The Steve Dangle Podcast - Patrick's Stat Tricks | July 25, 2017

Episode Date: July 25, 2017

00:00 - Adam’s Home Sense Ad 11:00 - Serious life talk with Steve & Adam 19:30 - Hockey! Phil Kessel rumours 25:05 - Flyers Talk 29:00 - What’s Happening in Vegas? 35:00 - Some more quick signings 39:00 - Connor Brown Town 51:30 - Robin Lehner Re-Signed 53:30 - What if Crosby was on the Capitals? 1:02:00 - Steve’s terrible Leafs puns 1:06:00 - The Montreal Canadiens are treating their fans poorly. 1:13:00 - Who’s your Stanley Cup pick? 1:28:00 - Press Conference / Marvel vs Star Wars / Do you regret Marleau? 1:40:00 - Goodbye / Guests / A fun DM 1:42:00 - Adam’s message from KiSS 92.5 re: Chester Bennington’s suicide Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Panago Pizza presents SCP, the Steve Dangle Podcast, with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde. Okay! What? Well, we're not ready there. We're going to have let Jesse start. I walked in the studio today, and I sat down, and I saw that someone left a nice advertisement For HomeSense And their nice bedroom collection In front of my seat That's good

I was going to pull it out You mean my save the date For my wedding You know just pillow fighting Standing on the bed You know like couples do We've done that Do you know the story behind this Steve

I think You know what it was It was Adam and Caprice Were feeling like frisky But like in a playful way Right And they decided let's have one of our patented stand-on-the-bed pillow fights.

You know, I have to tell you, Jesse... No, no, the true story is... Are you going to post a picture? No, hold on. Do you care about me? About the picture. No, no, hold on, hold on. I think it's unfair that Caprice is fully dressed in this and I'm in my pajamas.

First off, I think that that's completely unfair, and I told her so when we did that. I think it's embarrassing for her. You're in proper casual Sunday morning pillow fight attire. What did she put on the Ritz for? I hope you put this online Put it up online No, it's already on the internet Oh, is it?

You posted it What do you mean? Adam Wilde pillow fight? No, it's on my Instagram Did you not post it? Yeah, I did But insert it into the YouTube channel So people can see it

So the story behind this is Adam For years All the years I've known him Decades Centuries Making fun of people I don't think that's true

Taking wedding photos Engagement photos. Engagement photos, sorry. Engagement photos. And saying he'll never do it. I did say that. I don't know if there's a cool way of doing it. And I sit down and he produces an ad for HomeSense.

That is really an old HomeSense ad. So Jesse is correct and I'm just going to have to swallow this one. There's just no other way around it. I am a hypocrite. And I'll tell you, the only great wedding shot I ever saw was you and Mrs. Dangle skipping and holding hands in the mall or whatever you guys did outside Hockey Hall of Fame. Yeah, just because, I don't know, just being idiots, basically. So dumb. But my problem with engagement photos was probably, you know, what was created by the ones we did.

You know, at least Caprice and I do have pillow fights. What I always think is, like, why are people that live in the city sitting on a tractor? Like, or standing in a field of wheat? Or underneath an apple tree? It's always standing in a field of wheat. Always! And, like, tall grass or wheat. There's people standing, like, I bet five of your friends right now, if you were to check their engagement photos, Have a shot of them

In tall grass or wheat Why? Why? You're city dwellers What are you doing In a farmer's field, man? Did you ask the farmer? That's why I did

Hockey Hall of Fame Right Because it had something To do with you Yeah And nothing to do With my wife But I mean

We were one for two So I think that's pretty good That's halfway I don't even remember Whose idea that was Anyway It does look like A Home Sense ad

I thought the photographer Did an amazing job That took like 20 minutes And we were in and out Done I fought that tooth and nail By the way

I did not make that easy Caprice was about to Divorce me before the wedding It definitely looks like You like really hammered her No no no no I mean I fought The actual photo shoot

Happening I was like I do not want to do this I thought you won The pillow fight I definitely won that too I don't believe that I believe deep down

You won No ask her She was like I will She actually at one point Jokingly But half jokingly Said to me

She's like I don't know why I'm going to marry you Because she was like I was being difficult And I Because I hated that stuff But I thought it turned out

Pretty cool What do I do with this You keep it and you put it on your fridge until the actual invitation comes you don't fold it in half though Cuz it's a beautiful picture You're a bad friend Jesse I hope your computer breaks down for you Wow Save the date is the promise ring of yeah, it's I don't understand why we're doing it But that's what we that's what everybody else is

It's where do I some of the frilly shit that you have to do when it comes to your wedding. Oh my god I hate it. They forgot to mark the price of the lamp It's hilarious They put it in Swedish I think Do I have to assemble This one myself? Lamp

Lamp Lamp You know the two You can just Both of you can Fuck right off Okay Jesse I can't wait to see

Your engagement photo I can't wait to see it When it happens one day Yeah a smileless Just Arms at his side No no no It'll be him

It'll be his B-sides Right No I think I think I'm gonna I'd do it over the top Would you? I'd get the tractor

And I'd do complete opposite of who I am I hope you do the tractor And in the middle of the field Like farming a field But it better be a big tractor Like a turbine Like it better be like a massive Motherfucker of a tractor

Not one of those old classy ones No it's gonna be Jesse With like a top hat And like a suit with coattails Yes And he's gonna be driving He's gonna be riding a horse-drawn carriage And the driver is a tiger

And there's gonna be There's gonna be no fiancé Just me Yeah oh yeah Oh I like that For sure just him Just me No and she's like

Pushing Just to be a complete jerk But you can't even see That she's pushing No Just know that she is pushing She's there You just see like

The wedding dress Kind of coming out the back Or something like that Okay yeah Maybe give it a little That way you like You know You get to see it

But not see it Right Right It's terrible You sound like There's no way any girl that you date Is going to be okay with that I want someone to photoshop that picture

And make the bride If you choose to show the bride Lana Del Rey If Jessie's going to marry someone Like today It's Lana Del Rey I'm pretty sure I don't know I don't think so Did you see her recent interview by the way

I guess she used to have an American flag Playing during Was it National Anthem or one of the other songs that she does And now she's like Well I go to France now And I can't do that Because the system's changing It doesn't seem right

I'm like Oh and the Mashable headline was like Your Donald Trump has changed Your Lana Del Rey Concert experience I was like

Fuck everyone in this Two things So dumb Two things Um Do you have an American flag On your t-shirt You do

I do The really little one But it's upside down I do I think it's Levi's or something It looks very nice Or Ralph Lauren or whatever Um

Two What was that vice Thing you posted yesterday That reminded me of that Did you watch that? I tweeted something out That said Vice has hit peak Vice And essentially

Which one was it? Was it Vice doing an expose on Vice? Because that's the final one That's the final one And I haven't seen it yet But that's the final one So the premise of the video You know Robin Hood, right?

I know Robin Hood well You tweeted it? You know Friar Tuck from Robin Hood? You remember his haircut? Yes, watch your language So they took Friar Tuck's haircut This electronic DJ From French Canada

From Quebec And he's got Friar Tuck's haircut And he's RH So already you're like Okay He's different man And they take him

He's different man He's so different He's super different It's like the rest of you Have good looking haircuts Not this guy Not this guy No

He's unique So he goes out To the store with Vice To the Is it the Tell me when I can show Steve Is it a vintage store It's like a vintage store

Like a you know A thrift shop Thrift shop And they're looking For his next sample so french electronic dj with that haircut and the comments are obviously all about his hair because vice vice viewers are not any more elevated than anybody else right they just probably think they are and it is like you got to see it you got to watch it when's the hockey

coming some of you are asking don't worry it's coming it's coming it'll come we've it's no no Wait So this idiot With his idiot haircut Is just recording Like He's like recording Like if you take

A tennis racket And scrape it across the table That's his That's his sample He's literally got a thrift shop Trying to find music And they're recording it for him Objects

Is the owner of the store Going like Are you gonna buy any of this shit? Or it looked like he did buy it I don't even know Anyway This is also one of those stores that you will find in, like, downtown Toronto where, like, you... You ever walk into a store and you're like, what do they sell?

Yeah. Yeah. Tons of them. Well, I walked into a store in Halifax. I'm like, what do you sell? You're a candle slash goofy lawn shit. Shot glass. Oh, you have some clothes.

Okay. As well. They have lobsters on them because the East Coast. Yes, and... Kitchy shit. It's called a general store. No. No.

No. A general store has food. And newspapers. No. It's the new general store It's a thing There's a lot of them on West Queen West We should probably stop playing that because we can't include it in the video

But just so you know Vice had hit peak vice This freaking guy is literally just walking around the store Banging on shit that he's not buying And he's finding his new sample man Man Just finding his new sample man With his haircuts

They're different You guys have mohawks and I got, like, a reverse one. Yeah. I look like George Costanza's son. Their news is amazing, but sometimes their other shit... No, no, Vice News is pretty amazing,

but sometimes their other shit, I'm like, what is happening? What a dumbass. Vice News in Quebec might be good, too. I don't know. That's where they started. Vice. Anyway, good times.

Okay, we have hockey stuff to get to. We have Phil Kessel stuff to get to because there is, like, there is a bit of a ridiculous... Ridiculous. This Phil Castle narrative, man. Oh, I love it. It's the ridiculous narrative.

It's crazy. I'm so happy. We also got to talk about Connor Brown and that contract because I have a couple questions based on what we know about Summer LTIR, which now exists, which we didn't know existed. It may not have existed before the summer. It may not have existed until Lou Amorello. It may not have existed in its current form, yada, yada, yada. It's always funny when Cap Friendly kind of gives up on something.

Because, like, if you look, I'm pretty sure Horton, or who is it that they put on LTIR? Horton? I think it's Horton. That would make the most sense. I don't think they have him under LTIR. Because they're just like, oh, for crying out loud. Well, yeah. We're trying to figure out too much.

I don't think it was in the public rules. Like, when they issued the rule book, I don't think publicly that came out. It said you can't go 10% above the cap. And I'm sure the Leafs just went to them and said, listen, well, we'll get into it. We'll get into it. We have some things to talk about But first, Steve, you wanted the floor, so go ahead Yes, okay, we're gonna get heavy

And I'm sorry, okay I listen for an escape Shut up, we're gonna get heavy for five minutes Fuck you and your escape We're gonna get heavy for five minutes Give us those five minutes, then it'll be done Okay, you're gonna be uncomfortable, you're gonna be Jesse Do you want me to set a stopwatch?

Probably a good idea Actually, sure, there we go Oh, you can do it on your computer, because Technology All right. I won't start until you start to stop. Five minutes. Ready?

