The Steve Dangle Podcast - The Best of The SDP Part 2 | December 28, 2017

Episode Date: December 29, 2017

On this episode, a special message from Steve, Steve again, Adam and Steve, and then just Adam (00:00), backpack full of weights (08:30), Hollywood bros (10:37), Jim Diamondback (23:02), McDavid in Vegas (26:30), ruptured testicles (31:06), Bardown with Adam Gongshow (37:55), and Episode 1 of the SDP (49:17). Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hi everybody, it's Steve Dangle of the Steve Dangle Podcast. That's Mrs. Dangle who's trying to talk to me. Thank you. Okay, sorry, we're just, we're heading into a, like a party, holiday party of sorts. I'm outside right now, freezing, because Jesse asked for an intro and I forgot to record one, so I'm doing it now. There's a truck. No, it's a Jeep. Just passed by. You might have heard it. I don't know. uh anyway jesse made an excellent best of for you as he always does and he's gonna blare horns and stuff um i think he has something from one of my videos which is which is always a plus and and wonderful how was your christmas how was your holidays i hope it was good i i hope your christmas was good and if you weren't celebrating christmas i hope i hope you had a good time my

friends who who don't like they go on vacation and stuff they make it sound like a blast i don't know So I hope you have that, and I hope you enjoy this special best-of edition of the Steve Dangle Podcast. I'm going to go inside now. This is Jacob Pollard, and you're listening to the Steve Dangle Podcast. Welcome to the final episode of the Steve Dangle podcast for 2018. Thank you for taking time out of your busy holiday season to listen to me ramble in a room by myself. We will be back to new episodes next week, two times a week as per usual. talking hockey and nonsense before we get into the best of for this week i do have three pieces

of audio to play for you one from steve one from adam and one from steve and adam the first one is on a sadder note as i'm sure you're well aware johnny bauer passed away this week the tributes that have been coming out all week about johnny bauer have just been so touching and steve also threw up a video on his channel about Johnny, which I'm going to play for you right now. And if you want to watch the visuals, head up to Steve's YouTube channel. The video's right there. I'm sure you're already subscribed. Here is Steve Dangle remembering Johnny Bauer. Hey, everyone. I hope your Christmas was good, and I hope your Boxing Day was full of at least decent parking. I was really hoping the next time I'd get to talk to you would be under cheerier

circumstances, but as you know, we've experienced a loss. I'm sure most of you saw this Lance Hornby tweet. Johnny Bauer has passed away at age 93. A family statement coming shortly. Well as it turned out it wouldn't just be a family statement, everyone had something to say about Johnny Bauer. Hornby's timeline was littered with quotes about him from Brandon Shanahan, George Armstrong, Dick Duff. Seriously, at Son Hornby on Twitter, you should just check out his timeline and click on some of the stuff he's written. Lance is just a quiet pro. And you know what, it's obviously very set. I'm sure a lot of Leafs Nation shed some tears over this. The one that did it for me was the Flinter posted the video of when Johnny Bauer got his jersey retired at the Leafs home

opener for the 16-17 season. Watch that at your own peril. It's an amazing moment but just right in the feels. And look, death is set. But at the end of the day, we all gotta go sometime. So it's about what you do with your life while you have it. Johnny Bauer lived the kind of life we should all hope to live. He's beloved by Leaf fans, but again, he was 93. His last season in the National Hockey League is when he played one game in the 1969-1970 season. For many of us, we're not even old enough to have seen Johnny Bauer play in our lifetime and for some of us, your parents aren't even old enough to have remembered seeing Johnny Bauer play. And yet, he's beloved. Of course, he was an incredible player, he

won two Vezina trophies and four Stanley Cups. But if we haven't seen him play other than short clips that you see every now and then, why is he so beloved? That's because fans didn't just love Johnny Bauer the player, they loved Johnny Bauer the person. You might have heard me joke in the past that Johnny Bauer has the most worthless autograph in hockey. That's not because he's not great or he's not important, it's because his His autograph isn't rare at all. Anyone who asked, he would sign. So many fans, young and old, have had the pleasure of seeing Johnny Bauer live in person

and sometimes even getting to meet him because he made himself so accessible to the public. Anytime you ask anybody, especially Leaf fans about Johnny Bauer, they won't give you this big extravagant story. Oh I remember when Johnny Bauer did this or Johnny Bauer said that. But again, everyone seems to love him. And anyone who's ever met him will just tell you the same thing. I met Johnny Bauer. He was so nice. Oh, he was always willing to give you some of his time Vesna trophy Stanley Cups Those things are amazing. But Johnny Bauer's true legacy in hockey and in the world is kindness

We should all do our best to live our life like Johnny Bauer lived his selfless generous gentle and kind So if you have a few spare moments look up some things about Johnny Bauer look up his numbers look up some footage Maybe look up some interviews and if life comes out you want a breakaway go for a diving poke check rest in peace Mr. Bauer. Our next piece of audio is from 2010. For some reason, Steve sent this to our group chat. I don't know where he found it, but it's of Steve doing a hit on Adam's first incarnation of his radio show on KISS 92.5. Steve was doing updates for the Vancouver 2010 Olympics, and he did a hit on Adam's show. And we have the audio, and it's magical. kiss 92.5 olympic update steve dangle of nike training.ca is the official kiss reporter at

the olympics and uh what what is that adam did they get the message uh loud enough for you i'm pretty sure they did that's unbelievable What a game. These fans are chomping at the bit for Russia. Canada maybe didn't get the ending that they want, allowing that late 2-on-0 goal. But for the most part, Roberto Luongo was amazing in net. The Sydney Crosby, Eric Stahl, again the line,

new for this game, but man, were they ever flicking. Iggy with two goals, Stahl feeding Crosby with a beautiful tip, and these guys cannot wait for a piece of old veteran in the Russians. So how does this set up Team Canada for tomorrow against the Russians? You know what? The Russians are an excellent team,

And to be quite frank, coming into the tournament, I thought Russia might have it. They played like garbage, and they're going to really have to bring it against Canada, and Canada's going to have to bring it right back. Does that mean, do you think we can take this? I'm thinking it's going to be one for the ages, and you know what? It's just a shame that it's the quarterfinal. Steve Dangle, the official KISS reporter from the games and of NikeTraining.ca, thank you. Thank you, Adam. We'll see you tomorrow against Russia.

Woo-hoo! and finally we have adam wilde wishing everyone a merry christmas and before you listen i just want to remind you that adam once called calves back shins yes he called calves back shins here is his christmas greeting hi this is adam wilde host of the steve nagle podcast with Steve Dangle and Adam Wild and also Jesse Blake. What you're about to listen to is a compilation of some of the worst stuff we did this year. I'm not even fully sure why you listened to it and I hope that your holiday season has been fantastic and not like a like a heavy backpack full of weights just driving you into the ground like you haven't scored in 20 games

or like you're carrying around a backpack full of actual weights and nobody's quite sure why you're doing it, but you don't want to take it off because you're weird. Anyway, enjoy. What happened to Mitch Marner? Last two games, he's been on absolute fire. And it seems like, wow, there's Mitch Marner from last year. Babcock nailed it.

Like an 800-pound gorilla came off his back with one goal. One goal, and it was like you couldn't friggin' stop him. And confidence is a very funny thing It's You know They talk about like Hard work and grit And heart

You know being the thing that like analytics Don't take into account You know there is Something to the idea that analytics Aren't everything Everyone who plays with them at all Knows that's true But

It's just confidence mentality like i don't even know exactly how to describe it it's it's not about how brave he is or how hard he works i mitch marner's probably been working harder over the last couple months than he has uh in his you know short pro career because he was just trying to get out of it um but it's it was just a mental weight you ever just have a mental weight sitting on your brain and it's like it's like walking around with a backpack full of weights uh on like it's you're trying to go about your daily life and it's just not just bugging you it's always there yeah it was great how you use uh a backpack full of weights for a mental as i said it i'm like i'm

an idiot i'm a moron that's gonna be my mental weight for the rest of the day i'm gonna be sitting on the Don Valley Parkway today going, backpack full of weight, Steve! Really? As soon as you said it, I was like... They gave you a show? Ah, Steve. It's a mental weight.

It's like a backpack full of weights. You friggin' dick. To be fair, they didn't give you a show. You gave it to yourself, so... Yeah, they would have never given you a show! Stupid idiot! Get in if you're gonna get in! But you got your signal on

I hate this Before we get to the next best of clip I mentioned in the previous episode In the last best of That I was wondering how it felt to be a Chicago Cubs fan And finally win the World Series And I actually received some responses

And one of the more impassioned ones Was Jeremy Bosco A listener who slid into my DMs And he wrote this He said, just listen to the new best of and being a diehard Cubs fan, I thought I'd share my experience of when they won the World Series.

The feeling when they finally did it was impossible to put into words. I'm 21 years old, so most of my life they have been pretty bad, except for 2003, which ended terribly. The Cubs have had a few major collapses in their history, with 1984 being a bad one. That collapse broke my dad's heart,

and he has always told stories about how good that team was and how painful it was when they blew it. I always thought I understood what he meant, but I realized I didn't until Rajah Davis hit that home run to tie Game 7. Jesse here now. Yeah, so Rajah Davis hit a home run for Cleveland to tie the game against the Cubs in the 2016 World Series.

Now back to Jeremy. While in absolute shock, my first thought in that moment was, oh my God, this is my 1984. four, this is what my dad was talking about. I feel like I became a true Cubs fan in that moment, as every adult Cubs fan had gone through heartbreak with the team, and I hadn't until that moment. Except this time, it didn't end there. They got the lead back, and when the game was over, I'm certain that the feelings and emotions I felt will never be matched for the rest of my life. Maybe the birth of my first child will match it. Yeah, Jeremy, I think it will.

I had trouble breathing, I couldn't speak, and the look in my dad's eyes was something I'll probably never see again. Wow, that gives me tingles. What I'll always remember was him saying that my grandpa can rest in peace now. My grandpa passed away in 1997. Even now, over one year later, it still doesn't feel real that they actually did it. I also received a response from Sarah, also on Twitter. She said, you asked what it was like for diehard Cubs fans when they won the World Series.

