The Steve Dangle Podcast - The SDPN All-Star Weekend Celebrity Panel! | February 3, 2024

Episode Date: February 4, 2024

On this episode of The Steve Dangle Podcast, we're hosting our All-Star panel of guests! 00:00 The SDP 07:00 Marilyn Dennis 18:00 Drew Livingstone and Cam Stewart 32:30 Mark Lazerus, Sean McIndoe (Down Goes Brown), and Greg Wyshynski 57:15 Chris Johnston and Julian McKenzie 1:28:00 The SDP Follow us on Twitter: @Steve_Dangle, @AdamWylde, & @JesseBlake Follow us on Instagram: @SteveDangle, @AdamWylde, & @Jesse.Blake For general inquiries email: [e-mail] Reach out to https://www.sdpn.ca/sales to connect with our sales team and discuss the opportunity to integrate your brand within our content! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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and help create a world free from the fear of cancer. Register today at pmcfwalk.ca. Good morning or good afternoon, everybody. Thank you for coming. Oh, baby. 300 tickets sold for today's event. So thank you all so much. This is crazy. This is crazy. What a lineup. Hey, who was here last night? We had a lot of people here last night. All right. All right. Well, listen, we've got our all-star panel shows up for you today.

So, enormous, some enormous names, and we'll just, you know, we've talked about it on the podcast before, but, you know, we'll kind of let them roll out as they come. I'm not going to tease anybody beforehand. The one thing I do want to say is if, before we get started here, if you would like to buy any merch, go see our boy Robert Molloy. Right in the back. Right in the back, up there, we've got merch there for you. Can we get a round of applause for Robert Molloy? Yeah, for Robert Molloy. Woo!

The other thing I want to say is that we are having an after party tonight at Isabelle's on King West. You can get your tickets for that or you can buy them at the door so we're going to be all hanging out there.

I think most of the crew, Julian's invited half of the city I think at this point. Everyone's coming out. Yeah, so this is going to be good. No, no, Julian invited Don LeCision. Who invited?

Who then invited half of the city. That's right, yeah. So it's going to be a fun time so we hope to see you there as well. So shall we sit down and have a little bit of fun? And Adam Copeland can't be here. Yeah.

Unfortunately. i asked him i'm like can i confirm he goes yep and then he unconfirmed you know unfortunately you know whose fault that is me no who gary oh gary oh it is very literally gary bettman's fault yeah what happened with that uh he's got to do an interview uh something with the nhl network i think and they're kind of paying for him to be here so okay we lost that tiebreaker pretty good yeah that's fair we were trying to jump on their thing that's fine yeah but there are other people we're not paying to be here who will be on yeah that's right that's right including his mom so who's got tickets to the game today okay well yeah so expensive right not a lot yeah all right

that's good that's they aren't cheap they are not i'm not surprised they are not yeah yeah and and who did you guys go check out fanfare as well across the street yeah yeah it was pretty good right did you see the big cheeto glove all that yeah yeah listen there's a lot of corny activations around the all-star game that one got me it won me over it's a giant cheeto we tell them jesse how they sent him a glove yeah yeah that's why he yeah that's why he likes it he got a free glove out of it but just one a glove a glove and a bag of cheetos what what's great so they put like sticky orange stuff on it to be like cheeto dust but if you you put it on and you're like this is the lightest glove i've ever worn and it's comfortable and it's really flexible and you

look on the side and it says lightning and i'm like is this a pro stock glove is it yeah oh and then so i put it on when i was at hockey last week and i didn't try at all and i think it was the gloves fault stop it what hi hi guys pick it up yeah what did you guys think of the the skills comp last night did you catch a lot of it i know we were here for some of it yeah we were here for some of it the parts that i caught i liked i thought the obstacle course people were dragging on the obstacle course i'm like this is hard i don't know what this is really hard especially the speeds that they're going um as far as all-star weekends and i know i'm not the only one i find them usually really boring uh and and i thought last night's was so much better than the

thursday night draft uh i think they missed the mark they missed the mark with the draft by the way and by the way just so we know i normally start every podcast like this if you like something feel free to cheer for it okay so let me hear you cheer yeah okay so you're good at that if you don't like something definitely boo let me hear you do that all right all right everybody boo producer drew where is he he's always right there boom there he is oh drew earns i think when you when you get to the the the all-star thing obviously it's it's great locally right it's What we've been talking about is how do we make this great on television for fans and the NHL solution to that is let's Just not do it next year

And so they're doing the Four Nations Cup. So some of hockey Canada United States Sweden Finland, so we're not gonna see this for a while. Kucherov won't be there. No, he doesn't have to try It's a great thing, you know Man, I don't has any other player ever been booed at an all-star game I mean ever maybe who is a lazy bum like people are like he probably wants to I don't care what he wants to do he's on a 76 million dollar contract by the time he lives in a state that pays no tax by the way yeah like like by the time it's all said and done he will have made over 100 million dollars oh I feel so bad I do not care it's the all-star game you know who else could

have been on vacation connor mcdavid who campaigned for the thing who actually tried and won funny that and uh freaking uh connor bedard when was his last solid meal dude's got a busted jaw can't play in the game showed up anyway 18 years old 18 year olds don't have anywhere to be right they don't have lives to lead and friends to hang out with but i'm supposed to feel bad for a guy who has two cups and a hundred mil in the bank shut up no i do not care i mean fair and the competition he didn't try and lasted 45 seconds you're asking him to care for 45 seconds he basically that's a shift in the nhl right here look to walk and talk to us about that go to any music store in the city there's a lot of them and buy the most expensive violin

you can find. I do not care about his feelings. No. Try. Everyone else did. Everyone else had some fun. You grump.

As we talked about. That's my Kucherov rant. I got it out of the way. I've had three espressos. I'm on one. There you go. What were you going to say, Jess? You feel bad for the fans

because as we said, the tickets aren't cheap. You know, you bring kids to those games and you show up and you have a guy out there making millions of dollars who isn't giving any.

Yeah. Yeah. Listen, I think the funniest thing, and listen, Tampa beat us in the playoffs. We beat them in the playoffs. They've got more cups recently, recently, but we will always be the city that booed Kucherov when he put it on. And I like that. I like that. I'm the, I'm the fan that likes that. Now, uh, we got to bring out our first guest for the all-star panel. Uh, this is somebody whose house we started this show in okay this is 10 11 years ago 2013 that's right uh she's my mother

her name is Marilyn Dennis mom can you come out please she's coming there it is I don't know we're making making us wait here she is there's your mic hi what am i doing here right there okay okay good hi guys am i there next to your son yeah yeah yeah whose classes are these it's okay he can't see anyway it doesn't matter yeah sure i can hold that for you there you go all right i'm so happy to be here for the nhl nfl nhl wow wow that hurt wow that hurt um so i i guess steve and jesse really want to take control of this particular event because so you're gonna have to swivel that way because i guess i i was like do i need to prep anything and jesse said no no no we're just here

to embarrass you okay good well listen i went to high school with your son as you know he had a very illustrious high school career yeah yeah and i just i want i want to know what things did you think he would be instead of a podcast host i thought he was going to be my basement dweller for the rest of his life i thought he was going to be beside podcasting i knew broadcasting was in there i knew it yeah but i didn't even know what a podcast was me so i know but what did i think he was going to be um probably something in broadcasting okay great he's a good writer by the way did did rock star ever occur to you because he was in several bands that i paid to see i went to the elma combo was that the revelers at the that was the revelers i was there too

yes i was there too did you have the t-shirt with the stolen construction sign No, I did not have that. But I really loved the band. I thought the band was great. She's lying, by the way. She's lying. She's completely lying. 18?

That was a good song? I think Brass Rail Lady was my favorite song. That's right. We wrote, okay, this is embarrassing. So we tried to write our own songs, and predictably they were all bad. Yeah. But one of them, we wanted to imagine,

we were like 17, never been to a strip club before, but we'd seen the Brass Rail, so we thought we'd write a song about it and boy had we never been to a strip club before it was like a love song terrible it's terrible that's cute so one of the most important moments of adam's career is his tenure at ryerson university uh formerly ryerson now tmu uh adam did not graduate he he dropped out and i just want to hear from yeah round of applause for dropping out two-time dropout two-time and i'd love to hear from his mother the moment adam came to you and it was it psychology philosophy no it was what happened it was it was uh it was

you didn't have the grades to make rta we like you so we're gonna put you in this bsba uh which is like a bullshit ba program uh excuse me and all the kids in the audience especially him benji hello he's so cute uh and so it was a philosophy light okay yeah you can imagine me in a philosophy program and i love paying for that oh yeah so the moment adam came to you and he said i'm gonna drop out of university what was that like it was heartbreaking it was it was like okay all right all right and i called my sister who's a teacher and she said to me okay don't don't freak out because maybe he'll find something else maybe that's not his thing I thought maybe that okay so how did I feel I felt um I felt sad I felt sad come on very sad as a mother but then I was happy

sad sound but then I thought then I thought to myself wait a minute he's gonna waste a lot of money continuing on with this continuing education and then not do what he wants to do how do you like that okay i turn it around i don't know yeah yeah so being a being a high school teenager is awkward because you're a boy not yet a man and but you think you're a man and you think you have responsibilities and everything but i remember going to scarborough town center and asking my mom to buy me rock aware jeans because oh yeah i was really cool oh yeah as you know when adam was a front man he wore leather pants on stage and i need to know did he i was slim use his own money to buy those leather pants i had nothing to do with that purchase i had nothing where did

you get them they were on sale at a store called danie which doesn't exist anymore but yeah i went to danie leather and i went to the i went to the the the because i couldn't afford like what was i doing in there it was like pretty woman but but less less attractive and uh so i go to the the section where they're you know blowing stuff out and there was some jeans there and i think i think sorry yeah leather pants and and yeah i tried them on and they fit i arrived to your concert medium medium as i said i was slimmer okay you have to imagine me thanks buddy i have them now oh you do yeah there you go but i went i went i went to the concert and i saw you and i said to my girlfriends where did he get those that's all i just don't remember

so here's what i want to know good though you look good so we start uh steve and i i i moved back from calgary steve and i start this show we hadn't even met jesse yet but we did start the show in uh at rogers for about two seconds and then we got a pizza sponsor yes so then we got to you guys remember panago pizza um yeah we tried to get them back they're not spending money anymore It's weird. But we were in your basement because we couldn't be at Rogers with a sponsor. So what did you think we were doing down there? Like, what did you think of what we were doing down there?

Well, there was a thing called a podcast. I looked it up. I thought, okay, this is a different way of broadcasting. There was a bunch of moving boxes downstairs. You had moved in. I mean, you were in between all those moving boxes. But the thing that got me the most is I would wake up the next day and I'd see that Steve Simmons was in our basement.

Yes. Steve Simmons came to the house. He came to the house. And so did Richard. Richard Petty, former CEO of Maple Leaf Sports and Entertainment. So I see them on the stairs and go, did they come to the house? Yeah.

