The Steve Dangle Podcast - Pre-Season Panic | September 25, 2023

Episode Date: September 25, 2023

Get tickets to see the SDP live here: https://www.tickettailor.com/events/thecourseandtheclubhouse/973853 On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Taylor Swift eats ranch with chicken fingers (00...:00), the Leafs played their first pre-season game! (10:00), Blue Jays post-season baseball is coming soon (16:00), Shane Pinto still doesn't have a contract (40:00), the Canucks lose 10-0 (54:30), the Vegas Golden Knights are launching a streaming service (1:02:30), the things you're most anxious about for this upcoming NHL season (1:13:00), Evgeny Kuznetsov speaks out against the Capitals (1:26:00), and an MLS player goes undercover in another league (1:33:00). Visit this episode's sponsors: - If a comprehensive solution is what you need from your supplement routine, then try AG1 and get a FREE 1-year supply of Vitamin D AND 5 free AG1 Travel Packs with your first purchase. Go to drinkAG1.com/sdp. That’s drinkAG1.com/sdp. Check it out. - This episode is sponsored by/brought to you by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/sdp and get on your way to being your best self. - ODRHockeyHeroes.ca - https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/odrhockeyheroes/odr-hockey-heroes?ref=2gepkt&token=8366647e Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:50 starts this week and we'll have more information on that a little bit later in the show which we're very excited for um now listen when it's a sunday and taylor swift is at a chief's game watching travis kelsey catch cds in front of 65 000 people and she's with his mom yelling let's fucking go she wrote she said that she was like let's fucking go she said that with her whole diaphragm what are you doing that's right you're watching pre-season hockey baby actually you know there's one thing i do want to talk about first before we get into the preseason hockey guys how do you take your chicken fingers what sauce do you put on them i mean it completely depends on the establishment i'm at okay well go through your establishments
Starting point is 00:02:40 well like if i'm getting like just like the store-bought frozen ones like we're talking pub style president's choice yeah we're talking probably like barbecue sauce okay i like i like a little sriracha but if i'm at jack aster's getting my adult order of chicken fingers and fries i'm a swifty yeah hot damn you gotta put that in some ranch and live your best life jesse uh do you have the do you have the picture of taylor yeah it's not up there maddie oh oh it's not up there hang on so so the idea here is that we need to have a look at how taylor swift takes her chicken fingers she has exactly one chicken finger on her plate right which is wrong now there's there's a very important observation here so she's got one
Starting point is 00:03:34 chicken finger it looks delicious by the way i would go to kansas city just to have them um and then there is a dabbling of ketchup clearly used yep and a dabbling of ranch sauce now what i know it's ranch we don't it looks like man don't it could be mayo it could be so here's what i was thinking jesse could it be a garlic aioli it could be i thought she was trying to make fancy sauce which would be mayo and ketchup but as you can see the ketchup and mayo have not touched we need more investigation right and sometimes you would like dip one of the other and whatever and then they cross they cross but you can't you can't have that swifties are gonna give us the best coverage we've ever received in football she's way too type a i think to go
Starting point is 00:04:24 mixing sauces you make a choice and you keep the plate looking good you know what i'm saying she Taylor Swift has an aesthetic and it's part of her personality. It's part of why people love her. And I think that the idea that she would dip both ketchup and ranch on one. I think that would be too much. What if she's absolute chaos and it's ranch on one side and ketchup on the other? That would be great. Actually, it tastes delicious.
Starting point is 00:04:47 Now, Swifties were tweeting about football yesterday. And this one is my favorite because they love they live for Taylor Swift. And here's a tweet from at Holly Ground Sound football explainer for those confused. You have four tries downs to go 10 yards. If you keep the ball, the cycle repeats. And if you don't, the other team gets it. You could score touchdowns for six points or kick a field goal for three points. That's basically all you need to know.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And the first response is, OK, but what's it down? Is it like dropping the ball? That's a good question. I think that's a good question. I think it's a good question. If you've never watched football... By the way, everyone's clowning on these people. Like, I saw that tweet.
Starting point is 00:05:31 Yeah. That's a child. You know that, right? Yeah, 100%. That's not a 31-year-old who's like, hey, just in case you don't know, that is a 14-year-old person. What if, guys, it's somebody who doesn't give a shit about football, too? It doesn't matter what age they are.
Starting point is 00:05:46 Maybe they just don't fucking know, man. Yeah, look at this person trying to help people understand something. Fuck them. Yeah, I don't... Stop it. i had to explain all that stuff to natalie when we went to the steelers it was mostly like okay the 49ers are doing this and this is how they're going to dominate the steelers and there we go but like the she didn't understand the four downs thing she loves sports but just never cared
Starting point is 00:06:06 football is not an easy game to pick up no no basketball makes sense to anybody who's ever looked at anything it's like oh you put the thing in there and you get two points football there's so so much complication and nuance to the game like it's not easy what i struggle with with basketball is picking up a foul in real time i have no idea no what a foul is i like i have like on the replay i'm an expert but in real time i have no freaking clue pretty sure sometimes the rest don't even no no either they're guessing i think we were i think there was a roughing the passer call or or something like that and it was like really difficult to explain that to natalie of what the difference between an okay hit on the quarterback is and what it isn't because it is
Starting point is 00:06:49 actually when you in your mind for whatever reason it makes sense but breaking it down is actually kind of difficult if you think you know a sport go to a game with someone who's watching it for the first time you'll discover you don't know nearly as much as you thought i've told the story before i went to a pre-season leafs habs game with a family friend from scotland explain icing in one sentence you can't it's difficult although i did have them understanding offside by the second period that's good because offside is easy yeah i would say it's easier than most sports yeah yeah there's a there's a clear there's a clear line and you understand like the puck needs to go in first and everybody's got to be behind that there you go you know but there's
Starting point is 00:07:30 there's other things that are a little more complicated i have a i have a question by the way remember how we all clowned on sydney crosby last week and greg wischinski's article about bringing back the red line yes i was thinking the other day now i was high when i was thinking it but wouldn't it be way better good start keep the blue lines there for color or whatever wouldn't it be way better to just bring the red line back and get rid of the blue lines bring the red line no offsides only only uh and and make it a little more like just just as a thought there is offsides but as soon as you cross the red line safely the entire the rink is yours how about no lines well i mean no lines would be great too no they kind of do get in the way
Starting point is 00:08:11 there's a lot of whistles and shit but i the that's how you play that's how you play ball hockey on like half half size rinks yeah when when i played like with my friends and stuff it's it's the red line is your offside line so once you enter the zone like that's your offside line you know and yeah you have that whole area but i don't think it works well i was thinking the rink is too big it would stop the dumping and chasing because imagine you fire the puck from behind the red line and then have to skate 20 paces after it right dumping and chasing is not easy at that point you kind of have to um uh you it just it also gives these human beings who are getting bigger and bigger every year a little bit more space to breathe like you imagine a
Starting point is 00:08:49 really spread out power play uh yeah like watch a european game right so here's what you need to do that the swifties figured out what is it that was a long explanation you need to shorten it you have 280 characters and if i don't understand by the end of those 280 characters i'm not watching that's fair i'm not interested mr kelsey i think it's too much room you think so is it too much room yeah if they're if they're playing the whole zone is from the red line and i think it'd be a little too much because european hockey can be a little like that right with the bigger ranks it can't be a little too much giant on the sides where you're like they look like little ants out there when you watch european hockey when you watch the olympics you're like they're so tiny
Starting point is 00:09:31 on this giant rink go watch bandy on ice it does oh i've seen that it doesn't look real no it's a football field made of ice it does not look real at all it's uh it's horrendous no you must be like those are the best athletes in the world and we just don't talk about them no like to skate around on that and not die jesse's trying to find oh look at that so they they basically they take a soccer field and they put ice on it and they're playing hockey 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 7, 8 guys
Starting point is 00:10:04 in red jerseys that was Matt Sundin's favorite game growing up loves Bandy I would love to play it did you say why is the net so big, Matty? it's like a half soccer net I love it and the stands are packed with people jacked to watch Bandy
Starting point is 00:10:20 let's go there's so many sports there are there's so many sports and so many of them look awesome and for some reason we just ignore them have you guys have you guys been like in on the pickleball craze that's happening with everybody everybody over 40 i've heard it's fun i don't know it looks like a horrendous tv sport ever seen like the oh i've never seen the sport no i thought it was a recreational dude it was on when we were watching uh when we were with john boy yeah yeah they were watching pickle they were
Starting point is 00:10:50 trying to broadcast on on the ocho whatever espn's like hey we need some extra content they tried like a weekend of pickleball and it was horrendous television i bet it would but like it seems like everybody in north america who's over i shouldn't say 40 maybe like over 50 is into pickleball right now keep hearing good things about pickleball guys you know listen that's why they started 15 years away from 50 steve we we better start picking up pickleball you know you start joining the seniors tournaments all right whoever needs knee replacement first that's right Listen, the Leafs did play yesterday against the Ottawa Senators. And if I had one, if you there's one thing you can't dissuade me of after watching that game.
Starting point is 00:11:30 One point, gentlemen, that I will remain unmoved on. Tim Stutzler should have taken less. No, no. It's it's that Keith Petruzzelli will not be the Leafs starter this year. I know I'm convinced of it. I was devastated. Yeah, I have to be honest with you. Watching the game and I watched it this morning.
