The Steve Dangle Podcast - Stanley Cup Final Eve | June 7, 2024

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

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it's stanley cup eve yeah tomorrow we get a stanley cup game one it's been a bit of a break and you know what i i thought i would hate the break i don't hate the break i don't hate the break i'm just imagining gary betman coming down the chimney with a sack full of Stanley Cup final games for all the good little girls. There's no proof that CTE causes concussion. Here's your overpriced merch. Enjoy.

Oh, my God. Yeah, he gives all the good little girls and boys non-symmetrical hats. But you can only have so many gifts because there's a cap. So, you know, it's really important. Now, I apologize to everybody. And Jesse, I apologize to you

because I'm going to make you pull this up again because I have something to add to it. On our VIP episode, we talked about something that had just been released. Stanley Cup merch. It's the Stanley Cup final hat. Oh, that was on the VIP episode.

It was, it was. Now, and we tried to stay away from sports on that episode, but I figured, ah, this is closed. Now, what's hilarious about this, and I'm going to add to it, this will all make sense, is that it has both team logos on it.

And it's also just Stanley Cup final 2024. Honestly, we could have made this at SDPN. We could have ironed on the Oilers and the Florida Patch. It's not hard. Not hard. No. I wanted to know what you guys thought of the $121 American shirt merch. Have you seen this?

Oh, I thought you were about to say the hat. No, no. The hat is not that. Now, Jesse, I just sent you through the shirt. All right. I sent you through the shirt. Okay. And you have to imagine that this is available in both Oilers and Panthers.

And it's a golf shirt. Now, Jesse wears a good golf shirt. He wears a golf shirt. Well, he's not wearing one today. No. Occasionally you'll see SDPN golf. Sometimes he has a nice little cost blue shirt,

which I've seen him in, but up to the top looks real good. Real handsome. That's a lot of money for a golf shirt. What do you think about this Stanley cup golf shirt? Why is it so wrinkled? Yeah, it's very wrinkled.

Well, it's supposed to be wrinkled free material. So that's really wrinkled. Yeah. They could iron the thing, but forget the, the, the wrinkles,

wrinkles happen, whatever. Okay. Well, I mean, if I'm visiting, like, where is this available? I believe in person in the NHL store. Yeah, Florida and Edmonton. Right. So I'm buying it to, like, I'm probably not going to be anywhere near a laundry machine.

I want to buy the thing and put it on. Yeah. And not look like I was putting a frigging compactor. This should only be, like, team issued. Like, I feel like the video coach should wear this. Yeah. I'm like, why are you selling this? It's also weirdly put right over your nipples.

i was about to say it's good if you have prominent nipples that you're embarrassed i i actually do i have prominent i have yeah any ones but they're they poke and it's weird and and so that i wear black a lot because you can't see them right you know you got those little those uh nail gun there's nothing like pokey male nipples but but you know these ones it's like i i just don't understand there's nothing to it there's no stripes there's no something on the shoulder other than the fanatics logo not a lot of like really if we had sat around a table we could come up with this in about two minutes yeah but i think you guys are forgetting something it's the stanley cup final if my team's in it i'm going into financial peril

okay we're gonna have to like like what are you spending money on i'll just i'll walk to work all the time what am i spending money on anything with that patch on it anything and well at the beginning of the cup final a little meh you know i'll get a few items they win the cup man are you kidding me are you kidding me i'm spending no less than ten thousand dollars on merch if i had five hundred dollars to my name i would reduce that to eleven thousand i'm i'm if i am an oilers fan i'm buying this you're right i'm buying this now i want to say that that you have one of these right you got a you got a tattoo tattoo steve has a tattoo would you get a maple leafs stanley cup final or state would you wait till after the finals

were done whether you could confirm they would win or do you have the stones to go i'm gonna get a leaf stanley cup final tattoo because they at least made it i would get big angel wings on my back and in the barbed wire around the leaf it'll say finally finally finally 2020 the cup has come back apparently according to jess yeah that's right yes that's right now um would you spend your money on that jesse i just sent you the next text here okay um you're you're delaying a lot to what you should have actually started the show what should i have started the show we have a live show you're supposed to just just while we're on this while we're on this while we're on this hey it's all part of the plan we're all part of the plan stupid guys uh no no no no it's all part

of the plan would you spend your money on one of these no because i would instead spend it on no no oh jesse can you bring it up please yeah oh oh the uh wwe announced the release of its first officially licensed nhl product a stanley cup legacy title belt commemorating the winner of the 2024 finals so one team will be put on a belt and you'll be able to buy it nice would you spend your money on it 100 and i think if the florida panthers win it they all have to go down to the performance center in florida and like take the belt and like stand on the rope with it it's one thing to skate at center ice with it above your head you know stone cold give me a hell yeah no you got to be on the second rope holding this thing it looks a little cheaply made you know how

you get the belts and it's like the metal plate on the front and then it's the metal stuff on the side this seems like all one piece well right yeah not all belts are the ones that like adam copeland has right but i hope they have different tiers of belt i guess yeah like the actual kind of metal piece on the front this seems like one flat kind of plastic thing well jesse i think i think you're getting to the next evolution of championship rings because they're getting fist size yeah and it's getting to the point where it's like just give everyone a belt right give everyone a championship belt it's 2024 ring culture is over we're all on belt culture now i kind of like it the cool thing that teams are doing these days is the opening of the ring so

the ring like opens up and then you have like inside like the stadium or whatever and it's lit up little things in there it's got a little light in it a lot of the time yeah inside the ring box there's a lot of wedding rings that you ring boxes that you open no I don't mean the ring box I mean the actual oh the actual ring like

it like it's it splits open and you know like how close are we to the John Cena spinner belt really like at this point just have a ring where you can go and then like the Oilers logo spins that's kind of cool why not why not dude i won the stanley cup oh you don't think i should do that well maybe go win the

cup asshole i'm gonna do it i'm gonna do whatever i want with my stanley cup i'm gonna have it shoot lasers like buzz lightyear i'm gonna like i'll do whatever i want oh god can you tell i i just spend so much time dreaming about it you want it so bad he wants it so very bad i really do um um okay uh uh jesse what are you looking up there are you looking up no i was just looking at some of the rings that open but you have to get to the live show we have to announce well i so boston pizza ladies and gentlemen we're doing a game three next thursday boston pizza live in stouffville stouffville ontario uh you can get the link in the description right now uh get your tickets uh and you know here's what you get uh you get to we get we do a show and

The great thing is, and I tried this out last time at our last Boston Pizza in Vaughn. It is 1060 Hoover Drive, by the way, Hoover Park Drive. The great thing about this is that Steve Dangle, the one and only, will be streaming his Stanley Cup final stream right there, live in the restaurant. Yeah, and it says, come watch STP perform live at Boston Pizza Stouffville, June 13th, 2024 at 11 p.m. That's what I wanted to address there. We will fix that. It says 11. The actual start time is right below it, where it says 7 to 8.

