The Steve Dangle Podcast - Piñata | February 17, 2023

Episode Date: February 18, 2023

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Howard Dean's PEEEAAAWWWWWW (00:00), Patrick Kane doesn't show up to play the Leafs (11:00), You Can Bet That with Sports Interaction (30:00), ROOSSSSSS BA...WSTON (40:00), John Tortorella refuses to give the media anything (49:00), is it time for the Calgary Flames to fire Darryl Sutter? (55:00), does Bella Hadid actually eat pizza all the time? (1:12:00), catch our NBA All-Star Weekend content! (1:15:00), Adam's F1 corner (1:20:00), and shoutout Connor Ingram shutout (1:26:00). Recorded: February 17, 2023 Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://help.sportsinteraction.com/hc/en-us/articles/216779528-Responsible-Gaming-Self-Limitation-Self-Exclusion Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Ontario Only. Must be 19+ or older to play. Visit this episode's sponsors: https://sportsinteraction.com/sdpn onepeloton.ca/home-trial https://linkedin.com/sdp Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Steve Dangle Podcast, powered by Sports Interaction. Wanna bet? Spank Andy. Woo! S. D. P. P.
Starting point is 00:00:12 The Steve Dangle Podcast, with your hosts, Steve Dangle, Adam Wilde, and Jesse Blake. Let's go! Well, hello, and happy Friday. Hi. Hi. Woo! Lots going on. Woo!
Starting point is 00:00:26 Friday! Let's go! Woo! Yeah, boy! Who's that politician? Howard Dean. Howard Dean was going to be voted into the Senate or something.
Starting point is 00:00:53 Then he had a speech and he was like and nobody voted for him. During the Democratic primaries, he was like decently favored to be their nominee. I can't remember. This is like 2005 or something. Oh, it was years and years and years ago. And then he lost. But to the crowd in attendance, he tried to give them this rousing speech.
Starting point is 00:01:14 We're next time. We're going to take Iowa and Delaware and Michigan. And he just starts ramping up and naming all the states. And then we're going to take the White House. And then he goes, yeah. Can we please bring that up? We have to play this. You don't know this?
Starting point is 00:01:29 No, I've never seen this. Oh, my God. This is 2004, Howard Dean. And then Dave Chappelle did a sketch about it on the original Dave Chappelle show, which was fucking almost 20 years ago now. Whoa. Yeah. Whoa.
Starting point is 00:01:42 No, Howard Dean. I've never heard of this. Crazy man. Here we go. You definitely have. But we were in high school. Here we go. Well.
Starting point is 00:01:50 Are we going to get banned for playing CNN footage? You have already got the picture here. How long is this? It's a minute. I was about to say, you know, I'm sure there's some disappointed people here. You know what? You know something? You know something?
Starting point is 00:02:05 Watch. If you had told us one year ago that we were going to come in third in Iowa, we would have given anything for that. And you know something? You know something? Not only are we going to New Hampshire, Tom Harkin, we're going to South Carolina and Oklahoma and Arizona and North Dakota and New Mexico.
Starting point is 00:02:24 and we're going to California and Texas and New York and we're going to South Dakota and Oregon and Washington and Michigan and then we're going to Washington D.C. to take back the White House that was like one of the original memes that I ever knew from the internet
Starting point is 00:02:46 that's got to be like Ebon's world 2004 I remember watching it when I was 12 and it was a meme on the internet yeah that's from the i hate i hate that my brain works this way that's from the year ovechkin and malkin were drafted wow howard dean going after losing so yeah tried to and it instantly became this what is wrong with this man clip and he lost favor like instantly yeah instantly like just plummeted down i think uh uh i do think that there could be like daniel tosh tried to do it
Starting point is 00:03:22 and his show was actually pretty funny tosh point out yeah yeah um but there needs to be more shows just on internet culture just flat out like flat out like it like i know like cream is it cream star or something like that that guy does the he does like the blog i don't know his name i don't fucking know team star okay whatever you don't watch mtv then mtv is just ridiculousness oh isn't that yeah that's all they show 24 7 yeah it's just the It's the Rob Dyrdek network now, right? And that's kind of all they do, right? It's just these internet things that are funny.
Starting point is 00:03:55 Adam, why are you disrespecting the TV loop at Jack Astor's like this? Also that! The TV loop at Jack Astor's is Rob Dyrdek? Yeah, when you get the beer and cheddar soup and the chicken fingers because you're afraid to try anything else in the menu
Starting point is 00:04:11 because you love what you love. Right? And then you watch people ride a toboggan off a thing that they shouldn't. for about 45 minutes and then you leave yeah the thing about jack asters too is those tvs like the clips on it are so aggressive that you almost have a hard time talking to the person with who's there you're there with like it's it's it's the same thing that you did with that tiktok that steve intentionally wanted to go viral where it's like i'm going to say something obnoxious but also you
Starting point is 00:04:38 see on the tiktok that there's like a video game playing so it catches your eye and keeps you there i find it jack asters people either on their phones or they're watching they're watching the screen but like you can't talk to someone else because there's so many fucking screens or the chalk drawing that really rubs your face in hey here's the donkey's ass we got ass in the
Starting point is 00:04:58 name and that's what we named our restaurant and you brought your kids that said I do like Jack Astor I love Jack Astor I'm waiting for us to get there Jack Astor is unbelievable chicken fingers pad thai baby Adam has something that might be a hot take
Starting point is 00:05:14 But he thinks the pad thai is delicious A lot of people disagree with him But he's not wrong Is it a complete abomination Of what pad thai actually is Oh yes I will eat the shit out of it It's not pad thai but whatever it is
Starting point is 00:05:30 Is delicious Remember last time I said I married my co-host Basically you and my wife are the same person She got pad thai She knows Underrated jackass are unbelievable uh sauce up chicken fingers or what everybody seems like oh yeah fun fact jesse and this is before we knew you uh steve and uh mrs dangle's engagement party was at the jack
Starting point is 00:05:52 asters on front street no it was on the upper floor when you and producer chris yeah basically gave me a job interview for the original steve dangle podcast where was it uh it was at the jack asters on front street but no so there's the front street west one which is down by the arena And there's the Front Street East one, which is where they had Which is near Cabbage Town, not Cabbage Town, sorry St. Lawrence Market, that's where you had your engagement party So two different Front Street Jackassers You had your engagement party at Jackassers
Starting point is 00:06:19 Yeah, we met at Jackassers Pre-show meeting for this show, can you imagine? In May of 2013, I want to say 2013 Yeah, because it was 10 years ago No, May of 2013 was the first episode, I think it was like April I want to say the Leafs were still in the playoffs Did you make Chris walk to that meeting?
Starting point is 00:06:37 Or did he get a drive? Well he didn't have a car but I don't think I picked him up So he might have taken the subway Oh so it's been a thing You guys just disrespecting people That's your MO I think he might not have needed hand holding To get there
Starting point is 00:06:51 And had the communication skills of an adult No clearly I didn't I got there on my own I was left to my own devices Every once in a while I'll see Somebody tweet something on like who's a Member of the network or one of the hosts or something like that And then one of our listeners will be like
Starting point is 00:07:08 are you sure about that? And then it's just a picture of the three of us, but I have a gun and I'm pointing a gun at them. I'm like, how did that become a meme? Yeah. It's like just me with a gun. When did that happen?