Starting point is 00:11:47 it's like you don't really learn that much except for William Nylander at center was interesting yeah it was interesting and he did fine I mean that's all you're really looking for right and like you're looking for your NHL regulars should look like NHL regulars uh and you're looking for like a few minor leaguers to surprise I'm gonna ask you guys a very important question get us what did you learn from last year's preseason that's so funny nothing last year it means trying to remember what happened all of these games are useless unless you're a head coach or an assistant coach on these teams i don't remember a single thing i don't like from last year's preseason nothing nothing nothing interesting has ever happened in the preseason
Starting point is 00:12:36 except for David Clarkson and Phil Kessel and that was a million years ago Jonathan Bernier fought Ryan Miller yeah but these aren't like things you take away from the game that are like you know what we have a tough goalie we learn yeah yeah i mean you learn guys can hang like i remember uh like you can earn a spot it's rare but you can earn a spot like i remember um jay rosehill he fought every damn preseason game maybe twice and it's like he's gonna punch his way into the lineup and then he did and then he did and i'm pretty sure they had both him and or at the same time might have been a little too much but it you know it is possible but like the rookie tournament is bad hockey the first preseason game is not a whole hell of a lot
Starting point is 00:13:27 better it's a bit better but it's still fun to watch that there's a game on well it's also yeah it's it's nice that there's a game on i like that it was on during the day and my son can go oh holy shit there's hockey on i'm usually in uh asleep by seven um but it's just i don't know uh the least roster tonight will be abruzzese bertuzzi blandese cowan gregor holmberg conf marner matthews o'brien reeves robertson and tiff burke to verburg well he'll play again for sure uh you know what's funny i've never really had to say the name out loud i read it i read it but i've never actually had to pronounce it i think it's actually twerberg uh noah chadwick mark giordano john klingberg miko kokanen uh jake mccague topi miyamala uh mateo petro reno uh
Starting point is 00:14:19 is that how you say it how do you say it let me petro reno petro nero petro nero whatever and then marshall marshall riff i don't know guys listen i mean you're gonna have you got your you got some names that could make it nick robertson is i think the one you're watching for to be like oh could he make it uh easton cowan i'm interested in what's it look like amongst men even though we know he's going back to london and it'll be cool to watch him one because it's a first impression and two he has zero percent chance of playing like even the minors this year he's he's a chl guy for sure yeah and well and like the london knights are probably gonna make it too far for him to even have a cup of coffee with the
Starting point is 00:15:03 marley's at the end of the year so he's gonna have his one or two games he's gonna play his ass off and he's gonna get sent back so you know if anyone's gonna try their absolute hardest it's gonna be him it should be fun to watch uh that is tonight at seven o'clock versus ottawa um i will say it is weird that teams arrange it so that like the sends won yesterday because they should have yeah and the leafs ought to win this game because i mean look at the lineup they have the leafs had one nhl line yesterday and they're gonna have well more than that and kip suits look good though it's funny how it's weird how a good player looks good effortlessly good stutzla looks in a preseason game and nylander looks in a preseason game like they were both completely effortless
Starting point is 00:15:53 and just, fuck, what a bullet from Stutzla. Both of those shots were unfair. Oh, yeah, 100%. It's exactly what I said about Bedard from the rookie tournament game. I'm sorry, you don't have a chance. Jesse, did you make time in your absolutely crazy football schedule?
Starting point is 00:16:14 And by the way, one of Jesse's fantasy players got 45 points in a day. I had my entire team at 55. Adam's the Anaheim Ducks of our league. oh it's terrible i sat tank delhi at 23 points he's behind me yeah yeah it's even steve has a bad we're two weeks in and adam's only one of two teams that are oh man you know who's killing me it's it's the it's garrett wilson and breeze hall i i honestly expected more i'm gonna have to i think i'm gonna have to drop breeze hall like i'm gonna have to get rid of him oh don't do that
Starting point is 00:16:44 don't do that because you know do it i'm probably high dude he stinks man he's terrible right now He's injured, but still, I'm really in trouble. Julian is kicking my ass. Yeah? This week. I didn't even know it was him until today. Michael Ann Lauer, the new owner, five days ago of the Ottawa Senators.
Starting point is 00:17:04 You were going to ask me something. Oh, I was going to ask you something. Did you make time in your schedule for the Leafs preseason game? No. Okay. Dear God, no. There's a full slate of NFL football plus the Blue Jays were playing at 1 o'clock. And they won. Yeah, that was a good game. game in a row yeah no they lost on saturday oh they lost saturday but still they never beat
Starting point is 00:17:21 tampa it's amazing you would know they lost saturday if you listen to the jesse blake sports report yeah they haven't won a series in tampa since 2021 oh my god what yeah almost full two seasons they won on the road in tampa series yeah they struggle at tropicana and they have historically and yeah because it's a depressing shit hole i don't know what it is i don't know what it is mentally about every single blue jays team that can't win at tropicana but yeah it's always been that way yeah uh even when the rays were bad question though um you had a uh an episode come out two weeks ago i think when i think the jays season was at its worst when they got booed off or whatever and you're like both schneider and ross atkins have to go it's jover
Starting point is 00:18:01 yeah do you it's do you still believe that it's funny you say it was two weeks ago it was eight days ago eight days ago eight it feels like in a lifetime ago based on how they've played since but yeah eight days ago they got swept by the texas rangers in a four-game series where they were fighting for their playoffs lies and it was embarrassing and i was killed in all the games and depending on how the season goes ends like obviously if they win the world series they don't think john schneider should be fired or anything like that but like based on how he's managed right now yeah i think he should go there's he's he's been awful in in game management like you affect the game so little as a baseball manager because it's not you're not driving up
Starting point is 00:18:37 plays you're not doing anything like that and your role is you set the lineup you set the pitching rotation you you call who comes in and out of the of the the pen like when you relieve her and that's kind of it and and his decision making in terms of who needs to be in the lineup and when the pinch hit and all those little things he's been terrible at it consistently david schneider not starting every game for a while especially when he was hot yeah at the beginning when now he's i think he's oh for his last 30 hats but yeah he wouldn't put him in the lineup for the first week when he was a reincarnation of babe ruth in his prime and it was ridiculous and saturday there was a giant blunder where he left in and injured jordan romano to
Starting point is 00:19:16 finish out the game and obviously an injured pitcher closer injured pitcher isn't gonna be good and he allowed the uh winning run to come home yeah like yeah you cough up that game but like what if you win he's still hurt yeah you're closer yeah you can't have your closer be hurt and have any aspirations of trying to win anything and they had a lefty in the pen his name's tim maza and he's great against left-handed hitters and up at the plate was a lefty and john schneider decided hey i'm gonna leave in my closer who has a broken fingernail and he can't grip the ball well instead of bringing in the lefty who is going to get out this lefty and it was terrible and yeah the dude probably shouldn't be managing the jays next year i i know there's a a big contingent
Starting point is 00:19:59 of people who think analytics have ruined baseball and and maybe there are some things that analytics have made difficult for baseball but it seems like it just helps you see what the obvious decision is and a lot of managers seem to go out of their way to be like no i am smarter than the information well yeah i think a lot of people would say the problem with the analytics and the jays thing is that's what's driving a lot of their decisions and their and the decisions have been the wrong ones what the jays are don't play hurt players yeah i don't know if the numbers are gonna i don't know how that's going to be represented yeah but they did all common sense yeah they still did yeah just don't do it yeah i think it's more like i think the you can't blame the numbers for that
Starting point is 00:20:43 that's on you dummy i i think you're doing there is there is uh analytics are you know you should be listening to them but i think when you when you have a player who's hot it doesn't make sense analytically kind of have to that's where the human decision comes in where it's like it's a gut call oh yeah yeah now playing a guy hurt before the playoffs stupid especially a closer but all all that is to say i think that there have been i think jesse's on to something but i think that a lot of people are blaming the analytics department of the blue jays here's the other problem is there's tons of data out there how do you synthesize that and it's all in your perspective on how to look at the numbers and that can be the problem too so a lot of people
Starting point is 00:21:21 will be like oh oh they're a fancy stats team and they suck this year uh and they didn't think that they would so analytics are bad no it could just be that the people didn't read the data properly and didn't use it to their to their best effect i just i'm trying to think of like instances in sports where a guy just got hot and if like if in 2006 someone were to go up to the coach of the sharks and be like what are you playing chichu with thornton for get him off he got take him off that year oh you got 56 yeah 56 goals for john and then i think it was in russia and within three years it's crazy i mean he hurt his knees but like yeah he was he was unreal he and he was like i don't know like eight goals behind jogger heading into like the final 45 days of that season
Starting point is 00:22:11 and he smoked them because he couldn't be stopped but what if ah we're not supposed to have chichu up there yeah get him down yeah anyway he's not gonna shoot that percentage forever can i ask you guys a question about the blue jays as more casual baseball fans yeah where has they where has the blue jay sat in your sports fandom this summer in terms of like hey i'm watching a game or they're just on your radar and when you're looking at sports news and that sort of stuff and you're following the team. I've actually watched quite a bit of Jays this summer. It's just
Starting point is 00:22:45 too many games, man. It's just there is no point watching every baseball game. I want to talk to someone who watches. Do you watch every Jays? No, I'm not at a 160
Starting point is 00:23:01 tour. That's crazy. There are a lot of people who are. But there are people. There are people who imagine having seasons tickets. To make that makes sense you need to be it i think at least half the games maybe you're selling half of them but 81 there are people with that's what they do that's their family activity a lot of people people have like a big they go on a vacation or they have a cottage or they rent a cottage or whatever they do a lot of people in bay you when you go down there and i i remember this because i did go to 40 games one year and uh because my my girlfriend at the time had free tickets i didn't
Starting point is 00:23:33 have the money to go to 40 freaking games but you realize that it's the same families are there every single night adam do you like me i like you a lot would you go get coffee with me of course what if i was like adam i like you we should go get coffee what would you say i'd say let's do it oh what if i finish my sentence adam we should get coffee 81 times this summer i'd be like i got to see my family at some point i would assume our kids would come with us right no they're not out i mean there's a bit of a false equivalency yeah i don't i don't know if this is exactly it's i don't know you know perfect but we're not used to that because we live in toronto and everything is really expensive and you know leafs tickets are crazy but it is like that for
