The Steve Dangle Podcast - Pixel Gambling | April 15, 2021

Episode Date: April 16, 2021

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Auston Mathews' NFTs & NBA Top Shot talk (00:00), who wore the crown? (19:00), the current state of the Toronto Maple Leafs post-deadline, injuries, PP str...uggles, and more (43:00), the Vancouver Canucks speak out about their return to play (57:00), the Calgary Flames new arena (1:14:00), and the press conference: trivia and Leafs Cup LFR (1:18:00). Originally aired: April 15, 2021 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/dT4CSRf8sXA Visit https://sdpn.ca​ for merch and more. We've joined The Athletic and you can too! Hit the link to subscribe: https://theathletic.com/sdp​ Visit this episode's sponsors: https://www.betterhelp.com/​ https://www.freshly.com/​ https://www.babbel.com/​ Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 with your host steve dangle adam wild and jesse blake all right so uh i just want to remind you that sdpn.ca where you hook up your steve dangle podcast merchandise jesse blake i have a question for you what's up it's in my dms and it was all caps oh no do you know it was super cereal hey super dude for serious do go down in the dm when when in caps are we in caps getting our in-cap steven angle podcast jerseys hockey jerseys when will that be available jesse well i don't know you just gotta you gotta keep a keep on a lookout you know we have a we have a little uh newsletter that goes out with the website if you want to be the first to know when that drops maybe you hit subscribe maybe you enter your email there maybe we send you the little email
Starting point is 00:00:59 this is dropping maybe it drops as an nft and not as a can you imagine maybe uh maybe somebody's working on a little nfc drop of steve dangle podcast cards and a jersey that's a 25 000 it's not gonna be cheap i don't know what you're expecting but pixels are mad expensive so jesse here's the thing with jesse he's very evasive but it's convincingly evasive so jesse would make you'd make a fantastic politician step forward say nothing step back everyone goes great okay well i feel good about that plan so when i was uh when i was a kid my mom always told me i used to be i should be a lawyer because i was really good at uh at lying to my parents when i was a kid and but it wouldn't be about anything serious it'd be like oh did you do your homework and i come
Starting point is 00:01:46 some elaborate excuse as to why i didn't now was your sister as good at it oh god no no i didn't think so how does good of a liar jesse's sister is one of the nicest people i've ever met in my life so i'd have a hard time believing she'd be any good at that right to the list but i was one of those little kids who would just lie about nothing you know yeah well of course just to see what if you could yeah yeah like that now um nfts on that subject i i hope you're working on nfts i don't even know if you're being serious or not but but um i know that steve is very upset this afternoon because he missed out on a three hundred thousand dollar lebron james nft apparently yep i uh was getting shit done i had to go pick up some new glasses i got them you want to see
Starting point is 00:02:33 them i can put them on and also a new furnace hey kids you want a new furnace you also have $5,000 you'd like to part with. That's how you get new furnace kids. The thing about buying a house is everybody's like, listen, if I just want to buy a house, by the way, glasses look good. Just want to buy a house. I just want to own a house. And I get you a hundred percent.
Starting point is 00:02:54 Get you. However, when you are even able to put the money together to buy the house, that's when the expenses begin. It's not like it stops. It's not like, oh, I just pay my mortgage and that's it. It's tens of thousands of dollars doing stuff that you just like that barely made a difference.
Starting point is 00:03:09 like no one is going to come to steve's house and go god it feels efficient in here is that wow wow bro bro is this uh is this on low fire or high fire right now feeling a little high fire right now you don't gotta oh you leave your fan on all the time or is on uh is it on auto it's actually better to leave it on on because the stop started actually put stress on the motor anyway what were you saying bro i know we haven't seen each other in like 14 months like uh where where were you that's true it's true so i know steve did run a bit sorry jesse go ahead go ahead at 2 p.m eastern time today there was a nba top shop pack drop the cool cats drop four is being released and um you had to get in line before 2 p.m to be eligible for the pack and
Starting point is 00:03:56 steve uh you weren't in line because i forgot even though i set an alarm like you did at 155 for the 2 p.m drop i forgot and my plans for a yacht are once again on hold i'm currently in line uh there are 23 000 users ahead of me i'm so jealous but there are 82 000 packs remaining you know you're opening that on the show uh this time i'm gonna get one can you run me through how that works. So they do a drop. What do you do? So like today we'll use today for instance. So today there's a drop at two. So before two, you hit up the, the landing page where the drop is going to happen. And then at two, you get placed in line. So everybody who's on the landing page at two. So today there was 200,000 people on the landing page at 2 PM at 2 PM. These 200,000 people
Starting point is 00:04:56 who are on this webpage get spit out into a random order into line to buy a pack. So there's 200,000 people, but there's only 90,000. Let's say there's only 90,000 packs. So I got placed in 50, I was 56,000 in line. So that means I'm within that 90,000 window. So I'm going to get a pack today, but you could have been placed in like 150,000. You could have been first, you could have been last, wherever. So if you're not in line at 2 PM, you're basically, you're not going to get a pack because then you don't get placed in line so yeah so then once once you're placed in so i'm uh like i said i'm 22 000 so i've moved up about uh 25 000 slots so far and then once it's your turn in line you have an hour to buy to just go through the checkout
Starting point is 00:05:41 and buy your pack so you could be sitting so like i'm just gonna leave that tab open and whenever it's my turn in line i'm gonna get a notification or an email i'll just check it and then within that hour i'll have my turn in line to buy a pack and the um and then there's the random pack so you might get something super valuable or not and how do you determine value and how do you resell it great question adam so the value is determined just by what the marketplace values it has so whoever wants to buy a pack is buy that card will buy it for whatever they determine the value as do you instantly put your yours up for sale yeah yeah i i do because but is you don't have to but um but like the rarity of the card determines the value ultimately right
Starting point is 00:06:26 you want something that's unique and nobody else has rarity's big um but also uh there's been a fascinating thing like with lebron james where like everything of his is extremely valuable and that includes cards that aren't even his so there was a card i think it's gone down in value but like most of them have after the initial boom it's a pascal siakam card and it's him blocking lebron and it was by by far the most valuable pascal siakam uh moment because it's on lebron anything that features lebron is more valuable by having lebron in it that's how influential lebron james's if he happens to be on a card that's not even his and also it's not a physical card it's literally just digital and there's thousands of them but he's he's an icon well
Starting point is 00:07:21 they're absolute icon the the unique thing about nfts is that they're non-fungible tokens and that you can they're stamped and they're yours you know so they're they're can own there can be thousands but there can also be like hundreds or tens of them you know and you have proof that you own that one lebron james digital card technically each one is a one of one yes right technically but then there'll be number 2,500 out of 10,000 yeah there's only one that is numbered 2,500 out of 10,000 exactly okay so so let me ask you this um when you do put it up for sale jesse like have you sold any no no i don't have any valuable cards like oh i've only gotten one pack so far uh oh that's how hard it is to get one yeah well i've been trying yeah it's
Starting point is 00:08:08 it's really hard but i've been trying for as long as steve steve has more cards than i do i've only done two or three pack but yeah i just used throw them up and i haven't sold any yet i know matthews put out his today yeah i don't have any word on how they've done but i'm sure somebody paid a fortune for whatever it was i was looking oh you got it okay okay i'm uh i'm in this game i might as well dive head first and so they were they were up uh yesterday and the auction runs they're going to be available through saturday and you're going to bid on them and when i was checking yesterday there's a couple of them that are um like the rare ones there are a couple that are only that edition there's one of his jersey is just a digital rendition of his jersey and that
Starting point is 00:08:51 was going for about uh seven thousand dollars it was like it was 1.3 ethereum which is about seven thousand dollars oh yeah it was pretty it was pretty crazy and i think he has a collection of like 80 different cards but like the top end ones like that one that was going for seven thousand that one also came with um some real life things so you'd buy this nft and you also get a autographed jersey you get tickets to a game and you get a zoom call with austin matthews so like you're not just purchasing that nft you're also getting these other things a couple of the other ones came with some autographed sticks and some tickets to as well and then there were some that were like 200 starting bids but those were just nfts so you just get this trading cards for
Starting point is 00:09:35 us matthews that's an nft and just yours for like a couple hundred dollars how much just how much is the nba pack sorry steve how much does it cost it varies it varies so on uh monday there was a pack drop for 999 dollars unbelievable so you could buy that pack of cards and in that in that pack if you if you buy it for a thousand dollars you're gonna get something crazy like there's a guarantee that in this pack you're gonna get some rare cards so you make your money back probably yeah you're gonna but uh for those packs those really rare packs um you you have to meet a certain amount of criteria to be eligible to even purchase it so uh nba top show will be like hey unless you have three rare cards you've you've played participated in these four different pack
Starting point is 00:10:21 drops then you can't purchase it so you have to meet these minimum requirements to actually purchase those really rare packs but a pack like today is open to everybody everybody can get it and it's only 14 and here's why the packs are are so important so when i was starting to get into it i bought four cards just individually on their own and i have eaten a mountain of shit on all of them um so i bought a demarcus cut no sorry sergio bacca for 19 it's now worth nine so i've lost ten dollars there i bought a demarcus cousins card for 29 it's now worth nine so there's 20 i'm now down 30 i bought a robin lopez moment that was just a funny jump shot for 24 uh it's now worth 13 so i've lost 11 and you thought my james reimer figure was stupid for 60 guess what