Starting point is 00:07:20 You know, sometimes art mimics life. No. I'm pretty sure someone made it when you forced Andrew Berkshire to do Game Over with COVID. I never forced Andrew to do that. Andrew was, Andrew was like,
Starting point is 00:07:37 no, I'm still going to do it. And we were like, andrew you're probably like this is when there was one game over and it was just montreal and we're like andrew you probably shouldn't he's like no no i got it i got it and he gets on the air and he's just he's covet sweats man and he but he did it and he did a full hour and he's just like by himself i unbelievable see if you can find it see if you can figure out which one it was but last winter around this time i did uh watch a leafs game with steve dangle
Starting point is 00:08:01 with covet and at the beginning of it i'm like this isn't so bad and by the end of the game i was like i should have never agreed to do this i know i don't understand why you did that that was dumb um that was dumb and the most important thing with andrew and andrew and adam sorry coming up this saturday oh that's right andrew gets his revenge tomorrow okay so so you're part of it so the leafs uh the leafs really let me down at the beginning of the season you want to know why i was so upset at them after that first week well i'll tell you because andrew's like hey adam let's make a bet uh and if you lose you got to do the hot ones challenge and so i was like okay uh he's like a leafs habs bet and he was gonna let me have like who wins the season series or whatever
Starting point is 00:08:44 and i was like no if the leafs lose a single game against the habs and they lost the first fucking game that's just you wanting to eat spicy food no i don't like that's not fair they play them four times the leafs need to do better than that i agree you can't be losing the first game against the habs and also or ever the way they lost that first game too how was that can you tell me what you remember that game of course you do it was pretty back and forth leafs tied it i want to say with uh two and a half minutes to go as a kneelander goal i want to say it was an exciting game and then they just completely blew it with like 17 seconds left that's right that's right now i think it was josh anderson so game over montreal this saturday night me and andrew
Starting point is 00:09:24 hot ones challenge so uh after live after the game live after game right after youtube.com slash sdpn you're gonna be doing the hot ones challenge with andrew burke that's right pretty that's right now fun with that we uh how many toilets this house have uh more than one great thank my wife you're gonna get through it i mean i don't think i have a choice do i yeah like if you if you bowed out because you can't handle no you can be a spicy food i really like you can be a weakling like ricky gervais did he bow out no he he was like yeah i'll do hot ones but only if i have like non-spicy things and it's like do you not know what hot ones is i respect the celebrities who went on there and essentially died well idris elba is the funniest
Starting point is 00:10:09 like what the fuck yeah key and peel oh um shacks is very funny the look at us meme paul rudd oh that's where that's very funny no ricky gervais is like he had franks and it's like ricky did you see the paul rudd interview after the super bowl because he's a chiefs fan the one with his son yes who's exactly like him who sounds and looks and has the same mannerisms as him who is paul rudd he's 30 years younger paul rudd yeah which is weird because paul rudd is 30 years younger paul rudd man paul rudd is in his 50s and people don't realize no he might be 18 paul rudd yeah yeah yeah he's looked the same since clueless it's fucking ridiculous unbelievable ridiculous that guy and now he's like oh i want to be a marvel star the he's ant-man uh uh now it was
Starting point is 00:10:53 rumored by the way that the toronto maple leafs are acquiring ant-man the toronto maple leafs at minus 600 to minus 650 depending upon where you looked were the other night the biggest favorite in nhl history i thought they were losing for sure third it turned out to be the third biggest colorado was a negative 680 versus arizona on january 14th 2022 and colorado was a negative like uh yeah negative 700 versus montreal in january 22nd 2020 so that's like if you bet if you're two dollars steve you're gonna get back like what four cents yeah five yeah so so the least were the third biggest favorite and i and i i read that before the game and i thought fuck if i hadn't read that tweet now we're fine i know i know i thought they were gonna be fine
Starting point is 00:11:40 and then i read that and i'm like maybe not i bet the blackhawks to win by three plus goals i think it's 51 to 1 or somewhere i think in the high 40s or 50 what did you put down though i put five bucks five bucks because it would have been it would have been hilarious i just don't operate retired at your level like i just don't operate it jesse i keep it at two dollar i also two dollars steve two dollars steve um sometimes on player props i do one there you go I so so the first play which the Leafs score nine seconds into the game and I thought the funniest tweet right after that was JD Bunker saying I can't believe Kyle Dubas gave Peter Mrazik a three-year contract dude which it is has to be that has to be the worst signing
Starting point is 00:12:24 of Kyle Dubas's career by far like Nick Ritchie was pretty bad worse way worse it was way worse and I gotta say at least he got out from under both of them and Nick Ritchie's actually good uh you gotta be good on a good team okay and i'm sorry that's a good point that's a good point i'm sorry it matters um like the bruins ditched them the leafs ditched them and then like and then he's done since leaving the leafs with the new york rangers he's good on a good team he's good on a good team that's when i'm i'm backing you up kyle dubas also gave cody cc 4.5 million dollars he had to though because it was no he didn't kyle dubas also gave sean matthias uh 2.3 million dollars that was when he that's when he was the assistant gm with mark hunter and running
Starting point is 00:13:11 the team sean matthias was a good trade deadline trade yeah they got uh they got a second round pick or something they got how am i bringing this player up for the second consecutive show they got colin smith for him oh oh okay all right no that i think that's a uh dubas signing yeah because he was uh gm since april 2015 and that's a uh summer yes but that was free that's half true he's been gm since 2018 and there was one summer where he and mark hunter were like co-gm yeah he was interim gm from april to july you know you don't count that i mean sure but they were their goals at that point were very different and sean matthias was not a bad player he was a player that you He was like a Dan Winnick.
Starting point is 00:13:56 You knew you were going to trade. You were going to sign him to trade him. Someone wanted him. So we're only counting post-2018. The 2015 summer is a great arguing point for Leaf fans because everything good they did was dubious. Everything bad they did. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:14:15 Mark Hunter. That was Hunter. Yeah, for sure. Definitely a Mark Hunter move. Definitely a Mark Hunter move. For sure. um i think uh um so so that first goal that william neilander goal nine seconds into the game the leafs are notoriously bad starters but that was a play that was set up by matthews on
Starting point is 00:14:32 his own and he he took willie aside before the game started and he said this is what we're going to do and they executed and he scored and a player who were incapable of complimenting with the dart up the middle morgan riley oh yeah i mean so he but this is the thing so so they asked sheldon keith about it and like sheldon like how do you feel about players coming up with their own plays and he's like i love it he's like this is what you want you want players looking after themselves they do it all the time and that i just thought that was sick they're like they drew it up right before the game and they executed and make that made it happen it's awesome i i mean hockey players are uh i i know the stereotype of them they're extraordinarily smart at hockey
Starting point is 00:15:13 brilliant and um i remember i again there's something wrong with me i don't know why i remember this but the leafs fourth goal in their four nothing win over the penguins which was the game before the david ayers game i was there and you know how you usually watch a leaf game after the goal was scored eric lindros turned to me and he said oh that's a set play and he walked me through the whole thing oh wow and i was just like this is a very silly moment thank Thank you, Eric Lindros, for that information. I guess you just, unless you're like a coach, you probably don't realize how many of those plays are set plays.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Like, the obvious ones are power play and penalty kill. You know, right? Well, and like, how many of them are dares also? Like, you're telling me Philip Heedle in that game, the Leafs-Rangers game where he scored off the faceoff? Definitely, he'd been talking about that at practice with his teammates like you know what one day i'm just gonna i'm just gonna and they're like no you won't no you won't no you won't and and then and now we're in toronto i'm gonna i'm
Starting point is 00:16:18 gonna do it i'm gonna do it watch i'm gonna do holy shit he did it it worked and he was a hero on the on the bench that day but reading the tweet from ben pope by the way ben pope cst was the one that tweeted about how it was one of the most lopsided uh betting games ever the um the goal that chicago scored less than a minute later sam lafferty and of course it had to be sam lafferty dude the stars were out to play it was jake mccabe fell down on the first goal and then sam lafferty who may actually take cali yarn croak's job took the putt from cali yarn croak and scored now there isn't a whole lot to draw from a game like that and even keep said afterwards he's like ah but here's one thing i would say yeah if you were worried about patrick kane coming to toronto
Starting point is 00:17:04 don't because if he was trying to audition to come here uh that was a perfect game as to why you cannot acquire him he had one semi-good play the whole game he was god-awful defensively you could tell he's injured and the Leafs have done this we've we've seen this movie we don't need to go and get an injured player he's he's yes he's still Patrick Kane and yes it's a bad team but he was terrible on the ice he has no mobility it the more I think about it the more it does make sense for him to just resign there next year get that hip surgically repaired and then get traded next year there was a play where he decided you know what i'm just gonna gronk it like i'm just gonna uh use my speed to beat the defender like he's done a thousand times throughout his nhl
Starting point is 00:17:49 career and he almost did it but timothy lilligren just escorted him into the corner like he was helping a senior citizen across the street like here you go no this way patrick and you never know maybe he gets traded and he wins the stanley cup it wouldn't be the first time in his career uh but that game was you have to follow the chicago writers and like leave fans if you're going to talk about um all the players the blackhawks have who could potentially come to toronto you got to follow them and mark lazarus i think it was was talking about just the the mental impact of being on a team this shit and this very obviously getting demolished and i don't mean demolished on the ice they're demolishing the roster right extending patrick
