The Steve Dangle Podcast - Social Distancing Puppies | March 22, 2020
Episode Date: March 23, 2020On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, who wore the crown?!? (00:00), Steve lost his mind at the dog park (10:00), SDA, Nick Robertson, and other prospects (39:00), how will NHL salaries work wh...en we move forward? (50:00), is Taylor Hall overrated? (1:04:00), Free agents Alex Pietrangelo and Braden Holtby (1:13:00), compliance buyouts (1:20:00), and the press conference: war facts and salads (1:26:00). Originally aired: March 22, 2020 Watch the full episode here: https://youtu.be/JUIfo4dNiiA Merch: https://teespring.com/en-GB/stores/fancydangleshirts Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake Subscribe to us on iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/ca/podcast/steve-dangle-podcast/id669828195?mt=2 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
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Well, here we are in podcast number two in remote settings, and you know what?
It's going to get a little better every single time, but thank you to everybody that listened.
And I guess it came out a little bit quiet last episode, but, you know,
on a show that's this loud, I guess that would be surprising for people, right?
Yeah.
It's a loud show.
Well, I am new to the world of microphones, folks.
I had this camera pointing away from my face.
I had it completely wrong.
The whole show sounded like this last time because I'm a frigging idiot.
and then uh if you watch the sportsnet nhl tree uh stream last night um you didn't hear anything
oh god well what happened okay well because listen everyone was freaking out this microphone
sucks and i'm like dude this was the only microphone i could get to show up to my house
in time for the stream like it's bad and i don't want people dropping things off couriers are
overworked as it is um but it was the best i can do it wasn't very good but the stream went well
otherwise um i i was a champion i was a ones eliminator champion everybody nice um so we'll
hopefully have a better headset for next time there you go hey um you know what we're gonna
do today we're gonna bring back who wore the crown are we really because our friends yeah
absolutely listen our friends at crown royal have not given up on us and we are not giving up on
them and we i believe that we still have many people who could get the crown um so what i'm
gonna do today is i'm gonna i'm gonna read our thing off the top and then i'm gonna change the
rules a little bit are you guys ready to go okay all right so it is time for who wore the crown
if you live generously life will treat you royally and why not pour yourself why not and a friend a
crown royal because hey we're gonna talk about who wore the crown where we with the help of you
recognize one person not a leaf just a person each show who gives it their all for our it doesn't
have to be city. It can be city, country, world. We are in unprecedented times. We are in an
unpredictable times. So it goes beyond our town and our crown. The world is our town right now.
And I think we all have to present a crown each show to somebody or a group of people who we think
have really made a difference because there are a lot of people out there doing a lot of amazing
things. They deserve whatever tiny recognition we can give them. So let's crown them because
they're living generously and life should treat them royally brought to you by our friends at
crown royal let's get into it steve dangle who would you give your crown to oh my goodness yeah
you really put me on the spot there because i was like okay which leafs social medias has
have i seen it's basically al dubas and morgan riley like what can do you can give it to a leaf
like there's nothing they've been doing some amazing stuff yeah but you know what god bless
the leafs and everything uh and you know they are doing good things and i know for a fact there are
some things in the works that aren't quite out there yet.
Oh, Insider Steve.
Insider, yeah.
Man, what's it like to be such a cool insider, Steve?
I wish I knew.
The best part is probably being better than everyone.
Wow, yeah, it must be cool.
It is.
It is.
It's not as, I don't know.
Reality is often disappointing.
But I feel like this belongs to, like, can I give it to a group of people?
oh yeah yeah 100 can i give it to every nurse and doctor in the world i mean uh listen jesse
and i still have crowns to give out so yeah i mean you can but like okay my crown was going
going to go to every human ever so wow damn um man it i mean you can do that and we're just
giving you a hard time yeah i'll just i'll just put me on the spot i'll say uh all the nurses um
just uh the backbone of our society right now uh this is why you pay them well and this is why you
shut up about it and don't complain because uh when the world ends uh they're there to make sure
it doesn't right have you seen all the tweets from people going geez we need to pay teachers more
who have to be at home with their own kids.
Yes, it has not gone unnoticed by certain members of the Glenn family.
Surprising.
Iggy sees your tweets.
Charlie sees your tweets.
Some others.
But I will say nurses right now because they're always saving lives,
but they're saving even more than usual.
so gotta give it to the nurses i uh i'm gonna go with jesse jesse you go ahead buddy oh i'm going
next yeah potato change your pace here all right listen let's get crazy and i'm leaving only
because i'm trying to get something for my keyboard and and i'm not not paying attention
to you i'm still hearing you no good job so my crown has to go to cardi b cardi b is doing a
service to society from her platform. Right now, Cardi B is just hopping on Twitter,
hopping on IG Live. She's calling out the president for not reacting. She's calling
out the entire government. She's telling people to be concerned about Corona. And I feel like
she's doing such a service and more celebrities in her position should be stepping up. So I got
to shout out cardi b for doing the best that she can with the skills that she has and the platform
that she has she has gained over these years and for doing the right thing in these trying times
and doing more than a lot of people she's able to do it with a sense of humor too which is so nice
because she doesn't take herself seriously at all she knows who she is she knows where she came from
and she's still using what she has to get the word out there so exactly shout out cardi b you get my
crown for this week thank you cardi b that's a good one jesse wow that is the first time jesse's
gone non-nylander but you know there's no hockey i don't have a choice right now yeah yeah um yeah
but that's nylander's favorite artist i hope so oh yeah i hope nylander sings bodak yellow before
every game can you imagine nylander on a track with cardi b called prosciutto oh i can't imagine
Neylander saying much, but...
No, he can be like
The Rock with Wyclef John.
Just be, it doesn't matter.
That's all he's got to say.
The chorus has got to be, what are you doing, baby?
Will is you...
We'll work on it.
That's what Matthew said anyway.
We don't have to write the track right now.
No, we don't. We're spitballing.
They're welcome to take it from here.
I'm going to give my crown
to people that I think
that are not getting enough love right now and you know what nobody but the doctors and nurses
truly you know can they deserve every crown that you can possibly give them but I'm going to say
anybody that's in waste management because and I know that seems like a weird pick but you think
about the fact that there are no days off for that you think about all the things that people
are discarding and you know it comes like everything from you know you talk about your
your household green bin blue bin garbage bin to hospitals that have to get rid of stuff that's
you know that biomaterial whatever you want to call it those people the people that work those
jobs do not get to say no and are exposed to all types of things you know put COVID aside for a
second they're exposed to that to just terrible stuff every day and so I want to shout those
guys out who never get a shout out ever for anything and i think that anybody working in
that industry is having probably a much tougher time now because you have to pick up everybody's
garbage cans and you have to touch things you have to do a bunch of things like that you just
it's an unpleasant it's a tough business as it is uh so thank you to you if that's what you do
um my crown goes to you thank you for keeping our cities running frankly um because honestly
without you uh not looking so hot well and i don't know what it's like everywhere else but
i believe they lifted the limit on the uh you know it's usually what what is it two or three
bags of garbage but they lifted the limit because they know everyone's generating more garbage
because everyone's at home yes exactly exactly so that means they're and they're and they're
lifting that physically in a lot of cases themselves right so uh shout out to shout out
to you guys and you know what that's who wore the crown for this week and we we really like if you
can um i'm gonna try to take i want us to to take advantage of our comment sections um because we
have such a passionate and we're so lucky for this uh it's just such a passionate and amazing
uh comment section people that listen to this show all the time so if you tweet us if you comment on
our youtube or whatever if you wouldn't mind uh each episode because we're going to be doing the
crown for you know keep you doing the crown um shout out somebody in your life that has blown
you away you know anytime there's a situation like this when we're under tremendous amounts
of stress as a society. There are amazing human things that happen. And I think it would be really
nice to turn a comment section into a place that people really want to read. And they're a nice
place. Yeah. And I, and so I, I just hope that if you can shout out anybody in your life, that's
really made a difference. And we would love to read them. I'm excited to read the comment section
and see something like that. That's what, who wore the crown for this week brought to you as always
by crown Royal. Next time the puck drops, we don't know when that'll be, but next time the show
happens why not live danger why not why not live generously and treat your crew your isolationist
crew well not isolationist just isolated crew to a crown royal old-fashioned thank you so much for
listening to that now i want to start the show on a positive note that was very positive well
another positive note another positive note now here's the positive note jesse i'm excluding steve
from this conversation because this involves you and me all right positive for you and i often
comes at the expense of our friend steve am i right oh that's the only thing only pleasure i
got in my life is making steve upset so how about we make steve to start the show tell us why he
almost lost his mind at the dog park a place of happiness and joy yesterday steven yeah so listen
we're all trying to do the social distancing thing right i encourage everyone to be responsible
about that and that's what i was trying to do and i went to the the dog park which
gotta whisper that in this house because my dogs speak english um legit respond to park
oh i i wouldn't be surprised to hear clawing at the door any second really like oh yeah they're
nuts i can't say walk around waffles really yeah that's another one is it she can't hear walk else
it's we got to take it outside there's no even the word go because they've started to realize
that go always precipitates uh good things wow wide walk park damn bed they like bed um mine's
just putting on my jacket if i put on my jacket or if i put on a sweater they're like oh what's
he doing is he put charlie charlie just lies there like a sphinx but iggy's like you're putting on
your jacket for the one the the the jacket is is like staring at you and just like wag wag
like a little bit you put on your snow pants in the winter because there's only two times to put
on snow pants it's to shovel the driveway in a big snowstorm and when we're going to the dp
and he just starts wagging his sorry what do you put on snow pants to shovel the driveway
when it's deep enough it must be pretty deep man yeah i like it they're warm
okay oh you're wrong but see adam i don't have to shovel it adam do you shovel your gravel
i have to shovel gravel man yeah you shovel gravel
i know where you can move
i know where you can move tell your place and get four out here i don't know if that would
be the case certainly not now but well there might be i don't know if you heard there's an
economic crouch a crash among us uh i haven't heard yeah what happened at the dog park yeah
tell us so i went all right i'm trying to take social distancing seriously but i'm trying to
keep life normal the dogs are everyone's dogs are thrown off they're like why are human home all the
time and so i went sort of forgetting that it was saturday and like all the days are blending
together i had to be reminded it was sunday today i legitimately thought it was tuesday um and
every but oshawa was there oshawa was at the dog park yesterday well everything else is closed
yes and i uh if i had known what it was going to look like inside i would have looked at the
amount of cars in the parking lot and turned around and gone home but it was packed and me
you should have seen i'm like playing oh boy that was just here wait
i just need water it's not a real cough it's not a real cough i swear so you
you should have seen me going through the forest and there's and there's families of people and
all their dogs and they're all coming up to me and i'm like get away and and i'm going i'm going
like like through the forest tree to tree trying to not come within six feet of anybody like call
of duty just trying to get around everybody and and and charlie will not listen to me and will
not come and i go charlie and what i didn't realize we didn't name him charlie that was
his adopted name and it would have been a dick move to change it because he's seven years old
so i go charlie and then half the dog part comes because almost every dog is named charlie
and so i got all these dogs that are covered my germophobia and i turn into howie mandel
and i'm in crisis mode and i am way too deep in the forest it is too late to turn back i might
as well just see this through and by the time i got home guys i'm not kidding i almost had a
nervous breakdown like just in the house because there's so many people yes yes it was packed and
i'm just watching i'm going in the uh introvert part of the park the ignore people part of the
park which is the forest right the big play field is packed and all these people just morning
neighbor morning and they're just hanging out with each other just i feel them breathing on
each other from a distance and then i'm picturing it getting on their dog and then i'm picturing
that dog coming up to me that's not right no and we're supposed to be practicing social distancing
you getting that close even at the dog bar that's not right i was freaking out freaking out and it
was not good it was not a good there was a tweet that is a little over a week old and it is aged
amazingly not the best week for people with anxiety no no no certainly was not losing my
mind and i was like i don't think i've ever been on the verge of a nervous breakdown because of
the dog park before and here i am but i ended up i i don't know i'm dodging dodging around people
and like people are looking at me like i'm a weirdo and i'm like i don't i don't care i don't
care next time i'm gonna bring like like what what's that gun that batman has and we go and
and I'm going to climb a tree just to get away from people.
