreal, who admittedly has made some weird draft picks, but they got the Lane Hudsons coming up and they've got, you know, I'm not talking about like Nick Suzuki, who I think is the second coming of Saku Koibu. I don't know if he's going to be a hundred point guy, but I think he's a valuable player and a great leader and and they're going to be fine i look at montreal in two years and i look at detroit in two years and i think montreal gets a goalie i feel like montreal is on a better trajectory it's a big ass though getting a goalie yeah they'll find a goalie yeah no that's it

steve's not wrong that's they'll find one if like goaltending is your biggest issue it's hard to find that guy that's the flyers they've been looking for a goalie our entire life yeah 30 years uh i had a couple questions there one detroit fans seem content with derrick lond he's been there for two seasons and i think more of the blame should be on eiserman and the guys he's giving to lond so yeah but i i i would look at it and i'd say i can see how eiserman might put the blame on lond and say i think i built a playoff team and they collapsed with dylan larkin going out early uh late in the season you know so i don't know if eiserman says i gave you all the right pieces and you failed then maybe it's Derek Lalonde's fault and his job is on the line so

that's an interesting piece there where do you guys sit on Tortorella just close this out where do you guys sit on what happened here do you believe Tortorella's sequence of events that he was told of the Detroit goal once the empty netter went in or do you believe that it happened he was told before like 30 seconds before that while the goalie was out I think this was always the game plan yeah it was always the game plan um you're going for a win what what do you do oh well let's stop then let's stop trying no because if if they if they were eliminated why would they go for the regulation win like that doesn't make sense right i i think i think the the time between the decision and the goal were it was too slim right that's kind of where i landed too yeah

yeah i don't think you can make a call like that and i don't think torts would do that i don't think you can un-pull the goalie just because you were eliminated from the playoff yeah yeah and and philly was desperate they had to do it it reminds me a little bit they had to do it up until detroit scored yes yes there was a remember there was a night like kyle lowry hit a buzzer beater to send a playoff game to overtime and there was like a walk-off home run for the jays yes i was at that was the uh uh the edwin wow that was the edwin when i was at it and i walked outside to the raptors the raptors fans coming out of scotiabank at the same time and those i believe is how it went those moments where i think i'm exactly a minute apart you know it's just it

works out that way right yeah yeah and then uh a final thing uh the pens you're you're talking about the pens there and letang and all that stuff did you guys know that uh malkin letang carlson and crosby all played 82 games this season wow and when i read that last that has to be the first time oh it's gotta be has to when when i saw that i said oh so you know what you have yes you got them all healthy for 82 games who has gotten eric carlson for 82 games that's unbelievable there's so many games well i don't think there's any excuse for kyle moving forward you know what you have and here's the other thing man okay so ned is up nadalkovich is up and you probably can re-sign him but the only guy who is like ufa of any consequence that you

knew he was probably going to retire anyways jeff carter like that doesn't free a ton of cap space for them they're gonna have to move off of like guys who have real value here like you could trade carlson anybody would take him at a little bit retained right like that anybody looking for an offensive defenseman would take eric carlson um but you are gonna have to retain but that's all you're gonna do it less than 12 months later the guy you acquired here's what kills me yes agreed but you got it if you're gonna make a mistake make it quickly right that's the thing if you're gonna make a mistake own it move on boom done you're gonna make a mistake make it over the course of half a decade chris letang 36 four more years on his deal oh no okay oh boy uh

Uh, Evgeny Malikov, 37, two more years on his deal. Okay. Um, I don't know how you feel about Brian Rust and Ricard Raquel, 30, 31, both of them making around 5 million bucks. Both of them have four more years left. This is what I'm talking about. And, and, and so when we, and then, you know, Graves, who I believe is sitting on the sideline with long-term injury and Nolichari as well, this team has got to get younger and they're

going to have to make some really tough decisions to me like you got to start to rebuild the defense around like marcus patterson like he's who's 27 oh boy or you move off of him and you get some value back the damn cupboard they got nothing in it man they got a few and you might turn into depth guys dubas is good at finding those guys oh yeah guys really good really good at that college free agents europeans yep but i just i don't know man i think this is that this should be the turning point for the the penguins and i for one am ready to see uh mckinnon crosby in colorado by the way um to our goalie conversation about uh the habs yeah yeah uh you know just get a goalie so i tried to look up the last time the flyers had a vesna nominee i couldn't that's not fair

that's the nominee well i couldn't find nominee but the flyers have a vesna winner more recent than detroit okay that's weird wow this is a team no well i can't even find the last time detroit had one the flyers had pelly lindbergh oh um in 1985 he was great um and i I know Hextall won one as well. Oh, Hextall won one in 87. And Detroit, I'm scrolling. I'm scrolling. There's a Bernie Perrant one in 75 for the Flyers.