That's right. We'll be doing the show. Come after the game for, yeah, no. I think they closed at 11. Yeah, no, no. Yeah, so show before the game, and then I will be doing a strum. Or a side cast. Or a side cast.

More like Streamville, you know? What is this? Stream City? What is this? Stream City? Very excited. Someone brings me pierogi pizza. What is this?

Pierogi Pizza City? it's uh it's gonna be a good time we're uh we're really really excited about that so the last time worked out really well and i gotta tell you doing the difference between doing a sidecast or a stream in this building alone which is fun versus doing one with a whole bunch of people in the room it's you get a lot more ant now that's not that's that first off being amped not a problem for me but it's definitely not a problem for you so i'm wondering what the hyper levels are going to be no it kicks in it kicks in because i try not to talk to too many people before the show starts because you know i can't i can't shut it off i talk to one person

which means i need to talk to the room but at some point we're gonna have to to do the show so i like pretend to be helping set up like even though i don't really know how to do anything and yeah we always ask jesse and he's like i got it yeah and i'm pretending like there isn't a room full of people who aren't like say things silly man and then the show starts and everyone goes woo and I go what and it doesn't take much to get me excited I'm like a dog

when you get home from work I think it'll be fun it's gonna be a good time it will watch everybody watching you do the stream I um there's two coffees in this cup I think that explains a little bit the beginning of the show I have never yeah done a stream in front of people it's gonna be fun a show in front of people not a stream

um I I I am glad my first one is not a leaf game. Why is that? Oh, because it could be devastating. Well, no,

no, yes, but no, no, there have been, I think back to, I lost my shit when Justin Hall got called for the penalty in game seven, 2022.

And like, I lost my shit for the, the call. I lost my shit for the whole penalty kill. i lost my shit for like five minutes afterwards and like if i just had the added adrenaline of a full room of people oh i don't know i don't know how that would go yeah so i'm glad to have a good series is a good series um with no dog in the fight though perhaps a cat you get it because hey oh you're gonna turn 35 one day and that's gonna be fucking hilarious

speaking of links in the description uh the last episode the link in the description to our virtual 5k where you can donate it was taken to a page where you can register and then donate which i think discouraged a lot of people to donate so we fixed the link and now it's straight to one where you just sent to the donation page if you wish to make a donation so head to the link in the bio once again no registration necessary you can just donate to our 5k which will go to support get the get real movement in toronto and rainbow railroad and we have to come up with some sort of gimmick again for our 5k if we reach our goal oh because we're not doing it if we don't reach the goal no like last year we reached our goal and that's why adam wore the pajamas on the beach steve got his

kayak and i ran in hockey gear so we have to have our gimmick again for people to donate we could still do the kayak thing where i actually kayak for five kilometers i want no i want the kayak thing but i want it in your pool uh i want you to just go in your pool in a circle a little baby circle yeah just spinning a little too strong there you go i think we should yeah we should simulate steve kayaking his portion of it in his pool what are you gonna do i don't know yet i don't know i i want it i want to do something fun uh but i i don't know yet i have to think about that i'm open to suggestions can yours be like a time challenge a time challenge like like you like you're like final boss dad you know what i

mean like so you can't stand with your hands on your hips in your white tennis shoes and stare at the lawn uh-huh for five kilometers but you can do it for a certain amount of time so i stare at the law yeah no i gotta move like on a day where it's raining i got it jesse's got all right all right we got we got muttered to yourself we needed this we're gonna get a giant wooden barrel we're gonna get adam to stand in it and he has to crush fruit with his bare feet he is the gripper king of gripper nation we must involve the grippers adam crushes fruit with his feet it won't end up on any weird website at all you know what i like it we spent all this time asking if we could never bother to ask if we should did you know that one of your streams

it didn't reach full monetization so youtube flagged it for for half it's like this won't appeal to all advertisers and i'm pretty sure it's because there was a lot of feet on the screen and a lot of i didn't put a lot of feet on the stream no i didn't put it you put another beat put one it's like oh i didn't put a lot of boobs yeah but you're not supposed to show boobs but feet are not boobs youtube flagged it as not suitable for all advertisers really yeah there was just a little too much gripper talk but i think so it's the gripper talk that's doing it No, like do we need to be changing the name? Did you not?

Did you and Hayden not have feet on the screen overlay at one point? No, Hayden. In the last game, Hayden put cartoon feet underneath the clock. Yeah. Yeah. What did I just say? I didn't think that was that bad. Was there not feet on the overlay?

I thought he was just being funny. That's funny, man. I just thought, why can't YouTube have a sense of humor? Yes, Maddie. okay but the fruit crushing part how do we incorporate the 5k into yes he has to crush enough fruit to be like that you may got to take enough steps to where you go five okay lay out you know five kilometers of blueberries no here's what i think we do here's what i think we do 5k is like 10 000 steps then you have to take like 10 000 stomps on the fruit okay yeah you know

what we'll do too like i'll get like a watermelon yeah and then i can really yeah that one's it's gotta be like old yeah we gotta leave it out in the sun how about apples yeah and you know what we could probably talk to like a supermarket with it throw out their food afterwards and we'll get some old food for free yeah let's not waste food no and we're not getting a fresh watermelon we're getting the we're getting a bad watermelon we'll go we'll go dumpster diving at like a metro i like that yeah i like that it'll all be a part of the video but this is only if we reach our goal yeah and you know you can just and they will be stinky you could just like walk in your bare feet and your bare feet yeah yeah bare feet 5k i could do that that's fine i could do that no but do i want

it bf 5k what's what's more of a tease is it is it on the is it on the hot pavement or it's not about that it's gonna get flagged again what if they're really soapy i think i'm gonna throw up what if you have to take a shower beforehand then you leave the soap on what if we sure looks stinky what if they're really clean they have the soap on it what if we kissed by the barefoot 5k walk oh my god all right adam will do a barefoot 5k on wet pavement or hot pavement with soapy feet i like it and along the way of the 5k we'll lay out some old fruit okay you gotta walk through okay and i would appreciate it if we if we just made sure there was no glass because that's not

I'm not promising shit okay so if you want this to happen at the top of the description right now hit the link donate to our virtual 5k and help us reach our goal for rainbow railroad rainbow railroad get real and now I need to come up with something are they sure that they want to be associated with

us no I don't that was really what I was thinking the whole time you didn't say the shit in front of Courtney we know Courtney was very nice I wonder if she knows what she signed up no of course she doesn't what oh my god oh all right we need games so bad we do need some game no but listen these these all came up out of the games oh that's all what are you doing yeah that's what i said i need to

come up with something i don't know what it is yet um i don't know you know what i think you should do what's that you should do a champion's walk what is that you should carry the cup for 5k above your head gonna be really i can probably like i don't even know how long i could do that You shouldn't use mine. You should use the smaller one. If I don't have to carry it above my head, I can do it. No, no. You can even strap it on your back or something like that.