I told Mrs. Angle, I'm like, we can't go anymore.
Or we definitely can't go on Saturdays.
Have you considered going at midnight?
Yo, it would be scary.
It would be pretty scary.
The Oshawa dog park's pretty close.
Also, it's where all the local teenagers go to do drugs.
Good thing I've never been one of those.
Well, I remember the first time I went there, I'm like,
this would be a great place to underage drink.
but you know too late too late so what I have to say about that whole story is is Jesse's reaction
to it if Jesse has to scold you and say no that's not right then you know you fucked up right like
Jesse Jesse rarely tells people what to do I think I can count on one hand in my life the time the
amount of times I've disappointed him and it's probably once maybe twice uh maybe maybe there's
like a million times he just hasn't told me uh he was like visibly frustrated with me and it broke
my heart so if you have to if if jesse's telling you no that's not right you stepped out of line
man you're like it's not and i i find it i went to the dog park too uh yesterday and today so
yesterday it was like doggy woodstock today nobody was there i don't know what it was about downtown
today but nobody was there and i should say for everyone losing their minds right now supposedly
it doesn't stick to dogs right it doesn't it doesn't that's that's you know i was watching
i've watched like four of those cnn town halls with dr sanjay gupta and they had the the guy
from the presidential task force i forget his name but he's the guy that's at all the press
conferences and people are asking about that like does it with the italian name right yes uh i forget
what his name is anyway he's he that was actually his name his name was exclaimed loudly
he uh he was brilliant like really really well like great concise answers um you can tell he's
you know been a doctor for a long long time and very smart man but one of the things that you
know, people ask is, is, you know, is it, you know, can my dog pass it long or whatever? And
they can't. Um, but I was interesting. I was interested at the dog park to see how people
would react yesterday because you have to take your dogs out, but you don't have to touch anything
and you don't need to speak to anyone. So I was like off in the, you know, the side of the park
with, with Everly and, and the two dogs. And I was just hanging out by myself. I was listening to a,
um believe it or not you guys will be shocked by this a podcast on napoleon and i was of course i
was enjoying the hell out of it it was obviously so good it's so good i bet and uh and i'm watching
all these people and i think i must have looked like a big creeper but i was sort of looking at
like how people were reacting and it's a big park and it's wide open and there's not a lot of
forested areas and people were definitely getting within that three foot zone and i i just thought
like come on like you're already you're already here what's it take to take like one step back
just one step and then you're within the zone right you can still hear each other it's not
like you have to yell across the park you know it's and the things people talk about at the dog
park are ah mine is yours reactive two years old like it's not important stuff we don't have to be
like right up to each other talking about ah she's three what kind's this what's what's the mix
is yours adopted ours is from mexico ours is from cuba that's amazing they look the same they do
look the same yo i was gonna say that it's the exact same it's the same conversation with everyone
all the time and it's not important you know what's important social distancing and cutting
the curve right now come on well let me throw this at you i have been socially distancing at
dog park for two years now i don't want to talk i don't like talking to dog people i really don't
because it's that small chit chat stuff and i don't know if you guys get along
oh we oh we get along we text every day mrs dangle and i know uh you guys text more often
than we do we do although we've been spending a lot of time together but uh no it's funny
uh oh i saw that sounded it seemed really cool man yeah it is
the no no the thing is is that like i don't want to have the conversation
specifically and this is this is going to sound terrible but i don't really care this is how i
feel i've i've adopted two dogs that were already adults right and you guys know them and they're
great and whatever they come with no bindi's bindi's got like the personality of a cactus
but when she warms up to you she's cool and bindi and charlie got in a fight once yeah because
bindi's just very reactive and you know she hits you she saw some shit i don't know uh but she's
a great dog and happy and cedric's full of personality and it's awesome whatever my thing
is there is a a bit of a snootiness about the rescue thing like oh we rescued so did we and
it's like i feel like listen it's awesome if you rescue i've rescued twice it's amazing my first
dog when i was growing up at home we got him from the toronto pound but if you didn't rescue
so what did you give that are you giving the dog a nice home that's all i care about give the dog
a nice home let's not be snooty about that and i've seen people like physically turn and that
might just be my neighborhood like i don't know if that's the case everywhere but in my neighborhood
with a bunch of people there are definitely there's definitely something like that going on
and i i cannot stand that i don't want to be a part of it because i feel like as the guy that's
rescued a couple of them that they think that i'm in their crew which i am very not i want to be i
want all dogs i don't yeah i hate this i hate this i want all dogs to have a happy life if you rescue
that's awesome if you haven't rescued maybe consider it in the future but i'm not going to
tell you what to do or how to live your life all i'm going to say is be good to that pup that's it
and and that's the i want i like i don't want to get into that you know there's the adopt don't
shop thing which which i get but like yeah i get it too it makes sense yeah i've told the story
before like i grew up afraid of dogs i like and it was a subconscious thing i got bit when i was
two i don't remember that uh italian mom you know like they don't my nona did not like dogs
she was afraid of that like she grew up on a she grew up on a on a farm with a grade three
education didn't know how to swim didn't like dog like she the only animals you interact with are
the ones you get like eggs and meat from right right milk from probably send her out to the
to take the chicken out you know yeah maybe which my my grandfather had to do like my mom he's not
italian but he had to do that my mom always tells this horrifying story my no-no who i never got to
meet um he would he would go to the market and he would bring home live rabbits and my mom's
little girl would be like playing with them and that's dinner yeah oh yeah yeah and not only that
you're preparing it uh yeah yeah which is wild so anyway you're afraid of dogs afraid of dogs uh
grew up not liking animals ironically ended up working at the zoo um and uh you know that
obviously softened it but um had we not got iggy a dog that we could mold from scratch and this is
just my opinion i know it's going to bend a lot of people out of shape whatever we molded this
puppy from scratch right from a reputable breeder you know wasn't wasn't some horrible
place uh our friend from like a local pet store or something yeah or like a puppy mill like our
friend owns iggy's brother like that's how like same mom same dad we know we got this puppy that
we could mold from scratch and it turned us into responsible dog owners and now we have charlie
i can confidently say if charlie was our first dog we would have screwed it up yeah well we would
challenges he does have a lot more challenges he's a seven-year-old dog that whole can't teach
a dog new tricks is extraordinarily true and i can tell that charlie's previous owner never
walked him with a harness and so it's like it's like dragging an nfl player around the neighborhood
every time a small dog no he's not and he's strong as shit and he digs in i watch there are times
where and i don't i don't yank on this dog this guy i'll turn around i am like i said i'm like
between 220 230 pounds i will turn around this dog 10 year old dog feet are diagonal dug in i've
watched the ground break under his claws he's so strong and then the other dog is iggy and he
he's 80 pounds too right when they both want to go to the same dog i got a brace like i'm doing a
deadlift which is awesome for a guy with a bad back which is awesome for a guy with a bad back
but it's okay my five foot nothing wife is a big help anyway as much as she does like yeah like
i gotta i gotta do i so i walk them on my own anyway sorry i'm getting i'm getting across from
the point we we bought or we shopped so that we adopted right right so maybe going forward
are we going to adopt from now on maybe maybe i don't know we might like alternate i don't know
but i highly encourage adopting but don't be an asshole yeah well listen it's just let people make
their choices and not judge them for it that's my point here it's sort of um you know i i my care
is really about the welfare of the dogs and anybody that adopts dogs will tell you that
there's tons of dogs that need it um and that's fair that's 100 true um but i would also say that
if you look at steve's case iggy has been a great influence on charlie because iggy is calm happy
confident doesn't have some of the things that charlie went through which puts charlie at ease
and i can tell you the same thing with our dogs like bindi on her own didn't did not do well which
is why we were looking for extremely personable dog like seti to come in and sort of chill things
out and she is so good with him she's an angel now yeah she's compared to what she used to be
and that's just you know so anyway long story short i don't talk to people at dog park because
because of the conversation you guys outline and because of the the snootiness i just don't
i like to i also like to not fucking talk sometimes i know you're probably used to me
you know talking in your ear all the time we do a radio show um jesse and steve definitely listen
to me talk way too much but i gotta tell you it's certainly really great when i don't have to say
anything to anyone and they can talk to me or i can listen to music like i can i can listen to a
podcast. I can listen to music and zone out. I don't go to the park to socialize. I socialize
enough. You know what I mean? Right. Why can't the dog park be a place where you go and you sit
and relax and just look at the dogs and hang out? Why do you have to interact with all these other
people who want to talk about what kind of kibble your dog uses? Because what brand of coat is your