Where the hell's Detroit? Have they ever had one? Oh, there it is. Terry Sawchuck, 1955. The Toronto Maple Leafs have beaten the Bruins in a playoff series more recently than Detroit has a Vesna winner. Yeah, but they've had good goalies. I know.

and they also sometimes they didn't need to like nothing against chris osgood but like when you have let's try adequate yeah adequate it's fine yeah but i think this detroit team needs a solid like great goal i think eiserman needs to rethink the husso lion reimer trio what would you do with that i don't know you gotta keep husso husso's been valuable for them husso can't stay healthy yeah like it's weird from the moment they locked it up you can't rely on billy husso unfortunately to be your everyday starting goaltender because he can't stay healthy and he's locked he's locked up through next season so he's going to be on the team at 4.75 million you hope that it's a healthy year for him but he's so he's going to be on the team it's going to be alex lion at 900k

as the backup and i think you move off a reimer and i don't know if maybe there's a another depth goalie because you always need more than enough goalies there's got to be somebody else you can bring in there in place of reimer there i do not understand why lion signed that deal for that at all yeah like you had a really good run as the backup goalie for the team that went to the stanley cup final yep signed a nine hundred thousand dollar deal with a non-playoff team to be uh one of three goalies i don't think there was told you to make that career choice i don't think there's room for him in florida anymore didn't have to be florida i mean right like detroit was the best situation you could find you're sure all right something you should keep

in mind too here are the ufas for detroit oh boy perron that's tough cane that's tough sprung that's tough oh they're they'll get they'll get that done christian fisher he's too good oh okay zach aston reese austin uh zernick uh and then shane goss's bear now here's the rfas which is even more interesting and these three rfas are the ones oh by the way james reimer's ufa too but I think they're probably moving on from that. Here's Detroit, by the way, who has $81 million in salary cap this year. Have to re-sign Lucas Raymond,

Joe Valeno, and Moritz Seider. Oh! Oh, that sucks. You've got Justin Hall making $3.4 million for two more years. Jake Wallman making $3.4 million for two more years.

Ole Mata making $3 million for one more year. And Jeff Petrie, $2.3 million for another year um not need to make that and also ben ben charotte and who has his value like i'm not i'm not disputing that ben charotte is their highest paid defenseman right now for the next month for the next month until until cider resigns but that's 5.7 5 million dollars for a guy that's supposed to be your playoff performer but you guys can't get to the playoffs yeah that's tough that's tough yeah no i know adam i know nobody's saying

that they're not good everybody's saying a lot of this doesn't make sense and i think the pro scouting department should be sweating right now they've done a eiserman's done a very good job like the job done in new jersey where they've kept the top end of the contracts really low yep like having your highest paid defenseman make 4.75 million dollars is a tiny piece of work having your top forward make 8.7 million dollars is really good but that middle area where you're handing out these four million dollars or three million dollars to justin hall and just loading up on those mid contracts is a little questionable yes yeah yeah but then derrick uh derrick dylan larkin goes down and then you're dead yeah you're dead yeah and you can't get anything back you go

on a terrible losing streak and get no goaltending and yeah you can't you can't build a whole roster out of mid players yeah like he comes back and he keeps you alive but it the damage was already done to end the season the washington capitals went four four and one in their last 10 and that was that's not that's not 10 games in their last nine that was heroic there watch the caps just go on a roll here like you're telling me you're one of those teams and you look at how bad the caps were and even bad down the stretch and you missed the playoffs to that yeah that sucks hey uh speaking of uh the habs need a goalie for their rebuild charlie lingren charlie lingren should have heart votes yeah he was great yeah he was great he got the caps to the playoffs there's one

like wait a sec if you went lingren allen well why are you thinking that they can just take him what are you talking about no no no that they take them they had them right right what i'm trying to point out right right like oh you mean you mean if they stuck if they had lingren stuck I thought you meant like this offseason go take them back I mean yeah they should just do it anyway you know what they should go and take Patrick Waugh from the bench of the New York Islanders

put him in a jersey again Slavkovski for Lindgren I want to point out just an oddity in stats so I'm looking at Alex DeBruyne-Katz season 82 games that's so many games played 82 last year last year he had 27 goals this year

