The Steve Dangle Podcast - Robo Stop | November 29, 2024
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exciting things to announce including a jesse blake live stream what are you doing jesse uh
Tomorrow is opening day of the PWHL season.
So I'm going to be streaming the Toronto Scepters first game.
They play at 2 p.m. against Boston.
So hopefully they kick Boston's butt and start the season off good.
But yeah, I'm going to do a sidecast to that.
The game's on CBC.
So pull up the free CBC stream if you're in Canada and then throw me on the side
and we'll have a good time watching the game together.
And that's great because when it's on CBC, it's not regionally blacked out.
Right?
We like a national broadcaster.
And in the States, I don't know.
Figure it out yourself.
Yeah.
Hey, I don't live there.
Not my problem.
Yeah, not my problem.
And now Miss Spoons is not going to be in the lineup.
Still recovering from that injury.
Miss Cuts is not going to be in the lineup, but I think they'll get off to a good start.
They're really good last year.
I hope they just continue it this year.
I felt like a team that should have won a championship.
You know, I don't want to say this, but like, don't blow a serious lead when you're up to nothing.
knees man knees uh minnesota's very good last year yeah they deserve that championship so um
and i also want to say a big happy thanksgiving to all of our american audience members uh my
mother is uh celebrating thanksgiving this weekend as well as she's american too may you win all your
arguments yeah may you win all your arguments uh and and uh and just know that you do have the
superior thanksgiving uh the timing the placement and the celebration you guys do it far better than
we do and i am glad that i get to celebrate both because how many times do you think at the dinner
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Member benefits, Jesse. If you're
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what sort of thing? So we're going to talk about
that. But the first thing I want to do
In the content side of the show, all the games yesterday, there were zero games.
Oh, OK.
Well, which is crazy.
What's the next thing?
There are lots of stories.
First off, I would like to say that David Alter was David Alter, friend of the show.
First guest we ever had, I believe, ever, ever, ever had was congratulated.
congratulated and uh uh they the leaf social media crew had pins pressed in honor of david
who was celebrating his 300th consecutive game covering the team in person wow in person so
david alter is my press box neighbor when i'm at the game so i sit in seat 63 and he's in seat 64
and stanley kept years yes yes hopefully that's a good omen um so we are talking about this on
sunday sunday game versus utah and he was like my next one my game in florida is my 300 300th
consecutive game and i was like congratulations can't wait till you hit a thousand i was like
what else do you have to you'll hit a thousand who cares um but so he started this streak
like little post-pandemic in 2021 and the last game he missed was a game that the Leafs had
in Winnipeg during the Canadian division season right and the reason he couldn't go there was
for COVID restrictions reasons I forget the exact restrictions but ever since that Winnipeg series
because remember they played series during that season he hasn't missed a game home or road and
it's quite the accomplishment because no one else can say that because major broadcasters don't
send everybody to every single game anymore and people just have different routines with daily
coverage of teams you know guys go to some games and then there'll be other people on staff who go
to different ones and alter as an independent person has committed to this and it's quite the
accomplishment and he has a newsletter where he talks about his travels as a reporter which is
also really cool how he gets these discounts on plane rides and hotel stays and how he works the
whole schedule from the beginning of the season to the end so he can plan his entire trip to do
it as cheaply as possible to make all of these games and he is a master at that stuff he loves
that stuff exactly you gotta have a passion for it that's the thing he truly loves it he truly
loves doing all of this stuff that's why there's a whole newsletter about it and you couldn't do
this if you weren't the most passionate person in the world about it which he is he's a lunatic
about it yeah he he was one of the first people to tell me about ways and he's like oh yeah like
uh i don't i don't i don't take the 401 to ottawa i'm like what you take side roads to ottawa
and apparently he does it also underrated thing about his coverage like a leg up he has on i think
literally every other regular reporter of the toronto maple east david alter well you can tell
by that last name speaks russian what yeah so he was speaking directly to nikita grabenkin right
yeah so when he does that does he like then turn around to you guys and go here's what he said
no so it was mainly the the grabenkin scrum that happened uh a couple games ago when he was in
there it was mainly translating the words in the questions that grabenkin might have not understood
so if say masters is there and he's like so how was that play in the third period when you had
that body check david altero like be like third because maybe grabenkin doesn't understand the
word third period or something so he'll come in russian and just kind of say that to him
so it helped it's such a so important because you know it helps the whole conversation but he has
conducted some interviews one-on-one with some guys in the past fully in russian that's telling
me about that too it's come such a handy for him he was the one that broke that uh grabovsky had
called uh randy carlisle an idiot remember did he really i'm pretty sure that was him where he's
Like, the guy's an idiot because he was – remember he got bought out
because Randy didn't like him?
He got bought out on his –
On a compliance buyout?
On his wedding day, I'm pretty sure.
Oh, my God.
Yeah.
But I think the one he was telling me about was when Shoshnikov was here.
He did some interviews with him in Russian.
Yes, because Shoshnikov – I got to interview him when he was with the Toronto Marlies,
and the Leafs had another Russian prospect at the time named Renat Valiev
who would stand next to him and translate everything for him.
And it was funny because this, you know, you ask him a question,
Valiev translates, Soshnikov speaks, Valiev translates it back.
And he did that for a few questions.
And then finally there was one where he cut Valiev off and he just goes, yeah.
He just cuts him off because he understood it or whatever.
But I guess he didn't have Valiev with him when he got called up.
So I don't know.
Are there any others around?
No.
All right.
Hopefully Alter can do it.
Yeah.
And you know he's going to be there because it's freaking David Alter.
No, Adam, I'm very happy you brought this up because I have such reverence for a reporter who's able to commit to that.
300, it's not a small thing.
No, and as Luke Fox wrote in his article, it's a lot of long layovers and mediocre coffees.
And I also think, like, listen, I know anybody listening to this would be like, I would give my left arm to do that.
But when you get out there and you do it on the road, and you have to remember, David is not your tradition.
It's not like it used to be in the past
where the newspaper had an admin person
who would book you on your flights
and send you your tickets and whatever.
It's like, no, David has to like do this.
You ever seen the show Extreme Couponing?
Like that's David's journey.
And again, he loves it, but it's not glamorous.
Well, also like I would give my left arm
as a little bit, you know,
what you would have done in the fight
if you were there.
Right, yeah, to put up or shut up.
Yeah, we all like to think we would kick someone's ass, for sure.
I'm sorry, the Leafs have a January game in Winnipeg.
Are you screaming to go there?
No.
A lot of people listening right now are like, yes.
But it's not won.
Exactly.
It's years and years of that.
It's not as easy as it looks on the outside looking in.
The Toronto Maple Leafs lost, obviously, the game to Florida.
I thought they did an okay job.
Keeping it close.
One thing that we should mention is that
Lorenz, OEL, and Stallers,
all former Panthers, all received their
Stanley Cup rings and were all in the
starting lineup against Florida, which I
thought was a nice Berube thing to do.
Big fan. Because I was like, why is he starting
the fourth line? And then it didn't kind of
snap in. Oh, yeah. Jason Spezza didn't
understand.
You can play? Yeah, no.
No way. No, the real
Babcock thing to do would be scratch
lorenz yeah and i'm sure ruby would have but they have no players um so he couldn't do it i
honestly watching the game that's a joke by the way uh other than a couple of penalties that you're
like yeah that might have been soft and want to grab bank and i'm like that's not boarding he
didn't even hit the boards but uh i didn't love that he got him directly in the numbers he did
i'm not the guy's there i'm not gonna argue with a call when a guy no no no no no but here's what
it is it came after a call uh where kachuk did basically the same thing and they weren't happy
about it and that is prison rules paul hockey there's two kinds of paul maurice games paul
maurice team coach games there's the prison rules where nothing is called and everyone dies
there's that this game wasn't that then there's oh you called my team for a thing that you're
not allowed to do well this entire bench is going to be on your ass until you even it up that's paul
maurice hockey baby what's the thing you did during the plus the six yeah where he knows it's
like five one it was five one yeah or which he should have been fine for and wasn't but no that's
your you nailed it like that's exactly what he does he gets that call first yeah i don't know
it's again it's uh what is it liar liar with jim carrey stop breaking the law asshole and but
But anyway, I thought they got a fortunate call there.
But at the end of the day, it's a team that has been playing really, really well
that was outmatched by an elite, hungry team.
Like, I'm honestly surprised the game was as close as it was.
The Panthers were better.
Oh, yeah.
They had more talent.
Because they super should have been.
