The Steve Dangle Podcast - Ryan O'Hatty | February 23, 2023

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, Ryan O'Reilly scores a hat trick from the second line (00:00), Michael Bunting vs NHL referees (13:00), our trade deadline day plans (21:00), Kane should have scored (24:00), You Can Bet That with Sports Interaction (28:00), the Sens trade Nikita Zaitsev to the Blackhawks (35:00), Steve Yzerman chats with Allan Walsh and Adam Wylde (44:00), Toronto history corner (55:00), the Coyotes need to give back the Winnipeg Jets' record books (1:01:00), and the Los Angeles Kings play in Los Angeles (1:08:00). Recorded: February 23, 2023 Visit https://sdpn.ca for merch and more. Any opinion expressed is not advice, a promise or suggestion that increases the chance of winning. Gambling can be addictive, please play responsibly. To learn more, visit: https://help.sportsinteraction.com/hc/en-us/articles/216779528-Responsible-Gaming-Self-Limitation-Self-Exclusion Or if you have concerns about a gambling problem, call ConnexOntario 1-866-531-2600. Ontario Only. Must be 19+ or older to play. Visit this episode's sponsors: https://sportsinteraction.com/sdpn onepeloton.ca/home-trial https://athleticgreens.com/sdp https://betterhelp.com/sdp Follow us on Twitter:@Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram:@SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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why didn't Keefe start Ryan O'Reilly on the third line? like you said boy were we right boy were we the correctest we've ever been oh man wow you know sometimes when you're wrong about ryan o'reilly i think it's best to own it and laugh and move on and be okay with it because he scored a hat trick yes so no i haven't been fancy oh you had a good day i had a good day myrtle is in first place in our pool his team name is eager just working oh that's funny it is funny and i'm beating him because of ryan o'reilly i thought you called myrtle the paywall he is the paywall but his team name is eager chest working yeah that's his nickname uh yeah because he plays goalie in your echlt yeah yeah yeah he had quite the showing the

other night he's throwing his head yeah oh bad showing we were not good in front of him it was threes human goalie in threes is a death sentence i don't know yeah i love threes threes is great i play threes all day and drop-ins totally good no it's unplayable no drop-ins threes is good it's fine are you you're playing team style like it's the four of you are you just playing one are you playing all the positions no no solo uh the problem is uh depending on who's playing i have to play center sometimes and i suck i suck at center it's my worst position i hate it It seems like a you problem. It is a me problem.

It's directly a me problem. I got to change my build. It's always good to experiment with your build six months after the game comes out. We were so right about Ryan O'Reilly. Well, the correctest we've ever been. And I do feel like it's worth the rewind to a couple nights ago

because obviously our first show back was a couple of games after Ryan O'Reilly came to Toronto. Now we're a couple of days removed from Ryan O'Reilly's first multi-goal game in Buffalo, a team which he played for for four years that's so funny man he went there he signed an extension he never in his time in buffalo had a multi-goal game and famously on the way out talked about losing his love of hockey and that accused the team and i don't know if i don't know if you want

to call it accusation but he said we were okay with losing we got okay with losing and i wasn't okay with it i don't remember all the specifics but i believe it no no that's what he said oh well then that's 100 what he said i i have the statement well and so it's it's funny um because that there's that very famous picture we're not very famous picture but it's making the rounds on uh twitter of ryan o'reilly scoring and the buffalo fan flipping him off remember the first i mean hey you paid for the seat yeah you can do what you want to get former saber scores a hat trick in your building yeah flip them off it's it's something that normally happens to the leafs oh all the time that is not a thing that the leafs do to other teams it's a team thing

that happens to the leafs trade guy guy goes on a tear against the leafs it's funny though it was it was a very um you could tell it was a leafs crowd because of how loud and raucous they were when they were up five nothing and then they get scored on during the middle of the wave and then all of a sudden it's a game at scotia bank arena again where it's just nervous energy right well there was a bit of a buffalo did make it interesting yeah i think i think because i saw there was a connor mckenna tweet and i like connor a lot uh he does a lot of good radio stuff in montreal um he was talking about how quiet it is in scotia bank arena and i think some fans from outside of this market mistake the quiet energy here for uh boredom oh no it's not boredom it's

just we're just a bit of a quieter city that way no it's nervous energy you think that's what it is oh it's 100 because we've been tortured for years because everyone is laser focused like dude i'm not loud i used to be one of those fans like oh you know this building's so dead and you got to be loud and then i pay attention to myself at games and no i'm like laser focused and all i'm i'm big uh react guy whoa oh i'm big react guy whoa but like i can't but i by the way i can't chance i'm paying attention to the game i'm really definitely terrified really sick of media people and it's only media people that do this especially us i'm just sick of media people yelling oh or saying oh if you yell at them to shoot they'll definitely shoot fuck off i'm going to the game

i'm telling i'm yelling shoot man also because i'm i because i get a different perspective than the player does and the player has a better perspective than i do but from my shitty perspective in this no no he's let him i'm saying shoot what does this turn into well no i i get sick of that i've heard we grew up watching thomas caberly we're right yeah i've heard several people say that on tv and i've seen them tweet and i'm like guys knock it the fuck off what's wrong with being a fan yeah and also you know who's allowed to make fun of that andrew ference because he's the only one who's ever done it in a funny way what did he do he did like a psa where he was on an outdoor rink he's like hey guys you know sometimes i have the puck and i just don't

know what to do with it and then you yell shoot and i'm like that's a good idea and then like oh it's great i just i watched uh i've watched most of welcome to rex and i'm like man if you think that's bad you should you should just go to one one british soccer game and it doesn't have to be epl it could be league two it could be nationally it could be whatever you want i posted a video on uh twitter years ago because i went to a scottish soccer game between aberdeen and hearts and i i kept trying to get a video of a goal but it ended up being a nil nil draw and so all i captured was a compilation of increasingly more angry scottish people and they're just yelling at their own team fuck off and like i just can't imagine like every time morgan riley gets the

puck or something like that oh fuck off shoot piece of shit i don't think scotiabank arena is the quietest place on earth like when we were at the playoff game last may or whenever game seven was versus tampa it was a rocking building crazy awesome and you weren't there so don't he's like me too and i can't even hear it yeah You didn't get to go. My basement was rocking. You didn't get to go. You didn't get to hear the stream.

