The Steve Dangle Podcast - Present & Future | April 6, 2018

Episode Date: April 7, 2018

Please donate if you can to honour the legacy of Jonathan Pitre: http://debracanada.org/ On this episode, UFC 223 / Conor McGregor (02:00), we could get a one game NHL Playoffs play-in game (16:00), the Caps can't actually fire Barry Trotz (29:00), the Blackhawks and Flames might overreact (33:30), goodbye Henrik and Daniel and Derek (1:10:00), Taylor Hall is gonna win the Hart (1:32:00), the most amazing baseball names ever (1:41:00). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey guys, it's Steve. Just got home from recording the podcast. Unfortunately, we got to start on just two awful notes. One is we didn't mention Jonathan Petra in the show, and shame on us, that's my fault, because he's hockey royalty. And I'm sure you knew about him. He was a huge Ottawa Senators fan, had a rare condition called EB, and unfortunately he passed away. And there's nothing I could possibly say about him to do him justice, but James Duthie comes very close. So I'll read what TSN's James Duthie said. Jonathan was the most courageous young man I've ever met. He had the toughest life imaginable and yet always saw the positive in it. Always found hope through endless pain. His disease gave him a purpose to help educate and to help other kids with EB. We will never forget him. We're going to include a link down below to deborahcanada.org uh that's an organization that i'm sure jonathan uh would have appreciated it um if you uh if you supported them uh if you can the other is a developing story i don't want to say too much

because uh not all the details are out yet but it sounds like a junior a team called the humble broncos um their team bus collided with a semi truck it sounds bad i don't want to say details because they aren't confirmed yet, but it sounds very bad. So keep the family of Jonathan Petra in your prayers tonight and also keep all of Humboldt in your prayers tonight. Panago Pizza presents S.T.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde.

Is it cynical of me to think that Dana White loves every second of this? Uh, it is misguided You think it's misguided? I think he's actually mad I think he's actually mad Adam, why don't you think he's mad? Well, because Dana White Dana White is the ultimate

Don't look at me through the microphone He's the new Don King, right? Every promotion is everything Oh, he grips people For sure, well He's also, um Any promotion is good promotion Like, when the fighters get up on the stage

These guys who are assassins, these people who are in the best physical shape of their entire life, and he puts one fat arm in front of the two of them and goes, no, guys, you can't fight each other. I've got my big fat arm in front of you. Stop it. Come on. You know, like this. And listen, I know that he's mad. There's no question that he's mad. There's no there's good reason to be mad.

But don't tell me that he's not at least a little bit thinking this is really good for my card this weekend. The card lost three fights. You would be thinking that if McGregor didn't ruin the main event. Right. So if it had just been a minor event, it would be fine. So, okay, what was ruined? Because I saw something about a face-off between Khabib and someone who wasn't Holloway. I know who none of these people are.

So Holloway is now out. Why is he out? That had nothing to do with McGregor. Holloway's out because he couldn't make weight. But he was a replacement anyway. And then he was a replacement on short notice anyways. Of the original guy who got injured. And by the way, weighing is so dumb.

It's so dumb. Is it not the dumbest? No, no, no. It's necessary, but the way they do it is a little dumb. Okay, but we won't get into that. Continue, Jesse. Sorry to interrupt. So Holloway's, I forget the original fighter's name who was actually on this card.

He tripped over, I think, an electrical cord and he tore some ligament in his knee. Tony Ferguson. Tony Ferguson. There you go. So yeah, he got taken out and then Holloway comes in. They're like, okay, you've got to lose, I think it was 32 pounds in 12 days. So don't eat. And he's like, don't eat.

I'm going to do it. What was the fight at? At 155. Max Holloway walks around at 180? Yeah, so he needed to get down to like, I think it was 32 or 22, one or the other. How do you do that without surgery? I'm going to sketch you on the details. But I'm going to put down Fortnite so I can keep telling this story.

Or you play Fortnite online. Yo, the best, right? Man, anyway. Some fighters lose 30 pounds easily. Brock Lesnar did it, but he's also, he walks around close to 300 pounds. Yeah, it's percentage of weight, right? He's like, that's a chunk of you. That's only 10%.

For somebody like that, that would be like 20% of their weight. Yeah, so the athletic commission told him he can't keep losing weight because it won't be healthy for him to fight at 155 for the next week. How does Cyborg ever fight? So he had to drop out of the fight, and then they bring in, oh, so then Holloway doesn't make weight. So then now they're trying to find replacements, And the two replacements who weighed in, they weighed in at 155.2.

Which is okay. Which is okay to fight, but they need to be at 155 or under to make it a title fight. So the .2 knocks out any title opportunity for that fighter. So this weekend, I forgot the guy's name, he's going to be fighting this weekend. Eli Quinta, I think. Yeah, and then, um, if, uh, Afflebet Soup last name. Uh, Nurmaga. Ariel Helwani does such a good job of it.

It's Khabib. Khabib. If Khabib wins, he gets the title. If the other guy wins, he doesn't get the title. He just gets a win. Because he's not under, he's not the right weight. So that's their main event for tomorrow night, which is completely fucked. You might have noticed we haven't talked about UFC on the show in a very long time.

And that's because, like, I don't know if I like it anymore Well, I was watching the I like MMA Sorry No, I was watching the whole thing And I'm cutting you off here But to add to your point I was watching the press conference with Dana White today

And I guess So they strip Conor McGregor Who hasn't fought in 500 days Well, like, if you want the attention so bad, Conor, fight! Yeah, so he hasn't fought in 500 days And they strip him of the title So apparently what he did was He loaded up his buddies

From Ireland And they flew over And this is what Dana White said That's one part of what happened, yeah. And then they started what they started. That's kind of the... After they found out he was going to strip them. He's got a training partner named Artem Lobov.

Who was going to fight. And supposedly Khabib and his crew got in his face because Lobov was talking some mad trash. So then they, again, literally just fly across, come to this media day that, like, I don't think anyone even knew they were coming to, and McGregor friggin' throws a dolly through a bus window. But, okay, in order for your publicity theory to be, like, solid...

I'm not saying they set this up. All I'm saying... Well, it's just, like, fighters got injured. That's why they can't fight. No, no, no, I'm not saying that this was a... I'm not saying there's a conspiracy here. I'm just saying Dana White's going, this sure is a lot of attention on me and my brand.

But it's not good attention. Doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. It distracted from earlier in the day, he might have ruined the main event of WrestleMania. Did you hear that? Oh, with Lesnar coming back to the UFC? Because he basically goes, yeah, Lesnar's coming back to the UFC.

Which, by the way, like, now I can't take that aspect of UFC seriously because Jon Jones got chastised for his drug offenses, and rightfully so. But now you're going to bring back Brock Lesnar. With no—didn't he win the championship or win the title? They caught him doing drugs and then they didn't even strip him? Like, wasn't that—or they caught him doing steroids? No, no, no. There was a fight?

He came back for 200, was caught on steroids. He fought Mark Hunt, who is, I mean, very obviously not on steroids. And, I mean, these guys are taking blows to the head, which, I mean, that risk comes with the territory. But you want to know that the guy punching you in the head isn't on roids. So, I mean, I can't watch a fight with confidence that it's clean. The belts mean literally nothing. Nothing! The 145 belt is a wash.

The 155 belt is a wash. Lots of the belts are a wash. Well, one of the women's belts, I think it was the 145 one. The first, I don't even remember her name. She won the belt and then found out she had to fight Chris Cyborg next and just decided, I don't want it anymore. Really? Nobody wants to fight Chris Cyborg.

She's monstrous. Yeah. She will punch a hole through your neck. So, I don't know. I can't, it's hard to be a fan of UFC. So, Jesse, is it hard for you to be a fan of UFC, given what just happened? Does this change anything for you? Yeah.

How? The UFC isn't in a good position right now, because they can't put a good card together. They have no fighters who consistently win, so you can't build anybody up. And then their biggest star is running around like he's on a bunch of drugs. What? Which is the latest rumor. Well yeah everyone Rumor just everyone on Twitter is like

Yeah McGregor's on drugs Dude he threw a doll He threw a bus But when I look at that like honestly In a foreign country might I add That guy got arrested in a place where He doesn't live When you look at that honestly

It's not like he won't be back I don't know I said after the Mayweather fight He's living the dream Like four years before that fight he was on like government assistance and now he's got nine digits of money at least nine or ten digits millions upon millions and he's like a new father and you're going off to another country to an event you weren't even invited to getting arrested and you have a short career as a fighter

man fighter retire what is this nonsense i didn't understand the and the one terrible thing about this is he's going to get sued. And he's going to lose so much of that money that he earned in the Mayweather fight. He'll lose money through the lawyers defending him. All of those guys he took off the card this weekend, they're going to sue him.

Yeah, of course they are. The UFC should sue him. Dana White should sue him. Or he could come back for a fight and they forgive everything, which I think is going to happen. No, but the other guys don't care for McGregor. Oh no, but I mean the UFC's not going after Conor McGregor. They need him. And he knows that.

Maybe they need him until they get a new star That's that's the point the the problem with the UFC is fought in a very long time. They have Centralized they centralized on two people for a while there in like 2015 it was Ronda Rousey until she lost and it was Conor McGregor Pretty much and pretty much and you know like in the picture like when he fought Nate Diaz, right? It was kind of like that was one of the big It was one of the big events and then he there was this huge upset And then he fights him again, and it's one of the best fights They've ever had in the whole company and I think he fought once more and that's it. That's it

So I mean they either have to go out and find some new fighters The best order they got it They got to eat crow and bring him back and wait till he loses the best athlete in the sport Let's assume that's what we're calling him has never defended his belt He won the 145 never defended it won the 155 never defend now Now, if you're in his court, ignore the fact that he just threw, you know, a dolly through a window, which was a terrible idea. If you get stripped, it sure is far better to make the UFC the enemy rather than you lose. Do you know what I mean?

So from a PR perspective, and go with me on this one just for a second, okay? Get crazy. Let's get crazy. If you lose that belt. JFK. Yeah. If you lose that belt, you've lost. If you're stripped of that belt,

the UFC is the enemy and people are still on your side because you haven't been beaten. Because why else is he not fighting? Well, because he doesn't need to. Exactly. Exactly. So what's he showing up for?

Because he wants people on his side. Because he knows he's a populist fighter. You're 29, loaded. You got a girlfriend who supports you. Why would he fight again? Unendingly, you got a child. And risk injury for the rest of his life. he doesn't need to

well that's what I'm saying and that's and that's the thing is that what he can do is become that's what I'm saying Brooksie what he can do

is become a broadcaster damn it oh yeah so there's should we move on from UFC to Saturday night our first live podcast

that's right it's really not our first I guess it's our second it's our first live it's our first live because we're live streaming live podcast in front of more than

12 people yeah I count the Panago one as the live podcast Yeah, I just put a stipulation on it. You know what sounds less cool? Our second live podcast. Well, this is the first one that's going to be accessible worldwide

at the time of recording. Live streamed podcast. So that's the thing. I think in that way it's a first because that was kind of like live to tape, whereas this is actually live. And so it's going to be a lot of fun. It's going to be at the rec room.

There are some tickets that do still come up on Reddit. If you go to the Steve Dangle Reddit page and you cannot come, Please give up your tickets to somebody else who would like to come. There are people flying in from, like, Dallas? Fort Worth, I saw. Yeah. Like, that's crazy.

And there's a few people driving from a decent distance. I think there's a few driving up from the States as well, which that just blows my mind. I don't care. You know what? Save the gas money. Don't come. Yeah. Yeah.

We're not worth it. Don't come. Sure. Steve Dangle podcast, and that's the end of the episode. Imports Dragon is actually going to donate a prize. Now, I was mentioning this, that they've got a bunch of, like, you know, all the figures that Steve gets. They're all Imports Dragons ones, but they've got Matthews 12 inches, JVR 12 inches, Willie 12 inches. They're all available at Walmart.com, but basically, and you can get Lundquist, Price, Waugh, Belfort, and Chicago.

