The Steve Dangle Podcast - The Steve Dangle Podcast - Apr 21, 2016 - Shawked

Episode Date: April 22, 2016

On this episode, the guys discuss the Andrew Shaw incident, the playoffs, a Connor McGregor update, and a bizarre Twitter... feud? If you can even call it that. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit... megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Panago Pizza presents S.T.P. The Steve Dangle Podcast with your hosts, Steve Dangle and Adam Wilde. Before we start the show, a musical legend passed away today. And I think that we need to honor him the right way. Which in this case is the CNN way. He's been so active over all of these years. Writing music Performing
Starting point is 00:00:30 Soundtracks For major motion Pictures All of us of course Remember Purple Haze Nope That'd be Purple Rain Wolf Blitzer
Starting point is 00:00:41 And We say Goodbye to Prince Goodbye Prince Genuinely wrecked my afternoon I'm not gonna lie You're a big Oh
Starting point is 00:00:48 You're wearing a purple shirt I know You didn't even mean to do that I didn't even mean to do it That's for the Queen's birthday Is why you wore that That's right Very regal color
Starting point is 00:00:56 Sure Or it wasn't that I picked it out at 4.30 in the morning when I couldn't see anything. And I was like, this feels like a shirt. Because that's when you got up. Because you're stupid. Stop being successful. How many hours have you worked today, Adam Wilde? Okay. Do you want me to run through my day?
Starting point is 00:01:10 Yeah. Let's do it. Why talk about sports when we can talk about you and your day? Got up at 4.30. Adam is bigger than sports. Was at Breakfast Television by 5.30. Had a segment at 6.20 and 6.40 and then like, you know,
Starting point is 00:01:25 so on throughout the morning. with Dina DiPugliese who's just like what's up good morning she's the most energetic person and thank god she is because the rest
Starting point is 00:01:35 of us are like zombies before she's there and then I finished up there at about 10am because I had to go to the post show meeting from 9.30 to 10 and then I went home
Starting point is 00:01:45 for an hour or two and then I went to came back to work because I had a meeting with Jesse to your other work yeah to New what's good though
Starting point is 00:01:54 is you used that hour or two to nap clearly Well, today I didn't Today I was like No, I feel okay Why don't I go on Battlefront? Why don't I go on Battlefront and complete
Starting point is 00:02:06 I was supposed to complete a contract That I bought from Jabba the Hutt To get myself this really sick pistol And Jabba the Hutt was like Sure, all you need to do is get 15 kills with this gun And 3 killstreaks with this gun But the gun that you have to do it with Is this weenie little pistol
Starting point is 00:02:23 That is terrible And you have to get 10 kills with it in a game and I can't do it Well, you've got to use your teammates, Adam. You've got to communicate better with them. Well, you can't talk to people in Battlefront unless your friends are playing. Oh, so how else are you going to hear... People clearing their thrones. Dad! Dad!
Starting point is 00:02:40 Are you still playing StarCraft? It's Star Wars! I got a message from a listener, actually. And he said, hey, literally after I finished playing, and I kid you not, on my PSN Messenger, he said, hey, Adam, that was a lot of fun. we'll play again sometime I had no idea I was playing with one of our listeners so that was amazing uh his name's uh Jossie99 so thank you yeah thanks for the couple of games
Starting point is 00:03:07 Adam and I was like dude oh I didn't even know you were playing and I did not have my microphone hooked up because Jossie would have heard some stuff and some things that were unpleasant I asked before the show I go how many times do you get genuinely embarrassed by your reaction to video games. And Jesse's answer made me feel so much better. Well, you shouldn't be embarrassed at all. It's very important. I agree. I got a contract with
Starting point is 00:03:32 fake money from a fake slug gangster who's literally a slug. He's literally a massive slug. Jabba the Hutt. Slug gangster. And I was unable to complete that contract and it made me mad. Made me mad. I paid 8,000 credits for that. Galactic freaking credits. And that ruined your day. James Reimer
Starting point is 00:03:48 let in a goal off the stand gin from the other side of the ice in my Chell game, and it made me really upset. You've got to post that to Instagram. You do. Why haven't you posted it? Honestly, when you see what happened to Jesse, you'll be mad on his behalf. It was sad. I cried a little. Can you please post that tonight? I will post that.
Starting point is 00:04:03 Okay, because that is just... Throw that up on Twitter. Wow. Anyway... So are we just putting off the bad conversation? I wanted to start on somewhat of a light note. I know somebody mixing up... So you started with a death announcement. Yeah. But at least it was a Jimi Hendrix
Starting point is 00:04:18 and Prince cross... Oh, poor CNN. Excuse me while I hold this L. I do feel bad for CNN just because they're on 24-7 live and things are bound to happen. Like, you're tempting fate at that point. It is true,
Starting point is 00:04:34 but I can't help but feel like Wolf Blitzer went a little off script and he's like, here's where I'll get him. And completely turned himself into a meme again. There is an inordinate amount of Wolf Blitzer clips floating around in the ether. wolf not so hip dad um blitzer i was actually going to start with a story from windsor ontario
Starting point is 00:04:55 that's what i was really going to start with but maybe we'll save that for later let's save it all right i'm going to just say it andrew shaw andrew shaw yes oh again i gotta listen to this again i've been listening to it on the radio all day i listened to it all yesterday every blog was on it every yes too bad too bad you know what this is too much this conversation is too much hey stop taking it so seriously that stuff gets said all the time on the ice well you know what if that gets said all the time on the ice then you should be able to handle this being talked about all the time on the radio and on every podcast and on every blog you read that's why it's a problem stupid so so a couple things happened but anyway let's have a conversation
Starting point is 00:05:37 A couple things happened between our last show and this one. And those things are, Curt Schilling was let go from ESPN and the Andrew Shaw thing. For similar incidents, strangely enough, they were similar-ish, right? I see it. It's somebody said something that is inappropriate and paid a price for it.
Starting point is 00:05:58 That's the general consensus. Schilling was more of a... Schilling's a different case, and we'll get to Schilling in a sec. Yeah, kind of built up over time. Andrew Shaw came out and apologized, genuinely said he was sorry, and I think in a situation like this, the one thing that we must do is expect that human beings are going to screw up, hope for a genuine apology, which we got, and then you see how they actually act once the apology happens. You've got to allow, and this generation does not like to do this, you've got to allow people to move on. Yeah, like I totally disagreed with what he did. I thought he should be punished.
Starting point is 00:06:38 Absolutely. A lot of people for the first time were like, wow, the NHL really got this right. They nailed it. Suspended him for a playoff game. They fined him. You know, it certainly doesn't excuse anything or really make it better, I guess. But he, you ever see an apology for someone you're mad at and it's sincere enough that you feel bad a bit? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:00 I know I shouldn't feel bad for him, but I was just like, man, he really means what he's saying. And he probably, do I think that Andrew Shaw actually meant what he said on the ice? Yeah. Do you think he meant that? He screamed at the top of his lungs. Or was it just a bad, was it a bad word? Was it a bad word? He just used a bad word.
Starting point is 00:07:19 He meant it in the moment. He meant it in the moment. Which is good enough. Fair. Or bad enough. Yeah, no, that's fair. You know? But he seemed very sincere in his apology.
Starting point is 00:07:29 He is almost the least disgusting part of this whole thing, right? he's almost the part of this that I'm least concerned about because he apologized and he seemed to me and again, everyone who's like, he should be able to do that. What is wrong with everyone? Why is everyone so soft? Why doesn't everyone just man up?
Starting point is 00:07:47 We've said this before, but let me reiterate in, in North America, you have in, in all three countries, Mexico, United States of America, Canada,
Starting point is 00:07:58 you have the ability to say pretty much whatever you want. you have freedom of speech as that's what they say in the States. Okay. Freedom of speech. What you do not have is freedom from consequence. That is what you do not have. So yeah, you can say whatever the hell you want.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Manning up would be accepting consequence, but consequences are still bound to happen. Can the government persecute you? No, they can't. It doesn't mean a corporation can't say, this isn't good for our business. And,
Starting point is 00:08:30 and, and quite honestly, um the the argument that i got from from listeners that have been with us for a long time was just that steve you can say i mean cool all right he said or this one he said it in the heat of the moment well all right there braveheart well how about you next time you get into an argument with your boss in the heat of the moment tell him to f off right to his face his or her face see what happens just see what happens hey you got freedom of speech it's fine yeah you'll be fine yeah i mean you're allowed to say it you are allowed to say it i'm allowed we're on the radio
Starting point is 00:09:03 right now i'm allowed to say whatever i want except not except not there's a rule i'm like adam i like the show there's a rule in radio you can say anything once and that's that rule i think goes for life too or if you're kurt schilling 17 times 17 times before espn finally makes a move now um the the the frustrating part for me is that people said okay so he said it in the heat of the moment he said it in the heat of the moment he didn't mean it okay so let's let's change the word for a second here well because because hang on what is the word the word objectifies and demeans a group of people a certain group of people let's say that andrew shaw had called that ref the n-bomb or any other slur would you be would you be or yeah any other slur but i'm
Starting point is 00:09:54 using the n-bomb in this particular case let's say he'd use that okay do you think that you would be defending it had he said that uh some people would but uh do you think any say fewer people sane rational people and i'm talking to the people that listen to this show would you be defending that comment would you be defending that comment here's a problem uh you said sane rational people and i often go i just ignore them they're crazy just ignore who cares they're crazy people there are so many there are so many that you can't really ignore them you can't and some and a lot of the ones i saw on this on twitter yesterday and a lot of them listened to the show not crazy but just misguided and and i was reading some of them and i couldn't help but feel like i feel like
Starting point is 00:10:41 they're having an internal conflict out loud yes about the way they feel about this word and they were asking questions somewhat rhetorically well why can't you they're trying to figure it out in their own head I think we're getting there it's a transition I hope we're getting there
Starting point is 00:11:01 would this have even gotten punished before? it is akin to a racial slur it just happens to be a sexually oriented slur it's the same thing and I also saw a lot of people going well look at all the other stuff that happens on the ice you can punch a guy in the face but you can't say that or you could say to a guy
Starting point is 00:11:17 like i'm i'm gonna kick your ass you can say that you know what why is that worse and which is an interesting question it's an interesting question except for the fact that you and i don't insult my intelligence and don't insult yours by putting those two things in the same category yeah don't pretend they're the same we both know they're not don't try to get me to explain why they're not, because we both know. We both know. Don't act like I'm stupid. Don't act like you're stupid. Let's talk. Let's talk.