Oh. You know what's good, though, is because of the streams, I'm never going to get to go. Yep. It was awesome being there. Yeah. And it was a great atmosphere. I think the crowd shows up for games like that. And I think it's a long-standing trope that the Scotiabank Arena is very quiet at all

times and the suits are in the thing. But that is occasionally. But I think that's gone away recently where fans are yelling more and they're more raucous. And flat out, the suits are the ones that pay for the outrageously large scouting and analytics departments that the Leafs have. I've never heard it put that way. Well, the high class facilities. I am not defending them. No, no, man.

Listen, I will take the suits if it means that we can have more expensive everything else. We can't have more expensive players, but we can have more expensive everything else. And they absolutely do. I'll take it. Do you know where this is coming from? Where? His season seats. I am a season seat.

He's one of them. I don't have season seats. is sushi in season six oh i love a good triple s hey adam rich but don't say but don't say okay hey scotia bakerita be louder but don't say shoot okay be a fan the way i don't do the wave either be a fan the way i think you should be a fan exactly how i would do it to the letter how i say you should do it you're a fan be a fan adam do you get like a vote on like how fans get to react you know as a season i get it i actually get a one-on-one with shanny every year oh and he tells me how brilliant my takes are and how you guys all take me for granted i especially

like the take where you said perhaps at the end of the season i should be fired that is something we said well i think it all depends on the results and i think that shanny and dubas and all those guys know that i think that they wouldn't need us to tell them now i So, so with, with the Buffalo game, the Leafs came out and just were ready and, and you made a really good point in your video, Steve, about Buffalo's goalie and his win loss record. You're like, wow, that's great. And then his, his, uh, I almost said ERA, his, uh, safe percentage is wow. Well, heading into the game, he was 14, I think it was 14, seven and two with an eight

98. so now i reckon he'd be 14 8 and 2 with jesse's about to look it up and i'm willing to bet it's lower if buffalo gets average goal 894 894 i don't know who's i don't even know who's a ufa goalie yet but if there's a villi husso next year uh buffalo is not just in the playoffs they are they are pushing for top three it's hard for them listen it's very difficult for them to lure free agents there trade for corral vomalka damn it trade it doesn't need to be now and this is a very uh i think arizona is easily going to be the most annoying uh team this trade deadline because all their biggest pieces they don't have to move right now at all right they don't have

because they have all the draft picks you could ever want. Well, they have all the draft picks and also these guys are under contract, right? So they don't have to trade. Somebody's got to play for them. Yeah, and Vimelka, I believe, was tended to by a trainer yesterday. I don't know if he came out of the game and Chikrin, same deal.

God, they're going to be annoying. Jesse, if I don't have my glasses on, but if that's who I think it is, I'm going to kick your butt. What do you mean? Is that Hari Sateri? No, it's not Hari Sateri. All I saw was a goalie enough hilarious no because we always talk about the buffalo sabers the goalie like situation how

it's not good but it's just that it's not good at the right time because they have so many young good goalies uka pekka who got lit up by uh the the leafs on tuesday he's a great young goal he's only 23 but he has great promise and devin levi is in their system as well dude that trade was like what trade you have to say what trade yeah no no i'm getting there okay it was kind of a disaster for the panthers so so the sabers traded sam reinhardt for i want to say it was a first round pick and devin levi who you can't win the lottery more than florida did picking devin levi in the seventh round yep then he plays at the world juniors everyone knows who this kid is this seventh round pick who had no business being on that team let alone being successful

and then they traded him he he's probably top five goalie prospect in the world i guess they thought they had spencer knight and you can't get rid of obrovsky so what are you gonna do right but sam reinhardt and when they get it out when they gave up devin levi they threw a first round pick as well yeah like two buffalo so it's like two first round picks at this point when you uh kind of average out where devin levi should have went nothing against sam reinhardt but i think even he probably wouldn't make that trade yeah well but um so their prospect pool looks good and they have another guy i pulled up his name i can't uh lineman topias so i would say topias lineman yes he was drafted second round uh this past draft who's also projected to be very good

but they're so they're babies they're literal teenagers they're literal teenagers and they can't rely on them to be good now when buffalo needs goaltending right now that's why i think vimelka is great because it'll be great for them anderson's the oldest player in the nhl literally and uh vimelka's got two years left after this what about then you hand over the reins of levi what about another year of what about the one last year of matt murray hey how about it how about it not that that contract it's like it's it's here's the thing the matt murray contract's not a problem right now because he's ltir apparently he's not done for the year but if you go through next season with him playing another just 20 games that it does present an

issue i mean i know they've got wool and i know i feel like next year you want to keep samson off you want to have wool and you want to have the matt murray contract off the ball adam you're gonna look so stupid when he wins the conspice man if he does i want to look stupid man yeah make me look stupid that's the whole thing about that we have these conversations and we're like oh the leafs are gonna lose in the first round we're not hoping that happens we're just saying it might and it probably will but like we want to be wrong about that when bunting controls his temper and then scores two goals it's like oh gotcha i'm like no that you feel bad about that stupid yeah when they lose i'm like or when they win i'm like oh good oh i need the views

i said in my last lfr video like i know if they lose i get more views but i want them to win because i'm a fan and my channel has just been a 16 year cry for help yes like i just know i need them to wish you were right about them being bad no no i'm what i when i talk about them being bad i'm talking about how they could be good i think you need to stop worrying about what anybody who says that yeah i think you need to stop being so cute you know i'm telling you man i don't think you need to worry about that because i bet 99.9 of your your viewers on lfr uh feel some can can can relate to some of or most of what you're saying anybody else who's saying that you're just doing it for views fucking cry about it babies honestly like what who the fuck yeah

honestly like like uh there's there's absolutely no proof that you steve are anti-leaps so so so what are we talking about ignore them ignore them ignore them and so um so i was so back to the buffalo game though the one thing you did mention and and you know just kind of like me with chicago i was internet mad and then the next day i was like okay i'm all right fine the only thing i was really i'm still internet mad about is the way michael bunting's being treated by the refs part of it that was so stupid part of it is michael bunting not working the system part of it is me being bitter about the fact that there's a system to work anyway but that's life so you have to do it i think you make a good point of when samson probably still isn't feeling 100 who is

The third period is It's one of those things where you go Can we not lock this down Just a little bit I got upset about the bunting Treatment in that game Because it actually affected the game If I'm not mistaken it was 5-2