There's a whole bunch of figures available, but we will have a prize pack, which includes a 6-inch Willie. Wow! No, I don't even know if it does. I'd just like to say six-inch Willie. I think we should call it the six-inch Willie prize pack. Yeah, we should. I'm not sure how they would feel about it. What if we gave away nine of those six-inch Willies?

Oh, well, that'd be nice. Do you think people would say we're nice guys? I think they would. Total attendance tomorrow, by the way, expected to be 420. Steve, where did you want to go with this until I interrupted you? With what? Well, I mean, with the show, it seemed like you were going to bring something up. So there's a new thing on Reddit, and it is the Steve Dangle podcast bingo game.

Oh. Which I think there's a legitimate chance we could fill the board every single show. Yeah, but it makes me uncomfortable because when I read through it, I'm like, oh, we're just a broken record. It didn't make me feel good about myself. You could just build, like, a robot, like a Siri-like robot to just spit out our catchphrases. I'm looking forward to that. And it would probably sound like a good episode. All right.

Awkward. It's funny, but... Oh, my God. Is the South Park reference on there? It is. It probably is. Like, you know what's going to suck? When we're feeling really good about ourselves, like, partway through the live show, and someone

just goes, bingo! Because we're going to hit it. See, now somebody's going to do it. Now it's going to happen in the first half. I hope they do. No. I hope they do. A hot take is a jam.

But I wanted a Ferrari cake is on there. Dude, I said it for like three, four, five, six episodes. Yeah, you said it like eight weeks in a row. Listen, some of these are pretty new. Like Mitch did a Mitch thing. That's new. Yeah, but Tavares has a Leaf daydream. Like that was literally last episode.

And also saying Steve yelling is too easy. We've done Tavares so many times. No. Yeah. There's YouTube clips I've cut in like January of, hey, Tavares is coming to the Leafs. And then we did it. Is that how we sound?

Is that how your impression is? Hey, Jesse, what's your podcast telling? We're on a show that's like this. I'm Steve Dangle. Hello, I'm Adam Ward. This is the impression you do when you're just impersonating somebody and just like it. This is this guy. He kind of talks like this.

Why are your hands up in the air? Because it's like boppity boppity. That's Steve Dangle. Steve Dangle. He's Italian. Jesse's from Foja. I love Foja, Jesse. Jesse DiPuglia.

Good Sicilian man, Steve Dangle. Hey, Jesse, there's a thing I wanted you to bring up, so pull that up. Cat-friendly? No, not that. What is it? No, the thing we were talking about on Messenger, Steve. Oh, Tuesday. What if, what if, everybody, there was an extra playoff game

that was not technically a part of the playoffs? Maybe a game, 83, a wild card to determine the wild card. Well, and if we get this, there will technically be two, in a way, because Saturday night's game between Colorado and St. Louis will decide the final wild card in the West, and there could potentially be another. Jesse, explain this to us. If Philadelphia loses its final game of the season

by exactly two goals, that's Saturday versus the Rangers, and Florida wins its final two games, both in shootouts, then we get a play-in game on Tuesday. Because that would be a perfect tie. A perfect tie. So they would have the same amount of regulation plus overtime wins, that have the same amount of points in their series and the same points in the regular standings

and the same goal differential on the season. Which would be crazy. That would be nuts. The Panthers, who are their last two games against? Because you said the Flyers have the Rangers. Yes. Which is a game I saw recently. And the Rangers didn't look great, and they lost.

The Panthers have Buffalo and Boston, Saturday, Sunday. Boy, oh boy. And by the way, that Sunday game might not just be to get the Panthers into the playoffs, but it could be Boston playing for first place in the East. It also might not happen. They could also just scratch the entire game from the schedule because it's a make-up game from earlier in the year, and if it had no playoff implications, they would just cancel it.

No way. That's trash. Why are we playing this extra game? It doesn't matter. No, they should have to play. They should absolutely have to play that. You don't have to play a game if it doesn't mean anything to the standings. You can cancel the game.

Okay, the Leafs. The Leafs have third locked up Hold on The Habs aren't gonna It happens in baseball All the time Because there's rain delays And if the teams

Don't play again There's no way to schedule Double headers You can just cancel the game What game of the season Did Nikita Zaitsev Get hurt in last year Wasn't it against Columbus

In the last game I don't know They should absolutely Have to play that game That's trash That is huge trash No but it makes sense So if both sides

Agreed to cancel Yeah you can cancel Because it doesn't have Any effect on the standings Neither does Toronto Montreal That's sort of bullshit No, but it's a game you're playing.

That does have an effect on the standings because Montreal could win the game and move up or down the draft line. Here's what's surprising to me about that. We're getting to the bottom of this. Montreal could get Darlene because they lose Saturday to Toronto. It has an effect on standings.

If this Sunday game had absolutely no effect on any team moving up or down, just cancel it. Who cares? Who gives a shit? If I'm an advertiser, I care. If I'm a broadcaster, I care. Because I have sold advertising time for that game.

you're telling me that you're not going to play it, then you're reimbursing it. That game is actually super important for Montreal. If I'm the broadcasting channel, let's say I'm Sportsnet. I personally am Sportsnet. I'm all of Sportsnet. Wow. And you decide to cancel your hockey game. Let's say it's Toronto-Montreal.

Give it a local flair. It's Saturday night, which they would never do. They would never cancel a Hockey Night in Canada game. But if it's Saturday night, Toronto-Montreal both go, you know what, it doesn't affect the standings, let's cancel it. what happens to the money that I'm expecting

as the broadcaster who paid you the NHL for the rights to broadcast that game and it's an insane amount of money by the way

what happens see funny thing about the game it's already been cancelled it already didn't exist but you still you still sold it though Jesse no it got cancelled

if it got cancelled what's it doing on the schedule they rescheduled it they postponed it man and that's the thing if you sell if you sold that you have to pay that back

as the broadcaster Jesse you could be making so much more money as a lawyer yeah what are you doing here I don't know why am I sitting

with you you schmucks you just didn't want to go to school for eight years watching us do this all the time

I'm just like these guys are in here and they're oh oh you should be a lawyer

you should be a lawyer I said to Steve I think I'm being a little hard on a friend that's crazy to me

that's crazy I feel like if I'm the broadcaster I'm calling up the NHL being like you owe me some cash watch some baseball it's just very i mean i i feel bad because i came up with this thing called beba which is basically baseball things that make

no sense that i can't explain what is the hockey equivalent of that fielder's choice i don't know beba beba that's beba yeah i mean yeah it's a good point what's the hockey equivalent of that because like every game they're just making up stuff oh i'm just fine i don't know what happened in Nashville earlier this week. Okay. Well, wait, wait a minute.

That goal, Adam gets to call and you say it's. I say it's a goal. Oh, you're so wrong. You're so wrong. You're wrong on this one.

Yeah, I'm captain dump on the refs. I'm mostly just saying it because I know you guys are going to say it's not. Oh, well, come on. And I'm team Carrie

Underwood. So fuck you guys. Wow. I'm kidding. I'm kidding. And Kiefer Sutherland, apparently, who randomly interjected in there. Yeah, when did he become a Nashville Predators fan? When it became cool.

Yeah. That's when it became cool, I guess. Well, here's the thing. How do you do, fellow hockey fans? It's so funny. The night, I guess, according to Elliott Freeman, the night before the NHL officially moved, the goaltender interference called at the Situation Room in Toronto.

It sent out a league-wide memo asking executives, coaches, and players to stop complaining about the reviews. And then here we are. That was the right call, though. Like, you can't move the goalie with your stick, which is what they did. But a lot of people didn't feel that way. That's fine. A lot of people disagreed, Steve.

They're allowed. A lot of people said, but actually. Well? I just think it's funny how. Who is the team that gets screwed over in Game 7 of their playoff series on a goalie interference goal? Whoever's in the cup final. That's my answer. My bet is that it's Nashville

And no offense I mean Nashville's been so great It's always the team with the best story That's been so great That's been like a A real like feel good story Oh no then it's Vegas Can you imagine

The expansion Golden Knights Are about to win the Stanley Cup Except Goalie interference Okay now who are they playing Who are they playing Here let me pull it up I'm gonna pull it up

No it's gotta be someone Boston Yeah, it's got to be Boston because it's got to be Marchand, Bergeron, or vice versa. Because the refs are so against us all the time. Is that what Boston said? Is that what people in Boston are saying? No, it's okay. I like Bruins fans.

I think we get along swimmingly, but I think during the playoffs, I might lose some Bruins fans, friends. I might because they can't say a damn thing when it comes to any call ever. They're not allowed. They're forbidden from speaking. You get everything and have for like eight years. The fact that Marchand was not suspended for cross-checking a guy in the face while he was falling a couple of games ago.

I'm surprised he didn't have to pay. You can't suspend a guy when the playoffs are about to start. Right? Except for when he spears a guy in the nuts last season with two games to go. Yeah, but Jake Dodgion. They accidentally suspended him then. I mean, Jake Dodgion probably deserved it. If there's any player that deserved it, it would have been Jake Dodgion,

the way he plays. Let's be honest. It would have been Brad Marchand spearing himself in the nuts. That's who it would have been. If Jake Dodgion and Brad Marchand had, at the same exact second to the millisecond, speared each other in the nuts, could you have suspended either of them? No. Here's what you do.

You have Brad Marchand jump on Zidane O'Chara's shoulders, Jake Dodgion jumps on Victor Hedman's, and they friggin' nut-joust, and they just both try to spear each other off of the other. I give it I give it to Hedman just because he's a little lower and have a lower sense of gravity and they are aiming low

right so I would think I would think that it would be easier not easy but easier to knock Chara off his balance Marchand would be you know

aiming down which would knock himself off balance right and then he would eat it right no like think of what I want to know

the number what percentage of goals are reviewed and what percentage of goals are overturned because how many goals are in the playoffs how many of those goals are super important

one goal games overtime it's going to happen I mean a bunch of Nashville fans are listening right now going um this happened this already happened can you imagine yes I can it happened but you got to admit

that wasn't overtime when's it going to happen so it's going to happen to Vegas against Boston. Game seven. Yeah, the only unrealistic thing about that is the Leafs are going to beat Boston. Yes, they are. But I could see that movie scenario.

Now, our hockey seer, Gus Katsaros, who predicted, rightfully, that the Chicago Blackhawks would not make the playoffs on this very show. He did. And he was banging the hell on on that one. I don't think he could have predicted that Duncan Keith would have two goals, but...

Oh, does he have two now? Yeah, he scored just a day ago. That's pretty good. Yeah, a day or two ago. That was a big story. That means he's not going to have the highest, or sorry, the lowest non-zero save percentage ever, right? He might still.

I mean save percentage, shooting percentage. He might still. Oh, yeah. Because remember it was 0.5%? Yeah. And that was a record. I'll look it up. Yeah.

Yeah, he said that he's hoping the Leafs get Boston. And I tweeted him and I said, are you nuts? And he said, because, you know, all we've heard about with Tampa, and maybe they're doing this to throw us off. Andre Vasileski coming out, he's tired. They've kind of fallen off a bit for the first time since October 13th or 18th or whatever it was. It was a googly looking number. You know, Tampa was not in first place in the division. He said this.

And I thought this was very Cyril-like. He used Chicago again. and he said the thing with Boston is that they are loaded to one line. It's the Pasternak, Bergeron, Marchand line. It's not to say that they don't have secondary scoring, but the Leafs have a far more spread out scoring punch and he said,

I wonder if it wouldn't be the same as the Chicago series last year when Kane, Panarin, Tays, and Sharp were all shut down by Nashville because they had a far more balanced attack. Now, in that particular series, you have four number one defensemen playing for one team, whereas the Leafs have two, maybe. Uh, one and a half?

And it's like his first year as a one. Yeah. Gardner's a one at this end of the ice. Yes. Not the Leafs' end of the ice. Now you're depending on Zaitsev and Polak. Right. And Hainsey.

The ghost of Ron Hainsey, by the way. He will rise again. That's how he prevents people from coming into the zone. He goes, boo. Easter just happened. He will rise. Wow. Wow, Adam.