Starting point is 00:11:14 i still have it in my room i spent 60 on a chris boucher card and it is now worth 21 so i lost 39 so that's why these pack drops are so important like you're saying steve because in these pack drops i'll pay 14 bucks but i might get a couple cards that are worth how much ever but if you're buying them on the marketplace you're basically playing stocks and you're like yeah it's steve yeah your your uh your whole collections has a pretty good value it's not bad but 165 bucks i'm i'm up 43 but like yeah when you're buying them secondary off of people who purchase packs you're like okay i think this is gonna go up in value and you might get screwed like steve where you're like ah this i'm gonna pay 60 but it might be worth 100 in like a couple weeks and then it
Starting point is 00:11:59 might be worth 20 dollars see this is this is interesting because to me it's a more fun way of gambling like i'm not i mean i'm not a card guy and i'm not like going to be at a table like uh uh playing roulette or whatever i just not just not my thing um so and i also i don't know if you've ever been in a casino they can be fun oh yeah but most of the time it's sort of depressing like i mean if you're in vegas the casinos are great if you're in rexdale in ontario it might be a little different you're at the ponies and the guys at the slot machine at the racetrack just pulling that's right and there's no windows and there's no clocks and you don't know what time it is and you don't know which way is north it's weird i will continue to say this we have a lot
Starting point is 00:12:45 of nerve picking on buffalo when niagara is right next door what you mean casino niagara oh dude no not not casino niagara like a specific place but like dude it's there's well there's a i feel bad niagara has a nice street a nice how dare you hey it's a hill it's a hill clifton hill is clifton hill um you know what i have to say the uh uh the casinos down there are way better like we we had one i don't know what it's like in your city but like i remember in calgary there was like casinos everywhere i was like what what's the big deal but in ontario for some reason we've got these old school like puritanical laws that have held back like can't drink outside can't can't do anything. Uh, it was like a big deal back in the day when we started opening up shops on
Starting point is 00:13:32 Sunday. And, uh, and of course there was supposed to be a casino about three years ago. They had downtown Toronto casino, which every major city has, but every, all the religious leaders got together and said, well, guys, this is, this will be the degradation of society as we know it. And as we know, that's not the case, but, uh, and it would have been a huge moneymaker and they would have had another place for bands and music artists to stay the thing i like about local casinos is you have like a 5 000 person amphitheater in there normally and you get to see acts that are sort of mid-range in in toronto you either have somebody that can play to uh you know 50 to 100 people or 5 000 sorry or like 15 000 or 20 000 there is no sort of mid-range arena you know what
Starting point is 00:14:21 mid card yeah they all come to oshawa yeah 100 they do oshawa they do hamilton they'll do seinfeld did oshawa yeah i couldn't believe that when i saw the sign i'm like jerry seinfeld like i'm just picturing him eating it like ted's yeah totally what okay yeah i remember i went and saw um kenny rogers casinorama and it's the only concert i've ever walked into where people parked their walkers at the entrance and then walk to their seat i'm not kidding that's adorable the best part was they did not get up for any song except for the last one so he comes out everybody stays sitting and they're all clapping it's just but for the last song it's all right leave it all on the floor yeah so like you know let's get it the gambler is obviously the last song but he
Starting point is 00:15:10 came out to like ruby and it was like you painted up your lips and blah blah blah and then he like and everybody's like yay but it's like you're you're like at a christmas concert for a kid it was crazy uh that's a big business those uh those buses that pull up at like nursing homes and bring down all the all the folks to the casino you know like that's that's huge business i've heard about it yeah i don't know i don't know much about it i try not to think too much about it the thing with ontario casinos too is that there's like there's the casino and it's inevitably surrounded by forest in every direction because you can't have it near civilization because again degradation of society but you'll have this one little burnt out shotgun shack next button next
Starting point is 00:15:50 door that will convert what will take gold and convert it to money it's like this weird creepy little pawn shop there's one on the way to rama i remember that and it's just it's very it's a very bizarre call have you guys ever been to casino rama yeah yeah i've been have you do you know what i'm talking about on the road like we'll take gold like we'll trade like those those cash cash for your quick cash places you know yeah but it's not like one you would see downtown that even has like bars on the windows or something it's like joe at his local house like it's not it's very bizarre and uh yeah i think rama's a very nice place like that little niagara area is very nice but um i know every year it's a huge deal when the x opens because the x opens with a casino
Starting point is 00:16:32 if for those two weeks in in toronto you get a downtown casino and always there's always people in there yeah but like you play those games where you're trying to throw a ring on a bottle that's just gambling yeah 100 regular packs of hockey cards like you should have seen like i would walk to and from school instead of taking the subway because i wanted to buy hockey cards you can't tell me that's not gambling you can't you can't tell me i wasn't making a decision right you know what i mean well what do you classify as gambling like stock market that's kind of gambling that's gambling i don't know that's what i consider to be gambling anyways so nba nfts awesome gambling you can do at home on a much smaller manageable basis right it's sort of like real estate but
Starting point is 00:17:18 with cards so it's also art collection you know yeah like if you if you think hey this picasso's a speculative asset that's gonna raise i'm gonna buy this picasso for a million dollars and then resell it for two million and in 20 years like that's also a strategy you know you know what next thing is guaranteed people are going to sell frames that are just designed to display your nfts that's already i can tell you right now you it's already done jesse you should yeah those you know how to do that they're they're they're already out there i can pull it off and show you them like digital frames yeah yeah and they're meant to display your display your nfc well it's just they're just displaying the jpeg right and then you throw it up and it's on your wall it's pretty
Starting point is 00:18:02 cool i thought i had a billion dollar idea no no i should delete this part delete this no one steal my idea jesse you've actually got the skills to make those man you should do that you know it's big business i told you just give me a couple weeks you're gonna see the steve dango podcast nfts it's gonna be cool maybe we'll sell some of the podcast episodes of the past like some of the moments whoa it'll be little digital things i'm working i'm working give me some time let me buy smart insider man i was just about to say exactly so you want that moment it'll be in a little nft and you can buy it and then we'll like donate half the proceeds to sick kids and that sort of stuff it's all well that's and i should mention that's what matthews did too he's donating
Starting point is 00:18:49 a portion of his proceeds to sick kids that's great too we love that we love sick kids skates I forgot to bring that up in my LFR. Well, you're an asshole. I know. I'm kidding. You are. Many aren't. So when we do Who Wore the Crown this week,
Starting point is 00:19:05 we're going to do it for the entire week. So we're including the trade deadline in this because we did not do Who Wore the Crown on Monday because obviously it was the trade deadline. There was lots to talk about. Jesse, do you have somebody lined up for today's show? Yes. So first we got to make up for Monday's show
Starting point is 00:19:20 because we didn't do Who Wore the Crown. And so that episode was brought to you by Mahesh, who a good friend of the friend of the show. He donated to Black Girl Hockey Club in honor of the stick stick in the ground campaign. And Mahesh was hoping in lieu of a one liner, Adam could recount the story of how he handled eating a ghost pepper a couple of years ago. Oh, that was easy. And then to close the segment, I'll do today's actual sponsor for. okay why did we why did we do the ghost pepper thing why did i have to eat that what bet did i lose you guys remember i don't remember i don't remember why it was a big lead
Starting point is 00:19:59 up i remember that so it was at regulars bar when we were able to go to bars and do live shows and uh and regulars i believe is still there hanging on by their nails like every other bar in this in the city that's been locked down for 120 something days but um but anyway uh i remember um, that the ghost pepper thing, somebody brought it and it was in a sealed, um, can like case almost like, um, like you would get a weed gummy in, you know, that, like that, that stuff that's like childproof and it's Ziploc, but then there's the thing on top of it that stops it from me anyway. Uh, so it was like a multi-part thing to open this pepper. And I remember putting it in my mouth chewing it a little bit and then swallowing it and nothing absolutely nothing not a and i
Starting point is 00:20:48 just to be clear i can taste things so and i thought okay well i didn't taste anything in my mouth i'm okay but later on i'm probably going to be in trouble fair right again nothing so from what i understand you got a dud peppers are duds oh you dodged a bullet yeah so i eat shishito peppers with dinner all the time like i just put them in a frying pan they're super easy they cook in like two minutes and they're delicious one in ten of those is very hot the rest are just kind of like peppers and uh this particular hot pepper this ghost pepper i think was one of the would be a debt a dud so i got really really lucky because that should have hurt i should have been sweating and and foaming at the mouth and just barfing enormous pain nothing absolutely nothing damn
Starting point is 00:21:35 Yeah, I know. I feel bad. Good for you. That was the night Tavares beat Vegas in overtime. I didn't even know there was a game then. That's how I remember life. It's crazy. By hockey games.
Starting point is 00:21:46 There you go. So, Steve, your memory for that sort of stuff is unbelievable. Here, I want to see how deranged I am. Jesse, can you look up the box score from that night? Leafs beat Vegas. It was 2-1 in overtime. Matthew scored the first one. Tavares got the game winner.