Okay. As long as I just carry it in my hands, I can do that. Yeah. I can do that for 5K. Okay. I feel like, no, we should honor Jesse. Jesse had a great achievement. That's his parade.

That's his... That is Jesse's Stanley Cup parade. Yeah. And our job is to stand beside Jesse and clap the whole way and be like, wow, look at this. Wow, that's amazing. That's like 25 minutes of clapping. Listen. I've done worse things for more or less

Jesse just loop it in post production there you go yeah we can just do that I'll run one lap and then replay it I want to be I want to have as much fun at that parade as Paul Gasol had and or Marcus all had for the Raptors that's what I want

that's what I want all right so we're going to be doing that hey guys I sent Jesse a link here I want to know what you think we got some updated stuff from hockey jersey on twitter hky jersey uh looks like first off the leafs will be will maintain their jersey selections throughout the entire year next year so the revamped saint pat's jersey sorry steve you're not getting your all it needs to be all green i agree with you uh the justin bieber flip

jersey is going to be there and then of course they're home and away uh so relatively the same and most teams are like that that was the mandate from moving from adidas to uh fanatics full-time is most teams will maintain their logs just to make the ease of transition simple. Well, and I think it'd be good for that company to slow down. Yeah, they're taking over the same factories that are in

somewhere in Quebec. I forget where, but it's so it'll be easy to switch everything over because the same machine, same employees, everything, but it'll just take a while to get them used.

Well, and it's going to be great when you can see through the players jerseys this year. I'm thrilled for that. I'm excited. That's Nike. People are like, well, yeah, people like all the it'll be the same.

They're taking over the factories. The materials won't be. Um, you know, cause that matters. So I'm, I'm jury's still out on my, in my mind, but I've, I've heard some encouraging things. What two teams that are going to change are two California teams. Uh, and they're going to change back to older versions. What people like, uh, in terms of their versions of Jersey.

So the Los Angeles Kings and the Anaheim ducks. Now I think the King's jerseys when they won the cup were extraordinarily basic, but King's fans loved them and they were great. they want to go back to gretzky era kings and they want to go back to korea solani era ducks and i think the ducks need this more than even the kings do because the ducks jerseys have been brutal for years yeah and like you like probably the worst downgrade in terms of jerseys yeah like flying foot d is not yeah well i mean listen sometimes well brian burke very underratedly like he went from okay no more silly damn logo we're gonna be uh here's a wing we're no foot

ox is is what they were they were the foot ox um because duck foot and ox um but it was black and it looked cool and like intimidating and it looked good on chris pronger you know what i mean also they won and they were a really good team and then they're like okay here's the same thing but like with they just changed it so gradually over time i'm like what is this freaking mess of stripes yeah i have no idea and then now it's bright freaking orange okay what are we doing here the the the anaheim ducks have a bit of um bit of a bit of a vancouver canucks identity crisis the the canucks don't have that problem anymore but for several years there i'm like okay what is your color scheme what do you wear like jersey in jersey out whenever whenever you change what

do you wear so the ducks changing to their old logo and old colors like mighty ducks movie yeah the green well that what is a teal green and purple yep really really good i wouldn't mind if they simply went to the current color scheme and just had that jersey but if if you're gonna have that yeah yeah so but if you're gonna switch color schemes as your like main jersey okay fine great stay there for a bit stay there for a bit when it connects initially change back to blue and green i'm like all right whatever this is just another stupid thing but you know even though it looked good it's just okay they're just gonna change their colors to friggin purple and friggin sparkles who knows um but then they stuck with it for a while and now i think it's actually

one of the cleanest jerseys in the league so if the ducks stick with that great for them things too i also just want to remind you jesse can we pull this up is this possible uh i want to remind you of how things started at training camp for the ducks last year on their 30th anniversary do you remember do you remember vague do you remember i i feel like it got uh eclipsed by steven samkos being in a huff it did but like the day before this jersey was the most viral on the internet it was great i don't remember you don't remember oh there's so many patches jersey that's right so they had their their 30th anniversary patch they had their sponsor patch and i actually don't even know that brand so i don't know who they are but then they

had the assistant captain underneath the 30th anniversary patch like what are you doing a three patch jersey what are you doing too much and they had shoulder patches too by the way yeah and you could easily just swap one of them out for the cool all of those patches are fine just find a place to put them where you don't look like a formula one car yeah what are you doing yeah and you know what take the shoulders and put the 30th anniversary on the shoulders yeah because they have two upper shoulder patches just swap one out yeah which have the old ducks crest on them yeah not interesting that's an ugly logo it is it's really ugly yeah it's one of the worst yeah and i think because they've been they they were good with that logo we ignored how bad it was but it's

a bad logo well when it was tinier it was easier to ignore when they were the foot ux right when said ducks yes yes but now that's just the full thing on the chat i'm glad they're moving away from it it's not great can we pull up an la king's jersey from last year jesse would that be okay just to talk about that because because here's the thing i'm a big proponent of i want them to go back to the lakers colors now i know i know it's it was under jack kent cook who was a canadian guy who owned both the lakers and the kings and uh and i know that when when the the bus family bought both they really only cared about basketball and they sold off the la kings uh to peter pocklinton who made his money through collectibles bizarre that's a story you've got to literally the

weirdest story ever is he my kind of guy he's your kind of guy except for the trail park and uh and uh they then they go to black and white and this is the gretzky era right so we're post marcel dion right into squarely into gretzky robotai i think yuri curry was there for a while um kelly rudy friend of steve dangle uh nicest guy on the air nice man just a good man a good man let's have a look at their jerseys from last season here the jerseys fine it's fine but it's not exciting no the logos the old ones infinitely better like yeah look at dono it's so good that i'm willing to tolerate the shiny helmet you don't like the shiny helmet yeah i love people hate white gloves too but i don't mind it at all why do they hate white gloves jesse you're the

you're the guy that gets this a little bit more than i think steve and i do you get the aesthetic part i love the white yeah i'm a fan of it to be honest i like the white gloves i like the shiny helmet i like the white on white i like when you they match in the colors like that i think it looks it looks clean that is that's also the honkinest logo in all of hockey it's big that's who they are it's bigger than the gretzky kings yeah oh everyone is oh yeah we're the ducks the sharks the kings yeah you want the crown logo i would love the crown logo back i know they're not going to do it but i just i think that i i do like the idea of city colors like teams that are i get that wrap into it you know like i get the blue jays the leafs they kind of

have this now tfc is red pittsburgh raptors definitely blue raptors were not blue but they did talk about 15 years ago changing the raptors name to the huskies and making them blue and white that was a real thing they were this close to rebranding the raptors which is crazy when you think about it but that's what they were going to do because they're the city colors are blue and white well argonauts are blue and white you know what you want to do is uh have an expansion team take forever to establish that brand and then as soon as it is established change it well listen i'm not saying i'm not saying they were a well-run franchise under uh under the pension plan the new wnba team being the huskies yeah that could make some sense changing the raptors no

i saw a funny tweet about that someone was like we should call them the wrapped hers oh i kept seeing the uh toronto gal dem oh okay drizzy all right um the king's logo right now isn't the like the crest with just la on it's not the best it's not very early 2000s and everyone just sort of left that but not early 2000s early 2010s and everyone left that behind except for them yeah It's the minimalist, hey, your floor is gray and your walls are white. It reminds me of the Leafs pajama jersey. Oh, gross. I'm happy they're changing it.