27 goals last year 39 assists okay this year 39 close 37 40 oh so whoa moving on up 66 and 67 points okay uh his penalty minutes are 45 and 34 plus minus differential between last year and this year this year he was a plus one we last year a negative 31 in ottawa so that's the major change random now again plus minus doesn't matter until it's crazy until it's absolutely bonkers and then you're like something something went wrong there he should be better than that i think that ideally detroit was hoping to get the 35 goal scorer that everybody was on a crazy pace to start the year and he tailed off to a very

mid-level No, I was about to say, and Detroit gave up Frank Nazer to get him, but no, that was Ottawa. Ottawa gave up the seventh overall pick for this guy Nazar? Nazer? I assumed it was Nazar, but

I kept hearing Nazer on the broadcast Right? And I'm like, am I wrong? I always assume the broadcast is right No, it's the children who are wrong One that I've i've wanted to bring up for weeks but since we're on the topic of names yarn croak yarn crock i say yarn croak i say croak too okay here's i i've heard yarn croak a lot recently uh we always think it's like russians or something no swedes are the most bushered names in hockey forsberg

it's forsberia is it it's forsberia yeah but that's their language we're speaking english here okay wow wow all right we're speaking like that whoa it was a joke guys it's a joke it's just joking where's uh it's a joke learn english adam what are your show hey otani what do you be a bigger star what what do you who the fuck said that stephen a smith went on television that is a thing he did yes adam what are your thoughts on milk and honey i'm i'm ready to welcome to the melting pot yeah yeah whoa i'm sorry this is america and we speak english here damn we speak actually american here and we have freedom fries that's right um but god i'm so uncomfortable um the uh well i don't even remember what the well no i

I think it's Yarncroak, I think. Oh, yeah, yeah, Yarncroak. It's Yarncroak. You know where I always hear Yarncroak, and Matty can attest to this because sometimes we'll play in the office, on Kipper and Bourne. They're big Yarncroak guys, both of them.

Oh, yeah? Yeah. So I'm like, should I trust Justin Bourne on his pronunciations? I think you can trust him on lots of things, but I'm not sure I trust him on pronunciations. I trust him on hockey breakdowns, though. Yeah, not...

But you know what? That's a challenge to Justin Bourne. Prove that it's Yarncroak, Justin Bourne. Prove it. i'm gonna throw out a theory i don't think it's kiprios no it's not it's not it's actually not you know what good point is there a soft k in greek because every other every other letter is a soft one no idea like riprios or yiprios or something no ideas go you know what hey guys let's let's go out after this and order some gyros what do you think

we don't we don't know how to pronounce shit we don't just to mention for detroit because we spent a lot of time criticizing them they hit it out of the absolute ballpark with the patrick kane signing like yeah they did wow and now he wants to go to florida so uh good for them great audition well done everybody yeah that was a spectacular move they nailed that i i can't wait for may or something when the report comes out that kane has it narrowed down to florida or boston can't wait yeah oh it's probably going to be something like that just kill me hey this show is sponsored by better help and listen it's playoff season uh and you know maybe it's actually technically not playoff season this is

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And what better way than with the delicious Pret Organic Coffee Starting at just $1 all day, every day, now until December 31st You've got to try breakfast at A&W At participating A&W locations in Ontario um so i do want to say this we are we've we've gone hard at the penguins and red wings and i feel validated by the way based on my pre-season projections um oh my god but i do want to say that um uh we're idiots and our predictions were i got eight out of eight playoff teams and i'm that's great yeah in the west i got eight out of eight good for you you guys were six out of eight

in both conferences and we're all three six out of eight in the east yeah okay yeah okay that's pretty good oh man well the sabers killed us all yes um yeah the devils man uh but i also want to say i just want to say that um uh the washington capitals deserve a heck of a lot of credit yep that that is like old man strength you know like when they talk about dad strength your dad you know you've been working out at the gym and you're like come on dad let's do a let's do an arm wrestle i don't think i've ever and your dad just well you know how some dads are like yeah let's do it And then dad just destroys the 21-year-old because they got dad strength.

I've lifted kids with these hands and groceries. And I've put shelves together and Ikea furniture. Hey, I think that those groceries will take two trips. Fuck, did you just call me? Yeah, right? What? Right? Like, Washington Capitals are old.