And she said, well, I almost had an asthma attack and I sat on the floor and cried for about 10 minutes. Here's a photo. She sent a nice photo. And she says, I imagine this will be Steve when the Leafs win. And I imagine it will be much longer than 10 minutes, probably 10 years of crying in hyperventilation.

Our next best of clip was requested by Fayaz. I hope I'm saying that correctly. He wrote on Twitter, he said, Please put on House Party Bros in part two of The Best Of. I know it's not hockey-related, but it's so funny, and I agree with you. And most of what we do is not hockey-related, Fayaz, so no problem. Here it is. So I guess there's a problem, Steve, in Beverly Hills.

And you're going to have to put on your headphones for this one because we've got the new audio system in. Are people floating around the world? So there is a problem in Beverly Hills with partying, and Los Angeles City Council is trying to crack down on partying in Beverly Hills. I don't get it I know right there's just these

enormous houses and they're having enormous house parties and neighbors are complaining and the LA City Council says we can't condone this

we must crack down we must be harder on the house parties in Beverly Hills so instead of you know focusing on

the real shit that's happening in LA let's focus on the house parties you know how you know life is good your number one

problem is too much partying well maybe they're just ignoring the problems that are already there or maybe they're just dicks. Could be that too.

Now, you said to Jess? I did. Okay. So, they're debating this at city council, and a couple of party bros got in there to protest, because they wanted to let everybody know. Did they help? They helped. They wanted to let everybody know just

how much house partying meant to them. Jesse, you got your headphones? Alright, now everybody make sure your volume isn't up too loud, because this is sort of a loud clip. Ooh, I can, oh, I hear me too. Yeah, right? This is neat. yourself what up council my name is chad kroger um i'm an activist and house party enthusiast obviously can you you gotta let the clip play though man you gotta listen my girlfriend avril

oh my god okay what up council my name is chad kroger um i'm an activist and house party enthusiast over the past week i've been in a state of deep despair upon hearing the news that la is trying to outlaw house parties in the hollywood hills i am here determined to stop this future atrocity house parties were the bedrock of my development as a young man and saying here i'll pull it back here we go parties were the bedrock he sounds like dave chapelle's character lyle hi everyone i'm lyle i'm here in the streets of new york he sounds a little like that he sounds a little more like just like sean penn in fast times at richmond high i think that's kind of what he is that's la you ready la is like four syllables to house parties were the bedrock of

my development as a young man in san clemente my first introduction to manhood came when the captain of my water polo team boomer kingsley asked me to shotgun a tall can of bud light in front of the whole squad at his end of the season bash his parents were in tahoe at the time so we tore that weekend up it was epic and i was super stoked my newfound confidence gave me the courage to ask out the most popular girl in school lauren stockholder to prom that year she rejected me and i had to go with stacy mcmillan but i didn't care because i was so amped on chugging with my boys that's what house parties do raging at house parties is the truth He got 90 seconds

Way to go Chad Okay here If I was the judge Here's where I would have cut it off Can you do it at the beginning You want me to play the whole damn clip again No no no I'm telling you Here's where I would have cut it off

I'm an activist and house party enthusiast That's not far back enough Identify yourself What up counsel my name is Chad Kroger What up counsel enough get out of my courtroom Get out of my courtroom What up, council? Get out!

He's not the only one. He's not? There's a follow-up. See, that's the only one I've seen. Well, no, there's another one. There's a second guy. I need this. Aging at house parties is the true...

Is it Boomer? Is Boomer the other guy? Next speaker, please come and identify yourself. It definitely should have been Anders. Okay, you're never going to hear this. I'm sorry. I know you want to make jokes and stuff, but you got to hear it. You got to hear it.

You know what's funnier than this clip? I'm trying to get you to get through the clip. No You're missing all the jokes man Running around the house and you're gonna have to fiddle with them as you get their winter boots on and shove their reluctant arms through a winter jacket and you're gonna be like I'm prepared for the scenario see because I got Steve back on Rock here all those years you and Caprice are essentially the same are we impossible children Adam? We can't

I cannot get either of you To pay attention to anything For very long And like For last night I put on South Park You know On the Crave app

And I put it on I've never heard of it Oh never heard of that On the On the streamings On Show Me On the Show Me app Oh I read about that

In ELA So anyway ELA Anyway I I have I put South Park on And she's like

Oh great I'm like I'm gonna play for you Some of the classic Christmas episodes I grew up with Cause some of them Were so great

So Woodland Critter Christmas Which is one of the funny, have you ever seen that? Oh my god, it's the best thing ever. We watched the original Mr. Hankey, which, by the way, is so funny. Like, go back and watch the first Christmas episode. It's fucking hilarious.

But I made Caprice put her phone down. I'm like, you are not, you are not putting, looking at your phone for this because you'll not get, you won't get it. And there's great shows that we watch but because she keeps searching Instagram for some reason, she goes, oh, I didn't even like that show. I don't even get it. I'm like, because you were watching the show. So it's like,

I deal with this all the time And Jesse When I play Jesse a funny clip He sits there And he listens And then he laughs And he doesn't say anything He listens and he laughs

Jesse's my piece Is what I'm saying Jesse keeps me grounded I can watch things For two minutes I have difficulty I got through The Force Awakens

On Saturday Because I had Most of Jesse's Bottle of wine There you go See but I don't I don't even know about that

It's performance enhancing That's right That's true. Can you do it sober? I don't know if wine drunk is the way to do The Force Awakens. I don't know that it's not. You know what? The one study I did proved that it was, so...

I don't know. Maybe you guys are onto something. All right. Here we go with the second row. All right, for that ten-minute detour from this two-minute clip. Yeah, no, my God. Oh, my God. It just makes me sad when I know something's hilarious, and then no one listens to it.

I'm like, listen! Okay. You know what you need to do to get my attention? every time i do this just go like this just do the impossible kid thing just slide under your chair all right all right i gotta get bruises i'm gonna have to do that all the time you should do that no i think it's bad for my health as i was doing it i'm like second guy what up council my name is jt parr i am also here to defend parties in the hollywood hills i grew up like most kids worried i couldn't bench two plates that i wouldn't fit in that i

wouldn't find love then I discovered partying and suddenly all those worries went to the wayside I didn't need love I had keg stands I discovered I was great at raging and it revealed wonderful things about myself I could relate to bros regardless of what kind of bro they were I could be at a party and moon people and everyone would laugh you know be witty or I could play beer pong and compete with real integrity in short I fulfilled my potential If you outlaw house parties, you may keep the volume down, but an externality is that you may keep people from bonding. America needs bonding.

People need to put aside their differences and find common joy. There's no more effective environment for that than a freaking rager. This is the best example of finding me and Chad's relationship. We were star-crossed. He a surfer, me a body boy. Thank you. Thank you. And I want to welcome you to L.A. Council's Bill and Ted's

excellent uh adventure identify dude really good right please play just the first five seconds again that was a such an unexpected line and so identify yourself what up council my name is jt parr i am also here to defend parties in the hollywood hills i grew up like most kids worried i couldn't bench two plates that i wouldn't fit in that i wouldn't find love then i discovered partying, and suddenly all those worries went to the wayside. All I needed was bench two plates. That's a good line, eh? Like most kids.

Now, is he talking about benching two plates on either side? Yeah, yo. You can't bench two plates? I can't. No, no, I can. I was like, Jesus, you can? No. No, look at me. I can do more than a plate on each side. I don't know. I don't do my

max, because doing your max is a good way to hurt yourself. Yes. It's dumb. Yep. One rep and then you're done? Don't even get me started. Yeah, great workout. No, do three, four sets of ten. The guy I work out with was easy.

Or don't do that, you know? Just do what you want for your life. The gym is a great way to bond with your bros. The guy I work out with? I bond with my bros Adam, Adam, and Jesse, and Chad, and Boomer. I'm just so happy that we can all be party enthusiasts and have a great time as bros. I don't know where I would be without keg stamps That's how we bonded for the first time

That's true America needs bonding He said frickin' in court On the mic Frickin' rager Frickin' rager If you didn't know that we have a Reddit page We have a Reddit page

It's rstevedangle And Coltron57 wrote underneath the thread Possible clips for Thursday show Diamondbacks will be on there, I'd imagine And guess what, Coltron? You imagined correctly, because this next clip is exactly that. Jim Diamond, he'll get you. I guess it was after the whole Spectre Bourne thing.

We're going, oh, the PHWA can dish it out, but they can't take it. And all this stuff. And I'm like, wait, again, again. Mark Spectre does not represent that whole organization. No, and you know how many people are in the PHWA? Yeah, there's a lot. It's crazy. There's a lot of people.

A lot of people. And again, what does this have to do with Nashville? If it was a Nashville writer that went after Bourne, yeah, that would make sense. If Jim Diamond was like, yeah, Justin Bourne, well, your backhand sucks. No match for my backhands. I call it the Diamondback because it'll get you. The Diamondback. Because it'll get you

Yeah No one is a match For Jim Diamondback Diamond Why did I make him Into like Jake the Snake I don't know I don't know why The Diamondback will get you

It will get you I don't know why Get it because it's like a snake or something Or is it a spider I don't think a Diamondback is a thing I think the Arizona Diamondbacks it's gotta mean something it's not the back

of a diamond I don't think to all the writers to all the writers who do listen to this show let me just say this we love you we know you guys

I'm kidding yeah no it's a fucking hard gig and I have all the respect in the world for people who do it

how many of them right now are going I'm not gonna take shit from some asshole who works from home in his pajamas well that's fine whatever listen

in his empire of toys a diamond back Is it a snake? It's a rattlesnake Yeah It'll get ya It'll get ya

The Jim Diamondback Diamondbackhander Okay, yeah The Diamondbackhander Yes, I'm in back Alright It'll get ya No, if he had said it Can we sell t-shirts that say

The Diamondback Yeah And give him not a bullet Jesus, thank God None The Diamondback will get ya And put Jim's face on it But just like cartoonize a little bit

Yeah And copyright, it's fine. And then they'll have socks. Diamond back socks. Diamond back socks. Back socks. We'll just call them back socks. Same.

All right, so diamond back socks coming next Christmas. If he had said something, it would have been. No, we'll rush order those right now. The people shall have their diamond back socks. They'll get you. They'll get you.