He will. Just saying. Give him time. Give him time. I was trying to give him a nickname based on what you just said, and I just, I'm not going to allow myself. There might be several communities you offend by that. There's 10 years of Catholic school that won't allow me to make that joke.

That's good. Okay. That's good. Um, so I want to, I want to, this is, this is a headline that I actually saw from our good friends at Russia Machine Never Breaks. This is the, this might be the best line ever. If, if this weekend Columbus beats Nashville, Philadelphia beats New York and Ottawa beats Pittsburgh, then the Washington Capitals would play the Pittsburgh Penguins in the first

round. In the first round. The first line is, or the next line is, that's fine, I want it, I don't even care, do it. Uh, you're wrong. Whoever at Russian Machine wrote that, you're wrong. Like, okay, I want the Leafs to have a second crack at Boston. In the second round? Yeah, I don't care. First or second.

It's cool to have a second crack at it. A rematch, if you will. How many rounds is this? Nine? That's a good question. How many times in the Crosby-Ovechkin era have these guys faced each other? And Washington's won them all. How many times have they faced each other?

At least three. And it went very poorly for Washington all the times. All of the times, which means they win this year. Well, and that brings me to the next headline, which is the Caps have said they will decide on Barry Trotz's future after the

playoffs that's the right move his contract is up here's his record with the Capitals are you ready for this?

204 89 and 34 wowzers you can't tell me that you haven't already made up your mind

and I don't care about oh the Capitals haven't got past the second round well you know what a lot of teams don't get past the second round, guys.

So? And that's my point. I find it very, like, listen, I'm just saying this to Brian McClellan and the Washington Capitals brass, because I know they listen. I mean, the Pittsburgh Penguins listen. We know that.

Or at least their Twitter account does. Stanley Cup ring holders have listened to this show. Listen. We don't know that the Twitter account was there at the time of the Stanley Cup winning. Listen. But we can find out

Because if you're listening Maybe send out a picture Of your Stanley Cup ring Or blink twice If you got one Maybe just include something in a tweet Here's what the Caps need to watch out for I don't know, just tweet a wave

Here's what the Caps need to watch out for I think if they let Barry Trotz go They could be looking at They could be looking at what the Ducks looked at two years ago. When they had Bruce Boudreau, they had a disappointing playoff exit, they had a fantastic regular season record,

and they lost, and the musical chairs of coaching happened, and they were left on the sidelines. And who did they end up with? A guy who has arguably made them not as good. Boy, but they're in the playoffs. Sure. Not as good as they were good before.

Yes. Now, I don't want to say bad, but let's not pretend that the Anaheim Mighty Ducks, Mighty Ducks, aren't playing Randy Carlisle hockey. Boy, when Carlisle gets to a town, does he just, like, pump his goalie full of undetectable roids? Like, I don't even know, because John Gibson has been making them look amazing.

Sure has. Amazing. Now, Mike Augello, I tweeted about this, and Mike in Buffalo, Mike Augello, said to me, hey, listen, Trotz's contract's up. They have a hot coaching prospect in Todd Reardon, but here's the deal. Barry Trotz has, I think, earned the right to lose in the second round

and continue to keep his job. He's over 100 games over 500 in like three seasons, four seasons. Well, that didn't matter for Bruce when he was a Caps coach. It should matter. That should matter. When we get into the top eight, the top four in the league, that should be like, okay, we're keeping the coach. Your job is safe level.

I don't care. Like, I understand saying maybe in the playoffs if you lose in the first round and it's super disappointing, Bruce Boudreaux. Okay, fine. Fine. Because that's still just barely the top half of the league. But you get to the top eight? Are you kidding me? You're going to let a guy with that record go?

Adam, what example do you always use? The Steelers and the Patriots. They're coaches. They're there forever for a reason. Steelers have had three coaches. Well, on that note, is this another example of dumb sport? Dumb sport? Maybe dumb sport.

The Blackhawks didn't make the playoffs for the first time since, I think, the 40s. And they're talking about, I mean, they've since squashed this, but it took them a few months. They were talking about getting rid of Joel Quinville. So they've squashed that. I was going to bring that up. Like, just like this week. Because I wonder if that's when yesterday, wasn't it? Oh, was that it?

He'll be back? Yeah, he'll be back. Because the word was, he might have wanted to go because he and Stan Bowman are having issues. Rightly so. He was against the Chalmerson trade. He was against the Panarin trade. And he was right on both accounts.

And Bowman, I mean, those are two, I have to be honest with you, those are two absolutely fundamentally disastrous trades for the Blackhawks. Had they just left it alone, they'd be in the playoffs this year. Or they'd be in the race, for sure. They'd be there.

They'd be there. Even with the goaltending injuries they suffered. Yeah, that really sunk them. Honestly, if Corey Crawford stay healthy, maybe they're in the playoffs. So, but that just strengthens your point, right? They didn't need to rip this team apart. They overreacted. They overreacted.

And I don't, I think for the Caps, fine, you've got this hot coaching prospect. But here's a guy that's already proven. The whole point is you want a guy to prove he can win. Ah, but what about the shiny new thing? Right? That's unproven. You have a coach that is already winning. Why are you going with an unknown when you have a known?

Do you go with the veteran coach who's been there and— Whose winning percentage is over 600? Who's stuck in his old ways. I'm not even talking about him. I'm just—who is potentially stuck in his old ways. Oh, his old winning ways! They just won the division! Ways that can't get past the second round.

Oh, man. Oh, just like the last guy. Yeah. I mean, technically, I mean, that was sarcasm, but it's technically— It's fact. I mean, but listen. Do you want the scraggly vet who's been there? Like, let's say they're available.

Let's say a guy with the resume of Mike Babcock is available. Do you want that guy? Joel Quindle. Sure. Or do you want some brand new guy managing the talent and ego of Alexander Ovechkin? Scraggly guy. Yeah, I kind of think so. You're going to just have the AHL call-up.

Literally a coaching call-up. Mm-hmm. and hey Alex you're taking instructions from this guy now I want to bring up a name who was a hot young coaching prospect

can you hit the TV first yeah thank you Dallas Eakins was the hottest prospect coming out of the AHL in terms of coaching

now he ended up in Edmonton with a five year deal with a five year deal and didn't I think he lasted the one year was it the one year

it might have been a year and a half Wasn't long Wasn't long Now Is all of that his fault? Absolutely not That was the height of the Oilers

That was peak Oilers Having the worst Worst management He got one year And 31 games Oof So they Less than a year and a half

So they basically fed him to the Wolves Because they didn't give him a chance They didn't give him a goaltender He had some great firepower up front But it wasn't It was like Eberle and Hall And Yakupov

Before we really knew That Yakupov wasn't going to be What they thought Super young Nuge Can you look up list of Oilers coaches? Oh, sure. I just want to see, like, at what point is it not the coach's fault? I have it in front of me.

Okay, so we got, oh, my goodness, what years? Oh, my goodness. Okay, so basically, like, when do we even do this from? From the beginning of, like, the Eberle era, we'll say, which is, like, the rebuild Oilers. Start at Craig McTavish. Well, okay, we got Craig McTavish. Craig McTavish, which time?

2000, 2001, and then there was 2008 and 2009, followed by one season. Sorry, followed by 82 games of Pat Quinn. Tom Rennie lasted exactly two seasons. Ralph Kruger was there for just the 48-game lockout short in season. Eakins lasted less than a year and a half. Todd Nelson lasted 51 games. And Todd McClellan, who they're talking about firing,

164 games He's the longest Tenured coach Since Craig McTavish Well since Tom Rennie Well they're tied I think he needs One more game

He's gonna get One more game On versus the Canucks Tomorrow night Or is he I'm kidding Imagine And then

He's gonna be the longest Tenured coach Since Craig McTavish The first time If Todd McClellan Gets fired He's above Bettman 500

And if Yeah And if Trotz If Trotz gets fired If I'm McClellan I sign with McClellan in Washington and they gave me

a great team and all of a sudden I'm a great coach again. You know what's going to be funny? Because this is not Todd McClellan's fault. He's done some weird

things this year for sure. The Oilers need to add like just the teeniest little bit of talent and David's there Pooey Harvey will develop and then they'll have

a new coach in there and they'll be like this guy's a genius. If they had gotten That's the only explanation. Coyotes anti-Ranta goaltending in the second half

they would have been pushing for a playoff spot right now. And he got a big deal. What was the deal? Three years, 4.25 each year. It's got darling money. One funny thing about coaches being fired.

This is going to be the first season since the 60s that the NHL has gone a whole season without a coach being fired. That we know of. No one is surprised bad. They could do it tomorrow. Oh, yes. Oh, that'd be such a dick move.

And they'd break that record, yeah. Okay, if they... Here's one. So what if a coach is fired Sunday, but they decide to cancel that game? Was the season technically over? Yes. Season was over.

Yeah. Because as Jesse pointed out, how does the broadcaster make their money back? How do sports that make their dollar? All I'm worried about is our industry surviving. I need to know this. The concession workers aren't going to get paid that day. What about all the people in that union?

We just turn into the American choppers. I thought you were going McGregor We were going different memes Same idea though That's a great meme It's my favorite meme Easily The Spongebob standing next to the rock

Is my favorite from this week That's a very good one There's a meme About all the memes That came out this week And it was so relatable Would you put it on your So relatable post Tumblr?

I did I did It was like This week's been so difficult There's been so many different memes To come out And I was like yes It's a lot to stay on top of

I don't envy your job but here's my point is this the point is just the cartoon sorry sorry it's your thing adam my point in in in hiring a coach is this you want a coach that can win right who can give you a chance that's the point every year every year barry trotz wins and gives the caps a chance why even if his contract's up would you even consider this how could this possibly be When you get to the top eight, the second round, it's literally a crapshoot at that point. A team gets hot, one goaltender gets hot, people lose their effing jobs. That's nuts.

It's a great example of how hard it is to win in sports. It's super easy to be bad. Rebuilding's easy, I think, because you can be hidden bad for a couple years and people will still be like, ah, they're figuring it out. Canucks. but yeah if you're consistently in second round range every year that means like you're not just a playoff team you're a little bit better than that you can win around every year which means maybe we could get to the third round and maybe even win that and then if we get that far we got

a chance and if you're in 12 wins your 12 wins away if you're in that range long enough i think it drives you a little bit nuts man drives you a little bit yeah they've been there for over a decade. There's a purgatory in sports where it's like you have these elite teams that are going to be the championship teams and then you have the bottom feeders and then there's this little middle ground where you're like making the second round but you're not quite getting the

championship and it screws you. Because then you make dumb decisions like firing a great coach. St. Washington Jose Shark Blue Poodles It's called the Toronto Raptors for the last five years. Oh, yes basically. Thanks LeBron

But, you know, I guess I guess I just, I mean at least the Raptors were never really favored, right? The Capitals were definitely favored last year and the year before and they just didn't do it. Now hockey is such a team game. It is such a team game that it's hard to pin that. You can't

even pin that on the coach. You can't even pin that on one player. You can't. You cannot pin a loss on one player. Oh Adam, watch me, said hockey. Watch me! Oh you can't except everyone does. Man, the whole point of

Having a coach is to have a winning coach. That's my point. I'm going to leave it there. How the hell can you not just re-sign him? Just be like, here's the contract goal. As far as NHL executives are concerned, over the last two seasons, there's only been one winning coach,

and that's Mike Sullivan. That's how they think, man. What a dumb way to look at the world. Yeah, well, you know, hockey. If there's anything I've learned in the past 10 days, I don't know about you guys, but if there's one life lesson I've learned, it's that don't you ever bet on Jake Allen.

Don't ever bet on Jake Allen because I said the St. Louis Blues, oh, they're going to make it. Then they lose. The Hawks are going to keep them out of the playoffs. Which is beautiful. Oh, it's great for Blackhawks fans. Such a moral victory. It's like the Undertaker losing the casket match

and then dragging his opponent in there with him. That is basically what they're doing. To update your Duncan Keith stat, the worst, the lowest shooting percentage ever for a season. Non-zero. Non-zero shooting percentage in a season is 0.7 There were 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 guys at 0.7 Steve, if you want to read these names that I cannot read

Oh my god, so wait I also want to know what Duncan Heath is currently at with his second hole 0.7, so Oh my dear goodness Okay, so there's a few guys tied I'm just admiring the fact that there have been over 12,500 players who have, I guess, at least scored a goal in the NHL because they have a shooting percentage over zero.