Now, the one thing I did say on the stream was,
don't let Sam Reinhardt shoot.
he's shooting he shot 24 last year now shooting 28 that was a mistake in my opinion letting him
shoot that okay who sustainably over a season and a half has ever shot 25 or more not in like
not since the 80s probably why isn't that that should like if he gets to january and it's still
up around 25 people like somebody needs to do an article on that it's a bananas actually we
would be able to like if you did since the year like 2000 or or post lockout uh yeah it's crazy
man and like do minimum games play he's he's uh what sam reinhardt is doing is special yeah it's
very it was it was crazy i'm like he touched the buck bang gone in uh and there's more and more of
these like tiktok filters like you know which player would you rather and sam reinhardt came
up and i was like oh really like over certain guys and then you look it's like oh no he's
definitively one of the best goal scorers in hockey and kills penalties and like he belongs in
lots of the same conversations that matthews is in yep just over the like matthews has been doing
it for longer for sure but uh what reinhardt's done since basically the beginning of last year
is crazy hey what did he resign for oh that's right 8.6 million dollars just not fair it's just
not no it's okay but now all these uh you know drew just the harbinger of of doom uh he was in
the studio today and he's like hey did you see that insider trading segment where they just talked
about marner and ranton's next contracts i went no he goes oh why i'm like because i really don't
want to he's like oh here and he presses play and it's about them asking for 13 14 million dollars
yeah and i just where's the leafs 8.6 where's where is that we live in canada we have high
taxes yeah that's what i don't i hate calling out adam for his florida bias but you're talking
you're raving about Sam Reinhardt
when across the state
there's a guy named Braden Point.
Oh, but he didn't play the Leafs.
Who sucks, by the way.
He's not playing the Leafs till tomorrow.
That's why I didn't bring up Braden Point.
Do you know how high
Braden Point's shooting percentage is?
I have no idea.
40.5%.
Wow, that's amazing.
Where does he rank?
I'm not joking.
Jesse, where does he rank, though,
on his team in total shots?
Because I want to know,
like, is he just...
Doesn't he have 17 goals or something like that?
That's insane.
No, he has 15 goals.
40%.
He's shooting 40.5%, and he has 15 goals.
In terms of shots on the lightning, shots,
Braden points at 7th.
So wait, what is his percentage?
40.5.
So there is someone who scored against the Leafs the other night
who's higher, and I talked about this in the LFR video.
That's insane.
Jack McBain of Utah.
Yeah, he's having a year.
He has eight goals.
Anyone want to take a guess how many shots?
Eight goals.
Twelve.
Because it's goofy.
Eighteen.
Wow, really?
He has nearly...
Sorry, I shouldn't have been that goofy.
He has nearly scored as many goals as he's had shots saved.
He's shooting 44.4%.
I had to think about that one.
Yeah.
Wow.
Yeah, Sam Reinhardt's not even in the top five
in terms of shooting percentage
amongst players who've played at least 15 games.
This season?
No, that's Jesse.
I don't know.
I was like, we're raving about Sam Reinhardt.
He's not even good.
We got him?
He's not even good.
He's not even top five.
Listen to this.
Matt Duchesne's got a higher shooting percentage
than Sam Reinhardt.
We've got to...
Oh, yeah.
That means he's bad then.
Yeah, Sam Reinhardt sucks.
That's right.
Yeah.
Ryan McLeod, higher than Sam Reinhardt.
Yeah.
He's shooting 30%.
Man, why is this guy so bad?
Why are we even talking about him?
Sam Reinhardt's ass.
We're wasting so much time on Sam garbage ass Reinhardt.
If you guys are curious, save percentage, or save percentage,
shooting percentage amongst players who have played at least 15 games.
Sam know her.
It's Jack McBain at 44, Braden Point at 40, Scott Pernovich at 40,
adam gaudette at 35 matt duchesne at 32 marcus felino at 30 ryan mcleod at 30 and then sam
reinhardt at 27.9 so there you go uh just to add to jesse's stat so uh adam gaudette leads the nhl
in shooting percentage dating back to last season among players who have uh more than nine shots
um he's uh 35.5 like you just said on 31 shots sunny milano shooting 27.8 on 54 shots
sam reinhardt first among players with more than 100 shots 25.2 on 294 shots braden point behind
him at 23.1 yeah i don't care about last season i don't live in the past
Sam Reinhardt sucks, he's eighth
True, you know what
Adam asked about the all time
list
Charlie Simmer
highest shooting percentage in a season
the 1980-1981 season
he shot 32.7%
he scored
56 goals
highest career shooting percentage
Craig Simpson, and I know that because I talked to him
yeah that's uh that's one of the most famous that's hilarious there but yeah he uh it was
in a hotel lobby i go uh hey did you know that you held a record and he goes career shooting
he knew right away will braden point break craig simpson's record this year that's a damn good
question he's no he's played too long oh like single season yeah uh it's possible because
well charlie stupid charlie simmers record but craig simpson is uh sixth there all time
in a single season no someone someone brought up the uh adam gaudette stat to me they're like did
you know that leaf legend adam gaudette has 11 goals this season and my question was in the nhl
which i knew he was playing in the nhl and i remember watching him in the preseason i'm like
i like this guy i like this guy i feel like he didn't get a shot with the least because he got
hurt um holy shit like what what a career resurgence for him he's about the only thing
going right in that place right now in ottawa yeah yeah they played well last game okay they
managed uh two goals on two shots and and all mark was in there saving the day how's how's the
against the sharks can they get a game where they are not getting pathetically outshot and getting
goaltending at the same time yeah no no that's impossible uh like i'm not sure it's happened yet
Leaf game.
Back to the Leaf game.
What about it?
It was bad.
I don't want to.
Well, there wasn't too, too much more to go.
Like, listen.
So, Nyes and Matthews, the Matthews are coming back.
Matthews' first name and Matthews' last name.
Is that confirmed?
Apparently, that's what's happening.
Oh, dear.
So, not a moment too soon.
They need some scoring in the lineup.
But never has it been more obvious.
And I know they lost eight.
They lead the NHL with eight forwards who were injured at the same time.
Uh, but the, the thing I would say is that they desperately needed another centerman.
Uh, it's nice that you have guys coming in and trying to step or whatever.
Uh, Minton's not, I don't think Minton's in any, like, I think they wanted Minton at the
AHL level.
They didn't want to call them up this year.
Uh, they didn't want, I don't think that the plan was to bring up Alex Nylander at all,
especially not even this early, but at all.
And then you've got, um, you know, Grebenkin who they liked in training camp, but again,
And they want these guys back in the AHL.
I'd like to see Minton in the same lineup as Matthews just to see how he does because he everyone's playing grossly out of their depth.
Like the second line, I said this in the LFR, it's Nylander and two guys who probably don't make the lineup if it's healthy.
Right.
With Holmberg and Robertson.
That's insane.
Holmberg isn't their answer at second line center.
or second line wing or no because remember we were freaking out a couple podcasts ago because
he was skating on a line with i think it was matthews and nylander as the wing it's ridiculous
no top six no matter what he's no matter what they have the entire lineup playing out of their
depth so it's hard to evaluate what's going on from that game when this isn't an nhl team but
if your goal is to get mitten back to the ahl which they say it is well then they're gonna have
to make a move they don't have much choice because like okay you got to send down i mean
minton and grabenkin are the only guys who don't require waivers yeah so they're going back first
so nyes and matthews are in the lineup all right boop boop easy even if grabenkin sort of deserves
a longer look yeah that's the life of a prospect though that's that's how it works what what i
thought was really interesting i i never know what the narrative is going to be coming out of a game
like that um and i what i never expected that game to be is nick robertson is over party
yep this fan base is over it so okay is that fair though uh here's what we got to acknowledge
because everyone's like man he was so good in the preseason the preseason doesn't matter oh
yeah i know preseason doesn't matter we all know that let's let's go back though he was fine last
year he wasn't always in the lineup but when he was he was uh he's contributing he was like a 0.4
0.5 points a game this guy has as many points as some goalies like it i think his next game will
be his 19th or 20th something like that he's got one point he's got a goal and a disallowed goal
like and the disallowed goal you're still tied for assists anything like yeah i'm still i think
he has zero assists yep no he has one point on the whole year it's like i wish i could be a time
traveler okay nick robertson uh 20 a quarter way through the season is tied with chris crider and
assists hey wow that's pretty good no no wait though devil's details yeah so am i he's tied
with chris crider and me so your eyes love koski pulled ahead of uh nick robertson in the goals
race the other night with two he's got two now so like so i guess i guess what's what i'm trying
to figure out it's not hey what happened between the pre-season and now i mean what happened is
the game started counting and the players got better and i understand all that but oh okay
like can we get them power play opportunities they're getting them on the power play okay
can we get them playing with good players and playing in the top six okay well they've had
that sometimes and then you have like frank conversations i think it was kipper and born
where justin bourne's like what just put robertson you have six forwards out which it's now seven
if robertson can't play in the top six like we're done here uh put him put him on the second line
and kipper's like what is he driving the net is he is he this is he that like there are players
i've watched over the years with the marlies and you watch them and you go why isn't this guy in
the nhl and then the puck goes down to their end and you go oh okay fine i get it tj brennan oh
yeah i've never seen a more monster he might be the most gifted offensive defenseman i've ever
seen bobby or paul coffee eric carlson screw them all tj brennan in his own end holy shit
like what are you doing and um every time the leafs get hemmed in i'm like who's out there
who's that that there's 89 and it's not even always his fault and but we accept that about
an offensive player if they're scoring he's not even scoring so like what am what am i missing
other than like i feel like what's missing from his game that was a conversation for a month ago
and now it's purely confidence you have a two-on-one with william nylander
and the outcome is a weak backhand that was the worst moment a whole week
i almost cried dude i laughed out loud it was it was sad i tried to spin it into a positive like
he needed that shot oh yeah no we back in right into bob's chest and it was like no he needed
that he needed to do that he needed to feel like he could do that every every play is just him going
oh and he's upset and like it's what you know what was interesting about last season and they're not
going to do this but if i remember correctly there was a totally bizarre stretch where he
would get healthy scratched and then the next game that he played he would score but he would only
score in the game after he was scratched right and if they had the literal warm bodies to put
into the lineup i think that would be really good for him yeah to take a night off and then go back
in but they straight up don't have the horses right now right now they don't have a choice at
all but to play nick robertson but it's also he's getting the opportunity because they don't have a
choice to put him in the lineup and he's not seizing this opportunity well like are you
replacing matthew nyes with him it's it's replacing a a jeep with a smart car like it's not the same
thing and like bobby mcmahon same thing and i'm looking at grabenkin and now that mcmahon's out
And I'm like, okay, well, I mean, if you can keep him in the lineup, that makes a lot more sense to fill that hole.