Starting point is 00:11:51 Instead of trying to win, how about you try to open your mind to reason? There doesn't need to be a win. That is the problem, though, is that there does have to be a win for most people out there. I think nobody wants to quote-unquote lose an argument. I get that.
Starting point is 00:12:08 But quite honestly, if you stand on the other side of this issue and you think that that was okay, you're standing on the wrong side of history and decency period end of story that's it that's all and you can realize it now or you can realize it in 10 years or you can never realize it that's your choice but i'm telling you right now that it's a problem and it's not okay and the nhl did the right thing because because just purely take all the emotion out of it take the take the whole take all the feeling all the people you've offended all the kids who may be hockey players and may
Starting point is 00:12:42 be gay who are now oh my god that's what nhl players are saying take all of that out of it the nhl looked at this and said this is bad for business this happened on national television we are an inclusive organization we cannot have this well adam you know what it's all the microphones and the cameras that are doing it because they put a evil witch spell on andrew Shaw and made him spew those words from his face, you know, with all their tech notes. Snapchat or something like that does that. That is the problem we're facing today. Here's a question.
Starting point is 00:13:19 Yes. Is one game enough if you're trying to say, hey, this isn't acceptable? Well, I don't know, because had it been the N-bomb, it would have been more than one game. Oh, yeah. Nah, you know, I think you're right. So are we praising them a little bit too much if they didn't even give them enough of a penalty? I think this is a lot by NHL standards.
Starting point is 00:13:45 We're plotting progress. How's that? Yes, which is... We're not there yet. If we're celebrating, it's like that cartoon with the... Like we're not... It's worth celebrating. It's worth being somewhat optimistic about,
Starting point is 00:14:02 but you're right. But, like, what are they going to do? Hammer him with ten games? No, if you want to send a message. That would send a message for sure. Nobody ever do this again. You give him five games. Yep.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Five playoff games. Well, this is the problem, though. Like, do they have five playoff games left? No, they just go into next season, right? That is true. That is true. Well, beyond that. It would suck the whole summer.
Starting point is 00:14:25 There would be this, oh, and Shaw is going to miss the first four games. Yeah, and that would. Or whatever, of the next season. and you know the thing is too I think I think it's not about
Starting point is 00:14:37 the amount of games it's that there was a game assigned in the playoffs I think that that is so key because the NHL could have easily
Starting point is 00:14:44 come in here and said we're going to fine him 25 grand devil's advocate Sean Avery made the sloppy seconds comments to Dion Phaneuf
Starting point is 00:14:51 which I had kind of forgotten about I think it was Greg Wyshynski tweeted about it he goes the NHL has suspended people for words before
Starting point is 00:14:58 he got six games for that wow I don't remember. Now, I'm sure that wasn't Sean Avery's first rodeo, so that maybe played into the six games. What are you talking about? Oh, they kind of invented rules around him and other things.
Starting point is 00:15:18 But he got six games. Regular season games, but six games. I bet if he doesn't come out with that apology and the way he said it, he gets more because timing is very important in all this right the next morning you know and he's he's in his i'm sorry suit you know yep and uh how often do you catch a player talking in a suit um on like a game day or something before the game or or before the game or they're always they're always in some kind of workout gear because they're working out when they put on a suit serious he's wearing an i'm sorry suit i i and he says it the way he says it and then they
Starting point is 00:16:02 put down the suspension because if people i think if if it didn't come across sincere i bet he gets more i agree i agree i i again i want to reiterate though i really believe that people should be allowed to recover from their mistakes and we don't often allow for that now especially with the internet especially with how easy it is to pull up people's histories and as certain mistakes and i'm not i am not in any way condoning what happened but what andrew shaw does from here will be the true version of what andrew shaw is if andrew shaw learns from this and moves on and if the nhl moves from this and it moves on and this creates the change then something good came out of it
Starting point is 00:16:47 and I want I want people to keep that in mind as hard as that is because that's a really tough concept for people because something wrong happened
Starting point is 00:16:55 something really wrong happened but you've got to allow people to move on and we've all all of us
Starting point is 00:17:02 have said inappropriate things all of us have made jokes that are off color all of us okay nobody's sitting
Starting point is 00:17:08 in a glass house here however no everybody's sitting in a glass house everyone's sitting in a glass house here everyone's sitting in a glass house here
Starting point is 00:17:14 my house is made of steel well that would be a very jesse answer to that of course but i i just i hope that this is the thing that we look back on and go this is a this is a good person who made a huge mistake who moved on and it created a change and good for that and and maybe this isn't the greatest comparison but people don't dislike matt cook because he hit one guy one time no like you know over and over and over again now while I would like to see this guy get forgiven and I would like to see him be able to he's got to earn that move on he's got to earn it but also his feelings aren't the most they're not paramount no here no and it's it's funny a lot of people were saying well the player he said
Starting point is 00:18:06 that to should man up he didn't say it to a player at least I'm fairly certain he didn't I think he said it to an official. I think he said it to an official. Well, the official should man up. Man up? Now, look. What? It's not about hurting that player's feelings or hurting that official's feelings.
Starting point is 00:18:22 It's that saying that to hurt someone's feelings might hurt someone it actually applies to his feelings. Wow. You know what I mean? What if there's a six-year-old kid at home watching? Oh, there's plenty. Well, I mean, I would like to think a six-year-old doesn't, you wouldn't know. They do. They absolutely know.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Ask someone who's gay. ask them ask them when they knew no no i'm sorry i meant the word oh like they see the lip then they're asking what is that word they go use it at school i knew what that word meant not at six seven or eight oh okay early you know i mean anyway that's besides but that's the point right it's it's that sort of thing that like it is it is so so important that that we you know and if you want to trash talk like that then play rec league play rec league with your buddies where it's acceptable somehow for you to use that word and it's not by the way this is where a message needed to be sent andrew shaw got caught yeah but they're all doing it oh my god well i don't know
Starting point is 00:19:21 about all some some enough absolutely yep yep and it's not good look okay let's try to find let's inch towards progress here so often that's what it is I know just a slow crawl if you're listening right now and you're disagreeing you're disagreeing
Starting point is 00:19:45 you shouldn't have been suspended for that can we agree that you shouldn't say that okay can we find that middle ground I think we can agree on that not everyone does but some of you If you are on the other side, but you're nodding your head right now, okay, you shouldn't say that.
Starting point is 00:20:04 How do we stop people from saying that? Now, your argument might be, well, you shouldn't stop people from saying that. And, well, I got nothing for you. I got nothing for you. But I think you'll come around. I think most of you will come around. I have faith. I agree.
Starting point is 00:20:17 I agree. This one guy was tweeting at me talking like a Dragon Ball Z villain, like, oh, you think someone should be punished for their words. That's a pity. that's something Frieza would say a Saiyan thinks he can defeat the mighty Frieza
Starting point is 00:20:31 that's a pity lots of people are punished for their words but the little dork was 19 or 20 or something like that
Starting point is 00:20:39 and it's like you're young I used to be dumb too yep you'll come around said tweeted Facebook some dumb things in my time
Starting point is 00:20:46 continue to continue to that I'm sure that I'll hate when I'm 40 I do want to say this too okay so
Starting point is 00:20:54 moving on past Mr. Shaw to Mr. Schilling I got a lot of the same arguments and that's the reason I'm bringing them up in the same breath I think Kurt Schilling is 10,000 times more serious than this Andrew Shaw thing not that they're not both serious but Kurt Schilling is a
Starting point is 00:21:10 outward unabashed bigot homophobe are you sure or does he tell it like it is that's so here's the deal I notice a lot of people who tell it like it is They seem to share the same opinions Adam, should a man lose his job
Starting point is 00:21:27 For expressing his feelings And telling him like it is He feels this way, he's just writing it on his own Facebook page Yes, he should, yes If he makes a company look bad He works for that company He represented ESPN And I'm saying Curt Schilling and ESPN right now
Starting point is 00:21:43 Why? Because he was employed by them So if I'm ESPN And this is like the 10th time this is flipping happening He posted stuff This is just one meme He posted this stuff all the time I really want to say this I really want to get this out
Starting point is 00:21:56 I got the argument that While he wasn't actually slamming LGBTQ people He was slamming pedophiles Because in the meme it says Well that'll allow a man to go after my daughter In the wrong bathroom If you're confused by the way
Starting point is 00:22:13 You need to go look up the whole thing Google it Save us some time on the air Google it Here's the problem with that. Google Curt Schilling fired, by the way. Don't Google other words I don't mention. Yeah, it's true.