Wow. Alexey Zhitnik was 0.7 in 2001 and 2. Still had 34 points. One goal and 33 assists. Jim Schoenfeld, also Buffalo. Harry Howell of the LA Kings in the 70s

Brad McCrimmon with Boston in the 80s wow and Larry Brown who had two two goals oh two goals

wow he must have taken a lot of shots he did 276 Larry Brown in the early 70s you know what's amazing about that list

not bad players no like none of them no all defense wait Alexey Zhidnik was a defense

yes That was a long time ago I forget And Duncan Keith's Current shooting percentage Is at The great Number

Of The great number of 1.1 Oh Wow Wow If I were him I just don't take a shot

The rest of the season Why take another shot Why wreck it Okay Shouldn't talk about The competition But Ray Ferraro Had a great story

Before the Devils game About the The green jacket With the expansion thrashers So the green jacket Basically you know how scoring in golf works The lowest score wins whatever So these guys all had

Like plus minuses That looked like they were having an amazing round At the Masters So someone on the expansion thrashers Was like minus 42 Or something like that With like 5 games to go Or something like that

And got injured so ferraro is out there in the you know like late 30s with along with a couple teammates and the guy who was minus 40 is on the massage table and they're like man you you gotta get like back out there you gotta get back in the lineup because we're gonna end up winning this thing i think it was yannick trombley who used to be on the least least defenseman he won it and uh all night at like the end of your team party or whatever they made him wear a green jacket that is so terrible That's really funny. Dude, you're the expansion thrash.

Can I bring up something about the thrashers that was the most annoying last night? Sure. So, Blake Wheeler got to 90 points. Yes. And he now set a record for becoming the fourth player in Jets history to get 90 points. Who are the other guys who have hit 90 points in Jets history? In Jets history, Jets thrashers or Jets coyotes? The other guys he's now in company with are

Dale Howard-Hausa, Ilya Kovalchuk, and Mark Savard. Healy never did? Healy never did. He hit 89. But that's... Wow.

But no. Blake Wheeler, no, isn't in company with Ilya Kovalchuk. That's not the franchise. No. So NHL, give them their damn records back. No, but not the same franchise. Coyote should give the records back to the friggin' Jets. It belongs to the city that it happened in, right?

Yeah. Here's okay. Here's what I don't understand because everyone's like no Okay, fine. Technically, you're right if you're an Arizona Coyotes fan Why do you care? Why the hell would you care about a history you had no involvement in? Why would you care and if you're a fan of another team? The question but in all caps, why would you care? It's not even involving a team that you cheer for. I don't understand. I don't know. They're called the Jets.

They play in Winnipeg. The people who watch them every night grew up or their parents grew up watching Dale Howarchuk and Dallas Eakins, by the way, and the Boolin wall Nikolai Habibulin play for the Jets every night. The who? The Jets I don't understand But Steve

Do you think What No no Timo Salani Set the record For the Arizona Coyotes With 132 points You bet

He did it He did it He set the record He did it in Arizona too Don't you forget it Yeah Well and Here's what gets me

Is that like Do you think that Calgary Flames fans Give a shit About what happened With Atlanta Can I carry over Like when the Atlanta Flames

Existed Do you think that Calgary Flames fans are like, man, we really need those Atlanta Flames records. No, they don't care. People forget that that even existed. The Thrashers and the Flames Atlanta should belong to that city. It's that city. You know why? It's because the original Winnipeg Jets

records are actually worth noting. They're actually impressive. So, mine. Like, can I take my Leafs TV accomplishments and just bring them over to Sportsnet? Did you know that I was actually on the post-game show for Sportsnet, like, live a bunch of times? I was on the Sportsnet post-game

Game show with Andy Petrillo a ton of times. Andy Petrillo and Paul Hedrick and Bob McGill on the Sportsnet postgame show. Because records carry over. Yep. They all carry over. That's so true. That's a really great way to look at it.

It's a perfect example. I just feel so accomplished, you know. Oh, so you're saying it doesn't stay in the place where it happened? Listen, Jesse, I just want to talk about my fellow Sportsnet employee, Andy Petrillo. and how great it is that we've accomplished so much here together. I'm really happy for you guys. You should.

I've edited highlights for Sportsnet as well. My three months at NHL Network carry over. That's how it works. Did you know that I have done Zoomobile commentary for Sportsnet? I did it for seven out of eight summers when I was going through university. I'm trying to think of a parallel in my career, and I cannot. I cannot. I loved when I got to feed a giraffe at the Sportsnet.

I used to pack the tampon aisle at Kiss. Wow. Isn't that crazy? That's pretty cool. That was actually the feminine hygiene aisle was my aisle at Kiss. And that was right here. Right here at Kiss 92.5. Technically.

Yeah. And I used to make pools at Kiss 92.5. Have I told you about that? My pool making and stamp concrete days at Kiss 92.5? Sportsnet has a pool? Yeah. Sportsnet Kiss 92.5. Wow.

Very cool. Very cool. I think we've made the point. A little bit. We might have. But it was good. Yeah, that horse is mulch. That horse is jam.

Give the city of Winnipeg their damn records back. So, Mussolini scored 76 goals for the Jets in Winnipeg. So, Jake Allen, how did we get here? That's what it started on. Okay, here. Well, it started with Adam being wrong. About betting on Jake Allen? About saying the St. Louis Blues are guaranteed a playoff spot.

Well, I thought they were going to make a push. I thought they were like, ah, here's a team of destiny. And then I realized, Jake Allen's their goalie. Well, hasn't Carter Hutton been a net for them? Okay, so there have been a couple goalies who have been unbelievable. They've helped carry their team into playoff contention, and I wasn't even aware that they were doing as well as they were. Carter Hutton I had in my peripheral vision.

Connor Hellebuck, who's been insane. Conor Holbrook's different because the Jets have been like just murdering it all season and he had like one of the higher save percentages. Oh, so you mean like a low key, like not unexpected and low key about it. Like Carter Hutton was near the top for a while and I was like, oh, that's cute. And then he just kind of didn't move from that position and kept going. And I'm like, is Carter Hutton good now? And then I saw that the Leafs had Keith Kincaid the other day against the Devils. And I'm like, oh, okay, well, backup treatment.

and Kincaid's never really done anything in this league so Leafs should have an easy time with him that was his 26th win Corey Schneider out of 49 in his career

Corey Schneider has really struggled this year he is not he's no longer the starter in New Jersey and it's not like Kincaid's numbers

are amazing by the way if I'm Calgary I am ringing New Jersey's phone so hard for Corey Schneider I want Corey Schneider

so bad he'll be back he'll be back yeah hey so we were talking about the Blackhawks

a little bit there, as often media outlets in hockey do. And I feel like the Blackhawks, and I mentioned this before, overreacted to their first round loss last year. You don't say. I think the next team, and put money on it, and I think fireworks are about to

blow up because of this, the next team to overreact because they were unsuccessful this season are the Calgary Flames. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good call. So let's go through some of the stuff that Brad Treliving has said. Players unable to rise to the occasion,

personnel issue, not being invested, too many people standing by, not enough leaders, and he's not even really pinning much of it on Glenn Galutzin. And Glenn Galutzin may lose his job anyway. And Eric Francis actually wrote a piece in the Calgary Sun about how...

Glenn Galutzin is moving to Seattle. Glenn Galutzin is a player-friendly coach, apparently, despite the stick-throwing. and, you know, Bob Hartley was another guy that was successful there and then unsuccessful there the next year. Like, didn't he go from Jack Adams to fired? That was another one of the bloggers going,

give it time. And then they gave it time and, oh, look, we were right. So, at this point, you have to think there's going to be some sort of major kapow. I think that, and they're talking about it. They're saying, they're coming out and saying,

we need to make some changes. Flames fans? Dougie Hamilton Why Dougie Hamilton? Let's talk What do we gotta do to make that happen? They're crazy if they let him go They're crazy

Well They're crazy This whole conversation started Because they're feeling a little crazy Which is weird because like Brad Treliving is a smart GM Very smart Who's made a bunch of smart moves Brian Berkus is president

Yeah but it's Brad's team I think I think it's Brad's team now I think you're right I don't think Brian Burke's probably going to have something to say about this he is the president

he's getting old like he doesn't want to wade into trades unless he does I don't know old habits die hard but

but he's probably going hey what the hell I mean that's sort of his job I just get the impression Dougie Hamilton's a guy they're considering and also

like you can't trade Travis Hamanick for less than what you got him for fun fact one of the I think one or two

other players with the lowest shooting percentage in the NHL is Travis Hamnick what did I say Dunkey was at 1.1 Hamnick's sitting at

0.9 so he comes he comes back and has a total revival next season and people will be like whoa where did this come from

there you go and they said that he wasn't the problem they're like he is one of the best character guys on the team it's just he hasn't

had the best points production season I wondered I wondered this because the rumor and I think this was confirmed Forgive me if it's not, but the almost true rumor we heard was that the Leafs were going to trade Van Riemsdyk to the Islanders for Hammonick on the draft floor.

Yeah, that was the package. But there may have been a player who didn't pick up their phone. Yeah, I've also heard that might have been part of it. I don't know exactly how true that is, but the Leafs were taking a hard look at Hammonick. did the Leafs, given how JVR has played, dodge a bullet this year. Hell yeah. Hell yeah. And I would have done that deal

in a second, by the way, last summer. In a heartbeat I would have done it. Yeah. Everyone needs to stop complaining that the Leafs didn't get rid of JVR. There's a reason that they're in the playoffs right now that they look like they actually have a shot at making some noise in the

playoffs right now. And you know, a lot of the people who are calling for a JVR trade are the same people who talk about the Leafs' surplus of young wingers and everything. Well, that's what's going to allow you to just have him walk.

Sometimes that happens when you're good. Oh, woe is you. You know, you're so good. You can't just... Life's not a video game. You can't just trade your entire players every year. You can't always do that.

You know, you call around and if you can somehow find a JVR comparable with term left and trade JVR for that person, but that deal doesn't exist, I don't think. And there's only 30 other teams you can do a deal with, so sometimes the deal just is not there. So the JVR deal, by the way, was from Arthur Staple, and he had reported that Toronto was going to send JVR

and a 2018 first-round pick for Hamnick. And a 2018 first-round pick? Wowzers. Yeah, no. Bullet dodged. Yeah, no. But Garth Snow went in a different direction. Garth Snow shafted his team.

No, he didn't. Snow was also trying to get Duchesne from Colorado. He got another lottery pick. Garth Snow made the right choice. Actually, yeah, what am I saying? Garth Snow got more. Toronto and the Islanders both benefited from not doing that trade. There you go.

Which is weird. That never happens, but that's kind of cool. I don't know. And then he threw his phone in the river. If you put JVR into this Islanders team. Oh, he's 40 goals for sure. Are they in the playoffs? Are they in the playoffs?

No They're even worse on defense Than they already are Like I mean Last I checked The Islanders were Seventh In goals four

And they're not gonna make The playoffs And they're gonna miss By quite a bit Yeah Yeah like it's not close Yeah it's not like One or two points

Yeah That is That should be on the bingo card Every episode Steve goes I don't get the Islanders And then Dallas says Hey Islanders

You're doing a great job Oh I want We need the KHL's Cup of Hope to come back for all the non-playoff teams but have it just be

the NHL and I want to see a Dallas Islanders series the series the defense forgot 8-7 the series the defense forgot

that would be sick Kari Lettinen but in road hockey pads and Thomas Grice wearing Glenn Healy's equipment every year there should be

a playoff series in the first round Darren Pang was the goal the guy I was looking for There should be a playoff series in the first round That goes on while the first round is happening But doesn't actually matter for anything So it's between two teams that didn't make the playoffs

But the fans get to vote on them So you could vote on the Islanders and Dallas to play And just for fun, just to see what would happen Have Arizona take on We'll call it the John Scott Cup Because it's voted on by the fans They vote for the winner of the game No, you don't vote for the winner of the game

No, they should vote for the winner of the game They should play a game No, it should be like American Idol. You text in during the game, and at the end of the game, out comes Sanjay Amalekar. Yeah. Dude, that'd be amazing. One team scores five goals, the other only scores one,

but fans voted. The other team wins. The fan vote counts for three goals. They only got enough votes to send the game to overtime. Yeah, because they only scored three goals, so then it was tied 4-4 or whatever. What if they voted on goalie interference calls, too? Text your vote in now.

