The Steve Dangle Podcast - Shaved Steve | April 18, 2025

Episode Date: April 18, 2025

Join our playoff bracket challenge: https://app.sparc.fun/b/sdpnbracket On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, 00:00 SportChek! 07:00 Leafs win game 82 10:30 Looking at the end of season sta...ndings 30:00 Most impressive team this year 46:00 2 minute previews of each series 1:10:00 Steve's beard again 1:23:00 Fleury VS Duhaime 1:34:00 POINT A GAME Watch Steve Dangle LIVE at SportChek at Maple Leaf Square: April 20th tickets: https://sdpn.ticketspice.com/steve-dangle-x-sportchek-april20 April 22nd tickets: https://sdpn.ticketspice.com/steve-dangle-x-sportchek-april22 April 24th tickets: https://sdpn.ticketspice.com/steve-dangle-x-sportchek-april24 April 26th tickets: https://sdpn.ticketspice.com/steve-dangle-x-sportchek-april26 Visit this episode's sponsors: Visit your local Tim Hortons, or download the Tims App, to start collecting their NEW Retrospective Rookies Hockey Cards. Every pack features current and retired NHL and PWHL players from their Rookie year, plus the chance to win prizes like autographed jerseys. Upgrade your wardrobe and save on trueclassic at trueclassic.com/DANGLE Find your push. Find your power with Peloton at onePeloton.ca Subscribe to the sdpn YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@sdpn?sub_confirmation=1Join - SDP VIP: YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0a0z05HiddEn7k6OGnDprg/join Apple Podcasts: https://apple.co/thestevedanglepodcast Spotify: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/sdpvip/subscribe - Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.BlakeJoin us on Discord: https://discord.com/invite/MtTmw9rrz7 For general inquiries email: info@sdpn.ca Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:02:23 Get ready to up your spring style and look cool like me. Level up your clothes. TrueClassic.com slash Dangle. Shop now and elevate your wardrobe today. Well, hi there. I just want to congratulate the Toronto Maple Leafs. They won their first playoff game last night.
Starting point is 00:02:50 All right. All right, Scotty Lawton with the first playoff goal win. I didn't even know the Red Wings had made the playoffs. Me neither. That felt great. They looked it. It was like 1993 all over again. Nikolai Borchewski.
Starting point is 00:03:02 Man, neither of those teams tried, eh? No. No, they didn't. No, they didn't. We will talk about the games. We will talk about the matchups. We have series previews coming out right now, which is amazing. But first, we must start with the annoncement,
Starting point is 00:03:18 which Steve made yesterday on the channel. It is going to be us down at SportCheck at Maple Leaf Square. We're going to be on the second floor. We're going to be hanging out at the sports desk that's created there. And here's how it's going to work. You're going to get a $15 food voucher. So you can reserve that now. The link's in the description.
Starting point is 00:03:37 And then, and obviously, there's a limited amount for capacity reasons. And then beyond that, and this is what's really cool. So there will be some sound things that we have to worry about, right? So we're going to play the game in the store. you're gonna build a watch which is great and then during the game steve has to go to the sport check blue room to to do his little performance his little watch along i gotta go all the way back to agent no you don't have to go all the way back to oh no and and so you're gonna be doing that in the blue room at sport check god which is cool god and then uh first
Starting point is 00:04:11 two games jesse will be in the arena so we're gonna facetime him in at intermission steve will come out intermission we'll do everything from the desk which will be cool uh and by the way the The desk overlooks Maple Leaf Square, which is the sickest. It is pretty sick. And then during the games three and four, Jesse will come out and be with us the entire time because Jesse isn't traveling to Ottawa with the Leafs. They didn't pay for his ticket. It's super weird.
Starting point is 00:04:31 Yeah. The Via Rail was a little too much budget for SDPN. Yeah. So Jesse's going to have to hang out with Steve and I. He's going to have to slum it. We get a Via Rail sponsorship? It'd be cool. I love a Via Rail trip.
Starting point is 00:04:45 I love a Via Rail trip, too. I love the bubble car. But anyway, sport check. We're going to be there. We're going to be hanging out. You can get your tickets now, your vouchers now, in the description of this video. The other thing that's going on, so we're going to be, and this is what's really key to our scheduling here.
Starting point is 00:05:02 So we've got the stream Sunday, and then Monday we have the SDP. Yeah, the schedule came out since our last show. Yeah, so we figured all that part out. so we're going to be down there doing the sdp at sport check yes so if you're in the area you want to hang out we're going to be there doing the sdp uh and we will do an sdp after every leaf game we always do this uh if you're new to the show you might not know this but let's say the game was on saturday will we be doing sdp sunday but this week the way that it's worked out it's great we're monday wednesday friday so we're going to be down there at sport check at maple leaf square every
Starting point is 00:05:40 single day and yes i am doing uh a uh a series myself we just haven't quite decided yet and this is i wanted to bring it up because here's the thing guys i could do edmonton or i can do montreal uh no you should do uh vegas minnesota that has an 11 o'clock eastern that's a crazy one which is like okay forget us southeast i get it it's 10 in minnesota i know that's a wild what did they do to deserve that now uh the other thing i want to mention before we get into it is the sdpn bracket challenge is open hooray and and here's what's so great so we're we are gonna have prizes we have literally thousands of people that have already signed up which is amazing it's awesome over 3 000 over 3 000 yeah yeah that's over 3 000 like yesterday awesome
Starting point is 00:06:26 yeah so great um and by the way you have until the leafs games start on sunday to sign up so you can sign up at any time between now and then uh you're going to choose the winner of all 15 matchups the series length in each first round series uh sorry 16 matchups yeah i don't know why it says 15 and answer the tiebreaker question once your bracket is submitted your picks are final and you have until seven o'clock sunday night eastern standard now once the tournament begins you're going to be able to follow your picks in real time and you can see your score updated as the games are decided so you get three points each correct first round series length selection only when you get the winner correct though so if you say it's seven games and you pick
Starting point is 00:07:05 montreal but the capitals win you don't get you don't get points for that uh 10 points each correct first round pick 25 each correct second round pick 50 each correct third round pick and 100 points each correct fourth round pick i mean that would be the the final so uh so you'll get to do all that uh starting well right now you can also look link in the description of this video or the audio wherever you're doing it uh but we wanted to make those two announcements out there Because this is going to be really exciting. And you're going to be able to peek at Drew and Jesse and Steve and myself. I think Justin Fisher is going to be on there.
Starting point is 00:07:41 Christina Weber, our VP of sales, is really upset that she was not included in this. So maybe we should put her on there too. It's not too late. No, it's not too late. She hasn't been like not included. Yeah. Well, she was like, well, wait a second. You announced all of them.
Starting point is 00:07:52 But what about me? What if people want to see my picks? You know what? I think it'd be funny if she smoked us. Oh, listen. What did they say? I think it was the other day. For a Stanley Cup.
Starting point is 00:08:00 i think i saw this on the nhl account for a stanley cup perfect bracket it's like 0.003 chance of being perfect oh it's impossible so you have really no matter what your knowledge is you have as good a chance as anybody yep you really do uh and that's what's going to be so fun about this there will be prizes we've got some really cool stuff uh but i can't say quite yet what it's going to be but you know the stuff we've given away before think more of that and bigger there you go how's that it's adequate adequate is that an adequate answer okay all right so now that we got all that done let's talk about the just the sizzling crazy so high intense Leafs Detroit game last night okay so let's just lay it bare Detroit got goals from Austin Watson and Justin Hall
Starting point is 00:08:48 the play of the night was a goal from Philip Myers there was a goal with an extra attacker that was Pontus Holmberg and Mitch Marner assisting on a Chris Tanev goal. And then in overtime... And Chris Tanev laughing about it. And laughing about it. And then in overtime, it was Scott Lawton from Dakota Mermis.
Starting point is 00:09:08 That's how the playoffs will go. That is the most Game 82-ass game I've ever heard of. Jesse, how much fun did you have being down there in the arena? It was the easiest game to watch all year long because it meant nothing. And all the guys knew nothing was on the line.
Starting point is 00:09:25 it's a weird game you know the the coaching staff you're kind of just going through the motions you're doing everything you usually do but then the players they're like how do we try you know because you don't want to try too hard and get injured you don't want to try too hard and do anything because the game doesn't matter so it's very odd but it was easy you know just kind of watch and have fun it's like a preseason game so you probably missed this because you were at the game but uh mike johnson on tsn highlighted a play i think it was early in the third period Like, John Tavares dangled someone in the corner. I don't remember who it was.
Starting point is 00:09:54 I'm going to say JT Comfort. And he dangled him because I'm not going to engage you on the body. Like, I'm not going to hit you. But because he dangled him, he hit him. He was like, hey, hey, don't make me look stupid. Yeah, yeah. What are you doing? We have a gentleman's agreement out here, and you made me look stupid.
Starting point is 00:10:14 So now I'm going to hit you. I think it looks bad on Detroit, on their side of things, to lose this game in that fashion. You think so? when nothing's on the line, you can go all out. Your season's over, but you're not competing this weekend in the playoffs or anything, so you shouldn't be losing these types of games.
Starting point is 00:10:32 You think they should have won this, eh? When you're up with two seconds to go, I think you should win a game. I feel like you should close out a game when you're in the lead with two seconds left, and they weren't able to hold that lead. It's incredible that the Leafs won that game. I'm trying to find the standings on NHL.com.
Starting point is 00:10:51 It's already unavailable because of the playoffs. I think the Leafs have 106 points. Every time I go to defend that website, it lets me down. They could just leave it up. I don't understand. Just leave it up. Just stop reinventing the wheel. You got it?
Starting point is 00:11:03 There it is. Okay, I don't know why I couldn't find it on mobile. But no, what I was trying to figure out is, could Detroit have even moved up or down with a win or a loss? Did they do themselves a favor by losing and making their lottery odds? worse I've told the story many times I went to the Leafs final game of the season and they won and because of that win their draft pick went from fifth overall to seventh the Red Wings moved from a tie for 21st place to a solo 21st place because they would have been tied with the Rangers
Starting point is 00:11:41 at 85 points in league standings and they moved one point ahead of them and they got 86 points It's only the top 12 teams, or sorry, the bottom 12 teams that are in the lottery, right? Am I right on that? Yeah. I thought it was every team who didn't make the playoffs. Oh, okay. Well, let me check that. You're thinking about the odds to move up to first, right?