Starting point is 00:22:27 The problem with sharing something like that and sharing something like, you know, comparing all Muslim people to Nazis, which he also shared. Was that another one? That was one that he shared, and he survived that one. They employed him after he shared that. So this was a straw that broke the camel's back?
Starting point is 00:22:46 This was the straw. Somehow, the Nazi-Muslim thing, no not the straw this is the straw guys well and you know what though we figured it out
Starting point is 00:22:56 we've already figured it out why he got fired okay because it was always Curt Schilling Curt Schilling Curt Schilling
Starting point is 00:23:01 how could Curt Schilling say this how could Curt Schilling say that and then finally last show obviously our show wasn't the reason
Starting point is 00:23:07 but we asked a question that a lot of people did screw Curt Schilling why is ESPN allowing this to happen yep but what if he had one of those little tags
Starting point is 00:23:16 in his Twitter bio that said views are my own doesn't matter You still represent the company. You know what? No. And anybody who says that views are my own. No, that means something.
Starting point is 00:23:23 That makes it safe. You can post whatever you want. I hate people that write that. Are you kidding me? Views are my own. It's your Twitter account. Of course the views are your own. And the RTs are not endorsements.
Starting point is 00:23:33 Really? Shocking. Now, here's what gets me. And I want you to really watch out for this in life. Because what's Curt Schilling's main argument in sharing that meme? Well, it's the safety of his kids. He wants his kids to be safe. which is why those North Carolina bathroom bills are going through.
Starting point is 00:23:51 That's why you've got to – that's why. It's the safety of the children. Really? The safety of the children. Give me a break. Give me a break. I care about safety. This is what they'll do.
Starting point is 00:24:05 This is what they'll do. They'll say, your kids are in danger. We need to do this thing to take away people's liberties. That's what they'll do. And it's a smokescreen. Do not fall for that crap. You are so much smarter than that I think what they actually want to say is
Starting point is 00:24:21 I don't want to because Ew Because ew That's weird to me But I'm going to Hide it under the smoke screen of Safety Because I don't understand it
Starting point is 00:24:36 Because I am not intelligent enough To actually delve into the issue To actually get in there and understand it Now why are you guys wasting so much time Talking about this stuff I thought you guys were a sports show This is sports. This is sports, and sports are life.
Starting point is 00:24:51 Why do you think there hasn't been an out NHL player yet? Well, Adam, that's because it's a man sport. Why do you think there hasn't been an out MLB player? Well, because it's a man sport. Or just recently there was an out NBA player who wasn't even out while he was in the NBA. Well, that's because it's a man sport and you need to be... No, it might have something to do with the fact that the environment is toxic and needs fixing
Starting point is 00:25:16 and I think it is slowly getting fixed but while it is getting fixed slow as it is other people are suffering by the way
Starting point is 00:25:24 I just want to let you know Curt Schilling was talking about those washroom laws in North Carolina yes you know who's against those bathroom bills
Starting point is 00:25:33 oh Donald Trump oh Donald Trump is against those bills he is he Curt Schilling
Starting point is 00:25:40 is so freaking whack I thought he was going to say the NBA commissioner well that too which would have been It's so much more applicable. But no, no, no. But look at it.
Starting point is 00:25:48 He's so far out there that even Donald Trump's like, nah, man, nah. Donald Trump says a lot of things, though. You're right. Adam Silver did say there will be no all-star game in North Carolina if these laws do not change. And good for them. Good. And Charlotte. And again, a lot of people were like, oh, look, it's the NHL.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Again, following. Just following. well i would love to see the nhl take a lead take a lead on something i i think they're terrified to take a lead on anything because it might garner criticism i've heard a lot of things about dave branch a lot of opinions about dave branch he's the commissioner of the chl canadian hockey league sorry apologies um and uh he really hammers guys for hits he's changed the rules in junior hockey a lot and i mean a huge chunk of the nhl had to come through the chl yep and people have people have said over the years why what is the reason dave branch doesn't take an nhl job why wouldn't
Starting point is 00:26:51 surely some nhl team out there would want him surely the nhl would want him why doesn't he take an nhl job well you can debate the reasons behind that all you want thank goodness dave Branch is in charge of the CHL and not someone else because at least at the grassroots level at the before the NHL level there's a forward thinker in the before time
Starting point is 00:27:15 he in a way forces the NHL's hands in a lot of things and sometimes it takes the NHL literally 5-10 years to catch up but they do because they have to because the league is so foreign to the young stars coming up in it so Dave Branch is a hipster
Starting point is 00:27:31 a little bit, a common sense hipster Sipping his paps and making rules. Protecting players. Because safety never takes a vacation. More like sipping his tea, because that's none of his business. And we learned how backwards the NHL can be when all those emails leaked. And we saw them refuse to do anything. Yeah, like, can you imagine those minds budging?
Starting point is 00:27:53 Like, you ever get into an argument with someone, and like, two sentences in, you're like, what am I doing with my time? Yeah, somebody tweeted me about Curt Schilling, and you're going to get mad at him because he had free speech. I said, if that is where you stand If that is where you stand I am not even going to have this conversation with you
Starting point is 00:28:08 And that's where it was I'm like, I'm not arguing with you I'm not going to change you Anyway, we're coming back on Sportsnet 590 The Fan Jesse's changing the video camera as we speak And we're going to come back with things that are not this We're going to come back with some hockey And some Conor McGregor
Starting point is 00:28:23 Oh my god And is Steve's prediction about the Flyers coming true? Come back We'll find out on Sportsnet 590 The Fan is Steve's prediction about the Philadelphia Flyers coming true because they
Starting point is 00:28:35 quietly very quietly tiptoed into a victory yesterday. Very, very quietly. And we heard nothing. We heard nothing. Are we finally talking about sports? We're talking about sports.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Thank goodness we can get back to sports and not things that make me have feelings and thought. Oh, wow. They got one win. By the way. Try three more. So, Flyers fans were redeemed.
Starting point is 00:28:59 They didn't throw hundreds of wristbands. on the ice. Because they apologized and they moved on and we let them. Yeah, very good. How do you act from now on? Flyers won.
Starting point is 00:29:07 Flyers won 2-1. 2-1 over the Caps. And they win. They stay alive in the series. They earn everyone's respect. Hey, you at least didn't get swept. Even if they end up
Starting point is 00:29:17 losing to the Capitals, there's something about at least we didn't get swept. Because the Capitals had 53, 54 wins? How many wins? 56? Many.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And three of which were in the series so far. There was a moment, though, that stuck out in that game and if we're talking about suspensions someone should be gone for a long time
Starting point is 00:29:35 uh Brayden Shen what happened did you see it no I didn't Jesse can you bring it up so Adam can see it have you seen it
Starting point is 00:29:41 I have it's brutal right um probably you should have got something there okay so Orlov um was decked from behind
Starting point is 00:29:49 by Belmar uh huh um and he got one game Belmar got one game for that cause it was kind of a dirty hit
Starting point is 00:29:55 from behind right in the numbers uh some people didn't think it was enough whatever but like Belmar
Starting point is 00:30:02 at least according to a few people who tweeted at me showed remorse you know there wasn't that much intent there but they're punishing the action
Starting point is 00:30:11 you still have to punish the action agreed so we got a bit of a punishment for it what Braden Shen did to Evgeny Kuznetsov even if
Starting point is 00:30:21 Kuznetsov is fine the intent was to put Kuznetsov out of these playoffs with what he did Adam wait till you freaking see this He crossed
Starting point is 00:30:30 Oh you got it up Jesse I got it You got it up Let's see So there's a scrum In front of the net Scrum about to take place In front of the net
Starting point is 00:30:37 There's Kuznetsov right there Here comes Braden Shen Whoa Cross checks him Right in the side of the knee On purpose Because there's no argument
Starting point is 00:30:45 Of what he was trying to do Wow He was trying to bust his knee And take him out of the playoffs That's a career That's a career Shortening Injury
Starting point is 00:30:52 And it's interesting Because it's not Easy to cross check That low He cross checked No, it was 100% on purpose. Oh, for sure. I mean, like, there's no question about that.
Starting point is 00:31:02 But, I mean, like, he had to literally hunch over to cross-check him that low. That's terrible. And this, again, is another one of those things where, what, Kuznetsov's fine. No. You got to punish the intent, and you got to make him feel stupid. Like, you almost got to make him feel stupid that he wasn't injured. You know what I mean? Like, you're sitting five games, and you didn't do a damn thing to that man.