Starting point is 00:24:18 hockey in other cities where it's like you got like my dad my grandfather had flame seasons tickets from game one until he physically could not go anymore and that was over 30 years wow and he um he had uh he had four seats uh for the first 20 years and every single night he and my grandmother were there with another couple or one of the kids or whatever and then um he he dialed it back to two games or two because um people um you know people weren't coming his daughters had moved away like whatever whatever else it was and i think in pittsburgh he used to go to the the 70s penguins can you imagine um powder blue all the time and i think that's the that's the thing is that like we don't get that with with the leafs because that's not available
Starting point is 00:25:05 it's a premium seat but in a lot of places uh and and in the past a lot of people would just go in and make it their thing and and you go 40 times because you paid for the tickets i uh i have a guy who i buy raptors tickets off of and i don't think i've ever sat next to the same people twice well wow that guy sounds like he's just making a business yeah well he is but i think everyone around him is as well yeah they're good seats like decent they're not courtside or anything one day i just want to be stupid and like forget that budgets exist and you know i'm just one day i'm gonna die i'm gonna sit courtside oh of course that'd be awesome i have sat courtside have you regular court side season one time my mom got tickets through work and it was a regular
Starting point is 00:25:49 season game and it was Toronto versus Chicago. It was right after the Jordan stuff. It was like Kirk Heinrich was their big point guard at the time. You paid premium to watch Tony Kukoc? Yeah, he was
Starting point is 00:26:05 there too. The guy sitting next to us though, it was after Kukoc, but anyway, Matt Stajan. No way! Matt Stajan was like a rookie and his girlfriend who went to like Western University or something was there and I would have been 10 yeah it was yeah or 12 or whatever it was it was and he was very very nice and you didn't
Starting point is 00:26:24 appreciate it i didn't well i i appreciated matt staging i i appreciated that staging more than i did the raptors at that point dude i remember going to a leaf game uh tickets that we got from a neighbor and we we got those seats where uh the wait staff comes to you and takes your order oh yeah and i was just like we're rich like pretty cool we're rich we are rich people and just the reason i asked the question is like next week we're gonna be sitting here at this time the jays are gonna be in the playoffs i'll be watching playoff games and and uh i'm about probably i don't know after the the hockey season ends i probably catch like 100 baseball games a year but like it feels like now yeah it's a it's a lot maybe maybe like 90 i don't know it feels
Starting point is 00:27:06 like now there was just a slow build where nobody kind of cared about the jays throughout the summer but now they're kind of building some momentum in the market and we're going to lead up to the playoffs and people are starting because they're hitting people here love the jays yes when the jays are on it they're as popular as any toronto sports team going you know so i feel like there's kind of some momentum now and when they hit the playoffs next week there's going to be something but people also dislike the entire team for the entire summer so we were during 15 and 16 these are two big years for toronto because after the world series wins in 92 and 93 the jays didn't make the playoffs until 2015 so it was a long drought and madness madness in retrospect but
Starting point is 00:27:42 nobody baseball only allowed like eight teams in which is also stupid yeah um so they're in the best division yeah it's like yeah it was a joke they should have made it a billion times um but they um what i remember about that was you know being so we were all three of us so integrated at rogers at that point you were at sports net jesse and i were at kiss and i remember um like they'd have like roberto alomar and joe carter and all these alumni come through on breakfast television and and you know talking about the jays and what do they need to do tonight and whatever And I can remember behind the scenes, the producers were like, the Jays winning is so big that the Rodgers stock is up because of it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Like the entire company, which is worth $30 billion, was because of the Blue Jays. Do you remember the ratings? The ratings were low. Because we get our ratings report. There's like 8 million people watching. It was just... Yeah, even millions. Yeah, the backflip game especially was great.
Starting point is 00:28:38 for even the fan because we got our ratings every quarter for when we were at kiss and yeah it wasn't a competition anymore because the fan like i don't remember what number they hit we got fucked in the afternoon yeah because because we're the afternoon show and the afternoon like your morning drive is your in pop radio your morning drive is your most important show traditionally in in in sports radio your afternoon show is your most important show because it leads into the game and we were the afternoon show so we're the second show on the totem pole and the fan was just fucking they they were they were wiping the floor with us and i'm talking our key demographics were like women 25 to 54 nobody was listening no i hope you spent i
Starting point is 00:29:18 hope the station spent a lot of money on consultants to figure out why you were losing oh they did yeah they did yeah they did typically the fan will have like a one or a two rating and that that like month when the jays were in the playoffs they had like a 30 yeah it was we would be like we'd be like 12 13 normally we're down to like a three it was great they took all of everything like the jays were the only thing going for like that entire month it was awesome it was it was it was cool and now so jesse to answer your question about the uh how where do they rate in my in my sort of yeah like next week you're gonna have a jersey on yeah 100 and i i've got my jersey and i've got uh like for me in the summertime formula one is number one but it's a lot less of a
Starting point is 00:29:56 commitment i watch every single race i watch every qualifying i'm starting to watch every practice i just love it f1's got that nfl thing where you just turn it tune in two days a week that's right it's awesome so it's not a huge commitment but i i have watched it a lot and a lot more now because i'm surrounded by passionate jays fans um my mother-in-law is a jays fan like ardently will leave like they have a they have a cottage and in the summertime it'll be like you know four in the afternoon and it's a saturday and it's sunny and gorgeous and she's like i'm gonna go upstairs and watch jay's game like it because it's it's that much to her but what's hilarious about watching with her is it's like watching with steve uh when the leaf like so when the jays go through an
Starting point is 00:30:37 inning just one inning and they and they don't hit a home run or they don't get to she's she like gets up and walks around she gets upset like every inning she lives and dies by every inning playoff baseball is absolute torture oh it's i say that as someone who covers the leafs for a living yeah like playoff baseball is hard well remember last year it was fucking oh giving oh eight to one oh god drunk at the cottage at thanksgiving going this is gonna be great they were up i want to say uh they had the mariners had come back like one or two runs yeah and i left to go meet my friends and like by the time i sat down in my seat it was tied i had i had tickets to game three and when they're up to when they're up uh eight one i started
Starting point is 00:31:28 making plans with my sister i was like okay we need to take the train at this time meet up and everything and then we're just slowly watching them demolish it was terrible i was uh i was listening to game one on the radio because we had just moved into our new house i was hanging up all the stuff on the wall in the blue room and it's like all right let's go blue jays and manoa steps up to the mound and it is high it is far it is gone the blue jays are down and i'm like all right great i remember i remember too a couple years ago i think it was the covid year where they didn't they surprised and then they got in yeah what pissed me off about that uh and this is where the analytics for the blue jays drives me crazy they saved their cy young award-winning pitcher
Starting point is 00:32:08 hanjin ryu for game three and they didn't fucking make it to game three yeah make it to game three you morons you idiots right that's like being like you know what austin we're gonna play you like 10 minutes in game one and two we really need you to come on strong in three four yeah you know like just assuming that there's gonna be it you gotta catch them off guard yeah they haven't won a playoff game since 2016 because they were swept last year and they're swept the year before you know it's been it's been a long time since they've won a playoff you're right when was the game the uh when was incarnation bad flip against baltimore that was 2016 jesse hammett yeah i was there for that one lucky natalie was at the bad flip game hey that's awesome she was
Starting point is 00:32:49 actually there for it she's like i she's when she talks about she's like we were legitimately afraid that there was going to be she's like we we didn't know that we'd be able to get out safely oh it's like so when he did hit the home run everybody was like oh thank god no one's gonna die tonight how good was zach britain that night what do you mean the the pitcher for the orioles not not great yeah they didn't fucking use them oh yeah yeah yeah no i forgot about that again all right rank it over time no you guys don't have to apologize for anything all right uh rank it over time playoff game winning goal obviously it's the goal in overtime it's game winning walk off home run oh damn bottom of the ninth playoff game or extra in it
Starting point is 00:33:34 buzzer beater nba game zero seconds on the shot clock so like on the other shot kawaii shot yeah you you win let's say let's say in all of these you win the series as well and then in football you get a zero seconds field goal nothing left on the clock and he walks off the kicker walks off with a with a field goal field goal sucks i like sucks it's got to be touchdown no no because it'll rarely happen that well i guess it'll happen like i've seen a touchdown over time what percent of field goals miss it depends on where you're kicking how far well this is like okay so how long is the field goal let's say it's a 55 yarder okay yeah it's just an interesting justin tucker from 60 you know i think what matters is like how you rank them
Starting point is 00:34:27 ah because the context beforehand matters part of part of what made batista's bat flip uh home run so crazy was the hour beforehand and it wasn't it wasn't a walk-off and it wasn't a walk-off you're right you're right the edwin one was edwin was a walk-off yeah uh and i i saw once like in a random regular season game i saw raul mondesi walk it off with a grand slam oh shit it was four four bottle of the ninth bang gone that was cool uh but i have to say um i've seen i've been lucky enough to see all of those things live uh and the biggest pop i've ever experienced was gary roberts against the ottawa senators in triple overtime so i'm gonna go with that just because my personal experience dictates that also fuck ottawa i'm kidding uh but but yeah yeah winning
Starting point is 00:35:15 the playoffs you bums um two three and four two three and four i've never been there for okay we'll go i i've seen a buzzer beater rudy gay when he was with the rap oh yeah it was a rudy gay buzzer beater so i'm gonna say uh i am gonna say baseball and then basketball and football's fun and exciting but you almost most of the time could feel it happening you almost feel like it's almost like a do you know what i'm saying like certain things like a goal in hockey is a surprise comes out of nowhere football it's like i worked my way down the field and i feel like i'm gonna yeah we're on the 30 we're getting the position yeah yeah does that make sense yeah yeah but you don't get the pop basketball is crazy though when you when you do see it it's crazy hockey overtime
Starting point is 00:35:59 first walk off home run second is it does it have to be a home run it does i mean home runs this is the best one there's the build up to it's the crack of the bat everyone stands up If they're not already standing and you wait to see if it made it out the period of time between the, unless you're Kawhi Leonard, when the ball leaves your hands, the, you like my form? When the ball, when the ball leaves your hands. No, no. Show everybody again.