So it's unlikely Buffalo will come back But it's possible Like we've seen it Not just with the Leafs We've seen it with other teams And the Leafs have a power play That should be a death sentence

and i remember being like all right six minutes ago yeah that should be it game should be done then the leafs are on the power play bunting is in a headlock he's in a headlock then he shoves uh oh man who was it i'm trying to remember uh tyson jost he shoves tyson jost to say hey fuck off get off of me then the ref blows the play dead and what do both guys get unsportsmanlike unsportsmanlike those are that's made up that is made up i gotta put you away for something so this is what i'm gonna do if you're gonna make a call like i saw some people say how about just no call i'd be more fine with no call to either of them than both of them going off because ignoring it is just something refs do all the time

making calls up what just do your job like if anything it's holding on tyson jost and if you want roughing on bunting yeah unsportsmanlike to both do your job do your job it's frustrating to me doing my job jesse does his job adam does his job you do your job at home do your job that's all you got to do look at jost he's fucking laughing he's laughing at you the leaf should be up five on three right now with five minutes to go in the game it's a death sentence but you can't do it because getting a five on three is impossible are the leafs not the only team in the league to not have a five on three this season they've never had a five on three that's crazy if i'm not mistaken uh i i don't even know where you look that up i want to say like a month ago

someone brought that stat up and i don't recall them having one maybe well andrew berkshire made a point i was talking to him it was either on game over i can't remember because it was a fever dream because of the hot sauces but but he i was talking to him at one point about the leafs in the last week and he said that he said the problem that the leafs have is that if they're not moving they don't have the speed anymore to generate the type of things that usually cause a penalty so they're they're not at the least if you look at the least they're not an overly fast team there are fast elements but fast teams do generate more penalty calls in their favor because what happens when somebody gets turnstiled is they use their stick yeah the leafs don't play

off of the rush as much as we perceive they would right their star power exactly exactly that jesse so um uh so i thought i'm like that's really interesting but what we saw against buffalo in the good moments in the real and which was most of the game yeah we saw them moving when they move when their feet are moving. Bunting's talked about that in the post-game stuff, too. When his feet are moving, he's getting the calls. When their feet are moving, they're getting the calls. And I think that that's

going to have to be something that they really work. If they're going to play Tampa, they're going to have to really move. You know what? I need to... I know why. Because you're talking about the Leafs aren't moving their feet, and that's why they're not generating calls. I know why they're not generating calls. We don't have a solo cam, so I'll look right down the barrel of the meeting.

Run over to Adams. Come on over. Because we need to have a talk! there you go Leafs Nation the next time we get a player like Bunting okay who draws a lot of penalties right shut the fuck up and I'm I'm putting that on me too I need to shut the fuck up we had Kadri we bragged about how Kadri drew the most penalties in the league and then what happen the refs stop calling anything shut the fuck up bunting leads the league and draws penalties shut the fuck up now they won't call anything and then it started to happen with joey anderson he's on waivers at the time we're recording this i don't know where he's going to end up but wherever

he ends up he's probably going to draw a lot of penalties and when he does that i need you to do me a favor and i'm gonna try to do the same shut the fuck up when you point it out they get they feel some type of way and they stop calling penalties shut up thank you also let me throw this out here out there leafs nation it's your fault joey anderson's on waivers today also david bastel's head was in front of you that entire time we're doing that thing did you put just like with the piñata he's joking i'm joking he's joking he's joking i don't know that i don't know that for sure there was no candy um okay so that made me so sad we'll do another but you know what maybe this is a good thing to do because we're um we sort of you know i would expect

sam sonoff's going to be better once you know his body sorts itself out which as we all know when you get the poops the poopadoops it takes like a week you know you got to flush it all out you imagine a professional athlete and how in tune they are with their body i won't i won't get too tmi but the morning after uh my boat with norwalk last year i it felt like my entire body was wrapped in cling wrap now go play 60 minutes on the ice oh my god i i was cramping the the my calves you know those big morning stretches you do no just like everything sees and i'm like oh my god jesus so you know uh with that said i think we should talk about we should talk about dehydrated you see we should talk about the trade deadline yeah so the sdpn is putting on its very first

trade deadline show um so next friday we're going to be breaking down every single trade as it happens we're not going to do like a big block yeah i wouldn't call it a show at all it's just a bunch of videos we're going to do a bunch of videos and then what we're going to do is we're going to package all those videos together as one podcast and then make it available on audio as well if you want to listen the next day so that it will it will still be a show we'll still do like a live element at some point but we're not going to do like you know you know everybody does like a huge eight hour extravaganza we're not doing that no we're gonna break down each trade as it comes in we're not going to break any trades because uh unless brendan minnell gets moved he

might let me text him and uh i mean sorry i can't disclose my sources um it's either brendan and now it gets traded to Eric Lindros. Eric Lindros, yeah. Eric Lindros, you want to text him to see if he's getting moves? You know, all right.

This is bullying. So we're really excited because what'll happen is essentially a trade will break. We'll do a quick recap and then we're going to upload it immediately. So if you're looking

for trade deadline coverage, we're going to have it and we're going to have a bunch of hot takes, I'm sure. I can't wait for the trade where it's like Lafferty for a third rounder. That's going to be

some hot content right off the press. But we're going to have all that stuff and I think it's kind of exciting because this is the first trade deadline that the three of us have actually got the chance to work together. Right?

Jesse did one with Tim and Sid. Steve, you've been working with Sportsnet forever on this stuff. We actually get to do it, the three of us, this time. I'm very excited. 45 seconds to shine. That's right. I am most excited for the John Klingberg to Winnipeg trade. I think it's going to happen. Yeah.

I think it's going to happen. It's hot. You know what? Hot goss. That's the move. I like to call it Jeff Merrick Christmas because he's the guy that's got the he's got the clingberg oh he's got the clingberg on lock if you want john clingberg news jeff's got jeff's clearly got multiple sources in that in there and and i think it's going to happen that trade could work but but like you got josh morrissey where did so yeah i guess he's you know what sucks is is other defensemen yeah yeah bummer i don't think you

bring john no in all seriousness though you don't you bring in john clingberg because josh morrissey could get targeted right you could have him go down an injury that's true and john clingberg relieves a little bit of that if you never use him on the power play who cares it's it's salary cap free right the playoffs are not where a salary cap exists you care about john clingberg because he moves the puck he can help you with zone exits and if if morrissey goes down or needs a day or is injured or needs less ice time or whatever then you got john clingberg you know what you sold me i don't know that just seems like an easy one and he seems like the forgotten man in terms of defenseman he's not listen he's not maybe he's not seven times seven like he would have been a

couple summers ago but he's still a really good hockey player on a dog shit depressing team dude the ducks are appalling they're terrible yeah no and troy terry's been out for like two weeks now and i don't know when he's coming back like on the timeline and they've been worse yeah shit um okay they have 17 wins the win loss in last 10 actually i don't think it's too bad right so wait they have 17 wins but three of them are in the shootout which means they have 14 wins What's the win-loss in the last 10? In their last 10? They're 3-5-2.