Well, did you tidy up? No. What did you feed them? Nothing. They brought their own coffee. I'm like, I know these guys. What are you doing? And I was upstairs sleeping while you did that.

Yeah. But that's what, And then after a while, I realized that you guys didn't really have a food budget. So I started going and buying his sandwiches. Do you remember the sandwiches? I forgot about the sandwiches. Here's some sandwiches. That's when Steve was still waiting on his paycheck from the KHL.

No, that's a true story. He had no money. That's a true story. Tell us. I worked for a really reputable league, mostly based in Russia, called the Continental Hockey League. and they owed me a life-changing amount of money 11 grand it's like eleven and a half thousand dollars when i was 25 and they waited six months to pay me and i thought i was never gonna get it and when the day i finally got it i i phoned up my uh uh fiancee at the time now wife and i was

like let's go buy a house risk taker house prices were different back then weren't they a little the other thing and i think this is kind of uh funny uh is that um you know mom grew up mom was born in edmonton so there are some oilers jerseys here today so we got some oh what are we booing edmonton come on it's the all-star game we can do them later uh on principle okay so you're born in edmonton but two weeks later family moves to pittsburgh pennsylvania right and that's really your home city that's my home city and so when you were growing up for pittsburgh oh come on get it up for pittsburgh why are we booing pittsburgh why are we doing i think is it the dubious thing it might be the dubious thing is it because of

crosby yeah frank ceravalli here so so when you were your first hockey and wasn't in pittsburgh you went to civic arena you oh it was yeah you went to the pittsburgh penguins just one game just one game back in the 1970s yeah and then you moved to calgary your family moves to calgary my dad buys Calgary Flames tickets can't get enough he bought seven tickets why not eight I don't know and what what blows my mind is they used to go they used to play this this arena called the corral which had 5,000 people does that sound familiar that's where I saw Gretzky first play right and what was that like going to see a game Gretzky in the 80s was it was awesome because the corral was really uh you know I mean it has such history behind it and it was really intimate and

it was really my dad took me to this game and the reason why my dad took me to this game is quite funny because he i was going through my first divorce runs in the family that's where you got and he didn't know how to talk to me about it so between the second and third period he said so how's everything going with the divorce he said really good great and that was it that was a conversation now let's go back to gretzky that was it that was it yeah My mom used to tell me a story, too, that the corral is like an old barn. I remember when I lived out there, I saw Flo Rida and Pitbull there. Yeah.

It was a Virgin Radio event. And the organist used to be in the crowd. So she would be sitting there playing the organ in the middle of the crowd, and people would go up and request songs from her, which is kind of neat. That's really cool. Yeah, isn't that cool? Like a jukebox? Yeah, like literally, she'd be playing the organ with everybody around her.

Yeah. Yeah. And I got to say... And you sat on benches, too. Right, right, right, right. So, Mom, listen, thank you for giving us the space downstairs in your very nice basement... Yeah, round of applause.

...to start all this, because without that, there would be no this, so thank you. Am I the founder and CEO of the SDPN podcast? I feel that I am. I feel that I am. I love the fact that it's grown so much. I still don't know what you do but I'm really happy for all of you thanks for having me everybody

thanks guys alright so is it time for us to bring out our next guest sure are we at time Jesse you're staying out for this one aren't you yeah I'm staying out with our next guest alright and that would be

do you know Drew Livingstone and Cam Stewart get a boo Man, he's the heel Boo I'm like Batman, I like it Yeah, I don't know who's gonna get You can sit in the middle there

You gotta be like, we have a trade to announce You're gonna wanna hear this And then get booed anyway Fair, fair So for those of you not familiar This is producer Drew Yeah, cheers Cheers.

Yeah, yeah. There's some cheers. Been on the SGP quite a bit this week with Matty Away. You've been chiming in. You joined our draft. I love all the comments like, where the fuck is Matty? Why is Drew here? And this is Cam Stewart.

Hey! Let's go Leafs! Yeah! Yeah! Whoa! Hey! They host Drew and Stu. Yep.

Our football betting podcast. Oh, we bet it all. Yeah. Ladies basketball, cricket, golf, anything. If it moves, we bet on it. Yeah, Cam's like the Russian ping pong three in the morning kind of better. I'm more of a – I'm not that big of a degenerate. I am, yeah.

Like a rack of ribs at 4 o'clock in the morning after my show last night watching Forensic Files. Yeah, we got a lot of issues, Jesse. Let's put it that way. Lots of issues. So I think we got to take a step away from hockey for a little bit and touch on the Super Bowl coming up next week. And the biggest storyline around the Super Bowl is obviously Taylor Swift.

i couldn't care less about taylor striff struggling me and drew are probably the only meatballs in joe montana back there who we just met the f1 driver we're betting san francisco because you know what we're idiots that's why so you have some very strong feelings about taylor swift do you want no actually my girlfriend's a huge taylor swift fan it's actually not her fault that they put the camera on her what did she ever do to anybody fucking media's fault leave her alone i don't like mahomes's wife she's annoying and she wouldn't be my friend that chick she's got major issues bro all right what's your favorite taylor swift song then cam i don't know i i don't listen to taylor swift i'm from the 90s like i i listen

to like pearl jam sound like i'm dude i don't i have no you talk to me about artists like i still have a cd player at home and a disc man you are a little bit more familiar with taylor and my wife is obsessed with taylor swift she got tickets in that draw whatever they're currently selling nosebleeds for three grand each i'm like we're selling those tickets right nope you see what they're doing at the super bowl with the jet right she's got the concerts flying into tokyo back to the game for kelsey's gotta hand it to her she's committed like this is no it's a joke relationship for publicity you think she fucking needs publicity he's the guy who he needs her more than she needs him but it doesn't matter they actually really love each other drew your wife refuses to sell

her Taylor Swift tickets for an extra $3,000. Yeah, it makes no sense. You're an idiot. I'm like, that's some mortgage payments for the house. Would you sell it? So she bought them for a couple hundred dollars and she refuses to sell them. $150 each, two tickets. Would you guys sell Taylor Swift tickets

for an extra $2,500? Yes! Now that we got a big no in the back there. I'd sell them for a dime. You give me a smooth thousand, crispy brown ones, they're gone. They gone. I should show her this video and be like, look, Everyone's cheering cheer if I should sell these tickets. Yeah, all right

That's right, what's your lean on the game? Are you guys both 49ers? Seriously? I'm a Seattle Seahawks fan and like my boys Vizine, Vince and his crew They're all Niner fans but we have a deal when our team gets to the Super Bowl we put our shit aside and we cheer for each other because We've been friends since we're kids thing is everyone's gonna bet KC cuz of Mahomes cuz of Kelsey San Francisco they've been hanging on by a thread but green bay should have lost that game they should have lost a fucking detroit but you know what now they got an extra week to think about it it's all about brock purdy their rookie quarterback if he doesn't gag they'll be fine mcafree kittle in the gang

let's go niners let's dig for gold baby yeah i've bet against my homes for two straight rounds me too i'm an idiot like an idiot uh and i'm gonna do it again jesse great way it's a great way to give away money but that's what we do like yeah i'm telling you though the whole world will be betting on Kansas City in this game so I hope me and Drew are on the right side I like the Niners to win like 24-21 should be close yeah I don't know I'm betting against my homes but I'm not confident in the pick I'm not confident in anything I do overall on the season because you guys are very honest about your records betting during the show like it's on the screen you can see your wins and losses are you guys up on the year we actually are you're up on shocking like 40 games

Do you know how many times, Jesse, we've almost hit props and my girlfriend's over and I go, hey, honey, you know that dream I had about dressing up as Colonel Sanders on a riverboat in New Orleans when we're going to win this $25,000 and then right at the end of the game, Drew, how many times have you almost won like 50? We've been close to hitting like monster lottery parlays, but there's always one thing that goes wrong. That's the problem. That's life. And last night you had one with the All-Star game. Yeah, I needed my car to pull it out, but of course, McDavid's too good.

He is too good. He is too good. I'm like, is he going to fall over and give McCar this win? Nope. I'm just going to beat everybody by four seconds because he's the best in the world. There he is. Eddie Edmonton over there. There you go.

Yeah. I'm sorry, Leafs fans, but McDavid is better than Matthews. It's just factual. That's a fact, boys. It was nearly $1,000. Yeah, I would have won $1,000 if McCar would have won that. No, the best is Ranger fan. Like, he's the, hey, Ron Ranger.

The only guy. There you go. Merrick Malik jersey right here. The shootout. I like it. I like that. I respect that. You're out here.

One thing everybody knows about your relationship is that it's sometimes contentious, but there's always love involved. You guys go way back. I wouldn't say contentious at all. Drew, I used to work with him like years ago. We used to call him camera too. Drew, he's always above average in sports. His dad owns a, sorry, your stepdad owns a meat shop. So I go shopping there.

And when I don't have money, he loads up my Corolla full of steaks. And we have a great relationship. Okay, so if it's all love, I think that's even better. Yeah. because we have to play a little game with these two, and we're going to play the newlywed game. So if you two can get out your phones so you can write down your answers, we have a couple questions, and we'll play a little newlywed game,

and then we'll bring out our next guest. Cam loves rose petals and white wine. You'd be surprised, Drew, for being a guy. I do love candles. I like candles all the time. And once in a while, a nice bath. so how this works gotta take a soak

how this works is you answer what your partner the answer for your partner is okay correct old school

so we'll start with something easy who is your partner's celebrity crush so think about it for a second write it down

and we'll get to it I don't know if I know the names of the women old enough for cam I'm trying to think someone old hmm he's gonna be like

yeah I like her but who's yeah there you go that's mine i'm gonna go younger than cam but old enough that he'll love her okay are you ready with yours drew i'm ready for it okay give it to us i'm going jennifer lopez that's incorrect damn it the answer is kate beckinsale oh okay that's younger than i thought i need my senior card right anyway no i'm a big fan cam what's your answer for drew uh taylor swift no boo boo what's your answer right now uh

sydney sweeney sydney sweeney okay cheers yeah i this this game's got a lot of issues and problems yeah yeah yeah okay okay this is this one's i think a little easier name the best gift your partner ever gave you? Hmm. Oh, we got an aww. Am I going to do like friendship or something like that? I can't do that. You guys give each other birthday gifts, Christmas gifts.

I got, I'm thinking. Hmm. Costco gift card. Costco gift card. That's the best gift I've ever given you? Actually, when you packed my car with me, that was, I had a tear in my eye. That didn't sound very good, but you know what I mean.

Cam's giving me, he showed up to my stag, my bachelor party, and we had a prosciutto. I don't know if there's any Italians in the crowd. Any Italians in the crowd, you do this game where you hold up a prosciutto as long as you can. What a stag. Your uncle did that. That guy was so tuned. I had firefighters there, police officers there. Like the most jacked dudes ever.

