The Steve Dangle Podcast - Ryan | November 23, 2018

Episode Date: November 24, 2018

On this episode, Will Will sign with the Leafs tonight?!? (00:00), are gamers athletes? (19:30), Steve Dangle HOSTED Tim and Sid yesterday!!! (27:00), the Ottawa Senators traded Chris Weidman (39:00),... Eugene Melnyk and the LeBreton flats (42:00), Milan Lucic and the Edmonton Oilers have a new line (59:30), and the press conference: Stanley Cup parades and back to the future hockey. (1:29:00). Originally aired: November 23, 2018 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/8y0RkKZR0dQ Merch: https://teespring.com/en-GB/stores/fancydangleshirts Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Subscribe to us on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/steve-dangle-podcast/id669828195?mt=2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'd like to start today's show with a passage from a guy named Carl Smallwood no relation to Jake in Smallwood this is oh this is this is a guy named Carl the Smallwood clan knows no bounds they have a bad tavern no he does not said while While playing Rollercoaster Tycoon one time, I remember that I was tasked with the mission of getting a higher approval rating than the park next door. Rather than make my park better, I instead built a rollercoaster that launched people at 100 miles an hour into my rival's park. Since technically these people died in my rival's park, their approval rating would plummet and people would rush to my park and straight onto my death coaster, which caused their rating to drop lower and lower. I did this for an hour until the game said I'd won. And ladies and gentlemen, that is why I can never have any modicum of power.
Starting point is 00:01:03 Okay. I thought you were going to find a way to, like, I definitely thought Eugene Melnick was getting brought up in that. I kept going, all right, how does this relate to the sense? Well, I tried, actually, but I was like, I don't know. How can I work Eugene into this? And I just realized that I couldn't because, like, I don't even know what's going on there. I don't think Eugene knows what's going on there. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:01:22 I don't think that was written by Carl. That seems like something Jesse would do. Yeah, it does. Well, here's the thing with this show. We know we're starting the show at 4 o'clock. We know there's a very good chance that by the end of the show, we're going to have some sort of update on William Nylander. Because of insider Ryan Lacey of Columbus, Ohio.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Do we know he's from Columbus? Have we confirmed that? He had a Blue Jackets jacket, or a jacket, a sweater. Well, and there's no Blue Jackets fans outside of Columbus. That'd be silly. That'd be ridiculous. It would be a little much. So he must be from Columbus, Ohio.
Starting point is 00:01:53 Yeah, and he must be ready to rock for tonight's game, you know, Because for those about to rock. Freddie. Wham! Please. Please be good. Please be the best. Or Sparky.
Starting point is 00:02:04 I don't care. I do want to thank everybody who sent me the TSN link. I guess they were musing on TSN radio this week about William Nylander for Brandon Sod. That's a troll, right? Like, they're just trolling you. I think so. Yeah. Do you think TSN is taking time out of their schedule to troll me personally?
Starting point is 00:02:21 Bob McKenzie He got into like a Like a huddle with Ray Ferraro Jeff O'Neal Jeff O'Neal and Gordon Miller Alright boys here's the play Text Pierre Messed with Adam
Starting point is 00:02:35 We're gonna do it Is that Do you think that's what happened? I think that's exactly what happened There it is So but what we do know is this Mike Babcock last night said That they were missing some pieces
Starting point is 00:02:45 Plural And that they would definitely be back Prominent pieces And they would definitely back Plural And you were on Tim and Sid last night I was and I was hoping we'd get the Nylander Trader signing and close
Starting point is 00:02:57 Chris Weidman You got an even bigger deal Man I'm glad we got anything It's only a 90 minute show What are the odds that a trade is going to break During that show And also the experience in general Starting with the fact that they even asked
Starting point is 00:03:15 I do want to save the Weidman stuff But firstly Nylander we could get it in an hour so an hour into the show we could know maybe less but in the meantime what do you think the chances are that anything actually happens tonight this is more real chatter than i think we've heard in weeks it is and it's weird because it seems to have sort of started with the lacy stuff um and okay it really kind of started with the babcock stuff last night right you did but like that so i said this on tim and sid which is a that's just a silly way to start a sentence but i i said this on tim and sid the leafs have for a while now been trying this
Starting point is 00:03:53 talking it into existence thing this positive energy and you know i i had heard that you know uh when the leafs were heading out on the road for game five i think it was against boston or whatever it was the you know the uh people who worked at scotia bank arena or i guess at the time were like hey we'll see you in a couple days right so they're trying to talk game six into existence and it worked and they tried to talk game sevens and into existence so maybe it's babcock trying to talk a deal into existence but lacy tweets this today and all of a sudden bob mckenzie tweets something and got the chatter going and we might actually have a kneelander thing today it would be really really nice to get this off our plate jesse and i uh
Starting point is 00:04:42 When I picked Jesse up at the GO train station here in Oshawa, he said, I'm so excited not to talk about this. And I said, yeah, because we have to talk about Marner for the next few months. We know that Matthews is basically done. Or at least that's been speculated on. It's basically done. Marner and Paul Marner, his father, are going to be the ones that we hear about a lot now. Oh, dads.
Starting point is 00:05:03 Dads are great. Now, I'm not saying Paul Marner is a bad guy. I don't know anything about Paul Marner. No, no, no. It'll just be his dad. His dad will play into this. Yeah, it's all just anticipation. um i'm the one thing i'm disappointed on from tim and sid is we almost got marner and i wanted to
Starting point is 00:05:19 just be like listen mitch you know we we just want you to have fun we just want you to relax we're not gonna talk shop or anything like like sid and i off air we were just talking about like like what would you do with 10 million dollars you know that's all i wanted to ask him so bad and he wasn't he wasn't able to do it it didn't work out in terms of time and i probably would have never been asked back so maybe it's a good thing well you know what i think you got to shoot your shot you get a chance like that you got to go for it come on yeah you gotta do it um you have a chance to ask a really uncomfortable question on national television you gotta do it uh i just i'm wondering here um if if william nylander gets done let's just speculate jesse do you too oh can't
Starting point is 00:06:02 wait let's speculate is it a long-term or short-term deal long jesse what do you think bridge you think it's a bridge are you just saying that to be different no it's been too long for it not to be a bridge if it's gonna be oh he signed for 6.8 in seven years and what everybody said it should have been this would have been done four months ago so i think at this point it's got to be something different that just gets it done so he doesn't have to be traded or sit out a year is there any deal he signs that you would be unhappy with uh what does that deal look like above 7.5 like they were they were talking hockey central at noon yesterday like what if it's seven and a quarter yeah whatever who cares yeah no no i want it to be seven really it's 250 000
Starting point is 00:06:49 that's half of a fourth line player 80 million dollar cap and growing like that and that's what you're upset about plus i don't know the exact math on this but if he signs for seven and a quarter let's say over six years or seven years um with the with how the cap will play out it'll be a huge cap hit this year but the savings might bring it down to like seven and what he's not worth a penny more than david poster knock it's not how it works man it's not how it works also poster next deal is ridiculous in the same way the dry sidles is a little bit ridiculous and I think it gets done somewhere in the middle
Starting point is 00:07:31 which would be right around 725 Jesse what would it be for you? You'd be upset 725 in four years is freaking dope What deal would make me upset? What would make you go ah I don't like this. This feels bad 8. Yeah 8 for sure Yeah I think
Starting point is 00:07:49 Steve nailed it with above 7.5 It would kill me. A one year deal I don't think that's there's no chance to it Well, I hope not, but that would kill me. How short of a bridge would make you upset? It's got to be at least three. It's got to be three years.
Starting point is 00:08:05 I'd be comfortable with three. Yeah. Yeah. That's the thing that, like, you know, people talk about two-year deals or whatever. First off, he's never going to sign a two-year deal. His agent would not be doing due diligence if he signed a two-year deal. Yeah. Three-year deal is great, and I feel like a three-year deal is fine, but I would rather
Starting point is 00:08:20 overpay for him now while they're tight against the cap because seven years from now, when that when that deal is still happening and he's in his prime years seven million dollars isn't going to be that much against the cap anymore guys well and like okay so i hate the eight million number and i think it's too high really well but then i was thinking about like okay man in like three years yeah he's gonna be i i don't think it's far-fetched that he becomes an eight million dollar player but dude do you want to win it still goes back to that just save that little bit of extra money that's why i say 725 because now that you've waited so long it is basically a seven million dollar cap it i think that's what it ends up being can i guarantee it will be 7.4
Starting point is 00:09:07 two for four years that's what your guess is with a no movement clause do you have something i thought you were reading off twitter no no that's my guarantee before it goes live Let's call it what do you think it is That's it 7.24 7.42 For four years Which was
Starting point is 00:09:31 Seven years 725 And I'm going to go four years 69 Like Mark Savard said because it's a nice number That is pretty nice And also Mark Savard did tweet Do you believe Mark Savard's tweet from last night Which said 6.9 million dollars gets the deal done No
Starting point is 00:09:47 I think that was just him Was he trolling I mean, it read like it. I don't know. Okay, if he is... Want me to text? Yeah, text. Can you text him?
Starting point is 00:09:58 I'm going to text him. Yeah, text him. Let's find out. Because I would like to know if he was being serious about it. And he said, my insider will remain nameless. Because he's too smart of a man to reveal his name. No, text him. Just text him.
Starting point is 00:10:11 No, I know, but it's... Is his insider too smart of a man to reveal his name? I assume so. Is he committed to the truth? I think he's all about the truth Whoa He and Rumor Break All about the truth
Starting point is 00:10:27 Are you still blocked? No because Rumor Break died and then restarted Remember? I think Rumor Break has died Twice now And then his friend logs onto his account every time And goes hey sorry Rumor Break died but he really loved you guys Rumor Break died for your sins
Starting point is 00:10:46 Rumor Break is Super Mario he's not dying it's the same guy he's probably 48 in his bedroom but the account said he died and then his friend joey logged on because he knew the password he's the one guy that knew rumor break knew him personally and you're gonna regret making fun of him wild you're gonna regret it imagine breaking your own death well i mean okay maybe we it's getting dark uh what did uh what did savvy say uh nothing yet and i assume he won't respond what did you say does he have his red receipts on no i don't know i don't know if he does i'm always surprised people who have the red receipts on are ballsy oh yeah i turned that off there's just some people who don't know
Starting point is 00:11:40 like nick kiprios probably has them on because he doesn't know you can turn them off remember Remember when we saved Rogers thousands of dollars? That's exactly what I'm talking about. Literally thousands of dollars. Because every tweet that was tweeted in the universe came through to Nick Kiprios' phone via notification. Yeah. And he didn't know. Imagine the replies Nick Kiprios gets on a daily basis.