Starting point is 00:18:40 kane getting some sort of patrick kane answer might actually like propel them forward or at least have them feeling better about themselves and playing a little bit better but right now i mean why try what's the point other than you're auditioning for uh other teams but like you have to go out there and sacrifice your body and kill it for your team that night and the blackhawks just can't do it right now even though there's no evidence to suggest that dubas wants patrick kane at all and that he doesn't see exactly what we see in that he's probably not a fit here and you can't and you wouldn't pay like a big price for him or anything there seems to be a certain faction of media and fans that are kind of like trying to publicly will it to happen and people
Starting point is 00:19:32 keep being like oh can't you draw okay even though there's no evidence that they're even like thinking about it listen at the beginning of the season um it was presented as something that could happen and last season if i'm not mistaken he had 92 points uh he has three cups he has a heart trophy all of that stuff made sense at the beginning of the season he's having a terrible season i'm talking about yeah i'm talking about now all that stuff made sense when you're like oh the matthews king connection is real we all know that i talked that's his that's that was his idol growing up you know of course he wants to play with them right now it's not there i talked to a lot of people and they're like listen you know it's it's the big move it's dubious's last
Starting point is 00:20:16 year potentially it's all in chips on the table and that was a sexy storyline at the beginning of the season it's not right now no it made so much sense in september he's not even the best forward available no i don't think he's particularly close to the best forward available the way he is playing now uh is this the end of his career look at eric carlson obviously not right i had no idea carlson had this left in him based on i don't know like the last two years yeah worth of evidence that he was cooked and then you know enough time passes and it turns out he's not so good he's gonna win the north trophy yeah it's unreal just man i don't know if you have this for later in the show i if the oilers get him i think they win the cup
Starting point is 00:21:06 and i kind of think they need to get in on it well i think they will i think cj's been talking about that like where uh uh yeah but don't talk about it do it they seem to be the the dance partner and and you know what the sharks need to get this done as bad as the oilers do because um what if eric carlson goes back to last year's eric carl turns right back into a pumpkin yeah you never know but the the cane to toronto thing it doesn't make sense and i think the leafs uh general manager staff is too smart to do it and i think we need to stop pushing it as a fan meyer is better he is bigger he is tougher he is cheaper he is a restricted free agent one thing that 32 thoughts did talk about was potentially tyler bertuzzi and i wondered i wondered if he's the
Starting point is 00:21:50 cheaper timo meyer oh i don't want the cheaper timo meyer i want timo meyer you do so you you are fully on the timo meyer thing i've been on the timo meyer train since like before since like at least christmas so like okay so now okay i know you want timo meyer and i know you mentioned it before christmas you did do that but but my i think my question more along the lines of what's you know i'm not uh i'm not i'm not stupid i know that it's not exactly realistic so uh and people are like somebody sent me actually a roster of what the lease would look like with timo meyer it doesn't include um michael bunting and people are like oh you you got meyer what like you know you can re-sign meyer this offseason oh and then and then move on
Starting point is 00:22:38 like what why can't we go one step at a time like why is everybody so focused on july 1st like let's let's do it now and then play the rest of the season figure out the playoffs and then worry about if you need to sign two who the fuck cares you want to cut yeah why are we talking about july and resigning a dude when they don't even have them yet like man live some life like you've never had your car break down you've never found 20 in the coat like you've traded michael bunting for a guy that they haven't traded no no no it's it's it's as in like if they were to retain him and i think the tweet that was sent to me in fairness was because we did talk about it last episode about like can you resign meyer sure and i said you could and he said actually you could
Starting point is 00:23:16 but but then it didn't have bunting and i'm like ah that's okay like if you've mired like no offense to bunting i love him but it is a it's a definite upgrade yeah like cj has alluded to this but like let's say the leafs are out by the end of april the following two months are going to be like some of the wildest two months in the franchise's recent history yeah we're talking you could have a president gone you could have a gm gone you could have a coach gone several players matthew's extension or not so the extension there comes a point where you're talking about a michael bunting extension you're like oh this doesn't really apply because the entire world leafs world could change in a couple months yeah it's yeah it's just not the thing right now um i'm in on meyer
Starting point is 00:23:59 um uh frege mentioned on the recent most recent 32 thoughts the idea of uh getting more than one player from the same team where'd you get that frege i'm tired of 32 lifting from our our show tired of it sick of it no uh but uh you know potentially getting more than one player from the blues yeah and take your pick of two of barbachev o'reilly and achari um i mean we know they're not satisfied with their bottom six they've been real fidgety with that so you know that could make some sense um and it would make the team better but it's not as fun and exciting as team o'meara yeah yeah uh there is uh devil's fans are circulating something i'm going to send it to you jesse oh it's a good tweet or it's a good shirt you can buy actually buy it
Starting point is 00:24:49 um can you yeah you can buy it you can purchase this shirt this shirt is going to arrive after he's dealt to not the devils or to the devils and they win the cup and i look stupid i think um uh yeah it's it's it's a really it's a good one um i will get it up on the screen in a second but basically it says give me fuel give me fire give me timo fucking meyer i absolutely love that what a great shirt it's perfect um i better see a stadium full of that shit especially if they get them especially well yeah so i'm making fun of them because this won't be delivered until after they don't get them but what if they do and then it's the number one selling shirt in hockey oh yeah yeah yeah it's a devil should sell this with the word fucking like they really should
Starting point is 00:25:41 yeah embrace the fact that you're the devil you know what i mean like lula amorello uh doesn't match all the juror uh the new jersey stereotypes he brought them success but like no we need a little jersey sure yeah i want their gm to wear an excessive amount of chains rings and have hair like a dragon ball z character i like it that's that's what i want to see i like it um did you see enough out of jake mccabe there to to get anything other than you know ignoring the first goal like people fall it i mean yeah he fell um i liked him um i thought he made a really good play on the second blackhawk school uh first minute of the second period um i don't i don't know if bunting made the right choice on the play he gives it to kneelander and mccabe is right
Starting point is 00:26:36 there or maybe he was forced into making a poor play mccabe plays nylander really well then he's able to set up kurashev kurashev goes in and scores a goal so but like again the leafs aren't evaluating the good or the bad in that game should we be doing the same for the blackhawks i don't know i mean i think you got to look at i definitely think you should yeah like if patrick kane had come in and been a standout and he'd scored a couple goals you bet your ass it would have been all over sportsnet and tsn everybody be like well patrick kane toronto sure looks good but they're gonna have to give up 50 first round picks to get them i think it was the matthews goal i didn't go into ourselves by the way with the trade 100 i didn't go in on this in the lfr
Starting point is 00:27:18 because he was so invisible but patrick kane like just he wasn't trying no he wasn't trying in the defensive end and that's been a criticism of him through analytics and people go yeah but he's Patrick Kane he does all this crazy stuff but when you see it when you see it and you're able to pinpoint an individual play of him just like floating you hear floating all the time but there he is actually floating yeah yeah it wasn't a great audition someone who also also kind of disappeared was uh Max Domi just kind of wasn't noticeable you know for your first line center you don't kind of I think you have like two shots kind of just running around didn't really make any any damage i don't even know if he's a center on a contender and he's their number one yeah he's
Starting point is 00:28:07 probably you'd probably throw him on a middle of the lineup wing he's like he's sort of like a where like i don't know you can or you can't it's up to you like however carolina utilized him last season was probably the best way everyone get ready to roll your eyes and groan and prepare of yourselves i thought sam lafferty had a good game i did he's a lot of good yeah that's fine uh i uh i i'm actually the one thing i do want to talk about after we talk to dave here in just a minute is uh i cannot believe that we basically had a deal ready to go uh between the kings and the coyotes and chikrin is still not an la king i think it got out there and i think the kings are pissed and i think that deal ain't uh happening at least is that based on anything you've heard
Starting point is 00:28:59 yep oh so the deal's not gonna happen now uh i know that's not what i was told but i think the kings are mad i think they're mad because because the coyotes did probably what i said last episode which is hey anybody else want up this i think the kings are mad and they may be in a cool down period before going back at it i have a hard time believing chikrin doesn't end up being a king because again the trades that don't happen i always say how do you go from being prepared to give up your future for chikrin to ah we just we won't get them right pride oh we'll go out and get edmondson or gavercott those aren't the same player what are you talking about so i think they'll get them but i think rob blake is pissed is rob blake or luke robitaille both but yeah it's
Starting point is 00:29:46 The management crew. Yeah, they're pissed. I think they're pissed. Okay. Let's get into the, let's get into You Can Bet That with Dave. You Can Bet That
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Starting point is 00:30:06 because who are the Leafs play tomorrow, guys? Montreal. Who they've only beaten. That's right. Now we have a big celebration today. Dave, tell us about, first what we're going to be talking about.