Okay. Which is probably better than their season average. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Chicago's won four straight, and they are fucking this up. They should have given Patty Kane that slap shot at the end of the game. I don't know if you guys saw that. I did. They should have.

So, okay. It didn't go in. Like, it didn't be the buzzer. Okay. So, on the replay, it didn't. but on the main broadcast feed it for sure so the the broadcast shot clock and the in arena time are not synced up one to one they maybe should be i don't know how accurate you can get with that we're just with technology i guess they were literally 0.1 seconds yeah and if you

if there's a picture in it the green light is on yeah that's the official it's time has expired and the puck's not and that's not in yet that's not manual that's not someone being like the time's done that's that's a computer but or whatever if life is fair he gets that ot winner yeah like what i said in the the dang it's video i recorded last night i was like what if it counted because it's cool right what about this is entertainment we just bend the rules once for a point that doesn't matter we bend the rules all the time for the refs why can't we bend them our way yeah Like, listen, I know Vegas needs the points and shit, but what if it's cool and just allow it? Yeah.

Because it's kind of neat. You know what? And it wouldn't have happened had Vegas traded for Kane already like they're supposed to. Exactly. Man. We'll talk about it after the game. I think since Chicago won in the shootout, so they won the game, they got the point anyways, right? Yeah.

So you go back and you retroactively make that goal count. Now that we know that they would have won anyways, we say the shootout never happened. and then the Patty Kane goal gets to count. I'm sold. That is pretty darn cool. I'm sold. I like me commissioner. Jesse?

I actually, you know what? I would make you commissioner before I'd make you GM of my team. Oh, that's... Whoa, now! Whoa, now! Wow! No wonder he hasn't won a cup.

Whoa! You wait. You wait. You wait when Vili Uso stonewalls the Boston Bruins in the first round of the playoffs, and he takes them in the second round all by himself. Question. Before we get into Dave, and we're getting into Dave

in just a second, I want to know, is it possible to do a multiple GM mode in NHL? No. What do you mean? Because that would be sick. Connected GM? Wouldn't it be fun if all three of you could GM a league? Oh. I'm pretty sure they don't have online GM mode.

Wouldn't that be sick? I don't think so. And you could be like tier one GM. What? Online franchise. Because like, you know, in Formula One, they actually, for Formula Two, they hired a guy who was a video game streamer because he was so good at driving because of the the because the the um the test figures are so good like the um what do they call them uh the simulations are

so good that they that a team hired him and put him in put him in the cockpit did it work i think they're working i think it's going to be for this season that's ridiculous it's pretty cool right and i mean that that's what sim work is a lot of what drivers do now there's g forces and all that stuff associated but imagine an nhl team found like a a potential assistant gm based on how good they did at nhl 23 unthinkable red dead red dead yeah send me back to 1899 so and i'll eat nothing but beans ea has not there's no connected franchise mode in nhl 23 but there isn't madden and mlb the show listen don't do that i don't know if they like us that much um but nhl if you're listening i just want to do connected gm with my boys i think that would be fun i just

want to help just simply want to help let's get into dave you can bet that with david bastel brought to you by sports interaction get in the action and make a play 19 plus please play responsibly trade deadline coming up and of course you can always always make bets on sports interactions website uh or on their app which you can download on the qr code right here in the corner um and this one's great i love this because um there are two teams that are really in on luke shen both of them are former teams dave there is a bet on where luke shen ends up what do we got yeah you know what uh earlier today adam we we added about four or five new players to that list under nhl props and luke shen is today's topic of course former maple leaf first round draft pick as

you guys know back in 2008 and yeah they're they're in the hunt the leafs and the lightning apparently in the hunt for a depth defenseman and i don't know about you guys but that's kind of the definition of a luke shen right now i don't know if you want him in the lineup every single night but as a depth defenseman not not a bad flyer you know what you have in luke shen i think he wasn't a bad flyer ah hey oh hey i see what you did there he also you know played in tampa and i believe won a cup there and i think he sure did so the thing with luke shen is it's you said this i think was it you that said this i heard somebody say this is it clever yeah it is it is really clever because it's not it's not about the leafs not being bullied it's

about them bullying other teams a little bit yeah softening them up like making it so that come game five game six game seven they're at least a little sore you want to be you want to suck to play again you have to tenderize the meat that's right and age it yeah um so uh we got okay let me let me ask you guys this then okay so you you would be comfortable with luke shen in your top six yes yeah i would bottom two bottom two i think you described it perfectly uh bottom two probably not every night okay and it depends too like are you home or away did you win the last game all that sort of stuff but i i watched luke shen at the borya salman game where borya actually came out the last time he was uh at the uh at the arena and it was against vancouver and you know

the canucks suck there's no question and the leafs dominated them but luke shen was out there every every shift throwing hits and it's just and maybe he's not a perfect like defenseman but it sucks to play against the guy like that you just hate that so as long as you're not overpaying for a guy like that and he's like you know you get him on 50 retains he's making 350 grand against the cap who cares also i have him on my fantasy team and he's been sitting out for trade related reasons and i need them back in my life so this train needs to happen pronto so here's the funny thing dave because you're you love this tampa bay is the best odds right now at four leafs at four two four who's third guys the canucks no jess stays there no jets not jets although you would expect dave

Tell him, Dave. No, no, no. The Boston Brewing. Yeah. That makes sense. Apparently, he's going to one division only. Oh, yeah. I'm not sure which one.

Florida, Buffalo, Ottawa. The next one I love because the odds are goofy. Tell us about this Ryan O'Reilly prop. Yeah, fresh off his hat trick against the Buffalo Sabres. Will he do it again? 100-1 odds O'Reilly Hattrick against the Minnesota Wild Now I watch a lot of Minnesota Wild games

And I'm not saying they've packed in their season Because they still have a chance But this is not the same Minnesota Wild team We've seen kind of building the last couple years Where I thought there'd be a lot of potential here Does he Does he score a Hattrick or more Against Minnesota

100-1 odds And it's against it, you know, he did it to the Sabres His former team The Minnesota Wild, also his former team. You guys forget that because he had to pass through Minnesota to get to Toronto. Oh, yeah. So he is a former Minnesota Wild. That's not how it works.

Yes, it is. No. I don't remember him putting on a jersey. That's why you didn't take the call at once. It doesn't actually go through the teams. He did. It's Robin Leonard. He's a former Leaf goalie.

No. That's true. Yeah. And Ryan O'Reilly is a former Wild player. He might have been nice to keep, too. Yeah, he would have been great. He would have been great. Yeah.