Starting point is 00:12:02 So Nick Kiprios, for those of you who don't know the story, Jesse just told you most of it. But he came on the show and his phone was at 100%. At the beginning of the episode. At the beginning of the episode. It was buzz, buzz, buzz, buzz. An hour and a half later, he was at, like, half. And he had not checked it. And it's because he got notifications for everything.
Starting point is 00:12:24 Every app on your phone, he didn't know how to turn off the notifications. Every reply, every mention, every like and retweet, every follow. Like, do you know how much money in data? Because Rogers, I'm sure, pays for his phone. Oh, yeah. We literally saved that company money That day They're the reasons that the Blue Jays will be able to re-sign
Starting point is 00:12:47 Vladimir Guerrero in a few years when he needs it Oh my goodness We cut down on his phone's carbon footprint It died It died from Notifications I've never seen that and I tweet all day How did he know when he's getting a call or a text
Starting point is 00:13:04 Because he wouldn't be able to differentiate How did we get a hold of him to do the show I don't know he managed it though somehow he waded his way through those notifications and found our text and came on the show he shot his way
Starting point is 00:13:17 the only way he knows how with his knuckles and he brought a case of his water arm that's how he responds yeah I'll come on the show just punched just stares at his phone threateningly and it's like alright I got it I gotta pick up almond milk at the grocery store
Starting point is 00:13:37 Like, he just threatens the phone into writing a grocery list. So, I have a question for you. Is Tyler Ennis more valuable than William Nylander? Did you see that? Yeah, but I agree with it. Who ever said that? Who said that? The hockey writers?
Starting point is 00:13:51 I guess the idea is that per capita, based on what William Nylander's perceived value is, is Tyler Ennis a more valuable player per capita. Are we talking about population? Like a dollar. Not capita, but like... Pound for pound! Pound for pound Is Mighty Mouse better than Anderson Silva
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yep So he'd win Relative to what he makes I don't think that's how it works You know how many actually bros we're about to get Actually bro See that flying arm bra Arm bra
Starting point is 00:14:25 Flying arm bras Yeah I would really love to see William Nylander back 50 minutes from right now We'll know for sure can we we should probably read the actual tweet from ryan lacy he said at five o'clock oh yeah okay so if you didn't see this a guy tweets out a picture of him with kyle dubas this morning a guy who is now famous and he said he said basically this is columbus by the way this is your dark guy
Starting point is 00:14:49 yeah like easily this is his dark guy moment his show is laces out with ryan lacy that's really good we didn't know who he was and now we know who he is like that okay is are the columbus blue jackets blue jackets popular enough to even have a dart yet yes like are there enough people in columbus who care for them to make him a thing according to things like more leaf fans care about ryan than actual blue jackets fans well because it's so silly that like he's like that it's even a thing so ryan lacey today says breaking just spoke with maple leaf's gm kyle dubas and asked where they stand on William Nylander. His response was,
Starting point is 00:15:33 I'll have an update by 5 p.m. Something tells me a resolve in the Nylander situation is close. Noah Love, and this is from about 20 minutes ago. He's got 1,100 likes. Wow, just 70 minutes until we find out if some random kid on the streets of Columbus is a Toronto legend.
Starting point is 00:15:51 It's true! It's true! Absolutely true. He will be a hero. He'll be trending. Ryan Lacey. Oh, man. We'd have to have him on.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I wish we had our phone system in. I would be like, let's get him on the podcast. And it comes out that he's rumor break. And he's risen from the dead because he's the Jesus of hockey Twitter. From the future. Jesus part three. I wish we could have him on. What?
Starting point is 00:16:16 Rumor break? No, Ryan. Ryan Lacey? Yeah, I would too. I was just trying to sit here and think of a way we could do it. We said the same thing. You see. Ryan break.
Starting point is 00:16:24 Ryan break. Ryan break. Ryan, see? Yeah, it's a lot. Anyway. I'd love to I'd love to have mine I wonder
Starting point is 00:16:32 at the moment it'll change do you think his tweet is laced with the truth I think it is I think it's got some soul to it I think he's telling
Starting point is 00:16:42 the truth there's no way he could be Ryan shoe joke I mean the arch support is there I'm trying
Starting point is 00:16:52 to scratch his shoe joke shoe joke does he have the platform So you're still going. He's really lack soul, Adam. I already made that joke.
Starting point is 00:17:05 Sorry, I'll have to cut out my tongue then. That's good. That's really good. I like that one. I was going to make a tongue joke too, so well done. I thought I dipped my toe in. Mike Babcock said today, he clarified a little bit, Chris Johnston asked him, and Mike kind of laughed and said, well, I'm hopeful.
Starting point is 00:17:22 Confident and hopeful. Confident and hopeful. And he said, Willie's a good player. He's a good player. You say he's a good person, good teammate, loves hockey. He loves hockey. Loves hockey. What does that mean?
Starting point is 00:17:32 Do you think Mike Babcock is trolling the Toronto media? I think he's humoring the Toronto media because he doesn't know what to say. It must be fun for him. Playing hockey? Oh. No, well, yeah, that. There must be moments with Mike Babcock because the thing is the team is really good and they are winning and they have been winning for the last two and a half years.
Starting point is 00:17:52 For Mike, it must be fun to play with these guys a little bit. yeah and i i am not really as sure i don't think babcock knows as much as people think um why would he not know that i think he would know that he'd probably be in on it and he maybe you know walks up to dubas and goes where we at and he goes ah close all right good i mean i and i think that's about it like did you hear the other day when he's like uh there's no timeline on matthews and a few people took that and went what that means he's gonna be out for much longer no it means babcock historically has no patience for injury questions because he's not a doctor and that's what he says and it's good it's at some point in recent memory like i want to say
Starting point is 00:18:39 around like 2015 it's like the word just got out around the national hockey league coaches don't you say a thing if a player is hurt shut up until he is medically cleared to come back Because if it were up to the coaches, he'd be like, you know, what are you at, like 90%? Yeah, I'm at about 90%. All right, you're in. If it was up to the coach, of course they'd be in. Well, and that's a team policy thing.
Starting point is 00:19:02 The Leafs have a thing about coaches. The coaches don't ask the player, they ask the medical staff. Is he ready? They don't go to the player because they don't want to put pressure on the player. Mike Babcock said that in multiple press conferences. He said, I do not have dialogue with the player about their injury. When they're ready, they're ready, and the medical staff tells me. So it's ridiculous to ask Babcock, hey, when's Matthews coming back?
Starting point is 00:19:22 yeah but you know his focus is on other things he has to coach the team he does have to focus on the team that's actually there yeah maybe because it was the leafs just tweeted and it's about the phase clan and fortnight and fortnight and them playing and controller or keyboard anyways oh my god that was a lot of actions per second yeah no the they're really good These professional gamers Who would have thunk it Anyone who doesn't think that's like an actual skill Like a sport
Starting point is 00:19:54 Like you do it, you try to beat them It's a skill at least Are they athletes? I don't know I wouldn't say athlete But some sort of competitor Is a professional chess player An athlete That's a tough one, like what's the cut off
Starting point is 00:20:10 Like baseball is an interesting one If you're David Ortiz I mean but he's strong and he uses hand-eye coordination and there's a lot of timing well okay this involves timing yeah it you know up almost as much running as being a designated hitter sure right yeah but okay so if you're in a strongman competition are you an athlete and your just job is to just lift things if you're an olympian and you're a weightlifter are you an athlete this is chess and gaming is really interesting that's what's screwing it up for me tennis are you an athlete
Starting point is 00:20:50 yes yes yes adam if you're a weightlifter are you an athlete i mean yeah if there's a physical element to it and there's a mental element to it so why not if you're a professional gamer are you an athlete yes because there is a physical element to it and there's a mental element to it and if It's a competition. It's a physical element. Hand eye. Hand eye. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Okay. There was a... Don't tell anybody that plays online, anything online, don't tell me that that is not really effing difficult. It's extremely hard. Like, anybody that tells you that it's not is full of shit. Don't listen to them. I won two Diamond League games and NHL 19 ones today.
Starting point is 00:21:28 And both times I went, yes! Did you really? Because I didn't expect to win. Diamond League? Diamond, uh, Diamond tier. Is that the highest? I've never played once. Yeah, well, you gotta win, you gotta win, uh, there's Tier 4, Tier 3, Tier 2, and then
Starting point is 00:21:42 there's Diamond, and then you gotta win in Diamond. And you've won twice. Today. I've, I've, I don't know, maybe played a dozen games to get there. I'm, I'm, usually money in the bank to get to Diamond, winning in Diamond is really hard. For me. Okay. And then you'll see the daily leader, it's like, he's played 49 games today and won 45
Starting point is 00:22:02 Diamond wins, and I'm like, get the f- what do you, what do you do? Like for life A how have you played 50 games today He's probably a kid he's home sick from school And his mom left him there That's no kid That's a freak No it's probably definitely a kid
Starting point is 00:22:18 I was pretty good at playing for 40 hours straight When I was 15 Which NHL was it There was one year Where I didn't have much work and I just decided I'm gonna get really good at show And I friggin destroyed it and got really good and then i lost 12 straight um didn't you get up to fourth tier or something like that
Starting point is 00:22:40 yeah no it was three it was and i just kept going and then i lost 12 straight and i just never i don't think i've played it again i think it's been three years there's a couple guys who were on the crew at bt at that time and i told them that they're like oh we're tier one yeah they were tier oneers and they would they would can't even be fun they would get in and they would like avoid playing because they didn't want to get kicked out yeah it's so hard what was the uh was a battleship battle the one you played with your clan oh uh battlefront battlefront star wars you guys got pretty good at that we got good at the first one the second one sucked because you could buy your way you could buy all these star cards that would make your player a lot better so what
Starting point is 00:23:21 the youtubers who were smart did was okay so it apparently so you the game cost like 150 bucks And then you spent like four grand To max out your cards Four thousand dollars Oh there was a huge controversy about this So these YouTubers would go in Or these rich kids Would go in and they would buy these cards
Starting point is 00:23:41 And like you would be walking around trying to earn your cards So you have to get a hundred and fifty kills For one gun upgrade And so your gun would be kicking back And it would be like missing people or whatever And you'd see these beasts come in And just fucking wreck you and and the second star wars game just it was so it had so much potential it was so well done
Starting point is 00:24:01 but except for that part and i've just i haven't played in a year i just fuck it i hate this game so much you weren't willing to just drop some cash fuck no and then they changed it then they changed it and they're like oh it's earn only but everybody else that bought their cards can keep them and then and then it was like it's earn only but we're gonna bring the stats down that like the the amount of kills so you have to do 150 kills to get like a gun upgrade um like to get like a Scope or so it wouldn't kick back or whatever and and then they lowered it to 50 after I had done all the hundred and 50 kills and I was like fuck Anybody that's played that game, you know, you know exactly what I'm talking about. It happened to me in hut
Starting point is 00:24:41 I was in tier 10, which is the The first is the one you start on I had my starter pack The highest rated player I had was like Ryan Reeves on my top line wing and some friggin child is in tier 10 with like Datsuk Bobby Orr and like Kessel and and I think they had a Pavel Buray yeah like they had an alumni yeah one of the others and of course uh believe it or not I lost believe it or not I got demolished Ryan Reeves didn't come through and character you to win I only lost by like one so that kid should be ashamed not me the grown man I'm going to yell and swear at that child like Ninja
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Starting point is 00:25:55 Steve. Yeah. Steve, can you describe one of your NHL one goals? And then we'll sell you. Okay. Ryan Reeves goals. Well, I dumped, I chased, and I slashed. And then I went.