It's already started. Okay. Well, thanks, Mom. I'm waiting. Look. He's killing us, Tom. I know. So in the wake of the whole Chester Bennington thing,

so obviously you know the lead singer of Linkin Park killed himself. That was about a week ago now. Adam did a really heartfelt thing on the radio. Dude, that was amazing, first of all. Thanks, appreciate that. Are we going to play that? Yeah, we can play it. It doesn't have to take up your five

No we'll put it No Yeah we'll put it at the You know what If you want to listen to it We'll put it at After the extra Sure

Yeah there you go That way you know Where to find it Yeah It was really good And also if it makes you Uncomfortable you know When to turn off the podcast

Sure Yeah No but it was really good And it was really heartfelt And you posted that Well you said it live on the air On Kiss 92.5 And it became a somewhat viral clip

Because it was really good And you were talking about I get Well here Do you want to explain it It's your Oh it's just You know

What I find And what I found amazing about that situation in a tragic situation is is how one disease can make even a person like that who has millions of people literally that love him millions of people yeah they he still felt alone so the rest of us is like holy holy shit like how could that is a that is a wall to climb that and having had people in my life go through that you know i know i don't think you know i definitely had anxiety attacks uh along the line but i've never had like full-on depression in the way that these people have um i can't imagine what you go through but i can tell

you what it was like to be alongside it and it's not easy so anybody who's a support worker out there too feel you man it's rough oh they go through yeah so yeah yeah i know a few of those too and yeah i mean they're like a therapist for people and they need their own therapy because it's a rough go um so here let me let me just out and say this around i would say may 2016 i started to feel really shitty so i i would often like go into a funk or something and like it and it would be really bad but it would last like i don't know a week or two and then it would go away and then it would feel like myself again june i didn't feel like myself july i didn't feel like myself august i didn't feel like myself and it august is when it really started getting very very bad

september october november and then finally in december i was like i enough enough i need to go frigging find help. So I'll, I'll just straight up say it. I went and saw a therapist and best decision I made in 2016, best decision ever. Um, I needed it. It was, uh, I guess, I guess what they called it was basically, I thought it was depression. It was anxiety. No, it was yeah. Depression caused by anxiety. So anxiety was my big problem. Like you feel it When they talk about mental health And physical symptoms I remember the first time I read that

I'm like really Like I was skeptical Cause I I don't know I never shared that experience Holy shit Yeah man It's real

It's real You feel it in your chest It's like It's like someone Someone has a hand in your chest And is squeezing from the inside It's awful It's friggin awful

But I went and got help And I mean it fixed it for me I'll probably go back Just get some checkups And it's not like I went once I went a bunch of times

If you need the help Here's the reason I'm bringing this up It's not about me If you feel like you need the help If you're pretty sure you need the help If you're skeptical as to whether or not you need the help If you need that push In my opinion, you should go get it

You should go get it for sure You won't regret it What held me back from doing it For like about two months I should have done it probably at least two months Sooner than I did Was I felt ashamed I didn't want to go

And then after I went I still felt ashamed And it took me a very long time to tell my friends It took me a long time to I told both of you but it took a while I told my parents last week You know it just I don't know

I don't exactly know how to explain that Well I do I can tell you my side of that Which is I remember Did we ruin it? We're at 420 Okay

Sorry Well here's We're gonna go a little late But I remember Steve Coming to me Can we have an extra 69 seconds On top of 420? Can I just

Can I just be straight About what happened? Can we just be honest About what happened? What? About what happened with You know how How I found out

What you were going through Do you remember? No I don't Okay well I'm just gonna tell you Okay It was Your wife That reached out to me

And said Oh that's right you gotta push him to do this and I did this when I was like 18, 19 I went through a really rough stage I was drinking a lot, I was in a rough spot I was 50, 60 pounds overweight

not a happy camper, completely lost guys I'm gonna lose weight with Jack Daniels I was a mess I was a total fucking mess and what was interesting was that I've been open about it but every time I brought it up in my early 20's people kind of give you that look like ooh, you're damaged goods man

and I knew I wasn't But I didn't really talk about it openly and whatever. But I remember talking to you in my elevator at my house on King Street and telling you, you know, you've got to do this. And you were like, yeah, I know, and whatever. And I could sense that there was some sort of shame with that. And it's funny, every person that I've encountered that has that shame, after they go, completely goes away and they get it.

But it's taking that first step to go. Yeah, and and I think you the reason I bring that up steve is because i'm glad you went i'm proud of you for going It takes it takes time and uh thought and and it's exhausting Uh, but when you do go it's a humongous release like it is crazy. Yeah, and it's not the cure-all It's not the cure-all. Some people need medication. I was lucky. Absolutely. I didn't Um, they gave me some Uh in case I have like a real Like bout yeah anxiety attack. I've I haven't taken it

I haven't needed it um yeah it's shitty man it is really shitty so and and let me let me wrap it up with with a couple things there was one funny story in the middle of that so when I finally opened up to Adam about all that I was like yeah man I I really you know I think it's time you know I need to you know go seek help I need to go to a therapist Adam's like yeah you know like I've noticed I've noticed a change in you in the last like two years which was really concerning to me because I had only fell down for about six months. I never, when you said it, I'm like, yeah, yeah, man, yeah. Did I say two years?

Did I say two years? You said like last couple of years. I was like, oh. Well, what I had noticed was ups and downs. Yeah, totally, totally, totally. And I wasn't. Which that's, I don't know, I think that's normal. Right, but I think that that was rearing its head early

and then you were coming out of it and coming back into it. This was a down like with a shovel. yeah just like oh there's new depths to this awfulness this sucks and what also amazed me was how many people i spoke to and open up to about it were like oh yeah me too you know and some of them were just like you know you should have never felt that way man you should have never felt the shame and going to get help and others were like i don't know how to word it probably pleasantly surprised like they weren't happy that i went through that but they were happy that You were dealing with it

Yeah So This is me opening up To you You The listener And uh If you need the help

I think you should go get it When you're with the therapist It's gonna be hard to open up I recommend Opening up as much as you can I'm not a mental health expert It just It helped

The Sessions To be as open as possible So Yeah If you need that push There's your push There you go

Go do it Boom Now fun Okay You guys went Eight minutes and five seconds Ah Whatever

69, 420. I'm sorry. So we'll start with the big news of the day, which is Colorado Avalanche have signed Matt Nito to a $1 million contract. Oh, Matt Nito. And apparently when he found out he was about to become a millionaire, he said Nito.

I had to. I heard he hit the mat. Oh. Yeah, because, yeah. Is there really any truth to the Phil Kessel narrative that there needs to be a, quote, Phil Kessel whisperer? Because now that Mark Reckie has taken over as an assistant coach in Pittsburgh.

I thought we tackled this. I know, but again, but it's come up again. There's a new one, huh? Yeah, because, again, they thought about, well, now Talk, it's gone. Maybe Kessel gets traded.

And Recchi's in there. And they've got the quote from Mark Recchi. And it says, I've actually been around the past couple years and spent a lot of time with Phil, especially during his first year here.

I spent time with Phil because we've had that opportunity to play together in Boston and we had a good relationship there. We get along great. He's a great guy. He's a fun guy. He's a heck of a player.

And he's got a great hockey mind And I look forward to working with him Sounds like a real liability They got a player They got a player for what Six, seven years With a 6.8 million dollar cap hit Who needs an assistant coach

To rub him on the shoulders And say hey Phil Calm down Who's already won two cups And led the team in scoring Yes Yes No well I'm talking about

Even before that Oh yeah When they traded for him Hey listen This guy's nuts Like this guy is like Completely you can't work with them complete liability But I tell you what rick talk it has some magical friggin yugioh powers that he's gonna

He's gonna. He's gonna tame this monster. I should have gone with Pokemon. Why didn't I go with Pokemon? Ah here it is Rick talk it used hypnotize He's he used hypnotize. No he has all eight badges Wow most coaches like Ron Wilson and Randy Carlisle They only had like a few badges. Yeah, like you need to have You can't just have the Thunder Badge to deal with Phil Kessel. He's not going to listen to you. He's going to be like Charizard. You've got to have all the other ones.

I forgot the name of some of them. Can you imagine if he was one of Ash Ketchum's Pokemon and they drop Phil Kessel off in the land of the Phil Kessels? Phil Kessel. Because there's the Charizard-like land? There's a Phil Kessel daycare. Just like Jerry Daycare and Charizard Daycare. It's all the same. A bunch of people who are the same.

It seems a bit like a stretch to me. It seems like a bit like summer hockey stories I don't Okay We've been hearing this for way too long So Maybe there's something to it Maybe

But I just thought it was funny that the Penguins went out of their way In 2016 when they won To be like you know I just want to say What an honor it was to play with the legend Phil Kessel And that was Bonino and Hagelin And Obama Sorry? And Obama

Well, I mean, that's a joke, Ryder. I don't know if he was super up-to-date on penguins and hockey memes, but at the very least, Bonino and Hagelin went to bat for him. I think Brian Russ dressed as a hot dog for Halloween and took a picture with Phil. So I got to imagine the penguins are fans of him. So what's the problem here? Like, what's... The guy is number one in, what, four or five categories

over the last two playoff runs both of which ended up in a cup yeah I just don't I don't know I

they say they have their guy in Mark Reckie maybe it's just to make maybe this is the kind of story you release where there's already a perception of Phil and it's just to make

Penguins fans feel better doesn't that further the perception though? that he's gonna have to get special treatment yeah but it's there you know what I mean? oh so you're not gonna fight it

yeah it's there and you won two cups so what does it matter that it's there It's just to make them feel better Because I saw a lot of Penguins fans go When they lost Hockett They understood that it was the price

Of being an elite team Is you lose people within your organization But it made them feel better You know, oh Mark Reckie He's, he's, it's basically the same It's a wash I don't know, that's the only logical solution I can come up with Or

Kessel's a pain in the ass In which case Isn't this, isn't this an example of why sometimes it's good to keep a player who's a pain in the ass if they're good enough.

Maybe. Maybe. I don't know. I ran into a Montreal Canadiens fan at a barbecue this weekend. How did that go? What was Amir doing in the middle of that barbecue?

They sure are optimistic people. Oh. And I, you know, I mean like, okay, Markov still hasn't re-signed. Who needs, who needs Andre Markov when you've got Mark straight?

Right? Just signed. Yeah 700,000 I Not that I Again The funny thing with Montreal

Is I don't expect them to be bad I just think I don't think we've ever said that No I don't think we have either I expect them to not Win the cup And they expect to win the cup Or they seem to expect to

I think You need a certain amount of things To put yourself in a position Where you can win the cup Montreal can win the cup If you got the best goalie in the league You can win the cup Any year

Any year I just don't think it's the greatest strategy in the world Fair Claude Giroux I'm pulling a lot of this stuff from Mr. Luke Fox No So Claude Giroux makes $8.25 million a year

He's our age He's 29 And he is coming off his least productive season He didn't miss a game got 14 goals and 58 points. Still pretty good. Sparking some trade rumors. Not bad.