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And during those shows, you just happen to have explosive information that CJ is ready to to drop. And specifically, obviously, the clip that everybody's talking about today is the Marner clip. OK, do you want to play it? I feel like we could and promo it. But there's other things that happen in this show. So we will talk about some of the other stuff that he came out with. I mean, I'm glad we have another opportunity to talk about Marner because I know we did today's Friday, Wednesday. um i want to not redo it but i want to think about it from his perspective okay which i haven't

adequately addressed okay jesse blake go ahead here's what cj said about mitch marner on the cj show yesterday i mean to the conclusion that they can just have mitch marner on the roster and walk into free agency or would a stalemate in the negotiations force him to waive his no move and find a trading partner i think they're very wary of making a bad trade which you know you you would be every time you're making a trade but you know if you're if you're considering trading one of your franchise's all-time best players by by points by the kind of records mitch has racked up still in the prime of his career i mean the the possibility of that going awry like you might never come out from under that so i think that they're not going to commit to ever

like we have to do this i think that you know it's more about what the marketplace yields what they hear back from the marner camp i mean i think that they would walk him to free agency if they had to partially because they have no control over it he literally has full control now it's very very rare for a player when he's made to be felt unwelcome or that the team wants to move on to say well i'm not moving and just you deal with it they have no control in the situation i mean that they have enough control that they can try to influence things a certain way but he's got final say that's why those new movement clauses are very punitive yeah well you know it took a much smaller cap hit so we could get that clause.

So just stop it. I thought it was fascinating. I thought it was fascinating to hear CJ just throw out the possibility that he might get walked to free agency. Well, I think it's good that he's doing that because a lot of us, sometimes me, are talking about Mitch like he's gone.

And that's very not the case. Now, I've been very open about... I think the best move is for this team to trade this player. I think the best move for this player is to be traded. I think if you love Mitch Marner and you think they need to keep him, fine. We all have our players that we love. Who else is going? Austin?

Willie? Morgan? Tavares? i don't even know if morgan would be enough and then you gotta plug that hole you gotta make a significant move you can't run this back again that's not an option it's not an option okay well there's a growing group of people on on twitter saying that it has to be and they're all wrong like okay like objectively like smart people saying it that's fine and they're wrong and uh it's fine um i'm not doing this for another calendar year okay now okay yeah but it's not up

see what you wanted i know i'm getting there i'm getting there i'm getting there so so part of why i'm not doing this again is i feel like it's groundhog day i feel like we are talking to each other in June 2023. Okay. No time has elapsed from last year. None. Um, so here's me looking at it from Marner's perspective and then changing the focus a bit. I'm Mitch Marner. I have worked my whole life um to get this i worked really hard to help you recruit john tavaris yep i then put up 90 friggin points with john tavaris i think more got him a career high in goals 47 got john tavaris 47 goals he's never sniffed it since because it was with me and then and then what happened i went and played with another guy named austin matthews and when he got all his

career highs he got 60 goals exactly right and you know well John Tavares earned his goals and Matthews earned it yeah but I was there right I don't care what you say I was there when we negotiated this contract with the cap hit and with the no movement clause it was in good faith they were things that I asked for they were things that you gave me and you signed on the line that is dotted. Don't like it. Your problem. I upheld my end of the bargain. I put up a big old bunch of points every year. I didn't ask the world to stop. I didn't ask for a pandemic. I didn't ask for a flat cap. That's got nothing to do with me. I'm from here. I like it here. I have a clause that says I get to stay here if I want. I'm not leaving. That's how I look at it from his

perspective where the groundhog day comes in the reason i i'm begging this team to trade this player and i'm begging this player to ask for a trade is i feel like no time has passed from june 2023 to now because if you run it back there's almost no one left to fire it's just shanahan right no i think pelly's got to go too and i know we just got here no no because how many more times the ownership no how many more times can we be nose to nose with the most obvious decision in the friggin world and ignore it walk by it only to walk around the entire earth and meet it again the next year a trip around the sun and we're right back where we were what okay brendan shanahan's like i'm the president and dubas is like i want to be the

president and they both stand at the same urinal and they're and they're freaking and they're and they're just having a freaking fight and they're trying to see who's stream the strongest is and they both kind of get their way shanahan fires them but dubas you know gets his promotion or whatever but their little friggin where did that promotion come from i i don't know how did he it's amazing that i just dropped in his lap it's it's so good but that little dust up that little battle of egos whoever you decide is wrong put them where we are today okay oh well you know we gotta we gotta take a lot of things into consideration he's he's one of the best players uh in the history of the franchise where was this energy last year when you fired the

general manager five six weeks before his no move clause kicked in you nut cases so i don't want to hear well we got to be delicate and we got to be fuck off stop enough stop lying to everyone stop being stupid stop being childishly naive this decision was staring you in the face last year and you kicked the can down the road and last year it could have been one of two they were they were talking about both kneelander and martyr which one of them would go and you kept them both you gave one a raise and you essentially gave another a no move clause right by not trading mitch when he had no trade protection you were handing him a no move clause okay and then william neilander goes into the final year of his contract guess what he's got that fucking final year of his

contract glow scores a billion goals scores the overtime winner he walks off sweden hilarious glorious right and then you know you can't even criticize his playoff performance he had the migraines and everything comes back into the series leads the team at goals so what's the problem here what's what's the problem here you had a very obvious decision to make you chose to simply not make it yeah and then next year they run it back nothing happens they okay there's two options they simply win the cup finally or they do the same thing because the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again which it's what they're doing it's insane was this the thing when you were like i want to talk from

so the leafs then next year sound like mitch no no no no i transitioned though i transitioned here's mitch's perspective to no no because i'm blaming squarely the leafs for this yes oh yeah and i think rightfully so i'm but no it's a hundred percent their fault you had a decision to make you didn't do it and then you you run it back next year you get your bottoms padded in the first round again probably by the friggin bruins and then shanahan's gonna get fired it's not gonna accomplish anything it's not gonna what's it gonna accomplish what's it gonna accomplish was is the new guy gonna find a way to tear up the no move you're gonna be in the same fucking position you're gonna be in the exact same position the only difference is you're going to