Starting point is 00:12:02 Yes, yes. Every team's in the lottery. The poor Calgary Flames, dude. 15th in the NHL, tied in points with the Blues, but they lose the tiebreaker. They are ahead of the Devils, the Habs, obviously the Canucks. Utah Columbus who narrowly missed the playoffs is in 20th fun fact above the Red Wings fun fact that's not fun at all if you're a Calgary Flames fan those 96 points are the most points ever to not make the playoffs are you serious wow wow dude that stinks that stinks that's 14 overtime
Starting point is 00:12:38 losses it's their own fault yeah it is they do lose yo that isn't this the same Calgary Flames team that well it's not the same team but didn't they lose like 17 in overtime a few years ago and missed the playoffs there was something there was some crazy stat about how many otl points they had i seem to remember that dude seven one and two in their last 10 and they gained negative one points on the blues wow wait no i'm wrong they gained a point on the blues yeah that sucks man yeah well so it is it is sort of interesting you know when you look at what you got steve do you know the other teams that had 96 points and did not make the playoffs there there's three other teams in history and they're very recent they're very recent yeah 96 is the record calgary ties it
Starting point is 00:13:22 and they tie three other teams i want to say wasn't it detroit last year no oh it's got to be penguins incorrect it's got they are all atlantic teams yeah i figured so so could it be this it's not the sabers it is not the saber yeah so you're running out of atlantic teams i mean it's not because it's funny it's not the leaves no the lightning it's not the light what i think you've guessed all the habs except for the three it's the panthers habs and bruins unbelievable wow it's the 1819 canadians i don't remember that team they were pretty good yeah i know i don't really yeah they had 96 points the 1718 panthers had 96 points did not make it and the 1415 bruins oh because they like took a year off
Starting point is 00:14:18 from relevance yeah and then immediately roared back so those are the other three teams with 96 points how crazy is that yeah all atlantic i think that's a weird thing that is a weird thing all atlantic teams but yeah calgary's got a lot to be proud of i think with that also uh our good friend nick andrade decided to live bet the flames in the last game when they were down three to one and he won a hundred bucks oh my god he's like should i live bet the flames and he went on you put 20 bucks on them and i'm like you're out of your mind you're out of your yeah two dollars steve yeah it's ten times two dollars two dollars steve would not be doing that um but he won a hundred bucks so yeah i think the um i think what i want to kind of focus on to start is not the
Starting point is 00:15:01 series themselves because we obviously have our series previews coming out we'll talk a little bit about brackets and stuff like that but i want to talk about the teams in the middle because as a leaf fan uh especially in the end of like my formative years so like 18 to 22 right the leafs had this nasty habit of finishing just outside of the playoffs by a point or two and getting a mid-round pick now the leafs did themselves no favors by doing terrible things with their draft picks right uh but i'm thinking about seasons where you know where jso ben goes on a on a run and the leaps missed by a point or js jaguar goes on a run and the leaps missed by a point um i want to know who these teams are so who are our our mighty middle teams that need to
Starting point is 00:15:49 like who could have benefited from just giving up because there's a lot of once march hits you get a lot of what the sabers did yeah which is oh we went on it's like a mirage you win a lot of games we saw it from the vancouver connects about two three years ago with bruce budro taking over right uh and they turned out to be a good team but obviously you know they had the one playoff run and they are where they are this year so what teams are sort of in the middle jesse can we bring me bring up the east and the west without wild card well this is what the power of hindsight right but like okay the flames for example we'll take the two teams that just missed the flames and the blue jackets i don't think it would have made sense for either of them to sell um like they were
Starting point is 00:16:33 they had the flames had sold they were well they were in the mix though yep you know what i mean flames were in the mix blue jackets were in the mix um blue jackets already have like all their young guys i don't know what are we what are we selling off for they actually added i think they traded it was like a fourth round pick for luke cunning nah they'll be fine it's that's worth a fourth round pick fine um calgary i'm not totally sure what they would have done vancouver's the obvious one like they were in the mix they were but hindsight being 2020 now you're losing brock for nothing and you sewered him at the press conference saying oh man you should have seen what i was offered for him why not that is the easiest layup for patrick alvin you know what no
Starting point is 00:17:24 i believe in this group and we're keeping brock and he's going to help us make the playoffs that's all you had to say you would have looked stupid today i guess did you see that he was photographed driving out with a jersey that everybody on the team signed yeah supposedly it was for his uh girlfriend's mother which is nice it's it's very nice uh so depressing can we bring those standings up jess can we throw them all yeah oh you got it because i i think when i when i look at this i'm like okay so in the western conference flames it made sense you had a high goaltender you go for it 41 wins 96 points there's only other three other teams that ever done that's crazy vancouver steve just made his point about then i then it falls off a little bit
Starting point is 00:18:07 with the utah hockey club they were i think their situation's unique they have enough draft picks yeah they have enough prospects uh you gotta kind of go for it let the cards fall where they fall i think the ducks are a lot better and they're 80 points they're a lot better than yep uh people have given them credit for they had a really strong second half um seattle is a team that was sort of in the mix and sold to hell so they did it right now they're gonna get a pretty good pick out of this i honestly see no problems with kind of any of the teams any team in the west that if you were nashville i guess you believe that next year you can bounce back yeah right nashville like we all had them in the playoffs yeah so what they did i don't think you you sell the farm like
Starting point is 00:18:54 you're not tanking right because you believe that this can be a quick rebuild to get back to where you should have been next season speaking of teams that we had in the playoffs jesse the chicago blackhawks thoughts the chicago blackhawks are what the montreal canadian i thought the blackhawks would be the canadians this year like the way the canadians uh surprised everybody and made the playoffs like i was trying to predict which team was going to be that team this year and i and i was wrong i was wrong on which team it was going to be i thought the sharks would have been where the ducks were i thought the blackhawks would have been where the canadians were next year i just gotta get better at predicting what that team's gonna be that's pretty hard to do a lot of a lot
Starting point is 00:19:33 of the sharks being bad and this is going to sound very truthy of me i mean listen their goal differential was minus 105 that's crazy um but i feel like so much of it was kind of artificial like mckenzie blackwood was playing great and then they went and acquired alexander georgiev who like i'm not i'm not trying to smack talk the guy but like color there's a reason he's not on the avalanche anymore and it's not because the avs thought he was great uh the report yesterday is that they've told him he will not be back in san jose yeah you think you know and like they didn't need to trade fabian zetterlind and they did and they got ahead of it because they're like wow chicago's really got their a game so they traded cody cc they traded mikhail grandland like they
Starting point is 00:20:17 it's not just that they sold they got ahead of it and then look at that they didn't win a single one of their final 10 games uh jesse yeah the least was the least win was probably one of their last wins it might have literally been their last i don't know we'll have to look at that i don't know if that's the case uh but but yeah i think um jesse can we look at the eastern conference please so obviously we are well aware of the uh of the race for wild cards obviously you had columbus you had montreal you had ottawa and they're all in so i don't blame columbus for doing what they did no detroit is a question 86 points now we can do a you know we can do a funeral on all of these teams but for the Detroit Red Wings if you're anyone other than Steve
Starting point is 00:21:04 Iserman should you not have sold a Patrick Kane or a Tarasenko or someone else at the deadline or do you I mean they had a good end stretch six two and two but they just weren't in it you know what I would need to see is where they were on deadline day because I did a playoffs I want to say they were in the mix yeah yeah okay and so were the islanders but they sold and got great return for brock nelson should the rangers have sold the islanders sold and then got good like remember the islanders sold at the trade deadline and then post trade deadline they were in that mix for that second wild card and to be fair to these these teams in these everybody was in the mix for that second wild yeah and especially according to steve who was like the penguins
Starting point is 00:21:48 got a shot at some point you know i should have shut up but it was because that that number's so low that 91 it made it reachable for all of these teams so i don't know the islanders they were in the mix even though they sold so same with the red wings so the the sharks win against the leafs we were in san jose for is literally the sharks last win of the season wow if only we'd known that's so funny two days later they lost 6-1 to the rangers which we were there for the next night they lost 8-1 to the kings that was their last win of the season and then they didn't win a game in april oh wow that's crazy uh yeah so god bless you leafs so jesse when you look at so the islanders sold pittsburgh did some retooling i think the team though that gets my gold star for this season
Starting point is 00:22:39 uh is the boston bruins who were in a playoff spot do the thing properly and they did it properly now philadelphia edged them out for last place at the last game did they yeah philadelphia is technically the last place team in the east wow but boston is still in the mix for at least a top five a lottery pick yep not at least a lottery a lot jacked about that i think this might be an interesting snapshot so these are the standings on march 7th on trade deadline day just to give perspective on where these teams were detroit's a point out yeah the the columbus blue jackets held the first wild card spot with 68 points the senators held the second wild card spot with 67 points and then the rangers were just outside tied with the sens at 67 the canadians had 66
Starting point is 00:23:28 the red wings had 66 the bruins had 64 three points out wow and the islanders had 63 four points out of the playoffs everybody was in this mix all season long okay here's here's where the criticism comes in like here just leave it up for one more second boston is uh two six and two in their last 10 on that date detroit who yes is one point out had lost five straight and was bloody three six and one you stink pull the shoot that's enough before that losing streak they're in that wild card spot right and then leading up to that trade deadline they lose that five in a row and they're one point out so you're like how do we how do we just abandon everything if before this we were good and now we're one point out so it's tricky i don't know where to where to land on on
Starting point is 00:24:25 if you think do you think they should have sold more is that the question who's this Detroit there any of these teams like is that is that we're supposed to be looking at these middle teams Boston got rid of everything that wasn't nailed down I think they did it right dude they traded Justin Brazile I think listen no disrespect to the Islanders for selling Brock Nelson I completely get that but I do question in New York and maybe we can do a topic on this later you know in the offseason I with Lou Lamorello at the at the helm you got 63 points in 61 games at that point there was one two three four five four teams ahead of you that you would have to jump just to be on the outside of the wild card looking in and I know that it's quote-unquote possible but we're