But what Jeremy Roenick had to say was this. What did he say? The reason Claude Giroud doesn't get success is because he lets everything get into his mind and he looks for other things to blame it on. Is it possible that maybe the Flyers just weren't that great last year

and even though he got 58 points, which is still pretty respectable, although you would hope an $8 million player is a point-of-game player, unless you're a defenseman, Is it possible that They just weren't that great I mean they almost made the playoffs

But they weren't that great Yeah I think people tend to overanalyze Things like The Flyers didn't have trouble scoring goals Did they? I don't think so He had a bit of a down year But I don't think they had trouble scoring goals

Jesse are you on that? Whenever I see the fingers activate I'm like yeah Info No their problem was keeping the puck out of their net And I think they had some injury trouble too Like, Wayne Train had a wicked year. I don't think goalscoring was a problem.

And they've got some great young players coming up. Like, I really think that they're going to be scary one of these days. The Flyers? Yeah. Today. Today. They're scary today. They're back to being almost a dominant team, I would think, pretty soon.

Yeah, in the same way that a really elite goalie can make any team a contender, a really bad performance in net can make any team miss the playoffs. And that happened with the Flyers last year. The Philadelphia Flyers finished tied for 20th in goals for per game. Oh, that's surprising. How far behind middle of the pack team were they? They had 2.59 goals for per game, and Nashville, who finished 11th, had 2.9. Okay, that's surprising.

I didn't know that. Now, how are they in the goals against category? I got to imagine they were one of the worst. Goals against per game, let's find them. They're going to be good They're going to be better They were 10th Get out of here

Goals against per game That's weird You're lying Are you sure? Maybe I'm sorting backwards Hold on Were you sorting backwards on the goals for too? No goals for I had it correct

I was like what? Goals against per game They would have been 19th So they weren't as bad as I thought By that ranking Goal scoring was the problem Yeah

Wow okay No I wouldn't have thought that Hmm I think the Flyers bigger issue Is uh Ron Hextall Uh Divulging information

Did you see all this? No what happened? Okay so I was just trying to gather What was going on From Flyers fans tweets And I can't Jesus I wish I remember

Who it was But it was basically Supposedly Ron Hextall Had a bit of a Lou Lamorello policy When it came to injuries And wasn't into divulging very much Threw that out the window

When it came to Nolan Patrick Because I can't remember what it was I can't remember if it was his face or his abdomen He's an infected face Yeah he's out Because they had to remove a bunch of cysts It's like

If you're Nolan Patrick Come on Ron Shut up dude I guess the reason he would have done that is if you told them they had surgery done, people would be like, is it his knee? Is it his whatever? Oh, I suppose.

And a cyst is, you know, you just remove it. Yeah, a cyst is pretty, especially if it's a benign cyst, it's not a big deal. But if it's, you know, you have to watch that sort of stuff because it can become precancerous or something like that. Yummy. Yeah, gross. Yeah, but, yeah, I don't know.

If I were Nolan Patrick, I'd be like, maybe, maybe don't. Well, I get why he did. I get why he did, though. It makes sense. My favorite quote of the whole week, and I think they're going to be a fun team to watch just because I'm really not sure what they're doing. Toronto Maple Leafs.

No, Las Vegas. We haven't heard from them for a very long time, right? George McPhee said of his defense core, we're at a manageable number right now. No, you're not. Under contract currently with the Vegas Golden Knights are 11 NHL defensemen. Who do we got?

That does not include Nate Schmidt. I will... They still haven't signed him, huh? No, they haven't. So, the only two defensemen that are signed after next year are Griffin Reinhardt and Brad Hunt. So, it's sort of funny to look at it and go, okay, so you've got, okay, so their defense right now,

Garrison, Spiza, Stoner, McNabb, Merrill, Miller, Anglin, Theodore, Reinhardt, Hunt, and Schmitz in RFA. There's a good core in there somewhere. I think so, too. Yeah. But I don't see how you could say that it's down to a manageable number. I still wonder what's going on there. And there's a lot of free agents that probably shouldn't be.

Right. Like, I wonder if Vegas is what's holding that up. What do you mean? I just wonder. Like, well, if teams are going, okay, should we bother signing this guy? Should we bother with a guy like Markov, for example, who's old and asking for two years and a lot of money? Or is there someone we can get from Vegas

For a nominal fee Now Montreal already kind of did that Doesn't mean they can't do it again Jesse what are you looking at I'm looking at their cat friendly I'm just why haven't they done anything Like they can't Go into next season

With that can they I mean I guess they can We haven't had a team An expansion team in the cap year It just kind of sounds like they will I know like we're not used to teams just bravely going into the season that bad.

Out of their, what is it, nine signed defensemen, so excluding their RFA, two of them are under contract after next year. Which, that's probably just something expansion

teams go through and we kind of forgot. Yeah. My concern that I think was an under-talked about point, and I think we brought it up on the show, Is Like how many of these guys Are actually stoked to be

Golden Knights They probably didn't like Getting ripped from their team Like a lot of these guys Signed contracts with their team And they were happy to be there Except for Derek Anglin Who willingly signed there

Yeah Derek Anglin was fine Mark Mathot Has been traded Oh wait no he's a star now Has been traded yeah So never mind So that's out Yeah I was like

Oh no he showed up with the team And put the jersey on Oh that was the stars That was it Nope that was the wrong team Yeah just looking at Just looking at what they got. It says 13 forwards.

Two of them aren't real. Yeah. Grabowski and Clarkson. David Clarkson, not playing for you. Clarkson, I think he's never going to play again, right? Uh-huh. Grabowski may. Sounds like he may.

I don't know if he will, though. And then if you go to their minor league guys, Tuck might make the team, Alex Tuck. What about Brandstrom? Brendan Leipzig is in there. But yeah, I wonder if one of their brand new draft picks makes it in there. Eric Branson, he's still 17 years old. Wow.

Oh, God. Can you play in the NHL when you're 17? I don't know. Oh, he turns... You want to take a stab at this guy's birthday? What year he's born? He's born September 2nd. Not 2000.

Thank God. 1999. Oh! Whew! Yeah, man. Wow, man. Yeah. Yeah.

Nick Suzuki's still 17. Yeah, I mean, it's... 17 non-roster players. They still got a bunch of guys to sign. But aren't they splitting their minor league team? With who? I want to say the Blackhawks, or was it the Blues? I don't know.

I don't remember. Anyway, they still got some guys. Look at all those picks! That's insane. Oh, my God. It's crazy. I feel like going in, we were like, they could be competitive. There's so much potential there.

They chose not to be. And now we sit here in almost August and the team is garbage. I think, I don't know, I think Vegas is just Halo Reach and they're just holding the fort for Master Chief, just waiting for the Brandstroms, Suzuki's, guys of that nature. Players of that nature. Eric Brandstrom, guys of that nature. And they're just going to build the team through the draft,

which they probably should. Next year, they got a first, a second, no third. They don't have their own fourth, but they have Pittsburgh's. They got their own fifth and Carolina's and their own sixth, no seventh. The year after, their own first, three seconds, three thirds, a fourth, two fifths, a sixth, and a seventh. And then even the year after that, a first, three seconds. Can you even use that many draft picks?

So the roster limit is 50 The amount of guys you can just own the rights to I think is 90 Which the Leafs have to be close Yeah Which I want to get to But first I think we need to talk about

Mika Zivinijad actually Signed with the Rangers A bunch of people have signed yeah Five year 26.75 million dollar deal So it's over five per It's funny because it was reported I think Yesterday or the day before that they were really far apart And then all of a sudden next day they got it

So I wonder what changed there I think it's because it's rich people Negotiating with rich people And at some point Like Ah we're both rich Ah 400 grand I'm leaving on the table per year But ah I'm rich and I don't want to deal with this anymore

Fair enough Imagine leaving Two and a half million dollars on the table Because you wanted to go golf That's I think I think that happens more often than you think Yeah Oh yeah

Or you want your team to win Like Connor McDavid Ron McClain even came out and said By the way That at Smashfest During an interview That Connor McDavid is underpaid I mean he is

He's definitely underpaid It's just funny God bless you Connor McDavid For only being the highest paid player in the league By two million dollars God bless you Amazing I didn't get to meet Ron McClain

No? No I wanted to But he was playing, he was in the middle of a ping pong game with, a ping pong game with Sam Bennett and Matthew Kachuk. Apparently he lost. He did. Once the game ended, he just got mobbed for pictures and then he left early. Of course. Brian Dumoulin re-signs with the Penguins.

I think this is a pretty good deal. It'll run through, it's six years. He's 25. 4.1 million a year. Not bad. This is my one hope that there won't be a lockout Is the new trend seems to be Sign everyone for a reasonable

In the middle price Forever though Yeah High risk high reward Basically If any of these guys Victor Arvidson What an amazing deal the Predators have him signed to

If he takes the wrong knock to the head Wrong knock to the knee Breaks his femur Something crazy like that All of a sudden You know you got a bit of an albatross Geez Steve I know

Wow You know what if the deer dies anyway Seven years 4.25 million a year It's a good Good contract It's like the Zaitsev deal If Zaitsev turns into something

And he's more than 4.5 Then it's all fine If not it's off to Robidaw Island with him Then he's here till 2025 Forever and ever You know what? The Rick DiPietro contract could have been really good. There was a while where it looked like it was going to be pretty good.

Injuries kind of. Can you imagine if the Islanders still had a league average goalie and above league average goalie this entire time locked up to, what was he getting paid, $4 million, $4.5 million? It's a good deal. Yeah, his name's Roberto Luongo. He's playing in Florida. He was the Islanders' first, though.

What if five years ago The Canadians signed Cary Price To like 4.25 for 12 years Forever And they're just sitting on that I gotta imagine like certain agents have to be like Nah you don't need security that bad Cary Cary

Well JBR's Gotta be one of those guys who's like Alright I'm ready Pay up kids He's been underpaid for like three years at least He's gonna be great this year Because this is the opportunity now This is his opportunity

Because he has been great Can we please get playoff JVR all year? That would be fantastic I hope they hang on to him And he just walks away at the end of it And gets paid obnoxious amounts of money by another team But I hope we get playoff JVR all year I'm happy with that

If we get nothing for him, fine Fine Unless something really smart comes up I don't know what the Leafs are doing I don't So let's talk about it Connor Brown, we now have, they're one contract away from the edge. They're at 49, I believe, and he would be 50.