dog wearing? That's why. Imagine we did a podcast and it was about dogs. That is what the dog park
kiss it's a podcast about dogs that goes in circles and it's it like we people those people
would look at us and go how come you guys care so much about hockey and we'd be like i don't know
we just do i think there are there are for sure dog people and god bless them we need them who
care that much about dogs who could do an entire you know seven year series on dogs and so like i
love my dogs but i don't want to talk about them but just because i'm at the dog park doesn't mean
i'm a guest on your podcast i think i think that's it that's a good point i'm there i'm doing my own
show and my show is silent you just you watch it and there's no sound and it's always enjoyable
yeah right yeah you are reminding me of something that got my anxiety up right away before i even
entered the dog park so well first i see all the cars and i'm like i should just turn around right
now but it's a big enough forest whatever i can escape i'm not even in the park yet i'm walking
through the parking lot i see some guy look at me twice and he just goes you streaming tonight
oh hey so i'm just yeah yeah man yeah uh no uh maybe yeah from the sports in a channel and i
wasn't bothered by him saying hi or whatever uh it just threw me off that i was i i am i know i'm
about to act like a psycho like i i know i'm about to everyone look away from me like i i i just want
to blend in i want to run through the forest and go home and hi steve like first thing right away
and that gets your anxiety tell me explain that because in that situation that's not okay
yeah okay so that's i have a question for each of you after this go ahead okay okay okay because
this you have to understand like and also everyone stop telling me to stop touching my face in the
comment shut up i'm in my basement anyway yes yes adam all right no i was in the grocery store
today just like all i want to do is scratch my face and but i i didn't do it now jesse did you
see did you see steve's youtube video of him in the subway licking the poles no i didn't see that
no it's really funny it's good it's really it's a good thing people should do that more so oh yeah
because you know he's trying to be famous on youtube um no i i i have a question about um
uh uh what was i what were we talking about we're talking about the guy who said hi in the parking
lot yeah so that's not a normal situation for people right you you have some notoriety because
of the channel um and i don't think you're not gonna go to the grocery store bruce
and so and so the the thing is looking at it from the outside somebody might say well
why are you anxious they're complimenting your work like what's your deal why would you be
why would that put you on edge because it's hard and and i think we have this sometimes with
athletes and celebrities too and i'm guilty of this and being too hard on people um where you're
thinking like okay but you have like the dream life like steve you are in your studio right now
you've got all your james reimer figurines in the background i don't care who they all are
they're all james reimer and there it is there is right there yeah see right there and is that
the one i took to florida by the way that i still um the so so how could it possibly steve you know
everybody puts up youtube videos nobody gets watched but you do why would that put you on edge
it listen 99 of the time i don't mind it and even yesterday i don't mind it like it's not like i'm
like no and i don't think anybody thinks that but what we're tell me about the anxiety part it's
it's just in a,
in a rare moment where I actually want to be anonymous and just like,
like I said,
getting get out my anxieties through the roof,
like that there's that many people there.
So you're already on edge.
Yeah.
I'm already on edge.
And then,
uh,
and I just want to be as unnoticeable.
Like,
it's not even that I want to be anonymous.
I don't even want to be a human body that people see.
I just want to be in out.
and like forget not even being seen this guy goes steve and i'm like shit and like i don't know for
some reason it just set me off but not like not his voice not his fault it's just you know excited
to see it no and i always say to people like i hate getting tweets from people who are like i
saw you didn't say hi always say hi maybe not for the next two months but uh her just hey man like
from across the street um as long as it's not in a crowded park well yeah yeah like under normal
circumstances i get i was having a weird day from time to time and i'm like yo just just say hi next
time but yeah with covid you could still say hi but just you know quiet hi hello i was having a
weird day that's all i had a much i'm having a much better day today i was i was telling jesse
like you guys don't have to do this jesse's like comfortable in his orange jersey you got your
your yellow shirt energy at least for me i don't know if it's like this for everyone else energy
is this thing that's not always there right some days you have it some days you don't today i got
it so i am like my the way i'm not letting this whatever this is defeat me today is i'm putting
on a nice shirt that's all like i'm just putting on a shirt with a collar that's that's the that
is the way that i'm and maybe you you you do it by wearing a cool visor and have a banana
thing behind you whatever that blanket is and and and you got my bad yellow sweater adam's sitting
at a radio uh uh freaking broadcast table right now the way i'm not letting it defeat me today
is i'm wearing a nice shirt and i got energy that's got energy so jesse you had a question
yeah yeah my question uh so steve's answer is the dog park uh i wanted to ask you adam where's the
worst place someone can catch you outside someone who recognizes you from one of your outlets and
they see you out in public and you're like i didn't want anyone to know who i am here i should
general i should say generally the dog park is actually a great place i'll say hi generally
i'd say the doctor anybody that listens to the show regularly is going to understand the context
to that steve i don't think that that was like yeah you don't have to over explain that i think
people get it like it's sort of you know it's it's it's it's a different time you're dealing
with some anxiety that i think a lot i think that's really relatable like i think there's a
ton of people right now who are dealing with all types of anxiety that they hadn't expected
i'm getting blazed tonight good great i'm just like yeah yeah uh you know what i'll tell you
there's no bad place for me because i love i love just to answer your question jesse uh i love
I love that anyone pays attention to anything i've ever done and it's not because
It's not an arrogance thing. It's a thank god
You know because there's tons of people trying to do
Anything entertaining so anytime whatever it is you do if it if it if it does make an impact on someone you're like wow
I'm, so grateful for that
Thank you so much for saying hi
That said the worst situation that you can get into with that
is if you're out with your partner
and you guys happen to be in an argument.
And it has happened.
And that is the worst.
And I think, I don't know why I think of this.
I can't remember the story completely,
but there was one time when I lived
near Front Street in Toronto
and I was at a Metro, which is down there near Jarvis.
And somebody, it was like, it was something stupid.
It wasn't like some big,
like it's no like yelling or screaming,
but it's that tenseness
where you're in the grocery store with your partner
and you're both not talking and you're like ripping the thing and somebody comes up and
says hi and and your partner's got to be like that's great yeah like they've got to do pr as
well and and you're like over at them like this person probably they love me but they hate me
right now they love me but they don't like me right now and they're and they're having to be
like yeah i've got a i'm gonna i'm gonna pull up my bootstraps for my partner too and you look over
at them you're like i'm gonna thank you for this later but right now i still hate you um and so
yeah that's that's when it's the worst and i think i what i remember and i don't remember what the
argument would have been about obviously something stupid um but uh i said almond milk vanilla
unsweetened exactly something like totally something like that yeah or green grapes yeah
what do you mean you like hunt's ketchup i want heinz not what um the uh uh i think i think it
was it was a it was a really nice woman it was when i was on breakfast television and she's like
she looked at me like everybody did when i was on that show and said dina there it is
there's a dina i love you and dina and and you know because dina's best and uh anyway the uh
the longest sort of it was freeze had to be like and i had to be like yeah right and then when
you're in the grocery store oftentimes you're you're grocery shopping at the same pace so you
run into them aisle after aisle after aisle and you don't know what to say you know what i mean
and you're like that happened that happened today oh it did that happens so again i'm trying to
social just like i'm literally i i brought i brought i brought clorox wipes in a ziploc bag
but uh so he's already had the purell like pull them out of a dispenser or whatever that's nice
that's cool that they do that on the uh on the baskets and and shopping carts so i was already
doing that i had my list out i'm mowing through it like i am i am a well-oiled um just machine
going through that grocery store again get in get out but then i get into the cycle with some lady
and we're and in the first couple it's like oh that's who you are right we're the people who
pass each other but then by the fourth aisle we became very aware of i'm i'm walking directly
through your breath and you were walking directly through my breath or at least that's what was
going on in my head hers was probably i said vanilla i tweeted and and uh and and and this
lady she was a with a shopping cart dead center walker don't be a dead center walker use your head
and she knew she was gonna run into me every time get out of here move over get a clue
north america you're on the right side i'll be coming in on your left my right
brainwave sorry so this one it slowly it stopped being economical
your anxiety kicked back in and the house is stocked with snacks right now because every time
i felt to go up i'm like how about you grab another bag of doritos and at the end of
every food aisle there was chips right top of there being a chip aisle so like we're set
we're set but anyway yeah sorry we we it wasn't it's usually a cute thing like oh i see you every
time but on top of her being a dead center walker i'm like oh it's also a pandemic
it was oh what's wrong okay yeah sorry i came came uh and could you hear me the whole time
Yeah.
Sorry, I unplugged by accident.