Starting point is 00:25:06 now talking two or three years that these guys have missed the playoffs and they seem to with the exception of the Brock Nelson thing who they wanted desperately to resign and would have resigned if he had wanted to i'm i'm questioning the new york islanders sort of direction here islanders were in the playoffs last season they were yeah yeah they remember they snuck in yeah oh over they fired i think it was lane lambert actually yeah they were in the playoffs last they bring in patrick waugh and they were the team that we were all like look out i bet they're gonna give the hurricanes hell and then and then they did all right well i picked the islanders in that series i think i might have too i i think it was a sweep yeah i'm not sure for what oh they
Starting point is 00:25:48 got one game they got one game okay well i'm wrong we're stupid i'm wrong there it is what do i know you guys want to do a tankathon yeah uh let's reset the so here's the draft lottery simulator is on the screen maddie there you go thank you uh i'm gonna hit sim lottery oh baby the rangers moving up nine so we got buffalo new york san jose chicago nashville philadelphia i actually i like this because boston gets only the seventh yeah that's what we all have our eyes on yeah can boston fall 10 spots because i would like that uh you know what i'll take two let's pour seattle goes down to anaheim goes down one so does pittsburgh so did the you're a little slower for the audio listeners that i'm just oh sorry okay so buffalo at one new york rangers at
Starting point is 00:26:36 two san jose sharks at three chicago at four and nashville at five i feel bad for san jose i know that kind of does suck yeah but listen third overall pick they'll live yeah yeah but you had the first whatever let's let's sim it again okay let's sim it again let's see what else we can get here reset and then a simaru san jose nobody really moved except for utah moved up 10 spots so wow it'd be san jose chicago nashville utah moving up 10 last year remember i did that draft lottery stream before one of my my games oh yeah and nobody moved really it was like nobody moved like that it was if you go back and you watch i go well that was the most boring thing ever like nobody moved nobody yeah because
Starting point is 00:27:20 the sharks got celebrini yeah and i remember the the whole thing was pittsburgh would lose their first pick or if they weren't in like the top 10 so dubas was on the because they bring the general managers onto the zoom and then once it was clear that they were not in the top 10 he immediately logged off like live broadcast this year this year's so weird because it's kind of clumped together at the top of the draft sure like the top five is really stock full of talent the guy who is projected to go number one is barely played in Schaefer who I called him Schaefer because I forget his first name like that that's how out of sight out of sight out of mind he's been all eyes are on next year Gavin McKenna looks cracked yeah this guy I think he I honest to God
Starting point is 00:28:07 this 17 year old who cannot be drafted till next year I think he could plop him in the NHL right now he'd be fine do you think you know with last year with Celebrini we saw and we saw it with mcdavid we saw it with matthews there was a lot of intentional tanks in those years yep uh you know something we're gonna have to be on the lookout for this summer after the dust settles is who's intentionally tanking the bad teams next year are gonna be so damn bad which when that happens it inflates the good teams numbers that's where you get that is boston and florida and all these guys getting crazy numbers because teams are like yeah screw it we're we're we're not doing this season next year listen some of your teams are going to suck next year and you're going to be
Starting point is 00:28:48 real sad about it and i'm here to tell you what great news how exciting how exciting you get to be bad in 2026 good for you gavin mckenna's ridiculous i remember one of the themes of our entire uh 2016 2015 2016 season was will the leafs get the first overall pick it was the question you know oh yes we we've talked about for the last 10 years will they get out of the first round now or when I think back I'm like that was the entire thing it was like let's talk Marley's more than Leafs so anyway I don't Adam yeah what if I told you Gavin McKenna has 16 points in nine playoff games would you be impressed not really I mean yeah what is that well what if I told you I was lying and that's just his assist he actually has 22 points in nine games is that good yeah have
Starting point is 00:29:40 they lost any of those games i hope not uh not i um not many not many not many uh this regular season he had 41 goals 88 assists 129 points in 56 games he cannot be drafted until next year wow he had 97 points last year sometimes life throws your curveballs and you don't have time to get to them and that's where task rabbit comes in and i think you should check this out because here's the deal one of the things one of the weird quirks about my condo building is that they use my floor to repel down and clean all the windows but they never clean my windows oh and they're way around on that it's like well it's a patio window you can do that yourself and i'm like well hang on a second what if i don't want to i don't have the stuff because you gotta have that scraper
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Starting point is 00:31:47 I'm going to put you on the spot here. What playoff team this year, East or West, or we can do East and West, whatever you want, has impressed you the most with their play? What playoff team? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:00 so what what playoff team you're like man they're even better than i thought or what an improvement or it could be it could be one team or it could be two whatever you guys want to do i'll throw the habs in there like don't pick more than one in the eastern conference oh i will throw you out all right all right you pick the habs go why the habs well because i thought they needed to take a step this year would you say i didn't necessarily mean they had to make the playoffs they just needed to be in the mix and you gotta make it right like being in the mix is one thing actually making it as we saw at the very end is easier said than done like some people made fun of me because the habs um their last uh whatever it was two weeks three weeks i think they were
Starting point is 00:32:49 seven two and one or seven one and two and then i said they're not playing their best hockey by any stretch of the imagination and people are like we'll pick one and i'm like well you saw how it was they had these opportunities to clinch and took every opportunity to blow it right but the the goaltending they got um lane hudson just getting better and better as the season went on like you you really saw in that uh habs leafs game at the end of the season even though the Leafs outshot them by a wide margin like Lane Hudson is that hockey team they're getting more and more fun to watch up front they don't back down from anything either whether the guy in the lineup is small or big what a rebuild done right in Montreal nailed it Jesse do you have one in
Starting point is 00:33:48 In the East or West or whatever you want. One of the teams I think has gone underrated is the Tampa Bay Lightning. I think it's because of their first round matchup against Florida, the reigning Stanley Cup champions until somebody beats them. They're kind of still the cup champs. People will still believe that Florida can get it done. But Tampa this season, I don't know if a lot of people remember, it's their first season without Stephen Stamkos.
Starting point is 00:34:10 They lost their captain. And they went in a really bold direction trading a guy like Sergachev and letting their captain leave in free agency and rebuilding their entire core just because he's gone, you know? But you still have the guys like Kucherov and Point and Hedman and all those guys and Vasilevsky. And this year, they seem to have put it together again after a couple down seasons of playing too much hockey
Starting point is 00:34:35 because of all those trips to the Stanley Cup final and they flame out in the playoffs really quick. And then now they're kind of back and it's gone under the radar because of the better teams that are just like slightly above them they're not up there with the jets or the capitals and then they didn't even win their division because toronto took that but they're right there with all of those teams no team this year scored more goals than the tampa lightning they led the league in goals four they're in the top six in power play penalty kill goals against and goals for they leave that category all the four major categories they're
Starting point is 00:35:08 right there amongst the top six and i feel like they're gonna surprise a couple teams in a couple rounds here in the playoffs so they are the top team of oh and what i mean by that is when you see what when you see this guy on the ice you go oh okay let me run the names i know he's a bit over the hill but cam atkinson well pretty in the playoffs i mean leaf killer anthony sorelli uh selkie luke glenn denning uh annoying that's not the name i want to zemgus gergensons pain uh yanni gord brandon hayes nick paul like i know the stars are the stars clearly on this roster but there are a lot of guys who are just like fuck oh they're just hard you just wouldn't want to play against them whether or not you outskill them they're still a pain in the ass and they're
Starting point is 00:35:58 not players you want to run into in games five six and seven yes exactly now you guys both picked eastern conference teams do you want to pick a western conference team that also follows that uh sure uh give me the winnipeg jets wow just a team that we i mean wrote off a few years ago and somehow keeps raising the bar for themselves um you know we i mean if kevin adams has a hard time recruiting guys to Buffalo because of the lack of palm trees um if Buffalo has zero palm trees Winnipeg has negative 500 um they have a hard time uh attracting guys to that place and they've still consistently put together a winning program and Iafalo and Pionk have both re-signed yep right before the playoffs which I'm sure makes guys feel pretty good you locked
Starting point is 00:36:51 hellebuck up to that nice deal you lock shifley up to that nice deal and it was questioned at the time we were like yeah all right i guess you're not making significant changes here hellebuck at seven and a half is man highway robbery at this point shifley i want to say i think it's the same seven and a half roughly that like yeah man they they uh maybe one of the most disrespected president's trophy winning teams over the last long while uh they deserve some kudos jesse who you pick in the west in the west i'd go with colorado because yeah it's it's absolutely unfair absolutely that stop mid-season this team adds five guys and one of the guys is postseason we'll start with gabriel landis cock and then you go down the list of the other guys who were
Starting point is 00:37:39 added mid-season niches nelson coil drury that is five guys who could start who could be dominant in on any team you know they can start anywhere on any team if you if you need them to fill in on any part of your four group they're there and the avs just added these out of nowhere got eric johnson back yeah and then eric johnson too but like who cares i know it's just fun that was gorgeous fun adding those four guys to a roster that was already pretty good you know and then but you swap out all those pieces and you bring in these players like i think colorado remade themselves into one of the deepest teams in the league and then on the back end obviously you have a stud defenseman like kale mccarr that like that's a luxury teams don't have you know
Starting point is 00:38:21 it's it's something that a lot of the stanley cup winning teams have had over the last few years is that bona fide number one puck moving defenseman who can score goals and play great defense and the abs they always are gonna have that as long as they have kale mccarr and it's dangerous in the playoffs and then now they also have decent goaltending with blackwood they were so fast they almost cut you off like man if only the avalanche had cool dating how about two bang and they just throw it down on the table and like never has a team actually sounded like it was listening to their fans like they had the room bugged it's like everything drew wanted yeah every time every time he complained the abs were like you know what we heard you drew yeah i put the oh you want those