They have a player on summer LTIR. Yes. And they can then go up 10% above that. Why has this deal not happened yet? I don't know. I get the impression it's not a tremendous rush. It wasn't a huge story coming out of Smash Fest. I think a couple people asked him.

But he wasn't really into talking about it. Of course not. He's palling it up with Zach Hyman, Dominic Moore, Connor Carrick. Seemed to be having a good time. Didn't seem to be preoccupied. I guess he's just not in a terrible rush. Maybe they have some kind of agreement where it's like, hey, we might do some finagling. Just trust that we'll sign you.

Lou said he's going to be there in October. What are the Leafs going to do? Get rid of Connor Brown for nothing? No. Let him walk? What if somebody offer sheets him? And what if Santa Claus takes over for the Easter Bunny? Imagine Santa Claus drops his pants and lays a chocolate egg.

I am blown away that nobody has come in and offer sheeted him. That's the same likelihood. How has nobody offer sheeted him? It's a 20-goal score. Does no one offer sheet anybody? First of all, you want to offer sheet Lou Lamorello? I don't know, man. You want to see what Hellfire and Brimstone looks like?

Offer him $5 million. You go right ahead. You go right in No one's going to do that No one's going to do that Also if somebody Offers Connor Brown Five million

You let them have him Yeah because you Take the compensation right Yeah You've got the room And you've got Players that need to play Ten million

Ten million bucks I hope so Their first Their first What is it First overall pick For the next Or their first round picks

For the next four years Can you look up compensation I think Dello That should be a new goal On the podcast Every time we bring up Dello So he basically wrote, like, the compensation is insane.

So, like, if you're going to offer sheet someone who's actually worth it, you're going to overpay every time, and usually that overpayment is going to take you into extra pick territory where you're going to have to give up four first or something like that. Do you have it? Over 9.8 is four first-round picks. 7.8 to 9.8 is two firsts, a second, and a third. Still four picks.

5.8 to 7.8 is a first, second, and third 3.9 to 5.8 is a first and a third And then 1.9 That's actually not bad For Connor Brown? A first round pick for Connor Brown You'd be lucky to get a first rounder who can score 20 goals That's my point

And then plus a third So a first and a third What salary range is Connor Brown in? Like 3.5? Well, looking at that Looking at that, you might as well offer the max for that range. So just go up to 5.8. How bad do you need a winger?

How bad do you need a second line winger? The 1.9 to 3.9 range is a second round pick. To me, that's worth it. Of course it's worth it. But yeah, the Leafs are going to match that. So all you've done is pissed off the Leafs. Now, the difference, I suppose, is maybe the Leafs were about to sign Connor Brown to, say, 3, 3.1. And now all of a sudden you've screwed them

For an extra 800 grand You know so I suppose I don't know It makes sense I understand The tactical use of it It's just They don't use them why are they gonna start They're not gonna start

I hope someone Gets desperate one day and just Cause like Leon Dreisaitl's not resigned I think it'll take one It'll take one One person to be a dick And then every other GM is going to be like Well, I guess it's okay now

They are a bunch of like It is like a trend league, right? They follow Yeah, if no one's making a big deal about Dreisaitl I don't see why we should make a big deal about Connor Brown Exactly But I would I would offer sheet Dreisaitl though

I would I would have offered sheet McDavid And I think they know that I think if there was anybody that was going to get it It would have been Connor McDavid Also, just no one's complaining that he's not signed And they're just like, alright, it's the offseason, let's take our time So we shouldn't really complain about

Connor Brown not being signed Because dry cell is a little more important Yeah, I'm not going to complain about it I guess I guess it's one of those It's one of those weapons that Yeah, you could use it, like the flames Could screw over the Oilers

No problem There's nothing stopping The Oilers from just turning around and doing the Exact same thing Hey, you got an RFA and just offer sheeting All of them Like Okay you'll get

All their picks But whatever happened to You know Oilers made it Two rounds deep Almost three You know They don't want to be

Losing guys Calgary I think Thinks they have A pretty good team I think they do Have a pretty good team I think they do Have a pretty good team

You know They don't want to be Losing guys Battle of Alberta This year is going to be A blast If anything You should offer

Sheet good players On bad teams You should offer Sheet someone from the Fs Yeah if Duchesne was up I mean Or like McKinnon or something like that. That's the only way that makes sense.

And they might go, all right, give us the picks, you bunch of jerks. We're giving up. Yeah, I just can't imagine. The next four years are going to be bad. I just, I don't know. It's not going to happen. I think Brown's happy to be a Leaf. I think the Leafs are happy he's a Leaf.

And that's the long and short of it. Okay. All right. All right. I just think it's funny that that deal has not, that means they must be working on something else, which I'm sure they always are. Maybe.

Well, funny you should say that, Adam. Did you get the same tweet that I did this morning? No, I didn't. This was from, actually, I have the chart open. Is it a Tyler Bozak Pokemon card? Because I got that. No, it is not, but I retweeted that. At ChewyD23 sent a depth chart for the Leafs, Marlies, and Solar Bears.

Yes, I saw that. I did see that. So here's the depth chart On Let's just say the wings First because some guys are either or Okay so going down the left Arbitrarily the left

Leo Komarov, Patrick Marleau, James Van Riemszijk Matt Martin, Josh Levo Those are the Leafs Carl Grunstrom, Andreas Janssen, Trevor Moore Kirby Reichel, Dimitro Timoshev, Tobias Lindberg Rich Kloon, Miro Altonen ECHL Jean Dupuy

I think And Josh Winquist On the right side William Nylander Zach Hyman Mitch Marner Connor Brown Eric Fair

And then in the Quote unquote Marlies Kasperi Kapanen Nikita Sashnikov Sashnikov second line Of the Marlies by the way Max Novak Jeremy Bracco

People don't know Who's Max Novak Oh I have no idea I think Okay so there's guys That are in different colors And I think they're Signed to

Ah yes they are AHL only They're signed to AHL contracts Max Novak is AHL only Jeremy Bracco is an NHL contract JJ Pichinich is AHL only, Christian

Pospisil and then ECHL, Chris Crane and Joe Perry Center Nazem Khadri, Austin Matthews, Tyler Bozak Dominic Moore, Ben Smith, Colin Greening Chris Mueller, Adam Brooks Freddie Gauthier and apparently they got a guy named Austin Block

on D Jake Gardner, Morgan Riley, Travis Dermott, Martin Marincin That's on the left side. Yep. Andrew Nielsen Renat Valiev, Callie Rosen Andreas Borgman, Matthias Cleland on the right. Nikita Zaitsev

Ron Hazy, Connor Carrick Alexey Marchenko, Justin Hall Vincent Loverdi Michael Pagliota and Alex Cabranson and then Annette You know them all. Who cares? The Leafs got some guys, man

They got some guys. Every AHL signing i see because they've made quite a few this offseason where are you gonna play just give them a purple jersey like right away you're on the solar going to orlando yeah yeah until guys get hurt i mean if you're a center you got a shot but like again just looking down the wing that's insane that's insane so behind the first four on the left for example carl grunstrom and jerry johnson trevor moore kirby reichel so that means you're sitting dimitro Timoshev, Tobias Lindberg, and Miro Altonen. Yeah. Unless you have Altonen

in the middle, which it sounds like they're going to do. Look at the right side for the Leafs up top. Okay, so you've got Nylander, Hyman, Marner, and Brown. If you play all those guys on the right side, one of those names has to be the fourth line guy. Yeah. There's a couple things here that I

am not certain are correct. Hyman spent almost all of last year on the left, I think. Yeah. But with Patrick Marleau on the team. Yeah, I think hyman's a natural right as well uh yeah fair you could put on the right or in the middle so let's say you have him as your spare which i think is much more likely than yeah still how do you get kapanen in the lineup levo's never gonna play ever again

sashnikov's gone i i like i've never been so certain he's got to be gone he's got to be Like, if I'm him, I'm asking for a trade. I don't get it. I don't get it. It's very, very interesting. And it's funny, because they'll probably go into camp with this roster. And they'll probably be like, yeah, we're comfortable with it. We don't care.

I don't remember who it was who tweeted it. Again, that should be a statement that I just tattoo on my forehead. But someone went, how are they going to go into camp with this many players? And someone responded, I don't know, probably the same way that they did last year. Yeah, they've done it. They've done it. They've done it. I get the impression you'll see a few trades or a trade or two in that kind of dead zone

where you don't expect to see trades. Like in November. We know Miro Alton can play center. Yeah. And Freddy Gauthier's out for six months. So he won't play until November, they're saying. Even if he does, he probably won't be at his best, right? So Miro Alton is on the bottom of this particular chart because we just don't know what he is.

Yeah, I'm not going to pick on the guy who made this No, not at all For where he placed guys As if Leo Komarov is higher than JVR But my thing is, okay, so he is listed as currently 7th in the depth chart on the left side for left winger Miro Alternan, in this particular thing Do you really think that Miro Alternan or Tobias Lindbergh or Dmitry Timoshev or Kirby Reichel Andreas Johnson, Karl Grundstrom

Any of those guys are ECHL players? No No Oh, so they'll just be scratches or Well, that doesn't make sense either You gotta play them You have to play So what are you gonna do?

I know Well, even these guys, they have signed AHL deals Like, the Marlies play those guys Yeah Like a Pichinich or a Klune even Like, Klune should be on the team I'm certainly not gonna say he shouldn't be But, shouldn't guys with an NHL contract get precedent?

If they earn it Right That's how it is Now some of you might argue well of course they're better than Klund Well okay You're not Sheldon Keefe You gotta explain that to him right So the depth chart is actually

Even harder than that I like this depth chart that he made Because it's usually People usually only make it with the NHL roster No it's got the whole thing No like before Justin Holl had his NHL deal He was one of the AHL guys taking up a roster spot for someone who was under a NHL contract. I, like, desperately want to show this to Lou Lamorello and just be like,

Lou, tell us. Yeah. Tell us. And he'd probably look at it and go, those are names that are currently signed to this team. Like, that's all he'd say. My new favorite thing is Lou Lamorello interacting with Kevin McGrann. Because McGrann always asks him actual roster questions. And Lou just kind of smiles at him and he goes, well, you got to try, right?

McGrann's like, yeah, I got to try. I'm not going to tell you. Why did you ask me? That's awesome. Robin Lander re-signed in Buffalo. It's the Jonathan Bernier show me deal. $4.1 million for one year. You know what?

Isn't that exactly what Bernier? Oh, no, he got two years. Oh, no, no, he did get two. He got two. You're right. Same amount of money. But I got to tell you, man, and Buffalo fans are right to point this out.

He did have strong numbers on a bad team. Totally. Totally. I just, I don't know. This is it, though. I think this is his show-me year. I think he'll come through as well. He's also only 26.