But yeah, anyway, so the coffee is perhaps too good.
I think maybe tomorrow I'm switching to tea.
Fair enough.
Now, if you know, if you follow the podcast,
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canceled so yeah exactly so at least at least we might not get anything else to like september
october you might get a draft you might actually uh the draft may be even better because uh gms
may be saved from themselves oh yeah you're gonna be forced to judge a prospect on their body of
work to date and not the stupid memorial cup which is such a i mean it's like the playoffs right you
it's like it was like when matt boleski got hot in the playoffs and got five million bucks over
five years which happens every year yes good for him and it happens every year and yes there is
merit to the playoffs obviously we haven't had the playoffs yet i want to see how amazing nick
robertson is going to be in the playoffs but we may not get that chance um in for the time being
you'll just have to judge him by the, what was it, 57 goals that he had this regular season.
Why don't I look that up on EliteProspects.com?
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like i didn't i don't know honestly and that's thank thanks to elite prospects for that but like
i there's what else do you talk about right what else is there to talk about can i hit you with a
little bit of nick robertson right now please do let's do it last year in 54 games he had 55 points
55 points this year in 46 games in eight fewer games he has 55 goals
now you have 31 assists 86 points would not have known that that was coming probably right i don't
think anybody knew he was going to be this good no um there was people were really bullish on the
pick I don't think we knew he'd be this much of a destroyer of the world and one one prospect who
I've seen take a little bit of heat is Simeon Duragachintsev SDA he's playing with Nick
Robertson is he not yes he's playing with Nick Robertson and people are quick to point out he's
only got 12 goals which is a legitimate beef with him and I even said heading into the season it'd
be nice to see him get more goals I don't think he's even cracked double digits until just now
and he's barely done it with 12 but coming in sda had a bigger upside than robertson do you not
um he was a third rounder he was a third rounder i would say sda was one of the only
sda and robertson are similar in that i sda was the youngest player drafted in his draft year
and then robertson was one of the youngest if not the youngest he missed the cutoff by like
four days but if you're on a line with Nick Robertson pass yeah yeah how many assists does
he have uh 63 okay so 63 and 55 games he's got 75 points in 55 games uh Robertson boy 86 points
in 46 games what a murderer that guy is the Pete's it's such a shame because I was looking forward to
going to a bunch of Pete's games, uh, which have not been officially canceled, but no, but
I think, I think I would be shocked if, if we see any more hockey until the fall, um, unless the NHL
decides to in July, start the season up again and finish off the regular season and then do the
playoffs in August, which is the craziest thing I've ever seen in my life. But it'd be kind of
neat to be outside watching hockey. Like it's nine 30, it's still sunny outside and you're
watch an hockey um uh but you know one of the things that that you know i wanted to kind of
quickly mention on the nick robertson thing i've always been amazed at you know you're you the the
tendency on any show is to focus on the big whiffs right so you know people that are supposed to be
like we talked for years about tyler biggs so you know the fact that the leafs traded the pick big
whiff john gibson and who was the other guy was um ricard raquel ricard raquel and john gibson
and essentially those picks for Tyler Biggs.
And what a whiff that was.
It was a huge whiff.
Now, what I don't think we do enough of just in breaking things down,
and that's not just us, everybody,
is the picks that people went, huh, but then they turned into something great.
And I'm going to mention, like Nick Robertson people were excited about,
but I don't think anyone saw this.
Rasmus Sandin, when he was, or Sandin or whatever he's calling himself now,
I don't know what the right way, I'm going to say Sandin,
um with him when they picked him everybody was like okay you know what i mean i remember that
night the reaction was was sort of mixed it was like really people wanted joe valino yes
and if you uh in the red wings that wasn't a bad pick my question with scouting and the art of
scouting which is a tough tough thing to do when they looked at nick robertson and his 55 points
last year and they said we need to get this guy what was it that they thought they needed to get
was it his skating was it his skill was it a hockey sense with the person he is is the
combination of all of them like what goes into that where it makes you go yeah i think this guy
could really do something and i think you could only know that if you were working in the ohl as
long as kyle dubas and you know scouting as long as dave morrison and you know all the all the
people all the surrounding people that they have at the scouting staff but it is a fascinating art
to me that i don't think we know enough about and i i wouldn't i wonder if you talk to an nhl scout
if they would even tell you because that's part of what makes them money is the ability to see
those things and people that you know we haven't seen necessarily on the stat sheet yet do you know
what i mean yeah like here let me let me tell you about a player okay uh in the ohl okay 68 games
played 25 goals 28 assists 53 points so 53 points in what age how old is their draft year okay
not bad point of game ish now what if i told you that player led their team in scoring
how many give me the points again 53 points in 68 games good but not mind blow hl in the ohl
in their draft year so that would say they're probably not on a good team no you'd be correct
um what if i oh wow what if i told you oh maroon what if i told you this player
their plus minus was at least 15 negative 15 worse than the next closest player
i would say you're talking about connor brown i am talking about
Conor Brown.
I'm talking about Conor.
Who you always bring up.
No, but that was a great pick.
It was.
And it reminds me of Nick Robertson.
But how much of that is just getting lucky?
Well, they obviously looked and saw a player who could play
but was on a garbage team and was carrying his team as a 17-year-old.
So I go back to Nick Robertson.
And then the next year, Conor McDavid showed up.
Yeah, and the next year, Conor McDavid showed up,
and he was okay and a different Connor and Alex to bring it as well right uh maybe not the next
year Travis Dermott Travis Dermott and then so I look at Nick Robertson this was his draft year
uh 54 games played 27 goals 28 assists 55 points good very good not mind-blowing just very good
but it led the team it led the entire team in points and now this year they all get a little
older um SDA is a year older uh Liam Kirk is a year older Robertson I think is even better than
the Leafs could have imagined then they add Akil Thomas and then then they really they were already
one of the better teams and then they started ramping up for the Memorial Cup man the Peterborough
Pete's got ripped off like listen a lot of NHL players they're gonna have another shot
next season most players will man like a quarter of the ohl maybe more they're not gonna be able
to play junior next year you have to go to europe yeah that's a that's a europe or the ahl or
whatever it is it's a tough one but anyway sorry so basically robertson reminds me somewhat of
connor brown just because he was clearly a bright spot as a 17 year old on a team that didn't do
well. Right. You know what I mean? And that was all used in EliteProspects.com. That's very
interesting. EliteProspects.com, sign up for the premium service so you can be premium. I don't
believe that's their tagline, but I'm just making it up as I go. Now, here's a question, and I think
it's a really intelligent one, and Luke Fox is no stranger to intelligent questions. There's an
article, he always does his quick shifts, and he's continued somehow, some way. And the major
question from this article this weekend is will free agents who signed early make more money so
let's say jake muzzin goes no screw you leafs i don't want to stay here i'm going to test the
open market kind of like dara prasad did to me when i drafted him in fantasy draft uh on nhl 20
the other day bastard and he was like i will not sign for that and i'm like fine i will not sign
you either and then by the end of august he was still unsigned so um idiot idiot but jake muzzin
got probably less than he would have gotten on the open market but you would say a pretty fair
deal maybe with a little bit of risk at the end for the leafs correct i agree pretty fair yeah
fair justin hall got a pretty good deal two million bucks a season next year the year after
the year after that not bad right no and and like even though it hasn't gone well for him since
again free agency right hand shot yeah he gets more than what he got sure what if free agents
who signed early like those two that i just mentioned and they just happen to be leased
but there's plenty of players that have signed extensions are the ones that make the big money
this year because based on how the cap is is made and maintained um it's 50 of revenue and we
have missed out probably on 40 of the nhl's total revenue this year but 35 to 40 the end of the
season and the playoffs and the playoffs are the big money maker because the teams don't have to
pay the players anymore right so it's pure profit you know the players stop making money through
their teams they start making money through the nhl so my curiosity the curious part for me is
at least in a hockey sense right now and i have to be honest with you it's pretty tough to think
about hockey but if we are going to talk about hockey because we are a hockey podcast
what happens what happens if the nhl salary cap goes down by 10 million bucks next year
then i think something happens i uh this happened coming out of 0506 i can't remember exactly how
it happened uh going into the 48 game season in 2013 they're gonna have to cut salaries that's
Compliance buyouts.
Sorry?
Compliance buyouts.
Compliance buyouts, but I mean literally everyone across the league
makes something like 80% of their contract or something like that.
I see pushback from the PA on something like that.
Of course.
I would see them spread it out over the course of a couple years.
Maybe it stays flat next year.
The following year it goes down $2 million.
The next year, another $2 million.
and then you make up this lost revenue over the course of the next five years
instead of just all at once, you know?
Yeah, maybe something like that.
Like, because there's going to be, we're talking about the cap
and we're talking about a team like the Leafs who,
like, let's say the cap goes down.
The Leafs problem is going to be, oh, no, we're paying more money
than the max amount of money we're allowed to pay.
Oh, no.
and what i'm saying is the problem that most teams are going to have is we literally cannot pay
we cannot afford to pay you that amount of money um you know we always go through
uh you know the teams who notoriously you know don't have a ton of money uh maybe the devils
or maybe the blue jackets and sometimes like sorry sends sends like sometimes i get scolded
because ownership will change, so the reality for that team changes.
For example, I don't think the Jets make a ton of money,
but they have ridiculous –
No, they lose money every year.
They lose money, but they have ridiculously rich owners,
so it's not a huge issue.
But some of these small market teams, I mean, they got bigger fish to fry.
We're still begging teams to pay their own employees through all this.