Starting point is 00:22:04 patch already scored the oh i don't know what uh like game it would be or a year like vegas has only played toronto like six times here type in like leafs vegas 2-1 overtime it was patch ready then matthews then tavaris and i think suban stopped 37 to 38 all right i have the game here uh so the game happened on uh november in november right uh-huh so give it to me uh it was patch already scored for vegas yes then matthews in the third period tied it yes and then in overtime marner to tavaris uh he scored the ot winner but suban i want to say was like first or second star of the game because he stopped 37 of 38 oh so so a marner to taveras you got that you nailed it in overtime uh suban was second star okay 35 of 36 damn still really
Starting point is 00:23:08 good what the hell steve or wait no how wait 35 of 36 they scored two goals though or sorry 35 of 37 37 ah damn i was close it was very close that's i don't like that you were close i don't like that either me neither guys i have nothing going on i know i know hockey things can i tell you what i did the other day or do we want to get into who wore the crown uh tell us what you did the other day yeah no it's gonna take a minute that's okay no tell us okay so we're doing my genealogy thing and so i explain what that is so oh yeah sorry so i know leo is going to start asking questions about like family history and everything one day and so i want to have actual answers because my family's a little they know some things but they're a little wishy-washy about them i wish
Starting point is 00:24:00 i was more curious when i was younger i could ask my grandparents more things i didn't so we're doing uh some research i'm doing a bunch of my own i've hired someone to help me um and there's this one family in there um where the name is way far back and but i've luckily someone in their family did a bunch of research and so i've been using that in my genealogy for that part of the family i had some specific questions for them so i just like searched for them and found them and they have this family group on facebook and it's like people from the uk australia new zealand these these are people who are all distantly related to me and they invited me into the group and now i'm just asking them questions and they're giving me like documents and photos and
Starting point is 00:24:42 stuff this is on facebook yeah that's so much fun yeah yeah and i'm and i'm like and i'm like looking at their photos i'm like oh that guy looks like my dad a bit i could see that's what i'm doing i'm watching hockey and doing that because you've got a lot going on a lot going on leo can crawl that's cool great job adam are you gonna who should go first you didn't care about the story no i was listening i've heard it though steve told me right told you we could have waited i'm letting you tell the story what's wrong with that all right hey so uh do i want to want to get the ground okay well let's do it my crown goes to brandon pridham brandon we say this as much as i was uh captain skeptical about the felino trade i still can't wait to see
Starting point is 00:25:36 him here like it's not oh yeah i i'm excited to see him i'm rooting for him i think sometimes when when i say i'm skeptical about a move uh or anybody says they're skeptical about a move everybody thinks well you hate the incoming player no i don't necessarily hate the incoming player sometimes you don't love the price you paid for him but at the same time seems to fit what they want in the lineup that seemed to be what kyle wanted so kyle wanted what kyle got but the idea that the leafs i remember on trade deadline day lease pr which everybody has like starred as a as a notification coming up on twitter like we have assigned nick robertson and i think it was sandin or lilligren to the to the toronto marlies from the taxi squad people
Starting point is 00:26:15 are like what the it's like it's it's trade deadline are you kidding me you can't be tweeting this stuff out like we're expecting big things here is that like 10 in the morning yeah yeah which was great right like i always laugh when that happens i think that when you can organize a deal where you got a guy that goes through another team and they retain and then retain again so you're only playing paying 25 of his salary so you can go get somebody else the um i know that it's it's a pretty simple concept but when you look at the maneuvering brandon pridham has done this year or has advised kyle dubas to do i don't know how it really works um it's it's pretty incredible. They are moving people all the time off the taxi squad on onto the main roster
Starting point is 00:26:58 off the main roster. Like it's just a constant cycle. And you got to think for a guy like Brandon Pridham, who's pretty smart, put together most of what the CBA is, at least on the financial side of things. You got to think that this is kind of getting boring, right? Okay. I know tomorrow I'm going to have to put two guys down that make X amount of dollars. And then the next day I'm have to call them up and then i'll call it put them down the next day he's probably got this plan months in advance the guys play in chess the rest of the nhl agms are playing checkers and the fact that the leafs who still have to retain money on kessel who um have enormous amounts of money wrapped up in that forward group were able to get a forward a defenseman
Starting point is 00:27:39 and a goalie in time for the trade deadline and squeeze it into ltir because freddie's been injured is incredible and and that needs to be talked about a little bit more they've done an amazing job however these trades work out that to me was i think outside of the washington detroit deal which is still a still one that's very very interesting to kind of break down yeah um it's one of the craftier cleverer moves i've seen in the nhl lately and it's nice to see somebody in the nhl making a clever move rather than like a bam bam one for one bang bang bang like there's just it's it seems like these guys finesse deals and then a lot of other GMs are like no I only take a baseball bat so it's it's I'm Brandon Pridham you get my crown thank you well and it
Starting point is 00:28:29 like it goes to the conversation we were having about Ken Holland and the Oilers like I'm not even saying he built a crappy hockey team I don't think that at all like the Oilers are obviously good but like oh yeah we just couldn't couldn't get anything done try harder try harder like brandon pridham is doing the most the absolute most to get the most out of the salary cap whatever the leafs are doing why aren't you why isn't your team and i think if you're a fan of a team that's not doing that you have the right to to ask the question why aren't the oilers doing what the leafs are doing you know what i mean even you can think the oilers are better okay well why aren't you even better than that you could be the Oilers could be I I bet Brandon Pridham
Starting point is 00:29:17 stays up at night thinking I could surround Connor McDavid with Jimmy Vesey and Travis Boyd at the same time be amazing I think that that stuff keeps him up at night and also the the maneuvering guys going up and down taxi squad minors and everything when you lose a player who's making a certain amount i think it screws up his his little equation there and i'm wondering how much losing jimmy vc or boyd complicated matters because no okay we don't have anyone else who makes 900 grand how am i supposed to make this dollar amount work and that's why you've seen like like there have been players called up who i'm willing to bet less than a quarter of leaf fans no exists mac hollowell he's probably going to play in the nhl one day and like joey duzak
Starting point is 00:30:10 do you guys know who joseph duzak is well he was called up to your toronto may police you don't know who he is well brandon pridman miracle maker it just as an aside before you guys get going with your crowns it's sort of funny covet situation aside because we are going to get to the Canucks COVID situation there's a lot to discuss there um it's sort of funny that the Canucks even bothered like what were you well with Travis Boyd and Jimmy Vesey like what were you hoping to do um it makes their team better like they weren't totally out of the playoff picture I mean if Calgary was at 1.4 percent last week to make the playoffs what was Vancouver Well, you know what, though?
Starting point is 00:30:55 Looking at how bad the Habs have been over the last two, three weeks, it's conceivable the Canucks could be in the picture still. But 1.4% for Calgary last week to make the playoffs. Yeah. When was the last time the Canucks played? Two weeks? Vesey and Boyd were free guys, too. Yeah, but for what?
Starting point is 00:31:16 What are you augmenting? Bodies. Hey, don't you have Jay Beagle and Antoine Roussel? no you take you take the free ball uh beagle and or sorry beagle boyd and uh vc okay three guys free hat yeah you don't like hey i don't want your your free hat at the end of the jays game you keep it like no you take the hat and you bring it home you throw in the closet or you throw it on ebay for the weird collectors who are like i want to pay 75 for a blue jay sombrero please i wish i had the sombrero yeah people wear it as a status symbol i was at the
Starting point is 00:31:52 sombrero game people go crazy for those uh jay's promotions here yeah they do yeah they'll be like 15 000 uh tote bags and you'll have a lineup outside the roger center at 11 a.m for a 1 p.m game for the freaking tote bag we uh we were doing a little bit of cleaning and my wife's like remember when we showed up to a jay's game at like 11 o'clock in the morning you did an umbrella oh yeah and i'm like oh yeah and we're just walking around the freaking rogers center going i don't know what do you want to do for two hours yeah i probably signed up for some stupid promotional crap my ex-girlfriend was a um was worked for the blue jays promotions team like 10 years ago and the thing that people people went nuts for the bobbleheads obviously
Starting point is 00:32:41 and uh and it was funny because she said like they will start lining up the night before sometimes that's to be the first 5 000 in and this is when the jays sucked and if they drew 20 000 you'd be lucky i gotta get that ruel mondesi bobblehead right yeah honestly no honestly back then it'd be like oh man give me some ted lily oh yeah is it josh phelps night i gotta line up damn i remember that cory kosky day it was great uh you know just just guy guy i still just love for the guy who was blackout drunk going lyle over me i missed that oh yeah i miss i miss the i love bj's t-shirt guy who's always outside selling the i love bj's t-shirt man he's taking a hit he's oh yeah pandemic's been tough on the i love bj's t-shirts people we miss
Starting point is 00:33:41 people we miss because of the pandemic the i love bj's man uh the drummer the the bucket drummer guy he's like animal he's unbelievable all right everybody going to your go train here's some entertainment yeah yeah yeah my dad would always give him five bucks because you know drummers right tip of the hat hey hey i play the drums also for those who don't know steve's dad is a metal drummer he's an unbelievable drummer too like check out his band atomic tomb that's true my 64 year old father i remember once i when i was in bands i mean me and my buddy alex who's also steve's friend got super drunk and asked him to play with us like and like would
Starting point is 00:34:29 be in our band because we couldn't find a drummer what did my dad say no no yeah he was like no i don't think so he's nice about it that's hilarious nice about it he was really really nice gary's always been great but yeah we started a band he's like yeah okay sure for sure um who wants to go next for their crown we're still doing crowns right the show's gonna be the crowns yeah well This one is, it's like three Steves. Do you want to go? It's just a cat with a laser pointer. Sure, I'll go.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Dave Riddick. Going to give it to big David David. Got to give it to him. I thought he had a good game. Good first game with the Leafs. You're playing your former team. No one knows you better than them. And they only solved them three times.