What hole is Nick Robertson filling?
I guess that's where we're getting to with the Nick Robertson conversation.
I'm not, I don't want to give up on somebody who's so young, who makes so little, who has potential.
You're going to get a fifth round pick for like a guy who could do stuff.
Right.
But we're getting to the point where it's like, what do you do here?
because it's if you're not if nick robertson isn't scoring or generating anything offensively
which he isn't he's not even like i don't remember last time he was on for where he got he's like a
plus you know in terms of just being on for a goal and like what was the last game he finished
as a plus in um because i think it's it's been months and so i don't know what he's doing here
right what's what's your role on this team if you're not an offensive because you're not good
defensively you're not a center where it's just like oh you're a good defensive center you're
you're a sport winner big you're genetically not you're not big for nothing oh shit at least big
for nothing players are big for nothing he's not anything right now and i it was carlo koliakovo
they they ran a clip about how robertson's turning into lilligren 2.0 and the conversation also does
not have an assist the conversations timothy does have an oh he got one yeah he got one
the Lilligran conversation
and the Robertson conversations
are starting to mirror each other
what do you do
because people are going back
to you know Lilligran
he had that good stretch
when Morgan was out
or when he was playing with Morgan
and he had those good couple weeks
and you go back to the Robertson
he had those good couple weeks last year
but then
he's drawing penalties
you know
we like that
also he's young
he doesn't make a lot of money
although Jesse screwed him out of that
yeah
you're like oh he draws penalties
well
that's done
you don't want to give up
on this young player
and then now lilligren goes away and everything's kind of fine so so i worry like we're reaching
that point with robertson where it's like yeah we'll trade him and everything will be fine you
know the thing the thing about the lilligren thing is it was he was a clearly a favorite of the
previous administration and uh and some even dom i think wrote in a recent article like it was
probably a mistake to let him go and like i'd be i have to be honest like i had moved on from that
player i just was like not i just i'm like there's nothing here to support this administration and
coaching staff loves robertson's effort yes but these he tries production ass off every uh drives
me nuts here uh robertson in his first eight games was a plus in four of them um it was even plus one
even minus one even plus one plus one plus one so a streak of plus one in three straight games
that ended on october 24th that was the last time he was a plus in the game so when i said
robertson hasn't been a plus in months i'm not exaggerating over a month over a month like uh
and his dude his shots on goal are pathetic so he had he had in his last game where he was a plus
against st louis he had five shots on goals and now on goal since then one one one one one one
one three two one two i'm the biggest detractor of plus minus so i don't want to take too much
from it but how about the shots on goal then the shots on goal lifeblood 100% means something he's
not getting shot and when you watch the game itself you recognize Nick Robertson's out there
because he's the guy who's trying the most but doing the least well and like he okay uh so again
17 minutes he played in that game against the St. Louis Blues he's not playing nearly as much
but it's still like it's not you know how you see a guy play like four or five minutes and you're
like oh well coach doesn't even give them a chance 11 11 and a half nearly 12 10 and a half nearly
12 uh nearly 11 11 exactly 12 10 and a half 16 53 in the game against utah one one shot on goal for
god's sake and uh 13 27 like he's he's playing and every time you ask greg ruby about nick
robertson he says i feel for the guy he's working hard he's just not getting the luck
and i'm just waiting for the moment for the luck to turn around and it hasn't come yet i almost
feel like you can't trade him the like what are you getting out of a nick robertson trade other
than a roster spot like you that's a good point dude you gotta keep playing the guy until he gets
out of this and then you reevaluate you don't sell somebody at the very bottom of their value i i bet
you could wave him and not have somebody put in a claim i honestly think you're right way i think he
might sneak through waivers i think he could i think the penguins scoop him up immediately
that's actually a good point the the they take back what i said one because they stink and two
dubas is like i was this very smart man who picked him and also the very smart head of scouting
who i stole from toronto yeah told me to pick him so we're gonna be very smart and take him
and we're gonna break bread not with our enemies though also aren't they like
aren't they like 30th in the waiver order he's 100 a penguin yeah no no yeah yeah yeah like
he's absolutely a penguin yeah i'd be like if i'm brad and i'm trying to trade him that is my
first phone call yeah like are you kidding me it's my first phone and dubas would be like no
i can get them for free i'm gonna no i'm gonna wait like two weeks they have to play this player
yeah or like your eyes there's no winning you're not the odds of you getting someone
like you know underrated really underrated dubious friggin fleecing with the leafs although
it didn't look like it um like two months ago he traded big burly forward prospect curtis douglas
to Arizona for Connor
Timmons.
Holy shit! Like, that's
been awesome.
That trade isn't happening for
Nick Robertson, where you get a guy
and it's the reverse of
Mason Marchment, and
I just don't think it's
happening. You're not going to get a pick of any kind of value.
No Greg McKegg for Zach Hyman's out there?
Holy shit! That was
a crazy trade, right?
And even that, though,
it's a guy forcing his way out of the place whereas timmons for douglas is just dubious
frigging around the fringes of a roster like i i don't know if he was like yeah yeah you know what
this guy's gonna be great for us and it's gonna be after i'm gone like i i don't know i don't know
i just you're not going to win that trade and you're either going to trade him for a trade that
is nothing or it's a trade that you lose because nick robertson turns into nick robertson so
counterpoint with the trade market lilligren got a third and a fifth from san jose right
lilligren at the time of his trade had played one game for the toronto maple leafs but he has a three
million dollar contract per year and he shoots right and he's a defenseman nick robertson it
makes no money and has a lot of potential so i'm just saying there might be a slight trade market
for robertson and that like we all see that what he could be you ain't getting a third and a fifth
definitely not yeah but there might be something but hopefully you get a 2027 fourth from pittsburgh
no sorry nashville's gone nashville's gone uh but there might be something for robertson
and hopefully during the stretch where they have injuries he does something and they can move him
No, best option for Robertson is on Saturday, he has 13 shots and 5 goals.
What's Sittler's record?
10 points.
And he had 6 goals.
So Robertson's trying to break Sittler's record.
To me, that's the most concerning part.
Like, okay, yeah, the effort's there, the effort's there.
He's not even shooting.
And the shots aren't good.