The Bruins still aren't, and we'll get to that.
um despite whatever's being reported um so we're looking at this from the leaf's point of view
where it's oh oh gosh they're going to be over the cap i think the problem we're going to run into
is teams will not be able to pay their players in full and i wonder if it's something like coming
out of 0506 where they just slash all contracts by x percentage and there is a precedence there
it's been done but that was coming out of a labor dispute right right that was coming out of the
contract is the contract is set the players agreed to that this con this contract season it's set
this is the deal man and the owners the owners agreed to pay it the owners exactly too but i
mean they agreed to pay the previous ones but steve okay let's take a look at your current
employer rogers rogers comes to you they say we couldn't broadcast sports for three months
Steve, we're going to cut your salary by 80%.
What are you saying?
No, not by 80%.
Like, to 80%.
To 80%.
You're saying, no, that's ridiculous.
That's never going to happen.
Yeah.
I don't think that could happen.
I know.
I know.
It's ridiculous.
But, like, what happens then if they go, we literally don't have the money?
I don't know.
Find it.
Find it, yeah.
You can never get a case where that's going to be the case.
I think there'll always be money to be found.
It doesn't matter where you're going to cut to get that money from.
Yeah.
Well, and then, well, and then, you know, teams, what are teams going to do?
They're going to be laying off swaths of employees so that they can pay their right winger.
We're seeing that happen right now in society.
I know.
I mean, Air Canada just laid off 5,000 people temporarily, but all the same.
And so like, but then I'm going to be, because I understand the owner agreed to it.
the player agreed to it pay the contract and that's how it works yeah you can't you like
union too that's what's fair but like some of these players right now for certain teams are
propping up the fund to help out team employees but then once we're on the other side of this
and you got to pay the players in full those same employees that they're helping to prop up are
going to be laid off so like it's just we're trying to picture a world that as of yet doesn't
exist but something seismic is going to have to happen um i wonder what the it's interesting that
we have not heard a single thing on those contingency plans yet either because you know
they're having the discussions they have to we're still coming to grips with how serious this is
there's people in florida shotgunning beards out of people's ass yes i didn't see that human
centipede uh shots are a new one never seen them um here's the other thing human centiped episode
of south park amazing so good no i didn't read it you didn't read the terms and conditions
um no i i want to ask you this and this is something that kind of hit me in the shower
today because that's new ideas hit me other than water it's the only place new ideas hit me so okay
so let's say he's right jesse steve's right and the nhl's got to roll back salaries on the players
and somehow that works what is going to happen now to the women's game because we've we've talked
about you know that first off it's so unfortunate this has happened this year because of what what's
you know uh what the pwhba is trying to do and so and then i and i imagine it would be extremely
tough in the nwhl who are now unable to fulfill the commitments that they sold with their
advertisers on right so you either have to do a make good next season which cuts into your revenue
for next season or you loot or they you know they claw back a percentage of what they've already
paid you in advertising so if the nhl was going to start a women's league this at the end of this
season which some had speculated that they would um if they have to pay out money or they're they've
lost that much revenue is this the year that that even happens and does this push does it kick that
can't even further down the road now because i i mean you're dealing with i mean you've seen the
certain certain owners had no problem and then there were other owners that had a serious problem
even paying their part-time workers and i did some calculations and in certain cases it's like
it's the difference of it's like six or 700 grand like people reached out to me after uh one of the
episodes where we talked about um what it would cost to pay these employees and i i calculated
for california yeah i calculated for calgary what it would be for four games and it was somewhere
in the neighborhood of like six or 700 grand at a 15 minimum wage which is what alberta's minimum
wages and so it's not like people are like you don't understand you're not a billionaire you
don't have money well no i don't have money like that i don't but if you're gonna buy a hockey team
you probably can afford to pay out 500 000 bucks like you can't there's just there's no other other
way around that or not a thousand bucks and i know that they've they've started these funds that are
1.5 million well yeah but that's that's based on some other factors as well the point i'm trying
to make here is if the nhl with a bunch of owners who are money mad if you are a billionaire you
know how to make money you hate losing money it cuts at your soul these are it's a read any
psychology on billionaires it's they're totally different from millionaires and they're nuts and
the the the part that would would be would be worrying to me is that they would go okay so
we're gonna pay out the player salaries we've lost money on revenue and now we're gonna we're
gonna start this league that probably won't be profitable for the first couple of years we don't
know but chances are with the global economy being what it is that we have to build a game here i
just i i really i i wonder if this is the year i wonder if they could even do it this year and and
now that's pure speculation but i just don't see how it happens which is such a shame because
everything's gonna be the year that this came together everything's changed though man it's
we we had uh some tentative deals and i had some tentative deal and this is obviously on a much
much smaller scale but and you know everyone was enthusiastic to do it and then a week passes
all the news comes out and they're like well so obviously we're not doing this and you understand
and i kind of had no choice like i could be sour about it but what am i gonna do
ask there to not be a pandemic yeah like i reality changed that's what happened and
i don't know i don't know what the other side of this looks like right so it's wild man i i would
hate for out of all the casualties uh maybe a poor choice of words out of all the things that
were going to happen that may not um this this potential league uh getting axed would be the
worst or even paused i wouldn't imagine to be act yeah like i'm sure they'll eventually do it but
it's like you said like it sure seemed like it was heading in a direction where it could be next
season and now it might not be right which is which would just be a huge bummer yeah you need i
if you can push it a year i think that's the best thing right as long as it still exists even though
it's a year later just make it happen some sort of compromise you know just make it happen like
you said yeah yeah lots of things are gonna get pushed the olympics i i can't believe they haven't
paused that yet why wasn't that the first thing that was canceled yeah is that supposed to be
that's supposed to be in like june three months july july yeah it's not gonna matter no that's
ridiculous and it shouldn't happen yet now i here's where i feel bad there the athletes man
the athletes have been training and here's they train to the freaking minute about like what so
this throws their whole training schedule off which really sucks but it's like so many things
what do you want like what it is what it is man like we're all changing things yeah this is life
this oh it sucks for this it sucks for yes yes and like that's that's what it is man that's there
should not be an olympics this year no no assuming that yeah i mean assuming that that the uh
i mean from what i've heard you know like you can hear 80 million projections on the news i've heard
things that are like you know it started out a couple weeks ago where people like well when it
heats up the virus goes away well that's not true because in blazingly hot countries like singapore
um there is cases of covid um and and so that's that's a total bs argument but what's interesting
about this is that i've heard everything from oh it's only going to be a couple months to this
could be six months and there are people talking about locking down new york for four to six weeks
like think about that that's movie shit yeah oh yeah yeah absolutely and i and so i think
you know everything's got to be off the table in this case and it's such a shame for that now i do
want to run through some stuff with you because there's a list of notable free agents that emily
sadler at sportsnet.ca has put together and if we're looking at maybe what could be at least
a reduced cap you know this is unfortunately for these guys the worst year to go to free agency
and this is the first player i'm going to bring up is somebody who already you could argue
lit money on fire because he's just not had a great year maybe not not been a good fit not
played on a great team to start uh and not been so great when he was traded taylor hall arizona
of coyotes his cap hit is six million going into this you were expecting people were like 11
million bucks it's going to be 11 million bucks to get taylor hall if you factor in the fact that
there's you know less money now i said 13 i remember saying that he could have the highest
cap hit in the league there you go you factor in less cap available um less revenue uh so even if
even if the cap stays the same there's gonna be a lot of owners who are like i lost a lot of money
last year i can't afford to add a player at x amount of dollars um i wonder what taylor hall's
contract looks like and weirdly enough i wonder if his next contract even looks a lot different
than the one he currently has meaning who knows maybe he goes and maybe this is what a lot of
free agents do they go well i made six million last year they're offering me seven i'll do one
year and see where the league's at in a year you know it's it's funny it's funny seeing i've been
watching news pop up on my on my timeline uh the nfl like seems to just be conducting business like
nothing's happening like that though they just are like well they have so much stupid money too
you're jesse i can't oh their timeline's a little different because they're still expecting to have
a full regular season and play every game right they're like oh by september this will be figured
out and we can be in stadiums they missed any money who knows maybe and like september like
that's the first thing i've heard where i'm like yeah maybe like in like i'm a pessimist with all
this and like i'm very reserved in september okay maybe um but i wonder like you might actually see
now that people are sort of settling into you know life in their basement or whatever um you
might actually see a lot of business get done and you might see some players who have a year left on
their contract um potentially wisely negotiating a like a discount uh a discount sort of deal
but they secured the bag right you know what i mean getting something yeah getting yeah and like
nothing stopping players from resigning now right uh they're they're the they're enacting a roster
freeze i know that okay and i don't know if that includes like contract negotiations as well that's
so weird because there's been college free agents signed the uh calgary got a big guy yeah you must
be able to sign free agents but you wouldn't be able to trade and i think there were people who
were like hey while the nhl is on freeze how about we reopen the trade deadline no no we're not
trading somebody during a pandemic as fun as it is go on ea sports nhl and make your trades there
and good luck make sure you scout the players first i think well it's and it's not like they're
going to move uh in the middle of the pandemic too if it's if it's a signing if it's two parties
mutually agreeing to something i think that's perfectly fine but a trade where they have no
control over anything like no that's that that to me seems ridiculous no taylor hall by the way
we're talking about him like he's having a bum season the coyotes have not been good
since he got they were in the playoffs they were in the playoffs i would argue that most of it's
been goaltending they went from vesna level goaltending to i think kemper went down for a
bit and then they basically went from near 9 30 goaltending to barely above 9 10 over taylor
that'll hurt you a little bit but like taylor hall again like he should be making a ton of money
but with the devils he had 25 points in 30 games good i would not argue elite especially but on
the devils on the yeah but i wouldn't argue elite like leon dry sidle had over 100 points
before game stopped uh and then with the coyotes he's got 27 points in 35 games so he's below a
point a game still very good here's the key in 65 games 16 goals yeah and it's not enough he's a
left winger man he's not even a center yeah like it's not good enough and it's weird looking through
his career like okay okay this is wild no i am wild get uh how many 30 goal seasons does taylor
hall have uh two i think well jesse says two and i'm gonna say three three time 30 goal scorer
potential top 100 former heart winner former winner yeah what if i told you what if i told
you the only year taylor hall eclipsed 30 goals so it's one nhl career was the year you won one
wow one wow one he had 39 overrated maybe it's that okay maybe it's that first overall thing
that you know that gets labeled on someone right here's one it's oh it's it's so nice to have a
hockey debate right now yeah um here's one so we went through sort of a golden era of debating
who should go first and who should go second Tavares, Hedman that was a big one um Liney
Matthews was a big one recently Liney Matthews was actually pretty hotly contested uh the Nudes
draft was interesting because that could have been four guys it was supposed to be Ryan Nugent Hopkins
adam larson sam bennett and i'm trying to remember who the fourth one was
um but taylor versus tyler was a huge one taylor hall versus tyler second was a huge one
over their careers i think i take second oh i i would yeah he's a center too he's a center
end of debate end of debate center and that was another interesting case where heading into that
draft taylor hall like taylor hall was a key part of the oh my god yeah i'm sorry i don't know how
you don't take taylor hall first overall with these numbers but still uh the year before his
draft year with the windsor spitfires in 63 games he had 90 points 38 of them goals the next year
his draft year in 57 games he had 40 goals 106 points both those years the spitfires won the
memorial cup that's pretty cool they're unbelievable but tyler sagan played for the
plymouth whalers who weren't nearly as good and he was a center and and and right and i'm not i'm
not trying to diss taylor hall i'm just saying as we all know right-handed shot defensemen and
centermen are the ones that those are the most valuable positions in hockey no i think we're
trying to slander taylor hall i think we are right yeah he's living his best life he was his
girlfriend or fiance they were doing the koala challenge i just saw that video get posted he's
He's fine.