Starting point is 00:31:23 Looks good on you. Looks good on you, stupid. Like, I've met Braden Shen. It's just such a dirty play It's just such a dirty play I was really put off by that man It's intent, it's the intent of it Very Bobby Clark-esque
Starting point is 00:31:36 Wouldn't it be great if through the NHL suspension process That you had to apologize publicly You know what I think people should apologize when they mean it Naked Uphill In their father's pajamas You're naked, you can't wear your father's pajamas
Starting point is 00:31:54 Shut up It's a commercial from our childhood I don't know I just That really put a damper On the game But If I can bring
Starting point is 00:32:03 All the Flyers fans Back into my corner You know I've seen you do this Before Flyers I've seen you do this Before in 2010 Against the Boston Bruins
Starting point is 00:32:12 No Never happened And hey I've seen you do it And I've also seen The Capitals choke In the playoffs Sorry Caps fans
Starting point is 00:32:18 I'm sorry I'm sorry I love your boy Ovechkin I'm sorry But I mean we're all brushing This one game off I have a question
Starting point is 00:32:27 Still one game. I have a question. Adam Wilde. Going into, thank you, sir. Going into tonight, now when you actually listen to this show, this will be outdated,
Starting point is 00:32:36 but going into tonight, there are five series at the free one. More than I would have thought. I'm going to rattle them off for you. Yes. Okay. Dallas, so the former North Star,
Starting point is 00:32:48 the former stars, the former Minnesota and current Minnesota. There you go. Dallas is up three to one. Okay. Not surprised. St. Louis is up 3-1 over Chicago. That's a surprise.
Starting point is 00:32:59 San Jose is up 3-1 on Los Angeles. That's a surprise. No. Tampa Bay up 3-1. Wow. I thought you had the Kings. No, I have San Jose. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:33:07 I'm trying to do a thing. Tampa Bay up 3-1 on Detroit. Not that big of a surprise. Capitals up 3-1 on Philadelphia. Not shocking. Okay, so I've just named 10 teams. There are five series. Which series has the best chance of a massive comeback and a Game 7 win?
Starting point is 00:33:24 Kings, Sharks. They've done it before Not when Martin Jones plays at a level We haven't seen him ever play at Which he's been doing It just occurred to me that Martin Jones could knock the Kings out of the playoffs Which would be so much fun The year after he was traded
Starting point is 00:33:39 That's why you don't trade in your division I guess Well they didn't though They didn't did they No they gave him to Boston Damn Boston those big jerks If I was Dean Lombardi I'd be like I am not doing business with you Mr. Sweeney So there
Starting point is 00:33:54 funny how that happens funny how it works I actually think it might be Chicago and here's why oh no that's another good pick which leads us
Starting point is 00:34:03 to our next our next story which is Taze and Kane are now reunited oh my reunited because it
Starting point is 00:34:11 feels so good um so is that gonna make a difference eh I looked at that too people were like
Starting point is 00:34:21 Taze Kane reunited and I was like you know it's just two guys playing on a line and they haven't played
Starting point is 00:34:29 together all year and Panarin and Kane have been really good together and part of what makes the Blackhawks so good is their depth you know
Starting point is 00:34:35 it's okay you just got I'm sorry their depth their depth did I say it like that no okay their depth
Starting point is 00:34:41 and you know part of what makes them so awful to deal with is you got Taves and you're on the ice and you're trying to
Starting point is 00:34:51 stop him from scoring and you do a good job of it alright guys, get off the ice, you did a good job. Next shift, it's Patrick Kane and whoever the hell you send out with Patrick Kane. And the next shift, it's I don't know, Marian Jose if he's not on the line
Starting point is 00:35:04 with those two. And after that, it's just, it's waves, right? And I think a big strength in the playoffs is being able to wear players down and teams down with depth. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I just, I don't know. The Blues are a deep team. Blues are a deep team. It's rough. And thank God nobody said Detroit because I would have thrown you out. Go Detroit. Still cheering for them. You had them going to the final, didn't you?
Starting point is 00:35:35 No, I've been winning a round. It's not very likely. I have Tampa winning that series for sure. I don't think Detroit's that good. No, they're not. I think next year they're going to be real. They were fighting for their playoff lives this year. What's next year going to look like?
Starting point is 00:35:51 I'm telling you, Lee fans. that whole division is pretty mediocre yep prime for the taking um so I guess we'll switch gears again
Starting point is 00:36:01 Conor McGregor yes which we talked about last show so undoubtedly uh you've heard that Conor McGregor
Starting point is 00:36:07 sort of retired um in two seconds and has come out with a Facebook post today talking about why he's not retired and why he was
Starting point is 00:36:18 not okay with the the whole setup with the UFC not flattering to Dana White essentially it was they wanted him to promote the fight yeah they wanted him to show up to this thing uh i think it was in vegas or whatever it doesn't matter and it would have it would have been a huge delay in his training and he's saying i need to start living the way that got me here and you know like one of his most recent twitter pictures is uh it's him with a bald head no
Starting point is 00:36:44 tattoos at all it's like this is me in 2012 uh nothing in my pocket but holes just so irish Nothing in me pocket but holes And you know I can't hate him for this Because as a huge Ronda Rousey fan A huge Ronda Rousey fan I couldn't help but wonder With every passing 30 second
Starting point is 00:37:11 Or less victory God she's in movies now She's writing books She's in commercials Posing for Sports Illustrated I remember there was like a week where I was like, oh, she's on Kimmel. Oh, that's cool. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Oh, she's on like Leno. Oh, cool. Oh, she's on Fallon. Oh, my God. And she's doing the late night circuit. I don't know if she was on those shows specifically. But yeah, she was doing the media rounds. And which is fine.
Starting point is 00:37:39 Which is fine. And it built a profile for her. And, you know, she's a great fighter. And she trained a lot. But a lot isn't enough. A lot is enough for Betch Koaya I'm basically taking Joe Rogan's
Starting point is 00:37:53 Explanation of this but I mean I agree with him You can't Prepare for a fight like that You can't give anything less than 100% against Holly Holm And she lost You can't give anything less than 100% against Nate Diaz
Starting point is 00:38:10 Who's two weight divisions up by the way Two weight divisions up, he's taller than you He's the bigger man He is good at things that you're just not good at He's good at Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu, you're not. You know, he's got to give his everything. And he was basically saying, I don't feel, I can give my everything by doing all this promotion. Now, the UFC has come out and said, listen, we offered to fly him out on a private jet.
Starting point is 00:38:33 And we offered to ship his equipment from, is it Iceland that he trains in? Portugal, I believe. Is it Portugal? He's holed up in Portugal. Both. Okay. so they offered to set up his gym in vegas the exact way it is set up back wherever he trains and it would be ready for him the second he got off the plane but he still would not do it by the
Starting point is 00:38:57 way this cost him 10 million dollars so he and by not fighting it's 10 million dollars yeah by the way dana white uh i hope he's not so headstrong and so stupid that he has developed an allergy to money. Have him fight at UFC 200, Brainwave. Are you serious? They're not going to let him. And one thing Conor McGregor said in his Facebook post was, look at all the free publicity
Starting point is 00:39:19 I just gave the UFC in this fight. With one tweet. He said, with the $400 million I've generated for the UFC, I thought I'd have a little leeway. You know what? I don't hate this. I don't hate this. What, are people going to forget
Starting point is 00:39:35 that McGregor's fighting Nate Diaz? nobody and he makes a good point as much as I hate this he talks about doing local morning shows radio morning shows and stuff like that of which I'm on one
Starting point is 00:39:51 I host a local show that is provincial we cover several provinces but we're by no means national and as much as I would want a guy like that I don't want a big star on especially if I was doing an all rock format
Starting point is 00:40:06 or something like that. It makes sense from his perspective to not want to have to do 10 shows in a morning like that or 12 or 20. I get it. I get it. Another man is training to beat his ass.
Starting point is 00:40:20 And nobody wants to talk to Nate Diaz. You know, I think hardcore MMA fans do. I'm talking about mainstream media. You're 100% right. Nate Diaz isn't going on morning shows in Patuka, Kentucky. Yeah, you got to look at it the way...
Starting point is 00:40:35 Is that a place? I believe so. Cool. I don't know. Patuka, Kentucky. There you go. Anybody listening for Patuka? Peabody, Massachusetts.
Starting point is 00:40:42 Peabody. Peabody. You mean Peabody? No. Did you know there's an athole, Idaho? There's an athole street in Oshawa. Is there? Yes.
Starting point is 00:40:51 It's actually, I believe it's the street the GM Center is on. Oh, really? Yes. That's amazing. A-T-H-O-L. Patuka, Kentucky. Wow. Jesse Blake, everybody, with the geography lesson.
Starting point is 00:41:04 He googled it by the way In case you didn't see that American hockey fans Who don't know hockey at all Or sorry American sports fans Who are not fans of hockey Is what I meant to say
Starting point is 00:41:19 And those exist They watch football, they watch basketball Hockey, blah, why would I waste my time with that But they probably know Ovechkin And they probably know Crosby And that's about it people who don't like the UFC I bet you they know
Starting point is 00:41:37 Conor McGregor I bet you they know Ronda Rousey and that's about it now I get it from Dana White's perspective because I'm always the one on this podcast saying you gotta promote the game but quite honestly the UFC is freaking massive
Starting point is 00:41:53 and they do a great job of self promoting I mean tell me a bar you walk into that doesn't have a UFC poster up somewhere I understand them wanting to do Promotions Some promotion There's got to be a middle ground here
Starting point is 00:42:09 And I think what Conor McGregor is doing is right Because what he wants to be is a champion Because what will that do If Conor McGregor is a champion again Because he'll have to fight Jose Aldo or that other guy Frankie Edgar Both pretty big names
Starting point is 00:42:26 In their own right What he'll have to do If he's the champion, it is good for the sport Promotes the sport even further Because he is then the champion You want your best guy to be the champion Don't you? I think he's relinquished
Starting point is 00:42:35 He's going to have to relinquish that belt Like I can't imagine Because there's an interim belt being fought Yeah because he's not fighting in the division Which is so stupid Oh my god And at How long do you need to be
Starting point is 00:42:47 Training and at 170 pounds Before it gets really really hard To just willy nilly shed 25 Well I don't think he'll fight Nate Diaz For a while now Like if he even happens again It's got to happen at 200 Dana, use your freaking head.