Starting point is 00:35:21 The first one was, hey, buddy, welcome to the Leafs. No frigging help at all. uh power play goal those are gonna happen and then the overtime winner i mean for god's sakes johnny gaudreau throws on like 20 moves in all alone uh that's a difficult time sometimes you just need a safe he provided them he absolutely provided them and like john said it got him to overtime now i did see some people upset that the Leafs would put Big Saved David in that position and play him in that game.
Starting point is 00:35:54 And what you're not understanding is goalies are weird, but Riddick is a Czech goalie who are weird amongst weirdos. Czech goalies, Dominic Hasek, Peter Morazic. Weird. Both weird and Big Saved David. He lives for the challenge. he rode the plane with the flames on the way to the game absolutely hilarious and he performed very well uh i thought uh given the circumstances so i'll give dave riddick the clown i do have a
Starting point is 00:36:29 almost a clown quick coaching question for you guys though if and this goes for pitchers and stuff too if the team knows him that well does that put the leafs at a disadvantage apparently not i mean he played great he knows them well too the kachuk snowing was sort of like i laughed i laughed too i laughed i wanted to be mad but i'm like ah that's kind of cute yeah uh jesse so this will be quick because i was also going to give my crown to david riddick for the very specific reason that he rode the plane with the boys back over to uh toronto so after the game lucic was asked about it and he said that it was nice because they got to say goodbye and you don't really get to have that opportunity and then Riddick was asked about it
Starting point is 00:37:17 and he said uh let me just pull up the quote here he said it was okay a lot of chirps some guys didn't hold back but at least I had a chance to say goodbye to them so I'm gonna deduce from Lucci saying it was great and Riddick saying it was okay a lot of chirps that they gave it to him for what's the flight from Calgary to Toronto it's at least four hours I assume it was a roast we've all been in a locker room yes it must have been
Starting point is 00:37:49 a roast fest for four hours in David's ear so he gets the crown for that because I don't think Kachuk is holding back at all when he knows that you're now the enemy and about to play you and you have guys on that team like Lucic who aren't going to hold
Starting point is 00:38:05 back either so yeah crown goes to Riddick just for riding that plane and enduring that from his flames buddies i'm just i'm just picturing like someone walking up and down the aisle all right who wants sandwiches johnny gaudreau i i want one okay johnny here's your sandwich all right who else wants one sean monahan i'd like one please oh okay here you go sean uh who else wants a sandwich i want one says david shut up david i'm not even on this team anymore don't give him a sandwich don't give it to him what do you all want he gets last pick you get eggplant aunt dave shut up you're not even on the flames anymore just torture for four hours oh yeah
Starting point is 00:38:39 awful brave man tarmac brave man for getting on that now since this is a double sponsored who wore the crown segment jesse who's our next crown sponsor so you guys are gonna love this one it's from it's from saul and it has a special connection to you adam and steve specifically so i'm gonna read i'm gonna read his message here so saul says as a former sick kids patient i decided to make the most of it and do something I've wanted to do for so long and start a monthly donation to their foundation of $50. Yay. So thank you for doing that. I want to give back on it, even if it's a small level, but I want to help back to the people that help kids and help me when I was down some info for the sponsorship when it happens. My name is Saul. I'm from Port Union in Scarborough.
Starting point is 00:39:24 Hey, so a former Mowat high school student like Steven Adam. Also like Steve, I was in Dragon boat during grade 11 under Mr. Maddow. And I was in Dragon Boat 2. How's your back? Just like Steve talked about in his book. I know it might be some time before it happens, but it's all good. I'm patient with it and honestly
Starting point is 00:39:45 so glad to see all the donations to charities. Thanks. Keep up the great work. So there you go. Amazing. That's incredible. Adam, can you make up a liner for all of that? If you want to grow up right, why not? Why not? Grow up at Port Union in lawrence the only place that good people grow up in that's why there's so few of us
Starting point is 00:40:03 because lawrence that's the that's the good people factory that's it that's it it's just us sorry jesse adam chris draper oh the bare naked ladies the bare naked ladies paul tracy mumbles through luca magna paul tracy paul tracy was kind of a dick yeah yeah but was yeah huge dick yeah what oh paul tracy on the court oh yeah dude alex tagliani uh was another canadian race car driver like called him a fucking asshole in a in an interview like yeah he's like he's a fucking asshole like you know it was very he's a paul tracy's a dick but he was very good at what he did he's i think i have no idea yeah oh yeah listen it doesn't mean he's a dick in person i don't know what he's like but on the track everybody hated him he's one of the guys
Starting point is 00:40:52 who um there's like signed pictures of him hanging up in certain stores around the neighborhood um jingles that were uh it's a hair salon where you go to get your hair cut paul tracy's hanging up there chris draper is hanging up there he's also hanging up at the black dog pub and at mr bean coffee and isn't davante smith pelly from our area too yes he is he uh brought the stanley cup to the black dog like chris draper did and wayne simmons will yeah that is he i feel like okay adam based on what you know of the neighborhood would he bring it to the black dog or stone cottage oh black dog yeah okay stone cottage is too so cottage is too far out of the way you gotta you gotta travel like 10 minutes up kingston road for that but they carry granville
Starting point is 00:41:35 island and i like true anyway very true my band played there once there you go oh i knew i knew that's why i hated it well it's you know what's funny is like i think about it now um i'm pretty sure i couldn't get in the night you guys played yeah yeah because we were like 16 and i guess the laws i don't know if they've changed now but you could be in a band and 16 and in a bar playing but you could not be drinking but you could be the entertainment hilarious weird anyway when west jet first took flight in 1996 the vibes were a bit different people thought denim on denim was peak fashion inline skates were everywhere and two out of three women rocked the rachel while those things stayed in the 90s one thing that hasn't is that fuzzy feeling you get when
Starting point is 00:42:15 west jet welcomes you on board here's to west jetting since 96 travel back in time with us and actually travel with us at WestJet.com slash 30 years. All right, so let's get into the show here a little bit. I mean, I guess we're in it. But just quickly on the Leafs, Austin Matthews left practice today. He will be unavailable for the game tonight, but Sheldon Keefe doesn't think the injury
Starting point is 00:42:36 is going to keep him out long. We don't really know much more than that. We do know that Adam Brooks kind of switched jerseys out with him. We'll see who's in the lineup tonight. William Nylander will be back, and Rodan Amirov signs his three-year entry-level contract because I believe the KHL season's done, isn't it? It is, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:53 Well, they started basically on time. Yeah, because it's Russia. Yeah, and so the unique thing this year is their season typically isn't done until after the trade deadline. And you're not able to, even if a guy could come over, he wouldn't be able to play on your playoff roster.
Starting point is 00:43:14 But this year's been very different. Rodion Amirov won't be available to the Leafs even if they wanted him during the playoffs because he only just signed, but he can play on the Marley's and they've worked it into his agreement where they can loan them to the KHL. And according to Dan Milstein, everyone's favorite Russian agent, he will be training with the Leafs development staff in the off season. So that's, that's great.