Cam sees that prosciutto and he's licking his lips and he's like, I'm going to hold this longer than them. No, Jesse, it was insane. It was like five plus minutes this guy was holding it and like sweat coming down, drool. And he finally asked a fan on the radio to cut it up for him because he couldn't find anyone to slice the meat. No, these guys were firefighters. They were ripped. I was fatter back then, too. And I go, the cop looks at me, and this guy's like Arnold Schwarzenegger.

I go, I just want it more. I want it more than you. And a nice bottle of scotch, too. Dude, you hooked me up. Great stag. Which Cam didn't pay to get into, by the way. It didn't help the wedding. Nickname for your partner.

So you're guessing what your partner will call you as a nickname. Pet name, if you will. I mean, I'm pretty sure we know what each other's called. what does cam call you what does cam call me camera two drew camera two camera two drew yeah i'm also grande big bear big bear i was gonna say he's also the raging redhead which we call him yeah i got a lot of stupid nicknames when i was in mexico they had a cannonball competition when i was about 50 pounds bigger before i got diabetes and i hear this guy going oh so oh so i go what the fuck what the fuck is oso it's like bear bear bear like that's bear in mexican but i didn't know

it's spanish and yeah we walked away with a lot of bottles that day it was fantastic if your partner won the lottery what's the first thing they'd buy probably more lottery tickets yeah that's that's cam for sure that's cam actually you know what i would buy a horse oh you already had a horse before yeah our horse conflict diamond but by the way people i'll give you one tip on life never own a horse it's the worst investment you owned like you own a racehorse yes and it was the worst horse ever it never won no he won he won at georgian downs you can look it up on youtube gary guy he won by nine lengths but the problem is when you own a horse and he gets hurt you got to feed it we have to pay the vet yeah hay cost money carrots and like he's taking him for a

he's going around the track so we're sitting there not making any money it's like six grand six grand six you know i mean because we gotta pay the trainer we're not gonna hurt our horse we gotta make them live and we're we're good people we're not like he was our friend but the problem was we're out 30 or 40 grand i just want more info on like how owning a horse works yeah who did you approach to buy a horse no a guy that used to drive at woodbine and he knew a horse for sale his name was conflict diamond pretty cool name it was kind of crazy yeah and you go in You got, like, buddies each by 10% of the horse. He was doing good for a while.

And then one race, he was very temperamental, kind of like me. He was up and down. And he got rattled because they started late. And he got hurt, his hoof hurt. And then after that, we were done. Like, we had to keep on paying and paying and paying. I think he's racing up in Buffalo right now. Oh, so he's still alive.

Yeah, he might be. Or at a petting zoo because he was pretty old when we bought him. Did you win any races with your conflicts? He won a race. Yeah, he did? Okay. Yeah, and Harry. And you know what the worst is?

We weren't there that night. me and brett you were doing a show and i just wanted that one picture with me and the horse and us being happy but wait so we weren't there but we were there when he finished ninth tenth eighth eleventh you didn't answer what my first purchase would be though you said yours yeah so what what would drew buy if he won the lottery yeah what would drew buy if he won my answer was a car for cam because i know he hates his car would buy a car right now colorado avalanche season tickets oh there you go i'd have to get a house lifetime lifetime tickets yeah like president of the fan probably a lifetime would be cheaper than leave season tickets for one year

probably and what's the correct answer what would you buy is he right uh vacation somewhere i don't know yeah i don't know or i'd like to live my dream was ever to hit a parlay live on a golf course no one actually i was telling drew you know stupid this is jesse like if i was in my retirement be one of those guys wake up bet ponies have some drinks bet sports and then in the morning go on a beach with a metal detector and try to find jewelry that's my dream life wait retirement might not last that long for you if you're doing all it's a great life and you have children like i your dream life is to find jewelry with a metal detector i don't know what it is my dad was always one of those guys i remember i'm like wow i love those guys that like he found a diamond ring when

we were on vacation and as a kid and we returned it to the people because he's a nice guy but and ever since that i was like wow but the thing is jesse my dad's a scuba diver right so he's found some beautiful things at the bottom of the ocean and i've always been like i've like you know when i'm the old guy i want to find stuff on the beach it's a good way to kill time so we're gonna wrap up here because i believe we have guests from the athletic coming on next but drew and stew is going to continue yeah yeah in the nfl off season you guys are gonna do some other sports so you can If you can bet on it, we're going to give you a taste of what our picks are. And if the Niners win the Super Bowl, me and Drew, you'll catch us.

And you know what? We'll buy one for you. We'll be at the bar celebrating. Because we're the only guys. Rounds on us. So we're going to get some golf, some NHL. Everything. Everything you want.

NFL draft, March Madness. Anything you can bet on. Yeah, we've got to bet on March Madness. 100%. For sure. All right. Everybody, round of applause for Drew and Stu. Thank you guys for coming out.

We appreciate it. And I believe next. Take Team McKinnon in the first game and Matthews in the second game parlayed to 3-1. That's what you got right now? No, Team McKinnon's winning the whole thing. All right, I believe we got... I believe next we have Down Goes Brown

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Great. Great. Our next panel is our panel of experts. To the furthest right, we have Sean McIndoe, down goes Brown, who you guys know. We have Mark Lazarus, both of the athletic. And Greg, are you coming out, Greg? Where's Greg? He's ordering.

Greg Wyshynski is ordering food. Come on, Greg. Yeah, there he is. hi hello thanks for showing up greg appreciate it buddy no problem so this is our experts all-star panel we wanted to uh we wanted to kind of talk to the guys that are covering this and and at you know sean when we talked backstage you kind of said you're kind of like me in the sense that you're usually like an all-star games boring kind of guy how have you found this weekend yeah i i typically hate the all-star uh weekend especially the games which haven't happened yet but i feel

like it's been okay it's like are we yeah like i'm feeling good these from the crowd yeah all right so here's the deal given where the nhl has set the bar like this is success like this is the draft bringing the draft back was was cool it wasn't maybe the draft we're all kind of hoping for you know they they sort of sanded some of the edges off of it uh i thought the skills last night was good i enjoyed it i thought that was pretty good except well no but you know what even kucherov like we're talking about it right yeah you need a villain you need a heel and we're talking on the way over like he's going to score six goals today and flip off the crowd it's going to be great tell me one memorable thing that happened at the all-star oh hold on can we get

mark's mic up it's not mark is it on let me see it is now oh perfect this is why you don't invite me to these things maybe one thing that happened at the skills competition last year in florida does anyone remember a single thing that happened yell it out yell it out i covered it and i don't remember any of it yeah there was a there was a dunk there was a dunk tank right right it was three hours long in the arena it was so excruciating they did three zambonis during the course the guys kept going in and out like the players were outside for three hours in their full gear to do take like one shot and make one pass yeah they hated it the fans hated it all these tape segments just went over like a lead balloon conor mcdavid's a genius man he fixed the skills competition yeah

he literally he fixed the skills competition they went himself it's like money laundering i don't know what money laundering looks like but pretty sure that's what happened last night but listen man if if i was back in like college and they're like greg write your own test i'm like sure I'll write my own test, absolutely. Especially if you're the smartest kid in the class by a mile. It turns out when you stop doing stupid gimmicks and everything and just be like, hey, which one of us is faster and better? Yeah, but by the seventh event where it was like,

which one of you has the most points for the eerie otters, I'm like, you know, there's something fishy going on here with the way this thing's set up. I will say, how many times do we need to see a guy stickhandle through a cone, through a little bridge, through a puck? We need to come up with some more skills. There's more skills to hockey than holding on to a puck, right? Right, right.

I think it was sort of like a play on, you know, every kid's got a demo tape now, right, that they threw up on YouTube and they send out to the teams. It kind of felt like that, didn't it? Like an and one tape for the NHL. Yeah, exactly. So I like the idea that it went back to basics, but I think that we need to come up with like a happy medium

between what was last night and a little bit more of like entertainment. Like there needs to be some more pyro and there needs to be some more neon lighting and, oh, I don't know, maybe explain what the hell's going on to the crowd. That's pretty good. More video reviews. Just like one of those, like, bad 90s CGI run-throughs on the Jumbotron that's like, and then they go to the cones, and then they shoot this. Like, that was missing last night.

And the biggest problem I had, did you guys watch it last night? Did you see the goalie event, which is probably the most entertaining thing they did last night? They had pucks that were worth one point and pucks that were worth two points. Everybody who's ever watched a rock and jock MTV thing or the NBA three-point competition does. Can you tell we're old? He just mentioned a rocket.

I know, it's great. I don't even know if we got that here. As you go up in value, the things change color. So you needed to differentiate between the one-point pucks and like the glowing or rainbow or, well, not rainbow, it's the NHL, but like the glowing or whatever other pucks to let you know that there's a difference in value. Right.

Now, Conor Bedard showing up. Mark, I wanted to know, you knew about this beforehand. Yeah. And so where is he at? Is he even able to talk? Like, where's his jaw at? He can talk. I mean, it's, you know, we've come a long way.

They don't really do the whole, like, wirier whole head shot unless, like, something really bad happens. He's been skating for a couple of weeks now. They won't let him take slap shots because anything that makes you, like, grit your teeth, so anything that requires, like, actual effort, he's not allowed to do. That's why, did you see how gingerly

he was making those passes last night? He wasn't even sending hard passes. I love that he can't do anything with effort, but they're like – he's like, can I go to the NHL All-Star Weekend? They're like, yeah. That's the perfect thing for him. I mean, for him, we were talking last night. He comes out there, and he's not doing anything the whole time, right? And he's just sitting on that big curved bench they had by the stage, and he was off by himself for like an hour and a half straight.

Nobody was talking to him. We're like, this poor kid. Nobody's talking to him. And then Sidney Crosby, the guy's hero, just kind of scooches over for a little bit and starts talking to him, and you could see this big smile come on his face. It's like you forget that he's a literal child. Yeah, yeah. Well, and Sid probably can relate because didn't he break his jaw too? He had the mumps.

He had the mumps. He had the mumps. I thought he broke his jaw. Same thing. Big swollen jaw, right? Yeah, he did. No, I think Sid was telling him you don't have to come. Like Sid infamously for a long time didn't come to the All-Star game.

Now sometimes it was injury and sometimes it was injury. But even now, like how impressive is it for Sid to just show up late? like he didn't you believe he was out there for the entire three hour he wasn't out there for the draft they had a child they had they hired a child to be Sidney Crosby no Sid like they Sid's ace this thing like he you know Ovechkin just doesn't come sometimes and Sid's like no I'll come but not for the full thing and that's like pulling rank in the right way right yeah right well and I don't know how much Sid owes the game anymore you know what I mean like I feel like there's a bit uh that that quote with Ovi where he was talking about you know I feel like the NHL sort

of left us behind and there are a new crop of superstars and maybe Sid doesn't feel like this isn't my burden anymore yeah maybe Kucherov hasn't done enough for the game anymore and and that's why they forced him to do that last night you guys have covered a lot of all-star games and I asked this of the crowd earlier have you ever seen anybody get booed at an all-star game ever in any sport i uh at an all-star game maybe not now i remember i was in ottawa in 2012 when they did the second draft i think it was the second time and i gotta tell you we all remember 2015 when the players got liquored up but the crowd in 2012 had been over served and they were any time a Leaf got picked,

they just booed the crowd. Speaking of liquored up. Yeah, the crowd was really over-served. They had a problem. Oh, hey, Greg. Cheers, everybody, by the way. And cheers to you, guy in a Brodeur jersey. I see you.