Starting point is 00:43:00 Like, use your head. He's tough, man. But if, yeah. Tough is often a synonym for stupid. This is, yes. This is the retirement-unretirement rule. If you retire, you have to sit out at least four months. That's the rule.
Starting point is 00:43:14 He said he's not retired, though. Yes, but because he claimed retirement, the UFC is saying, ah, but you did say you were retired. Eh, we'll see. No, no, that's what they're saying. I'm not saying that that's the way it's going to go down, but that's the rule.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Ah, UFC, think of all the rule bendings you do, all the guys with dirty steroidy past that you let fight, just let them fight the thing. This was your press conference. This was your press conference. Congratulations.
Starting point is 00:43:43 I'll fix your bum life. Give you all the press and whatever you want. My Irish sucks. It will be interesting to see how this shakes out. Does he fight at 200? Yes or no? UFC 200? I was about to say
Starting point is 00:44:00 200 pounds wouldn't put it past him I'm going to say no I'm going to say yes I'm going to say no because Dana Head Dana Head Dana is
Starting point is 00:44:09 what's his last name Dana White I almost called him Dana Harvey Dana Dana White is hard headed
Starting point is 00:44:16 and he probably is looking at this from a perspective I need to draw a line in the sand before some other fighter comes along and does this
Starting point is 00:44:24 I'm not going to let a fighter bully me yeah because when Conor McGregor is 30 and he's done when he's 30 and he's done because that's what happens guys some other fighter is going to come along
Starting point is 00:44:34 and if this precedent is already established this is not going to be a fun ride for him I hope he's smart enough to realize no other fighter is Conor McGregor there's always someone else there's a Michael Jordan there's a Kobe, there's a LeBron
Starting point is 00:44:49 yeah fair enough that is true we're going to go on Sportsnet 590 the fan not because we want to but because we've run out of time quite frankly you see there are rules in you know
Starting point is 00:45:00 other shows in radio yes yeah and on the download portion of this show we actually
Starting point is 00:45:07 we actually have this segment that you should probably check out it's called What's Up in Liberty Village today oh and also we're going to take a look at my Instagram
Starting point is 00:45:14 oh are we oh we are okay well we'll get to that on Sportsnet 590 the fan well we won't get that on Sportsnet 590
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Starting point is 00:45:46 Steve is looking at Steve is looking at a salty headline salty headline that I just clicked off of and I really wish I had and here it is cbc.ca
Starting point is 00:45:57 so far the 217 million dollar price not looking to be worth the dough for David Price for David Price
Starting point is 00:46:05 SALT he's played like four games and he's got a 70 RA yeah I get it but forget his career I'm gonna base my opinion
Starting point is 00:46:12 on him off of these four games by the way 31 million dollars for a pitcher that's over if he wins 20 games that's over a million
Starting point is 00:46:20 that's over a million dollars a game like a start yeah he's basically getting paying a million bucks to start because pitchers
Starting point is 00:46:26 could start what 30, 31 games just a million dollars every time he takes the field okay and just if he pitches
Starting point is 00:46:33 nine innings by the way it's about I don't know 110 grand per inning doesn't that just make you hate things per three outs
Starting point is 00:46:41 but makes me wish I had better jeans thanks mom and dad is there any way your jeans were free what are you
Starting point is 00:46:48 what are you worried about ah yay you I might have paid for this is 31 million dollars live-up-able
Starting point is 00:46:55 when you're a pitcher? Can you live up to that? Like, you gotta win the Cy Young every year. Yeah, for that to be... Like, you gotta be the best pitcher every year, period.
Starting point is 00:47:04 It's like when you tell me Bryce Harper might be making the... 50 million. 50 million is what they're quoting with the Yankees. Yeah, good. Win MVP every year
Starting point is 00:47:12 or I will kill you. He may just. I will elbow you in the neck. He's so good, though. He's so good. It's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:47:21 So is David Price. uh steve you you had something that you wanted to bring up about your instagram account well you know i feel like we've uh started a thing every now and then the listeners latch on to something uh-huh and it becomes very apparent that they've latched on to that thing and they're not gonna let go yesterday i posted a video here i'll show you there oh that's you pushing the heavy thing me running with a sled at the gym yeah want me to read all the comments i'd love that because i'm sure they're good-natured and intelligent they started good-natured the first one damn oh this person's impressed with my accomplishment second is this how dowdy trains
Starting point is 00:48:06 to not get the norse second you run like the weird kid in high school that would sprint from class to class in the hallway hashtag Doughty told me to say it at Adam Wild happy belated
Starting point is 00:48:25 anniversary I'm not sure I get that one I don't get that one does anyone oh cause my anniversary post on Instagram
Starting point is 00:48:31 oh there you go was it C. Bishop that wrote that no it was Connor Shaw by the way C. Bishop wrote me he's like thanks
Starting point is 00:48:37 it's the most famous I've ever been thanks for the shout out man nice guy does anyone have a TTC pass I can borrow
Starting point is 00:48:43 anyone need a balcony cleaning you look balconies you look fat that's too old man we've got to be in shape to work for balconies what's doing on i'm looking for someone to reprogram my kindle this next one got me just because of the way they spelled it made me think of how to say it. Boy, where you learn... Wait. Boy, who you learn to run from? A bird?
Starting point is 00:49:19 They don't like how I run. What? May God help you work out. Hey, by the way, shout out to the person who made the Minerva Instagram account. Oh, that's from Minerva the Believer. Yeah, Minerva the Believer.
Starting point is 00:49:35 Who has one picture and it's of Jesus. I don't think this one is actually Based on a podcast joke It's just Hey jackass Stop posting workout videos I think that's a person
Starting point is 00:49:46 That doesn't listen to the podcast Oh Good Or maybe that just Doesn't get the jokes Okay now can I Can I share I think I lost my keys
Starting point is 00:49:53 Can I share They keep going I I have a Prince meme Up from the Animaniacs Ah yes And it's funny You can check it out
Starting point is 00:50:01 First First comment Do you have a printer I can borrow Second comment So she can find Prince But she can't find her lost keys On Lakeshore
Starting point is 00:50:08 Three that's nice but could she help me with my living room light fixture because it's it's the female from
Starting point is 00:50:15 the Warner Brothers Dot it's Dot from yeah they're talking about Dot that's not bad but could she recommend a good balcony cleaning service
Starting point is 00:50:24 that's alright but does any of does anyone have a Metro Pass I can borrow for the next couple hours and by the way yesterday I got a tweet
Starting point is 00:50:32 from somebody going hey do you know anybody that you could send over so they could switch my front car doors with my back car doors and I was like cool
Starting point is 00:50:39 What's happening right now? This is crazy. Yeah, like, because the light fixture thing. Oh. And I actually tagged Steve, I believe, in it and said, Steve will do it. Because, you know, you got to sign someone up for something they didn't sign up for. Oh, there you go. Remember to do that.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Remember to tag all your friends and sign them up for shit that they never wanted. Can I read one from my Instagram? Please. It is actually five from meme master 7272. He just wrote, Drew Dowdy doesn't deserve a Norris in five different comments. Wow. so thank you well you're preaching
Starting point is 00:51:11 to the choir on that one Jesse was the one that started that I agree with you you know what we didn't mention in the last episode so we
Starting point is 00:51:16 the first time we did what's up in Liberty Village we there was a moment where Steve was like do not post on the wall did I say this did I tell you this story
Starting point is 00:51:28 well we know about the story so Steve was like Steve was like guys guys be cool like don't
Starting point is 00:51:35 don't tell them that we're doing this somebody posted on the and we saw this come up and it was actually Blake who's also a member of the association
Starting point is 00:51:44 she said hey there's this comment on the Liberty Village Association thing and she's like we are getting roasted on the Steve Dangle podcast
Starting point is 00:51:52 right now just so you all know LOLs and I said no and by the time I looked at it they'd obviously heard Steve say be cool guys
Starting point is 00:52:00 which because they took it down by the way is another thing where people go I'm listening to a show and I just got this in my brain
Starting point is 00:52:07 and I need to get it on my fingers and into the screen and then they go oh, oh and then I waited a few minutes and then they tried
Starting point is 00:52:14 to do another thing. Give it a second! Give it a second! It's not live, okay? Who might say another thing? Give it a second! Jesse, are we doing
Starting point is 00:52:26 what's up in Liberty Village today? We definitely can. Okay, I think we should. I think we should and then we'll get into the press conference. Sorry, I didn't see these comments just yet.