Starting point is 00:36:34 You know what you're doing? Why are you doing the, you're doing the Lady Gaga from the music video. Yeah. Bad romance. Why? also why are you shooting with your left hand that's the guiding hand no you don't you don't shoot with you shoot like that
Starting point is 00:36:49 yeah but you don't move this hand I'm not holding the ball it's hard I'm not a good pantomime she is a very good artist imitation is flattery hockey
Starting point is 00:37:09 overtime walk off buzzer beater the football kick it's a fucking kick it's still a kick I don't care if it's far it's a kick Jesse what about you
Starting point is 00:37:22 I think the pop in baseball is the biggest like I overtime is so dramatic and it comes out of nowhere but I think the crack of the bat and when you see it when it's a no doubter I think that's the biggest and it's 50,000 people
Starting point is 00:37:39 you saw Batista no i saw edwin oh you saw i thought you were natalie we're natalie oh my bad yeah my bad but like i wait weren't you there for kawaii shot i was there for kawaii shot yeah i was up in so there's a what is it the 600 level i remember your insta story yeah and you think edwin was louder than kawaii yeah more people no the way adam's right about the the build-up a basketball has that too where it's hey if it's tied you know that this thing is happening now right baseball it comes out of nowhere same with hockey that's why i think they're my one two but i think the pop is bigger in baseball and i got second i got ot winner and then basketball because yeah usually
Starting point is 00:38:24 it's you're doing the inbound pass and there's five seconds left and you know the shot's coming and this could be it i like the hey this any moment this next pitch could be the end of it yeah that's so cool to me and so i'm gonna i'll go basketball third and then i think we all agree on the kicker thing yeah they kick this baseball or uh baseball is crazy because nothing is over until quite literally it's over like it i know that sounds like a cliche and it is but the the thing that about baseball is it is nail-biting till the last out there is no dead space 18 inning game oh yeah i'm in like it's not oh yeah no it's crazy I stayed forever.
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Starting point is 00:39:27 It gives you all the vitamins and nutrients that you need for the day to get going. To be lean and mean. that's not i wasn't saying i wasn't suggesting weight loss what i was suggesting is like you're fired up you're ready to go you can be healthy and nice behind you how about that listen healthy and nice it doesn't rhyme you guys need to take your ag1 before these add okay fine healthy and wealthy it is a nutritional supplement uh and ag1 is one of those things that is like it's a daily nutritional supplement that you your body will love uh jesse you feel better when you drink it versus when you don't 100 so if you want to try it out uh if a comprehensive solution is what you
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Starting point is 00:41:46 30 it doesn't matter 30 um steve i want to start with this quote because you had a field day with He said, Shane Pinto, situation is a unique one. I don't know the last time Ottawa was at the salary cap. In talking to the players, we want to get Shane Pinto signed. We put ourselves in a pickle with the salary cap, so I guess it's to be continued. A pickle. You know what's funny, Adam?
Starting point is 00:42:07 I didn't have a field day with that. I had a field day with the fact that they can't afford Matthew Joseph. Well, Matthew Joseph might be the guy they got to get rid of. They can't keep Matthew Joseph. They can't sign Shane Pinto. you know if only tim stutzla had taken less yeah i mean he doesn't need 10 million to play hockey why would he take eight clearly doesn't need that either where did 835 come from is that your junior number or something why not just eight
Starting point is 00:42:34 that's not enough i guess you should have signed for 67 mil oh wait no that'd be more yeah i thought was at 68 you should have signed for uh i don't know 50 you should have signed for what you can't get by on 10 um 10 mil over eight years you can't make that you can't stretch that out selfish um selfish i'm i'm looking at the parts of their their salaries that they're gonna have to get off of the roster matthew joseph or dominic kubelik this did feel it feels a bit self-inflicted because they i guess they had to trade to bring cat to detroit because he wouldn't go anywhere else but like they brought dominic kubelik in is that the piece that they had to take i saw someone like well why don't they just get rid of kubelik it's like well no they just got him well i know
Starting point is 00:43:24 but matthew joseph has three more years he's 26 and he's making 2.95 he was like you can't you shouldn't get rid of that guy he was their key return for nick paul yeah and you're gonna like i would i'd ditch kubelik before him so they didn't sign kubelik he was in the debrinket trade yes yeah just two and a half for one more year i mean but the reason he was in that trade is it's gonna be difficult to move him he's like a power play specialist i'm so confused how a team like ottawa gets into salary cap trouble you know it feels like they have such a young core and everything seems manageable and they're not really they haven't been going for it necessarily in the last couple years they don't really have there's no big albatrosses on their line up but they're
Starting point is 00:44:08 they're in trouble and i guess it's because like the deals like artem zoo making 4.6 and the checker in 4.6 and they'll just add up the bio money hold on though they've got they've got a million five uh detained dead cap on matt murray and then they bought out that's bobby ryan's last year colin white and michael delzato all that adds up to 3.45 million dollars it's not back break but that's all that's shane pinto's money yeah also like okay colin white 875 thousand dollars against the cap this year 625 thousand dollars in cap relief next year then it's back to an 875 cap hit why does any of that make sense who the fuck came up with that stupid who's like this is the way to do it knock it off brandon pridham actually i know he needs we should talk
Starting point is 00:44:59 to him about that um also if shane pinto can't get signed i i look at a guy like josh bailey who played yesterday and i go how is he gonna fit in there and i wonder if it's just he gets an audition here and then is able to move elsewhere i feel like they got him to sign him it feels like with what money well that's isn't that the problem if only and again this is not a problem less not a problem next year but it's a flat cap yeah they really don't have shitty contracts. And Josh Norris isn't listed on the screen right now, but he's
Starting point is 00:45:34 7.9 or 7.5? 7.95. I know people don't love Travis Hamnick. 1.1? But then you go out and you do the Tara Cinco thing, give him $5 million. He's going to
Starting point is 00:45:50 be great. He's going to fit in the lineup. But that $5 million would be nice. Yeah, they spent this summer too you're right they went out and they got uh tarasenko who else did they get they got uh uh well they got jacob chikrin the goalie they signed yunus corposalo yeah corposalo four million dollars i think i don't think corposalo's deal is bad like i don't think any of the deals they have are bad that's the thing nothing where did the money go the reason they're in a bit of a i think it's the dead cap the reason they're well it's definitely the dead
Starting point is 00:46:19 cap the the reason they're in a bit of uh pickle is uh i i read something i can't remember where it was from where they're like yeah they might have to get rid of matthew joseph and they're looking for a first round pick and return you need to dump a contract because you're in cap trouble and you want a first round pick i don't give a shit who you're offering me i think you're the one who's fucked you'd be better to put kubelik on waivers he would for sure pass through because nobody's got the space maybe that's the plan uh and then you bury half of the contract because you can bury up to 1.35 i think uh so i feel like i read they changed how that works i'm not totally sure man it's impossible to follow like it's impossible to come on i know uh anyway i'd
Starting point is 00:47:04 love to know uh so so that's that was the first thing um on a good deal on spending to the cap here's what michael and lauer had to say because this is what sin fans have wanted for a long long time he said spending to the cap quote has to be sustainable he told the players they have to have success if they want fans to come he said i don't pay the i don't pay the players the fans pay the players which is true because he's bought the business now the business has to run itself right basically if you guys stink i ain't spending money yeah which is it's sort of a weird thing to say because um first off you're already committed to spending money man all the contracts are signed the other thing is if you're if you're not good and you stop spending money usually you get worse
Starting point is 00:47:48 no you get connor bedard uh and lauer says on tsn 1200 this is from bruce gariac uh to pierre dorian i hold you accountable you pick the coach it's not for me to decide he wants to be involved but how about this sense fans wants to allow employees to make decisions so they can be held accountable for them that talk about playing the hits he's just coming out there and going i'm gonna just let people do their thing don't worry i'm not like the last guy and then here's the here's a great thing you want to talk about playing the hits daniel alfredson's name came up hey daniel alfredson has always been a senator according to michael handlauer he has except for that one time he wasn't uh he's the greatest set of all time in speaking to him he's expressed a
Starting point is 00:48:29 desire to come back that was music to my ears it's only natural to have him it's what fits it's like a day three or but he's like it's day three or four on the job for me listen like you don't want to stuff your front office with former players uh necessarily makes you the flyers it's and the oilers you know it makes you a lot of a lot of teams around the nhl but there are some players who matter more than others this is why i've been hammering the lightning for the steven stamko stuff they cannot have a fractured relationship with that player it is bad for the team it is bad for morale is bad for the franchise the leafs had it for a very long time with dave keon one of the best things brennan shanahan did since coming on board was repairing that relationship um and the
Starting point is 00:49:16 senators have it with daniel alfredson it it got ugly and his his absence has been felt i think by that team and by that fan base so they got to repair that and get him involved uh on the arena downtown that has been rumored for 10 years now. Ann Lauer told Ottawa Morning, and again, this is a tweet from Bruce Garriock, it's a no-brainer. He said the private-public partnership in Edmonton is a good model. He's not sure
Starting point is 00:49:43 if that'll be the case here in Ottawa. And the estimated cost, this is what he said, is somewhere, and he's like ballparking it here, so don't hold him to it, but he said it has to make economic sense. Should be about $900 million. I don't know what it's going to take. And he said, I know there's a desire. It has to be
Starting point is 00:49:59 win-win-win. And he said it's not just the arena you have to build a community around it you know if you want a blueprint by the way if you care about this stuff uh detroit's a really great example um not not i don't think everybody loves the the political setup because i think it's like tax-free or super reduced taxes for like 50 years or something but essentially they built little caesars and they built a community around it and they had the leverage to do that in detroit because if people remember detroit had just declared bankruptcy and so the illage family uh based out of detroit went to them and said we need to revitalize the downtown everybody's leaving therefore you don't have a
Starting point is 00:50:36 tax base and i remember it was so bad at the time they were shutting off water to certain neighborhoods because they could not afford to keep it going and so the illage family said listen we got to bring people back the only way to do that is to have a reason to come back and so they built the arena they built the community around it they their shops and everything and that has sort of been the start of the revitalization of detroit so the idea is not that ottawa needs a revitalization downtown it's a you know if you ask people in ottawa it's a little sleepy there sometimes uh a lot of people go i we've always had a good time but i think when you live there i love it there um i think hall is the people go if you want some cd fun um yeah no yeah no uh but
Starting point is 00:51:17 uh but yeah i think that ottawa could use a little bit of some some spice downtown more than just the byward market that's got to be like task one on his list right getting a new arena because like canadian tire center like it's it's unusable where it is the team is you know almost secondary yeah like that building that's that's i think that's got to be priority number one is securing a new building because it's been enough time where we all know having that out in the farmland doesn't work yeah what's the number one issue facing the coyotes right now you know goaltending defense No, they need a building. They need a building.