Starting point is 00:39:04 those additions in the four group because that was the big complaint that they were so light in the forward group it was it was mckinnon and that's it you know and then you're trying to find other pieces to to go around the middle stat thing didn't work no no they moved off it and then now they have one of the best four groups and you know lingering to bring him in on the back end like they're so solid i'm bringing johnson back just for the vibes there's no holes you know jess i think you make a really good point because general managers sometimes have an ego where hey i made this trade so they traded bo byram they got middle stat back and it didn't work and some gms will be like no but it will no but i am smart chris mcfarland christmas
Starting point is 00:39:40 mcfarland uh basically he's like well this didn't work i'll flip them i'll flip somebody else they've also if you go and look at some of the guys they've tried uh they get creative too um jonathan drewan is a project like i know he's nathan mckinnon's friend but like before he arrived in colorado that's a project a high reward project and it has worked worked out quite well and he's rewarded them um they got oliver shillington yep yeah and it didn't really work out there but they tried ryan lindgren's the next one and i like i know he was terrible he was terrible uh in new york this season i think that one's gonna work out for them i i think i think you're right too because most of his career he's been very good yeah guys don't just forget uh and
Starting point is 00:40:29 the rangers were just bad i just for drew and just to focus on him for a second obviously he's always been more assist guy yeah but he had 56 points in 79 games last year this year a lot of injuries to start the year like most of the abs lineup but still 37 points in 43 games pretty damn good for a guy i'm two million bucks yeah for a guy you didn't know was even going to be an everyday player yeah that's crazy and i i want to so my two teams i just want to quickly shout out so you talk about the Montreal Canadiens I think the Washington Capitals this is a team that squeaked in at the last second last week of the playoffs last year and then uh lost and and the Rangers just crushed them that was the sweep yes um and this year the way Carberry's got them
Starting point is 00:41:12 playing the way those trades worked out I'm talking about the the Kemper Pierre-Luc Dubois trade I'm talking about the Jake Chikrin trade it's great go back and look at what they traded for jake chakran it ain't much not a lot and they all of a sudden they're just i'm curious about the the the fun loving halves playing the caps because the caps don't ever let up when they're at their best it's like they're in your shit all the time and it's annoying and and i just and that's why they win i know jack i is not an everyday player on the canadians but i almost wonder if you have them out there just to try to get tom wilson to go oh yeah that's his only job is to try to try to take that trade off play him at forward if you have to yeah but then he also has to play
Starting point is 00:41:58 hockey yeah that's the problem yeah nobody wants that's why i said you play him at forward if you have no no nobody yeah nobody wants that steve uh the the one in the west for me is a team that i i'm a leaf fan what do you mean uh the one in the west i did not i did not believe in because they've been sliding and i'd put too much faith in them before the la kings darcy kemper trade worked out really really well uh i was like what how much money are you paying joel edmondson it doesn't matter we're a few days away from finding out if they're gonna make us all look stupid again well that's okay so let me ask you guys this uh uh in your brackets forget the season preview in your brackets when you're really laying it on the line here oh yeah did either of you pick
Starting point is 00:42:36 the edmonton oilers i did not jesse did you pick the edmonton oilers no a lot of people are not are we gonna look stupid and this is the equivalent of emphatically picking the Leafs to beat the Bruins last year except I mean the difference is the Leafs were not better in the regular season we also just didn't know that Matthews and Nylander were gonna get sick yeah we didn't know that yeah but at the end of the day it's like no this time they're doing it like based on what based on what have you lost your mind but the difference is this is four straight yeah they better not they better not let us down man i'm gonna be because i tell you what the hey maybe this year will be different i'm never
Starting point is 00:43:23 picking that team ever again ever again i'm going uh friggin goliath learn my lesson yeah not the first four the fifth time i'll learn yeah absolutely not watch they're going to play again next year and we're all going to go the frigging kings and then the kings win in like four yeah also i feel like a you know anze kopitar who is still just so unbelievable 37 years old 67 points this year uh in 81 games and you know as we went through in the nhl player poll like uh he's so well respected the last four years the lowest amount of points he's gotten is 67 and that is this year and three years ago he's pretty good and he's known as one of the best defensive centers in the league one of the most and phil no is also on that team oh
Starting point is 00:44:14 yeah go look at his goal total who uh kopitar no i don't know he like essentially didn't score this year really basically yeah oh my god that doesn't surprise you put up a decent amount of points but he's eight goals eight goals didn't need him to didn't need him to uh went by phil baby kopitar is having he's like in the middle of one of the most underrated careers ever like i don't know How many people really, oh man, you know what I want to talk about today? Enze Kopitar. LA Kings fans, but outside of that. Well, yeah, obviously.
Starting point is 00:44:46 But like the way we talk about Crosby all the time, I know Crosby's better, but we just, we don't give Kopitar his flowers. There was a little pocket of time where we did. And that's when they were winning the cup, I think. Yeah, obviously. And he was getting nominated for the heart. We just don't give him enough props. Steve, Jesse, what year was Enze Kopitar drafted?
Starting point is 00:45:07 2003. Jesse. I'll side with Steve. 2005. Oh, damn. Did not play a game until 2009, though. Isn't that nuts? Oh, sorry.
Starting point is 00:45:16 That's playoffs. Never mind. Liar. Liar, liar, pants on fire. That doesn't make sense. He played the next year, 06, 07. So he was drafted in the Crosby draft. That's right.
Starting point is 00:45:28 Every game he's played was post-year-long lockout. Yeah, and this is a guy who only once has dipped below 50 points in a full season. How many games does he play? He is, what, in that? 52 points. 47 games. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:45:46 42 points, 47 games. He has 1,273 points. Yeah, dude. He's an all-timer. He's a hockey all-famer. He's an absolute first ballot all-famer. I wonder if they go on that sort of run. No, no, no.
Starting point is 00:45:58 Shea Weber gets in. You make Kopitar wait. yeah maddie maddie was picking up what i was putting down no you make him wait you make him wait now i i want to ask you guys we are doing our series previews yeah how much of a preview thing do you want me to do with this show how how much how far down that rabbit hole should we go do we save the previews for the preview section or do we how do you what do you want to do you want to talk a little bit uh jesse want to do five minutes on each series something like that what do you think sure okay i think three three two even give me two minutes on the on the jets and
Starting point is 00:46:35 blues uh i think the two teams are closer on paper than they appear in the standings if you just go by the standings uh it's not even close the jets kill the blues in every category there's something to be said about playoff performance and if we're going down that rabbit hole you take points away from the jets and give them to the blues um but i think losing dylan holloway is is a little too devastating to the blues i give the series to the jets jesse two minutes on dallas colorado dallas is so hurt like jason robertson going out in the last game of the season is insanely bad luck mirror heiskanen's not going to be back at least for the first round they're hoping for the second round really they can make it so i didn't know that when i made my bracket i don't i don't
Starting point is 00:47:25 know if uh if everybody knew that but the cj reported it was like two days ago a day ago yeah i just think they're too busted and in colorado seems to be firing at all cylinders i think they're too deep to lose this series how okay how does that change then if they were healthy you guys probably have this series going to seven right uh yes right or jesse maybe not i could be tempted i'm picking the same team you're picking the same team but you did but how many games do you have it going to now oh that i don't remember i don't remember what i actually put in my bracket um uh i could be convinced to give it to dallas if they were healthy but i have colorado no but i'm i'm just talking about with the injuries how does that change your game's
Starting point is 00:48:07 projection let's say six okay only one yeah and gabriel landis cogs back i'm honest okay so here's here's the way i look at it um there are teams that get players back and uh but you take points away because you don't know what percent that player is going to be at land of scog is not that he's pure icing on the cake um if if he's no good i i don't think they have any problems taking him out of the lineup right he hasn't played in three years would anyone be shocked two minutes on vegas minnesota gentlemen uh this is the most egregiously here i'm gonna try to bring it up um first round schedule this is the most egregiously scheduled series in the playoffs their games are at least by eastern standard time all different for games one through four give it to us 10 p.m
Starting point is 00:49:06 11 p.m 9 p.m 4 p.m how does anyone from either fan base watch this series minnesota in particular you're asking people from minnesota to stay up until uh well the game starts at nine for game one and ten for game two crazy even game three starts at eight that is and and so wait when does game four then started it starts at one o'clock in the afternoon on a saturday anyway um yeah let's talk about the actual hockey producer hayden is cross with me he's not happy with how disrespected the minnesota wild are and honestly i understand his argument i look at them on paper now that they have everyone back that's not a team that gets dominated it's just not but what percent of these guys are you getting and it's vegas who you know is going to play a big
Starting point is 00:50:11 heavy grinding soul-sucking game vegas jesse is do you have anything to add to that or do you want me to move on to la edmonton uh 92 percent of bets right now are on vegas to beat minnesota this is the most lopsided series in terms of the betting market i don't think it's gonna be that close or that's an omen that minnesota is going to do the impossible should you put a two dollar steve on the on the wild and just hedge oh that is the series i think is going to be the shortest and that right there was made me go like i might be able to turn this two bucks into 12 um something the los angeles kings and edmonton oilers four years in a row we just talked about it uh two minutes gentlemen you know i gotta i really like charlie brown's chances of kicking
Starting point is 00:51:04 the football i think i think he's due i think lucy's gonna cooperate this time i think he's gonna nail that thing and it's gonna go right over snoopy's house jesse it's so wrong to pick the kings because you're you're a fool to think that hey fourth time's the charm but i'm picking the kings so guilty as charged i got i got kings in like six or something like that i don't know i'm your fool yeah i i might have said six i forget what how many games but i definitely picked the kings and i i feel like i'm gonna be really dumb there's there's a couple series where i'm like okay i'm picking this team to win but if you told me the other team runs them the fuck not just wins runs them the fuck over i wouldn't be shocked and this is one of them it's either
Starting point is 00:51:48 kings and six or oilers in like four what about carolina new jersey guys that's the other one i think everyone's because jack hughes is a huge loss of course this is still a pretty deep new jersey team everyone sold their devil stock and i and i'm buying the dip i still pick carolina to win but like what i that is not buying the dip no it's not jesse is that no no i considered buying the dip. I still think Carolina's going to win, but if the Devils win, I wouldn't be shocked in the least. Everyone's underrating that decor.