I think I saw he's hit 8 posts.
you like what if he's just the most wildly unlucky player in the nhl like three percent
three percent yeah but it's always like you said if you look at the shots like he's not
shooting like it'll be one two one one like he's not shooting that much like i think what a lot of
like i understand the frustration with this player but this is actually not the time to trade him
it's not it's the time to trade nikita grabinkin no adam where do you sit on this uh
i i think that it's if the lineup's healthy i have a hard time seeing a minute
uh and i've loved the effort but i the interesting thing about nick robertson it was it never an
effort thing um and the way he scored goals last year was on the rush and what are they doing now
they're dumping and chasing uh no wonder this guy can't score i'm like it's not his game um
i think they like him i think they have given him a chance but i would also say he's not playing
with a playmaker either well no and this is brings me back to how i started this conversation how i
start every conversation which is they need another center they need it here's why they
need another center you can't i don't even think you can make a decision on robertson until you
have a center who's competent in that role you need a brock nelson you need a ryan o'reilly you
need something in there robertson and domey can't play together because they're bad defensively
but neither of them can score either neither of them yeah oh my god nobody's injured he's injured
their combined goal total this season is one but if you if i i think if you put
oh fuck because i like them i prefer them both on the right damn it here's what i would do
robertson on the left domi on the right get a center that's not pontus holmberg they need a
center they need a center pontus holmberg is out and you're not gonna like people are like uh on
the stream they're like what about lorenz i'm like well listen lorenz is good in his role that's
why you like lorenz if you saw lorenz playing first line center you wouldn't like him uh it's
it's that this is the thing you got these guys are plugged the thing that the leafs have when
everybody's healthy is they have a good first line they have a good second line they have a
good fourth line the third line was always going to be the problem here this and this is the way
they started last year yes here let's put camp above his depth and they just wrecked the first
month of three players right in the process it was him it was nice it was domi they probably
saved a little money on Domi's contract uh yeah I think so and so when when I when I look at this
it's it's such an easy call it's an easy call you can't have Nylander playing with Holmberg
not a game long no I know but not a game long who the hell's this guy yeah take our center
well I'm is that the job or is that I'm sorry oh no no I'm sorry Brad did you get signed up
for an easy job I I didn't know you got to make five million bucks and have it easy
I know listen first of all I would love to have five million bucks and have those kinds of
problem i'd work hard for it even you might i would like it i would like to work hard i'd work
hard for it um uh it's just i just don't yes the job is hard and yes it's his job to make it happen
no matter what but who is like yes take our totally competent middle six center it's just
there are not many players like somebody is going to the blackhawks like we keep talking about jason
Dickinson they want to get better like that that's this is why there's so much discontent in the NHL
it's not just the teams are doing poorly or they're below expected like no one's content to
be bad and rebuild there's no Bedard there's no Celebrini coming through the door um I don't even
know who's supposed to go first overall this year I'm sure they're a really really good player
but teams are not content to be shit this year they all want to get better which means they
don't want to help you they want to help them they want to get better now right now
i so i don't know i don't know how that i don't know who the hell that center is
or where they're coming from i'm open to suggestions just get one oh simply speaking
of somebody who did play center it is reported uh arthur staple of the athletic reported today
that the Rangers checked in on JT Miller
because things might not be...
Oh, interesting.
Well, I thought it was interesting
because I was like,
he had a great year last year.
Potentially things aren't great with talking.
I don't know.
JT Miller's always a guy that's somewhat discontented.
I don't.
But then he runs on anger.
He's like Kyle Lowry, ran on pure anger.
I don't know what to make of that situation at all
because we don't really know anything about it.
It's hard to speculate on JT Miller
when he's left the team, you know?
It's like, we don't know.
It's also worth mentioning the Canucks are good.
Like, they're just...
They've been playing decent of late, yeah.
A pretty good team.
Yeah, but like, they're supposed to have
one of the best goalies in the world
and they're getting comparable results
out of Kevin Lankanen.
Yeah, because the...
Which I think is pretty good.
They are doing good on that one.
um the philip ronick for the vancouver canucks is going to be out a while he went shoulder first
into the end boards uh against the penguins and by the way the penguins had a 5-1 lead and almost
lost the game uh-huh um cj put that in the chat and i was like ah you just wait and ronick
it was unfortunate it happened less than a minute left in the game so i would imagine that's a
shoulder and that's a pain in the ass well who's been rumored to be looking to offload defenseman
new york the new york rangers jake truba vancouver canuck jake truba
keandre miller andre miller is not that that's they're not trying to trade him
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CJ wrote a great article in The Athletic.
Who the hell is CJ?
Talked a little bit about Chris Johnson.
Talked a little bit about Tavares' next deal
and how it's looking like Tavares wants to stay.
How do you feel about Tavares between six and seven million a year?
I would definitely live with it.
Oh, yeah.
On pace for 77 points this year.
It's even strength minutes are generating 55% of expected goals and scoring 71% of actual.
A month ago, we said there's no way I'm signing him to that kind of money because he's been terrible.
Right.
He has now no longer been terrible.
He was sick.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Which at the time we didn't know.
I also we did say it.
We did say it.
We didn't understand the extent of his illness.
It's like, this man out there probably shouldn't be playing hockey.
It looked bad.
Well, it's like, is he sick or washed or what is it?
And then he scored, and you go, good for him.
And then he scored again, and you go, hey, hey, real good for him.
And then he was just sort of one of their best players.
And you go, oh, okay, shit, pretty good.
Now he's gotten into the flow of the season.
He's back healthy, and you realize it's still in there.
Like, this dude can still do what he does.
You, I mean, to get a John Tavares in free agency, you know, it wouldn't be what it was seven, eight years ago, but six or seven mil to get a player who can produce what he can produce on the open market is at least that.
And as Alan Walsh and Adam Wilde keep saying, the cap's going up.
So it'll just look better as the years go on.
Well, and I look at that and I go, there's your next, you know, I keep saying the Leafs need a third line center.
What they actually need to do is trade for a second line center.
Because Tavares eventually is going to be your third line center, right?
And that's what you need to do.
Go find a team.
Go find a team that needs a shakeup.
That's it.
And there seems to be a lot of teams that want to have a shakeup.
So easy.
You just said that 23 or 24 teams are not happy right now.
I know.
We have to understand when Steve says there's 32 teams that are unhappy,
he's just trying to manifest trades.
I am.
No, but it's true, though.
it's true what i i we we're gonna have a shorter show but like if we went down the entire list i
think there's seven happy even if we were having the longest show of all time i would still never
let you do that you know how boring that would be all right we're gonna rank i'm gonna rank them
based on best no now we're gonna i i okay now i would i would listen to a i would watch a video
of you steve doing the ranking of the most desperate teams in the nhl the pissed off
I would watch that.
Don't listen to Adam.
You know what?
Maybe that's an STPN thing you can do.
Don't listen to him.
Maybe you can make a single STPN video.
That's a good ranking.
No, Jesse, rarely do.
Hey, I wanted to talk, too, about this interview the Athletic did with Marc Bergevin.
Did you guys read this?
No.
So it's interesting because there's a lot of stuff.
But this is with Pierre Lebrun.
and this is where somebody who was a general manager wanted to take a step back and admittedly
he did he won he was like i'm burnout you can see how a montreal job would burn him out this is where
a gm goes fishing this is what because what you can do what is his role with he's like an advisor
scout special executive with the la kings like i don't know the exact title but he's an assistant
to the general manager um and he goes to a lot of games uh and and helps them kind of just you know
if they're going to trade for somebody he's the guy that's right it's just like an advisor role
not actually assistant general manager no right not assistant i don't believe it's agm okay now
uh it's interesting because he talks about a lot of stuff in this and he really opens up
and bergevin in the past and we don't remember this but bergevin in the past was actually known
is like a hardcore practical joker and like a really fun guy to have in the dressing room when
he was in the nhl and obviously playing in montreal you're and if you're not successful
you're gonna not have a smile on but i wanted to run through some of these things so the first
thing you need to know is that he said you know kova took a toll on me it was a 14-day quarantine
to enter quebec at that point he said i didn't see my kids for almost a year oh shit holy crap
and even though you know he's he's at the age where his kids are a little bit older who cares
it's not like he doesn't have a six-year-old at home but who cares well it's still your family
and you're not seeing them for almost a year and so that's the season they go to the finals right
yeah uh and and i think that kind of stuff and i i think it's a flash point for us because
you know we talk about um uh you know matthew kachuk wanting to leave canada what's not been
said that's blatantly obvious is that two countries decided to handle covid in different ways and you
can you can guess at which country did better or worse or whatever and that's probably down to who
you vote for and i'm not getting into that but what i will say is that it turned a lot of players
off playing here talk about it at dinner yeah for sure no it did it did canada was in a pretty good
spot for players to come before covet after covet it's flared up again where it doesn't want to
play in canada i'm hearing that a lot more especially not reading it a lot more yeah and
it's because i think a lot of guys had some kind of not like listen imagine your matthew kachuk
your entire family can go out to a restaurant without a mask on and you can't leave your house
in calgary like i i i think that and for all of us at the time watching it on unfold on twitter
and instagram it was like oh like you're still jealous even if you think what you're doing is
the right thing you're still like fuck i really would like to go get a burger made by somebody
else you know what i mean and and so um that kind of stuff is something that you should keep an eye
on because there's reputation in this for a country and so when people say they want to come north of
the border it's taxes it's government styles it's this it's that some of the i think it was maybe
the anvil that broke the camel's back it was an anvil no question uh next one it was interesting
because he said you know uh on his tracker he said looking back i feel pretty i feel our average