Yeah. Yeah. But for goaltenders, apparently that's somewhere in the, that's where they should be at their prime, right? No. Depends on what model you're in. They mature a little later, I think. I want to say, I'd say he's about to enter his prime.

He's one of those strange goalies, a little bit like Brian Elliott, not in terms of style at all. But you go, you know, would you take Brian Elliott for the season as your goalie? Yeah, okay, sure. Would you take Brian Elliott in the playoffs so you can win a cup? No. No. Would you take Robin Leonard for a full season?

And do you think you can make the playoffs with him? Yeah, sure. You want to take Robin Leonard in the playoffs? No. I'm just not into it. I just, he worries me. He's one of those goalies who seems to have the consistency there, and then when he falls off a cliff, boy, it's something to behold.

A little bit like the Flyers goaltending last year. I still think Brian Elliott's a pretty good comparable Like he just He is Unbelievable and on the days Where he doesn't have it figured out Jake Allen First half of last year

And then he figured it out And drove the Blues further in the playoffs Than they ever thought they'd get Especially after unloading Shattenkirk Yeah well and he actually Held it together he was the reason they beat the Wild They should have lost that series Man, this past playoffs

Was so strange, eh? It was So strange Crazy weird Some real contenders Gone first round Columbus and Minnesota Right off the bat

Columbus should have been in there Chicago should have been in there Minnesota should have been in there And then there was another one In the east Oh, Capitals after two How did they lose To the Penguins?

Watch The Capitals will go Further this year Than they did last year Or at least they'll go as far That is Because the pressure will be off I have been kind of thinking the same thing

They've still got Grubauer I don't know about further But they have Holpe and Grubauer I think they'll be about as good Won't win the President's Trophy but they'll make the playoffs and they'll be fine Will Ovechkin Make it out of the second round At any point in his career

Man I've never done it He's never won a second round series That's crazy Neither has Braden Holpe Neither has Nicholas Backstrom No I know But everyone is always like Ovechkin

And I'm like There's one anchor to the team And boy what an anchor He's sure dragging them down What a bum I I think I think it'll happen once

But I think it'll be when he's older You think so? I think it'll be one of those When he's turned over the keys We're pushing for him We're pushing for Ovechkin to make this He's gonna be the graveyard We're doing it for old man Ovi

And I hope that that happens Because I love stories like that What pisses me off about the way Legacies are kind of tracked Is that people base so much On how many championships you won But yeah If Wayne Gretzky had never won a cup

He would still be the best If Bobby Orr Had never won a cup He would still be fucking Bobby Orr But he had Esposito And Sanderson and all those guys Gretzky had Messier and Curry and Coffey and Fuhrer and all those, Anderson and all those guys that were around him that were just as amazing.

These articles have to be out there. I want to see an article where someone went, Messier did it in New York. How come Gretzky couldn't do it in L.A.? I want to see it. Someone must have written it. Messier had a better team in New York. So what? Oh, don't, listen, reasons have nothing to do with it, Adam.

I just want to see that someone wrote it. I'm almost positive they did Oh I'm sure it's happened I'm sure it's happened Just those ridiculous comparables that you can't prove And literally have no basis in anything Let's write an article about it Here's a ridiculous comparable that has no basis in anything

If you took Ovechkin You put him on the Penguins And you put Crosby on the Capitals For their entire careers Does Ovechkin have a cup? Can you imagine? Ovechkin and Malkin

on the same line. Exactly. They would have never played on the same line, though. No. Why not? Jordan Stahl might still be a Penguin, then. Yeah. Because I'm trying to think of the makeup of the teams, right? I still think, I don't know, your center They never make the full castle trade. Centers can just do more for you.

They don't need to. No, they don't need to. But they, like, both teams look completely different, so it's like it's, I'm trying to go way back. Because there's no backstrom. There's probably no backstrom on the caps, too, then. Because that's, well, it's funny. Well. The Penguins started to really get good

a season after getting Crosby when they got Malkin and the Capitals started to get really good a season after having Ovechkin and they got Backstrom. When was the first year they won the President's Trophy? Because they've won it like three times. I want to say 2007

or 8. See, that's a really That's a tough question. That's a tough question. Well, so the Capitals would have a 1-2 of Crosby Backstrom. If they got Backstrom. If they got him.

Did I say the Penguins or Capitals? Capitals would have a 1-2 if Crosby or Backstrom. That'd be pretty good. The Penguins would have... Crosby, Malkin's pretty good, too. Well, and that's what I'm saying. It would be Malkin and Stahl with Ovechkin. All things being equal.

And potentially Kessel. I mean, if we're just trading those two and everything else went the same. Yeah, what if we just took 2017 rosters? And it was flipped. And it was just flipped One for one And you just gotta fill in Your action center

And Extra one Pretty Pretty even Pretty even Who takes the series Game round two It's

It's Crosby Oh the Capitals Win the cup in three Like they don't even make them You think They just No Oh my god yes

With Crosby With no Ovechkin So Ovechkin and Malkin Like Crosby Remember that Crosby's Going up against Malkin Who's not, I guess, you know

Steve, you are correct, he's not one of the top 100 players of all time So, you know, probably doesn't even deserve To be in this conversation And, think of the Goaltending matchups Fleury Murray versus Grubauer-Holpe is a wash, right?

No, Penguins win the goalie Matchup. You think so? Yeah, they won it In real life, I think they win it again Fair But barely, man As a fair point. Barely. Barely.

They won it. I don't even think Murray played. It was Marc-Andre Fleury. Yeah, because Murray didn't come back. The Caps defense was really disappointing, too. It was. It looked bad against the Leafs. Yeah.

I don't think Crosby wills them to that much of a high status. Especially if the Caps. I do. Now, if you look at it. I do, man. He's unreal. I think Steve was right going into the playoffs when he talked about the pressure on the Capitals. And that's why I think they'll do really well this year.

Because now the spotlight's off them. We nailed it, though, heading into the Leafs cap series. Forget the whole playoffs. Just that one series. One team shouldn't have even been there, and the other team had to win the cup. Or it was a failure. You talk about the psyche of the team.

What did management and ownership do to help any of that? They made it way worse. We have to win this year. They basically told fans, we have to win this year, we're fucked. And then they were. Your impression of Caps management is quite funny. Fuck! It's like some weird Arnold Schwarzenegger.

Did they bring him in here? We must go for it, Shattenkirk! Who's the GM again? It's, um, I always think it's McPhee. McClellan. McClellan. So McClellan, McPhee, and the owner pulled over. This year!

Fucking this year! Get it this year! They trade for Shattenkirk, you son of a bitch! They do the bicep handshake. I take Penguins Still Man

I don't know Here's the thing though Penguins were so injured So if we're going on Those rosters Like there's no LeTang Are we going on Based on injuries as well?

I mean We've made up this much Sure Crosby Crosby going up against Like Hainsey And like Who else?

Daly They won though They won? You're right But I feel like They shouldn't have But they did And the thing is

It comes down to I think position Centerman Yeah that's true Having the stronger centerman Always gives you that advantage The Caps would have Their center depth

Would be Crosby Backstrom Kuznetsov I don't think They could win with that I don't think You could win with that No

No What if they go cold And can't score You're right Okay they wouldn't have Ovechkin But they'd still have Like Justin Williams

T.J. Oshie Tom Wilson would become A 40 goal scorer overnight Yeah he'd have to He was great against the Leafs man He was awesome Nate Schmidt on defense Who was like a wow

Like a revelation And then they lost He was one of those injury conundrums You ever get an injury conundrum watching sports So he got hurt I want to say in game 6 And I was like oh But that's pretty good Cause he was wheels man

And he's got wheels. I know. I didn't want him to be hurt, but I was like, that's pretty good news that he's hurt. And then they lost the game. And it was funny. We're seeing Caps fans tweet about how happy they were Carl Alsner went down. I'm like, that is a player on your team who has a physical injury and you're happy with that?

Yeah. That's never good. I mean, I'm always, when someone gets down or goes down, I get happy that someone behind them is getting an opportunity because I'm always excited for the unknown. Sure. I'm not like, Roman Polak's leg snap. That was great He was playing really well

He was playing really well Could've used him Shit That was the difference I'm kind of happy By the way The Leafs are so gonna Resign him

It's not even Like They can't That's why That's why That's why they haven't Resigned Connor Brown Cause they need to make room

For Roman Polak first No Once his knee heals up I can imagine What if they're They're waiting on Joffrey Loople They just need to wait it out

He's gonna come back to the team Bring back Loops Troops Yeah Which is now Leafs Troops Oh, is it Leafs Troops? Well, yeah. I was trying to think of...

We need a neat rhyming name, Leafs thing. Like, we should have a mom's night. Dominic Moore could sponsor Dom's Moms. I like that. There you go. Maybe you can stay overnight at the Delta Chelsea and be Brown Town. Come on!

Come on! Connor Brown Town. Brown Town. There's racial undertones to that People take that the wrong way I'm going to stick with Dom's mom I like that What could Ron Hainsey have?

A night where Prisoners get to leave their cell For a night And enjoy a Leafs game Why would they do that? You could have Ron's cons You could have Ron's cons On good behavior

They're just gonna give tickets To a bunch of convicts And not kids Yeah Okay cool Not children We're gonna give it to convicts Yeah

How about You know I can't imagine the board meeting We could give 200 tickets to Underprivileged children Or there's these convicts But Ron's cons really work

So I think we'll go with that I gotta look at this depth chart Look at some names here I don't know I think yeah We could add that Maybe There's a bunch

Maybe there's a bunch Of math whizzes Who like They're really good At school Like really good At math So their reward

Is they get Leafs tickets I can't do it They could be Patrick's Stat picks What? I didn't say math

Matthews. They're good at math. How could you not use Matthews? I wanted to give Marlo something. Oh. What would you call them? Austin's Matthews? Austin's Matthews! Oh, I love that! We found it!

Wow! Austin's Matthews. Future analytics team for the Leafs. You guys, Patrick's stat picks is a person. I think we should Maybe if you want to get married at the ACC You can Marlope

To the ACC to get married at Center Ice No That's a little too good Marlope That's good I'm trying to think of more It's not working

I just can't Patrick Statt Patrick Statt The most popular guy on the team He missed math in his name. How did you miss that? I'm like, okay, there's a Matthews joke there. Listen, I think the Leafs need to do more to recognize the blue-collar people of our fan base.

Yeah, who put on their hard hats and their boots. I need to see a night dedicated to Marner's Farmers. It doesn't even rhyme, really. Does it? No. I want it. I want it. I'm so ashamed.