He's going to be good.
But I wonder, you know, the NHL's been a league of long-term deals for a while.
And I think, you know, it's interesting when you watch the NBA
because, you know, they play their games closer together.
Now, given it's a different – you're asked different things physically
in the NBA than you are in hockey, right, which is why in the NFL
you tend to see when you get star players, it's as much money guaranteed
as you can because they can just cut people.
and it's as long as you can.
And the NHL seems to be that way too
because of the physical demands it puts on your body.
Your body could fall off, whatever.
I wonder if we're going to see a lot of one-year deals this year.
And Taylor Hall is one of them.
He, to me, seems like he's had an off year
and then it's been an off year revenue-wise for the NHL.
That, to me, screams let's do a one-year deal.
Let the global economy recover
and see where we're at next year
because I'll still be pretty valuable.
And at that point, he'd be 30
because he's 28 right now uh he's going to be 29 next season and he'll be closer to 30 at that
point you probably could make some money now so i could also see things going the other way though
okay i could see people saying i'm gonna sign that long-term contract when i get the chance
because something like this might happen and i might be sitting there without money one day
so why not take the five-year deal and guarantee my sports life for the next five years and i'm
gonna make this money instead of hey i'll sign a one-year deal but then who knows what happens to
society at that time so i can see long-term contracts coming like back into vogue i don't
know that's a good point yeah well and that's what happens in times of uncertainty now it used to be
labor uncertainty now it's the way shit works uh uncertainty um but there were there were there
was a swath of those deals done just before the 2012-13 uh lockout and i want to say i want to
say taylor holst was one of them yeah i think it was actually we looked at i think it was i remember
evander kane the next name to come up is alex petrangelo from the blues 30 years old leaves bro
yeah right um now he was primed to sign um they said something like eight million bucks or
something like that at the beginning of the season which I think is really low but it may he made 6.5
million this year or will make 6.5 once the season's all done it sort of makes sense to me
that that at 30 years old you sign the longest term deal you possibly can but maybe he has to
take a hit too because there were people out there projecting that's a 10 million dollar right shot
defenseman and you forget about the first or sorry the last four years and just go man the first four
years of alex petrangelo i'll take that any day gives my team a chance to win the cup i wonder if
alex petrangelo comes in at like eight million bucks and you get them at a bargain like i wonder
if that's you know what i mean and that's sort of like that that'd be amazing for any team that
would get i know i i hate i hate to always make it about the leafs but holy shit they're so screwed
oh yeah they're so screwed oh yeah you gotta they're gonna have to get creative because
they'll be so boned and they signed remember okay what do we keep saying matthews makes that money
marner makes that money tavaris makes that money they're three of the top seven but you watch
in a few years they won't be because we were looking at society and the nhl and money the
way it was going right it's not going there anymore no it's different when we'll be the
next player to sign for double digits it might be a few years oh yeah what's going on well they're
talking like it's going to be three or four years before the economy recovers like not not that it
won't grow because it will grow but it means like to get it back to the level it was right
might take years yeah i mean the nhl's got to at least be happy that they have a new team
yeah some added revenue so that'll be cool um taylor hall by the way uh signed his deal august
22nd 2012 so that was just uh before um the uh the lockout is uh is everly having a day yeah she's
listen i'm sorry about the crying in the background if you have a baby you know what
i'm talking about you're probably just ignoring it um the uh she is in the stage of being weaned
off a bottle and that sometimes means that teething well and teething too yeah and so her
front teeth are coming in and they're coming in quick and it hurts and then she's got she wants
bottles she wants them bad and uh and so we are like no you have to eat real food and most of the
time she's pretty good but then there's certain times like when it gets later in the evening and
she's a little more tired where she gets kind of grumpy about it so um she's kind of grumpy about
it clearly right now which uh caprice is handling i'm sure with as much patience as she can uh and
it's just yeah sometimes when you broadcast from home you're gonna hear a screaming baby that's
it so anyway the next guy i want to talk about brayden holpe 6.1 million dollar cap hit 30 years
old he's been it looks like elia simsonov is ready to take the net do you think forget if he signs
with the capitals does he even get 6.1 million dollars now well and why would you sign a goalie
who appears to be on the decline who's on the wrong side of 30 to any kind of term because
you're a team without a goalie like chicago they got cory crawford they're a okay cory crawford's
good i know but for how long there's always a place for goalies not all 31 soon to be 32 teams
will have a starting goalie and somebody's gonna look at brayden hopefully and his resume and be
like hey that's a guy that we can just put in net for 50 games and we know we're gonna get 55 50 to
60 games out of them and adam named the winner team adam named the perfect team because uh
chicago because they signed cam ward so yeah well calgary yeah maybe calgary too you know calgary i
would i could see making a really good push not that a big save dave isn't the guy but you would
think that maybe bright and hope he might be more the guy and maybe put them together have them
together dave was good for a bit but yeah a little bit more sink than swim uh and cam cam talbot like
you want to talk about a guy who had a Jim Carrey-esque career and I'm not talking about
the actor I'm talking about uh the net detective the net detective that guy was unbeatable for like
one year and then he left yep he won he won I want to say the Calder and the Vezina the same year and
peaced what a weird guy um and that's another Washington goalie too uh Torrey Krug at number
four 5.25 million dollars one of the best offensive defensemen in the league kind of a bastard to play
against too which is why i love tory crew so much although boston fans got really mad at me for
saying that he was sort of a little bit dirty um he is and that's what makes him great is that he
can he can be a jerk and a uh and is a fantastic offensive defenseman as well if he were at the
open market assuming boston doesn't resign him you know everybody's gonna want this guy
but my question is what does the what does the contract look like and is it a whole lot
different than 5.25 million dollars that he was making already i it's hmm it's very interesting
because you were saying the economy is expected to recover in something like three to four years
that's i mean that's listen those are early projections who knows who knows because i
wonder if like a two-year deal at doesn't the amount of money doesn't matter i i wonder if
just two-year deals just sort of become what's popular in vogue as jesse said um and then player
it's it's it's not even a bet on yourself contract it's a wait and see contract every all your plans
everything has been yard
sailed. There's nothing
you can do about that. So maybe the best thing
these guys can do,
I don't think there's a problem with either
mantra. There's long-term
deal, secure the bag, and
I guess it would sort of be bet on yourself.
Sign like a two-year deal
as everything recovers
and then try to
secure the bag after that. But
you're taking a lot of risk there.
Oh yeah. You blow out a knee.
this happens again like yeah who who knows who knows so let's i'm gonna pause that there
um and we can come back to this list uh next episode on wednesday and just keep kind of keep
rolling through it but i something i think we might want to do is look at the nhl you know and
this would require some homework and steve you'd have to remember to do it but since we got some
extra time i would like to know if we had if if the salary goes to say 70 million next season
and i'd like to go through all the teams because we got the time million dollars and go and go
who who in each on each organization you got two compliance pilots which what who are you using
them on because i would be surprised like like you could say you could look at anaheim for instance
they got ryan kessler on there you know apparently ryan kessler had to like relearn to walk like
it's crazy with the injury he had yeah and a compliance buyout by the way if anybody doesn't
remember these um you pay them their full salary and they walk but you don't have a hit against the
cap which is great for both sides both player gets their money owner gets the the cap you know the
sorry gm gets the free cap the only loser in there is the owner who has to pay out the money
but the owner agreed to the contract so whatever my question would be on each team if you have to
buy out two guys, who would they be? And what does the team look like after that? Which means
it floods the free agent market with a bunch more free agents. Do you know what I'm saying?
So sometimes you have a bunch of good players and you still have to buy them out in a compliance
buyout situation. The Leafs would be in that situation, by the way. They would have to buy
out two pretty good players. And it's like, who do you buy out? And then when you flood the market
with anything if you flood the market with apples what does it do it brings the price of apples down
so if you flood the market with quality hockey players for the guys that are already free agents
let's say you do the compliance buyouts the guys that were already lined up to be free agents are
now going to say well shit now i've even lost more money and the guys coming off compliance
buyouts are like hey i got my money and i get to make more you know what i mean well and that was
the strange that's sort of tough too that was the strange thing about the compliance buyouts i'm
trying to uh the strange thing about compliance buyouts is it wasn't necessarily bad players
getting bought out it was like just expensive players it was expensive players and some players
who were having a bad year uh oh sorry here i'm actually can we have a podcast guest can we have
two podcast guests uh you and charlie come here boys yeah hey iggy charlie here i gotta tilt
You guys say hi.