Starting point is 00:51:51 And as the owner, if you're allowing people to do their jobs on the day-to-day hockey operations, your job should be the oversight of a giant project like that. For him personally, I think that's got to be priority number one. That's got to be an intimidating thing to take on. Nah. Don't you think? You just spent $900 million on the team, and you're going to have to spend another $900 million on this? If you just bought...
Starting point is 00:52:12 You got a billion dollars in your bank account. What are you worried about? I hope you do. Well, yeah, but Jesse, you're only going to have $100 million left. what think of that stress i don't know if that's all work think of the stress of only having a hundred i'm sure he's got if you have a billion dollars and you purchase a 900 million dollar building you only have 100 million dollars left how are you gonna feed and clothe your family that's how money works but if you build the building you don't have the money well i mean
Starting point is 00:52:34 obviously he's got more than a billion dollars but i'm just saying it's like it's a great investment for him for the future but that still has to be a pretty intimidating product project i think when you get to that level where you're buying sports teams nothing's really in terms in terms of business side is that intimidating everything's a tax write-off these are play things for these billionaires yeah you're right they have their main businesses you're right like i think about steve ballmer out and he owns the clippers i love the microsoft guy he's just he's just going to build a new arena because he wants to because it's fun for him call up doug ford he'll put you in touch with a guy and all of a sudden you got a building for
Starting point is 00:53:06 like a quarter of the price stop it stop it um oh that's who i hate in this scenario okay we want to tell you about odr hockey heroes this is a independent video game being uh kick-started by one of one of the listeners to these sdp long-time listener it's basically every game that you loved playing growing up the uncomplicated amazing hockey game that you used to love like you know nhl 94 wayne gretzky's 3d hockey that sort of thing yeah and you know what sucks when you sit down to play video games and you have to choose between playing hockey and saving the world No! ODR Hockey Heroes, you get to play
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Starting point is 00:56:23 extract whatever lies ahead don't change your morning let your morning change you discover coffee plus on nespresso.com the uh the canucks and their fans waited 164 days between canucks games between the last regular season game and this one i would argue they're still waiting and i would like you i want you to see the first uh the first tweet from canucks twitter recapping first period yesterday jesse when you are able to bring it up on the screen that is it just says not the start we wanted or nothing the Flames would go on to score six more goals the Canucks would go
Starting point is 00:56:59 on to score zero more goals 10 nothing now I know it's preseason but 10 nothing's a lot but it's preseason there's nothing to be worried about you shouldn't be getting shit rocked like that that's bad for everyone
Starting point is 00:57:15 involved it's glorified practice you guys yeah but for the others you got your jersey on though you have a Canucks jersey on your practice your jerseys in practice listen if they go on to make the playoffs this year I'll I'll eat I'll eat it man but it's just it doesn't I feel for Canucks fans who are like man like ah the context is important like teams are usually very reserved in saying what their goals are for this year like oh you know we're
Starting point is 00:57:49 just hoping to ice a really good team and we want our compete level to be high they say the the very specific things they want their team to do but they very rarely go we're going to make the playoffs especially if they didn't make the playoffs the year before they say we want to contend for the playoff uh i think it was jim rutherford dropped the p word playoffs and the very first time the canucks hit the ice after he said that they lost 10 nothing yeah and i know it's a preseason game it's just tough um ultimately does it matter no but it's i mean you ever heard about uh making a good first impression well um if you're a canucks fan are you pissed ah i mean if i watch the game i'm pissed because it's like man i just wasted my afternoon football
Starting point is 00:58:33 was on there so that game was in calgary somewhere in those stands there were canucks fans oh yeah a thousand percent there were canucks fans that was probably a tough day they paid for that this is a tough day like i remember i went to a leafs pre-season game the other like years ago this is before i had a kid and i remember looking at the and i was like it was a hundred dollars to go to this game oh yeah they're not cheap now i don't think they're a hundred dollars outside of toronto but they're still if they're 50 or 60 that's way too much for the product you're getting you know how i'm your worst nightmare and i keep all my ticket stops yeah the first game i ever went to february 1994 tickets were 32 each
Starting point is 00:59:11 that's still a lot for back in the nosebleeds too like we were not close all right trivia trivia tonight the toronto maple leafs play the ottawa senators at scotia bank arena oh baby pre-season game number two seven o'clock start monday night what is the most expensive ticket at scotia bank arena going for on verified resale on ticket master it is section 118 row one so this is somebody this is not the leaf selling this is the resale this is a resale guy first row sucks first row yeah also do it one time and then never do it again yeah you want to be like 20 20 30 rows back um 250 jesse i'm gonna say 800 bucks 696 oh my god you are sick sick i said 800 because i thought i thought i'm like oh this
Starting point is 01:00:05 would be like really goofy that's not a corporation buying those the 669 6 hey seems like a little bit of a bit because the second most expensive ticket is 222 oh okay so it's definitely just someone being a dick yeah well how bad do you need to go to that game that you're spending 700 on it right so i would say the most expensive ticket in reality is 220 okay section 118 row one 700 dollars basically section 108 row 8 is 222 yeah at least my hundred dollar uh my hundred dollar preseason tickets were right at the glass they were front row oh yeah yeah so very it was in rico oh there you go yeah which is good it's always fun to see a game there it was was it was sorry cola coliseum where the marlies play it was you guys who came with me and we sat
Starting point is 01:00:53 first row behind the gen oshawa generals bench right yeah we moved and they were the only tickets available we're like oh let's get those that's great and like yeah we didn't even last five minutes we're like oh that's why we couldn't see over the like the coach yeah no so i was looking at the arena the whole time yeah we stood in the concourse watch the game from there um i did second row like so you can get that little bit of elevation yeah uh i did think it was relevant that by the way 10 nothing game tell me what the shots were was it was that a blowout i'm gonna go with 35 to 25 for the flames jesse 28 17 game jesse's close on one both the shots were even what what at 26 damn who are the goalies i uh
Starting point is 01:01:40 let me look it up um the box scored is thatcher demko uh markstrom and silvos silvos silas i love they didn't leave him in for all just swinging and missing on the names today he was uh he's a good goalie yeah yeah is he yeah well he was yeah he's he's uh i mean he's a for some reason latvia exclusively produces goalies who have to face 50 shots a game and stop 45 of them yeah and somehow almost beat team canada yeah like it's it's their specialty um i did think it was also relevant to on from the flames perspective that one of the three players is that Daryl Sutter refused to play last year because they were under the age of 25.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Matt Coronado did get a hat trick. Yes. And I know it's on the 10th goal. Do you throw your hats for a preseason? I might keep it. Yeah, go ahead and do it. You got to throw your hat. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:40 I had a tweet ready. If Stutzler got a hat trick, I was going to be like, you wasted your hat on that. Just to be an asshole. Really go with the bit. really go with the bit okay well dude there was like eight minutes left in the game or something i know it's so bad um in case you uh were wondering and i know nobody was but uh the khl
Starting point is 01:03:03 matt bay mitchkoff no longer stuck in uh st petersburg is now with sochi and in four games with sochi like last year uh he's scoring a lot two goals three assists five points in four games it's really weird when a good player plays good isn't it you know who could have predicted i could have fooled me it's crazy a guy paid to coach professional hockey scratched him more than once well yeah he's paid but he wasn't he's not there because he's good at coaching hockey he's there because he was a high-ranking executive and a friend of putin yeah adam's right in that he's not paid to coach hockey he's paid to do russian politics yes ska st petersburg wasn't like this is our this is the smartest person available yeah no it's an arm of the government
Starting point is 01:03:45 you might have a normal coach in one of the small like chalabinsk might have a normal coach but ska is the capital you can't or i guess moscow is the capital but it's saint petersburg you that is a political position more than it's a head coach position you know yeah it was uh when i did khl highlights the final was dynamo moscow versus tractor chalabinsk and it's like you're a narc if you're not cheering for tractor yeah because they're they're the little guy and they lost the putin playing sports highlights are always fun when when you watch those guys get out of the way when yeah whenever he gets the puck they just freeze him falling and eating shit that one time was great i don't know that one so he was skating
Starting point is 01:04:25 around waving at people and there's a red carpet and he tripped over them oh no yeah and the carpet manufacturer um had this really unfortunate thing with a window where they fell out the window yeah that's too bad uh man it's crazy they gotta lock those windows in russia yeah they really do uh Bill Foley continues to be one of the best owners in the NHL. And I love Bill Foley because he's honest, doesn't give a shit, won the cup, and also now has to deal with not working with a local broadcaster. He announced last week, and I didn't get to this last episode, but I wanted to, uh night's time plus is for all locally broadcast vegas games um so that's more than half right
Starting point is 01:05:11 because they're not going to be national like leaf games you can't do that as much with because there's maybe 20 games that aren't national whereas vegas some of those they might play 20 national games uh max so you're going to be able to download the app and watch that plus bonus content so it's literally an app where you you can watch and it's easy imagine that in canada that's wild how much is it um find out what this is good question is that is a good question you should make it dirt make it absolutely dirt cheap like i know you just won a cup but like you're still new yeah you're still building that base they did not say in the press release i do oh 699 for a single month or 6999 nice uh that's because because they say you're playing a dollar
Starting point is 01:05:54 per game 69 games oh and the first round of the playoffs are all included if the if the knights make it 69.99 for the entire dollar a game is a great deal that is good shit that's great and fans must be located within the team's territory the team's territory is huge ready nevada utah idaho montana wyoming and certain counties in california nebraska and arizona nice we'll all have access to this uh until you said california i was gonna say wow that's like 50 75 000 people sorry all the same i love this why are you taking what why are you taking shit john dutton they're not who else they're not the most populous states for nevada's got a lot of people nevada does i don't know man let me make jokes about sparse areas arthur morgan
Starting point is 01:06:46 dutch banderling shots at our poor listeners in wyoming do we have any wyoming listeners or North Dakota? Hell yeah, we do. South Dakota? I would assume. Is there a rivalry between North and South Dakota? Like, who's the Dakota champion?