Starting point is 00:30:17 This is very important at Sports Interact. Yeah, we have an exclusive pinata pick for the Canadiens Toronto Maple Leafs game. So here's how it works. Fantastic odds. You basically play the pinata and you get a time. So if your time is
Starting point is 00:30:33 the first goal of the hockey game, you win at 50-1, which is incredible odds. You're hitting me! Anybody listening, Adam just pulled out an actual pinata and a baseball bat and a baseball oh my god
Starting point is 00:30:48 you can't swing the baseball bat here there's not enough room so you have to cross check like you're Shea Weber against the Leafs don't swing that too hard I'm gonna use this end no no just cross check Austin Matthews against Rasmus Darlene oh my god get it harder oh my god it went here
Starting point is 00:31:11 just rip it super good give me the candy there's no candy in this oh i forgot to put candy in it sorry guys what happened are you kidding actually nobody told me i was supposed to put candy in it i thought there was candy well i thought they came with candy oh you stink you stink i thought pinatas came with candy but you i think you usually have to fill them out there i don't know nobody told me you ruined my birthday dad sorry but i did use one of my skate laces for this i want you to know oh did you use my wax skate laces dave what else do we have on the on the side yeah there was no candy we have we have a ton of stuff going on of course
Starting point is 00:31:53 under dangles doozies we have props galore for that canadians matchup let me let me circle it on one while i'm trying not to laugh at this um josh anderson to score on saturday night is paying 350 for a yes guaranteed that's honestly 12 career goals against the league it's a guarantee well guarantee i'm just saying yeah there are some picks where i say oh that's a donation you're just donating to sports interaction no you're donating to the fan yeah you can you can donate to two dollars steve incredible uh so you can check that all out at sports interaction.com slash sdp it or you know download the app the qr codes there what i've never been more disappointed my entire life no one told me to get candy i was set up to fail i was set up to fail
Starting point is 00:32:44 how dare everyone you didn't jail all of you the three of you and everybody else why would i jiggle it it's a pinata gin of candy in it i i didn't know this was happening so i don't know how i'm supposed to help you okay 50 to 1 is a lot better than candy 50 to 1 is a lot better that's right so much less disappointing that's yeah all right dave have a great weekend we understand that you are traveling and going to see the jets on the road this weekend so enjoy my friend we'll see you next week i feel like that went well yeah i feel good about that that was probably the worst segment we've ever done no no every single level no adam no brought a pinata and there was no candy in it that's fantastic content i'm sorry guys nobody nobody
Starting point is 00:33:39 gave me the heads up there wasn't candy you didn't feel it no man i got other stuff to do i'm not walking around shaking a pinata at home did you hold it in your hands at any moment i had it in a bag i'm gonna this is your fault i'm gonna beat you up this is your fault look at it i'm looking at it look at it what's in there it's water and what's what else is in there uh shame what else is in there oh it's piñata there is piñata in my water and my water is now gross well what what that's what you get oh man uncovered water in a studio imagine if it was a mic sock imagine that it's so gross imagine that what you what you thirsty also like okay that bad is terrifying also it's a good bat this was very when you were swinging it it was very terrifying
Starting point is 00:34:25 yeah well yeah you're like cross-checking i'm like i'm not gonna be able to break it yeah but you can't swing it in here i'm sitting here you're gonna knock a mic knock me in the face there's like a tv behind you i bought that i assembled that by the way i bought that and play it again sports for four dollars because jesse started a softball team in the in october 2020 and we got to play one game and then toronto shut down all outdoor activities and The softball league Wouldn't refund our money Yeah so they just fucking bounced
Starting point is 00:34:54 They said it'll sit in your account And you can use it for another team sport You can reuse it to play again in our league And I'm like but we all just don't want to play anymore Because COVID's going to be going on for another Year So our money's just gone I think the company like rebranded anything
Starting point is 00:35:11 It's gone We're never getting that couple hundred bucks back For our team fee and we played one game It was brutal We had a good game though something yeah we had a good game we lost but we had fun yeah jesse and i fucking cleaned up yeah we went back to back home runs crushing crushing it three four in the lineup good we had a good team yeah we did i'm glad about your baseball team but something just occurred to me yeah
Starting point is 00:35:34 were people able to see the pinata oh uh no because uh dave is on the screen so there's probably uh dave's probably blocking like the fun parts of the pinata part yeah we'll we'll play it back here let's see how much play um i think this goes into the none of us knew this was happening part of it and that nobody was prepared jesse nobody nobody saw the piñata no here we'll watch it back hold on it looks like i'm beating up the television it looks like you're hitting dave with a bat now people are gonna know that dave's not really on the tv oh no oh yeah so that's people can't see oh wow it's actually just covered the whole thing yeah it looks like oh you get it swings oh that's just terrible wow oh there we go okay we saw i nailed that i got a good swing
Starting point is 00:36:30 i got a good oh my god dave's like i don't know what to do with these people and dave has no idea and you know who this was great for half the audience that listens you know that's great i wanted to get the sound on there too and you could hear it you could hear it oh my god what a catastrophe um this is from a worse worst segment we've ever done uh original sin 33 i'm not sure if you brought this up but the entire atlantic division has a winning record over the last 10 games played wow the bruins are six three and one the leafs are six three and one the lightning are six two and two the panthers five four and one sabers six three and one uh red wings seven three and oh senator seven three and oh canadians five four and one wow holy crap that's an eight team
Starting point is 00:37:15 division i have to tell you wow uh straight up don't tell me that divisional matchups are a good thing right away in the first round we're gonna fight you're you're killing all the good fucking teams man wow and yes i'm a leafs homer but come on you know there are some people who disagreed with us when we were like the atlantic is a beast and the east is better than the west i'm sure you can find anybody on the internet to say anything all right you really can't you know that is that is steve's rule the other thing i want to throw out there is i'm not sure if you saw this but um there is a ross boston youtube video and i'm just so steve people are too goddamn fast this is so funny so explain ross boston for people that might have missed last
Starting point is 00:38:00 okay so we were talking about loading up and uh like for the leafs and um uh do you go all in this year or are the bruins just too good and you wait for next year because hopefully next year the bruins aren't as good right except we hope for that every year and it just never seems to happen right right like this year the bruins were supposed to take a bit of a step backward even though it's sort of a last dance vibe because i don't know they're old and shit they got some old parts and you know the all that stuff not so much then we talked about next year how like okay let's say crazy retires and bergeron retires and okay like they're basically designed to take a step backward next year except next year they're probably going to sign some college free agent
Starting point is 00:38:48 named ross boston who's going to score 70 goals and we laughed about this very made up not real person someone made a full season of this made up not real person named ross well i said in the in our discussion i was like if somebody had a bopro of ross boston i would binge watch the hell out of that and then g20 who is an nhl uh streamer on youtube 20 000 subs yeah yeah he he made it the first episode of ross boston it's over 12 minutes long and it was uploaded like less than 24 hours after the episode came out. Oh, yeah, play the... Yeah, it's good.
Starting point is 00:39:27 It's good. Here we go. Ross Boston, who's going to fucking score 70 goals and win the Selkie, and it's going to be the most frustrating thing of all time.
Starting point is 00:39:39 Oh, the Stanley Cup of Ross Boston! Yeah, Ross Boston! He's going to bring his fucking cup back to Boston. It's going to be so frustrating. I would binge watch the hell out of a B.O. Pro career of Ross Boston. Yeah. Pricey pond hockey you got going there.
Starting point is 00:39:54 Welcome to Rosten, baby. The Boss Rosten Career... The Boss... The Ross Boston Career Mode is here, and if you couldn't tell by that fantastic name, we are going to be doing an Enforcer Vita Pro finally on the channel. It's been requested for a hot minute,
Starting point is 00:40:12 and you know what? The Steve Nagle Podcast, man, they came up with a hilarious name, and it just sparked a light. I went into the phone booth, I put my suit on, and here I am, baby, here to save the day ross boston career mode we're doing it we gotta man let's just pick a
Starting point is 00:40:25 face like i'm not trying to spend too long creating this guy did the one thing we do need though is a massive stash oh yeah let's go with a joe fuller you already know you already know this is a pure enforcer we're not we're not doing anything i'm not oh no no no no big shoulder pads we got to knock some heads baby hey ea can we have the oven mitts back seriously can we have the oven mitts i would love to have that that should be my next gimmick last year was the advisor advocate this year it could be the it could be the oven mitts advocate i don't know i give this man a random shot style and let's go let's launch the career of ross boston baby enforcer now sniper well what does this look like what does this look like power oh do we go with
Starting point is 00:41:05 power forward though so maybe he scored a goal two goals okay so we're two games into the preseason we're undefeated and ross boston has two goals in the sim because of course he does first game of Our NHL career and our first victims are going to be the Washington Capitals. And who is on my line? I don't know. Let's find out. I bet it's a great line. Boy, howdy.
Starting point is 00:41:27 This is a third line of Ross Boston, Charlie Coyle, and Pavel Zakov. We are going to destroy worlds. Look at how big he is next to him. Holy shit. Here we are. He's like 6'5". He's towering over Ovi. 6'7", 250.
Starting point is 00:41:43 Towering over Ovi. Of what promises to be a fantastic career because he's a Bruin, and there's no other way his career turns out. Let's be honest. Can we wrap this up? Can we get to the ice? Thank you. Let's go.
Starting point is 00:41:56 America. Oh, we're on the path. You give him, Ross Boston, some power play time. This guy's funny. In his first game. I love this, Ross Boston. Go to the net. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:42:10 If we just had one bounce in off a butt cheek. Get in there, 69. First shift. We're going to go to the net, though. Like, we're 6-7. You know, that's kind of what we do. Back at the point. There you go.
Starting point is 00:42:19 We have an assist. On a very long shift. Secondary assist, though. Feed the middle, and that is a 1-0 lead for the Broston Bruins. The Broston. Yeah, sure. Why not? Let's just fail at talking.