Nick Foligno, former Shark. Yeah, exactly. So I'm taking this one. 100% I'm taking this one. 100 to 1? 100 to 1? Yes! I'm $2 steving it, man.

Absolutely. When you first said it, I'm like, that's stupid. No way. And then you said 100 to 1, and I'm like, you have my attention. 10 bucks into 1,000? Okay, $10. Jesse, what's the... $2.

Stick to the $2. Stick to the $2. Walk out with your $200. That's right. That's right. Dave, thanks so much. And of course we're going to have tons of trade deadline props that you can take advantage of sports interaction.com.

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would sell it's costco yes if you're going to costco dyson and then and mail why not there's a nickname now arizona traded for shea weber's contract why you might be asking why why well it's probably so that they'll have enough money to hit the cap floor when they trade jake jake and this is you know like listen everybody gets mad about tampa bay being you know 20 million over we're never upset about arizona being like 20 million under but here we are uh i'm a little bit yeah i'm a little i'm a little big mad about it i actually i don't care uh but the subcast and i was saying uh the the ottawa then so arizona makes that trade with vegas okay ottawa then makes a trade that moved nikita zaitsev and his four million dollars four and a half million

dollars that contract is still going to the chicago we're also shit blackhawks and but currently hot for no reason so ottawa senators fans are rightly kind of excited because you got two teams who've been linked together for over a year over a certain defenseman that ottawa desperately needs ottawa finally moves out the space that they needed to and they needed to move on from Nikita Zaitsev and he's had a bad time there and and I I know that they're not apparently management's not thrilled about DJ Smith constantly deploying him as their top right wing or right handed defenseman um and and I don't know how you could feel any other way about it man I don't get it um and and then of course the fact is that Ottawa and Jake Chikrin have been linked forever

now there's nothing from the insiders right now on Ottawa actually being in on it but since Twitter is ablaze and the other thing that they're bringing up and i see brian five or six especially leading this charge is well if we can get chikrin why don't we just bring carlson back yeah i mean that would it would make his life it would make his life i think the biggest problem with carlson is he makes uh money um the senators seem more willing to spend money they do now so i was just looking at um zaitsev like holy mackerel um that it's bad contracts a nightmare no but also so seven years in seven years but chicago's getting him uh two million dollars of his salary has already been paid this year in the form of a bonus but on july 1st they got to give

him another two million dollars and then give him a 2.5 million dollars is it the worst contract Lou Lammarello ever signed. I mean, I feel like the Kovalchuk one should get it on principle, but he also got to stand like a final out of that. But the Kovalchuk one was at least value. And also got punished. And then the NHL went,

ah, you're not punished. So at least Kovalchuk scored goals and shit. Steve, your theory about GMs only talking to other GMs who they always talk to is so true with this deal. It's not a theory. It's what Doug Armstrong said.

And I just went, let's see if it's true. and then i ran the numbers so pierre dorian just calls up kyle davidson every couple weeks and they just chat and then they make a deal because the to bring cat trade like that's what happened it was a first and a second that went to the chicago and then now another second's going so in the past like what 10 months pierre dorian has given kyle davidson a first and two seconds like how does this work like when bill armstrong calls pierre dorian he's like hey this is bill armstrong and pierre goes who like is that your job for the second time in the show i'm begging people to do their job how they know these gms dude so i was talking to a sense fan about this

zaitsev deal and in a vacuum it's awful no it makes sense no no in a vacuum okay in a vacuum because you're you're giving up what was it a second and a fourth yeah or whatever they basically all the sweeteners the Sens got from the Leafs to take the contract in the first place, they have had to give up to get rid of it. They had to get Connor Brown, a second rounder, Zaitsev himself, all of it.

Unless you count Michael Carcone, who was in that deal, if I remember correctly. But it's, to me, it's such a bizarre deal in a vacuum that it's obvious something else is coming, right?

what do they do are they loading up like and for what it's obviously i would say it's obviously for next year but they're like also alarmingly close to a playoff spot no i think that's i think people are missing the boat in that they think something's happening imminent but this is a move to free up for the offseason to bring cat deal that has to happen this offseason he's an rfa um timmy stoots is about to go from making 900 grand to eight million dollars you have to find a way to fit that into the cap and then also they love their travis hammond who needs a new deal as well he doesn't no he doesn't need a new deal oh he doesn't no artem zoob the zoob cast he's he's doubling his salary from 2.5 to 4.6 so right pierre dorian's kind of looking down the road

and saying we need to get rid of zaitsev we need to free up this 4.5 million dollars because we have a whole bunch of contracts that are coming in a couple months well hayley salvian uh who obviously spent a significant amount of time in in ottawa no she's tweeted yesterday with all the all those contracts even uh signed and and all the raises coming that the sends will have something like 20 million dollars come free agency so go buy you're a serious player at that point so in theory uh they could do chikrin and still have 16 million dollars and just like we were talking about um with the blues last episode i don't know go out and do meyer as well what if the sends just blow all our minds and in 12 months acquire alex de brink at timo meyer and jacob

jacob claudio and if you can claudio yeah if you can keep stutzla and norris healthy you've got pretty good centers there you probably need a third center i think they're they'll be at the point eventually they're going to need a third center or ridley grigg uh takes a step yeah yeah it could be shane pinto jane pinto the pintuck well the problem is uh when it comes to these players you're gonna have to you gotta give something to get something right so if you're acquiring one or both of those players i mean you do your damnedest to make it just picks The problem with picks as the rebuilding team Is you're really committing

To being shit for a while Also Jesse's brought up The Sens page How do they do that? In terms of their picks? Yeah, so this team Odds are they don't make the playoffs They have their first

That's the most important thing They don't have a second, they don't have a third And then next year they have a first Two seconds, that's good, but no third I don't know. What are you up to, Ottawa? I can't get a read on you. And they also have the Dubas special of three seventh round picks this year.

He loves a seventh round pick. Loves it. Can't get enough of it. It's a lottery ticket. It's fun. I bet a seventh round pick is just a fun draft pick. No one expects you to win, but if you do, you'll look like a freaking genius. It's a no-lose pick.

Freaking genius. I'm curious about Ottawa. Obviously, Josh Norris going down early sucks. um uh you know you didn't have you don't have the depth with formant and gone um and you know you've got not that he's the entire depth but you know what i'm saying right there's some pieces that they could have signed that they didn't uh for reasons unknown the anton forsberg injury yeah that was real tough the cam talbot trade where you traded the better goalie for the worst goalie which i did say last year thought it was a shit trade then still do thank you i i don't know why

Because his numbers weren't wonderful, but every time I watch Philip Gustafson, I'm like, this is a talented goalie. And he's doing pretty good in Minnesota. Wow, that's crazy. A goalie on a shit team at shit numbers. That's wild. Wild.