Oh, go, go, Don't get them before they get you. Backsocks. Diamond backsocks. Diamond backsocks. Yeah, but once they're popular enough, people will shorten it to backsocks. But the full official name is Jim Diamond Backsocks. Yes.

Like a great 90s skating rink DJ, we're taking requests all night. And this next one is for Lucas, who tweeted me and asked for the clip of us explaining that Conor McDavid will spend his 21st birthday in Las Vegas. Now, this clip originally appeared on our YouTube channel. The profile is YouTube.com. I think it's just slash Steve Dangle podcast, where you can watch the podcast if you weren't aware, and you could watch this clip as well.

Conor McDavid spending his 21st birthday in Vegas. Fun fact pointed out on our Reddit regarding Vegas. On January 13th The Oilers play Vegas Okay January 13th is Connor McDavid's 21st birthday Oh What is the Oilers next game?

I can check But um Slam dunk victory That's scheduling on purpose Yeah Right? Well like Leafs on New Year's Eve Yeah

Again There's the NHL or Vegas or both going People from Toronto Will spend money on this Hmm Who is most likely To fly to Leaf fans

Leaf fans Every time Easily So Give us money idiot So January 13th A Saturday Edmonton plays Vegas

On Connor McDavid's 21st birthday They don't play again For another week That's not fair That's hilarious That's not fair That's hilarious

I guess they know He's gonna be really hungover They gave him a week off They play Vancouver next Saturday Man That's good Wow That's actually insane

He had a full six days off That's hilarious Oh I'm staying a couple days in Vegas then A little bit 21st birthday A little bit Millionaire hockey player Now

If the Oilers don't get back on track Is that going to be McDavid's They went on a fishing trip How could they Remember that The last goal he ever scored Won Edmonton the game against Vegas Dent

As I was saying that, I'm like, that's like the song. No, but remember the Leafs scandal last year with the fishing trip? Oh, yes, in Florida. Yep. Yeah. And a couple years ago, when they were losing all these games, they posted a video of them at Disney World. And everyone went, what?

Or Disneyland. Heavens, I'm sorry. Does anybody get in trouble this year? Partying in Vegas? Do you think a story comes out? Ooh. And if that happens. It doesn't come out.

It doesn't come out. No? I'm sure they do get in trouble. I don't think a story comes out. No. They want to get away from that reputation. The NHL wouldn't want that coming out. That would be a private matter.

Also, I feel like in Vegas, no one cares who you are. No, they don't. Just if you're being a dick, get out. Get out. Oh, you're just one of a thousand people acting like a drunk idiot. It's, it's, stories always break. It's like, oh, they were at a bar in Edmonton. Chattanooga.

Yeah, they were at a, yeah. Yeah, because they got sent to the AHL or something. ECHL. Where is Chattanooga? Chattanooga in the... I haven't heard of Chattanooga since Bugs Bunny cartoons. Is it not in New York State? Sure.

I believe you. I believe you if you told me it was in Arizona. But no, it's always in somewhere a little more nondescript. The last story I can read... Chattanooga, Tennessee. My bad. There you go. I heard a rumor of an unnamed NHL player getting into a potential police altercation in Calgary.

That's one I heard. The last Leaf-related one I can think of was in L.A., Mike Homesseric. Oh. There was that weird little awkward story. What happened? I'm trying to remember exactly what happened. I think he dropped somebody or maybe picked someone up

who didn't want to be picked up allegedly. It was messy. Claude Drew, when he got in trouble. He punched a cop? Something like that. That was in Ottawa.

So like, you know, all this stuff about all Vegas. Things are going to get crazy in Vegas. It's almost like they do it,

like it is the professional party town. They have it down to a science. They're better at security. They're better at it. They're better at it. So I kind of feel like in terms of trouble, there might actually be less in VIX. Does that make sense?

Yep. No, it does. Apparently, I'm really bad at my job because I thought I had covered all the absolutely hilarious things in the first best of. And when I asked for requests, I thought I wasn't going to get anything. But here again, we have another request from Ainsley this time on Twitter who said, I think steve's reaction to the ruptured testicle would be great to add for the next best of and i was like holy shit how did i forget that so here's that clip it is so freaking funny a couple things

i want to read from our reddit page because our reddit page was amazing after last episode we got we've had 53 comments so far on heinous sports injuries i read a couple i'm gonna read a couple Okay, hey Couple people asked for a warning Here's your warning There I don't know, because we got gross last show So me setting it up wasn't the warning?

People need to be hammered on the head I'm sorry that I had all the right intentions In the world and fucked up anyway I'm sorry I'm sorry the story of my life just happened again Had the option This is from Lost Loyalty Who's clearly not loyal

I had the option of going to the school dance Or hockey practice in the 9th grade Since I was afraid to talk to girls I decided to go to practice Our coach couldn't make it that night So my dad ran the practice And decided the team needed to run through some hitting drills First run though

I was distracted by something Probably girls because I was 14 And got absolutely leveled by my teammate I looked down at my arm and it was literally bent in half And shortly after That's your elbow And shortly after I took a 45 minute ambulance ride Into the city to go to the hospital

Broken in three places and I had nerve damage For many years to follow Nerve damage is crazy You can't feel stuff I should have listened to Don sharing Kept my head up Also asking girls to the dance didn't seem so scary after that Sometimes you gotta learn your lesson the hard way

Yeah well you probably asked a bunch of them to sign your cast What you should have looked at Is like this You go to the school dance and you ask somebody to dance guy or girl the worst they can say is no that's when my fear

goes away it's like oh yeah it's the worst they can do I wish you would talk to me in grade 6 my first ever dance I didn't ask anyone

to dance I was too scared that's okay man but then you realized you figured it out hockey the worst thing

that can happen to you is heinous injury broken in three places nerve damage for years to come so you gotta take the lesser of two evils on that one I think

I didn't read that one that's gross I got another one do you have the the rugby the war vet no I don't have that one Hang on, I'll find him

Here's a good one Archduke of Squirrels Ruptured my left testicle playing rugby in high school Tackled a guy I was actually paralyzed for a minute there I couldn't talk Tackled a guy, got stepped on When the ruck formed over top

Played another few minutes before asking for a sub Went to the ER Where they said it would be fine After a bit It later swelled up to the size of my fist and I had surgery to fix it a week later. Stop the ride! This is my favorite line. He goes out with a bang on this story.

How could he possibly? It gets better. It gets better. Still a little lumpy, but I'm told it's functional. What a great line. Still a little lumpy. He's got cleat marks in his testicle. That's insane.

So the guy who stepped on him Yeah I don't want to They buy I don't want to blow it all up today So maybe we'll read a few more next episode But damn Right?

Yeah we couldn't possibly I was like hey what about this one No we can't read that one Cause you We've just topped it Wow Wow Was not ready for that

Um Hey You ever play NHL? As a Be a GM mode? Yeah Yeah. It's my favorite.

Sometimes players are out for a very long time. What are some of the injuries you've seen your players get? In NHL 2000, Alex Selivanov had a sports hernia, and he was out three to four months. Wow. Because he had div. Yeah. He was my fourth line right winger. I saw a player, I swear to God, and I wish I knew how to screen cap back then.

In NHL 2001, they were sidelined with a ruptured testicle. No. I swear to God. I swear We gotta look that up What smartass Wrote that into the game Was it EA?

Yeah We should talk I think it was NHL 2001 Talk to Rammer Well that might be Sean Ramjessi No but he'd be able to go back Is that pre-Rammer?

He would be Yeah of course it is But he would be able to go back And see if that's actually Truly the case I swear I swear I'm sure Rammer could find

Well Here's how I would justify it If I was them It's an injury that has been Suffered on an NHL playing service Well I don't think you have to justify it Why wouldn't you justify it? I don't know

No, but like, oh, why'd you have to put the... Well, happened to my character. It's supposed to be realistic. I got your raptor testicle answer. In NHL 2001, this is a wiki article. This is a walkthrough slash frequently asked questions article from 2001 on IGN. Oh, my God. Someone listed all of the possible injuries in the game.

And one of them, let me just find it where it is. One of them is zero to one weeks. You can be out with a ruptured testicle. Zero to one weeks, my ass. If I rupture a testicle, I might retire. Zero to one lifetimes. Oh, yeah. How much do you like hockey?

I don't know if I like anything that much. You can also be out with a scrotal contusion for zero to one. Goddamn! That sounds awful. So, yeah, you did not make that up. That happened in your game in NHL 2001. And I remember seeing it, and I was home alone. And I remember I just wanted to be like, why is no one here to share this experience with me?

Jesse, you have mad research skills, by the way. That was quick. Ronan Murphy. Ronan. Their username was AlaskaFox, and they created this on April 14, 2001. Shout out. Hopefully you're doing something cool with your life. Imagine how long it would have taken to create that back then.

Oh, my God. I'm talking about that side. I was just typing into a Word document. No, but I'm just talking. But, like, you know, you probably had to dial up the internet. You know what I mean Wait for it to load Find a server

Like it's not like GoDaddy existed right How many times Did he try to post that When someone answered The phone Nobody fucking called me Mom

I'm writing about That was painful Scandal contusions On NHL 2001 Yes Owen Nolan's on the cover Here's something else I forgot that happened

Until I was going back And researching For this best of Bar down with Adam Gongjo It was the title of our October 12th episode. And in this next clip that you're about to hear, you'll hear a little bit of life advice from Adam and Steve. Adam's deep old man wisdom that he has at the ripe age of 29. That'll come out.

But in the middle of it, you'll hear the hilarious scenario of Adam's reacting Leafs fan channel. Bar down with Adam Gong Show. The last topic That we have on the docket Which is weird Because we normally Takes us a little bit longer To get through all the stuff

That we wanted to get through Stendo press conference Is Our buddy Dark Guy Got himself a show Yes he did It's a radio show Congratulations

Jason Maslaco Congratulations Jason What is Jason Maslaco Maslaco Now you know why He goes by Dark Guy Or on Twitter

Maz No Congratulations to him And I genuinely mean that Uh, TSN, not allowed to talk about them, but, uh, no, I'm going to, because I want to congratulate him. And also I saw some people angry that he got a show and there's a term called mad online. And I think these people are good people.