Starting point is 00:43:40 He'll be, he'll be getting instruction from the Leafs and guidance from the Leafs during the off season. And then he'll be playing against a big ass crone men in arguably the second best league in the world third at worst uh over there in the khl that's pretty good pretty good um well maybe he stays with the marlies next year right it sounds like um he'll be going to the khl if he does not make the nhl i think is the agreement all right cool makes the most money that way oh yeah yeah it says uh they're expected to loan him for next season is the report yeah
Starting point is 00:44:17 that's good awesome news um and i guess you know kind of going into the game tonight's game there isn't really much to say we'll see what happens it'll be nice to have willie back um but it'll it'll be interesting to see because i don't think he's back no apparently he's back oh i think he needs one more negative test i don't think he's available tonight i will is he am i wrong on that i hope i'm wrong robertson i thought no no not robertson um uh neil enter oh robertson and brooks are both in oh which would mean nylander's not nylander uh matthews won't play against jets nylander close to return oh okay yeah friday so friday is his date so they are pretty short-handed you know this is kind of good though like at this point who cares right it's it's sort of
Starting point is 00:45:07 let's get some other guys some games and see what we have in terms of depth right like nick felina will be here soon uh and uh you know you're gonna have you know a crowding of wingers i'd also like to see and this is going to be a very unpopular thing to say i'd like to see joe thornton be effective no that's not unpopular dude you can't uh if he was named anything other than joe thornton he'd be out of the lineup um he's also paid like league men you know yeah like it's not it's not anything against the guy no but uh for god's like here let me let me go through his his game by game and i know he battled an injury and etc etc etc so he comes out of the gate
Starting point is 00:45:52 preposterous so no points no points two none none two one three one one nothing one since that he's got one assist and that was march 13th that was his last point it was over a month ago if you want to put it that way now the most he's played in a game is just under 15 minutes he's he's mostly around 12 13 ish but for god's sake you gotta be you gotta be contributing You got to get something in there. And he's part of the power play, too. I'm less concerned with his lack of production in five-on-five and far more concerned with the fact that he's still in the power play
Starting point is 00:46:42 and the power play has been garbage. So you have no Matthews, no Nylander tonight. I bet you they score on the power play. I mean, Adam Brooks, that was his first NHL goal against the Oilers without Matthews. And I think it was Spezza passed it and it just bounced off him. There you go. whatever they all count don't ask how ask how many all that shit and he's from winnipeg so it
Starting point is 00:47:05 means something for him okay okay cool i'm just being pierre mcguire about all this i'm sorry i think it'll be i i'm i'm curious to see how it'll go i think this is one of those weird interesting games like i remember when the leafs were terrible like horrendously bad not like right after the horacek era because they weren't supposed to be bad but the next year when they were the first season with Babs and like you know Kadri you know trying to train him and Morgan Riley getting the worst minutes in the history of man and Michael Grabner being snake bit the whole season whatever I found those games interesting because it was like a petri dish it's like let's just throw a bunch of shit out on the ice and see what happens and I think tonight
Starting point is 00:47:48 is a little bit of that obviously you want to see this team compete play like a playoff team etc etc but I like when you have new members in the lineup because it just feels like after a while um you know every game when you're watching is like geez i hope they win this and it's nice to not have that stress it's like well if they don't win this it's not the end of the world and also they're playing a whole bunch of new guys who'll be interesting to watch do you know what i'm saying absolutely here can i can i read you the lines and then also the power play love it let's do it so they've gone full-blown line line blender so this is from kristen she always posts the lines it's gouch tavaris marner so they've just taken
Starting point is 00:48:24 Tavares moved him up one slot nice and easy second line Hyman Kerfoot McHale okay uh Thornton Engvall Simmons okay and Robertson Brooks Spezza which is that's full-blown petri dish that is that's guessing that's fun that's putting on a blindfold and throwing a dart um and then the defense is the same looks like campbell's gonna get the start the power play uh funny that we should uh be talking about joe thornton so the top unit is riley on the back end hyman eating pucks with his mouth and then galchenyuk tavaris marner the second unit muzzin who i've noticed has taken the place of brody recently pretty good yep uh he is there with robertson robertson slotting in on the power play thornton spezza simmons so that's the grumpy old man plus muzzin
Starting point is 00:49:22 and child uh power play unit uh i hope they get a dumb one i have a feeling too if they ever score on the power play ever again before we all die uh they're gonna get like three in the same game yeah it's gonna be dumb like isn't that just how it works that's how percentages seem to work right it all evens out but you it's like dry dry dry hot hot hot that sort of thing that's what i mean their power play has like if you you can divide the season it's literally the best and the worst the the least power play is probably ranked 15th but it's never been middle of the pack it's either been the best or a bag of shit there it is there's the first one we'll see how many i get in this episode do you guys have any takeaways from anderson skating today and going on the road
Starting point is 00:50:13 with the team as well good i think it's good to have them there yeah i don't know like it it would seem unfair to like remember the lou lamorello if you're injured you don't even show your face at the arena remember that i always thought that was getting better and no i think that's i don't know i think that's a bit is it a sign that maybe he gets a start within the next seven day is seven games ish sure seems like that and then what do you what's what you so we're carrying three goalies now like what's i'm gonna read i'm gonna read what cj said um on his uh he said it's not clear if they'd even be able to make the roster moves necessary to activate him before the start of the playoffs which may end up being a moot discussion because it doesn't sound like
Starting point is 00:50:58 he'll be healthy enough to play anytime soon according to sheldon keith the fact that he's back out here today and skating uh and skating previously because this is not the first time he's skated apparently it's a good sign he's making progress i don't think he's close at this point to actually playing but this is all part of the process my understanding is he's going to come on the road with us so that's very very encouraging it's a really really good to have him back out there at his gear and i think i think that's part of you know if you're the leafs management now i mean yeah you want to win the north division and that's cool whatever that's great you want to do that. You want to have home ice advantage. I get it. But more importantly is you want to have a
Starting point is 00:51:33 room full of guys that absolutely would die for each other. You look at how, how the Carolina hurricanes are. And I love referencing them because they are team spirit all the way. And they have been for three or four years. They will run through a brick wall for their coach and for each other. And Freddie Anderson is a popular guy in that dressing room. They just love. And you can see why. I mean, he, he saved their ass for three and a half years and he's also a really good person and so having him miss out on what potentially could be their best shot you know because he's injured not only seems a little unfair it just it just would suck the air out of the room a little bit and suck the joy out of it because you'd be like freddie i wish you were
Starting point is 00:52:11 here it doesn't feel right at home rehabbing you know what i mean yeah i i know i know it's a business you got to get better any way that you can but there's something about the way he helped this team come up that just tossing them to the side like dirty laundry the yuck yucky i don't like it like if he ends up losing his job to campbell or hell even riddick uh fine but let him let him lose it like jesse made the point you can't lose your job to injury and you certainly can't lose your job to injury after four and a half years of being this team's starting goaltender it's not fair maybe you can maybe you can maybe it's performance guys depends on what depends on what game in the playoffs it is yeah oh no if he plays game one in his shit get out of here
Starting point is 00:53:02 but like but at least that's him playing a game you got the opportunity to lose it jack campbell jack campbell starting in the playoffs guys all right we'll see we've had this conversation that is inevitably how it's gonna go but they're gonna give freddy fight you i will go to i will drive to oshawa and refledge your basement and shut off okay okay let's not go saying reckless shit how dare you ptsd every time it rains i touch the floor make sure it's okay at least your basement looks incredible now i know amazing anyway because i haven't had any scoundrels in it for yeah 14 months he might be broke but he's got a nice basement yeah now warm now and your dogs haven't pissed in it for a long time adam jesse both of
Starting point is 00:53:45 you that's true hey my dog pissed in the basement and by the front door so true she she marked all of her territory didn't bindi take a shit in this very room just gonna say every time every time bindi came over she shit in your house and she doesn't shit in anyone's house i don't know why and then she shit in your fucking office man i don't i don't get it i don't understand charlie and her fought r.i.p charlie yeah yeah yeah remember um charlie was great because i've never seen a more food-driven dog in my entire life i had a bag oh and it was like a it was like it's a converse bag but it's like a duffel bag it's a really nice bag nice bag and i brought food down for bindi because i was staying overnight and yes this is one of the times bindi shit in steve's
Starting point is 00:54:29 house and uh anyway so i wanted to make sure i had food to feed her in the morning whatever charlie sniffed it out he should have been a bomb sniffing dog the guy was his nose was unbelievable in real life like laser focused so i go to my bag later on and there's a huge hole in it and two two like the clothes are nicely gently put off to the side the plastic container is in somehow is popped open don't ask me how it wasn't like it was torn apart it was just popped open and every single morsel of food was gone i wasn't even upset because it was so clean like he left it like it was in the dishwasher it was unbelievable that dog man every single time it was iggy going you'll be hanged for this and charlie said no i'm gonna get chewed out i've
Starting point is 00:55:15 been chewed out before or uh james franco on the uh with his the rope around his neck first time yeah first time um okay so i i do want to talk about the connect situation because i think there's there's so much about this that is a bit troublesome so last i think it was last episode of the episode before i even said pretty sure they're gonna play again and i would think that the players would want to play again but you know what i didn't say at the time and what i should have said was that if the players don't want to play how can you compel them to right and if they have legitimate health concerns how can you compel them to i wouldn't feel bad about that adam you can't say every damn thing like i think something should go without saying like no if they don't