I mean, you charge 20 cents a text? Oh my god, so much money. So much extra revenue. They're already at Phone-A-Friend. Yeah. In Toronto. So that's all I gotta do. Yeah, they're already at Phone-A-Friend.

We might as well. We're making it up. Let's just have fun. We should run the league. We should. We should. Just be a bonanza. Can I talk to you about what I'm looking forward to so much?

What? Having a beer tomorrow. Oh, at the thing? The live podcast. Yeah. I'm going to go on stage and have a beer. In front of people? Steve, that's very unprofessional.

You could do that any time. Beer in a while. You could have written and had a beer. No. No, no. I was too tired. I would have gone right to sleep. You could have just taken 10 minutes and had a beer at any point in your entire life.

But he didn't in the last month. No, I've had beer, but I want a beer tomorrow. Jesse do you not understand anticipation you never look forward to things like for example were you looking forward to just shitting on your friend Steven you must have been

isn't it a great feeling now that you're here doing the thing I prefer the term take a dookie oh you're just dropping the old double deuce on your friend Steven I'm looking forward to that but in beer form what is your question There wasn't a question.

I was stating that I want a beer. All right. There wasn't a question. Here's the thing. Everybody that buys you a beer tomorrow, you should have to drink it. 500 people. Let's do it. Mrs. Dangles, you're driving.

I'm kidding. That's not a thing. Let's not encourage drinking. Let's not encourage drinking. Well, it's against the broadcast laws in Canada. We're not allowed to encourage that people get really irresponsibly drunk. Can you drink on stream? You can drink on stream for sure, but you just don't want to encourage people to be irresponsibly drunk.

I started this by saying I want a beer And Jesse took it too I don't give a damn And you took it too Let's watch Steve get friggin blotto I don't know I'm just so tired

I got a new topic we gotta hit We have several to go So get ready The Sedin's tributes were amazing They really were The best one is the one that they put on themselves Yeah, really. The question is, what now?

And I don't understand this. Okay. Because you've got guys like Dolan, who you got for Burroughs. You've got Gaudette. You've got Pedersen. And you've got players that are on... Dolan, who you got for Burroughs.

Jonathan Dolan? Didn't they get him in the Burroughs trade? Oh, oh. Sorry, I was thinking about Darlene. And I'm like, beg your pardon, back up. No, Dolan. It's not Darlene. Dolan.

Right, right, right, right, right. those guys might be ready to play in the NHL next year but what a lot of people are talking about is that and Elliot Friedman brings this up

in 31 Thoughts and it's they had some serious interest and we've talked about Tyler Bozak that was reported talked about potentially JVR Michael Backlund

was a name that they were linked to or that they were said to be interested in but he's re-signed in Calgary so that's already done so a lot of people are saying

they want to fill this two or three year gap before their younger players become stars with some veteran presence and what I don't understand is why don't you just leave it and take on bad contracts like if I were Vancouver

the person I call is Pierre Dorian and I go Pierre how can I save your job today and I get your first round pick next year don't you? don't you do that? Isn't that how you do that? And you get Mark Stone too?

You call up your boss because you've been in hockey for long enough and you tell him, let me do my friggin' job or I'm leaving. And if he doesn't let you do it, quit. I want Jim Benning to have some self-respect. Because if he is this tenured hockey man, one of the 200 hockey men, shoot, I think that's a bingo thing too. Now it's in my head.

If he is one of these tenured, smart hockey guys, I gotta think that some of the last three seasons has been ownership going, do better, sign some guys. Spend our money. Yeah, he's got to know that a rebuild is the way to go. Especially, imagine if they win the draft lottery and they get Dallin.

Imagine. Plus all the other young guys they got. They'd be crazy to go out and waste money on random deals. Go out and get a few guys. Get some, a little bit of veteran presence, but don't sign five, six, seven year deals. for $70 million. What if they could get you?

Because here's the thing. It's been reported a lot of the names in the industry who know are saying, Carlson's done. I think we saw that with the puck. The puck, him grabbing the puck in his last home game,

Carlson's going to get traded. And then not going on the road trip. And not going on the road trip. Now, I understand his need to be home. They're not going to the playoffs. They've gone through a tough situation. That makes sense. I almost feel like if he wasn't up,

he would still do that anyway. I feel like that that's, you know, the kind of situation it is. But you've got Duchesne, you've got Stone, and you've got Carlson, who all after next year will be unrestricted free agents. If I am Vancouver, I'm calling and going, okay, let me help you. I want Bobby Ryan, and I want Mark Stone. And then I will take, and you can give me, I will give you nothing, but I'll take Bobby Ryan's contract, and then I take Mark Stone,

and I flip him to a playoff contender whenever that deal comes up. So, and then, and they also, I mean, they got to do something about it. Like, I think Stone, Duchesne, and Carlson are gone here. They have to be. Duchesne, I don't know. But then Vancouver stuck with Bobby Ryan until 2022. That doesn't make sense. Well, this is the thing.

I think, I was talking to someone about this today. I think something, it's a dumb sport. It's also magical. There's something about magic in hockey. And just the way the Sedins finished the season, I nailed it. I completely nailed it. They ended their season at home. Pat me on the back harder, Jesse.

They ended their season at home with a standing ovation. A 50-50 prize of 1.2 million. It was 1.2 million? Divided by two. Divided by two. You get 600 grand. Because people were in such a good mood. They're like, here's some money.

It's a little skewed because the last game of the season every year, they collect all of the unclaimed winnings and they add it to the final total of the last 50-50. So it wasn't legitimately everybody spending that. I would go to the last game of the season every year then. Still. But I was about to say, holy mackerel, how'd they get that high? Yeah.

There's something about Magic. They ended with an applause. I just feel like the Canucks built a lot of good karma over the last few days. I think they're going to win the draft lottery. And I think they're going to get Rasmus Dahlin. I do. And that's when the rebuild begins. I think that's when they tighten their head onto their neck a little bit more.

If they end up picking fifth, sixth again or whatever the hell, yeah, I guess maybe they go out and they do the same thing as usual. But if you get this franchise changer of a player, I think they go full rebuild. I believe in my heart the Vancouver Canucks are going to win the draft lottery.

I just, when Daniel Sedin scored that goal, I was like, that's it. They won. When Carlson was almost traded at the deadline,

it was brought up that Toronto was looking for a second round pick at the trade deadline to potentially be in on someone. I saw that. Is there a chance,

and this is a totally Toronto-centric question, so every other, other than a Leaf, if you're not a Leaf fan, roll your eyes. enough about the Sedins and the Canucks.

Roll your eyes. Is there a chance that Ottawa would trade Carlson to the Leafs? No. Could they ever get away with that? No. There's no way, eh? I don't think so. I don't think so either.

Unless it was a trade that made the Leafs look bad. I know, well, for sure. We've talked about the Leafs being dream makers now. Like, all these crazy things are happening that I never thought I would ever see in my life. Like, Babcock as the Leafs coach is still weird. Lou as the Leafs GM is still weird Shanahan as the Leafs president is still weird

but I don't think they're nuts and I don't think they're going to go out and spend a crazy amount on a guy like Carlson for one year so they're going to give this boatload to the Sens for one year

of a player I just can't imagine it unless they do well I mean I think if they If they got him, they'd re-sign him. Look at what Tampa gave up for McDonough. That's insane. It's a lot.

You're going to give up more than that? I don't know, man. Then who gets him? How do they trade him? That's a great question. Because who's going to give that up? Who has that to give up? I just can't imagine.

Islanders. I just can't. Oh. I think. Oh. What do they give up, though? All the firsts in the world? Yo, Montreal's got a ton of picks.

All four second rounders. It's too bad Carlson isn't French-Canadian They just go full OHL trade My first, my fourth My fourth, my third, my fourth Have everything It's a good question I just don't know how you come out

On the winning end of that trade I don't know either I think it's too much pressure on wherever he ends up But I just thought I'd bring up the question anyway You need to be It's gotta be a team in a position like Tampa is Like they bet the farm

but they were in a position where they could and they'll have McDonough next year and it's to the point where like they didn't bet the farm like they're so deep that even though they lost a lot they could afford it the Leafs don't the Leafs aren't so deep in the organization

that they can afford to give up what Tampa did they're not no you're absolutely right there's some depth but they're not that deep I wonder if McDonough's or the McDonough trade could be comparable to what the Carlson trade will look like because they're getting McDonough

for two playoff runs rather than one. Whereas if you could make the argument for Carlson that the fact that they didn't get him for a playoff run this year, maybe it's the same deal that Tampa got. Maybe it's the exact same pieces. It's two runs and two players because you got JT Miller in there.

I wonder if Ottawa just gets whatever that Tampa deal looks like something similar to that rather than more than because quite honestly if you're just getting him for 82 games on a bad ankle and you know and the playoffs it's less than two runs

they get two shots with McDonough one thing I've been called out on recently is just every year I go this is this year is going to be nuts but I mean this year is going to be nuts It is. That's a huge, this summer I should say, that's a huge shift in the NHL, wherever Eric Carlson goes.

It's going to be enormous. But, sorry, I will try to satisfy Canucks fans. Because we sort of pulled the chute on this. I don't know what else there is to say. It was just a great moment and they deserved it. I thought it was super weird that they had a two-game goodbye party. like and it wasn't the whole season or like at least a month or something like that i guess but it was they don't seem like the side that would want that exactly it was beautifully henrik and

daniel just very subtle in the background not loud not noisy you know what was annoying what derrick jeter the year he retired before the season and every single team he played they trotted him out there at the beginning of the series and they gave him a present. And that was annoying because he had to see that all summer long. Who was the first team? I'm glad we didn't get that with the city. Absolutely. Who was the first team to give him a present?

The first team they played that year. Well, they screwed it up for everyone. Why? I remember the Jays had to do that. Because then everyone has to give him a present. The Jays gave him a chair made of hockey, a rocking chair made of hockey sticks. I remember that because I thought it was so dumb. That is pretty dumb. Derek Jeter did not, he does not have

that chair right now. No. That's not his thing. He gave it away. No. He might have even thrown it out. It's probably still at the Rogers Center. Well, yeah, he never brought it on the airplane, that's for sure. John Gibbons does, like, his post-game press conference.

Well, you know, we got... And it's Jeter's chair. Yeah, it's just Jeter's hockey stick rocking chair. Anyways. So I'm happy that the Seans did it in their Sadeen way. Is that for real they did that? I'm embarrassed. Yeah, it was like they gave him, like, a cottage or something,

and it was a bunch of bones. Oh, that's embarrassing. Every team did something corny. Also, so sorry, Roberto Luongo, 1,000th NHL game, no one cared. Right? No one cared because it happened the same night as the Sedin game, you could call it.

1,000 games for goalies, no laughing matter. No. That's a lot of games. That's incredible. He was drafted, I want to say, 97. And all of those could have been for the Islanders, who still have a goaltending problem. Could have been the Leafs.

Could have been the effing Leafs. Him and Chara. And Spezza could all be on the Islanders right now. Yeah, well, too bad. But Mike Milbury. Student of the game, Mike Milbury. Oh, well, Adam, I mean, we haven't quite seen peak Oleg Kovaca yet. Or Mark Parrish.

No, they might really pan out. They might. You never know. The Oilers defense, in case you didn't know, cannot score. This was making the rounds on Twitter. I believe it comes from 301 Thoughts as well. Oh, I saw this. Entering Wednesday's game, Edmonton had 127 points from their defensemen.