Anyway. Well, it is wild, you see. Yeah, Minnesota. It's Minnesota. Home of Ryan O'Reilly. Yes, former wild Ryan O'Reilly. That is how it works. That's not how it works.

The three GMs do the trade call at the same time. Which means he has to pass through Minnesota. His contract passes through the wild system It happens concurrently No one passes through anything They both happen simultaneously Don't worry he's right here It's Gary to tell you you're wrong

As a general manager In the National Hockey League I understand That there are misconceptions About how these trades work But it is not that one trade happens And then the next trade happens No we're all together on the phone

The NHL trade office They happen simultaneously. Yes, but the contract still has to pass through the team. It doesn't pass through. It goes to. No, it goes directly to. No, because it has to go through one door to go to the next door. A team has to have the contract on its books to retain on it.

Yes, they take that directly from that. That's not how that works. Yes, no, because the trades happen simultaneously. Even if it's a high five, he's still a member of the wild organization for a split second. No. Tell me I'm wrong. i am i am directly telling you no comment section back me up on this one you guys are always really good to me yeah but you can say that you can say that but it doesn't make it true

it is true jesse it's true you know what we're gonna have a capologist on one of these days so they can explain how this fucking thing works and i want to ask them that question a real no that's just should we get that's how the trade calls did ever let lawrence gilman do an interview and just be like lawrence tell us about the cap fucking no okay also you're looking for brandon pridham oh and also fucking also we're not talking about the cap talking about our trade call it's retained against the cap jesse yeah but you're focusing on the retaining number i'm telling you how a trade call works why didn't you ask steve eisenman about this i should have on asian provocateur with the actual steve eisenman even though everybody thought it was

bill clinton when i tweeted it out i thought i texted jesse like jesse okay jesse i want i want to have okay so there's this really famous clip uh bill clinton saying uh congratulations to the detroit red wings uh 1997 stanley cup champions blah blah blah and he looks down he's like a general manager ken holland and and they the illage family and uh captain steve you zerman and and i thought that that was a clip that everybody knew so i tweeted it out and then freaking everybody's like so you got bill clinton on agent provocateur i'm like you wise ass and then jesse retweets and goes it's true bill clinton will be on agent provocateur it's a good clip i don't know if it's a good clip here it is great clip

to the team captain steve azerman and uh all the red wings to uh to there's such an awkward pause And there is people in the audience that laugh Like outwardly So you tweeted that and said this guy is coming on the show And everyone went What? And then it was weird we were featured on Tucker Carlson Last night it's crazy no I'm kidding

It's a It's a great interview though Steve Eisenman was Just like Just like other General managers can be Silent can be difficult to ask questions of and he came on and he was awesome did he give you any one word

answers no but he's known for that like uh like armstrong in st louis known for that and we had him on and he chatted and i think it's because we weren't asking about like the trade deadline or like who are you gonna trade stevie like i'm not gonna sit there and ask him that and alan is for sure not gonna sit there and ask him that it's because that's not what that show is it's not that you've had three gms on it's the it's like you and alan are on a mission to get only the most guarded gms on like ron hextall doug armstrong steve eiserman get lou next oh man you want to talk about get him you want to talk about a guest that i would app i would i would do backflips for it's easy it's easy to get lou just get him it's easy it's not easy to get lou and only ask him

about like the zaitsev contract and like the kovalchuk contract how did you get out of being punished after you were punished how did you retroactively get off the hook we're not gonna get that so people people are like you know sometimes when we do that it's like how come you don't ask these gms about trades all the time and actually stevie does talk about trades does talk about negotiation alan asked him about his opinion on analytics too and i think he gives a really interesting answer on the analytics thing because it's not he's not one of those like analytics deniers people but he does talk about the well he's not analytics truther truther yeah is that a success well i mean it sort of is but uh for some people but it's very in 2023 it's

gone the full loop he's funny he's talked he does talk about like the value of it and the advancements in it and and what we're figuring out is because you know back in the day it was like Corsi and Fenwick were the thing. And now teams don't pay attention to Corsi and Fenwick anymore. They got more advanced, more probably drilled down stats that they're looking at.

Did you try to catch him off guard with anything? No. So Steve, you got any plans for the week? Are you treating Bertuzzi? Where's the Larkin deal? He did mention Dylan Larkin. He does mention the, you know, Jonathan Drouin in Tampa.

And I also really liked that there was a celebrity in there. And I'm going to, this is my tease. There's a celebrity in there that he loves that he was at the same event as and was too afraid to introduce himself and i thought steve eiserman is too afraid to do anything like like there's not a guy that you would expect to be filled with fear but uh i play the analyst yeah sure play it all right stevie why on asia sorry jesse who is uh this steve eiserman what's

your general philosophy and overview on analytics right now you know i'm reading a book right now called the mvp machine you might have read it so based on analytics and baseball or in baseball and you know the way they play the way their teams were constructed and it's really really interesting when i first got to tampa again they had a small analytics department and really interesting guys and that was all new to me and i kind of picked their brain on it and it was just really at the infants infant stages of of it a lot has changed in the the last 10 to 12 years i still think hockey is in the infant stages of analytics i think we're all still trying to figure out what's really important what what has value what doesn't have value and it takes time to look

back you know there's some statistics that have names that have been created based on shots on goal and things like that they were all the rage a few years ago maybe not as much for teams now so i think we're all trying to figure out how to use it but the simple basics of i think in the business world they've been looking at things data wise analytics wise forever whether it be contracts player production and things or uh in hockey now we've done sports started to take all that data and just look at it subjectively uh without even or like factually as as opposed to just watching the game and predicting this player's gonna score this or that and uh or he's worth this or that you look at a lot of the data from on everything and it's being applied to hockey now

but i really do think based on what i've seen in baseball and what they're doing in some of the other sports uh we're still trying to figure out what's got value that's really what i think and it's but i do think it's important to you know we look with our eyes and our experience and all that you look at it from an analytic perspective it forces you to re-evaluate what does the data tell us um is it supporting what we're saying is it contradicting what we're seeing and if so why but i you know again hockey is the nhl is getting in we got the puck tracking and player tracking on the ice you know maybe some teams are way ahead we're still trying to figure out what it what it's telling us you know now based on how the rebuild is going i would imagine that they're