Starting point is 00:56:00 want to play you force them like no as you have do you have miller's quote there um i do you have it i can definitely pull it up well yeah because i've got um do i have miller's quote i've got oh yeah i've got the thomas drance tweet um which drance stuff is extremely important and while you pull that up i'll give some context there so i got it but go ahead you got it well so thomas strands covers the canucks uh he previously did for canucks army then he was hired by the florida panthers in a pr role now he's back with the canucks uh well not with the canucks sorry uh covering the canucks for the athletic and he was asked some questions not just about the canucks but how they approach this from a pr angle and basically the decision to allow jt miller to
Starting point is 00:56:44 speak yeah so i have it here uh it was on it was on zoom it's jt miller speaking on behalf of on behalf of his teammates about concerns they have on the nhl rushing them to return to play he says i don't feel ready at all i was fortunate not to get sick but you feel for your teammates i kind of felt guilt here and there and all i could think about was how how do we all stay healthy out of all of this just want to make sure everyone in their families stay healthy i haven't really thought about hockey much but it's kind of crazy i know everyone has a job to do but to expect our entire team to be ready to play in one practice in a pregame skate is a bit hard to comprehend even for me sitting around and not doing much my lungs are screaming it's
Starting point is 00:57:28 frustrating we try to talk about our number one priority is our players health and their family safety it's impossible to achieve that with what they're being asked to do what we're being asked to do is not going to be too safe if you're asking me and then uh jt miller's asked bluntly should you be playing and he says i don't want to be caught agreeing with you jt miller says there's a lot of moving parts but i don't know it's unfortunate that we're even in a scenario like this this is nothing to do with hockey to be brutally honest we're going to need more time than this to come back and play even the guys that didn't get it aren't ready and to give you an idea of how fly by the seat of your pants this all is since we started the show john shannon
Starting point is 00:58:10 tweeted oilers versus canucks tomorrow night has been postponed understandable then he followed up with at this time 3 20 eastern time the maple leafs are still hoping to fly to vancouver tomorrow for hockey night on saturday which seems impossible i don't think they're gonna play no and there's been an aspect with this whole with covid obviously in the nhl in the nba and nfl like i've i've been very motherly about it oh everyone be safe and wear a jacket you know uh that's that's just my nature being raised by an italian woman but um you know adam has been very big on you gotta try though like you can't just we can't just all be you know well it's the pandemic let's give up yeah let's give up on everything you gotta try and you can if you try and fail oh you know shucks
Starting point is 00:59:08 and you you took every precaution and everything and safety is paramount um and you know know when to pull the chute and everything but you got to try so that's why i've been softer on no this this shouldn't be happening and that shouldn't be happening this canucks thing though i'm inching towards like dude it's april 15th uh they're not going to play april 16th we just agreed that they're probably not going to be playing april what would that be 17th yeah for what was the plan they were going to play back-to-backs coming out of this shit yeah that was that was literally the plan stupidity and like i know you gotta try but the canucks have what two weeks worth of games now to to uh basically make up the season's supposed to be done in less than a month
Starting point is 01:00:04 this is inching towards you pull the shoot on their entire the rest of the season and you know the there are options available for that like you just switch to winning percentage like the canucks aren't going to make the playoffs anyway cancel the cannot games and you decide the division on winning percentage i mean it's like why not yeah it's like you said they weren't going to make it anyway um i mean they they could have theoretically but like it if the players were chomping at the bit to get back and you know what we're gonna make the playoffs and this and that like adam goddett by the way sort of underrated storyline they sure kind of made it seem like he was traded because of this yet i wanted to say that too i read a few clippings after the show
Starting point is 01:00:49 and i was like i'm surprised that they're saying this it was weird because oh there was a whole bunch of reports about him being quote patient number one like he was the first person on the team to get covid and then that led to his being traded which that doesn't sound right you know and like he was sick like he didn't just have it and was a carrier he was ill right um so extremely okay so why say it why say it at all number one number two why say it if they're unless they want to put across a message of this guy was irresponsible that's what it says to me i'm not saying listen i'm not saying that he was but doesn't it leave you with that sort of taste in your mouth and that makes me wonder why the canucks did that like even slippery slope though
Starting point is 01:01:38 if you're if you're trying to get that narrative out in the media that oh this guy he got covid like no it's a viral disease but why was it said several and i agree with you jesse but why then would you say it several times i don't know why is it every publication about the trade it'll come out eventually i i think it'll come out eventually i mean people probably know the story i haven't heard anything i'm not being coy um and like i was worried too like uh the marlies uh are basically on lockdown right now or whatever because they uh i think they had a positive test um and then it's like nick robertson was just there and he just played the habs and the flames and how are we going to treat this and supposedly he's fine nylander it sounds like i mean once you're in
Starting point is 01:02:25 protocol you got to do it for a week it doesn't sound like he ever actually had it um so that's good he's got to produce another negative test i assume if he tested positive we would have learned something there this is really it sounds like everyone is taking the precautions here with god debt it's a mystery i guess we'll never know but the outbreak with the canucks was really bad um and it's not even just the players who were asking to skate a million miles an hour and use their lungs to max capacity after having a basically virus of the lungs um it's their families right and uh what was it hammock travis hammock didn't go to the bubble because uh something to do with his daughter think she has a lung condition or something like that like these
Starting point is 01:03:12 players have to worry about their families right and and just like on on miller going on zoom and doing that whole thing it was so apparent to me that it was serious from a hockey perspective because a hockey player said something like how rare is it that you get uh a guy who's currently in the nhl being honest with the media and the fact that miller's up there just baring his soul about how the guys on the team don't want to play that's a complete opposite attitude of the button up hey you get out there and you play no matter what these guys play with all these injuries all the time they put a broken broken limbs broken bones fractured whatever and the fact that they're coming out and being like no we can't play tomorrow this is ridiculous that
Starting point is 01:03:56 just saying it means a lot and like yesterday we even saw um jason tatum he's a basketball player for the boston celtics he came out yesterday he's 23 years old and he said after he got covid since he was uh since his positive test and since he was sick and he had to quarantine all that he's been using an inhaler pre-game every single game because his lungs aren't ready he's a professional athlete at 23 years old you can't get higher peak conditioning than jason tatum in in the world and he's using an inhaler because his lungs aren't at capacity yet and he's out there playing but he he needs it every single time so i can't imagine these canucks guys being like hey we need we can't play tomorrow and what they're going through just listen to them yeah
Starting point is 01:04:40 like we're talking about guys who could potentially never be the same again all right well yeah we're asking them to play the second they're cleared we we could be talking about that i prefer not to get into that too much because of course so depressing of course Of course, of course. Sure. But Steve, you're also 100% right. It could be. We just don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:03 And that's the part. And here's my question in all of this, when I saw all of this, what's the harm in waiting a week? Give them some time. Give them a week. What do we lose? It seems so irresponsible.
Starting point is 01:05:18 One of the games? What do we lose? All right. a lot of a lot of the the things i was reading was some of the the upper management on the other teams are worried about like draft lottery odds like if the if the teams don't play other games how are you going to determine the lottery odds is it fair you know and stuff like that but there there are you can play if you want to play all the non-playoff implication games after the season maybe like there are options for that if you want to do points percentage just do send them on ea
Starting point is 01:05:47 sports nhl 21 do yeah i have them all play video games i hate that so much like you can't come up with a solution like dude the the 2005 draft lottery which determined where sydney crosby went and frankly where pittsburgh whether pittsburgh kept their franchise or not their team existed honest to god honest and it was just a metal thing full of ping pong balls don't coin for every game like heads vancouver wins tails they lose like i have an idea if you're going to decide the standings on winning percentage why not do the same with the draft lottery i'll hang up and uh listen to your answer there it is there are solutions and anyone who complains about it i think you're well within your uh your right to tell him to shut the hell up what else do you want
Starting point is 01:06:39 us to do greg or whoever greg shut up greg sorry sorry oh the draft lottery okay everyone we're gonna stop prioritizing everything else to do with this nightmare of a season that we've somehow pulled off because greg wants us to put together fair was that your word greg fair greg who is six years old would like the draft lottery to be fair for his shitty team and the only reason he's asking is because they're shitty greg i'm sorry is that fair to say that they're shitty good teams wouldn't ask me that question sorry what were you saying i don't know who that conversation was between that i just acted out no but it's a fair greg is greg now karen it seems like the nhl is going to come to a reasonable conclusion like with what you were just saying there steve about
Starting point is 01:07:35 them canceling uh tomorrow i assume they'll cancel saturday and they'll have some scheduled dates and they might make vancouver play but they should come to a reasonable conclusion if if i might say something so bold to this point i don't think the nhl has done that bad of a job handling things generally it doesn't seem like it no like considering a few outbreaks that sort of thing. So my message to them is don't fuck it up now. You're right there. You know, most of the American players can get a vaccine already. How great is that? Amazing. Good for you. You're almost through it. Just fucking hang on. Let the non-playoff team have a breath, hang out with their families, take a week off. The Aquilines can afford it. It'll be okay. And understand that
Starting point is 01:08:27 there is a global crisis here and, and I think they will, I think they'll come to that conclusion. Now I'm not saying the NHL has been perfect. And I know I'm going to get a bunch of tweets going, well, what about this? And what about that?
Starting point is 01:08:38 And you're right. But honestly, if you were the NHL you and you were running the NHL, you would have made mistakes too. This is just something that we have. No, there's no way to know how this is all going to go. Right.