Starting point is 01:06:58 They must. They ever spit over the border? Also, the app will, unlike so many... Listen, I'm not going to call anybody out here, but those who know, know.
Starting point is 01:07:10 There were certain streaming apps. We have two sports networks in Canada. One of them got it right. They were on every single thing. It wasn't them. It was the other one.
Starting point is 01:07:18 Well, then, there you go. I don't work there anymore either. uh apple tv amazon fire ios and roku night's time will be available across all of them okay i'll just say it tsn you could not get tsn on amazon until like last season it's amazon like i have a fire tv stick so i just run it off of that you couldn't get it yeah but the adam get a new tv no i just stream it the apps are built into no i will i will continue to have my cheap television and use my fires okay it's a fire stick 4k and i don't even up a 4k tv all right um but all the same listen i want i desperately want for all for all games
Starting point is 01:07:56 to be available on one app make it fucking easy and and here's the thing make it easy and we will pay the fee and all you have to do if you've got tsn or sportsnet running it is just pick up their feet wow imagine just like if there is a game on i want to be able to easily find it yeah oh man american listeners are like you guys have no idea apparently it's really tough to watch in the states like when because you had the regional and then you had tnt and then you had espn plus and then finding them sometimes even on espn plus is really hard yeah isn't every NHL game in the state's supposed to be on espn plus like if you're in the states you can just get yes but then there'd be localized blackouts for right for the reno i think so i was talking to shana goldman and dms
Starting point is 01:08:46 about it last year she messaged me and she was like it's hell when like okay it's 2023 when's the year that's no longer a thing um if if the nhl smart in canada find a streamer the next time rights come available and just give it all to them but they like the nhl likes multiple packages because ultimately you make more money the reason that espn didn't get all the games like sportsnet did uh or all the national games that is is because they learned their lesson from sportsnet you can't you don't want to give all the national games to one broadcaster because what it means is when that broadcaster can't make the money they thought they were going to make on it it degrades the product and because they'll start spending on it so what they did was they said okay we're
Starting point is 01:09:31 going to divide the national games up and then we're going to have a third package that's regional only and that's where you're going to get your your diamond sports group or whatever bally um and that's that's who's going to take those games and and the nhl in theory would make more money that way but if you look at what's happened with the mls and that messy season ticket and whatever it's worked out really really well so if you want to win like to me if you're a netflix or you're an apple or you're amazon and you just want to win canada buy the hockey rates or google as well because they got into the uh nfl game this this year apparently people have been loving uh youtube tv i think it's called yes where they have the red zone now and um in the states uh well it's not
Starting point is 01:10:12 red zone just all the nfl games um but like that's the ideal road for any of these big um professional sports leagues like i wish they would sell their broadcast packages as they sell it now but in all of those deals you have the clause where we sell one giant package with every single game to one of these online media companies you know one of the streamers let's say it's amazon amazon gets their own nhl thing we're on the amazon app is every single game and it's outside of all of their other broadcast deals that'd be the coolest way to have it so anybody who's doesn't want to do the technology side you know any of the older folks who don't want to download subscribe to prime or whatever they have the option of all the other tv stations all the blackouts and everything
Starting point is 01:10:57 but there's a tier where if you just want to give them your money you get everything people aren't that'd be cool people aren't cheap they're frustrated yeah like make it so i can turn on i can press button so for 80 a year i can watch every everything that happens in formula one commercial frame i have the f1 app too and it's the greatest thing in the world you watch it on demand so like tsn will break to commercial yep four or five times throughout a race and the race is still going they don't stop in in england they don't do that with sky sports right they're just great so i just i just was like okay well then i'll just buy the f1 subscription and i watch it i've had it for like two years i know now and i forgot about that i forgot that tsn breaks away
Starting point is 01:11:37 in the middle of the break they'll be in the middle of the past oh my goodness it's looking really close for alonzo here and it's you have you tried blah blah blah here's a cartoon bear wiping its ass on a tree yeah what's the uh what's the ricardo uh commercial they always play the carlsberg beer or something where he is he is ai he has his face ai'd onto his body and then ricardo lost his seat in f1 he has it again and so they they took ricardo's body and put sergio perez's ai face on it and he's like scooting away from a bar drinking zero percent heineken okay that's obvious they would air that 800 times during every race and it'd be so frustrating listen i'm not asking for hockey to be commercial free no i'm not i'm just saying it could be a lot
Starting point is 01:12:21 easier if we could just find one place where i could at least know where the game was just show me where i don't have to think that f1 apps is a gold standard i think about there's a there's a option steve on when you're watching the broadcast there's a little glow button or there's a little other button and you can switch broadcasts so if you want to watch the international feed or the sky sports feed you can just switch it on the fucking game while you're watching it's amazing and then all of the post game and pre uh pre-game stuff is right there too and it's within the same app and if you i i usually start races a little late you know if i'm not free at 9 a.m on a sunday or whatever and you can just start the race whenever you want you don't have to watch it
Starting point is 01:13:02 live it's all there to go back and forth you can stop and pause and rewind it's it's awesome and And it's how all sports should be at this point. We're going to figure it out. It's fantastic. Here's the crazy thing. It works too. What? I know.
Starting point is 01:13:15 Yeah. I don't think there's ever been a time. It doesn't freeze when there's no buffering. No buffering. Never. No. Never. Now that I think about it, that's never been an issue.
Starting point is 01:13:22 When they tell me when you're when I because I watch my my hockey games, I don't have cable. So I watch them on the sports net and the TSN app. I subscribe to both. It's a it's a write off for me. And that's what I do. It's an outrageous amount of money. It's like $80 tickets. as well it's yeah with my cc it's outrageous how much money those guys are charging for that
Starting point is 01:13:42 product but the the um the fact is that certain times you'll log on and like if i was watching your you know you're you streaming the game or whatever the playoffs first off my feed is 30 seconds behind you on youtube and you are seven or seven or eight seconds behind the actual broadcast feed on cable so i'm almost a minute behind play which means on twitter i know when the goals go in a minute before it happens on my fucking screen oh yeah wow there's a lot i don't understand it's just oh listen so this is why when they say oh we you know we have app issues or we have this or we have that i'm like i don't believe you i think it's just you were not prepared for it because i know other sports can do this i watch the issue is we weren't ready a hundred that's what it is
Starting point is 01:14:30 that's an issue yeah they're not wrong yeah i guess not i guess not um i wanted to uh i wanted to do this too because it is over reaction season and guys i want to rate this on a scale of like a one is don't even worry about it who cares it's preseason to 10 which is your this year's anaheim ducks okay um so you're it's either ducks or you're okay or fantasy football is out of mind Oh, yeah, fantasy football is Adam Wilde. I ask people what they are the most anxious about, okay? So, from an Ottawa Senators fan, Josh Norris in a non-contact jersey.
Starting point is 01:15:09 Yeah, I mean, if that was your biggest problem last year, I mean, goaltending would probably be up there or the health of the goaltenders. If Josh Norris being injured was your biggest problem last year and he's in a non-contact jersey right now, it's a problem. Is Tarasenko's success based on how because like who's playing center if Norris isn't healthy? Oh, just throw Shane Pinto in there. I'm serious, though.
Starting point is 01:15:37 Like he would probably be one of the candidates you would throw in there, but he's not freaking signed. A lot of people said this, guys. So so on that scale, like what do you give it out of 10? Your concern scale. Five. Jesse, what do you say? Josh Norris, non-contact jersey. I'm not worried.
Starting point is 01:15:55 You're not worried? Yeah, no, I'm at a... I don't know, what's the scale? Just say worried or not worried. Not worried. You're not worried, okay. I would say worried. Jesse, who do the Sens have penciled in there?
Starting point is 01:16:05 On daily face-off, they have Josh Norris on the second line. Yeah, and who's underneath him? Shane Pinto. I want Mark Kostelik to be feeding Vlad Tarasenko and Drake Batherson. Kastelik. How dare you? Or if it's the actual, it's Kastelich. and anytime you see an ic it's an itch oh that's how you're supposed to pronounce it so like sack
Starting point is 01:16:28 it's supposed to be sock itch that's originally how they would have you know how much footage we're gonna have to go back and edit i know it's crazy um calling them the wrong how about this one from leaf fans sam lafferty in the top six um you worried not worried you're not worried why Because they can fix it whenever they want by just making Nylander a winger again. Does that not create another problem at center on the third line? No.
Starting point is 01:16:58 Jesse, worried or not worried? Not worried. I think, I don't know if the Nylander center thing is going to play out. We'll see how it goes. I heard they were talking about it on the broadcast. Like, he'll do it during the regular season, but not the playoffs.