Starting point is 00:26:11 He does the goal horn. You've never heard the Ryan Reeves goal horn? No, I never have. Okay, it's a thing. It's an awkward sound to make when you don't understand the context. so anyway we speak for all the people that don't get steve's meta jokes here comes dangle he's going into the corner and the guy in front of him laid down on the ice so the dangle tripped over him but it's okay the other guy tripped over him too dangle gets up and gets to the puck first
Starting point is 00:26:35 he makes a mad dash spinning moves spins fires cheap shot on the blocker side scores dangle dangle he's going to diamond baby he's going for the half wood half metal trophy dangle sensation sweep of the nation the slush pants bandit is back at it again with the slush pants do you have slush pants i do and the leafs too ah nice nice um okay so I'm a great player You get into Tim and Sid yesterday And you have to talk about A bunch of stuff
Starting point is 00:27:14 That's not hockey related There's no real hockey news Yeah How much are you sweating Before that Weidman trade A little Well I knew
Starting point is 00:27:22 They wanted to talk A little bit more hockey They understand My weaknesses And wanted to play To my strengths Good coaches Basketball
Starting point is 00:27:30 Is one of those things Where like I'm like I know nothing about it And then if you get me Warmed up with a couple things I'm like oh okay No I actually do know
Starting point is 00:27:38 A little bit like enough to yeah hold hard not to if you if you follow any pop culture it's hard not to know about basketball yeah i think so and then football that was useless i was used guys are making jokes about like the bears quarterback like look watch this guy and i'm like i've literally never heard of that human being i don't know who that is and then making fun of the lions guy i don't know who that is oh you know the lions are yeah sure i believe you and hey you know how the lions are so good on thanksgiving i'm like are they yeah he's all those lions how they do like i didn't know anything so when that trade finally broke you were like oh i think that was great we had
Starting point is 00:28:18 we had something extra to talk about and uh i mean it was savard says he's serious by the way he just responded did he say that what'd he say says he's dead serious we're gonna okay all right follow-up question no are they close okay one sec i gotta i gotta you you talk first okay um can we should probably read marks of ours tweet yeah i guess he said 6.9 million dollars gets it done that's what he basically said someone talked mckenzie followed up the uh 6.9 average and he said for all the 6.9 AAV on a long term deal Remember what Cap Friendly
Starting point is 00:29:03 And we were talking about last week Toronto could do a long term deal For 7 million across the board And have a much bigger cap hit this year And much lesser cap hit in the so called Out years By the way did you know that the Leafs have the Third most cap space in the league
Starting point is 00:29:19 This season They have like 16 mil right now I think still third in the NHL or fourth in the NHL and they have the third most cap space. I think they're going to be okay. They'll be fine. They're going to be okay. I mean, that changes basically as soon as the season's over.
Starting point is 00:29:37 It'll be tight. It's going to be tight, but I think they'll be okay. So, yeah, Mark Savard, you think... Farted on an art bar. What did you write back to him? I just said, close? Savvy insider? That's it. Anyway, getting back
Starting point is 00:29:53 to the real star of the show. Me! Tim and Sid! So great. Was it cool? Was it like, was it so cool? So explain, like you walk in, what do you do? I, I walk in and, uh, the pre-show meeting, which Jesse was part of for a very long time. Um, funny that you're there after he's not there. I know. I know the timing of it was terrible.
Starting point is 00:30:10 Like a week later, a week difference and it would have been there. Figures. But, um, yeah, they, uh, every, everything at the pre-show meeting sounded like it was oddly directed at me. Wow. All right. Here's how it works. Well and it should have been
Starting point is 00:30:26 Because I didn't know And yeah no it was really good Sid's like hey Come down to the cafe we'll get some lunch And I'm having chicken fingers with him Because of course I didn't even want chicken fingers But I'm like I'm with Sid Sixero It's like smoking a blunt with Snoop Dogg
Starting point is 00:30:41 You gotta do it right Does he eat that everyday He does probably No it's a thing he has a coke I think he switched to diet coke It was a coke yesterday just regular So he's off the diet Coke and chicken fingers
Starting point is 00:30:55 He has chicken fingers and fries From the cafe Every single day It's not a lot Except on days When it's like holiday And we have to work Then he goes to McDonald's
Starting point is 00:31:04 Wow And he gets his little Medicine cup Full of hot sauce Uh huh Yeah He's methodical He's a man of habit
Starting point is 00:31:11 He comes in the same day Every time Leaves same time Has the same thing for lunch Unbelievable human being And then Oh just So brilliant
Starting point is 00:31:21 And like everyone It became Pretty obvious pretty quickly if i fail it'll be my fault like they really do a good job of putting you in a position to succeed yeah sort of thing and like well that makes a good show right you have to you need that yeah and like uh they should have called it good show yeah the good show because they like you see because um and yeah i had this moment it was like either a couple minutes before or after the beginning of the show
Starting point is 00:31:51 where I was just like, oh, we're just talking. Oh, that's it. We just have to talk. It's weird how you forget that so quickly, and I'm like, I think we'll be okay. And it went so much better than I thought.
Starting point is 00:32:07 Unbelievably way better than I thought. What? I didn't have faith in myself. Leading up, in your head, I know that it was a complete disaster, and the television station would burn down. Sportsnet would be no longer existing today in Steve's head Basically I didn't want to embarrass Sportsnet nationally
Starting point is 00:32:23 If what Steve thought actually would happen Versus what happened Was always the case Earth would be gone It would be over I was by a Catholic Italian woman Eight times over Like not just once
Starting point is 00:32:37 You want to talk about anxieties Just a ball It's a good thing you can't predict the future Because it wouldn't be good no bad things happen i'd be like professor trelawney you would be like adam you're not surprised it went well like you know oh steve's gonna be on tim and sid i know it's gonna go well here's the thing yeah broadcasting is really just talking the thing that steve does is he he records himself talking on a on a camera and then edits it together and then he goes live to
Starting point is 00:33:04 tape which essentially is what this is uh meaning that we basically record the podcast it's not live per se because we're not streaming it but it basically then just gets put into a file and upload it right like i mean there's not there's a couple edits every once in a while but there's not like this is like stream of consciousness shit for two hours every two days during the week like i think you're gonna be okay for there for a five to seven minute segment yeah but how often are you like oh how about those lions you know well i noticed that i mean when we were doing sports net radio i was like uh right baseball well basketball we did really well because i crammed and there was a huge story and then there was a baseball thank god for kawaii and adam
Starting point is 00:33:44 And Adam, what do you think? Adam, because I don't know anything. How about Adam? And last night on Vince Carter, you kind of let Sid handle it, and you kind of just reacted to his opinion on it. Yeah, and that was because we sort of talked about it beforehand. By the way, Sid was totally right. That was the saddest thing I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:34:02 No, and I acknowledge that. I thought it went well. Hey, Vince, take five shots. Go ahead. Oh, he missed all five. just run to the rim and dunk it literally
Starting point is 00:34:15 he did it literally .5 seconds left it was embarrassing yes yes he missed the shot before that led
Starting point is 00:34:24 to the dunk and everybody just let him get the rebound it was so sad but it happened against the Raptors but you held your own
Starting point is 00:34:31 because you were like well it had to be against the Raptors yeah well no but like I didn't I took the other side reluctantly
Starting point is 00:34:37 I thought it was a little bit pathetic too it was nice that it was against the Raptors It would have been nicer if he had sunk the shot five or six shots before he did. It was a little, dude, it was literally point shaving. Well, and I wonder, too.
Starting point is 00:34:50 It allowed him to score. The Raptors celebrated. I would love to hear the mic. I want to hear the courtside mic. Let him do it. Just let him dunk. It has to be a dunk. They probably told him, dunk it.
Starting point is 00:35:05 Does anybody know a seven-foot French guy? Anybody? Anybody? stop shooting from like a few feet away you're not gonna make it dunk it can you still dunk um yeah there was some there's some really good moments i was really impressed watching we were very very proud of you you pressed the buttons a lot i did man did they tell you to do that or were you just like i'm doing that i know every new person who ever came on the show that's all they did they'd sit there for like 10 minutes and just press all of them which would have been
Starting point is 00:35:33 super annoying because it goes through everyone's headset and the loudspeakers in the studio just every five seconds I kind of believe there was a very underrated one that I wish I used more yeah and they didn't even tell me about it there's just this iPad sitting in front of me and at one point I went is this the soundboard
Starting point is 00:35:53 and then they just kind of went yes and I'm like ah ding ding ding is the is the studio bigger or smaller than it looks on TV way way smaller it's like a closet yeah I was shocked and that was the first time I'd ever been it I'd never seen it I actually haven't never see it but I know looking at
Starting point is 00:36:12 studios they always look enormous and they're tiny tiny tiny tiny right I mean it would be a little bigger than this room no no no but I mean this room looks deep oh yeah it's no that's it's how long is that ten feet if that like I probably could reach definitely about eight seven yeah it's it is not a big him um but that i think made it easier like it was because it was tighter more intimate the crew just openly laughs like i didn't know they should yeah any good show i thought you had you know like stifle it for tv i don't know no i don't know it was funny i sometimes make it better we used to listen to um uh on in halifax we ran um a couple shows and one of them was
Starting point is 00:36:57 american top 40 with ryan seacrest and one of the things they used to do and i don't think they still do this on the show but they ryan would make a joke and they'd like insert a laugh what do you mean so they he'd like he'd like make it make a joke about him because he's really busy right so he doesn't he you could tell he was like running into american top 40 and then running out to do american idol this is like you know five ten years ago and uh and then it would be like he'd be like talking about something and like he'd make like a a sort of a lame joke and then And then you'd hear in the background as though there's like an audience there. It was really awkward.