Starting point is 01:08:49 Like people have criticized the schedule and I'm like, ah, I think it's miraculous. They've been able to pull it off. The one thing I'd say, you're absolutely within your right to um criticize was making the Oilers play on the day of the memorial of Colby Cave well that was that was idiotic yeah that that's ridiculous but other than that I think they've done a pretty miraculous job with the schedule yeah and I and you know I
Starting point is 01:09:14 know the NBA and the NHL both have complained about the fact that the schedules are compressed but this is what we're in right now so to play or don't play what is the other option yeah what is exactly so anyway long story short i do want to give the nhl credit there i give them credit for very little but they deserve credit for this this is a lot of work and they've had few outbreaks people thought it was going to be absolute fucking pandemonium and when dallas i think in florida went down early there was a couple teams that yeah um you know and i don't think dallas has been the same buffalo buffalo had their outbreak and st louis went down and uh before the bubble yeah right and i i feel bad because i've been pumping dallas's tires but i think they lost a
Starting point is 01:09:54 goalie and radula for the rest of the year so uh my prediction might not be great although the right freaking nerd the right third keep pushing dallas i mean all predictions are subject to change well no i don't think there's anything wrong with that no no no no no no if i say it i'm doubling down on it so go dallas okay i mean chicago's got a better shot at this point but uh it's not looking good but we'll try anyway long story short give the nhl credit until this point don't fuck it up now right and just just your point adam anybody who's getting anything done in this pandemic needs like hey you get points the fact that you are getting things done while the world is crumbling hey pat on the back high five like i'm proud of you that's it it's like
Starting point is 01:10:42 this is a lot of stuff is going on in the world and we're all trying hard and everybody's trying their best we're all doing good as long as you keep trying yeah relative to how shitty things are yeah good work everyone good work society so good work i want to mention this to eric francis had a story at sportsnet.ca about uh the calgary flames new arena which they desperately need and they need it for more than just hockey it's very important that you know if they ever want to attract any other major sports to that, to that city, which could easily support it with the amount of money that flows through there. Um, and frankly, if they want to attract big gate concerts, like, you know, when I was there, I think I talk about this all the time, like ACDC
Starting point is 01:11:23 and Taylor Swift would do two nights in Edmonton rather than one night in Calgary and one night in Edmonton because Calgary people would drive up the road and see it at Rexall rather than, and that's the old Edmonton arena too. They'd rather do that than play at the saddle dome because the saddle little dips and there's a whole bunch of challenges structurally there that you know they can't accommodate some major major concert shows uh it's time for a new arena but uh after the closed door meeting on and i'm going to read this directly from eric francis on to update city counselors on the status of calgary's 550 million dollar event center the project manager sent a statement to sportsnet confirming plans have ground to a halt said at this early stage of
Starting point is 01:12:03 the project there is a difference in the current budget estimate and the program requirements for the facility aka they don't have enough money yet given the significance and importance of the project the parties have jointly agreed to pause the project and uh project team to allow time to resolve these challenges meaning they want the world to get back to normal so you know it's a bummer for flames fans i feel for them because i think i mean the the saddle dome is a great barn but it's only really good for hockey and uh you know and smaller shows and that's a bummer and And I think the city of Calgary deserves a better sportsplex. And imagine if the Flames organization had not spent three years
Starting point is 01:12:40 fighting the mayor on this, they might actually have it built. Oh, I know. I know. It's just rich people trying to squeeze as much money, yada, yada, yada. I think we've already covered this. The Saddledome, though, I love the idea of it. And the aerial shot always looks so cool. But it's one of those things where it's like,
Starting point is 01:12:59 oh, it seemed like a good idea at the time. it looks cool from the outside and then you get in there and you're like oh yeah how are we supposed to get anything done yeah right yeah sports arenas are such a scam on cities by billionaires like stop stealing tax money to build your toy places well and how are your own arenas how are you asking for 70 million or whatever it was from a municipality now right now at this moment in frigging history really you're asking for tax money for it shut up build it you're rich it's comrade steve showing up again but like well i mean come on uh if if you really want to get technical about it the idea that the people of a city pay for a private arena is socialism
Starting point is 01:13:48 uh that's corporate socialism you're subsidizing um a rich person or a person at all when you subsidize somebody for an expense that they would normally have to incur that's a there's socialist tendencies there and that's what that is it's corporate socialism so you know these guys are you know and calgary's quite to the right of scale shall we say uh as is the province of alberta and and it's funny because these big corporate guys are like no right wing right wing right wing until it's us and then we would really like 550 million dollars please i like the um i read this thing about there not being any billionaires anymore and it's like when you reach a billion dollars you should just get a plaque that says you won capitalism yeah like you won and here's
Starting point is 01:14:33 acknowledgement that you won capitalism you beat it you beat it on legendary now every everything up to 999 whatever you hand that over now see i wouldn't i would if if we're getting crazy i wouldn't even stop there what i would say is forget stopping or preventing billionaires or whatever you want to call it what you do is you base it on percentage of how much the average person makes um because billionaires like the the a millionaire minimum wage hikes are good a millionaire 100 years ago would be equivalent to a billionaire now right that's how money works right it's with the with the inflation that we're dealing with that's what red dead taught me so to think it you know in that sense i think you need to do on a percentage basis that's just
Starting point is 01:15:20 anyway long story short let's uh let's get to the press conference because we are running out of time gentlemen that's wild i feel like the show just began i know you had a fun beginning there i enjoyed talking about the nfts it's kind of fun to talk about it in not a three-minute segment because whenever right i because it's a complicated subject and whenever i hear um because it's really only hockey night canada and i guess the sports net panel that's really covered it i haven't heard tsn tackle it um it always feels like i've got more questions than answers like the first time i heard elliot talk about it was like okay but i have this this and this and this and this so it's nice to talk to you guys about it and actually get an in-depth of how does this work and can i
Starting point is 01:16:00 okay i'm paying this money can i sell this money how do i buy it like all that stuff it's kind of good to get into the little nitty-gritty stuff of it so when i saw frege talk about that on headlines nfts for the first time or top shot i texted him and i'm like you know what my buddy actually knows a lot about this justin fisher on oh yeah huge huge top shot guy he's doing really well with it and so i connected them and he ended up featuring uh featuring fisher in 31 thoughts talking about top shot fisher yeah and like getting a fred van vliet card for his mom and like but that that segment it's like it's not meant for 90 like talking about nfts isn't meant for your 90 second hit like elliot's got like two minutes 90 seconds to get out his point
Starting point is 01:16:48 and you can't you can't really dive deep into digital cards in that moment and i'm not blaming elliot right i feel like if you're gonna do that just devote the whole block to it just get into The other thing with today's show is we spoke for like half an hour before the show began. Just being pals. Just being friends. We've seen each other at the same time,
Starting point is 01:17:11 all three of us, once. This entire time. When we had to go to the bank to register something. That's it. Jesse came over to drop off the merch recently. Adam, I don't even...
Starting point is 01:17:28 I think the last time I saw you, Leo was having the worst day of his life. Yeah, he was miserable, and I came to your front door and knocked on it to drop something off. And then shortly after you left, he pooped. I have seen you so few times that there's a package that somebody had delivered to the station last year in January for Leo, and I keep forgetting to give it to you. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:17:48 And I have it in my truck, and I have not had the chance to get it to you because we've been on lockdown for so long. The hockey cards that showed up. Oh, I guess, yeah, you should tell Jesse. You should tell Jesse. so jesse hockey cards show up in our mailbox and we don't know who sent them and so what what is our address what's going on steve you got to be more responsible like i caught shit for it and it turns out we find out like a month later it was adam sending me them for my
Starting point is 01:18:16 birthday oh i just texted them i was like by the way did the the cards arrive because i knew they'd be late and then i guess they had uh and didn't know it i thought it said it was going to come from i thought it was going to say my name on it or something but i know it's just cards showed up i'm like okay i thought i wasn't there a felix podman rookie in there i think so yeah there was i remember podvin for sure yeah you guys want a trivia question from marco hell yeah let's go all right do you know how many goals away austin matthews is from the top 10 all-time on the leafs list how many can i ask how many he already has uh in his career 210 is number 10 by the way oh did you look it up no i know that because i tweeted about it about a month ago
Starting point is 01:19:10 i think it's bob polford or something like that you just ruin it well i i didn't because jesse didn't give you how many he has but i would say i think he's within he's within 35 i would say okay so i'm just gonna tell you so ted kennedy is at 230 and number 10 austin matthews is 41 goals away from the top 10 so next year austin matthew is gonna get into like the top 10 all time in Toronto Maple Leafs history and goals. And what is Sundin? Because he'd be in the 400s. Sundin is the
Starting point is 01:19:47 all-time leader in goals for the franchise. He is at 420. That's very nice. Can't wait till Matthews is 69 away. Wow! He gets that record, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Do you think he sticks around for what? It's going to take, what, 10 years, maybe? Yep. Seven years? Seven years from now in the bank for 40 a year at this point with no barring, no injuries he's got over his last 82 games. He has over 60 goals. I say it takes him five seasons at about 40 a season.