They're just being mad online for no good reason. um it's it was really interesting seeing the people who negatively received dark guy getting a show because i've been on both sides of the criticism i've a lot of people don't think you deserve a show a lot of people don't think i deserve a show a lot of people don't think i deserve to be on sportsnet on their website have my own podcast etc etc uh so i understand you know Who the hell is this guy he just yells and he's some weird he's some Leafs weirdo That's what me and dark. I have in common. We're the freak in the room, so I get that Then I also understand the

Mostly 20 somethings coming out and going I busted my ass doing this I busted my ass doing that and this friggin guy gets a show I I know because I've been down that road. Oh, look at this guy's got a show. This show's freaking stank, so I could do a better show than that. Oh, look at this. Oh, man, our podcast that we've been doing for six months,

we're way better than half of the stuff on the air, on TSN, on Sportsnet, on everything. Like, when I was an intern, I was a full-time media critic. Oh! Oh, did I know everything when I was 19? Oh, was I so smart? If you made me the program director of The Fan when I was 19. In 2007. All around.

Yes, we would have been extremely successful. I don't know. I just, I know I get the frustration from some of you, the bitterness. Like, the reason I'm talking about that isn't just to go to bat for Dark Eye. It's, I, it's so familiar. The things you're saying are so familiar. And I've been down that road, and I've said those things, and I've felt that way. And you know where it got me?

Nowhere. It was a waste of valuable time. What are you getting out of this? Like, answer that. Just making yourself more angry. Making yourself more angry. What are you, impressing your friends with your little dart guy dart? Like, what are you, cute?

What are you accomplishing here? What are you putting into the world? Is it anything positive after I just yelled and screamed? How about Gary Bettman? Are you happy with your Gary Bettman dart? Yeah, I am. No, but it's just, he's taking an opportunity that you would never turn down. Never turn down. Trust me, if he was a jerk, his little 15 minutes would have ended a very long time ago. People were waiting for something to come out about this guy. Like what was the guy at the presidential debate With the red sweater

Ken Bone Ken Bone's reddit account We have not found Dark Eye's reddit account He's not Dark Eye is not Milkshake Duck No Some people were saying that because of I think he said something about kneeling

And yeah I disagree with him But that has nothing to do With him getting a show And it has nothing to do with the content of his character No, and I assume it's going to be sponsored, it's going to be profitable, and it's not even the best time slot. I would question how many of the people criticizing him are listeners of that time slot on TSN. Can I just be straight with you?

Let the guy have a show. Can I be straight with you? Let the guy have a show and let it be a neat story that he has a show, man. I think he'll, I don't know. And if he doesn't do a good job, what are they going to do, keep it afloat? No, it's going to be like any other show on the air. It sinks or swims. If our podcast is shit and our listenership goes down, we become a lot less appealing.

It's in radio, TV, online, podcast, doesn't matter, sink or swim. Yes, Adam. I want to tell you that this almost ruined my morning. It did. I saw how mad he was. I was so angry coming in. And if I shared my honest to God thoughts with you, which I won't, there would be many, many who disagree.

You should try getting a YouTube channel where you just scream. I'm sure it's cathartic. It's so good for you, I think. Yeah. You know what? You should review every Leafs game. You should. I think after every Leafs game, you should record a video.

What would we call it, though? Because I'm a Leafs fan. So what am I doing after the game? Reacting Leafs fan. So R-L-F. There you go. Yeah, R-L-F. R-L-F.

R-L-F. It rolls off the tongue Adam Wilde's channel And you know what's cool I have a dog So I can incorporate her into some of the videos But you can't be Adam Wilde No

I need a hockey name I think it would be like a Deke Adam Snipe show Adam Deke Adam Garn show And we'll call it Gong Show Hockey Like that hasn't been taken That'd be great

We'll call it Bar Down With Adam Gong Show We'll call it Bar Down With Adam Gong Show The RLF It's so stupid I would watch those This is worse than the Sabres

So dumb I'm not proud No, I'm just... Oh, sorry. No, you were talking. You're the one who was talking. No, listen. We're here for you.

Could Bar Down with Adam Johnstone be the title of the episode? Please, please let it be. Bar Down? Yes. No, no, you can't throw Bar Down on Sportsnet. Try it. Why not? How about Adam Johnstone?

Bar Down is a saying. It's not an outlet, okay? You can't just call... That's a saying. My outlet's called The. Well, sorry. Sorry asshole, we all have to use that word We'll make it Bar Down with Adam Gong Show

Until I'm told otherwise It's time to go Bar Down with Adam Gong Show On the RLS Reactingly spent here I am reactive I feel very reactive Hey bros

Here's Bar Down with Adam Gong Show Jake Gardner fell down yesterday Hey, I guess you could say he has wheeling problems. Anyway. Yeah, it almost ruined your morning. It did. It did. The whole thing.

Adam was so angry. I didn't even know there was a negative reaction to this. Because I honestly didn't think people, like, I thought people would be like, oh, good for you. Because that was my reaction. Some were. I think most were. And some were indifferent.

And that's fine, too. Yeah, I was definitely indifferent. Let me tell you something about radio programming, kids. Three to five on a Saturday afternoon, unless there's playoff baseball on, is a dead zone. So. Yeah. It makes programming sense. It's a great developmental time slot to be in, just like we were in overnights.

Yeah. I started my career in overnights. What are we going to do, knock Jeff Blair out? No. No! We're going to... That's when we should be on, is overnight. Boss Dave, here at Sportsnet 590, is going to go,

well, I'll put those guys on super late and let them develop. Kind of like putting us in the AHL. Yes. Right? Yeah. And he's going to be surrounded by radio talent. Yes. So, they're acting like it's just going to be him in the studio and it's just a scream.

Yeah. I, it did. It almost did. I was very disappointed. And I am not, and I don't say that often. Like, sometimes I'll say I'm mad. But I was disappointed. Like, it was, it hurt.

Because, and again, I won't get into this. But, I expect more. Oh, there it is. I expect more. And, um, I will say this, you will free yourself when you accept that the world is not fair. Yes. You will be free to find your potential. Now, is it incumbent on you to try to make the world more fair?

Yes. But also accept that there are going to be instances. Yeah. I can't tell you how many times in my career I've had instances where I was like, I thought I should have that job and I didn't get it. Devastating moments. However, I kept working. Now that you have had a chance to look back

a little bit, how many of the times where you thought you should have a job and didn't get it, do you now look back and go, oh yeah, no, I shouldn't have got that. That was right. Every time. Yeah, for me, almost every time. Actually, you know what? There is one. No. There's one. There's one I still believe. Where you were like, damn it? Damn it! Yeah, but I let it go.

But you know what? The best part about that is it opened up other doors. I wouldn't be doing this show No one's making you do anything I wouldn't go with the life's not fair I would go Well life isn't fair Regardless of the subject matter

Dispute me with it or not It's not I would just say Oh shoot where was I going with that Oh no one's making you do anything So if you see an opportunity That you would like and you don't get it Your options are quit

Or keep going until you get it That's it Yep. Two, binary. Those are your two options. I don't know. I wish him the best of luck. And I wish him the best of luck.

I'm happy for him. And I hope his show is like any other show. It sinks or swims. Like any show. Any show. I'm happy for him. There it is. I'm happy for him.

That's all. All right. Our final clip in today's best of is the biggest throwback Thursday we could have. It's the first ever episode of the Steve Dangle podcast. It happened on May 30th, 2013. The title of the episode was appropriately Episode 1. And Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde were in, I believe, Adam's basement, quite literally in his mother's basement, starting their little podcast.

I didn't even exist at this point, as you'll hear. I don't know how long you've been listening, but you probably haven't been listening since day one. And if you have, definitely tweet us. Tweet me, Steve and Adam. Let us know if you're a day one and you've heard this before. But if you want to sit through it, here's the first ever episode of the SDP. Enjoy.

I'll see you next week. Okay, so welcome to something brand new. It's called the Steve Dangle Podcast. My name is Adam Wilde, obviously not the guy on the show. And across from me is the guy whose wedding I'm going to crash next summer. Oh, my goodness. Isn't that scary? Steve Dangle.

Hello. So we're going to start this podcast and see where it goes. Actually, we're going to start this podcast with a scary piece of information. I went and I picked our suits. You already picked our suits? Yeah. Yeah. Well, you've got to get fitted for them and everything, and you've got to do your own

little customizations, but I know what the accessory color is going to be. Okay. So, okay, black pants, jacket. That's nothing weird there, but the rest... Is this supposed to be a surprise then? No, it's got to match what the fiancé wants. Which is what? Purple.

Oh, I'm down with that. I'm all about purple. I know there's certain people in the wedding party, of which I am a part of, that will not be comfortable with it. No. Well, it's not bright, arrogant purple like Barney the Dinosaur. It's plum, actually. It's plum.

Actually, that's good. No longer a man. Like a royal old purple. That's all right. I'm okay with that. All right. Sports! Hockey!

Men! Let's go do some push-ups, and let's talk about the Chicago Blackhawks and the Detroit Red Wings. The Blackhawks taking an overtime 2-1, and besides the fact that it's a Game 7 that goes to overtime, besides the fact that you've got two original six franchises, besides all the drama and the great history of both teams and how well they've done recently, there's some controversy. And now, everybody's talking about that Detroit goal. Hawks goal.

Hawks goal, I mean. Sorry. Was it a goal? Well, Detroit got the call. Right. Sorry, I can't speak properly, but that's okay. I haven't had time to really go into... Because I've seen some people go, now, now, wait a minute. Maybe that was the right call from Stephen Walken. I've only seen the goal a handful of times.

I don't understand how it's not a goal. Okay. So take us through it. If anybody who hasn't seen it, kind of describe what happened. Well, two players got tied up behind the play. and as the Hawks took a shot, put the puck in the net, the whistle blows, and I guess you couldn't hear it over the roar of the United Center, right?

Very loud. The dying moments of a Game 7 that's tied. The goal was called back, and everyone lost their minds. Should there have been a whistle, though? Was it a quick whistle? Was it one of those? Because there's some weird short whistles, I guess they call them. League saying yes?

Well, yeah, and they support, it's referee Walkham, I guess his name is? Stephen Walkham. Stephen Walkham. And he's been pretty solid. He's usually the guy in the playoffs. They handpicked him for that series because he's so experienced. So when you look at it yourself, was the whistle unfair? Was there anything about the timing of that whistle that, you know,

did the goalie, did he really have it? Here's what I know about refs. Okay. All right. I had the pleasure of being the rink announcer, like announcing goals and stuff at one of the, what was it called? The research and development camps for the NHL. So they bring all the rookies and top prospects or whatever for the next year's draft, like the summer before they're drafted, to the MasterCard Center in Etobicoke, the Leafs practice facility.