That is 27th in the NHL. Nashville is best at 195, as you would expect. You'd expect Nashville to be number one in that category. That is something the Oilers will address this offseason. It is a priority. So the way to address that is you trade Oscar Kleffbaum, obviously. Oh, well. Right?

That's a great point, Adam. And we've identified that we are lacking that thing that everyone wants. So this summer we're gonna go out and get that what where free agency well I'd have fun if people instantly bent back and I can't their people's memories are long The Jeff Petrie trade to Montreal when they got a second and a fifth do Jeff Schultz or Justin Justin Schultz. Yes Failure Justin Schultz quote-unquote failure Justin Schultz funny we make fun of certain GM's for Not doing anything But, like, that would have been just what the doctor ordered

for the Oilers over the past few years. I think Petrie has, like, 40 points this year. Yeah. He's been a rare bright spot on the Habs. That puts them mid-pack in NHL defensive scoring. Just that one guy. Get a guy who can pass the puck. Get a guy who can make, like, a good first pass,

and you're the Oilers, man. You're fine. You're fine. By the way, I didn't tweet about this. Did you see maybe the worst penalty call I've ever seen against Jesse Puglia-Yarvey the other night? No, I didn't. He got a penalty.

The video on Reddit was titled, Puglia-Yarvey gets a penalty for being near someone. And that's actually what it was. What happened? Someone fell down, and Puglia-Yarvey got sent to the box for it. Wow. His stick wasn't anywhere near the guy. Wasn't anywhere near the guy.

It was a terrible call. And Paul Uribe's just sitting in the box like, all right, fine. It's just a microcosm of my season. I don't even care. You can't hurt my feelings anymore. They're not going to put me on a David's wing anyway. Yeah, shut up.

Don't care stripes. Jesse, are you looking up the rocking chair story? I have a giant list of gifts Derek Jeter received. All right, let's go through them. Let's go through them. Oh, that's terrible. What are those? So the Houston Astros.

Steve, don't blow it. Don't blow it. Don't blow it. The Houston Astros. Don't look, Steve. Don't look. gave Derek Jeter golf clubs

and cowboy boots? Yankee cowboy boots. Yankee cowboy... The Los Angeles Angels. What do you think they gave him? Like, he couldn't get that stuff.

What do you think... Hey, New York Yankees, can I get some cowboy boots? That's all he would've had to do. I think he would just snap his fingers and, like,

someone would know. Yeah. Jesse? Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim. What do you think they got Derek Jeter? Angels in the outfield

on DVD. A Ducks jersey. A paddle board. A giant Yankees paddle board. If you want to take a look. Yo, that's a huge paddle board. That's a 12-foot paddle board right there. It's like a novelty paddle board.

Yeah, that's enormous. It's like the clown car of paddle boards. It's huge. I've used a paddle board. Do you think there's something comical about the size of my paddle board? Unless Mike Trout and Derek Jeter are very small on that picture. I mean, maybe. Unless they're tiny?

I don't know. Anyways. The local Little League team came out and presented. Holy crap. Some of those, some of these are just normal, like a goal-plated bat. That's nice. You can hang that up. That's something you can hang that.

Yeah. Derek Jeter might keep that. The Mets got him a cake? Like, that's reasonable. You get somebody a cake? That's the best the Mets could do. Here's $20. Here's a gift card to Farm Boy.

If you were Derek Jeter, would you eat a cake that the Mets got you? No. Hell no. There's a lot of boogers in that. Yeah, boogers and laxatives. I'm actually surprised that's all the Mets got them. Yeah. That's really cheap.

They also made them this tile thingy. I don't know what it's made of. Oh, it's like Mets. It's in Mets colors. What? Oh, at the top it's Mets colors and the bottom it's Yanks colors. It's a subway tile mosaic. So I think it might be made of like the subway.

Like pieces of the subway series. Subway series, that was one of the best lead up to a World Series that ended up just being a total sweep, but it was so much fun. All right, that's kind of cool. Yeah, that's cool. That's kind of cool. I'll give it to them. the Cubs got him

a piece of the outfield scoreboard from Wrigley Field oh that's cool that's cool there you go good job the chair story

is from the White Sox oh thank god not the Blue Jays the Blue Jays one I'll bring up it's also interesting but I I got the ones wrong

so the White Sox got him this this bench made of made of bases and bats that's better than hockey stick chair

but I don't think it's still in Chicago and not sittable that is still in Chicago so they got him that if I would have wanted a gold plate gold plated pizza

from Chicago they gave that to Barack Obama noted White Sox fan Seattle just donated to his charity and got him a bass from the field

that's great fantastic there you go the Minnesota Twins also just gave him a bass from the field and donated to his charity the Cleveland Indians though

they gave him what Derek Jeter needs an electric guitar oh cause they're the rock and roll we sit in rock and roll hall of fame yeah

at least it's custom made yo it's a Gibson Les Paul That's all right. He's going to play it, though. Can we just talk about how— He can hang it on his wall. He can hang it on his wall. Come on, we gave him that.

I'm aiding. I'm aiding. Can we talk about how George Costanza used to work for the Yankees and the Mariners did what George Costanza did? Oh, I've made a charitable donation in your name. That's exactly what they did. So the Toronto Blue Jays, they gifted Derek Jeter with a three-night luxury trip to Banff.

You're joking. It's complete with a helicopter tour of the Rocky Mountains and Jeter's choice of golf or ski lessons. They couldn't get them both? No, one or the other. That is such a contra. You can either go in the suburbs or you can go in the winter. That's a contra deal.

That's a we didn't pay for this, we gave away free advertising. Yeah, there's no way. Not even, there's no way. Okay, the Astros one is crap, but it's at least hokey and like Like Banff is three and a half hours flight away That's the flight is the flight included matters to him, but I don't know that better be a first-class flight Derek Jeter is rich enough to take like a b-52 bomber to Banff in about 20 minutes. Are you proud of your team? No, I'm very ashamed of the Blue Jays

right now. Am I surprised by that move? No. That's easily the worst one that you read. We can do two more. On top of the giant novelty paddleboard. I think given the time that was for the Blue Jays,

I don't think that would happen today. Are you saying the management's a little better? I think that the people who are in PR today, and I'm not kidding on this one, I think they're better. I think they're much, much Much better

You could have given him Leaf season seats It would have been more valuable Could have given him Jay season seats Could have given him Could have given him The Florida Marlins

He got that anyway Yeah What did they give him? Ooh let me see What's on this list Whatever he wanted I guess Man Bamf

Sorry I gotta look through it The Rays Which is great I guess For a normal person Yeah but not Derek Jeter Derek Jeter Has signed a 189 million dollar contract

Plus all the endorsements He ever did Come on Hey honey Yes They're not on there Which baseball player The Marlins probably

Got him nothing They didn't play The Marlins that year Cause you gotta remember That's the NL Right So you don't play Every team

Yeah well the Marlins Probably wouldn't have Got him anything Again Jeffrey Lurie The Tampa Bay Rays Got him a kayak It's also novelty size Why is that Tampa

Really Tampa Yeah Who No one's swimming in fresh water in Florida. Ever. Ever, ever. Like, they all just put their heads together. All the baseball

teams had, like, a group text going, okay, things that we know he likes. Floating. Boots. Alberta. What were you going to say, Adam? Well, there's a couple things that Derek Jeter likes,

which are dating supermodels And doing outdoor sports That's what he's He's always with a super mom Or was at least Always with a super mom Yeah they should give him Something he needs

Like signed baseballs And gift baskets Wasn't that the thing with him? He used to give that To the people he hooked up with Apparently Supposedly And that is the story

He must be running out The real gift for him Would have been Leonardo DiCaprio's black book That would have been What's that? Leonardo DiCaprio's Phone numbers

Oh Like a little black book You keep all the girls Phone numbers in You've never heard that term? No. Wow, Jesse's younger than you. You've never heard that term?

Yeah, that's an old term. Like black book? I just turned 30. Don't look at me like, oh. And yet we know it. I know, but I've heard of it, Steve. Oh, Jesse, that's a great one. Let me take the pencil out from behind my ear and jot it down in my black book.

I'm just saying, I mean. Final one. The Baltimore Orioles got him a bucket of Maryland crabs. Okay, Chase, you're off the hook. They got him a bucket of crabs They got him a bucket of crabs. Hey, if he wasn't careful might not have been the first time Oh Adam Wilde and not Steve Dangle or Jesse Blake Obnoxious drinking how could you add a night?

Bob McKenzie says that Buffalo will be making some trades this summer and by making some trades by making some trades he means that there are going to be

players that ask to be traded that are that I guess he knows that there are people asking for a way out and there are guys that Buffalo

is like you're out of here get the hell out of town this season Buffalo has clinched their third last place finish in the last five years

and yet in the last four Or Vancouver's still the worst team. Which is unbelievable. How is that possible? I don't know. I mean, Buffalo. The third last in five years.

Buffalo must have charged up the Sandings one year to finish 22nd or something like that. They're just legendarily bad. And then the idea that they're going to be getting rid of more players. Like, at what point do you ice an NHL team? Like, they're so bad. They keep trading them away. And they beat the Leafs sometimes. And that's why, again, I'm calling Montreal and going, how much do you want for Ryan O'Reilly?

Or how much can you give me for Ryan O'Reilly? Because the Montreal's... I don't think Tavares is going to Montreal. I know everybody's making that thing. I think, quite honestly, most likely he ends up back in the island. But if they lose out on him, Ryan O'Reilly, man.

Ryan O'Reilly. Before the draft. But when does Buffalo start building a team and stop just tearing everything apart? That is a very decent question. When do they... Like, rebuild is a seven-letter word, and they forgot the final five.

I think there's no build. Did I count that right? I did. I don't even know what their farm team looks like. Me neither, to be honest. Yeah. Yeah, Leonard, I got to imagine, is the get the hell out of here guy because there's been rumors about that for like two years now.

And then you will play goalie because who else is there left? Why not? Why not? I hear Antony is looking for a job. I don't know, man. What do you do? What do you even do there? Do you honestly

To me I just You just Stop picking at it Just stop picking at it Trade Ryan O'Reilly Trade some of the bigger salaries on that team Because there are some salaries on that team That just don't need to be there

But Beyond that Draft well And let them grow together That's the only way you're going to get out of this That's the only way you're going to get out of this The Kings The Penguins

The Blackhawks The Bruins They draft well And they let them develop Together The Red Wings long ago, not necessarily now, but once upon a time. I think there's something to be said for developing together. I agree.

It makes you better players. Well, if you look at the reaction when Andreas Janssen scored his first goal, and it was, who was on the ice? It was Kapanen, Nylander, Dermott, Hyman, and Hyman. And Carrick. And Carrick. All guys. We might have got one wrong.

One wrong. But it was all guys that he were, Nylander, because I don't think Matthews was playing. Nylander was the center. And then it was Hyman. Hyman was definitely there. Carrick was definitely there. Dermott was definitely there.

It was everyone... Everyone he played with. Yeah. And that was so cool. What a great moment that all five of those guys had played on the Marlies together at one point or another, and they were all that jacked for each other. Another benefit of having the team in the city as well,

having the Marlies in the city. And, like, if, you know, if... I was thinking of the commercial. Taking the bus up You want to take a cab ride To the Air Canada Centre Yeah that one Or a bus to Peoria

Seen that a million times Boy I'm really glad they don't do that anymore There were a couple things Burke tried and I admire The effort but boy no Where was I going with that Oh yeah like if you look at the Leafs Like social media like they're friends

They're friends and like it's never really mattered who was called up and on the team and who wasn't. Like, they still all talk. Like, Dermott and, like, Andrew Nielsen, I think, are, like, still really good friends. And Garrett Sparks seems to be a bit of a social butterfly despite, like, I don't know, what was he with the Leafs two games? Something like that as the backup.

Sorry? One of them was a shout-out. Oh, you mean, like, oh, you mean this season? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. Well, I think they're probably training close to the same spots. I mean, they're just a couple blocks away from each other.