Starting point is 00:37:31 But yeah, the Tim and Sid ones are actually like real. They're real laughs. Yeah, it caught me off guard the first time it happened. You could probably even see if you have the footage. I like looked. What is it like sitting next to a volcanic Sid Sixero rant? You just, all you want to do is keep up. All you want to do is keep up.
Starting point is 00:37:50 And he establishes a tough pace. That's a tough pace, man. and you've got to learn when to go at them and when to be the concerned parrot, which that's what I turned into on the Vince thing. I was like, oh, gosh, Sid, you know, go easy on him. Please. Then he's talking about Willie, and I'm like, actually, stupid idiot.
Starting point is 00:38:11 Tim, sorry, not Tim, Doug McClain came on the show. I hope I didn't rub him the wrong way. Doug McClain started off by saying, you know, never catch ice surfing. Whatever else you do. It was a great joke. It was. Or, no, I don't even think he said ice herring.
Starting point is 00:38:27 He's like, whatever your show is. And then I go, hey, when you have an expert on, you've got to ask for their expertise. And I know you're an expert in this field. So, Doug, when's the right time to fire a GM? He handled that pretty well. And he gave you a straight answer. For a guy who, like, doesn't really know him to ask that question.
Starting point is 00:38:45 I wouldn't have gone there. What did Sid say after about that question? I don't know. I think he liked it. Did he? I mean, Sid's not the one to be like, now, now, be cordial. Like I think he wants The most entertaining stuff
Starting point is 00:38:57 That was a good That was a good one I was like That was pretty good I was gonna ask Mitch the question I was gonna do it And if they regretted it I'd be like
Starting point is 00:39:05 Well you shouldn't have asked me To do the show You shouldn't have asked me So what do you think Of the Chris Weidman trade As it stands I know it's a tiny Minor deal
Starting point is 00:39:15 Yeah But The Oilers still do get A guy who can skate And move a puck On the right side For nothing it talks coaches and ubers yeah yeah that was that's definitely why that trade was made
Starting point is 00:39:31 oh for sure and what i what i said yesterday on the show like the guys who did the most talking were matt duchesne and chris weidman well matt duchesne's like a top 10 score in the league right now and chris weidman i'm gonna trade him yeah yeah like sorry bud you're not matt duchesne um ottawa got something for a guy they clearly didn't like and didn't think had an uh a future with the organization which is a good thing conditionally it's conditional sex oh is it oh i didn't know that what's the condition yeah i don't know but i know it's a conditional sex okay so that must have broken after the show okay yeah let's verify that but i'm pretty sure it's conditional so adam wilde says things let's check let's text marks of art by the way ryan
Starting point is 00:40:11 lacy come on mr dubas one hour left don't make me look like a liar please all i was trying to do was help don't want leafs nation to hate me considering i have a lot of respect for them Lace is out Hashtag He's not Ryan I want to get that going He's not Ryan Here it is
Starting point is 00:40:30 Conditions Edmunchers Impressmenton Impressmenton transferred the condition from the Yerback Yerback trade It's actually the blues pick The sixth round pick
Starting point is 00:40:46 Upgrades to a fifth Selection if Yerbeck appears in 50 or more regular season games for the Blues in 2018-2019. So let's check in on how many games. So that matters for the Senators now. Yes. Is Yerbeck on the Blues? Yes.
Starting point is 00:41:03 So if he appears in, oh, he's down in the AHL. So he's played one game, so it's going to be a six-round pick. It's going to be a six-round pick. So, you know, if you're the Sens, I think you want anything in the news cycle that isn't the LeBreton Flats thing. So I guess that was good for them. Which we're getting to next. Peter Chiarelli, of course.
Starting point is 00:41:21 And if you're Peter Chiarelli, you want to look busy. You want to look like you're doing something. And Ken Hitchcock might have even said, get me another option on D. I doubt he was like, get me Chris Weidman. But, you know, get me another option. I like the move better for the Oilers than the Sens, to be honest. It's pretty ho-hum. I don't think it's much to write about.
Starting point is 00:41:45 um if you you can look at it even as like yarabek for weidman right that's well and this is so so we have oilers we have extra oilers and extra sends news i am using really this boring trade to to springboard us into the not boring shit that now you hang on to your thing because i'm going to set up your thing the first thing that we heard yesterday was that the city of ottawa told reporters that eugene and his company need to get it together uh because they have six weeks and then they will lose their exclusivity and i'm going to read something that was posted by travis because this fully explains everything and i believe it is from the ottawa citizen it is behind the scenes three sources with direct knowledge of the negotiations characterized
Starting point is 00:42:25 a major roadblock as melnick whose bargaining tactics have bedeviled government reps and those inside rendezvous who have been involved in the talks i guess rendezvous the other partner involved no one is quite sure what melnick's end game is on labretton flats they say they don't know what his goal is uh the sources what i i just don't understand that the sources build an arena the sources who didn't want to be identified because they aren't authorized to speak publicly about the negotiations said melnick has been trying to avoid paying for the arena the expectations were spectacularly unrealistic one source says now that was yesterday now before you get to your thing steve uh it's not much of a thing well it is a it is a bit of a thing okay um actually read
Starting point is 00:43:14 your thing first this will work well i just said close savvy insider and he just responded no i'm a future color commentator ah ah so uh now confusing response i don't think he's good at texting um hey maybe you should learn to put on your elbow pads the right way oh there is a group Well, I saw, yeah, why is he even responding to me? He shouldn't. There is a group of local business leaders in Ottawa. October 11th, they sent a letter to NHL Commissioner Gary Bettman that provided, and provided Thursday to the Globe and Mail,
Starting point is 00:43:50 a spokesperson said he represented a large number of concerned leaders in the law, banking and finance, real estate, building and trades, labor, construction, information technology, tourism, and hospitality, First Nations, philanthropy, public opinion, science, health care, government and the media all sectors that make up canada's national capital region they call themselves the capital built task force and they told betman they wholeheartedly endorsed the project in the labretton flats as well as the senators moving downtown they expressed however serious concerns over the intentions of senators owner eugene melnick and whether or not he is
Starting point is 00:44:26 committed to moving the team downtown they provided a survey undertaken by abacus data uh in which 60 of the responding ottowans uh would support nhl commissioner gary bettman and the nhl getting involved to ensure that this project moves ahead on time bettman responded october 23rd thanking them for the letter he said while i cannot speak for the senators only i am happy to chat with concerned constituents please feel free to give me a call so this is a nightmare yes and who likes him and then here's here's what happened today this is what i thought you were going to actually read steve but it's okay what happened today was ottawa senator's owner eugene melnick suing partner in 700 for 700 million dollars over failed downtown arena bit
Starting point is 00:45:07 now remember eugene melnick has six weeks before this deal exclusivity expires meaning that somebody else can come in and bid that means he's suing the partner already for a failed arena bid that's not failed yet but i guess it's failed it's not it's technically not done done tom done done but you see another owner you see how I connected the two that's a real kick in the pants making foot jokes still
Starting point is 00:45:35 you said pants no I said kick that's pointy chute sorry it's a step in the right direction right I'm trying boy where were we yeah the sins are boned huh
Starting point is 00:45:53 Um, I think that this deal is for sure falling through and Eugene Melnick wanted the city of Ottawa to pay for it. They're not going to now he's suing his business partner. How long until they are no longer in Ottawa? I think they're going to stay. I think they're going to stay in Ottawa. I think if you keep that, listen, if you, if the NHL bends over backwards and gets kicked in the teeth consistently to save the Arizona coyotes, you sort of have to do the same with
Starting point is 00:46:19 the senators. Right. And no offense to coyotes fans, but you know, that's what happened. The Ottawa Senators Gary Bedwin was like Hanging off the edge of a cliff With his pinky finger Whatever they did
Starting point is 00:46:29 Supporting the Coyotes Whatever they did To get rid of Donald Sterling In the NBA Is what they need to do To get rid of Eugene Melnick Now Different reasons to get rid of him
Starting point is 00:46:37 But get rid of him all the same They found the Get rid of him They got the wrong Uber tape Is what you're saying Yeah The Uber tape is They should
Starting point is 00:46:45 They should look at that Uber tape And go ah Everything that we thought Is confirmed yeah i don't know you sure on this one what do you mean what i honestly think i mean i don't think eugene melnick is well-intentioned i think we've i think actions speak louder than words i don't think he cares i think he wants taxpayers in ottawa to pay for the downtown arena and if they're not going to pay for it he what what is the impetus for eugene melnick yeah to because
Starting point is 00:47:15 He's going to cut even on this team. He is going to make even with the payments or whatever. He gets to say to his rich friends that he owns an NHL team. He gets season tickets. What does he care that the arena is outside? He has a car to drive him there anyway. There's nothing in this for Eugene Melnick personally. So why would he do it?
Starting point is 00:47:35 And that's how he looks at it. That's how he looks at everything. Well, I hope he understands as a businessman that a downtown arena would drive more business. to the Senators and thus business to his bank account. I'm sure he understands that, but I think he wants, I think he's looking at it like, by the time this arena pays itself back, remember, the guy's like 60 years
Starting point is 00:47:54 old. I will be dead. Oh, he must be older. I will be dead. That guy is not my dad, bitch. No, but think about it. He will not make the money back on this arena in his lifetime. And that's not an unfair thing to say. This is a 25-year business plan. Eugene Melnick is 59. I told you. What? He's 59. It's a hard 59, but it's
Starting point is 00:48:10 59. It's a hard 59. Boy, um, listen. here let me let me go back okay let's let's step out of the situation a little bit okay so when we bring up someone over and over and over and over and over again on the show in a negative way i like to every now and then reset and go wait a sec are we being fair are we picking on the guy so like for example peter shirelli bring him up all the time critical Of what he does with the Oilers I like to praise the moves he makes
Starting point is 00:48:45 That I think are worth praising There's also a really good chance Some of his decisions in Edmonton Are influenced by people above him Maybe even ownership Robert of Nix maybe Could be him, could be Daryl Cates The 80's Oilers because they won cups
Starting point is 00:48:59 We know Daryl Cates is involved We know that from the Yakubov story all those years ago So Gotta give him the benefit of the doubt And that's something that I should maybe mention on the show more often enter eugene melnick we have not said a nice thing about this human being probably in the entire history of the show oh no he deserve all of it we've said he did save the senators man i ask he did i he saved
Starting point is 00:49:28 the senators in them in the mid-2000s listen if eugene melnick we're acting in good faith but here we are again so i'm like i'm because i cannot find a reason to say a nice thing about this guy if eugene melnick i cannot find a thing good faith ever i'd be cool with it i'd be like wow we've seen a corner turned this is great but are you at you're asking no one trusts him past predictors no one trusts past past actions are the best future predictors this is what he does this is what he does this is what he is and this is what he will do that ain't gonna change is it weird that like because i just feel like the edmonton arena deal was it was so public that they were getting a whole big bunch of taxpayer money and the flames deal was so public that the
Starting point is 00:50:18 big issue was public spending why is it all this guy this guy this guy because i haven't really heard anything about like the tax aspect of it all i'm trying to find any little rope to give this guy to grab onto and i just can't find it he's got to get out he's he's got to get it's done he's it's done and that's this is the thing like like how do you he won't leave quietly no of course not he's not gonna the nhl the nhl's got to intervene as much as they are trying to intervene As much as the NHL is trying to say, well, that's not our job and we can't get involved. The NHL has to realize, and they know this. They'll never say this.