Starting point is 01:17:12 I'm like, what the fuck? I was like, what are we doing? Also, if you're spreading out the lines like that, we can't be as worried about the winger situation because you have such a dynamic one two three you know if if it works out then we should be less concerned about the the who's on what's considered top six and what's uh bottom six maybe the theory is uh at the trade deadline we'd rather add a winger than a center because it's cheaper yeah like that's why it's like a not worried situation also the leafs uh like farm system like the guys who are fighting for a spot on the team
Starting point is 01:17:44 are wingers they don't have a center who's ready to make this jump and if they do it's pontus holmberg who's not ready to be in the top six yeah so you know you look at a nice you look at robertson you look at like god even in alex steves i don't know if they have a wing uh center as good as alex steves is as a winger in in the system if that makes sense yeah no i think i think what you're saying is so true because sheldon keith he said that this was brad true living's idea and i think when tree got there he took a look at the organization and the lineup he said you know what the place we're thinnest is center and if we want to develop a center why don't we try nylander it's tried in the past he came in the league as a center let's give it a shot here
Starting point is 01:18:24 and that's the best way to go if they're trying to fill that hole right now and i don't know if it's going to work um based on how it's just been trending but we'll see these are not good good attempt so much of this is Sheldon Keefe's job though like you have three lines one with Matthews one with Tavares one with Nylander now there are yeah right now you have the talent on the wing to spread it out a bit I mean if Nylander really sucks and like you can't shelter him from those moments where it's going to get a little hairy come on now come on now that's the coach i don't know there's a lot of talk in the market on the traditional medias about hey nylander is not a 200 foot player so why are we trying to win at this 200 foot position
Starting point is 01:19:14 so if i don't know if that falls on shelton keith if those if those guys end up being right about that people adapt yeah um okay uh another one this is this came up a lot from bruins fans uh but i'll read jake's one um jake said mostly the holes at c1 and c2 remembering that coil had a hard time filling c2 when crechey left the natural regression from an all-time season like they had last year like so you know the the bruins do have some pretty big holes at center how worried are you about that for them uh try not to try to take your leaf fandom out of it too by the way yeah worried but not as worried as you'd think you got zaka coil morgan geeky and jesper boquist yeah worried but not as worried as you might think um all these guys are top six
Starting point is 01:20:06 players uh throughout their career until they get to the nhl um and then they got to adapt to the role of being a depth guy um i think pavel zaka in a top six role might actually work better than you think that's all okay i'm a little worried i mean yeah i mean listen you're going from bergeron and crechey to two guys who haven't even won the jobs yeah technically so yeah but like what you knew this you've known this for quite some time so like you can't look at it and go you're taking a step back man you know you are um ben who is a blues fan said the blues have nine defensemen signed to one one-way contracts players that i all like differently or sorry individually but not ones that mesh together or fit what we need i wonder if there's a trade to
Starting point is 01:20:59 be there with the the the leafs and the blues because the leafs defense is weird looking right dubas dubas is in pittsburgh now so the leafs can't trade with the blues anymore no i'm sure i'm sure he i i bet one of those guys ends up in pittsburgh yeah probably loves dealing with uh is it doug armstrong or bill doug it's doug doug doug armstrong yeah bill looks like ken he looks like a human ken bill armstrong in uh arizona he's tall and handsome hair hair is like adds like three inches to his body brunette johnny bravo yes yes a thousand percent this is the decor in san luis justin falk for 6.5 million dollars tory krug for 6.5 million million dollars Colton Pareko for $6.5 million.
Starting point is 01:21:50 No one takes more than six and a half. All signs for at least three years as well. Yeah, all of those are... Pareko for six years. All of those are four plus million years. Not even three, four plus years. Nick Letty, $4 million for three years. I like Nick Letty a lot.
Starting point is 01:22:07 Scandella for $3.275, expiring. Bertuzzo, $950. Tyler Tucker, $800. And Callie Rosen, $762. future pen cali rosen yeah oh 100 it's a lot of money to a lot of guys well it's okay jesse uh here you tell me if i have the wrong idea let's just trade justin falk no you probably can't do that why uh no trade clause oh okay let's just trade tory crude can't really do that no trade clause long-term contract oh okay let's trade colton pareko uh can't do that no trade clause
Starting point is 01:22:39 long-term contract uh you know he's a respected veteran but let's trade nick letty can't really do that three-year contract and no trade clause yeah you know it hurts because he's an even older respected veteran but let's trade marco scandela modified no trade clause you can do that oh well there's the answer i now people weigh no trade clauses all the time every name we just mentioned by the way is over 30 yep on their defense they have two guys who are uh under the age of 30 years old and that's tyler tucker and callie rosen callie rosen who's 29 yeah they have an old the shit i didn't know jordan bennington was 30 yeah because he came in the league a little late yeah i didn't know that either but yeah i watched him at the memorial cup and that was in 2011 he's
Starting point is 01:23:22 got four more years at six million my own that's an interesting one i didn't realize that about st louis's blue line that that will be one to watch i'm sure one of those guys moves this year they got to figure they have a d on uh pto that's hilarious who is that andy walensky andy walensky i don't know who is 30 you know i had some youth they love their 30 year old how many 30 year olds are there oh man they okay they're the ford's a little bit younger yeah ford group is a little younger and jordan cairo and robert thomas are going to be studs for a long time i still think they're gonna i liked what he was doing like he was after timo meyer at the trade deadline last year which is crazy yeah that's why i think oh they claimed casperi cabinet yeah you didn't
Starting point is 01:24:09 remember that i forgot about that waivers claim man is that the last year of his contract that he signed in toronto the 3.2 no no so he signed in pittsburgh for basically the same amount of money okay and wow 3.2 has not gone well by playing good um they said hey we're getting ready to get kyle dubas we got to get rid of capitan right away um uh there's no tampering from tom the defense and goaltending for the hawks is awful um tom is not terrible doesn't matter though because conor bedard he said it scares me more than the than flames fans watching markstrom playing the puck who are their goalies again marazic and the guy who's going to be playing a lot yeah because marazic will be injured it'll be bad or hurt he'll pull a groin dude uh
Starting point is 01:24:53 what do you think about that should they be worried does it matter no you want you probably want to be bad again to get somebody to play for with bedard yes no the best thing a rebuilding team can do if you are not ready to try and win yet is get a bad goalie situation okay for a million dollars can you tell me who the backup goaltender in chicago is no 10 million someone on waivers like surely they're going to claim someone off waivers um 10 million dollars okay is it someone who they signed this summer yes it is yes they were acquired through a signing oh let me check it was this summer i just checked those uh they acquired him through a signing it was uh this summer on may 10th actually what wow how davidson signed this player on uh may 10th
Starting point is 01:25:51 That was to extend their deal because he was a RFA. No, Colin D'Elia is in Vancouver now. I don't know. This is an undrafted goaltender. I'm taking $10 million off the table, and now it's $900,000. From Sweden, 24 years old, catches left, 6'3". Catches the most common way.
Starting point is 01:26:16 180 pounds, undrafted. signed his first deal at the age of 22 on May 17th, 2021 and then re-upped with Chicago on May 10th, 2021. Carl Soderstrom. Almost!
Starting point is 01:26:31 I just said the most Swedish name I could think of. I made it up. Oh my God! His name is Arvid Soderblom. That's hilarious! Wow!
Starting point is 01:26:43 I made a name up and I almost got it. Well done. That's funny. That's great. oh gosh um wow that's not a real person it might actually be oh it is it's probably a guy out there i almost said sodas carl you said i said carl's and i thought about saying soda blonde that's hilarious arvid soda blonde wow
Starting point is 01:27:07 anyways um who is that you got another one um this is from whale of a time on twitter i'm deeply concerned by the amount of adult men in their late 20s who apparently have grown a full inch over the summer oh this is yeah so every year i want to say it's kyle cushman or david alter or maybe both they point out because they they release the heights and weights of leaf players at training camp and every year they weigh a different number which is believable but they are also a different height which is just not it's just you're wrong yeah you either you're wrong now or you were wrong last year but either way you're wrong the 25 year old did not grow an inch over the summer no it's just or it's about it's about how they measure them some some
Starting point is 01:27:58 years they'll measure them in shoes some some years it'll be a barefoot and it'll just whoever's running the measuring tape needs to get consistent yeah this guy's down 15 pounds like it might just be like he took a bigger dump this morning than he did last year like before getting weighed like it's it's silly it's very silly goosery did you guys read the story and i'm going to move on from the anxiety report but i think i'll revisit that because that was really fun to read that was fun um did you read that anxiety report yeah i'm going to call it the anxiety report uh rasmus ristolainen could not get proper training this summer as he had to go into the army according to john tortorella he was in the army for eight weeks wow uh i'm willing to bet he got some
Starting point is 01:28:42 training oh i think he got physical training yeah it just probably wasn't on the ice um the other one i thought was interesting uh was evgeny kuznetsov who has had a rough relationship with the caps for a while he said this uh about the organization it feels like this it feels like in this organization those who want to be here are kicked out and those who don't want to be here are left behind he requested a trade this summer didn't get it um this is a guy who's there's been a there's been stuff with with koozie but he's a great hockey player he's an incredible hockey player he makes too much money um and it's a shame because i feel like the caps have unless i'm missing something they've largely done right by him you know so seeing this situation get
Starting point is 01:29:33 fractured like i mentioned tractor chalabins um going to the khl final yeah koozie was with them and he was like a big star for that team like he doesn't come from like wealth you you hear very often like oh this guy uh is the son of this player who was the son of this player like we're now entering the third generation um of nhl superstars it's it's a little bit like wrestling now um with the rock and his dad and his dad before him and everything like that um and he made it and he couldn't have made it even better and it's kind of falling apart it's actually like it's sad for me to see as someone who's kind of watched the story from the beginning right right i mean he still got the bag he still got the ring so maybe we shouldn't feel that bad for
Starting point is 01:30:28 him but i don't i don't feel bad for him i don't feel bad for him but like this is very obviously a situation in washington that needs to change because that's a team that is they're in flux i can understand why they don't want yeah that's what i mean yeah like they're they're just it's like they got to make a call one way or the other you trade kuznets off you're not going to get who the hell's you're knocking evgeny kuznetsov well and that and that money yeah but his his problem was with laviolette right like yes and a lot of players have a problem with laviolette yeah and the reason he's doing this now is because laviolette's not there anymore you know spencer carby is in there i think that's and he's probably feeling a lot better about the team now that he
Starting point is 01:31:05 has a new head coach who isn't playing in a style that doesn't want to play he would know a lot of the players in the system because before he was in toronto he was in hershey there you go washington's farm team so i feel like there's an opportunity i feel like he's being open and honest about this right now because he knows the guy who he hated is out which is what basically all european players do the moment they're in front of a reporter from their own country yeah it's an annual tradition it usually happens earlier than this yeah it's weird that it's coming out now yeah there's been some spicy comments from camp this is damn coast and it's been good a lot of unhappy players yeah yeah it's uh well you know what though movement's been a bit i mean there have been some good trades
Starting point is 01:31:47 and that sort of thing but movement's been stifled over the last three four years right true um and you know flat cap and covid and all the other things i think there are a lot of players that would like to move on here's the other thing i think you're going to start to see the shorter term deals come fast and furious um these eight-year contracts that these guys are signing good for them but they are leaving money on the table and also what if you just get tired of you each other but it's like ah all right what do you mean i got five more years left with these fucking bums i don't think so also like yeah okay the cap's going up but you're like if you can't pull off what the devil's pulled off and yes the sins with tim stutzela um
Starting point is 01:32:24 like at some point you got to go ah fuck it that's a few years from now's problem here and you just you give them something to get them there how would you describe gentlemen florida's politics um chaotic okay but but but you would say a good word in in um uh how how likely is the government to fund things uh i would say uh very unlikely i would say no very likely well you mean like i mean some social programs things like that oh sorry i thought you meant arenas ah you're asking a very specific question yeah yeah no social programs go fuck yourself so if you play professional sports yeah have you heard about what's going on in jacksonville i have not so shaheed uh shaheed khan who owns um the jaguars uh he is valued at uh 12 billion
Starting point is 01:33:20 dollars the jags themselves are off or apparently valued at 3.4 billion dollars the jacksonville jaguars have said that they need a new place to play uh it will have to be a domed stadium because of the rain in florida obviously and also the heat uh he said that they will need a billion dollars in tax funding to make this place so they're not gonna do it and they've said do you like football jacksonville fans well great you're we're getting a billion dollars or we're leaving then leave dude that's uh a billion dollars sorry i said it would cost a billion dollars to make it No, that's just what they're asking for from the city. A billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:34:06 From the city. Well, yeah. And probably city and state together, you would think. You would have to. And Steve, you know Shahid Khan. His son is Tony Khan. No way. The Khan family owns AEW.