They're the exact same spots, you know, and it helps that they're good. It helps that they're good, but a team that is developed together, I think just has a much better chance of succeeding. And Buffalo, like, the one thing I've always gotten out of watching the Sabres and, like, paying attention to the Sabres is they always just seem sad and mad and don't want, they don't look like they like playing hockey. When Jack Eichel scored against the Leafs a couple games ago, not the last one

but I know he scored he had like a fuck yeah moment right he likes scoring against the Leafs he does

and it was kind of like it was almost like he was letting the season out and it was kind of like okay I get this they bring it up for the Leafs for sure

there is a hockey team there but there's something I mean if you're if you're beating the Leafs they they outplayed them that night straight up if

if you if you could get that effort every night And I wonder what's holding them back from that. Talent. Look at the roster that they ice every night. Like, Jack Eichel is the beating heart of that team. Sure.

The talent, the attitude, the everything. Build around him. Let them marinate. Let them all become friends. And watch your success. I think that's what they have to do. That and trade Robin Leonard. Now, we've talked a lot about the Leafs' defense recently.

And I've been a big proponent of John Carlson. recently. Well, a lot. But what to do about it once the season ends. And I know we're getting a little ahead of ourselves because the playoffs start next week, and it's a little bit weird. Like, it's almost like there's this calm before the storm. Everybody's kind of just quietly ignoring the fact that the playoffs start next

week and how freaking exciting that is, but we're all kind of like, well, you know. It's hard to visualize, because isn't there at the time we're recording this anyway, there's only one confirmed series, I'm pretty sure. Winnipeg, Minnesota. That's the only one. That'll be a fun series, by the way. Oh yeah

Coldest city in Canada Versus the coldest city In the United States How far of a drive is that? I don't think it's far I don't think it's far at all I mean if you're from Winnipeg You're used to driving

Like six hours at a time Anyway Yeah So you're probably fine with it Jesse what were you gonna say? I thought you were gonna say something No? What were we talking about?

Every time I go I was just going to the I was getting into the Leafs defense here I've never had a thought in my life I don't know what you're talking about It was about the playoffs Doesn't feel like the playoffs Anyway it doesn't matter

If it comes back to you, bring it up I don't think I had a thought, Steve I think that's a bingo He doesn't think Is that a bingo one too? Yeah, one of the bingo things is I think it's asking Jesse We've talked a lot about the Leafs defense

And Drag Leg Pull had a really good take Today He had a really good take He said my solution To the Leafs defense Is play Gardner and Riley together and then go find yourself a second-pairing defenseman. Okay.

Good. And now James Myrtle responded with an article he wrote in December. And it goes into some of the numbers of Gardner and Riley together, and it's weird. They're really good. That's fine. Can I? Listen, I know this isn't the most fun thing to say,

especially when it comes to, like, hockey talk, but I don't care. You don't? Not right now I don't. I care. The playoffs start one game from now. There's nothing to talk about until that game's finished. Why not talk about...

I mean, we have talked about the Tampa matchup versus the Boston matchup at Nauseam, but, like, I don't know. It just feels like a waste of time to talk about that. Does it? Yes, it does. Hey, you know what the Leafs should do next year? Well, how about this year?

I'm just throwing this out there. How about we're almost at the most exciting part of this year? Listen. And I don't care. I get it. I totally get it. But let me just quickly put this out here, even though you don't care.

Go ahead. If Zaitsev regains 90% of his game from last year, because he's playing about 50% right now. Yeah. And you've got Dermot, and Calvin DeHaan is available. Yeah, I'm into it. But Steve.

I'm totally into it. What about next Thursday? All right, all right. At least we might be playing. All right, fine. That'd be cool. All right, if you guys want to, if this interests you more.

Hey, don't you guys this. Like, hey, Steve, what do you think about this? The Leafs defense, but they add a good player. Listen. Hey, I'm all for that. I'm just trying to bring up talking points here, okay? I get it. So the next thing, so you don't care.

The next thing is, I'm quoting Jesse from our private message conversation on this next topic. We're moving on. You're not quoting me. Quoting you. Are you quoting me? You said you are all in. I won't quote how you are. Don't quote that.

You are all in. I won't quote directly how you said it. Jesse is all in for Taylor Hall for heart All in Yeah, so I listened back to last episode And Taylor Hall wasn't one of my three I was wrong I picked him, right?

Did I pick him? You did, I'm pretty sure I don't know where you ranked him It was like Hall, McDavid, and then somebody else No, I don't think you had McDavid Or maybe you did Doesn't matter You had Hall, I did not

And I was wrong Taylor Hall should probably win the Hart Trophy To be fair, you said, well, this will change tomorrow Yes And it did, it literally did The next day I was like, Taylor Hall Wasn't one of my three No, I looked at like every argument

Adam, you made for McDavid I was thinking It applies to Taylor Hall Except his team is good Well, okay Can you go to the league's Leading scores, because What I didn't understand about the whole McDavid argument

Is people are talking about him Like he's head and shoulders above Everybody else, which is... It's 7 points up on Claude Giroux. Come on. He's 7 points up. That's it. And Taylor Hall's missed a few

games, and he's at 93 points. In 76 games, Taylor Hall is at 93. So that puts him on, like, probably on, like, pretty close to Giroux-Kucherov territory if he's healthy. Yeah, and the one thing we kept looking at were

the team comparisons. We kept looking at, A, Malkin has Crosby, and McDavid is so far ahead of Dreisaitl, but then we looked at it, it wasn't actually that far. And then somebody posted Taylor Hall's numbers and how ahead he is on New Jersey. If I could pull them up here. New Jersey stats.

Someone talk while I pull this up. Well, what I remember is just, so they made the Henrik for Vatanen trade. And I remember being like, oh, okay, Vatanen's a guy they could use. But, boy, up front, who else do they got? And the answer was Taylor Hall and Taylor Hall. So it goes Taylor Hall at 93 points. Then Mr. Nico has 51 points.

Nico Heischer. He's not had a bad season for a guy that wasn't supposed to have a great season. Well, and you talk about winning the draft lottery, completely changing your fortunes. Like, he wasn't supposed to be this good, was he, right away? Not 51 points. Who the hell is Will Butcher? He was the guy, the Leafs actually made a, he was signed out of the NCAA.

He won the Hobie Baker, didn't he? He was, I want to say, a draft pick of the Avalanche who didn't want to sign there. And the Devils and Avalanche basically swapped NCAA prospects. I don't remember who the guy is in, oh, Clayton Kerfoot, I think, in Colorado. They both had actually really good seasons, I think. But coming into this year, if I told you Will Butcher will be the third leading scorer on a playoff team. Fourth. No, technically tied for third.

Oh, yeah. No, you're right. That's my fault. Would you say, Jesse, you're crazy? Was Toronto, hold on. Before I answer that, was Toronto not in on Will Butcher and he didn't want to come because they couldn't guarantee him a spot? Oh, I don't know. That was the thing.

He wanted to be on an NHL team. That was his thing. So, Jesse, to your point. No. There's no way I could have predicted it. There's absolutely no way. I'm sorry. Can I just read the list of players with 30 or more points on the Devils?

Taylor Hall, 93. Nico Heischer, 51. Kyle Palmieri and Will Butcher, 44. Jesper Bratt, 35. Miles Wood, 30. So I look at those. Yeah, Taylor Hall wins the heart. I look at those just baseline stats,

And you see how far and ahead Taylor Hall is on a team that wasn't supposed to be this good. And he dragged them to the playoffs with his other fast, young, talented guys. And I think he deserves to win the Hart Trophy. He's the most valuable player in the sense of the word. That's my argument. If you really want to get nerdy about it, Manny Elk had a tweet where, you know, hockey's kind of been playing with wins above replacement, war stats. Best baseball stat to ever exist.

Connor McDavid is so far ahead of everybody else. His is 7.16 wins above replacement. The next guy is William Carlson, which I'm already looking at the stat like, are you sure? But he's second with 5.59. McDavid was 7.16. He's 5.59.

Followed by Kucherov, 5.3. Taylor Hall is ninth, actually. At 3.95. So, hockey war is a little skewed. I don't understand how it works, so I'm not going to try to explain it. Yeah, because a regular good player should be above a replacement level player. It doesn't sound like there's many players that are that far ahead of a replacement level player. Because that's the amount of wins you're adding over an average level player.

Out of a zero player, McDavid adds, what is it, 7.1 wins to his team. but that doesn't but then you're penalizing him for being on a bad team no no no because it's not

for your team it's for just a player who was inserted into the lineup but that doesn't sound like there's enough guys

who are above replacement level so like on the Oilers no just in general because I could have told you that because at nine

you get to three wins above replacement when the top players in the league should all be above like five replacement wins like Crosby

is definitely like adding At least a whole bunch of wins to his team So I don't know the stat sounds funny to me Brock Besser Brock Besser is 12th with 3.57 So McDavid Is more than

Twice the 12th place guy Which doesn't really Yeah I don't really understand it to be Totally honest you know who's a guy Who is also on this list and Should not Be nominated for the heart but He deserves major props anyway

Eric Stahl scored 40 goals and he's 7th on this list actually 4.14 he's had an incredible season who told him who threw out

Eric Stahl's calendar he has no idea what year it is 41 34 yeah he's no he's had an absolutely

unbelievable season who threw out his calendar and well and similarly to Taylor Hall did the Wild make it without Eric Stahl

I mean there's not a ton of teams I mean they have Parise and Suter And isn't Suter Didn't Suter get injured? I don't remember I think Suter's injured

I don't remember He might miss the playoffs I think I'm fading We got a live show tomorrow So are you telling me to wrap it up? Yeah a little bit Wow first you tell me You're not interested in the topic

I bring up Which I think is very interesting And then Adam the playoffs started on Wednesday Yeah How could we consider anything else? Even though that's all We've been talking about

Leading up to this But fine But fine And now you're telling me To wrap it up? I'm just so sick of talking About the Leafs next year Can I do something instead of the press conference?

Are you John Tavares conversationalist? Yes. Are you really tired of it? Yeah. Okay. Okay. I'm just over here doing my goddamn job. John Tavares, there's a little bit more meat on the bone.

It's a little sexier to talk about John Tavares coming to the Leafs instead of, like, I don't know, how about we add, like, this second-slash-third-parent guy? All right. I was just following up on a conversation. Sorry, I left it. Apparently, because Adam's done bringing up topics because Steve hates them all. He's a hater.

Let's be in a fight tomorrow. And Steve doesn't want to talk hockey. And then we'll get drunk too, and then we'll actually fight. I'll throw a dolly at your bus. So if you guys will let me, I'd like to end all hockey talk until the next episode. Great. Sure. Are we going to the press conference?

I guess so. Yeah, yeah, we got to do that. He said this is the press conference replacement. Give it a second. Oh, okay. The Presser SDP. I think that's enough time for the press conference. The Steve Dangle Press Conference.

Sounded good. Oh, yeah. Sounds great. So, I have a list of the 100 best minor league baseball player names of this season. Oh, this would be great. Shoot, just when I thought I was going to go home on time. I scanned through this list, and it might be the greatest list of names that have ever existed. Okay.

So let's let's just roll man baseball's got some names man Chuck Knobloch Come on stubby clap Canadian baseball player Billy Koch I'm gonna start at random number like 62. Oh, that's not where I thought you were going Random number 69 Sex number We got J.D. Hammer And associates That should be his team

He's a lawyer For sure He's a personal injury lawyer For sure He plays class A advanced In Clearwater, Florida He's a right handed pitcher For the Phillies

J.D. Hammer is Saul Goodman's nemesis J.D. Hammer Always stealing my business J.D. Hammer got me the money I deserved when the insurance company says no.

JD drops the hammer. At 51 on the list, Blinger Perez. Whoa! Blinger? Blinger Perez. Blinger Perez. His name was Blinger

before the word bling was even cool. It was. Wow. That's cool. He's a first baseman in the Prodigy system playing in the Arizona Fall League

for the Rookie League Padres. That's too bad because even if he makes the MLB, he's still got to play for the Padres, which, that sucks.

but he gets to live if he makes it he gets to live in San Diego which is sweet on top of having a great baseball name he's also got a built in

hockey nickname if he decides to change career plans dude Blinger oh yeah you know I saw Blinger was wide open there

on the wing and I just gave it to him yeah well we have another good old hockey name Matty Marty number 47 Caden Lemons

Caden Lemons is a Canadian baseball player I've never been so sure of anything in my life Caden Lemons thinks Brooklyn Barbecue is taking over the world. He's a right-handed pitcher in the Brewers system, plays in the Arizona Fall League. Caden Lemons definitely watches documentaries on Netflix.