It's embarrassing. I'm a little embarrassed by this whole thing I'm so confused Please someone make a hockey card That says Patrick Statpix on it It doesn't even rhyme How did I miss Austin's Matthews

Matthews was good That was really good You did redeem yourself I'll give you that Austin's Matthews But there's a guy with math in his name I'm stupid Jesse What can I say

How about A couple more things A couple more things before we get to the press conference The first one is Somebody sent me audio Because I made a joke about The Montreal Canadiens By the way, have you heard this story

About the Montreal Canadiens charging more money For tickets? If you want to print them? Oh! I saw a tweet about it Yeah, it's like $150 if you want to print out your tickets Season tickets? Yes

Season ticket holders You should treat them like gold though It doesn't cost $150 per person to print out tickets. That's absurd, you know? Have you ever been to a printing place with a lot of ink and a lot of paper? Yeah. It's pretty expensive. All right, so here it is.

$150. It's like $80. And then you upcharge them because you're doing it yourself. Anybody? I mean, they're rich. Guys, guys. It's $100. You work it into the price.

As long as you don't charge Austin's Matthews. Let me just tell you what this is in case you haven't heard this story. So the Canadians have informed fans by email that tickets for the 2017-2018 season will be available in mobile format only. Season ticket holders will receive the tickets electronically on their smartphones, which can then be scanned at the Bell Centre. Those who want printed tickets can obtain them for the cost of $150 plus taxes per seat. So a Canadian fan with two season tickets will have to pay $344.92 just to get printed tickets. Season ticket holders will also pay an administration fee of $100 plus taxes. Two sets of printed tickets plus administration fee will cost $477.14 plus the cost of the two seats.

In a letter to season ticket holders, Canadians management cites security, ease of use, environmental sustainability as reasons for the change. Some fans are calling this a new cash grab. Now, I mean, I understand. I understand that to a point. You know, you don't want to print the tickets out. It's costly. It's bad for the environment, whatever. However, if you are buying season tickets, part of the reason you buy it is to actually

have those season ticket tickets. Yes. They are beautifully done. You bought the tickets to go to the game. Go to the game. I know, but- I personally like the keepsake, but I don't know, maybe I'm in the minority there. Steve keeps every ticket he's ever had, right?

So like- Not every, a lot of them. Keep the ticket from that Jays game? No. That you guys went to What did they lose 12-1 I think it was 14-2

I think that's the We left at 12-1 That's only the The ninth time this month Or something That they've lost By double digits I've seen the Jays

Lose by double digits Like three times this season And they're still talking About not rebuilding It's pathetic Like I I ran into I miss Anthopolis

I ran into a sports A sports reporter On the Sportsnet staff And I won't say who And Jeff Merrick And And I said

How you doing? And he's like, well, watching a lot of bad baseball right now. And I said, they can't be serious about continuing on with this roster the way it is. And he said, the last two years were fun, but you knew the reckoning was coming. So this is the reckoning. I didn't think it was happening already. Oh, yeah. They knew.

Dude, they knew. We had a window. That was the window. I know they had a window, but they should be competent. They're shit. But we knew Batista was getting old. Steve Pearce He was getting old last year

Yeah and Morales and Pearce Were not You're not going to They're not going to cover For what Edwin And Edwin's been okay Yeah Smoke

Smoke's been good Finally Pitching went away But that's the thing Is that it's Pitching did go away And they can only hit home runs Yeah

Donaldson Yeah last year Was all about home runs And then like you said The pitching went away And then Donaldson was injured For the first two months Tulo's doing dick

And then Tulo was out For a few weeks Well Tulo's done And Russell Martin's old And even he's having a bit of a bounce back I think Tulo and Martin are going to combine For $40 million between the two of them It's crazy

I don't mind Martin pitch calling He just sucks at batting most of the time And it's too bad It's like the Tulo thing And Devin Travis can't stay healthy What a poor guy Yeah he's been out for like three months For the last three years

It's crazy The fact that they think they're not going to rebuild I would advocate trading Pretty well anybody on that roster With the exception of Aaron Sanchez And Osuna Although they're saying that that might be one of the names that goes But like, listen, I love Josh Donaldson

But does it make sense For us to re-sign 32 year old Josh Donaldson? No It doesn't I've said things along the lines of I just can't picture Batista in another uniform Like he is the Blue Jays

I can now They were winning when I said that So, now that's your shit and you really need to rebuild? Matt Sundin. Like, it happens. It does happen. And he was a pirate. He was a pirate first, not a J.

Matt Sundin was a Nordique. Exactly. So, it happens. Yeah. Seeing Sundin in a Nordique's jersey doesn't bother me. The Vancouver thing bugs me. Vancouver bothers you. It wouldn't have bothered me had the flyer trade gone through because we would have had

Jeff Carter plus a first round pick, which we totally would have fucked up by the way. Montreal. Montreal. So, I think it's, I mean, it's a cash grab, but you do, I understand wanting to push fans towards, you know, more environmentally friendly options. Like, you don't need the paper ticket. No, you don't. You don't. You haven't needed them for a long time.

If it's only like a $5 fee, people are still going to get them printed anyway. So, you got to make it ludicrous. Or maybe just. $150. Well, here's the thing. Don't offer it. Well, you have to, probably. you probably have to legally...

Well, what if I don't use a phone? What if my phone's dead? Well, if you have a computer, which you would need to sign up for season tickets, then you have a printer that can print out the one cheater, like the typical ticket that we would get. I was about to say, Adam, don't you have parents, but they're actually pretty tech savvy?

My mom doesn't have a printer, but you could figure it out. Some people have a certain vintage. Is that the Canadian's problem, though? I think they're doing it the perfect way. you want to transition to all digital and then if somebody

wants to stick in that old world you charge them a whole bunch and that's it and then if they want to do it they'll pay

right you know what if the Montreal Canadians were winning and hadn't traded PK Subban and had done really well in the playoffs

last year this would be like wow Montreal green hockey team love that people are just mad at them in general

I still always have to correct myself and go they won the division yeah they did there's another team Talk about teams that could have gone further

They won the division Ottawa was one game They were the hottest team in the east They were either the hottest or the second hottest team in the east Heading into the playoffs And they fired their coach Against one of the coldest, the Rangers And they lost

And then how often does the best team win the Stanley Cup? I think it's pretty rare And let's be honest, Ottawa was real close Real close You know, we haven't really given the Sens their credit But someone posted a depth chart of the team Because it's basically set Up front

That's a good team They got a good team Back end You got some question marks But at the same time Carlson plays half an hour So who cares And Oduya will be

I think he gives you A little less than Mathot gave you But not enough That the five million dollars That Mathot was getting paid Would have been worth it They're about the same team

Yeah I love playing this game Who's your way too early Stanley Cup final prediction Oh man Oh boy Our July What is today

We should make one every month And keep track Yeah We should make one Every single month But what is our pick then? Well it'll just be hilarious To see how

You're just tracking our pick I know Our pick is the one We've picked the most If we pick one A couple of times Well cause like Okay if I say a team today

And they win it What's your coursing of your pick? Yeah If I say a team today And they win it I'm gonna be like Ah see I called it But then

In September I pick a different team They're gonna be like No No Well it doesn't matter Let's just do it It'll be funny

Nobody believes If somebody says This team will win the cup If I tweeted that right now And I'm right next year It doesn't matter It doesn't fucking matter No

You don't really know that No Wait I'm gonna bring up My team I just wanna make sure I'm picking the right team Who do you guys think At this moment

On July 25th Who do you think Is gonna win the cup That's the question I think for the first time I want Jesse Blake To answer first Oh and he gets up

To change the battery That's a veteran move That's a veteran move He just did I forgot how crafty Jesse Blake is I got a team And It's a little bit hypocritical

Given some of the things I've said about them in the past Eh Maybe Well okay Here's the thing to remember And I've had this conversation with many Leafs fans They go What about the defense though

I'm like every single team in this league has a weakness Every single team in this league has a weakness So So is the Leafs' right side as strong as you would like it to be on defense? No. No. It's not horrifying, though. No, and that's their weakness, but their goaltending is good.

Forwards are ridiculous. Their four lines are ridiculous, each line. They're fine. Their fourth line's pretty meh. Whatever. Who cares? It's a fourth line. It's not going to make or break your team.

Penguin's weakness was everything outside of, like, Crosby and Malkin, Because everybody got hurt That was the crazy thing About the Caps losing Is they didn't really have one It didn't look like it anyway But anyway 28 teams out of 30

And now 29 teams out of 31 Have some kind of major weakness So I'm not worried about the Leafs Not being that great on the right side Here's my pick I'm not happy about this pick I know who I got I just

I look at them and I go Eh that's pretty good And Ah screw it I'll just say it The Anaheim Ducks I picked them last year I'm pretty sure

And the year before Made it to the third round They always seem to Make it there Do decently They're a miserable Shitty team to play against Not fun

Getzlaff's not too old Perry's coming off a bad year He'll probably be okay Kessler's still got Still Ryan Kessler Still got that fire in him Lindholm's gonna be better Hopefully Gibson's better.

That's a bit of a question mark. Vattenen will probably be better. They have such a strong defensive core. Fowler will probably be better. BX is going to be shit. Fowler, I think, had the year of his life last year, though, didn't he? Offensively. Defensively, he's kind of a nightmare.

So here's Anaheim's defense. It looks like they only have six guys. Lindholm, Vattenen, Fowler. And then you've got BX Holzer. That's pretty bad. And then Josh Manson. Who's pretty good Who's

Yeah but I mean that's like Their best Right handed defenseman And then maybe There's someone I'm missing On their back end Oh Brandon Montour

Could bring in They got a bunch of guys They could bring in Like they're A good team And they're gonna be A good team for a while Cause I think they just

Draft really well I like the Ducks I like the Ducks this year Their goaltending Is the biggest question mark For me Jesse Do you have an East team?

No one team Only one Yeah only one team Can win the cup Stanley Cup Oh, okay. I was doing my finals pick, but whatever. No, no, no.