And, you know, but depending on who you ask, they're not maybe that good either. But that really doesn't matter. they're in the playoffs and i think that they deserve their flowers and so let's do a little game called say something nice about the washington capitals okay despite going four four and two with a negative seven goal differential in your last 10 games to end the year i think you did a good job by being very mid and making the playoffs god damn i'm not really you're sick i'm not impressed you know what we were right to what say calling it the mid

tripolitan it is the mid-tripolitan like they didn't they didn't win their spot listen they didn't lose it though and all the other teams did everybody else stunk really hard around them and they stunk a little less bad here what did i say at the beginning of the season was the big difference between the penguins and the capitals i don't know the capitals have already started restocking the cupboard yes they've had draft picks and they've done well with those draft picks connor mcmichael 18 goals 33 points as we've said the better connor mick yeah alexi protos uh 78 games played 29 points it's not bad for a young guy sunny milano only 23 points you got 15 goals out of the sunny cast away from the ducks uh 27 okay so maybe a little older than you think

and the capitals leading scorer you guessed it dylan strome yes it's the first time in ovechkin's career that he is not the leading scorer and how about this the fifth leading scorer on the washington capitals is still a guy they traded a month and a half ago in anthony mantha oh he played 56 games for them and the trade was uh traded from washington to vegas for a second round pick in 2024 and a fourth round pick in 2026 how many second round picks has anthony mantha been traded for it was like two in edmonton two for two washington edmonton yeah he was wasn't he traded to edmonton no he was traded to uh he was detroit to washington that was a crazy trade trade so anthony mantha traded from detroit to washington for jacob vrana richard panic um a first round

pick in 2021 that turned into wyatt johnston oh man uh so that uh ended up getting flipped and a second-round pick in 2022. I don't know who that person is. The Capitals, you know, got some great performances out of this guy, out of that guy, but their youth movement is already in the system, already in the NHL, paying dividends, and that's what helped get them over the line to the playoffs. That and they got like 25 goals in the second half

where there were only eight in the first half from alexander ovechkin ovi came on hard the second half of the season it's a huge huge huge swing from being a guy you can like barely rely on for anything to oh he's lethal again after the all-star break it seemed like he just reset and everything was spectacular for him yeah we started being like uh he might not be gretzky and he was like mother watch out i i do i was mean in my compliment section to the capitals so i do owe somebody in the capitals organization the biggest apology who is it lauren oshi lauren oshi i thought had cursed the capitals into oblivion by if you remember a couple weeks ago she put out a instagram story asking for hey is anybody in the local area available to do wag jackets for the playoffs so

we want to do our washington capitals playoff jackets for all the wags there and i thought she cursed the team yes that was it you can't go do that and then you're out of you're not in a spot right now but you might be and then what the capitals did they ended up making the playoffs and now we have from taylor strome uh the partner of dylan strome uh ryan strome which strome am i going dylan dylan strome the wag jackets that lauren oshi coordinated so shout out at red bull tropical who screenshotted taylor's uh uh instagram story of the wag jackets i'll go closer here these are the caps wags jackets for the playoffs what do you guys think sexual licking a stamp right that's what's supposed to be uh yes but there's a stamp on the season yeah

I like it. It's very fashionable. It is. I like to see them on. Yeah. You know, but they've been secured. I want one. I do.

I want one. What's wrong with that? I don't think there's anything wrong with that. They look cozy and nice. My shout out, I want one. I formally apologize to Laura Noshi. You were correct in hunting down these wag jackets. My shout out is to Charlie Lindgren,

who is a goalie that nobody was paying attention to before this season started. And this is a guy that played 50 games for them this year. He started 48. 25, 16, and 7. That's amazing. A 9-11 save percentage. This year, that's pretty good.

That's amazing. That's amazing on a team that can't score a lot and can't defend. Well, not at first they couldn't. It's crazy. And the other guy I want to shout out is Ovechkin. by the way i predicted i believe steve you you had ob at 30 goals i had him at 35 he scored 31 so congratulations hey i win i don't know what you win i think i you probably said 31 just to

be a dick no oh no i said 35 i did say yeah where where are our apples that's a good question they're in a store somewhere yet to be purchased i i forget they're on a produce track i forget what the apple bet was yeah i do too you don't you don't have to get us apples as long as you get me a wag jacket okay i'll get you away i'll i'll message taylor strome we go way back and uh i'll make it happen all right who are you the wag of the leafs you want a leaf swag jacket the whole team the whole team i'm your sweetheart i like that let's do the press conference oh we're done yeah we're done i thought i thought you're chatting about charlie lingman no i just i just say well done charlie lingman 9 11 yeah

and also they got to figure out darcy kemper but that's an extra problem yeah on the note of wags yeah little spoon goaded being the little spoon yeah it's goaded it rules except i don't call it little spoon what do you call it well because my wife is tiny so i call it jet pack i like that she's my little jet pack don't you just like a good snug i get it oh big cuddler these were i think this at a sneak peek uh the lady leaf swag jackets from games one and two this was last year a lot of them these just look like the basic um those are toronto maple jackets from the leaf store right anybody can buy those those are drew jackets and yeah so it looks like they just went with the the drew house