I have to use the bathroom.
Okay.
All right.
Charlie, come here.
Charlie, come here.
This way.
This way.
There you go.
See?
There, I got both boys.
Steve.
Yes?
Is the obvious buyout on the Leafs Mitch Marner?
There it is.
I knew it.
I knew it.
I had to ask the question.
Do you see these disloyal dogs, by the way?
They're just peacing.
They got their treat, and they're peacing.
All right, bye, boys.
I love you.
Victory put.
Okay.
Is Mitch Marner the buyout on the list?
You go Mitch Marner and, like, Kerfoot or something.
Oh, boy.
Well, okay.
So, let me go through Mikhail Gorbovsky's buyout to give you an idea
what this might look like, okay?
Uh-huh.
So, Mikhail Gorbovsky got bought out on, where's the date?
While you were gone, can you hear me?
yeah i can hear you okay while you were gone steve said mitch marner should be bought out
no that was jesse that was jesse how dare you how dare you say that you know you know
so well i mean listen if if 40 million dollars is taken up by four players
and you've got 30 million to spend on the other 18 one of the four is gone man so what about okay
here that's another we're not getting into it this episode because we still got to do the
press yeah that's that's another conversation i got a lot of questions too sure mikhail
was bought out july 4th 2013 the leafs are still paying him this year and next 1 million
791 667 did it have to end with 67 dollars every year they had to pay him that for one two three
four five six seven eight eight years he had one he had a bad lockout shortened year
uh in a reduced role and that was it and like with a bad coach with a terrible coach they never
should have had well there was that too adam but um they're they're it's weird the compliance buyout
and like jesse's saying marner like getting bought out doesn't mean you suck it just means
they needed the money grabbo after that buyout went on to sign a one two three four year deal
at five million dollars per with the washington capitals the least bottom out of a 5.5 million
dollar year uh dollar deal like it's unbelievable now if i'm the leafs though and and maybe maybe
we'll stop it here because i know you want to keep the conversation going on a later date
if I'm the Leafs I go dude what are you joking me you're putting me in a position where I have
to buy out a nearly 11 million dollar player who was on a 90 to 100 point pace that's that is
that's ridiculous so you're gonna have teams on both ends the the have-nots are gonna be like
dude I literally can't pay these guys a team that's in a situation like the Leafs or even
Vegas is up against it like what are you gonna put Vegas in a situation where they gotta buy
out mark stone or something like that or flurry something like that that's wild look what's
happened in real life the sacrifices people are yeah forget the nhl i know i oh man it's so i
don't know it'll be an interesting conversation to have when we have it we're not having it now
yes yes thank you to associate producer uh associate producer mrs dangle there for
giving me the dog treats and the dogs adam they took the they took the treats and dip
they were just gone because that's what they're about man they secure the bag
secure the treats press conference let's do it jesse
the steve dangle press conference uh this is our new favorite corner of the podcast
adam wilde does history things oh man so this one's from uh turnip cannon okay uh let me get
Let me see what other trash 20th century military equipment
I can steer Adam towards ranting about.
The F-35 is too new.
And Adam doesn't like recent things.
They're way too new.
Isn't that the one they spent like a gazillion dollars on
and it doesn't work?
It was like a plane that they spent like $2 billion or something
or $20 billion or some stupid number.
I don't know.
I don't know anything about that stuff.
isn't that what you i'm not really good with like equipment by the way i got lucky with that
ross rifle thing last episode i'm better at events i don't and i don't don't ask me dates
because i don't know that stuff okay do uh 35 what you do to restart your computer or what is
i don't know um our part one of our shout out to us she said uh can we get another world war
one history fact possibly you gotta have a world war one history fact sure uh if you care yes they
have still yet to calculate how much world war one cost no they do not know how much it cost
wasn't there something wasn't there something recently where a certain country had just
finished paying off germany yeah yeah like like five years ago so with the treaty of versailles
germany had to pay reparations um and admit war guilt which is essentially a clause that says we
started this it's our fault now if you look into the causes of the war uh there was perpetuation
on germany's side no question there was a point at which the kaiser did say we should stop doing
this we we cannot we shouldn't move forward with this war and their judge the general said well
we've already mobilized we can't not do it now um so there was there was a significant degree of
anger against germany so when the treaty of versailles signed they you know austria hungary
doesn't exist anymore um and neither do the ottoman empire so that's sort of like the those
are like the three people and so germany's left holding the bag going i guess we got to pay all
this so um they paid it as little as they possibly could in the 20s uh under the weimar regime which
is like a a democracy that existed before hitler took over and then they basically they tried to
make every way that they could not to not to pay these payments because it was going to cripple the
economy and then hitler takes over and says we're not paying these and he just ripped up the treaty
and the german people loved it and everything and then i believe after the war and i don't know the
specific specifics of this but part of those reparation payments i believe were taken on
by west germany not as a thing that they were forced to do now i could be wrong on this
but i think there was sort of like uh okay like the last 40 years have been awful and we've been
the center of a lot of that and let's make these payments so at least we can start on the road to
forgiveness here and i believe that's what happened and i think they stopped making
reparations payments in the late 20 i don't know they're 20 what started with the two which is
yeah and yeah so it was like 80 years later so yeah that's the story there although again very
general look it up if you want to actually see the specifics don't don't cite me that's fun
right here can i can i throw one in sure so again listening to blueprint for armageddon listen if
you're looking for time to kill i think it's a is it six part adam blueprint for yeah yeah yeah
and there's six episodes six hours each something like that it's wildly long i believe it's 24 hours
worth of audio blueprint for armageddon by dan carlin and the the beginning of world war one
is there there's so many wild stories i mean there's wild stories throughout but my favorite
one is i think it was the germans were going through belgium which they really shouldn't
oughta done um and they were basically they were storming this belgian fort and the belgians were
giving them hell and they were making it really difficult and finally what happened is this german
general just like snapped and he's like i'm you know what i'm gonna go in there and he like
literally just walked in there and banged on the door and demanded surrender eric ludendorff yeah
this guy so he literally just walked in banged on the door and said surrender and they basically
went all right yeah they did that's um but you forget that they brought in a gun which is like
which was they had to bring it on a train and it took three days to set up this gun yeah and they
were called paris guns but they actually had a different name and the reason they were called
paris guns is because they were the first guns to shoot from shoot paris but they shot something
the size of a car like a shell the size of a car something like 80 miles so and if you look at
pictures of these things online they you see them on the train tracks and they come they came with
they shot one shot an hour and they came with a crew of 300 so they would train these things in
on a train and then they would have a crane that they trained in as well that would lift each piece
off the track and then they would dig a foundation pour concrete wait for the concrete to set and dry
and then they would fire the gun that is a long ass kicking long ass kicking so when those forts
in belgium they were really well built for the era that they were supposed to be in which was
about 40 or 50 years previous to this um so they they were well built they were well manned they
were well defended the germans brought that gun in and it was over and that's why eric ludendorff
was able to do that and eric ludendorff that launched his career he was then sent to the
eastern front where he teamed up with uh general hindenburg and the two of them together were
responsible for one of the biggest russian defeats in 19 i think early 1915 tannenberg
where they they took 80 000 people prisoner and they had a pincer movement so they caught you on
one side you're fighting on this side and they had another army go all the way around
and then just waved towards the end of the war ludendorff and hindenburg became the two last
generals of the german army and when things were not looking good in 1917 uh and early 1918 for
the allies or the on the entente at that time um it was because of what ludendorff and hindenburg
were doing ludendorff also an early supporter of the nazi party and was a part of what's called
the beer hall pooch which in the early 1920s hitler tried to take over the german government
as the head of the nazi party their big claim to fame was hey we got eric ludendorff he believes
in us so and but eric ludendorff they started it's so weird he was so radical that even the
nazis didn't like i just said oh yeah that guy has like an unbelievable story um sorry that's my
phone just an unbelievable story i mean you have to be a some kind of maniac to walk up to a fort
knock on the door and ask them for your surrender right so there's you can imagine that there's a
and then you know four or five years of war and just and then you know civil discord and whatever
in germany afterwards just that you have he's warped probably by his times and also by the the
the racism that was inherent in a lot of europe at that point and there was so much of uh a lot
of the winston churchill stuff is wild from uh crazy from uh blueprint for armageddon because
he wasn't the leader of britain at the time wasn't he was an admiral he was the head of the
he was the head of admiralty he wasn't an admiral so he was the head of the admiralty yeah wow so
basically and and dan carlin will keep saying oh yeah he thought this wild thing and you'll be like
what and he would follow it up with and we know this because he wrote it because he has all his
memoirs yeah so anyway blueprint for armageddon once you're done listening to the pentacle beats
steve dangle podcast um that is a uh that's a good listen yeah if you want if you want a really good
uh set of memoirs read winston churchill's read his first world war and then his second world war
stuff not all of it's true not all of it's accurate uh but they're memoirs and sometimes
it's just interesting to get things from people's perspectives anyway yeah it's a really important
thing is it's just his point of view right right which was often warped and incorrect and people
misremember things all the time so anyway that's a that's your random history fact for today i guess
here's a question from mahesh is poutine a salad is poutine a salad uh right off the bat i'm gonna
go with no because salad there's a connotation that there's a little bit of healthiness in it
you know when you think of salad you think oh this this is kind of good even though i pour sugar
syrup which is just dressing on top of it and poutine there's nothing healthy in poutine no
no it's just fries and cheese it's just something with something poured on it right pancakes are
protein right like that's i agree with you jesse i think the the characterization with a salad
although not all salads are good especially the ones we saw on the beach with those shots
but anyway uh not the the salad in this particular case oh yeah come on you weren't thinking it that
was a whatever uh adam is referring to the practice of tossing one salad no i think i think
for it to be like if you took any combination of food threw it together and called it a salad
like because that's where we're headed right um like you could say what oh my dinner plate
I have chicken, and I have beans, and I have potatoes, and I have broccoli.