was pretty good um and you know it's interesting i had a look at the seasons that he that he did
and mark bergevin was a lot more successful with this team than i realized with the haps with the
halves um dude they had some really good runs we were talking in the um we were talking uh in the
in a group chat the other day and i mentioned it on um on my stream uh canadians wikipedia so i'm
just pulling up their their season by season record mark bergman got there in 2012 okay
and the leafs have won the division and you're gonna laugh at this if you're a fan of another
team they've won it six times in their history four of them are what the Leafs have won their
division six times in their history their history is 112 years or something like that and and six
times four of the times were in the 40s they had a division win in 1999 and what was the last one
Steve you remember the last of Canada a made-up division yes that lasted one year and they lost
anyway and and so i compare and contrast that with the montreal canadians who under mark bergman
who took over in spring 2012 okay they won the division in 2012 2013 2014 2015 and 2016 2017
that's three right there that's half of all the division wins the leafs had they made the playoffs
in 2012 2013 they made it again the next year they made it again the next year didn't qualify
that the following made it again the next year missed two in a row and then you get one two
so out of like 10 years there he's at like seven or eight 2013 suban norris uh 2015 i think price
vesna and heart yeah the price only won one vesna that seems wrong i don't that i you're asking the
wrong guy like there's jack awards individual trophies as well like yeah man the habs uh but
are rarely historically they are rarely bad over a sustained period of time but lebrun yeah
price only has one vesna that's crazy lebrun does push him on some things about his record
and i thought it was interesting he doesn't push too hard uh but talks to him about the
draft record so for instance when they drafted cock and emmy in 2018 and the next guy drafted
was brady kachuk cock and emmy went third yeah and he said i look at that honestly if you remember
brady had a tough season at bu he didn't score for a long time the skating was an issue and at
the time in montreal uh all we heard was philip zadina zadina zadina because he was playing in
halifax in the quebec league uh obviously now you say well of course and he said we didn't have any
centermen in the system we were looking for a guy a guy and here's this tall lanky centerman
uh he had some good hockey as a 17 year old uh cockney emmy scored a playoff ot winner for them
brady kachuk has not played a playoff game yet right worth mentioning uh there was the suban
weber trade which at the time seemed so shockingly bad but at the time it was hot ass but they both
went to the finals with those defense well and they went to the final with suban right away
yes uh it's difficult to say weber aged better than suban because i mean both guys had to retire
early uh but weber did age better he did he aged better uh yes jesse no i think i definitely think
there's a great argument that montreal won that trade i oh my god yeah at the time i thought it
was really really stupid yeah i think all on that trade the entire hockey world love dumping on the
canadians for that trade because of what the preds did immediately after but history will show that
it was not a bad trade at all for the canadians and in the end they probably won it no the
immediate uh result was oh i think they fucked up yeah and no they've uh they did okay and it
depends on how you want to look at it a matter of like if you wanted to been around for the
community aspect and and the star player he became and all that stuff but from a pure
on ice performance weber definitely aged uh i think better in the later stages of his career
right and so then i i look at at this and and so we talk about remember the sebastian ajo
offer sheet uh he said ajo was the right player to give an offer sheet to but i wish
i it had been through it had been through a different offer sheet would i take take that
back yes but honestly at the time we thought we were getting the player based on the signing
bonuses which tom dundon ended up matching it ended up being a good contract for them
lesson learned lesson learned if i ever become a gm again that's a lesson i learned going forward
and he he basically said he wishes he hadn't done it because it did prompt the cockney emmy thing
which they didn't match and also i i don't understand why he wouldn't like i actually
respected the fact that he was like getting out there and being aggressive yeah but the criticism
was uh like when it comes to an offer sheet you basically have to offer too much money you got
to do what they did with broberg and uh broberg it's like do you want brobert yep okay what about
for four million okay you're on drugs although he had a pretty damn good start and then he did
have a pretty damn good start and then he got hurt and all the way the same but i seem to remember
the immediate reaction being like that's it you you made it eight eight and a half i think for
sebastian ajo if you're carolina you go yuck yuck and you just thanks sign it and be done with it
and then and you know cockney maybe got six yeah so if you're gonna that was a crazy don't dip your
toe and make it 10 yes make it 11 make it 12 and this is what like a lot of stat heads have been
arguing for years is is to do it exactly the way carolina did it with cockney i mean now
how is it gone but that's how you do it is you offer an exorbitant amount
and you either have to trade other players off your roster yeah or uh uh friggin let the player
go now i want to i want to mention that two of the playoff seasons i mentioned
were technically speaking weird one of them the haves were not in the playoffs they made the
playoffs because the nhl expanded to 24 teams to allow the play-in round yeah but they didn't make
the playoffs that year and they wouldn't have made the playoffs if they kept playing the season
it was it was so absurd that how far they expanded down they were 24th yeah they know and they had no
shot of making the playoffs that year but they but they made it through the play-in round they beat
the penguins and then uh they lost to the flyers and penguins were fifth i know yeah uh and then
the the the canadian division year um they were fourth of all the canadian teams they were not
very good lost more games than they won if i remember yeah like it was like leafs 80s playoff
appearance lost more games than they won get you know but then these guys went to the final there's
no damn excuse there's a series yeah no there isn't that there should have been an in retrospect
back somebody needs to do a documentary on what the leafs should have done after that series but
all that said the leafs won as many games against them as the no more games against them yeah then
the jets and golden knights combined what i find what i find interesting about this though is
there's a lot of credit and and deserve to being taken for his record over that time what is not
really mentioned in the article is the majority of the success came at the beginning and you're
and you got to look at who else was good uh boston was good uh detroit was on the waning years of
good right when they were winning when montreal was winning division titles oh yeah detroit was
on the wane but they were still making they were there um and the divisions also realigned so it's
hard to remember who was in what division but the leafs were ass dog the sabers were ass dog bar um
the senators were good ish sometimes i can't remember in the early 2010s probably um like
not and and uh and the florida panthers were the most forgettable they were forgettable you knew
they were going to make the playoffs it was a guarantee hot columbus this was not a good
division california was the strong part of the map back then death valley was crazy and this is even
pre the lightning making the finals in like 2015 right like we're talking about and and a lot of
the players they made a conference final in 2011 oh there you go they were okay the the point i'm
trying to make though is that Montreal had two guys before Bergevin Pierre Gauthier and Bob Ganey
who drafted all of the players that Mark Bergevin rode to that success he inherited a team with a
lot of promise and if you look at what happened after when he started making the decisions this
is my drawback with Mark Bergevin and this is not like a personal thing but sounds personal
does it sound personal oh i hate him personally yeah my drawback with him adam was actually happy
that he couldn't see his kids yeah whoa i was rooting for it sorry adam i was just detecting
the lie mark bergevin hasn't been the general manager of the montreal canadians since november
28th 2021 and i look at the puckpedia page for the montreal canadians and i still see these
contracts brennan gallagher six and a half million josh anderson five and a half million
Christian Dvorak that trade uh you know Joel Armia was was you know he's a guy they might
scratch even now at 3.4 million and and not all of that is his fault because he didn't resign some
of these guys but he signed the Gallagher deal he signed the the Anderson deal the Anderson deal
looked bad from the start the Gallagher deal he's like well he'd scored 30 goals three straight
years we had to pay him actually he'd scored twice and then scored 22 this is a guy that never had
over 50 you know much over 50 points uh you didn't need to sign him to that you just chose to sign
him to that did bergevin do suzuki uh did he make that trade i think i think he did spectacular
trade pretty good trade so there is what i'm saying is this is a very mixed record for this
person and the most interesting part of this article which i have been holding back on is he
is one of the guys that interviewed for the toronto job when dubas left yeah i think if someone with
that kind of tenure wants to interview you take it the former general manager of a canadian team
knew the leafs well because they're in the same division yeah it makes sense i just thought it
was interesting i mean ultimately do i want that no but i i think it's it's i mean you you gain
you gain knowledge from from the applicants you interview as well so i like i know a lot of people
hated that this is definitely me coping and talking myself into not being worried about that
um but it didn't happen did it no truly and he's done good i feel like bergevin would deserve
an interview because if there's a market that's more crazy than toronto it's montreal so it'd
actually be like a step down from the media hoopla if he was gm of the toronto maple leaf right the
last time the Leafs had a uh like a like a Habs mainstay run the show was Ken Dryden yeah that
went well it went okay that went well yeah and like like you said Steve they didn't give him
the job but they interviewed him which I feel like you're doing your due diligence who knows
how many people they interviewed and this isn't a uh this isn't like the Leafs offering Dave Boland
the contract that he ended up taking in Florida or whatever like this isn't an offer an interview
is not an offer no they talked to somebody they talked to a guy yeah yeah so i thought that was
i just thought it was interesting and then of course he didn't want to say much on the logan
mayu stuff but but uh um pierre lebrun said if bergevin is to become an nhl gm one day he will
have to answer the question in more detail as a part of his interview process with his next nhl
owner the player asked teams to not draft him and they did it anyway there's no excuse well i'm sure
he'll have to make one um but it's a i just thought it was an interesting piece that essentially reads
like a job interview in the athletic and it's great for pierre lebrun because he gets a great
interview with a former general manager of the montreal canadians for a decade or 12 years or
whatever it was it was a crazy long time um and i think you're going to start to hear mark bergevin's
name start to pop up again yeah it sounds like he's angling for another job and is doing some pr
to put his name out there.