lose one of the best players your team has ever had for nothing and you're gonna lose john tavaris for nothing as well or extend him or guys this is squarely their fault and now that we're here in this position um if marner's not traded and the trade doesn't work out there's no justification none for bringing brennan shanahan back i said that last episode there's not people are mad at me for that if it works out if it ends up working out great but like there's a scenario here where i don't think you can justify him beginning the season as the president it can't be a distraction come training camp that's my point because if he shows up and is a leaf at training camp we all saw what happened with you shane in colorado you cannot have player can't have this it's not good

for the player let's be honest team cannot have this not good for the team like there's a variety of opinions here it's it's inexcusable we're even having this discussion today on june 7th 2024 it's inexcusable it's completely inexcusable he had no trade protection i don't remember if willie had any trade protection i don't think he did doesn't matter he needed a new contract it you could have got a king's ransom for him he made 6.9 million dollars last year as one of the best players in the league it's not till next year that he gets like a 5 million dollar raise or whatever it is and now here we are a year later you have no leverage essentially in the marner situation other than to

be the bad guys like if i'm mitch the way i play this is like an absolute cherub i show up to camp and i'm like i love leaf fans and like i'm showing up like bailey from wwe like early career if any of you like i'm like parties and streamers and bright colors and handing a puck and signing every autograph and i love being a leaf and i cheered for the leaves growing up go leaves go go i want to be here and then when the leafs are sitting you because they're fucking stupid and have no leverage other than to sit you they're the bad guys what a stupid team like that they're even in this position like there are decisions where i go i wouldn't have done that uh hindsight's 2020 no this is stupid this is stupid and unjustifiable and it's got nothing to do with

brad tra living i think it's unreasonable to bring him in and be like hey make the biggest decision in like franchise friggin history uh like in five weeks uh what like i i gotta move my family i gotta do all this i gotta do they're not even gonna let me on the draft floor for the first 17 pick so you can be mad at marner all you want you can think about you know i i don't want this player i don't think he whatever it's the leafs fault it's all squarely the leafs fault and it's unjustifiable that brendan shanahan is still the president now unjustifiable if they get a good deal done what is that it'll be almost despite themselves a good deal in a trade not a good contract yes okay yeah i don't think there's a contract here

guys i really don't and i i've been on i've been on this for well since whatever this season ended for them i forget what date it was i don't think that this player is coming back no i think that the player knows it i think the team knows it i think the agent is going nope we want to stay and we're going to walk to ufa that's how you negotiate yes yeah exactly exactly and listen i'm not convinced by the way that they get better instantly i'm not uh but what i am convinced of is doing the same thing again is not going to make them better either i've i've said this from the beginning even if you take a step backward like you have to try otherwise it's going to be groundhog day again we're going to be sitting right here june 2025 talking about what were

they supposed to do well and that's the thing is that you know that that's it's like well this is a really hard thing to pull off how much money these guys make millions jobs hard suck it up yeah man like that's hard like can you do this in other fields will you birth the baby then like this is hard yeah this is really hard yeah exactly exactly steve jesse yes when the sun is bright when the weather is sweet and your eyes can't see because it's just so bright outside what do you do go inside no no what do you do oh i want to stay outside yeah well i would need something to protect my eyes right like um going like this and squinting no you can't but they can't do the fake hat brim jesse what do you do i don't know what to do i put on my shady rain

great idea that's crazy that's what i do that's what he does now why do you put them on jesse because they're the best sunglasses to ever be made what happens to you okay yeah all right best thing you've ever put on your face yeah the second best now you you use your shady rays golfing right can't say that oh yeah they have a they have a line of of shady rays where it's specifically designed for golfing so you can like see better when you're on the golf course it's pretty cool i've seen a lot of people who try to golf with sunglasses on and they kind of go flying because their head do they stick to your head yeah get better get shady rays well so you gotta you have too much head movement we gotta work on your swing listen

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And Amazon has purchased or they've hired the Drive to Sive directors and producers to make this series for the NHL. And we saw the success of Full Swing for golfers. The NBA is coming out with their own version of this on Netflix. Quarterback on Netflix was very successful in growing the brands of Kirk Cousins and Patrick Mahomes. So the NHL finally is doing what we're asking and highlighting stars. And I think that's an important note to make that, hey, they did something good here with this series. I am curious about one thing about this series. How much control does the NHL have on final footage?

Because if you remember during the Maple Leafs-Amazon partnership in 2021, the Maple Leafs allowed something like 30% of what was actually really supposed to be in the series to go to air, which sucks. And it is very Toronto Maple Leaf because why, you know, and the series ends and they're like, well, we lost in the first round. i guess we'll start to the next year like well they just they they ignore the fact that they fucking blew it and that would have been a killer ending to that series but the maple leaves had way too much control and so and and amazon wanted to do it again the least like no we don't want the

promotion so what we don't need what do we think so we went over this we complained about uh what was the name of the series uh uh all or nothing all or nothing and it was nothing i believe all or nothing and how awful it was especially the ending there like you just said uh we went over that and one thing cj brought up because he's an insider he has this inside information the heads of the nhl the the top brass the the guy who's commissioned his deputies they brought this to the owners and the executive committee and they told them how important it was for this series to to grow the game so the guys at the top have finally realized this is important so they had the meeting and they convinced all the owners you need to get your teams involved and once the teams

are involved then you get the players involved so it started from the top where this series started so they are going to have those behind the scenes looks they are going to go in depth on the guys and showcase things that we want to see out of the players and they've been following them for quite some time not as long as we'd hope like it hasn't been like a two-year journey or something with all the cameras it kind of started mid-season is when they got this ball rolling but they're going to follow them through these playoffs like connor mcdavid and matthew kachuk are in the series and they're the amazon cameras are still there gonna fall they're still following them so um we're probably gonna see some a lot of summer content as well as from some of these guys and the list

of names that amazon gave us are mcdavid kachuk as i mentioned truba dry sidle pastranok swayman hughes eichel nylander forsberg and landis kog and then they have among others so if you just Landis Cox fascinating yeah if you if you just look at the names you we already know we're going to get some fascinating stuff Truba what just happened in the Rangers series the Nylander Pasternak relationship they are buddies they are best friends yeah and they went head-to-head in the playoffs and one guy ended the other guy's season fascinating stuff there you mentioned Landis Cox Landis Cox didn't play no he didn't play at all but he's also the captain he's the captain like okay you're in this series you're not playing like that's going to be fascinating

and watch just an NHL or rehab and being away from the game and away from your team and all that kind of stuff. So there's a lot of hope here with this series. Jack Eichel and Quinn Hughes to me are the biggest wild cards here.

Oh, I can't wait to see Jack Eichel's routine. They've got to run through his pregame routine. His routine, I'm interested how much he does and how much he airs about the Buffalo Sabres.