Starting point is 00:42:33 Oh, oh, oh. Hold on. Can we take him wide? No, we absolutely cannot take him wide. We've got to get a goal by him. We're way too late. Come on. Look at us being a net front presence.
Starting point is 00:42:40 We're going to be even better than Thomas Holmstrom down there, okay? We gotta get our first hit back. I promise I'll do enforcer things at some point. It's just I haven't had the opportunity. Oh, clap! Clap and shit bombs right in his body area. Hey, buddy, you want to cut inside so I can absolutely wreck your shit? Oh, that's going to be a missed pass, apparently.
Starting point is 00:42:59 Oh, you're dead. You're dead. Ah! Ross Boston with the big hit. Do it for Boston, Ross! Yes, sir. Feed the middle of the ice. Not happening.
Starting point is 00:43:08 Into the corner. You're dead, too. You just wait until there's a whistle. I will slash the hell out of somebody. I better not find 43 out here. I swear to God. So the first period's in the books. We're up to one zip.
Starting point is 00:43:18 Off an assist by Ross Boston. This ain't good. Oh, yeah, this is our moment. This is our moment. Slash. Here we go. I better not find 43 out here. There it is.
Starting point is 00:43:26 There it is. Fuck it. Ross Boston. First NHL career goal. First career goal, Ross Boston. With the wooden stick out here. Let's go, Ross. And it's shooting up in bees.
Starting point is 00:43:34 Who is this old man? Hey, there's the ball. It's crazy. Even a trainer is on the verge of retirement here on the Bruins. But still performing at a high level, I'm sure. I better not find 43 out here I swear to God That is everything
Starting point is 00:43:49 We could have ever asked for I want Ross Boston jerseys Can we get Ross Boston jerseys? I would love one Is a Bruins jersey with Boston on it Here's his first career fight If you guys want to see it Oh let's go
Starting point is 00:44:04 Who's he fighting? Who knows the numbers on the Coyotes? Anyone? Oh Cassian it says right there Well that's a good fight good tilt Beat his ass let's go Ross That Gordie Howe hat trick That's right
Starting point is 00:44:18 First career game Not bad I don't know about you but that was great listening I thought That was great content He has some funny lines America Yeah when the flag came out
Starting point is 00:44:33 That was wonderful Oh man um so listen i i think uh i think ross boston has some legs here guys i think this is a thing i i want a ross boston jersey i might have to invest he's got some legs and a couple fish ross boston boston 69 yeah can you imagine i want this person to be real so bad well i know can we i wish there could we create like it'd be nice if we create some like fan fiction around ross boston like can We create a whole career.
Starting point is 00:45:08 Not like that kind of thing. Not sexual. Not all fan fiction is that fucking. Tumblr brought back the nudies. Oh, they did? I think so. That's because they got to bring back the people. Yeah, because they banned explicit stuff.
Starting point is 00:45:20 They banned nudes and then everybody's like, fuck Tumblr. Like, let's not be on Tumblr. Oh, yeah, I was here not for the nudes, apparently. It's funny. Tumblr died as soon as they did that. I think Ross Boston needs to have, and not all fan fiction is fucking, by the way. No, no. I think we need to have
Starting point is 00:45:36 We need to have a Ross Boston Storyline, career arc Is he a 5 year, is he an 8 year Is he a 10 year vet A Hall of Famer You think he's a Hall of Famer Boston Hall of Fame I like that, key to the city
Starting point is 00:45:53 He definitely wins the cup And is the 4th most important piece But he goes to the Hall of Fame anyways Brings the cup Out to the mound at Fenway In the summer and throws out the first pitch. I could see him taking the cup
Starting point is 00:46:07 and just breaking it over his knee, too. And everybody going, Fuck yeah, Boston! Let's fucking go, Boston! High clock! He throws the cup into the harbor. Yeah, in the harbor. Oh, man.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Anyway, I needed to bring that up. Now, Grav posted this, and I have not seen this press conference, admittedly. okay we'll get into some serious shit next but i i wanted to play this because grab just captioned this as i love grab uh this is if if ai generated a john tortorella press conference this would be it oh my god so it's two minutes and i just figured we'd go through it like the bella hadid video okay okay because i i've got it on i sent it to you via text and you have not seen this i have not seen this oh so we don't know what to expect no idea so like i wonder is it gonna have
Starting point is 00:47:01 the visual like drake or all right here it is all right john tortorella talking and we'll stop and start you have the answer to that oh yeah let me go back i feel this one compared to your last performance against the kraken you have the answer to that they lost 6-2 by the way last game you mentioned you mentioned exhaustion structure some of the reasons that wait you said this was AI no pause it
Starting point is 00:47:35 no pause it I said it this is a John Tortorella press conference if AI had created it as in it's vintage John Tortorella that was Grav's tweet Grav tweeted that that was his you were expecting did you think this was a chatbot AI John Tortorella
Starting point is 00:47:51 yeah and I'm like but this is real i mean it'd be kind of cool can you do that i don't even know all right let's let me then what are we doing now we're doing this keep going keep going keep going well i guess no not really because we don't know i guess what you were saying in the room what the plan was well i'm not gonna it doesn't do me any good to tell you what's going on in the room right now because that's stuff that we have to figure out in the room belongs in the room so you're gonna have to kind of go with yourself here as far as what you want it's pretty self-explanatory what you saw out there so you really don't need my comments so i guess what
Starting point is 00:48:37 would you tell the fans i'm not too concerned about the fans right now i'm concerned about the hockey team but in terms of a loss like this i mean how can we just pause for a second that reporter does a great job i i if i if that were me and that's crumb i'd be like all right he's in a shit mood and i'll back off after two questions she was like no i'm not gonna let you off the hook why wouldn't why would the fan what do you want to say what are you saying in the dressing room what do the fans like what do you say to the fans i like that i know a lot of people are gonna be like okay what what exactly is john totorella supposed to say but like guys like him sometimes and uh daryl sutter too we'll get into that yesterday by the way that's
Starting point is 00:49:20 why i'm that's my lead like i i understand you not wanting to give up too much information but like you're there also when you're the one writing the open letter to the fans yeah because you're the representative to the fans because john tortorella is the biggest star on the flyers at the moment yeah the very last day he says i'm not concerned about the fans sorry but you have to you are a and B you're the representative to the fans. No, like you're standing, you're standing there.