Starting point is 00:52:35 Hold on on that. Hold on. Jesse, Steve, I need your undivided attention for a second. Do we want to talk about how you dangle your dangle? Oh, yeah, I want to talk about this. Next episode, Liberty Village? Yeah, let's hold off until next episode.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Okay. Yeah, we'll hold off until next episode. Yeah, yeah, we'll hold off because we don't want to kill it. We don't want to kill it. We just did it Tuesday. Let's do it next Tuesday. We'll do it once a week. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:00 All right, so Andrew Peters. Steve? Oh, I remember him. You don't. Yeah. That's because Andrew Peters probably played, what, 45 games? No, no, he played over 200. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:53:13 So Andrew Peters. I saw it on his HockeyDB, which he has, by the way. Andrew Peters. Do you? Do any of you have a HockeyDB page? I don't think so. I don't think so. Steve made an untoward comment.
Starting point is 00:53:30 I don't know. I'm so sorry. Steve made an untoward comment about Andrew Peters. Jesse, he. Yeah, no, I did. He, Andrew shot him. Oh, did you? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:38 Oh, wow. Dropped it in. How dare you? I did not. I very much did. Steve Dangle. What did you actually say? No, someone tweeted me.
Starting point is 00:53:49 They're like, oh, are you even surprised or whatever? And it was an exchange between Andrew Peters and Martin Biron, who used to be on the Sabres together, I think. I think. Those were the tough years where no one cared. They were. Hey, Biron was a great Sabre. there was one great saver in that conversation
Starting point is 00:54:08 don't so anyway let's not talk about great savers right now because they're not making themselves look great you're right so Peters was basically talking about the Belmar Orlov hit and I think he said something to the effect of
Starting point is 00:54:24 Orlov sold it he's gotta be accountable for his own gotta keep your head up and all that crap and Biron was like dude if this was Ristelainen you'd be freaking out right now Which I thought was a great point I thought it was a great point
Starting point is 00:54:39 And I don't know I guess Peter searches his name Which is hard Because he's a firsty firsty And he just I don't know like a few days later Started just going at me Now hang on hang on
Starting point is 00:54:55 But you haven't told us what you said Oh yeah someone showed me And they're like And so I just went It's Andrew Peters. What's your exact tweet? He's some goon. Let me look it up.
Starting point is 00:55:09 Let me look it up. Because, dude, it was days ago. Do you want to go through Andrew Peters' HockeyDB page? Well, hold on. Let's hold off on that for just a second. I saw it earlier today. It's a quick read, Jesse. Hang on.
Starting point is 00:55:23 I remembered it. It's a quick read. Don't get into it yet because there's pieces. There's pieces as we go. Let us know when you got that, Steve. this is the this is the comment by the way
Starting point is 00:55:33 that set fire set fire to twitter to NHL players three days ago he made this comment but it set fire today and you won't believe how what's number four Adam
Starting point is 00:55:44 I don't know I don't know it's from BK Dubin Dubin okay oh yeah she goes what's what is it with
Starting point is 00:55:52 Buffalo reporters huh and I think part of the reason I said it's Andrew Peters is cause it's not a reporter it's Andrew Peters
Starting point is 00:56:00 yeah um she goes never heard of him probably because he has no ties proximity to buffalo so he does this a lot i take it and i said no but he was a goon famously mocked the leafs with a golf swing and then uh and was then healthy scratched all playoffs and never played a game there's one word in there that set him off that's the word goon yeah he didn't seem to like so so Okay, so Steve, you called Andrew Peters a goon. How dare I? Can we now switch gears before we get into this conversation?
Starting point is 00:56:32 Oh, he favorited that tweet, so I guess he saw it. So hang on, Steve. Hang on, Steve. I'm a goon. All right, so let's go through Andrew Peters' HockeyDB page, because this is important to later on in the story. Jesse. We can start with games played.
Starting point is 00:56:44 How many? He played 229 games in the NHL. Let me just go out and say it. That's great. That's a lot. That is a lot. that most players who ever play professional hockey or even in the nhl don't play 229 games how many career goals four that's great most human beings on earth do not have four nhl
Starting point is 00:57:11 career assists three that's great because it shows he's a goal scorer career has more goals Penalty minutes 650 So he averaged Ish 2-3 in a game 3 penalty minutes a game He fought a lot
Starting point is 00:57:30 I mean it's a fair Description Based on the movie I think it's pretty fair Yeah when Ron Hextall Has almost as many career goals as you Fair Or Josie Theodore
Starting point is 00:57:48 Or Josie Tatar. Marty Brodeur probably has more playoff goals than he does. I think Nylander's already got him beat. So Steve, what happened? So he reads this tweet four days later, which is today, and he reaches out to you and says what? He's basically like... No, what's he say?
Starting point is 00:58:05 Here, here, here. Let me look it up. Jesus. I didn't want to have to talk about this. Count on Steve to be prepared. You do need to count on me to be prepared. I am a fancy broadcast person! But do you have a HockeyDB page?
Starting point is 00:58:20 I don't. Did you play in the NHL? I didn't. Then. Which makes me shit. How can you ever talk about anything ever related to hockey if you didn't play on the NHL? So, okay.
Starting point is 00:58:31 I don't think he's very good at Twitter because I received a tweet at 2.27. It's at me. There's no context. Like, there's no tweet attached to it. And it's just him and it says, okay. Okay, period. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Would love to have you a guest. This is your formal invite. So he wants to have you as a guest? No, no, no, Adam. He wants to have me a guest. A guest where? I shouldn't rip him for that. I spell stuff wrong on Twitter.
Starting point is 00:59:01 I guess maybe we should say that he does have a... He has a radio show. In Buffalo? In Buffalo or... I don't give a shit. Like, I don't know. Is it over the radio or in his head? No, it's on the radio.
Starting point is 00:59:12 It's on the radio. And he goes, what do you say, Steve? It has a Twitter account. I'm sure it exists. Does it? What do you say, Steve? Let's put all your years of playing and knowledge to the test. If you don't mind
Starting point is 00:59:25 coming on the radio with a goon like me, I have a few questions that'll make your jaw drop! Are those in all caps? No, I just... I've never heard of questions that'll make your jaw drop! Jaw drop or jaw? Jaw drop. He works for a radio station in Buffalo and
Starting point is 00:59:40 mike.com. You won't believe number... Whatever line... It's 32 because it's me. The line he was on. You won't believe number 32 because it's me. This argument is just bye. He goes, couldn't find your stats on HockeyDB though.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Must be exclusive to your blog. Because I have a blog. That's, well, I mean. A blog. I mean, none of what he said was incorrect. No. But it was almost as though he insinuated that because you never played in the NHL and in fact wrote words for a living, that that makes you a less legitimate person to speak
Starting point is 01:00:20 to and take information from than, say, somebody with four career goals. Hey, I have four less than him. You have four less than him. Someone tweeted... You have four... Hold on. He has four more career goals in the NHL than you. Someone tweeted, you know, what are you guys fighting for?
Starting point is 01:00:39 You guys are like 10 points apart. And I wanted to be like, oh, seven, but who's counting? And I said, sure, I'll come on. Yeah, I'll come on. By the way, I was right beside Steve when this was all happening. It was great. Anyway, keep going. And he goes, we can recap your career, playing days,
Starting point is 01:00:56 and merit on which you deliver your message. And I said, perfect, can't wait. As in he's dissing YouTube now? Yeah. And he said, send them over so I can have them clear. You played where? When? I said, unfortunately, I don't have a HockeyDB page.
Starting point is 01:01:10 I'm good to mediocre at NHL 16, though, if that counts. So Steve's trying to be fun about this. You're trying to be fun. It does count, by the way. You just say, my friend. I'll come on your show, my friend. You're trying to be, trying to levitate, like, not levitate. You're trying to meet him halfway.
Starting point is 01:01:23 It goes, but you talk like a cup champ. Oh. A cup champ in chow. By the way, I have 229 fewer games played in the NHL than Andrew Peters. Four fewer goals. Three fewer assists. Seven fewer points. But you know what?