I'm sorry. Like, if we're getting to know players and their stories, how could you not mention the sabers you just won the cup after all that bullshit that you went through right they might like look at that as like the past yeah yeah but like your past is relevant to your present because that the what the trade was like two and a half years ago now yeah and then he won the cup you know i don't know but are we relitting like is matthew kachuk expected to talk about his time in calgary well like i feel like that's the eichel sabers i don't know if

it's a little old or well the nylander and uh posternach's friendship from their childhood i don't give a shit no but they're currently playing no no it's the past it's the past i only live in the moment man you're mocking me for i'm asking you a question and i think a lot of people don't like drake jacob truba but i think he honestly might be one of the top three ones so the rangers and he's got a great personality sponsors united came out with a list of the most endorsement deals uh in canada uh and these are the nhl athletes with them okay and the guy i look at on that list jesse is matthew kachuk because currently he has the most endorsement deals in the nhl and that guy when they show him on camera and people get to know him even better

it's gonna his career is gonna explode this guy's gonna be the big star in the game personality wise we are also underrating how much of a joy it is to watch quinn hughes talk oh he's fun quinn hughes is a funny dude he is funny he's extremely fun i wish jack was on it too uh a little bit more jack can be a little jack i'm sure he'll make some he can be he can be a saucy minx there's some family meetings yeah some dinners i'm sure jack will be in it both ganging up on luke look shut up luke yeah luke go away i feel like they're uh they're a package um and uh just another quick thing to mention uh that um uh completely separate of what jesse is talking about yesterday uh dan milstein also known as hockey agent one because hockey agent

was taken hashtag we are gold uh responded to an ian mcintyre tweet ian mcintyre said this amid uh coaching news the last couple of weeks there has been significant traction in contract talks between Zdorov and Lindholm. Maybe neither re-signs, but it's possible the Canucks could keep both players. Dan Milstein says,

fake news. He is the agent. So that's kind of interesting. I thought it was odd. Yes. He's one of the more active agents. And the rumor is, according to 32 Thoughts this morning,

that Zdorov's number to stay in Vancouver is lower than what it will be on the open market. so he believes his camp at very least believes that they are offering less money or they are offering him at a discount so that the Canucks can keep now here's what I would say to that you can look at that and you could say oh well that's really nice of them or you can look at it the pragmatic way which is well they have an eighth year to offer yes so that brings the AAV

down because remember you sign a player away from another team as a as a UFA you only can offer them seven years but the Canucks can offer him eight which brings the amount of money per year down also your UFA number like if I go to free agency one it sets the market on you for everybody else two if you take less than that to stay with your current team even if it's still too much that's an act of charity well and that's the thing is that none of this is an act of charity Zdorov's not signing for an act of charity he has an eighth year available to him and I think the issue is uh from reading the tea leaves that the canucks don't want to go seven eight they want to go six years yeah interesting yeah he's older than you think he's 29 i think you think whenever yeah

yeah right so and and and you know listen what is ideally if there isn't another global pandemic between now and a decade from now whenever that contract expires ideally you you have the cap going up probably 20 over that time so the the it diminishes the percentage of cap that a player like that is going to take up i hate that that goes into decisions well now it does wait a minute what if the world stops again 100 but but you know we're expecting the cap to go up about 10 over the next two years to catch up with where it needed to be and then after that we're expecting incremental growth so yeah i mean a six-year deal at too much right now might not look so bad in you're three but what's the player look like he plays out he plays a tough game are there injuries

it's his 30s he has funny quips and let's be honest the Canucks are a particularly bad team when it comes to six-year deals I think of Tyler Myers and Louis Erickson oh man I forgot about Louis Erickson of of the worst six-year deal uh six-year deal contracts out there I think the Canucks have signed the two worst and Tyler Myers is going to get some good money on the market just throwing that out there you don't make the Canucks fans listening relive the Jim Benning years they don't they don't deserve no that you're right you're right they had a good year this year Jesse what are you smiling about yeah I thought I don't know why you're taking digs at the Canucks I'm not taking digs at the Canucks it's merely Jim Benning they're stupid yeah although I was

told by Canucks fans that that Jay Beagle was a good pickup and I will laugh forever was it Canucks or uh Capitals fans oh it was Canucks fans they were like no this is good that's Stanley A champion Jay Beagle. And you know who scored in the playoffs? And that's who I heard of. Jay Beagle! Jay freaking Beagle in 2020. Anyway, let's do the press conference quick.

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The Steve Dangle Press Conference. Before we get to some questions, we have a bit of breaking news in a rather surprising front office. oh oh natalie darwitz a name you might not be familiar with is the general manager was the general manager of pwhl minnesota okay oh yes double pwhl minnesota raised the cup yes eight days ago and now she is no longer the general manager of the team and it seems to have happened under pretty i don't want to say mysterious circumstances but there's no real explanation for what's happened is the drama what's wrong well that's that's the thing right like are you automatically go all right what happened right right so um all teams are league

owned so it's not like there's an owner there that made the decision or the president or whatever individually made the decision but according to the athletic darwitz was told earlier this week she would not be back as general manager what she was offered alternative options within the league as well so because they're legal and they gave her like hey do you want to move to a different positions but there's no explanations of why she's not gm anymore and what those positions are right the league also gave darwitz the option of putting out a statement saying that she had chosen to move on the team source said she is not expected to be at the draft table for minnesota on monday night the draft is monday and they're firing their gm the pwhl would not confirm the

news of darwin's departure or darwin's darwitz my apologies darwitz is synonymous with women's hockey in minnesota she grew up in egan minnesota and won two ncaa championships with the university of minnesota she won three olympic medals with team usa and was inducted at the u.s hockey hall of fame in 2018 darwitz was inducted into the a double ihf hall of fame in may during minnesota's finals run dude the what a month the source who leaked this information to the athletics said it's pretty shocking i uh wow unless we have drama like i don't it's impossible to have an opinion on that sure because if you just take it at face value you go well that's freaking stupid yeah um but if there's a reason right then yeah so i'm not gonna chastise them

but uh sure would like an explanation and and people also like deserve one yeah well no no no no no no the general manager no was let go days after winning a championship and no one deserves and the answer is no because sometimes you okay you could say you deserve there's plenty of things that we don't have the answers to because there's legal framework for things so i want you to be remember the shane pinto thing sense fans none of them really know what happened other than they vaguely know they vaguely know but we don't we don't have any confirmation from the league or the player or anyone we don't we kind of know what happened we're also jumping the story here all because this is what else is there sure but this right now as we have it is a report from a

reporter it's a leak it's a leak of information that she's not coming back next year this hasn't been officially confirmed or announced by the pwhl and when that comes out then we should have the debate of like hey what's the explanation right why aren't we getting it but also if we want to speculate it doesn't appear to be anything of misconduct because they offered her another job within no league yeah that's so they wanted to extrapolation they wanted to keep her i'm extrapolating based on the information we had they wanted to keep her within the league you know they run the team they run the league they want but she's not they don't deem her fit for the job which is weird it's very weird and we may never get an answer is what i'm trying to prepare you