doing pretty darn well uh but i just it's pretty cool it was i sat down and somebody actually in the comment section it's like adam did you ever think you'd interview stevie eiserman in your pajama or in your uh track pants and i said that's yeah how did you know you're wearing your rachel's raiders jersey yeah how did they know you were wearing track pants well because i'm always wearing track pants it's my house but i i do i didn't want to say it is minus five celsius lululemon's bare feet it's well it's because cold is funny guys that's the thing cold is fine no you're every comedy club you'll walk into it's cold it's also a little colder than it should be no man cold is funny you see jesse and i like freaking that's why they're

always wearing sweaters here yeah middle of summer i got a hoodie on yeah because we got it's funny uh but and long story short i thought it was it was just pretty cool to just sit there and i i sat down and i thought man and this is just a weird moment but i'm like how lucky am i to sit here and most of it alan's alan and him have a relationship so i'm like i'm just gonna jump in with a couple questions here and there like i asked him about his spotify like gym workout playlist um and i gotta say like i just it was just fun to sit there and listen it took me back to my childhood because uh when the red wings dynasty was kicking off uh of the 90s that's when the leafs were kind of ass oh and also that was right around the time chris draper visited

the classroom that's right so there was like a a few years where i was like as much a red wings fan as a lease everybody was a sort of red wings fan uh in southern ontario at that point everyone I had a little Osgood figurine doll That I used to play with A little goalie and I used to take off his mask And be like oh his mask fell off And he's still saving pucks You were that kid

What a saver I don't know how it happened I guess because they were so dominant But yeah everybody in southern Ontario was a Red Wings fan For a little I had the VHS Of their first Stanley Cup run With you know

it was like konstantinov was interviewed in it before the car accident great story uh uh it is it is and it like i remember one thing about like stevie eisenman i guess um after one of their games against colorado in the western conference final chris draper says like listen stevie came in he wasn't happy with us he didn't yell he didn't scream he just kind of he said he gave us a bit of a talk which you expect was a pretty serious talk given what you know about steve eisenman and the fact that he was an intense guy and uh they went out there and won the game in the third period it's just i don't know you could feel uh and jesse you recorded the whole thing with stevie you could feel like this guy fucking knows this game inside of god seventh all time

nhl scoring yeah and you realize why tampa built such a great organization and then detroit's like on their way to getting to where tampa is now like you can see just his how his brain works in hockey and how he just knows everything yep you know within the game it's a it's a great watch Highly recommend it for everybody Go check it out Your favorite podcast feed Agent Provocateur Subscribe, give it 5 likes

Now before we get into the press conference here We got a short press conference ahead I want to talk about somebody named Nathan Werner Who Instagram DM'd me Hey Adam I just listened to the end of the Monday pod Where you guys were talking about Toronto's history I have a degree in Toronto's regional historical planning

How the frig do you get a degree in that? because we know nothing by the way about toronto's history nobody in toronto knows anything about toronto history except for nathan um he's i currently work for a city councilor in midtown here are some facts if you ever want to do a toronto history corner so i'm just going to throw this at you so this blew my mind the first one maple leaf gardens how long did it take to build maple leaf gardens how long would you expect you see how quick how long it takes condo buildings to go up maple leaf gardens is no joke and with 1920s technology five years five years it was five years yeah 167 days what they built it in a summer it took 167 days to build maple leaf gardens with

the groundbreaking march 1931 and it was ready for the lease season opener in october of that year he said which is insane given the scope of the project what the fuck yeah but also it was in the 1920s so it was probably like an army of like 13 year olds getting paid three cents for sure a day absolutely yeah um and i we've talked about this on the show before he said harold ballard actually turned off the water fountains during the beatles first performance in maple leaf gardens so the fans were forced to buy water and actually fountain drinks as well ballard also put in a very very fine print that the beatles had to play a second show despite the beatles having a show booked the next day in the montreal forum so they did play back to back on the same day and they

they talked about walking away from the contract but john lennon apparently said to them um listen guys we've been doing this in liverpool for years it was like 1964 they just become a just gotten out of being a club band he's like we can handle this so they did wow uh davenport road is one of the oldest pre-colonial roads in toronto with its use dating back to 3400 bce it was mainly used as a portage trail between the dawn and humber rivers by indigenous communities in the area in true british colonial fashion the government took over and installed toll booths in the early 19th century because there was so much traffic on the road um and uh one of the five toll booths actually still exists at bathurst and davenport today oh wow and he said re the portlands because

we were talking about the redevelopment right jesse you brought that up they're actually completely repositioning the mouth of the dawn river so that the south running water doesn't hit a 90 degree angle when it when it uh when it hits the water and cause flooding uh it's a huge step towards climate resiliency the river and surrounding park will most likely be done by summer 2024 with the planned community being completed by the end of the decade sooner than you think that's all for me love the show wow wow is that crazy that's awesome now that's somebody that knows their city hi i know exactly what you're talking about and here's exactly what you wanted to know like what are the odds there are times there are times we talk about stuff on

this show like we'll talk about like a video game and somebody will be like hey i was a writer on that video game or we'll talk about you know uh a country and somebody's like oh malta i'm from there and i live there currently and listen to your it does blow us away um who listens to this show so thank you so much for sending that stuff and i just thought you guys would find that cool that's unreal that's awesome do the press conference hey if you think you know which way it's gonna go and maybe you think you do maybe you're like jesse you're like ryan o'reilly is gonna be a leaf and we're like jesse what do you know you did sort of know that i wish i bet on it I don't like that so much.

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The Presser SDP. the steve dangle press conference i often tell adam wild hey i want to bring something up on the show and then he forgets oh so then i bring it up oh the jets thing and then i bring it up in the press conference so we we get to it eventually it's just uh it happens uh when we do the press go ahead sorry buddy what do you got all right so this one is from rob uh plumser Rob tweeted me a very interesting thing that happened over the weekend. By the way, that feels like a name that Jesse made up. Rob Plumzer.

I eat pizza every day? No, I was just about to say that! I wanted to say plumber, so then that's why it took me a second. So Rob tweeted me something very interesting about the Jets and Josh Morrissey. All right, got it here now. Josh Morrissey over the weekend broke the record for points in a season by a defenseman. for the jets for the winnipeg jets yep it's time to get mad steve knows where this is going josh morrissey broke the record by having 56 points in a season i would have thought phil

housley would have had more yeah it would have been crazy would have been crazy if phil housley had that record uh josh morrissey broke dustin bufflin who had the record for the winnipeg jets He had 56 points Justin Bufflin also had 53 A couple times Jacob Truba had 50 You know Because the Phil Housley record

Is where Jesse The Phil Housley record That you're talking about of 97 points In a season that he did He broke the record with the Winnipeg Jets Top 10 all time Is a Phoenix Coyotes record And Josh Morrissey broke the

Winnipeg Jets record where they take the atlanta thrashers records and they are now jets records and he is officially the franchise leader of points in a season for a defenseman when he should have been breaking the phil housley record that is 97 points in a season uh jock marsh he wouldn't need 98 to be the franchise leader or 97 to tie but he does not get to break that record because an arizona coyote gets to break that record and the nhl is stupid the record belongs to the city it happened and I know there's problems with that. Somebody pointed one out.