Starting point is 01:01:39 We happen to be tied in NHL playoff games played. so how about you don't talk like a cup champ uh i said this call isn't gonna happen is it and he says there is no reason to have you on other than i invited you on there is no reason to have you on you're not even a hockey player not even just a goon the only and then i didn't respond so he just comes with that overhand right and he said the only thing you dangle steve is your pecker wow dangle knows exactly what he did didn't know it would turn out this way this is exactly how the conversation follows by the way right you're not skipping anything yeah and i said lol i figured it would turn out this way you'd challenge me to call in i accepted and you
Starting point is 01:02:28 ducked he goes never heard of you sorry and then someone tweeted and there's this picture of um zach alifanakis in uh in hangover with all like the numbers swirling around his head And it's like, but you tweeted him. And here's the best part about that. That whole thing for me was the only thing you dangle is your pecker. And I thought at that moment, and I didn't tweet this because I thought, I got more to lose than he does. Does that mean that if Steve only dangles his pecker,
Starting point is 01:03:06 does Peter's dangle his Peter? just wondering just wondering Steve I thought it was clever also also how
Starting point is 01:03:15 how hard do you think he worked on that joke like how much cement do you need in your head where that's the best you've got hey man no you know what
Starting point is 01:03:25 I I mean I mean really I said a nasty thing about him well not even nasty I said an untoward thing about him you said a truthful thing
Starting point is 01:03:33 about him no but it's it was what did he do we'll say it was defaming we'll say defaming And Adam
Starting point is 01:03:39 Work with me Fuck We'll see What's defaming Right Untoward And he caught me Okay fine
Starting point is 01:03:47 Now I'm going on his show So he can tell me What's what But he doesn't know who you are Right But then Like Imagine what a
Starting point is 01:03:55 What a segment That would have been For his show That I've never heard of And no one has Imagine what a segment That would have been Peter says
Starting point is 01:04:04 Less Twitter followers Than two of the people In this room And Jesse's gonna get there yeah steve how many followers do you have over 40 000 andrew peters has 11 000 yeah and i'm not saying that to diss him i'm saying man i could have helped your show do you know what's written in his twitter bio what's written in his twitter bio i stir the pot for a reaction steve i think you might have fell for a troll from andrew peters oh man you are the bigger person here
Starting point is 01:04:35 You have the bigger platform. He got you to react and make everybody know who he is. Wow. Shit. It wasn't I served. Wow. Take that, Steve. I was going to tell Peters to stay in his arena,
Starting point is 01:04:47 but clearly he is a silent strategic assassin. That kid's never been in an arena. He stirs the pot for a reaction. This is like that movie You Got Served when all those kids got served. Here's the actual thing, though. Mr. Peters has stepped out of his depth. And we saw exactly what happens
Starting point is 01:05:06 When someone steps out of their depth And they invite you to do something That they can't back up I.e. he invites Steve on his show And then pleasantly backs out of it When Steve goes, okay Because you know why Andrew Peters grew up playing hockey
Starting point is 01:05:22 Steve grew up acting, writing, recording Okay? Talking I'm glad the second word was writing Acting like an idiot well that too that's fine acting like an asshole
Starting point is 01:05:35 that's fine there's nothing wrong with that but that's what you do not acting like an idiot just and that is what I do and the thing is
Starting point is 01:05:42 is that now Andrew Peters doesn't play hockey anymore he's now in Steve's lane and Steve's better so maybe I think of Andrew Peters
Starting point is 01:05:54 maybe you know what how about we do this are you thinking what I'm thinking you guys get on the ice have a little fight I agree fair game you're right yes but no no it's a spelling bee fight so you can only throw a punch
Starting point is 01:06:10 if you can spell a word properly see let's not pretend like i'm much better at spelling though dude that little red line in microsoft word that helps me a lot how about you both record reaction videos upload them to youtube the person with the most likes and uh views no for every view you get, that's how many punches you get on the ice. I don't want one. I don't want one. I just think this is a great viral video.
Starting point is 01:06:37 I'd be really excited about this. Local blogger dies. I just think, you know what? How about we officially invite Andrew Peters to call into the show? Absolutely. You know what? He's welcome to come into the studio if he wants to make the drive up. Adam, let's not make any rush.
Starting point is 01:06:53 I'd love to have him on. Mr. Peters, I know you're listening to this because you very clearly checked yourself out and are googling yourself so I'm sure your name will come up
Starting point is 01:07:02 and yeah and by the way you follow me on Twitter so that's cool follow me too did you follow him? no nope
Starting point is 01:07:09 good but he is more than welcome to come on and maybe we can bury the hatchet you know we've made a little bit of fun we had a little fun
Starting point is 01:07:17 to hit his expense he'd be the first former NHL player on the show that would be great love to have him on yeah I want to see you guys
Starting point is 01:07:23 fight still I would love to see them bury the hatchet and just and just call it a day? The hatchet is very much buried on my end. It was just a very bizarre exchange that I thought I would bring to the show.
Starting point is 01:07:37 The best tweet that I... Asked me to come on the show, I said yes, and he said, bet you jack off. Bet you dangle your dangles. My favorite tweet of the whole day. That is literally...
Starting point is 01:07:50 Favorite tweet about the whole thing was somebody going, the only thing sadder than this thread is Andrew Peters' time with the New New Jersey Devils. Which, by the way, five seasons. Didn't know that.
Starting point is 01:08:01 He was with the Devils? Oh, no, five seasons with the Sabres. Oh, yeah. I was going to say, I only ever knew him as a Sabre. So we're going to call it
Starting point is 01:08:08 a day on that one. Whatever. We've now given him far more promotion than he deserves, but he's more than welcome to come on. Disagree.
Starting point is 01:08:16 I said a nasty thing. I will do... That is not a nasty thing. Stop saying that. Adam, I said this nasty thing and I will do this one favor for him. Andrew Peters
Starting point is 01:08:24 was on the NHL ice when he was there to fight. And score goals, Adam. And there was a term for that and it's goon. There's a movie
Starting point is 01:08:35 called Goon. Look it up. It's very good, actually. With goons in it. Yeah. George LaRock was in it. That's an offensive term. How dare you?
Starting point is 01:08:43 You shouldn't use that. You're right, Adam. I have left that word behind. Let's not hurt their feelings, those former NHL fighters. Can't use that. Can't use it. You're right.
Starting point is 01:08:51 Let's do the press conference. One game suspension. The Steve Dangle Press Conference. Adam. Yes. We need to revisit last press conference. Okay, what did I do wrong? Hawk Floyd wants to know,
Starting point is 01:09:09 Adam, why is your taste in guitar so bad? Oh, whoa. Yeah, somebody tweeted me today and tried to tell me that Randy Rhoads was a better guitar player than Eddie Van Halen. So what's Hawk, what's his... He wants to know why are they so bad. No Dave Gilmore. No Jimmy Page.
Starting point is 01:09:25 Why I didn't say that I didn't like them. This is what I hate about saying I really love this thing. Because everybody automatically assumes that you hate everything else. You know? It's like saying I love peanut butter. You don't love jam? The hell's wrong with you? You don't like bread?
Starting point is 01:09:40 You don't like a peanut butter and jam sandwich? I love Jimmy Page. I love David Gilmour. Eddie Van Halen happens to be my favorite. Okay. I got a similar message, actually. uh by the way hendrix was by the way hendrix was way more innovative than eddie van halen not that eddie wasn't great you could say hendrix opened the door and eddie walked in
Starting point is 01:10:07 haha just saying adam rocks and i saw his his leather pants lol that's from my dad well if steve's dad steve's dad was alive when all that happened so i'm gonna go with steve's dad on that one because he's got uh jimmy hendrix pictures all in the basement of the house i grew up and i actually he is a huge hendrix fan have you ever come do you remember ever coming home when your your your mother or your stepmother in my case was not going to be home and your dad happened to be home early and and what happened in the house that particular night it could be a tuesday or a wednesday and how things changed because i know for me i used to i come home my Let's say my stepmom was staying out late for dinner.
Starting point is 01:10:50 And my dad would have the house just rocking. My stepmom's not big on loud music. My dad, the windows would shake. And I walked in one day and he had the Jimi Hendrix experience going so loud. Literally, the dog had wedged itself underneath the couch because it was so afraid. It was just like, I had to go and find him and pull him out. It was awesome. I was like, wow, he's still a kid.
Starting point is 01:11:16 I, by the way, I could tell no one else was in the house because again, the house would literally shake because my dad's a drummer. Oh, just fucking, yeah. Sorry. I moved your laptop again. Like you could hear it from, I remember being like three doors down, walking home from school and being like, I think I can hear my, I got to the front door. I'm like, that's yeah, that's my dad.
Starting point is 01:11:38 Just rip it. I can hear it. Gary's the man. Gary's the man. there's a bongo in the living room and because of course or no sorry
Starting point is 01:11:47 it's a djembe oh it's different and he played it like unexpectedly one time when Iggy was there
Starting point is 01:11:54 and Iggy ran to the front door like tail tucked between his legs and would not come back into the living room aww that's hilarious
Starting point is 01:12:02 I had to like coax him like look it's fine it's fine get him to sniff the thing dude play the f***ing thing um
Starting point is 01:12:10 we should get Steve's dad to a Marley's game and get him to play the bongo cam He would take it so seriously Yeah he would He would
Starting point is 01:12:17 By the way We're working on something With them So stay tuned Okay Yeah Tickets to the Calder Cup Final
Starting point is 01:12:24 I didn't say that I know And that is definitely Made up But we are working On something with them Steve I believe You have something
Starting point is 01:12:31 With the Marlies up On Sportsnet soon Oh yeah No I mean Keep checking The Steve Dangle blog On sportsnet.ca
Starting point is 01:12:38 Google it The Steve Dangle blog Ah god I'm going to have a lot of Marley stuff over the next little while and hopefully throughout their playoff run. What went up yesterday? I did one about how Kyle Dubas is staying with the Leafs. Lots of people have offered their take on it.