You've been seen. I honestly wondered if Toronto fans were going to remember that and give it to Brady Kachuk when he got picked, and there was nothing. It was like the Dom Draper, like, you know, I hate you. I don't think of you at all. Like, it was that exactly with the thing.

But, yeah, that's the worst I've heard. There's always boos. I mean, you know, during introductions today, there's going to be boos when, you know, David Pasternak gets a, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, Patrick Kane was booed at every All-Star game for, like, ten straight years. It's just what you do. You boo the guys you hate. Right, right.

Kucherov was booed for effort, though. That was a little bit different. Yeah, yeah. They turned on him mid-event. Yeah, I think they were open to him. Yeah. Right? He wasn't getting booed at first.

Well, Kucherov turned on himself a minute ago. He's like, oh, I'm doing badly. Now I have to make it look like I'm trying to do badly. Right. Right? So the NHL is following up this All-Star weekend with not doing it next year. I wanted to know what you guys thought of, first off, to the crowd. What do you guys think of this Four Nations Cup thing?

So you're boo on this. Okay, now here's what I've heard from people that I've talked to. if they wanted Sweden and Finland in. Sweden and Finland said, if you represent Russia in any way, we're not coming. Right. And so, okay, well,

okay, so there's a political situation there. There's a war there. Understand that. Why not six? Why not Germany? Why not Czechia? Like, why just these four? And is this going to work?

Because, well, I think part of it is timing. Like, one of the original ideas they had for the Four Nations Cup was to do games in Finland and Sweden. But they're trying to cram this into like a nine-day period so more teams makes it more complicated. Now, hold on here. You people that booed.

All right. The minute you guys see McDavid and Bedard and Crosby on the same line next year, you're just going to be clawing at your television just weeping at this thing for happening. It's going to be funny to know that. Tell me, who's your goalie? how are you going to win any tournaments with the goaltenders you have martin jones

i had to listen look i know i'm the ugly american here i had to listen for like two decades about canadian c team would beat you every other team well who is your goalie we got like the 11 best goalies in the world right now who's your goalie it's a good question i think people were throwing out binnington binnington hill uh montembeau uh kemper kemper kemper's other name they all have the same percentage in the 880s right now just so you know oh connor ingram connor ingram sean you don't seem excited about whenever whenever it's like putting me between the two americans by the way i know i know and whenever the americans get like over our skis on how good our team is and the goaltending it's like two things i come back to it's like one uh yeah the

canadians might not have our goaltending but they have the greatest assemblage of talent in the history of hockey. So that's something they can fall back on. But two, and this is for serious, I talked to Mike Modano once for a story about the Olympics. And he said, I'm like, well, you guys had talent back in like the 90s and stuff. Like, why couldn't you beat Canada all the time? They beat them that one time, Sean, but not all the time. And he said, because the Canadians, despite their incredible all-star talent, they knew how to play as a team. They knew how to check their egos. And you remember in the Olympics, Like, Tavares was like a fourth liner in the Olympics, right?

So it's like, that's the difference between the Americans and the Canadians. And that's the thing I'm looking for as an American is like, can Brady Kachuk be a checking line guy? And that's kind of going to be the point of demarcation between the Americans winning and losing. Is it true that in one of the Olympics, the Americans lost and then trashed their hotel rooms? Or was that just a Canadian rumor? Yeah, but in fairness, Roenick was on the team. Roenick was on the team. Was that what, 2002?

That was Nagano. That was Nagano, yeah. And that really happened. The first time they sent NHL players to the Olympics, the Americans, like, tried to burn their hotel down. The eagle flies wherever. Now, with the announcements yesterday, we've got World Cup and Olympics ideally every two years, which people have been asking for. How long have you guys wanted best on best, really? Like, it's overdue.

Do you believe them? because i i think as fans we can't be faulted for saying hey uh you've you've said this before yeah we've we've heard it before i i mean the fact that they did lock down the two years for the olympics you know they they didn't come out and say we're going to intend to i mean it was it was a little bit more ironclad but we know gary will get out of it if he can't if it's if the opportunity presents itself like remember a few weeks ago when he was like yeah we want to do it but uh the arena maybe isn't ready and you're like that right there he's doing it again he's he's opening the door i i man i've gotten burned for saying this about the nhl so many times but

they couldn't possibly be this dumb to screw this up right you poor sweet summer child what do you guys think you know what it's i answered my own question as i was saying yeah right we're we're screwed what do you think greg well the thing i loved about yesterday was like batman running around talking about like it's really important to our players and like what tipped you off when they negotiated it into the collective bargaining agreement to go to the olympics and you didn't let them like um no i i kind of believe this one because like the reason they didn't go to pyeongchang is they didn't care about that market and they didn't find it to be financially advantageous and they didn't want to go to

south korea the reason they didn't go to beijing is because they had to cancel a bunch of games for covid or postpone them and they legitimately needed time to make them up and they were worried about guys going over there and even the PA was worried about COVID at that point I'm not worried about this one because it's a European market that they care about and all of the people in the NHL would probably like to go to Italy and have a nice vacation oh is it nice there it's pretty nice there so I I am more optimistic that this is going to happen especially after yesterday that announcement I mean I I think it's going to happen I do I wanted to ask you because you have to remember also sorry is that please it's also now part of a larger plan because they want to do

olympics and world cup and olympics and world cups so it's now like not only are we sending our guys the olympics but we're also using it to make ourselves money with these world cups in between the olympics that we do so that's part of it too and you know what that's ultimately for the billionaires that own it that's the idea right um okay so we're just over halfway through the season I wanted to ask the three of you and you don't please don't say the Leafs because I know well you can but I want to know who your Stanley Cup pick right now is and I promise you we won't hold you to it who's the if you're going to pick a team today that has impressed you the most you're like all the way through I don't know how anybody stops those guys who would it be I I I entered

the season with Dallas as my pick and I'm sticking with Dallas I like the whole still I like Ottinger I like I like the whole I know that the west is going to be a bit of a goal you got to get through colorado you got to get through edmonton you got to get through vegas when they get their act together i'm sticking with dallas i like the makeup of their team i like their style of play and i think that's a team that's that's right to take that next step sean what do you think i i first of all i've never seen a season like this where there's legitimately 10 teams you could make a strong case and i'd be like yeah you know what i feel like i'm almost randomly picking i do a column every week i gotta pick like my make my stanley cup picks and i'm just like the difference

between not even being on the list and being first is is huge the last few weeks i've had colorado number one so i'll put i'll stick with them it's kind of a weak pick you know are you worried about their like that mckinnon line's unbelievable but after that it gets a little thinner yep are you worried or do you think they add we we gotta we got a month for them to add okay and uh you know i think we we sort of see from there and i mean it's it's probably gonna be the toughest division to get out of that is the one division where you gotta finish first Yeah, because you finished second and now it's, you know, it's Winnipeg, Dallas, Colorado, some combo with them. They got to play in the first round. No, you don't want any part of that.

You want to be playing Seattle or wherever in the in round one. Greg Wyshynski. That went so well for. Yeah. If you say the New Jersey Devils. No, I didn't pick the Devils. OK. But I do. I do think they're going to make the playoffs. But, you know, it'll be fine. i so i i picked the oilers before the season okay we got a couple and then and then things went poorly if you remember and everybody jumped off the bandwagon probably even you jumped off the bandwagon and it was just me and zach hyman on the bandwagon because he's a very optimistic boy and then things started to turn better and everybody came back on the bandwagon

And we were like, make room for all these people. And now it's got the momentum of a runaway freight train. They can't be beaten. So I'm sticking with the Oilers. Okay, all right. It's funny. I was just in Edmonton last week. And Edmonton being Edmonton,

they're still panicking during a 17-game win streak. They're like, yeah, we're winning, but we're not really dominating teams. And, you know, it's been a really tough stretch. And we're just not. Like, they have no idea how to handle prosperity in Edmonton. They only know how to be miserable. and you guys wouldn't know anything about that no not at all that's that's real conor mcdain

won a million dollars but couldn't beat georgia of energy okay so trade deadlines a month away who's gonna have the biggest one what team what team do you think is it could be one that's obvious i know calgary keeps talking about how they're gonna receive resign all their players but then they trade them who's that who's out there that's exciting that's a game to maybe genzel like this is the worst trade deadline i can ever remember Like Elias Lindholm, whoop-dee-freaking-do. He's like a pretty decent middle sixer. Like who is going to change their team fundamentally at this particular trade-off?

Well, how about the Ottawa Senators and Chris Tanev, everybody? Finally, the missing piece. Where's your Mark Stone type? Like there's nobody that could fundamentally change a team out that's available, right? Well, I mean, you're only saying that because franchise player Sean Monaghan's already off the mark. That's right. Any Jets fans here? No.

Any Canadiens fans here? Okay, we got some Canadiens fans in the back. They can't get here. There's no airport in Winnipeg. How hard did you laugh the first time you saw somebody say they were going to get a first-round pick for Sean Monaghan? You're just like, sure you are. And then a couple weeks later, it happens.

God bless the Montreal Canadiens and their asset expectation management. What do you think, Greg? They got two first-rounders for Monaghan. You couldn't even get that for Monaghan when he was Monaghan. Yeah. it's amazing so i'll give you a name how about this because i you know part of the reason the trade deadline sucks right now is because everybody's still kind of in it you know like even the devils and stuff so like so like as we start to see teams fade away and they start to

re reorient their plans and figure out what's happening for next season i've i've long said i think minnesota is going to be a sneaky seller at the deadline that was even before things kind of went sideways for them so what about flurry we have a flurry movie yeah i was gonna say it's It's going to be the goalies for me. You think so? Because there are, most times this time of year, you know, there's not really a reason to talk about goalies because the good teams all have goaltending.

And the teams that don't have goaltending are bad, so they're selling. Whereas this year you've got Toronto, Carolina, maybe Edmonton, New Jersey, good Stanley Cup caliber maybe teams that could upgrade and goal. So whether it's Fleury, I mean, Saros feels like a bit of a pipe dream. Maybe Markstrom, too, but... Okay, can I ask... Goalies don't get moved at the deadline, though. It's too hard for a goalie to adapt to a new team.

It takes... Like, if you do it now, maybe you have enough time, but, like, March 8th, you're a month out from the playoffs. Teams are very hesitant to add a new goalie. So do it now. Go ahead. They should do that more often. Like, kudos to the teams that have made moves, you know, Vancouver, Winnipeg.