Just one cup. I had a winner in the West and the East, but I guess I'll just go with my winner of the 2018 Stanley Cup, the Edmonton Oilers. Whoa! That's not a terrible pick. You have a team who went to the Western Conference Finals, who's bringing back, I think, everybody from their core,

and you have a year-older McDavid. And a year-older Cam Talbot. And a year-older Cam Talbot. But I think he's at his peak. I think it'll be like break even they need to say you know what's gonna

which is still pretty good what's gonna be a challenge for them is they're missing Andre Sequeira for like the first like little while of the season as long as he's there in June

hey man McDavid can play defense I think they'll be fine be good in June and you know we talk about like the little parts well not the little parts

the major factors actually that you need to win the Stanley Cup Cam Talbot can win you a Stanley Cup and Conor McDavid can win you a Stanley Cup you know

if as long as you have a good supporting cast Which they did last playoffs Got a one-two punch McDavid Dreisaitl Kassian's a demon Lucic is overpaid But he's still in there

You know If Clefbaum stays healthy If Sakara can get back to health Darnell Nurse takes another step There's all these other guys Nuge Had kind of a down year Go to the west though

That's interesting that you asked about the east If your third line center Is Ryan Nuge and Hopkins You're in pretty good shape Because you gotta think Drysaddle's gonna move to center Now, you're both wrong And I'll tell you why The Tampa Bay Lightning exists

I was about to say maybe I should have picked the Lightning Maybe I should have picked the Lightning Is there a deeper team than the Tampa Bay Lightning? The whole Division lineup For the playoffs Makes it so hard for a team in the Metro to win That's why

I can't believe the Penguins won Like looking back, I can't believe the Penguins won You're hard up To even pick Who's going to make The playoffs Out of the Metro Yep

Is the Is the path For the Stanley Cup At least for the final Ever going to be clearer For the Tampa Bay Lightning Than right now? Yeah

It may not be I don't think it is I know we're picking A team that lost last year But we know why they lost Let's like I just want to Throw their defense at you

Hedman Strawman Coburn Girardi Sooster Dachin and don't forget

Sergeyev who will make the team who will make the team yes and then you've got on forward

Stamkos healthy hopefully if they're healthy I think they're unstoppable

Stamkos Callahan Palat Johnson Kucherov Killorn who you would think is going

to have a better year they signed Chris Kunitz as well Nemestikov has one more year before

he's gone and then you get into guys like JT Brown and Kondra Cedric Paquette had a good year last year.

Brayden Point looks like he's going to be pretty like, you know what I mean? That's horrifying! Yeah, like that's a scary team. And then you've got Vasilevsky who, and Budai. I think Vasilevsky's the he's the question mark there, but like

if the answer is he's good, they win the cup. All he has to be is good. League average. Be league average. Few teams have the, a lot of teams have a really good goalie And one of A really good offense

Or a really good defense Tampa's got A bit of a question mark In net But he should be pretty good And a rare combination Of an elite Forward group

And an elite defense group If they don't win The Stanley Cup next year It's their fault That or it's just hockey Also fuck them Also fuck them I mean you know

You know though As long as we're on The lightning And we're talking about The east here Is it shocking If the Leafs make it To the finals

To the dance Is it shocking Shocking I could see I could see Second third round I don't think it's shocking I think it's surprising

Shocking would have been Last year That's shocking Right That's shocking Shocking is like There's no fucking way And it happens right

No you're two years Out of finishing In last place That's shocking If anything The roster was so Overturned I'd be surprised

I'd be surprised He's not shocked, if that makes any sense. I just look at the East and go, who's better? And the answer to who's better, there aren't many teams. And the teams that are better, I don't think it's that huge of a gap. I worry about Philly. I worry about Philly. I think Washington's going to go down a little bit.

I think this might be the year the Rangers fall off, maybe? And then what happens with Ottawa and Montreal and Carolina? I look at playoff series. Who's bad? Who's bad? Who are the Leafs in the East? Who are the Leafs clearly worse than? Like, clearly.

Okay, let me... I go Tampa. Probably Pittsburgh. Yes. Because they won the Cup? Definitely. Washington? I don't know if that's clear.

I don't think any more. Philly? I don't think so. Carolina? No. Rangers? No. Islanders?

No. Montreal? No. I don't think so. Ottawa? No. Like, all the teams I'm saying, I'm not saying the Leafs are better than, but they're at least even. Who else was in there?

Well, it's impossible to find the standings from last year at NHL.com, which I'm trying to pull up here. Not scared. New Jersey. Here we go. Detroit. Boston. By conference. Buffalo.

Buffalo. So, is Washington better than Toronto? I think it's even. I think Toronto could beat them. Is Pittsburgh better than Toronto? Toronto almost beat them last year. Is Pittsburgh better than Toronto? Yes.

I'm just running through them all. Columbus. Maybe. Oh, yeah, I forgot Columbus. Rangers. I don't think so. Montreal. I don't think so.

Ottawa. I mean, at least even. Boston. I think Toronto kills them in a series. Islanders. Toronto beats them. Tampa for sure. Philly.

Tampa's better. Philly, that's an even series. Carolina. Leafs probably beat them, but it's more even than you think. Panthers. They beat them. Detroit. Buffalo, New Jersey.

Killed them, killed them. New Jersey's getting better, but I don't think they're going to make the playoffs this year. Buffalo's interesting. I just don't know. I look at that conference and go, other than Detroit, who's bad? I just look at that and go, the Leafs are about, maybe, the third best team in the East. And that's all it takes That's all it takes man

Just get in Get in And magic happens Magic It's I'm just very excited To be a Leafs fan right now Apparently Detroit's still

Trying to Trying to shot Peter Morazic as well Jimmy Howard They're saying Jimmy Howard will be Their starter Next year

And also Interestingly What happened there They are I guess The goalie coach For the Montreal Canadiens Has said

The days of Carey Price Starting 65 games A year are done They want Al Montoya to start Or who do they have? It's Al Montoya, right? It's Al Montoya

They want him to do more than Whatever 19 games he played last year And Charlie Lindgren I mean, if If you're going to ride him Like crazy And then go into the playoffs like that too And then still depend on him to do everything

Kind of makes it Oilers should really go out and get a backup Who's their backup, by the way? Is it still Brassois? Like, they can't play Talbot 70 plus games And then the playoffs start. Roswa. That's not good enough.

But he's... Oh, he signed. Yeah, Roswa. That's not good enough. That's not... Unless he took a step, which how on earth could he have? He didn't play.

They started last season with Jonas Gustafsson as their backup. Remember that? I barely do now. I want to forget it. I just want to forget it all. Oh, I think they do. Yeah, that's not good enough.

Yeah, they could have done better. Especially... I mean, is Bernier re-signed yet? Colorado. Yeah. Ah, shoot. See, that's a guy I would have taken as a good backup in Edmonton. Maybe.

He got two million bucks. Like, you couldn't have signed a, like a, like a McElhinney, you know? Mm-hmm. Why not? Someone who's not Braswa. Like, at least let the kid play some games. Unless your plan is to let him play those games in the NHL next year, in which case, okay, fine, that's your choice.

I don't think you can play goalies 70 plus games And then depend on them in the playoffs Like Martin Brodeur I think that's done Watch them win anyway Even if Okay and this is

This is What makes arguments difficult Just because something worked once Doesn't make it the right choice Right Yeah You're not supposed to win cups the way the Bruins did You know

Being clearly outmatched And depending on your goalie Look the Bruins were still a good team But then a lot of people were like You know what yeah we're going to do it that way Didn't necessarily work The Canucks and the Leafs notably And you're supposed to win cups the way the Canucks were built

And it didn't work It's just friggin hockey man this damn sport These past playoffs made me say This damn sport More than any In recent memory That's why the first two rounds Are the greatest

They're just Yeah It's like a demolition derby Have you ever been to one of those Where they just They start out And there's like eight cars And they drive back and forth

And whatever car is Not smashed up The most At the end of it wins It's like short track speed skating Yeah it's nuts It's just crazy Short track speed

The fastest skater Does not matter No It's just who's standing At the end of the race They all freaking fall down It's my favorite thing In the Olympics

Because I'm like Ah who cares Who's the favorite? Doesn't matter Yeah, let's go Let's do the press conference I never know whether to put that Before or after the actual noise

Yeah, why do We have a noise for that Because you do it each time And we have it Like we have the noise It's been produced So I never know I figured you would just take my audio out

And then put the actual Or you can make it easy And just not Just not Can't even with you Aaron Simard Said Hi

Just wanted to say I love you Adam Okay thanks Well what's up Aaron Thank you When does that happen That's it Oh

That was it That was the entire message I thought I'd read It was very nice Appreciate it man Is it Well I don't know If it's a guy or a girl

So whoever you are Thank you Is it A-A-Ron A-A-Ron This is something I know nothing about so I think you guys can debate this Peeve the sheave wrote on reddit who would win in a fight Star Wars or Marvel No Star Wars

Lightsaber no are you kidding me mark? They have like superheroes though Yeah, you just have your regular Star Wars people are regular people No, you get the force and you force choke the shit out of every one of them though in them in the Star Wars universe The majority of people and fighters suck. The majority of them suck. But Jedi, same with the Marvel Universe. And you've got a few really good ones. Yeah, I guess you're right.

There's like five, six guys. But what are their powers? They jump and flip real good. They can force choke from a distance. And they have a sword that can cut through anything. But could Darth Vader's force overpower Thor or the Hulk? Yes. I don't know about that.

He can lift a fucking starship. Yeah, but what about the Hulk? You don't have Superman. No, because that's DC. See, now you're getting into shit I don't know. Well, it's Iron Man, Hulk, Thor. My nerd lines are very strange. Thor's a god, so Thor's a god.

Darth Vader is not better than God. You've got Ant-Man. You've got Spider-Man. You have Iron Man. You've got Black Widow and the guy with the bow and arrow, who's sort of boring. Iron Man is basically Star Wars. Yeah. No.

Star Wars is a spiritual thing. That force runs within you. Who's that guy? Iron Man is not Star Wars. Get out of here. Oh, you have Captain America. Yeah, he's on some roids, man. Do you have the X-Men?

Do you have all the X-Men? Are they Marvel? Isn't that an X-Men? No, I don't think it is. Yeah, Wolverine's the first guy right in front. You have all the X-Men. You can blow up Wolverine. The X-Men alone could beat Star Wars, couldn't they?

Oh, I don't think so. I don't think so, man. Like, we just need, we need like a, we need a, like a... Oh, the Fantastic Four would be tough. We need like a March Madness bracket. Like, could Gambit beat like Obi-Wan Kenobi? Like a March Madness bracket? No way, Gambit would get owned by Obi-Wan Kenobi.

Right, okay, so Obi-Wan makes it on. But how about Iron Man? Iron Man's just a suit, man. But it's a really good suit and he's an old Brock man. By our standards, the Star Wars universe is thousands of years ahead of us. Okay, so he beats him. Does he beat Thor? Does who beat Thor?

Obi-Wan Kenobi. That would be a tougher one because Thor has the hammer, and Thor is a god. And that's tough to beat. So no. So he smushes that old man. Thor wins that one. Okay. I think Thor isn't tough against Darth Vader.

The Flash against the Flash. Darth Maul. What is that? The dude with the double-sided. He's got the red and black face with the spikes on his head, and he's got the double life saver. Yes, you know him. Yes, he's just lying.