Starting point is 01:34:24 And Tony Khan runs AEW. And his son runs it, yeah. oh i did i knew i did actually sort of know that yeah okay wow and so yes dad owns the jaguars in aw oh you just fired cm punk though that freed up a bunch of money you'll pay for your own damn building no this is a this is a person who could very much build a football stadium oh yeah there's money's not a problem here yeah pathetic it's so pathetic uh they rarely make the playoffs although they have the last 3-4 years but yeah it's not
Starting point is 01:34:56 it's looking like they might go now I want to tell you this one last story if we do a press conference it just has to wait for this one have you heard about this crazy Canadian soccer story happened a couple weeks ago I don't think so a CF Montreal player from the Canadian Premier League
Starting point is 01:35:13 had his contract terminated do you know why no CF Montreal attacking midfielder matko milovich uh violated his major league soccer contract by not only playing in a quebec amateur soccer league uh but he was also banned indefinitely from that league for reportedly punching an opponent in the face in order to sign up for the league he had to sign up under a fake name so wait this professional hockey uh soccer professional soccer player forced to have it yeah
Starting point is 01:35:47 signed up to play amateur soccer and then when he did he did it with a fake name and punched a guy in a game yeah yeah sorry and that's an mls player not as why did i say canadian premier league i meant mls oh okay i was like so it's an mls major league soccer i'm like wait is no no no no this is an mls player so that's a lot more money than the canadian premier league and he went and played in a quebec league and punched a guy in the face and you can't play in another league when you're under contract in the mla what are you doing oh like forget playing in another league like i've heard of hockey players like being banned from like skateboarding like i what was that long boarding bronson arroyo i think was a he he was in a band and they and the red sox banned him from
Starting point is 01:36:33 playing any more shows until the playoffs i remember that what yeah he didn't i didn't know that i remember he was a good player but like he was i guess he'd had too many late nights and they were like concerned about fair enough so i got it but never did anybody what did anybody ask him why nobody what's the background the love of music oh no no he's earning more than five hundred thousand dollars a year or was and he had it torn up why did why did he go play in this other league was it specifically just did he have like is that guy his enemy no it was just a guy he got he did in a game he signed up under the name nicholas uh sotelo um uh basically uh quebec officials quickly found out who he was uh and he was told to use his real alias if he wished to
Starting point is 01:37:26 keep playing he chose not to do so uh and perhaps that was the only wise decision he made as mls rules state a player cannot engage without the consent of his team in sports or activities that contribute substantial danger to their health and safety right so no skateboarding um uh i guess he was at a game for his friend's team and it is alleged uh he his friend alleged allegedly spat on an opposition player and then after being insulted uh he allegedly hit the opponent in the face and then he was ejected from the facility so he wasn't even playing oh dude i don't know isn't this a wonky story i've been meaning to get to this for a couple it was so he wasn't in the league i know he
Starting point is 01:38:13 was playing in the league he just wasn't playing at that game this uh this sounds like quite the bag fumble that's fucking half a million bucks a year just ripped up gone and now where are you gonna go well there's a million soccer leagues in the world you can go somewhere no i know but like i assume you can't continue to play an mls no they they said you're out torpes deal and i mean what other mls team is gonna sign you oh well and like i assume he's in the mls because they offered him half a million dollars yeah and he wasn't getting that anywhere else oh dear oh shit that's rough anyway that's really bad kind of thing you only see in soccer you do not see that in in other sports like you don't see a hockey player signing
Starting point is 01:38:57 up under an alias playing elsewhere unless like a gag not well an alias yeah but like ryan smith played in a senior league and he got tuned really after retiring he got like there's footage of it he got uh completely knocked unconscious by a player oh yeah there there was a swedish show that put peter forsberg into a men's league game yeah and he had a full mask on and he just gets out there and just walks everybody and then you see some of the the the players are like yeah he's familiar like is that peter forsberg and it was like a comedy show in sweden very funny is that boulder on skates yeah he was a boulder on skates yeah and he started playing bad and then he started figuring it out i feel like it's harder to hide in hockey yes i
Starting point is 01:39:44 like those videos where like kairi irving's dressed up like an old man and he goes out to a basketball yeah yeah but like you know it's easy to pretend to be bad at hockey but then to gradually get better like huh he learned how to do backward crossovers really quickly and it's pretty complicated stuff right yeah it's a little more difficult than just running around jesse there's a video of aaron rogers who he's working at starbucks and then this girl comes up to him and she's like you look like aaron rogers and he's like no it's not me and he's not in a disguise he's just pretending that it's not him and she's like you know aaron rogers is he's really hot and he's like i don't think so you know that guy and it's really good yeah for
Starting point is 01:40:25 sure not an actor uh here i'm just i'm looking up aaron rogers size like okay 1.88 meters thanks for that friggin wikipedia gosh darn it six foot two 223 pounds you'd know he'd be one of the biggest baristas i've ever seen he he the size of aaron rogers and also has his face you're not buying the video no who randomly go who would go to a barista and go hey you look like this person and also I find that person hot
Starting point is 01:40:59 sorry red flag red flag what are you doing harassing the baristas you weirdo he's trying to do their job I thought it was a funny video should we no no it wasn't I don't know can I get your opinion on usher doing Super Bowl guys
Starting point is 01:41:14 yeah it'd be fun yeah i think it'll be fun there seemed to be like a backlash to it though i don't know if there was there was there were people like why him on your timeline yeah my timeline why usher uh yes um because like they had to they had to put like kendrick lamar and eminem and 50 cent and all mary j blige all had to be in one group and then like jennifer lopez and shakira had to team up because neither were big enough and then usher on his own that's what people are saying usher again we're old we're old
Starting point is 01:41:48 so the artists that were huge when we were kids are now getting to do the Super Bowl because we're old yeah and Usher was the biggest artist in the world for like four or five years yeah parts of four or five years parts of half a decade
Starting point is 01:42:04 confessions man confessions big album okay Jesse you're down we're old yeah also he's really good live i've seen him he's amazing he's doing a vegas residency isn't he oh is he oh makes a lot of sense then um i believe oh man the adele one's apparently amazing our childhood acts are doing vegas residency i know that's where it's at in the super bowl we should uh we should try and get tickets when we're down there for the draft next year
Starting point is 01:42:32 oh to adele i don't know still be on hopefully hopefully she's still doing it i probably sold out i've heard she's amazing live but i do feel like like i my expectations of a concert i like high energy stuff so i find i would find that there'd be a lot of sitting for me if it's not that man hailing i'm not going let's go where's the guitar solo adele i just know i just want to have a conversation with adele you do she seems like a riot my wife's been to a adele concert and apparently between songs she just like talks to the crowd yeah almost like an open mic that's cool jan arden's like that she seems chill yeah jan arden seems chill jan arden's chill as hell i would awesome i would have an edible with jan arden yeah for sure gaga's got a residency too
Starting point is 01:43:14 i would see that she's good the second time gaga's been brought up on the show today it's kind of random i i would be a little monster for the night i would do it there you go i feel like a lot of people just got really uncomfortable oh yeah oh yeah yeah sorry that I didn't think about that before I said it like most things anyway do we want to do a press conference
Starting point is 01:43:38 I'll hit the button are you going to hit the button Steve we have a live show on Friday tell me about your little monster Steve fucking absolutely not we got a live show Friday guys
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