But I've read about this. Like, we get told that, you know, you can't do it mid-season, and everyone points at Ryan Miller as the one that didn't work. There have been a lot of goalie trades mid-season that have worked out. Dwayne Rawlinson, Devin Dubnick, you go down the list.

There's guys like that. But it's a question of who's going to make it, and if one guy goes, let's say Carolina goes and gets a goalie tomorrow, a real goalie, does that then, does Toronto have to do it now? Does somebody else, or is that the one guy who goes off? I mean, that's the difference, I think, is that you have a lot of teams, like Carolina being one of them, the Devils being another, there's a few others, they're just like really, really good,

but the goaltending is, like, bottom third of the league. And so I agree with you. I think we're going to see goalies move just because you have so many contenders that need one. And I'll tell you right now, if I'm Nashville or even Calgary, and I'm going to trade, like, if Nashville is going to trade Starros, if Calgary is going to trade Markstrom, do it now. You don't wait. You're already seeing it, right?

Like, oh, you've got to wait until the summer. No, you do it now. You get two cup runs. Look at San Jose this time last year. We were talking about Eric Carlson. And, you know, do it now. No, no, we've got to wait until the summer. They didn't get anything for him in the summer.

No, they didn't. You've got to do it now when somebody's desperate. You've got to squeeze somebody. If Lindholm is worth what he's worth first and a bunch of prospects that seem to be pretty good, if Monaghan's worth a first-rounder, what's a goaltender? The names that you guys have thrown out, Marc-Andre Fleury, cup winner, tons of experience. 890 save percentage. 890 save percentage, which is the NHL norm, I guess, these days for good goalies.

You got UC Soros, who, I mean, I think Nashville, because they're in it, seems hard to believe that they would move off of him. Yeah, I agree with that. But if they did, you know, what's the price for that? Well, I mean, Soros gets a huge price. Yeah. I mean, he's arguably one of the top five goalies in the league. With Fleury, it could easily be a, hey, we'll do you a solid

so you can play in the playoffs. Yeah, we're looking at second rounders at best for most of these guys. Soros would be a huge haul. But goalies tend to get a lot. The Blackhawks have been dealing goalies at the deadline for a while now. You go back to Robin Leonard and Fleury, and it's almost always a second-round pick. It's like, we'll give you something, but nothing really good. Man, Robin Leonard. There's a name I've not heard in quite some time.

Hey, Mark, as Toronto fans, we want to know how you guys turned Peter Morazic back into a goalie. I tell you, if the Hawks wanted to put him on the market, if they didn't extend him, he was maybe the best goalie available in terms of how they're actually playing. It's hard to describe how actually good Marazic has been. Right. Because the Hawks still lose every game. But behind the worst team defense I've ever seen, he is keeping them within.

Look at what Arvid Soderblom is doing behind that same team. And then look what Marazic is doing. He's been really good. His groin hasn't fallen off yet. It's going really well. Except for Arvid Soderblom versus the Leafs, where he had the game of his life. Yes.

That was, of course. He has four wins in, I think, 35 career games, and two of them are against the Leafs this year. That's great, isn't it? Don't you love being Leaf fans? Aren't you all glad you're here? Yeah, yeah. All right, now, gentlemen, I'm going to let you go

because these guys all have to get down to the arena and cover the game. But I did want to do a couple of plugs here because I know you guys are really, you're jonesing to get down there. Mark and Sean are a big part of the Athletic Hockey Show, which has some exciting changes coming soon starting February 12th.

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And regular contributions from a friend of our show and huge Toronto favorite, Frankie Corrado. That's right. Now, Greg, you got your show, The Drop. Can you give that a plug, too? Because I was not given a script for that. Do you have a hockey podcast? No, I don't.

I was asking, am I Ryan Lambert right now? It's remarkable. I had no idea. Have you guys met? uh yeah so i do the drop with arto cow and actually tonight 6 30 uh you can find it on the nhl and esp on youtube we're doing a live post-game show which means that you can go and leave your comments and tell us how you felt about the weekend which is going to be hilarious because we're a rights holder and we'll have to read them on the air so uh no it's it's it's been

fun like it's a it's a for those who don't know it's a podcast but also a digital show so we've been able to really kind of like do some weird inventive stuff on YouTube where nobody is watching it. Uh, I mean like people are watching it, but not like our bosses. Uh, so, so it's been fun. Awesome. Hey, Mark Lazarus, Sean McIndoe, AKA down, down goes brow. Greg Wyshynski. Thank you for your time today, guys. Just give us a couple minutes. Chris Johnson, Julian McKenzie up next. Two in five Canadians will hear the words, you have cancer. That's why every step and dollar raised matters. On September 19th, join thousands in Toronto for the Princess Margaret Cancer Foundation Walk. Challenge yourself, friends, and family to walk 21 kilometers in

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it's one good for you hey everyone julian mckenzie and chris johnson the cj show and i'm gonna ask them what's going on each individual player on the leafs roster starting with connor timmons so no boys first and foremost who should be the ninth defenseman I you know it's a great let's do a power rankings right now okay I feel not qualified for this conversation oh we'll get to the flames oh boy don't you worry we'll get to the flame oh that'll be fine no so you know what uh last night I know Nikita Kucherov was getting a lot of heat yeah but you were one of the many who were talking about how much better I got a fisherman's friend in my mouth i'll chew it up real quick they're talking about halls going right now i probably

should take a halls Ontario in February it is what it is um but you're one of the many who said you know what the skills competition is actually pretty good yeah so what was your favorite part about it the one-on-one part was my favorite part i think i i tweeted i think the NHL found its equivalent of the NBA three-point contest like i love the idea of players going one-on-one of the goalie they call out the goalie that they think they get the most goals on like that's fun like that's a really good dramatic like amazing event idea like it was genius like I was live blogging with uh Mark Lazarus for the athletic on that and like both of us were just like raving about it Sean McIndoo as well like everyone we had up there was just like losing their minds over

that was my favorite part about it what about you I think it was actually entertaining all around I watched the first half in the press box, and the second half I went and joined a friend in the crowd. You had fun. You were enjoying it. No, but I was having fun in the press box, too. Yeah, in the press box. You were actively enjoying it. There were kids.

People were excited about it. Again, I don't know how it looked on TV because I didn't get a chance to watch it, but in the building it was 70 million thousand times better than any other skills I'd been to. It flat out sucked last year in Florida. like it was I felt awkward just being in the building and I wasn't participating and so to actually see the guys try and you know I think they made a lot of big steps this year so it was good yeah I mean you know it's funny I was like was it really that much better than last year and then dude go I had to I went back and watch last year too it's so bad if you gave me five minutes and a million dollars prize money I couldn't have told you it was in Florida

the only thing that would have tipped me off is the jerseys what about the the dunk tanks portion of it from last year buddy you you could be making that up what about the laser tag part of it i don't remember that either the mini golf challenge yeah the contest that uh remember nick suzuki won like a year of chipotle but it was actually like 52 gift cards yeah that that's a real story and there's no chipotle in montreal 52 gift cards julian there's no chipotle in montreal exactly that's a big thing too like no shot no absolutely no crazy cj yesterday uh i think you ran here um because uh gary went long yes yes and we always love getting you at the uh end of a press conference because you tend to spill the tea now that you've actually slept on

it uh what were your takeaways from all of the three hour long or whatever it was tea spilling from gare bear his preferred nickname well like i don't know how interested anyone is in how the sausage is made but generally speaking when gary does those availabilities like before the stanley cup final he always does it before game one obviously the all-star game various times through the year there's sort of a set amount of time and often that amount of time will only allow that anyone in the audience that might want to ask a question a reporter usually might get one maybe a follow-up but certainly not multiple questions just because there isn't enough time and everyone's asking different things and anyway it feels very controlled what's interesting yesterday is i was

trying to think like they literally would have sat there another hour like they they made the decision and i'm guessing it's because of some of the subject matter that they were not cutting it off they weren't going to limit it they weren't going to give any impression they were in a rush to get out of there and so i don't actually know how long it was but it was it was really long i mean they announced they're going to the olympics you know they got multiple people on stage then they bring up four players and talk about the four four nations face off yes and then is that the name of it yes i had to really think about it it's really it's the other one can we just call it that it's the other one that other thing it's not the olympics it's the other one yeah so the other

one and then it was gary and bill and i don't know it was probably 40 minutes so when you added that all up it was there was a lot to digest and yeah i mean i know a lot of people were talking about robin doolittle from the globe mail who's reported a lot on the sexual assault case involving the 2018 world junior team she probably asked 10 or 12 questions i didn't again good i yeah no and i'm saying that's great but i i don't recall having been at an nhl event where that would be possible on any subject that that one person and obviously she wasn't the only one asking those types of questions too so there was maybe 20 questions related to subject matter of all of that so it was you're right it was it was a lot going on there i didn't sense the league was

trying to hide from it there's only so much they can say and you know all in all I actually thought it was pretty good productive for doing the job that I do but again I don't know how it looked from the outside so I'm gonna make you do the job that you do with like the hockey insider and everything but you're not just hockey so I want to know because man nothing gets CJ worked up nothing gets him worked up more than I can't decide if it's the Blue Jays or the Cowboys So, what makes you most raving, lunatic, unreasonable? Me. What makes you most me?

Is it the Jays or the Cowboys? It's definitely the Blue Jays. Yeah? Like, I love the Cowboys, but it's a different investment, right? 17-game regular season, and I know they're always going to lose as soon as the playoffs start. So, it's like, it's 18 games. And, you know, because of the nature of my work, I might have to miss two or three. So it's just, it's not the same as all bloody summer.

I'm watching the Jays and getting sucked in and getting excited and spending too much money on tickets and then watching the playoffs start and having the absolute joke of a front office pull a pitcher who is dominating a game in Minnesota, hypothetically speaking. Allegedly. That, so the Jays drive me the most crazy. I've also, seriously, the Jays, like I loved the Jays when I was like six years old and I have got a lot of photos to prove it. and so you know how many things do you carry through your whole life i guess for you this

might be leaf fandom but you know the cowboys i kind of get into a little bit more in high school but like the jays was kind of my og team too so and i've never you know it's it's great to go to a game here i've lived downtown toronto the last 20 years so um you know i go to a lot of games invest a lot of time and money and frustration so i know i know drew and stew and jesse they all have their get rich quick schemes like do you know what i didn't mention i spent about two grand on tickets the day that i thought otani was signing that's what i was just about to ask you my god you dropped two grand on the otani bump did you sell high i sold one pair high on the same day okay but i'm i've still got like all these premium seats to like seven jays games it'll be me and

There'll be me and five others there next summer. Are you going to go to the Jays-Dodgers game when he shows up? No. Games? I'm not mad at him, honestly. He had the choice. I'm mad at the misreporting. That's what I'm mad at.