That's a great salad.
Yeah, you know, like that doesn't – no.
No, I'm with you.
So it is not a salad.
You have a bunch of pencils, shavings, and thumbtacks,
and you throw them in a bowl, and that's a salad.
You've got to have parameters, people.
I know we're on the side, but we've got to be civil.
It's a staple salad, my friend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right, this one's from Bimjenning69.
Nice.
If you could match up two Leafs teams from over the years,
I'm going to limit this to like the 2000s.
You've got to put two Leafs teams head-to-head seven-game series.
Which two teams are you putting head-to-head?
All right.
I got my answer.
Okay, you go, Steve.
I want the 93 team that made it to the conference final.
I was going to say the 2000s.
Oh, the 2000s?
You can do 93 if you want.
Yeah, I do 93.
Go ahead.
No, no, no, no, no.
You said the 2000s.
You said the 2000s.
I limited it for no good reason.
We don't have to.
Well, we don't want to have the 80s Leafs,
and we don't have the 60s or 70s Leafs, right?
So we'll say 90s on.
Because the game looks somewhat similar now
than it did to the 90s,
you know, especially late 90s.
It'd be ridiculous to say 40s Leafs, you know?
Yeah.
That was the only thing.
This is a very strange answer,
But I want to see the 0-5-0-6 Leafs take on the 0-7-0-8 Leafs.
They're barely separated at all.
But I want to see the team that missed the playoffs by one point
coming out of the lockout that was built to win
take on the first team that I made LFRs for.
because they didn't just miss the playoffs by one point.
They missed it by a whole big bunch.
And I want to see the actual difference between the two teams
because I've seen contention that I don't –
was Paul Maurice the coach in 05-06?
I have it up in front of me right now.
So 05-06, it's Pat Quinn.
06-07, it's Paul Maurice.
like if it was nhl 20 rules like video game rules where you can have the same teams play
against each other i'd want to see the 0506 leaves against the 0607 leaves because supposedly the
paul maurice leaves were good they just didn't get any goaltending and it's so funny like because
i wrote like a couple things over the years about paul maurice not the worst coach in the world he's
got a terrible record but he's never had any goaltending with the exception of two or three
years um and 0607 might have been the worst example raycroft had an 894 and he played 72 games
and who was the backup uh john sebastian ober with a what 20 games 876 you can't put him in
I can't put him in.
Like, if you listen to Paul Maurice, he did an interview where he was very open,
and I want to say this was before he was Jets coach.
I can't remember.
He was very open, and I can't remember if it was either Aubin or Raycroft
or Toskala.
I don't remember which one he was referring to, but he was just like,
you had no shot.
This guy was a net.
You had no shot.
He's true.
And eight what?
76.
Jeez.
You have no shot.
You have no shot of winning a game.
So, I don't know.
It was probably –
Who was the other goalie, Jess?
Ray Croft, starter.
Ray Croft.
Isn't that the year he made the – he tied there.
He had 35 wins that year, and that was –
37 wins.
That was the least record until I think –
Did Freddie pass that last year?
Freddie did pass it last year.
Here, here.
Here, this is a good answer.
I'll give you this one.
I want to see the –
I like that answer.
No, no, no.
How about my answer?
Do I get a good answer?
No, you had your choice.
You had your choice.
Listen, I know the show's named after you or whatever,
but like...
Stupid answer.
All right.
I'm going to mute your mic.
Winston Churchill.
Oh, you muted him.
Go ahead, Adam.
We want to hear from you.
he's getting up and walking away on my show damn it this is bullshit i can't why would you mute me
on my own show i can't believe this jesse this is garbage you're back he's back he doesn't know
what though he can't hear yeah i was i was i was hoping to freak out in the background the whole
time it was good no you gotta listen to my answer i'm gonna make you sit there go ahead adam i want
to see okay so the the 2016 leafs which were the the leafs that played against washington yes okay
i want to see that team play the 2003 2004 leafs now the reason for that is it's the young leafs
stars these budding young amazing stars taking on the oldest but most skilled leafs team i've ever
seen so let me run you down so much farther should have gone way further than what they had but look
at look at this team okay you got sundin mccabe new and dyke owen nolan gary roberts darcy tucker
thomas cabriolet nick andrew pavla uh alex mcgillney robert reichel um and then you had
you added at the trade deadline brian leach and lon francis and then your goalies are ed belfer
and and uh and trevor kidd i guess michael talcow has played 12 games that year too but he had an
eight, nine, four. Oh, Trevor kid was even worse. Eight 76. Holy moly. Um, you have like, I just
named two solid lines right there. Tom Fitzgerald was on that team. Ty Domi's on that team. Michael
Renberg is on that team. Um, young Matt Stajan is on that team. Uh, you've got a very young
Carla Koliakova playing a couple of games into Ackie Berg. Um, but even Harold Drukin was on
that team. Uh, like there was, there are players on that team. Brian Marchman was on that team
who got the entire season he he had four points in 75 games but he's a defenseman whatever well
yeah no it's hard to shoot the puck when you're just aiming your ass directly at everyone's knee
but that team is like you know star star star star now mcgillney only played 37 games that
year but he still had 30 points um gary roberts had a great year joe newendike had a great year
like and this is back in the dead puck era i think that team versus the leafs young star team before
they developed would be so interesting because you get not only you get the the old versus the
young you get established stars who are a little past their prime all of them were um except for
matt's and then you've got these young guys who are not even close to their prime and i think that
would just be fun to watch young guys plus freddie anderson so that was that was sorry sorry no it's
it'd be a fun game there was a whack thing coming out of the uh 0506 well no sorry it was the 0405
lockout the leafs trade uh for brian leach they traded a lot for him now the rangers weren't able
to turn it into anything but they traded a lot for him uh they get but part of the reason they
paid so much for brian leach is they got him for two years right so he plays the remainder of 0304
the next season wiped out hockey comes back leafs no longer have brian leach he's a free agent signed
with boston right which was such a bummer hall of fame defenseman and they had him for a full year
lost him yeah and he looked amazing with brian mccabe and said brian mccabe was the best defense
partner he ever had that's what he said in toronto shut up brian shut up i know it's crazy don't tell
me that man i know i know that's when brian mccabe was just scary too so anyway those are the jesse
do you have an answer would you like to pick this up i'd like to see the 60 i want to meet you again
i'd like to see the 16 17 leafs that you just talked about play the current leafs oh i want
to see if 16 17 matthews tries harder than 2020 matthews you know because we always we talk about
this team right now and how much they they don't care and how much they're not trying i want to
see if that team truly tried a little harder than these current guys they definitely aren't as
skilled because the same guys who are just a little older and you got guys who have left like
on that team and whatever but i just want to see if they if their effort could just out effort this
current team who's clearly more skilled but might not have the as much passion as that leafs team
did that would be fascinating because i've like as soon as you said young math well rookie matthews
versus now i'm like now matthews would eat him alive what are you talking about and like that
goes for marner and that goes for nylander certainly but it should go for everybody i
think but i think just the combination of the guys on the team it's playing together versus
the combination of the guys who are there now i don't know it'd be a nice scientific survey just
to see how much these guys are actually trying can i say i'm still mad at nasm cadre i haven't
forgiven him he should be a leaf he should have been a leaf for life and he made the trade kyle
dubas did not trade him to colorado nazem kadri made the trade when he cross-checked jake
in the face he left kyle dubas with no option dubas looks like a like a complete schmuck
oh damn it naz you should still be a leaf i hate it yeah i agree miss naz and we're good on
questions all right well listen oh great we're gonna end on that note thanks naz you ruined
this too thank you hey thanks so much for tuning in and obviously for sticking with us as we figure
out our new system and setup jesse uh i i should have crowned you at the beginning of the episode
because you have been working your ass off for two different broadcasts too late
oh i can't tell you how much effort jesse's put in um well he puts in an insane amount on
on a regular week but uh you know to move to major broadcasts uh from their home studios to
whatever's built and to figure out um how to do that and and how to put this together um you know
steve and i know nothing about this stuff uh the show doesn't happen without jesse so jesse um
visors off to you friend thank you no i appreciate that i feel like that's that's kind of everyone in
life right now everything's moving by the hour by the day especially and then we don't know where
we're at and just thankful it gets you something cool like this and keep it going well i think we
got a system that works now and it sounds a lot better than it does last episode i look a lot
better too and might do this going forward it looks pretty good with you lying on that bed
so seductively sir how many of you are in that jersey not wearing pants steve yeah you could
tell you know i could tell steve was in a better mood today because he's got a v-neck on under his
shirt and like wow he's being edgy look at that i got a little bit of chest definition
the camera does not go below the rib cage though man i love this angle because it doesn't show the
side of my belly which has been my the bane of my existence for five years that we've been doing the
video portion of this like every studio we're in it's the side of my stomach i'm like my stomach's
already not something i want to show off too much and then here we are you don't know how to suck it
in. I've told you this as a friend.
You don't know how to suck it in. You just go,
So, hey, everybody.
It's comfortable, though.
I want to eat comfy.
Don't judge the man for being comfy.
I'm trying to be comfy and put on a comfy show.
Oh, he's comfy.
Oh, yeah.
Baby.
We love you guys. We will see you
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