Starting point is 01:12:56 I offered mine. Hopefully it was a little different. I posted a video today that is the fan's guide to the Marley's playoff run. Their first round starts very soon in Bridgeport against the Bridgeport Sound Tigers. That's the AHL affiliate of the New York Islanders. on paper the Marlies should kill them
Starting point is 01:13:13 and but you should have done a hitchhiker's guide a hitchhiker's guide if they don't kill them though they're in trouble because it's a best of five
Starting point is 01:13:23 okay and so all it takes is three losses and you're out coming up I don't know if I should yeah sure I'll tease it gonna do something
Starting point is 01:13:33 on the Goldies because people keep saying who's gonna start game one I personally think we're gonna see the Marlies have Garrett Sparks and Antoine Bibeau start games
Starting point is 01:13:43 throughout these playoffs. I don't know that to be sure. Sheldon Keefe joked last week that the media is probably going to find out who the Game 1 starter is
Starting point is 01:13:54 during the National Anthem. And I believe him. Yeah. I believe him. So we're going to have something going up on the goalies and also
Starting point is 01:14:01 going to go into depth on the man, the myth, the legend, Nikita Sashnikov. Cool. And his line mates, Freddie Gauthier,
Starting point is 01:14:09 And Rich Kloon, I sure hope he doesn't get taken off that line because that will kind of ruin the piece a little bit. But that line has stuck together for a long time. And everyone who I asked, I was like, who would you take out of the Marlies lineup? For everyone who said Kloon and Gauthier, I hope it sheds some light on why they would never do that. Now, when we were at the Marlies game,
Starting point is 01:14:30 did we talk about the fact that Rich Kloon fought the wrong guy in a particular situation? Rich Kloon killed the wrong guy. Just so there's a, I forget who it was even against the last game, but Grand Rapids? Grand Rapids. So somebody from Grand Rapids makes an untoward hit on one of the Toronto Marlies. It was a dirty hit.
Starting point is 01:14:47 And Rich Kloon is like, nah, nah, not in this house. But instead of grabbing the guy that laid the hit, he just grabbed a guy with a Grand Rapids jersey on and filled him. And we're like, this is hockey fights mid-80s. Unbelievable. It was crazy You know what I talked to him He's super cool
Starting point is 01:15:10 I think you'll all like the quotes When you first meet him though Like super intimidating man Super intimidating First of all he's twice as wide as anyone else on the team He's like a pro lifter Like go look at his Instagram Okay if you want to see an actual
Starting point is 01:15:27 Fit person workout Don't look at my Instagram go look at Rich Clunes And look at the goofy stuff he picks up holy smokes and another thing is when you're big like that if you have
Starting point is 01:15:39 like the big brash personality whatever to match the bigness if you have the big brash voice it's almost less off-putting
Starting point is 01:15:48 because it matches you but he's you know just really you know kind of soft-spoken and you know just you know
Starting point is 01:15:54 just kind of a nice guy just kind of really soft-spoken and that's almost more intimidating because he's the soft-spoken quiet giant
Starting point is 01:16:02 it's like Tyson when you hear that voice come out of that body. Next question. Does the camera actually add 10 pounds? Because if it does, how do 10 pound weights exist? Wait a second, what? I thought someone was going to
Starting point is 01:16:19 call us fat, by the way. All cameras weigh 10 pounds. That's the answer? Jesus, you blew my mind with that one. I wish I had something better. I don't even get it. How does a camera add 10 pounds and also take a picture of a 10-pound weight,
Starting point is 01:16:34 would that weight not look 20 pounds? Take a picture of one tonight and see if it works. Yeah, see if it looks 20 pounds. If it just magically switches to a 20. Yeah, I don't know. That's too much for me right now. I've been up since 4.30. Last question.
Starting point is 01:16:50 What would Mark Madden have to say about class? By the way, Peter's totally Mark Madden'd you, by the way. Oh, I know. Come on my radio show. You can't come on my radio show I don't know who you are Show me your HockeyDB page Show me
Starting point is 01:17:08 Okay well no No you can't come on my show That 15 people listen to I wonder if Andrew Peters Has ever had somebody Who never played in the NHL On his show And if he has
Starting point is 01:17:17 I guess who's coming on next Patrick O'Sullivan On his show On my NHL Oh he's going on his show Uh huh Oh no way Yeah
Starting point is 01:17:25 I hope they talk about Alex Burrows Just saying That's funny I was talking to Patrick O'Sullivan The other day That's pretty interesting But Mark Madden Oh
Starting point is 01:17:34 I think You know what Flyers fans What they need to do is show some class They gotta show some class They gotta be a classier city I think he would go the complete other way And he would just say it normally Because there's something about
Starting point is 01:17:51 The word class In a headline Or in a tweet That just makes it seem that much more classy you can't just you can't scream class unless you're me you can't scream class and have it have the same effect you know makes sense that's fair i mean what you expect mark to yell so that's why that would make sense okay all right well with that gentlemen we're gonna wrap the show up unless there's something that i don't know because jesse just pointed
Starting point is 01:18:22 his computer at steve steve what are you reading steve's reading this man real patrick o'sullivan Wow, this tweet is just all over the place Don't read the radio station No free promo No, no, I'll give it to him No, no, no No, no Sit, sit Iggy
Starting point is 01:18:40 Go This man, real P.O. Sullivan His hockey story And more on the show tomorrow at 10am Strength, perseverance And courage So if you listen to this before 10am in the morning Tune into whatever station that is
Starting point is 01:18:58 You'll hear Strength Don't Perseverance And courage Do you ever promote your radio station like that? No Strength, perseverance, and courage
Starting point is 01:19:10 Because I know no one would read that and go I'm going to tune into that Give them a real tease, Peters Come on Thank you I think we could become friends I think you could too But until you're
Starting point is 01:19:20 I think we all could But until Wow What an optimistic way to look at life I think we could all be friends But unless and until he comes on the show and we find some middle ground, I'm not saying he has to apologize. I'm not saying you have to apologize.
Starting point is 01:19:32 What is the middle ground we're finding? I don't know. Right? We're not debating anything. I think if you could come out of the conversation friendlier than when you came into it, there's some middle ground there. Okay, fine. I thought we were going to debate like the Orlov-Belmar hit.
Starting point is 01:19:48 Because that's kind of what it was. I'm sorry. Do you want to talk about hockey with this person? I mean, I don't think you're qualified, quite frankly. Where's your hockey DB? DB pitch. It's on my blog It's exclusive to my blog
Starting point is 01:20:00 Here's what I want I want what the Steve Dangle hockey DB page would look like Oh no And you make up the stats So it can be whatever stats you want it to be But you gotta tell us in the legend What the stats mean How many years would Steve be stuck on the Arizona Coyotes
Starting point is 01:20:16 I'm thinking like 8 What's a blogger DB page look like Like would you have Leafs TV stats CBC stats Or is it video stats? So it's like number of times you've said class. Or is it number of times you've been upset about the Leafs losing?
Starting point is 01:20:36 I don't know what it is. Views by year. How many LFR years are you at now? Stop making it something legitimate, sir. It has to be illegitimate. Views by year. Views by year. Thanks, Buzz Killington.
Starting point is 01:20:49 We appreciate it. Free clothes per year. Free clothes per year. There you go! Steve was never able to replicate 2010 he was never able to replicate
Starting point is 01:20:58 that's a big year it was real good that year man I had a good I hope that was a contract year for you it was apparently
Starting point is 01:21:04 yeah I wasn't signed to a very long year I mean it's better with my employment per 60 employment per 60 needs to be something
Starting point is 01:21:17 there you go can we include the zoo years as well in that you know and how many elephant poop stories you told on that bus?
Starting point is 01:21:26 Oh, man. I told a lot of elephant poop stories. A lot of animal poop stories. Keep the masses entertained. Yeah. I still say in the summer we should do a zoo episode.
Starting point is 01:21:33 I think I actually were talking about that the other day. I thought here's what I was thinking for the for the podcast when we were off. So we were we go down
Starting point is 01:21:40 to one episode a week, Jess. Yes. So after the after the draft's done, we're down or free agency. We're down to one a week. I think it's after July 1st. And so what I think
Starting point is 01:21:50 we should do is take a couple of those weeks and do twice a week. One of them is zoo stories Just total zoo stories The next one is Wags Wives and girlfriends
Starting point is 01:22:01 So we do a Oh I just understood that Which I told you this before by the way Save some of this for the drive home So what I think is that we should have Do you guys have an hour worth of Wives and girlfriends stories? No no no we have them on
Starting point is 01:22:17 And we have them on separately So we have Mrs. Dangle on And then we have Caprice on Just me just telling an hour's worth of stories about her. That's not going to be a good thing. No, what we would do is just set it up. So you set it up where our listeners ask whatever questions they want to his wife, my girlfriend, and they got to answer.
Starting point is 01:22:38 And that's the thing, they got to answer. Even if the question is, who is your hottest first degree relative? Got to answer the question. Wasn't that one of Jesse's first shows? Yes, that was Jesse's first show. we record those two and instead of doing three best ofs
Starting point is 01:22:53 we do one best of and then those two we'll just play at a later date I don't know we got a few months to figure this out we'll figure it out
Starting point is 01:22:59 okay anyway I think I think Zoo Stories and Wives and Girlfriends I think that would be great because then you get a real insight into just what a pain in the ass
Starting point is 01:23:08 I am at home and how much I toot for real oh Mrs. Daniels just like you know alright let's do this I'm ready
Starting point is 01:23:17 I know Caprice will be hesitant for the first about five minutes and then once that wall comes down I'm never gonna recover like I'm screwed
Starting point is 01:23:26 but that's okay I mean it's not like I haven't said all the dumb things so we're gonna wrap it up we will see you next week we're all exhausted in the meantime
Starting point is 01:23:35 we'll see what happens with Mr. Peters probably follow the guys on Twitter at Steve underscore Dangle at Adam W Y L D E And at Jesse Blake. The Steve Dangle Podcast.
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