Starting point is 00:49:47 Okay. Marshawn Lynch was able to get away with it because he did it for one week at the Superbowl. Like you can't do this for 82 games. And also at least Marshawn Lynch was funny. You know why I'm here? Like at very least that was funny and memeable. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:03 This is just sort of a, he's like, he's pouting this. You know what? This is pissy. he's he's being pissy how much time do we have left there just do we just leave it or do we keep going uh we got 50 seconds oh i think we keep going yeah we keep going no and like she's doing her job she's killing it a lot of reporters would yeah back off oh he's not in the mood today
Starting point is 00:50:26 and they do it for you know at the end of the day you do have to have a relationship with these people but she's like no give me something yeah and also sorry john but you've gave us all the impression that if we poke you enough you're going to say something funny so might as well poke them right if if you're in the same city as john tortorelli it's your job to poke them keep going coming into tonight even in your losses the games had been close no at the last couple i guess after several of them you said you still didn't mind the effort um i guess again how is this changing i'm i'm not going to give you any don't you get it it's there's no sense of me giving you information i am not going to talk about my hockey team after a performance like
Starting point is 00:51:08 this why are you standing there then leave doesn't do the team any good that those are the people i'm most concerned about walk away long road trip you have three more games how do you avoid tonight's effort and execution snowballing into those games we'll just keep working on it leave don't say thank you she did a great job don't say thank you you say thank you when you have something to be thankful for i think you say thank you anyway no you after that you say get lost um now can you imagine that would be fireworks there's nothing really there's nothing really on the line in philly we knew they were gonna be bad john tortorella's like they're bad and and then wrote a letter like last week saying hey we're still bad
Starting point is 00:51:51 they've been fine but they're recently but i know they've been fine recently but you know everybody can be fine recently at least once throughout the year it always gets me i'm like oh x team is bad like what have you seen their last 10 almost five four and one almost every team in the east has been fine recently 100 and you that happens throughout a year but the reality is when you're you know 25 and below that three-week stretch is nice but the other 40 weeks are bad and and so i want to come to calgary where there is something on the line and i'll want to start with the the obvious alan walsh tweeted this out and this is what i woke up to on my phone on my for you page because um uh it you know alan is somebody obviously a close contact
Starting point is 00:52:34 what why and and it's the for one of the first tweets i see i see jesse's i see steve's i see sdpn people's first and alan said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result also negativity sucks the joy out of the root out of the players cc at nhl flames i love that because just in case you weren't sure exactly what he was speaking about he does cc nhl flames uh eric salen eric francis has all these quotes from uh sports net he said um it starts with this and i thought this was interesting chris tanev after that game was like we need to play with more emotion obviously a must-win game but we didn't show up i'm supposed to be a leader so i'll take responsibility for not having everybody
Starting point is 00:53:15 ready um but well you oh you'll take responsibility for that chris right okay i wonder if the coach will do that so the coach obviously people have been in calgary been asking for like a goalie change for a month now and finally dan vladar gets the spot and maybe he that's his net now and they're playing against detroit who are a good team a much improved team but they're not yet a playoff team they can score they certainly can and they did last night and and here's daryl's quote on dan vladar well it certainly didn't give us an opportunity to win did it uh because he was asked about the goaltending and the as usual with daryl the video and audio is so much worse yeah yeah the the audio of it actually is is way and then he said that the the team didn't really
Starting point is 00:54:00 show up with with any emotion um i'm i'm just wondering here because every time i mentioned that daryl sutter's not going to be there uh people were like well he signed an extension so and i was reminded yesterday he won the jack adams yeah he did and i think deservedly so i don't take that away from him yeah but that trophy is also a death sentence so getting off that for just a second the flames brad true living we can agree did a very good job this summer two major stars wanted out it looked like he was able to bring huberto and cadre and weaker in and there are now rumors about potentially weaker getting moved which is wild he signed an extension i thought there was some rumors there were some rumors now i want to ask
Starting point is 00:54:47 you um where do you put this where do you put the blame here someone's got to take it is it tree living is it the roster construction which sutter has suggested several times in the press conference there's no one's going to finish is it sutter the coach because the team is remarkably similar to last year's team only they just markstrom is a ghost of himself and that usually will kill you and they don't necessarily have like the finishing power that they used to uh or do you put it squarely on the players where's the where's the blame here in calgary if i uh had a post stpn uh press conference okay and people kept uh asking me um about you know let's say the show wasn't doing well and people asked me why the show
Starting point is 00:55:32 wasn't doing well and i kept making allusions to well um you know i don't i'm not sure our virgin morning radio hosts are pulling their weight and also the guy in charge of uh directing the show like sort of you know where the show goes isn't going great and the guy who wears aaron andrews collection pajamas uh you know is sort of getting in the way of our success would you like me very much it it would certainly especially if you were my boss because we're all partners in this business so we're all you know we're equal partners so this but if you were but if you were my boss yeah i think i'd be a little disheartened no no now imagine okay so yes you're you're thinking about it from the perspective of the coach dumping on the players
Starting point is 00:56:20 yeah which daryl sutter does all the time what i'm alluding to and this is much more serious is daryl sutter dumping on the general manager he's dumping on the job that the general manager has done daryl you know what i'm gonna do you a big favor and i'm gonna fire you tell you to get out but he's not tree living guy anyway and he knows that but like you're obviously not happy here you don't like the goaltending i uh gave you like one of the most expensive decors in the league uh and deepest um i brought in uh cadre the bell of the ball um a guy who rejected a trade here a few years ago and he can say everything he wants about no i actually like it here whatever um and i brought you a guy who set the left wing assist record last year and uh and all of a sudden
Starting point is 00:57:08 it's it's listen it can't be everyone's damn fault daryl and you just keep shitting on the job i'm doing i don't like you that would be me if i was brad treliving and brad treliving is a gm who i've criticized many times in the past and heading into this off season i thought the writing on the wall was this guy's done it's over uh with brad treliving but i'm looking at the roster and i'm sorry what's the problem okay it's a good team i don't like i don't love their left side but they're one two three up the middle actually their whole their center core is lindholm cadry backland lewis that is stellar stellar i like their right side i like their decor markstrom's turned into a pumpkin okay i think it's fair that he's been garbage
Starting point is 00:58:03 Vladar's given them some pretty good games I don't know Like Daryl, I think I'm just going to do you a favor And fire you I'm going to pay you to not work And pay you to not coach this team That you very obviously hate Daryl Sutter
Starting point is 00:58:20 Does not like the Calgary Flames Of 2023 Isn't that obvious? Isn't that very obvious? He doesn't think they try He doesn't think they can finish He doesn't think they can stop a puck He hates this team. Do him a favor, get rid of him well but this is the problem and i've been saying this since the beginning murray he's
Starting point is 00:58:37 murray edwards guy he is not tree livings pick ah that's what western canada does best have owners get directly in the way of their own team success well the three canadian western teams yeah yeah i mean i don't i don't count winnipeg as a western team they're a central team to me how's that well and that's that's fair and that's an interesting one but no i'm referring to yeah the three teams uh that are objectively the west vancouver like aquilini is uh he's the king daryl cates is absolutely very involved yeah but he does let his guys do his thing it's just he surrounds himself with the 80s oilers less so recently and he happens to be blessed with this just unreal lottery ticket lottery ticket player uh like you talk about
Starting point is 00:59:24 generational talent that's a one multi once in a generation multi-generation yeah um and the flames oh my god constantly getting in the way of his team's success i'm just so tired of like i'm tired of him i'm just tired of daryl and i am tired of seeing his press conferences on my twitter feed like once a week imagine the guys who have to go through a daryl sutter practice julian mckenzie oh but like even the players like you sitting here in toronto who's not even a flames fan are sick of daryl sutter i don't care if they win or lose imagine being under him and being that's your coach and you got to deal with this guy i don't think any of the players like him i don't think the management likes him and i don't understand why he's still
Starting point is 01:00:10 there i've been told his pre-game speeches are eulogies i was gonna say and that's when they're good imagine imagine that guy like we perform for a living not in the nhl but we this is a performance we're putting on um i imagine somebody like that is the guy that's supposed to get you pumped up for this like we don't have to yell and scream and shout but like get you motivated though you do have to do that i think you can be a stoic um and that's fine and it works for you i mean like at the end of the day daryl sutter's had a lot of success in this league he's won divisions he's won i don't know yeah we get that we get all that i'm tired of this i'm tired of this no no i'm so sick of hearing that no i know i know yeah you won the jack i get it but what
Starting point is 01:00:55 are you doing now coaches this is the thing so what but but you just signed him to an extension and i guess you're paying him and he just won coach of the year the saying coaches get hired to get fired doesn't paint the picture you hear it often head coaches get stale this dude is stale as month-old bread no one in that room wants to play for him right now um so if there's an effort thing there it might be because they kind of think you suck dude you don't make work fun you don't make it should be fun it should be a little bit fun the flames were fun as hell last year they were really really fun and this year they're just sort of i saw that they were in a playoff spot and i was surprised i i don't know if they're gonna well the west is pretty bad
Starting point is 01:01:47 oh man this is pretty bad and we still might have a cup winner out of the west but the oh they're not in a playoff spot right now it's minnesota they're bad it's minnesota who got knocked down to a wild card spot by the way and i gotta say i'm surprised the oilers are still in a wild card spot i really believe in that team like once like if they make a big ad and they uh and they um just find a way to get in which right now they're fine oh man i don't want to play them that's edmonton yeah that's edmonton i don't want to figure out how to play some defense uh yeah everybody on the team like or just double down on offense with eric carlson call it a day or do that all right which i think is believe it or not the easier thing to do uh when it comes to
Starting point is 01:02:33 the flames i think it's like bruce boudreaux's there like damien cox's article from the other day should have been about calgary that you know that is literally if he had said if he had replaced sheldon keith with sutter it would have been like wow a uh it would have been that meme the worst person you know makes a good point uh you know what i mean like and that guy in that meme looks like damien cox by the way he does and it's not because it's it's like that is a legitimate criticism that can be leveled this team needs to have a little fun you know and there are going to be people who oh yeah that's who you need to drive you to playoff success is bruce freaking boudreaux you need to drive to the playoffs first but like you get there you hear about tacticians