Starting point is 00:51:01 Put that hockey hall of famer to work. Put him on the case. This is bad for business. This is worse for business, by the way, than the concussion lawsuit. This is the worst thing plaguing the NHL right now. Do you think that Gary Bettman's going to sit back and not do something about this? I don't think so. Enough's enough.
Starting point is 00:51:17 Like, I want to know what enough's enough is. Well, that's that. That's that. I wonder if Bettman's going to say, Smarten up! Melnick needs to smarten up. I feel bad for Sens fans, man. I feel bad.
Starting point is 00:51:34 And Ottawa, like, I'm excited for the prospect of them getting an arena and a cool little surrounding area. And Jack Hughes. Ottawa's a great city. Well, no, they won't get him. Colorado might. Colorado will get Jack Hughes.
Starting point is 00:51:49 I always forget that too I always go well they might No they won't It's booze for hues Booze for hues Yeah because it's lose for hues It's the hashtag Booze for hues
Starting point is 00:52:04 Boo earns See it's funny now Boo earns We're saying boo earns No I think Leopards do not change spots It's not a bad city It's not a bad city
Starting point is 00:52:20 It's not a dull city Ottawa's got so much potential Unless you ask people there Who say it's kind of dull It's also kind of cold It's like minus 20 today, man It's a little colder in Ottawa Well, yeah, it's a little further north
Starting point is 00:52:37 And it's on the Rideau It's not that great Let's not hype it up so much If Jesse was commissioner There'd be no Canadian teams Yeah, they'd all be in Florida I put them in the warm climates, you know? No, Minnesota.
Starting point is 00:52:50 I don't want to go to Ottawa. All the Canadian teams in Minnesota. Why put a Canadian team in Canada when the fans are going to cheer anyway? Yeah, they'll watch hockey. Yeah, they'll watch it anyway. Let them watch puck. I do think that Ottawa has all the potential in the world
Starting point is 00:53:06 to be a good example of what a good small market team can be. It's not even that small. I know, but Steve, it is small. And the financial aspect of it is the main source of income in Ottawa is government. So government's not going to come in and sponsor your arena. Government's not going to come in and pay big money for your TV rights. It's government. What you need to do at that point, it's like the Green Bay Packers.
Starting point is 00:53:30 They're a small market team, but they spend like a big market team because their fans are so invested. They're there every game. They buy all the merchandise. They're insane. And that's what you need to develop in Ottawa. And Ottawa fans are crying out for that. they're screaming for it please let us love you outside of thomas shabbat and a couple other players players wait what's thomas shabbat's name hot sam bacho there you go outside of hot sam
Starting point is 00:53:56 bacho is brian five or six the most likable thing about this team right now yes i like yes dead ass like i'm so serious like that is i'm trying to think of things that can compliment them on Things I think they do well God bless their social media team They're trying They have nothing to work with God bless them Offering a press pass or whatever it is
Starting point is 00:54:21 That they've given him to Brian 5 or 6 Isn't he like the arena host? I mean practically He's practically the mascot And by year's end he might be head coach Him and Spartacat just tag teaming the mascot Why not? I doubt they're paying him
Starting point is 00:54:35 Me too How do they pay Spartacat? Well, I'm sure they pay him in Andrew Hammond left behind his McDonald's coupons I don't have these But this is the thing, right? You in Ottawa have a pretty major sponsor For the arena in Canadian Tire
Starting point is 00:54:52 I'm sure that deal will come up And when the new arena is done Maybe you do another one or whatever But there is money there There's potential for spending there Are you ever going to make money like the Leafs? No Are there ways to win when you don't have money like the Leafs?
Starting point is 00:55:06 Absolutely How about the Jets? what's what's bigger in terms of population edmonton or ottawa one of the richest people in the world owns the jets though that's the thing you know that right sorry one of the richest people in the world owns the jet so i guess that's different yeah that's an owner who's like i just want to have a team yeah that's like your top 25 richest person in the world oh yeah thompson family thompson family the population of edmonton is 932 000 as of 2016 the population of ottawa is 934,000
Starting point is 00:55:41 as of 2016. Different economic situation. Different. Different, different, different. A lot more private enterprise in Edmonton. 2,000 people. Steve Dangle is correct,
Starting point is 00:55:49 ladies and gentlemen. I mean, they're about the same, right? But yeah, different. And that's fine. Okay, every market has challenges. Every market. Every stinking market. Especially in the NHL.
Starting point is 00:56:00 So find a way to make it work. And what's actually... I want... Listen, whenever we talk about the Eugene Melnick situation, specifically as it relates to the Sens,
Starting point is 00:56:08 i hope like it's like it's like me with brandon sod i hope that nobody thinks that i hate brandon sod i hope that nobody thinks that i hate the ottawa senators i don't even hate eugene melnick you just don't like tom wilson oh well no i'm kidding no i don't even hate tom wilson i don't like tom wilson's actions most of the time i don't like eugene melnick melnick's actions i want eugene to succeed i want this deal to go through we everybody does everybody does you tell me if Eugene Melnick didn't have a Charles Dickens Christmas carol story where three ghosts of Hockey Pass came and visited him, and then he woke up the next morning and bought an enormous turkey for the town of Ottawa and signed the deal on the Labretton Flats.
Starting point is 00:56:47 My boy, go and buy the biggest spuds you can find. You think he's going to have that much? I think so. I think so. Merry Christmas. What an honor. The ghosts of Senators Past. 1970s Senators Past.
Starting point is 00:56:59 Signed a guy named Cratchit. Oh my God, Adam. That's hilarious. My time for cheering for Melnick Was years ago And I'm just not anymore I'm cheering for the Senators I'm cheering for the
Starting point is 00:57:11 He's not going to So throw that out the window I'm cheering for the Senators I'm cheering for the Sens fans I'm cheering for Ottawa Not that guy Bye Get out
Starting point is 00:57:24 You're not wanted There's no money to be made here And there's nothing to be swindled Be gone isn't it so clear that that's what it is or no it's the media do you think it's the media i mean i would definitely kick brent wallace one of the nicest people in the industry off the plane i'm gonna bury you kid allegedly no that's the quote allegedly i'm gonna bury you guy with a full head of silver hair i don't think he called him kid i don't know i just said it there brent wallace
Starting point is 00:57:58 just has that youthful look to him so i just even with the silver hair he sort of got silver fox yeah yeah he's george clooney you know and i think he's even gotten into fights with like ian mendez who's also well liked and and who could i like i just can't imagine i'm just trying to imagine like that sentence is silly fighting with ian mendez like unbelievable there's there's a small pantheon of people in hockey where i'm like okay if you're mean to this person you're an asshole like paul hendrick jack armstrong it well jack armstrong's not hockey but whatever uh ian mendez people shit post paul hendrick more than i thought now that i've i've been following for a year i'm like i paul hendrick gets a lot of like mean tweets and i'm like why
Starting point is 00:58:44 man he is the nicest man i will i'm over time i'm slowly evolving into you you haven't said it for a while and i say it every show now he's the greatest he's the nicest you got the job shadow i did i did it was cool uh the feature comes out sometime next week on the maple leaves channels but uh henny's like he's just a wicked guy just wicked like he's cool and he's always got candy in the press box and you'll have you'll actually see cj and james myrtle and mike zeisberger and all those guys are they i interviewed them all about them and just what they have to say about is really cool have you ever asked him about hennessy i never did ask you should have asked him about hennessy because that's wow yeah actually if he knows jr smith if he cares well
Starting point is 00:59:27 i would like to know that's a you know i mean it's a solid point i should have next feature yeah this is why you are a producer my friend paul hendrick was the guy who told them they were ahead jim ralph no jim i get it uh jim ralph actually has a very funny bit on paul hendrick that i can't wait for you to see it's jim ralph very dry um but joe bowen in the background is laughing because it's so the way he takes it is great so you'll have to you'll love it you'll love it um now what we need to do now is move on to the oilers to the neilander signing not yet nothing yet it's 455 55 ladies and gentlemen five minutes to discuss edmonton's new line are you guys ready for edmonton's new line i i know because it's it's called the identity
Starting point is 01:00:11 line whoa zach cassian kyle brodziak and milan lucic edmonton's new identity line this is gonna be the third line right uh it's a good question third or fourth yeah because i think jujar kara and who else is who's on the fourth line there brodziak was supposed to be on the fourth line just be a penalty goal goes between being on the fourth line and like first and conor mctavid Oh, I'm not sure I'm trying to remember the name But that's the identity line Identity, you can identify them
Starting point is 01:00:45 By the names on the back of their jerseys And their play on the ice McLean really took issue With Ken Hitchcock talking about Hold the ice Wants to see Lucic hold the ice more Which I think we interpreted to be He just wants him to beat
Starting point is 01:00:59 Stand in front of the net, man Well, okay, why jvr has a skill set that allows him to score a shit ton of goals from in front of the net but he's also a physical specimen joe pavelski has a skill set that allows he's so good pavelski oh he's so good in front he's very underrated they talk about the eastern bias thing joe pavelski needs to be a top five name in that conversation agreed he is so underrated. So undervalued. Incredibly dominant. Almost had the gold
Starting point is 01:01:35 medal winning goal in 2010. This close. For America. This close. He would have been on a dollar bill. He would have been on a dollar coin, dollar bill. Yes. Right. They don't have coins down there. They don't believe in metal. They don't.