I was like, well, that sounds a little problem. I don't know. I don't remember what it was. Somebody said, I don't get your take on this. And they actually made it.

They did make a solid point. I, at least I remember there was something with it, but at the end of the day, at the end of the day, that it should belong to the fans. How annoying are the fans? How annoying is that for the record?

Like any, literally any Winnipeg Jets record. You're not allowed to get excited about it. Basically. No. Cause every time you break a record, Oh, Morrissey broke a record.

And every person in the building is like, well, no, because he didn't. Well, like when Kyle Conner sets the record, he'll beat Danny Heatley. Yep. Or Ilya Kovalchuk. No, they celebrated this record on, what was it, Saturday he broke it? Yeah. They celebrated it. It's an accomplishment for him and the franchise.

They should. But it's not. It's not at all. Phil Housley is a great Winnipeg Jet. That city knows that, man. We can't just pretend that didn't happen. Thomas Steen was never captain there. that we're all pretending that that didn't happen in winnipeg howard chuck never played

winnipeg 97 points in a season never did it happen yeah but they've got enough but they've got the howard chuck statue outside but he's not a jet he's a jet but he's not a jet but he's a jet but he's not a jet solani yeah i think like okay garbage for garbage for the arizona coyotes like i think it's very weird to care coyotes i don't think coyotes fans care do they care i think some of them some of them obviously do because they reached out to you and said well no because i think that was just a general take it wasn't coyotes fans i don't want to put that on them okay okay fair enough i i don't know yeah why would a coyotes fan right now care about phil housley i don't think they care give it back to the city well and and it's it's sort of one of

those things where again what do we do this for who are we doing this for the fans yeah so who does it belong to the fans it's it's like um it's the it's the something i the that i learned in school if you can believe i learned anything um the the reality of like somebody was an author was talking about a book and they say as soon as i release this book it doesn't belong to me anymore it belongs to those who read it as soon as you release a song it doesn't belong to you anymore it belongs to those who who listen to it and their interpretation and how it hits them and how it makes them emotionally react wasn't that when you have her with uh this is america no i mean it was this was something i learned in university but yeah i'm sure he would feel

the same way i feel like these records like again the fans always come last place when it comes in this shit and i always feel like this record matthews scoring 60 yes it belongs to matthews but it belongs also to the fans who love and adore the leafs no and and you know what i mean there's some ancient there's some like 103 year old toronto arenas fan who's like excuse me that belongs to me means belongs to booby booker the way the nhl looks at it it belongs to the owner and if he moves his team to another city he has to take his records i'm taking my records like that's bullshit i'm taking my records to miami fart lots of fart like the sorry oh go ahead well you you brought up the jets top 10 points by defenseman i didn't bring that up i did not

bring that up i brought up the the he brought up the jets not the jets phil tweeted me the top 10 points getters of the phoenix coyotes according to the official record book of the nhl and they are all winnipeg guys except for one except for one guys like i'm saying he's talking about the jets not the jet right you need to understand that he's talking when you're talking about the jets make sure you're talking about the jets and not the jets i just i can't winnipeg i can't get past this one thing that for some reason is sticking out on the screen what is it phil houseley first place 97 points minus 14 phil houseley second place 86 points minus 5 phil houseley third place 78 points or no sorry 76 points minus 13 dave babbage third uh fourth

place 74 points minus 8 dave babbage fifth place 68 points minus 9 frederick olison sixth place 62 points plus six let's fucking go oh number seven frederick olison again 62 points minus 31 dave babbage eighth place 62 points minus 15 randy carlisle 56 points minus 20 and keith yandel 59 points plus 12 dude only two of the top 10 scoring seasons from a defenseman in that franchise's history are a plus how the fuck weird how weird anomaly yeah how is that possible it's weird and don't shut up i know the power play but how is that possible that's wild yeah also i accidentally called uh rob who tweeted me phil because we're talking about phil housley wrong correct sorry rob anyways i just want to say keith yandel most responsible defenseman

anyway every time i see that shit it fucking pisses me off and to be clear yandel was on the jets not the jets that's right that's right uh hey um do you have any quick questions before we have to roll here uh yeah let's end on this quick note if i can pull it up um here we go this is lebron james talking about the los angeles kings okay I would love to at some point down the road on an NBA franchise and be able to bring a winning franchise to a city. Like I said, Vegas is a really cool city, and they're doing some great things in sports these days.

Obviously, you see what the Aces are doing. You've got the Raiders there. You've got the Kings there, the hockey team. They're doing a lot of great things down there. So, you know, we will see what happens. If you want to be taken seriously By one of the biggest athletes in the world You must first take yourself seriously

And we discuss at length on this podcast About how the NHL does it That's humiliating Is it? The Los Angeles Kings play in the same building as lebron james lebron james has to walk by like the king's logo he plays in a building with their banners not only do they play in the same building the kings are the owners of the are they the staples of crypto.com center actually the lakers are the tenants there's a reason yeah there's a

reason that the banners for the kings hang in the rafters and the lakers ones are on the wall like the kings built this arena gretzky built that arena gretzky built this arena you gotta you gotta know that the kings are in la and not in vegas could just be a slip up it was i mean yeah he also doesn't know but here's the thing he doesn't need to know that's the difference yes yes if he needed to know that's a very good point an nhl player needs to know where the nba franchises are lebron does not need to know where the whose hockey is where and that's a bummer because it's such a great game yeah one day lebron is going to own an nba franchise in vegas they're expanding and he wants to be part i bet he's i bet within a i bet within

a year or two unless brawny makes it and then he's going to stick around not that quick i don't think he's going to retire that no he needs to retire to own a team you can't be a player owner um but like it's going to happen whenever they do expansion to 32 and they'll seattle get a team back or whatever but like it's it's a little funny that he's trying to shout out the city of vegas and get like those people in the city to join him so that they'll support his bid for a franchise and he can't learn the hockey team's name doesn't need to doesn't need not that he can't is that he doesn't doesn't need to because this won't affect anything nope they'll be like whatever it's lebron let's get him on board yeah and with that we will wrap but we will be back

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