Because it looks like there's going to be quite a few jobs available
come this offseason.
What is it, Steve?
Well, I'm just trying to look at some of the players
they could have drafted instead of Mayhew.
I don't think you need to do that.
Let's just move on.
Josh Toth.
Let's just move on.
Olin Zellweger.
Anyway, I'm serious.
We all know.
We know.
That's been litigated.
We know.
The last thing I want to say is Sidney Crosby
apparently hosts Thanksgiving every year at his house.
Wow.
And Marcus Pedersen said, it's kind of cool because you can just show up at Sid's house and you go to things.
And he's like, he doesn't care how late you stay either.
What do you think Sid's house looks like?
I bet it's just, what do you, I bet.
What is it like when Sidney Crosby answers the door?
I bet it's huge.
And I bet it's like, you know, if you can accommodate 30 people, like, or 20, 22 teammates and their families.
Right.
Is it covered in puck marks?
I'm sure there are parts of it.
Yo, Leo is starting to fuck my basement up.
That kid.
He's putting some marks in the wall.
No, Crosby has no kids, so.
You think it's just him?
Not that we know of.
He just has a washer dryer, and he just beats the dog shit out of it.
Oh, did I put that out there?
No, I'm kidding.
He doesn't have any kids.
I don't know if Crosby's lighting up his own walls.
I think he is.
He might.
Yo, Crosby's got to have some sort of hockey rink.
Yeah, I think he would have an area to practice.
Yeah.
Okay, but consider this.
Oh, man, how'd that dent get in the wall?
Oh, I hosted a party with the Pittsburgh Penguins and the whole hockey team, including Evgeny Malkin, was probably having a couple glasses of red wine.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's all I'm saying.
No, it's good.
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So let's get to Halifax stories.
Yes, my goodness.
He's been dying for this.
Yes, and people from Halifax
were getting very upset about it.
They don't get upset.
That's true.
No, I wanted to do show and tell.
Because East Coasters,
I don't think it's that they love
the East Coaster stereotypes.
I think it's just because they can't help it.
Well, they are what we say they are.
Dumb.
No, I'm kidding.
they're no that's not credible nice warm unbelievable people okay and uh like it's
not like i brought a bag or something like hey place gifts here please um the book signings
that we did in halifax uh on friday night and dartmouth saturday morning people gave me so
much stuff that i was like i don't know if i'm gonna be able to get this on the plane
this bag uh is from uh like the bookstore chapters in halifax just gave it to me oh because they're
like well we don't know how else you're gonna get this home wow so i uh wanted to do a little
show and tell and this isn't even all the stuff now describe this too because we do have people
listening yeah you so you showed this last time yeah but i'm showing it again because i really
like it uh so shelburne engraving i believe it's in picto uh nova scotia home of ken reed
gave me this incredible thing thank you jesse there's uh me with the gentleman who uh who
carved this for me i think it was with a laser but it is uh there you go descriptive sound for
all the listeners um it's a piece of wood with uh both my book covers on it but it looks like
a book i don't know where i'm gonna hang that but i'm gonna hang it somewhere in the blue room
because i think it's really cool and i love it a lot maybe i'll hang it in the main basement
um so that my kids know how smart i am because i uh you know pass things down and then i'll
throw well so here's the thing i put things in this box too oh okay there we go so a lot of what
i got was hockey cards and i wanted to show some of the more incredible ones uh because some of
them i think are you know how there's reprints of old cards this is daryl sitler signed in cooper
all's philadelphia flyers cool and it like signed in this person very clearly said hey daryl and
handed it to him so there you go i can show those off um we obviously can't take too brutal that he
ever had to play there i'm so mad at this one is and it looks authentically signed because there's
like a smudge on it and everything willio re oh wow oh my yeah yeah yeah so like again i didn't
get enough backstory because we had to had to um like i don't know move through the line this is
Devin Cornwoye signed.
Again, this is all frigging ridiculous.
Yeah, but he's a Montreal player.
Yeah, you know what?
I changed my mind.
Throw it away.
Connor Timmons rookie card.
I just think that's very funny.
That is funny.
This is ridiculous.
Teammates.
It's game-worn pieces of jersey.
Johnny Bauer, Frank Mohavlich, Dave Keon, Red Kelly.
Numbered to 10.
What?
I don't even know how valuable.
This is one of the rarest pieces of memorabilia I've ever seen, and the guy just handed it to me.
He didn't want to get it back?
Nope.
And if he did, you snooze to lose.
No, I'm kidding.
He just handed it to me.
Whoa.
Because it's a big, like, Navy place, obviously, it's on the Atlantic Ocean, I got, and these people didn't know each other.
They were at different spots in the line.
a patch from i believe that's the hmcs halifax and the hmcs toronto the halifax has a is that
a blue jay yeah it looks like i think it's a blue jay uh on the uh front and a beaver
on the hs hmcs stands for his majesty's canadian ship thank you adam
his hms is his majesty's ship would you have gotten that no um here i don't need to go through
all the hockey cards we don't have time uh mitch marner morgan riley matt fratton yanni hawkenpaw
as a duck mccabe lying down bob gainey dave taylor gilbert perot borya salming um and i wanted to
highlight this one card because someone got me a pack of ohl cards oh i thought it was very funny
because uh i said listen drew bannister just got fired he played in the zoo he coached in the zoo
Kyle Dubas, come on
down. And that night I opened this pack of
cards and it's Drew Bannister
from the
Sault Ste. Marie Greyhound.
Wanted to show that off.
Victoria
Bach autograph
Toronto, back
when it was Toronto PWHL.
And it's related to
the Genevieve Francis
Memorial Fund. The
Genevieve Francis Memorial Fund established
in 2022.
through the Ulnueg Indigenous Communities Foundation
aims to provide support to sport, recreation,
and physical activity opportunities
for indigenous women and girls in Atlantic Canada.
And this letter is associated with that one.
That letter is associated with it.
You can tell I obviously just threw stuff in the bag.
And this pin came with it as well.
This is a cross stitch with a Zamboni in it
that says if you're a goaltender
TEND THE GOAL
it's a cross stitch I love that
very cool
it's like Christmas
this is Christmas
someone gave me a Gilmore jersey and I wore that
that's actually what you see in that photo
here put it
there it is
and I want to say
can we go through the photos
because I don't remember each
and every person
Yeah, I got to meet a few dogs on my journey.
These photos are all from the Halifax.
Remember, describe it for audio.
Describe it for audio.
Okay, okay, okay.
So this person is holding up their...
Is that like a red golden retriever, I think?
They're holding them up off the ground
and they are licking my face.
It's very funny.
You run it, Adam.
Next up.
You run it.
Is that a red-tipped golden retriever?
It's a golden retriever.
You know what it is?
It's an invitation to kiss my ass.
He's trying to describe the dog for people listening.
Come on.
Sorry, just picture a dog.
There you go.
Picture a dog.
I'm supporting you in your decision to describe the dog.
There you go.
That's fair.
All right.
Here, go to the next one.
This is me with the two lovely individuals who gave me the 10, the goal cross stitch.
It's so cool.
So cool.
Adam, you got a problem with this one?
Oh, I love this cross-stitch.
You got a problem?
It's a terrible photo of me.
You think it's dumb?
Yeah.
Yeah.
No, Steve, you idiot.
All right, next.
This is, again, the gentleman who gave me the cross-stitch.
I like this one.
I signed the mug of Jesse that just says no,
and I thought you would appreciate that
because you keep signing my book even though you didn't read it.
Yeah, you signed a me mug when I signed your book.
Yeah.
That's funny.
You know, that's our highest-selling item in our store all the time.
I believe it.
I believe it.
it's easily the best one i have two or three are you kidding uh this is someone with a home
hardware shirt i just i don't know for some reason i thought it was funny what hey listen
it's home hardware buddy help me close to home help us close to home uh this is a young gentleman
who got me to sign this book um i i'm not entirely sure i think this woman might have gave me the
gilmore jersey i'm not entirely sure but she was very early on and she just goes can i give you a
hug no and i went yeah of course like you're wearing the jersey so when you got it did you
immediately throw it on yes okay and okay so it was like the third person in line i can't i can't
remember if it was this woman or not i'm so sorry i met so many people and i got about five people
down the line and i was like i have made an error and i was so sweaty by the end of the night this
This guy gave me two stuffies, stuffed animals or whatever, for the Halifax Moosehead.
So they have two mascots.
They have Mac the Moose and Hal.
I don't know what Hal is.
He's like some sort of...
I don't know.
He is yellow and fun.
That is how I would describe him.
Yellow and fun.
Hal the...
But they have a moose one.
This is cool.
Yes.
Like a good moose mascot.