for you just and steve you disagree that we you think we should get an answer some sort of answer the person who assembled a championship team just it allegedly lost their job and uh eight days ago must be replaced um days ahead of the draft three days before the draft and minnesota pwhl fans don't deserve an explanation i i'm on your side yeah no that's bullshit i'm just saying you may not get one i'm you may not get one but i think they deserve one yeah that's unacceptable i think it's a little different than pinto's gambling suspension oh there was a lot of people who said it was unacceptable that they didn't say anything about that yeah but a lot of people i don't think it's what gambling suspension there's a right so we don't know all the you know the details abcdefg

but we got a and z we instantly go we instantly go oh this is bad is there a chance and i know that they she was offered a different position within the team so is there a chance that the whoever made this decision was like oh she's interviewing for other jobs is there an nhl job is there an ahl job is there something like that could this be a good thing and and the team was like listen if you're going to interview for that many jobs because you're super in demand we're not going to have you as our gm because we think you got one foot out the door the draft is in a couple days we don't want you making those decisions surely that would be out there by now surely it's in the best interest of don't call me shirley jill i'm kidding it's in the best

interest what are you fucking 80 an airplane joke anybody get it uh yeah that movie came out a very long time ago yeah the movie that came out before there was sound you have to understand i've been waiting forever to make that joke i've been dying to make that joke jesse always said i'll hit my prime in my 50s and he's right adam's just waiting for the moment he can say rosebud you want me to read the uh the final quote from the team source yes yeah one of the team sources that gave the athletic information on this, which just kind of adds to the mysteriousness. I'm just

here for the drama. It's the deal or no deal guy. What do you mean? The guy who hangs out in the shadows. I've never watched Deal or No Deal. That's oof. Go call me Shirley, but you don't That's a good 2008 reference, Steve. It's more reasons.

Yeah, no, that's true. But if that's the bar, everything's more reasons. You talk about the moon landing, that'll be more reasons. There are players in the NHL who were drafted in 2008 and earlier which makes it relevant by my calendar i'll read this quote and we can move on to questions yes besides building it from the bottom and setting everything up and drafting and signing the players that led to a championship she spent hours and hours doing everything waking up at 4 a.m moving equipment to the rink hanging dirty equipment unpacking

bags stuff like that i mean stuff gms don't do it's a real shame this is a power this is a power move this somebody somebody in a position of power does not get along with this person and they it's like shanny and dubas dubas said i want to go directly to the board to make trades and shanny said if you go directly to the board to make trades there's no reason for me to be no okay jumping to every conclusion here's what adam's doing i'm telling you man this is a power thing here's what this is a good general manager why are we letting her go here's what adam's doing and here's why the pwhl needs to figure this out as soon as the story comes out that someone turning the the the tap on on the hose yeah no one's holding it so it's just freaking everywhere

and adam's going into power i am the host and he's she's interviewing leo when he was a baby and you gotta get the diaper on fast yeah over the whole three p's yeah you're gonna get a bunch pee on you like no and now but here's the thing i wanted to allow for there to be positive here because we instantly go bad because we think oh it could be bad i'm not on instant bad i'm instant i'm sitting back and drinking my tea you know she's running for prime popcorn yeah like her president i don't know i don't freaking know it could be anything because we know nothing you think she's run up with joe byron yeah you think adam there might be somebody within the league who's like i hate her i think that she has a boss yeah she's not the top person in that

organization it's also like you had such a good season of almost exclusively positive press do you need this shit well no but you know what it could be good because if she comes back as a gm of another team the way hockey works is that that team and minnesota will meet in the finals next year oh yeah it's gonna be great for us let's go great story that also means somebody else would have to lose their job oh wait she's she's gonna get hired by another team oh here we go oh you would assume that oh yeah she was the general manager assume that it's going freaking everywhere adam i'm gonna grip on this thing i would assume that because all the teams are league owned yeah if she moves on there's no job in the league for her anymore because the other teams

can't make that decision themselves yeah jesse what other assumptions all right let's get some pwhl toronto can't be like oh we're gonna hire no that comes from up top right but they have to be operated from separate like as separate arms of the same thing right like a spider yes but from i assume those high level positions are the the big guys up top who make those calls okay that's messy itself it's very messy i'm gonna follow the mess yeah me too mess is fun to follow okay all right this is uh orion i don't know if people think this but orion writes hey guys fan of your belt hey guys love the pod that's bad bad space joke oh it's a good one love the pod when is the pandemic line coming out of the sdp intro and i think orion thinks the thing i'll play the intro

here so everybody this isn't the beginning of the show here's the intro that where where the intro voice says it's back at it back at it does orion think that says pandemic that's the only thing or is it like we're back from yeah but that we've had that intro since before yeah so that's why i think orion's confused oh uh i mean we can his name could be orion no that's orion yeah if he doesn't tell us how to pronounce it then we're just gonna say so to clear it up uh the intro says back at it back at it if you weren't aware hmm it also says sdp all right i've listened to it anyway uh me too i've also listened to it you see you can confirm let me uh i'll get a new question pandemic

you guys got sdp mitch marner watch your bags of chips sorry mitch marner trade question let's go that's all they are that's all we need kevin lynch would tom wilson be made no thank you moving on would tom wilson be made available for mitch marner sounds like the perfect replacement for backstrom to get ovi to the record thoughts what um i absolutely see Washington's incentive to make this great. Not a one for one. Throw in some other pieces. Most of your

good prospects? Okay, so Marosh Nachenko, McMichael. You don't want a roster player? No, those guys are roster players. Okay. I mean more established players. Rasmus Sandin.

So you get Tom Wilson. Bring up the cap friendly. you get tom wilson plus whatever you want for mitch marner i i'm i'm brad you're living i say here is mitch marner no no it should be the other way i am i am i'm the gm of carberry's boss i'm now the gm of washington i say now you got me going who the fuck yeah who's the gm of washington that would be brian mcclellan gentlemen okay i'm brian mcclellan i say you can have anything on my roster at all as long as it includes Tom

Wilson. Do you know what Tom Wilson makes and for how long? No. Six and a half. That's not too bad. Until 2030 2031. Didn't he sign that in, I want to say that was part of our free agency special last year. It probably was.

Until when? That's a long time. Steve, I'm Brian McClellan. You're GM of the year. We're Jesse Gold. I don't know how I got here. You can have anything on my roster that will make it a fair deal. It just has to include Tom Wilson plus whatever you want. You give me Mitch Marner back. What are you taking off of my team?

Will you retain on Tom Wilson? Sure. Oh, better retain half. Sure. But if they're not retaining half or I just said, sure, if we're getting this done deal, you're doing a Mitch Marner trade to Washington that includes Tom Wilson. Oh, OK. So I get eight years of Tom Wilson at three point two five.