Starting point is 01:01:51 Anyway. Sorry. I don't even remember where I was going with that, Adam. George Washington and Joe Pavelski. Basically, why isn't Lucic those two? Like, he he's got the body he scored before just the drop off is so sudden and shocking like they talk about the physical condition he's in and he's in the best shape ever i don't believe it no i simply don't believe it i wonder i wonder too it's impossible if um i mean maybe it's injuries
Starting point is 01:02:18 and stuff too you always have to keep that in mind but no he's in the best physical shape of what the oilers needed to do a year and a half ago was say okay melissa milan the game that you used to play doesn't exist anymore and although you were very effective in that game and we signed you to play that game we're now changing the plan yep changing the plan milan changing the and the milan plan there it is it's gucci uh because milan gucci italian high fashion anyway um we uh you like that you like the plan should have been all right so here is an hour-long tape of jvr watch it every night before you go to bed and then we're going to have you we're going to we're going to take shots at the net and you're going to tip joe pavelski yeah like there's all
Starting point is 01:03:04 sorts of practice footage of jvr in front of them just do that and if they that that's the problem with the oilers though they wouldn't look at a situation like that and go let's my let's change this guy's game so at least we can salvage some of this contract and make him a player that's effective for us they just were like nope we're gonna keep throwing him out there and we're gonna keep setting him up to fail yeah and it's just i there's something wrong something's wrong well i just don't believe them something's wrong with milan lucic you think there's something you think he's hurt or it's one of those i don't know if it's an injury there's injuries that heal and there's injuries that are the way things are now sort of like clarkson in the elbow and in the back
Starting point is 01:03:45 in the back back's a tough one like back's one of those ones has he had a back injury I seem to remember something about his upper back I mean he's got hard miles right sure there's often not an incredibly long shelf life on those types of careers right
Starting point is 01:04:06 you have your moments speaking of Cam Neely ask Bruins fans about Cam Neely tough as nails scored a lot of goals short career a guy like Nylander will be able to play forever he'll be like Marleau
Starting point is 01:04:20 He'll be like Ovechkin. He'll be making $5 million at 93 years old. Because no one touches the men. No one touches them. Marner, that might shave a few games off because he gets clobbered a lot. He gets back up, but he gets clobbered a lot. Hyman, who I really like, like it's feistiness,
Starting point is 01:04:42 there's a shelf life. There's a shelf life on that style of game. And if that's what you got to do, if that's your game, that's your game. Make your money. yeah but you can even if you're the top dog like the most dominant force which he for sure was for a long time no one could touch lucic physically every hit you throw every punch you throw takes a little bit out of you as well i just don't believe that he's in the best physical
Starting point is 01:05:12 shape of his life i just don't believe it and also let's not let's not uh overvalue that let's say he is you know who the strongest person in the Leafs organization is like strongest by far wasn't it Connor Carrick for a while Corrado no dude it's uh Rich Kloon oh yeah Rich Kloon will beat oh my goodness any he could probably outlift I don't know if there's an NHLer who can lift more than Rich Kloon I'm serious like in the entire he's a gym rat loves it in the entire league I'm dead serious I don't know if there's a guy who can lift more than Rich Kloon there's Certainly no leaf. There's no leaf.
Starting point is 01:05:51 Connor Carrick won the whatever the most fit. Deadlift or whatever, yeah. During camp. It's just not about that, though. And it's not a slight on Rich Kloon either. It's just he's probably in the best shape of his life. It's about playing hockey and not lifting things. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:06:10 I don't think Milan Lucic's game was tipping in and stuff, though. And I think the Oilers. Bang and crash. Yeah, but I think the Oilers. there's a finesse to what jvr does there's a finesse to what pavelsky does and if my point in this is that i think those guys are pretty in front of the sure they're not ugly i'm trying to think of a lucy's could be ineffective my point here from back in the day is that lucy was never given direction the oilers are directionless anyway they're a rudderless ship they are they're
Starting point is 01:06:40 completely directionless he was never directed to do any one thing it was like 10 000 things that was expected to do i wonder listen i'm not a hitchcock fan i'm not like oh his style is so super modern and cool but i wonder if just having a guy who's a bit of a task master master like he's supposed to be and he goes do this one thing yeah this is the one thing i need the more i think about it the more i actually really like that move for the oilers because it's a it's a coach who's he's only there till the end of the year and it's a coach who the players can't tell shit you can't tell him he's already retired a couple times doesn't need you i'm not scared of you you're not going to tarnish my legacy i've got a cup i'm one of the best coaches of all time
Starting point is 01:07:27 listen to me or go to the minors listen to me or sit listen to me or go on the fourth line i don't care who you are i might not even bother learning your name i'm certainly not going to meet your wife or your agent i don't give a shit do what i say or get the fuck off my team which by the way is my team did you know that i'm the head coach of this team right now i'm ken hitchcock do what i say i think he's maybe a little bit nicer than that maybe maybe not but i know it's the right move he's no mike keenan it's the right move it's the the leafs sort of did it yeah the leaves did it in a uh different way where they signed babcock for eternity and it was basically hey so we'll he's gonna be here long after you are if you don't shape up if you shape up hey
Starting point is 01:08:20 maybe you'll be here longer it's 503 if you haven't noticed oh i'm gonna tweet it i'm gonna tweet it ryan lacy ryan lacy uh yeah he's he's tweeted a couple uh don't be mean to leafs nations kind of things i can read them out ryan lacey at 5 p.m says okay so the 5 p.m deadline is approaching from what toronto maple leafs gm kyle dubas told me it seems like nothing has been announced officially yet not really sure what dubas meant whether it was 5 p.m today or 5 p.m on december 1st also not sure if he was meaning he was going to be updated by the neilander camp on his answer of the rumored contract agreement by 5 p.m so yes there are a lot of angles to the situation but i do strongly believe a deal of some sort is very close
Starting point is 01:09:01 i genuinely understand the maple leafs fan base fan base if you're upset if nothing happens by 5 p.m today this guy's tweets but just know that i was just the messenger from what dubas told me and i have no control in what actually goes on with the leafs and the neilanders camp this wasn't a ploy to gain followers or anything like that but if you want to keep following me expect some great hockey related tweets as i post pictures of me and hl players i have a lot of respect for leafs nation and hope that neilander remains a leaf for a long time ryan lacey leafs insider Don't be a dick to Ryan Lacey, by the way. No, I just tweeted, hey.
Starting point is 01:09:36 That's all. Steve. That's all. What? Don't be a dick. I'm just, I'm greeting him. We've never met. You gotta greet someone you've never met.
Starting point is 01:09:46 Way to revive Luchich, going back to that, is, I don't think you, maybe you start with this identity line, or whatever, this third line that's clearly just bang and crash, but then you put him on a line that is slower dude don't put him out there with mcdavid he can't do you just can't maybe on the power play on the power play yeah put him five and five no put his gigantic ass right in front of that net yes every day you can't move him instead of bag skating him make him do tip-ins like half an hour after the team's gone to the locker room um put him on a line that is a bit slower moving but its identity isn't just bang and crash he's the guy who does the bang and crashing you have someone else run the line i keep thinking nooch
Starting point is 01:10:34 maybe broadziak you know that line will do that line will go as far as kyle broadziak takes them which is not a great sentence you know what i mean that should be the quote of the day we should make t-shirts that line as far as kyle broadziak takes them can we please use his name oh kb what's his number great minds what is his number and then we can make it in orange and blue let's
Starting point is 01:11:07 yeah let's make loyalist t-shirts live on the show do we want to go orange base with blue writing or blue base with orange writing and we'll donate all the proceeds to Eugene Melnick and keep the senators in Ottawa
Starting point is 01:11:24 and we will be heroes in just one day. Brodziak's 28, by the way. His number is 28. His number. He's from St. Paul. Good local kid. No, St. Paul, Alberta.
Starting point is 01:11:38 There's a few St. Pauls. No, I'm sorry. I've literally never heard of St. Paul, Alberta. Hey, Catholic guy, what's St. Paul the Saint of? I don't remember. I want to know. That's my middle name, too. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:11:53 Steve St. Paul Glenn. Way to go, Paul. Steve St. Paul, right? Yeah, for sure. First middle name is Saint. Second one's Paul. When I typed into Google, what is St. Paul the patron saint of?
Starting point is 01:12:08 Google tells me, St. Paul placed greater emphasis on the ideas of original sin, atonement, and the role of Jesus Christ's crucifixion in offering redemption power. Redemptive power. St. Paul is the patron saint of missionaries, evangelists, writers,
Starting point is 01:12:25 public workers wait what did he do though he placed he was a thinker he would he wrote stuff and he what did he do he's a saint because he was super into the God stuff like what did he chase the snakes from Ireland his entire bio no but like it seems like original sin thing which is basically you're born and oh you've already committed a sin sorry he was influential in the early development of Christianity. Okay. I'll let it slide, Paul.
Starting point is 01:12:57 But you're on thin ice. Well, you gotta think. Early on in Christianity, it's like an expansion team, right? Like, they gotta it's like Andrew Burnett on the Thrashers and the Wild. You gotta take what you can get, right? Oh, he scored 40 points. That's pretty
Starting point is 01:13:13 cool for an expansion team. That's cool. Yeah, I mean, we're not gonna have Kelly Buckberger on our top line forever. But he can be captain. Sure. Yeah, Roman Nadur on defense, and who else did they have? They had some plurse. I mean, you've got to think, they were going up against, like, the Greek-Roman, you know... Posse-Nermanin.
Starting point is 01:13:33 Oh, you're talking about God now. Yeah, they were going up against, like, Judaism, and then the pantheon of gods from Greece, and a whole bunch of... Paganism! And paganism in general. Worship. A lot. On Catholic.org, they have fun facts about St. Paul.
Starting point is 01:13:48 Oh, let's hear them. Jesse, is that how it's worded? Fun facts? Okay, the episode is Fun Facts About St. Paul Saints, fun facts, St. Paul Some of the fun facts about St. Paul are He was originally known as Saul
Starting point is 01:14:06 I did know that Yes, I remember that And he changed it to Paul For some reason Better call Paul Oh, they even have a YouTube video if you want to we're not gonna watch youtube video just read something but is there nothing else that was really fun facts he even presided over the persecutions of the early christians and was
Starting point is 01:14:27 the present and was present at the martyrdom martyrdom saint stephen hey so he made another guy a saint he was present at the martyrdom of saint so he persecuted other christians developed the idea of original sin over the persecutions of the early christians I don't care And I want to get back to hockey No, hey K-8 I did this stuff
Starting point is 01:14:56 Now I do hockey That's what I do We're done We're done with the reading about The little drawing of St. Paul Like I'm pretty sure you're on like a teacher Like a Catholic teacher's Yeah, I'm so
Starting point is 01:15:07 Resource website Oh my god, we gotta learn about this today I better Google it and find out Yeah, St. Paul died in the year 67 That is just 67 That is 1,900 years before the Leafs won their last cup. St. Paul, Patriots say to the Toronto Maple Leafs. I was about to say it.
Starting point is 01:15:25 Way to go, Paul. All right, I'm done. All right, Brian Burke. Uh-oh. Brian Burke is accused of being old and accused of dropping old guy opinions all over Sportsnet. I won't have it personally. I disagree, Brian Burke.