And they have them play scrimmage and all that stuff. And they test out a bunch of new rules and stuff. So that's hard on the players, but it's extra hard on the refs because they have a hard enough time with the rules that are already in place. Sure, yeah. So now they have the new rules, and what would happen is, so I'm sitting in the box, right, and a play would happen, and they'd all skate and converge right in front of me, the refs,

and very confidently and dead-faced. I would love to see what it looked like from the stands, but they were all just like, okay, what was that? How did you see that? I don't know. Was that the right call? You think that was the right call? I thought that was the right call.

Okay, good. And they would skate off. Really? Oh, yeah. So these guys, I would love to know the difference between a really, really good ref and a really, really bad one. Me too. You never hear refs talk about each other. No.

And it's so funny because you know how when you buy an NHL game, like, you know, whatever, they've got a rating. Players have a rating out of 100. But wouldn't it be interesting if the refs in the game, that particular game, had a rating out of 102 and it threw the games for you or something like that? The NHL games need to have a mode where you can have a third buddy be the ref, like in the old WWF games. That's a great idea. That's not offside. Why do they not do that? That would be amazing online.

Take it. Take the idea right there. Sean. Wow. I know the guy. Sean Ramjagsing, I think is his name. Okay. He's one of the developers for NHL.

Okay. We need to send this to him We need to send him this podcast We need to So when you have those referees At that school and that type of thing And that's how they kind of come up with What's going on

Is this one of those things you think they'll test out this summer? Then? There's a problem here Because this has happened more than once This is something that's happened There was a couple in the Leafs series Leafs Bruins series There was a couple kind of short whistles

and that sort of thing, and they seem to be, especially with whistles, they seem to be a little bit, I don't know what the right word is, but there seems to be a not definitive answer on when the ref should blow the call. It's, I mean, fastest game on earth, and it comes at a price. They're going to miss some stuff, and they're going to misinterpret some stuff, and maybe they're so good at it that we don't see it. But what I do like, though, is that the NHL released a statement definitively saying, no, this guy was right.

Why do you like that? I like that because I believe them, that they think that. Because last year, Marlies, American Hockey League Finals, Game 3. So the Marlies are down 2-0, but Game 3 is in overtime. If they win this, it's 2-1. That's a series. You know, you're in it. 3-0, you're screwed.

there was a play in overtime and it's impossible to describe over radio i guess but um we'll try it's difficult mike costco who was on the leafs this year was on the norfolk admirals and he fired a puck in that took a weird bounce off the glass and beat ben scrivens while he was out of his net to play the puck it was one of those weird bounces so it was a that in itself made it a one and a million goal but it was offside it was technically offside but the weirdness of the play no one caught it okay and the next day the ahl released a statement saying that was the wrong call it should have been called offside interesting and it's like well then you can replay the overtime yeah replay the overtime yeah well i've always wondered that too when they apologize for

things because the nhl has apologized before uh yeah rarely no yeah very very rarely very not And other leagues have too And you almost kind of wonder Shouldn't you replay it then But you can't do that But you can't So I like that they at least said No that was the right call

And Hawks won the game so no harm no foul Admittedly I wasn't watching the game very closely And the second that call happened I'm like I want to see Detroit score in overtime Just to watch Chicago Ripe about it Gary Frazier goes I'm off the hook

And I hate to make this bloody comparison because as a Leaf fan, and I am a Leaf fan, and I'm not going to hide that, even though we're doing a sports podcast, the only thing that you hear about is that bloody 1993 missed high stick, Kerry Frazier, Wayne Gretzky, Doug Gilmore, and you're like, come on.

Literally bloody. Yes. Yeah, I just... Now, is it time, and don't hate me for asking this question, is it time for a coach's challenge in the NHL? I hate you. No, I'm kidding.

Yeah, absolutely. Not that that would have applied last night changed anything. Well, no, but do it like the NFL does. You get one a game, or whatever it is. Because people talk about slowing down the pace of the game. One whistle? Really? Yeah.

In a league where the LA Kings exist? Yeah. Or when the linesman won't drop a puck anymore. Oh my god! Yeah, okay. How about coach's challenge and the ref can only throw you out of five face-offs a night? There you go!

I like that! See, as a fan, I like that. There you go. Maybe it's like fouls. Maybe each team gets five throwouts or whatever. Yeah, five throwouts and they boot them from the game. And in the third period, you just see them both two-hand slash at the puck. Just not even care what's going on.

We're reinventing the game on this podcast, folks. You know what, guys like Randy Carlisle, the throwout rule would become a part of the strategy. Frazier McLaren now leads the league in face-off percentage. He just goes in and pops the guy like it's a rugby scrum. Yeah. Oh, I love it. You see, folks, that's a thing that happens in rugby. I played the sport in high school.

It wasn't very good. I believe our high school team got creamed. I think I only showed up to practices, and I always forgot about the games, and I just wouldn't show up. Worst teammate ever. I think our team was like... By the way, if you don't know, Steve and I went to high school together. I think our team was like 1-15 while I was on it.

The fact that you won a game is impressive. I know. That's over two years. And then the next year, they were really, really good. and I wasn't on the team. Well, you know what? Sometimes... I was a prop.

That's not good when I'm a prop. Sometimes a system takes time to develop. Yeah. And you were part of the development of what became a fantastic system. I helped groom the kids. Exactly. I'm the Jamal Mayers of this operation.

I didn't get any credit for the success of the Leafs. I was the Jamal Mayers of Saral of Ramon. There you go. I don't think Jamal Mayers wants that kind of comparison made to you. But now he's on the Hawks, and he's good. Yeah, he is. He really is. Oh, my God.

It was the Jamal Mayers of Mowat Rugby. Shout out to Scarborough, by the way. Okay, so Hawks and Kings. In the conference finals, you've got two teams that have won the Stanley Cup recently. Actually, all four teams have. The last four Cup winners are the last four teams remaining. Which, by the way, speaks to all their systems. When was the last time that happened?

If it's ever happened before... Once? Okay, we're getting a... Our producer, Chris, is saying one time. When was that? Okay, Google that for us if you don't mind. This is great. This is why we have a producer.

Our producer slash Twitterer. Yeah. So while Chris is going in that, let's talk about the Kings and Hawks. Because the Kings had kind of a slow start to the season. The Hawks had an amazing start to the season. Yeah. And now they've both kind of converged, and they both seem to be... Because the Hawks slowed down a little bit, and the Kings definitely heated up.

They seem to be both playing at a very high level right now. But the Hawks seem like the sloppier ones. Slightly. Because, well... Maybe Detroit made them look sloppy? The sloppier ones that have won three straight games. You know? Okay.

The last time the four previous Stanley Cup winners were in the final four teams in the playoffs was 1945. Wow, when it was the original six. Let's check the ticker on Twitter. Wow. And there were only six teams in the NHL, so... So that would have been easy to pull off at that point. There are now five times as many teams. Holy smokes.

That's insane. That's a crazy stat. That's one of those stats that would drive Mr. Sutter absolutely nuts. Oh, my God. The last time was like Normandy. Yeah, literally. No, but seriously. Holy smokes.

Like V-Day. Yeah. Straight up. Oh, my God. Okay, so let's talk about the Kings and Hawks, though. You think that the Hawks maybe have the momentum going in this series? Not necessarily. What I really like about this series and the Final Four, this series in particular, I guess,

is they are in a league with 82 games a season, such a long playoffs, so many teams. It's hard to get a dynasty going, and it's hard to get—it's hard to really look immortal. Oh, yeah, absolutely. But last year's playoffs, especially at the beginning of it, the Kings looked immortal. You could not beat them. then at the beginning of this season the hawks win 20 something games in a row immortal you can't beat them this unbeatable squad and through the playoffs and as the season wore on and injuries or they slip up get cold whatever they're both they're they're down to earth now but yet they

find each other as the final two teams in the West. So everyone is beatable, even in the East. The Penguins, Crosby, Malkin, and yet they're relying on their backup goalie to be extremely hot. And if he wasn't, and if he was just playing as a backup, there you go. No more Pittsburgh Penguins. They go out in the first round of the Islanders. Right.

Right. Who saw that series going seven? Well, exactly. And the Bruins. Going seven with the Leafs. No one saw that. The Leafs. Nobody saw that.

Okay, people will make fun of me for saying this, but... Well, they're going to make fun of it anyway. Yeah, exactly. Leafs in the finals this year would not have been a surprise. No. And you know what? What's interesting about that, too, had Montreal... It'd be an upset, but not a surprise.

Had it been Leafs-Montreal, the Leafs would have walked through that first round. The Leafs would have steamrolled the Habs. The Sens would be interesting. They might lose to the Sens. Right. But I think... But with the series Carlsen had. And then Spezza kind of coming back, but he was really just a warm body.

I didn't see him. He wasn't Jason Spezza. And that was round two. Yes, exactly. That's what I mean, though, if we played them in round two. Oh, I got you. Because if you're playing the Canadians in the first round, you probably, you know, maybe you move on to the Suns.

Well, they would have got the Rangers, I think. Oh, jeez. And they beat the Rangers, too, I think. Yeah, I think so. Boston steamrolled them. And then who do you get in the conference final? Probably Pittsburgh. Probably Pittsburgh, who beat the Leafs, but the Leafs played them very well.

Yes. And Pittsburgh needed at least one shootout to beat them. Right. So, I mean, but it's that Fast and the Furious thing. Like, you didn't almost have me. The Bruins are Vin Diesel right now. They're just like, whatever, kid. You know, almost had me.

Up three goals in the third. Whatever. Round three. Yeah, exactly. Son, Sonny Jim. And that game, we will revisit another day. Because that game is going to be analyzed to death As soon as these playoffs are over

That will be the game that is talked about Until October next year And every, okay, instead of the And I know we're getting way off track here, but it's a podcast So stick with us here Anything with me is not going to stay on track Do you remember, and I know it's my job I'm supposed to host this thing and corral

But here's the thing Remember how Phil Kessel, every time they played the Bruins Since Phil Kessel has come to Toronto The story has been Phil Kessel's afraid of the Bruins Phil Kessel can't play the Bruins. Phil Kessel, Tyler Sagan, Dougie Hamilton. Now it's going to be that bloody game.