Get it done. Cool. okay um first piece oh well you're making this easy for me i want mcmichael marash and shanko protus every first round pick i'm asking you for a realistic no i'm not just name all the assets uh uh like a something like a two or three for one makes sense there like wilson yeah jesse's brought it up like wilson is a he's a very good player all-star um but that contract is gonna be a world of hurt um here i'm leaning into jesse's camera now there we go um boy howdy that's so much money oh my god he's 30 years old i know i know i know um i don't know

man nick jensen's one of those guys we're like i want you and now he's making over four and i'm like oh never mind um because he used to be making less and i like that i take something along the lines of faravari i was thinking him too faravardi protests and wilson 50% retained i think that so wilson at 3.75 or whatever it is yeah uh alexi protests oh i forgot this is on the screen first off what he's one of the factions in starcraft which i love the proto oh okay so now i'm thinking about this in terms of like bits his life on lfr um no here jesse you get get this under control here um i think i'd probably prefer isn't marash and chanko i thought he was a defenseman

isn't he am i gonna nick robertson this poor guy wait where is he there he is okay no never mind i think i'd maybe prefer him to produce how big is he though you want the forward yeah well protis is like fine you know what i mean like i want to i want to i want someone insanely good here here's here's here's the thing sorry they're both forward it's not gonna work lapierre maybe not gonna work you don't think that's a good framework i don't think that it's not a good protest but i have re and wilson at 50 retained a framework fine but you know it's i think that's really close and ovechkin and you're getting a ton of cap space the Leafs are getting half space.

And Ovechkin, yeah. Here's what I would throw at you. I don't think Washington's the team. No, obviously not. But, does it have to be Washington? Because I have a name. Okay. All Carolina keeps saying is that they want an elite forward for Marty Natchez.

Come on. How do you, and Gensel. Oh, no, they want a mid-round pick if you want negotiating rights with Gensel. But, yeah. Yeah, good luck with that. Listen, Jesse, I don't hate it. I just have a hard time believing that Tom Wilson would be, they'd retain Tom Wilson for after that deal.

First off, does he have, does he have trade protection too? You know what I kind of like? Yeah. Modified. Modified. You know what I kind of like?

The Leafs would be on that. So Mitch Marner, it's Toronto. All the rumors are running completely wild. Has anyone thrown a team out? Like, has anyone legitimate thrown a team out there? No.

that's exciting like that's kind of fun right the reason we're being so stupid and going i don't know the caps is there's no team right like if we had heard oh it's going to be one of these three teams we would be picking those rosters apart but i feel like we're just going to go through every nhl team one by one yeah yeah okay and be wrong i said vegas shay theodore but That would be funny and borderline impossible. Okay. Two in five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar raised matters.

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Take it off. do you think if mcdavid wins the cup this year the odds he'll sign in to go substantially up since dry saddle will be gone after next year uh you don't know that i don't think you know that you don't know that hose is going everywhere you don't know that um i think the only way to guarantee that is if things were went so bad in edmonton that they were they were bad yeah like and they've given him a chance to win a cup you're like what else can you ask the whole point of mcdavid you know us being like ah he's gonna leave edmonton is him getting fed up with the lack of success but they finally built this team most of which is locked up dry sidle being the very

obvious outlier um they finally built this team that's a champion yeah well potentially no no you well in this scenario they're champions right um what am i leaving for what am i leaving for i i i i think it actually makes the odds go down okay um i think if they lose the chances well at very least stay what they are um they're in the cup final uh guys i don't think we're seeing connor mcdavid in a leaf jersey until if it is gonna happen it's gonna be like 34 year old mcdavid and he's gonna blow out his knee in the first shift like doug gilmore when he came back oh that was sad it was so freaking sad all right here we go here we go last question one more one more all right this is from brown oh three buckeye what do you think about the waddell hire in columbus

don waddell was hired as the big honcho in columbus could he bring in his own coach or will he allow vincent another year to try to prove he could right the ship when not given days to prepare i don't think pascal vincent's going anywhere um i don't think that's the move for columbus i think you give him a season like brown oh three buckeyes saying i keep hearing conflicting things me too uh with the blue jackets because i was really bullish on the hunters and now i'm not um well obviously they brought him waddell um but like even behind the bench i was i was hearing things uh i think waddell is a experienced guy with a track record of success who bring some stability to a circus and like no disrespect like blue jackets fans like you're

fully on my side on that one right like this past year was a complete carnival um and selev to answer your bottom question i think uh i think on the waddell side i think the the best nugget came from chris johnson when he said he brings more than just hockey acumen he brings business acumen which is going to be helpful for a team that is quote-unquote smaller market although columbus fans uh who have university sports and that sort of stuff in that in that area spend tons of money on that so there's money to be made it's a great place to live what they need to do and what don waddell's first job is is to figure out what's ownership's timeline if and i'm sure he knows that if the timeline is right now then i think you gotta you gotta get rid of paul

vincent and you have to bring in a veteran coach uh i don't i can't imagine the timeline is right now it's not an attractive market well i agreed so this is why i don't think the timeline is right now i think you can do what every good general manager does is you go and you go i'm gonna wait and we'll see how this all goes and then when you know if a person fails then great i look awesome for firing them uh and then i'll bring in my guy and i think there's a lot more issues now I don't think I'm not a fan of Paul Vincent's coaching thus far, but I would also say that there's a lot of talent on this team. And there's a lot that Don Waddell could do to change up the makeup of

this team. And we forget that that's a team that people were looked at and went, it doesn't look bad on paper. No. Well, it does. It didn't look that bad. It didn't.

And you know, the emergence of guys like, I don't think Ken Johnson's coming in out of shape and I don't think they're sending him down. I don't think they're, I don't think David, you're a check is going to go back and forth from the Cleveland monsters to the blue jackets all season.

didn't make sense yeah uh and you know line a hopefully feeling better uh goudreau you got to figure something out there because his dad's tweeting that he doesn't want to play there anymore like there's some things that need to happen on that front jesse question before that question do you feel like extending the show by 45 minutes because i think that's what you're about to do adam quick question oh no you got 60 seconds to answer it leaf's cat dad wants to know which general from history would make the best NHL GM? Get one name.

You can't do that thing where you run through like eight different names and you give reasons on all of them. Just give one name. Eisenhower. Julius Caesar.

Same thing. Adept political leader. Absolutely ruthless. In fact, genocidal. And also the first emperor, really, even though they don't call him that, he was the first guy that kind of got rid of democracy in Rome

just based on his pure popularity. And these are good qualities for an NHL GM? No, I think they're great qualities for a general manager because he's a good manager of people. His guys love him. His guys freaking love him. All right. And he's able to consolidate power

and do whatever the hell he wants. And then, yes, did he get stabbed to death? Yes. Don't think that would happen in an NHL event. Julius Caesar. Jim Rayner. There you go. Jim Rayner.

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