Starting point is 01:15:44 Brian Burke basically said, And we saw, we got a full frontal view of this When the Leafs lost to the Hurricanes In a very perplexing game at the beginning of the week The Hurricanes had 29 shots And followed it up with 2 And they won And won
Starting point is 01:15:59 The Leafs sure didn't look good against them But I think Carolina had a good night, the Leafs didn't It didn't look like a Toronto Maple Leafs night The Leafs weren't playing their game And they lost In the first 10 minutes I didn't think the Leafs actually looked that bad I just think it was two different styles the Leafs had opportunities to get their shots in
Starting point is 01:16:21 they just didn't take them they went for these passing plays that got broken up which they that's kind of what they do they do it a lot uh they do a lot of things especially early in games that don't count as shots on goal but they look threatening you know tip it a little wide or If the pass gets through That's going in But it doesn't result in A shot on goal Or even a shot attempt
Starting point is 01:16:45 Sometimes Carolina just peppers you Just peppers you all game And I noticed Like really early on They just lobbed shot after shot After shot at Freddie But they were muffins
Starting point is 01:16:57 I didn't think they were Threatening at all And then there was this one point Where I just went Oh the Leafs are in so much trouble Svechnikov If they played him He would score a lot
Starting point is 01:17:07 Dude How does that guy only have five goals? Because they don't play him. He gets no ice time. He gets zero ice time. He's so good. He was my early pick before the season pick to win the Calder. Yeah, he did.
Starting point is 01:17:18 And then the last Pettersson. That's an animal. Dom LeCision was, I think, the guy I was pointing at. He's like, man, if they played this guy, he would be really good. He's an animal. He's so, so good. And that's why he was picked second overall. That guy's an animal.
Starting point is 01:17:31 And he's going to be such a problem for the Metro Division. well i i um so so after the the game ends and carolina wins and it's five two or whatever mcclain he wins mcclain he wins i stayed off twitter because of that um it wasn't that bad the uh the one thing that you know they do is they do the kind of the thunderclap and then they they skate to the boards and then they bash themselves up against the boards now steve at risk of repeating yourself in both of your outlets but i know there are some people that maybe haven't seen your video yet um ryan burke said i hate it i don't like it can i read it please read it yeah so on the game was on tuesday so this would be wednesday on pts on
Starting point is 01:18:12 primetime no wednesday on primetime sports he said something to this effect during the broadcast so he expands and he goes i don't think it's professional i don't think it belongs in our leak if the people in carolina like it great i think it's absolutely it's absurdly amateurish peewee garbage stuff they like it terrific stay and watch it clap have another beer and stay and watch them swim or canoe or whatever they're going to do next i'm not watching ryan burke can you read that again and i'll stop you i'll stop you i don't think it's professional i don't think it belongs in our league if the people in carolina like it great they like it full stop that's that's what it is man man they barely like the hurricanes that's like yep but they're
Starting point is 01:19:02 generating uh they're generating buzz which is what you need to do that hey they won your game that was great you know we might come back what is this it's just another fun thing and then it generates a conversation it's better than hey i went to the uh game last night and they won they do this thing at the end of the game they do this thing hockey oh my god
Starting point is 01:19:25 get out of your way get out of your own way have some friggin fun like Brian Burke who I met recently and I certainly didn't yell at him
Starting point is 01:19:36 from all accounts he's a great guy personally as far as I've heard met him on ice surfing didn't get to talk to him on ice surfing
Starting point is 01:19:43 there's too much going on but when he I'm trying to think what he did to the leafs like game ops when he was gm and the only thing i can think of is the marley's got cheerleaders that's all i can think of and i think he was the one who introduced costume elvis and his little crew of people who throw t-shirts into the crowd in the nosebleeds i got acquainted with them i never caught a shirt still haven't bitter
Starting point is 01:20:11 that's all i can think of and he talked about on the broadcast one thing he said was Well, you know, I wanted to make a team that fans wanted to watch, you know, so they hit a lot and they fought a lot. The team stunk! They did not win hockey games! Was the issue. There were no- their playoff attendance was real low. No one wanted- no one went! No one went to any Leafs playoff games because they didn't make it! That would have generated some buzz. That would have made them a lot more entertaining.
Starting point is 01:20:50 If they fight and hit en route to a win, wonderful. But they didn't. They didn't win. So, I can't, I don't understand how you could shit on what the Hurricanes are doing. Look, if it's not your thing,
Starting point is 01:21:06 which is what he's saying, fine. Fine. And a few people tweeted that. They're like, look, I don't have to like it and that's fine listen you don't have to like anything you don't even have to like hockey if it is you know what the way they skate around there and play i don't i don't want to watch i'm not paying to watch people play i want to watch them work it's unprofessional to play do you go to work to play didn't think so you go to play to work I don't want hockey players
Starting point is 01:21:40 I want hockey workers Punch Imlag 1963 I like him His name is Punch You know he works Toughest coach in hockey Except for
Starting point is 01:21:54 Fisty McKick The head coach of the Montreal Maroons In 1918 World War I veteran World War Yeah And they called him Fisty McKick because that's what he would do in the enemy trenches.
Starting point is 01:22:09 Charged into the field with nary a gun or knife in sight. Just fifties and kickies. Just fifties and kickies. Kickies. To the Prussians or whoever happened to be into the Ottomans. They knew about Fisty McKickey or whatever I called him. They knew about that guy. They knew all about him.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Dude, have some frigging fun. Well, I think you said it perfectly. Hockey is the best game in the world. According to you. In your opinion. In my opinion. I agree there's other sports
Starting point is 01:22:37 I love watching I like watching hockey the most sure okay fair hockey culture sucks it is the worst even the fun parts
Starting point is 01:22:46 of it are terrible like there are very few fun parts to the actual culture of it and the fun the allegedly fun parts
Starting point is 01:22:53 are just nauseating but check out the salad you see the salad or the
Starting point is 01:23:02 the lingo actually that's fun I laugh i laugh because it's douche chilling i laugh because i can't i like it's a parody right but there's people like that there's people who do it as a parody and then there's people who do that in earnest we saw the uber video they actually talk like that yeah and you know it's whatever you know you're talking laid back your bros whatever but it's it's i i and it's probably because i'm
Starting point is 01:23:33 not a hockey player bro i'm a duster i'm just a bender i don't know i just don't know but even the fun chill parts of hockey can barely stomach it you never bang your twiggy off the glass oh wait what did he say i think it was bang my twiggy off the glass or chucked my twiggy off the glass something like that chucked my twiggy into the stands yeah into the stands yeah Jesus like have fun have fun for crying out loud and you know what
Starting point is 01:24:07 a friend introduced this phrase to me try not to yuck someone's yum that's disgusting it is punchy mckickey would say
Starting point is 01:24:21 listen not to yuck your yum but I think I'm going to kick that ottoman in the forehead What? I just, I don't know. I don't know. You're going to kick the Ottoman. You're just going to kick the Ottoman. Ottoman Turks?
Starting point is 01:24:33 No, not the chair. Not the chair. Someone from the Ottoman Empire. No, no. You're going to get that coffee table. Mmm. And you're going to. I'm going to, yeah, because there's a bunch of Turks standing on it.
Starting point is 01:24:43 Mmm. You see, Fisty McPunch or whatever. Fisty Mc, I like Fisty McKicky. So if you're, yeah, Fisty McKicky, if you're yum is saying dangle, snipe, selly, salad, but i'm not gonna yuck it yeah no i'm sorry for yucking your yum now the yum in carolina is something i also happen to find tasty it's the storm surge i think they call it the clap and then they run into the boards and they have fun literally you're criticizing clapping at children at the end of the game the kids rush the glass do the clap leaf fans were doing it i heard
Starting point is 01:25:28 people were sure because it's fun because it's fun i'm here might as they lost might as well enjoy the clap thing it's the end of the game kids storm the glass storm you see they storm the glass and then their hockey idols banging into them and they maybe they get it on snapchat or whatever the kids are doing i'm hip they get it on their phone and it's a moment they remember forever or the players could raise their sticks at center ice and leave which by the way is something they would never do 10 years ago and and remember do you remember the first time i think it was the rangers that started doing that and everyone was like What a team!
Starting point is 01:26:18 Brilliance! What respect they have for their fans! Oh my god! Are we the oatmeal of sports? They gathered around the... There's literally a circle made for them in the middle of the ice. Pre-made. Pre-painted.
Starting point is 01:26:35 And they stood in it. They got in it. I'm glad they found it. And they raised their sticks for the fans. And people lost their minds! the new york rangers revolutionizing the sport and you know someone back then was like i don't like this allegedly european nonsense let them clap let them bang off the boards if they won the game they earned it if they do it after a loss it's maybe a little also can i just say i i think um
Starting point is 01:27:09 i think that as we get older i think everybody experiences this you go music it's not as good as it used to be movies not as good as it used to be you know why because you grew up with that kids today with their tablets and their things ah oh when i was a kid we played with frozen horse poo i actually had a science teacher tell me that they used to play what they called them road apples that's what they played hockey with and they would use couch cushions bobby bond's book couch cushions where they would fling horse shit off the couch cushions that's what they played with and that's what that's why they were real men because they threw poo at each other and that was hockey that's more fun than chill you imagine getting your tooth knocked out by a piece of
Starting point is 01:27:55 petrified horse shit it's good times but my point is this it's unprofessional to play with rubber let them bounce off of things it's you know when when clap shit bombs like a man i know brian burke has been in hockey a long long time and i don't regret him saying our game but you gotta remember when it is our game that means that eventually it passes to the next generation and that's what's happening i used to be with it but then they changed what it was now i'm now Now, what I'm with isn't, and what's it seems weird and scary to me, and it'll happen to you too, Abe Simpson. It's true.
Starting point is 01:28:36 Except without stuttering and giggling. It's true. It also reminds me of that. I don't like it. What was the quarterback? Oh, there's a haircut you can set your watch to. That's right. Yeah, I don't remember.