Now that one story that disappeared because of how great Phil Kessel played and how poorly Sagan and Hamilton played, and they really didn't play that bad. They just didn't score a lot. I don't know if Hamilton was poor as much as Julian doesn't like playing rookies, but yeah, I understand your point. They weren't bad. It's just that compared to Kessel, they weren't Kessel.

Kessel was... He was on fire. Yeah. So that story goes away. One of the best players of the series. Yeah, exactly. That story goes away. And then all of a sudden, here we are with this freaking game, and it's going to, as Leaf fans, just know that it's going to haunt us, and it's going to be beaten over our heads, and every single fan of every other team in the NHL, all 29, even fans of the Florida Panthers, when you chirp them, they're going to bring it back up to us.

It's almost good in a way. It was a bonding experience for me in many ways. One, I got to bond with my fiance Because she was born and raised in Aberdeen, Scotland So like northern Scotland Moved here, soccer family Didn't care about hockey And I raised her as a hockey fan From scratch

I raised her I developed her Like a first round draft pick But she was a long development How long have you guys been together? Six years So she took a while in the minors She took a while, but she built up

And, like, I still remember watching the second round series between the Caps and Penguins a few years ago, and someone scored, and she went, yeah! Wait, who do we want to win? I still ask. And I'm like, we don't care, love. It's not the Leafs. But so I made her a Leafs fan and everything,

and we were at Maple Leafs Square, and you should have seen the look on her face when Kadri scored the 4-1 goal, just losing her mind. The only time I've heard her scream louder than that was when Eminem came out as a surprise guest at a Drake show. And I remember that show and I wasn't there

and I could have gone, ah, yes. Yeah, that's why I brought it up because I knew it would torture you. Bugs me to this day. She went, ah! And she was standing like right behind me

and I thought there was a murder. I was just, anyway. Yeah. So, and the look on her face when they won, or when the Bruins won, certainly not the Leafs,

in overtime. Mm-hmm. Oh. Yeah. It was her first Leaf heartbreak and I got to share that moment with her. I got to pat her on the back and go, get used to it, love.

That will happen. That will happen. That is your life now. That was her first time being genuinely disappointed in the Leafs. And then I see my uncle a few days later after that. And we're talking about it. And, you know, it brings down the mood. And he goes, I'll tell you a worse one.

I'll tell you a worse Leaf collapse. And I can't remember the year. But apparently, I don't know, the Flyers won like a couple straight cups or something. It was the Broad Street Bullies, and the Leafs got them in, like, round two or something like that. And I think they were up 3-1, I want to say. In the series? The Leafs were. Wow.

In the 70s. And I want to say it was Eddie Shaq. I should get my uncle to explain the story. One of the players on the Leafs. Tiger Williams. It was Tiger Williams. Oh, do you know what I'm talking about? I think I know what you're talking about.

And he goes, they're done like dinner. That's right. Done like dinner. Flyers come back and win the series Oh And Tiger Williams Who really didn't play that much It was really up to

Sittler and McDonald And all the other guys And Saul maybe Like all the guys Who were actually playing the game It doesn't matter He said it It doesn't matter

Anyway So Back on track for a sec here Cause I Not that that wasn't entertaining How do we talk about The 70s Flyers I'm sorry

We're Leaf fans We're all about ourselves Okay This is what we do When we were talking about The idea of this podcast We were just Sitting around like

What sort of things would we talk about? And we started on the Leafs, I think. And then it got to, like, Sidney Crosby's pants size. Now he needs custom-made pants. Because his legs are, like, so jacked. And you know what? We should talk about that someday. Because that's actually a really interesting story about Gary Roberts, you know, school.

Just getting people jacked. Yeah, exactly. But we got to say, we do have to preview the conference finals here. So we at least have some semblance of a podcast. No, no, pants. All right. Kings Hawks because we got off

the Kings Hawks and went on to the Pens so I want to ask you I don't know how we did that by the way it's very frustrating I'm supposed to be a professional broadcaster here

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yes and that's not my radio DJ voice I promise you that that would be so great it would be awful awful I would punch me out

here's Selena Gomez you know the DJs that still do that, too. Let's not name any by name. Okay, so Kings Hawks. Adam Love. Who's the better coach? Sutter, Joe Quinville?

Oh, man, I don't know. Let's go with... I don't know. You don't know? No, you know what? Let's go... I'm going to say Quinville. I wanted to say Sutter at first

because he just kind of came in and took the Kings from a crap team to a really good one. I think he's gotten the team to buy into a system really well So maybe he is the better coach, I don't know But Quinville Coached a team to the Stanley Cup And had that team torn apart

Right So that season they lost, what, Niemi? I want to say Oh, Niemi Versteeg Ladd, who's now the captain of the Jets Yeah Versteeg's the top scorer for the Panthers

So major role players at the time The Emmy's nominated for the Vesna. I don't even know if Crawford was the backup the year they won the Cup. I think he was like their third goalie. So he had a team torn apart. Oh, Bufflin. They lost Bufflin. Yeah, they lost Bufflin.

And now he's on a different team playing a different position. And now they're the Cup favorite again. Or at least they came into the playoffs the Cup favorite, along with Pittsburgh. So, I don't know. I think that's pretty amazing that he was able to take two totally different teams. I guess maybe the top line is still intact. Right, but there's a lot more to a team than a top line. Yeah, and a top defensive pairing and all that.

Sure. And I think we saw that with the... Oh, man, do I keep getting off topic? Whatever. I think we saw that with the Bruins. Okay, that's not off topic yet. Okay, good. So we did see that with the Bruins, though.

You're right. Because their weakness is defensive depth. Great defensive first two. And you get behind that Zdeno Char wall. Behind the Char of Seidenberg. Well, and when Seidenberg was hurt. Yeah. That really opened the door for Leafs.

And then when Ferentz was suspended? Although that game they didn't really take advantage of. I still feel like... Well, it was game two, wasn't it? I think they won. Was it game two? Yeah, they won. Oh, yeah, because he got suspended in game one.

Okay, you're right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so far in the past. I've tried to block that series up. So foggy on details. That really was like a bad breakup. But getting back on your track. Better goalie.

Hawks or Kings? Oh, Kings. Kings. Jonathan Quick. I mean, Corey Crawford, I think, is underrated. People give him a hard time. but it's Jonathan Quick. You can't.

You can't. Who's the better leader? Tays or Brown? Tays for the Hawks. Brown for the Kings. I think... Like who's most likely to lead their team to victory here? The Hawks have a better leadership by committee.

Okay. If that makes sense. So they got guys like Keith and Seabrook to kind of wrangle Tays who probably, I don't know, that's pretty young to be a captain. Brown and the Kings I don't know They got a really good Supporting cast too

That's This is what makes The conference finals so good Is I don't know I don't like knowing I like knowing But you're Okay

But this is kind of called The Steve Dangle Show And we kind of need Your expert opinion on things Oh I'm not saying We shouldn't talk about it Okay I'm just saying

So We should Here You know what you never see When you When you Tune into one of those Panel shows

Who do you think's Going to win this game Jim I don't know Doug They're two very evenly matched teams They go The Hawks

Because Blah blah blah And our interns Produced this highlight pack For us to show And I was like Can you be honest Can you be honest for a sec

Well Yeah and I think Well the traditional thought with that And again this is a little off track Is that In broadcasting You can't say I don't know You gotta have some sort of answer

Guess what Yeah I don't know You don't know But okay so you think Better committee of leaders More experience in the leadership in the Hawks. Is that your answer?

Yes, they've been better for longer. Better for longer. I will say. Fair enough. Yes. Okay, so moving on to the Pens and the Bruins, who you were so excited to talk about. Sidney Crosby's legs and everything.

Oh, baby. We've got Pens and Bruins. Same questions. Who's a better coach? Oh, Bilesma. Dan Bilesma. I'm not convinced Julian's a good coach. Okay, why not?

i just again it goes with the whole depth issue um once you get past their stars i think a good coach should be able to take a plug and make them really good or not necessarily a plug but a role player a role put him in a carlisle i his some of his lineup decisions are just mind-boggling to me but he does know how to get the most out of certain players the 07 ducks that won the cup i thought the best line on that team was rob niedermeyer sammy paulson travis moan yeah the shutdown one absolutely he's he's good at getting the most out of his players i'm not certain julian can do that with the bruins okay so he was an overtime winner against the habs a couple years ago from getting fired oh yeah interesting and well and he wins

the cup you got to extend them and then give him a twenty thousand dollar ring also right right okay Okay, so then you've got— Or however much they cost. For the Pens, you've got Volkoon. Yeah. And for the Bruins, obviously, Tim Thomas. Not actually. But we do need to talk about him a little bit later.

So who's got the better goalie? Volkoon. You think Volkoon's the better goalie? I can't believe I'm saying that. In the playoffs, the playoffs— Over Tuukka Rask, you think that— The playoffs are stupid. That's why.

My answer is because the playoffs are stupid and Volkoon is hot. We should hashtag that. Playoffs are stupid. We're going to put this on Twitter after we're done recording it and then hashtag playoffs are stupid. Playoffs are stupid. Okay. And they got the hotter goalie, I think.

And Rask is easy to rattle. I was going to ask you about that. He seems to have an attitude issue. He calls out his players on the ice. In the P.K. Supan kind of way. The bad way. I don't have a problem saying this, that's a European thing

I don't have a problem being Don Cherry about that And saying that's a European thing Is that a cultural thing? I saw it in the, well because I did the highlights for the KHL The KHL's YouTube channel this year And goalies over there You know, Russian or Finnish Swedish, they do it all the time

If a defender was screening them They look them in the face and go, hey idiot Get out of my way And yeah, Rask does that Interesting Yeah, yeah, so—and it's just genuine. How do you think that affects the mindset of his defensemen? I mean, you just talked about the Bruins not maybe having the most—the strongest depth,

obviously not the strongest depth in the series, but in their defense core. How do you think that affects the guys who aren't Zidane and Chara? Well, I think Chara would be the first to walk up to him and go, hey, don't feel bad about it, but don't friggin' do it. Don't do it again. Right. And here's how you don't do it again. Here's what I saw.