Starting point is 00:52:22 I know they lost Jack Hughes, but this is a great opportunity for them to change their style. Everyone's underrating that decor. Jesse. I don't think Steve knows how buying things work. Nope. That's why I don't do it. Carolina, Maddie, what did you just say?
Starting point is 00:52:38 I said, wait, so what team are you picking? I'm picking over. You were just like, Jesse. And I'm like, wait, what? He said, I'm buying the dip. I'm going to pick Carolina. What? I'm taking the over, everyone.
Starting point is 00:52:52 I'm taking the over. Who did you pick? Carolina. Okay. I said it four times. I picked New Jersey. I think a lot of people are underrating. Are you buying the dip?
Starting point is 00:53:03 I am actually buying the dip. I picked New Jersey because the only thing they've really struggled through this second half where they've missed Jack Hughes is goal scoring. and in the playoffs we know what happens goal scoring disappears and their power play is good their penalty kill is good um they're good at stopping the puck and i feel like if they can just muster up a couple goals whether it's on special teams or or just that five on five like there's a chance they can win this series it'll play out like carolina can't get their own side of the puck going in terms of finishing the ability the same way they lost the rangers series
Starting point is 00:53:36 where they had a bunch of chances but they couldn't capitalize on them so if it plays out like that i think new jersey can win and i pick new jersey how what i think it depends to what jake markstrom are you getting right oh the least predictable goaltending of any series what markstrom are you getting what anderson are you getting yeah and then it could come down to alan kachetkov like if i would take jake allen in that i love jake allen i think he rocks highest save percentage out of all four worst record out of all four hilarious make it make sense Washington, Montreal. I'm curious to hear your thoughts on this, guys,
Starting point is 00:54:09 because it should be Montreal's playing with house money. They have a good time. They go home. But sometimes you get a team like that, and they go on a real run. And, you know, Canadians fans will tell you, hey, we just got Demidoff. Lane Hudson's going to win the Calder.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Like, this team's a lot better than any of you are giving it credit for. So let me start by saying Capitals win this year. All right. So now where do we go from there? um here's what how montreal could conceivably win demidov is transformational for the roster we haven't seen enough to know that totally yet yep obviously he had the really good first game um what's logan thompson at and if logan thompson falters or can't play
Starting point is 00:54:55 how good is charlie lindgren going to be right that's really important and are the capitals refocused from the ov chase because i think that is an underratedly really emotionally exhausting experience and it's difficult to go from where these unreal world beaters were just focused on playing amazing hockey to feeding ov every night to like they got their ass kicked like a few times sure they're in the middle of all that they lost that game for one of course they did you know like mission accomplished the game's over who gives a damn um lose seven nothing to columbus like there were there was plenty of evidence that the capitals took their foot off the gas if they find a way to put their foot back on it i don't think montreal even playing at their
Starting point is 00:55:54 best has a chance but if montreal's dialed and the caps aren't the series could go either way got it jess what do you think on this one on december 1st montreal was 31st in league standings wow they were only wow only ahead of the chicago blackhawks by one single point wow so since that point of december 1st to make the playoffs in april it's an incredible run they've been hot they've been over that stretch the hottest team in hockey clearly and but watching how they've played in the last week where things were actually on the line even though they've had a really good stretch of hockey as you mentioned before and we haven't had an episode since they clinched a playoff spot but watching that game in carolina where sticks were squeezed a little too tight
Starting point is 00:56:45 not getting the extra point against toronto over the weekend and then you have another game where you don't get the extra point again in demidov's debut it it feels to me that they're just a little too young and that they're going to be in this series i think it's going to be a long one but they won't be able to pull out the extra victory to get it done so i think it's gonna be a close series but i gotta lean washington i've i've seen it said shades of capitals leafs in 2017 that's all i've heard which was a really fun series but it should be mentioned the leafs lost yeah the Leafs, what was it? All six games go to overtime or something?
Starting point is 00:57:22 Or one goal game? All six by one goal, five went to overtime. Yeah, I feel like it's going to be something like that. But every time there's an OT game, you're like, if they can just get this one, they'll probably fall a little short in this series. So that's where I'm leaning. Okay, let's talk about the last two remaining,
Starting point is 00:57:39 Tampa and Florida. This one's a hard one to call. It really is. Yeah. Because I think this one, kind of like Dallas-Colorado, if both teams are healthy ish yeah this is a completely different conversation 100 how healthy and it has to be asked are the florida panthers because the lightning seemed to be pretty fine well in florida beat them so emphatically in the playoffs last year but i mean what makes it
Starting point is 00:58:02 different uh all the players you lost in the offseason so no montour anymore you add seth jones but you lose aaron akblad for the first two games oel's not there anymore too oel's not there anymore i mean lorenz sock pozo stendland was so underrated for them i loved watching him play in uh the last playoff run he was so important uh for those depth minutes the allergies are really starting to pile up as the show goes yeah sorry get did you get the stuff i told you to get no i didn't like i forgot um get benadryl uh let me get it so anyway um like jesse mentioned earlier in the show tampa is such a ridiculous wagon they are a different team from last year and florida hasn't shown any evidence that they're even kind of healthy like i know they don't care
Starting point is 00:58:57 about the regular season but it's really difficult to just turn it on there it was either last year or it was within the last few years that Avalanche went into the playoffs having lost like seven straight or something like that and then they ended up winning in the first round. I think that's the exception, not the rule. What percent of Matthew Kachuk are you getting?
Starting point is 00:59:22 You have absolutely no idea. What percent of Sam Bennett are you getting? What percent of, I mean, Aaron Ekblad, i'm sure he's going to be perfectly healthy he was suspended for being too healthy um but like is there going to be any rust there um there's just too many question marks with florida meanwhile there's tampa like there's none here what are you questioning we're great and we're healthy so i have to pick tampa jesse uh yeah i already said my piece on tampa yeah yeah okay all right and that last one in two last one uh whoa the the conversation with the toronto ottawa series has
Starting point is 01:00:05 been great i love this i love this one of the things that keeps coming up is does toronto have an answer for brady kachuk what are they going to do about brady kachuk brady kachuk brady kachuk brady kachuk who struggled a little bit with health since four nations and was pulled out of a game but travis green was like he's fine ready to go i didn't look into that i didn't either how as leaf fans do you feel about this series not what the outcome is how does it make you feel right now in your chest uh if okay this is nothing like last year leafs were heading into a series uh no home ice advantage against the damned bruins playing poorly now they're a bigger tougher more playoff oriented team who just won their division and are playing great so
Starting point is 01:00:59 i'm actually trying to look at this series like a normal fan would a fan of any other team a fan of any other team would look at this and go i like our chances leafs and six you know what i mean and that's what i'm gonna say the only thing that is making you not pick the leafs in this series well it could be two things number one the Leafs did not play Ottawa very well in the regular season um but number two the Leafs are the Leafs Jesse do you feel like the Leafs are the Leafs are they the self-defeating franchise I think it's a tad ridiculous the narratives going around this series because a lot of people are like ah you know Brady Kachuk he's gonna like mean mug his way to four victories against the Leafs and I'm just like what if the Leafs just have Austin Matthews
Starting point is 01:01:43 and they score a bunch of goals and they win well and like oh man you saw him at the four nation you You know his team lost, eh? You know he wasn't that good by the end of it. No, he could have won it. No, Binnington is the only reason he didn't literally score the tournament winning goal. I think a lot of people are predicting this base or judging this series and analyzing it based on voodoo on both sides. Interesting. Where it's like this imaginary presence is going to be able to will the Sens into victory.