And I don't know how that happened. I don't know if an agent screwed over the reporter or some broken telephone or what. But I got totally sucked in. And it's my job to do this stuff. I mean, not that I have any baseball-related contacts, but, man, that sucked. I feel for it, man. I feel for John Paul Marossi, man. Like, that sucks.

That's going to follow him for the rest of his career. Yeah, and we can all make mistakes. That was a big, bloody mistake. Like, it's our job not to be wrong. It's the biggest mistake of his career. About the biggest free agent in your sports history flying to a city when he's sitting with his dog in L.A. So, like, yeah, I feel bad,

because definitely I've made mistakes, and I will be the first to put my hand up, and you can probably find them on the Internet right now. But I have not made that mistake. But he's not the only one who messed up, too. There are a lot of people spreading, like, videos of Shohei landing at the airport. Like, somebody put out a tweet saying that there was, like, a press conference on the, like, the Friday at, like, 6. There are a lot of people who spread a lot of misinformation. Imagine Conor McDavid ever becomes a free agent. And I'm not saying he will. I have no idea.

If you're reporting on that story in our sport, you would be damn sure anything you said, if you wanted to maintain your credibility, was right. because obviously if that would be a huge event in hockey if it happened i mean in hockey the reality is we all know we don't get the best players very often becoming free agents in their prime the way otani is but i'm just saying you can't you don't want a batting average doing what we do but you really don't want a batting average on that big of a story it's better to be right than and i like john i should be fair like i actually know him personally but i yeah he cost me two grand so i'm pissed it's better to be right than first what's the closest you've ever come to an otani on the plane moment oh i want to know this oh man what do you mean like a story that i

was going to get wrong and i somehow didn't or you're about to hit send on the tweet and it didn't didn't happen just doesn't happen people people were wrong about the aginla trade back in the day they were aaron ward what was your you don't have an aaron ward moment no but you can get away with it when you're a player right aaron ward has earned his spot on those sort of panels because he played whatever he won the stanley cup like i'm i'm some dude from coburg man that i'm only there not to be wrong about information as much as possible i don't remember my the worst one honestly it's like you bury that stuff away because it's like that's the sort of stuff that would keep you up at night i was wrong

this isn't even that big a deal but i remember being gutted about it when the pandemic hit and they were planning that 2020 tournament i incorrectly reported that vegas was going to be one of the cities i had toronto and vegas and obviously being toronto and edmonton that's because it changed last minute so it wasn't like that I was dead wrong but I was anyway whatever I wrote was wrong and I hated that feeling but that that didn't change anyone's life I don't think no one spent two grand on a trip to Vegas because I did that I think the people still love you yeah wow there you go now I I had an idea and I'm gonna gonna put you to work insider so do you know what I just thought of something because it's all-star related

Probably my biggest career screw-up happened at an All-Star game. So it's not really the spirit of your question, but I just... I actually had a weird flashback to this last night. I don't know why. Someone was texting me about this night. So the Columbus All-Star game... Have you been to Columbus, by the way? I have, yes.

Very quaint, like really nice, smallish downtown for a city. Underrated. Yeah, no, it's great. Very underrated. But there's nowhere to hide, right? It's not Toronto. like like when the all-star game comes there and you got whatever 25 players their families the agents team officials reporters like everybody was just like in a playpen together the whole time

and the night of the game we went to this bar I think it was called like 23 or red 23 and all of a sudden like someone pulls back a curtain just like throws me in a very small room like as small as these rooms here and it is like all the players and in one like I'm talking like I I've never been in like obviously we're around these guys socially but everybody was going crazy uh actually Jonathan Duran was there I think they had like a young stars portion of that at that time and he literally just kept ordering beers to our table until the table was like overfilled like he was just having fun with us and we weren't saying no to his generosity and we were there to like 5 a.m anyway I'm not gonna because it's not a spot to like I don't

want to put the spotlight on any particular NHL players but it was it was wild and so I was working at SportsCenter at the time and for anyone who's tried to fly to Columbus from Toronto there are not many flights and so SportsCenter actually chartered a plane because so many you know behind the scenes people were on it and I was didn't show up to the bus for the chartered plane little little heartbeat in the head dude and i was i mean not that i'm senior now but i was way more junior employee at this time like i i was the fourth line left winger holding up the charter bus essentially and the plane and so someone a good friend still a friend of this day that works there gives me a call and i wake up and i'm like oh my god it's nine o'clock bus or

whatever and it's 9 12 and my clothes are all over my room and so i just like packed up and i had to walk on the bus like by all the bosses and then we drive to the airport and like people board the plane and i'm like gotta walk by all the bosses to my seat and i got a call from the big boss like an hour after we landed and he's like we really like you you do a great job for us but you don't there won't be a second chance like if that happens again you're done cool man anyway i don't know why i told that story but i have not missed anything since oh my god my wife was in the car for this one um a lot of people sorry if you just heard that story for the first time dad no no no there's there's there's um a question i get often asked and that's where did where did hockey night

in cinema go and this is like it was the live event that we used to do uh we used to do before covid in the before time in the long long ago and uh it was really popular and people loved it and they showed up and it stopped on a dime and the reason is because we were driving home from the one in london and i got a call from my boss's boss's boss's boss's very bald boss did you even have his number on your phone or was he such a big boss it just shows up like 416 you're like for some reason i had it i think it's because i was doing the behind the scenes uh prep sheet for the whole company like i don't have the president of tsn's number in my phone you don't no well i'll give it to you after the show um and uh it was basically uh so it's called

hockey night in cinema huh and they did not appreciate that one bit and it was made very clear to me that i may or may not be unemployed if we ever did another one so we've come up with some other names and other ideas and we will try those instead did you have other ones booked that you had to cancel no but we were like we had just done this huge one in a theater in london we said hi to people and took pictures after for like over an hour and we're like this is incredible we're gonna do these all over the place and that was the last one how about you Julian have you ever been fired from a job or almost you want to spill uh the closest story I could think of I want to say it was like 2015 so I was probably still in school at that point I got

invited uh to this uh Irish society ball this friend of mine was like the queen of the same I've never heard those three words in sequence yeah it's really weird Irish society yeah it's a really big deal. It was a big deal in Montreal and basically it's like a little ball that they have preceding the St. Patrick's Day parade where the queen of the parade is like coronated, like get a coronation and all that

and the Were you on mushrooms? Trust me, trust me on this one, there's a story. There's a story to this. I was there Were you on mushrooms? I was not on mushrooms. I was there because the queen that year was like, I was their date

and the mayor of the city at the time, Denis Coderre, is there. And, like, I see him, I'm like, oh, my God, look, it's Denis Coderre. Like, I'm taking, like, a photo with him and everything. And in 2015, at that time, that was still when people were wondering when baseball would be coming back to Montreal.

So Denis, obviously, is, like, a big, like, advocate for baseball. He wants baseball to come back. I just go to him, I'm like, yo, man, so when's baseball coming back? He's all like, I'm trying to get a team in, like, 5, 10 years. I'm like, whoa. And, like, me in, like, university, I'm like, this is awesome like this is so cool i'm gonna go to my friends and tweet about it

all these like tsn radio people start retweeting it people start dming me took within like five ten minutes for it they need to be like yeah you need to take that down oh yeah that was that was not good boss's boss's boss i mean the mayor of the damn city he's got to own that though i mean like i wasn't there as a journalist i was there as you know you didn't report it as a journalist you were

as a citizen of Montreal you just threw that yeah but like I was still putting his business out there like I know now not to like

put that out there was a good lesson for me I that's hockey in this country man like I was doing a junior hockey show

I've told this story before when John Tavares got traded from the Oshawa Generals to the London Knights it was my job who booed

you're booing the London Knights right okay just making sure no they're booing John Tavares how dare you how dare you that man makes a lot of money anyway listen so he gets traded and i had

written a whole script for our show he gets traded crumple that up throw it out we're doing a whole new show and i called everyone i could from the oshawa generals nothing radio silence i called bye benji we called everyone we could from the london knights no answer from anybody on a whim i called the mayor of oshawa wow first ring john gray and he talked about what john tavarez meant to the city of oshawa like yeah it's that's hockey did she confirm it for you then essentially or uh or was it already confirmed no no it was already confirmed but like we needed you need a reaction we needed sound bites i ended up getting like calvin dahan who was like so depressed because he's like well i guess we're not winning the mem cup this year

and uh i got him and i got the mayor of the city of oshawa that was all i was able to get so that's that's my big insider break there with durham region i want to do something i want to do something here okay sorry that was a big tangent i want to do something here so famously uh a writer named ecklund uh an insider named ecklund yeah had the e5 duane yeah is that his name duane i did not know that i think i don't know that's probably in a folder back there i might be right i think so i met him back in the day i used to be around these events but i haven't seen him in years you know what he looks like i know what he looks like whoa smart insider man whoa what about hockey insider remember hockey insider i don't know real ones know who hockey insider is real ones know no what

i'm saying is i don't know who the person is no but that's it like no one ever knew who that was but my real ones know about the lore of hockey insider he wasn't dedicated to the truth like smart insider man he was ready to get to the bottom of it so there was e1 to e5 then smart insider man comes along and he's he's the beacon of truth and he had sim 1 to sim 8 i want to ask everyone to name players and we're going to decide whether or not they get traded on the cj1 to cj8 scale eight i like this eight it's got to be eight because there's three more levels of truth right or do you want to do five no it's i can handle this scale we're gonna do eight you're breaking brains up here come on so you're a reporter too i'm gonna give you the option it's

not like a steal but he'll throw out a number you can either throw out your own number or you can just say minus one or plus one okay to the scale do i just do it for all of them or just like for certain ones certain ones sure if you want to jump in sure so do we have a name hannifin that's a cj4 cj4 interesting so that's about halfway do you want to jump in there he's scrunching he's thinking i'll stay i'll stay at four wow i'll stay interesting anyone tyler bertuzzi that's a fascinating one cj2 cj2 all right a little cold on that one david airs cj

whoa love you david i don't know if he's here today uc sorrows cj5 cj5 east or west east they're east that's east east thank you Colton Pareko CJ2 don't think he's getting traded

Jacob Chikrin CJ6 CJ6 Brett the Hitman Hart Marc-Andre Fleury is Alan here? Alan is not here give us all the levels of truth

here okay here's the deal with Marc-Andre Fleury so he would not hedging it's this is why I don't know what number to assign he wants to go somewhere where he's going to play versus go to be the backup and so presumably it's got to be a playoff like how many playoff teams are going to trade for him and play him right now I just I don't think it's that high it's Carolina CJ I'll go five I mean, Minnesota's not... In general or to Carolina? No, no, sorry, general.

Oh, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, they're going to get it. No, you gave me food. I'm like, I'm triangulating this. I'm like, okay, CJ5. Because Minnesota's not going anywhere. His career, you know, he's year to year at this age. We're all year to year, but he's truly year to year.

And I just don't know if someone's going to need him that bad and want to trade for him. That's all. Especially with all those goalies available, too. I mean, do you want to go for Marc-Andre Fleury? Would you rather go for... I mean, Minnesota traded for him under the same circumstances two years ago. You know what?