Starting point is 01:03:14 and you hear about motivators uh i get the impression daryl sutter is a tactician on account of he's definitely not a motivator but this team just feels like a team that needs a motivator right now they need joy they play joyless hockey well they've you know what they have a habit of hiring joyless coaches glenn glutzen uh bill peters um who who else and then i think it was daryl and then it was daryl like more it's just morbid remember i used to make fun of glenn glitzen's press conferences regularly i'd be like this guy is morose and it's a good hockey team and he seems to be an okay uh assistant coach and we've talked about this on the on the show uh some guys they're great assistants they get promoted to head coach and they find out
Starting point is 01:04:01 they're better off being an assistant right um that's three hires in a row where i mean at least Sutter has a track record for God's sake Galitzian um at very least was you know what he doesn't have much of a track record let's see what he's got and then there's Bill Peters who did have a track record of not being very good and Calgary bent over backwards to get him anyway which is so weird because like I remember we talked about it at the time Bill Peters was never a good idea and then we found out all the other stuff you kicked a player in carolina you said something racist in chicago or with rockford whatever and now i don't know like i feel like maybe comparing glitzen and and peters to sutter isn't the most fair we're not comparing we're just saying that
Starting point is 01:04:56 they have a track record of hiring guys who are glum is that what what part of that's incorrect like it's literally like it it's just just it's probably you know like the personality that the owner attaches to and like the interview process and like the people he likes and that you know oh good so why fire anyone ever keep keep center forever sign him to a lifetime contract if that's what you fucking want this is not what this team needs right now and also stop burning money billionaires need financial advice knock it off get out of your own way what why have brad living then you're making all the fucking decisions hold on though bill peters was tree living's guy so if i was murray edwards i wouldn't trust him either what's he still there
Starting point is 01:05:45 for well i guess because of the off season that he had which was really good yeah but is it well look at him you're right you're right yeah you're right so like what this comes down to who's the president uh bean what is his name what is his name john bean john b that's the president yeah like listen do yourself a favor whoever is making the decisions because we keep talking about oh he has the favor of ownership he has the favor of the president fire everyone and you do it fire everyone and you do it that's the way it is anyway just save some money fire everyone and you do it why not we're all sad i have a picture of all the uh flames executives no they're smiling they're not glum no they're not the head coaches though glum such a good word they are that's a
Starting point is 01:06:38 great word yeah i don't know man it's like you know that you know that uh that filter that people put over faces where their eyes poke out and they're sad like that you know like what you see them on oh yeah it's just like it's like a filter that whatever it's like you could do that with every calgary coach i don't know for the last 10 years yeah i i i just think it's it's stale man and and it worked it worked like hell last year it doesn't work right now it doesn't work right now now do you say oh it hasn't been long enough and you give them time to turn it around or do you do you do something different oh i mean what do the flames do better than wait i think there's so much proof of concept here with the flames that it's not working especially
Starting point is 01:07:22 if you go all the way back to the edmonton series where they just pooped their pants and it wasn't great at all and now we have a whole three quarters of a season of markstrom uh what's wrong they haven't been the same since then have they no not at all they were so and they were at the highest of highs going out coming out of that first round series and then you go in that edmonton series and they get walloped and then their two biggest stars leave they bring in two new stars and then they can't get it going together and it's been a whole disaster of a season it's been downhill since uh late early mid-may it's kind of ironic that they made a trade with each other with each other but there are two very good teams who won their respective divisions uh who
Starting point is 01:08:08 lost in the second round and allowed it to break their brains and that's the calgary flames in the florida panthers the panthers are like starting to recover they're starting to recover and they might make the playoffs yeah they're climbing back into it yeah they're getting closer because uh washington unfortunately uh with john carlson out like they they're not very good they haven't been very good lately and like oviness sometime because of the passing of his father and they seem to be like the team that's kind of going to be on the outside looking in and one of buffalo maybe detroit maybe who knows or florida grabs that spot from washington kind of how i'm looking at playing out yeah i yeah anyway we're going all over the place with
Starting point is 01:08:55 the flames at the end of the day i think they're a very good team they are i think they're a very good team i think it's time for a coach you mean very very talented because they're not good right now no there you think they have a lot of talent that is underperforming yeah dude this isn't me like uh putting on my pom-poms and cheering for alan like and and his clients his client uh have we even brought up jonathan hubert i don't think we've talked about him no but like that's how we got here i guess yeah i think it's implied mr wild yeah but like oh my god i've been on this for i've been on this for like a couple months not necessarily saying rah rah fire daryl sutter and like i'm not cheering for someone to lose their job no it's sometimes it's the wrong
Starting point is 01:09:38 fit yeah i'm cheering for uh if if we're talking about how a team can be better yeah rarely do we get on here and talk about all right so here's how you get worse right yeah like uh that's that's how you do it with the flames so i think you need a new voice and yeah that's extension sucks but what are you gonna do too bad well no the other option is you just sit in it and get killed in the first round i guess i don't think they're gonna do that i mean as as someone whose team has lost in many consecutive first rounds i don't recommend it yeah it sucks what a bet yep then get into the action. It's Sports Interaction. Whatever your sport, Sports Interaction has you covered. Bet
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Starting point is 01:10:43 Bella Hadid listens to this podcast. You're convinced? If you remember from a couple episodes ago, I brought up bella hadid thinking about pizza and what it was was a vogue magazine clip where they ask her about what her favorite food is and she's like id oh it's id magazine yeah okay so it's just like i like pizza every week and forth yeah i like pizza every week so then she posted a bunch of pictures on her insta stories about how she has so much pizza all the time so this is from her insta
Starting point is 01:11:17 stories about all the pizza that she eats guys these are her pizza stories and i just oh my god that's so many so many pizzas courtney reached out and said hey just so you know bella hadid has had it and she wants you to pizza she she has eaten pizza before and she's taking a it's a bunch of that literally is supposed to be her her camera about she just takes pictures with pizza you know what bless her she does what i want to do just eat pizza all the time i had chicken salad the other day you think i wanted that no you want pizza yeah you for sure want pizza i hope this was a attempt by the people that boo run her social media to be in on the joke now so now that it went viral and she was a meme for her robot i eat pizza every day thing i hope now
Starting point is 01:12:11 her social media team has decided like hey we're gonna be in on the joke here's all the times bell is eating pizza blah blah blah and not what probably is happening she's getting a little defensive so i hope it's the first one and not the latter she's she's definitely not mad about sounding like one of the green aliens from the simpsons she's definitely not mad or i hope they're on the joke now pizza every day like a human i have human food like humans oh man well well there it is guys ah bless her um let's do the press conference the presser s d p the steve dangle press conference as aubrey graham would say the big shit pop in uh this weekend we are sending down s
Starting point is 01:13:15 barahaney of sdpn sports and of the objective basketball pod to the nba all-star weekend follow along on our social channels at sdpn sports to follow along his journey there he is down there with the producer producer drew producer drew of producer drew fame uh of cam and stew as well a cam and stew a drew and stew yeah by the way i'm stewart were you guys uh he was i was texting with him all morning uh i hope he gets to salt lake on time why what happened uh they were de-icing his plane he was on the tarmac for two and a half oh no because they have a connection to make in i think calgary my last text to him was they finally finished and they were about to take off and it should it should get him there with a about an hour to 45 minutes to spare well that's awful
Starting point is 01:14:07 okay i hope those gates are close to each other yes um it's nice when the airline knows that there are connections to be made on the plane they're like okay everybody with the connection fucking get your shit and get off the plane first like that hopefully they get that um but yeah so there'll be a live stream on saturday night um s will be doing a live stream at a bar in salt lake for the skills competition which is always one of the biggest events in the nba calendar uh throughout the year the three-point competition looks like it's gonna be a smash and philadelphia so philadelphia 76ers have a guy named mclung that's gonna be in the dunk competition clung mclung oh mclung i forget his first name mike mclung i think um i should just check but um he
Starting point is 01:14:49 is not a philadelphia 77 he plays for their g league team what they signed him to a two-way contract like two days ago so that he could be in the dunk competition oh he better be wild because there's a problem in the nba right now with none of the stars wanting to embarrass themselves in the dunk competition it's been happening for a few years now and it's kind of going downhill so now we have ringers who are literally like this guy he's an incredible dunker screw it just entertain right we might see something awesome out of a guy that nobody knows and i don't know what are your guys feelings about that you bring in the ringers because you don't have the stars if the stars are going to be such babies about it like is it is it really that is it really
Starting point is 01:15:28 something that's going to like hurt your brand image if you if you throw a bad dunk at the dunk competition they think so okay well then bring in some guy that will i i like that and you know what i like about it it gives the dunk competition something that's interesting because it really has struggled in the last few years people are not really going for it the way they used to and they're i like an underdog story this is great so his name is mac mcclellan mac mcclellan get his name right that's a great name um yeah so i like that he's he's not a professional like there are guys who are professional dunkers i don't know if you guys ever yes i have instagram and stuff they do crazy shit but max half in in that world where he does crazy dunks and stuff
Starting point is 01:16:08 that people don't really do if you're an nba player okay so i don't know it's interesting like it's weird because the three-point competition lineup is pretty good stellar yeah but the the dunk competition uh what someone has to step up and one day in i'm sure the near future one star will be like ah i want to do it and then the rest of them will be like ah okay will do it too i like the idea of not using the guys who are in the all-star game in the skills competition is just that's the way it should be like i feel like you get the guys who are best at those skills and put them into the skills competition then the all-star game is for the all-stars and i feel like the nhl also game like go get the fastest skaters and put them in the
Starting point is 01:16:51 fastest skaters competition it doesn't have to be from the guys who are actually in the game like yes it's the skills yeah go get the skills guys yeah so i want that i like i like that the nba does that and we're going to have a big spotlight on NBA All-Star Weekend this weekend with S down there doing a whole bunch of content. Make sure you follow us and enjoy that.