Oh, you're Caden Lemons? Not history documentaries like the meat ones. You know, the farming ones where the cows are tortured. Number 41 on the list is just unfortunate because his parents should have thought of this. The guy's name is Blake Drake. I think they did why I'm firing my parents

he's telling it like it is it's Blake Strick that's so bad number 37 let's move on this is a right handed pitcher that was very meta plays for Midland

in AA athletic system Oakland would be a nice place to live if it gets called up eventually his name is Dustin Hurlbutt He's gotta be a pitcher Yeah, he is a right-handed pitcher

Amazing Hurlbutt On the mound Dustin Hurlbutt What do you do when you're late for the school bus? You Hurlbutt What? Like haul an ass

Oh, I know But it's Hurlbutt I get it I played a hockey with a Ben Hurlbutt He was a good goalie I'm gonna run through a couple of these in the 20s quickly

28 Xavier Javier Javier which is just your parents your parents in the Netherlands Xavier Javier

honey honey it's okay he's gonna play minor league baseball trust me Tiger's right hand pitcher

GCL rookie league plays there I thought that was I thought his last name was GCL Rookie League. I was like, wow. Coming in at 39, we have GCL Rookie League. I don't know what to do with this last name.

Number 23, Yeferson Yanuzi. It can't be Jefferson? Nope, he's correct. How do you know it's a soft J? It's spelled with a Y. Y-E-F-F-E-R-S-S-O-N Yannuzzi, which I think is Italian. Yeah, 100%.

Which begs the question, Jefferson? What nationality is that? Jefferson. Banff. Specifically Banff. Like Thomas Jefferson? I wonder if there's a connection.

No. That is, okay, what nationality is that? That's the country of getting your wisdom teeth removed before naming your child. That's what nationality is. Number 21, Steele Russell. That's good. S-T-E-E-L. I would like it in reverse though.

I want to be Russell Steele. Because then you can be many things. You can be a baseball guy. You can be a porn star. You can be many things. There's many things you can be with Russell Steele. You can be an injury lawyer For sure

It'd be great if he was just You know Kind of a Injury lawyer For sure an injury lawyer It's just Russell Don't get caught in the steel trap

You know what I'm saying Insurance companies I think I think this guy Could be the best Injury lawyer of ever Alright Alright

Cardinals Second baseman Plays for Johnson City In the rookie league JD murders Imagine Imagine

I want to know I don't know what JD stands for now. Me too! He hits a big home run on the front page the next day. Murder in the first degree. What? Or was he a first round pick? Murder in the first round.

JD stands for like... Jefferson... Dippers. Except with a J. John Denver. No. No, it's spelled with a Y because Baybaugh. All right, all right. I am gonna get in trouble with this next one. Oh boy

Yes, do you need help? Would you like to phone a friend? No, Jesse own obi Number 18 his first name is obi obi e he's a Rangers third baseman Please it's please obi tries. Please be obi tries in the AZL range. This is his real name. No gimmicks Wow Because you know when two Trailer Park girls go around me outside. Oh, God, why do you got to suggest this? I was there.

Sometimes somebody makes a joke. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And you let the joke happen. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And you don't start talking about who's going to play third line D for the Leafs when the playoffs are next week. You're right. Yeah. It was out of place.

I mean, you're right. But still. Anyway. I just thought it would be interesting. Obi's last name is... Rycumstrict. how do you spell that r-i-c-u-m-s-t-r-i-c-t yeah no he got it that's how you say that i think

rickham strict that's how i'd want to pronounce not rickham strict rickham strict uh steve oh yeah sorry i was trying to read rickham strict Number 16. The Rickomstrictor. Because he strangles you. There you go. Franklin is at number 16. He is Franklin Van Gerp.

Which is all right. That's Franklin Van Gerp. You said that like how it sounds. Like it sounded like you burped there, and that's sort of how that name kind of comes out. Number 15. Locke St. John. Locke St. John is, he should be,

that should have been the name of the goalie Justin Timberlake played in The Love Guru. Or maybe a character on Miami Vice. Lock St. John Locking it down Lock St. John His dad owns a boat Yes

Oh my god Like a nice yacht He's definitely got Some Perry Ellis shirts For sure Some white All white boat shoes Ooh

All white boat shoes Yeah Damn And he wears a polo My name's Lock St. John My hair Rustles in the wind He's got a timeshare

He's got a timeshare That's a tax write off If he wasn't doing this He'd be working In investment banking See Now this is also just Poor on the parents

number 13 Rockies outfielder plays in the DSL Rockies plays for the DSL Rockies in the Rookie League his first name is

Walking his name is Walking Cabrera well he's perfect for baseball his own base percentage must be insane

they should have called him Grand Slamming that Walking Cabrera always getting on this Billy Bean's

favorite player he's a lot more successful than his brother Strikeout looking comparison. You should be embarrassed. I'm not.

That's a bingo one. That's a bingo space. Number 12, Preston Grand Prix. Preston Grand Prix is a lesser known character in The Legend of Ricky Bobby. That's true.

Yeah. He's a shortstop in the Dodgers system. His last name is Grand Prix. There's a picture of him, actually. Right, like somewhere along the line His family changed their name to that

That's not a real Oh, it's not P-R-I-X, it's P-R-E Grand Prix No, Grand Prix is It's Grand Prix It's Grand Prix, that's French No, it's Grand Prix Yeah, but, okay, where does he play?

Plays in the Dodgers system AZL, uh AZL, Dodgers, Rookie League He could be like Arizona League, Dodgers I think that's Like how, like what number of cars movie are we on? Like, he could be a new character in Cars.

Disney's Cars. Chester, was it Chester or Lester? Lester Grand Prix. Mr., it's Preston. Preston Grand Prix. And he drives with, like, they're all talking cars, but, like, he's got an ascot somehow. Now, this next fella, he's in the Blue Jays minor league system. He's at Lansing.

Class A. Vladimir Guerrero Jr. No, he's in New Hampshire now. He's double A My bad Fisher cats baby Check out the big brain On wild

Sorry You know why I know Cause I always sign up To be a pitcher Mike Wilmer over here When I buy When I buy MLB games

I always sign up To be a pitcher And I make my way Up to the Blue Jays It's always New Hampshire Yeah That's great Yeah

You know where you MLB the show That was Mike Wilmer Road to the show That mode is unbelievable It's the best I agree with you It's so great

I like it better Than the one for NHL Actually It's way better than the one for the NHL. There's like, there's more to it. There's just more layers.

Just a little bit higher. Anyways, this young fella, Maverick Buffo, is a right-handed pitcher for the Blue Jays system. B-U-F-F-O? B-U-F-F-O.

Imagine when he makes it to AAA. Buffo on the Buffalo Bisons. Oh. I didn't even think of that. Very good. Is he a pitcher?

He is a pitcher. So if he ever stops, if he ever shuts anybody out, They're buffoiled. Buffoiled. He's got the buff stuff. Hey, if he's really good at playing second base and tagging guys out on the base, he'd be Buff Bagwell.

Because the bag, the wrestler Buff Bagwell. Some will get it. I thought that was going to be... I was so disappointed. Are you not? What the hell just happened? I don't know, man. I don't...

Should we... I'm not showing up tomorrow. We should buff a go. We should change the name of the show. We should buff a go. That's what I'm saying. Oh. All right, we got a couple more.

I'm going to ignore that. Only a few more. Like Cannon Chadwick. Who could play in the WHL. Yep. With that name. Yeah. Number seven.

Fifth round pick. Santo Falcon. Jesus That's a cool name I like that name Yeah it's not bad Sancho's a good name Sancho's a good first name

Cash Case Which I'm expecting to see Carmella cash in at Wrestlemania Oh my god This weekend Is Red's second baseman in the Arizona

Cash Case So literally he's named after the thing the bad guys carry around Yeah that was What are his parents thinking? Virgil's original nickname

It was cash case. And Ted DiBiase shot it down. No, you're Virgil. Wesley, again, you don't say. Number five would have had a great name regardless because his last name is Glorious. No. He is Austin Glorious.

Wow, you can just put anything behind that. Yeah, it plays for Salem in the Class A. I honestly wonder with like Grand Prix or Glorious, like I wonder what names like that, like at what point did it become that? Like how far when you go on Ancestry, where does that name come from? What part of Europe or what part of Asia

what part of Africa, you know, what part before North America did it come from? It says here Romanian. I come from a long line of glorious. I'm sorry. Stop it.

Let me go home. We got two more. Okay, I thought we've had two more. Three more. You're adding ones. Number four, or number three, actually. I like number four better. Number three is Jansen Junk. he's a pitcher

so you know he's throwing that junk it'd be better if he was Jansen's stuff because pitchers they have that stuff sometimes pitchers have junk

if there's a guy on second base would there be junk in his trunk? I mean Or would it be If he's on second base Is he the junk in the pitcher's trunk

That's all I'm saying I just want to see junk stuff It'd be better than seeing stuff's junk Now for Can you imagine people just carrying phallic things Through games Junk Junk

Junk! Junk! Junk! Junk! Let me see your junk! Let me see your junk! He's clearly the junkyard dog. Let me see your junk. All I know is a bunch of frat boys got hammered and painted something about Billy Koch

and they're just a long time ago with the Blue Jays. Number four. Steve, what? Where is this coming from? I don't know, I'm like You're like a rapper and it's only you! You were talking about junk, and you're like, Billy catch! Adam.

Billy catch! My brain has just enough fuel to get me home. It's like landing a plane right now. You're going to be listening to Harry Potter in 10 minutes, my friend. I guarantee it. Oh, my God. Two more names. Let's do it, Jesse.

Two more names. Number four. His name is Henry Henry. He's a Padres right-handed pitcher. Plays for Fort Wayne. His parents are dicks dicks. Is it spelled H-E-N-R-Y? R-Y, yeah.

Wow. Henry Henry. I don't know why. So can you call him The Henrys? Henry Squared. Because I would. He is The Henrys. Wouldn't you?

I would, for sure. Are you guys ready for the final name? There's a little something to this name. We give you a drum roll, Jesse. After I tell you about this Indian's first baseman, he plays in Akron. They also have their minor league system right down the road from the arena because it's in Akron and Cleveland Indians play in Cleveland.

That's cool. They can make the taxi ride over from Akron. Jesse, get to the damn name. This first baseman. Sicknarf Loopstock. Sorry. Sorry. See, now it—

One more time. Sicknarf Loopstock. Sicknarf Loopstock. See, it's strange, right? but it's not that strange. It's, like, weird. But spell Sicknarf backwards. Sicknarf.

F-R-A-N-C-I-S. Arnses? Francis. Francis. His parents decided to spell Francis backwards and make it his first name. Is that what they did? That's his name.

I want a warrant for their arrest. So when he holds his driver's license up, His real name is in the mirror. Francis, because you put it up backwards, right? Oh, my God. That's terrible. Why would they do that? Sicknarf?

Spell Sicknarf backwards. How did you know that it turned into Francis? I saw it in the comments. A K-O-T. He's crying. He's crying with tears. This is so ridiculous. Sicknarf Loopstock.

Where is he from? Somewhere in the Dr. Seuss universe. Why doesn't it say where he's from? He's from parts unknown like The Undertaker. Damn, dude. What a name. Sick Narf Loopstock. If only my brain had more power in it right now.

Anyways, so his parents spelled Francis backwards and they made it his first name. That's it. We'll see you on Saturday. I'm at a loss. But let's talk about who should play defense For the Leafs next year I'm Steve with my double IHF

Jersey And I don't care And I talk like this I'm gonna go drive to Oshawa Alright bye guys See you tomorrow Follow the guys on Twitter At Steve underscore Dangle

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