Mac.
um this is ah perfect this is me signing um photos or not photos uh drawings that people
made of us adam this is you hold it up for the class oh man look at that
so if anybody listening it's like when you're in a park and they do the yeah i'm gonna do that
goofy drawing of you drawing it's a caricature yeah this is so cool i love this john kennedy
adam it's more things to put in our office how stoked are you
i love so happy about that art i'm down this is so good oh this is i just opened this in one of
the packs it is brian glinn um he's the only nhl player i've ever seen with the last name glinn
is he related to you he is not related to me but i want one of his jerseys uh he played for
the Hartford Whalers. If anyone has a Brian
Glenn jersey out there,
let me know. And the last
thing that I wanted to highlight,
Adam, don't worry. The war is
almost over. No, no.
So, there was a miscommunication
the first night.
Basically, this person drove 45 minutes
to be there, and then they were told they couldn't get
a signed book. What?
It was a miscommunication.
They should have been allowed in.
It's okay.
because do we need to fight someone well i reached out to them okay uh they happen to be going to a
birthday party with their daughters the next day so they they uh drove all the way to my hotel
with their wife and daughters um and i got to meet them and sign their books and in return
they gave me their jersey uh which has the uh their twitter handle on the back of it oh it is
a 69
Snizdaddy jersey.
Hell yeah, Snizdaddy.
Dangle, thanks for being such
a beauty. Congrats on all
of your success.
Thank you. I can't read it from this far.
This is from Chad
aka Snizdaddy69.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
Dudes rock. Kudos to you for
going all the way out and
reaching back out and getting them to get a book
and all that stuff. That's good stuff.
Well, let me, let me just say this. So they originally, I think, I think it was the Halifax, uh, chapters, not the Dartmouth Indigo that was like, Hey, what are the odds we could get him out here? And my publicist brought it to me with like, Hey, you probably wouldn't want to do this. Right. And I went, well, actually I would. Um, I checked flights and they were, they were cheaper than I thought. Um, and then the publisher offered to pay for it. I was like, well, then forget it. You pay for it.
on the way yeah but the amount of people who were like thank you for coming out here no one ever
comes out here oh you're clueless like if if you're not going out to the east coast you are
frigging clueless i'm not talking about tourism or anything i'm talking about if you need to get
your your book or whatever it is in front of people that they were like hey um we haven't
had a book signing like this since chris hadfield wow who's an astronaut you're talking about
content creators and brands who are trying to sell stuff that the east coast is important yes
if you're not serving the east coast you're out of your mind how many hours did you spend
selling or uh i signed but between the the two days of signing i signed for somewhere between
seven and eight hours standing the whole time which actually helped my back and um i met four
500 people like just rough estimate people drove from two to five hours away i met people from
fredericton um people from cape breton people from prince edward island who paid the bridge fee
um to be there which is 50 bucks uh to cross uh that bridge um you are absolutely absolutely out
of your friggin mind if you don't visit the east coast the the anecdote i always tell the the guys
who made uh the the lfr theme aberdeen oh there we go our buddy i don't i didn't know what you
were doing an impression of i got to the end of it and there it is so uh aberdeen uh they were
having difficulty getting booked uh in toronto because there's just so much shit and there's
tons of bands clamoring for those spots they went to the east coast on tour being like i don't know
let's just go out to some location and see what happens.
They sold out of merch by the second day.
No one knew who they were.
They just decided to come in.
I was at their Halifax show.
That's right.
I met them there when I was working there.
And was it packed or what?
It was packed and nobody knew who they were,
but they were like, there's a band here, we're going.
Yeah, you're out of your mind if you don't serve the East Coast.
And the East Coast is not just Halifax.
Yes, Newfoundlanders, I hear you.
Yeah, listen, a lot of people have asked us.
We get a ton of requests to go there.
We get a ton of requests to go Alberta, B.C.
And we want to do that.
Flying within Canada is outrageously expensive because of our stupid laws about it.
And it's got to make it's not that it wouldn't make financial sense, but we have to like
we have to figure out like what kind of disruption that would be.
And also, let's be honest, Steve and his wife just did just have a baby.
Well, we're in a year past like a year or two.
Then it's like, yeah, yeah, it's a little.
It's a lot easier once they cross the two- to three-year-old threshold.
My wife was not pregnant when I agreed to write this book.
Right.
So that night.
I might not have agreed to write it.
I'm kidding.
Had I had that information, I probably wouldn't have written it,
but now I've written it, and this is, no,
this is a very busy year of my life, and it's a unique one,
and it will not be repeated, and that's okay.
Yeah.
That's okay.
now jesse do we want to save the the thing you were going to talk about some of the platform
stuff for monday's show or do you want to do it now uh sure we can do it now you want to do it
now save it yeah i don't know what well because i because here's the thing we were talking about
this a little bit we had a meeting before the show and we were talking about like hey i don't
know if people understand the membership benefits thing all that much we talk about subs uh you know
we talk about it on the streams a lot and that sort of thing but there are different subscription
tiers membership tiers that you can belong to on youtube and there is one on spotify and one on
apple because they don't allow you to have tiers it's just one yeah so um yeah our sdp vip is
available on apple spotify and youtube and if you're not aware sdp vip allows you to get an
extra episode of the steven angle podcast what you're listening to right now a week you get one
episode uh thursday at midnight it usually drops uh so we would have just had one drop last night
And you also get access to the show ad-free if you are on that tier on YouTube, and you also get it ad-free on the regular tier because there is only one tier, as Adam just said, on Apple and Spotify.
But because the platforms are truncated and they're different on each platform, you get different little perks with each one.
So on YouTube, there's the SDP VIP where you're just getting the extra episode a week.
But that also allows you to, during our live streams, you get little emojis next to your name.
And then also on, if you just leave a comment on any of our regular videos, you get a little identifier and we'll know like you're an SDP VIP member.
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But there's also some drawbacks to YouTube because it doesn't allow you to watch the VIP episode or the ad-free video in the background on your phone.
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Because Spotify, and it's on a separate feed entirely, if you are listening on Spotify right now and you're like, I want to be an SDP VIP member, how do I do that?
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fun stuff that we don't usually get to do on this yeah we did a little bit of on the
costco boys and holding space uh costco guys costco guys how dare you all right it was fun
that was a great episode i love that couldn't believe it it was wild uh and then by the way
that the best part too about the the vip stuff too is like the comments underneath is everybody
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platform you're listening to when we're coming to you on the vip episode it's kind of like our own
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answer questions there all the time more than on the regular show yes exactly you know and we get
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where you want to listen or watch so yeah so that's i think that's all i had do we want to
do a press conference or we are we at time we can do a quick one if you want to do a quickie yeah
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richer than you think. There was the Steve Dangle press conference. I did forget to mention two
gifts that i got because i couldn't bring them uh i walked in to the halifax chapters on the first
night hungry i was going to go to the starbucks that was in the store and a guy hands me a donair
oh he bought me a donair hey i figured you'd be hungry and he hands it to me and i'm
mucked the thing oh that's awesome absolutely by the way how the moose heads mascot uh there is a
thread in our halifax on reddit about it from 19 days ago and nobody knows what hal is
what how the mascot they're not really sure so the other one was um yeah they know what that is
how is the qmjhl version of of gritty like i think that's oh okay that's the i think that's the
that's the little bit of up a little bit of up big eyes and all that yeah yeah um and then sorry
next day not to be outdone um someone was like hey i baked these cookies and banana bread for you
Oh, sick.
And I mucked that too.
That didn't pay for a thing.
That didn't make it home.
No.
That did not make it home.
That didn't make it out of the store.
Jesse, what do we got?
Small note, next Wednesday,
the Four Nations face-off rosters are being announced.
So we're going to have something out of that on Friday
when we're talking about all the rosters.
They're announcing at 2 p.m. Sweden and Finland
and then Canada-USA at 6.30 p.m.
so we can't do it next Wednesday's episode
because we're going to record before that,
but I guess we'll have to save it for Friday.
Oh, God.
Are you guys anticipating the Four Nations?
What are your thoughts on it?
Are you excited?
I'm ready.
I'm very excited.
I am actually.
I'm not excited that this management group for Canada
seems hell-bent on making bad decisions already.
Like, I'm already like,
oh, you guys are going to fuck this up.
Like, I don't feel good about it.
I can't wait till they win.
The roster's not even out.
I can't wait till they win.
Well, and you know what?
Here's the deal.
They should,
but team usa is going to be better this year uh team sweden is outrageously good as well uh but
i'm just worried it's such a canada thing to be like no let's leave this superstar off the roster
and we'll take role player and that will be good as though superstar players haven't played roles
before in other leagues and i think um i'm concerned about that i this feels i the way
that they're i'm hearing it it's sounding a little bit canada at the torino olympics what
are you what are you gonna say when they win i'm gonna say i was wrong and i'm happy to be so
i'm ready for that good i'm ready hater if they pick who i think they're picking i'm gonna be
real mad chris taniff there's one guy i'm not no chris taniff they should pick but i think they'll
go with him bouchard are you talking about tom wells no no who are you talking about i'm not
gonna tell you what you're peace am i gonna say it why because why is it a secret because it's
actually bends forward to secrecy so i can't oh but yeah if there's a guy that we think there's
a thing i'll listen i got all week next week to talk about it's true i got all friday show to
talk about it a week from today adam reveals yep who he's mad at um other hockey news and notes
Today marks the first meeting between the Calgary Flames and Columbus Blue Jackets since the Goudreau brothers passing.