He doesn't seem like the type of leader who yells at his players and whatever. Right. So I think he'd be the kind to wrangle him. Someone's got to talk to Rask, though. That's what I mean. Right. That's what I mean. Who talks to him?

What is the mental effect of Rask yelling at these defensemen that, you know, because, you know, mistakes do happen. As we were talking about with the refs earlier, there is human error. This is a fast game. I think they're all experienced enough and accomplished enough on the Bruins that they just kind of let it slide off. I think on a different team, that might screw them up. That might actually affect them.

I don't think it has an effect on the Bruins. Nah. Okay. Okay. Rasky's not very graceful when he freaks out. No, he's not. Now, I have to ask about leadership on both teams. Because in many situations, a lot of people would say,

Sidney Crosby's a great captain. But that's been disputed recently in the last couple of years because they realized that, no, the guy's not perfect. Oh, my God. You know, people can rattle Sidney Crosby. Imagine. Imagine. So who is the better? Who's got the better leadership group?

Who's the better captain? Zidano, Chara, Sidney Crosby and their leadership, their assistant captains, I guess. I think Chara probably. OK. Chara and Chara's got Bergeron. Right. Right. And this is something that at least one Boston writer, I can't remember his name, said Bergeron should be the captain.

And, I don't know, whatever. Whatever. He's wearing a letter. That's all that really matters. But just older, more experienced. But watching that 24-7 with the Penguins? Yes. Man, does everyone seem to listen to Sid.

He's got this aura around him. And when he talks... You ever met Sid? No, I wish I have. I've met Stamkos a bunch of times. guys that talented I mean there must be a certain degree of respect even from the guys who are kind of

cocky and whatever who are like you know this guy is so good that I think he deserves my attention you know what I mean like that's what I mean like you know he's such a good player that even the players that wouldn't normally pay attention to him would are kind of like well he's Sidney Crosby

see that's 24-7 is great because you don't really see those conversations those interactions in the dressing room. And, you know, I've talked to these guys, I've interviewed them, but it's all one-on-one stuff, you know? And if you maybe get a couple players at a time, which I've done a few times,

they just chirp, you know, one another and stuff. You're joking around. Yeah, you don't actually get to see the power that they wield within the room. I would love to see that with the Bruins or something like that. Okay. Oh, wait, they were in the 24-7 a few years ago, weren't they?

I think so. There's been so many. I'm just bitter that the Leafs haven't had one Well, yeah, you know what, I'm actually kind of happy that they haven't Because I think a coach from every single one of them Has been fired the season of the 24-7 Hasn't it? Hasn't that happened? A couple of coaches have

Oh, Brizgalov's career's really taken off, I think His career as a media superstar Has taken off Wow Wow, he is He's Ilya Brizgalov And every time he says something, it makes me happy I don't know what else to say

I mean, I wish he had Twitter He needs to—I think he's got it. Does he? He doesn't tweet very much anymore. Okay, I wish he used it to tell us what he really thought. Well, and he says what he really thinks in Russia. A lot of the—we need more reporters who speak Russian. My buddy Andre, A.O. Sijenko, you can follow him on Twitter, does, and I always tell him,

I go, you have a gift that less than 10 reporters in this industry have. Yeah. Or 10 prominent ones. And Russian is such a different, it's such a different language. It's so, you know, everything is different about it. And Grabowski's, like reading some of Grabowski's interviews that he does in Russian, he's a different sounding guy. He sounds hilarious. But there's this great story from this past season, Andre told me, where this one reporter had an interview lined up with Brizgalov.

And Brizgalov texted him back, you know, he was late for the interview and he goes, sorry, can't talk now, in my space suit. What? right and I thought that was just him being a dick and blowing off the interview couple days later this special comes on TV or Russian TV whatever it was and he's in a cosmonaut suit

actually actually in like a space training facility or something like that or some museum so he probably oh one sec guys pulls out his phone and just texts oh can't I'm wearing a space diaper

I wonder too if that's like stuff that he collects He's got millions of dollars right what do you spend it on So I wonder if that's a legitimate cosmonaut suit Oh no no it was It wasn't like a replica or anything No no it was a suit It can't come in my space suit Can't talk

Could there be a better Excuse to blow anything off ever Yeah sorry man You know what like you have a one night stand with a girl And it's like I'm sorry but I gotta get into my space suit So you gotta go I will call you a cab, but I'll be getting in my spacesuit as you leave. It's like Poochie from Itchy and Scratchy.

I have to go now. My planet needs me. Yes, yes, that was very funny. He's got to do that. He needs to... Oh, man, it's a shame Mike Smith is doing so well in Phoenix and Brizgalov is making so much, because he needs to go back to Phoenix and never speak to anyone ever again.

No, he doesn't. And be a good goalie. No, he doesn't. He needs to go to Montreal, where the media is hot. on you all the time and just keep talking. I don't want him in Toronto, because I'm a Toronto Maple Leafs fan, but I would love to see him in Montreal

just to... Yeah, because you want the Habs to lose. If Gauthier were still the manager, the general manager there, I feel like they'd make a trade for him. Oh my god. I feel like they'd make a trade. No! I'm kidding. He wasn't that bad. He did trade for Conrad. Curry Price needs to put

the socks a little bit sochy. It's true. Very true. Okay, so. That's another podcast altogether. Yes, it is. I was about to get into it and I just saw the look. It's not the look, it's just it's like, well, we're going to have more episodes. This isn't the only one.

So let's, I mean, let's... Where's Cash? Yeah, let's hold off on some stuff. Well, Cash usually does my job on our show, but Oh, okay. Okay, so let's go from ridiculous... He's listening like, not so easy is it? On a list of ridiculous goalies in the NHL, Brzezgalov number one,

Tim Thomas number two. Which is impressive because he hasn't played all year. Yeah. But, I mean, Tim Thomas, the same guy who says, I won't go to the White House because I don't believe in the president, da-da-da-da-da. I believe in family morals and values, but I'm not going to fulfill my contract. And I'm eating Chick-fil-A. Yeah. Oh, yeah, by the way, I support a fast food restaurant that has an anti-gay stance.

Randomly. He's an amazing story. Like, man, I wish, ah, who did this piece on him? Anyway, basically, he grew up very poor. Somewhere in Michigan. I want to say Flint, Michigan. That makes sense. Flint is.

Yeah. And his parents had to sell their engagement rings or wedding rings or something in order to put him through some tournament or buy him equipment or something. I can't remember. They were broke. And he didn't really become a starting goalie in the NHL until he was in his 30s. He was drafted in 1994, late, by the Quebec Nordiques. First of all, I would just love to see Tim Thomas play in Quebec.

But he toiled in the minors for a long time, played in Finland, and he really only became a starter because the Bruins thought they had Andrew Raycroft, and then Vary did not have Andrew Raycroft, went through a couple other goalies. Or Andrew Raycroft just didn't have it. Well, yeah. And then, well, he got hurt. But anyway, he got hurt and then, oh, you know, played all but 10 games the next season with the Leafs. And then they said, well, I guess we got this Tim Thomas guy. And I remember when he started doing well and had these Vesna-like numbers, everyone's like, well, when's that going to come back down to earth?

I remember that too. And then he just, they never did. And then he got hurt and wasn't very good. I think he won the Vesna, was the backup the next year to Rask, and that was the year the Bruins had the 3-0 lead on Philly and got reverse swept by them. Next year he becomes starter again And I think they won the cup that year

I think that's the timeline He's had a weird career But the reason I brought up Michigan He came from this poor background And then he was just like Millions of dollars Throw it away I don't need it this year

Tell you what, nothing Did he do what he did And we're going to get to the actual point of the Tim Thomas discussion In a second But did he do what he did because he wanted to prove a point to everybody in the NHL, like, I'm Tim Thomas and I can do whatever I want? Was this an ego move as much as he said it was a family move?

Because he seems like a guy with a bit of an ego, just based on his actions. And he might be a nice guy, but to not go with your team to the White House based on political convictions, that's ego. Straight up, you're being a petulant child. Well, and it also shows how good he was the year they won the Cup,

because people ask the Bruins about that. him not going to the White House and they were all pretty open about it's just Tim being Tim. So it was pretty clear that they didn't like him for a while but being good makes a lot of people shut up and makes a lot of people like you. Ray Lewis, perfect

example. Yeah. Accessory to murder, but yeah, we're probably going to be in the NFL Hall of Fame. There's an Old Spice commercial. Yeah, exactly. And that's a whole other story. Yeah, really shows how good he was.

Maybe he's just weird. Maybe he's just genuinely weird. Maybe it's not so much an arrogance thing, but he's just weird. He may just be a weird guy. Might just be a weird dude who likes hanging out in a bunker. So he tells the Boston Bruins last year after the season's over, you know what? Not for me.

Not going to play. I might come back, but I might not. And the Bruins are like, we like definitive. So they trade him to the team that doesn't like definitive, the Islanders. And they also needed to, you know, the Islanders had to hit their cap, right? Which is why they took on the five million dollar hit They didn't pay him anything On this week's episode of Goalie Hoarders

Exactly Truly though You've got DiPietro I've got my DiPietro contract hanging up here And it's covered in cat poo Just like everything in that show is covered in cat poo Goalie Hoarders Next on TLC

And I've got my new contract right over here His name's Tim Say hi Tim No That'd be great to see one of the cats Let's just go, no. With Tim, on the Islanders, the chances of him playing for the Islanders are pretty slim. I don't know.

Maybe. Maybe. But the rumor today on Twitter, and I love Twitter for this, and I hate Twitter for this, because as a Leaf fan, we are constantly bombarded with rumors. Tim Thomas to the Leafs. For what? And for what reason? Why?

The Leafs have had conversations, Adam. That's the rumor. But it's not... If a basement... If I came up with this rumor, the story would be, awesome basement blog. First of all, I do all my blogs from upstairs.

Yeah. Across the hall from my parents' room. Okay? That's true. So it's not in the basement. It's across the hall from my parents'. Thanks. But if I came up with this, I'd get skewered.