You know him. I literally don't. No, no, no. Don't even give him that. He knows exactly what we're talking about. I know Darth Vader. You know Darth Maul. The dude who's the bad guy.

And then there's another Darth. I had no idea. Maul. Yeah, there's tons of Darths. That's part of the whole Sith thing. Darth Sidious. I had no idea. I don't even know Star Wars well, and I know these names.

Yeah. I had no idea. Yeah. Like, okay, Magneto, like comic book Magneto, not old one from the movies. What's his name again? I don't know. The actor. Oh, my God, I'm so ashamed.

Ian McClellan? Yes, thank you. Ian McClellan? Magneto versus Qui-Gon Jinn. I think that'd be a fair matchup. Oh, it's Magneto. Shut up! Dude, you haven't seen Qui-Gon Jinn fight.

I've seen Qui-Gon Jinn fight. Okay, Qui-Gon Jinn versus Liam Neeson. He's trained by Yoda, man. He's trained by Dooku and Yoda. Who's the toughest guy in Star Wars? I would think Darth Vader. Okay. Because remember that Darth Vader was like left at the side of a volcano,

missing two legs and an arm, and they put him back together in that suit, right? Because he was Anakin Skywalker. Don't say it just like I know it. I literally don't know, Adam. As everyone knows, Luke Skywalker versus the Hulk. Luke Skywalker wins every time. Okay, so which one of those guys could be Darth Vader? Princess Leia versus Storm.

Ooh, Storm's pretty freaking ridiculous, right? She's got the, like, she can bring in a storm. She can bury you in snow. She can bring in a storm! Storm beats Darth Vader. But would he beat the baby deer saved by the golden retriever at the beach that might still die? No, are these all, that's true. You know, they both might still die.

What if one wins the fight but the other is mortally wounded? They might both still die. The superpowers It's tough I don't know Leave that one for Reddit And I'll get a bunch of comments About how someone hates me

Because they disagree with me Or whatever So we're just talking One on one battles What if it's four on four Oh four on four Would be sick You got

Somehow the The light And the dark Here's the one thing Teamed up So we got Darth Vader Luke Skywalker

Obi-Wan Kenobi And Darth Sidious Take on The Avengers Who wins Pretty Here's where I sit

The Avengers have the advantage In the sense that they Can do more things If you can combo them Like one on one I think Jedi are stronger But when you have Like Marvel

Like Avengers They each have their own strength That's different from Everybody else right Whereas Jedi are all Sort of the same Yeah You guys

Marvel has Groot I am Groot From Guardians of the Galaxy I think Groot wins Still haven't seen those movies Really good Really really good Steve

I saw Dunkirk I was good I went to the theater It was good You're supposed to see in IMAX though. I didn't see it in IMAX. I regret it. You're supposed to see in 75 millimeter IMAX. Uh, 70 Don't get ahead of yourself, Jesse Quentin Tarantino How's Game of Thrones, Steve?

Really good. There's the Hound He's all mad. How much do you hate yourself? Is this is this a question or are you just coming up with it? Is this from you or is it from Blake? Jesse. From Brendan from Sobeys. How much do you kick yourself for the Marlowe signing if Tavares becomes a UFA? If Tavares becomes a UFA,

they'll move heaven and earth to get him. I don't think the Leafs can afford him. Either way, man. If you've got Matthews, Nylander, and Marner, even without Marlowe, how do you afford Tavares as well? And is that Is that what you want

Do you know what I mean Like obviously you want Matthews Taveras Obviously So let's say Sorry what were you gonna say I was gonna say If you

Okay say you needed How much is it gonna take To sign Taveras Let's say it's 9 million I think it'd be 10 11 Okay Let's say 10

10 Make it a round number If you take Marlowe's contract away And you take JVR's contract away There is literally 10 million dollars

Yeah but No just those two guys Take Bozak Take Komarov And take JVR away Which they're all up next summer There's your money But then also Matthews, Nylander, Marner

So okay But next summer the only one you have to resign Is Nylander But the extra 6.2 To Marlowe Couldn't hurt Oh yeah you can make it work If you're the least you can find 6.2

I would trade Marlowe If you needed to trade Marlowe Yeah no movement Yeah, but you can get him to waive that If you can I would be like, here, take Marleau and my first round pick Because I want Tavares If you wanted him that badly

Just unload it I wouldn't quite do that, but there's stuff you can do I don't think I mean, man, I would love to have Tavares on the Leafs But I just don't see it happening I've never seen it happening I was just thinking How much would Matthews, re-signed

Tavares Marner and Nylander cost Because I think Tavares, or I think Matthews is going to be 10-11. The number I just came up with in my head, optimistically, is $35 million. For those four guys. For four. It's not too big. Not a four, but it's four.

35 on those four guys seems about right. I think what may hurt you is your Zach Hyman deals, your Connor Brown deals, your Nikita Zaitsev deals, those things that chip away. I think we're getting caught up in the details. Yeah, but you need a team. I know. I know. I know.

Not really when you have Taveras and Matthews Who cares who else is playing What other team do you need Whenever I had to do a fantasy draft In NHL 2001 Late in the draft I would get Patrick Schellberg And put him as my top line Left winger you know why

He had a hockey stick under his name Which meant he had a hard shot Cross crease pass bam Patrick Schellberg 55 goals Rocket Richard winner every year Peter Forsberg setting him up every time I don't think I honestly don't think Tavares is going to

leave the island even though it's not the island anymore it's Brooklyn I don't think he's leaving sort of that Carey Price thing where like

I don't think it made the most sense for him to resign there but you know the team who has enough money to sign you is most likely

the team that already has you right and he's already built this thing you're the captain of the team you're the face

of the franchise you got all these obligations Stamkos didn't do it I wonder if that factors in He's been hanging out with Crosby all summer Tavares?

Well in Nova Scotia anyway Arshon didn't leave Weber did But that's it And look at all that bullshit I don't think he's gonna leave But he might But he might not

But he might. Yeah, I don't think so. I look forward to talking about this for a year. Man. We could be like, you know what? The Leafs are heading into Game 7 of the Stanley Cup Final tonight, but first we need to talk about John Tavares' pending contract. And is he coming next year?

I just don't think he's going to, no. I don't see it. Any more questions? Nope. That's it. That's it. I wouldn't be able to handle life if the Leafs were in the Stanley Cup Final. You guys want some NHL 18 beta codes?

Yeah. Okay. Wow. We can talk afterwards Wait actually How do you have beta codes We can talk afterwards Alright

You said that like Hey kid I just got a Wanna buy a watch I just got a fun DM From a listener Who maybe wants to Sauce us some

Beta codes Yo this guy's totally Gonna hack our bank account Fun DMs are fun That's interesting We'll see I did not get that DM I'm upset

I'm angry I'm angry I am the one who gets free things Also No We are working on some names For the show We have two confirmed guests

Can we say who they are We just don't know when on them right No I do Steve has not told us No I told you one Gus Katsaros I forget the date on that That'll be in September And Gus is a scout and he works with McKeans

And what I'm excited about with that episode Is it'll be able to Scouting is like A mystifying thing Right I always find Like in scouting It's like

What do the scouts Actually do We had him on A long time ago And you weren't there That's right It was just me And Chris actually

So I want to I want to know Like what's it take To be a scout What is a scout What do they do What's the day to day When we

When we draft a guy Out of St. Andrews You know Obviously an NHL scout Saw the guy play How did that all work Well and so his His thing is

He's a pro scout Exactly So when it comes To the amateur stuff I'm not sure what he knows But I'm sure he'll He'll know Upon us what he knows

He'll know He's always He's very open and honest About what he does And doesn't know And then August 8th I've actually asked Mike Augello

Mike in Buffalo To join us Amazing He's got a really Interesting story And he's going to come in All the way from Buffalo To be on this show?

Yes So that's really good Wow There's a bunch of others There's at least One, two, three, four There's about half a dozen That have agreed to come on

But we don't have Confirmed dates So I don't want to tell you Who they are In case they don't come on Because a few of them Actually agreed to come on Last summer

And then we couldn't figure out a date so they never came on right so we're working on that yeah and until then thank you so much for listening we will be back next week

that's a long weekend yet not this week I don't think so every day is a long weekend for you in the summer right yeah yeah oh and I'll make a video about this soon but

I've started writing my book and I've already said that and I'm really gonna like start hammering it next couple weeks I want to get like several dozen thousand words written

if there's anything you want me to put in there anything you can think of any questions you have let me know all right thanks so much for listening uh we will talk to you next week follow the guys on twitter at steve underscore dangle at adam w y l d e and at jesse blake the steve dangle podcast brought to you by panago pizza order at panago.com and stuff your face with deliciousness today uh we're going to say goodbye to lincoln park's chester bennington so if you haven't heard the lincoln park singer uh took his own life this morning at his house in los angeles he struggled with drugs and alcohol for years and of course mostly the root cause which

is often just depression and anxiety he's spoken openly openly about having suicidal thoughts before in interviews and uh and in his music and he was uh he says you know one of the things that caused it was abuse by an older man when he was much younger. But, you know, Chester and Lincoln Park on the whole took that pain and took that anguish and turned it into an escape for the rest of us. And those of us who felt those same awful feelings, like we all do from time to time, and maybe we couldn't understand them or articulate them in that same way, they could. And we got that through them. And today I think we've lost one of our generation's greats. Now, If you're like me, you grew up with Linkin Park.

You know how special they were. They went to places, like I just said, with their music that society pretended just didn't exist or didn't want to talk about. But beyond that, Chester was a loving husband and a father to six, who he was often taking photos with and goofing around with. And he was also very close with Chris Cornell, who recently took his life as well. And actually, Chester sang at Chris's funeral. And this seems like an extremely dark twist, but I think we ought to bring it up. Today would have been Chris Cornell's 53rd birthday.

Now, it's amazing to me that one disease, one that so many of us struggle with, can make someone who's loved by millions of people feel alone enough to take their own life. And it shows us the disease's power, and it shows us we've still got a long way to go in fighting it, but we are fighting it. And it's a good time to mention this.

If you're feeling alone, there's no shame in that. If you're feeling down for days, for weeks, for months with no end, that's not your fault. And it does not need to be normal for you. If you feel like you're not loved, you so are loved. Anyone for help. Depression is a pernicious and nasty disease and it touches us all. And you don't have to be alone anymore in fighting it. So anyway, with all of that out of the way, I just want to say we want to help you.

We all want to help each other, and people like Chester Bennington, like Chris Cornell, like the millions of them before, they didn't die in vain. We are fighting this together. So I want to play this for you because Chester actually came to Kiss in March and recorded a beautiful stripped-down version of Linkin Park's latest single, Heavy For Us. We're going to play that for you now in his memory. Thank you for listening.