Starting point is 01:20:23 And I definitely think he's sticking around. Cause I, I know, I think, I think it's pretty clear that outside of what the Leafs can pay them, which is whatever they want. The ancillary benefits of playing for this franchise are huge. and like it was it's what made me laugh so hard when brian burke was like oh he's gonna go to
Starting point is 01:20:42 the the arizona coyotes well you know what kind of a shit show the coyotes organization are now uh this was before the the current owner who has brought stability the previous guy was worse like i what do you mean he's going to arizona why uh until they figure their shit out they're not going to attract any star players nobody wants to stay there and uh and and so anyway long story short i don't think like i can understand like when you look at like panarin leaving columbus you can understand the guy wants to make him you know 11 million dollars a year and play in new york new york's pretty cool that's a great place to live sure uh toronto's pretty awesome when it comes to hockey i'm pretty confident they're going to be able to hang on
Starting point is 01:21:25 to them unless there's some sort of souring of relations which i don't see because he's austin matthews and you do what you can to keep them happy is it safe to say that austin matthews currently plays for the most popular hockey team on planet earth yes probably why would you ever why would you ever give that up voluntarily if you're if you're a person like austin matthews who seems to thrive in this condition the the only exception is i go back to something i've said in the past there is no bad place to be rich so he can go wherever he wants but remember like training people like what they get older and you know all the other things the leafs offer that other teams just don't have i think the rangers maybe boston maybe philly have some similar things
Starting point is 01:22:12 going on obviously the rangers do they're the most valuable franchise in the sport well i just i remember tobias lindbergh coming from the sands of the leafs and he gets to the marlies and he's like oh your goalie coach goes on the road you know and this was like pre panini right so it's it's just one of those things like i wonder i'd love to know like maybe like a connor brown like he's obviously loving ottawa shout out to connor brown by the way goals in eight straight games but i i'd love to know if he like reached for something once like some sort of ipad or whatever oh oh you don't have those oh you guys don't oh okay no no i'll figure it out it's fine it's fine it's fine i just i would love to know if someone has ever left the leafs and gone to their new
Starting point is 01:22:57 team and gone oh yeah oh i don't get a massage after this game oh where's your massage there guys and i had seven goals last year where is my universal love do you remember last year in the bubble when we got all the stories about inside the bubble and how the rich teams got like the buffet spreads and the free uber eats and all that stuff and then some of the lesser teams didn't get that stuff i'm sure it happens all the it was uh it was washinsky who did the article did he not um i think so who did the inside the bubble uh expose uh anyways i might be misremembering who wrote it but yeah i'm sure it happens like the rich teams definitely have all these ancillary uh benefits to playing for them yeah if you're if you're looking for a parody complete parody
Starting point is 01:23:47 like the nhl is you're never gonna get it no never happened so it's about you know having a stable good organization and trying to give every team the bare minimum um and i think there's certain reasons that you sign with certain teams i think austin will stay that's my that's my belief you know he's got the opportunity like you could be pretty damn popular in arizona if you're austin matthews but i don't think you'd ever be a god and i think you'd be a god in toronto oh like look at the guys who didn't win and had terrible careers are gods here can make half a million dollars a year in three days like can you imagine if they if the leafs win the cup guys who haven't played for this team for a quarter century are gonna get a raise
Starting point is 01:24:34 people are gonna what yeah i would i would like to see curtis joseph Wait, you know he didn't win with the Leafs, right? Yes, but I want him anyway. He was a Leaf. He's still in commercials. Yeah. There's a window. He's doing a Windows commercial right now, literally for Windows.
Starting point is 01:24:51 He's walking to the door. All he does with a cup of coffee is walk to his window and look outside and go, it's nice to have land, except he doesn't say that. It's literally, that's it. And they edited the commercial because the first time I saw it, there was no description at the bottom. You just had to know that was Curtis Joseph. And everybody knew.
Starting point is 01:25:10 otherwise it could just be an actor this is just a good looking guy in his 40s brown hair and a beard what is now it's like by the way kujo is hot can we just can i just be honest about that that's a handsome guy he's dilf status oh yes he's absolutely i would go he's a goaltender i'd like to film doing a commercial steve i think gilf is something else and is it what could it be probably i don't know what could it possibly be i think it might be something else you might not want to use that one i can't i don't know i think it would move on i think it's goaltender i'd like to frame as in the right frame for the commercial no that first letter is definitely goaltender awesome okay all right moving on adam i have a question i'll have to
Starting point is 01:25:58 google that later off of this nope off of this topic what do you think are the total amount of views on steve's lfr for the stanley cup winning game for the toronto make beliefs it's gonna hit it's so you're steve just can i can i ask this question jesse you can ask steve as many questions just get get enough info and then you're gonna put your guests down now and then when the day it happens we're gonna play back this clip and see how close you are steve what's your nine two game count the nashville one uh let me look i have my computer because that that if you don't know if you're just getting on in the last three years with steve and i don't blame you because the leafs weren't really much to watch before that um that game was
Starting point is 01:26:46 there was a there are a couple moments that i've seen you know being side by side with steve since before he had 30 000 like pre 30 000 subscribers steve um there were accelerant moments in steve's career it's like yeah it was like it was like kind of slow growth slow growth absolute fire boom next level and then like when an artist releases a couple of songs and then has a number one hit yes so there's here's the the 200 000 club i i have very few videos that are over 200 000 so wow okay so the video outside of the 200 000 club is the leafs getting freddie anderson that's 157 000 views then it's a jump so it's the leafs losing to columbus in game five that's 212 the Leafs getting the first pick leading to Austin Matthews that's 213 the Leafs getting
Starting point is 01:27:37 John Tavares that's 216 then it's another jump to 9-2 against Nashville this is number four 279,000 views the Leafs lose to Boston in 2019 324,000 views the Leafs trade Phil Kessel 330,000 views and nothing comes even close the david ayers game 754 000 whoa use and even even um so the phil kessel video has 5 000 likes the loss to boston has 9 500 likes um the loss to columbus has 10 000 likes the david ayers video is 24 800 jeez it's on another level now let me ask you this for the podcast because this is important too to my to my quest to make a prediction here for the podcast which episodes or clips whichever have done the best i know our tavaris episode is over a hundred thousand i'm not sure if it's still number one we're tripled we are six digits on
Starting point is 01:28:44 that okay yeah that's our number one of all time okay let me look yeah uh sorted by most popular And Adam, your guess is going to be for seven days after the release of the video. What do you think the view count is on the Stanley Cup winning video of the LFR? After seven days. After seven days. Yeah, we're going to give it some time, and then we're going to come back to this clip. While you're coming up with that, so David Ayers funds my channel. John Tavares funds ours.
Starting point is 01:29:17 so Tavares 114,000 for that episode then the David Ayers episode we did 71,000 on YouTube but then our third most popular clip ever the Montreal Canadiens are going to sign John Tavares with 61,000 wow troll clip well and number four is what's a fair hockey trade for Alexander Ofechkin what a bizarre I used to write the most ridiculous titles and CJ episodes do very well and also tim and sid so thank you to those guys so let me ask so so let me say this seven days seven days after i upload my stanley cup video 1.5 million i think you might be right 1.5 million and here's why um sports net's gonna run it a bunch of times um so it'll be exposed to a lot of people i'll sell it'll be run it'll it'll be run on on in the states for sure and cbc is
Starting point is 01:30:13 gonna pick it up which means it'll reach most canadians um i just i just based on what i saw with the airs game if you see if you see the airs clip that's and you were to reverse it and it's not depressing right you're talking about the biggest fan base in the country um that that is that's gonna go through the roof you're gonna be at um you know you're gonna be at a pretty high level at that point and it's so funny to talk about that as like it's a normal thing or like oh yeah that would happen uh because it's it's like 1.5 million people like even think about like some of our videos they'll do what is it some of them lately have been like doing 36 37 like you could fill the air canada center or sorry the scotia bank arena twice with that
Starting point is 01:30:56 yeah you know there are episodes that we have and we we have such incredible like if you're listening to the show thank you uh i have discussed our numbers with members of major sports organizations in this city. And they say things like, well, your podcast would outrate TFC. Oh yeah. Like, you know what I mean? And you think of like people pay hundreds of thousands of dollars for those rights. So it's, it's, it's our, it's, you know what it is, Steve, it's this incredible relationship you've built with a lot of people who really love you. And I understand why I love you too. And it's really kind of cool. And then I think there's a really special community going on here if we could just have the leafs make it past the first round and i
Starting point is 01:31:38 just think the momentum would be huge i think 1.5 million by the way if that was like a pewdiepie or david dobrik video it'd be like oh that was a failure oh he gets that for like a vlog yeah i went to jamba juice today um i ate a subway sandwich 30 million hits and you're like why i don't my david airs video would be the seventh most populated city in canada taking out winnipeg and if uh my cup video got 1.5 it would be number four taking out calgary just win one my god i have a mortgage win the cop i have a mortgage and a furnace and my basement flooded once i have an army of figures i want to buy i have a dog that loves treats just win one
Starting point is 01:32:27 what was the beginning of all this i i think i don't know i think steve or jesse was just asking me for my prediction that's my prediction oh all right that's my write it down we'll come back to this uh maybe 30 years from now when they win it who knows but a lot of those views though for the airs videos those are like replaced those are people and it's hate watches too it's like hot leaf suck it's consistently like if i go and check my channel at any given moment for real-time views like any almost any given hour it's the top five because people just go back and watch it it's been over a year and people still watch it yeah i don't know yeah it's just it's you know what's funny the airs thing is that um there's oftentimes and if you're a regular
Starting point is 01:33:20 watcher steve you'll know what i'm talking about when people see steve in any sort of clip show like if you you brought him up on tim and sid or something like that uh it's always when he's at 11 out of 10 steve and i remember several of my friends saying like when before they met him like is it is he okay like you're right and when you you know if you listen to this podcast you know that steve can be super chill he actually can be super down uh he can be you know you can be all over there's an there's emotional i'm a human yeah emotional depth imagine that and not afraid to be out there about it and i just think it's so funny because it's that video would probably be you at an 11 out of 10 again and that would be the one that would be the one you were
Starting point is 01:34:05 probably most known for that was the first video for a lot of my neighbors and i had some explaining to do. Oh yeah. My one neighbor is like, my wife saw that and I was like, Oh, okay. I'll talk to her. Whenever, whenever, uh, parents say, Oh, I listened to your podcast to me. I'm like, I'm sorry. Oh, I know. I know. And now they're just kind of get it. Yeah. A hundred percent. Anyway, that's my guess. Jesse, any more questions? Uh, no, I think we're good for today. Good for today. Okay. So we will be back Monday and be on the lookout more content incoming. Just throwing that out there hint hint nudge nudge stpn.ca check out stuff if you need stuff and things especially if you need a really good pair of track pants because they are great um check them out
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