But it's Howard Berger. Now, Howard is a former Sportsnet 590 reporter. He followed the Leafs for years. And he does blogging for, is it Eklund's site? Hockey Buzz? Hockey Buzz, yeah. The site that Eklund is on. I don't follow him closely enough.

That's all I know. And from all accounts, a nice guy. So, would Howard, several years removed from following the Leafs, and this is not a bashing thing, but would he still have the same sources that he did when he was following the Leafs? How does he know that? How would he know that? Well, here's the thing.

I don't believe he's making it up but I believe it might have been I think GMs kick the tires every day and go well what about this what about this possibility what about that possibility and it's nothing it's absolutely nothing

the Phaneuf trade took like six months it took months and months and months it took a long time I read this somewhere I can't remember where but the final part of it was Burt goes, you need to give us

Frederick Schuster for Jamal Mayers. End of deal. And I'm like, that was the trigger? Really? You get FNF for... And Schuster wasn't bad. I don't know what happened to him, but he was a great penalty killer for a team that couldn't kill penalties, right? It was very weird. But yeah, with this,

so you think that they, I mean, they're probably, I mean, they kick tires over Mika Kiprasov, too. So my question is, why? Why do we really need a veteran presence? Because Ben Scrivens played great hockey. Not only played great hockey, But if you really see his relationship with Reimer, Reimer's in his happy place with Ben Scrivens. And Scrivens is in his happy place with James Reimer.

And they're both, these guys I've met enough times that I'm confident saying they're just genuinely good attitude people. And Gustafsson, we can get into the conversation of whether or not Gustafsson's a good goalie or whatever. But he had his Breaking the stick over the crossbar And screaming And he had his tantrums These guys are for the most part Happy-go-lucky guys

There was once or twice Ben Scrivens Out of practice broke a stick or whatever They put themselves in their happy place Would it be nice to have a JSG Gare around and kind of be like I've seen this situation before kids Buckle up, it's okay You'll get through it

I'll hire them as a goalie coach at least have unlimited resources why is it that we have to go out because if you go out and you get a veteran goaltender then you have to dress them and then you're mentoring one goalie instead of two goalies because Scriven

sits because Reimer played lights out in the playoffs he was awesome and something that the Penguins and pretty much every team in the Final Four right now have shown that it doesn't hurt to develop your own team Yes, exactly.

You know what I mean? Have them grow up together and figure it out together. And go through the big Game 7 losses together. Yeah, this is a good thing. Yeah, the Leafs loss is a good thing. At least I'm telling myself that. Okay. Because if I don't laugh, I'll cry.

So likelihood of Tim Thomas actually coming to Toronto? No. Not going to happen? No. Okay. Also, I thought, you know, $5 million salary, that doesn't make a lot of sense. The Isles would have to retain salary or some sort of craziness that goes with the new CBA. I don't understand how it works.

All right, so don't give too much credence to the rumor. They probably had the conversation, but not going to happen. It's one of those things where it's like, hmm, the numbers on my website are dipping. Might as well throw this out there. It has some legitimacy. Here you go. It's hit fodder. Okay.

Website hit fodder, I think. All right. Don't blame them for doing it. I think it's based in truthfulness and reality, but. So moving on to our last story on the Steve Dangle podcast. Okay. Mooseheads win the Memorial Cup. Halifax. Which, when I lived in Halifax four years ago, they had just lost everybody, and they stunk.

They stunk out the building. They lost Brad Marshand, I think. Yeah, like they lost all their good players, and then they stunk out the building. But now they're awesome again, which is good, and then they're going to lose all their good players, and they're going to stink out the building again. That's junior. Yes. That is junior hockey.

Unless you're the Knights. What do we take away from the tournament and from the minor league season this year? What are the rankings? Let's talk draft a little bit. Sure. Just a little bit. Junior hockey is really, really, really exciting. That doesn't necessarily make it good hockey all the time, but it's really, really, really exciting.

Goals and scoring chances and big saves and all that stuff that we love about the NHL come from mistakes. Mistakes and a lot of skill. Junior has a, we'll say a wide variety of skill sets. Okay. You have your Nathan McKinnons. Yeah, the guys who are at the top of the draft class.

The top of the top of the top. And then you have your 20-year-old overager who is just fighting for a spot to stay in the league. Or your 16-year-old rookie who they just said, hey, I know you've been a forward all your life, but you're big, so we're going to put you on defense. Right? So you got the cream of the crop, and you got some guys who really haven't quite figured it out. When they're 40, we'll say, well, I played junior with him. Yeah. Right?

Drinking beer on a patio somewhere. Got their Letterman jacket on when they're 30. Yeah, exactly. But all those exciting things come from mistakes. And in junior, there's just more. There's more. And that's the same reason why people love NCAA football and basketball, right? Exactly.

Exactly. You know, 3-0 lead in the third period for Team Canada against Russia. Hold on to your butts, folks. Yeah. Russia wins 5-3 in regulation. Yep. the States have a two-goal lead on Canada, less than two minutes to go or whatever it was the year before.

Eberle, boom, boom, ties the game. Canada loses in overtime. So what do you think the effect on this year's draft will be based on that tournament? Because that is, you know, that's the pressure cooker, right? That's when you see the players who truly are there to play and have the mental mindset. And don't underestimate that.

I think the mental mindset of certain players, like guys like Gary Roberts. Gary Roberts was always a very strong player. But what made Gary Roberts Gary Roberts was his mentality, was the way he thought about the game, was how fearless he was, what a leader he was, and he was like a bull. So from that, what do you see coming out of this and the effect on the draft? Well, scouts love to tell you that it means nothing.

And I like to hope that it means nothing, these little small tournaments, because, you know, a player plays 60-plus games or whatever in a season. Nathan McKinnon's been in the league a few years. You know, you get to scout him, see how he's improving, see what his weaknesses still are from year one, what he's, you know. But he wasn't No. 1 heading into this. Okay. And now he's ranked No. 1.

So then it does have an effect. Of course it has an effect. It does, but they would tell you, you know what, they were so neck and neck in this tournament and da-da-da-da. It was him and Drew Ann and Seth Jones, right? The top three? Yeah. But what is amazing is how passionate some people are about McKinnon should go No. 1,

Seth Jones should go No. 1, no, Drew Ann is amazing, he's the best player. How would you know that unless you're like a Halifax Moosehead season seat holder? Yeah. I love people who watch the World Juniors, watch the Memorial Cup, and go, ah, I know everything there is to know about these kids. Right. How would anyone in Toronto have a proper opinion about Seth Jones, Who plays for the Portland Winterhawks

Right, exactly Well, you need the Sportsnet package for sure Yeah, you do And also, you need to not regurgitate everything you hear On your morning sports headline shows Right XXCarrieFrasierSucks01 on HFBoard says Yeah, so I'm going to take his opinion

And also because Jay Onright said it I'm going to take his opinion Yeah Even though, nothing wrong with Jay Jay's a pretty smart guy Very smart, I talked to him recently Did you? I don't have to do this very often

but I had to psych myself up to go say hi I get starstruck if it was him I love him I'm going to miss him and Dan Again, I've talked to Stamkos and Eberle but I'm just like, another day at the office Jay Onright, I was like, oh my god

Hi Jay and I called him up and I'm like, do I say hi Jay? Mr. Onright, sir Like we went to high school together Adam Wilde styles Like, I don't know. Well, you'd never call me Adam and be like, yo, biatch, what's up?

Yo. I caught myself there. Yeah, could have been something else. Although, we don't have any. Smell butt. We could probably swear, but I don't know if we need to. Yeah. Buddy.

We're not being regulated by anything, so we can do whatever we want. Podcast. Yeah, exactly. So, when you talk to him, tell me about it. What was it like? Oh, jeez. Brilliant guy. And it was weird hearing him calm and cool and professional talking

because he's always just so animated on the air and everything. And when I was, for context, ladies and gentlemen, I worked at the NHL Network for the last few months of the season, and that's in the TSN studios. And he's off air running around the studio screaming. It's hilarious. He's so, so funny. and then I had him on the phone

and basically what I'm trying to do is have a beer or a coffee with as many people as possible to just get their advice. I'm not asking for a job interview or whatever. It's like when Mario Lemieux takes Sidney Crosby in and makes him live at his house for a year, right?

It's that kind of, you know. I love the J-100. Well, yeah, it's that mentorship. You're looking for that. Right, or just, you know, tell me I'm on the right path. Tell me I'm on the wrong path. Tell me something.

And it was weird having a real professional conversation with him. I'm like, where's the you blew it graphic? Where's all the funny stuff? Where's Tim? Did you meet Tim? No, he was on the phone. Solid. Like just some stranger who had never met him before.

I said, hey, Jay, I went to the same school as you. Just certainly not at the same time. Can I get a coffee with you? Can I get a beer with you or whatever? He goes, tell you what, call me on Monday. Nice. At noon. And I called him Monday at noon.

Excellent. And he answered his phone. It was, yeah, really cool dude. Well, okay, so we've got to wrap it up quick. So what are the draft rankings right now? I think it's McKinnon 1, Jones 2, Drouin 3. Okay. I think.

Okay. It doesn't matter really who goes first because, honestly, you know, the top three of the top three, they're all going to be great, probably hockey players. We don't see an Alexander Dagg happening here. Cam Barker. Cam Barker. Vancouver Canuck Cam Barker.

Our producer, Chris. Who you can't hear exhaling deeply off the mic. We're going to put you on a microphone next show. Is a huge Canucks fan. So this is going to be a fun dynamic, I think. And my co-host Cash on the Cash and Wild show is a huge Ottawa fan. We'll have some fun. We'll have some fun.

Oh, yeah. So, listen. We're going to wrap it up right now. Because this has been a very long... I think we talked for much longer than we thought we would. But I hope you've enjoyed it. It's the very first Steve Dangle podcast. And we're going to keep doing this.

We're going to try to do this a couple times a week, and especially in the fall. Through the summer, I mean, it's just hard to find NHL stories to talk about sometimes, so we're not going to pretend that there's something to talk about. Sidney Crosby's pants. Yeah, exactly. But as soon as the fall hits and through the rest of the playoffs,

we're going to try to pump out two of these a week, and then we're going to have specific days that we set them out on. So if you've listened this far in the podcast, thank you so much. You're beautiful people. You are. You look really great today, actually. I like what you did with your hair. Yeah.

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