Starting point is 01:17:13 He's going to have pizza every day? I'm very interested to see what the Salt Lake scene is. They found a sports bar in Salt Lake. What is the nightlife? Shout out to our Discord because I snuck in there and I was like, hey, very random
Starting point is 01:17:32 question, what do you do in Salt Lake City? And people came up with some suggestions. Amazing. So thank you very much. I love that. I think, were we not scouring the Utah Jazz chat? Yeah. Hey, what's up? Any Jazz fans here? Yeah. And surprisingly, there were. I was like, the most recent post was December.
Starting point is 01:17:49 That's okay. Which is more recent than I thought it would be. Oh, yeah. Pretty good. All right. I like it. They have a surprisingly good team this year, so uh we'll see yeah get catch that stream saturday youtube.com slash stpn catch adam's stream saturday as well too uh this question is from scott a dubia cool f1 testing right around the corner got any predictions for this upcoming season adam wild uh uh i am depressed i am depressed mclaren has already said uh we're not sure about the car this year and they had
Starting point is 01:18:24 terrible breaks off the start of last year which fucked up both lando and danny uh and they got a rookie driver in their second spot this year and then they already can't give him a good car and zach brown said oh our air tunnel's not going to be done until the you know midway through next year so we expect to be good in like 25 26 is that the guy with the band zach brown no different zach brown band oh but he always has a lot of people around um uh i think mercedes is gonna i think mercedes is gonna come roaring back this year and i think red bull's in trouble because i think those drivers verstappen and perez are putting on a nice brave face uh i think they hate each other but you have to right well have you did you know what happened
Starting point is 01:19:00 no so okay i'm just talking so perez was is this late season and perez they wanted him to finish second in the points because verstappen had already won it like with seven races to go and verstappen was in fifth or something and perez is in sixth and they're like max let sergio buy and max is like no and he's already wrapped it right he they just wanted perez they wanted them finishing one two in the points and max like i'm not letting him buy no way and he said and i've already explained to you why i'm not doing that and here's why and blah blah blah and it came down to a conspiracy theory probably started by max's uh father uh but by by these hardcore weirdo max verstappen fans that sergio perez had intentionally crashed in monaco
Starting point is 01:19:48 at the beginning of the season to keep max out of qualifying first in a race that he didn't do very well and at the end of the day anyway and perez i believe won that race and so so what they were saying was what max was saying was he intentionally crashed in monaco to win that and in monaco you can't pass anyone it's fucking impossible and so where you basically qualify is where you end up and uh and basically he was essentially that the thinking was well um i won't he didn't he did that to me so i'm not gonna let him buy and what it did was he was already the world champion there's already questions about his attitude and it just made him outside of like the weird nerds that are max for stopping fans um uh it already it made them kind of like oh man like how do i keep
Starting point is 01:20:35 defending this guy up and his dad who is an asshole uh to to just say the least has been accused of like terrible things uh is is like in his ear all the time you gotta remember these drivers are like 21 22 23 they're kids like think about how old you were before you finally said even in your 20s to my parents to your parents no i'm not gonna fucking do that not everything you say is you know what i mean and i think that there's a little bit of that going on i think his dad's a bad dude and i think i think those red bull guys they're either gonna have a great year or they're gonna blow each other apart and i think it's it's it's good that to me is the team to watch and i want to know what ferrari does because ferrara is is like it's a very it's an important
Starting point is 01:21:18 brand and they just switch their uh their team principal you have pies on um yeah jesse what do think uh williams gonna win the driver yeah fuck off williams is like sorry constructed it's so sad oh yeah it's like one of the most storied teams in the entire in f1 history and they can barely get a point bringing this conversation to a place where i can participate please i had speaking of paison i had my italianness called into question by an older italian man recently what do you mean um because he's he was very obviously italian and i told him i was italian and he's like looking at me and he can see where i'm coming from but he goes you from the north because in the winter i get very pale and i had to tell him no it's just my dad's a muncher cake
Starting point is 01:22:13 sorry i tan in the summer after burning i i severely i have a question from a dm if it's okay if we ask it are you guys okay with this sure this is from harrison uh and i only bring this up because i thought it was an interesting question because i couldn't answer it immediately and i wondered what the two of you thought he said hey i'm gonna be visiting toronto shortly and it'll be my first time in canada do you guys have any favorite regional specific snacks like something you can only find in canada and maybe not the states and i was kind of thinking about that and i couldn't usually i just respond to my dms but i couldn't answer that i don't i don't know i think the issue with toronto food is you have everything yeah and it's all
Starting point is 01:22:57 pretty good like i i just name everything you know it's all good shit it's like if you would go to the east coast and be like well i'll have some lobster like you go to mcdonald's you get a mclobster it's so multicultural you get everything you want yeah there's no specific toronto food where you're like oh you gotta get this one no you can really get anything only thing i would really say is like caribbean you could probably get really good caribbean i would get the pad thai at jack astor's i mean if you're coming jack astor's pad thai do you remember when jack astor's had the oh my god the burger inside the pizza yes yes i do that was was that jack astor's or was it boston pizza well actually that sounds like boston bp for sure who's
Starting point is 01:23:40 also delicious yes which is fantastic uh owned by the true living family yes bring it back to hockey that that thing was in that thing was so good oh you tried it yeah i never had it oh i wish i hope they bring it back they had a funny name for a dude they called it like the burger or something like the pie burger or something stupid uh the bird visa or something i don't know it was delicious there are there are great restaurants everywhere and i just couldn't think of like a there are no toronto specific foods no we it's it's uh super duper underrated food city and i think the biggest problem is uh you ask any given you ask any person where they should go and everyone will have a different answer yeah yeah it depends on what
Starting point is 01:24:26 pocket of the city they live in what culture's food they like you can get it all here that's beautiful thing about toronto that has everything by the way i'm glad people are coming back to visit it's a bit of a toronto seems to be in a bit of a fragile place at the moment Like it's a bit I was about to ask why Not just the mayor though It's been a couple years And so it's nice to hear people coming back
Starting point is 01:24:47 Can I do one last thing This is from Sir Digby Chicken Caesar Reminded me of this Sir Digby wants a special Thread For Conor Ingram appreciation And that is much deserved
Starting point is 01:25:03 Because Conor Ingram shut out The Tampa Bay Lightning uh two nights ago one night ago two nights ago um one nothing the game went all the way to a shootout zero zero conor ingram he had uh nearly 50 saves in that game 47 uh 47 was the shutout yeah and it included an incredible one three on three in ot where he saves it with the back of his skate um conor ingram you were right about ingram steve that's a hat pick i was right about ingram again hat pick one of the best best game of his career easily it's his first career shutout um wasn't it a record for the most saves in a first shutout was it someone or like it was top
Starting point is 01:25:43 five yeah he should be one of the nhl three stars this week for that performance fantastic shout out conor ingham bill armstrong's gonna be so pissed he's like hey i got you because you're not good yeah so with that save the shots were 44 to 26 wait you mean to tell me he faced three more shots after that oh yeah holy shit the lightning they're peppering him and he stood on his head imagine connor ingram's the only connor they ended up with this year imagine you bet this i want to know what the odds were on like sports interaction coyote shut out going into the game versus the lightnings i was so pissed because i saw um what the score was and i saw how many shots and i was like yes i have the melka
Starting point is 01:26:25 and then i saw you might be the worst fantasy player in the world i'm fourth out of eight Which is better than earlier Here's what I want to do next September I want to do an episode Where Professor Jesse teaches you How to do fantasy properly I did that on the Jesse Blake Sports Report I want to play against you
Starting point is 01:26:48 I want to humble you Absolutely humble you I'm going to overload you with all my galaxy brain shit The only thing with you and me in our leagues Is we play completely different roles Yes And our scoring system is completely different So it'd throw me off.
Starting point is 01:27:05 Does your league dock points for penalty minutes? You get points for penalty minutes. You get points. Yeah. Okay. So I'm considering dropping Pierre-Luc Dubois because he has seven minor penalties over the last eight games and you get docked for that. That's ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:27:20 So he's killing me because he'll get a goal and I'll be like, yes. And then he'll take two penalties and I'm like, fuck. And then he gets an assist and then he takes a penalty and that takes away like a quarter of the assist or half of the assist. So he's killing me right now. We just play by categories, so PIMS is like a category, and if you win that category that week, that's a victory. That's a point to your total.
Starting point is 01:27:42 It's a little different, so we have to find some mutual rules if we want to make a new fantasy league. But we'll do something. We'll have fun. Holding on to Vemelka because Ingram is about to steal his job, and also Vemelka's getting traded to a really good team, and he's going to get nothing but shout-outs. Been saying that for months.
Starting point is 01:27:59 There you go. Been saying it for months. He's on that Vemelka train. Most saves in a first NHL shutout. 40 big ol' seven. That's wild. Next week, we're going to have a bit of a different schedule. Tuesday, Thursday, Friday will be our schedule next week.
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