Starting point is 01:02:13 through all of their players are going to play like Wayne Gretzky because they have Brady Kachuk and then the other side, the Leafs are going to lose this series because they've lost a bunch of series when I don't think they're really thinking about that
Starting point is 01:02:26 with the amount of new bodies that they've brought in with a new head coach, with the guys who are just playing better this season and they're all healthy. They've been surprisingly healthy this year. I don't think the series
Starting point is 01:02:36 is going to be particularly close if it goes to the way it's supposed to. Whoa. Clip it. Okay. Okay. so so and i guess i get that i i understand that so okay i'm gonna be leaf fan here anxious mess okay scarred deeply scarred understandable in the past what different regimes have done is they've
Starting point is 01:02:56 tried to insert veteran player here and that will teach the young guys and so they did it with like this is pre-cap problem so they did it with patrick marlo they did it with joe thornton they did it with jason spezza they did it with wayne simmons well just inserting a tough guy and being like we are tough now kyle clifford yeah that's not how it works and and so what's interesting is what they seem to have done this time obviously with a little bit more cap space because the cap is actually going up but they made shrewd moves this offseason i don't care when chris tannib's contract expires oh i i really don't care uh i don't care when oel's contract expires um what i find really interesting about the way this team is played first off huge on
Starting point is 01:03:42 defense and very good on defense which is great chris tana was again amongst the best defensive defenseman in the league again this year um i'm wondering for you does that change any of the anxieties that you had in previous years having guys not just on defense but on forward you know Scott Lawton as much as people have maligned his play yeah uh he's all vibes like did you guys see the uh Jesse you would have probably been there for this quote he was talking about yesterday at one point how he just watched a Leafs Senators highlight pack on YouTube from like the early that's my people and yeah he's just that um and and you look at you know the the emergence of a guy like Bobby McMahon who when he's on his game is fast and like a freight train the emergence of
Starting point is 01:04:28 Matthew Nyes so you get some old you get some young like it feels a lot different from last year yeah like you know Vegas is a big mean team and they ran into Dallas last year who's also a big mean team like we're acting like Brady Kachuk's the only player on earth like it's gonna be a war it's gonna be a back and forth the Leafs are not gonna back down the Sens are not gonna back down it's going to be tough it's the stanley cup playoffs you know what i've asked myself recently is you know we we spend a lot of time talking about why the leafs can do it and even more time talking about why they can't and my question is would we know a stanley cup worthy team if we saw it no i don't think so we might be looking at it i didn't know you felt that way
Starting point is 01:05:27 about the sense we might be looking at that too all right all right i think i think the everything's been so quiet around the leafs because they've been winning and there's been no problems and i feel like the only time the leafs are like super in the news and every day we gotta yell about the leases when they're bad and losing and things are going to hell and now it hasn't been that because they've been really good and we should acknowledge that like hey look at this subjectively without the history of you being tortured of a lease fan and this is just a really good hockey team that finished second in the eastern conference one of the top in the entire national hockey league i think they have the best points percentage since i forget which day it's
Starting point is 01:06:06 like second best points percentage since february 1st or something like that and they're they're an unbelievable team and there's no reason they should lose this series and it shouldn't be close like the the argument should be but the argument against like hey it'll be there'll be a lot of physical battles yeah that's every series put any team against any team in the playoffs it'll be physical and they'll be fighting you know the question become that no it was physical washington new york last year that was physical yeah oh yeah that one team beat the shit out of the other though like yeah should then the question be are the leafs now equipped to handle it in a way that they couldn't before i think so yes yeah okay uh the leafs played with a 122 point pace from
Starting point is 01:06:44 february 1 onwards from february 1st they were 22 7 and 2 yeah and then but the only time everybody was getting really worked up about the least was when they had a three-game losing streak in that like where was the hype for when they were when they're on a five-game winning streak to end the season yeah and it's not as loud as when they were on a three-game losing streak in the middle of a 122 point pace yeah it's it's so i hate the narrative around the team in the town because it's so disingenuous because nobody's willing to just admit that like hey they're good and that's fine and you blame us though we've been a little hurt i can't totally well like here's here's how i kind of look at it beating tampa in 2023 was getting over the mental hump
Starting point is 01:07:29 they did it when they lost to florida florida was better they were the better team like by kind of a big margin and especially because you saw what florida did the next three rounds yes and you're like oh that shouldn't have been close yeah we got a one we got a win the next year carolina didn't even get that like the next year when they beat boston sorry when they lost to Boston that series had no business going seven they didn't deserve it not even close and this year I'm looking at the way they've played and I'm like yeah no they should be the favorite if they do lose to Ottawa to me it's a 2021 style choke and I mean it seems like we say this every off season but you're gonna have to blow it up this time like I know last year I was like well this
Starting point is 01:08:21 year i think they do i mean there's no justification for bringing back anyone with a name plate if you lose this this is a different loss a hundred percent yeah this is everything everything going into this is a different circumstance as opposed to the last four years but i don't think they're gonna it's more like 21 yeah and i don't think they're gonna lose either okay not in the first round the second round's a little dicey uh because based on who they're gonna get campo or florida but the first round because that's where we are i don't think it's going to be a problem check out my bracket have you compared your bracket to jesse's yet i haven't done nope yet why do i want to see the wrong one yeah you don't want to see that i'm gonna be i got montreal
Starting point is 01:09:05 winning the cup in four game sweeps it every way along the way over vegas just no no over the wild oh yeah montreal minnesota final trying to curry favor with producer hayden i see yeah okay all You know what? Why don't we do the press conference? Peloton has what you need to achieve your fitness goals no matter why you got started or when. And this is the thing. Steve, you're a Peloton user.
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Starting point is 01:10:27 So if you want to Find your push Find your power Do so with Peloton At onepeloton.ca you said that like stomping tom connor's last one of the playoffs too last one of the playoffs too um adam i know you don't have the best memory terrible so i assume you might have not remembered or noticed adam wild my freak we spent all monday um doing one thing on our show and that was uh
Starting point is 01:11:06 making fun of steve yes and then steve shaved he did yes i did forget that but but but the question is so now he's got a little bit of fuzz in right stubble he did shave yeah you got done no no you got it you got to shave again why no no no no i don't know where to come up with that i don't think he's gonna shave he shaved like it's fine now okay he shaved the week of the playoffs like it's fine i thought i had to start i haven't shaved since they clinched the atlantic now when you left the show on monday you were indignant yeah yeah and we called this the show phony steve why did you make the pivot and where was it that you got bullied into and finally broke because when you left here jesse i was convinced he wasn't yeah and then i want to read the comments from the
Starting point is 01:11:58 people because we said we'd we'd get your reaction you know what maybe read those first yeah i want to hear do you want to talk about your reasoning to shave or do you want to hear what the people said i want to hear what the people okay so brooksie said the real reason the leafs have not made it past the first round is because steve cheats in his playoff there it is there it is right away you nailed it because i don't want to freaking hear it and now i don't have to this is from review eca the hockey gods see the beard cheating steve and they may show their disapproval in ways you will not like that was written so ominous it was very good wow man that one that's a nostradamus passage right that one had 113 up comments that comes up yeah you don't feel like
Starting point is 01:12:42 shaving all right i'm gonna make sure you shave as soon as possible yep um this one is from kratzy start the beard over phony man it's not about the result it's about the journey i love that how about you take a journey to deleting your account that was that was more of like a budo response um adam you had asked about some of the worst playoff beards gem f8 wanted to throw in patrick linea when he was on the jets oh the neck beard yeah oh man yo it's crazy sometimes you go look at old pictures of patrick linea with the jets and that beard i remember when he started growing that i was like that is the ugliest beard i've ever seen in my life like that is a crazy ass beard you know uh in stepbrothers when
Starting point is 01:13:25 they fart in the job interview all right now the suit's kind of fucked up that's when he was scoring 40 goals a year you're like yeah go off patrick and then when he got cold it's like all right yeah now the beard's kind of fucked up you're right you should probably yeah you're not good enough to have that beard riffing on this poor guy in his beard this one was from rickster jesse is 100 correct about growing the playoff beards but he is also 100 wrong about four goals not being a hat trick hell yeah hell yeah brother hell yeah um i didn't get a vote this wasn't jake this is your vote jake i didn't get a vote but i'm with steve on the playoff beard i can't grow one either so i start early too see steve i think a lot of people
Starting point is 01:14:05 who are in your camp were just other people who could not grow there are dozens of us dozens i will uh i will stand up for the bald face community bald face that's good um this is from moose hawkins not steve you have to start the beard over what are we doing what are you doing what are you doing huh there were there were a lot of people who were came to your defense but there were just more people who were upset with you now and a lot of people blamed you for all the losses because you've been cheating you get blamed for that a lot you get blamed for a lot of loss like i know i happen to know that you picked colorado to go to the finals uh in your bracket and drew is really upset about it drew's pissed he would have been relieved if i picked the
Starting point is 01:14:52 leaves nope you sit in it drew sit in it also steve you didn't go like razor down you left a little stubble right uh i don't remember i'm just based on your your face right now i don't think i don't think you you went to the barber and they got off the knife and they were like down to the skin on tuesday foil the foil shaver okay okay no this is down to the skin on the neck on account of its gross yeah yeah no but i'm excited to see your genuine playoff beard this year uh me too but adam you were asking about steve leaving the show on monday and yeah decision he made when did you make that call because i when i i hadn't had dinner yet on monday yeah i hadn't had dinner yet i went downstairs and shaved and i've shaved once since
Starting point is 01:15:43 then okay but why though what was the bullying work because i was yeah because bullying works were you reading the comments was it what jesse and i said i gotta go what was probably hadn't gone up yet but you when you left live it off mike you're like i'm not doing it i'm not doing it you both are wrong and on my way home i decided uh resistance is futile bullying works bullying works and instead of having you ever decide not to have a fight with yourself i just i made a truce with myself and i said just save tell me more about that just shave and and then you don't have to fight with yourself i don't gotta fight with myself i don't gotta fight with adam and jesse and more importantly i don't gotta i don't gotta compete with the uh persian arrows
Starting point is 01:16:30 blocking out the sun except every arrow is a comment telling me to shave you stupid looking prick so what i love that's what i decided what i love about steve's playoff beard around game five or six is that the the corners of his chin start to grow faster than the rest of his beard and it's it's really not even great they're like white yeah it's just like this weird like the mug so everything else grows like at a normal pace but though that those two little spots grow a little faster and it just looks a little sloppy like we give line a it looks stupid um it's fun you should dye it no diet this year no blue you know blue yeah oh you'd be one of those guys you know what we get to the second or third round we can start dying that that thing blue damn you know
Starting point is 01:17:15 what i think you're forgetting about me is i'm also like a functioning adult who's gotta like go to the bank and get groceries and shit nah people will understand yeah it's leaf season yeah uh you know what you know what there is a pass for that you have some crazy stuff happened with the rappers remember that guy walking around with a plant like you know it's it's like this was during the parade it was during the parade was the first round sometimes i worry about like leaning too hard into being me because i never want people to be like what a dick dick i know i'm not a dick i just don't want people to think it well i wouldn't worry about that too too much you've come this far you know and and and honestly i respect the fact that you took your friend's
Starting point is 01:17:54 advice that you shaved it and now you can start the playoffs with a clear conscience i i think you're giving yourself too much credit i i take your advice oh yeah you're acting like i sat there and went you know what adam and jesse are right if we never said anything you'd have a full beard yeah but that's not adam and jesse are right that is this will shut those pricks up by doing exactly what we asked you to yeah i feel like we were and i was wrong here you are blabbing on about it anyway i feel like we were right i feel like you wouldn't have done it if we were wrong you wouldn't have done it wow that's so true right like i feel like we said it and you're like ah they're right You know what a saying I love?
Starting point is 01:18:35 The truth has a ring to it. Wow. That is so old and Adam Wilde. It rung true to you, I think. That saying comes with a Werther's Original in your frigging leather wallet. Also, I just want to put myself out there and the supporter of the people who dye their hair or beard
Starting point is 01:18:53 the team's colors. I love that. It's kind of cool. Steve's not, but whatever. I've been very fortunate. I haven't had to dye my hair. I'm fortunate. No, he's talking about the team colors.