It happens at 3 p.m. in the afternoon, so it's not recording before that.
But I think for their next meeting that happens in Calgary, they're hosting the entire Goudreau family that day.
But I assume we're going to see some sort of pregame ceremony and more talk about the brothers' passing and celebrating them today, this afternoon, during that game.
So I just wanted to get that out there.
And maybe we'll come back on Monday if there's some things we can play from that, from the game that happens today.
And then the other thing, last thing, Rantanen wants $14 million.
Yep.
And Marner probably does too.
Are we worried?
Are we worried about Marner?
Are we worried Rantanen setting a bar at 14, let's say he gets it, bumps up Mitch Marner?
Here's the thing.
If you were to trade Mikko Rantanen and Mitch Marner straight up, who won the trade?
The team getting Rantanen.
The team who got the well over a point a game playoff performer with the Stanley Cup.
And who has twice hit over 100 points.
Mikko Rantanen is one of the most underrated players in the league.
If Mikko Rantanen is at $14 million, that might set the bar and bring the martyr camp into reality.
Because, you know, their whole thing is they like a big number first.
That's fine.
I get that.
That's negotiation.
Here's the plan.
I'm not talking about the martyr contract that much.
No, we are.
I want 30 minutes on it.
I'm going to die.
You want this to be a short show?
Forget that nonsense.
No, no.
This is very short. Abandon
optimism.
How thematic with
this time in our lives. You want them?
You want them?
All right. Pay for
them. There it is.
It's that simple.
I think the Leafs simply cannot spend
that much. What number
is the too much number?
I think anything
beyond 12-5.
I think 12-5 is the number. Do you let them walk?
I would hate to.
I would hate to.
I would really hate it.
But like, listen, you want to be here and you want to win.
Being here means, and by the way, you can't sign him before the playoffs.
No.
Even though I freaking love the way he's played.
You want to be here and you want to play with these guys.
You can't, you can't make more than that.
We have other players we need to sign.
So at a certain point, there has to be some give.
and and you could argue matthews already gave a little bit people don't see it that way i don't
know because it's not an eight-year deal people are like well he didn't give i'm like you guys
you're missing the point part of the reason they're being compared isn't just their ufas the
same year it's ranton and making more than mckinnon is a kind of a crazy concept and marner
making more than matthews or as much as matthews is a crazy concept both of them are robin marner
is robin ranton and his robin matthews and mckinnon batman you robin can't make more than
batman but uh robin has agents both robins and they're trying they're trying to get more money
yeah i i would just you know martyrs he wants to be here even if he makes less than matthews
If he gets too close to that number, it's too much.
No, we're talking about Mitch Marner.
No, we've got to wrap this show.
Guys, we're talking about Mitch Marner.
So in order to do that, we forgot about the thing that we've got to do
every time we talk about Mitch Marner.
Don't be pissy.
I'm not being pissy.
Here, wait.
He's a really good guy.
He's a really good teammate.
Everyone loves him.
He's really good.
Okay.
Now that we've done that, he's going to ask for a lot of money,
as good players do.
um and what was the conversation that we had earlier this show sam reinhardt makes what
eight point six two dollars fuck a duck
so like i just i keep waiting for our sam reinhardt and it doesn't have to be eight
million we're not you're not asking for that but if marner signed let's say marner signs
Is it what Nylander signed for?
Let's say he does eight years at 11 and a half.
Mitch Marner is instantly the king of Toronto.
Oh, dude.
He's going to have a parade just thrown in his honor.
At the beginning of last season, if Nylander's number was 11-5,
I would have thrown a fit.
And then he was one of the best players in the league.
What's Mitch Marner been this season?
One of the best players in the league.
One of the best damn players in the league.
Yeah, clip that part.
I just badly want a player to take a discount,
but abandon optimism that's why dude that's why i haven't talked about it because mitch marner's
so much more fun to talk about when you don't talk about any of that shit yeah and that shit
is extremely important that's why we talk about that shit but until then elevator music and i'm
watching the games hooray i'm i'm turning on whatever you hear at your dentist office
and going wowie goals i picked him in fantasy this year because i knew he'd go the fuck off
and what's he doing going the fuck off i've got another half an hour in me the contract entirely
depends on playoff success it does like it does for me a lot of the things i'm reading about
marner right now are mute because he's had awesome novembers before he's had awesome
october through april's it is about what he does in the playoffs here so they're probably just
going to sit on this contract until you see what this team does with the core and then we have
another kick at it this season because everything was on the table and they decided to do nothing
on the table so we're going to see again and now one guy again his contract is due and we're going
to have an answer once they do something the playoffs last thing i promise when marner got
that amount in 2019 the number one argument was well the cap is going to go up so the contract
should age well the cap didn't go up because the world stopped and fucked that whole thing
now the criticism since then has been the leafs didn't adjust their plan which they didn't and
they actively decided to not adjust their plan in the moment someone suggested adjusting their plan
they fired that person who has then gone on to a promotion with another company and it's going
terribly a sideways promotion where he also took his old job as well as the new job just the
weirdest damn thing the weirdest damn thing i wish we would talk about how damn weird that damn thing
is steve i'm gonna make you manager of this new clothing store but you also got to work the cash
still yeah and also it's your decision to work the also you decided hold on is he working in radio
yeah so here wait wait wait now he's coming up again and the cap is supposed to go up again
so is this a mulligan yes is this the chance for the leafs to give their star all his star money
and then guess what the cap is going to go up exponentially over the next few years and they're
fine it i choose to believe that this year it won't the world won't end again yeah like i i
think as as much as you want to detract against betman and he promises things and things don't
happen i i think this time it's undeniable that the cap is going to go up uh by a significant
and betman wants it to go up because it's going to make the franchise value that he sells to
houston and atlanta really expensive yeah so yeah no no i then he signs for uh 15 mil for eight
years and like the next
day you see a news report
about like covid
potatoes and the world
gets shut down and the
Leafs are fucked yeah no
I think I think it'll be
okay I look at I look at
the the Marner stuff and
I just don't want to talk
about it yet no I want to
talk about how fucking
good he's been yeah he's
been unreal so let's wrap
I know I want to talk
about it for two hours
every day I want to kick
your ass if we were smart
if we were smart business
people which we're not we
would talk about only
Mitch Marner contract I
know I'm gonna get on a
Why don't we become one of those AI-generated YouTube NHL videos that only post things in caps lock?
There's so much of that floating around now.
And it's like, Marner's next contract.
Outrageous.
And you know how many clicks that shit gets?
It gets so many clicks.
It's so stupid.
It's the most depressing goddamn thing.
I know.
Last thing we'll do.
The LA Kings have something that Adam Wilde's going to enjoy.
It's NHL Car Watch Adjacent.
Their new player of the game gets the driver of the game award,
and they are awarded a Lando Norris helmet that they have to put on.
That is because Zach Brown, CEO of McLaren, is good friends with Anze Kopitar.
Yes, so Quinton Byfield in this video receives the driver of the game award,
and he squeezes into Lando Norris' helmet.
Here's the video.
He's 6'5".
You've got to remember it.
All right, boys.
Great win.
I'm destroyed tonight.
I got to get ready for Sam's death.
You've got to remember that F1 drivers are like 5'6", 5'7", and 100 pounds.
This is easily the most disgusting player of the game award.
Easily.
Because you're just going to shoot him in the face.
You're just going to shoot him in the face.
You're just going to shoot him in the face.
easily because you're just gonna shove your sweaty head into this and then it festers for
a couple days no i'm yeah i'm sure they sanitize it fuck off oh and then the next game someone else
has to shove their sweaty head into it and like he sounded sick in that video there like he had
the helmet on for 0.02 seconds because of how uncomfortable he was in that damn helmet i would
never have been able to put that on he should have gave that speech he did in the helmet no
I think that driver of the game is a lot of fun.
Yeah, it's very cool.
Is it better or worse than hard chain?
Hard chain is still funnier.
No, hard chain is number one of one.
Is it better or worse than Leafs championship belt?
That is one of one.
Except every team has a championship belt.
Rank them.
Oh, shit.
Oh, my God, Jesse.
Just rank them.
Rank them.
I hate to say it.
Hard Helmet Chain.
Wow.
Or belt, sorry.
Hard Helmet Belt.
Damn.
You hate the Leafs.
And Marner.
And your favorite player.
If you were to win one of those.
And your mom's cooking.
Wouldn't you want to win the belt?
If you're the one receiving it, I think the belt's the best.
Wrap it up, Adam.
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