I'm going to do one. Nick Robertson. Right? It's always about the Leafs, Steve. Yeah, correct. Correct. Could be about the Peterborough Peets. Maybe I'm just really into them.

Great defenseman. CJ5. CJ5. Habs guy. Jake Allen. CJ7. Yeah. That guy is very quickly becoming the dragons in Game of Thrones.

I'm just like, it's not... Just shit or get off the pot. Vladimir Tarasenko. CJ8! Let's go! CJ8. Everyone's getting into it now. Devils.

John Gibson. this is a hard one good sorry to disappoint cj3 trevor's egress cj1 oh what just because he got injured let's talk about hey if we're doing this for the draft or like the off season so cj7 mitch mitch marner damn cj zero cj zero zero chance they're moving this is for the deadline right no not at this trade okay off season oh i don't have a crystal ball steve you don't how the hell do you get all your scoops i will say this find a dollar for every time you said you didn't have a crystal ball i could buy you one well seriously we spend too much time together yeah we do you only have no everybody only has so many

lines right um here's the problem i think what happens in the playoffs matters significantly with where that goes so i i don't know what's gonna happen do you yeah they're gonna win the cup I think maybe maybe Sean Walker CJ 7 7 but save it till March 8th or we're gonna be bored Matthew nice CJ 0 no chance you can buy a nice jersey it's gonna be safe for a couple years Great. Pierre-Loup Dubois. No one taking that contract. Under these circumstances.

No chance. CJ Zero. Okay. Travis Konechny. Philly would do just about anything. Philly's kind of like the chaos agents of this deadline, I think. Aren't they still second in the division? They could do anything.

And they're like selling maybe? I don't know. I feel like John Tortorella, like, there's too much talent. We got, I want more grunts. CJ Four for Konekny. Okay, all-star Travis Konekny. Ilya Samsonov, that's a fascinating one. CJ, he passed through waivers.

Yeah. CJ won. Yeah, but then he had four good games. Oh. He's back. I have five minutes left. I'm like, yes, you in the back. All right.

All right. martin jones that's a really interesting one too cj3 not impossible but okay boone jenner they don't want to trade them that's not what i asked you cj5 wait wait wait five but They don't want to trade him? Well, have you seen their record? I mean, it's good. That's why their GM still has the job. Have you seen who's available in this?

Like, he's in demand just because he's useful, he doesn't make too much money, and there's not a lot of players. So they're going to keep getting calls, and someone might push it over the line. Kessel's signing. Kessel's signing. Oh.

CJ. 81. Okay. Seven. I do think it's likely. He will play anywhere. That's the difference. Chicago?

Well, I don't know. Everyone might have a limit. That's somewhere. It's somewhere. But he really wants to play, so I think it's likely. Loves the game. Someone in the back said TJ Brody. Traded?

Traded, yeah. CJ, three. Three? Sorry, I know you want spicy leaf steaks over here, Steve. I could just see the glint in your eye. You gave us a couple eights. Yes. Adam Henrique.

C.J. Eight. C.J. Eight. I'm losing my voice. Whoa. Right there. Dan Vladar.

You're in. I got you. Can we give this a J.M.? Ooh. I love the Julian scrunch. Like, he's digging deep. He's thinking, like, is Craig Conroy listening to this? I hope he is.

I'll say JM5. JM5. I'll say this, because someone keeps asking for Jacob Markstrom. Oh, sorry. Unless they get something, I would put the rating higher for Verlarde than Markstrom. I'd do, like, a JM4. I'm not going to adjust his marks. I like where his brain's at.

Who is calling me while I am on? I'm getting texts up here, too. I think I'm running late. Are we, like, all getting texts now? All right. One for my dad. One more Buffalo. Timothy Lilligren.

Damn. Nah, CJ won. CJ won. Boys, we have taken so much of your time this weekend. You guys are absolute legends. Let's give a big round of applause for Julian McKenzie and Chris Johnston. Thank you. Have you had fun?

I'm just going to move this chair off stage. Steve, if you can move over in the Dr. Evil chair, just one more. Okay, or I can sit in the center. So I hope you guys have had a great time. Guys, if we need a microphone up here, I'm just throwing it here. We've really enjoyed having you guys here because this is, it's been an unbelievable event to put together, and the truth about it is Steve and Jesse and I didn't do any of that.

the guy that really spearheaded this for SDPN is Justin Fisher and I want to shout him out because he did an amazing amazing job I want to thank Robert Malloy who's doing merch and social media I want to thank Maddie who's over there too and Maddie's going to be doing your questions

because we're going to do a little press conference here just thought that would be a fun way to wrap it up and I also want to thank producer Drew who I didn't thank last night but he deserved it didn't he That's right. Let's thank him the only way we know how.

Boo! So, yeah, you come over to the center here a little bit. So, we've got, okay, so who's heading to the All-Star game? Because we're going to wrap this before you guys have to go. Okay, lots of people. That's good. How far over are you coming? I just wanted to.

I'm just being a dick. All right. Now, one person that I want to shout out who is here today from our Formula One show, Nailing the Apex, is Tim Haraney. Tim! There's Tim. Yeah! So if you ever had any questions about racing a car, he's the guy to talk to you today.

Now, Tim, can we hear you? Hey, Tim. Hi, guys. So, Tim, there was some rather big news a day and a half ago about Lewis Hamilton. There was. Now, Tim got a text message at 4 a.m. from one of his sources going, buckle up. 3.27. Oh, it was at 3.27?

Yeah, Jesse's got it. It's 3.27 a.m. Okay. So for anybody that doesn't understand or doesn't realize the significance of this, it's, you know, it'd be Wayne Gretzky to the Leafs. It's Michael Jordan if he went to the Lakers. It's a big, big deal. Yeah.

Why? It's huge. I mean, he's like the biggest, one of the biggest athletes in the world, right? Right. And another part of all that, I mean, he's a seven-time Formula One world champion. Like, he owns every single, like, almost every single record in the Formula One record books. Now, we need you to get that microphone a little closer to you so we can hear you. Oh, sorry, guys.

Oh, there we go. Beautiful. I got to learn how to use this now Tim because we're all used to a salary cap world in hockey Yeah, what's the approximate amount of money that this guy is gonna make racing for Ferrari approximately? That's a great question I mean there is like rumors floating around out there that he's gonna be making like a hundred million dollars a year and That's not including like sponsorship deals more than the NHL sellers. Yeah, that's the rumor so it's not official right, but I mean I mean, sky's the limit, I think, when you're dealing with Ferrari. Yeah.

And they really wanted him, so they're just backing that Brinks truck up. Has McDavid made 100 mil in his career? Not yet. Not yet. Not yet. He signed a 100 mil deal, but he's not at the end of it. No. Wow.

We really do a show about, like, pickleball, basically. Hey, don't disrespect pickleball. Yeah. The elderly love it. Tim likes pickleball. That's actually, like, that's really interesting when we talk about salary cap and everything like that like what is the max like an nhl player can make 80 oh the max an nhl player it's like 16 no one's come close matthews is gonna make 13 and a quarter next year see to me that's like

they he should be way making way more than that oh he should like way more they just have to care and want to do that they have to yeah they have to push that so i don't i don't know how much overlap there is in your fandom do you know who gary betman is oh yeah he's No one's on the fence. Yeah, I can see that. Hey, any Gary Bettman supporters here? Wow! I thought I'd at least get one guy

who would go, yeah! Are you a Gary Bettman supporter? I was saying Boo-erns. I was saying Boo-erns. So, Tim, quick, I'm going to throw you on the spot and then we're going to take some questions from the audience. Who are your top three teams

going into this year for anybody that has you know drive to survive is coming out soon tim's show is back we're ready to go what do we got who are your top three teams maybe in drive to survive oh maybe tim tim was in drive to survive last year maybe yeah so we may maybe in it again because you were you were filming with zach brown from mclaren yeah we were doing a we were doing a podcast and the people from drive to survive came up and they're like hey can we shoot this and mic you guys up and i'm like yeah sure go for it so it could be in there it may not I have no idea, but yeah. Okay, top three teams.

Okay, so coming into the season, I like McLaren. I do. I like what they're doing. Who would? Who would? Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. Thank you. I'd say McLaren, Red Bull Racing, and Ferrari.

And maybe Mercedes. Like, maybe Mercedes. We'll see what's going on there. And the Leafs, am I right? Yeah. All right, so Maddie is going to be waking her way around with the microphone to do some questions. It's Tim Horaney, everybody, from Daily Mail Facts.

It's a great show, and there's not a single person in this country that is more connected to the F1 or IndyCar paddock than this guy. He knows about this stuff before it happens. If there was a Chris Johnson of F1 in North America, that's the guy. So if you're interested, you should check it out. Now, Matty, where are you? Raise your hand. Oh, you're right there.

Hi, Matty. Okay, are you going out? We're going to do some questions. If you have a question, ask us. All right. Yeah, Maddie, listen, how do we get Maddie's attention? Can you, Merrick Malik, Merrick Malik over here. Right here, Maddie.

Oh, are we, okay, we're a little partial with the Rangers. He's only an Olympian, 2003-2004 Bud Light plus minus winner, who's a legit player, Adam, I'm sorry. I just want to say congratulations on 100K. Thank you. Thank you. Where is the silver button going to go? oh yeah

because you get like a plaque for passing 100,000 on YouTube like we don't I don't think we'll put it

in the studio there's not really a place on set to put it yeah in the basement who just said that oh yeah

give it to Marilyn yeah yeah because Marilyn doesn't need more awards she has enough Gemini's

yeah 100% yeah I think she'd be like what is this what is it what is it that you do again um so yeah no i don't i don't know i i don't even think we got the email from youtube about it because you get like an email and you get like a pin code and i don't even think we filled it out yet no not yet definitely not yeah no it probably it literally is the fact that you said basement is kind of weird because it should go in our basement right the the boardroom there in the basement that's probably a good point or maybe

the opener yeah i think maybe i lost it it's back uh i think maybe uh maybe it's like the front door so we could show off we can big wheel everybody you know what i mean it'll make us more robbable yeah i think so too i think that's great maddie where are you now here sorry over here okay who are we talking to oh what's up man hey all right here we go this is sam yeah hey guys everybody say hi sam hi sam hi sam and i remember that pentacle pizza first that first pentacle pizza podcast episode jesse was just brand new yeah yeah and i miss those hockey night cinemas oh hockey night cinema was good it was after the first one there the first one you guys did was mitch marner's debut that was the game where he scored his debut his my parents were in the

bathroom he meant they missed the ball or his mom was in the bathroom i uh i liked getting paid too much we we had to stop doing them i think we can tell the story now yeah oh i did did you yeah i think you were in there oh okay i was eating wings you didn't tell the suing story i got a very big scary call from someone who threatened a big scary fire me yeah yeah and then we stopped yeah that was great that was great what's your question sam so my question is about austin matthews and potentially being the captain when do you guys think of happening because i remember last year you guys were talking about when he signs his extension he'll get the c but do you think the Leafs are just too afraid to strip the seed from Tavares? I don't think they're afraid. I've been