Starting point is 01:19:03 I'm talking about blue. oh yeah or green or red or purple or whatever yeah but like i don't know i see like dark i do it and i'm like that makes sense yeah and i think i just look like a dick i don't know it would be funny it'd be hilarious so you think dye the brownie blonde parts blue yeah yeah yeah make it look really really leafs they okay i can't do this in the first round no because it's not they gotta they gotta make it a little bit and then we'll have this conversation again and i bet you there's some beard dyers out there who can help us with that what would you ask our guy yeah let's ask our guy would you have to bleed no you would rest no no bleaches bleaches when
Starting point is 01:19:45 you're going lighter so with color it and usually when you do it you can wash it off like that no but bleach it then dye it no no we're we're doing we're doing costume level dye yeah like we're going the the spirit halloween spray and we're getting like oh like it comes off in the shower yeah we're not getting we're not going to shoppers and getting just for men yeah you know because it doesn't i don't think they're blue just for men do they have blue grecian like it's not that serious i don't know listen if i'm gonna join the blue haired community i want to do this properly i respect the commitment but i feel like we could just do this so easily and cheaply i do know people uh that you can dye your hair with kool-aid too and it just washes out the next day
Starting point is 01:20:29 oh nice beg your part yeah yeah i mean you smell a little bit you'd probably be a bit sticky but you smell delicious okay you smell like anyways we solved beard gate he shaved so we went on audience yeah good job on the bullying more bullying works that's what the world needs more bullying adam uh a lot of people were bringing up on if you don't listen to if you're not a member of sdp vip we you should you should be first of all um you can subscribe to sdp vip on apple on spotify or on youtube it gets you an extra episode of the steve angle podcast every single thursday night um we don't talk hockey there's like pop culture stuff we talked about the blue origin space launch where katie perry went to space and on the dick ship was on jeff
Starting point is 01:21:14 bezos is uh is is thing is penis looking yeah i can't you can't deny and then we also talked a lot about the masters and we had a master's bet we all picked a player to win uh to finish the best and the masters actually picked mackerel he ended up winning which means i got to have a punishment for steve and the punishment's going to be revealed next week and we're going to do it all at sport check but adam a lot of people were bringing up because we had a punishment going and a bet that you had lost a bet a long time ago oh with the apple and you never delivered i never did and some people were like you know steve could not wear the sense jersey and it's just fine because adam never fulfilled his promise of a bet so if i bring in the apples then steve's got to do
Starting point is 01:21:58 his i i think yeah i think because because you didn't do the apples that steve could probably get away with not doing his punishment you have to bring in apples a bag of apples so that you can fulfill his punishment. To sport check on Monday. There we go. So then Steve has to wear the jersey. Yeah. That's going to be hard.
Starting point is 01:22:15 You not bringing in the apples is why the Leafs keep fucking losing. That's why they lost because you didn't bring in the fucking apples. All right. Now let's see the bullying magic work.
Starting point is 01:22:27 Hey, this is coming from the same guy who wouldn't meet Jesse and I to watch a Leafs playoff game because he needed to watch it on his good luck couch. Yeah. Also, I didn't want to drive.
Starting point is 01:22:35 And where's that good luck couch? You gave that away. Yes, we did. It was not a good luck couch. Adam was distracting from the fact that he got bullied into bringing apples. I will bring the apples. Yeah. I don't even remember what the bet was for.
Starting point is 01:22:45 I don't either. If somebody in the comments remembers what our apple bet was, I think it was like two years ago now. Yeah, I know. And every time somebody brings it up, I'm like, oh my God. Yeah, but you didn't do it. People really care about the apple bet. Oh, look at that.
Starting point is 01:22:57 Adam forgot. Bring in the apples, asshole. Mind freak. Bring in the apples. April is Testicular Cancer Awareness Month. the leading charity dedicated to changing the face of men's health is encouraging you to know thy nuts and that's movember uh by regularly checking your nuts you can know thy nuts and here's the thing only 22 of canadian men feel very confident they'd be able to check their
Starting point is 01:23:21 testicles for irregularities because even if you check them what am i what am i checking for that's why you gotta know them you gotta oh this is if they feel different monday to tuesday it's a problem okay now one in four canadian young men would not visit a doctor unless their testicles were in quote extreme pain and that has to change that's not how we want to look at this so uh one of the things they are telling you to do is how to check your pair uh you want to steam up the shower okay this relaxes and looses it loosens it all up you roll with your finger and your thumb, one testicle, two testicles, and sort of repeat. And if you see anything or feel anything that you're like, it doesn't feel like it should be there, you go to the doctor and you
Starting point is 01:24:07 check it out. And if you need sort of a whole way of doing this, Movember.ca has all the information. Testicular cancer may present as things like a lump, a swelling or pain, an increase in size, change the way it feels. These symptoms are vague and may not be the same for everybody. So again, you feel something irregular, you got to go to the doctor. And that's why Movember is encouraging you to know thy nuts go to nuts and bolts.movember.com um and then we also had another adam thing to touch on because adam recorded with alan walsh yes who talked a lot about ray shiro and he talked about chris simon and ct in the nhl and he also touched on mark andre flurry and i wanted to play this clip of you and alan talking about mark andre flurry's infamous prank uh from a couple years ago
Starting point is 01:24:54 yes so do you go ahead and play it yeah he was on after hours saturday night great interview with scott oak they were talking about the prank on uh brandon duhaime flower called me that morning really early it was around 7 a.m and he goes uh hey alan um do you do you know what time the home depot opens here and i'm like you're on the road because yeah i gotta get to home depot right when they open hey what are you up to what are you up to he's like you'll see you'll see and we all saw he bought a car jack he bought uh pounds of dirt flowers he ended up taking the tires off jacking the car up taking the tires off and he kept the lug nuts remember he texts me he's like i got the lug nuts
Starting point is 01:25:56 it's so ridiculous i'll never pull up the picture of brandon that's a lot of effort man but yeah like the amount of effort to go look at the car it has no wheel one of his favorite things to do when he was on the show with alan and i oh my look at the dirt on it is to lean a is is to lean a garbage bin full of water uh like from your hotel garbage against your your door and then knock on your door and you open the door and then the bin oh my god loves to do that loves to do that am i so my question is for if i'm branded to him i'm like okay but like how hilarious how do i get home what about my car put the tires back on like what what do we i need the tire and now i'm just oh i lost them yeah yeah oh i would just say i lost them and the amount of
Starting point is 01:26:50 dirt on the engine like that's not us so he planted a flower garden yeah that's not a small amount of dirt oh that's a lot of dirt like he's just shoving it on the ground now and driving away so here's my question for him to be there for practice he's got to be there for morning skate or practice beyond time he's got to make sure duhaime goes in and he either has to do it before or after practice either racing him out or doing it really quickly and then racing in or are you giving the coach a heads up like i'm gonna be a little late did he have help i he must have i mean alan's his agent maybe he did i don't think alan fluent for that never know duhaime's not his client like to pull tires off a car is not like it's not that hard but it's not the easiest thing
Starting point is 01:27:32 and to get cinder blocks underneath it you had to he hired a crew must have been he had to have unless i think it's funnier if he didn't he brought bricks he brought dirt sitting on cinder blocks this was last season if you don't if you don't remember this incident or if you're just learning about the first time do hame had covered mark andre flurry's car in toilet paper and this was flurry's response to that so they had a mini prank war going back and forth and do hame i think lost uh because this is worse than a toilet paper covered car is not having wheels on your car dude that's that's like oh man this one time he was standing on my left side but tap my right shoulder and made me look the wrong way so i threw everything he owns onto the front lawn
Starting point is 01:28:25 pranked yeah lmao gotcha like flurry brought a drone to a knife fight yeah yeah well and that's the thing though with flurry it's like you're gonna test the king right like you're gonna come at me you better be ready right uh that is i mean i wish flurry had done this earlier in his career just because it would establish, oh, there's something wrong with that guy. Let's leave him alone. He chained up the tires.
Starting point is 01:28:59 Oh, my God. So the wild had tweeted it out at the time. And he put a for sale sign in the window, too. He had chained up the tires, I guess, to the parking garage wall. How did he get in the car? How did he get into his vehicle? You don't need to get into the car to
Starting point is 01:29:14 take off tires. No, the for sale sign. Or is that on the outside? It's on the outside yeah yeah that's okay now here's my question i want to know how he got the key for the lug nuts right because to you know you do get specific like there is a locking nut on each tire otherwise people would just be able to roll up and steal your rims and tires no problem right like that's nuts mess with the bull you get the flowers hey flower it's brandon i just wanted to say that you won the prank warren i'm sorry that's such an admission of defeat is just uh you want i'm sorry like please can i have my tires
Starting point is 01:29:57 that's so great that's south park that's uh cartman versus bart that's uh i have a pretty bad kid man oh wow that's crazy that's like this one time uh there was a kid i didn't like so i ground up his parents into chili and fed it to him you win man you win all right yeah yeah there so that's how we got them off adam you were asking oh it looks like he just used a socket wrench thing that's nuts yeah that is nuts good for him wow we're gonna miss flurry i need the cctv footage of him walking out of the store with this the home depot yeah yeah like what was his conversation like i hope he didn't go to self-checkout like oh getting a bunch of different stuff done today yeah with his big teeth his big
Starting point is 01:30:51 white marc andre flurry teeth he's got a good smile for a pranker like alan alan tell him that story he's like what time do you say he texted him it was like it was like six in the morning six in the morning when does this happen or what is this open i don't know so unsurprised yeah by a text like that because it's flurry yes yeah and you know what's funny is like flurry like he's got several kids he's got three kids so he'd have to say to his wife listen i need you to hold down the fort this morning no he was on the road oh he's on the road it was in minnesota yeah he's on the road at the time right yeah yeah yeah so anyway oh that's in denver right right right yeah great spectacular well done yeah well done bro something wrong with that guy did you want to
Starting point is 01:31:34 share anything else from that ap episode that people should listen to i thought that the the ray shiro stuff i think you you don't realize how many people came out of the ray shiro school of like uh um uh mentorship so bill garren and tom fitzgerald specifically are two names that come to mind uh and his dad was obviously a legendary coach with the flyers in the 70s ray was on ap and we talked a little bit about his dad and talked a little bit just a really affable human being and you know this is the guy that put together the team that won crosby at his first cup that's right so like that is it was that was really great the chris simon stuff you know it was a heavier agent provocateur and i know that you know that's not always the most fun but what was
Starting point is 01:32:16 it was was interesting and the chris simon stuff was fascinating because his family came out and said it was suicide and the chris we knew was gone a long time ago and we are not surprised by this and here were the issues we faced with CTE. And now, you know, when Alan and I started the show, I think it was like 13 or 14 NHL brains had been tested for CTE. Since then, we've had another seven or eight, right? And only one ever has come back without it.