jackets uh last year yeah for the leaf swags i don't know i like maddie just aren't as good what's your opinion on this they aren't as good as the other ones no the other ones are like campy i love them but what are these ones these ones are i don't know they're just kind of basic maybe the other one has like i love the idea of like licking the stamp that's so funny to me do they get a new one every year yes yeah yeah maybe there's something there where we go we try and collect all 16 teams as wag jackets and we review them and rank them maybe there's something there actually what does wag stand for wives and girlfriends okay yeah sorry i just keep their way and actually if you if you look in the distance you can see uh the tower that they own pwc stands

for people with coats that stop it what can we just move on what that was bad that was really good actually i forgot to bring this up in the main show the coyotes will play their last game tonight wow that's just depressing as hell and i guess we'll talk about it friday will there or won't there be something thrown on the ice my bet is absolutely yes i was listening to the cj show yesterday and julian was talking about because cj had never been to mullet arena and he's going to be there for the last game and julian's like you know mullet arena it's something you have to experience and like it's what if you're a hockey fan you have to go down there and see a game i was like julian they're not gonna be able to watch a game there after wednesday tucson so yeah

um i'd like to ask cj this and i'm sure there's an answer the tucson roadrunners don't do poorly no they do really well they i believe that they have a 10 000 seat or two right and there weren't the coyotes moved there they'd probably still be there well and why is tucson leaving why are the roadrunners leaving and going to mullet yeah that because i don't understand that at all because there's a lease agreement or something sort of hockey needs to play yeah they're saying that um the morello wants to maintain whatever agreement he has with the university and that right he might move that because he still owns he's still gonna own the tuscany roadrunners so he's gonna put stop calling the way he owns the tucson roadrunner he's not selling tuscany he's gonna keep them

under this agreement with the nhl he's still gonna own the hlt isn't the very obvious solution there put the coyotes in tucson and put the roadrunners in mullet what like no from the beginning like obviously not now but they're like okay let's put let's put um the this nhl team in a vacuum cupboard right and let's have this ahl team play in a decent size arena that is well attended i don't understand that at all i don't know the logistics of like is the arena could they make it nhl ready and all that stuff is it tucson a good market for the nhl team i don't know i don't have any of i'm sure there's reasons right that's what i'm saying that's what like it seems so obvious so i don't understand if it seems so obvious and it was the right solution i'm sure the coyotes

wouldn't have done it yeah that's fair i was like oh jesse jesse i cooked good yeah um let's get to uh a question here which team uh are you most disappointed in this season who had the most disappointing season from all of the nhl teams uh the leafs they have to play the brunes no um look at the standings here my quick pick is columbus based on how the entire season played out i had them a little higher the kicking it off in pre-season with the mike babcock stuff you completely like from there you're tanking your season and they've gone on to do nothing So Columbus is mine. It's a four-way battle.

No, pick one. No, pick one. Because I have to make a pick, too. Yeah. So pick one. Yeah. You can't just cover the league and do a good analysis. Hey, you know, it's all the teams that just missed the playoffs.

It's St. Louis, Minnesota, Calgary, and Seattle. Four-way tie. You know, whenever I get dumped on, screamed at from both sides. Oh, Matty Mike. Matty Mike. What's up? Steve, what happened to your Sharks merch? it's still in my house

are you still a Sharks truther oh yeah I think they could come back I still do I like that I think I think Steve's biggest disappointment is the Sharks the Sharks because I okay they're the biggest disappointment because I wanted to keep

the bit and they were so bad I didn't get to keep the bit you know what good answer I was gonna say Buffalo but yeah good answer adam who you got no i was also gonna say uh the sense of devil's there now you get no one who did you pick the sharks okay the sharks no but give a real answer uh the sabers the sabers um i really thought um we're gonna get good goaltending they were gonna shoot the lights out um and

like it was around christmas where i was like i don't think it's coming folks yeah uh i'm i'm my pick is the devils i i think they made the playoffs same thing uh you lose a couple guys to injury of course and they're important guys you know hughes and hamilton i get it um couldn't figure out their goaltending all year probably should have had markstrom calgary's a pain in the ass to deal with what's new um and uh i i think that the devils will be back and on fire next year yeah but you saw what the flames got you know they got to piss off their goaltender that wanted to stay there and now doesn't want to be there. Yeah, but they also got

which is what they always get in these situations. And I think they did very well. I hate their owner viscerally. I wish good things on Craig Conroy and on the Flames fan base. Murray Edwards can fuck off. I think

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