Starting point is 01:28:47 That's from King of the Hill, right? No, I think that's from The Simpsons. Oh, is it? Oh, okay. The Joe Namath? Joe Namath. I don't like Namath with his long hair
Starting point is 01:28:56 and then he goes to this other guy there's a haircut you can set your watch trim those sideburns also Simpsons let's do the press conference and we have to hurry up
Starting point is 01:29:04 because Steve and SL have to go to a work party at 630 and we got a text message about it you got that text too didn't you
Starting point is 01:29:10 yes I did the presser S D P the Steve Dangle press conference do you think I get away
Starting point is 01:29:17 with this damn thing by the way quick question is Columbus on central time no no i don't think so because they might be on central time if they were then five o'clock hasn't happened yet jesse's looking it up right now i don't think they are ohio is a very uh it's a mysterious place it is they control every election we don't know what time zone they're in the current local time in columbus ohio usa is 5 25 eastern sorry ryan lacey more like lion lacey you see because he's lying ryan lions are unprofessional true true of a hockey team
Starting point is 01:30:00 called the lions certainly not let people have fun are we we wrap that topic yeah we're good we are all on our phones around the internet we're looking the kneelander thing is going to get announced the second should we just leave should like a blank space for if you get signed and we just insert it should the Maple Leafs parade God forbid it ever happens travel down Lakeshore Front Street or Yonge Street
Starting point is 01:30:26 Lakeshore would be a nightmare who suggested that the question is should the Maple Leafs this is from the Dan Man Can fan no you start from exhibition and then you walk all the way what it should what it needs
Starting point is 01:30:42 to do it does The Leafs Cup Parade does need to go Somewhere near Maple Leaf Gardens though You have to work Maple Leaf Gardens So then you have to go up Yonge Street And then you have to go around And then come back down You gotta work a left hand turn
Starting point is 01:30:57 Well you're gonna have to have a long parade There's a lot of pent up frustration there There's three left hand turns No a right, a left, a left Then a right, I made that mistake We almost used a joke on Tim and Sid Where Babcock doesn't make left hand turns Well you know
Starting point is 01:31:14 Hey Mike how do you get to the Loblaws there Well first you go right and then you gotta go right And go right again Anyway That never saw the light of day Yeah it's gotta be Young It's gotta be Young But you have to do a little quick stop over
Starting point is 01:31:30 At Maple Leaf Gardens on your way down Or just wave to it from Young No You gotta go It's a Loblaws And the Ryerson other gym Like What are we saying here
Starting point is 01:31:46 Like it's not Maple Leaf Gardens It's the Scotiabank arenas where they play Who gives a shit about Maple Leaf Gardens Whoa dog You know what it is It's new It's a new thing What the Leafs did a really good job of
Starting point is 01:32:01 With the 100th anniversary Is they honored the shit out of the past And then when they were done with it They went moving on Yeah, because it's time. So you're going to walk by Loblaws and say, Hey, Apples, remember when you had a hockey game there? That used to be a cigar shop, mind you.
Starting point is 01:32:17 There used to be a cigar shop right on the corner of Maple Leaf Gardens. Like, right in the arena. And it was owned by 50 McKick Jr. 50 McKick Jr. Who was 90? I thought it was going to say Siggy McGar. But no. I guess not.
Starting point is 01:32:34 You're a silly fuck. Adam, put a sock in it. I like that you kept that up though It's the theme of the show Front foot I'm still waiting for that sweet podcast With that wacky morning show trio Of Elliot Friedman, John Tavares, and Austin Matthews
Starting point is 01:32:54 I can't wait for them to take over It's gonna be great In the morning Front foot in the morning On your radio Alright, Jesse Next question or any question
Starting point is 01:33:07 willie can't you hear me yell you're putting me through hell no more questions okay well we're done none
Starting point is 01:33:22 boo on your questions today guys come on I'm checking my phone I'm upset I'm upset okay how about this one Final question to end it. I thought it was kind of interesting.
Starting point is 01:33:39 Some RT gold. You travel back to 2010 with all your current hockey knowledge. All right. So you 2018 person, you get to go back to 2010 and your job is to get hired by an NHL team. Do you think you can do it? And how quickly? Sorry, say that again.
Starting point is 01:33:57 So Adam, when you're done texting. Sorry. You 2018 Adam, you get to go back to 2010 And your goal is to get hired by an NHL team with all of your current knowledge. How quickly do you think you can do it? So, okay, so this is interesting. Do we go on the principle of our actions in the past change the present? Or do we go back and go, like, because we know every hit and miss in the draft.
Starting point is 01:34:23 Uh-huh. Right? Uh-huh. So that's what I would start doing is posting my draft rankings and then watch them, like, and then, like, watch them prominently, like, in history look better. That's such a long road. You made silver, but a few years ago? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:38 You'd have to post them, and then people would have to be like, okay, this random dude just posted this thing. Or Adam Wilde from 2010, I don't know where you were at the time. I was in Toronto. Radio DJ posts his draft rankings. Patrick Hornquist in the first round. Yeah. He's just like the last pick of the draft.
Starting point is 01:34:54 So it would take you a couple years to get a job. Probably. Probably. I also, I mean, I could also cheat on that, because all I'd have to do is say I would do the exact same thing that I did
Starting point is 01:35:05 because I do technically work for an NHL team part-time. Stop. Are you getting a ring? Well, you got the... No, I'm freelance. I don't think so.
Starting point is 01:35:14 Would Adam get a ring? I don't think so. You have to be an employee. I'm not an employee. I think Adam get a ring. I'd pay to get a ring. I'd be like, yeah, listen,
Starting point is 01:35:23 what do I need to do? I think you can do that regardless of whether you work for the team or not. I think Adam might get a ring. No, I don't get a ring. I don't. You have to be an employee.
Starting point is 01:35:31 It's different. I'm a contract worker. It's different. Okay. Do you think they let you... That'd be like a guy who cleans the windows at the Scotiabank Arena getting a ring. He should. I mean, it'd be great if he did.
Starting point is 01:35:41 He should. You think you'll get to touch the cup? Me? Yeah. I mean, whose cup? Leafs. Oh, my... Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:52 Good game. Hey, Matthews. Yeah, I think... Check it. Just a quick pat. No, I think... I think... I mean...
Starting point is 01:36:01 You ever seen the contortionist on the morning show? No. This contortionist basically curled himself into a ball like a potato bug, but going backwards. And the morning show host to be like, all right, so we're done with that. We're going to do the next thing. And he taps him on what he thought was his butt.
Starting point is 01:36:18 It was not. He was looking at the wrong side of that man. And it was very awkward. That's a contortionist's fault. I mean, come on. What can the morning show host even do there? I'm taking his side. Don't defend yourself.
Starting point is 01:36:31 As a former morning show host in Toronto on TV, I know what it's like to be under that sort of pressure. And I mean, I've never tapped someone's genitals live on the air. I didn't say that. I think you just did. But, I mean, occasionally mistakes happen. Steven, we send 2018 you back to 2010. You have to get hired by an NHL team
Starting point is 01:36:51 and prove that you are the smartest man in hockey. You could have. How are you doing this? You were running for Leafs Nation at that point. I talented Mr. Ripley, steal Kyle Dubas' identity. I just steal his wardrobe and I just become him I grow a little taller
Starting point is 01:37:05 you don't need to do that that's what I do because I already have his reputation and then I just climb up you know I I would also just mess with people like I think I would squander
Starting point is 01:37:21 the opportunity to work for an NHL team by just messing with bloggers like I would go back in time and like publish like entire Jeffler articles five minutes
Starting point is 01:37:33 before he was about to word for word slight changes and just have him be like what I worked for hours
Starting point is 01:37:44 on this thing son of a bitch that's kind of awesome that's a great idea he'd be very upset would you start the athletic would you start
Starting point is 01:37:55 the athletic in 2010 Mame's Journal of the Mathletic and I'm gonna just change everything a little bit change everything
Starting point is 01:38:09 my name is Skyler Fellows and I write for the Mathletic would you be Steve 5 or 6 yeah yes
Starting point is 01:38:17 yes with Gartdy but like the day before oh yeah you do dart gags the day before You grow your beard out for years Just to be on a brand
Starting point is 01:38:33 Except the tape Shave your head Grow your beard Die a red No I go to the Brewing series in 2013 As Dark Eye Oh there you go
Starting point is 01:38:43 There you go It never happened Jason shows up He's like what the hell Oh man Well now if he's done it And he becomes a fan Of some other team
Starting point is 01:38:56 Becomes a Capitals fan But then he'd have a cup ring He wouldn't He wouldn't be Dark Guy But he'd be Jason with a ring I think he'd rather be Jason with a ring I don't think so I think Jason's pretty devoted to the Leafs
Starting point is 01:39:10 Yeah well now he might get to be Jason and Dark Guy With a ring Why is he getting a ring? Listen man I'm not really sure why he's getting a ring Embrace fun! Why are you yucking my yum? Alright?
Starting point is 01:39:24 it'd be great like with every little thing I change there's just little changes to the present like you know people just
Starting point is 01:39:32 eating steaks with a spoon silly things of that nature you can just change the world it's a different conversation it changes things
Starting point is 01:39:40 it's just wild I'd go see a Prince concert hey welcome to the Steve Wild Podcast I have a terrible
Starting point is 01:39:47 story about that with Adam Dangle and Jesse Blake I had no Chris your name is chris i had prince tickets in my cart when he was uh what was that last show everything's just a little different yeah i i was gonna get tickets to the roy thompson hall show in toronto like months before he passed away and they're in my cart i'm like i don't
Starting point is 01:40:12 need to spend this much on prince they were 350 dollars yeah and i was like i'll just see him next time i'll i'll have more money then and then a couple months later he does my mom said please come to this show with me please come to the show with me please you and caprice will buy tickets together and i said you know what mom we're saving up to go to england we just you know and i told her that i'm like i got an engagement ring i gotta pay for like i really don't have the money and i did but it was like you know you just want to keep your little buffer zone of money like i didn't seven hundred dollars is what it would cost there's a difference between having the amount of money you need to buy something and being able to afford it because seven hundred dollars is a
Starting point is 01:40:45 lot yes for a one night it's not even one night it's a couple hours who would spend that on Jay's playoff tickets it's asinine this conversation feels strangely familiar so
Starting point is 01:40:57 I'm just like I'll see him next time Prince is gonna do a like that big grand tour where he's gonna do all the shows and do an arena and not the Roy Thomas Hall see him
Starting point is 01:41:05 then and then it can't happen so that's why I'm dying to see the Rolling Stones one more time they're going to they're doing a football stadium tour through the United States next
Starting point is 01:41:14 summer, and last time they did the Steelers won, but this year they're not doing Hinesfield, but I'm going to go. I'm just going to find a way I'm going to go. You're going to take a private jet. Because you can afford it. He's going to roll on into there. For pissing hundies. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Yeah. Well, anyway, hey, listen, we got to go because you got to go. I do. Yeah. Otherwise your wife will divorce us. And then you. Oh, in that order. In that order. Well, we go first. I'm the least tweeted. What is it?
Starting point is 01:41:46 Oh. Are you joking? Fuck off, Jesse. Bring it on. The Leafs are with Columbus for the second time this week. Any tweets checks in to you. Say you for tonight's game. I'm done.
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