Starting point is 01:32:48 And some of the names that we've had recently, Stan Mikita, Bobby Hall, Chris Simon, names that you know. And I, it's, you're like, again, whenever this debate happens it shouldn't be a debate it's it devolves into oh you want the game to be soft no you can't even take headshots out of hockey you can't you can penalize them more though you can make people a little more careful around the head that's where that's that the messaging and i feel like that's getting lost in the internet discourse as everything does
Starting point is 01:33:17 that's the frustrating part is it's like the nhl when you ask them about it they'll just say no comment and that even the nfl is funding studies on cte the nfl is paying for it yeah the nfl the nfl the nfl this is not a good place for your sport and your alumni to be in take steps to fix it instead of denying the problem yeah together yeah that's it that's it anyway so uh that's the and the problem with cte is is as always you can't test for it while someone's alive yeah it's only posthumously yeah so anyway uh great episode to listen to and and it helps you understand the thing and alan told some great stories about about ray and we'll leave it at that okay awesome um to end the season because we are past game 82 the regular season
Starting point is 01:34:07 is over we must play a game of point a game now that everybody has officially uh set their totals do you guys want to play point a game yes game that doesn't remember the game i don't remember We've played this a number of times on the Steve Dangle podcast. It's where Adam and Steve go back and forth, and they guess a player who has been a point a game. Oh! Remember the game? Oh, yes, I remember the game.
Starting point is 01:34:31 Okay, so they give me a player like Connor McDavid, and if they are point a game, they've scored as many points as they have played games, they continue on. And as soon as one of them names a player who is not a point a game, the game is over, and the other person wins. there is no minimum games limit to point a game so if you named a player who played one game and scored one point that classifies are you guys ready i'm ready i'm ready steve you want to go
Starting point is 01:34:59 first nikita kucherov nah all right it'll be mine good adam uh jeez uh caril caprizov brandon hagel uh connor mcdavid leon dry silent oh you can't do that why it's not fair why that's not fair mitch marner william kneeland stops taking my lead you're taking my lead austin william kneelander is very close oh he has a point of game but he has 84 points you can't you can't breeze by these austin matthews yeah yeah suck it and now it gets hurt did we already say carol caprizo yes ah shoot um shoot uh nick suzuki sydney crosby um suzuki by the way is 89 and 82 there you go that's not breezing by that's pretty good
Starting point is 01:36:00 seven off seven off is is not it's not a whole bunch steve you're up Kaprizov by the way was 56 and 41 it was very pretty good yeah pretty good only 41 games played
Starting point is 01:36:14 David Pasternak yeah Kyle Connor that's an easy one 97 points on the air for Connor just short of the century mark
Starting point is 01:36:24 yeah it's not 100 though is it McDavid hit 100 points in 67 games that is so stupid like the dude is so good
Starting point is 01:36:31 oh my god I don't know this I just think this player is really good Braden Point I mean, he is very good. Yes. Brain point is 82 points in 77 games.
Starting point is 01:36:43 All right. Hey, hey. He crossed it. Nathan McKinnon. I don't know how we got this far without mentioning McKinnon. Yes. 116 he finishes the year. Kucherov wins the Art Ross.
Starting point is 01:36:55 How many points did Kucherov have? 121. Wow. That's a lot lower than last year. Still pretty good. uh ivan damadov yes that counts that's good man that counts i respect i respect that uh okay all right um hmm i'm just going around the league here yeah i wanted to wait longer on damadov you had to pull it out no it's a good one i like that i like that i respect that
Starting point is 01:37:28 um jack eichel i thought about him i'm concerned about this one yeah i think i think you'll be okay is is is he is jack short for anything it could be uh jack or i well so my my grandfather was john but they all called him jack or jonathan uh jack i go by the way 94 and 77 oh yes it's not even close good good good good yeah yeah jackson eichel could be possibly jackery yeah but he came through the american hockey program if his full name was jackson he would go by it yeah true that's such an american hockey program name totally or whl then there's a lot of overlap all right we have an answer jack eichel's real name is john robert eichel oh see i'm happy i uh yes john rob john bob eichel jack is john bob his name so that's the same thing with
Starting point is 01:38:31 your grandfather adam yeah he was i hope the wild wow name was john i've been lied to how does that happen i well because jack i don't know why jack is like the name but that's your if your name is john people were like yeah john's for losers so i'm gonna call you jack like i don't understand John is a name! I know, and it's one syllable, as is Jack. I don't get it. It's supposed to be like an informal one. What? I don't get it. Hold on. Why do people
Starting point is 01:38:57 who are named John also get Jack? Why are people named Richard called Dick? The name Jack is a derivative of John, which originated in medieval England. The name went from John to Johnkin to Janken to Jaken to, you guessed it, Jack.
Starting point is 01:39:13 It's of Celtic origin, meaning healthy, strong, and full of vital energy, which I think Jack Eichel is. All right. Wow. Steve, you're up. I might be off here. Jason Robertson. I know it's close. I know it's close.
Starting point is 01:39:32 80 points in 82 games. Adam wins point a game. Wow. That is an upset victory to end the season. Damn.
Starting point is 01:39:48 Man. I knew he had over 80. Well, I knew he had. It started with an 8. That was oof. But I was like, ah, maybe he missed a few games. I guess not. All right.
Starting point is 01:39:57 So we can look at some of the point totals for the end of the season. Some surprise performances. A lot of names you guys didn't mention. Kale McCarr. I wasn't sure if he got there, but he obviously got there pretty healthily. You guys cleared the top 8, which is great. That's good. The standings in terms of points finished.
Starting point is 01:40:14 kucherov mckinnon dry side opasta marner yep you said marner mcdavid connor eichel so the only one we the only one we didn't get it in the top 10 was kill mccarr because i got crosby you got crosby and then clayton keller comes in at number 11 very good season for keller on a not a great utah team 90 points in 81 games hegel 90 points in 82 games panarin my next one was going to be ranting in by the way 89 and 80 suzuki 89 and 82 ranting in 88 and 82 did it i wonder if you did it one of the more underrated seasons of anybody jesper bratt yeah 88 points this season shifley had 87 willie had 84 niches 83 dushane 82 uh that's the top 20 in points i have to look this up but i i feel like scoring overall in the league was either super spread out or it's just down
Starting point is 01:41:06 straight up down uh it is down yeah it is down which i don't like if you compare back up so these are the 24 25 point totals and then we just go here and we look at the last year's oh sorry there you go like compare the point totals the last year where kucherov had 144 points that is McKinnon had 140. McDavid had 130. Two guys with 100 assist seasons, Jesse. It's absurd to the drop-off from the top to the bottom or to the top next year.
Starting point is 01:41:44 Wow. Yeah. Good for Kucherov, man. That's crazy. Are we just going to... I totally forgot about this, but since his name came up, are we going to mention Panarin? Katie Strang had a story in The Athletic about a...
Starting point is 01:41:56 uh well an assault alleged assault and a cover-up yes um it was it's a very bare-bones story got my attention i was very surprised i think a lot of people were very surprised and i'm waiting for more to come out yeah and like i don't think we're ever gonna get that because of the ndas that were signed like in her story yeah she she quotes the the people involved in it and msg and and the victim and all that and they can't say anything because it was settled and they signed an nda so i feel like it's it's kind of going to be the beginning of the end of it unfortunately like i don't know if we can get more information did not think it was possible for the rangers season to get worse yeah yeah it did yeah yeah so listen uh with that and an awkward an awkward
Starting point is 01:42:47 turn here sorry uh no it's fine you're right you had to bring it up uh you have to talk about it But it's going to be interesting to see what the fallout from that will be, if anything at all. And I do think it's worth mentioning that there is a very high-profile court case starting next week. Yep. What do we have? Well, we got the World Junior 2018, because there's also an 03. The World Junior 2018 case, that's going to be going to trial... 25th, I think?
Starting point is 01:43:19 I think, I want to say... It's very soon. Michael McLeod has left his KHL team in the middle of the playoffs because he's got to be there in court. And a story that's sort of under the surface here, obviously all five accused are going to be, I believe, in court. But players who are still in the NHL and potentially still playing games might get subpoenaed.
Starting point is 01:43:50 right are they gonna have to be there in person in london ontario or just give statements give statements are they going to potentially like video call in it's going to become a story uh over the next week yep absolutely so we'll we'll uh we'll look out for that and we'll keep you updated on that uh now uh we will be as i mentioned but i'll say it again uh we'll be on from uh if you're listening to the podcast mondays wednesdays and fridays next week should the series go later then it's going to change the schedule up
Starting point is 01:44:23 so just be aware of that whenever there's a Leaf game the safe bet is we do an SDP the next day right that's what's going to happen but it doesn't mess with our schedule next week
Starting point is 01:44:33 which is kind of great we will be at Sport Check on all Leaf game nights Sport Check at Maple Leaf Square you can look for us there I will also be
Starting point is 01:44:42 doing my own streams from here at the SDPN studios because hey somebody's got to come here and make sure that the toilets still work It's going to be a really fun couple of months. We're looking forward to it.
Starting point is 01:44:52 So we're excited to hopefully see you guys down there. And hopefully, please, can we get a run? Can we please get a deep run? Everybody else gets a deep run in the Atlantic? All going to be in the final. Let's go. Oh, you think so? Leafs and Jets final?
Starting point is 01:45:07 Oh, you wouldn't put the Oilers in there. Oh, yeah. Steve just slighted the entire city of Edmonton. All right, Jesse, I think we're going to wrap there. All right. Can we end it? All right, guys. Say goodbye to the studio for a little bit
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