on the Austin Matthews should have been captain last year. I said it. And I think you've seen it work in San Jose. San Jose is the, I think the, I mean, that's a team that should have won the cup, never did, but they had great players. You had Pavelski, you had Thornton, you had Marleau. All those guys could have been captain. Brent Burns, Mark Edward Vlasic had his time. Like they were, they were a fantastic team. I think what happens, my personal opinion this summer is that um, Austin becomes captain. Uh, John gets the assistant and I think it is a passing of the torch. We're going into John Tavares' last year. He's been a great captain. He really has, right? He's been a great captain, but it's weird when you see, so the Leafs posted a picture on Instagram

last night and I think it was, it was McDavid's jersey. It was somebody else. Uh, and then it was Matthews and the only one without the C is Matthews and it was McKinnon. Yeah. So, so I'm like you know i think it's time this is his team and i i just i feel like taking the c away from john tavaris i don't think that's going to bug him you want to know how to do it how do you do it because you said stripped like i don't think it's stripped you want it to be a passing of the torch so if i'm not mistaken last year is the last year of tavaris's deal right yeah so he's got one year left that means he can sign an extension a year out which i believe is july 1st of this year correct at some point this offseason before the season begins you can announce on the same day

a john tavaris extension and he can issue some sort of release record a video whatever it is i hope he records a video handing this hey everyone there we go we got it i'm really excited i'm just sitting here with my my what's his cake thing is kale? No, he's got a keg of what? He's got kombucha. Oh, I'm just here with my kombucha keg at the cottage. Get it right. What's your memory in Etch-A-Sketch?

So, it's been an honour to be the captain of your Toronto Maple Leafs, John Tavares. I'm still going to be John Tavares, but I will no longer be the captain of your Toronto Maple Leafs. I'm still staying here on the Toronto Maple Leafs, though, but I'm handing

the C over to Austin. Austin, take it away. And then he flies in, his hair and dangly earring blowing in the wind. And he dons his new sea jersey. And John's the one that helps it on. Like, helps him put it on or something like that. No, he just awkwardly walks off stage and shovels his driveway. Okay, all right.

Jess? Am I wrong for thinking that Austin Matthews hasn't earned the right to be captain yet? Yes. Like, I don't think he's done anything to earn it. What do you want to see then? What do you want to see? Yeah, Boone is man. I don't think captain is just you're the best player on the team.

You don't just become captain because you're the most skilled player. I think when they gave John Tavares the captaincy, Austin Matthews was coming off of a month where he had a scandal in Arizona. And he didn't tell the president of the organization that this was coming down. And he didn't earn the captaincy there. And in that time, on the ice, they haven't won much. And when they did win, John Tavares scored the OT goal. and what Austin Matthews

has done is individual accomplishments but I haven't heard the like locker room talk about him being the leader or anything in that regard

and I think they still all looked at JT as their dad you know and I think the dad in the room should be the captain so until John Tavares

decides to take a step back from that role on the team which I think should be his decision I don't think you just give it to Austin because he's the best player

thank you for your kind words Jesse Blake I appreciate that and I will stay the captain of your Toronto Maple Leafs for as long as I can thank you John I appreciate that Maddie who do we have all right Adam we got another Adam over here oh great name great name Adam what's going on great name too bud um with the nation's tournaments do you think they should limit each roster to 15 and then draft the remaining countries like players so you can

have like dry sidle uh pass or not playing all these guys from germany playing as well so you can have like stutzler matthews and uh to chuck or even uh dry sidle uh yeah but dave all right that is a sick idea it's a sick idea there's one hitch in the giddy up that we got to figure out well that's always that's it's always there i love that you said gary betman and not what jersey do they wear right like they're playing for that team right i know but i don't think that leon drysad was like man i can't wait to put on a finland jersey he's no he's canada now yeah he's yeah no he's canada now we took it's like he got and then if you get hit into the boards like hit into the bench during the tournament then you got to play for that country

but you gotta like sing the anthem sign the papers and then you can join in like the next period yeah i think this is adam i think it's a good question you want to get the stars involved it's weird that the germans especially and the czechs won't be involved but i i do think that you if you're putting on your country's jersey you gotta be from that country yeah you just do yeah would a team of everybody else be the favorite to win so if you had a fifth team of everybody else who's not in the four countries do you think they would be the favorite so you got you'd have russia you'd have czech you'd have uh germany i mean yeah i think they're pretty good i don't know if they're going to be favored over united states is goaltending and goal scoring are crazy russian goaltending

is very good but the thing is like and like i said earlier there's no way like this is all fantasy because there's no way that russians are going to be allowed to participate otherwise sweden finland said we're out we're not doing it so um if if that team were to come together the goaltending for russia would be great the crazy per 60 with malkin and kucherov on the same roster would be crazy and awesome they were the favorites to win and then they both decided to decapitate people it was just a meltdown themselves they're lunatics it's a shame they won't be involved it really is it really is you know it's funny russian goaltending used to be an insult they used to have nikolai happy bullet and that's it yeah pretty much and then like nabokov and a few

guys started to show up but there there wasn't really anyone and now it's the factory like every every six seven years they change who the factory was it was finland now it's russia it'd be nice if it was canada again soon uh but it's not like within the year within the year maddie where are you now over here okay over on the on the left here okay we have miranda here go for it hello have y'all been watching watch pwhl and if so who's your pick to win not the isabel cup i don't know what they're doing i don't know if they know yet but who's your pick pick to win yeah like i don't know if it's the isabel cup still because that was a different so this i didn't know about this rule until recently and i think it was a kyle cushman that was tweeting about it but like

mid-season they can just cut a bunch of people and sign a bunch of new ones so what makes the pwhl interesting is like oh you sign this contract but if you don't perform there's an out clause midway through the year and that makes things scary for the players and i understand that's not that's you know that's in the league's favor it's not great but it's also from a fan perspective kind of sick right like you get it's like it's a complete you could have somebody come in and absolutely shock you so it's pretty early i think to make that call i i don't actually have an answer i want to see how that plays out i said this in a video recently but for for a new league when you have a bunch of new teams that have never played together it's hard to pick the favorite you

know Toronto's in last right now and they've struggled but they've also beat some they've also been in games with Minnesota and Montreal who are the two top teams right now and so when you look at it it's kind of like how can you really decipher who's going to be the best but with all that being said how do you cheer against or not pick MPP like Montreal is going to win because they have Marie-Philippe Poulet yes and that not how it works in women's hockey My favorite thing was the reaction to the first games and everyone was just like, I guess they can hit question mark. And they're just demolishing each other. MPP took a pretty bad one a couple weeks ago, I think.

Listen, on the show, you've heard me bet against people and be wrong over and over and over again, Boston. I'm not, I'm going to learn my lesson there. I'm not going to do that MPP until someone takes that crown off of her. And it might be Hillary Knight with Boston, right? Absolutely. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Absolutely. I wasn't a fan. I'll be honest. I was not a fan of the Toronto draft. I don't think they did a very, I wasn't, I was, you know what? I like you, no disrespect to the players that they took, but I thought, I'm like, are we drafting for Toronto or are we drafted to be the best? And the other team seemed to draft to be the best.

Can I be the encouraging parent? Please do. You know what? There's not that many teams and everyone's still in it. I think they can still do it. Okay. Fair enough. but i like that uh maddie all right what's your name race race okay go for it um when joseph wall

comes back which goalie do you think is going to be out of the loop and who do you think is going to be the starter that's a good question uh what a great problem to have right we didn't have this problem a moment ago we had remember the conversation was who should they play dennis Tildebee or Keith Petruzzelli? That was a conversation for a little bit, and it wasn't a good one. It wasn't one that I enjoyed, and it was one based in anxiety, and that's why I got asked it every LFR, every single video. Listen, Sammy has gotten his job back, and he's gotten it back with authority. The leash will be short, but we have some time here. Trade deadline's not for something like five weeks um i'm gonna say i mean they can carry three i think they're gonna

try it for a little bit um so i wouldn't be surprised to see them carry three but when push comes to shove and joseph wool is back i think it'll be martin jones and they'll just take their chances can i can i be an absolute lunatic for a second because when we did the always You usually don't ask permission. When we did the experts panel, one of the things that they said, and I know you guys were back. I wasn't sure if you heard it all, but they said goaltending at this trade deadline actually could be something that, you know, there's a potential. What if UC Soros moves? What if Marc-Andre Fleury moves?

That sort of thing. The Leafs don't have any second round picks. The Leafs don't have a whole lot. I think they're the 28th ranked farm system out of 32, according to Scott Wheeler today. so is Martin Jones a trade ship what because he played really well

and if you're Carolina you don't have to give up too much but it's something right I know we all want them to get Chris Tanev and Connor McDavid I don't think anybody wants Chris Tanev who wants Chris Tanev wow wow is there a lot of boos for Chris Tanev

you know what they're not buying the flames propaganda am I right absolutely No, but this is, it's really interesting. You have a lot of teams. I like the rumors that I'm hearing about the Flyers because they're probably overachieving. Like we probably, I don't remember what we said in the preseason videos. We probably had them seventh or eighth in the division. Yep. Right. And here they are. They have a really good shot at the playoffs. Who knows if they'll fall out of it, but all their rumors are about selling because they have a process that they

want to go through right like they have a vision for when they're going to contend they also had that crazy tory krug deal that didn't happen and i'm not totally sure they think i mean even though they're doing well they don't think they're a contender so with the leafs having done all these moves over the last few years they emptied the cupboard there was the nick felino deal that adam love very much great deal great deal and the not taylor hall deal which that deal also was yeah um this would not be the worst year to do a little bit of buying and selling um so if you have this extra goalie what are you going to do lose them on waivers or are you going to call up the many teams who need a guy martin jones isn't making it to carolina no do you call

up carolina um you know does edmonton are they satisfied with calvin pickard you could i'm sure there's other teams out there that could use a goalie uh to tend the goal um it it wouldn't it wouldn't be the worst year to do a little bit of buying and selling okay justin is how much time do we have left we got a wrap we're gonna wrap all right i just want to bring everybody out from sdpn who came out so i just want to bring everybody up on stage and before you do that if you want to stick around and watch the All-Star game. They're playing it on all the TVs and everything. You can hang out here and watch it.

Yeah, get the hell out of here. No, just kidding. Alright, so we're going to bring everybody out. Everybody who's still left. All the journalists left because they have serious jobs. Ooh. But I just wanted to thank everybody who's coming up on stage here for an amazing time. Yeah, give me a fist bump, Mom.

Oh, you guys are still... Chris and Julian are still here. Yay! So, and we wanted to say thank you to you. This was a crazy weekend. We were not expecting to sell this many tickets. So thank you for being here. And we'll see you tonight at Isabelle's.

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